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[lime void]

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[rotund edge]

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[vocal charm]

I can’t tell if it’d be funnier if luvdisc and alomomola finally got evos or if we get a third unrelated useless pink fish

[terse locust]

i was wondering what ts meant 😭

[forest summit]

you mean Bruxish?

[vocal charm]

Fourth, then

[eager flower]

Wouldn't it be hillarious if they suddenly connected Luvdisc and Alomomola into an evolution line after all these years? :D somehow

[lyric stratus]

I think going with dragon type is too easy
Me and friends made a fakemon Komodo that is Ground/Poison wait I show you

[forest summit]

naw, Sawk and Throh

[visual fable]

poison would make sense

[lyric stratus]

Komonium

[visual fable]

omg can we get a sepak takraw variant for scorbunny

[coarse drift]

Also, this would be an amazing pokemon to be based off of

[visual fable]

musk deer yesssss

[terse locust]

regional rhyhorn line please 🥹

[vocal charm]

Also what are your predictions for the pikaclone?
Unless you think Wavychu and Windychu are gonna be it 🤔

[forest summit]

Komodo dragons aren't even venomous... they have venom glands but don't seem to use them

[eager flower]

I dont know what this animal is called. I am going to call it vampire deer

[visual fable]

isn't their bite so full of bacteria that it's very infectious

[lyric stratus]

They use them and your sentence contradicts itself

[forest summit]

fake

[lime void]

That sounds like a Z crystal for Kommo-o

[lyric stratus]

Old myth they just are venomous

[coarse drift]

I love them, and I want 20

[visual fable]

well that's easier

[lyric stratus]

Yeah but comes from Komodo dragon and Plutonium/Uranium

[forest summit]

their teeth sheethe themselves in their gums, so where would the bacteria come from?

[grim trench]

https://x.com/a_______garyoku/status/2027404128373407864?s=46

natsu🌞 (@a_______garyoku)

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[eager flower]

Honestly Pokémon have been stretching what "poison" means before. Not that I mind. It does not have to be literal toxin.

[vocal charm]

And regardless, they don’t need to be poisonous or venomous to be Poison type
See: Trubbish

[lyric stratus]

Btw why do Komodo Dragons look so friendly

[vagrant pelican]

There definitely has to be an anglerfish in waves

[forest summit]

they have venom glands and don't use them... therefore are not venomous

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/komodo-dragon-komodo-hype-komodo-lizard-yawn-gif-19958764

[eager flower]

Like, last game, we got paint as poison type

[forest summit]

Lantern?

[vocal charm]

🤔 lanturn or a regional?

[vagrant pelican]

A scarier uglier one 🤣

[lyric stratus]

And how does they prey get venom in theyr blood?

[lime void]

If not friend, then why friend shaped?

[forest summit]

their prey gets poo in their blood from gross water

[eager flower]

I once made an anglerfish "Delta" version of Koffing/Weezing, lol

[vocal charm]

Toothless

[coarse drift]

Lanturn unhinges it's jaw to reveal shark teeth as a regional form xD

[lyric stratus]

absolutly

[forest summit]

again, they sheathe their teeth in their gums

[lyric stratus]

Poo doesnt have the same effects as the prey animals suffer

[lime void]

So does Toothless

https://giphy.com/gifs/1jR2xfbGIaLbG

[vagrant pelican]

Also a rhino Pokémon that isn't made of stone would be nice too

[forest summit]

does Nidoran line count?

[lyric stratus]

you sure you dont mix something up?

[vocal charm]

Yes, that’s what I said

[undone sky]

the dog will be a buff bipedal fire/fighting type heed my words our boy will fall into the stereotype

[lyric stratus]

Better imagine a buff dog with a cute fluffy derp face

[lime void]

No, he will be a majestic Fire/Fairy type

[undone sky]

No he will be a Grown Man

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/armor-armour-weapon-shield-sword-gif-16662830196980649229

[vagrant pelican]

I mean I guess but I want a big, none stone, none poison quadrupedal rhino 🤣

[visual fable]

We need actually scary fish

[vocal charm]

Bipedal yes, but it will have a halo of fiery wisps and be Fire/Fairy

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/woolly-rhino-prehistoric-planet-ice-age-woolly-rhino-scimithar-cats-prehistoric-planet-ice-age-prehistoric-planet-gif-6959942947775669270

[undone sky]

No he will be a huge buff man

[visual fable]

God I love tree kangaroos. I think we actually have this one at our local zoo

[coarse drift]

NO, DON'T JINX IT DDD':

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/fuecoco-pokemon-pokemon-day-fuecoco-pokemon-pokemon-fuecoco-gif-16752525841281364355

[undone sky]

My friend always gets mad when people are mad that starters become bipedal but like come the hell on girl they ALL BECOME BIPEDAL

[vagrant pelican]

Right? All the fish we have are derpy and not scary

[visual fable]

The evidence is fairly strong. Islands and ocean emphasis, volcano, people living on the water, and we already had Hawaii so what's left? South East Asia

[vagrant pelican]

Me too, they're so cute

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-bird-crocodile-fuecoco-fire-starter-gif-12812610284360724984

[undone sky]

WE'RE IN SEA BABY!!!!!

[lyric stratus]

You guys think we get fossils this gen?

[undone sky]

Yes

[visual fable]

I hope so

[eager flower]

Yes, I love Skeledirge. But notice that Skeledirge, the ONLY four legged final evo we got in many generations, did not start as quadrupet. Four legged starters did not stay on all fours since what? Turtwig?

We also have Samurott but that one started on two legs as well.

[lime void]

Kind of sort of Primarina

[eager flower]

They still turned that into a mermaid. :D

[visual fable]

Fossils have been overlooked for so long I'm always keen on more fossils

[undone sky]

He will be a Big Buff Adult Man and will have No Indonesian lore he will just be an Eyesore

[lyric stratus]

Grookey is a 50/50 case imo

[visual fable]

Maybe we could have mammal fossils this time

[undone sky]

What the fuck is a Mammal

[coarse drift]

I was just saying this!!

[lyric stratus]

Fossil mons have such potential even more if they ditch the rock type

[undone sky]

Those didn't exist in fossil times

[eager flower]

Hope we get actual fossils that are not abominations against nature this time. Speaking as someone who absolutely loves said abominations.

[lyric stratus]

we are

[vagrant pelican]

I hope so but not like they did last time, I hated that

[visual fable]

I really want to see Pikachu in a songkok it would be so funny

They would never do it

[burnt vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-winds-and-waves-starter-pokemon-pombon-pombon-meme-gif-6862699408995603319

[lyric stratus]

pov living with Dinosaurs

[undone sky]

Photoshopped image those aren't Real

[lyric stratus]

tbf last fossils were abominations cuz of England

[eager flower]

ok, I need to take a look if they found some interesting fossils in Indionesia

[lyric stratus]

Man poor Leptictidium

[visual fable]

Nothing comes to mind but with Papua included we have marsupials right

[forest sable]

Pompon is cool

[lyric stratus]

Apparantly non note worthy ones

[forest sable]

He’s shaped like a pompom

https://tenor.com/view/pompompurin-sanrio-yellow-gif-26136839

[eager flower]

I know this is not Indonesia but they are related to orangutans and those are very indonesian so... let me hope for Gigantopithecus :D

[vagrant pelican]

A sabertooth tiger fossil Pokémon would be cool

[forest sable]

Do you think spheal will get a mega

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/prehistoric-park-supercroc-phorusrhacos-terror-bird-titanosaur-gif-7152971491177477248

[visual fable]

Peak

[sinful dagger]

I suggested a quadraped as the final evo of browt and now we're hoping for a kakapo griffon

[forest sable]

I need a spheal mega

[visual fable]

Didn't they say megas wouldn't be continuing

[burnt vessel]

youtube has a special logo for pokemon day but idk what that thing on the left is meant to be

[forest sable]

:0

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/prehistoric-park-arthropleura-gif-10854191660075520608

[visual fable]

Trainer hat I guess

[burnt vessel]

spheal has an evo so cant happen

[undone sky]

Ah yes Spheal the final evo of Walrein

[lyric stratus]

Bug fossil when again?

