||And I still don't know what the thing on its head is||
#pokemon-winds-waves
willow kelp
It's description would lead me to think it is mostly a physical attacker 😅
Which would be weird with mega launcher
Btw, most new megas grow on me, but that damn mega Dragonite had so much potential and I hate it so much 😅
gritty ibex
Why does it have a better shiny than meowstic tho
I dont like the yellow on both
This lil guy going on my team
daring finch
Thats just mega drampa palette
hazy knot
Thats just mega drampa palette
No
fickle birch
It's not the Mega Drampa palette, because it's the Mega Zeraora palette! 😛
unborn elm
https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-legends-z-a-plza-zygarde-mega-zygarde-gif-5222551161303211136
vocal helm
@gritty ibex Ikr I wished they’d made the shiny pink like espurr
sage anvil
hello
gritty ibex
Personally prefer green but thats good
sage anvil
someone pls trade to evolve my haunter ples
vocal helm
@gritty ibex Welp time to put it in the fix it’s shiny chat
shrewd hearth
Personally prefer green but thats good
Hello fellow piplup enjoyer
gritty ibex
Hello fellow piplup enjoyer
Hello
vocal helm
Hoi
fast cypress
Mega Raichu's stat prediction
lime void
Mega Raichu's stat prediction
So you predict that their stats won’t change at all?
fast cypress
So you predict that their stats won’t change at all?
second colum, click on the images
plucky escarp
-# click the images
autumn shore
That mega lucario Z is more like a regional variant than a mega evolution tbf
tired crane
I got a shalpha Heracross
gritty ibex
Those are tuff shinies
vocal helm
@gritty ibex Tuff?
vocal helm
@gritty ibex Oh lol
radiant otter
finally got my shiny cleffa after 3 shiny clefairy
vocal helm
@radiant otter awwwwwww so cute!!!
tired crane
finally got my shiny cleffa after 3 shiny clefairy
Congrats!
Bro it's horrible that they make Gardevoir run away
It's a final stage evolution- a powerful special attacker, why is it a coward?
split hedge
Nice
plucky scroll
i may be late for this but uh, be honest, yall see the resemblence right?
jade ocean
"Watashi miku miku oo ee oo"
- The new Mega, probably
split hedge
Does it like Galarians?
supple fern
192 battles to go
supple fern
i may be late for this but uh, be honest, yall see the resemblence right?
Mega Charizard Z:
ivory veldt
So like, if the Rust Syndicate is just a buncha people doing menial work around the city to pay off debts, what the hell happened with that one member's brother tho. " " The eyes! Go for the eyes!" Those were my brother's last words..."
LIKE ARE YOU OKAY MY GUY???
surreal belfry
It's a final stage evolution- a powerful special attacker, why is it a coward?
Surprised me too ralts sure but gardevoir
surreal belfry
i may be late for this but uh, be honest, yall see the resemblence right?
It reminds me of urshifu
lime void
Mega Charizard Z:
wispy kernel
So like, if the Rust Syndicate is just a buncha people doing menial work around ...
they are also very much doing illegal shit too
like no matter how many good deeds they do. its still the motherfucking yakuza
ivory veldt
I dunno man, worst thing they do is put people in debt.
... Like I don't even remember if they mentioned any kind of retaliation or consequences to not doing the work? But I might just not remember.
Aside from More Debt™
lime void
they are also very much doing illegal shit too
Proof?
worn cobalt
Trying to fly area 19 to see if I can get more Eevees. idk how many can spawn in the range of the warp spot.
I need... let's see... four more shiny eevees for my living dex?
worn cobalt
Proof?
If they are doing illegal stuff, they're doing a real good job of keeping it on the dl from the cops.
As it is explicitly stated the cops have never taken action against them.
Though, i suspect there are no laws about contract extortion.
robust wren
You think the Rust Syndicate is rubbing shoulders with Quazartico purely out of the good of their heart?
With how formal Jett and Corbeau are with each other it wouldn't shock me if she convinced Lumiose authorities to look the other way in regards to the syndicate
worn cobalt
TBH, it seems from the story that Corbeau is more likely to have financed some of Quasartico's operations than is to actually be involved otherwise. Jett and Corbeau are formal because Jett is a stalwart business woman who exemplifies the best qualities of such, and Corbeau is formal because being "nice" makes him more intimidating.
IMO, Corbeau is the kind of guy who exudes confidence because it makes his life easier, not because he's confident or wants to be. If you stand up tall, you can convince a bear you are bigger than it.* It's similar, where he stands tough to make it seem like he's so powerful, which makes people bend to his will just like that.
*I make no guarantees a bear will yeild if you act bigger. Try at your own risk.
worn cobalt
Legitimate question. Does anyone want any shinies? I have so many I'm probably going to have to start releasing them so I have room for the DLC mons. 
ivory veldt
The only thing keeping me going with these 1000 battles is that I'm using the money to by All The Clothes
storm bone
Shiny spinarak
I’m at least at my 6th shiny and I don’t have a shiny charm yet, never gotten that much without a charm
worn cobalt
I have... 
400+ extra shinies? Anyone want?
fickle birch
I hope Mega Raichu X uses its tails to bounce around, which could result in it having a high Speed stat. 😄
supple fern
104 battles left!
supple fern
I’m at least at my 6th shiny and I don’t have a shiny charm yet, never gotten th...
I got about 20+ without the charm. Including a Shalpha Skiddo and Haunter
storm bone
Nice
unborn elm
I have around a full box and like 3 shinies in my box
Including a shalpha flechinder, shalpha scolipede, shalpha beedrill, shalpha gallade, and shalpha slowbro
Which is a lot of shalphas
Considering I only ever had 1 shalpha found before za came out
jaunty comet
I have... <:Thonking:750466447339421716> 400+ extra shinies? Anyone want?
Finally got your shiny living dex done i see? Or close at least
fickle birch
I have... <:Thonking:750466447339421716> 400+ extra shinies? Anyone want?
I do! ❤️
willow kelp
I have... <:Thonking:750466447339421716> 400+ extra shinies? Anyone want?
Happen to have garchomp line? 😅
tired crane
What's the best way to get shiny fennekin?
tired crane
Bummer
worn cobalt
What's the best way to get shiny fennekin?
There's a bench you can auto bench to get it, if you have the tools.
tired crane
Yeah I have tried to do that but it takes forever
worn cobalt
Happen to have garchomp line? 😅
No, looking for them myself. Sorry.
Maybe I'm lucky, I get them pretty quick, relatively speaking.
worn cobalt
Finally got your shiny living dex done i see? Or close at least
Nope. Eevee has netted me a bunch of phases. 😅
jaunty comet
Nope. Eevee has netted me a bunch of phases. 😅
Well hey, if you've got any additional shinies i wouldn't mind adopting a few of them. Whenever you have time, mind sending your box pics in our dm and I can give you the usual?
worn cobalt
Sounds good. Let me organize them.
tired crane
Nope. Eevee has netted me a bunch of phases. 😅
Eevee is annoying to try to get-
I got my shiny eevee on accident
which is so frustrating because when I was trying really hard I didn't get it
willow kelp
No, looking for them myself. Sorry.
No worries
worn cobalt
Okay, down a bunch of shinies. Feeling good.
shrewd hearth
I have... <:Thonking:750466447339421716> 400+ extra shinies? Anyone want?
