pokemon-winds-waves

[worn cobalt]

I don't know how to feel right now. If I should just take the w.

Stupid random chance working in dumb ways.

[unborn elm]

I swear dude

Mega feraligtr would’ve been way better if they just

Hold on gimme a couple minutes

[radiant otter]

i have this problem with squirtle

i have 6 (six) dragalge and 3 totodile

[unborn elm]

Nvm I was gonna do sum but like

If they moved down the hood thingy just a tad bit instead of like hanging like a toilet seat

It would’ve looked better

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-legends-za-mega-feraligatr-chomping-animation-biting-animation-mega-feraligatr-totodile-mask-stays-down-gif-6161277132356509749

LIKE THIS

[worn cobalt]

Do you have three extra shiny totodile?

[radiant otter]

not currently but its bound to happen eventually

[tired crane]

My optimal shiny is a shiny tepig

Shiny mega emboar is so awesome

[junior birch]

yo is there anyone that wants evo link trade, im just tryna complete mables research

[junior birch]

ill give back the mon after it i just need the quest

[supple fern]

Going for a shiny blue Dino fossil. Charm wouldn’t matter either way and I have a turbo controller so I can let it be for a few monutes then reset if there is no blue

[worn cobalt]

In case nobody else is available when you are, there's always Austin John Plays Trade Codes, which will connect you with a rando who also is seeking the mon. You probably won't get it back, but they will trade what you are looking for too. ALWAYS check to make sure trade evos that need items have the item they need on them.

[tired crane]

Almost to 1,000 wins!

[worn cobalt]

If you don't figure this out, I can probably trade sometime later today (it's 1 am for me, imma sleep).

[opaque osprey]

Finally bothered to complete the 15 rank-up battle to get Mega Floette…

Now just 400+ battles until research complete

[storm bone]

do you have the link?

[tired crane]

I just need 11 more research levels

does anybody know how many levels completing those "Catch X amount of X types" give you when you complete all of them?

[wispy kernel]

I have the shiny charm and I didnt finish all of the catching requests lol

[unborn elm]

I FOUND THE BABY SPARKLE CROC LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO

https://tenor.com/view/bleh-gif-2484976909584170518

Oh also shiny gardevoir I guess

[tired crane]

How'd you do it?

[unborn elm]

But more importantly SHINY TODODILE

[tired crane]

did you complete the entire pokedex or something?

[unborn elm]

YEAAAA

[wispy kernel]

yeah

and also obviously the 1000 battles

[tired crane]

hmm

[unborn elm]

No thought behind those eyes

[edgy palm]

Other than to eat everything in sight

[hot silo]

im pretty sure i have finished preparing all the trade evos and their items

[hot silo]

however i just realised the research task about it... i have to be the one receiving the pokemon that evolves...

[edgy palm]

What move do you get for it?

[hot silo]

the first one of those tasks gives 2000 points

[worn cobalt]

We can figure it out. Although I'll be busy for the next hour or so.

[worn cobalt]

I also have trade evos to evolve at worst case scenario.

[hot silo]

ah, well we will have to see when we can do the trade, may i DM or add you so that we can properly prepare without other distractions in the chat

[hot silo]

alright

[worn cobalt]

Just message me in the chat (or I'll @ you in the chat). I'm not good at checking DMs . We can move to DMs once we are ready to trade.

[hot silo]

alright

[hot silo]

im just missing the trade evos and then i will have a full pokedex :D

[autumn zephyr]

2 days

[worn cobalt]

Til what?

[autumn zephyr]

the new mega reveal

and i already know who it is

[hot silo]

you still busy?

[worn cobalt]

Yeah, for a bit. I'll message you when I get home.

[hot silo]

ah, i will probably be asleep, it is 9:02 PM and i gotta go to bed since i have to wake up early tomorrow

[worn cobalt]

We can probably do the trades tomorrow then.

[hot silo]

probably

[unborn elm]

Oh god I have to hide icey the vanilux

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-vanilluxe-gif-27484308

[worn cobalt]

Turns out there is a macro to grind Le Super-Tournoi de Jacinthe Infinite, so... we doing that while spriting ig. Makes Jacinthe happy, can't complain.

[tired crane]

Just need 6 more research levels before I get the shiny charm

but at this point it's AGONIZING trying to get those points- ugh

[worn cobalt]

What do you have left research wise?

[tired crane]

Some of those catch same type things, around 46 pokedex entries left in the pokedex. I have like 25 pokemon or something left in the mega dex and I haven't traded the max amount of times

[worn cobalt]

Bummer. I wish I could help you.

[tired crane]

Yeah I wish the game wasn't so tedious

[worn cobalt]

Trying for another shiny Tyrunt right now.

[supple fern]

Still going for mine with my turbo controller

30 fossils, 8:20 minutes at a time

[worn cobalt]

About same for me.

And done ig?

[tired crane]

Wow- that was quick, congrats!

[worn cobalt]

I'm dreading this Amaura hunt. It's going to take forever I bet.

[charred sage]

wish I had a turbo when I was hunting arctozolt

[surreal belfry]

my brother in shinies

[tired crane]

I'm back

4 research ranks left

does Slowking require you to trade?

Yeah he does require trade

bummer

[jade ocean]

Depends on if you care which Slowking you're getting

You can obtain and evolve Galarian Slowpoke into Galarian Slowking if the dex is your only concern

[tired crane]

I'm trying to complete the pokedex- so the regular one

[jade ocean]

But Glowpoke is a 1 per savefile thing

Glowking should fill the Pokedex all the same

[tired crane]

oh-

huh

thank you!

[jade ocean]

Regional Forms always have had, unless I'm delusional

[fickle birch]

Yeah, it's still Slowking so it fills the Pokédex the same way any alternate form would. It's not as if it's a Perrserker or Sirfetch'd situation. 🙂

[autumn shore]

Should we play X and Y before legends za to get an understanding of the story or does it make sense if we don't go back to those games?

[wispy kernel]

you should play XY for the postgame story since its peak

but eh not really

just general knowledge of somewhat what happened really

and its not really needed

[opaque osprey]

Was running around the rooftop when I heard shiny sound.
Looked below and saw Shalpha Trubbish so I caught him with a friend ball

[edgy palm]

Okay, as much as I love the increased customization options that our characters have, I'm a bit salty that they didn't bring back roller skates...

[hot silo]

you able to do trades yet?

[worn cobalt]

I should be available in a few minutes.

[hot silo]

alright

[worn cobalt]

Just gotta load the game.

Okay, let me know a link code

[hot silo]

which pokemon will we start with?

[worn cobalt]

I figured we could just send whatever you want to evolve, I'll send my 5 trade evos, and we can swap back and forth them.

[hot silo]

alright, ill DM a trade code

[tired crane]

Down to 3 more pokemon in my pokedex

Zygarde

||Xerneas||

and Flareon

[worn cobalt]

Flareon seems like an odd one to be missing. Good luck with the hunt though.

[tired crane]

I keep going to wild zone 20 and it has a long cooldown

I did remember that eevee spawns on rooftops so I'll get Flareon soon

[worn cobalt]

Resuming my Amaura hunt.

[tired crane]

Good luck!

[indigo mango]

its wild how people not being able to read has saved me from being spoiled ||from the Eternal Floette Qiest Dialogue...cause everywhere i seen people said that Taunie leaves to find her Mom...which is just wrong. even tho it would have made more sense then that the Dialogue actually says. Cause well it goes that after Jett asked Emma "Hey you know Taunies Jacket, that reminds me of my daughter" and Taunie going "That Jacket is the last thing of my Mom" Emma is like "Huh maybe that relates in some way" (i think she might be a bit slow) but anyway Jett tells Taunie shes her Grandmother and that her Mom ran away after a fight, Taunie says her Mom worked for Team Flare and then left Taunie on her own cause she wanted to Travel the World.||

||But anyway so what happens is that Jett gives Taunie the Job as President of her Company...which like thats so stupid but yeah..thats it, Taunie didnt leave shes just now the CEO||

[robust wren]

||Jett watching in horror as Taunie empties the companies coffers on loans to the mafia to fund advertisements||

||I don't care how nice of a character they were to me as the protagonist, I'm not gonna celebrate nepotism||

[worn cobalt]

||as far as I know, it's actually comon in Japanese culture to pass a business to a living family member.||

[indigo mango]

||sure but like give that to a trained family member...its just kinda wild for her first proper interaction with the Grandaughter to go "welp im retiring, you wanna be CEO?"...also as much as people say it i cant see them being older then 15. no way they are Adults tho||

[worn cobalt]

||Tbh, Vinnie will run the day to day operations until Taunie gets caught up to speed, and Taunie has demonstrated courage and leadership (albeit not the best leadership). As she grows with the business, she'll grow to fit the role. It's not as big a deal as some people think.||

||Pokemon world maturity levels are also different. 5 year olds can be proper trainers. Heck, Paldea has a 5-8 year old as an Elite four member.||

[unborn elm]

https://tenor.com/view/poppy-pokemon-vibing-happy-yay-gif-16212284371498418484

[wispy kernel]

||Honestly I thought of Team MZ as being around 17-19, especially with Lida talking about her formerly renting an apartment and not being able to pay rent when her roommate left||

||Calem/Serena are also at least 17 in XY, cuz iirc it’s stated that they’re older than Emma, who’s 16 in XY, so it makes sense that Team MZ would be around there too||

[worn cobalt]

Just finished my Amaura hunt. Not as bad as the first time. I'll take it.