[forest sable]

I can still dream

[lime void]

Spheal can’t mega evolve. It’s not a fully evolved Pokémon

[lyric stratus]

cap

[forest sable]

Nuh uh

[coarse drift]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugosodon

Here's a fossil of a rat from Jurassic period, so they definitely existed

[eager flower]

Erm erm... Floette... erm erm

[forest sable]

Spheal is a seperate Pokemon line

[burnt vessel]

ohhh i see now

[forest sable]

Spheal evolves into spheal

[visual fable]

Wrong

[undone sky]

Im joking, I'm making fun of gamefreak

[lime void]

You mean the one that can’t evolve further

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/carnotaurus-prehistoric-planet-dinosaurs-gif-25920671

[forest sable]

https://tenor.com/view/tess-spheal-gif-22641311

[eager flower]

Man I love Prehistoric Planet

[visual fable]

Carno looks like he's going super Saiyan there

[coarse drift]

Okay, my bad ^^" I couldn't tell

[forest sable]

Will spheal atleast be in the game

[undone sky]

We only have NONDESCRIPT BUG AND LIZARD!!°

[forest sable]

I’m still sad about spheal getting left out of ZA

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/spinosaurus-gif-9087451433212695409

[forest sable]

I wanna do an only spheal run

[eager flower]

still does not change the fact that Floette is not a fully evolved Pokémon. But I was mostly joking. :D and a little bit "Well technicallyyyy..." :D

[undone sky]

I love dinosaurs and ancient creatures in general I never understood why there wasn't a mammal fossil mon

[lime void]

Walrein should’ve gotten a mega

[undone sky]

Its not just floette its the Special Floette

[forest sable]

If floette can have a seperate form so can spheal

Yknow

[lyric stratus]

Prob cuz they didnt have a good idea yet and many dont think about mammals when fossils are mentiond

[forest sable]

cuz if floette gets a special form, surely spheal gets one

[lime void]

The one that can mega evolve is. Even though it is a bit of a stretch IMO

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/prehistoric-planet-velociraptor-raptor-dinosaur-dinosaurs-gif-27643011

[visual fable]

I mean I get it dinosaurs and arthropods are more cool

[lyric stratus]

Man I want non avian dinosaurs to come back qwq

[lime void]

I do think Florges should’ve also gotten a mega though

[eager flower]

honestly I hope we can get fossil Pokémon that are not dinosaurs again. Fossil mammals would be cool.

[forest sable]

https://tenor.com/view/tyrantrum-pokemon-shinypokemon-shiny-peek-gif-22995338

Whyyyy

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/gigantopithecus-prehistoric-planet-prehistoric-planet-ice-age-i-guess-bro-gif-2766462264854317159

[eager flower]

Besides, we already have a fossil raptor... well, half of one at least... kinda

[lyric stratus]

tbh we didnt get enough dino fossils either

[visual fable]

Giant sloth or wombat would be cool

[forest sable]

Could clodsire or furret get a mega if it every returns

[lyric stratus]

We need more fossils in general!

[forest sable]

Kangaroo

but BIG

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/giant-monsters-animal-planet-documentary-2003-jeff-corwin-gif-6580452082830550504

[coarse drift]

What if they had the fossils from gen 8 in their true forms?

[lime void]

Could? Yes. Should? Absolutely not

[forest sable]

Whyyyyyyyyy

[cunning sierra]

This is a stretch, but I think we could get a crab Legendary. I've bought this up in some reactions to the trailer but thunder can be heard and in Filipino mythology, there's a being known as Tambanokano which is a deity that created storms by blinking.

[lime void]

Both of those mons need regular evolutions

[eager flower]

Gen 4 was only dino fossils, gen 5 had one dino fossil, gen 6 only dino fossils again, gen 8 two dino half fossils... I'd say we can represent some more fossil animals now

[forest sable]

Furret needs this

It’s kinda homeless

Ig clodsire is alr perfect

But it would still be fun

[lyric stratus]

Btw we should get the actual forms from gen 8 fossils

[forest sable]

Galar should hire better scientists

[lyric stratus]

Like gimme silly raptor, derpy Dunkleo, cold marine reptile and some sort of dragon dino

[robust wren]

If you wanna know how bad Fire Zodiac theory has gotten, I just had someone comment to me that Fennekin could still be the dog and Pombon could be the sheep because it might evolve into a sheepdog

[undone sky]

Yeah true but like... saber tooth tiger? wooly mammoth? My Dear Friend Andrewsarchus,

[lyric stratus]

I mean I get why they used that gimmik but yeah

[eager flower]

I will not stand this slander against the briliant professor Cara Liss

[forest sable]

Yo they have names?

[lyric stratus]

tbf idk if "ice age" animals get qualified as fossils since we got Mamoswine, Raikou etc

[coarse drift]

Another Sabertooth would be good, especially since Raikou is a legend

[lime void]

Ah yes, because a fox is clearly a dog

[forest sable]

Fennekin is a fox and anyone that says otherwise is wrong

[vagrant pelican]

Mamoswine is a pig that is mammoth sized

[visual fable]

Yeah I was picturing something like this

[flint sequoia]

Its a fennec fox lmao

[forest sable]

It is?

[latent owl]

the grass

[lyric stratus]

btw something something grass starter flightless bird reminds me of own fakemons

[forest sable]

Kiwi

[sinful dagger]

I don't see any official documentation saying megas will be discontinued

[forest sable]

Yummy

[forest sable]

I’d eat that pokemon

[slate wedge]

I can’t wait for this to be Kanto 2.0 and have a majority be poison-type pokemon

[eager flower]

only in Galar, I think. Cara Liss was an amazing scientist who discovered such amazing fossil animals like fish head at the tail end of a dinosaur and a fish head sawn backwards on a plesiosaur torso, clearly wonderful creatures that absolutely existed in ancient Pokémon world

[lyric stratus]

Better Dodiwee

[lime void]

If I had a nickel for every time the Pokémon fandom called Pokémon that were very clearly not dogs dogs, I’d have 2 nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice

[forest sable]

Do you think spheal could get a regional form

[unique karma]

I believe the seed beak browt has will become a flower

[forest sable]

Cuz like it’s a summer area looking place

[latent owl]

the starters are gonna have an exclusive form using the new mechanic behind a paywall

[unique karma]

i would definitely be open to that idea

[latent owl]

remember me

[vagrant pelican]

I'm pretty sure yeah, I mean it doesn't have a trunk

[lyric stratus]

Elephant Seal Spheal goes brrrr

[slate wedge]

Poochyena moment

[lime void]

Don’t even joke about that

[eager flower]

I am shocked Pikachu still did not get a regional form and won't get one this time either. Raichu did, yes, but not Pikachu

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/elephant-seal-running-run-seal-big-gif-21499846

[forest sable]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-harp-seal-snow-seal-seals-gif-1775017174028733882

Is cute

[latent owl]

I'm not joking

I know is gonna happen

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/winnie-the-pooh-hungry-yummy-nom-nom-hangry-gif-14955634131026949607

[forest sable]

And I’m pretty sure they’re based off this guy

[forest sable]

:0

[slate wedge]

I wouldn’t be surprised

[forest sable]

WHAT

Why are you eating seal

[latent owl]

https://tenor.com/view/honse-speed-crusty-horse-run-gif-13212589417083546034

[forest sable]

The harp seal is so fluffy

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/onceler-once-ler-oncie-lorax-the-onceler-gif-6098016671795592155

[forest sable]

Very bad

[lime void]

Are you psychic and/or a game freak employee?

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/leopard-seal-attack-attacking-camera-bite-biting-gif-22586101

[mystic fern]

Fire fighting, on two legs 🧍‍♂️ Fire fighting, on two legs 🧍‍♀️ Fire fighting, on two legs 🧍

[lyric stratus]

If not friend why friend shape?

[eager flower]

I mean, seal hunting is still done in some communities. Especially Innuits do it.

[forest sable]

:0

[latent owl]

furry lion

[slate wedge]

You know, it’s funny, because when I did worldbuilding on Borneo and other SEA areas there isn’t any Seals in the entire region.

You know what there IS though? Dugongs

[forest sable]

Heyyy harp seals are friend and friend shaped

[undone sky]

True.... Not Old Enough for Nintendo

[forest sable]

So Why r u tryna eat it

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/dewgong-pokemon-cute-hello-gif-23330774

[slate wedge]

We might see Dewgong

[eager flower]

Getting a real sea cow/dugong would be neat. No, Dewgong does not count

[lyric stratus]

Stellas seacow

[forest sable]

Dugongs look like musharna

[eager flower]

I mean, sure, not as fossil (not extinct long enough to be one) but they would be neat

[lyric stratus]

I need a Mermaid seacow cuz they are likely why the Mermaid storys even exist

[forest sable]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-musharna-pokemon-black-and-white-gif-27547204

[eager flower]

that would just be an obese Primarina, lol

[slate wedge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dugong

just a reminder that these guys are currently vulnerable in the region

[lyric stratus]

and? is there something wrong with being a lil fat?

