pokemon-winds-waves

[velvet forum]

atp megas are played out tbh

[forest egret]

You don't like nothin

[velvet forum]

I do like megas but doing it twice in a row seems unlikely especially when mega evolution is the entire premise of legends Z-A

[forest egret]

I don't think they'd make new ones

Or even have it be a plot element or anything like that

[velvet forum]

which is why i say it’s unlikely bc if they bring megas to gen 10 they will have to make new ones but we got like 30 new megas with ZA

[lyric stratus]

Megas were in Gen 7 and we got no new ones

[velvet forum]

Yeah but it wasnt prominent in gen 7

[forest egret]

I was kinda hoping it would just be the SM thing where they're in the dex but just not really in the game's story

[velvet forum]

That would be cool

or like at least talked about

I hope we get a new gimmick that isnt like a gmax situation or z move

i have no clue what they could do tho

id actually like to see PLA’s gimmick make a comeback

[forest egret]

I'm thinking they'll atleast get one mainline game where they're in the dex as transferrables, and then they'll probably disappear from the series after that just like before

[velvet forum]

with the agile and strong style moves

[velvet forum]

Well

champions is a thing

i think it’ll stop at champions then we get gen 10 and maybe megas return in a remake or something

[forest egret]

I'm aware, that's not really a mainline thing though that's just their official comp game

[velvet forum]

anything that is officially pokemon is mainline

[forest egret]

That's not true, spinoffs are still official but don't count as "mainline"

[velvet forum]

to be completely honest i wish they did unova instead of kalos for a legends game

the next id like to see is unova or alola tho

[forest egret]

Unova would presumably be a "past" legends game

I wonder if they'd do the past of Alola too, or the future like ZA

[lyric stratus]

What if its a pattern, past, future, past, future etc

[chilly olive]

I would like them to be new megas or even just bringing it back but they probably won’t and add some bum mechanics like giving ur pokemon a new broken ability or sm

[forest egret]

Eh. I wouldn't want Megas to be this game's central thing

I wanna know if they'll keep making those Convergent forms of pokemon or not

I hope they do, I think they're a neat idea alongside the usual regionals and think they could be a cool mainstay, but I would hope they do a little more with them if they make more

[fickle birch]

Based on the fact that there's seemingly a marine research facility, I'm hoping we see convergents that are aquatic version of non-aquatic Pokémon, and vice versa. 🙂

[robust wren]

I hope we get an actual proper villain group this time around cause anything in the more recent games that could be considered an antagonistic force has been feeling more and more sanded down

[velvet forum]

Im guessing a future most likely

[forest egret]

If they wanna explore more UB shit I would imagine

[velvet forum]

Thats the only thing they could really do

[forest egret]

iirc UBs are a more recent phenomena in Alola so they'd kinda have to

[velvet forum]

Theres really nothing you could do with the tapus

unless alola went like the paradox route and had like

future and past tapus/ ubs

out of all the games area zero is probably the most mysterious one yet

[lyric stratus]

How about a Aquatic Krookodile thats a false Gharial

[velvet forum]

Fire electric toxel

[kindred orbit]

Browt

https://tenor.com/view/hallow-ice-browt-pokemon-pokemon-winds-and-waves-chick-gif-4602644142592558460

[robust wren]

Past Paradox Tapus that are the actual animals that their "totem" forms allude to would be awesome

[velvet forum]

no

https://tenor.com/view/slomnir-pokemon-gen-x-gecqua-gecko-gif-15278327733892955014

[kindred orbit]

Yes

[finite totem]

no

https://tenor.com/view/pombon-pokemon-pokemon-winds-and-waves-starter-pokemon-pokémon-gif-11114532844050334286

Tbf I could take any fire type but this is extra cute

[fresh radish]

we know the gimmick is not mega evolution so i doubt they will even have it in the game

[velvet forum]

yes

https://tenor.com/view/slomnir-pokemon-gen-x-gecqua-gecko-gif-15278327733892955014

[finite totem]

I mean SM kept Mega Evolutions

and no we do not know the gimmick yet

[velvet forum]

actually we do

[fresh radish]

not really

[velvet forum]

not the exact explanation but it isnt megas

[fresh radish]

i dont know anything about sun and moon either so yeah

[velvet forum]

z moves

[fresh radish]

oh thats right

[velvet forum]

space cat and bat

and a couple megas

[finite totem]

anyways chat speak no devil 🤫

[fresh radish]

devil

[mental patio]

Top 5 starters imo

Top 3 even

[forest egret]

https://x.com/LazyVraptor/status/2027406222404792382?s=20

LazyVRaptor (@LazyVraptor)

I LOVE GECQUA
THEIR HUGE EYES FILL ME WITH ALL THE JOY

#Gecqua #pokemon #PokemonWindsWaves

X · Feb 27, 2026, 3:31 PM

[royal dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-winds-and-waves-starter-pokemon-browt-browt-meme-gif-18265727514369899424

[jagged cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/browt-pokémon-winds-and-waves-pokémon-day-angry-bird-gif-14660576355177336106

[velvet forum]

https://tenor.com/view/slomnir-pokemon-gen-x-gecqua-gecko-gif-15278327733892955014

[royal dagger]

Tbh I love all 3 of these starters

If I didnt always pick the grass starter on my 1st playthrough I might be debating my choices

[latent ether]

Why does the water type look like those squeezy pencils

[dark merlin]

[fickle birch]

"You have 30 minutes to move your Browt."
"You have 10 minutes."
"Your Browt has been captured."
"Your Browt has been crushed into a cube."
"You have 30 minutes to move your cube." 🙂

[eager flower]

"Is it about my cube?"

[mental patio]

My glorious queen

[mental patio]

W reference

[prisma hinge]

Glory to the browt god

[noble ice]

With generation 9 introducing two new type combinations to us (that being bug/dark and Fire/Grass), there are still nine different type combinations they have never used: Normal/Ice, Normal/Bug, Normal/Rock, Normal/Steel, Fire/Fairy, Ice/Poison, Ground/Fairy, Bug/Dragon, and Rock/Ghost, so what are some type combinations that you guys hope to see in generation 10?

I’m gonna throw it out there we technically don’t have a Fairy/Dragon. Yes Mega Altaria is a Fairy/Dragon, but since some games don’t have mega evolution in them. It technically doesn’t exist.

[normal zodiac]

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't they also introduce a ground fighting type or was that already done

[robust wren]

Great Tusk

[normal zodiac]

Yeah I was thinking on wether or not it was a new type combo

[noble ice]

And I think they also introduced iron valiant to be the very first fighting/fairy

[normal zodiac]

Just double checked and yup

I'm really hoping these type combos get brought to other pokemon

[noble ice]

It’s surprising to me that we don’t have a single Rock/Ghost type yet

[normal zodiac]

Honestly that sounds like either a regional spiritomb or a regional honedge

[robust wren]

I would like another Fire/Ice type. G.Darmanitan felt like a really disappointing payoff to waiting so long for that combo.

[wise flint]

i wonder what our pikachu clone will be like. the pawmi line kinda disappointed me

[robust wren]

I would be down for skipping over that trend, honestly.

[normal zodiac]

Now another good regional bird however that would be nice

[unborn cave]

fire fairy would make an awesome pokemon

[olive panther]

I'd like to see some of the legend/mythical only combos brought to other mons. Like water/fire could be really neat since we're potentially dealing with a lot of aquatic area.

[finite totem]

Rock/Ghost, Bug/Dragon and Normal/Rock sounds easy

[jagged cedar]

Runerigus looks like it should be rock/ghost

But it's ground for some reason

[velvet forum]

ehh to be fair it looks more like a ground type than rock

[lyric stratus]

Why

[royal dagger]

I just want a non dragon pseudo legend

Or at the very least if it is dragon then make it Bug Dragon

[forest egret]

A non dragon pseudo would be neat this time around, yeah. Tyranitar and Metagross are the only ones, and Tyranitar's still a big lizard

[lyric stratus]

Maybe a aquatic pseudo?

But I expect it to be dragon sadly

My hope is that it also doesnt overlap a starter type

[acoustic igloo]

I personally always wanted a Fairy pseudo

[robust wren]

Boring uninspired designs from day one

"What if X rodent, but Pikachu?" 🥱

The two most "interesting" things done with the formula were one that spends half the time angry and another one that evolves with barely noticeable changes

It's thoroughly tread ground that's never given us anything interesting

[lyric stratus]

Thats a bs statement

[robust wren]

The only Pikaclones I regularly remember are Pachirisu cause people never shut up about that time it won Worlds and Emolga cause it annoyed the hell out of me every time a trainer used it in Unova

[lyric stratus]

Let me guess you hate crocodiles cuz they are similiar
Or big cats cuz they are so similiar

[robust wren]

All the crocodile Pokémon take their designs in interesting directions. Pikaclones are a homogeneous blob of nothing.