[hot silo]

i finished my dex :D now i just need one more level until the shiny charm :)

[tired crane]

Congrats!

[tired crane]

I'm in a similar position!

Good luck!

[radiant otter]

can someone help me evolve my shiny machoke rq please?

[worn cobalt]

Do you still need help?

[radiant otter]

yes

[worn cobalt]

Give me a moment, my food just finished cooking.

Okay, let me know a trade code whenever you are ready.

[radiant otter]

14789632

[worn cobalt]

Think I found you. I'll send the last mon I caught ofver and back.

please no steal.

[radiant otter]

i no steal

i got my chikorita

[worn cobalt]

I accept!

[radiant otter]

i do need 2 more but i no steal

stealing bad

[worn cobalt]

You are a kind soul. I'd offer shinies, but you probably want to hunt your own.

[radiant otter]

for the most part yeah

i've already got the whole beldum line from you for a shalpha heracross

[worn cobalt]

I'll organize and post my extras later.

Oh yeah, that was a good trade.

[radiant otter]

i've found another shalpha heracross since then too

totaling 3 shalpha heracross from zone 20

[worn cobalt]

Nice. The shalphas keep coming!

[radiant otter]

if i see another one under zone 20 i'm closing my game

[worn cobalt]

I just got Shalpha Starmie. idk if I'll keep or offer up.

[radiant otter]

i thought starmie would be kind of hard to see as a shalpha

i was very wrong

the one i got was facing backwards and i still noticed it immediately

[worn cobalt]

I'm just figuring it was Shalpha, it was shiny and in the middle of WZ20 and very angry. I caught it and ran.

[radiant otter]

alphas tend to be angry

not fun

[worn cobalt]

I just realized that chikorita I sent you was the last shiny one I needed. I'm so glad you didn't steal it!

[radiant otter]

i gotta start grinding out my other 2 chikoritas

[worn cobalt]

I keep grinding for Shiny Totodile and keep getting shiny grass types. Or the squid or sea dragon.

[tired crane]

I'm like 5 rock type pokemon away from a shiny charm

but it's too late

I'll have to finish the last quest tomorrow

[worn cobalt]

I was doing the "run back and forth" method on the Dratini in Jaune sector, and the ekans on the roof is shiny. I'mma just leave it be for now, since that ekans likes to dance. 🕺

The Ekans randomly became shiny over a day/night cycle.

[desert current]

That outfit is giving Max Modem vibes for some reason.

https://tenor.com/view/alien-heart-phineas-and-ferb-max-modem-gif-10415097328585511400

[worn cobalt]

I happen to like it. It's from the DLC. Glowy pants!

[worn cobalt]

I caught it and named it Shari. Was going to name it Bill, but it's a girl, so Shari it is!

[hot silo]

how did you get the video from your switch to your PC/Phone?

[storm bone]

https://bsky.app/profile/serebii.bsky.social/post/3m6yzvlxhp22w

Serebii.net (@serebii.bsky.social)

Serebii Update: A new Pokémon Legends Z-A Mystery Gift has been announced to start today through "Get Via Internet".

Gives players Mewtwonite X & Mewtwonite Y which activates the "Project M" Side Mission to catch Mewtwo

Details @ www.serebii.net

Bluesky · Dec 2, 2025, 1:20 PM

[civic cave]

new mega
||https://x.com/poke_times/status/1995855471127740854||

[lime void]

Where’s the trailer for it?

[wispy kernel]

what type is it

I’m trying to open the website but it wont load 💔

[civic cave]

||still fighting/steel||

[wispy kernel]

WHAT THE FUCK

[civic cave]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzoJMEzMNLU||

[wispy kernel]

oh my god bruh

[civic cave]

||miku lucario? ||

[storm bone]

No way !!

[wispy kernel]

damn thats crazy

[meager lynx]

You just saved that design for me

It’s so bad

But at least it’s Miku

[opaque osprey]

Luca Luca Beam!!!

[civic cave]

||lucario/meloetta ||

[limber owl]

You want Meloetta to be the base?

Anyways
Neat new Fighting/Steel type

Ok pretty glad that the new Megas shown are for those deemed "Industry Plants"

Lots of new surprises on the way

Thank goodness most of the spoilers I failed to avoid only had silhouettes

[copper sequoia]

WHY DO THEY KEEP DROPPING HOT ASS

[runic peak]

i can't see the end of the horizon- HATSUNE MIKU????

[copper sequoia]

damn id want her to end my suffering too

[runic peak]

i like the design but why are we giving new megas to pokemon that already have one

i alr find pokemon having both x and y megas unnecessary

[meager lynx]

I don’t like the design at all but HATSUNE MIKU???

[runic peak]

Flygon found dead in an alleyway

[runic peak]

-# we should've gotten mega raichu and mega alolan raichu instead of two megas for the same raichu rip pancake rat

[robust wren]

||it's clearly trying to tap more into the Anubis inspiration, but... I dunno, it's not doing much for me||

[copper sequoia]

I think the concept can be interesing especially with certain Leaks but they keep fumbling. So Bad.

[shrewd hearth]

-# We barely even got that it's obviously just Thier way of making mega pikachu with the least amount of people being able to rightfully complain about it

[robust wren]

||Lucario didn't even need a new Mega, the original one it has is already busted as hell||

[copper sequoia]

Also anything to make charizard less specil ™

[meager lynx]

Absolutely

I don’t like either Mega Raichu

[runic peak]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-raichu-pancakes-food-breakfast-gif-16415807

[meager lynx]

They’re just two Mega Pikachus

[copper sequoia]

True....

[runic peak]

i love pancake rat so much!!!!!!

[runic peak]

same

i'd like the x more if it was less pikachu

[copper sequoia]

i dont like the oversized limbs especially

[meager lynx]

Pip you’re not seeing the big picture here
We’re getting Z Megas

[copper sequoia]

And with the doughy looking 3d renders they just look like giant blobs of clay

[runic peak]

please no

[copper sequoia]

Shut Up

[meager lynx]

Mega Charizard Z is one step closer to being true

[copper sequoia]

[runic peak]

NO

[meager lynx]

That would be the best thing Gamefreak can do

[copper sequoia]

ok hopefully theyre just revealing the worst megas in the trailers and all the good ones will be in game like how the base game megas were revealed

[meager lynx]

Just imagine I’m the chaos

[meager lynx]

Exactly, like Mega Starmie

And Mega Pyroar

[copper sequoia]

somehow ALL THE DIMENSION MEGAS SUCK!!! except for chimecho thats my goat

[meager lynx]

I like Baxcalibur, is funny looking

[runic peak]

mega chimecho is so goated

[robust wren]

||Welp, all the industry plants are out of the way now, time to wait for the DLC to release for the actual interesting Megas||

[unborn elm]

But hastune Miku lucario

[copper sequoia]

let me be wishful

We had falinks that was good and uhhh uhhh who else uhhhhh

[meager lynx]

I do have faith for the DLC Megas

[copper sequoia]

Uhhhhhhhhghhhhh

[meager lynx]

I’m hoping we’ll get Z Megas for the Kanto starters eventually

[robust wren]

Barbaracle and Froslass are favorites of mine

[meager lynx]

I love Falinks so much 10/10 mega

Dragalge is also peak

[runic peak]

why not use mega dimension megas? we got
pikachu x
pikachu y
actually good one
why couldn't any other pseudo legendary get one
bipedal luxray
hatsune miku

[meager lynx]

Scolipede

Excadrill is literally just Chainsaw man

[runic peak]

https://tenor.com/view/falinks-pokemon-sword-and-shield-dance-silly-gif-26813103

[fickle birch]

||I massively prefer it to regular Mega Lucario, but that might just be because it looks more like Anubis, and I love Anubis.|| 😄

[runic peak]

falinks is my favorite group of creatures

[copper sequoia]

I also like how chimechos the only one with a new typing so far CHIMECHO NUMERO UNOOOOOO YEAAAHHHHH

[meager lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-meme-big-eyes-gif-15694997021212211490

[fickle birch]

It does really aggravate me that the new Megas are playing it really safe with their typings. 🙁

[meager lynx]

What if all Z Megas are Hatsune Miku coded?