[eager flower]

did not say there is

[vagrant pelican]

I prefer the manatee sea cow 🤣

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/motomoto-gif-24380022

[latent owl]

I am

human

[lyric stratus]

We need a Moto Moto pokemon

[visual fable]

More chunky Pokemon would be cool

[eager flower]

My friend's uncle works at Nintendo

[latent owl]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bed-deflate-gif-4485064855593108883

[vagrant pelican]

Hippowdon?

[slate wedge]

Maybe a fat toad

[lyric stratus]

Imagine you chill in that region and a Pokemon looks at you and suddenly a giant 6 ft muscular thing walks towards you out of the water

[latent owl]

my friend works at nintendo

[slate wedge]

Oh, speaking of animals in SEA

Stingrays

[latent owl]

water bear

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-irwin-thumbs-up-excellent-good-nice-gif-4860119

[velvet forum]

gecqua

[eager flower]

Steve Irwin left the chat

[vocal charm]

Fully expect pombon to evolve into something like this

[lyric stratus]

He would want a Stingray poke lets be real

[slate wedge]

That guy who really likes Mantyke getting more Mantyke probably

[velvet forum]

https://tenor.com/view/gekko-gif-27330220

Ts better

[vocal charm]

The mythical

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/natalie-nat-gecko-dance-gif-5295781576522682691

[velvet forum]

https://tenor.com/view/a-gecko-is-drinking-water-gecko-viralhog-a-gecko-is-sipping-water-a-gecko-is-consuming-water-gif-13869760813230930358

Literally my starter in gen 10

[eager flower]

I mean, we all know at least one of these will be the designated furry bait. I am leaning on the Gecqua being that for this gen. It already has feminine eyes

[velvet forum]

when me and rango pop out in the cut

https://tenor.com/view/agrecko-dance-gecko-dance-gecko-animation-gecko-dance-toothless-gif-3436407362656920093

[lyric stratus]

What you mean Furry bait qwq

[slate wedge]

Which, funnily enough, this card has some funny history behind it

[vocal charm]

Sorry, they mean scalie bait

[eager flower]

scalies are subgenre of furries :D

[lyric stratus]

Im real I think the people calling some mons furry bait weird me more out than the pokes themself

Like what you mean you recognize that its meant for furrys

[visual fable]

That said zeraora is definitely bait

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/doakes-meme-doakes-quinn-doakes-gif-11727327916456848135

[visual fable]

But we shouldn't be discussing this

[vagrant pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/really-what-squint-chicken-gif-15168180

[slate wedge]

I will say I don’t like the bird starter because I think Junglefowl would’ve been cooler.

Maybe we will get a regional Torchic

[burnt vessel]

because im a furry. duh. /hj

[latent owl]

I remember a character looked like this

[visual fable]

I mean it still could be jungle fowl

[undone sky]

Its gonna be Inteleon but Feminine

[burnt vessel]

salazzle

[hazy knot]

Yay!

[lyric stratus]

I dont even expect it

[slate wedge]

I’m more so disappointed in the lack of colors if that’s the case

[lyric stratus]

I can see it getting a lil more buff

[latent owl]

is gonna be salazzle

[eager flower]

I've spent 12 years in a brony fandom. Some of my closest friends are furries. I see it when I see it :P anyway

[visual fable]

It's the first evo tho

[slate wedge]

Even with a first evo, Junglefowl are incredibly vibrant

[vocal charm]

This is a Pokémon server
Of course there are furries here

[visual fable]

But it's a baby chicken.

[latent owl]

is a first stage

[slate wedge]

It’s like saying “torchic just has orange so it’s going to turn blue”

[eager flower]

we don't know if it's a chicken to be honest

[lyric stratus]

tbr at this point every pokemon attracts them

BUT lets not continue that...

[visual fable]

No we don't but I'm hoping

[burnt vessel]

sudowoodo

[vocal charm]

The weirdest-
Actually, I’m not gonna finish that sentence

[slate wedge]

Baby Junglefowl still have patterns on this is my point

[lyric stratus]

I have friends that show me too much...
I sometimes wonder why I am friends with them...

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/vietnam-flashback-traumatized-cat-gif-7852054576948114551

[visual fable]

I feel like this one is literally newborn hence why it's all fluff

[vagrant pelican]

Well, the males are, the females not so much, they tend to be blander colours in order to blend in so that when they have young they have better chance of surviving to protect and raise their young

[vocal charm]

Maybe browt isn’t one of those but something else is

[slate wedge]

Yeah but still very complex in its patterns

Maybe we will get a gender difference

[burnt vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-winds-and-waves-starter-pokemon-pombon-pombon-meme-gif-6862699408995603319

[lyric stratus]

Birb

[eager flower]

I dont believe we will ever get a starter with any real gender differences

[slate wedge]

But I don’t think so, and typically when people think “Junglefowl” it’s the colorful tropical male variant, not the complex spotted female

[eager flower]

Yeah, I know some staters got minor ones

[slate wedge]

Hope we get something like this

[visual fable]

Starters are mostly male though ..

[slate wedge]

That would be cool as frick

[eager flower]

Yep, including Primarina

[lyric stratus]

Funny enough that explains why they are so rare

[slate wedge]

Yeah, nonetheless, just a neat idea that might happen but likely won’t

[latent owl]

venusaur

[eager flower]

yeah, that's what I count under minor difference

[slate wedge]

Torchic also has a gender difference ironically

The most infamous one

[vagrant pelican]

That would be cool, hasn't really been done massively since nidoran, there's been slight differences in other Pokémon but nidoran is the only one to have completely different Pokémon throughout for male and female

[lyric stratus]

look they come as round ones too like Browt

[slate wedge]

That would be sick af

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/unfezant-pokemon-pokemon-unfezant-male-unfezant-gif-9833371444451455630

[sinful dagger]

plsplspls give me a cockatrice or griffon final evo yesssss

[slate wedge]

We’re talking the split from the base form to two separate species.

[lyric stratus]

I dont expect a Griffon BUT a Cockatrice is beleavable

[eager flower]

Nidoran got two diiferent Pokémon because it was introduced before genders were a thing in Pokémon (besides Nidoran line themselves) if it was introduced now it would absolutely be one species

[lyric stratus]

Missed that

Does Meowstic count?

https://tenor.com/view/meowtic-psychic-pokemon-hold-hands-holding-hands-gif-9279604061278036707

[vagrant pelican]

True, but it is the first form which as a chick no bird as a gender difference, they don't get this until they're older, so maybe we will see more colour and maybe gender difference when it evolves

[slate wedge]

But it isn’t. If this was the case then when gender was eventually introduced they’d have fixed the breeding thing.

[lyric stratus]

Or they just dont care

[slate wedge]

But they didn’t because they’re still recognized as two separate species

[slate wedge]

Nidoqueen is in the “Unknown” egg group among legendaries lol, they cared about it enough.

[eager flower]

no, because Pokémon is allergic to changing stuff already introduced. If they squished Nidoran lines into one line, it would mess up the Pokédex order, and gen 1 would suddenly not have its magic 150(+1) Pokémon either

[slate wedge]

Togepi moment

[eager flower]

What's Togepi got to do with this?

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-spin-sha-gif-26863370

[slate wedge]

It was a Gen 1 mon it wasn’t ever 151.

[visual fable]

No togepi is gen 2 lol

It was in the anime as a promo for gen 2

[eager flower]

Togepi was always a gen II Pokémon, they just introduced it in anime in gen 1 as a teaser for more Pokémon to come

[slate wedge]

It was 153 because of how much they pushed Togepi into Gen 1

[vocal charm]

It debuted in the Gen 1 anime but I don’t know if it counts

[slate wedge]

Not just anime

In the merchandise too

[visual fable]

It sounds like you were not there.

[vagrant pelican]

I said throughout because it was nidoran boy, nidorino then nidoking and nidoran girl, nidorina and nidoqueen and they looked completely different, that was only the final evolution that had the difference between them for male and female

[lyric stratus]

Where does that info come

[eager flower]

I mean, Ho-Oh was literally in the first episode of anime, do we count that as gen I either?

[slate wedge]

Togepi and Togetic were, by technicality, Gen 1 Pokemon

[spare roost]

afte watching the ScarVio 1st trailer, they did show two mons that did get special forms

[visual fable]

No

By your logic Snubbull is gen 1.