Sure I'll take em all no problem
-# just buy me a switch 2, Pokemon ZA and Nintendo online 
lime void
You can play Z-A on switch 1
storm bone
Finally got the shiny charm , I’m at 67h of playtime but finally got it
inland bobcat
clearly they are running out of idea.
tired crane
Finally got the shiny charm , I’m at 67h of playtime but finally got it
Congratulations! I did too!
lime void
Yep, 1000 battles for the shiny charm is nuts
jaunty comet
Banking on the fact that the dlc will add new challenges to get level 50
indigo mango
im at like level 33 after doing all quests and catching whatever i felt like
im not grinding that shit lul
getting E Floette was the most grinding imma do and that took me around 17 days
lime void
Banking on the fact that the dlc will add new challenges to get level 50
If it adds new challenges, odds are it will add new research levels as well
radiant otter
i was watching vandys video where he shiny hunted all the new megas, and when he got hawlucha mine showed up at the same time😭
i love him
worn cobalt
I need another shiny clefable now.
ivory veldt
I was looking for XS Ekans when I got a text and paused
The ending is just me losing my shit silently
ivory veldt
plucky escarp
ive come to the conclusion, that since the DLC is around the corner and im not playing ZA much, im going to bank on the DLC bringing enough new research tasks to not need 1k battles
fickle birch
Well hey, if you've got any additional shinies i wouldn't mind adopting a few of...
Having just seen the list, he does have very many additional ones. 😂
tired crane
ive come to the conclusion, that since the DLC is around the corner and im not p...
Good luck
plucky escarp
tbf if it doesnt, il just finish the battles when i have a reason to play more 😛
and the DLC will do that anyway
worn cobalt
tbf if it doesnt, il just finish the battles when i have a reason to play more �...
Hopefully there will be trainers in the hyper space
wispy kernel
Hopefully there will be trainers in the hyper space
I think there was at least one shown
in the trailer
worn cobalt
Reminds me of the DS era when they confirmed that the Pokemon multiverse exists. ||Also that each game cart was its own universe||
wispy kernel
that was 3ds not ds
worn cobalt
Eh, rounding error close enough.
jade ocean
charred sage
I forget if it was BW's entralink that did that or ORAS trying to justify its delta plot lol
wispy kernel
yeah zinnia just straight up says theres a multiverse its crazy
charred sage
I forget which one was the "every save file is its own universe" bit between BWB2W2, ORAS, and USUM lol
which I guess is a thing with most video games to some extent but you can't just say it outright because then absurd things happen with the lore lol
storm bone
Only did 10 reset and got a shiny froakie, sadly not shalpha so I gotta keep shunting
Immediately after that it runs away and I forgot to save
But at least there is a shiny falinks
storm bone
And an idiot also cuz forgot to save and it ran away
ivory veldt
I got the charm last night and tried a bit of farming and got the singular shiny in the area I wasn't interested in
Banana peel
... Though the mega's purple and green swirls look nice.
wispy kernel
I wanna get one
tired crane
I caught shiny Chespin!
lime void
I caught shiny Chespin!
Proof?
tired crane
Here she is
edgy palm
So I guess the Z Megas take less time to use moves but eat up mega energy very quickly... interesting.
tired crane
Interesting...
willow kelp
Only 4 days till dlc release right? I'm kind of excited 😅
indigo mango
still gotta get mewtwo but then i did everything i wanted to do in the game so can do the dlc
willow kelp
Mewtwo is smaller ingame then I imagined, but this might be because almost all other mons I use are alphas 😅
indigo mango
it also has a weird baby face
and i hate Mewtwo Y now,. which sucks cause it was my favorite ebfore but this model makes it look so ass
indigo mango
I like Y more but also kind of weird ingame
i emant Y
its so ugly now
X hasnt changed
Aura vs Tired Fetus
willow kelp
Yeah, was never that big a fan of either of the Mewtwo megas tbh
But still like Y more, but it's definitely a downgrade from that yeah
indigo mango
i mean to me it was just choosing who i like more between the 2
i just dont like mewtwo anyway lul
its the ugliest pokemon
actually nah Calyrex is but Mewtwo is right after
willow kelp
I don't know why but I like Mewtwo, might be because it was the first real legendary I used in the games
willow kelp
still gotta get mewtwo but then i did everything i wanted to do in the game so c...
I guess only things I have left to do is try and find two shalphas
Still want garchomp en absol I guess
Btw how can you get 6 alpha spawns in WZ 20? Can't get them over 4
surreal belfry
Here she is
Big Bertha
tired crane
Big Bertha
lol that's a great name
supple fern
Got to 1000 battles and got my charm after a couple of catches!
Tried going for Goomy but got a Magikarp after the rain ended
Went for Froakie and about 10 or so minutes later, I got a Medicham.
…..AND THE FROAKIE!
I saved the game so it won’t be lost if it flees
tired crane
Dude you're so lucky
Been trying to hunt Froakie for ages
At this point when I finally get him I'm gonna name him Kermit just to mess with him
I GOT ANOTHER SHINY EEVEE WHILE GOING FOR A MAGIKARP
LETS GOOO
noble ice
Can someone help me out with some trade evolution Pokémon?
lime compass
Firstly, leaks aren't allowed
They aren’t
lime compass
And secondly I think you misinterpreted something
What?
jade ocean
Like I said, leak discussion isn't allowed
Something about servers being deleted for doing so
tired crane
Is there a good way to shiny hunt the fire starters?
I have all the shiny grass and water type starters but not the fire ones
daring finch
Is there a good way to shiny hunt the fire starters?
Shotgun
supple fern
My shiny batch from yesterday to today:
robust wren
Why the hell does Skarmory refuse to get captured
I'm not even struggling with the Pyroar horde, the Skarmory just refuses to stay in any pokeball no matter what
robust wren
Dazzling Gleam on Delphox has to be the funniest thing ever in Online. I've had so many Garchomps running towards me for an EQ just to immediately die to it
hazy knot
glad to hear that delphox is somewhat good, since it’s one of my favorite new megas. I’ll probably wait to use it until after I get the shiny
robust wren
Mega Delphox isn't just good. Its stats are so well designed that tons of people are saying it's a potential ban to Ubers whenever it gets into the turn based games
It would probably be the Flutter Mane of the ZA meta if Xerneas wasn't allowed
jade ocean
I can't say its stat spread looks well adapted to ZA PVP
And iirc in the PLZA OU pet mod it's kinda mid
Because Greninja is the 2nd or 1st best Mega
But like
Greninja should've been banned ages ago
The people who haven't banned it just don't want to so that every new non-Zygarde Mega is allowed
Mega Greninja is something people don't talk enough about btw
This is a stupid fucking stat spread
It'd only really take keeping Nasty Plot or getting a good/great ability to make it broken
Honestly PLZA OU is just
Weird
The limited dex actually makes some Megas worse than they would be if they were put into a meta with a larger dex
Barbaracle and, once again, Delphox come to mind
Barbaracle is also a victim of Greninja
But it also struggles with Scizor, who is usually far less prevalent than it is in PLZA OU
There is also Mega Eternal Floette
Who they gave an absolutely overtuned ability that makes it beat pretty much any Mega Evolution that doesn't have SE STAB vs it
That is to say, PLZA OU is not exactly an amazingly balanced meta
And I can't say it seems like an accurate representation of how these Megas would perform, nor does it seem like a fun metagame
robust wren
Isn't that the mode that gave Mega Dnite freaking Soul Heart
jade ocean
Yeah something like that
little nacelle
what is spriter chat talking about with miku
jade ocean
what is spriter chat talking about with miku
Idk but every time I hear about spriter chat it's something about them talking about completely random things and it kinda intruiges me
So maybe Hatsune Miku's just there for fun idk
Or maybe it's ||Mega Lucario Z||
Wait I think it's a new Project Voltage release actually
edgy palm
Or maybe it's ||Mega Lucario Z||
Have you seen that things stat spread? It's pretty freaking good
edgy palm
||I'm just peeved it didn't get a new typing||
jade ocean
Have you seen that things stat spread? It's pretty freaking good
No, because it doesn't exist yet
edgy palm
It's potential stats I mean. I'm going to assume it's going to either remain a mixed attacker or they're going to make this thing all-out offensive.
