pokemon-winds-waves

[velvet forum]

Well like i said before M dragonites shiny is peak

Shiny M emboar too

That has some nice blue on it

[runic peak]

Oh ok this is it

Yeah that's the best shiny mega

How could I forget

[unborn elm]

Yes

But wait

[velvet forum]

How do we feel abt emboar

[unborn elm]

Mega shiny zygarde

[runic peak]

I'm so incredibly happy they made it blue

[velvet forum]

nahhh

[runic peak]

I really like mega emboar
Never really liked regular emboar aside from blue fire shiny but the mega's great
i can finally say the unova starter trio is peak

[jade ocean]

Shiny Mega Steelix goes pretty hard, I love the gold

Uhh

Shiny Mega Emboar is cool because the blue fire is cool

[robust wren]

Mega Aggron is pretty good

[jade ocean]

Shiny Mega Zygod looks cool because like

It's Zygarde

[runic peak]

that's so sick

[velvet forum]

meh

[jade ocean]

Zygarde's shiny is universally good

[velvet forum]

he was my first shiny!

[meager lynx]

I don’t like Emboar
The mega is cool, but I don’t like the base design and the mega doesn’t save it

[velvet forum]

and my starter choice so it was so lucky

[runic peak]

mega aggron was my fav mega before za

[unborn elm]

https://tenor.com/view/zygarde-nihil-light-true-pokemon-legends-za-mega-zygarde-gif-8555097443830592470

[runic peak]

oh nice!

[velvet forum]

Ive always liked emboar

he was my first starter

[jade ocean]

Shiny Mega Delphox is also cool

Shiny Delphox is cool

[unborn elm]

Like first shiny ever or just in Z-A

[runic peak]

honestly I do consider megas when deciding how good a pokemon is and not any other gimmick just because I love megas

[velvet forum]

just in ZA

[jade ocean]

I do not have any clue what the Shiny DLC Megas look like uhh

[robust wren]

I haven't seen their full body shinies yet, but the portraits for ||Mega Golurk and Mega Absol Z || are incredibly promising

[unborn elm]

Ah

[velvet forum]

Ive seen Shiny M ||Golurk||

its peak

[runic peak]

oh how does that look

[jade ocean]

Yeah I'm gonna go Shiny Mega Steelix here

[meager lynx]

Fair, but that doesn’t save Emboar
Base Emboar is like a 4/10, Mega Emboar is like a 7/10

[runic peak]

Oh nvm i think i saw smth with all of em

[meager lynx]

Not because the mega is bad, but because Emboar is

[runic peak]

Yeah that's fair enough

[jade ocean]

Newer games give these metallic Pokemon and their shinies so much justice

[velvet forum]

like metagoat

[runic peak]

Honestly the za starters are all pokemon I normally don't like I'd just pick tepig because mega emboar

[jade ocean]

OK but even excluding newer game metallic textures it's either the 1st or 2nd most popular shiny mega

[meager lynx]

I love Mega Fera but they ruined it by leaving the hood up

Mega Meganium is really cool tho

[velvet forum]

i wish diancies shiny was better

[runic peak]

#pokemon-winds-waves message

[robust wren]

||Mega Garchomp Z seems to have repeated the shiny crimes its base form committed||

[runic peak]

[runic peak]

||mega garchomp z actually has good stats though right?||

[meager lynx]

Absolutely

[robust wren]

||oh it's Ubers level good||

[runic peak]

||better mega but bad shiny ||

||never liked regular m garchomp's design anyways||

[robust wren]

||it has minmaxed stats when its BST is 700.|| Need I say more

[runic peak]

||so it's straight up an upgrade||

||garchomp absolutely deserved a z mega lol||

[jade ocean]

||Garchomp's in a weird spot where it by itself kinda doesn't need anything, but the one thing it did get was actual stinking garbage||

[runic peak]

||i gotta see the stats for the megas lol||

[meager lynx]

I’m just waiting for Mega Charizard Z

[jade ocean]

||And that changes with the DLC||

[meager lynx]

We just got a Charizard event like two days ago, everything’s coming together

[jade ocean]

||Whether or not you think Garchomp deserved the Z Mega for its base Mega being garbo or if you thought that Garchomp didn't need a Mega then and doesn't need one now, I think most can agree this shit's busted||

[runic peak]

||even gamefreak knew that was going too far ||

[robust wren]

||Even Mega Bax had the decency to distribute its newfound 100 decently evenly, war crime that it still is. Garchomp did not need to be minmaxed.||

[runic peak]

||i only saw the stats for mega tatsugiri which seemed pretty bad ngl||

[meager lynx]

I think they’re just slowly teasing it

[jade ocean]

||TLDR: We have the potential new worst Mega, tied with Malamar||

[unborn elm]

Fuck

[runic peak]

||why raise defenses on 68 base hp ||

[jade ocean]

||"I thought Mega Scovillain was supposed to be the Legend of ZA, not the Legend of ZU"||

[unborn elm]

How do I spoiler the pic

[robust wren]

||Gamefreak Balancing summed up in a single image||

[jade ocean]

||We also have abominations like Mega Magearna and all 3 Z Megas||

[unborn elm]

How do I put spoiler warnings on pictures again.

[runic peak]

||mixed attacker syndrome ||

[jade ocean]

||To be fair to Mega Bax, it being as strong as it is is mostly due to Base Bax being stupid||

||Mega Absol Z's just stupid for the love of the game I fucking guess||

[robust wren]

||There was literally nothing that could have made a Mega Magearna okay. Even the Pyroar treatment would be stupid on it||

[jade ocean]

||More than double the speed||

[runic peak]

||why does the mon with the cool grass fire typing get bad stuff||

[jade ocean]

||And yes, it only being 1 point more than double the speed absolutely fucking matters||

||It's the difference between getting outsped and nuked by Scarf Gholdengo and outspeeding and nuking Scarf Gholdengo||

[unborn elm]

||Mega Golisipod stats||

Are cool

[robust wren]

||at least the evil and intimidating horse has something to be afraid of now||

[jade ocean]

||I shit you not, that 1 point of speed really changes that interaction||

[unborn elm]

I’d like to send the stat picture but I lowkey forgot how to spoiler pics

[jade ocean]

||Oh and ofc it speedcreeps that stupid fucking king||

[unborn elm]

[jade ocean]

||The rest of the Megas range from good but not broken to kinda mid||

[runic peak]

i'm on mobile, you click on the picture before sending it and it says mark as spoiler

[unborn elm]

Ah thx

[runic peak]

I'm pretty sure on pc you hover over the picture and the spoiler thing appears

[runic peak]

Np

[jade ocean]

||Well actually Mega Raichu Y is kinda broken tbh||

[runic peak]

Uhhh

You forgor one

[unborn elm]

It wasn’t letting me spoiler the other one ?…

[robust wren]

||"You saved us from Calyrex!"||
||Megasol Z: "oh I wouldn't say saved. More like, "under new management.""||

[runic peak]

delete it

[unborn elm]

I put it as a spoiler

Why

[runic peak]

poor jay 😭

[unborn elm]

AHHHGHGHHG

[runic peak]

I can do it for you if you want

[unborn elm]

[runic peak]

There we go

[jade ocean]

Anyways, ||Mega Golisopod has good stats||

||Really good, even||

||Just one teeny tiny issue||

||If it keeps Emergency Exit, it ain't touching OU anyways||

[runic peak]

||They'll prob change it||

[jade ocean]

||Please, Gamefreak, don't give this mon Emergency Exit||

[robust wren]

||I am kinda sad that Mega Golurk still doesn't have the best stats, but I feel like there was only so much you could do with the mess that is base Golurk's stats. Still love it for the design, but I am sad I can't see it being useful competitively ||

[unborn elm]