[slate wedge]

Not really because Ho-Oh wasn’t a developed pokemon unlike Togepi was

[spare roost]

so that means, any of the mons that appear in the 1st WiWa trailer could get a regional/convergent/gimmick form

[slate wedge]

That would be like “the fish in the aquarium is pokemon”

[sinful dagger]

I just go by pokedex number, togepi togetic and ho-oh all appeared in the anime but were never officially in the dex. I eman technically even mega gyarados showed up in the anime before megas were introduced

[lyric stratus]

Is Donphan gen 1 too by that logic?

[vocal charm]

Closest we get is hippopotas with the very distinct gender palettes?

[lyric stratus]

WAIT WIWA
WISHI WASHI
MEGA WISHIWASHI

https://tenor.com/view/wishiwashi-saimurai-united-regions-gif-2821689726807868009

[eager flower]

Frillish line, Meowstic, we got more Pokémon like that.

[slate wedge]

Funny moments

[lyric stratus]

wasnt that the "official" pokemon handbook?

[vocal charm]

Frillish yes. Espurr isn’t sexually dimorphic

[burnt vessel]

Mew and togepi being trademarked is really funny to me

[slate wedge]

So true

[visual fable]

I mean yes back in the day it was theorised that togepi was 152 because it wasn't in the Pokedex

But it was pretty clear that it was from a new unrevealed set

[vagrant pelican]

True, I never understood why they did that and also forgot they did 🤣

[eager flower]

yeah, Togepi was a teaser for gen 2. Heck, Togepi was actually added fairly late in the development of gen 2 as far as we know, it was not even considered from the start

[spare roost]

not in the trailer

[visual fable]

This some Pikablu shit man

Oh yeah sorry Pikablu is clearly 152.

[vocal charm]

Also frillish
Elchar reminded me about frillish

[slate wedge]

Not entirely, it was more insinuating that Togepi was a legendary pokemon

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/marill-pokemon-toilet-flush-goodnight-one-last-time-gif-27506322

[sinful dagger]

I remember finding a togepi sticker in my bag of cracker jacks back when gen 2 was on the horizon. That was so exciting

[visual fable]

Dude. You weren't there. Quit this

[lyric stratus]

pikablue

[spare roost]

i mean... Unfezant has gender differences

[vocal charm]

throughout the whole line

[slate wedge]

Can’t have a discussion without someone shitsing

[vagrant pelican]

Oh yeah

[visual fable]

You can't talk about this with authority when you clearly weren't around for it

Nothing you have said is what actually happened

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/pringles-chips-chips-eating-snack-snacks-gif-12403193176112354698

[undone sky]

DONT DO THAT TO HIM WHAT THE FUCK

[vagrant pelican]

Okay, so it's been done a few times but still not that often

[undone sky]

Ai ass Gif

[eager flower]

do you consider one stage as a full line? If so, there's also Indeedee

[green shuttle]

They should make the starters evolve into cosmog

[hazy knot]

Nuh uh

[lyric stratus]

Some people are so deep in theyr own reality they dont even recognize that they are in the wrong or other things can also be true

[hazy knot]

Ai ass pip

[lyric stratus]

Idk if its ai or not tbh
Just took the first gif

[slate wedge]

Cry and sob, I’m having fun.

Anyways, to the point

[lyric stratus]

Idk how reliable those "official" pokemon handbooks are
I know many of them have a LOT of bs in them

[slate wedge]

This was the first one made and marketed

[vocal charm]

I was wavering on mentioning indeedee, but I decided that being a single-stager wouldn’t really mean much for DraconStar’s observation about the nidoran lines

[eager flower]

so where's this "Grandfather Canyon" in the games? This is clearly from the point of gen 1 anime. And these people who wrote this book did not have info about upcoming gen 2 games

[lyric stratus]

or were those the handbooks, def something that was like " i am offical" and 3 sec later say that Seviper is Arboks evo

[visual fable]

They're not. I read all of them looking for one shred of info on the new stuff back in the day. It's literally all speculation

Again, Pikablu

[slate wedge]

lol no

[eager flower]

Don't forget to save your Master Ball for a rare Pokémon like a Fearow!

[coarse drift]

It was also referenced in the 2nd gen that Togepi was a rare egg, from the very beginning from Elm and Mr. Pokemon when you get the egg, so I agree

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/whatchu-mean-no-sam-tales-cream-s3e5-gif-26654481

[visual fable]

God remember when people were afraid of Missingno wiping their saves

[coarse drift]

YES XDDD

[visual fable]

And all the starters had secret fourth god evolutions

[vagrant pelican]

You realise rare doesn't necessarily mean legendary right?

[lyric stratus]

Now I think of the Twitter thing in which someone asked whats wrong with theyr Latias

[coarse drift]

And the Berry glitch in gen 3

[sinful dagger]

back in the day my brother tried to charge me 20 bucks to duplicate my meganium in gold because I didn't know how

[visual fable]

I mean you do need to get the timing just right

[lyric stratus]

man...

[slate wedge]

Pikablu was mentioned on a TOPPS card

[sinful dagger]

20 bucks was crazy tho I was like ten

[slate wedge]

It means there’s only one which a lot of legendary pokemon were insinuated at the time to be

[lyric stratus]

man and 20 is double your age like damn

[eager flower]

There are planty of rare Pokémon that are not legendaries. Hack, in gen 1, you could get only 1 of many kinds of Pokémon like Mr. Mime, Farfetch'd, Eevee... none of that means they are legendary of course. Dux was the only known Farfetch'd in existence.

[lyric stratus]

could be so much sweets

[slate wedge]

Yeah but you see many Eevee and the rest

There’s only one Togepi

From Gen 1

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/angel-dust-angel-hazbin-hotel-smart-thinking-gif-21868885

[sinful dagger]

i didn't have an allowance, idk where he thought id get that kinda money from ahaha

[visual fable]

Taking the anime as gospel is pretty silly

Lots of things happen in the anime that aren't game canon

[somber galleon]

Love that show

[slate wedge]

Lots of anime things becomes game gospel coughs Meowth

[somber galleon]

One of the voices is going to a con a friend of mine is hosting

[lyric stratus]

What you mean with Meowth now?

[eager flower]

oh yeah, I forgot about the talking Meowth in every Pokémon game

[slate wedge]

The standing Meowth

[coarse drift]

There was only 1 Eevee in the first gen games, on rooftop as a gift, same as how there was only 1 Togepi you could get in gen 2

[lyric stratus]

okay f this im out I loose brain cells with that

[somber galleon]

Technically they all stand

[burnt vessel]

Not in gen one they didn’t

[slate wedge]

No I mean in lore
Just because you can get Ho-Oh to be gold doesn’t mean it’s not the rainbow pokemon

[eager flower]

I mean, it is true that Meowth was portrayed as usually standing on all four and Rocket Meowth had to learn to stand on two legs in anime... but that is anime, it's not canon to the games. Meowth in every early art was already on two legs, or sitting on hind legs

[coarse drift]

The Meowth in previous generations was on all 4 legs, but after the anime the newer gen sprites updated to bipedal, is what I'm guessing that you're referring to?

[eager flower]

That is sitting

[coarse drift]

I feel like Togepi had the Lapras effect in later gens, where it became so popular to breed it's now common

[eager flower]

this art is actually older

[robust wren]

It was a bit of both in the earliest games

[sinful dagger]

remember when ash's pikachu took out blaine's rhydon by using thunder on its horn? Because "It's like a lightning rod! It's the weakpoint!"

[visual fable]

That wasn't actually canon it was just assumed

There are several meowth sprites in G1 and they are all standing up

[coarse drift]

The anime came out between gen 1 and 2, so I feel the sprite changed with the anime release

[somber galleon]

Yeah ash was incredibly stupid in the anime but did get better over time

[eager flower]

You know why Meowth is often portrayed sitting like that? Because it's based on maneki neko, those beckoning cat statues. And those often sit on their hind legs like that

[slate wedge]

Backsprite is also sitting until later

[visual fable]

Anyway forget this I have better things to do

You should know that many people here were actually around for gen 1 and it is silly to argue this

[burnt vessel]

That is also sitting

[slate wedge]

Pokemon yellow is standing up which, speaking of anime becomes game gospel :)

[coarse drift]

Pokemon Yellow was a GBC game based off of the anime, and the walking sprites changed

[slate wedge]

Same with Persian

[vagrant pelican]

Meowth has always had the ability to be bothered bipedal and quadrupedal, it was only the team rocket meowth that taught itself to speak in order to impress a female meowth it liked but she still wasn't interested and then he joined team rocket. But that is anime only, there is no talking meowth in game

[somber galleon]

Hell it took snorlax 26 years to stand up

[burnt vessel]

I love it

[robust wren]

Red/Blue sprite is clearly on 3 legs and using a forelimb to clean itself but other than that sure

Or doing the Maneki Neko gesture

[slate wedge]

Red critter

Orange dog

[burnt vessel]

That is orange

[coarse drift]

In the anime and games it started with ALL wild Meowth walking on all 4s when introduced, and the Rocket Meowth was the only bipedal

Then the games switched the sprites to match the bipedal stature, starting at Yellow

[sinful dagger]

I get this for meowth's body shape when I look it up

not that it matters

[vagrant pelican]

I said they had the ability to do so not that they all did do it

[slate wedge]

We actually have the overworld sprites for Meowth too, don’t we?

