pokemon-winds-waves

[slate loom]

I dunno, it just started yesterday or so

ends the 26th

if you missed Greninjite then you get it for just playing in this season, and Delphoxite is at rank S. Plus the rewards for just playing seem so much better, I got random gold bottle caps just for playing

[umbral hawk]

what we thinking on

baxie here

[slate loom]

I forgot that was a pokemon ngl

Huh

that was like- the perfect match for Delphox

fought like- a heracross, a pikachu, and a gengar... I have never seen such squishy mons in this before

[willow kelp]

I don't like it 😅 But I don't like it's base version either

Was this just based on looks btw?

[opaque osprey]

Was thinking why they gave him a peen until I realise he got stabbed deep

[fickle birch]

I've just realised that ||Mega Chimecho|| is prime material for a ||Klefki|| fusion. 😮

[daring finch]

wait its that big jesus?

[lament glen]

yea

[storm bone]

Guys I think I got a frame perfect interaction because I was lanchign an atack and the traienr spotted me but they started he battle with a pokemon already knocked out

[plucky escarp]

ive had that, its funny

they had a 2nd mon and just switched it in but still funny

[opaque osprey]

Just realise that Golisopod is in the dlc and abilities doesn’t exist in ZA

https://tenor.com/view/golisopod-evil-evil-smile-gif-19275451

[storm bone]

Yes

[tranquil nexus]

They could still do something really funny

Like what they did to Aegislash

[storm bone]

Pre bake the ability in

[forest egret]

Reminder that you guys are free to talk about the officially revealled Megas here, but anything leaked needs to be spoilered

[storm bone]

Thank you

I Hope we get more gen 8 megas

[willow kelp]

Alright nice

[robust wren]

*Sad Regigigas in PLA noises

[tranquil nexus]

Ngl Regigigas in ZA would be kinda sick. His animation could start slow and get faster until he’s fully operational, and if he is ever legal in ranked I can imagine the panicked impromptu teamwork when some fool brings him out

[vocal helm]

@daring finch yes he’s a cute alpha

[hazy knot]

finally upgraded to the switch two version and it looks a lot better

Oh shiny garbodor hooray!

that was instant

caught it after it exploded 😭 i kinda forgor they could do that

Erm

[daring finch]

Skibidi

[hazy knot]

i was looking for a shiny fennekin, guess im killing the salamence on my team for this one

RIP a real one

[light agate]

it’s 7 hours in on my shiny drampa hunt without charm.

[kindred fiber]

I wish they gave regigigas a mega

[light agate]

This is a hellish hunt.

[hazy knot]

No Start: doesn’t attack ever

[kindred fiber]

Lmao

[woeful flume]

no obviously mega regigigas would get quick start: moves so fast it doesnt attack

[steel zealot]

My team and their names for ZA

Both CharLeMane and Jet Lag are alpha

[hazy knot]

My mega evolution dex is finally complete woohoo!

[amber monolith]

here's my legends ZA team, how would you guys rate it?

https://tenor.com/view/fresh-prince-room-empty-alone-will-s-mith-gif-11321840

i don't play legends ZA

[sharp sluice]

My Level 100 EV Trained Bottle Capped Nature Minted Mega Zygarde 100% using Nihil Light on some 8 year old's Lvl. 50 Arbok that he caught 4 minutes before queueing into Z rank:

https://youtu.be/l3T_X2E26sQ?si=OmDb-F6LA25p2EcA

[drifting pawn]

Has the bench reset or the fast travel method been effected by yesterday's update?

[gusty rock]

If they do that, maybe they’ll have the ability work the same as volt switch/u-turn/flip turn and just have Golisopod come to us instead of a forced switch out.

[gusty rock]

Idk

[storm bone]

MAYBE

[edgy palm]

When you realize that Jacinthe zones are just fairy circles to assert her dominance over dragons...

[edgy palm]

I mean, having Golisopod not being forced to switch would be nice.

Also his shiny is amazing

[gusty rock]

just like how she asserts her dominance over Lebanne in bed every night /j

[edgy palm]

She truly is a Fae. Change my mind

[tranquil nexus]

Any it canon that humans aren’t really all that different from pokemon?

EZ fairy type

I tried Xerneas in ranked. It’s kinda good but maybe actually a bit bad when you have three others dog-piling you the moment you throw out the pokeball.

Switched back to my normal team pretty quick

It is pretty sweet to score a rash of kills because the other two players are focused on the Xern

[jade ocean]

That's funny ngl

Like you can bring any broken thing you want and get away with it because they're hard targeting Xern

Mega Metagross about to slam everyone into the floor? Who cares, we got a deer to hunt

[desert current]

"Erm its AZ, not EZ" 🤓

(I'm just joking around I know what you meant)

[tranquil nexus]

Some jokes are just impossible to resist lol

[tranquil nexus]

Funniest part is that Metagross is kinda bad against Xern. Heavy slam is v weak against it, and a Geomancy’d Xern can just move away from it before it can do much else

Also because that’s what everyone’s running, there’s a shitload of counters for it showing up

[jade ocean]

Iron Head time

[tranquil nexus]

Steelix iron head time, specifically lol

[jade ocean]

Steelix I assume is because it can also hit other Steels with SE STAB?

And it takes opposing EQ's well too, with that Defence stat

[tranquil nexus]

Exactly. Plus STAB dig/eq is just generally good

[jade ocean]

Yeah, makes sense

How well does Excadrill do?

It's like the only other Steel/Ground I can think of

[tranquil nexus]

I’ve gotten eaten by it plenty, but I haven’t been able to make it work as well

[jade ocean]

It is specially frail, that's the main thing I'm thinking

[tranquil nexus]

Seems like people prioritize it

[jade ocean]

So it isn't as good at handling Xerneas

But it is physically bulky when Mega Evolved

110/100 I believe?

Something along those lines

[tranquil nexus]

110/100/65, yep

[jade ocean]

And is probably the hardest hitting of the Steels too, given it has 165 Attack

I think Megagross is at 145

Skarm at 140

Scizor at 150

Steelix is like 135 or something like that

125, mb

Aggron is also 140

Mawile is 147

[tranquil nexus]

The difficulty that I have with Excadrill is that when it’s not mega’d, it folds super easy

[jade ocean]

Lucario 145

[jade ocean]

Yeah, 110/60/65 or something like that?

[tranquil nexus]

It’s basically a walking “hit me” sign

[tranquil nexus]

Yep exactly

[jade ocean]

Mega Metagross' insane damage has always come from Tough Claws

[tranquil nexus]

At least in a 4-way ffa, I’m personally finding more value in running a mega steel user that can take hits on its own and mega when it’s opportune

[jade ocean]

So it's notably lower than other Megas now that it doesn't have it

Well, kinda

It still does beat out quite a few

But it isn't quite the hardest hitting Mega Steel Type

[tranquil nexus]

Heavy slam kinda carries it a bit

[jade ocean]

... To be fair, I think Mega Lucario probably also outdamaged it back then

Since it had Adaptability

[tranquil nexus]

It can absolutely eat Gallades and other lighter Pokemon

[jade ocean]

Heavy Slam's pretty cool if you're heavy and not fighting Legendaries

If you're fighting Legendaries though, then, uhh

As it turns out Legendaries are very fucking heavy

Primal Groudon Heat Crash hits like a paper plane

[tranquil nexus]

Which is why in the ffa I’ve found success ignoring xern and surprising others lol

[jade ocean]

And Pdon is the 2nd heaviest Pokemon of all time

Like .1 kg away from being at the seeming weight cap

[tranquil nexus]

The Xern player doesn’t have it out for very long, so it’s a very “seize the moment” kind of thing when it happens

[jade ocean]

(3rd kinda, since 1st is a tie)

[tranquil nexus]

Having ||groudon|| in this game is gonna be… interesting

Very weighty

[jade ocean]

Will it matter more than it normally does?