[lyric stratus]

I talked about irl animals

[lyric stratus]

Thats just a bs answer imo
Obv a animal species with common ancestor has similarities

[finite totem]

A rodent and a pikaclone is separate tho

Don't tell me these are in same board as electric rodents which had even same exact smile

[robust wren]

How many fans do you think Krookodile and Skeledirge would have if instead of being Ground/Dark and Fire/Ghost respectively, they were both Water types? And instead of their Gangster and Day of the Dead theming, they had none of that and were just crocodiles?

[rain silo]

Idk I like pikaclones, especially dedenne

It’s based off of the tooth fairy as well as electric rodent

[robust wren]

Pawmot is the closest Pikaclone to having an interesting concept with its vague defibrillator theme, but it's very vague to the point where I would not be surprised if almost nobody noticed it

[finite totem]

Speaking of pawmot😭

This reminded me pawmot more than Pikachu

[forest egret]

It's still funny that they just stole Palworld dev's name and the game itself is almost just called "Pokemon"

Anyways, I don't mind the Pikaclone trend, I just want them to be a little more interesting

[lyric stratus]

Exactly
Pikaclones are more in line with Dog breeds than Canines
Thats what I mean

[lyric stratus]

Dont talk crap like that the Pikaclones all have theyr own concept and existence too
Its one thing to dislike a mon but the other to talk stuff thats just not true

[robust wren]

Pachirisu is what if a squirrel was Pikachu
Emolga is what if a flying squirrel was Pikachu
Dedenne is what if a gerbil was Pikachu
Togedemaru is what if a hedgehog was Pikachu
Morpeko is what if a hamster was Pikachu and also got angry
Pawmi is what if a marmot was Pikachu but at least it has an evo line

[lyric stratus]

Oh if we play like that
Naganadel is what if Beedrill was a ugly aah alien

You can do that with every poke man

[robust wren]

At this point you're just throwing petty whataboutisms around

[lyric stratus]

Cuz you saying Pikachu as squirrel is exactly that stupid

Just say you didnt care enough to inform yourself what pikaclones are

[robust wren]

If I can analyze Pawmot's design enough to recognize the vague defibrillator theme, I think I can say I have some capability to analyze designs. Just because you are so angry at me for having a different opinion to yours doesn't magically make my perspective meaningless.

[forest egret]

I think most of the Pikaclones don't really do anything beyond being cute and looking like Pikachu's cousins. I like that we have a family of related pokemon like them but I would like to see them get a little more varied. Evos I think would help, they should do more of those

Even though I don't love Pawmot I think it's still a step in the right direction

[robust wren]

If Pawmot capitalized more on the defibrillator thing- by giving it some different facial markings alluding to a surgeon's mask, just as a potential example- I would probably like it way more. There's something there that's not being capitalized on

[forest egret]

I think I'd like Pawmot more if Pawmo didn't exist

The transition that line undergoes is kinda too fine lol

[lyric stratus]

Im not angry at you, I only get annoyed by your statements that are actually crap and you dont even want to learn more

Also how did you only know Pawmots idea
Like Plusle and Minun are obv cheerleaders and Emolga for example is a lil Hero

[robust wren]

Emolga is a hero just for having the same petagium as any flying squirrel? Sounds like a stretch

It doesn't look anything like a cape

[forest egret]

The emolga one is a little tenuous to me. His membrane looks a little bit like a cape, but it's not a particularly heroic one, it just feels like the natural way to depict a flying squirrel's membrane within the pokemon style

Emolga itself doesn't particularly look heroic otherwise, or even act like a hero

[robust wren]

Also Plusle and Minun are only really noticeable as cheerleaders when they're animated. The theme doesn't make itself apparent at all in the design

[forest egret]

I wish Minun was sad or smth

[robust wren]

They could at least have electric or furry pompoms. Pompom Oricorio portrayed the cheerleader theme so much better by actually communicating it in the design

If Plusle and Minun are supposed to be cheerleaders and Emolga is supposed to be a superhero that just leaves me feeling even more disappointed with them cause their themes aren't communicated well in their designs at all

Good concept ≠ good execution

[forest egret]

Is pachirisu supposed to be anything other than an electric squirrel

I saw him mentioned before

His hair stands up I guess, that's not really a strong concept though that's kind of the bare minimum

[robust wren]

I'll go even further and say just because a design has an ok concept and successfully communicates it doesn't mean it looks good. Mega Pyroar's mane being the kanji for flame is noticeable, but it looks like it went to the barber and asked for the Swordward

[forest egret]

As someone who prefers how female Pyroar's hair looks, the mega was a little upsetting

because tbh I don't even like the normal male pyroar mane lol

[lyric stratus]

I just wait for you guys to act like Anorith or so has a bigger theme

[forest egret]

Why

"Hah he's just an anomalacaris" yeah we know

[robust wren]

It's a seldom represented species and has cool factor in being based on one of the earliest known apex predators

[forest egret]

He has funny eyeballs

If there was another pokemon who looked similar to anorith and introduced a bare, almost negligible design gimmick to him, then perhaps I would have similar thoughts on this hypothetical Anorithclone that I do for the current Pikaclones

I don't even hate the Pikaclones I just think they could do more with them

[lyric stratus]

Oh yeah they def can do more with them
Idk if you saw it but the discussion came to life cuz timmy said that we hopefully dont get a new one

[forest egret]

I don't agree with him on that, but I don't really blame people who think that way either

[lyric stratus]

Partly agree

When the problem is you dont fully understand the designe and say "its just a rat" or "its just a rat but pikachu" it gets annoying
Wasnt one part of the fun with Pokemon to understand the designes and learn

[forest egret]

Some of the pikaclones are kinda just variations on Pikachu with not much going for them outside of their species, I don't think that's incorrect to say

[lyric stratus]

Like if it wasnt for Pokemon I wouldnt have known that more animals have quils than a Hedgehog and Porcupine as example
Or all kinds of culture stuff

[forest egret]

I think Pachirisu really is just Pikachu as a Squirrel

[lyric stratus]

I mean it does have more behind it
Thats the thing with every pokemon

[vapid bolt]

Can y play pokémon infinity fusion please ?

[forest egret]

What would that be

[lyric stratus]

It always depends on the will to learn if you understand and research or not

[lyric stratus]

You have to download it in #downloads

[vapid bolt]

Take you

[forest egret]

Well, I would like to know what Pachirisu's deal is

I did ask in earnest

[vapid bolt]

Je sais pas comment faire

[forest egret]

You might find an easier time talking to people in #français

I take it english isn't your first language

[vapid bolt]

I'm french i'm not english

Take you

[lyric stratus]

I mean obv its a squirrel but the neat part is (also why its white) that Hokaido has unique super cute white squirrels
Its also referencing hair standing up cuz of electricity (thats the spikes on the tail)

But since im at work and shouldnt be too much on the phone gnoggin made a good video about it i think!
(Had to stop explaining cuz ym boss gets mad)

[forest egret]

It being a squirrel from hokkaido is still just the species thing

And again, static fur to communicate the electrical typing is the bare minimum

[vapid bolt]

Te french mean can't discut

[lyric stratus]

Just watch this dont have time to discuss
https://youtu.be/gz-09ukb1FE?is=mYzWCC-ZffC9PBO_

Hope its the right vid

[jade ocean]

Anorinth being based on an apex predator is so funny to me

Where did that n come from

Anyways

[vapid bolt]

Je comprends pas

[jade ocean]

It's funny to me because it puts the image of Anorith being an apex predator into my head

Which is funny because bro is not fully evolved

[forest egret]

He even says in this video that "Pachirisu is a pikachu squirrel" at the end of the segment. I'm really sorry to say but you kinda just shot yourself in the foot

[vapid bolt]

Take you

[forest egret]

You're welcome

[vapid bolt]

Welow in french is bonjour

Or salut

[forest egret]

Like he explains what squirrel it is and all. Cool. That's not really helping your case I'm afraid, though. You kinda just shared something that's more in-line with what I was saying about Pachirisu

[lyric stratus]

Then I got the wrong vid

Damn it im at work my mind is everywhere atm

I know there was someone who talked about Pachis connection to fashion, standing up hair, blue lightning etc

I even said im unsure if its the right vid

[finite totem]

Anyways do we expect the main trio to be
Water-Flying-Ground, Water-Flying-Grass or Dragon-Dragon-Fairy

[lyric stratus]

Main trio?

[finite totem]

Legendary Pokemon. Doubt there would be mono or duo

Or 4

[jade ocean]

Why so?