[fickle birch]

Raichu could have easily been Electric/Fighting for X and Electric/Fairy for Y, and ||Mega Lucario|| could have changed its type or done something more fun, ||but I don't actually know what type would suit it best. Ghost? Water?|| 😅

[copper sequoia]

Right??? honestly a lot of the new megas feel really safe with how little they change anything really

except for malamar hes awesome

[robust wren]

||What distribution could they even give Mega LucaZ that would even make it stand out from the original? OG Mega Lucario is already one of the best mixed attackers of all time||

[meager lynx]

Mega Charizard Z and it’s literally just Mikuzard

[runic peak]

i mean it's not like i want any more megas because my favorite pokemon wouldn't work in this game so I'm happy enough with chandelure and falinks

[meager lynx]

Oh yea I love him, his my good friend

[fickle birch]

I dislike the ones that are just "x (or y) feature gets really big". Skarmory especially just makes the feet bigger, when they've never been an iconic part of its design? 😮

[robust wren]

Malamar's mega looks cool but those stats are an abomination

[meager lynx]

Absolutely

[copper sequoia]

Im still waiting to loan my friend's za copy but she's in horrible brainrot rn with the amount of shiny hunting she's been doing

[robust wren]

Even from a casual perspective, why did they do that to it

[runic peak]

mega starmie is brilliant game design

[meager lynx]

Starmie is peak meme design

[fickle birch]

I hated it when I saw the leak of it and a static image of it in-game, but as soon as I saw it move, I was all in. 😂

[robust wren]

Mega Delphox is a favorite of mine (aside from the asinine distribution method)

[fickle birch]

It's a cute nod to EarthBound, which was made by Creatures, Inc. as well. 🙂

[meager lynx]

Oh yea I hate those distribution methods

[fickle birch]

Emboar, Delphox and Chesnaught feel like the most classic Mega designs of the new batch. Falinks too. 🙂

[copper sequoia]

I'm so angry with the kalos starters, they made the best designs EVER for them (designs that theyve been waiting for 10 YEARS!!!) and decide to lock them behind online

[unborn elm]

https://tenor.com/view/denji-beam-chainsaw-man-anime-shark-devil-gif-15860016308490768865

Put a mega sharpedo and you get this

[runic peak]

Ok so I do love mega starmie's animations so it's not my least favorite mega (that'd go to pyroar) but I don't feel like that really justifies the laziness I just like it for being silly

[meager lynx]

I don’t like Emboar, I have no feelings towards his mega

[fickle birch]

Meganium, Froslass, and Pyroar are G-Max designs (though Froslass especially is a great one). 🙂

[unborn elm]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-rock-long-legs-spongebob-spinning-gif-15932840

[robust wren]

Mega Scrafty is pretty cool when people aren't reading way too far into the design

[meager lynx]

I love Mega Meganium, it’s so cute

[unborn elm]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-sad-sad-cat-cat-meme-gif-25617057

The kool kids klub

[fickle birch]

I see it less as a Mega in terms of design and more of one in terms of concept. It plays on the alien aspect of Starmie that's always been there, but has largely been ignored for years now. 😄

[fickle birch]

https://tenor.com/view/krusty-komedy-klassic-gif-27506936

[runic peak]

#1433118102647738470 message

[meager lynx]

Mega Pyroar is by far the biggest disappointment

I love Pyroar

[tired crane]

After school today I'll get the shiny charm!

[meager lynx]

And they just killed it

[unborn elm]

LOL

[copper sequoia]

I like chesnaught i have this cute pokedoll of him :3

[tired crane]

I'm so excited!

[fickle birch]

The only saving grace is that the Shiny is excellent. 🙂

[unborn elm]

https://tenor.com/view/running-ahh-aa-spongebob-meme-gif-19928154

[runic peak]

i actually never knew about starmie being an alien until the mega lol

yeah i did later read its past dex entries mentioning that

[meager lynx]

Mega Pyroar could have easily become a Fairy/Fire chimera or manticore

[unborn elm]

mudkips just sitting there menacingly

[copper sequoia]

This isnt about him

[meager lynx]

I don’t like the shiny either

[unborn elm]

https://tenor.com/view/fefennekin-mudkip-leap-attack-fall-gif-4977260606176683789

[runic peak]

it looks tasty

[copper sequoia]

ate too much mold

[fickle birch]

Oh I was just about to copy-paste one of those. 😂

[robust wren]

Mega Drampa is one of the best Megas out there

[fickle birch]

Screw it, I'll do it anyway. "Its unusual body shape, reminiscent of abstract art, led local people to spread rumors that this Pokémon may be an invader from outer space." 😛

[robust wren]

At least design wise

[meager lynx]

I wanted Pyroar to have a split evolution, make and female, a Manticore and a Chimera, both being Fairy/Fire and one of them getting levitate

[fickle birch]

100%, I love it. 😄

[meager lynx]

And those should have gotten megas

[fickle birch]

It does look like a Fidough evolution, for sure. 😅

[runic peak]

oddly specific

[runic peak]

i love bread dog don't compare it to my goat bread dog 😤

[fickle birch]

Something like "Eclareo" for the name because it looks like an eclair. 😂

[runic peak]

-# i mean yeah kinda

[robust wren]

The funniest part is that they didn't even try with its stats. Just spread the 100 BST evenly and called it a day

[fickle birch]

Dachsbun is my favourite Gen IX Pokémon. 😂

[meager lynx]

There are designs elements and enough inspiration for that to be the case I have no idea why they decided to stick with a normal lion

[unborn elm]

-# stares at all

[runic peak]

it's my fav fairy type

[fickle birch]

Awful, awful design. There's a reason (excluding the size limit) why most fan sprites make the hood not stand upright, and it does so much to help. 🙂

[unborn elm]

I know

[runic peak]

just tilt the hoodie a bit down

completely fixed design

[unborn elm]

It’d be fine with me if it wasn’t just 90 degrees straight up

EXACTLY

[lime void]

I want Dachsbun to get an evolution

[unborn elm]

Like this

[copper sequoia]

there's this guy on twitter who glazes mega feraligatr so hard it actually makes me angry

[unborn elm]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-legends-za-mega-feraligatr-chomping-animation-biting-animation-mega-feraligatr-totodile-mask-stays-down-gif-6161277132356509749

Like this

[fickle birch]

This was my take on a Mega design. I'm shocked they didn't pull in Croconaw's abandoned caveman aesthetic. 😢

[unborn elm]

Much better

[runic peak]

gamefreak it wasn't that hard

[copper sequoia]

like he is not that good be so fr

[meager lynx]

I love Mega Feraligatr but I wish the hood wasn’t straight up all the time it looks so bad

[meager lynx]

This is literally peak

[fickle birch]

Like, they had the caveman theme from Croconaw, but chose to jump back fruther to make it look like Totodile, for some reason? I really don't get why. 😢

[unborn elm]

Yes

[copper sequoia]

i love designs with 2 heads where one encases the other but mega feraligatr is just. Its not good

[unborn elm]

Love how one little feraligtr pic changed the whole convo to how shitty it is

[meager lynx]

They could have even used both ideas by making it more dinosaur like, while keeping the hood always down, with a caveman pattern on the body

[fickle birch]

Here's a Digimon that vaguely does something like Mega Feraligatr. 🙂

[unborn elm]

A lot of z-a megas feel under done

[fickle birch]

Yeah, that would have been enough for me. 😄

[copper sequoia]

This is purposefully goofy and it does a great job at that i love it

[unborn elm]

Also

[copper sequoia]

i also feel as if it's a nostalgia baity design because of how popular totodile is compared to ferligatr but i will keep my mouth shut

[fickle birch]

I think that's my issue with Mega Feraligatr. Feraligatr is such a deliberately cool design, but then the Mega is a badass crocodile that's got its head stuck in a toilet. 😢

[meager lynx]

I really like the hood idea for mega Fera, it was just badly executed, making the body more dinosaur like and keeping the hood always down would have made wonders for the design

[unborn elm]

Mega malamar is just non existent

I’ve seen 0 talk about it

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-legends-za-legends-za-malamar-malamar-pokemon-gif-14136439198133118086

[meager lynx]

Everyone likes him, he’s my friend

[fickle birch]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-true-but-he-shouldn't-say-it-he-shouldn't-say-it-marge-it's-true-simpsons-it's-true-but-he-shouldn't-say-it-gif-8456730939129432544

[unborn elm]

The stats are so so shitty tho

[fickle birch]

Everyone likes it, but the stats murder it. 😢

Plus the Shiny is hideous. 🙁

[charred sage]

the marketers love their first stage starter cutemons

[fickle birch]

Most Z-A Mega Shinies are really boring and don't change enough from the base designs. 😢

[robust wren]