It’s also on all fours iirc

[coarse drift]

Yes, but the anime had the major change of showing how they first interacted as a wild group

[eager flower]

Anyway, you know those very old cards with very old Sugimori art on them? The one that are older than anime and actually show some earlier designs that were changed later in the anime?

[visual fable]

Gen 1 didn't really have overworld sprites. I don't remember there being a unique one for meowth

[slate wedge]

Meowth is clearly reaching here. By this idea Persian is a biped

[slate wedge]

I thought there was a Meowth somewhere in the game you could interact with

Clefairy I know has their own and so does Pikachu

[coarse drift]

The over world sprites for Gen 1 are generic monsters

[visual fable]

I think it just used the generic monster sprite yeah

Yellow added one I think

[slate wedge]

Yeah I mean specifically the one Meowth uses is a quad Sprite iirc

[visual fable]

But again yellow is anime based

[slate wedge]

Yups

Gen 2 also depicts Meowth as a quad sprite but has its in battle sprite bipedal

Oh I know where Meowth was, isn’t it in the pokefanclub building before surge?

[eager flower]

I mean, those menu sprites were ultra generic and not very useful for this sort of thing. Like, pretty sure Meowth, no matter what we all think, is not a cow

[coarse drift]

Meowth where???

[slate wedge]

4th one down

[visual fable]

That's eevee

[slate wedge]

It uses it for Meowth

[coarse drift]

That's the Eevee on the table

[eager flower]

Eh, it can be any number of furry mammalian Pokémon, it's also probably Growlithe

[slate wedge]

Eevee on the table is a pokeball item

[coarse drift]

Yeah, but the sprite in menu is also that

[eager flower]

besides, pretty sure the yellow(-ish) ones are from gen 2. And only the grey ones are from gen 1

[slate wedge]

I’m actually curious to look what sprite Meowth uses before you grab an Eevee

[coarse drift]

Nope, Yellow had the red sprites too

[visual fable]

What? That wouldn't make any difference

[slate wedge]

Also there’s some sprites missing there

[slate wedge]

Primarily because I’m not arguing or debating lol

[eager flower]

yeah, forgot about that pesky Sudowoodo and Unown in Gen 1...

[slate wedge]

I’m having a discussion about this

[visual fable]

I don't remember but I think growlithe used the monster one

[slate wedge]

Actually, found the list online

[visual fable]

That said I don't recall having one in gen 2 only gen 1

[slate wedge]

Eevee uses the cow sprite apparently

[visual fable]

It did in gen 1 yes

[eager flower]

like half of gen 1 uses that cow sprite iirc

[visual fable]

Like half the mons used that one

[slate wedge]

Meowth and Persian use the Dino sprite

[slate wedge]

Actually no

They used the Dino one

[visual fable]

Amusingly I never thought of that sprite as a cow

I thought it was some kinda deer or something

As a kid

[eager flower]

right, but anyway, if anything, that would proove our point, since Meowth uses the Dino one, that means it's bipedal :P not that it's a strong point

[slate wedge]

Also note

That Pokemon in Gen 1 had contradicting sprites

[visual fable]

I really like how ZA brought back the lil monster sprite and it more clearly has wings

[slate wedge]

coughs Snorlax

[vagrant pelican]

Actually yes because I'm pretty sure they used the Dino type looking sprite for all bipedal Pokémon that didn't have custom ones

[slate wedge]

Meowth did use the cat sprite later

[sinful dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-snap-meowth-flexing-gif-16453910326798139059

[coarse drift]

Hey! He's too wide to fit the party screen! Don't shame him!! xD

[slate wedge]

Point and laugh at him

Fatty fat

Fat

[visual fable]

I mean gen 1 is also held together with duct tape that easily falls apart

[slate wedge]

Surprised it could hold more sprites then it can handle

[coarse drift]

BUT HE'S THE BEST CUDDLE BUDDY!
No beds required if the tummy is big enough to support you!

[compact hare]

i dont like the bird but this is magnificent

[visual fable]

Gonna drop a sick album

[slate wedge]

More birds

[visual fable]

A lot of older games reuse tiles for different things

[eager flower]

crazy that by next gen, we might be able to get a full team of bird starters

[slate wedge]

Nah I was making a MissingNo. Joke

[compact hare]

i mean there is hisuian decidueye too

[coarse drift]

You can't tell me this doesn't look comfy

[slate wedge]

Didn’t say it wasn’t

Just a fatty fat

https://tenor.com/view/wheatley-portal-2-fatty-adopted-fatty-fattyfatty-no-parents-gif-5774065121664369001

Make this the next Cubone x Snorlax gag it would be so funny

Speaking of Snorlax

To wrap this back around

In SEA there is Sunbears

Which is what Snorlax is based mostly on iirc

[mystic fern]

Can't wait for sound type rotom and tangrowth definitely real

[eager flower]

I mean, I doubt those new "forms" in Pokopia will ever have official types, they are characters, not official Pokémon in main line.

[coarse drift]

Megaphone Rotom? I'd LOVE a sequel to the gen 6 Chatter shenanigans xDD

[eager flower]

That being said, that new Rotom would clearly be Ghost/Normal

[slate wedge]

Ghost/Fairy Rottom would go hard

[mystic fern]

Ima be real if they make rotom stereo real id be terrified of ghost steel rotom

[visual fable]

Eh I don't think he's really based on anything. Wasn't the design just something one of the devs came up with cos he looked like Snorlax

But with glasses

[slate wedge]

I think it’s a given that Vileplum will show up because Corpse Flower but also the entire Budew line didn’t show up in Scar/Viol

[eager flower]

I mean, Snorlax clearly is a hibernating bear. I wouldn't pin point it to any species

[slate wedge]

Yeah that too but primarily on bears and bear motif in it

Considering it’s Asia the more common example would be the Sunbear

[coarse drift]

Roserade regional, maybe?

[visual fable]

Yeah it would be nice to have because of the rafflesia. But we have had mons not show up in regions where it would be obvious

[mystic fern]

Older Pokémon were based on concepts instead of specifics iirc

[slate wedge]

Might be why it knows Solar Beam

For Snorlax

[slate wedge]

I hope

[eager flower]

No, just that in Gen 1 normal types learned freaking everything

[visual fable]

Yeah gen 1 mons are more clearly monsters than based on a single particular animal

Good ol fissure

[slate wedge]

Tbf, Hyper Fang was mostly associated with Raticate

And Horn Attack was Tauros (and/or Rhyhorn, mostly Rhyhorn, sorry.)

No not Horn Attack oops I take it back, that was a PMD bug

[visual fable]

Signature moves back then are interesting because there were so few Pokemon that it's difficult to say if anything was a signature move until later

[supple fern]

In before the dog stands

[coarse drift]

Technically it's Psychic that learns everything in gen 1 Mew joke

[eager flower]

Yeah, but in general, normal types had insanely wide movepools in gen 1, like, all the beams and stuff. Why can Raticate learn Thunderbolt or Ice Beam?

[coarse drift]

Though Sketch also does the trick

[slate wedge]

Raticate is hard boiled

[vocal charm]

It’s a panda, right?

[slate wedge]

Kinda slothish, maybe it’s both

Both the Panda and Sun Bear are known to be tame. The Sun Bear is one of the most tamest bears out there.

That isn’t to say to poke it or anything

Just that, on a scale of Grizzly to Sunny it’s on the lowest scale

Sleeps a lot too

[coarse drift]

They didn't even have a special/physical difference back then, so it was just an attack
Though, they may have tried to make it like another Pikachu type pokemon with Raticate, as just an animal with elements that differs by being a normal type instead of a specific?

[slate wedge]

But no anyways the reason for Normal to have extra stuff is because it’s essentially the “light that hits the prism”

[eager flower]

ok, physical special existed since gen 1, there was attack and defense and one stat controlling special attack and special defense

[slate wedge]

It accounts for everything under the rainbow, that’s why it’s Normal.