We got a Duo in Gen 9 after all

As well as Gen 2

Sure, trios are the most common for these legendaries with 670+ BST, but these prove that duos can exist

If you mean just regular-ass legendaries then uhh

Hmm

I'm not too sure

Maybe it'll be a case like Sword and Shield where there's not really any other legendaries apart from the Box Arts + 3rd Legendary

Or alternatively maybe they'll just throw 60 different new legendaries at us

[velvet forum]

regis, galarian birds, the horses and the onion rabbit:

eternatus as well

[jade ocean]

Those aren't base game

And Eternatus is the 3rd Legendary

[velvet forum]

actually i think eternatus is a mythical

[jade ocean]

Wind and Waves won't release with a DLC I imagine

[jade ocean]

This is incorrect

[finite totem]

This has been 3rd game with dlcs

So get used to those or even non-dlc updates

[jade ocean]

I said release

[velvet forum]

We are definitely getting dlcs with wiwa

[jade ocean]

I'm expecting a DLC

I'm not expecting it to be released at the same time as the base game

[amber monolith]

i don't think EA owns wind and waves

[jade ocean]

Sword and Shield have 1 Mythical, and it's Zarude

[finite totem]

They owned SwSh, SV and PLZA i suppose

[amber monolith]

because talking about DLC, lel

[finite totem]

Honestly paired games being full price is a mad scam anyway

[jade ocean]

I think the record for most fully evolved legendaries released at once is 9

Shared by BW and DP

[lyric stratus]

Love how people complain about dlcs but would love third versions of a game

[amber monolith]

i might have grown out of pokemon, i have no clue what i'm saying

[jade ocean]

Y'know I've always questioned why people inherently hate the idea of DLCs

[lyric stratus]

Since switch pkmn uses dlcs and not Third versions of the game

[jade ocean]

But now I'm questioning it even more

That is very strange

[amber monolith]

might be because a third version of a game would have more content

sort of?

[lyric stratus]

Only thing I dislike is that I dont have them physical so yeah maybe that

[jade ocean]

But most of it would be the same as the first 2 versions would it not?

[amber monolith]

they don't just want DLC for a game they already own, they want an entirely new game

[jade ocean]

Albeit with improvements in some areas

[lyric stratus]

Not really imo
Like most third versions arent THAT diffrent

Maybe cuz extra versions give changes to places we already visited

[amber monolith]

abandoned PLA before finishing the main story, then bought Sword, and i haven't bought a new pokekmon game since then

haven't even turned on my switch in a while either

[finite totem]

I don't like DLCs when overall product becomes expensive

ZA with dlcs cost what, 100$?

[velvet forum]

bc they end up being 70$

[lyric stratus]

I mean noone forces you to buy extra content
Also isnt a third game more expensiv

[velvet forum]

140$

the dlc cost as much as the game

[jade ocean]

Unless you anticipate a 3rd game, you'd end up paying for 2 games there as well

[finite totem]

You do not need to have DP for Platinum tho

[jade ocean]

I guess if you look at it as a retrospectove it isn't that bad

[velvet forum]

next game we are getting after wiwa is legends unova im calling it

[lyric stratus]

Za dlc is 30

[jade ocean]

But look at it this way

Imagine you're a kid and the new Pokemon games release

[finite totem]

Also remind you not pokemon but there are stuff like Sims 4 or ETS2 with like 300$+ in dlsc

[jade ocean]

And they're lowkey riddled with many issues

[velvet forum]

not 30$

[jade ocean]

And then a new game released

That is your game

[lyric stratus]

Google says 30

[jade ocean]

But with most of its issues removed

[lyric stratus]

Za is 70

[velvet forum]

when it first dropped it was like 50

no way

[jade ocean]

What do you do then?

[lyric stratus]

So together its 100

[lyric stratus]

Where the hell did you buy it

[jade ocean]

If you buy it again then it's basically just the DLC stuff

[finite totem]

Lance are you Canadian or Aussie?

[velvet forum]

American

[velvet forum]

nintendo shop

on the switch

[opal gull]

dk why you think it was 50 but it was 60 switch ver 70 switch 2 ver

[robust wren]

Legendary duos seem to be how Pokémon is proceeding nowadays, considering Zacian/Zamazenta and Koraidon/Miraidon. There's a decently compelling argument to include Terapagos in with the Raidons as their trio master considering it's responsible for their existence, but you would need to make quite the case for Eternatus being in a trio with Zacian and Zamazenta

[finite totem]

I would say Eternatus is easier case than Terapagos

Zacian and Zamazenta bonk Eternatus when it awakens

So there is a relation, kinda similar to Zygarde and Rayquaza on their trios but duo is 'good' side

Terapagos-Paradox relation is more like Yvertal and Mega Charizard X
Since Terapagos cause them but not intentionally making Paradox pokemon

[velvet forum]

the dlc not the game

maybe it was the preorder that was 50

i did preorder it after all

[normal zodiac]

No mine was 30 and I bought it day of

[velvet forum]

yall are gaslighting me

[normal zodiac]

I'm not

Mine was 30$

[opal gull]

the dlc is 30 not 50

where the heck didja get idea a dlc cost us $50

thats insane

[normal zodiac]

I mean it's not above Nintendo to do

[velvet forum]

it was more than 30$ before

100%

[normal zodiac]

With tax maybe but that's it

[finite totem]

I searched steam and nearly all dlcs over 30 dollars are "donation packs" or in-game currency/other p2w stuff

[velvet forum]

nah u guys were right wtf

Im just trippin

i had went thru my email to check my nintendo digital reciepts

🐥💀

[finite totem]

Even the biggest DLCs I can find (Like Phantom Liberty, Shadow of Eldtree) is equal to or below 30 dollars

[opal gull]

yeah it is would be a 20 dollar jump they ain't gonna do that with software outta nowhere

[robust wren]

Rayquaza is the sky to Groudon's land and Kyogre's sea. That is what makes it such a distinctive member of the trio. Eternatus has no clear connections to Zacian and Zamazenta

[jagged cedar]

I mean there's kinda a connection through the whole darkest day stuff but like
For such an important plot point it's really not explained well

[lime void]

Is any of SWSH’s plot really explained well

[jagged cedar]

It's definitely a fun game but

Not one you play for plot

[robust wren]

It has a better plot than RBY and GSC, and that's all I'll give it

[amber monolith]

and it's fun

[acoustic igloo]

RBY had a plot?

[finite totem]

Yeah it was about a boy called Red who has reality altering abilities but can't control them

His companions were Pikachu, Mew and missingno.

[amber monolith]

game leaks?

idk why they changed the graphics so much

[indigo mango]

perfomance issues

[amber monolith]

also i think that's someone's finger in the browt picture

unless it's a new leak

[robust wren]

DLSS 5 moment

[calm dock]

Its leak, theyre developing the game in a new engine called spo.re

[forest egret]

This might be real

[robust wren]

Not sure what emotion Spore Gecqua evokes in me, but it sure does

[forest egret]

Mewgenics cats after a bad event roll

[robust wren]

You know what would be great to see in a game named after wind?

Some more actually good Flying moves

[trail rover]

This looks something out of spore

[amber monolith]

no, that’s the new game

[dense sandal]

Looks like spore

Wait that is spore

https://tenor.com/view/spore-creature-spikey-dance-dancing-gif-5902215595831171069

Has to be just fan made

[trail rover]

That's what I said

Makes me want to get the game used to have the ea pass and it is still technically on my pc

[finite totem]

No way dlss5

[finite totem]

?tag rule9

[rotund edge]

Make sure to follow the #rules!

Rule 9:
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[finite totem]

Wait is chat taking serious or 🫪

Joke flew over my head

[finite totem]

Anyways chat avoid actual leaks

[forest egret]

Garfield are you /srs or /j

[peak night]

||browt||

[velvet forum]

no

https://tenor.com/view/slomnir-pokemon-gen-x-gecqua-gecko-gif-15278327733892955014

[peak night]

:(

[velvet forum]

Perhaps birb

[olive panther]

Whichever one is for you. I am also of house gequa, but browt and pombon are good too.

I will have them all regardless.