Oh lord yes

[jade ocean]

||Mega Meowstic's stats aren't fantastic, but I do want to note how it is better than Froslass in every stat except one where being better at is worse for them||

[unborn elm]

Do not give it that ability

[jade ocean]

||Gamefreak locked the FUCK in when giving Meowstic its stats||

[unborn elm]

https://tenor.com/view/golisopod-pokémon-gif-17089912987702275287

Emergency exit sucks ass

[runic peak]

||They'll actually give it emergency exit part 2 electric boogaloo which switches out when it falls below 99% hp ||

[unborn elm]

OH GOD NO

Lowkey

Give it parental bond but with a different name

[runic peak]

||Wdym first impression?||

[unborn elm]

[jade ocean]

||Basically just 0 ability since Hazards get you below 100% from base Golisopod then you Mega Evolve||

[runic peak]

[unborn elm]

Or

We give it stamina

[jade ocean]

||Already 10 times better than base Emergency Exit as a result||

[unborn elm]

[jade ocean]

Here's my stupid broken idea

[unborn elm]

Give it stamina

Or even better

[jade ocean]

||So, Golisopod is a Water/Bug type from Alola, but it lost its Water type, which is a pretty iconic part of it||

[unborn elm]

Moxie

[jade ocean]

||So what if we take inspiration from the other Water/Bug Alolan Mon?||

[unborn elm]

Or or

We give it speed boost

[jade ocean]

||We give this fucker Water Bubble||

[unborn elm]

OH FUCK

[jade ocean]

||Now it can't be burnt, can probably tank most Fire moves due to only being 2× weak to them and also hits hard as heck with Water moves||

[robust wren]

I stand by my opinion that Emergency Exit would be seen in a way more positive light if it only activated at the end of the turn that Pod lost half its health instead of immediately afterwards

[jade ocean]

||As hard as an Adaptability Water Move||

[jade ocean]

Water found in the ocean

[runic peak]

what is bro cooking ⁉️ ⁉️

[unborn elm]

Oh my

Ok but guys I have a less broken one

We give it speed boost

[jade ocean]

OK but like how would it fit?

Golisopod is famously slow as a stuffed toy

[unborn elm]

Well it’s tanky

So it could live a decent amount of rounds to rack up those boosts

[robust wren]

||it has two extra arms like how Mega Mawile got an extra jaw-horn-thing, clearly it needs Huge Power, it only makes sense ||

[jade ocean]

OK but what exactly makes it seem like it should be able to get Speed Boost?

[unborn elm]

Uhhhh

[jade ocean]

It doesn't really have anything to do with boosting Speed, the most you can argue is having priority but a large number of Pokemon have some form of priority

[runic peak]

||ok hear me out so it's somewhat darker which means it's baked||

||so we give it well baked body ||

[jade ocean]

||Do not cook||

[unborn elm]

Fuck it we give it stamina or a special defense version of stamina

[runic peak]

I am the cook though

[jade ocean]

You will be cooked

Ready the Specs Overheats in Sun

[runic peak]

-# yeah my ass does not know enough about competitive lmfao

[robust wren]

||Mega Heatran should get an ability where everything else on the field is instantly burned cause of its body being 1.8 million degrees Ferenheit ||

[jade ocean]

Anyways as a more serious idea, it does seem like the sort of mon to get Tough Claws

[runic peak]

-# i like watching competitive videos and conversations though

[jade ocean]

And Tough Claws is pretty common amongst Megas I'd say

[unborn elm]

Yeaaaaa

I guess

[runic peak]

||they really just pick any big number 😭 ||

[unborn elm]

-# still should have stamina

[jade ocean]

I mean you ask me to name 4 Tough Claws mons and I'd name like

Zard X Megagross Mega Aero Barbaracle

[robust wren]

||It disrupts physical attackers, AND becomes Ursaluna's BFF||

[jade ocean]

And 3 of those 4 are Megas

[runic peak]

||who asked for mega heatran again||

[jade ocean]

There is also Perrserker and Dusk Lycanroc tbf

[unborn elm]

|| mega Golisipod should have stamina ||

[jade ocean]

||Idk, it's not exactly a bad Pokemon and it isn't popular amongst casuals either||

||By that I mean Heatran is kinda fucking GOATed||

[robust wren]

||competitive players like it||

[runic peak]

spoiler

[unborn elm]

Fuck mb

[runic peak]

[unborn elm]

I kinda type stuff sometimes with 0 thought

But still

|| giant steel bug needs stamina ||

[robust wren]

||You think Mega Crabominable will have the chops for a Trick Room team? Cause a Crabominable redemption arc would be interesting to see||

[unborn elm]

|| mega golisipod in trickroom ||

[jade ocean]

||It'd be cool, but I don't think it'll be a better TR Mega Abuser than Camerupt, and you can only have 1||

[edgy palm]

||Some of these mons could have used a better defensive boost. Megas should not only be stronger but harder to take down||

[charred sage]

or Glacrier (give or take an onion), which doesn't take a mega slot

[velvet forum]

Hey guys what did i miss

[robust wren]

||Mega Tatsugiri has such an odd distribution. It looks like it won't be anything more than okay, and given its biggest competitive draw will probably be "plan B if the Dozo teamup doesn't pan out," you would think that it would be a bit more competent. Especially with the item and mega slots being taken up by it||

[velvet forum]

||golurk and darkrai got a good defensive boost if im not mistaken||

[jade ocean]

||Golurk's isn't anything too crazy||

[velvet forum]

He had decent defenses to begin with

what really got buffed was his attack

i think its 160 now

[jade ocean]

||The main mons that got massive amounts of bulk to my memory are Darkrai, Crab, Staraptor, Tatsu and Raichu X||

[jade ocean]

159 but close enough

[velvet forum]

Yk who also should’ve gotten megas ||the kalos fossils||

[robust wren]

||I don't know if I would call Megachu X's bulk "massive"||

[jade ocean]

Also why the FUCK are we ||giving a shitload of bulk to frail mons||

[velvet forum]

I mean

it makes the mega viable

Thats the whole point i think

[jade ocean]

||40 fucking stats to Defence||

[velvet forum]

take Mega Hawlucha for example

didnt it get massive bulk

[robust wren]

||and yet it's still 95||

[jade ocean]

||The question was good defensive boost, not good defences||

[velvet forum]

Fair enough

Im such a fake blaziken fan dude

i didnt know until recent you could run blaziken specially

bc its technically a mixed attacker

[jade ocean]

||Golisopod also got crazy bulk too actually||

||And that beast was already a bulky behemoth||

||With its 140 fucking Defence||

[velvet forum]

Do yall think we would get another dlc for ZA considering the last two games had 2 dlcs

[robust wren]

Probably not

[velvet forum]

True

[robust wren]

This was a lot of new stuff

[velvet forum]

theres only so much you can do in a city map too

unless we got another area of kalos perhaps

[runic peak]

i feel like two dlc's is just gonna be something for the main games

[velvet forum]

To be fair

this is the first time a non main game gets a dlc

so who knows

[runic peak]

-# ||unless that one dialogue was hinting at mega flygon dlc ||

[velvet forum]

Yk what they could do for a second dlc

Yk how the museum has the volo outfit

what if we revisit the hisui lore

it says it was personally handed in or smth like that

[runic peak]

volo comes back 😭

[velvet forum]

Dude could u imagine

MEGA GIRATINA

[runic peak]

Mf appears and pulls out mega satan

[velvet forum]

I actually wouldnt mind that

[runic peak]

I'm not saying it's bad

Actually the opposite

It would be so peak for a final battle

[velvet forum]

It would just be a little odd to fit into the kalos timeline

Off topic but i really wish there was a italy region

[runic peak]

at this point this ain't a kalos game

[velvet forum]

Fire starter is just a wolf made of spaghetti

[runic peak]

it's just the mega evolution game

[velvet forum]

this is technically true

[runic peak]

i like spaghetti so hell yeah

[velvet forum]