I'm anticipating some near Regileki type speed if what the trailer said about Z mega's attack speed is true.
robust wren
I was around for Midnight Lycanroc. I know how Gamefreak builds Pokémon that were once sweepers into tanks. Spoiler alert: ||they usually screw it up||
I guess Venusaur into Mega Venusaur could be seen as going from Sweeper to tank and it's solid, but Venusaur already had a stat spread with an ok amount of bulk with the sweeping only being because of Chlorophyll
jade ocean
I'm anticipating some near Regileki type speed if what the trailer said about Z ...
All 100 Points into Speed
(Still slower than Eleki)
That does make me wonder, how will they carry over the faster Attack speed thing to mainline games?
Because I think this will be an innate thing separate from speed
robust wren
Probably just ignoring it, let's be real
Gamefreak does love building up gimmicks then tossing them off a cliff
RIP Ultra Necrozma
tired crane
Gamefreak does love building up gimmicks then tossing them off a cliff
True
worn cobalt
Anyone want me to offload shinies onto them? Other than Blaq, who supposedly is going to trade me.
Also, I know nothing of the leaks or of what will happen when the new Megas move to Champions, but, what if ||Z Megas get +125 bst, with normal 100 point spread plus an extra 25 in speed||?
jaunty comet
Also, I know nothing of the leaks or of what will happen when the new Megas move...
That would definitely make it worthwhile. Not sure why they even exist tbh
jaunty comet
Anyone want me to offload shinies onto them? Other than Blaq, who supposedly is ...
Also if you want, I can help offload some more if you want. I completely organized my boxes for a shiny living dex and got rid of all my regular mons to make room for more shinies lmao
I figured i would share the shinies with others in a server im in. I'm sure they would greatly appreciate it as much as I have
opal gull
worn cobalt
Also if you want, I can help offload some more if you want. I completely organiz...
Yeah, let me get organized and we can probably trade.
Also, just for the chat, if anyone has an extra Clefairy line shiny, I'd love it.
Having the darnedest time getting them to spawn now.
jaunty comet
Yeah, let me get organized and we can probably trade.
Don't worry about it tonight. It'll probably be sometime Monday afternoon or all day Tuesday. I work all day tomorrow so I won't be on
If that works for you
worn cobalt
Makes sense. I still need to know what mons to hold onto for @fickle birch , since I haven't heard what mons they are interested in.
radiant otter
shalpha charizard :D
robust wren
As someone who has been enjoying the customization, Boutique Couture might just be one of the most disappointing things in this game so far. All this time of not being able to get into it until I got super far into the story expecting some great customization options like what was available in XY, and everything in the store feels so uninteresting.
brisk night
ok i'm a little late to the party, but ||what is this curved thing on mega lucario z's head||?
wispy kernel
Also, I know nothing of the leaks or of what will happen when the new Megas move...
I don’t know if this is fine to say or not, but the leaks say nothing about any stats
unborn kelp
ok i'm a little late to the party, but ||what is this curved thing on mega lucar...
||HATSUNE MIKU?!||
edgy palm
I guess we will find out in three days
storm bone
do you guys remember the pre ZA release theory of people thinking we'll get a dragon eeveelution and a mega sylveon?
storm bone
I guess we will find out in three days
in some timezone it's in less then 48h
lime void
do you guys remember the pre ZA release theory of people thinking we'll get a dr...
They were never going to make new regular evolutions, and if they gave one eeveelution a mega, they'd have to give every eeveelution a mega, and there's no chance of them doing that
storm bone
yeah , it was wild theories
charred sage
if there we wasn't a "pokemon that can't evolve" precident then I feel like eevee itself would probably get a mega over any of its evolutions sadly and it'd probably still be a trophymon like the G-max form is
tranquil nexus
if there we wasn't a "pokemon that can't evolve" precident then I feel like eeve...
They could Eternal Floette an eevee 🤷
pastel pond
if there we wasn't a "pokemon that can't evolve" precident then I feel like eeve...
they;re gonna give the eeveelutions all a mega but it'll just be an eevee mega with a different color overlay
im still mad about mega raichu
charred sage
I could see that, they do have the partner eevee already for a 520 BST (I think partner's 420?)
535 my bad, which amusingly enough is 10 points more than the actual eeveelutions
and you do raise a good point they could have done that with pikachu and didn't...
robust wren
It's amazing how much Gamefreak completely missed the point in regards to why Eevee is popular and tried to capitalize on it in the dumbest ways possible
"Everyone really loves this Pokémon who's most famous for how it evolves into a bunch of different things. Let's promote it by disincentivizing evolving it!"
I can at least excuse Extreme Evoboost as it has all the Eeveelutions in its animation so they're still being promoted, but really Gamefreak? A partner Eevee that can't evolve?
charred sage
and this has baton pass so it's not even eevee itself that's getting the boost, it's whatever thing with +200/300 BST that just got the pass
lime void
I can at least excuse Extreme Evoboost as it has all the Eeveelutions in its ani...
As an extra kick in the teeth, there are outfits for all of the eeveelutions in Let’s Go, but you can only obtain the Gen 1 eeveelutions in the game
wispy kernel
I can at least excuse Extreme Evoboost as it has all the Eeveelutions in its ani...
it is a cute mascot-y design too
I don’t think its popular mostly because of the evolution stuff, the general cute design plays into it too
lime void
It’s mostly the evolution thing though
desert current
I genuinely like Eevee more than any of its evolutions (except for Sylveon).
charred sage
especially in terms of stats though the eeveelutions are basically past their prime since gen... 6 or so
then again some of them basically revolved around baton pass to begin with to not just be a worse version of another mon (most notably espeon just being a worse-but-tradeless alakazam until gen 5 gave it magic bounce) so once BP either became banned (smogon in gen 6) or given much wider distribution (canon in gen 8) they fell off a cliff (except for flareon, glaceon, and to a lesser extent leafeon, which already fell off the moment they got their stat spreads)
wispy kernel
Sylveon kinda goated ngl
fairy is generally just the best type, as well as it having pretty good stats, and a really good ability
charred sage
fairy I still feel is stronger on paper than in execution but sylveon has generally hung in the longest, magic bounce niches aside
actually now that I think about it vappy didn't so much fall off because of BP (though it didn't help) it fell off in gen 5 because a bunch of super bulky water types got regenerator and it didn't lol
wispy kernel
we should give the eeveelutions the partner eevee moves from LGPE 
nothing could possibly go wrong (we should not)
charred sage
I thought about that but I'm wondering if that'd actually help any of them after the gen 8/9 nerfs
wispy kernel
some of them actually got stronger iirc
charred sage
I think the only one that'd want to run theirs all the time would be leafeon, glaceon, and maybe espeon, and even then the -10 accuracy hurts sometimes on the former
wispy kernel
and even with the nerfs theyre pretty strong
charred sage
since flareon's still doesn't solve its BP issue (or fruitlessly going mixed since it drew the short end of the stick in gen 1), jolteon doesn't really need the paralysis, vaporeon generally wants Scald anyway since scald is a stupid move, and for the others they'd mostly just be minor upgrades
wispy kernel
we should never let pikachu have it’s moves though. zippy zap is fucking terrifying
wispy kernel
we should never let pikachu have it’s moves though. zippy zap is fucking terrify...
ok so I just saw what was changed for it in SWSH. 50 -> 80 bp, and it raises evasion instead of always critting. what the fuck
charred sage
pikachu moment
robust wren
ok so I just saw what was changed for it in SWSH. 50 -> 80 bp, and it raises eva...