[eager flower]

gen 2 decoupled special attack and special defense, gen 4 did the physical/special split, separating them from types

[coarse drift]

No it didn't, it was added in gen 4

[slate wedge]

Nothing in here about Tri-Attack :(

[eager flower]

gen 4 separated types from physical/special. Before then, all electric type attacks were special (even Thunder Punch) and all Dark type attacks were special (even Bite...) etc
but physical and special were a thing since gen 1

[slate wedge]

I wonder if we might get something other than Snorlax tho

Sunbear pokemon sounds funny. Maybe even a regional variant.

Solar Beam competition

[eager flower]

Alomomola (sunfish) looks on

[robust wren]

That's not Comfey, it's Snorlax

[slate wedge]

We could maybe consider invasive species too in Wind and Wave as a concept. I’d like to see that.

[coarse drift]

You're right, I apologize
I forgot that it was at the very bottom of the stat page Dx (used to speed being at the bottom of the stat block)

[coarse drift]

Places Comfey on Snorlax like a crown Now it's both

[eager flower]

places Comfey on Snorlax's stomach
that Comfey sure does look comfy

[coarse drift]

The comfiest Comfey on best friend bed

I saw a huge Snorlax bed 10 years ago in HS, and no matter what all I can see now when I look at him is BED

[eager flower]

That looks AI as hell, but you said you saw it 10 years ago so I dunno :D

[coarse drift]

It was similar, not glowy but basically like that

[eager flower]

I know they also sold like huge jumbo Snorlax plushes and that would be amazingly snuggly tbf

[coarse drift]

Yeah! They were everywhere on the web and I was hoping to get one when the price went down, though it never did

[little dove]

Gecqua supremacy 💅

[eager flower]

man I should really finally get around to drawing all the new Megas from ZA for my Pokémon project so that I am ready for gen X... Pokémon will never stop adding more Pokémon :D

[coarse drift]

The Poke-world groooows

I wonder how many pokemon we'll see this gen?

[eager flower]

I mean, gen 9 was over 100 finally again? Cca 100 again would be fine, hope it's more than in XY at least.

Then again, quality over quantity

[coarse drift]

It would be fun if we got EVERY pokemon available, and we could complete the whole dex if they just added a few more, though

[eager flower]

I don't think that will ever happen in any Pokémon game. We can dream but probably not.

And tbh can you imagine trying to squeeze cca 1100 Pokémon into one region?

[coarse drift]

Fair v.v
Maybe they bring in another new/old mechanic?
We've never really seen Delta species outside of the TCG

[eager flower]

I always saw Regional forms as kind of Delta species

[coarse drift]

There's been several lines that they gave Deltas to in the TCG, but there's never been any other mention of regionals/other forms
There's a Dark Charizard line I remember well, and Electric Salamance I think?

Fire Salamance, my bad

[normal zodiac]

This is the only bipedal final evo for the fire starter I'll accept

[eager flower]

Damn, it's 2 am where I am at. I should go to sleep. :D

[coarse drift]

Oh wow! Okay, goodnight, and sorry if I kept you up

[eager flower]

nah, more like this entire convo XD and hype of the new games

[coarse drift]

Have a good sleep, and day tomorrow

[coarse drift]

New Pokemon drops, and the dopamine hits the neurons to go hyper speed xD

[plucky escarp]

I posted this in staff earlier, 100% agree

[robust wren]

I'm already seeing people comparing the hats that the Wave protags get to the Walmart cap

[amber monolith]

the fire starter should stay on all fours

@burnt vessel explain please

[burnt vessel]

THE ONLY QUADROPED FIRE THIRD STAGE IS SKELEDIRGE

WE NEED MORE

[amber monolith]

okay, but your reaction says “no”

[burnt vessel]

exactly

we need more quadrupeds

[amber monolith]

your “no” reaction says that the fire starter shouldn’t stay on all fours

because I’m saying it should stay on all fours

and you’re saying no

you said no :V

[grim trench]

There is a correct answer

[amber monolith]

someone doesn’t want it to be on all fours

[unborn cave]

the starters are all kinda boring but hopefully they havekool evos

[cunning sierra]

I need Pombon to evolve into a derpy Cerberus / the Ghidorah meme

[unborn cave]

yes

that would be beautiful

[robust wren]

Honestly we haven't had a new fire fighting starter in over a decade. I feel like the joke doesn't work anymore

[ionic pilot]

almost certainly been posted by now but eh, i am changing how i play the game now. for over a decade ive played exclusively fire starters, this time im going back to my roots, water gecko W

[normal zodiac]

Ok but consider

[normal zodiac]

A fire steel starter would be dope tho

[visual fable]

Flint and steel

[normal zodiac]

Honestly I just want more fire steel types because heatran is getting lonely

[ionic pilot]

i feel we also need water/fire types aswell, poor volcanion

[normal zodiac]

Or a non paradox ground fighting type

I do have a question though what's a pokemon you would love to see make it in the game

https://tenor.com/view/joltik-pokemon-electric-bug-insect-gif-3716059523806306907

Mines joltik

[ionic pilot]

LOL

not wind and waves, but still an upcoming pokemon game, new rotom form dropped

[hazy knot]

John Nintendo gave me early access to Pokemon wind and waves and they actually removed evolution

[normal zodiac]

I'm really hoping the water type evolves into something like a sailfin dragon or something like that

[normal zodiac]

Damn

[visual fable]

What

[ionic pilot]

pokemon pokopia really dropping new pokemon forms for a side game

[normal zodiac]

Just give us a sound type at this point

[ionic pilot]

we got iron deficiancy pikachu, mossy snorlax, and dj rotom

[robust wren]

Pokopia is already basically Planet of the Apes: Ditto edition

[ionic pilot]

LMAO L scam

[robust wren]

<@&306953740651462656>

[ionic pilot]

combined with minecraft and animal crossing i think it was?

[visual fable]

It's kinda like dragon quest builders I thought

[burnt vessel]

wait
what if pombon's glowy red chest thing becomes like an oven

and its like a chef

[unborn kelp]

Hold on, you're cooking (pun not intended)

I would love to see it happen

[burnt vessel]

https://www.instagram.com/p/C4R9OzcJuFi/ similar to this emboar redesign by winnietaz_fakemon

winnietaz_fakemon

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Name: Emboar

Type: Fire/Steel

The Oven Pokemon

Evolution: Tepig --> Pignite --> Emboar

Ability: Blaze/Hidden Ability: Flame Body

Its oven-like body houses extreme heat. The yellow parts on its belly have much thinner skin making it easy for the heat to escape, which it uses to cook its food. Many chefs use this Pokemon to help, as It's a ...

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[burnt vessel]

he is the biggest bird

[unborn kelp]

da bird

[burnt vessel]

yeah this is my final idea for it

[unborn kelp]

I wonder if the lizard becomes a komodo lizard design

Water poison

[normal zodiac]

Ye

[unborn kelp]

Now that I look at it, Pombon is just a mini Zacian

Mini zamazenta* sorry

It has shield mane

[nova lintel]

POMeranian BOMb sniffing dog

[unborn kelp]

[burnt vessel]

well its pomBON not pomBOM

[ionic pilot]

im sorry, i cant unsee it 😭

[burnt vessel]

thats the point

[ionic pilot]

fair

kinda curious about the games legendaries ngl

these guys better make an appearance ingame

[burnt vessel]

i originally hadnt thought much of it but like that glows

[nova lintel]

yeah still we got a Bakugo pokemon

[burnt vessel]

likely will since theyre named

[burnt vessel]

it could become fire/steel if this happens i guess

[burnt vessel]

WAIT AND THE HAIR TUFT BECOMES A CHEF'S HAT???

[unborn kelp]

Yes that's the reference

[ionic pilot]

makes sense

[burnt vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-emoji-shocked-computer-meme-wow-surprised-meme-emoji-gif-1933528608271643663

THIS MIGHT ACTUALLY HAPPEN GUYS

[unborn kelp]

[burnt vessel]

if only a fakemon artist could draw it... Sigh..

[unborn kelp]

Be the change the world needs

[ionic pilot]

my image was in response to that same image-

[calm dock]

Ah, I didnt scrolled up

[ionic pilot]

lol its all g, it happens

back to building an arcade machine out of lego i go

(not full scale, im not that rich)

infact im almost broke so 😔

[robust wren]

So aside from types, what kind of statlines do we see the starters ending up with? I'm imagining Browt becoming a bulky phys attacker if the Kakapo theory is true, Pombon becoming a bulky special attacker, and Gecqua becoming a fast attacker of some variety

[visual fable]

If he's a chicken I see Browt being a glass cannon/fast attacker

[vast fossil]

Well we just had that set up with the last starters

But I cant see the animals they chose be anything but that set up

[visual fable]

Gecqua should be phys spec just for something interesting

Maybe a status based thing

So then Pombon can be bulk

[amber monolith]

they should have revealed more Pokemon

[visual fable]

Do we usually get the evos in a couple months

Or is this it for this year

[clever quest]

This makes me think that Gecqua might evolve into Pokémon with a prince or princess sort of inspiration

[amber monolith]

Like, it’s Pokemon day

And we only got 3 reveals?