It would fit cuz the national animal of italy is a wolf too

I need to learn how to develop shit so i can make a pokemon italy fangame

[runic peak]

spaghetti and pizza are my fav foods i want the spaghettimon and pizzamon now

[velvet forum]

This is why an italy region could be peak

Italian ice themed ice type mon too

[charred sage]

from what I recall that's a ||Your Nickname Here dialogue sadly||

[velvet forum]

For some reason i keep thinking this dudes pfp is cartman from south park

[runic peak]

||Oh it's actually not real?||

||thank goodness||

[velvet forum]

Yk what i wouldnt be mad abt

another gen 3 remake

[runic peak]

mega shedinja

oh and ofc mega flygon

[runic peak]

ninjask too while we're at it

[jade ocean]

My main wishlist for Megas are for Pokemon who have counterparts with Megas

Because I can't think of much else

Goodra is here too

Because they did Goodra so fucking dirty

[runic peak]

Which ones were there

I rember slowking

Froslass got one

And uhh

Idk

[jade ocean]

Clawitzer, Kleavor, Turtonator, Vileplume (and by extension Bellossom), Cloyster, Mantine and Slowking

In order, their counterparts would be Dragalge, Scizor, Drampa, Victreebel, Starmie, Skarmory and Slowbro

[runic peak]

Ohhh I see not just evo line counterparts

And I forgor kleavor

[jade ocean]

There is also part of me that wants to fully finish all Pseudo Megas in general and not just Goodra

But I don't want to begin to comprehend Mega Dragapult

[runic peak]

I love dragapult

It's my fav pseudo

[jade ocean]

That mf would be a menace to society

[velvet forum]

Hear me out

Mega dragapult

[jade ocean]

Mega Dragapult would give me nightmares more than Darkrai would

[velvet forum]

oh wait

thats so funny

[jade ocean]

Nightmare Pokemon my ass

[velvet forum]

i didnt even read what yall said

And i said dragapult

[jade ocean]

Bro fell to OU L bozo

[velvet forum]

Lol

[robust wren]

||Mega Garchomp Z is already basically Mega Dragapult without the Ghost type||

[velvet forum]

dont slander darkrai

hes still peak

[jade ocean]

OK but seriously though, Dragapult is the 2nd strongest Pseudo

[velvet forum]

Best mythical by far

[jade ocean]

And it needs no help

That said

[velvet forum]

Under metagross

[jade ocean]

The 1st strongest Pseudo did get a Mega

In the exact same generation

That it was introduced

So like

[runic peak]

so clearly dragapult deserves one

[jade ocean]

Gamefreak doesn't give a flying fuck

[velvet forum]

Who tf the first strongest psuedo.

[jade ocean]

Bax

[velvet forum]

Fuck no

[jade ocean]

(Excluding Megas, including Megas it's Mence)

[runic peak]

Oh bax is the strongest?

[velvet forum]

bax is not the strongest psuedo

At all

[robust wren]

Yes it is

[velvet forum]

Bax is like

[runic peak]

i actually dunno lol which is it

[velvet forum]

one of the worst actually

[robust wren]

Have you seen the terror it causes with Scale Shot Loaded dice

[jade ocean]

I'm not a Doubles player so whoops!

[velvet forum]

That wasnt even its most popular set

[runic peak]

I didn't even know dragapult was like the second one lol yeah it's clear I don't know enough bout competitive

[velvet forum]

Yk who deserves a fucking mega

HAXORUS

[jade ocean]

Also I have barely heard about any Pseudo in VGC anyways

[velvet forum]

WHERE IS HAXORUS’ MEGA

WHERE

[runic peak]

oh hell yeah

[jade ocean]

So by VGC balance logic they all need Megas

[velvet forum]

Haxorus should have been a psuedo

[runic peak]

Every pokemon needs a mega

[velvet forum]

Every mega needs a pokemon*

[jade ocean]

Mega Lunala better be Ghost/Fairy or I'm rioting

[runic peak]

what does that mean 😭

We should get like

Mega ultra necrozma or smth idk

[jade ocean]

You can't just make the Moone Pokemon and not make it a Fairy type that's disrespectful as shit

[runic peak]

-# for obvious reasons this is a joke

[velvet forum]

-# Is it crazy to say i want a mega zekrom

[jade ocean]

Mfw the MOONE Pokemon that naturally learns MOONblast and MOONlight, which are both Fairy moves, isn't a Fairy type

Best Psychic move before Gen 9 by level up was like, Psybeam btw

Or was it Confusion?

[velvet forum]

HEAR ME OUT

GIVE THE FORCES OF NATURES MEGAS

[runic peak]

best legendary though
-# def not biased because i love unova

[velvet forum]

!!!!!

[velvet forum]

hes tied with kyogre they are both my favorite

[red ocean]

I said this yesterday :O

[jade ocean]

It's especially annoying since Lunala's Psychic Type is so fucking garbage

Literally mono Ghost would've been better

[velvet forum]

does the cult of lunala respect solgaleo glazers

[runic peak]

nah enough bout megas we should actually just get the og tao trio dragon

[jade ocean]

Ye Solgaleo is cool too

[runic peak]

-# and then give a mega to that

[velvet forum]

I love how in the anime solgaleo just deadass acted like a big house cat

[red ocean]

"On the topic of typings we wish Pokemon had, Lunala should've been Ghost/Fairy and Solgaleo Psychic/Fire " - Slimee, yesterday

[charred sage]

from what I recall ||you can submit any pokemon for those requests and that one asks for any ground type? not sure since I don't have ZA, that's just what I've heard||

[velvet forum]

Steel fire

Solgaleo dosent strike me as a psychic type

[red ocean]

I said that next lol

[jade ocean]

I'd prefer Steel/Fire for consistency here

Anyways I've preached Ghost/Fairy Lunala for ages

[runic peak]

||Yeah idk don't have za too||

[jade ocean]

And it's even one of the 50 reasons why I fucking HATE Flutter Mane

[velvet forum]

I feel like the only legendary trio people beef the most with is groudon and kyogre

[red ocean]

Steel/Fire would give it the type advantage over Lunala tho

[velvet forum]

everyone knows kyogre better tho

[jade ocean]

I can't say I particularly care

[velvet forum]

https://tenor.com/view/kyogre-kyogresmile-pokemon-pokemon-smile-kyogre-creepy-gif-19828510

[jade ocean]

Mainly because Solgaleo needs this help

Like my man's hot garbage right now

Someone save this man

[velvet forum]

Kyogre is lowkey cute

for being able to end the world n shit

bros just a lil whale type shit

[red ocean]

Yeah but I don't want another Groudon<Kyogre thing*

[velvet forum]

Who else is palkia>dialga

or just me

[jade ocean]

I mean if you made Solgaleo Psychic/Fire then Lunala's the one that just is objectively advantaged

Dialga also has the advantage over Palkia

[red ocean]

Yeah
But
Read the name

[jade ocean]

As does Xerneas over Yveltal

[velvet forum]

Even tho theres more palkia and yveltal fans

which is odd

[jade ocean]

Lunala is my favourite Pokemon and it isn't close but even then I ain't gonna kneecap Solgaleo just to make sure it doesn't pose a threat to Lunala

[velvet forum]

Heres a hot take

zama>zac

[jade ocean]

"Here's a hot take" followed by lukewarm take, a classic

Yknow what is a hot take?