[high spoke]

I kinda want this game to do smth super unrealistic and funny and give a pokemon a 4th stage evolution. Not like a mega evolution like another true evolution. Never gonna happen but it’d be so funny

[hollow arrow]

does this mean that when I miscalc in competitive I can say "Musta been the wind"

[jagged cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-winds-and-waves-pokemon-winds-and-waves-meme-browt-browt-meme-gif-16026518211019845512

[gilded mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/browt-pokémon-winds-and-waves-pokémon-day-angry-bird-gif-14660576355177336106

[finite totem]

Anyways chat expectations on what is rival picking

1. Strong matchup
2. Weak matchup
3. Multi rival
4. No starter on rival team

[lime void]

Either weak matchup or multi rival

The only game where no rivals used a starter was Legends Arceus, so there’s definitely going to be at least one rival how uses a starter

(And IMO, there should always be a rival for every starter you don’t pick)

[robust wren]

Multi rival is the one that makes the most sense from a gameplay perspective if they really want 5 year olds to grasp the type chart, which is why it's annoyed me to this day that they've only done that twice

[finite totem]

Sinnoh, Unova, Kalos (lowk didn't play Alola games so idk those) makes 3

Although not rival you match the one that kept unchosen starter in SwSh and SV as well

[lime void]

The only rival in Sinnoh is Barry

[finite totem]

I am sure Lucas counts too

[lime void]

You don’t fight him or Dawn

[finite totem]

[finite totem]

Oh also Taubain keeping both for debtselves

[lime void]

Get it? Debtselves. Cause they got Team MZ in crippling debt

[robust wren]

I love how they'll never live that down. Not like they did many notable things besides that. There's what, poaching responsibility over Mega Floette from the MC despite them being the most powerful Mega Evolution user and proceeding to fuck it up? Getting a high position at Quazartico out of nepotism?

[lime void]

They don’t poach your responsibility if you lose

[unborn cave]

https://tenor.com/emmLcGxqRw0.gif

[little nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-winds-and-waves-pombon-planet-pombon-gif-5223348455190457816

[velvet forum]

https://tenor.com/view/slomnir-pokemon-gen-x-gecqua-gecko-gif-15278327733892955014

[jagged cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/hallow-ice-browt-pokemon-pokemon-winds-and-waves-chick-gif-4602644142592558460

[normal zodiac]

Gentlemen we might be getting a new regi

[lime void]

What are you basing this off of?

[amber monolith]

we haven't had a new regi since SwSh

[lime void]

And we haven’t had a new lake guardian since DP. What’s your point?

[velvet forum]

which wasnt long ago at all

[acoustic igloo]

New Lake Guardian confirmed

[amber monolith]

might be due for a new one, idk

[lime void]

We’re really not

[amber monolith]

i wanna say something goofy, but i think i'm not sure how to phrase it

but like, if there's the argument of "we got new regis not long ago, so i don't think we're getting new ones"

didn't we just get a pokemon game last year?

[lime void]

And we’re not getting another (main series) game this year

But in all seriousness, new games are totally different from giving one Pokémon (or group of Pokémon in this case) special treatment

[robust wren]

The only argument I could see for new Regis is that Mega Zygarde proved they're no longer afraid of Pokémon with a stat of 200 in their offenses

[cunning sierra]

I remember speculating a Ghost type Regi for Z-A thinking it would be early Lumiose City and this Regi in question would basically be a Frankenstein's monster of different Pokemon body parts minus the body and head.

each Regi represents an age of human history (idk about Regieleki and Regidrago) so the idea was the era of time where scientists and other people were obsessed with reanimation of dead bodies

[amber monolith]

Regieleki is modern age, Redidrago is middle ages

idk how accurate bulbapedia is, considering it's not a good idea to get info from wikipedia pages :V

[robust wren]

The origin section is largely speculative. Few Pokémon have had their explicit inspirations talked about, it's mostly just fans coming to certain conclusions

The "different ages through history" thing does make more sense than some fan speculations on origins, at least

Looking at you, "legendary """""dogs."""""

Going by the ages theme, I could see a Fighting type Regi with 200 attack based on a gladiator and thus the bronze age.

Not sure what I would do about the 200 Special Attack equivalent

[sinful vale]

A Psychic one, that nonetheless is named Iron Regi, that represents the future. That also gives them a backdoor to make some excuse to put Paradox Mons in a region and time other than Paldea.

^This will not happen.

[unborn cave]

i honestly dont even know if browt or pombon is better i love them both

gecqua sucks

ugly

[little nacelle]

Gecquas fingers weird me out a bit

[jagged cedar]

Browt should have wonder guard

[finite totem]

Is legendary dogs Zac- duo or Johto trio?

Honestly Gecqua could be a bug (or poison as nearly everyone expected)

It's tail looks like a stinger instead

[velvet forum]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-winds-and-waves-gen-10-starters-gecqua-gif-1590094039370155758

[forest egret]

It's tail is kinda just how a lot of gecko species have them

[velvet forum]

big tail

[forest egret]

idk if we'd ever get a bug type starter tbh

[finite totem]

I mean Bug kinda breaks the whole point of starters resisting each other (super effective to grass, weak to fire)

[forest egret]

Bug is such an odd typing because it's so inherent to whatever the pokemon is usually

Like, how would a pokemon who's not a bug, evolve into a bug? I'm sure it's possible of course, but that sounds really hard to pull off without it feeling strange

Other typings don't usually face this issue because of how elemental they are

It would be cool to get a bug starter, I would like to see one. But I think if we were to ever get one (which isn't too likely imo), it would have to be bug from the start

But then that kinda messes with the type triangle slightly no matter what starter you put it on, which just adds another complication

[finite totem]

Tried to balance it with more secondary types but Water and Grass has too much overlap

[fickle birch]

Fire/Bug would be the only one that'd work without impacting the triangle. If they wanted a Pokémon to evolve into a Bug-type (which I don't think has ever happened thus far, same with Normal), maybe it could be like a foraging bear that evolves to have a coat of lava-like honey, and then becomes a bee/bear hybrid? 😅

[velvet forum]

id like to see another ghost bug type

[forest egret]

It makes grass do neutral damage

[forest egret]

Same

Shedinja's cool but he is a weird gimmick pokemon, it'd be cool to see the typing on something else that doesn't have 1hp

[velvet forum]

give us a regional bug ghost acellgor

[forest egret]

Where he's like a mummy

[fickle birch]

Fire/Bug? No, it'd be .25x effective. 😅

[forest egret]

Oh yeah whoops

That does kinda sound like an extra middle finger to the grass dude, but I suppose less-so than giving it to water

[fickle birch]

Just make the Grass one Steel or something if Water gets it.

[forest egret]

If they made a fire/bug starter I'd hope he's a Scorpion

[fickle birch]

A scorpion would be really cool. We need more scorpion Pokémon. 🙂

[forest egret]

We only got Drapion as our Scorpion but he's like a weird xylophone monster and not even bug anymore anyway

But a bug psuedo who's a giant scorpion would be pretty peak

[fickle birch]

Any pseudo that isn't a Dragon-type would be welcome at this point. 😂

Only half of the first 4 pseudos were Dragon-types, now all but two are. 😢

[forest egret]

And Metagross is the only one who's not really a big reptile dude

[fickle birch]

Which is why he's the best. 😉

https://tenor.com/view/pokemons-megaevolution-mega-pokemon-megametagross-gif-18658585

[forest egret]

Even a mammal I'd take at this point

[fickle birch]

They could do a bunch of ancient animals, I reckon. Or even dinosaurs that they don't tack the Dragon typing onto. 😄

[tepid flame]

Imagine

Pseudo legendary fossils

That'd go so hard I tell you

Dig up some new fossils of Gen 10 or whatever and then they say "yo these fossils are really hard to crack maybe come back later" then you do and now you just have a lvl 30 rock dual type pseudo legendary that evolves immediately and then again at level 50

Well two rock dual type pseudos

Then again it kinda makes it less unique since Tyranitar is a thing

[forest egret]

Idk if I need a psuedo legend fossil in the same vein as the other psuedos, but a 600 bst lategame fossil would be cool

Archuladon's all on his own rn as the only one in the 600 club that doesn't fit the usual mold, so hey, why not bring a couple more dudes into that

[fickle birch]

Archeops has a high BST for a fossil, but it's obviously also got a dreadful ability. 😢

I was just looking into Indonesian fossils to see what we might end up with, and I'd completely forgotten that Java was an Indonesian island. Browt is 100% ending up as a coffee bean. 😅

[forest egret]

Browt tweaking on coffee

[finite totem]

Tbh it is fragile so you could just say it has no ability

[velvet forum]

hes literally called the bean chick pokemon

The three Pokémon you can partner up with are Browt, the Bean Chick Pokémon; Pombon, the Puppy Pokémon; and Gecqua, the Water Gecko Pokémon. Choose one to be your partner, and set out on a new adventure together!

hold the phone

browt is gonna be grass electric

100%

[tepid flame]

Basing one off of recently extinct animals would be great

We've got a lot of that over here lmao

[fickle birch]

I know, that's why my initial theory was that he'd become something to do with coffee. 😂

[velvet forum]

grass electric!