Feraligatr was already popular all it's own, it didn't really need that

[charred sage]

can put em in most situations japan threw a pikachu into

[unborn elm]

So shitty

[copper sequoia]

Mega malamar is so fun it expands on a preexisting concept (ONE THAT DOESN'T COME FROM NOWHERE) and executes it really well if only it didnt suck

[unborn elm]

YES

[fickle birch]

Yeah but Gen IX introduced a new dopey crocodile starter and everyone loves it because it's adorable, so it feels like they tried emulating that. 🙁

[runic peak]

lmao thanks

[meager lynx]

I love Fuecoco

[robust wren]

Even then, Skeledirge has a pretty sizeable fanbase for being a cool crocodile

[meager lynx]

He’s so silly

[unborn elm]

Yes

https://tenor.com/view/fuecoco-pokemon-pokemon-day-fuecoco-pokemon-pokemon-fuecoco-gif-16752525841281364355

[runic peak]

i'm sorry for not liking you before fuecoco i thought quaxly would have a better evo

[fickle birch]

Skeledirge also has a fair few design issues that knock it down for me. 🙁

[robust wren]

Real quick, what the heck is up with Skeledirge's name? I love everything about it except the name. Skelegy was right there as a pun name

[charred sage]

and for being a closer to a species and not an individual character as a bunch of clones which is something I feel we haven't seen with starters since gen 5 lol

[desert current]

Surprised nobody is talking about this yet.

[robust wren]

We were

[runic peak]

we alr did

hatsune miku

[opaque osprey]

Mewtwo extra mission is already out

[fickle birch]

Gen IX names in general are pretty poor, honestly. 😅

[robust wren]

||baguette hair||

[fickle birch]

Klawf? Come on now. 😂

[opaque osprey]

Wonder what ball to catch with…

[desert current]

You have to scroll up A LOT to see it. 😅

[unborn elm]

My team for the dlc will be
Shalpha gallade with adamant nature(mega)
Shiny metagross with adamant nature(mega)
Alpha vaniluxe with modest nature
And shiny feraligatr with adamant nature(mega)

[copper sequoia]

i wish meowscarada was named meowscarade because it rolls off the tongue better

[fickle birch]

That's one of the ones I was refering to. So clunky. 🙁

I get why, because Spanish region. But like, they've never committed to the bit that much, and it actively detracts. 😅

Same for Sprigatito. Super long name for a one-letter link between two words of different languages. 😮

[runic peak]

sprikitty ~~ 🔥 🔥 ~~ 🌿🌿

[meager lynx]

Skeledigre is one of the best modern starter designs and it’s mostly cause the design it’s not just a fursuit

[copper sequoia]

skeledirge is whatever in my opinion but i don't really care for any of the gen 9 starters anyway

he would make for a fun model kit though

[fickle birch]

Agreed, it being quadrupedal is a huge plus. But the design is busy, and its flames are really ugly and awkward. 🙁

[brazen jetty]

I don't like skeledirge's 3d model

[opaque osprey]

Ok, looks like after downloading mewtwo side mission, going to Lysandre cafe B3 will start the mission

[meager lynx]

Skeledigre is probably like an 8/10, but it being part of the Gen9 trio makes it look so much better

[fickle birch]

I love my samba duck. ❤️

[copper sequoia]

(or he could just be like xerneas's model kit and be 90% stickers)

[brazen jetty]

the flames look like hot mac n cheese

[runic peak]

i like skeledirge because funny bird

[fickle birch]

But it is a little bit too humanoid, and the feathers just floating is weird. 😅

[copper sequoia]

i think skeledirge has too much going on

[meager lynx]

Specially if you put it side by side with the Gen8 starters

[fickle birch]

They're the worst trio, though. 😛

[brazen jetty]

the gen 8 starters are simple

[meager lynx]

Absolutely

[copper sequoia]

i like rillaboom

[fickle birch]

Don't post non-spoilered versions of the new stuff. 😛

[runic peak]

i wanna like inteleon because gun but it's way too humanoid

[meager lynx]

It could have been way better tho

[fickle birch]

It would have been so easy for them to be Grass/Rock, Fire/Electric and Water/Ghost. 🙁

[brazen jetty]

i dont like rillaboom because of competitive

[fickle birch]

And Inteleon is way too thin. Like, come on now. 😅

[meager lynx]

Imagine Gen8 starters but they have secondary typings

[runic peak]

inteleon is type gun

[copper sequoia]

i think its a clean evolutionary line, little monkey who likes to hit things with sticks evolves into big gorilla who likes to hit drums with sticks

[meager lynx]

Grass/Rock drummer Gorilla
The joke was literally right there

[brazen jetty]

also any ability that isnt grassy surge

[fickle birch]

I stand by the fact that Rillaboom is based on the Cadbury's Gorilla, which was a huge advert here in the UK. 😂

[meager lynx]

No I absolutely agree, I like Rillaboom, a second typing would have improved the designs a lot

[fickle birch]

The thing I don't like about it is that the drums just spawn, rather than being organic. It could have used rocks on its chest to create a percussive rhythm that's amplified by using sticks, or something? 🙂

[meager lynx]

They feel empty

[meager lynx]

Exactly

[runic peak]

i see

[meager lynx]

He could have even summoned a rock drum or smt

It would have made so much sense for him to hit the ground and create rocks on the form of drums

[fickle birch]

This advert made me a Phil Collins fan. 😂

[brazen jetty]

I forgot I still need to pick a body mon for secret spriter!

[meager lynx]

That’s literally my main issue with Gen8 starters, they’re not necessarily bad, but they could have been way cooler with just a bit more

[fickle birch]

I feel like in the past couple of generations, I've been a lot more underwhelmed with a lot more designs. Legends: Arceus in particular really didn't do much for me with a lot of the new designs. They all felt various kinds of half-baked. 😢

[runic peak]

imma just say i submitted smth silly for secret spriter

[fickle birch]

You can remember in another channel. 😛

[meager lynx]

Like I get the Spy idea for inteleon, but how about making it more reptile like, and making it either ghost, dark or poison

[fickle birch]

Drizzile is one of the worst Pokémon designs of all time. 🙁

[meager lynx]

There’s even a lizard that shoots blood from its eye, they could have implemented that idea but with poisonous tears or smt

[copper sequoia]

i love hisuian decidueye so much!!!! i love pokemon who don’t just use colors to signify their typing rather they use different context clues !!!!! i’m definitely not looking at sprigatito who is literally just a green cat!!!!!!!!

[runic peak]

i like ghost
so that it's more sneaky or smth

[fickle birch]

It's ugly, adds a bunch of weird, clashing colours to its palette, and doesn't tie in to anything to do with Inteleon, or even Sobble really. 😅

[robust wren]

Cinderace is a Zootopia background character that got lost in the wrong series and I refuse to believe otherwise

[runic peak]

i personally hate it 🙂

[meager lynx]

SPECIALLY CAUSE SOBBLE IS ALREADY CRYING AND DRIZZLE LOOKS POISONOUS

[copper sequoia]

Prison

[runic peak]

decidueye's my second fav starter of all of them

i don't like the hisuian

[brazen jetty]

regular decidueye wayy better imo

[fickle birch]

I saw someone say that ||Mega Lucario|| has ||two Barboach|| on its head, and I can't unsee it. 😂

[brazen jetty]

i dont like bird mons usually but i do like decidueye

[meager lynx]

And I hate when they give starters the ability to change types, that’s just favoritism

[brazen jetty]

probably cuz it doesnt look like a bird anymore

[copper sequoia]

you can’t compare 2 kings in my opinion

[robust wren]

Decidueye is in the sweet spot of starter anthropomorphization where the archer motif doesn't take anything away from the owl base

[fickle birch]

Also defeats the points of them, because they're meant to teach us the type chart. 😂

[runic peak]

hisuian decidueye looks so weird

[copper sequoia]

OUT OF ALL THE GEN 8 STARTERS WHY DID THEY GIVE PROTEAN TO THE SOCCER PLAYER AND NOT THE??? SPY??? THE CHAMELEON SPY WHO BLENDS IN WITH THINGS????