Because usually Weight based moves vs other Legendaries is a waste of a moveslot

And will Groudon even get Heat Crash in this game?

[tranquil nexus]

Sure, it’ll make a lot of lighter mons just completely non-viable if he gets the move.

[jade ocean]

I'm pretty sure Heat Crash is a TM move for Groudon

And currently there is no Heat Crash TM

[tranquil nexus]

Hopefully it stays that way

[jade ocean]

What are the odds that Gamefreak gives Groudon Flare Blitz

Pdon has been lacking usable physical Fire STAB for ages

[tranquil nexus]

And ngl I’m hoping that we get low kick (if we don’t already? I don’t remember seeing it anywhere)

[tranquil nexus]

It would def be funny

Except for being devoured by heavy slam, I’m having a fair amount of fun with Gallade and Ampheros (both non-mega) alongside whatever steel type I’m running

Bulk Up is actually pretty sick in this game

Especially when combined with close combat

[marble crater]

Soooo the alpha gorgeist that keep s kicking my feraligatrs teeth in just sparkled

Send help

[desert current]

WHY IS EVERYTHING WEAK TO GROUND?

[marble crater]

nevermind i caught it we're good

[worn cobalt]

I need a shalpha metagross, but I don't know I have the patience to get a shalpha metagross.

[tranquil nexus]

What happens when wheezing’s Neutralizing Gas is pumped into fantasy Paris

[sharp sluice]

No

Serperior, Krookadile, Feraligatr.

Mega Baxcalibur, movie theatre.

[tranquil nexus]

Oh that’s pretty

[worn cobalt]

I need to evolve some of the shiny mons I got so I can dex them.

[wispy kernel]

I cant wait for the rest of the official art of ZA characters to be released. I need it so much. Especially Lebanne’s art please

[little nacelle]

i miss

[wispy kernel]

baxcalibur jumpscare

[little nacelle]

i mizz ||AZ||

[wispy kernel]

I want the 2d art of the new megas too. the renders are fucking ugly

[worn cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/frozen-disney-olaf-josh-gad-impaled-gif-3597323

[little nacelle]

the only one we have is Mega Dragonite lol

[little nacelle]

wdym fire punch is bad

[wispy kernel]

more like dragomid

[worn cobalt]

dragoday?

You know, I bet Ivor could ||Swing mega Baxcallibur like a sword, from the handle on its chest.||

Two handed maybe though.

[jade ocean]

He probably could tbh

[worn cobalt]

||"I need the power to break all walls, even illusory walls." -Ivor|| Yeah, a guy who's goal is to ||Punch illusions away||, seems he could do it.

While my favorite gym leader is still Larry (long may he reign) (and have his reign forced upon him), ||Corbeau|| is arguably my favorite "evil" team leader. Exactly how I would want to be if I was a villain.

[edgy palm]

Ah yes, Corbeau. The dapper antihero. He's definitely a favorite. My favorite gym leader remains Elesa and that won't change anytime soon.

[warm knot]

I love paying more money for things that should've been in the base game

[limpid spade]

finally got my shiny alpha salamance thank god

[grave dock]

I'm looking for someone to swap trade evolutions with - I have scyther, swirlix, spritzee, and kantonian slowpoke all ready to go with their evolution items. I also have a kadabra. Does anyone want to trade 1-on-1 for any of those?

found an alakazam, nvm on that one

[warm knot]

Why does ||Baxcalibur|| even get a new mega? It just came out

||Where's my Kommo-o mega||

[edgy palm]

Aegilash is crying in a corner

So man Megas that could have been

[warm knot]

Why are they giving megas to gen 9 pokemon what is this

https://tenor.com/view/thisfknsucks-gif-4830928249555242381

[hazy knot]

His name is rice

he strong

[edgy palm]

|| I guess it's just making sure each pseudo gets something?||

[desert current]

Poor ||Kalosian Goodra|| rotting in the corner...

[desert current]

You could use the community trade codes if you're just looking to get them in the dex

[jade ocean]

Goodra still not getting a Mega is foul

[warm knot]

Not all megas are created equal

Hydregion got a Paradox Form sure, but it's the ugliest, most creatively bankrupt Paradox Form in the game

[surreal belfry]

I’m holding back jokes

[hazy knot]

Rice is not to be joked about

[surreal belfry]

I’m being nice but it’s really hard

[hazy knot]

[woeful flume]

does he fry shrimp or rice?

[hazy knot]

shrimp

[woeful flume]

so its a shrimp named rice who fries shrimp

[jade ocean]

Idk though, Flutter Mane exists

[warm knot]

Flutter mane is awesome how dare you

[woeful flume]

flutter mane the goat

[jade ocean]

Flutter Mane is literally just Misdreavus with more hair

My ass will slander it for as long as I breathe

[woeful flume]

but like 1000x better

[lime void]

Why wouldn’t they give megas to Gen 9 Pokémon?

[jade ocean]

Competitively speaking, sure!

Which is part 2 of why I hate it

[warm knot]

They just came out they don't need something extra

[woeful flume]

and looks

[jade ocean]

It's so fucking overtuned and unfun to fight

[warm knot]

I like when megas are used to give old pokemon something new

[jade ocean]

So what you're saying is that if they gave Iron Jugulis long hair it'd have been peak

[robust wren]

Iron Jugulis isn't ugly, just extremely dull. Which I would argue is worse

[warm knot]

Not when they give a new and popular pokemon another powerup

[woeful flume]

i cant remeber all the paradox mons only the good ones

[lime void]

Gen 7 and 8 Pokémon got Z-moves and Gigantamax forms respectively in their debut generation, so why can’t Gen 9 Pokémon get stuff in Z-A

[woeful flume]

mainly most of the past paradoxs

[warm knot]

That's not even close to the same thing and you know it

Megas are not a gen 9 thing

[jade ocean]

I dont believe I'd let being a new thing prevent mons from getting stuff

But being String?

Thanks autocorrect

But being strong?

That should certainly prevent you from getting a Mega

Yet, here we are

[lime void]

Doesn’t mean Gen 9 mons should be precluded from megas

[jade ocean]

And BAXCALIBUR of all things gets a Mega

The Pseudo Legendary that needed a buff the least

This is truly a moment of all time

[warm knot]

I disagree

[jade ocean]

They could've given it to any other Pseudo Legendary not named Dragapult and I'd have 0 issues with it

[warm knot]

What a letdown

[jade ocean]

But BAXCALIBUR?

[warm knot]

Every new thing to come out of pokemon makes me care about it less and less

[lime void]

Considering that every pseudo legendary in the first 4 Gens has a mega, clearly being strong doesn’t preclude you from getting a mega

[jade ocean]

Yeah but you could at least make the argument that Metagross, Mence and Ttar are struggling to a degree

Well, in Gen 9

In Gen 6 yeah no only Metagross is comprehensible

Maybe Salamence as well idk

[woeful flume]

goodra, kommo-o, hydreigon, and dragapult all crying cause baxcaliber got a mega before them

not that dragapult needs it

[jade ocean]

I'd say out of the Pseudos that don't already have a Mega, only Hydrei and the 2 Goodras wouldn't make me scratch my head in confusion if they got a Mega

Kommo-O's pretty fucking strong as is

And Dragapult and Bax are literally just

[lime void]

Unfortunately, regional variants don’t get megas

[jade ocean]

The top 2 Megas

[woeful flume]

i doubt hisuian will ever get a mega at any point cause kalosian goodra is the main form

[jade ocean]

Top 2 Pseudos *

Brain not worky

Yet the latter got a Mega

Incomprehensible, may Arceus have mercy on your wretched soul

As for Gen 9 mons that I wouldn't complain about getting Megas...

