#pokemon-winds-waves
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Well if we don't count Primarina as anthro that's one less anthro Pokémon design I like and therefore more proof in my mind that anthro designs are oversaturated so they should shake things up a bit, so there's that
Right forgot he existed 
people have crows and octopi as pets
Cydaquil
and the lil water droplet 🥹🥹🥹
You shouldn't have crows as pets
slightly darker green
Yellow
Pink
that was the response i got, yeah
Fire-Water-Grass has intuitive sense that Fighting-Flying-Rock doesn't
I specifically focused on the grass/Water category
Actually those are usually rescues
I hope gecqua goes green
Who cant be released

wonder what the gimmick is
Oh i didn't notice the symbol
Looks like the Omega symbol
With how the games and anime treat pokemon they very much seem on par with pets who I would say also are companions
i don't recognize the symbol
I've seen people compare to cassette beasts but I think it's a stretch
They don't even look close to similar
they do
This is all I see looking at Gecqua
plot twist: the current three are red herrings. Gen 10's new starters are Water/Bug, Fire/Bug, and Grass/Bug 
all Bug region
Pokemon fans are the best haters for Pokemon
They are the same pylogy of animals. Thats it
Gecqua will be water poison I KNOW IT
pombon
you might need an eye appointment
No this is gecqua get it right
I think thats the right word?
Pov they add a new type
Lps! I loved those as a kid
add an aura type
Only cosmog has it
phylum?
Please don't make Sound type a thing
If we ever get a new type its probably gonna be a sound type or something
Cosmic type
Yes! That word
Yeah thats what happens when your fanbase is mostly either sweaty min max old men/ladies or the younger side of Genz 
No cosmog

They’ve already made sound a sub-category so I don’t think they can
Genderfluid type
they just make one tweak and it's that Bug resists Fairy and does neutral damage to Fairy
noivern, my favorite sound type?
The type that was promised 3000 years ago
Would love if they added 3 new types and each of the starters was one of the new types.
I want frostbite to work as a special type burn
What it di
It’s still crazy to me they didn’t let bug resist fairy. It doesn’t even shift the power balance of the types it just gives bug SOMETHING
Do
I saw rotom stereo and thought for a second we were finally getting sound type
Rn it just does damage at the end of the turn
I’ve played too many mods cause that’s how I thought it worked
I dont see where is the logic of fairies being weak to bug
I say Grass should get the Fairy resistance
ngl I can see it being a hint IF a new type comes
Bug needs a buff. Grass does not
Fairies don’t have to be weak to bug but bugs could resist fairies. And it’s more so on the Irish-origination of fairies being more natural household objects not just pixies as well that can be infested
gecqua use revolver!
I really want Stereo rotom to be useable in game
Cause Fairy types are all about the powers of nature, hence why steel and Poison are super effective against them. And what does Grass type represent if not nature?
what type would t be ?
They needa make a rotom for every type
def learns watergun
I want pokepia but I need to save up for a new laptop
i love rotom
i don't see the logic of Dragons being weak to Ice, either 
The rotom?
Either normal or if sound is real sound
Cold blooded creature as they are a reptilian species 
oh ok
what if they didn't make mega flygon cus they were making sound type a thing and he's going to get changed to dragon/sound
The rotom isnt in gen 10 tho
Dragons are usually lizards. Lizards aren't good with cold
Reptile usually so cold blooded?
Cold blooded
gecqua is 1000000000000% gonna be water poison
The Gen 10 starters
Depends if they are related to Dinosaurs
The mega flygon thing was a result of the Fandom being too creative. They don't want any overlap with fan designs
ah
i was today years old when i realized that
damn y'all changed chats 😢
Like Birds are warmblooded
So sadly we doomed ourselves
yo we need za chat back
I KNOW THE BIRDS GONNA BE GRASS FIGHTING
have they confirmed this or is it speculation?
real
We don't need 3 of them
The more I think about it the more I think this is gonna be a thing
Most dragons in media are based on reptiles, unless they are the lava covered ones Ice normally should fold them 
no , we already have sound based moves , changign types would make it lose stab on a lot of mon. + they prob didn't make a mega because it ha so many fna art they didn't want to infrige on
i feel like this was confirmed with Flying type eevee. dunno about mega flygon
mhm
I don't know if they ever confirmed it but its the most common sentiment I've seen among fans
Nuh uh Penguins are reptiles and like cold
I am sorry Penguins are what to you?
Dragon type penguin pokemon when
reptiles
This was soft-confirmed once in an interview a Gamefreak designer said if a design was too close to a popular fan design they had to scrap it and redo it
Penguins are Reptiles
penguins are birds
They are flightless birds 
I'd like a dragon penguin
they are
You think of lizards
bro what....?