[meager lynx]

Exactly

[brazen jetty]

Ohh, will ||Mega Lucario be Water type?||

[fickle birch]

No, annoyingly. 😢

[robust wren]

Because Cinderace was the industry plant of Gen 8

[meager lynx]

It was cool for Greninja, technician would have been better but it was alright

[brazen jetty]

because it is libero, not protean

totally not the same thing

[meager lynx]

But then they did the same for the furry rabbit and the femboy cat

[copper sequoia]

Ok meowscarada makes sense because it’s a trickster magician thing but i genuinely don’t get cinderace

[fickle birch]

I still don't understand why they made a functional Protean clone for the rabbit, when a chameleon Pokémon is right there! 😠

[brazen jetty]

they nerfed protean so it's not even that good anymore

[runic peak]

y'know one thing I liked with mega charizard and mega mewtwo x and y was that you could choose between the regular pokemon's typing or a new one

[meager lynx]

Prankster

[fickle birch]

Could have at least given it Colour Change. 🙂

[brazen jetty]

I mean, Sniper also makes a lot of sense

[brazen jetty]

soccer or something idk

[fickle birch]

Agreed, and it's why the new Raichu especially really annoy me. They'd already introduced a new mono-Electric Mega in Eelektross, then the DLC adds 3 more when they could really benefit from additional types? 😮

[opaque osprey]

Ok, I managed to catch Mewtwo in a Premier Ball and || Auntie Mable will appear and reveal why Mewtwo is in Lysandre lab || Last pic is nightmare fuel

[meager lynx]

One of the Raichu Megas should have been the Alolan

Mega surfer

[runic peak]

They had the perfect opportunity to make electric fighting and make gorochu real

[brazen jetty]

The new raichu annoy me because they look terrible

[fickle birch]

Zeraora is literally the most Electric/Fighting Pokémon ever conceived, was made a monotype for some reason, and then its Mega doesn't even address the issue!

[robust wren]

Again, Cinderace was the industry plant out of the starters. It was the most marketed of the 3, the one set up the most to succeed in the meta, and the one used most prominently by an anime protag

[runic peak]

yes yes yes yes yes

[meager lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/raichu-on-chair-rolling-pokemon-gif-16134266

[runic peak]

🥞 🥞

[runic peak]

leaked mega raichu concept art

[copper sequoia]

growing up is realizing that charizard Y is so much better than X and is probably the best kanto mega in general

[brazen jetty]

mega raichu Y is the worst designed mega (except maybe pyroar) in my opinion

[fickle birch]

I'd have liked it if they did something like: 🙂

Raichu X: Electric/Fighting
Raichu Y: Electric/Fairy
Alolan Raichu X: Electric/Water
Alolan Raichu Y: Electric/Psychic

[meager lynx]

I don’t like Zeraora as a mythical pokemon, boring ass mythical that’s just a regular pokemon
What makes it mythical? That it’s a furry?

[copper sequoia]

It’s a wYvern that’s so awesome why do we need charizard x when Y is this cool

[brazen jetty]

because money

[meager lynx]

YES

[fickle birch]

100% agree, it's a Sonic OC that snuck its way into Pokémon. 😂

[meager lynx]

YES

[runic peak]

nah not 4 raichu megas just a regular and one alolan

[fickle birch]

Regional variants should be able to Mega Evolve too. 😅

[runic peak]

but we can't have that anymore

[meager lynx]

YEA

[fickle birch]

Okay, M. Bison. 😛

[meager lynx]

JUST IMAGINE MEGA GALARIAN SLOWBRO

[brazen jetty]

hot take I love zeraora and it's also really fun to use

[runic peak]

i love galarian slowbro

[fickle birch]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bison-street-fighter-yes-gif-3718772

[robust wren]

I've seen some people coping that it's supposed to be a squirrel from Norse mythology and was supposed to be released in Gen 6, but it doesn't look lime a squirrel at all

[runic peak]

arm cannon

[wispy kernel]

Protean (and Libero too) is the ability of industry plants

[meager lynx]

Probably just the same as regular Slowbro, but with purple ooze inside of the Shelder

Like it’s not even that hard to design

[fickle birch]

Every Pokémon whose counterpart can Mega evolve (Butterfree with Beedrill, Slowking with Slowbro, etc.) should also have Megas. Weird how they fixed it with Froslass, but made a whole new mess with the Johto and Unova starters. 😢

[copper sequoia]

Zeraora is weird because it feels like such a random choice?? and not even in the “oh here’s a glow up and a new take on an underrated shitmon” because zeraora released like twice in a limited event run, there’s no lore about it and nobody has any personal connection to it because it was literally designed to be a limited pokémon so why should i care that it has a mega

[fickle birch]

Spoiler. 😛

[runic peak]

big arm cannon

[flat ledge]

Oh wait we have to spoiler spoiler messages in this channel?

My bad

[wispy kernel]

Zeraora is basically a unite only pokemon at this point

[brazen jetty]

I don't really like the mega zora dedsign tbh
it's just shiny

[fickle birch]

Only for like a day, so people can find out the news themselves. 🙂

[meager lynx]

It’s literally because it’s ZeraorA in legends ZA

[copper sequoia]

Ahhhhhh that’s very funny

[brazen jetty]

which is my same issue with the gen 6 starter megas

except chesnaught that one is cool

[wispy kernel]

I like Zeraora tbh it’s design is nice and when I used to play Unite I mained Zeraora

[flat ledge]

Why is ||mega lucario z still steel fighting || spoilers for the announcement today

[meager lynx]

Hatsune Miku???

[brazen jetty]

||Water fighting was right there ||

[fickle birch]

Agreed on Greninja (even if base Greninja is in my top 5 favourite Pokémon), but Delphox really elevates the design by committing to the witch theme, I think. 😄

[copper sequoia]

and it should hit through protect

[flat ledge]

Even ||steel ghost || would work

[fickle birch]

The only two reasons I can think are that ||they didn't want it to lose Steel||, and ||they couldn't think of what type to give it||. 🙁

[meager lynx]

Yea, and he should have gotten an ability that allows him to hit through protect, and a multi hit move that always crits

Oh wait

[flat ledge]

Would still be worse than urshifu water since no item 😭

[wispy kernel]

||GHOST FIGHTING WOULDVE BEEN SO GOOD FOR IT ITS DOUBLING DOWN ON THE ANUBIS THING LIKE COME ON ITS THE GOD OF THE AFTERLIFE WHAT THE FUCK||

[brazen jetty]

anyways I haven't fully taken a look at it ||but I love fish-like anthro designs so i probably like it||

[copper sequoia]

It’s not a fish it’s just Blue

[wispy kernel]

||It is not fishy at all||

no fishy at all

[brazen jetty]

||it looks fishy ||

[desert current]

to be fair the tail is vageuly fish-shaped.

[copper sequoia]

EWWW THIS RENDER IS SO DOUGHY EWWWWWWWWWW

[brazen jetty]

||barboach hair||

[meager lynx]

HATSUNE MIKU???

[wispy kernel]

dude the renders suck ASS

[fast cypress]

||the only reason mega lucario z isn't mega lucario y is because they didnt want to rename mega lucario x||

[wispy kernel]

please give me sugimori art

the renders are so bad

[flat ledge]

I don’t feel like ||the company who could think of a whole design didn’t have any ideas about type, I just don’t think they bothered ngl, same with the raichus ||

[brazen jetty]

||Yeah alright I do think it looks good, the design at least||

[robust wren]

||I just noticed that the chest spike was twisted into a yinyang shape, and I have to ask why||

[copper sequoia]

||Someone needs to make barboach/lucario right fucking now ||

[wispy kernel]

||Z Mega Evolution is apparently a whole gimmick so||

[flat ledge]

Also delete the renders 😭 spoilers

[brazen jetty]

you do it

[fickle birch]

They're marked as such. 😛

[brazen jetty]

they're spoilered

[meager lynx]

Yea, every day Mega Charizard Z is closer to becoming a reality

[wispy kernel]

theyre spoilered

[copper sequoia]

No freaking way. z mega gigantamax tera is getting added to the game

[flat ledge]

Huh? They’re not spoilered on my side

I think my discord is bugging

[brazen jetty]

ok but the question is now

||What do we call the old megas? Mega Lucario XY?||

[fickle birch]

If you click them, they aren't spoilered, even if you scroll down and back up. 🙂

[wispy kernel]

Theres so many people who got so scared about Mega Charizard Z happening cuz of ||Grisham|| using a Charizard

[flat ledge]

I think you just forgo the ||z||

[meager lynx]

It’s Mega Lucario X cause its X shaped

[brazen jetty]

||does this mean they're all gonna be glass cannons ||

[fickle birch]

Can't talk about this, sorry. 😛

[wispy kernel]

I dont think we can talk about leaks

[flat ledge]

I never clicked them though 🤔

[robust wren]

||pretty sure we're not supposed to be talking about leak stuff||

[fickle birch]

[flat ledge]

Like when the messages were sent they appeared unspoilered on my end

[brazen jetty]

||yeah but if you do that then people dont know which oneyou're talking about ||

[fickle birch]

Do you have a setting that disables the option to spoiler images, or something? 😮

[brazen jetty]

I'm still sad that they didn't make mega victreebell a defensive monstre

[flat ledge]

I don’t think that exists?