I genuinely think Origin Palkia is leagues upon leagues cooler than base Palkia and it isn't even close

[red ocean]

Hehe nothing touches the queen

Except Necrozma bc Dawn Wings is just cooler Lunala

[red ocean]

Nah I agree with that tho

I feel like the render doesn't do it justice

[jade ocean]

Genuinely you will see Origin Palkia at the bottom of tierlists 80% of the time

And far below base Palkia

And I don't get why

[red ocean]

It's because of the base render

This is the only real official art for origin palkia imo:

-# really low quality image but wtv

[jade ocean]

Idk I just think the centaur space god looks cool as fuck

Yknow because it's a centaur space god

Like base Palkia is decent but it's also a bit... awkward, if you get what I mean

Like idk I've always felt like there was something off about base Palkia

[red ocean]

Giraffe neck

[jade ocean]

That makes me not like it as much as some other box arts

[jade ocean]

If that was the case I wouldn't like Raging Bolt

Anyways a bit sidetracked lmao

TLDR: Lunala is peak and Flutter Mane is cringe, back to Megas

What are your favourite Megas from the base game of ZA?

[red ocean]

No, another sidetrack now
You wanna know something I've noticed?
All mainline Pokemon games (and by extent their box legendaries) are either "Red" or "Blue".
For example:
Red Game | Blue Game
Red and Blue (Duh)
Gold and Silver
Ruby and Sapphire
Pearl and Diamond (reversed name order this time lol)
White and Black - fire color/lightning color
X and Y
Sun and Moon
Sword and Shield is the first one I can think of that kind of breaks this combo... But then you realize that Zacian and Zamazenta are red or blue lol
Then ofc
Scarlet and Violet

I'm sure I'm not the first to notice this, but it's something to think about for fan games with dual versions and such

And how legendaries are designed

The third legendaries are kind of wild cards, but they're generally black or grey:
Giratina
Kyurem
Zygarde (mostly black but has some green to fit with "R-B-G")
Necrozma (Base form)

And then Eternatus and Terapagos were just like "fuk yu I'ma do wtv"
But ended up being red and blue respectively

[daring finch]

Dialga isnt red

Wait I meant palkia

But still point stands

[red ocean]

As for the actual question that was asked, my fav is between Mega || Dragalge || and Mega || Barbaracle ||, although || Chandelure ||'s a close second

[velvet forum]

hear me out

[red ocean]

It's pink, which is red-toned

[velvet forum]

Mega regigigas

[red ocean]

Hmmm

[velvet forum]

[red ocean]

I would say no, regional regigigas

[velvet forum]

I like that

[red ocean]

Without slow start

[velvet forum]

Ghost type regigigas

[daring finch]

Pokemon, famous for giving legendaries regionals

Paradoxes dont count

[velvet forum]

Meh more like megas

theres more legendary megas than regional legendaries

[red ocean]

Regional birds

[jade ocean]

Why the heck do we genuinely just have the same opinions actually

[red ocean]

:D

[velvet forum]

i cant stand mega barbaracle

its too weird

[red ocean]

Wait yeah why'd I spoiler

[jade ocean]

"Lunala is peak and they should change its type to Ghost/Fairy"
"Palkia Origin is goated actually"
"Mega Barbaracle, Dragalge and Chandelure are peak"

[red ocean]

Why, do you not like the Eldritch God?

[velvet forum]

nope

[jade ocean]

We might just be secretly the same person all along

[velvet forum]

What about mega but like

only stage 1 mons

[red ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/barbaracle-pokémon-pokémon-legends-z-a-lumiose-city-kalos-gif-4511223123662170697

[jade ocean]

Mods don't kill me this is a joke

[velvet forum]

Mega torchic

[red ocean]

Yeah don't kill me either
They're not my alt I'm serious

Although they might be my doppelganger ngl lol

[velvet forum]

mods disintegrate their atoms

[red ocean]

NAR
I REFUSE

NECROZMA
NUKE THIS MAN-

[velvet forum]

what if Mega but opposite

[red ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/light-sun-and-moon-pokemon-ultra-sun-ultra-moon-gif-12165626086548047400

[velvet forum]

Agem forms

They are just significantly worse

-300 bst

[red ocean]

...Hoopa Confined

[velvet forum]

Torchic beats this guy btw

[red ocean]

Alr then beat the totem Necrozma fight with only a torchic of the same level no held item

[jade ocean]

"Mods, cut them down, break them apart, splay the gore of their profane form across the stars, grind them down until the very sparks cry for mercy."

• Someone, probably

[velvet forum]

Easy

[red ocean]

Wanna try it

[velvet forum]

one ember and necrozma explodes

[red ocean]

...okay open up showdown

[velvet forum]

Nope!

[red ocean]

Why's that

[velvet forum]

showdown dosent accurately measure torchics strength

https://tenor.com/view/may-torchic-pokemon-buff-gains-gif-9412017531290124107

this dude gives arceus a run for his money

source: trust me bro

[red ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokimon-starter-gif-20179860

[desert current]

Anyone else noticed how the Pokedex is just... Buggy as all heck?

It doesn't register things properly sometimes, and reverts things to different forms constantly.

[velvet forum]

nope ive had no problems

[desert current]

I have a ||Shiny Meowstic, but the Pokedex doesn't show its mega as shiny.||

[velvet forum]

are u playing on switch 1

[desert current]

Yes

[velvet forum]

It does that sometimes i think it dosent stay actually

like u can toggle it

but it isnt permanent

[desert current]

It is for most of them.

Its wildly inconsistent whether or not it decides to do that.

[velvet forum]

Yeah nvm that happens to me a lot

its annoying but hey what can ya do

ill take that being a problem then something else tho

[desert current]

Like ||Mega Meowstic's|| dex is being even weirder than normal, cause it doesn't give me the option to show its shiny form (even though I've used it in battle before). If I go to the main dex and look at its shiny, then go to the Mega Evolution dex the icon shows it as shiny, but the model preview is normal. Its really bizarre.

[velvet forum]

maybe it’s something with the new dex

[warm knot]

Hot take: I don't like gen 9 pokemon getting megas

[icy flax]

any updates on this?

[runic peak]

I remember poketips in his stream ||had a shiny mega absol z and it didn't let him show the shiny form in the dex||

||just the shiny for the regular mega absol||

[brazen jetty]

wtf are mega lucario's stats 😭

[robust wren]

Of you're talking about Z, unfortunate is what they are

150 SpA on something who's best STAB options are either 80 base power or Focus Blast is such a tease

It's still probably going to be a really good mega, but I feel like it's OU good as opposed to OG Mega Lucario's Ubers good

[desert current]

In Z-A Focus Blast is better than Aura Sphere.

Has no downsides at all, just a massive 140 power.

I get that you're talking about how it will work in future games like Champions, but still... It was designed for Z-A first and foremost.

Pretty sure they added Steel Beam in the DLC too (It at least looked like Mega Lucario used it in the Mega Lucario Z teaser).

[red ocean]

Oh yeah we can't forget that Z-A gave mons new movesets

Holy shit
DLC spoilers:
|| I just realized that Ansha HAS to be related to Diantha in SOME way, because they share the same musical leitmotif!! ||

[unborn elm]

Isn’t it lowkey obvious as hell cus
|| They have the same eye and hair color ||

[wispy kernel]

||Even the same eyelashes ngl||

[desert current]

Spoilers for later in the DLC: ||Yes, Diantha is her mom. They outright say it about halfway through the story.||

[uneven turret]

So guys

[red ocean]

|| Yes, but visual similarities aren't direct confirmation
See: Ansha is Darkrai theory ||

[uneven turret]

||I lost to mega scovillain and the mega dimension portal disappeared how do I get the scovilite||

[red ocean]

|| this confirms that they're related as early as the beginning of the dlc lol ||

[uneven turret]

||Cuz I love scovillain and really want the mega and don’t know what to do lol||

[wispy kernel]

||To get the Scovillainite, defeat the Mega Scovillain. Just keep bench resetting until it appears again||

[uneven turret]

||Oh ok, cuz I knew I had to beat the scovillain to get it yeah the portal just hasn’t reappeared for me yet||

||Thanks||

||Ok so I found an unidentified mega stone thinking it was scovillain but I found mega chimecho lol||

[sturdy flower]

surely the gameplay loop isn't just ||visit different rifts, fight the rogue, repeat|| for the entire time right?