[tepid flame]

My supa hot(?) prediction/wish is that the starters end form would be

Grass/Electric, Fire/Fairy, either Water/Bug or Water/Poison

[velvet forum]

Water bug is definitely not gonna happen

Water psychic or water poison 100%

[fickle birch]

Yeah I think Gecqua is absolutely gonna be a Poison-type. 😅

Pombon could go in any direction, but I also think Fairy. 🙂

I'd never thought of Electric for Browt because I was going with the more boring Flying, but if it goes down the coffee route, that'd be a cool typing to give it. 😄

[velvet forum]

especially bc its said to be energetic and the bean thing? its gotta be coffee

[polar barn]

browt evolutions leaked

[velvet forum]

and with coffee its either ground or electric

[velvet forum]

bro think hes asta

[cunning sierra]

My early predictions were Grass/Poison, Fire/Ground and Water/Psychic just from reading each bit about them and although my design for Browt doesn't fully work with the energetic part of the entry, I made it work in a theming for the starters

[finite totem]

Well I doubt Browt will fly but take a land bird approach (Could be like Espharta or like Decudieye/Blaziken)

[amber monolith]

cassowary?

[finite totem]

That or a chicken

Well Pokemon try to keep evolutions similar but not always based of exact species (monkeys become other primates etc)

[forest egret]

I think Decidueye can fly, though he doesn't learn the move

[amber monolith]

we need browt to turn into a giant monster dinosaur bird, maybe a cassowary

and then pombon ends up being a new pawmot, just becoming fluffier as it evolves

[cunning sierra]

I was thinking a peacock honestly, a proper one

Originally I had it as the plumage being a poisonous flower but considering its a "bean chick," maybe it could be multiple bean stalks?

[velvet forum]

Its definitely not going to be a poison type

it would make no sense for them to repeat a type combo they’ve done if we are supposedly gonna get fire fairy

[cunning sierra]

The only Grass/Poison starter is Bulbasaur, and without reading dirtsheets, Poison beats Fairy for a proper part of a "type triangle"

As for Gecqua, it could be Water/Dragon but I ain't one for looking at leaks and whatnot. I just like speculating

[forest egret]

To my knowledge, none of the typings have been leaked anyway

[fickle birch]

It would be funny if we get our fifth bird starter (sixth counting Hisuian Decidueye) and not a single one is a Flying-type in its final form. 😂

Fighting, Steel, Flying (and Fighting), and Fighting again. 😅

[lime void]

TBF, 2 of those are based on flightless birds

[robust wren]

Quaquaval also has partial peacock inspiration, and those aren't the best at flying

[late bane]

and decidueye is dead so :/

[amber monolith]

but we already know pombon is fire, gecqua is water and browt is grass

https://tenor.com/view/canal-hipocritas-medo-medroso-com-medo-nao-me-machuce-gif-3238008380609733347

[velvet forum]

Nah pombon is goofy type

[strange remnant]

Pombon is bork type

[velvet forum]

dork*

[unborn cave]

damn i thought browt was dark type

[amber monolith]

i might have incorrect sources

[velvet forum]

gecqua on top

[obtuse fulcrum]

Gecqua final evo is gonna gain poison type

[lime void]

That’s what I thought about Sobble, and look how that turned out

[velvet forum]

Its either poison or psychic

[lime void]

Hey look, it’s the other type I thought Inteleon was going to be when I saw it’s name. But nope, let’s make it the 4th pure water starter instead, because it’s not like we don’t have way more then enough of those even excluding starters

[velvet forum]

nah

[slow valve]

I want pombon to have a paintbrush theme

Its swirl on its head literally has a paint pattern

Fire/Fairy face painter

[unborn cave]

gecqua on bottom

[unborn cave]

that would be peak

[mystic fern]

Pombom is gonna stand up on two legs, you know it

And get ripped

Fire fighting

[jagged cedar]

I stand by my opinion that pombon should be a fire/dark with intimidate and access to fake out and parting shot

It would be such a unique idea for a starter!

[ruby frost]

They should make it for normal switch

I don't wanna drop 600 dollars to play a game

Then drop another 60 for the game itself

[jagged cedar]

They should, but they probably won't

[robust wren]

At the end of the day they're not gonna support the Switch forever

[royal dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/wolfeyvgc-pokémon-incineroar-intimidate-inner-focus-gif-13185874601041277971

[brazen jetty]

nah instead give it this stat spread

[lime void]

And why can’t it do all of those things with that stat spread?

[brazen jetty]

(It's Charizard's stat spread, the joke is that Typhlosion has the exact same stats so it would be funny if they did that again)

[jade ocean]

It would be funny...

[lyric stratus]

Just wait for Pombons final having Oblivious as ability

Hidden ability*

[robust wren]

Pombon having Oblivious would track with how head empty it looks

[jade flare]

As long as it doesn't become an incineroar clone or hop on 2 legs im sure well be grand

[amber monolith]

imagine the reveal trailers have pombon's final form walking on two legs

but that's just a hunting choice or whatever the better phrasing is

and it's actually on four legs, but it can be bipedal to run faster or hunt, whatever

goofy :D

[hidden current]

I’m sure it won’t change the meta forever and end up being the best thing ever seen in competitive play that will make many people ragequit in the competitive format.

[robust wren]

Nah that's reserved for the DLC poster boy in 2 years

[noble ice]

So what do you guys think that the two box art legendary types are gonna be?

well, obviously, the winds box Art legendary is gonna be a flying type and the waves box aren’t legendary is going to be a water type, what’s there secondary type gonna be?

[cunning sierra]

I made a theory on that way back, one sec so I can find it

[noble ice]

I hope they don’t go the easy route by making them both dragon types

[cunning sierra]

I dropped this theory a few times here but this was the first one

As for the Winds Legendary, to continue with the Filipino mythology of Tambanokano, it could be Bukanawa, a serpent that "eats" the moon and creates eclipses and in some cases creates strong winds

[noble ice]

This is actually a good theory I really like it.

[cunning sierra]

Thank you!

[lime void]

Considering that the box art legend for Pokémon Sun wasn’t a fire type, that’s not as much of a guarantee as you think it is

[noble ice]

Ehh maybe

[robust wren]

Just like how Lugia lives in the ocean but isn't Water type, the Winds Legendary lives in the sky but is actually Water/Dragon

[finite totem]

Wind one might just be electric for storm as well

I actually wonder what would 3rd legendary follow (since we have a 3rd story legendary since Gen 2 and that is probably because first 2 gens legendaries were just strong stuff even not really a 'trio')

I doubt it would necessarily follow on the title and be a grass/ground/rock since we have whale/dino/draco trio

Electric maybe?

[robust wren]

I'll hold off on speculation on a 3rd member until we get a proper look at the Legends and see what theming they have beyond "Kyogre and Rayquaza but again"

[opal gull]

ntm last 2 gens teh third legends didnt relate that close designwise, I guess there was the antagonist/dragon to the heroes aspect but still

[dark mirage]

me personally I think that the waves legendary is going to be a manta ray

[velvet forum]

i hope the waves legendary is like a kraken

that would be cool

[finite totem]

I think it will be eternal floette and surf pikachu

[jagged cedar]

I really like this crab idea

We need more crabmon

[forest egret]

Obligatory crabmon tier list post

[jagged cedar]

Barbaracle and golisopod aren't crabs but ig they fit under the banner of crustacean

But we still need more crabs

[forest egret]

Over half of these dudes aren't crabs

[jagged cedar]

They're crab-adjacent at the very least

[forest egret]

Including Slowbro

The best crab

[jagged cedar]

Did not see him

That is NOT a crab

[forest egret]

Erm....