Quite a few of them I'd rather get evolutions

[woeful flume]

mega tinkaton.... EVEN BIGGER HAMMER

[jade ocean]

I could see futureproofing with the Paldean Starters

But all of them are already very good Pokemon

So they don't need it

[lime void]

Better yet, have it dual wield hammers

[jade ocean]

Pawmot's pretty fucking mid I could see it getting a Mega

Arboliva as well

[woeful flume]

clodsire

mega

[jade ocean]

Not quite weak enough to get a Mega quite yet imo

And I'd rather it get a normal evolution

Preferably alongside Quagsire

Tinkaton doesn't really need a buff either

[woeful flume]

or give us a form for spheal like eternal flowette and give that spheal a mega

[jade ocean]

Not yet at least

Yeah no most of the 3 stage Pokemon are already pretty strong

[lime void]

Plus, the Wooper just got a regional form, it doesn’t need anything else for a while

[jade ocean]

And a lot of the weaker mons are 2 stage

And should probably get an evolution instead

Mega Wo-Chien frfr on god

And specifically only Wo-Chien

Dududunsparce that just has a few more segments and then Mega Dududunsparce that has a shitload of segments

[jade ocean]

Also, no

[woeful flume]

yes

[jade ocean]

I'd rather give a Mega Evolution to Walrein

[woeful flume]

welrein can get a mega too

but like mega spheal

[lime void]

Just give Walrien the mega

[jade ocean]

Florges also should've gotten a Mega tbh

[woeful flume]

https://tenor.com/view/spheal-spheal-clap-spheal-happy-gif-7145371587471951373

[jade ocean]

That said Floette Eternal is basically just an Urshifu-Level Legendary

Except less minmaxed

[lime void]

We don’t need anymore alternate forms with a different number evolution stages

[jade ocean]

Since it's a Gen 6 mon technically

Mega Goodra not existing is such a fucking crime

Goodra is so incomprehensibly worse than every other Pseudo Legendary

And if you think "Oh that's not comparable they don't have similar roles" then let me direct your attention to Dragalge

Who has an extremely similar role to Goodra

But is just BETTER

And has a Mega anyways

[woeful flume]

we need a pokemon with anit-gravity ability or move

[jade ocean]

Dragalge isn't even that good btw

Goodra's just that bad

[wispy kernel]

guys I just learned that Golurk has only 483 BST. what the fuck

[jade ocean]

Ferrothorn, Amoonguss and Toxapex all have less than 500 BST

Just saying

[woeful flume]

mega golurk is a need

[wispy kernel]

Golurk is a pretty late game guy though

Those you can all get far earlier on

[jade ocean]

True, it isn't comparable

Golurk is later game, and also far worse

[wispy kernel]

But Golurk is like. pretty damn late

Lycanroc has a higher bst for fucks sake

you can get rockruff like 2 hours into gen 7

[jade ocean]

It's like Mega Malamar being like, the 2nd last Mega you unlock before Postgame

[woeful flume]

golurk is so cool for it to be really bad

[jade ocean]

All that work for mf Mega Malamar 💔

[wispy kernel]

correction: its post game only

[jade ocean]

Wait fr?

[wispy kernel]

yeah

[jade ocean]

I assumed you'd be able to buy it after beating Emma

[wispy kernel]

nope

[edgy palm]

Golurk, if used correctly can be nasty

[jade ocean]

Nah, that's fucking vile

[wispy kernel]

Gotta beat the final boss for Mega Malamar

[jade ocean]

They really just put Mega Malamar in the postgame

[wispy kernel]

same for Pyroar

the two most underwhelming megas

[jade ocean]

That's wild

[woeful flume]

mega pyroar is ugly but its shiny is pretty nice icl

[wispy kernel]

“The Lion does not concern himself with good stat allocation” - Pyroar, 2025

[jade ocean]

It's crazy that 20 in every stat > whatever Malamar got

[edgy palm]

They should have given Pyroar a different look based on gender...

The mega that is

[wispy kernel]

highest stat is 120 in special defense

that is

really

really bad

for a mega

[jade ocean]

You don't need to say that

Well, look on the bright side!

It does increase Attack and Defence with Superpower

[wispy kernel]

it might lose contrary

[woeful flume]

it better get a good ability in the base games

[jade ocean]

The only way it loses Contrary is if it gets As One (Simple + Contrary)

[wispy kernel]

idk I feel like its pretty possible

[jade ocean]

I do not

[woeful flume]

that would be broken

[jade ocean]

Well, maybe a Special Huge Power could happen

[jade ocean]

Consider this:

It's on Mega Malamar

Have you SEEN

Mega Malamar's stats

[wispy kernel]

probably wouldve had +140 to it’s stats then

[jade ocean]

And oh god that typing

[jade ocean]

True...

[wispy kernel]

Medicham Mawile and Starmie all got it

[jade ocean]

Yeah idk man Malamar's cooked

[edgy palm]

What typing did it get?

[wispy kernel]

Same as regular Malamar

[jade ocean]

The same garbage as before

[wispy kernel]

Dark/Psychic

this mf gets cooked by weedle

[jade ocean]

0 fucking resistances

[woeful flume]

x4 weak to bug is wild

[jade ocean]

And an immunity to a quite frankly aggressively mid type

One that it has, funnily enough

And guess what?

It gets the shortest end of the stick possible

By being not just a Psychic type, but a PHYSICAL Psychic type

[wispy kernel]

only two weaknesses which isnt bad

however its 2x weak to the best type in the game and 4x weak to the type of the best move in the game

[jade ocean]

Because let's be real, it's just gonna continue running Contrary Superpower

Limited number of weaknesses means fuckall if you have 0 resistances

[wispy kernel]

even if it keeps contrary its probably gonna be worse than regular malamar man

does any other type combination have actually 0 resistances

[woeful flume]

its bad enough that psychic resists itself so having an immunity and resistance is just bad typing overlap

[jade ocean]

Normal

[wispy kernel]

I said combinations but whatever

[jade ocean]

Yeah idk lol

[woeful flume]

wheres our bug/steel mega evo

[jade ocean]

There is 1 type combo I can think of that only has 1 resist

And guess what?

[lime void]

Scizor

[jade ocean]

It still has the fucking Psychic type

Psychic/Normal

[woeful flume]

bulky bug/steel

[jade ocean]

Psychic kinda just has horrible type combos for the most part tbh

Probably even the worst average type combos of all

[wispy kernel]

psychic had such a horrendous fall off

[jade ocean]

I cannot for the life of me name 1 excellent type combo with Psychic in it

[wispy kernel]

it needs to be studied how much it fell from grace

I mean like. steel/psychic isnt. too bad? I don’t think?

[jade ocean]

Only good ones at best

[woeful flume]

psychic ghost so it can get ohko'd by any ghost or dark move

[jade ocean]

Steel/Psychic is good, Water/Psychic is good, Poison/Psychic is good

But are they like

Grass/Steel good?