[desert current]

Is that sort of thing not what they did in the main story? Visit the battle zones, fight the rank match, fight the rogue mega, repeat...

[sturdy flower]

@uneven turret lol i found ||mega scovillain||

[sturdy flower]

yeah but at least there were other things to do sometimes

especially in the later ranks

here it's honestly boring

i hope i don't gotta do it until the end of the dlc

[desert current]

That was also true for the main story.

It'll probably get more interesting in the later half.

[velvet forum]

||HE SHOOTS HIS FISTS AS AN ATTACK||

[charred sage]

||and now we know why both it and crabdominable (who's base form can also do that according to the dex) got megas rofl||

[dusk isle]

I just started the DLC and this is my first Hyperspace shiny

[velvet forum]

its cute name it pickle

👍

[indigo mango]

huh ||garchomp z is so boring wtf, like its genually so uninteresting i cant||

[velvet forum]

and the fact it loses a typing 🫩💔

[robust wren]

||all it needs now is to turn into the cannon form for special attacks and it will have reached critical levels of rule of cool||

[velvet forum]

yes

[indigo mango]

thats also pretty boring looking

[wispy kernel]

hey guys how are yall doing on collecting ||Gimmighoul Coins||

[wispy kernel]

I have 736 rn

[robust wren]

||Hot take: Mega Darkrai only looks good in one specific situation: being viewed from the front with its head tucked away. In all other situations it looks like a weird fish person with a tiny head||

[velvet forum]

this gotta be ragebait lol

That shit looks perfect

[wispy kernel]

internet users when opinions

[sturdy flower]

haven't played much, 214

[sturdy flower]

not a hot take, i agree

it fucking sucks 99% of the time

[velvet forum]

how the hell does that look boring

[sturdy flower]

it's incredibly they managed to fuck it up

[wispy kernel]

theres a guy who has a side quest who’ll give you several hundred and a ||gimmighoul||

[wispy kernel]

I like it. I’m just saying its subjective

[indigo mango]

its just ||Golurk but with some effects on it...which look weird too||

[velvet forum]

When M ||Tastsugiri|| exists 💔

[wispy kernel]

it doesnt change too much from the original, just adding some new effects to it, so thats a reason I could understand not liking it

[wispy kernel]

that guy is awesome what are you on about

[sturdy flower]

oh fr? where?

[velvet forum]

um it literally is breaking out of its seal and has freaking wings?!

[sturdy flower]

is it post game?

[velvet forum]

its like 4 fish and thats it

[sturdy flower]

3

[indigo mango]

could have made the wings look good i guess

[wispy kernel]

its super early

Mission 122

For comparison, base game has 119

[velvet forum]

i think its less of its a bad mega and more like you just dont like the pokemon to begin with

[indigo mango]

i love Golurk

also when did i say bad

i said its boring

[sturdy flower]

oh awesome

[velvet forum]

To be fair

thats like

half of the megas in the game

more than half

[indigo mango]

ok?

[velvet forum]

so dont blame my guy if he wasnt all you expected 💔

[indigo mango]

"its not murder if multiple people have killed someone" ahh logic. a mega can be boring even if more then 1 is

[velvet forum]

thats

not even close to the logic i was applying

but sure.

wtv you say vro

[indigo mango]

i mean thats kinda the line here, i can def blame them for being a boring design lul, there being multiple you think are boring doesnt change that

[wispy kernel]

holy shit I think I just found the funniest side quest ever

[velvet forum]

wtf is “lul”

[indigo mango]

lol but u

[wispy kernel]

||You and Jacinthe vs Hologram Jacinthe and Lebanne|| (DLC postgame side quest btw)

[indigo mango]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-za-legends-za-legends-z-a-pokemon-legends-za-gif-12357453454732212066

[willow kelp]

Damn, accidentally used a alpha boost donut, but all spawn in zone resetted when fast travelling, so shiny hunt was amazing

[indigo mango]

i think i am missing around 3 side missions to have all (niot counting dlc missions)

I am missing the one where you gotta do a fight with an Auraros, the Furfrou League and the Jacinthe Battle Royal

[wispy kernel]

||Mega Golurk swept tbh, it ohkoed like everything lol||

[velvet forum]

so goated

[little nacelle]

||ANGE CAN'T HIT ARIADOS||

ARIADOS IS TOO SMALL

LMFAO

[velvet forum]

lol

[limber owl]

Lots of pokemon learned new moves...
Roserade only learned ||Base 45 Phys attack Mortal Spin||

What am I supposed to do with this 😭

[little nacelle]

wait

is kecleon in the game

[limber owl]

No clue

[little nacelle]

i saw someone post that kecleon got conversion and conversion2 and i PRAY that isn't the case

that's LITERALLY one of the most absolutely stupid things you can do considering ITS FIRST ABILITY CHANGES ITS TYPING WHEN IT'S HIT

and the SECOND ONE changes your typing to match your stab

[wispy kernel]

||yes||

[little nacelle]

Does it learn conversion.

[wispy kernel]

||By level up 😭||

[little nacelle]

HAVE THEY GONE CRAZY

[wispy kernel]

It might just be for this game so it can. yknow. change type

cuz no ability yknow

[velvet forum]

when my pokemon is a pokemon so i pokemon with it

[robust wren]

||I wish I understood blender animation, cause I so badly wanna make a meme of Mega Scovillain laughing at Haxorus, Slowking, Clawitzer, Flygon, and Charizard (cause no Z) like that meme of Piranha Plant laughing at characters that didn't get into Smash Ultimate ||

[sturdy flower]

how do i get ||the different character's clothes||

[indigo mango]

i have been spoiled on another mega

oofies

[sturdy flower]

i know you can get||ivor and canari's for sure||

[wispy kernel]

quests

[sturdy flower]

the rift side quests?

[indigo mango]

||mega snow crab now...i will say not bad BUT i think it look cooler if all 4 of its legs became ice spikes and not only its hind legs, the front legs just dangling in the air looks off||

[wispy kernel]

||I just got Canari’s. like literally two seconds ago||

[wispy kernel]

yea

[sturdy flower]

the ones where ||you fight in doubles against them||

[wispy kernel]

In the DLC’s Post Game, ||You can also get secondary colors for them||

[sturdy flower]

alright awesome

damn

can't wait to finish the dlc man

[indigo mango]

also dlc must not be long if everyone here is chatting about postgame

[wispy kernel]

it took me 11 hours straight of playing with no breaks

to finish it

[indigo mango]

ah yikes

[little nacelle]

ARIADOS :DDD

ARIADOS MY GOAT

[wispy kernel]

I forgot that Tarragon ||made “Canari Bread”||

thats crazy

[little nacelle]

from earlier

[wispy kernel]

||You also get their hair styles too it seems||

[sturdy flower]

NAH

that's awesome

[wispy kernel]

Only for the bosses of the groups it seems 😔

||I wish I could dress up as Gwynn 😔 but Canari works too||

THAT IS ACTUALLY SICK AS HELL

I’m about to test if level 200 is the cap or if it can go further cuz I got a donut for +120 levels

[willow kelp]

Damn

[scenic fable]

|| Can you change that hair color from the outfits, curious because I want brown ver of Ivor's hair soooo bad ||

[wispy kernel]

I have not checked yet actually

[sturdy flower]

why the fuck aren't they letting me dress like ||lebanne||

[wispy kernel]

I KNOW RIGHT

I WISH I COULD SO BAD

[sturdy flower]

yooo

[runic peak]

Lmao rip

[scenic fable]

Yesssss let's go

[robust wren]

||Been reading through more dex entries to see if there's any new craziness, and apparently Mega Chimecho gives people amnesia ||