So yeah that's just straight up bannable
Imagine that version of Zippy Zap existing nowadays, and now Imagine if one of the upcoming Megachus got Simple alongside it. VGC would be in shambles
Maybe that would be what it finally takes for evasion moves to finally be abolished, the same way paralysis was nerfed
storm bone
Since the ZA megas (except maybe the mega dimension ones) are a byproduct of XY ending they could theorically be featured in an xy remake
desert current
we should give the eeveelutions the partner eevee moves from LGPE <:Quagless:127...
That's how they do it in Pokerogue, and its genuinely awesome.
Bouncy Bubble is insane, especially in doubles.
wispy kernel
only 60 BP but 100% of damage regained as HP is insane
solid sapphire
Is anyone else also looking to finish their Pokedex? I need to evolve my Spritzee, Swirlix, Slowpoke, and Scyther (and if possible complete the link trade evolution challenge)
winter robin
I have a shiny machoke that I would like to evolve, trust the people on this server more than someone random to actually return it if anyone would want to trade.
solid sapphire
Same here, that's why I decided to reach out on this server. I'm down to trade evolve some mons and send them back
winter robin
sure 👍
solid sapphire
Rad! I'm ready whenever you are
solid sapphire
Ye
winter robin
how about just like. 123456
solid sapphire
Works for me haha
lime void
Doesn’t the code need to be 8 digits long
solid sapphire
Noooo that traitor
winter robin
i think she needs a held item
solid sapphire
Oh geez. I'm so sorry
winter robin
it's ok T_T
solid sapphire
I'll move the stupid rock to the other slowpoke. I thought I had prepared for this 😭
Apparently you can't move items in this menu. Which is so dumb
solid sapphire
Idk if your Spritzee was meant to evolve but it didn't have the item
solid sapphire
Are you missing any?
winter robin
steelix but i don't have the item atm
solid sapphire
I might have an extra, when I swap the rock to my slowpoke I'll check
Okay, I'm gonna leave the menu and switch some items and see if I've got that metal coat
winter robin
I think I have one, i just haven't given it the item yet
solid sapphire
Alright, if you need one though I do have an extra
solid sapphire
Yeah, I'm all good
winter robin
ok :)
solid sapphire
Thank you so much! My unfilled Pokedex has been stressing me out for weeks
winter robin
I'm only missin 1 Pokemon now >:)
solid sapphire
Zygarde? Haha
winter robin
it's dragonair.. Don't know how I managed to get dragonite without one but oh well
steel nest
Yo who got a shiny full odds mega diance to trade?
signal notch
If anyone has a shiny sableye, I would like to trade, I dont have that much good stuff. My best is probably an alpha shiny pangoro
I also have a shiny eevee
steel nest
I got a shiny beedrill
steel nest
I stoped playing after 24th s because the game is not that good
signal notch
When they add home support, that'd be amazing
There's a mewtwo or maybe that's old news
steel nest
Ong
signal notch
Thus is what I've been doing for the past 15 minutes
tired crane
Thus is what I've been doing for the past 15 minutes
Timer balls are the way to go
indigo mango
Thus is what I've been doing for the past 15 minutes
have you considered damaging it
you know..the thing you should do for catching
i put it in the red before spamming balls at it for 3 minutes
signal notch
Bro just toss the master ball
The one I dont have?
I did end up damaging it, with chip but still
I caught it
indigo mango
well you did say you been doing this for 15 minutes then post an image with it at full health lul
i hit it with 2 shadow balls, let it kill my pokemon and then didnt sent out another and just tossed balls till it got mad and then just dodged its attacks till it stopped being mad and then continued tossing balls, after 20 premier balls and 20 heal balls i gave up trying to use a themed ball for it and just went timer ball and caught it
steel nest
I did end up damaging it, with chip but still
Nice lol
I wasted my master all on a random bug
wide kraken
Can you shiny reset it
winter robin
fairly certain two's shiny locked
tired crane
I wasted my master all on a random bug
the pokeball auto picking is a bit of a jerk right?
tired crane
Can you shiny reset it
All event pokemon like traded pokemon and legendaries are shiny locked
solar narwhal
And i thought Mega Dragonite's design was Lazy 😭
olive panther
Thus is what I've been doing for the past 15 minutes
Nice that you caught it, as someone who also did this the hard way, probably took me over 100 balls and a lot of getting yelled at.
fickle birch
And i thought Mega Dragonite's design was Lazy 😭
It's basically just a bad fusion with Luxray. And still monotype! 
willow kelp
Yo who got a shiny full odds mega diance to trade?
Isn't diancie shiny locked?
willow kelp
i hit it with 2 shadow balls, let it kill my pokemon and then didnt sent out ano...
I wanted to catch it in a dream ball, and only had 4, luckily took me only 3 resets but could have been a long day 🙈
wispy flax
jade ocean
https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-unite-pokemon-unite-main-pokemon-unite-ma...
This is so real
wispy kernel
I can confirm I was a Zeraora main
gritty ibex
And i thought Mega Dragonite's design was Lazy 😭
Lowk more creative than dragonite’s
Still mid tho
fickle birch
I wouldn't say so, it's essentially just "what if Mega Charizard X, the worst Mega, was an electric cat instead of fiery dragon"? Dark palette, spikes, weird extra details 🙁
willow kelp
Lowk more creative than dragonite’s
I don't hate the ideo of M Dragonite looking more like the previous EVOS, I actually love the idea but the execution is bad. Ise the wings it has on its head as actual wings en slim its tail so it's not as big as the entire planet and I think you have a 10/10 mega 😅
Like this, but would prefer it to have everything orange instead of turning blue
fickle birch
Agreed, something like that would be really good. I'd even decapitate its feet. 😂
I also don't like how yes, it has wings on its head, but they don't match the sick design of Dragonair's ear wings. 😢
gritty ibex
Like this, but would prefer it to have everything orange instead of turning blue
Lowk wish they made it bluer and slimmer
And the wings a bit smaller
shrewd hearth
||Haven't they already done that to most of the new ones?||
robust wren
Talking about leaked content is against the rules
edgy palm
I thought we just needed to put it in spoilers o.O. My bad.
edgy palm
Oof, guess we gotta wait til after the 10th
wispy kernel
you might wanna delete that message tbh
worn cobalt
I thought we just needed to put it in spoilers o.O. My bad.
I'd delete that message for safety sake. Don't wanna nuke the server over something small.
hallow stirrup
Now why would you do that
(Spoilered for currently ingame postgame stuff, literally 1 thing but if you haven’t played through the full thing yet then it would reveal a couple other things)
gloomy star
I need some help
I just got the game today and i just did 2 trainer battles for the tutorial and i dont have attack options for their second pokemon
Is it a glitch or something
worn cobalt
I just got the game today and i just did 2 trainer battles for the tutorial and ...
Can you send a screenshot? We don't understand what you are talking about.
wispy kernel
Now why would you do that
(Spoilered for currently ingame postgame stuff, liter...
is he stupid
hallow stirrup
is he stupid
no he just hates trees
hallow stirrup
nuh uh he ouppy
wispy kernel
we need to cancel lucario
velvet forum
gloomy star
Can you send a screenshot? We don't understand what you are talking about.