Bug/Steel good?

[wispy kernel]

definitely not fairy/steel good

[jade ocean]

Ice/Ground or Ice/Electric?

[wispy kernel]

is arctozolt our only ice/electric type?

I cant think of any others

[jade ocean]

Rotom

[wispy kernel]

barely counts

[jade ocean]

But it does

There's Normal/Ghost for Normal, that's another type you often see in the bottom tier

[woeful flume]

bug/steel only had 1 weakness but its 4x

[jade ocean]

I guess I can't think of anything exceptional for Rock either at least

But Rock's like

Actually good offensively

[wispy kernel]

rock fighting is it’s best I think

[jade ocean]

So there's probably some type combo with it out there that goes crazy

Psychic's kinda just mid on all fronts

Mid may even be a bit generous to it

[wispy kernel]

ok well you cant say that

you cannot forget psyspam

and the terror it inflicts upon us all

[jade ocean]

The only thing Psychic has going for it is Expanding Force and good stats on its Pokemon

[wispy kernel]

psychic terrain is really good

[jade ocean]

It's really good *If you happen to be able to abuse Expanding Force

[wispy kernel]

no even without it its really good

[jade ocean]

Without it it's just on par with Electric and Grassy imo

[wispy kernel]

blocking priority is really good

[jade ocean]

We don't talk about Misty Terrain

[jade ocean]

That it is

With that said the number of times I've seen someone click priority moves in Psychic Terrain that they set is

Concerning, to say the least

[wispy kernel]

people are not very smart

[jade ocean]

But yeah no Psychic is kinda just horrid in terms of the type chart

[woeful flume]

no we arent

[jade ocean]

Nothing about it stands out

[woeful flume]

the only terrain i can fully remeber is grass cause it heals and thats it

[jade ocean]

And that shines clearly in its actual type combos

[wispy kernel]

electric terrain blocks sleep

psychic blocks priority

misty blocks all statuses + halves dragon moves

[jade ocean]

All the terrains boost their own type except for Misty, which halves Dragon moves instead

[wispy kernel]

but it doesnt boost fairy type moves

[jade ocean]

Despite the fact that both Misty Surge mons are Fairies

Very smart 👍

[wispy kernel]

fuck dragons in particular

[jade ocean]

Misty also blocks all status conditions

[woeful flume]

fairies really hate dragons

[jade ocean]

Eterrain blocks Sleep

[woeful flume]

with a passion

[jade ocean]

Psychic Terrain blocks priority

[wispy kernel]

tbh I think they probably wanted to avoid it synergizing too much with fairy aura

[jade ocean]

And Grassy Terrain heals while halving the damage of certain Ground moves like Earthquake or Bulldoze

[wispy kernel]

terrains were introduced in the same gen as xerneas

[woeful flume]

doubles one with fairy aura and misty terrain

[jade ocean]

They also only work on grounded Pokemon

That's something I see a lot of people forget

Like Ghost/Psychic is just Ghost but worse

[woeful flume]

now 4x weak to ghost and dark is horrendous

[indigo mango]

how does Emma know what the mega stone is called but not who Diancie is. is she stupid

[wispy kernel]

she lost all her braincells dealing with ivor

[jade ocean]

Fair enough

[warm knot]

I can't wait for mega terapagos

Or mega eternatus

Or some bullshit like that

[lime void]

They’re not doing either of those

[jade ocean]

If they did those I'd implode

Well, probably not Terapagos

I mean it is the same BST as its Tera form

And that form wasn't THAT batshit crazy

Mega Eternatus would be horrifying

It'd have the highest BST in the game, at 790

[warm knot]

yet

If they did mega baxcalibur nothing's off the table

We could get a mega miraidon/koraidon

I'm ngl that could be interesting but I'd prefer it if it didn't happen

[desert current]

Perhaps... But Mega Zygarde broke the standard of having 100 extra stats, they only increased it by 70.

Who's the say they wouldn't do something similar for Eternatus if it got one?

[radiant otter]

can someone help me evolve my shiny spritzee please?

[hazy knot]

I can

[radiant otter]

i sent you a code in your dms

[hazy knot]

alr

[desert current]

I've been looking for shiny magikarp in zone 2... I've gotten Budew, Patrat, and now a Binacle.

The game really just giving me everything except what I'm looking for.

Seriously, there's so many Magikarp spawns, and yet the only ones that shine are the ones that aren't magikarp

[polar root]

Finally completed 1000 battles my goodness

[radiant otter]

idk if this would be easier but fly spamming to care truck 2 just below zone 12 has 3 magikarp spawns that are within the 50 meters

can also get swirlix spritzee ariados bergmite and gastly at night

[jade ocean]

One has 600 BST and is basically OUBL, bad in Ubers but too strong for OU

The other 2 are like

An AG Pokemon and one of the top 3 non AG Pokemon ever, each with like 670 BST

They are not the same lmao

[radiant otter]

technically 4 magikarp spawns actually, there’s one in a little pool if you look left then take a right

as well as scatterbug spewpa and 3(?) patrat

[desert current]

That sounds like fewer magikarps and more opportunities to phase...

I don't have any macro controllers or anything fancy, so doing it manually with those methods gets very boring very quick for me.

I'm basically already doing it, just walking across the bridge to check the other spawns, so its kinda the same but less mind numbing

[radiant otter]

yeah that’s fair patience is helpful when fly spamming

but every once in a while i’ll turn around while im looking for swirlix and get a karp

[gray robin]

whats the best way to shiny hunt bc my planned post game/dlc team plan is mostly rarer shinies

[radiant otter]

depends on what you’re looking for

[gray robin]

planned team (all shiny): Greninja, meganium, Hawlucha, chandelure, eelektross, metagross
save scum willing

[radiant otter]

greninja you can fly spam zone 5 or fly to 16 and walk in

meganium you can do in 20 but i think that one mostly comes from bench resetting

the other 4 can be alphas in zone 20

you can bench in zone 10 for tynamo

metagross you can tp spam in the labs

hawlucha is a great question though

[gray robin]

is trying to get them via the alphas actually the best way

[radiant otter]

for hawlucha probably

chandelure to i’m not really sure if the sewer method for it

might just be running and despawning them

i personally have been doing chandelure as an alpha in zone 20 though

lampent in 17 is there also but idk how viable that is because it’s night only

[gray robin]

should i just bench reset in zone 20 till i get 2-3 of the ones i can there

[radiant otter]

yeah that’s probably your best bet

[gray robin]

and at the very least the pear

i do already have a shiny stunfisk

[warm knot]

But think about the money they could make by selling it as dlc

[hazy knot]

SHINY CHESPIN HOORAY YIPPEE! only took a few resets!

Oh wait there’s another shiny here

diggersby spawned at the same time

[vocal helm]

Look at that size difference

[woeful flume]

ayo

why you just steal my target like that

ive been hunting chespin all week

9 shiny diggersbys

[plain valley]

I've been hunting Froakie for like

so long

I have gotten

So many Flaaffys

[hazy knot]

tip: just found out you can use the same trick used in zone 20 that lets you find 6 alphas at a time. I can only get it to 5 spawns, but 6 should be possible. idk if you’re already using it, but basically, clear out the pyroar, bring 3 diggersby up the stairs, save the game, bring them to the gate, save again, then reverse the process

might need to look up a video on it or something cause that explanation sucked

vengeance on the pyroar

rice is level 100 now

[jade ocean]

You're telling me a shrimp fried this rice?