[wispy kernel]

heres me attempting to get the colors as close to the originals as possible

some are. better than others

[willow kelp]

|| wait, how tf do you go from meowstic to a fking heatran ||

[wispy kernel]

ok yeah 200 is the cap

[hazy knot]

||I just got to heatran lol||

literally just caught it rn

[wispy kernel]

I have all level 100 pokemon, used a donut that has +120 levels, still just level 200

not level 220

[willow kelp]

Trying to beat it now

|| how do you dodge the fking explosives and beam||

[wispy kernel]

run around like a madman and pray

thats what I did

[willow kelp]

Haha guess I need to practice my prayer

[robust wren]

||According to the Pokedex, Mega Raichu X can now be considered to have stronger powescaling than Ash's Pikachu. Pikachu's strongest move is ten million volt thunderbolt, but Megachu X's voltage goes up to 50 million. Cause Gamefreak loves big numbers.||

[charred sage]

||reminds me of the trading card game where I think it's cleffa just has a move named "eek!" and every time it gets a new card eek just gets more E's||

[willow kelp]

Prayers worked 🎉

[robust wren]

||Mega Golurk is literally just a bomb. Mega evolving messed with it's core and it's constantly on the verge of blowing up||

[runic peak]

||ooh i wanna see the new mega dex entries||

||i only saw zeraora's, heatran's and darkrai's when they were leaked||

[robust wren]

||they're over on Serebii||

[runic peak]

thx

[runic peak]

||i remember when i saw darkrai's, it talked about it's evil eye and i was really interested to know what that'd be||

||what we got is absolutely NOT what i expected (absolutely better than what i expected though)||

[solar oriole]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mv5aTRmogk ||

[runic peak]

||lmao absol z's entry is like dragonite||

[runic peak]

||Oh hell nah I thought this was exaggerating, the dex literally says it could explode at any moment 😭||

[indigo mango]

getting really annoyed with people not spoilering stuff, got spoiled on another mega

[runic peak]

Oh you should have spoilered that

[solar oriole]

How?

[indigo mango]

didnt mean them btw, the megas in that thumbnail i already got spoiled on lul

[runic peak]

put || around the text

[runic peak]

Still just in case

[indigo mango]

ye

[runic peak]

||like this||

[indigo mango]

the new 2 i got spoiled on where ||snow crab and golisopod||

[runic peak]

damn

[indigo mango]

closed twatter now lul, i forgot i already bought the dlc so imma play it after work tomorrow

[runic peak]

Honestly I never cared about getting spoiled because I don't even have a nintendo console I thought I wasn't gonna play the game
But now I'm actually gonna get a switch 2 and legends za so I kinda regret it

still don't mind seeing spoilers of the dlc because I'm not getting it though

||these dex entries man, lemme write one for mega shedinja
it can contain 10 billion souls
Gamefreak hire me||

[robust wren]

||The game: Don't worry, only Megas that were mega evolved against their will are in any pain. If you and your mega evolved buddy have a strong enough bond, it's completely harmless for them!"||
||Mega Golurk: 💀||

[runic peak]

||we're never escaping the alola mega dex entries 😭||

[limber owl]

Megas Spoiled to me so far
||Crabomidable|| ||Staraptor|| ||Mega Absol Z|| ||Golurk?||

Hope there's more megas left to discover by myself...

[wispy kernel]

at least you didnt get Mega Cramorant C+ spoiled

[limber owl]

1st one traumatized a lot of early players so people have been posting about it

The Pokemon Fighting Game account for Close Combat spoiled the 2nd by drawing it and not hitting any of my muted words

3rd one was an Art Account questioning why people complaining about this pokemon

4th one... I just saw a lot of ||Golurk|| activity going on, not sure if it's a Mega

But it has Fissure now

oh no

TPCI PLEASE
TAKE THIS AWAY FROM THEM LIKE YOU DID WITH ICE BEAM ON GARDEVOIR

[robust wren]

With all the hoops Gamefreak jumped through to make sure No Guard Fissure Machamp was impossible, I'm sure they'll do the same here

[limber owl]

Keep Mortal Spin on Roserade please
It's like the only new move you gave her...

[limber owl]

||Tatsugiri||...
IT DIDN'T EVEN HAVE MEGA OR POKEMON ON THE POST

And I can't even rant online about this because the last time I did SOMEONE COMMENTED ALL THE MEGAS WITH PICTURES

[wispy kernel]

hey guys does anybody have any idea what mega this is

I’m trying to figure out so I don’t get my ass beat when I go fight it

[robust wren]

||Staraptor||

[lime void]

That’s mega ||Staraptor||

[wispy kernel]

ohhhhhhh yeah actually yeah that def is

thanks

[robust wren]

||extra heads up, it's a fighting type now||

[wispy kernel]

I know that already this is a rematch

gotta get the berries for ||Groudon and Kyogre|| somehow

I lost horribly because I had only a really shitty donut

[opaque osprey]

ok lmao, was travelling to a Side mission when I encountered a Shiny snorunt

[opaque osprey]

Damn after getting shiny charm, Shinies keep on popping up

[frank lily]

reminds me, I def do not have that charm yet, but I did go through an alley and hear the shiny sound. took me a while to find it

if you know the spot where there is a tree in a little area that has like 4 or 5 kakuna on it, that was where a shiny kakuna was hiding

my older brother had something similar happen when he kept hearing the sound when going through an alley in his game. took him a long while to realise a trubbish in that alley was shiny

[steel zealot]

so there is new clothes and hair in the DLC?

[jade ocean]

Buddy it has 164 SpA and 151 Speed with Nasty Plot and the resists to get it off, it don't matter that its STABs have 80 BP

[frank lily]

I have no idea which mon you are talking about but just reading that line makes me agree

[jade ocean]

Guaranteed Poison, at least. Does it still clear Stealth Rocks, Spikes, Tspikes, Sticky Web etc?

[limber owl]

It should probably
But I haven't seen it in game yet

You know, Roserade is a Dancer
Why doesn't it know Sword Dance or Quiver Dance?

[frank lily]

'The user attacks by spinning about. This leaves targets poisoned and also increases the user's movement speed for a short time.' move description for Mortal Spin says this

[limber owl]

Ooo

[frank lily]

increased movement speed combined with the 100% poison sounds pretty good in Z-A

also I have no idea if the distance fully matters but it says here the distance range is 1-99

[limber owl]

Eh

1-99?

[frank lily]

yeah I have no idea

I am still learning how far some attacks go

learned I def don't like Rock Tomb

[jade ocean]

I imagine that means it attacks around the user when activated at far distances and the user won't run towards the opponent to use the move

But I may be stupid

[frank lily]

also in gen IX Mortal spin didn't clear hazards. it cleared stuff like wrap, bind, and leech seed

[jade ocean]

It literally does

I know this for a fact because that's literally the entire reason Glimmora runs it

If it didn't clear hazards the move would be worthless dogshit

[frank lily]

huh, guess I need to use a different site to learn about more indepth stuff for moves cause Serebii only talks about bine, wrap, and leech seed being removed

[jade ocean]

I can be easily gaslit but you aren't gaslighting me for the signature move of a Pokemon that I have actually used

[frank lily]

when Mortal Spin is used

[jade ocean]

OK but seriously it is ridiculous how easily I can be made to doubt my own knowledge

[robust wren]

It's a Water Bubble thing where the move description doesn't say everything

Especially in this case where what's omitted is the most relevant thing

[frank lily]

I am not trying to gaslight anyone. just reading stuff how I see it. I did use a Glimmora before but never used the move in a battle that had hazards

[limber owl]

I'm getting used to Sludge Bomb
It's slow and lobs but it's strong

[robust wren]

Seriously, who wrote the description of Water Bubble

[jade ocean]

I never said you had the intention of doing so tbf

[robust wren]

"This ability boosts the power of Water moves by ×2? Bah, clearly people will only care about the burn immunity"

[frank lily]

I learned rock tomb is not good to use when in an area that has a lot of objects

[jade ocean]

You don't get it, clearly the immunity to burn is far superior to the literal doubled damage

[frank lily]

rock tends to land right on top of objects instead of the enemy

[jade ocean]

Especially since Araquanid is a physical attacker

[limber owl]

Let me guess

Lamps?