Don't you feel foolish now

[jagged cedar]

Zamn

I am a fool

I know nothing

[forest egret]

The crab legendary idea does seem fun though

[jagged cedar]

I'm feeling like a silly clown rn

[forest egret]

I wouldn't mind an arthropod box legend, though I wonder if from a marketing standpoint they'd ever do that

[jagged cedar]

I suppose a crab could be hard to market

It's not a dragon, after all

[forest egret]

Dragons and kaiju sell really well which is usually why they're the ones they slap on the box and sell 40 trillion plushies of

[jagged cedar]

Crabs are very popular too but maybe not as much as dragons

[forest egret]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-crab-swimming-cute-coming-gif-7939578

[jagged cedar]

See who doesn't like these little guys

[forest egret]

I love these critters. Gamefreak if you're listening (and I know you are), put a crab on the front cover

[jagged cedar]

It doesn't even need to be a legendary

Just put a png of a crab on the cover

[forest egret]

It's like on the corner like Funky Mode

[jagged cedar]

A little sticker saying "Featuring crab from the ocean" like the Dante one on the SMT 3 boxes

[forest egret]

Hell yeah

If they did this I might buy a Switch 2 and this game

[jagged cedar]

I'd definitely consider it

[lyric stratus]

I mean I understand the hermit crab thought

[jade ocean]

This feels like a Shellfish Blastoise or Mouse Cyndaquil moment

[velvet forum]

Give us a kraken legendary

that would be sick

[forest egret]

That could be a fun legendary you find off to the side

If they're going for an even bigger exploration focus this time around then it would be cool if they hid some legendaries in hard-to-find places

[velvet forum]

well we know already that there will be underwater exploration

so i guarentee we are getting some cool aquatic legendaries

[forest egret]

Ye, I just hope we get some more dudes that are out of the way. I liked in SV that the treasures of ruin are just a cool side thing that you can miss if you don't go looking

[velvet forum]

except when you actually gotta find like 500 different fucking stakes in the ground

that shit was stupid

[forest egret]

And of course, the Regis in gen 3 are iconic for that. Though I don't expect anything as cryptic

[forest egret]

That stuff does suck yeah

That's just pointless busywork

[velvet forum]

It would be cool if we got hms again i think we might if we arw diving underwater

give us like hidden sea caverns that lead to legendaries

[forest egret]

I liked how Sun and Moon did the HMs, even if the game itself never really uses them

[velvet forum]

i have a big feeling that gen 10 is just gonna be a baby of hoenn/alola

Im guessing that the map will be different islands you travel to

[forest egret]

The underwater stuff especially is making me think of Hoenn. I always liked Dive but it was underbaked in execution, so this could be fun to see done better

[velvet forum]

Especially with the overhaul of the water in this game

it seems like we are getting really nice and detailed underwater regions

you can see under the water in the trailer they got very high detailed coral reefs and stuff

[forest egret]

Hell yeah

I always liked ocean settings in games

I even liked the big ass oceans in Emerald though definitely only with repels

Big ass oceans that actually have stuff in them though? That sounds awesome

[robust wren]

So many cool underwater amd deep sea creatures to take inspiration from that have a solid chance to be seen now

I'm hoping for a siphonophore of some variety

[broken siren]

I’m pleading for this game to be good

PLEADING

(I didn’t play much of scarlet so idk how that one was lol)

[jagged cedar]

It definitely wasn't great

It was still fine because it's Pokémon, and Pokémon is fun

But after playing it I definitely don't have hope for the quality of gen 10

[opal gull]

they are at leas tspending more time this time

[sinful vale]

Yeah. 4-4.5 years for development rather than 11 months is a good sign.

[velvet forum]

https://tenor.com/view/slomnir-pokemon-gen-x-gecqua-gecko-gif-15278327733892955014

gecqua gang

[supple bone]

lol someone i talked to irl is so i hate modern pokemon games pilled that they are like anyone who buys gen 10 is wrong and should be punished

[robust wren]

I'm nothing if not critical of modern Pokémon, but FFS it's not like people enjoying them is the end of the world

[lime void]

Bro, we’ve seen one trailer, at least wait until the games come out to start hating on them (referring to your friend, not you)

[supple bone]

not even my friend just someone i was talking to at a lcs. though after i said people will just buy them because they dont hate it like you do they stormed off in a hissyfit

[lime void]

And I say this as someone who thinks that the Switch era of Pokémon is flawed

[robust wren]

Hatedoms will always reach a point where they're more insufferable than Fandoms.

Lord, have you seen how livid some people were about Pokopia reviewing well?

[supple bone]

honestly true. like ive seen so many people for so many fandoms blindly hate games they have never even played or seen gameplay of just because the youtuber they watch said it was a bad game and they personally didnt like it. though the crazy fans always take that as game is bad and we should harass anyone who likes said game or game series

[robust wren]

WiWa are the first games since the 3DS era where what was shown off from a visual sense genuinely has me interested. The graphics that have been shown off genuinely has me optimistic. Cautiously optimistic mind you, but still optimistic.

[acoustic igloo]

I recommend them. Peak games.

[forest egret]

rips off my shirt revealing my "I ❤️ Teostra" tattoo on my chest

https://tenor.com/view/teostra-monster-hunter-monster-hunter-world-zoomies-gif-317373368505208409

[olive panther]

Teo's a great fire lion.

[tame remnant]

The Toaster.

[jagged cedar]

We need malfestio back...

I would give John capcom my soul to bring malfestio back

[forest egret]

I was never too fond of Malfestio

Him just being a big owl makes him stand out weirdly tbh

[velvet forum]

https://tenor.com/view/slomnir-pokemon-gen-x-gecqua-gecko-gif-15278327733892955014

[forest egret]

Ironically Seregios is the better "owl" monster despite not being an owl

https://tenor.com/view/cutie-gif-6834791716970400425

[velvet forum]

lizar

[autumn shore]

Since winds and waves is based in southern asia we could do with regional variants and new species based on real life animals and fictional myths

[velvet forum]

you arent real

[jagged cedar]

I looooove the armour and weapons

And I'm just a sucker for owls

[fickle birch]

I hope we get more Regional Variants, because Paldea massively flubbed on that part, even if the few we did get were great. 🙂

Convergent evolutions kind of take up a similar space, but both can coexist for sure. 😄

[velvet forum]

Give us a tropius evolution

[acoustic igloo]

We deserve Delibird and Luvdisc evos.

[robust wren]

Imagine Gamefreak just adds another heart themed fish and it has no relationship to either Luvdisc or Alomomola

[finite totem]

And has stats over alomomola or under luvdisc just for that to be stronger

[acoustic igloo]

At that point, I'd give up...

[finite totem]

Wiwa will suck because it does not have battle pass, horse armor dlc or triple t collab

https://tenor.com/view/tung-tung-tun-sahur-triple-t-baseball-gd-factory-gda-gif-1854852880634152667

[finite totem]

Oh it also has no denuvo bad game 👎

[brazen jetty]

wiwa

[manic tide]

iima pick pombon and name him gizmo

[cunning sierra]

I have zero idea what I'd name Browt. I think just for an early name and it's my easy answer nickname system, it'll be Stringbean

When all else fails, just name it after food

[tepid flame]

That's why you play WuWa instead

Cuz they have that

[amber monolith]

SwSh is better anyway

[velvet forum]

swsh is garbage

[tepid flame]

Swoosh

[fickle birch]

Fawful. 😄

https://tenor.com/view/mario-and-luigi-gba-fawful-game-boy-advance-gif-18229365

[cunning sierra]

Nah

[forest egret]

Greenbean

[chilly breach]

Angry Bird

[forest egret]

Rovio

[chilly breach]

That's a good name

[velvet forum]

Even tho gecqua is a gecko im naming mine rango

[forest egret]

Rango's a good name. I wonder how fitting it'll continue to be as it evolves

[velvet forum]

https://tenor.com/view/rango-gun-revolver-holster-sheriff-gif-8038296960832694575

[forest egret]

Love that movie

https://tenor.com/view/rango-jake-snake-gif-19181827

[velvet forum]

Rango was definitely one of my favorites growing up

[forest egret]

Rattlesnake Jake one of the hardest character designs ever

[velvet forum]

just to get soloed by the goat rango

[forest egret]

He had help

But you're right Rango does prove himself in their duel

[velvet forum]

But yeah im gonna name my gecqua rango or Curt

As in Curt Conners from spiderman

[forest egret]

Lizar

[peak night]

browt

[forest egret]

I'm gonna browt

https://tenor.com/view/thegabeman2010-gif-12534341284283430705

[velvet forum]

what the hell

[dark mirage]

i think im gonna name my gecqua shantae bc of a theory i saw

[undone sky]

IM SHIDDSING

[finite totem]

And I am naming my browt Bulbasaur when I get to catch or trade it later (and get a sw2)

[rain silo]

Hehe good doggo
speculative evo

[cunning sierra]

I love it!

its like a better version of my sketch in some way

I also love that the dots make up a sun shaped marking

[raw pelican]

Istg Pokémon gonna make it evolve and be on 2 legs😭😭

[rain silo]

Possibly^^’ but let’s hope it’s at least cool

I’m thinking for pombon on 4s and gecqua on 2 and browt on 2

I feel like pombon staying on 4 makes the most sense so maybe it won’t stand^^

[undone sky]

God I hope so

[robust wren]

Almost the entire Fandom has united around the hope that Pombon remains on all fours (and also a huge hope that it becomes a fairy)

[forest egret]

I don't really care how many legs he stands on

There's so much more to a design than just the stance it doesn't really matter

It doesn't help that all the memes about starters on all fours are just so Reddit-tier lol, like at this point it's so corny, the people who don't shut up about it are more annoying than the bipedalism itself

[tepid flame]

You gotta admit though almost all the bipedal final starters with the culture we have rn are great furrybait

Like Gen 3 is super accidental, Gen 4 was them testing the waters, by Gen 6-7 it's all out