Nvm I was wrong
And I believe this was in relation to talk of the canned flying-type eevee that was going to release in Gen 6
yes and Birds are theropods and theropods are reptiles
theyre birds
birds are reptiles
Dinosaur is a very weird term
And the doggy might be fairy fire
they are??
birds are not reptiles…
Taxonomy discussion
YOU GUYS DIDNT KNOW BIRDS ARE REPTILES?!
birds are more closesly related to crocodiles than crocodiles are to turtles
exactly
Today I leaned birds are technically reptiles
Just cause both have the dinausar in their genealogical repertoir that does not make them reptails
They underwent millions of years of evolutions that changed that
that dosent make them reptiles??
...who decided that
I hate to break it to you but they arent
Usually they are said like they're separate things yeah
We are related to monkeys but arent monkeys
So NGL... I was thinking it was this when those two Pikachus showed up at the front door.
thats such a stupid arguement
No you cant evolve out of a clade
You..can
We are primates
we are humans
By that logic all of us are fish
which are great apes
I mean I know birds were dinosaurs but it never clicked for me that meant that meant birds were reptiles
You cant, you are what you are and always will be
true
I have no stake in the bird reptile talk I am just watching with popcorn
either that, or fish don't exist
Sure whatever makes you sleep better at night
Every place I see confirm birds are reptiles...
I have steak and birds and reptiles are the same thing
fish is not really a clade but a comfy group to use for most aquatic animals that fit theyr criteria
They lay eggs and 250 millions ish ago they had the same parents
Clearly they are the same
Screw every other biological difference between them
Thankyou Mars 
ykw I wont speak in dis one y'all do y'all
has anyone drawn what they think the starter's final evos are gonna look like yet
Should I tell you that we all are also kinda amphibians...?
Isn’t it less birds are reptiles and more birds are closer to dinosaurs (cause they technically are dinosaurs) than lizards are, and they all share that ancestor?
Pombon
Okay now you've lost me sjdnsjnssk
Nah Birds are avian dinosaurs, aka theropods AKA Reptiles
Right
Alright go underwater without scooba equipment and see how long you last
And without protective gear
Butt naked in the water in the same water amphibians go
Amphibians drown too...
Who needs to argue about how fictional animals work when you can argue taxonomy 
true
Like I said share a family point some part in the past they are the same
should have marked with ""
Screw every other biological difference between them
Also it seems that no. You cant evolve out of a clade
Ah so I'm guessing they're pretty vague in definition, or just very inclusive
🤚 what is a clade
what about turtles and crocodiles and the biological differences between those two groups?
Its essentially a family tree but for species
Outside of the fact those are reptiles that behave like reptiles under cold temperatures?
if you think about it everything is a reptile
isn't that circular logic?
Actually no
Mammals are not
bugs aren't
Yeah or bugs are not
Hmmmm I’ll have to think on this
"Amphibians" and "fish" are not
Can someone send the art of Pombon I have an idea of what the evo will look like and I need it for color reference
Hey what was the original topic again?
Some obscure game called pokemon or something
No no we are reptiles 
We call that subspecies of us Mark Zuckerberg
I honest just left chat for a minute before all this and I just saw this
i think this is the official art
And started Learning things
Nah we are not Reptiles but Birds are
why Dragons are weak to Ice
best starter oat btw
Alright sure whatever
we’re birds tho
Did you know all dolphins are whales but not all whales are dolphins 
I still don't know why that never clicked for me.
walk me through your logic
Dont break theyr minds that much...
Like I know birds are dinosaurs
it looks like a dog fused with the blueberry academy guy
That is knew
Did you know that all fish are sharks but not all sharks are fish? Some sharks are actually birds
Mostly because they are both under water mammals so they had to evolve from each other
Do they know that Dogs and Bears are closely related
Yes canines
I don't know what came first tho
also isn't it smth like horses are more closely related to whales than they are to cows?
What if the doggo becomes a fluffy bear?!
I hope yours become first
i think it may become a Cerberus
Fluffy cerberus...
like isn't the gen 10 region greece 
HEAR ME OUT
A cute Ceberus!
due to starter philosophy doggo won't be cute , but I hope it's a big fluffy dog on all 4s
Ooh you could do mid evo adds a second moody head and third adds something else
Cerberus is just a very mean name for Spot anyway
you mean Carnivora?
dogs are Canoidea and bears are Ursoidea
Sure whatever
and gamefreak will ofc make a bipedal cerberus similar to inceneroar
I would add fake heads
What starter philosophy says they can’t be cute?
Name me the last time we had a cute last stage
Meganium proved the finals could be cute... Please just one more meganium....
hydreigon 2
primarina?
Respect my GOATS Chestnaught and Rillboom and Skele adorable
Sure
Meganium tho fs
yes
I will give you skele
Chestnaught and Rili can be in the Australian bushes in summer
ir was before they made it
Meganium or Primarina, depending on whether you count pretty and cute as the same category
they started it at gen 3
Then we can kill it in gen 10
This feels like moving the goal posts unless there’s some sort of confirmation of this existing
Personally I kinda tend to separate them but because I didn't clarify lets keep it the same 
charizarf
i feel like the dog will become a cerberus, the lizard will be an inteleon 2.0 and the owl will be ugly
You cant pay me to find Charizard cute
It’s like saying the starter evos must always have a secondary type trio super effective to each other and they only started it after gen 8
torchich , ugly dugcklin article I think
Browt is not an owl
you spelled charizarf wrong
didn't they also do it in gen 6
Am I missing a meme or somethin?