[frank lily]

those little info booth things and bushes

[limber owl]

Ah, I'm playing ranked so the Lamps are the only obstacles for my attacks

[frank lily]

also the amount of times rock tomb made the rock land directly in front of or directly behind the enemy mon made me hate it more

[jade ocean]

Gamefreak really gave Araquanid this as the base ability and then gave it fuckinf WATER ABSORB as the HA as if any sane person is taking Water Absorb over Water Bubble

[limber owl]

Good thing Leaf Storm goes through

I can one shot a Garchomp with Growth +Leaf Storm hehehe

[frank lily]

I think when I go to play my Legends Z-A game later I am going to do a chill hunt for a shiny venipede. I still need to do main story stuff, but I don't want my alpha scoliopede anymore. it's too beeg

I watched him try to attack a small Pokemon that was directly in front of him and his attacks sailed over it

literally a case of David vs Goliath and Goliath was missing the attacks

while his ankles were getting nibbled at

[robust wren]

||I took another look through the Mega stats and I'm Amazed at how they basically just made Mega Staraptor a Megalucha sidegrade. It will probably see a tiny bit more value thanks to Intimidate making switching in and Mega evolving a bit easier, but either way one of these two is probably getting overshadowed ||

[frank lily]

as a random question, if I want an electric type should I do that trade later for the alolan raichu to have on my team? part of me kinda wants to use it but at the same time I am unsure if I do want an electric type on my team or not

also no I do not have the dlc so any dlc related electric megas are out for now

currently got the electric eel on my team

[jade ocean]

I've heard that only Overqwil gets Mortal Spin in the Qwilfish line, can someone confirm if that's true and that neither of the Qwilfish get it?

[frank lily]

I just checked and yea

only the evolved one gets Mortal Spin

both Quilfish types don't get it

both Quilfish types learn Gunk Shot as their last move while Overqwil will get Mortal Spin 3 levels after learning Gunk Shot

[jade ocean]

I see, alright then

A bit unfortunate that the 2 defensive members of the line don't get Mortal Spin but the offensive one does

[icy flax]

re:update:
||if the research i've done is correct, you can find more gimmighoul in 5 star gates||

[jade ocean]

Spoilers for the new Megas have already started popping up on my YT feed

It's a good thing that I do not care

[frank lily]

yeah I mean same. I don't mind spoilers

I just know I am not going to get the dlc that soon

so if I see stuff about it, it's fine

[robust wren]

I've already born witness to the forbidden knowledge, so I remain unaffected by its appearance out and about
RIP to anyone who tried to avoid spoilers just for the old Prosafia gaming jumpscare tho

||"The emotions Magearna had begun to feel now hide away as it fells foe after foe." Christ almighty, Pokedex. Chill out.||

[frank lily]

pft

as a random thing, for me I didn't care if I saw stuff that would spoil the game or what not. I could have watched playthroughs if I wanted. I was just too lazy to do so

too lazy to avoid spoilers, and too lazy to watch stuff about it

the ultimate power

[robust wren]

Honestly I can't find myself caring too much over trying to keep the plot details of any non-Mystery Dungeon Pokémon game a surprise for myself. Even moreso for the actual Pokémon cause I like to see the kind of stuff I would potentially be using

[frank lily]

samee

I know for Scarlet I looked at what new pokemon would be in there so I could have a team of just new Pokemon

for Legends Z-A I just looked at what new megas there are and got ideas for a few teammates

and for the starter pick

[tawdry flame]

where can I find the || gimmighoul quest||

[robust wren]

||Figured I would leave a tier list of how I see all of ZA's new Megas now that I've seen all of them and have found a tierlist that includes the DLC ones||

||Mega Absol Z is higher than everyone else cause it's just so ironically amusing to me.||

[frank lily]

I like your placements of Mega Chesnaught and Mega Scoliopede

[robust wren]

||shout out to Mega Glimmora for making me effectively relieve the experience that made me love Glimmora to begin with. With regular Glimmora, I just saw its curled up form and thought it was lame, then I fell in love with it when it unfurled its "petals." With Mega Glimmora I thought it's design was underwhelming, then I actually saw it in motion and immediately I loved it again. Something about Glimmora just clicks for me and I don't know what it is.||

[frank lily]

I like Mega Scoliopede purely because it's a mega of one of my fav bug types, my other fav being the Joltik line, and seeing it become a tanky bug thing is fun

[steel zealot]

Get my boy feraligatr off the trash tier

[frank lily]

I am using Feraligator purely because the water/dragon typing it's mega gets is useful

also I just prefer totodile as a starter over the other two

[robust wren]

Gen 5 bugs are just awesome

[frank lily]

yasss

[robust wren]

Crazy how most other generations have Bug Pokémon basically be throwaway additions but they absolutely locked in for Gen 5

[frank lily]

I would def ride a Scoliopede, or an Alpha one, into battle while having a Galvantula clinging to my back

and the two bugs that are my fav are both the largest ones and smallest

I did try and shiny hunt for a shiny Joltik in Scarlet's dlc but it was impossible for me to see

ended up hunting for Scarlet's Volcarona paradox mon instead

[robust wren]

I wanna post the tier list link so other people can make their own, but I'm not sure if putting the link in spoiler brackets also puts the spoiler guard over that popup thing Discrd does with links

[jade ocean]

Exactly!

[jade ocean]

It shouldn't directly show the new Megas though, right?

You could just add a warning that the list does include DLC Megas

And that you shouldn't click on it if you don't want to get spoiled

[worn cobalt]

Me looking epic (cropped pic, but spoils some dlc end game content)

Also, found Frog's next project...

Finally ready for my takeover. Featuring Shari the dancing shiny Ekans.

Been avoiding discord to avoid spoilers, but I think I made it far enough I'm good.

[frank lily]

I'm just walking about wild area 5 rn

[worn cobalt]

Dat place got bugs and Bellsprout.

[frank lily]

ye

lowkey 'hunting' for shiny venipede

but really lowkey

I def don't have the charm

[worn cobalt]

Shiny hunt Froakie instead by fast traveling to area 5. You'll get a shiny veni on accident.

[frank lily]

I am not far enough in for froakie

[worn cobalt]

Probably faster than if you intentionally hunt for veni.

[frank lily]

I have 10 wild areas unlocked atm

[worn cobalt]

Oh

Well, GL then.

[frank lily]

yee

think my odds are fine since I did find a shiny magikarp when I first explored wild area 2

[worn cobalt]

Noice.

[frank lily]

mhmm, I do have an alpha scoliopede on my team rn, but he's too beeg

[jade ocean]

Yknow it just registered to me

Keldeo and Melmetal are in ZA

So are they actually obtainable?

Or are they gonna be events or a trade or something

Same with Zera

And Hoopa

And Darkrai

And I know Genesect's here too

[sturdy flower]

isn't darkrai ||the final boss||

[jade ocean]

And Magearna

And Meloetta

[sturdy flower]

you can get her

BRO

calm down

[jade ocean]

And presumably Volcanion

[jade ocean]

I'm perfectly calm

I'm just asking

Are these obtainable straight up or only via events

[noble ice]

Can anyone help me out with some trade evolution Pokémon

[velvet forum]

They havent really done like event mons its just new side quests

[jade ocean]

So all of those Pokemon I listed are fully obtainable?