[robust wren]

Woe, Hoenn Special be upon ye

[wispy kernel]

||Prolly just still Mega Lucario vs Mega Lucario Z. It’s just one letter||

[meager lynx]

I love Mega Victreebell’s design, it’s so funny

[flat ledge]

I don’t think gamefreak really care about convenience

[fickle birch]

I feel like people will just call ||Mega Lucario|| its original name, and ||Mega Lucario Z|| will become just ||Lucario Z||, or something like that. 😄

[brazen jetty]

It sounded so fun to use on balance and stall if it had corrosion and good bulk

[fickle birch]

Or, knowing how competitive players work, ||Zucario||.

[brazen jetty]

Mega Charizard Y? Nah, Yard

[meager lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-sukuna-gojo-mahogara-gif-4420703113752501151

[fickle birch]

Spoilers. 😛

[robust wren]

||Mark Zuckario||

[flat ledge]

I think gamefreak kinda dropped the ball on everything other than design(although even then they haven’t done great) with these new megas

[meager lynx]

||I was about to spoil it you ruined my joke ||

[brazen jetty]

there's only a few new megas that i like

[meager lynx]

Why did this sent spoiled

Blaq you glitched my discord

[copper sequoia]

and it’s CHIMECHO YEAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

Sorry i will not shut up about how good mega chimecho is

[wispy kernel]

i like most new megas

[brazen jetty]

Here's my tier list

[meager lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/i-mean-its-alright-gif-26963792

[wispy kernel]

I’m gonna make a new updated tier list

[fickle birch]

Chimecho is like a 9.9 out of 10 for me, I just wish the actual Chimecho body changed. 😅

Even slightly, like an extra stripe or something. 😮

[flat ledge]

The stat spreads are kinda whack for the weaker mons, the ||new Y/Z megas they’ve revealed don’t change type|| and a lot of the picks for megas have kinda blown, there are some great ones but it almost feels like they’re pandering to popular mons even more than before so outside of design the megas are kinda ass

[brazen jetty]

mega scafty literally just gains a hood, that's not a mega that's called dressing up

[copper sequoia]

I think they should keep forgetting about kommo o because i think it’s funny that way

every other psuedo got something except him

[brazen jetty]

anyways i need to eat so

[fickle birch]

I did an old Mega Chimecho sprite that I later went back to and updated, but I wish this was what the base looked like. 🙂

Then I redid it. 🙂

[meager lynx]

Hydreigon hasn’t

[fickle birch]

Considering I also designed ||a more Anubis-like alternate evolution for Riolu that was primarily black with blue and white accents||, I think Game Freak might be stealing my ideas. 😂

[fickle birch]

Iron Jugulis, technically. 😅

[wispy kernel]

it got a z move and two signature moves

[meager lynx]

Oh yea, true

[wispy kernel]

Dragapult actually hasnt gotten anything

[fickle birch]

Dragapult is the only one without anything now. 🙁

[meager lynx]

Forgot about it cause of how boring it is

[fickle birch]

And it has a lower BST than Hydreigon. 🙃

[meager lynx]

Kommo-O

[fickle birch]

Z-Move and signature moves. 😛

[copper sequoia]

iron jugulis

[flat ledge]

Dragapult got 142 speed 😭

[meager lynx]

Double darts

[copper sequoia]

nobody cares about iron jugulis but he is there

[wispy kernel]

actually yeah this should count

[meager lynx]

But yea Dragapult feels forgotten

[flat ledge]

I kinda don’t want dragapult to get something it’s already too good

[wispy kernel]

142 speed is crazy bro

just give it a gmax

[fickle birch]

Oh yeah, I forgot about Dragon Darts because more Pokémon get access to it in PokéRogue. 😂

[wispy kernel]

it’d make a lot of sense

and it wouldnt be too broken

[copper sequoia]

i love how they gave goodra a better goodra and it was relevant for a little bit only to immediately replace it with archaludon

[fickle birch]

An aircraft carrier G-Max would be pretty cool, honestly. 😄

[wispy kernel]

Archaludon is like top 3 pseudos for me

its so good

Love that guy

[fickle birch]

The thing about that is, it's not one. 😛

[copper sequoia]

Erm actually

Kai cenat bitcoin 🤤

[wispy kernel]

Free money !!!! 🤑🤑🤑

[fickle birch]

I know guys, I sorted it. 😛

[steel zealot]

Gotta love scammers

[fickle birch]

Gotta love a bot that posts two messages after a Mod posted. 😂

[wispy kernel]

+1 0+ SpA Archaludon Electro Shot vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mudkip: 646-760 (268 - 315.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[meager lynx]

I hope they give Archaludon a baby so we can actually call it the Cross Gen Pseudo

[copper sequoia]

:(

[meager lynx]

With one stage revealed in each gen

[fickle birch]

I've got a headcanon one called Buildinky. 😄

[storm bone]

Got ghost pinged

[fickle birch]

You should see how mad my headcanon doc is. It's like 10 tabs and expanding more by the day with movepools, type distribution charts and whatnot. 😂

I've had to create a bunch of duplicate Megas because Legends: Z-A picked so many ones I'd already designed Megas for.

[fickle birch]

Eelektross in B-tier?

[robust wren]

It's just alright. Don't hate it, don't love it

[meager lynx]

Mega Starmie is peak

[meager lynx]

Honestly I don’t like it
The idea is good, not fan of the execution, but it’s probably just the 3D Model

[robust wren]

It's peak as in "I want to strand it at the peak of Mt. Everest and leave it there forever

[flat ledge]

I’ll be real after the initial funniness wore off I’m just kinda sad that mega starmie is so basic

[copper sequoia]

a lot of the megas have weird faces especially eelektross

like i love the silhouette but i really do not like the random markings on the face

[robust wren]

Eelektross always had a weird face, kinda comes with the lamprey territory

[copper sequoia]

i’ll wait for the 2d art to come out before i make my final tier list

actually made me really like sneasler

[fickle birch]

Sneasler is I think in my bottom 5 Pokémon. 😢

[flat ledge]

The dots are a reference to eels

[wispy kernel]

I love sneasler

bro is kinda awesome

[meager lynx]

I don’t think we’re getting them

[copper sequoia]

Yes we will !!!! I swear !!!!!!! they made one for dragonite

[daring finch]

New mega dropped

Did yall see

[wispy kernel]

yeah its lame

[meager lynx]

And if we get them, they’ll probably just be traced

[daring finch]

They really just decided to give it drampas colors didnt they

[meager lynx]

Hatsune Miku???

[copper sequoia]

shoutout to the best 2d art of all time

Go girl give us nothing

[flat ledge]

I think we’ll just get a render from Pokémon champions and that’s it

[meager lynx]

Even if we get 2D arts, they’ll probably just be traced from the 3D model

They’ve been doing that since Gen8

[daring finch]

I mean its decent ig

[robust wren]

Same vibe

[fickle birch]

Dragonite's art is way better than the render. 🙂

[copper sequoia]

Still though it’s a style thing i’d rather see 2d art than the ugly 3d renders

[fickle birch]

Still wonky perspectives, but much more improved. 😄

[meager lynx]

Didn’t saw that one’ looks peak

[daring finch]

I still dont like mega drampa, but its drampa so I dont dislike it either

[meager lynx]

Skill issue

Drampa is Peak

And so is its mega

[flat ledge]

I love mega drampa

[copper sequoia]

mega malamar has like the best render though he has cool lighting and the featureless shiny texture actually works well for him and he’s freaky and it’s epic

[wispy kernel]

mega tier list

[copper sequoia]

ampharos :333

[wispy kernel]

thats my favorite guy of all time

god I love ampharos

[daring finch]

Question, do people dislike latios latias bc they are actually bad or bc they are the same?

[wispy kernel]

both

I dislike their designs and its not helped by the fact that theyre almost identical

[charred sage]

the former is mostly from the period where life dew was basically just better in most cases

but yea it is also a lot of the latter in places where items don't matter like GO and ZA (?)

[daring finch]

I do agree with the tierlist mostly but I would put mega slowbro in A tier, but for the rest its nice

[flat ledge]

I think it’s just because they’re too similar

Individually they’re alright

[daring finch]

I do like how they combine red and blue into a purple

[polar hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/miku-sigma-gif-10333189526871226494

[polar hatch]

absolute miku !

[brazen jetty]

But it's not worse i think

[brazen jetty]

why the maudino hate

[robust wren]

It's boring and I still have leftover resentment for the fact that it was the only Gen 5 mega for 10 years

[runic peak]

i'm worried that they won't do them since we've only gotten these renders 🥲

[desert current]

Its also worse than normal Audino because it loses Regenerator.

[jade ocean]

Unless you're talking about Doubles, that's not quite true

There's only 1 Mega worse than the base form and it starts with G and ends with P

[brazen jetty]

yeah i hate that

[desert current]

Nobody is wasting their mega slot on Audino in doubles...

[brazen jetty]

garchomp doesn'- wait

i am smart

[brazen jetty]

it's one of the better ones

which doesnt say a lot 😭

[jade ocean]

Nobody is wasting their team slot on Audino

You'll only see it in like... NU? PU?