[grim trench]

https://x.com/hexedwithluck/status/2027509010476446157?s=46

Speculation post

rae ♡ (mostly on 🦋!) (@hexedwithluck)

quick SEA mythology crash course and speculation on the new starters by an Indonesian! (thread below)

X · Feb 27, 2026, 10:19 PM

[clever quest]

Apparently, Browt is the Bean Chick Pokémon

Will it become a bean sprout when it evolves?

[visual fable]

Yeah I was thinking barong too even though it's a lion

[shrewd hearth]

We got angry birds Nintendogs and littlest pet Shop starters

[visual fable]

Coffee bean

[shrewd hearth]

Hi hol

[clever quest]

Bulbapedia speculates it's a pun off of "chickpea"

[shrewd hearth]

Hi three

[clever quest]

Hi Ernesto

[shrewd hearth]

Hi three

[amber monolith]

Hi Psycho | Tokusatsu Man

[unborn kelp]

I was hoping for water poison ngl

[velvet forum]

it will be water poison

it makes the most sense if it turns into a komodo dragon

[grim trench]

Pokemon Wiwa

Has a nice ring to it

[velvet forum]

why the hell would a dog turn into a lion

[clever quest]

To be a lion-dog?

[velvet forum]

whoever made that was off their rocker

[grim trench]

Don't the chinese have those lion dogs?

Also a lot of things are weird with Pokemon so who knows

[amber monolith]

Is this Pokemon or Digimon?

[burnt vessel]

Ok hear me out
Pombon’s red glowy chest bit will become an oven and the hair tuft will become a chef hat

[amber monolith]

I’m not gonna hear you out, because I can’t hear text

[burnt vessel]

Read me out then

[robust wren]

I highly doubt we're ever getting a starter that's Dragon type without being Mega Evolved
Komodo Dragons would be an amazing Poison type tho

[unborn kelp]

Not to be confused with wuwa

[little canopy]

I got the ref

https://tenor.com/view/wuthering-waves-changli-鳴潮-長離-你這個-gif-3480028714002838852

[limber owl]

https://x.com/mochio_bonio/status/2027543550439920100

MochiBoni 🦈⚔️ ( Comms OPEN Valentine Discount ) (@mochio_bon...

sorry rowlet, you just don't fit the cute baby bird mold
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#PokemonWindsWaves #torchic #piplup #rowlet #browt

X · Feb 28, 2026, 12:37 AM

[clever quest]

Pokémon: Dog becomes bigger dog becomes lion
Digimon: Dog becomes angel becomes robot

[limber owl]

https://x.com/i/status/2027454351367700501

Helio✨(COMMISSIONS OPEN) (@_Helio_Art)

Pombon
#PokemonWindsWaves

X · Feb 27, 2026, 6:42 PM

[clever quest]

I would but it's drawn too funny

[tepid flame]

Yeah this has been the speculation of most of us Indonesians lol

It's like so much the obvious route

That the subversions could be very well true

[limber owl]

https://x.com/i/status/2027488254292070431

Dragonith | Game Shop Manager VTuber (@EXDragonith)

Pombon, the goodest of boys. #Gen10

X · Feb 27, 2026, 8:57 PM

[tepid flame]

Noooooooooooooooooooooo

[unborn kelp]

Watch as the dog goes bipedal

I'm surefire betting the lizard is just gonna be a komodo dragon of some sorts

Donno about the dog or the owl

[cunning sierra]

It's just Buffpup then lol

Or just a weird bipedal dog thing that may or may not be a werewolf

[unborn kelp]

Like garudas fine but I always attribute Garuda with fire instead of grass,

[cunning sierra]

I still stand by Browt's final evo being a peacock, Pombon being a cerberus and maybe we'll get some kind of Komodo Dragon for Gecqua?

[unborn kelp]

Oooo browt becoming a peacock would be cool yeaaa

Makes more sense

[cunning sierra]

I need to try and draw them out eventually. The cerberus would just be the Ghidorah meme lol

[limber owl]

https://x.com/i/status/2027443213058126327

Sunsnak🐲 (@Sunsnak_Sn)

Winds,Waves,....

X · Feb 27, 2026, 5:58 PM

[unborn kelp]

I wonder if we get this thing for our resident annoying bat encounter

[cunning sierra]

Ah yes, the Filipino Giant Bat

[unborn kelp]

Yeeee

[cunning sierra]

Wonder if they'd make its evolution Manananggal somehow?

If we're considering Filipino mythology of course

[limber owl]

You want to chop it in half?

[cunning sierra]

Not exactly

[limber owl]

You want to give it a long tongue?

[unborn kelp]

Mmmm too graphic I think

[cunning sierra]

They can censor it. Trust me

[limber owl]

Female only?

[unborn kelp]

It's a kids game the ghost types need to be family friendly

[robust wren]

Anyone got any guesses as to what the big themes of each game would be, IE Diamond being time, Violet being the future, etc.? Cause there's no way it's literally just the wind and the waves. All I can think of is Winds being the winds of change or freedom

[cunning sierra]

This artist made a Manananggal Pokémon work
https://youtu.be/J95tFipgK1I?si=JcE7OxartsF-OBPt

Heck, in Pokémon Pisces there's one and it's not graphic

[unborn kelp]

Each island has a team and they got beef with each other and the nature legendaries got pissed about it

[robust wren]

Have you seen some of the Youkai that some Pokémon are based off of? Some of them get kinda graphic

[unborn kelp]

Basically a retelling of rose

[cunning sierra]

But to continue with the Filipino side of things, I did drop an interesting insight about the possibile Legendaries

[unborn kelp]

No like mannangal is like body cut off

[cunning sierra]

Going all the way back here

[unborn kelp]

I wouldn't think that would go well

[cunning sierra]

And again, they can just make it the top half like in the video I sent or get creative to replace the gore with something else

[robust wren]

Just give it a levitating torso like Tasque Manager. NBD.

[unborn kelp]

Oooo

[limber owl]

https://x.com/i/status/2027426590272229723

実梨🍒miri (@cherryjellymm)

ポムケン、嬉しい時のわんちゃんの表情しててかわいいです……また可愛いワンコポケモンが増えてしまった

X · Feb 27, 2026, 4:52 PM

[jade ocean]

I did this for the ZA Megas so I guess I'll make polls for these starters too

[cunning sierra]

OR a Totem Pole styled Pokémon where its two Pokémon that seperate

[unborn kelp]

Do you think we get like small legendaries based on SEA's animal mascots? Like tiger, garuda, merlion, etc

[robust wren]

A merlion could be so cool

[unborn kelp]

Yeee

[jade ocean]

Merlion would be peak if it actually happened tbh

[robust wren]

Merlion for Waves, Garuda for Winds. Seems like a logical direction

[unborn kelp]

Like small legendary quartet all over again

Like Tapus and Ruins, they should all share a same type

[jade ocean]

Ngl if this was the case that'd be hype because the Tapus and Ruins were actually just top tier Legendaries

[unborn kelp]

Wait hold on

[jade ocean]

So clearly Gamefreak is cooking with these quartets

[robust wren]

Anything but more Dragon and Psychic legends

[unborn kelp]

Would fighting be good?

[tepid flame]

It's good but please no

Please just give them some other dual type

I'll only accept Fire/Fairy but I've had enough of Dark and Fighting and Fairy and Psychic as the dual typing

[robust wren]

Rock could be a fun type to make a set of legends around. Could give them a statue theming

Also we need more good Rock types

[tepid flame]

Rock/random dual type as the cycle would be awesome

And maybe they all share the same ability or smth

[unborn kelp]

We already have fairy for the tapus

What would the signature abilities be hmm

[burnt vessel]

Ponbon red glowy chest bit will become oven and hair tuft will become chef hat trust

[coarse drift]

Can you imagine a quad of ghost legendaries, though?
Or a strange type like bug that would make the type more offensive in battle?

Though looking at the unused type combos, there's 4 unused Normal type combos
Normal type mini legends resembling Arceus?