What if the grass starter becomes a Dinosaur?
Its some sort of flightless bird
it's a beige rowlet 
What bird is Browt? It has very distinctive talons
Like a non avian dinosaur
I think its a kakapo
Ye but for my point I have to exclude gen 8 cause they don’t have a secondary type at all
Phoenix probably
Grass Torchic thats what that is 
kakapo is our best guess
a grass phoenix, sounds kinda fire 
This guy
I expect the grass one becominh a big Parrot
That would be the big brain play of the century if the starters start as one of the starter types and then all switch sjdjzjsjsjosdjsj
Maybe a singer too
A kakapo is infact a big parrot
Please, no more parrots
but your point is flawed ,mine has like 7 (soon 8) point
Grass/Flying is such a Mid Typing tho
Yay big parrot
What you mean no more parrots?
Well lucky you. Its pure grass
what's greece famous bout (other than like mythology)
Bird doesn't mean it has to be flying
Those parrots dont fly
Did I miss a parrot? We only have 2
a cassowary or other ratite were suggested as wel
Which is i think its a kakapo and want its final evo to be a cassawary
Man how many parrots do we even have?
There is the Elvis Presley one and the Controversial one
I’m just pointing out that if you say something is a rule, but then can immediately find something that contradicts that rule, then it’s not a hard and fast rules that disqualifies another instance of that rule not being true
Would be fun
Maybe some sort of terror bird, haast eagle or moa?
chatot, squawkabilly, ...
unpopular opinion: the new starters don't feel like pokemon
I think thats it
there’s also pelipper
People say that every generation
they look like palworld things to me
Ppl say that every gen...
You'll get used to them
What does that even mean? Lmao
Pocket monsters they are supposed to be pocket monsters
each generation they broaden what can be a pokemon
Not a Parrot
So true
You have phrased it in a way I haven’t been able to so far
people said the same thing for last gen
it’s close enough
kinda true but this bunch feels a lot less pokemons
The newer gens have a different style than older gens like 1-4, which isn't inherently a bad thing the style just shifted
Even gen 2
Newer?
They are just new thats all
I think last gen it may not have been true they were on fire last gen
Again wtf does that even mean? Not pokemon wtf do yall think pokemon even are?
it's just that put pikachu next to browt and you'll see what i mean
Gen 5 is super old
There's also charizarf
oh yeah forgot about that one
Newer in comparison is all
Pyroar is a parrot too?
no that’s a lion
No please elaborate
Dont do this backpedaling "I have no real argument" speech here
You have somethin to say finish it
Oh ofc
well duh , one was designed 30 years ago
pelicans are parrots?
ok nvm
No
I don’t see what you mean tho, it has the exact same design philosophy as the other starters
Animal as the basis with changed design to fit its typing
is talonflame a parrot? 
Electric mouse with lightning tail
Fluffy dog with fur like flames
Checks out to me
Basically over time the pokemon style has infact changed but gen 10 looks just as much like a pokemon as gen 9 or 8, but if you compare 9 to 1 it's gonna feel really different, but I mean it's still pokemon, they just exaggerated and changed the style in certain ways over time
my prediction for the gen 10 starter final evo types:
what's the bird that's surprisingly related to that other bird. is it woodpeckers and toucans or woodpeckers and falcons or smth?
Why people are calling it an owl i have no idea
browt will finally become a grass flying starter
browl
Brow
The first one
It looks like Rowlet but not like an owl
As in eyebrow
pombon will stay fire type
Bro
Think of the toucannon line
It looks more like Grass Torchic to me but sure
and gecqua will be water ground
And the second part is either tweet or sprout
nuh uh fire/fighting type
dear god I hope so
The last time we had this typing it was Swampert in gen 3
except quadrupedal
Torchic i can see
yeah, but i can't remember if that's the one that was based on irl phylogeny or not
I really want Pombon to fill the fire fairy typing but it also goes against what I think it’s final evo will look like
idk
I can see fire/fairy for Pombon
looks rowlet-shaped in the render
cuz its a rounded grass bird?
Also there is no way they will have a pure fire type then put dual typing on everyone else
That literally never happened before Golden
They've done it before
Yeah and the leaf eyebrows mirror the leaf bow
(That I know off)
we got toby fox as a pokemon before gta 6
why not start now?
blastoise?
And Gen 3
Oh no the grass bird has leaves 
Sceptile
I never used him okay!?