What tier is Mega Audino in again?

[brazen jetty]

they should just give it regenerator

[jade ocean]

I forgot

[jade ocean]

True!

[desert current]

I would rate it 5 if not for the fact that its implied to be a bulky physical attacker for some reason (and it doesn't even change typing).

[wispy kernel]

give it hospitality

it could have a pretty cool niche in vgc

[jade ocean]

Remember when I said that if they were to make a ||2nd Lucario|| the only way to make it different enough is to either make it slow and bulky or swap types?

I was right

[brazen jetty]

whilst that is cool because you can late proc the mega to heal when its most needed, it's a doubles only ability

[jade ocean]

Assuming that it actually is bulky

And slow

[wispy kernel]

I don’t care about singles

[brazen jetty]

there shouldn't be doubles exclusive abilities
give them alternative effects in singles or something

[jade ocean]

If it isn't and it's literally just ||Mega Lucario 2|| I am going to die

[desert current]

Yeah...

[jade ocean]

Idk how I'd vote for it rn, I need some time to look at the design

[storm bone]

Finally finished the mega

[meager lynx]

Hatsune Miku???

[jade ocean]

Definitely more unique than ||Base Mega Lucario|| in design though, that's for sure

[opaque osprey]

Wonder if Shiny || Mega Lucario Z || will have Miku colors

[copper sequoia]

make it red so it can be teto

[runic peak]

that would be so peak instant 10/10

[jade ocean]

I'm unsure on if I'd say it's better or worse than ||Base Mega Lucario||

Based off of that, I'll give it a 4/5

Since I do think that I'd place ||Base Mega Lucario|| there

[clever quest]

||It reminds me of barboach||

[desert current]

What do you mean? It already HAS Miku colors XD

[wispy kernel]

woah since when were you orange

[clever quest]

Since
uh
November 30th

[warm knot]

I thought mega z would be just a joke

[jade ocean]

The Mega Z is real

I am legally obligated to not say anything else

[unborn elm]

THE MEGA Z

THE MEGA Z IS REAAAAL

[wispy kernel]

damn

thats crazy

[robust wren]

||a Defensive spin on Lucario will be interesting considering it's been a Glass Cannon since day one. Probably not going to be too good of a Pokémon in the mainline considering it will absolutely be muscled out of OU by Zamazenta, but it should be pretty good in the ZA meta||

||I also don't have too much faith in it even being that good of a tank given their idea of a glass cannon becoming a tank beforehand was Midnight Lycanroc||

[jade ocean]

True...

[warm knot]

I respect their restraint in not adding Mega Charizard or Mewtwo z

[desert current]

No, you're DEFINITELY not the one.

[warm knot]

ok bro

[desert current]

I just think its funny they put a Hex Maniac in the same building as the infamous Lumiose ghost girl.

[runic peak]

you never know

[desert current]

I dunno what's the point of drip feeding the events for Diancie and Mewtwo when it takes like five minutes to complete them.

I popped in, threw a master ball at mewtwo, and that was that.

[robust wren]

||The ZA protag getting chosen by Zygarde|| is probably the closest we're getting to a resolution to the whole "you're not the one" thing

[desert current]

What's funny is there's a Hex Maniac NPC you can fight in the Battle Zones at night who's dialogue is wondering about that. XD

I wish I could find a screenshot but idk how to google search it.

[robust wren]

I know there was one in ORAS, somewhere adjacent to Mt. Pyre

[jade ocean]

We are the one yippee!

[wispy kernel]

apparently mewtwo is good in ranked

for the first time in like 30 years

[jade ocean]

I mean there's literally like 4 Pokemon with over 600 BST without Mega

And 1 of those 4 does need an additional condition

So are you really surprised that Mewtwo is strong in a lower power metagame like this one?

Like if I dropped Quaquaval in Gen 4 OU it'd go fucking batshit crazy

(Assuming it has the tools it currently has)

You drop Regice in Gen 1 OU and it's getting banned in a day

Though to be fair

That's more so because of Gen 1's wacky mechanics

Meaning that Regice suddenly has 200 Special and a way to double it in Amnesia

And Boltbeam

[robust wren]

And Gen 1 Freeze assuing anything lives the first Blizzard

[jade ocean]

And Boom

I mean yeah it has 50 Attack but like that's still Gen 1 Boom

Ngl it'd be really funny to see Regice in Gen 1

[wispy kernel]

I’m gonna try to get mewtwo now

cuz I just got home from school

[jade ocean]

But yeah this is basically just dropping Mewtwo in OU

Alongside Zyggy, Xern and Yveltal

[wispy kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/kingambit-kingambit-horizons-gif-11343100130751931572

[jade ocean]

And a few Megas

[wispy kernel]

mewtwo in actual OU gets folded by kingambit

[jade ocean]

You say that as if it can't just switch to a teammate that can handle Kingambit, or that Kingambit can switch in

It also mutilates like every other Pokemon in OU

I reckon it'd go about as well as dropping Lugia or Solgaleo into OU

[wispy kernel]

but you need to consider

[robust wren]

Mewtwo gets Aura Sphere and outspeeds, so Gambit gets folded in a non-tera meta

[wispy kernel]

the agenda

[jade ocean]

It does faint to 0 fainted Sucker Punch if it has no bulk investment tbf

I also want to bring up the possibility of Mewtwo being ran on Stall teams

[wispy kernel]

I caught Mewtwo in the first ball

lmao

[jade ocean]

Because I remember that Mewtwo was running stally sets in early Gen 9 Ubers

[robust wren]

Something about Mewtwo on stall feels illegal

[jade ocean]

Man Ting-Lu has an illegal amount of bulk

What do you mean it lives +2 Mewtwo Grass Knot

[storm bone]

I Hope z megas have lore explanation of why they exist now

[unborn elm]

Yes

[edgy palm]

At least the new Mega Lucario can finally hug, right?

[edgy palm]

That thing would break the game as hard as Mega Rayquaza did if that were the case.

[jade ocean]

Lol no

[flat ledge]

ehhhhh nah

[jade ocean]

Its ass is not about to be breaking Ubers when they have Lugia, Giratina, Deo-S, Deo-A, M2, Lati Twins, Groudon (because of Drought) etc

[flat ledge]

like it'd be insanely good but there are still good mons back then, you have the deoxyses, creation trio, weather trio, etc

[vocal charm]

wait, i have to spend money to do online play? fuck that

oh wait that might be just private battles?

dammit

wait, not even for trading?

rip, completed dex 😔

[edgy palm]

What I meant is that if it were introduced in that generation it would tear it apart. Of course that Mon won't do that in this era :/

[jade ocean]

The only game you can obtain every Pokemon in its Pokedex in is Legends Arceus, unfortunately

[edgy palm]

Think about it, Aqua Step plus Moxie is basically Dragon Dance with one extra step.

[wispy kernel]

mega rayquaza isnt even the best guy from gen 6 tbh

Xerneas and the primals are better

[edgy palm]

And yet it's the sole reason why there's Ubers o.o

[indigo mango]

Z is so ugly

making me wanna puke kinda ugly

[jade ocean]

It is in Singles

[edgy palm]

Maybe its shiny redeems it?

[wispy kernel]

Really?

[jade ocean]

Which is the majn thing people refer to when talking about Mega Rayquaza

[wispy kernel]

damn

[jade ocean]

It was so broken, it created an entirely new tier above Ubers

But Xern and the Primals are better in VGC, I agree

[jade ocean]

(It is probably the 2nd weakest Pokemon to have ever been AG but that's besides the point)

[indigo mango]

did ZA update Mewtwos Model cause just saw a person post it in Game and it has such a baby face now, its so weird. lost all its edge

[edgy palm]

Yeah, Mega Rayquaza was a HUGE problem

Dragon Ascent pretty much OHKO'D anything that didn't resist it

And even if something did, the stupid thing still had Dragon Dance

[indigo mango]

in what way? like some games have mons in the code you cant get or like what was said above that you need online for some trade mons?

[jade ocean]

Online

[indigo mango]

ah then Arceus doesnt count either

you need to own 2 other games to get 2 mons

[vocal charm]

idk, all i know is the game wants me to spend even more money to do trades

[jade ocean]

You need to trade for version exclusives and trade evos

[jade ocean]

It isn't required for the full pokedex iirc

[vocal charm]

linking cables exist, though

[jade ocean]

They straight up don't appear in the dex if you don't have them

[vocal charm]

in Arceus

[jade ocean]

And you are still technically catching them in L:A anyways

[indigo mango]

talking about Dakrai and Shaymin

[vocal charm]

ah, well
i'm talking about trade evos

[indigo mango]

i know lul

[jade ocean]

It's like SV's Treat Legendaries

Where they don't have dex entries

And are thus not needed to complete the dex

[indigo mango]

it was said you dont need to own something else to finish the dex in Arceus unlike ZA where you need Online, but for Arceus i said you still need to own 2 other games for a full dex

[vocal charm]

i think it's BS that you need to spend more money to do that

[jade ocean]

Like I said, they technically aren't in the dex unless you catch them

[vocal charm]

i know there's a free trial, but still

[jade ocean]

You can complete the dex and catch Arceus and never know they existed

[edgy palm]

Don't forget that Mega Rayquaza could hold an item...