[hazy knot]

Rice fried that shrimp, actually

no, actually rice fried those lions

[jade ocean]

Mmm cannibalism

[radiant otter]

bruh why are there 2 fletching here😭

[tranquil nexus]

I’m beginning to suspect that there might be cheaters in ranked

I’m kinda puzzled how a Chickorita no-sells Gallade’s plus fire punch

[hazy knot]

chikorita in ranked is crazy

[tranquil nexus]

Huh. Yeah, giving chickorita and gallade the best case, gallade just doesn’t get there

Using the damage calculator

But why chikorita

And not Bayleaf

[robust wren]

"The best trainers win with their favorites" or something IDK

[radiant otter]

yeah there’s people running around with mons beast balls and alpha xerneas

[robust wren]

Willing to bet there's a bunch of shiny alphas running about Online named after websites

[radiant otter]

that’s probably why there’s no wonder trades in this game

nearly every wonder trade in sv was a hacked shiny named after a website

and they were trade evos so you sit through the evolution screen

[robust wren]

I wish Nintendo would take an axe to those websites instead of fangames people enjoy

[jade ocean]

They probably do to some extent

Just that there's quite a lot of them

It's like those cashgrab Pokemon games on mobile app stores that are incredibly low quality and copies of other games for other franchises

[hazy knot]

okay wait rice kinda cooked in ranked though

ill be honest i thought he would suck but his small hitbox helps

HE JUST SOLOED A DRAGONITE

AND GLACEON

THIS IS SO FUNNY

rice stays winning, that’s enough for tonight lmao

[noble ice]

Well have been trying to get shiny Meditite but instead of that I got a shiny Alpha Houndoom.
Up for grabs to anyone who wants it.

[plain valley]

I finally got a Shiny Froakie

That hunt took forever man

[plain valley]

I'll trade ya an Alpha Shiny Ampharos/Barbarcle for it, ended up getting a couple of those during the Froakie hunt

[plain valley]

my ass goin' to bed it's 4:30

[wispy kernel]

Yall Yveltal kinda crazy in ranked ngl

[royal dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squidward-gif-21621168

[wispy kernel]

guys I got my first shiny alpha

or like. at least like 80% sure I did

yup

I dont know how to catch this I didn’t think this far

[royal dagger]

Master ball obviously

[wispy kernel]

but like what if I wanna use it on something else

[royal dagger]

I forgot the "/s"

[wispy kernel]

I got it

I love her

shes so awesome

[tranquil nexus]

One of the best shinys

[radiant crater]

Now when I think about it,this guy doesn't look that bad

[harsh oasis]

He just has to keep his mouth shut

[drowsy veldt]

Why did I read this like mega feraligatr works for the mafia and knows too much.
-# hence, has to keep his mouth shut

[wispy kernel]

I cant believe Mega Feraligatr got a job with the rust syndicate

[edgy palm]

I chose Feraligatr for my second playthrough. The Mega really isn't that bad. And it gets Dragon Dance I think, right?

[plucky escarp]

it may be a toilet seat, but at least it dances

[harsh oasis]

Cause that's totally what I meant, mhm

My wish for a rank was actually to join the mob

[edgy palm]

It'd be funny if when its shiny mega evolved it turned gold

Then it could be a golden toilet seat

[wispy kernel]

guys what should I name a shiny sylveon

[tranquil nexus]

Does anyone else feel like sometimes the game just won’t accept your inputs while playing online?

[tranquil nexus]

Jaque

[edgy palm]

I absolutely LOVE how unhinged Mable is. If cursing wasn't censored, I could see her swearing up a storm and it would be hilarious and so fitting.

[wispy kernel]

Canari is still winning in the cursing game

getting at least 4 swears, possibly more

[empty hinge]

Chat hear me out I think bois should be a pseudo legendary or get his own form

Like ash’s Greninja it could be bois the heracross with insane stats

[wispy kernel]

this implies that bois isnt already a legendary

[empty hinge]

Nah he’s not in his final form yet

[wispy kernel]

also Bois isnt special because of having a distinct advantage over other Heracross, it is his intense loyalty and determination that sets him above the rest

[empty hinge]

And the fact I’ve never seen a heracross be able to solo that many pokemon

[wispy kernel]

this is true bois lore you need to catch up smh

[empty hinge]

Bois mega x and y when

[autumn shore]

Ok mega diancie is good but where is volcanion?
I love volcanion I can't believe they are nowhere in the pokedex not even a mega stone!!!

[finite totem]

I dont wanna watch dlc trailer can someone just quickly summarize?

[wispy kernel]

nowhere

not even in the game right now

you wont even be able to get it via home

[wispy kernel]

Little girl who looks strangely like Diantha who’s best friends with Hoopa shows up and makes donuts that make your pokemon go above level 100 temporarily and also Hoopa sends you to other dimensions where theres cool awesome guys also Korrina is back with a kinda ugly design and also theres mega Chimecho and Baxcalibur

[finite totem]

is there gonna be a 2nd part (like crown tundra or indigo disk)?

[jade ocean]

I am pretty sure that it does have data for it in the files

Like uhh

65% sure

[wispy kernel]

I don’t think so

[jade ocean]

Which is more sure than unsure

So good enough really

[wispy kernel]

not that we know of

nevermind Volcanion apparently is in the game

[jade ocean]

Anyways ngl Volcanion's kinda GOATed already

[wispy kernel]

just not available yet

[jade ocean]

So it isn't extremely urgent to make a Mega for

[wispy kernel]

and yeah no mega for it

[jade ocean]

I mean I say that but they gave BAXCALIBUR a Mega

[wispy kernel]

there’s no data in the game for obtaining Volcanion so either it gets added in the DLC or it’s actually just a home transfer exclusive

same with Hoopa but Hoopa is far more obviously DLC

[trim badge]

Is anyone willing to mirror trade for scizor?

[hazy knot]

sure

if you still need it

[trim badge]

I do

[hazy knot]

alr, give me a link code

[trim badge]

7531 8642

Want yours back?

[hazy knot]

sure

[trim badge]

Thank you so much

[hazy knot]

np

[hazy knot]

rank c >:)

[finite totem]

do infinite za royale get harder or am I stuck with low levels?

[desert current]

I think they cap around 60-70 range

[hazy knot]

Waiter, more fire types please!

[noble ice]

Mega Pokémon that I think that could’ve been a little bit better part 4.

[warm knot]

So true jeffy

[noble ice]

I wanna know what was going through game freaks head when they were making this mega

[plush shadow]

thats way too funny

[warm knot]

"eh good enough, ship it"

Same with the rest of the game

[noble ice]

Mega Scrafty

[hazy knot]

okay that one i definitely agree with

bottom three designs for me

[noble ice]

So, he wears a white hood and he’s super affective to dark types

[noble ice]

Sounds kind of racist

[hazy knot]

Mayhaps..

[warm knot]

Most of the new megas are bad

[noble ice]

It looks like he would work with the that one detective Pikachu, who put a bunch of brown Pokémon in jail and killed a Pauline whooper who was just playing ball with himself.
(can I get a thumbs up to those who know what I’m referencing)

[hazy knot]

nice opinion. im too busy sweeping to agree

[noble ice]

spoilers to anyone who hasn’t seen the shiny

||I mean, hey at least the shiny makes it less racist. Oh wait they made him purple because, OHHHH NOOO. Nope still racist.||

[autumn shore]

||making him purple is racist what do you mean?||

[hazy knot]

rank A!