[lyric stratus]

How is 4 testing the water
Tf you wanna do with a Monkey

[tepid flame]

I was talking more overall lol not necessarily the final starters only but ur not wrong

I would argue Infernape and Empoleon could've looked more monstrous stiill ala Torterra

[forest egret]

Yeah the penguin should've been on all fours

[lyric stratus]

The Monkey should look like a bear cuz Monkeys are humanoid

[forest egret]

Bears are people too

[lyric stratus]

True

[amber monolith]

bears are not people in the sense that they are not humans, but bears are people in the sense that they have feelings

there's probably something goofy in there, which is what i was getting at

[fickle birch]

Silly Psycho, Goofy is a dog! 😛

[amber monolith]

but i said "goofy"

"Goofy" is a proper noun, a name for a person

"goofy" is an adjective

[fickle birch]

Not a person, not a bear, a dog! They also deserve proper nouns. 😂

[amber monolith]

i was using it as an adjective

[amber monolith]

not sure, but i think there's more licks for WiWa

but i ain't saying anything else

🤐

might not even be real, idk

prob wasn't real, there were multiple starter evolutions

🤐

[cunning sierra]

It's 10 generations of Pokémon, they could easily do that

One line that follows the type triangle and the other being random types

[latent ether]

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-out-black-guy-tweaking-meme-gif-6022943353035016664

I spent 73 fucking ultra balls on cresella

[latent ether]

Wrong channel

lol

[hazy knot]

Cresellia in WiWa!?

[robust wren]

The waves gotta be caused by some moon adjacent legend

[cunning sierra]

There are moon eating deities in Filipino lore which I've mentioned a few times

Tambanakano, a large crab said to live at the bottom of the ocean, and Bukanawa, a massive serpent said to control the wind

[rain silo]

Hoping they end up doing two different legends after having basically the same legend last two gens

[cunning sierra]

I'm still hoping for a crab legendary or even a new whale because they can do a lot with a whale legendary cough cough Sky Whale cough cough

[desert current]

It would be funny if they did a Sky Crab instead.

[autumn shore]

What is everyone's predictions for new Pokemon?
Is there gonna be a regional bird, rodent or bug type?
What will the legendary duo be like and who are they?
Is returning Pokemon gonna have regional forms or a convergent species who are related or totally unrelated?
Pseudo legendary of the region?
Version exclusives?

[lime void]

SV killed the regional bird, so can’t say for sure if that’s going to reappear. Regional rodents were never a thing, since Sentret isn’t a rodent, but they probably will have some kind of weak early game normal type. Every game has had an early game bug type though (technically BW didn’t, but they fixed that in B2W2) so they probably will in Gen 10. Absolutely no clue on what the box art legends could be, other then the Winds legendary being flying type and the waves legendary being water type (though since the Sun legendary wasn’t a fire type, even that’s not a guarantee). We’re definitely going to have either regional variants or convergent forms if not both.
Absolutely no clue what they’re going to do for the pseudo and anything I came up with would be pure speculation at best. Finally, they’re probably going to make Stonjournar and Eiscue version exclusives (assuming they’re both in the game) since they’ve done that 2 Gens in a row now, but otherwise I have no way of knowing what version exclusive pairs they’re going to make since I don’t know what new Pokémon they’re making and they’re not consistent with version exclusive pairs for older Pokémon

[forest egret]

SV's is kind of a strange case tbh

Wattrel isn't found at the starting location, but because of how SV is, you can just... go there and catch him if you like

If people were to lump Wattrel in with the others I wouldn't really be opposed

[lime void]

Thing is, it will be high enough level that it won’t obey you unless you have one or two gym badges

The only other regional bird you can’t catch before the first gym is Pidove in BW. And even then, you can catch it before the first gym in B2W2, which is still in its debut generation

And the only regional bird you can’t catch on the first route of the game aside from those 2 is Taillow

[forest egret]

You can a level 19 wattrel in area two, which means you can use one without disobedience

[lime void]

Plus, every other regional bird starts out as normal/flying, except for Rookidee, which is pure flying, which is spiritually the same thing

Meanwhile, Watrel is electric/flying

[forest egret]

Idk if the typing really matters. I mean it doesn't for Rookidee

Idc if it's "spiritually the same" that's kinda arbitrary

The fact that he's pure flying makes in one of the strangest flying types in general really, seeing as he's one of the only pokemon that have that

[indigo mango]

my guess is the legend will be only 1 mon who will have a cloud and water form and you get one through whatever version you pick

[lime void]

I highly doubt they’re not going to make 2 legendarys

[forest egret]

You really think so? I think it'll be 2 legends

[indigo mango]

it would technically still be 2 in this game but probably be one in anything after

like can only get cloud in winds and water in waves

just works do to water turning to cloud, its a conversion

[undone sky]

Only one legendary would be lame as hell

[finite totem]

and also legendaries is a big factor for them to make paired releases

and we always had a duo or trio (or duo/trio + 1)

besides kanto which lacked a legendary relevant to plot

[jade ocean]

Tbf Lugia wasn't exactly relevant to the plot in Silver iirc

[finite totem]

Do I say
A- It is cover art and that is enough
B- that is just Kanto two point o

[lime void]

C - both

[finite totem]

[forest egret]

Ho-Oh's not relevant to the plot either so they're pretty even in that regard

Ho-oh has more lore and embeds itself into the region more naturally, but none of that really comes up in the story

[indigo mango]

ok?

2 forms are still 2 covers incase that somehow wasnt clear

2 being more then 1

it would also be something original

they already tried something different in sumo by having the 2 legends start out as the same legend

so making it this time so that it has 2 forms would add something then just have it be the same thing again as always

it would also work again cause of how water and clouds work. rather then be seperate they are the same thing but in a different form

[forest egret]

I guess we'll see, but it seems that this guess is based more on want than anything else

[indigo mango]

no? its based on how water works

i dont care what it will be

its just my guess

[forest egret]

I'm not talking about how water works, I'm saying that the guess is for the legends themeing itself

[indigo mango]

if uts the same thing as always then sure but thats not really a theory. thats just saying its how it always is

[indigo mango]

ye. the theming being about how water works

rather then 2 legends, it can turn from water to cloud and cloud to water

[forest egret]

What I'm saying is that we don't really know if the legends will be 2 forms of the same creature, and that the concept is a guess. Not that the concept of how water and clouds relate to each other obviously

[indigo mango]

i know we dont know, thats what makes it a theory. i just mentioned my reasoning for it due to you saying its just what i want. when no its not. its just my theory on what it could be

most obvious answer is just 2 legends

even when pokemon did something different like cosmog. it was a split evolution but still 2. then Koraidon and Miraidon are techncially the same Pokemon but still not just forms

so yeah like no reason it wouldnt be just 2 again. but for how this works. i think it be interesting if they actually use this to make it different

outside of water to clouds another thing was the cloud creature in the trailer changing designs. like it wasnt 2 clouds. it was just 1 that changed shape

which again its a theory, its not a want. its not a im correct. its just what they could be going for

[fickle birch]

I hope we get two radically different legendaries, because both SwSh and SV had ones that were similar to each other. I want a plesiosaur and pterodactyl. 😄

Or a sea serpent and cool bird. 🙂

[olive panther]

All I want from the games is another non-dragon pseudo.

[fickle birch]

Oh for sure, that'd be great. 😄

[tepid flame]

Imagine

Normal/Ghost pseudo

Ohhhhhhhh boyyyyyy

[acoustic igloo]

Hopefully Fairy

[olive panther]

Honestly I wouldn't mind a fairy pseudo.

[finite totem]

Well it certainly would be an unorthodox kind of fairy like this guy

[fickle birch]

I think it'd be fun to get a Bug-type pseudo, especially when Larvitar and Bagon both have cocoon middle stages, so it's not fully unprecedented. 😅

[finite totem]

This made me check volcarona stats

I mean it already fails 3 stage req but I thought it had somewhere around 590-600

It has 550

[robust wren]

Volcarona just has its stats in the right place. And also the arguably best boosting move of all time

[finite totem]

I always thought it was around legendaries

Well not a surprise since bug types average like this

Which is probably because every game has 2 of them that fully evolves by lvl 10 and you have no use after 3rd gym

[spare roost]

my masquerain had many uses in Paldea

[jade ocean]

Makes sense you thought so

Given the presentation of Volcarona in its debut generation is arguably more legendary than some actual legendaries

My GOAT ♥️

[robust wren]

One of the only non-legendary Pokémon to have actual lore behind it

Aside from it, it's what, Lucario and Glimmora?

[opal gull]

zoroark?