Like attack options are not showing
At all
worn cobalt
Like attack options are not showing
Are you holding L or Left Trigger (ZL)?
gloomy star
Ya
worn cobalt
So... you going to send that screenshot?
velvet forum
ifs probably bc ur using a controller not compatible with the switch
gloomy star
🙄
velvet forum
unless it works in the menu?
gloomy star
Ya ima just try my joycons
velvet forum
did it work?
velvet forum
Noice! no problem
gloomy star
Sucks that controller doesn't work for the game though
velvet forum
Its definitely gotta be some sort of thing with the game being newer
sucks but it happens
gloomy star
Ya
velvet forum
at least u had joycons and can still play the game
gloomy star
True
The controller i have is one of those special cheap modded ones
Like ot has the turbo button and the buttons on the back
velvet forum
It clicks buttons for you automatically
gloomy star
Bruh
Now im mad😭
Ya that controller wouldn't even let me zoom in and out on the map
velvet forum
Yeah man sounds like it was a scam
gloomy star
It does have its pluses though
wispy kernel
It does have its pluses though
yeah most controllers have a plus
(joke about. the plus button)
worn cobalt
yeah most controllers have a plus <:heehee:945800365457149992>
-# maybe their controller has multiple pluses, which is why it doesn't work?
wispy kernel
worn cobalt
Wasn’t expecting official Pokémon to post shiny guide to be on my bingo list
Read the guide, it specifically mentions the "run back and forth" despawn method, and alludes to the fast travel spawn method.
worn cobalt
damn a shiny guide mentioning the ways to shiny hunt
Just surprised they call out those methods. Seems like Nintendo would be against the cheese.
robust wren
I think I finally realized what about Mega Excadrills design bothers me so much
With base Excadrill, its arms are thin and flush with its claws to give more of a streamlined look
But on the Mega, its arms are more rounded and separate from the claws. It makes the design look fatter.
Also the pink on the tip of Mega Excadrills nose takes up more of the snout, which makes the face look more awkward
radiant otter
AHHHHH
olive panther
The most fabulous garchomp.
proven quail
fickle birch
Wasn’t expecting official Pokémon to post shiny guide to be on my bingo list
I find it really weird how they've kept the fan name for Shiny Pokémon, but are actively introducing clunky terms to existing concepts like starters (First Partners) and pseudo-legendaries (Powerhouses). 😮
willow kelp
I've never even heard of those 😅
fickle birch
Official material uses them now; the next time it'll probably be relevant will be when Gen X's starters get revealed, but it's how they referred to Chikorita, Tepig and Totodile for Z-A.
civic cave
my character is so calm
opaque osprey
GameSir Nova Lite controller that I won in a Giveaway has finally arrived.
Time to join the Macro Shiny hunters
wispy kernel
my character is so calm<:heehee:945800365457149992>
is the clefable also shiny I cannot tell
civic cave
is the clefable also shiny I cannot tell <:heehee:945800365457149992>
it's shiny
wispy kernel
awesome
are you trying to have 6 alpha shinies show up at once or are you just very lucky
civic cave
are you trying to have 6 alpha shinies show up at once or are you just very luck...
i kept them so i can catch them all at once
but i'm too lazy to spawn 6 shinies
willow kelp
How do you get it to actually spawn 6 alphas, can't get it over 4
robust wren
Genuinely thought the fact that they weren't being addressed up to this point was a sign that they would be obtainable through gameplay, but leave it to Gamefreak to dash all hope this close to the finish line
fickle birch
I mean, the Pokémon will be, but the Megas... 😢
opaque osprey
In case you don’t understand Japanese
A new distribution has begun in Pokémon Legends: Z-A. This distribution will hide you a special Alpha Charizard with near perfect IVs. It is obtained with the cod B1G0006 and runs until January 19th
jade ocean
Here come the Charizard haters
robust wren
I'm just glad that they didn't drop Megazard Z after spending so much time in the trailer focusing on it
jade ocean
It'd be so fucking funny if they did though
edgy palm
I was scared they'd give it a Z form since the whole freaking trailer was about Charizard.
robust wren
On a side note I'm genuinely scared of the possibility of the Primals being reintroduced and tournament legal in one of the hoenn starter mega seasons.
I'm more scared of potentially dealing with Primal Groudon then I am of potentially dealing with Mega Rayquaza
jade ocean
I'm more scared of potentially dealing with Primal Groudon then I am of potentia...
Pdon has always been the bigger menace in Doubles
So I can see why
Personally I am dreading the first 3 days of the next Ubers generation that has Megas
3 representing the number of days Mega Gengar will slaughter the metagame before getting banned
Assuming Gamefreak doesn't remove Encore
Which I think is a possibility
Since they specifically waited for Mega Gengar to cease existence before giving Gengar Encore
I'd like to think they knew
robust wren
Thinking more on it, Primal Groudon really would perfectly slot itself into the current ZA meta.
jade ocean
OH YOU MEAN FOR ZA
robust wren
It resists Xerneas STAB and is a powerful Ground type that's not scared of Ice
jade ocean
ZA Meta seems absurdly fucked rn so I'm gonna continue being glad I don't have online
fickle birch
It feels so weird (though obviously necessary) for the pre-1000 Pokémon to have an extra 0 in front of them now. 😮
Like, 006 is normal, but 0006 looks so much more wrong despite. 😛
robust wren
At the very least there's probably not going to be any Pokémon games with that formatting besides Home and maybe Champions
jade ocean
Fun fact I don't see anyone mention when talking about counterparts where only 1 has a Mega
Starmie has a Mega
But Cloyster doesn't
Yes, they are actually counterparts
robust wren
I don't think anyone has thought of them as counterparts for over a decade
jade ocean
Well, they are, so I'm counting it
I mean they have been version exclusives on more than 1 occasion
They both start as Mono Water and gain a secondary type upon evolution via Water Stone
Close enough really
robust wren
Mega Cloyster sounds like a scary prospect. It's in a situation where I can't think of any stats that it could get that would feel wasted
jade ocean
Mega Cloyster sounds like a scary prospect. It's in a situation where I can't th...
That is very true
Uses both Attacking Stats, wants both Defensive stats to set up with Shell Smash easier, wants more Speed to outspeed stuff easier after Shell Smash and get away with running less Speed investment
They could fuck it up by not giving it Skill Link though
By my count, there are 7 Pokemon that lack Megas with counterparts that have Megas
edgy palm
Can you imagine what would happen if abilities existed in ZA?
jade ocean
Clawitzer, Kleavor, Turtonator, Vileplume, Cloyster, Mantine and Slowking
Vileplume's line does now have Bellossom to be fair
It is strange that Gloom got a new evolution and Weepinbell did not
robust wren
I think there were plans for that IIRC
jade ocean
Also Victreebel having 1 l and Weepinbell having 2 is tripping me the fuck up
Couldn't they have called it like
Weepingbel
Or something
That's besides the point
robust wren
They could fuck it up by not giving it Skill Link though
Give it Technician, now its multi hits are still strong and it has 60 power Ice Shard
jade ocean
Give it Technician, now its multi hits are still strong and it has 60 power Ice ...
They're strong if you manage to not hit 2 times
If you do, you are now sad
AKA: You will be sad
Because you will never get even average RNG if you actually need it
edgy palm
There's always loaded dice
edgy palm
XD Yup, just an Alpha. Not a bad deal if you like the Mon
robust wren
There's always loaded dice
We were talking in the context of a Mega, so that wouldn't really be an option in this hypothetical
Unless they decided to give Cloyster the Mega Rayquaza VIP treatment
edgy palm
Ah, I didn't read that. My bad 🤣
Yeah, Cloyster doesn't need help in that department with its ability. It'd be pretty broken if it did
edgy palm
I'm still suspicious of Charizard. They give that Mon EVERYTHING. 👀
hallow stirrup
Is there anyone that can help me transfer a Pokémon to a different save 
Literally a level 10 ghastly
hallow stirrup
Nevermind someone else helped me!!
tawdry flame
I wonder if perish song can be used to defeat and capture level 100+ Pokémon easily
willow kelp
Guess we wil find out in a few hours
robust wren
I'm still suspicious of Charizard. They give that Mon EVERYTHING. 👀
I feel like they would have revealed it in the last trailer if it was happening. They wouldn't miss out on a chance to advertise Zard getting another shiny new toy
desert current
Fun fact I don't see anyone mention when talking about counterparts where only 1...