[noble ice]

||well you know that racial prediction that they do sometimes in grown-up TV shows (like South Park or Family Guy) saying that all Black people like grape Kool-Aid or the color purple.||

[tranquil nexus]

Folks are hoodies racist

[wispy kernel]

have you considered that the color purple just goes hard though

[tranquil nexus]

Those of us who love purple are ride-or-die. Meanwhile people who could care less: “purple is racist”

[hazy knot]

True..

[summer flare]

what the actual fuck are you on about

i dont actually care but consider this your wake up call to touch grass

anyways

im gonna vom bc

is it in any way possible to get on the rooftops indicated by the red thing without roto glide/jump

i heard a shiny sound and based on the cries it's probably budew

[wispy kernel]

unless theres a holovator or a ladder likely not

[summer flare]

FUCK

[wispy kernel]

just save the game

it’ll stay there until you get it

[hazy knot]

it should be fine as long as 10 other shinies don’t spawn

[summer flare]

i know but damn

i just want him for my poison run

every time i pass by it'll taunt me

[wispy kernel]

all of wild zone 8 about to be shiny all at once:

[summer flare]

literally

[hazy knot]

True..

[summer flare]

i genuinely have not encountered any shinies after my weedle, and if i ignore the mareep mission i should save a slot

[wispy kernel]

I’m shiny hunting rn and I’ve gotten 5 shinies before the one I want

[summer flare]

i shpuld speedrun but i dont wanna

the moment i realized my blood ran so cold dude

literally worst shiny luck

i thought it was patrat but this is somehow worse

oh my god i fucking see it too

PLEASE come to the esge bro

[hazy knot]

i only had 1 shiny before getting the shiny charm (over 60 hours btw) but luckily i have a lot more now

[summer flare]

weedle wasnt luck it was a fucking omen

[desert current]

Honestly yeah... Ground is BUSTED. Fire types, Steel types, Electric types, even the rare Rock type... It kills everything, and the only things that resist it are the two worst types in the game (Grass and Bug) and since Skarmory exists even the flying types aren't safe because everyone is bringing Electric to counter it.

A world without Levitate is a scary place.

Earthquake alone just slaughters everything.

Bring your largest alpha, and chances are you're going to hit three people at once with a single Earthquake (and despite its power it somehow has a faster startup then most special attacking moves).

You have no idea how many times I've tried to flamethrower someone with Delphox only for them to OHKO me with Earthquake.

[hazy knot]

by the way, what is a good counter for skarmory?

i guess fire right?

electric too apparently. but it can learn drill run to deal with those weaknesses

i should probably use one, i love skarmory

[noble ice]

Yeah, I’ll give you that

The Shiny is pretty cool

[desert current]

I genuinely have no clue... Its hard to counter anything when its only weakness is covered by ground (which is already the best offensive type in the game).

Metagross is usually bulky enough to take a hit from Drill Run, and its resistant to Steel and Flying. It can also learn Thunder Punch, so its pretty decent at handling Skarmory I think.

I guess Charizard technically can counter Skarmory, because it has that ground immunity... But there's also a lot of electric coverage going around, being a Flying type is rough.

And even if you mega evolve into X, you're suddenly weak to ground now, and you no longer resist fairy

Its honestly kinda hard to find decent mons that aren't just Xerneas, Metagross, Excadrill, and Skarmory.

[wispy kernel]

I kill it via heat wave Yveltal

I have gotten 1 shiny eevee 3 shiny furfrou 3 shiny audino and no shiny clefairy. this game sucks

I get lucky in the worst ways possible

[tranquil nexus]

I haven’t gotten any shiny furfrou 😢

[wispy kernel]

I FINALLY FOUND A SHINY CLEFFA

IM FREE

[turbid geyser]

im trying to get shiny skarmory and its pain

[wispy kernel]

my advice is to give up

[turbid geyser]

ive gotten 9 shiny pyroars

and no skarmory

one of them also was an alpha

[wispy kernel]

I was considering shiny hunting lampent there but I don’t hate myself enough for that

[turbid geyser]

just shiyn hunt a litwick if anything

idk what im gonna do if ig et a 10th one

i might just give em away tbh

nvm i alreayd ahve 10

finally got it

[noble ice]

Where would you guys put your mega stone if you were able to put it anywhere on your character?

[wispy kernel]

headphones

[fast cypress]

tried making a shiny for mega chimecho. What do you guys think?

[summer flare]

oh i JUST realized that the ||metal looks like chingling||

thats so cute omfg

i love how gamefreak kinda said "you've all sorta fundamentally misunderstood megas" and gave us a nice scale of goofy/cute/cool

bc 90% of fan megas were all like uber cool dangerous looking things, and then they gave us ms maam with tummy trouble victreebel

like literally nobody said they were required to look super cool or really dangerous, most of what we had just kinda fit that

are there ones they could have designed slightly better? oh for sure

but starmie is literally perfect and i get palpitations when he runs at me at mach 5

[warm knot]

I like it

[warm knot]

Probably the first time making a mega look like a pre evolution has ended up looking good

[summer flare]

literally glares at mega "raichu"

it just works with the theme!! wind chimes are so varied so it works

[desert current]

Slowbro showed us the way 10 years ago, but nobody listened... 😔

[summer flare]

EXACTLY 👏

[desert current]

Bruh, Eelektross looks good

[warm knot]

Eelektross is kind of lame

It's one of the more interesting ZA megas but I don't like it that much

[desert current]

I mean what did you expect them to do instead? :/

[summer flare]

eelektross barely looks like it incorporates its prevos specifically

or well

do they say the mucus is elektrik(?)

[warm knot]

Idk like bigger cooler eel

I don't like "mega evolution looks like pre evo" gimmick

It's uninteresting

[desert current]

its dex literally says "false Eelekrik" though, and it has the coloration of Tynamo too

[summer flare]

ah

[warm knot]

And Game Freak show they lost the sauce they once had

[summer flare]

ok gpaw

[desert current]

More uninteresting then "the same thing but spikier or bigger" like most Megas???

[summer flare]

edgy/spiky fan megas go brrrrrrrr

imo it only really works for garchomp

sucks that his stats are so. weird

[desert current]

idk man, when Megas first came out people made the same exact complaints they make now. You really can't please anyone.

[summer flare]

tru

[warm knot]

Looking like a pre evolution doesn't make sense when megas are supposed to be a temporary extra evolution

I'll take a thousand mega beedrills before I take a single mega dragonite

[desert current]

It makes perfect sense to me, its channeling every aspect of a Pokemon's identity... Including its past.

[summer flare]

mega dragonite isn't even an offender of this

[desert current]

Its got Dragonair's pearl and wings

[summer flare]

like it lost old elements for literally no reason, so it makes sense to get them

dragonite should have kept them to begin with

[warm knot]

I guess you're onto something, they just don't do it in an interesting way

[summer flare]

to you, maybe

[warm knot]

I don't know why I'm even bothering with this I'm in the ZA channel obviously I'm gonna find people who like ZA

[summer flare]

i personally hate mega lucario but nintendo seems to like it

literally?

why r u here then

[warm knot]

I wanted to discuss the new megas and stuff

[summer flare]

oh fair

[warm knot]

I thought people would have more opinions

[desert current]

Chimecho did it interesting, Feraligatr would have been interesting if only they kept the hood down, I don't get the hate for Eelektross still.