I'm sure they'll make the bird different from rowlet when it evolves, they just feel similar right now
Hear me out the next water turtle has a shell
there’s serperior and samurott too technically
I mean it’s a different scenario but still
Hoooww? One is a ball shape owl the other is literally green torchic
And the next venomous snake has no legs
Oh and the next theropod dinosaur is on 2 legs
Torchic is more clearly two segments to me and has a much more exaggerated feather top
I think Pombon will just be like Stoutland but Pomeranian and fire/fairy
No matter how much I look at that grass fella I dont see Rowlett at all
I think you all heard, "Browt feels similar to Rowlet" and thought I said, "They are the same" ansjznjskssjd
I think the starters will evolve 
This is a lie
There isn’t a single thought behind those eyes
No way?!?! 
https://x.com/NipahDUBS/status/2027477067806244890
Chat is this true?
Their only similarity is their typing
They aint even the same feather class 
No thoughts, just fluff
what starter are you choosing because i'm choosing pombon
Pombon it isn't even a question
Wait is browt grass/flying?
i named my pidgeot/gyarados bakunawa cuz i thought it sounded cool 
definitely pombon
I prob go with the water one if I get it to release
We dont know yet the secondary typing right?
Gecqua fr
Grass..they are both grass
Uh I think they say on the website Imma check
For me it all depends on the final stage
Currently is the doggo no question that might chance on the final stage
Browt is just graaa
Idk about the last one but I can see the first two
Ignore the typo lol
Becoming a lion after starting a dog tho would be weird
well remoraid evolves into octillery
Some starters start as mono then get secondary typing on evolution
Soo its too soon to tell
It depends on the final evolutions, but so far I’m going with the puppy
Okay chat I think I forgot what Rowlet looked like, Browt is very different looking, it literally was just the two leaves sjdjdnsusjsjd
It can be a Tibetan mastiff tho
Lion dog
BIG FLOOFER
Yeah that’s where I think they’re going
This is what I envision it looking like (i swear I can draw it’s just when I tried drawing it it didn’t look right)
Too early for me to say
Hot dog
Need to see legendaries. This is the closest initial color scheme for the divergent games before right?
None because I don’t have switch 2…
White and Blue, when it’s normally warm color and cool color
I wanna see better the exclusive offerings first 
I want the little grass bjord so bad
Wind is green
wind is green? 
I must purchase the switch 2 swiftly
Ah I see now. Just very light green
Yea barely
I think we’ll get the Tibetan Mastiff, a Terror Bird and idk about the water one but she’ll slay
Im leaning Waves cause blue is my favorite color but I want to know the legendaries
I want to get waves solely cause I like the hat more atm
Is that a hoverboard
Pikachu’s divorced parents
I do think it’s going to be some sort of bidepal + low flight raptor
Possibly
Winds has the better hats so far
New rotom form prob
And also probably a hoverboard
So you can glide over the massive water sections
Judging by the hats on the Waves characters, perhaps you'll be in the region working for some sort of research group
I hate both of them and will dodge both of them as quick as possible if I end up buying the game
In b4 they're pivotal to the story
Design wise fs I hope you can get it all in different colors
They’re your adoptive parents
Im hoping for actual character customization tbh
Well thats a kill mood
i want pombon to keep getting bigger and rounder
I love that Pikachus parents came back from buying Milk
This is how I envision Pombon’s evo (I swear I can draw it just didn’t look right when I first drew it)
It seems very nature-oriented, so maybe the villains will be Evil Polluting People or smth like that
I don't like their designs too much either no sbsjsnshsjs
Game freak will be collabing with National Geographic for this game /j
Thats too minimalistic+
Maybe we get a Oil turtle pokemon
Like the basic concepts mostly
And they're gonna take over the world by spreading pollutants through the air or through the water depending on game version
The evil oil turtle who works at the microplastic factory
I want pombons evo to be like arcanine but chubbier
Maybe we get poachers or so
Gecqua is definitely a fusion between sobble and salandit 🤣
tf HOW
i love him
he cute
what pokes do you guys think the regional and convergent will be?
why not
can't believe it took 30 years to get 1 dog starters but we got 2 cats in the span of 10
fair point :]
omg look the paws!
Long dog?
It's a joke, hence the laughing emoji but basically because like Sobble it's a water type lizard and then it's has the reptilian/sneaky eyes like Salandit and Salazzle
And another water lizard
Browt (Japanese: ハブロウ Haburou) is a Grass-type Pokémon introduced in Generation X.