I'm still mad Clawitzer didn't get a mega. 😠
charred sage
butterfree and slowking send their condolences
robust wren
Butterfree at least got a gmax for what that's worth
Though it's pretty much just Diet Coke Megas as far as gimmicks go
Slowking was straight up robbed tho
unborn elm
I'm still mad Clawitzer didn't get a mega. 😠
AND IM STILL PISSED HAXORUS DIDNT GET A MEGA😡
https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-angry-cat-angry-black-cat-angry-black-cat-gif-8431628872897666919
PLEASE GAMEFREAK I NEEEED THIS
jade ocean
Butterfree at least got a gmax for what that's worth
I forgot to mention Butterfree but yeah that's a good shout
Gmax forms don't count
Though at least Butterfree got one of the less worthless ones
desert current
Gmax is the most boring gimmick, you can't change my mind...
New form and only a SINGLE new attack, that's it.
At least Z-Moves have flashy animations to go with them.
Gmax moves are just... Another dynamax move.
No new stats or anything its just so lame.
Like you have a cool new design and its barely any different from regular dynamaxxing
(and they were extremely rare before the DLC too)
robust wren
I have a soft spot for Z moves for how they made Porygon Z viable for a bit with Z Conversion. One of my top 10 favorites and it's always been on the cusp of viability
It was countered relatively quickly, but that brief time where it was viable is one of my happier competitive memories
jade ocean
Z Conversion is such a funny fucking strat
edgy palm
There are many mons deserving of a Mega that will probably never get one.
edgy palm
Yup
robust wren
Had it's competitive potential stolen by a Pseudo, lost its mega to artists block, and has languished since
edgy palm
They say it's lack of ideas but I think it's just straight up laziness
robust wren
At this point it's probably the Flying Eeveelution thing where it's not happening due to all the fanart
Even though I'm pretty sure most fanartists would feel flattered to have an official Pokémon design that looks like something they came up with
jade ocean
Had it's competitive potential stolen by a Pseudo, lost its mega to artists bloc...
The "Had its competitive potential stolen by a Pseudo" thing is bullshit tbh
edgy palm
I think they speak of Garchomp
jade ocean
Flygon's multiple tiers behind Garchomp
If Garchomp truly stole Flygon's spot, it'd currently be in UU
edgy palm
https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-haxorus-gif-dragon-gif-26853775
There are so many things they could do with Haxorus
jade ocean
Flygon's in NU btw
Flygon's fall was bound to happen with or without Garchomp unfortunately
edgy palm
The only thing keeping Garchomp from being any more absurd is the fact that it doesn't learn Dragon Dance at all.
edgy palm
True
unborn elm
There are so many things they could do with Haxorus
Yes bro
jade ocean
Which is why suggestions to change Flygon's Type have NEVER made sense to me
edgy palm
What saves it is a good movepool, type and ability
Exactly this
unborn elm
Like they could make mega haxorus more bulky
edgy palm
We STILL don't have a Bug/Dragon
unborn elm
Haxorus sorely needs more bulk
Yes
edgy palm
Glares at Yanmega
unborn elm
And maybe a bit more attack/soeed
unborn elm
Maybe they could add 30 to hp defense and special defense and put the remaining 10 into speed
jade ocean
The main stats to improve on Hax are its Defences and Speed
Since you obviously can't increase HP
unborn elm
Oh shit I forgot bout that
jade ocean
Whatever else you have left just shove it into Attack
robust wren
I've actually seen some people ask for Mega Volcarona as if that isn't something that the gods of the Pokémon universe themselves would be terrified of
unborn elm
Yea
jade ocean
I've actually seen some people ask for Mega Volcarona as if that isn't something...
Consider this: It would be funny
unborn elm
30/30/30 into defenses and speed and the last 10 into attack
edgy palm
I've actually seen some people ask for Mega Volcarona as if that isn't something...
That would be OVERKILL
robust wren
Consider this: It would be funny
Let's give it Drought for extra lore accuracy and extra funny
jade ocean
Let's give it Drought for extra lore accuracy and extra funny
True!
Like shove a bunch of points into bulk and SpA
Maybe a bit into Speed
Give it Drought
edgy palm
Volcarona alone is the most terrifying bug out there. Giving it a Mega would just be absurd... and yet I kinda see the appeal
jade ocean
And that'll be so hilarious
The bulk is so that you just click Roost even if you're taking heavy Rocks damage
And then start clicking QD
And win
unborn elm
I forget what abilities does haxorus have?
jade ocean
I forget what abilities does haxorus have?
Mold Breaker is the best out of its abilities
edgy palm
QD on that thing is already stupid. Once it sets up you're cooked.
unborn elm
Mega haxorus could keep mold breaker or get a new ability
edgy palm
Moxie
robust wren
Mega Sneasler with Serene Grace to make every competitive scene simultaneously quit
jade ocean
Give it Moxie so you don't have to worry about boosting Attack much
edgy palm
Give it Moxie and a boost in speed
jade ocean
Mega Sneasler with Serene Grace to make every competitive scene simultaneously q...
I'm a Singles player
I won't see it for the rest of my life
Because it'll be banned forever
unborn elm
157 attack that gets boosted every kill?
edgy palm
I mean, it has access to DD
unborn elm
it’s actually 147 but this is on if it got an extra 10 attack
jade ocean
I make fun of Gamefreak for bad balancing but let's be real most fans have even less restraint lmao
unborn elm
I make fun of Gamefreak for bad balancing but let's be real most fans have even ...
Yes
edgy palm
Give it a boost to the terribad speed stat that it has and let it set up with DD and it will rip things apart
robust wren
I make fun of Gamefreak for bad balancing but let's be real most fans have even ...
I distinctly remember before Mega Sableye was released that one fan concept for it was to give it Wonder Guard
edgy palm
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
charred sage
as a throwback to the old hacking strat
unborn elm
And yknow what fuck it give mega haxorus steel type too
If it even learns some steel type moves
jade ocean
I distinctly remember before Mega Sableye was released that one fan concept for ...
???
charred sage
but yea wonder guard is very much "For Shedinja Only" even more than most gen 7-9 abilities even with their users
jade ocean
OK I lack self restraint
BUT I DON'T LACK THAT MUCH SELF RESTRAINT
Wonder Guard Mega Sableye is the spawn of satan
edgy palm
Dragon Steel would make so much sense considering the AXES on the sides of its face.
unborn elm
YES DUDE
charred sage
wonder guard on anything with more than Actually Zero bulk is actually among the worst
jade ocean
Tbh even fucking Mega Malamar would be broken with Wonder Guard
unborn elm
Dragon Steel would make so much sense considering the AXES on the sides of its f...