[warm knot]

Don't even get me started on feraligatr

But whatever I'm going now

[summer flare]

diva cup my beloved

sorry you wanted to hate on them, i like whimsy

[desert current]

No offense, not to be rude but... Uhh, we do have opinions they just don't happen to line up with yours? 😅

[summer flare]

emboar makes sense and i'm sure people like it but as a day 1 tepig "meh"-er i really dont like him

[warm knot]

This is true

But I was hoping for more varied opinions

[desert current]

I just think a lot of the designs are overhated y'know?

[warm knot]

I'm kind of disappointed that I only seem to find people that defend everything gf does

[summer flare]

thats a stretch

[desert current]

to be fair, there is only like three people having this conversation lol

[summer flare]

don't even get me fucking started

[warm knot]

Maybe you're right and I am overreacting, but I really do not like some of the new stuff

[summer flare]

you asked about megas

not "everything gamefreak does"

i can't be falling for bad ragebait, it's bad for my blood pressure

[desert current]

to be completely transparent... there are megas I don't like (like Feraligatr) I just think the hate goes to far.

Feraligatr was so close to being good man 😔

[summer flare]

it's a cute idea! he needs better execution, i agree

[warm knot]

I'm afraid it's not ragebait, I just have bad tastes

[desert current]

Not a huge fan of Mega Skarmory, I think the shade of yellow they chose is kinda ugly, and the toes are overkill lol

Mega Skarmory fr

[summer flare]

i was similar, tho i dislike the color bc the molten/overheated metal is kinda odd

but the nails are hilarious and i love a pedicure girlie

absolutely sickening 💅

[desert current]

a lot of people seem to like Mega Falinks but personally not a huge fan of that one either. Its a fun concept (and I like the little guy in the middle struggling so hard to hold them all up), but it feels too top heavy, and the head being so big makes me think of Pac-Man.

He do be having dat whimsy tho

[summer flare]

i only like him for the whimsy

he fits ivor so well

it kinda felt like it was made for him specifically, or the other way around

[desert current]

ye

[summer flare]

i feel similarly about chandelure. i know there's not a lot you can do, but it looks good next to gwynn and unfortunately that's as much as i give it

but scolipede

ohhhhh scolipede

❤️

[desert current]

I really like Chandelure... The only part I'm iffy about is one time someone pointed out that it turns a light brown on the edges, and now I can't unsee it.

[summer flare]

i know people like chan i just wish i could

[woeful carbon]

I’m ngl im gonna tweak out if i have to do another 3 rogue mega evolution battles

[desert current]

Scolipede is cool, but I feel like it could have benefitted from a little bit of armor on its back. The color balance is off because the gray is only on the front (though I think its meant to resemble a knight riding a horse or something).

[summer flare]

ye, i think! on the knight thing

[desert current]

(wait... looking at it now, I just realized Mega Scolipede does have a lil bit of gray on its butt... Its not quite as bad as I thought)

[summer flare]

i think the shiny executes the colors much better

the contrast helps it a lot

the teal as the main secondary??? UGH 😩

[desert current]

peak shiny

[summer flare]

the regular has too light of a gray tbh

this thing screams poison dart frog. you touch this thing and die of giga poison

[desert current]

true

[woeful carbon]

I’m not gonna lie i don’t fw mega scolipede all that much i feel like it could’ve been better

[summer flare]

opinions are opinions and as a day 1 gen 5 scolipede lover you're wrong

she is beauty she is grace she is a horse and i love her

[woeful carbon]

As a day 1 gen 5 scolipede fan i accept your opinion but i disagree

[summer flare]

😔

a tragic day for the bug kid community

[trim badge]

Would anyone be able to help me evolve a spritzee and a shiny swirlix?

They are the last trade evos I need

[desert current]

sure

[trim badge]

Thank you

[woeful carbon]

It looks much better from the front than the side imo

[summer flare]

evil and intimidating honse ❤️

idk the shiny really fixes any issue i have with her

[desert current]

link code: 3789 1049

[summer flare]

it's just the lack of good contrast in the regular

[desert current]

is Xena you?

[trim badge]

Yes

[desert current]

okay good

[woeful carbon]

I’m honestly worried for some of my favorites that are leaked to get megas

[summer flare]

go in with no expectations, it's healthier that way

[woeful carbon]

Like look at what they did to pyroar

[trim badge]

The flame Kanji looks cool for him imo

[summer flare]

pyroar had nothing and still has nothing

[desert current]

the stats are the most unfortunate part

[summer flare]

except like. coverage

[jade ocean]

And yet it's still somehow miraculously more fortunate than Malamar in that regard

[summer flare]

all malamar has is lore ability 😔

died in 1 hit to x-scissor

[desert current]

Yeah... it reaks of "we overcorrected for contrary" stats

[trim badge]

Thank you so much for the trades

[desert current]

no prob 👍

[summer flare]

contrary works bc malamar is already dogwater

[jade ocean]

How good a design is is for the most part subjective, so I tend to avoid talking about that too often, which is why Mega Malamar is probably my most slandered Z-A Mega

[summer flare]

oh not design

the stats

[woeful carbon]

I’m ngl ||zeraora|| mega could potentially be fucked it’s already by far one of the fastest Pokemon games with good offenses

[summer flare]

[desert current]

He looks like a supervillain M logo so I like him

[jade ocean]

Exactly what I'm always slandering Mega Malamar for

Like do you know how hard it is to get worse stat improvements than 20 across the board?

[summer flare]

pyroar basically evolved

[jade ocean]

But here we are and Malamar has done it

[desert current]

It was calculated I tell ya

[woeful carbon]

These are what outspeed it

[summer flare]

the SPEED 😭

[desert current]

GameFreak would give it Psycho Boost if they weren't COWARDS

[jade ocean]

Oh right we got stat leaks for it already I forgot

[woeful carbon]

No these are what outspeed base form

[jade ocean]

Oh

Well we do have stat leaks for it

So uhh

Also, looking at stats, the Pokemon with the most comparable stats to Mega Malamar is (drumroll please)

Fezandipiti

[desert current]

oof

[jade ocean]

The biggest difference is Fezandipiti's Speed being a lot higher and Mega Malamar's SpA being a lot higher

[woeful carbon]

Only 3 pokemon outspeed mega zeraora and they’re all pokemon who’ve dumped most of their bst into their speed

[jade ocean]

Fezandipiti has a better movepool and type btw

And a free item slot

[woeful carbon]

Also THEY FUCKING MEGA GARCHOMPED THEM

[jade ocean]

No?

Its speed stat literally increased idk what you're talking about

[woeful carbon]

No being mega garchomped is dumping a significant portion of your mega points into a stat you don’t use

(Special attack)

[jade ocean]

||Zeraora was always a mostly mixed attacker||

||Just that it usually went Physical due to better physical movepool||

||This carrying over to the Mega does not surprise me||

||And it probably shouldn't surprise you either||

[woeful carbon]

Fair but it’s still a significant portion of your base stats wasted

[jade ocean]

Hey, it still got a substantial Attack increase

||This Speed ties Base 135 +Speed nature while using Adamant||

||Which is pretty interesting||

[summer flare]

YOU CAN GET DIANCIE POSTGAME WITHOUT DLC PURCHASE

!!!!!!!

I WAS NOT AWARE I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT

[autumn shore]

How many returning Pokemon are coming to Mega Dimension?
I do believe online sources say 130+ but I could be wrong.

And also WHY LEVEL 150???
Do we break the level cap and is this permanent?