[jade ocean]

Meanwhile, for games like SV, you need HOME or Online to catch every Pokemon

[unborn elm]

Did they give mewtwo more physical moves?

[jade ocean]

Not to my knowledge

[unborn elm]

Cus idk if it always learned earthquake by tm

[jade ocean]

Mewtwo X is not allowed to have usable physical STAB

[jade ocean]

It did I believe

[unborn elm]

It’s got Brick break by tm and had psycho cut when I caught it

[jade ocean]

I specified usable for a reason

75 BP is kinda just trash now

[edgy palm]

Mewtwo can learn just about everything save for exclusive moves I believe

[jade ocean]

And 70 BP is worse

[unborn elm]

Darn

[jade ocean]

Don't worry! You can use Zen Headbutt with its 80 BP, too!

... And then miss

Because it isn't 100% accurate

[unborn elm]

This is my mewtwo

[jade ocean]

At least that isn't an issue in ZA, I guess...

[unborn elm]

Was still gonna go mega X

And yes I know bottle caps exist

[jade ocean]

X also has the additional "benefit" of losing to Xerneas

[unborn elm]

Could slap poison jab onto there

Or just

[jade ocean]

And while both X and Y lose to Yveltal, X does so in a way that will give it back all its HP

[unborn elm]

Switch

[jade ocean]

You could also nuke the fuck out of it with Psystrike though

Which sounds far funnier

[unborn elm]

Funny thing is

Icey the vaniluxe kinda fucked mewtwo up

Rest of my team was like 10-20 levels under

Also I love how mega mewtwo X is kinda just

fuck that psychic shit, run these hands

[wispy kernel]

a friend of mine thinks the best way to use mewtwo is no mega and just a shit ton of coverage

with expert belt

he’s actually good at stuff like this so I trust him ngl

[unborn elm]

So why is my first reward match against zach with a lvl 9 slowpoke?

Poor pikachu’s gonna get bit in half

[warm knot]

nah he'd win

[unborn elm]

Nope he lost

But in all seriousness why😭

[warm knot]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-sad-break-in-half-upset-gif-8957735

[wispy kernel]

comedy

every other reward match is against people on level with postgame stuff

its just that you fight Zach first and he still sucks complete ass

[unborn elm]

lol

[warm knot]

I feel like a lot of the new pokemon designs are too round and inoffensive in a way

Mega Lucario is so much more pointy where as Mega Lucario Z is so much more round

Same with a lot of the other ZA megas

[indigo mango]

Captain Obvious and No Shit Sherlock were on the Case

[silent halo]

Big brain

[jade ocean]

Because he's Le Z Éternel

Emphasis on Éternel

Am I insane or is he a direct reference to Glass Joe from Punch Out

I mean

[unborn elm]

Idk

[jade ocean]

• Extremely weak as a joke, serving as a tutorial that you probably don't even need to learn anything from to defeat
• 99 losses before their match against the MC, with their loss making it 100
• French

[unborn elm]

Damn

Lowkey

I feel like the z-a tutorial was mad long

[opaque osprey]

Ngl, seeing Mega Lucario reminds me of Shiny zygarde due to the colors

Which makes me have a theory that if Mega Z evolution also have the same color template, a shiny zygarde might have affected the world of Hyperspace lumiose which end up creating Z Mega stones

Or Hyperspace lumiose is actually a Alternate world where we ended up failing to defend lumiose from Ange and the result from Ange power and zygarde created Hyperspace lumiose

[warm knot]

A pokemon tutorial being too long? Say it aint so

[worn cobalt]

I used the Nintendo Switch app.

[unborn elm]

It ain’t so

[worn cobalt]

Just so you know, you can get repaired randomly with Le Z Eternale again. He never improves.

[noble ice]

Spoiler alert to anyone who hasn’t seen the new legends ZA DLC trailer.

||what’s your guys thought on Mega Lucario Z.||

[warm knot]

bad

[civic cave]

||hatsune mikario ||

[hazy knot]

awesome sauce

[noble ice]

||my same reaction||

[wispy kernel]

I dont really like it much

[unborn elm]

https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-miku-hatsune-miku-hatsune-washing-machine-gif-4863029126409914383

[clever quest]

||It definitely feels like it's supposed to be more feminine||

[jade ocean]

I actually have a poll for this somewhere in this channel for this exact reason, I want to know what people think about it

This is definitely not a poorly disguised way of me telling y'all to vote in that poll

[civic cave]

doodle

[unborn elm]

|| Just beat Zygarde in the post game on my first try ||

[tired crane]

I finally got the shiny charm and I got a shiny Bulbasaur too

so I at least have 1 shiny starter

I'm hoping to get a shiny Tepig one of these days

[radiant otter]

shiny hunting cleffa is fun. i love shiny hunting cleffa. nothing beats shiny hunting cleffa. why will this little moon baby not have green ears? why is everything else in this zone shiny?

[tired crane]

Because the start of the wild zone doesn't reach the Cleffa and Clefairies probably

you'll probably need to shiny hunt it by running past that little alleyway in the back to despawn and respawn them

[radiant otter]

i'm fast traveling spawning them in and flying back to spawn/despawn them

just pointing out my 12th shiny from this zone that isnt a cleffa

also theres supposed to be 4 spawns of cleffa/clefairy up there right

i have 3 and i feel like theres supposed to be 4

[robust wren]

||I've seen some people call Lucario a Shonen protagonist as a Pokémon and the original Mega Lucario as the superpowered evil side, so I guess this could be seen as the protagonist after their character development is complete and they achieve a brand new super form?||

||either way it's eh to me||

[robust wren]

I can see that argument for ||Zucario,|| but I feel like you can't really call the ZA megas smoothed over with Emboar, Drampa, Feraligatr, and Barbaracle as they are. Most of the ZA Megas besides those are also mostly Pokémon that it really wouldn't make sense to make extra pointy. Froslass, Clefable, and Meganium, for starters

I have plenty of criticisms for some of ZA's megas, but I feel like them being "too smooth" isn't one I would wage against most of them

Hell, in the case of ||Zeraora,|| being more spiky is one of the only noticeable differences

[opaque osprey]

Is the latest dlc trailer the final one before it release next week? Or will there be another one?

[warm knot]

That's true, but for some reason a lot of the pokemon introduced recently feel way too "Safe" for me in a way

I can't really explain it

[robust wren]

Most certainly the last.

[warm knot]

I don't think we can tell, there might be like one final small teaser on the day before but that's probably it

[supple fern]

Dino boi

[limber owl]

https://x.com/SplashPlateVGC/status/1995912655035322458

SplashPlate (@SplashPlateVGC)

Was editing Joey's Mega Lucario reaction video and someone in his chat made a great point

The Lucario on the right is the standard Mega, paired with Dragalge. Both have the Adaptability ability.

Soooo Mega Lucario Z on the left is shown with Clawitzer... Mega Launcher? 👀

X · Dec 2, 2025, 5:47 PM

[jade ocean]

That's actually a really cool theory

I wasn't looking that closely at the trailer and I'd probably wouldn't have looked too deep into it

But Dragalge's best ability is indeed Adaptability, and so is Base Mega Lucario's

And Clauncher's only ability is Mega Launcher

[robust wren]

Lucario with Mega Launcher would pretty much just spam Aura Sphere

[tired crane]

Congrats

[radiant otter]

anybody need/want a shiny clefairy?

[vocal helm]

Look at the cutie I just caught!💖

[worn cobalt]

My game is trying to distract me from spriting by telling me it found a shiny, but I checked and it's just a shiny dragalge.

[desert current]

Lucario learns every pulse move in the game (except Origin Pulse and Terrain Pulse)... So it would spam Aura Sphere, Dragon Pulse, Dark Pulse, and Water Pulse.

[radiant otter]

GREEN BIRD!!!

[noble ice]

||This is some BS that Mega Lucario Z is still a Fighting/Steel type!!!||

[worn cobalt]

What did you want it to be?

[wispy kernel]

||Fighting/Ghost, especially with them doubling down on the Anubis inspiration in it||

[noble ice]

||At least something else that’s not the same typing like fighting/psychic||

[storm bone]

Was in a graveyard catching every mon for my dex quest when I got a shiny gastly

[willow kelp]

||Wondering if the shiny is going to look good||