Along with Pombon and Gecqua, Browt is one of the three first partner Pokémon available at the beginning of Pokémon Winds and Waves. They were also the first Generation X Pokémon to be revealed to the public on February 27, 2026, through a Pokémon Pr...
they have pages now
crowlet
rowt
route
browlet
unibrowlet
we got browlet
yis
because it got brows
I’m ngl this might be my favorite trio of first stage starters with the only ones coming close are the johto trio
All 3 are such home run designs
I read this as water wizard
I want them to become a water wizard now
water is gonna be salazzle
I don't like their names either
I'm not the only one who sees it then 🤣
Only if you design it 🤣
Wait please
is a chicken
and grass types are mostly inspired by dinosaurs or animals from prehistoric era
I wouldn't be mad if Gecqua becomes an axolotl
is already a sceptile
Would be sick
No, swampert is the axolotl but Gecqua has potential to be a better one
That's what I wanted for houndoom, I was so disappointed when he didn't evolve into a cerberus
the legs on the design are already separated and they have a different color
I saw some speculation that Pombon would become a Barong
true
I have a feeling pombon may become a Chinese lion dog
the new mechanic
I saw people saying Gyarados, but it could potentially be one of the legends
I figured it was a new legend or mythical or something
a pokemon
a weirdly darker shaded cloud
Are there any fire starters who’s evolutions are quadruped? Genuine question I can’t think of any
You mean quadruped?
Dumbass looking angry blorbo I love you
Yeah
Uh.. typhlosion sometimes?
charizard, typhlosion, blaziken, infernape, emboar, delphox, incineroar, cinderace, … geez, only skeledirge?
Also infernape also sometimes knuckle walks
Yes
Huh.. I never realized skele was the first time fire starter was actually on all 4s
Only skeledirge
And the rest of its line is biped..
dirge is the reverse of the normal formula
How has this never been noticed before?
Probably has
Well Noone has ever pointed it out before because you'd think that would be pointed out more in the want for quadrapeds
Samurott, too
Oshawott and dewott are bipedal
I mean that is an otter becoming a sealion tbf
I honestly want Pombon to become like a fire type stoutland
Regional Gyarados
Nah, Chinese lion dog would be better
Yeah actually now that I think about it
some would argue that we already got that with H-Arcanine
Samurott isnt a sealion...
True but this can be a bigger, scarier one 🤣
Anyway, convo’s moved on, but I prefer Gen 1’s head:body ratio for their little guys. Where the head is about the same size as the rest of the body as opposed to multiple times larger
I really noticed this when I was spriting growlithe/fennekin
I could easily reference one of my fandoms right now but I’m feeling kind so I won’t
It is literally a samurai sealion 🤣
We’re glad to see that we’re finally gonna get our very first dog starter
Im surprised it took this long too get one
Its a giant otter... what are you talking about
Chinese lion dog would be a bit odd for a region not based on china which this doesn’t seem to be but I’m still hoping
Its not just otter.
Funny new theory: the Pikachus are the legendaries in disguise as tourists at the resort
And that supports your theory how?
The Pikachu are our mom and dad. I don't care what anyone says im calling them mom and dad
As much as I don’t want to believe this it sounds somewhat plausible which scares me
True, I'm not sure where it's meant to be based but either way would still be cool
Another funny part is there are myths about deities (like vampires) needing permission to enter places. What if they can’t enter the resort until we invite them in during the game’s tutorial
I think the citations are in Japanese, but this is what bulbapedia says 🤔
Granted they look like they'll be version exclusives because the male has the winds hat colors and the female has the waves hot colors
indonesia
My genuine assumption is they’re just the professor’s partner Pokemon like the new Pikachu in the new anime
That or our actual parents partner pokemon
I literally suggested they were the box legendaries but cursed into pikachu forms
The first sentence literally says river otter or sea lion
I think they have names i need to see if I can find them
Yeah
they better both be electric types then
Oh cool, hmmmmm, then I have no clue what he could become for cool dogs from there
The Pokémon site says their names are Mr. Windychu and Ms. Wavychu so most likely
Wavychu and Windychu
And others I have found literally say he's a sea lion with Japanese samurai style shell armor
At the end of the game they will have a baby pikachu trust
Which since im leaning towards winds is not great since I like the female Pikachu better
How about this part?
Bit its too early to say
I mean sure depending how far from official statements I go it says a diffrent thing
Yeah but saying its not a Otter anymore is wrong
i love gecqua
I will only accept this for his evolution
Trainer I remember your nuzlockes???
nintendo: hi tobyfox , we would like you to compose music for pokemon wind and waves , would you accept?
tobyfox:sure
nintendo:great ,so we li-
tobyfox: one condition
the condition:
this is what happened to pawmi
Yeah but Pawmi was weird looking. This is fluff looking
double standards smh
If that's what it took for Gamefreak to finally add a dog starter, I'm all for it
It's not wrong, it's fact, I'm a qualified zoologist, I know a sea lion when I see one and that's before googling for evidence 🤣
Also given the fact that they showed underwater biomes we know dive is returning. So I wouldn’t be surprised if Gecqua evolves into a marine iguana or something
im so fucking excited
My heart yearns for a mosasaur but I know they won’t do that
Fr
It literally is a Otter
you are literally living my dream wtf im in college for marine biology
draconstar can you give me a good reference in the field /j
Oooo I love marine iguanas so that would be cool
An* and it literally is not 🤣
Marine Iguanas are so funky, like bro just swim to a different island, there’s more food over there
i was about to say "manifesting a garden eel pokemon" then remembered Wiglett
the garden eel in question:
Guys pombon’s evo was leaked trust /j
Next you wanna say Birds arent reptiles
YES THIS
"but how might we indicate a word that is shortened?" the humble apostrophe:
Look I know I just posted this but like… Please gamefreak. I want a big fluffy dog…
Not anymore they're not, no but they used to be. That's completely irrelevant to two completely different animals of the same family though
THEY’RE SCRAGGLY, DIFFERENT KIND OF CUTE, I WAN FLUFFY CUTE
I actually want the line to be like this
Okay yeah your talking crap
A real zoologist should know you cant evolve out of a clade
Nice, good luck
This is pokemon man, we have salamanders evolving into dragons
And doesn't remoraid evolve into a whole octopus? Lol
Yeah lmao
I mean amphibians becoming Reptiles is fine
What about fish to octopus?