Now I can just imagine a bunch of little Arceus guys running around a bigger one for a Arceus/Falinks fusion

[burnt vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/pombon-pokemon-pokemon-winds-and-waves-starter-pokemon-pokémon-gif-11114532844050334286

https://x.com/Sugahri/status/2027483464988070023

Sugar🍓 (@Sugahri)

LittlestPetShop Gecqua my beloved #PokemonWindsWaves

X · Feb 27, 2026, 8:38 PM

[forest egret]

https://x.com/LazyVraptor/status/2027406222404792382

LazyVRaptor (@LazyVraptor)

I LOVE GECQUA
THEIR HUGE EYES FILL ME WITH ALL THE JOY

#Gecqua #pokemon #PokemonWindsWaves

X · Feb 27, 2026, 3:31 PM

[supple jewel]

Dog the new generation looks 🍑

[forest egret]

Peachy

[supple jewel]

Yes

It fills me with joy

[forest egret]

The water and stuff we saw looked pretty good, I'm hoping the environments in general look ok in this game. That was probably SV's biggest failing art-wise

[burnt vessel]

https://x.com/stupjam/status/2027487730704556496

stupjam 🖌️COMMS OPEN🖌️ (@stupjam)

pombon can't be contained

X · Feb 27, 2026, 8:55 PM

[supple jewel]

Didn't see a 2d building

But the thing that is gonna sell this game is pombon

People have been wanting a dog starter for ages

[burnt vessel]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DVRKTj0jExb/

sugahriii

Choose your Pombon wisely

#pokémon #pombon #pokemonwindswaves #pokemon

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[forest egret]

I do wish we didn't happen to get the dog starter right after the generation that gave us a bunch of dogs, but I agree it's good that we finally got one

[supple jewel]

And it's a pomeranian none the less

[flint sequoia]

Every generation has a dog

[forest egret]

SV had a few dogs

[flint sequoia]

If I had a nickel for every 2 stage dog line in SV, Id have 3 nickels

[forest egret]

Dogy

[supple jewel]

Wow

Thats a few nickels right therw

Few more generations and you might have a dollar

[burnt vessel]

(from https://authoratmidnight.tumblr.com/)

[flint sequoia]

You got the Koraidon waller, the one important to the story and the one thats too strong for competitive

[forest egret]

The 2D art sold me a little more on the bird and the dog. I think they're not too great in their 3D models tbh, but the sugimori-style art shows the idealized design and that's enough for me

[flint sequoia]

2D Browt looks so much better, 3d looks like a pal

[forest egret]

The bird still kinda looks like something you find at level 3 in the first route though

[burnt vessel]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DVRavmGEW5_/

mamobot

Puppy pile 🔥🐾

I love pombon so much!!! I got so inspired and wanted to draw a new puppy pile to go with our foxes! This one with the fire doggies :D! I couldn’t decide so I did both 😂

I’m so excited for winds and waves🥹 ! I can’t decide on which starter I will choose but it’s a close call between pombon and Gecqua! Who ar...

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[forest egret]

I like his expression but the rest of him's a little plain

[flint sequoia]

At the end of the day, I care a LOT more about the final evos. Youre not gonna use the baby starters for much of the game

...but youll see them in marketing for all of eternity

[forest egret]

I agree, the final evolution is what will truly sell me on my favourite

[jade ocean]

Same here

[forest egret]

SwSh had Sobble and he was my favourite of the 3 but then he evolved into Intelleon and it 180'd completely

Poor sobble, I'd cry too

[burnt vessel]

https://store.line.me/stickershop/product/16328217/en pombon

[flint sequoia]

My opinion on Inteleon does a 180 every other week, idk why my brain cant decide

Raboot is the best galar starter ngl

[forest egret]

I've never really thought about it before but I think I like all 3 galar starter's middle evos more than their finals

https://x.com/Kurisuu101/status/2027582572856021237

Kurisupī 🇵🇭 (@Kurisuu101)

a new pokemon just dropped

X · Feb 28, 2026, 3:12 AM

[supple jewel]

Browt cannot be a real pokemon

[forest egret]

The name is also unpleasant but it kinda loops back around for me

[supple jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-gif-1073017265361415453

[jade ocean]

Holy shit 22 fucking votes

[supple jewel]

On what

[jade ocean]

The polls I made for the starters

[forest egret]

"Browt" is such an openly ugly word it's kinda funny

[jade ocean]

Except Browt

Who has 23 for some reason

[forest egret]

I wonder what Browt is supposed to be, like what type of bird is he

[jade ocean]

I think the polls I made for the Megas got around like 15 give or take?

I guess it's because the hype is pretty recent though

[burnt vessel]

someone hated/loved browt so much they had to do it

[forest egret]

The other 2 are a Gecko and a Pomeranian that's obvious right from looking, but Browt could be anything. My friend said he might be an eagle and I kinda see it

[jade ocean]

Browt is a bird

[forest egret]

He is

[jade ocean]

What kind of bird? Who tf knows

[supple jewel]

He an angry bird

[forest egret]

His classification calls him "Bean Chick" which is more telling on what plant he is than what bird

Bean makes sense, his eyebrows are the same shape as a bean sprout

[jade ocean]

Just checked, it was a hater

And there's also just 1 guy who voted 1 on all the starters lol

[supple jewel]

Pretty sure browt is also a grass type

From its design elements

[forest egret]

We'll never know

[burnt vessel]

"pretty sure" 💔

[forest egret]

He may or may not be a grass type

[jade ocean]

Are you sure?

[forest egret]

Sources haven't come back to me on this yet

[supple jewel]

I don't really know now actually

He might be the water type

[forest egret]

Did we see if they had secondary types yet or is that still yet to be shown

I get the impression he might not be a flying type from the start since he looks relatively flightless but I guess we'll see

Doduo's a flying type so what do I know

[burnt vessel]

its confirmed they dont

[supple jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/game-hand-play-player-playing-gif-2198967962529124985

Browt

[forest egret]

that makes sense, they do all look monotype

I hope they don't keep that going forward though

[burnt vessel]

pombon glowy red chest bit will become an oven and the hair tuft will become a chef hat. trust

[supple jewel]

Nooo

Keep it a massive dog

Just turn it into a ball of hair

[burnt vessel]

why not both

fluffy oven dog

[supple jewel]

Oooo

Actually that could cook

[burnt vessel]

thats what i was thinking when i first said that

[burnt vessel]

What

[supple jewel]

Thats gonna be shiny pombon

[forest egret]

Evil Pombon

I wonder what this game's gimmick is gonna be

[supple jewel]

Water

[forest egret]

Too Muc h

[flint sequoia]

Do you think we're getting any new megas?

[supple jewel]

Prob not

[jade ocean]

I doubt it

[burnt vessel]

and wind!!!!!!

[forest egret]

I wonder if they'll have the existing megas in

[flint sequoia]

It feels weird to stop having them after ZA + champions

[forest egret]

Surely they're not just gonna let them all die in ZA atleast give them one other game

Like surely they'll just do the Sun and Moon thing and just have them in there even though the game itself doesn't add any new ones

[burnt vessel]

someone: "what would the new generation of pokemon games be named if you replaced the first letter?"
me:

[flint sequoia]

It would be cool to have a mega centiskorch thats an adapted Gmax

[supple jewel]

U

[forest egret]

Pombon will evolve into Wildmutt

[flint sequoia]

Lets see, which between the gecko and the dog will stand up

Theres never been 2 quadruped starters

[jade ocean]

Both frfr

[burnt vessel]

blastoise and charizard (assuming you bean biped)

[flint sequoia]

Neither of those are quadrupeds

[jade ocean]

Those are bipedal

[forest egret]

I can't imagine the lizard's gonna stay on all 4s

[flint sequoia]

Its basically half standing up in the official art

[forest egret]

That's never been a problem for me as much as other people. I think people over react towards bipedal final evo starters

[burnt vessel]

am i the only one who genuinely cant see pombon becoming biped?

[forest egret]

It just depends on what they do with it

[flint sequoia]

Id say the same with litten tbh

[burnt vessel]

its skinny enough that i see it

[forest egret]

Like idk, if he evolved and looked like Okidogi I think I'd be a little upset

[jade ocean]

I don't really care all that much about if a starter is quadrapedal or bipedal

[flint sequoia]

Theres actually been a couple to become quadrupedal from bipedal, Oshawott, Fuecoco

[forest egret]

They cut servine's feet off when he evolves

[flint sequoia]

Snivy didnt remain bipedal

[forest egret]

I know he still has hands but they might as well not exist because there's no way they're doing anything

[flint sequoia]

Snivy lost its legs as a sacrifice to be the only gen5 starter to not be competitively garbage

[burnt vessel]

ok is swampert biped or quadruped