[indigo mango]

most mons have lore

Conkeldurr gave Humans concrete

if you look at plenty mons you will find something there to have them feel "lore" related

assuming you mean human lore

[rustic salmon]

quagsire theorem

[forest egret]

Yeah idk what you mean by this

People put Darumaka's feces in their clothes to keep warm lol that's essentially the same tier of lore Volcarona has

If you mean that Volcarona's one of the few non-legendaries who is worshipped, that'd make sense

[robust wren]

Being worshipped by an ancient civilization isn't lore to you? Really?

[forest egret]

No, it is

But to say it's one of the only mons with lore is kind of a silly statement

Like again, people worship Volcarona, and people put red monkey shit in their pants. These are both "lore" and the volcarona thing is only elaborated on ever-so slightly more than the latter

[finite totem]

Good thing Vikavolt is in clear because its prevo had an epic history of being karts

https://tenor.com/view/charjabug-car-rumble-gif-9630811

[desert current]

Every Pokemon has lore, they're called "Pokedex entries."

[lyric stratus]

Thats just bs

[ruby frost]

Why do I gotta buy a switch 2 to play a game that's gon be straight ahh 😭

[lyric stratus]

You know it bad how?

[amber monolith]

guys, crazy theory

pokemon winds and waves

that’s air and sea

It’s just gonna be rayquaza and kyogre

[velvet forum]

Bring regional variants of the hoenn trio to wiwa

legendary trio and the starter trio

[cunning sierra]

I mean, ||the little drawing done by Ansha in the end credits of the Z-A DLC|| could make cool regional forms

[velvet forum]

precisely

[finite totem]

I mean Ray is the dude that fixed stuff in Hoenn. And you needed Kyogre + Groudon to catch it on some other games. (Namely HGSS)

Ho-Oh and Lugia sounds a better point if there was even a return

And yeah there is no reason to not think we won't really have something about a trio return.
SwSh gave new Regis and Galatian birds. LA gave origin formes and a new force of nature. SV gave paradoxes of Unovan swords and Johtonese dogs. ZA... Yeah it just gave mega zygarde

[opal gull]

any good "leaks" for today

[acoustic igloo]

I hope they do something with the Lake Guardians. They're unfortunately neglected.

[cosmic path]

It's funny that the pokemon representing all knowledge,willpower and emotion are all just in random lakes

[robust wren]

I've got your leaks right here

[opal gull]

not really worth pinging for

[hazy knot]

I disagree

[opal gull]

tfw everybody disagrees with you

[ruby frost]

They should remake sun and moon

[amber monolith]

and then make them go ultra

[finite totem]

They should just unify them

[finite totem]

Official side obviously no since channel has nothing. Rule 9 violations are also no.

[opal gull]

bruh look at the date and the quotations marks

[finite totem]

I seen that

[finite totem]

I mean lake guardians can use something new but then again I can't see much ways to use em without Sinnoh or at least Sinnoh's legends

Which we just had in Gen 8

[lapis eagle]

Ok HEAR ME OUT with this drawing

[unborn cave]

its absolutely worth pinging for

[unborn cave]

quagsire new regional form

[opal gull]

it's absolutely worth ignoring for

[rustic salmon]

mega quagsire please please please please please please please

GAME FREAK! RELEASE MEGA QUAGSIRE AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!

[indigo mango]

Quagsire is dead

even in Pokopia they used Clodsire

[lime void]

The Quagsire line just got a regional variant. And even if it didn’t, Quagsire needs a regular evo, not a mega

[indigo mango]

Quagsire looks finished

it does not need an evo

[forest egret]

Yeah I'd rather a mega than a normal evo for him, if he had to have one or the other

[lime void]

Yep, that BST looks SUPER finished

Especially when compared to Duraludon

[jade ocean]

I think they're moreso referring to design here

But like idk I feel like it isn't the only Pokemon whose design works as it currently is that got an evolution anyways

I mean I don't think Chansey from a design perspective (or stats perspective for that matter) needed an evolution

But it got one anyways

[lime void]

Even then, I can easily see it being a middle stage

[jade ocean]

So I'd rather focus on stats

[lime void]

And it desperately needs the power boost

[jade ocean]

And when it comes to stats, Quagsire does kinda need more

And I'd rather it be an evolution than a Mega

Because giving something a Mega means that that line won't be getting any further evolutions

[forest egret]

He's a perfect lifeform

[jade ocean]

And will be stuck as is unless they get a ridiculous new move/ability etc

So if the Mega flops, it's joever

[lime void]

Not in the stats department

[forest egret]

He's perfect

[jade ocean]

And even if it doesn't, Megas won't always be around

And the likes of Mawile and Sableye suffer for that

[indigo mango]

i dont care for stats

[forest egret]

They're not perfect lifeforms

[lime void]

Which is exactly why I don't understand why they gave megas for so many Pokémon with under 500 BST in ZA

[forest egret]

Huh

[jade ocean]

I think that was a scam

[indigo mango]

and most mons wont ever be useful in online battles, they will still be useful in the actual games tho

[jade ocean]

Based on it being 4 images

[forest egret]

What's yag doing outside the automod channel

[lime void]

You just noticed that. That's been happening all day

[forest egret]

I haven't been on the server really all day, I got work soon

Hmmmmm

[jade ocean]

Ngl Camerupt gives Fire/Ground an unecessarily bad reputation

It's pretty good defensively and amazing offensively

It's just that Camerupt would be ass even if it were a Steel/Fairy

Because its stats are utter dogshit

And they gave it a Mega instead of an evolution

Amazing

This is the ace of an Evil Team Leader btw

[lime void]

TBF, this was back when they probably thought megas were going to be in every Pokémon game

[jade ocean]

Camerupt suffers from all 3 common symptoms of being a Gen 3 Pokemon

It's slow

It's frail

And it tries to be a mixed attacker

[indigo mango]

laame

[jade ocean]

And ends up having poor Attack AND SpA

Not to mention it has a low BST on par with Basculin, who has a better stat spread btw

And Basculin got an evolution. Very late, but still

[lime void]

No, what Basculin got was a clone of it that stole its evolution

[jade ocean]

Eh, fair enough take I suppose

As long as you also accept that Goodra needs something

And that Hisuian Goodra doesn't count

[lime void]

Hisuian Goodra absolutely counts

[forest egret]

Though it's good defensively for other types, being weak to Earthquakes and Aqua Jets kinda makes it a harder typing to justify than say... bug/steel. The typing would need more than just a pretty good pokemon to justify usage in competitive

[jade ocean]

No, it would only need a pretty good Pokemon

It isn't a primarily defensive type after all

It's an offensive type with a decent defensive profile

And what an offensive type it is

[forest egret]

I think it would need a pokemon who's super offensive and fast. The defensive aspect doesn't matter that much

I don't think fire/ground would work on a defensive pokemon with really good stats, it would still kinda suffer

[jade ocean]

I mean, depends on the defensive Pokemon's stats

Ting-Lu makes Dark/Ground work

And I am confident in saying that Dark/Ground is a lot worse

In fact, it's lowkey the only thing keeping Ting-Lu balanced

Ofc this is an extreme example, but it's an example nonetheless

[forest egret]

I don't see dark/ground as a bad typing

[jade ocean]

It's pretty good offensively, yeah

But it's a bit defensively dubious

Definitely more than Fire/Ground at least

Water and Ground are Fire/Ground's only 2 weaknesses

They're bad ones ofc

But that's only 2

Dark/Ground is weak to Fairy, Ice, Fighting, Water, Grass and Bug

4 of which are monstrous offensive types

And 1 of which having an extremely spammable move of its type

Grass is uhhh

[forest egret]

A x4 weakness to a common and pretty strong typing is kind of devastating, though

[jade ocean]

Well it's a weakness to it

[lime void]

https://tenor.com/view/danganronpa-no-thats-wrong-makoto-naegi-gif-26672582

Bug is neutral

[jade ocean]

No it isn't

Bug is neutral to Ground

[lime void]

Yes it is

[jade ocean]

In fact it's also neutral to Rock

[lime void]

Ground resists bug

[jade ocean]

Wrong way around

Bug resists Ground

[forest egret]

Dark/Ground type calc

[jade ocean]

You may be thinking of Fighting vs Bug

Where they resist each other

[forest egret]

Thanks yag

[jade ocean]

But yeah, generally you're switching out of any weakness anyways

And is a quad weakness to Water overshadowing every other weakness Dark/Ground has to deal with?

[lime void]

Oh wait nevermind, I was looking at the Ground type attack section of bulbapedia, not the resistance section

[jade ocean]

Not to me, it isn't

They have similarly useful resistances and immunities though

Psychic immunity is whatever

But Electric immunity is nice

[lime void]

Someone “no that’s wrong” me

[jade ocean]

And both types have a resist to Poison which is a bit niche but it's cool