Its also a handgun evolving into a Tank so its fair I think
Firstly, sea lions didn't evolve from otters in real life, secondly you're literally on about a made up thing from a game and anime series as though it's real, grow up.
yeah this is pokemon so we have a few examples of completely swapping genus/clades on evolution
I guess so but still, just ssying not everything needs to make complete and total sense to real life
Your discussing too and throw out fake facts so shouldnt you grow up too 
itd be more accurate to say that modern birds and reptiles share a common ancestor
ofc but Samurott has a good chunk of Otter charakteristics
Aren’t modern birds more closely related to modern reptiles than crocodiles? I think I remembered hearing that once
No Birds are Reptiles
You cant evolve out of a clade
yes, they are archosaur descendants. crocodiles are a completely different branch
Like crocodiles are reptiles but they diverged from reptiles so far back that birds have more in common with reptiles than they do these days
reptiles and birds are broadly contained within sauropsida, arent they?
Yeeee
i think thats true
Dinosaurs are Reptiles
Birds are Dinosaurs
Birds are Reptiles
Is that easy enough?
Not throwing out fake facts, I'm saying that samurott is a sea lion not an otter and you're saying he's not that he's still an otter but he's not because he's a drawing that was based around a sea lion 🤣
birds arent reptiles though
No he doesn't 🤣
modern birds and modern reptiles diverged from a common ancestor
Birds developed their own clade stemming from the reptile clade
They are tho...
mmhm, seconded
And one cant evolve out of a clade so they are both
..............my brain hurts........
Your a nuh uh type of guy arent you...
no, birds are in the class aves, while reptiles are in class reptilia
No you just can’t admit when you’re wrong
theyre both broadly categorized in the sauropsida class
Birds are Reptiles...
Incorrect
you are ragebaiting my ass
WHERE AM I WRONG
Samurott is literally a Giant otter
HES LITERALLY NOT
Not a guy and I'm more of a correct the wrong type of woman
HE EVOLVES FROM TWO OTTERS BUT THIS IS POKÉMON, NOT REAL LIFE
Then what’s the tail..
He does have a tail but it’s like a weird whale tail
Did Oshawott have a long tail? Or Dewott?
Tbf, proportionally to their body, it’s longer than Samurott’s
Yeah actually
and also yeah this is pokemon. its not like real life evolutionary rules apply
We have eggs evolving into trees bro, they’re evolving out of their clade
If i had a nickel for every time i have a strange obsession over a grass sphere bird, i would have 2 nickels, which isn't alot but it's weird it has happen twice
Exeggcute are seeds. The dex says as much
EXEGGUTOR IS A BUNCH OF SEEDS THAT LOOK LIKE EGGS
THAT FUCKING BIRD THAT I Love <3
what clade of animal is this
Also correct, I forgot about that ngl
Im real the more I see the bird the more I like it
Japanese Yokai
Little guy
Oh sure next show the Chandelier...
what type of fruit is this
So grumpy i love him
OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
ask and you shall receive
I like all 3 starters a lot
tbh the more i see browt the more im endeared to it
yeah, samurott is pretty sea lion inspired
may i even add that it has some Walrus inspiration?
with those bigass whiskers
big fucking mustache
Yeah where is its tail
Where is it standing like Samurott?
Do Sealions have a lot to do with Shells?
I can play that game too
Same tail shape, same snout shape and pretty much same fin shape, if you still can't see it, then you're dense as fuck
the autism is screaming in my head
Def not Samurott...
Sea lions don't have hind legs, so there's that in the otter camp
SEALIONS HAVE A POINTY MINI TAIL
Mmm yes my scientifically accurate evolution
Bitch where?
A black image definitely isn’t samurott
They do actually, it’s very small but it’s right behind their butt flippers
It’s like nothing lol
Nah the Zoologist does say Seals dont have tails so it has to be true
Same as apparantly one can evolve out of a clade
omg man
I'm getting tempted to call the mods over the more hostile this.convo gets
Genuinely this guy just cannot cool off
Yeah and so does samurott. The yellow bit
Tbh I agree that I and Draco dont wanna back off
Uh
So what do we think the route 1 bird, bug, and rodent will be?