[woeful carbon]

Leaks ||mega absol 2 better be fairy dark they need to write the wrongs of the first attempt||

[woeful carbon]

Temporary level cap break that can reach up to 164 from trailers

[jade ocean]

||I mean Mega Absol's a very solid Mega all things considered||

[summer flare]

oh yeah based on the trailer it is technically a map the size of lumiose, just yknow

why the fuck did i click that leak

please mention it's a leak omfg

[lime void]

The event only started a couple of days ago. You should still be able to get it

[jade ocean]

||What they do need to right the wrongs of is Garchomp||

[summer flare]

fair warning that's every pokemon getting a mega

i'm so pissed i wanted to learn IN-GAME i was able to get ||golisopod||

i hope i forget

[lime void]

Friendly reminder that the vast majority of leaks are fake, and you should always take them with a grain of salt

[summer flare]

i hope so

[jade ocean]

In my defence I didn't post that one

[woeful carbon]

Yeah also if they are real they’re always subject to change as they are not the final product

[summer flare]

but please mention outside of the spoiler tag what kind of spoiler it is

[woeful carbon]

Yeah i forgot to do that sorry

[summer flare]

well, if nothing else i hope that particular pokemon is in the game

[jade ocean]

(Trailer spoilers) ||Well, Golisopod was in the trailer||

||Unless I'm hallucinating||

[summer flare]

ohhh im watching it rn

[woeful carbon]

LEAKS SPOILER WARNING ||also insane how the green red mega stone in the trailer was not mega flygon but mega scovillain|| LEAKS SPOILER WARNING

[woeful carbon]

Yeah ||it’s literally in the party roster of the player in the trailer||

[summer flare]

HE WAS IN THE TRAILER MY SOOOOOOOOON MY SON IS BACK I LOVE MY SON MY SON

[jade ocean]

(Leak spoilers) ||Sun teams about to get their own Mega Swampert maybe?||

||Now all we need are Megas with Slush and Sand Rush||

[jade ocean]

||... Assuming it gets Chlorophyll, at least||

[lime void]

Still no sign of the best Pokémon unfortunately

[woeful carbon]

||wait nvm it as an enemy||

[jade ocean]

252 Atk Adaptability Beedrill-Mega Poison Jab vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Zeraora: 248-292 (78.2 - 92.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Zeraora Plasma Fists vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Beedrill-Mega: 330-388 (121.7 - 143.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
I'm afraid he's a fraud

[summer flare]

||golisopod|| is shown. hope that helps 👍

MEGA DRILL STONKS

[jade ocean]

I was genuinely expecting Mega Bee to OHKO Zeraora, actually...

I'm surprised it doesn't

[summer flare]

WE EXPECT NOTHING FROM OUR GOAT 🔥 🔥

AND HE STILL DISAPPOINTS ‼️

https://tenor.com/o8Q9IeaBdfY.gif

[woeful carbon]

Fell stinger and he kos

[jade ocean]

Zeraora uses Agility and it outspeeds

Let's lay some Webs down on Beedrill's side while we're at it

Yeah no that's a kinda very flawed argument

Now to be fair to Mega Bee, it is punching above its pay grade

I mean, Zeraora's a frightening B- ranked Pokemon

So terrifying

[woeful carbon]

I do not setup
I do not stall
I sweep and if I don’t sweep well then I don’t win

[jade ocean]

Well, for mr Mega Bee at least

Or mrs idk

[summer flare]

THATS WHY HE'S THE GOAT ‼️

[jade ocean]

Is there like a gender neutral mr/mrs

[summer flare]

mx

[jade ocean]

thanks

[woeful carbon]

Leaks for the dlc ||dark void is still best used by smeargle somehow||

[jade ocean]

Except it literally can't but ok

Bro they need to (leaks spoiler) ||give Mega Darkrai No Guard it'd be so funny||

[woeful carbon]

It used to

||It was so broken they removed it from smeargle||

[jade ocean]

||Tbh in Singles, Darkrai was better||

[jade ocean]

Also spoiler this pls

This is a major spoiler

||Because it is extremely easy to deduce what it is based off of that if you have any comp knowledge||

Even gonna spoiler that to be 100% safe

Anyways, ||does make me wonder what Pre Dark Void Nerf Darkrai would've done to VGC||

Probably would've ||gotten it nerfed anyways||

[woeful carbon]

||it was a restricted pokemon so not much tbh smeargle was so dominant because it was a free pick + got every other move in the game||

[jade ocean]

||Consider the following: It's a Smeargle||

||Look at its stats||

||Ig it being a restricted does stink actually||

||One question though: Why are all Mythicals restricted?||

||A vast majority are on par with minor legendaries in stats, which aren't restricted||

||Stuff like Poopa Unwiped and Arceus yeah that makes sense, but stuff like Celebi?||

[woeful carbon]

||because for the longest time mythicals were exclusive in person events it was done for fairness||

[jade ocean]

||I feel like the simple solution is to make the distribution not hot garbage||

||Man why do we still have event only Pokemon that's so garbage||

[woeful carbon]

This is The Pokemon Company we’re talking about

[jade ocean]

||Like I do not understand the continued existence of event Pokemon like they don't even gain any fucking money off these events like they do other stupid shit like trade evos and version exclusives||

||There's like 0 reason for this to exist||

||Nobody is gaining anything off the distribution method being like this||

[desert current]

jokes aside... yeah I have no clue why they do what they do...

Must be ✨ marketing✨ or something dumb like that

[woeful flume]

please game gimme shiny chespin

ive been at this for a whole week

10 shiny diggersby and 1 shiny gastly (idek) and 3 failed shiny fletchlings

[hazy knot]

sad

[desert current]

I just don't understand what I'm doing wrong... Every time I try ranked battles my Pokemon constantly get one-shot, while my opponents seem to be able to tank and survive all of my attacks. I literally had reflect and light screen up, with max HP investment on all my mons, yet none of my Pokemon can take a hit. The pokemon I'm using (Mega Charizard X and Yveltal) aren't even bad mons, so why do they do so little damage?

It seriously feels like there's no point in ever using anything except the small handful of meta Pokemon

[woeful flume]

max hp isnt really helpful at all its better to focus on defenses after their attack is good

[turbid geyser]

try getting some defense buff items

[woeful flume]

also those 2 have a lot of things strong against them

[desert current]

Did they change how stats are calculated??? That's literally the opposite of how it works in other games. HP is usually the most important stat for bulky mons...

[woeful flume]

no hp was never the most important

if you ever take a look at smogon a lot of mons focus is defense and sp defense after there main stats are good

cause now that charizard and yveltal are getting hit with moves dealing a whole lot with no defense to help them while its hp is high it doesnt matter if they deal more hp than they have

its counter productive going hp on most mons

[desert current]

not enough people are talking about how TERRIBLE the design is for berry shops

why the heck do I have to buy them one at a time?

[jade ocean]

Tbf those are like

4 points

It doesn't matter where you spend them at all

[desert current]

WHEN THE GAME LITERALLY HAS A SHOP MECHANIC THEY COULD USE?

[jade ocean]

It somehow seems literally intentionally awful

Because an NPC directly calls this shit out

[desert current]

They also boot you out of the menu when buying canari plushies, for seemingly no reason

Like why why why would they do that?

[hazy knot]

yeah, defenses are more important than hp. for my clauncher, i have a few evs in hp i think, but i put most of them into spatk, def, and spdef

though i would suggest going for one type of defense

[jade ocean]

The issue is that as soon as you go into one type of defence the only Pokemon you will see will target the other defence because that is law

[summer flare]

true

[hazy knot]

the solution to that is having a well-rounded team that has other members you can switch into to handle those mons