Dragon dark could work too
I think
Idk
jade ocean
At the end of the day Dark/Psychic's defensive shortcomings are due to having 0 resistances, not an abundance of weaknesses
charred sage
there's a good reason why IF and pokerogue both break canon and tie "Actually No Bulk" to wonder guard rather than shedinja itself having it
robust wren
Even Cacturne with Wonder guard would probably be too much.
jade ocean
https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-generations-haxorus-liepard-pokemon-gif-26635619
Liepard really looked at a Haxorus and went "Nah, I'd win"
unborn elm
Liepard really looked at a Haxorus and went "Nah, I'd win"
Then proceeded to get its ass chomped
robust wren
Liepard really looked at a Haxorus and went "Nah, I'd win"
Clearly it heard of Dive cats and wasn't aware that the strategy was nerfed out of viability
edgy palm
My lack of restraint would give something Speed Boost that doesn't need it 😅
jade ocean
I just want Gamefreak to give Goodra a Water/Dragon Mega with Regenerator
It won't happen
But it won't stop me from coping
They've done Goodra so dirty for long enough
Literally making Dragalge the same generation as Goodra is some devious shit
edgy palm
Or give a Mon the Quaquaval treatment with a move similar to Aqua Step to give it the equivalent of a DD every time it KO's something.
robust wren
They've done Goodra so dirty for long enough
They probably think the Hisui form was buff enough even though it was shown up by Archaludon shortly after
jade ocean
The funniest part is, Hisuian Goodra is the 2nd worst Pseudo
... And is still at least 60 times better than base Goodra
I dont consider these regional forms as buffs tbh
I mean, would you say Alolan Ninetales is a buff to regular Ninetales?
robust wren
I'm personally kinda sad that of all the Pseudos, Hydreigon hasn't got anything
jade ocean
No, of course not
edgy palm
Now we just need a Fire/Fairy
robust wren
No I don't count Iron Jugulis as something
jade ocean
Hydrei would probably be my 2nd pick for a Pseudo Mega
It's certainly the 3rd weakest Pseudo without a Mega currently
Yknow, if you include Goodra and Hoodra as 2 seperate Pokemon
edgy palm
The fact that Gardevoir has not gotten a regional is wild to me
jade ocean
God how fucked would it be if Gamefreak gave Hoodra a Mega but not base Goodra
robust wren
Garde has gotten plenty of attention from Gamefreak as is
jade ocean
They wouldn't
No way
But I mean
They gave Dragalge a Mega
And don't get me wrong
Dragalge is a good candidate
But like
Dragalge is like
Kinda just Goodra but better
robust wren
Garde has gotten plenty of attention from Gamefreak as is
A Mega, a split evo, a Mega for that split evo, a paradox that combines it with its split evo...
edgy palm
Like? There's been no stat changes or anything... Gallade essentially got a new form with Iron Valiant:/
jade ocean
So it's a bit insulting to the Pseudo Legendary for it to be instantly outclassed by a Pokemon from the same generation that shares a type with it
And then for that Pokemon to get a Mega
robust wren
Valiant is clearly meant to be Gardevoir and Gallade at once, down to its cry
jade ocean
Valiant best Paradox btw
(Well, from a more "normal" POV)
(But personally, I fucking love Iron Moth)
(Because of Moth Bias)
(I am biased towards moth)
(Slither Wing too)
I mean then again
edgy palm
Still, they had a chance to make her a flamenco dancer or something
lime void
I'm personally kinda sad that of all the Pseudos, Hydreigon hasn't got anything
Iron Jugulis: am I a joke to you?
jade ocean
Iron Valiant is pretty badass
jade ocean
Iron Jugulis: am I a joke to you?
I mean it kinda is just robo Hydreigon with a fake head
robust wren
Iron Jugulis: am I a joke to you?
YES
jade ocean
(Better than Fucker Mane but whatever)
lime void
It still counts as special treatment
robust wren
It still counts as special treatment
I would rather get nothing at all than the kind of "treatment" that Jugulis counts as
edgy palm
They gave Roaring Moon a lot.
unborn elm
Also the paradox tyranitar I forgot its name but it’s just tyranitar but 10x worse
jade ocean
Tbh I don't hold it against (most) of them, but a large majority of the Paradox Pokemon are very uncreative
And no "Specifically the future paradoxes"
edgy palm
That thing is nasty, and it's sad that Iron Jugulis got robbed of what it could have been
jade ocean
I'm calling out the Past Paradoxes too
unborn elm
Tbh I don't hold it against (most) of them, but a large majority of the Paradox ...
violet paradoxes
jade ocean
2 of them are literally just the same but with long hair
jade ocean
Great Tusk is literally just spiky Donphan with big tusks
unborn elm
The future paradoxes were just
jade ocean
(And honestly Treads has it beat in creativity)
robust wren
The chrome worked for a lot of the future Paradoxes. Like Thorns and Valiant
unborn elm
chrome
jade ocean
Roaring Moon is kinda just Mega Mence but with feathers
unborn elm
Dude guys hear me out
jade ocean
Brute Bonnet is Amoonguss but like... idk, it has a tail and a weird ass mouth?
jade ocean
Ival, Shocks and Slither Wing are really the only ones I'd say get a pass in creativity
unborn elm
LIKE HEAR ME OUT
jade ocean
Apart from like
The Raidons
And I guess the Beasts too? Though I will say the 2d art does the Swords dirty because they have very cool animations in game that actually make them stand out from the base Swords
unborn elm
Baxcalibur got a mega so why can’t ceruledge and armoruge
robust wren
I do kinda like Iron Crown, personally
jade ocean
Yeah out of the 3 Swords Crown takes the crown for creativity
That said, I love clicking Mighty Cleave
What I don't love is that fuckass Psychic Type on Boulder
It's so ass
robust wren
The vast majority of Rock types would kill for that move
jade ocean
Literally Mono Rock Boulder > Rock/Psychic Boulder
Fuck, give it the Rock/Steel type
Or Rock/Ice
Or I don't fucking know uhh
Rock/Normal
Still better than Rock/Psychic
unborn elm
Lowkey don’t get why basically every strong rock type move that isn’t like a signature move not 100% accuracy
edgy palm
Ceruledge and armouruge
That'd be neat, but I don't think they really need a Mega. It'd be cool to have though. I just can't imagine what they'd come up with since their designs are already badass as is.
unborn elm
That'd be neat, but I don't think they really need a Mega. It'd be cool to have ...
Amoruge gets big ass cannons
robust wren
Give Mighty Cleave to Midday Lycanroc or Aerodactyl and they would at least get bumped up to the BL of their tiers
jade ocean
Give Mighty Cleave to Midday Lycanroc or Aerodactyl and they would at least get ...
Mega Aero with Mighty Cleave is a nightmare
edgy palm
Lowkey don’t get why basically every strong rock type move that isn’t like a sig...
If a Pokémon with No Guard could learn it that would solve that issue
unborn elm
If a Pokémon with No Guard could learn it that would solve that issue
Yea but that’s only for like one mon
I’m just saying in general
jade ocean
If a Pokémon with No Guard could learn it that would solve that issue
It'd solve the issue with the Rock move
But it won't solve the 60 other issues the Pokemon has
cough cough Midnight Lycanroc cough cough
unborn elm
*cough cough* Midnight Lycanroc *cough cough*
robust wren
If a Pokémon with No Guard could learn it that would solve that issue
Midnight Roc got that deal. Unfortunately it had to make the tradeoff of its stats being liquid ass
edgy palm
My point exactly. If it could use the move it would be fine but yes, its stats are ass
robust wren
30 points out of speed being distributed as 10 points in each defensive stat has to be the absolute worst tradeoff in Pokémon history
You can't even really call it a Defensive Pokémon at that point
jade ocean
30 points out of speed being distributed as 10 points in each defensive stat has...