Your kidding arent you...
I think its more of a route 1 critter than rodent
maybe a diving beetle?
But im unsure let me look through Indonesian wildlife
Would be cool
None, the starters are the only new Pokémon, they blew the budget of 5 dollars and a pack of gum on the graphics
top 10 most pointless arguments in history.
#1 should fictional animals evolve similarly too real life animals?
But I would expect a paradise bird as the route 1 bird
Why is it such a stretch that Samurott is both a sea lion and an otter? The tail resembles a sea lions hindquarters a fair amount, but its body shape is still mustelid esque and there's still the telltale-ott suffix
I love it
What about a leave bug?
Im sure there will be more pokemon than just the starters
sewaddle
I’d argue that Samurott’s body shape more resembles that of a sea lion
Oh no after people showd its apparantly also a Sea lion I dont say anything against it just that it is mainly a Otter
Bonsly-like leaf bug
Looks Bug/Grass, but is actually Bug/Rock
Ofc, I just find it astounding that the development costs for the games are this low
Isnt Sewaddle a leavecutter ant?
Here’s hoping W&W change that
Oooh! Sorry my mistake, i misinterpret things very easy 😅😥
The limbs having defined claws as well as non-flipper legs seem pretty otterlike to me
He could be fun
god I love weird bugs
buge
I love all three of the starters, they are little freaks and i just adore them.
Maybe that could be route 1 bird?
We might get a poison/bug type that resembles a rove beetle
Could he maybe be route 1 critter?
oooh new Pangolin?
btw idk why there is a pic of a dodo
How many of these are already Pokémon? 
Regional Mantine 
Most of them, a Komodo dragon would be cool though
depends how specific you go
Damn, I wrote out a whole thing about samurott sea lions and otters and it all got deleted because I included three images
I hope for some cute ghosts and fairys
you copied the whole text before sending?
Nope. Gotta rewrite it all real quick
I've seen some people hoping for a termite bug Pokémon that converges on the Combee line, but if that happens, the bug nut that I am would demand a termite king split evo
How about a Ghost/Fairy type mimiking a well known pokemon like pikachu
I remember my points but it’s annoying
Sounds fun
a rangda or barong mon would go so fucking hard
actually
calling it now
pombon is a barong
Omg thats so genius 😍
(but that doesn't make sense because barong is a cat) quiet you

doduo
TLDR: Samurott has more sea lion attributes than otter attributes, mainly the extended neck, longer limbs in comparison to its body, a stubbier tail, and (fun fact) sea lions actually do have claws on their flippers. They’re more vestigial than anything but they are still there. I won’t deny that there’s Otter inspiration (for gods sake it’s name has Ott in it) but Samurott specifically is more based on a sea lion than an otter
Lets make it cute and name it somthing like mimic and cute
If it becomes that I definitely don't want that 🤣
mimikyu
nothing he said is wrong tho
Just wanna know did you compare to a giant otter?
Cuz I think they look REALLY diffrent to most others
like you could have just wikipediaed this
'birds are dinosaurs' is known fact and that can also mean that birds are a sub order of reptiles
But lets forget that topic and agree to disagree everyone
Idc whos right and who isnt it just gets annoying
10/10 no notes
I did, really the only thing they changes is the neck length, other than that most of the points laid out still apply
Nah a Zoologist said nuh uh you apparantly can evolve out of a clade
must we do this song and dance again
Bro chill
pokemon is not real life though
clades dont like exist in pokemon
yeah its the only thing that actually annoys me
I shall just.....put this back hereeee
you could have just wikipediaed this
Nah the clades thing isnt even about pokemon anymore
me when gecko
lil buddy!
omg the derp level goes through the roof
I love this stupid reptile lmao
I cant wait to seeits evolution
please gamefreak
PLEASE
do not mess this guy up
i literally Did
Can’t believe our starters are Angry Birds, Toby Fox, and Gex (again)
toby fox 😭😭
you know what would be fuckin sick
🤣
if browlet or whatever his name is was a burrowing owl
grass/ground
they wouldn;'t do it cos they are cowards
I mean its the Bean Bird pokemon
so I can see the ground type
That would be pretty cool, but as we already have three owls, I'm hoping it doesn't become another one 🤣
Rowlett
Hoothoot
and?
noctowl 😛
but then its 5 Owls
oh no the third one being the new one
Claydoll could be seen as Owl
WHAT IS THIS
Delibird is a lil Owl like
Bro looks sad
Great horned owl
Give him a mouse or so qwq
dangit I searched indonesian owl and saw this and got excited
cutey patootie
i love owls
it must be this one then
Okay, technically 3, Hoothoot/Noctowl and then the two versions of Rowlets last evolution is what I meant
Oh! Then probably an Indonesian cousin of the Great Horned species?