[velvet forum]

Not yet

except for darkrai and magearna

and zeraora

[jade ocean]

So what you're saying is that they're gonna be events

[velvet forum]

No

future side quests

like mewtwo and diancie are

[jade ocean]

Those 2 are triggered by events

Though I'm not sure if their events have an end date

I dont think Pecharunt's does either

[velvet forum]

Nope not an event bc the mystery gifts dont expire since they are via internet

[jade ocean]

Death to all events where you have to travel across the fucking globe to get something

Lfg

Me when I need to book a flight to America if I want to get a Pokemon:

[frank lily]

could be plans for later like the current internet events that add new side missions

[velvet forum]

The side quests trigger once u get the mega stone via internet and they have no expiration date i hope its like this from now on

[jade ocean]

Yippee I can't wait for my forced vacation to Japan

(Yeah no those sorts of events are ass)

[velvet forum]

I really hope home transfer is available before feb

[jade ocean]

So yeah if these Diancie and M2 events do actually have like

[velvet forum]

i wanna get my shiny ray into ZA

[jade ocean]

0 end date

And none of the newer events do

[velvet forum]

Yeah like i said they arent events

[jade ocean]

We are so fucking back

[velvet forum]

events have expirations

[jade ocean]

Iirc you can't transfer Pokemon out of ZA

[velvet forum]

Shite

I dont wanna transfer me rayray then

[frank lily]

just to be safe I made a second game using a profile I had used to complete all of the Scarlet Pokedex on so I could get those two internet event things collected now just in case the events do end

[jade ocean]

Bulbapedia directly refers to Mochi Mayhem as an indefinite event

[velvet forum]

It would be dope bc he has stellar tera type and he would also have access to mega canonically strongest shiny rayquaza

[jade ocean]

I think you're thinking of Champions, not ZA

[frank lily]

I miss the linking cords from legends arceus

[velvet forum]

Nope my shiny event rayquaza from ZA

i mean scvi

[jade ocean]

You

[velvet forum]

yeah they were cool i hated the satchel collection

[jade ocean]

You can't Tera in ZA

Also, if Mega Rayquaza being unable to use Z Moves is any indicator, I doubt it'd be able to Terastalise or Dynamax either

[velvet forum]

I know i just said like he has stellar type and if i transferred him to za hed have a mega so like technically he’d be the most powerful ray bc in paldea bros any type and in kalos hes mega

[jade ocean]

Stellar Tera is absolute dogshit though

[velvet forum]

No it isnt

[jade ocean]

Literally Tera Flying would probably be better on Mega Rayquaza

[velvet forum]

gives stab to any move

[frank lily]

once

once a battle

[limber owl]

ADIAHSASPOASJASOASJA THESE THUMBNAILS!

[jade ocean]

Not even STAB iirc, it's a 1.3× boost

[velvet forum]

nope stab

[jade ocean]

Oh my god it's even worse than 1.3

It's 1.2

Abysmal Dogshit

[velvet forum]

what does this have to do with za vro 💔

[limber owl]

Saw Mega ||Magearna|| There were 3 others but I already got spoiled from the 2nd and didn't see the other 2 properly before I blocked it

[jade ocean]

Unfortunate

[velvet forum]

i think mega ||magearna|| is lowkey subpar design wise

[limber owl]

That's 6 Megas already spoiled

[velvet forum]

they coulda done more with it

[jade ocean]

Why is Tera Stellar so ass actually like wtf

[velvet forum]

want another spoiled

[limber owl]

NO

STOP PLEASE

[velvet forum]

lol im jp

[limber owl]

I REALLY WANT TO EXPERIENCE NEW MEGAS MYSELF

I wasn't able to at base game

[velvet forum]

probably shouldnt be watching pokemon videos or hanging out in pokemon discords

[limber owl]

People kept sharing EVERYWHERE

[velvet forum]

if u dont want spoilers

[limber owl]

This place does || so I'm fine

[frank lily]

'What the Stellar type does is give a special boost to Same Type Attack Boost of your move. Every move of a type gets a small boost for the first time that type move is used by the Pokémon in battle. This is in addition to any STAB that the Pokémon has.

If a move doesn't match the Pokémon's base types it will get a 20% boost in the damage for the first time that move's type is used. So if a Galarian Zapdos uses Throat Chop, it'd get a 20% boost for that first usage but no extra boost for any other usage, and if it then went to go for Knock Off, Knock Off also wouldn't get the boost.
If a move matches the Pokémon's base type, then like standard Terastallization, it will get a 100% boost bringing it to double, much like when you Terastallize into the type the Pokémon already is. After the first use it will return to its standard 50% boost.'

[velvet forum]

not everyone does

[jade ocean]

They aren't watching videos, they're getting spoiled by thumbnails

[limber owl]

But I didn't even watch any Pokemon videos for the past few days

[jade ocean]

But yeah no there's like 2 Pokemon that would realistically run Tera Stellar

And one is Terapagos

[frank lily]

the only mon Stellar type is good for is Terapagos and will always have it's moves boosted

[jade ocean]

WHO IS FORCED TO RUN TERA STELLAR

The other is Enamorus

And it's because of a particularly dumb effect it has on Tera Blast

[velvet forum]

so it isnt even bad idk what yall talking ab

[jade ocean]

It makes Tera Blast decent amount stronger

[frank lily]

but any other Pokemon that has the Stellar type the moves will only be boosted once per battle if the type doesn't match the mon's original typing

[jade ocean]

But makes it lower Attack and SpA

[frank lily]

meaning if you had like a pure fire type using a grass move the move is boosted, but the next time it tries to use that move, there is no boost

[jade ocean]

So basically, if you don't have Contrary, you are never using Tera Stellar Blast

[velvet forum]

I literally only run it on my rayquaza cuz it looks cool

[jade ocean]

And even if you have Contrary, your movepool is so ass that most of the time you're running another Tera Type for SE damage

[velvet forum]

idrc if its bad

[jade ocean]

Like Tera Rock/Fire/Ground on Serperior

[velvet forum]

Space dragon with a rainbow turtle hat

[jade ocean]

Enamorus is the 1 Contrary user whose movepool isn't too dogshit to abuse Tera Stellar Blast

[velvet forum]

Enamourus lowkey sucks

Also fairy/flying type might be one of the worst combos

you know whats crazy

we still didnt get any new dual types in ZA

im waiting for a fire fairy

[frank lily]

Well Mega Meganium turns into Grass/Fairy

[velvet forum]

that was already a thing tho

[jade ocean]

Yeah I could see them having been able to add a new dual type, but I'm not exactly too surprised that they didn't

I mean what could they have added, realistically

[velvet forum]

whimsicott

[frank lily]

oh I thought you meant the new megas changing/adding to the typing of the mon nvm

[velvet forum]

theres still like 8 type combinations that havent been done

[jade ocean]

Yeah but look at the roster of Pokemon in the game

And ask yourself if any of them could've gotten a Mega with a unique type combo

[velvet forum]

Tbf you can make an arguement mega emboar coulda been fire fairy

[jade ocean]

???

[velvet forum]

thing looks whimsical

fairies dont need to be like

a feminine design

[jade ocean]

I mean yeah they don't but literally nothing about Mega Emboar suggests any type but Fire/Fighting

[velvet forum]

fairy type is supposed to represent anything thats like magical looking

[frank lily]

I kinda find it funny that Mega Feraligator is mimicking Regidrago

[velvet forum]

the fact it has a staff and its fire looks like wings?

[frank lily]

Regidraco? whichever that dragon regi was called

[jade ocean]

I dont even know how to respond to this in a way that would actually end the argument because I don't think there's any way I can convince you that this is ridiculous if you believe it in the first place

[velvet forum]

i hate how everyone overlooked regidrago

bc of regieleki

i felt like drago was cooler

[jade ocean]

Alright so we have 4 fucking Normal type pairings

Which nobody is gonna care about