I dunno though
unborn elm
the innocent dragon flying/ground types watching in horror as a giant fucking ice cream pulls up and freeze drys the entire field
jade ocean
Gaining 40 SpA while losing 10 Speed as a Physical Attacker that prides itself on a great speed tier is uhh
A pretty horrendous tradeoff too
robust wren
Mega Chomp at least had good bulk and found a meta it can thrive in in ZA
If Midnight was in ZA it would immediately be laughed out
edgy palm
It lost 30 speed...
unborn elm
Lowkey sad that the legends Arceus protagonist probably never got to go back home after the game is completed
unborn elm
Like imagine one day your just scrolling TikTok eating good food at home just to suddenly have to survive pokemon trying to kill you like centuries ago
Then never getting to see ur family ever again
jade ocean
Midnight Lycanroc is worse than Corsola
Base Corsola btw
Corsola is a better Rock type than Midnight Lycanroc
Really putting the mid in its name
edgy palm
If Midnight could keep Accelerock, it wouldn't be AS BAD
jade ocean
Oh hey it got a redemption arc in SS
It is no longer worse than Corsola
It is now worse than Tangela
Now to its credit it is ranked high at A-
Just that Tangela is ranked higher at A+
edgy palm
😅
jade ocean
For those that are curious, it did not stick the landing in SV
It is now worse than the likes of Crocalor and Hippopotas
Oh also
Glimmet
Eelektrik
Dartrix
Base Calyrex
edgy palm
Honestly, if they were going to make a bulkier Lycanroc, they should've just done that...
jade ocean
Magcargo
edgy palm
Go full in on the bulk and make it a tank
unborn elm
Guys hear me out, MEGA TINKATON
lime void
Lowkey sad that the legends Arceus protagonist probably never got to go back hom...
Look on the bright side: he gets to live in a world without Charizard
unborn elm
COMICALLY LARGER HAMMER
jade ocean
I swear to god if you say "give it Huge Power" -
lime void
Duel wielding hammers
edgy palm
I swear to god if you say "give it Huge Power" -
That's a given
unborn elm
I swear to god if you say "give it Huge Power" -
No
jade ocean
Fuck you Arceus
edgy palm
Technician
jade ocean
OK but seriously Huge Power is meant to be given to mons with absolute shitter stats
Tinkaton does not qualify
unborn elm
It has 75 base attack
jade ocean
Tinkaton doesn't even qualify in base
Unless you want to argue that 100 Attack and 100 Speed would give Mega Medicham a strong niche in OU
unborn elm
It’s only stat over 100 is it’s special defense
jade ocean
Without Pure Power
edgy palm
Tinkatons stats are ass...
unborn elm
Yes
jade ocean
Or that Huge Powerless Azumarill would make a huge splash in UU
Tinkaton is heavily slept on
unborn elm
Its got the best typing
jade ocean
Just because it doesn't have great stats doesn't mean it's bad
unborn elm
Really good signature move
Yea but it’d 100% benefit from a mega
It doesn’t even need to get huge power
edgy palm
For context... Mawile has 85 Atk
jade ocean
I'm just gonna say
Tinkaton is currently as good as Garchomp in OU
It really doesn't need a Mega currently, and it certainly doesn't need Huge Power
unborn elm
What if we give tinkaton pixelate
edgy palm
That's because it has Gigaton Hammer
edgy palm
A 160 power move with 100% accuracy
edgy palm
Of course it's going to do well
jade ocean
You can't say that without the move it'd do poorly and thus it needs a Mega
Like yeah let's remove Geomancy from Xerneas
Now it isn't a menace to society
So let's give it a Mega
edgy palm
The typing is great however it could use a P.def boost because its pretty allergic to an EQ or any Flare Blitzing Mon that wants to
jade ocean
Blissey and Dondozo are also as good as Tinkaton rn btw
unborn elm
The typing is great however it could use a P.def boost because its pretty allerg...
The typing is the best
jade ocean
Mega Sableye boutta get competition for Mega on Stall teams
edgy palm
Speaking of stalls... freaking Alolan Corsola...
jade ocean
I love Knock Off and hazards!
edgy palm
Mega Sableye boutta get competition for Mega on Stall teams
Mega Sableye... too bad abilities don't exactly exist in ZA
jade ocean
I hope Sableye doesn't bring Parting Shot with it
edgy palm
Magic Bounce would piss a lot of people off
jade ocean
Out of ZA
Parting Shot Mega Sableye would be such a bastard
Swords Dance Mega Lop is also a terrifying thought
Even outside of that
edgy palm
Swords Dance Mega anything is terrifying in general
jade ocean
Some Pokemon have gotten moves that weren't designed with their Megas in mind
And uhh
Encore Mega Gengar would be like
A 3 day quickban from Ubers type shit
Mega Blastoise and Barbaracle speedrunning getting banned from OU for Shell Smash crimes
edgy palm
Imagine Mega Rayquaza being allowed into ZA
jade ocean
Imagine Mega Rayquaza being allowed into ZA
Xerneas mid diffs it's fiiiine
Tbh with how ZA PVP functions I expect Pdon to make a bigger splash
(Non literally)
edgy palm
Dragon Ascent says hi xD
supple bone
whos ready for the dlc tonight
jade ocean
Pogre too
Both will be far better suited to handling Xern
The former with its resist to Fairy and the latter with its shitloads of special bulk
edgy palm
It'd still be a pain considering the boost in speed it gets plus the fact that it can hold an item...
Life Orb Mega Rayquaza
jade ocean
Speed isn't the most impactful in ZA
It's far easier to get away with non stupidly high speed here
edgy palm
True, but when you have stats that this it really doesn't matter xD
jade ocean
I'm not saying I think it'll be bad
Ofc it'll be good
But I think Pdon will make a bigger impact
And possibly Pogre too
And I doubt it'd eclipse Xerneas
robust wren
I'm a lot more worried about potentially dealing with Primal Groudon cause it resists Xerneas and hits Ice types for super effective
I wouldn't be surprised if P.Don became the new #2 of the meta
jade ocean
Pdon handles Xerneas, the Ices that normally beat Grounds and the Steels, but can struggle vs other Grounds
With that said, 160 fucking Defence
And presumably an instant activation of its alt form
So it is by no means defenseless vs other Grounds
robust wren
Imagine if the "technically not a Mega" thing meant it didn't deplete the Mega bar
edgy palm
Pdon would be insane for sure, but without its ability it would lose some of what made it so dangerous. Not that it still wouldn't be, it would, but its ability really makes it more of a menace
charred sage
are abilities in legends ZA?
jade ocean
So it's far less impactful than it should be
charred sage
unless they pull an exception yea it might gain a x4 water weakness
jade ocean
There is Pogre though
And I believe there are already a few exceptions for abilities
Apparently Kangaskhan still hits twice?
charred sage
like aegislash too
edgy palm
That's just because it makes sense
jade ocean
Pure and Huge Power mons got a 1.4× Attack buff
robust wren
like aegislash too
Aegislash would be better if its ability wasn't accounted for TBF
jade ocean
So basically, don't write off the possibility of Mega Rayquaza, Pdon and Pogre keeping their abilities in some way
robust wren
Stance Change carrying over absolutely killed it in this meta
edgy palm
I wondered why Diggersby hit as hard
jade ocean
I wondered why Diggersby hit as hard
I dont think Diggersby got the buff actually
Since Huge Power is its HA
jade ocean
Something like Base Medicham did though
velvet forum
Did anyone see the new trailer
jade ocean
As did Megas Starmie, Mawile and Medicham
velvet forum
edgy palm
Did anyone see the new trailer
Yes
robust wren
I'm so goddamn angry that Mega Starmie will probably be competitively viable
velvet forum
im excited
robust wren
I longed for the days of Starmie becoming meta again, but I guess there was a Monkeys paw nearby
jade ocean
There is a good chance they give it Ice Spinner in Gen 10 or Champions or whatever
velvet forum
ZA introduced a lot of mid megas ngl only a select few are viable
jade ocean
Given how it learns Ice Beam and Rapid Spin
velvet forum
Mega emboar is probably my favorite of the new bunch
robust wren
Hopefully the batch of new DLC Megas they haven't revealed yet are good