The Rinjani scops owl (Otus jolandae) is a species of scops owl found only on Lombok in the Lesser Sunda Islands of Indonesia and its neighbouring Gili Islands. The only bird species endemic to the island, it was first recognized as a separate species in September 2003 and was formally described in 2013.
But it looks familiar to the owls that are in the Northwest of America
I mean it doesn't need to be a native species but it would be boring if it was another great horned
it's actually a chicken
Doesnt look owl like to me
chickens are native to SEA
Maybe Cockatrice final?
did anyone notice the beak literally being a seed?
nope
its so amazing
It did say it was coffee inspired on the site, so maybe like a coffee tree?
The seed grows?
Its probably a pun on chickpea because it’s a pea chick
Man a bird that doesnt want to wake up early
coffee chicken? I can see that
the seed growing into a sprout would flow nicely into the comb
I love the
apparently it is the bean chick pokemon
quit with this cockatrice stuffit's not happening lol
Best final evo ever
I can just imagine a person picking Brownt and getting woken up at 5am from chicken screems now xD
Why not
Yeah the site says that
haha I just went to bulbagarden to check and they've got a retro thing gooing on
IF THE BIRD TURNS TO MR ROGERS I'LL CRY
WE'VE HAD SO MANY BIPED STARTERS SINCE GEN 6 
doggo drawings
I would love a hornbill. they are cute
I want feather texture on my bird goddammit! 
Toucannon?
Could be a hornbill as they eat coffee beans
Oh it could become one of these
Bulba says they're a Kakapo
bulba says it may be inspired by a kakapo
Chick does not tell us much. It's a generic name for baby bird
I’m sorry but it looks like happy monster band
and I don't think they are at all similar
hmmm hornbill would be nice and I see the vision
but I'm all in on chicken now
Anyway, I hope we get our Ground/Fairy this gen
That's a toucan, this is a hornbill which is a different type plus it's not like we don't have multiple different Pokémon of other animals 🤣
I feel like at this point Browt has too few features to definitively label as one species or another
it could also be a cassowary
I mean it could.
I am rooting for it to evolve into a flightless bird like a cassowary or elephant bird or something. I am highly resting this on the fact that it's pure Grass and not Grass/Flying like Rowlet was
What would it be for you? A Goblin, some sort of lizard?
It just kinda looks like an angry green Torchic rn
Elephant bird could be sick
Truuuueeeee
We have so many cat/dog/frog pokemon
like to jump over my fence 
Browt also looks like beta Torochi
Oooh, could become a burrowing owl?
I don't think that's anything
not owl like enough imo
yeah that was my first thought before I realised it could be a chicken
I really don't think we'll get a second grass owl starter
Chickens burrow into the ground
Ticci Toby
Not all, but there are some
And mice and a few horses and monkeys
Well, my fakemon is a critter that clothes itself in mud
So in my head it’d be something like that, but another golem-inspired ‘mon could work
🤔 could even be a regional golett now that I think about it
Grass is weak to fire so the bird won’t win
yeah but what if its ground type and goes EQ
We actually have surprisingly few horses. Ponyta/Rapidash, then Mudsdale and then the two legendary steeds. That's not even that much for such a popular animal.
oh, forgot about Keldeo
do we have a kicking bird yet
I know, I did say a few 🤣
lil more if we say Equidae
And unless you count Cobalion, we have no antelope
Technically with blaziken
oh yeah
G Zapdos
Yeah we need some antelopes
Blaziken is a bird that kicks
And Hisui Decidueye
I want a Oryx Pokemon
Dikdik Pokémon when
I mean me too but they aren't from this area of the world
that doesn't make it impossible but it would be weird
Also doduo/dodrio is based on a bird that kicks but they don't kick
I love those guys so much
I mean, we had zebras in NYC and koalas in Hawaii
is 2027 the year of the dog?
I went to the al ain zoo many many years ago and they had lots of oryxes
my mum was like 'hol I don't want to see any more goats'
they had scimitar-horned oryxes there
IMAGINE THEY GIVE GECQUA A IGUANA 2ND STAGE AND CROCODILE 3RD STAGE
I think there will always be some pokemon based on animals from somewhere else but get connected with stuff from that area of the world
And for some reason they can learn fly xD
AND MAKE IT A GUN BASED WATER POKEMON
yeah and copperajah lol
a third crocodile starter?
WAIT THERE ARE 3
I expect Gecqua to become a monitor lizard
Oh wait, I just thought, one of my favourite animals is from Indonesia
oh there will defo be a komodo
lucky for you the game is indonesia based
Komo'o returns? :D
YESS
What are you basing this off of?
I really want a good Komodo dragon Pokemon 
gib cosmog regional variant
I'LL BE SO HAPPY IF WE GET A BIG DRAGON POISON KOMODO DRAGO
I mean, if this really is Indonesia, they'd better put Oranguru in
It feels a lot like Indonesia, buildings, islands etc
oh it's browt because brow + sprout dooiiiii
The tree kangaroo
or a second orangutan poke
love those lil idiot