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storm bone
daring finch
yes please
jade ocean
||Mega Baxcalibur getting Mega Back Problems unironically makes me like it a lot more||
||Idk I don't like how upright Baxcalibur stands it feels so weird||
lament glen
the xenobladification of pokemon is continuing
plain valley
It's so good, I bet it'll have some Wind Power/Rider -like as an ability in main series.
jade ocean
||Chimecho I really would've preferred to get a normal evolution but at least it looks cool as fuck||
||It also got BOOMBURST||
lament glen
Definetly the best new mega so far
daring finch
out of ZA or just the dlc?
jade ocean
||Please let Chimecho keep Boomburst it'd be so fucking funny||
daring finch
It cant really beat mega drampa for me
plain valley
Am kinda mixed on ||Bax||
jade ocean
||Tbh I think this is a straight improvement over base Bax but that's more so because Base Bax has so many issues||
plain valley
||Turning the whole glaive into a sword going all the way through is cool, but they don't really do enough with the design||
jade ocean
||The sword is cool, the Mega Back Problems are cool||
||But those are really the only 2 changes||
daring finch
Tbh I dont like both
plain valley
||Although. Truth be told, base Bax is kinda boring so it's like... Maybe I just don't like Bax||
lament glen
The biggest upgrade mega ||braxcalibor|| can possibly get is an official artwork that isnt a trace of the 3d model
daring finch
How can you not like the ||Chimecho||
||"We should make mega klefki" "Nah we have mega klefki at home"||
plain valley
Like mega ||Bax|| is on the same level as like.... Mega Pinsir for me
daring finch
Also not a fan of the pokemon in general
lament glen
mega pinsir is one of the better ones imo
plain valley
Cool idea with not enough follow-through
lament glen
a bit overdesigned tho
storm bone
Apparently it’s|| psychic /steel|| now
lament glen
sure
daring finch
Not beating klefki aligations
plain valley
It do kinda look like a Klefki fusion 
lament glen
I wish we get a mega comfey
plain valley
How long do you think until someone does it? 
lament glen
love that guy
daring finch
If I could decide one mega of any pokemon I would probably go buzzwole or pangoro
lament glen
I think I would pick Lumineon
its design really lends itself to getting a mega I feel like
fickle birch
||Although. Truth be told, base Bax is kinda boring so it's like... Maybe I just...
I certainly don't like the original, it feels unfinished. At least this design feels complete. 🙂
fickle birch
The biggest upgrade mega ||braxcalibor|| can possibly get is an official artwork...
100% this. Its art could have been so cool, but they took the lazy route and made what was meant to be one of the Generation's most cool Pokémon a lame duck. 😢
daring finch
its design really lends itself to getting a mega I feel like
fair enough, my thought was, I like these and pangoro is cool
fickle birch
Wait, are we getting ||Mega Pangoro||? 😮
daring finch
No, I wish we were
plain valley
Oh I thought we were just talking about stuff we wished we got megas
I have no clue about the leaks
daring finch
Like just look at him, you can do so much with it
plucky escarp
Like just look at him, you can do so much with it
what he actually gets: a bigger bamboo chute and nothing else
fickle birch
I have no clue about the leaks <:trolley:690075871322964017>
None of the new stuff is leaks. 🙂
They were revealed in a trailer today. 😄
daring finch
what he actually gets: a bigger bamboo chute and nothing else
Nah he becomes the dragon warrior
fickle birch
Like just look at him, you can do so much with it
And yet the right answer is BanchoLeomon 2. 🙂
daring finch
That looks like a jjba stand
plain valley
Yeah Ik that, I've seen the trailer
If I had to pick one... I'd say..... Maractus
Good design overall with some stuff that can def be exaggerated to make a stellar mega
fickle birch
Maractus is a prime candidate for either a Mega or Evolution. 🙂
plain valley
I'd totally see it getting a Stone evo
robust wren
||I don't dislike Mega Bax's design, but I DO despise Gamefreak doubling down on locking Mega Stones behind Online. Let us use the new things, damnit.||
lament glen
Maractus is a prime candidate for either a Mega or Evolution. 🙂
hell yeah
amber monolith
mega dimension spoiler, but dbz: ||IT'S OVER LEVEL 100||
harsh oasis
XD
robust wren
Crazy how the thumbnail for the latest DLC Trailer put all 3 of the ZA Starter Megas in, but still had the audacity to keep Mega Feraligatr's fake head in the upright position. It will never beat the toilet seat allegations like that lol
amber monolith
the trailer didn't even show the new megas
maybe like two of them
||Unless Chimecho and Baxcalibur are the only new ones aside from Raichu?||
robust wren
They only showed like 7 of the base game Megas before release, they're definitely not showing too many more before the DLC drops
amber monolith
then again, if PLA was the last pokemon game i played
do i even care about pokemon at this point?
ironically i gave up before the region that introduced lokix
lament glen
scarlet and violet are actually just slop, so you didnt miss out
harsh oasis
If you didn't care you probably wouldn't be here so
lament glen
But it gave us the epic olive guy and Glimmora, so thats cool
harsh oasis
scarlet and violet are actually just slop, so you didnt miss out
Slop isn't even close but keep thinking that if you like
Sure
SV is pretty bad
But Slop is a whole different category
charred sage
yea it's a firm 6-7/10, competent but intentionally holding itself back, while slop doesn't deserve a rating to begin with lol
but yea I know a lot of people dropped after Swish outside of the two legends games since the switch era is very much not liked (at least by the west)
plucky escarp
i liked the open world idea, but it had a lot of issues, design and performance
lament glen
But Slop is a whole different category
I mean sure, not gonna argue about semantics
But if I think back to gen 9, the only things I remember are
-A terrible terrible overworld, both in design and looks
-Repetitive gameplay of only batteling trainers with 1 mon each
-Repetitive story of 3 different missions that all just repeat the same cutscene a few times
-Those clunky raids on the evil team whose name I forgot
-3 fps cutscenes
-Ed sheran in the credits for some reason
robust wren
There's a lot to like about Scarlet and Violet, and just as much to dislike too
lament glen
but yea I know a lot of people dropped after Swish outside of the two legends ga...
gen 9 is still the 2nd best selling pokemon game of all time tho somehow
odd wind
Anybody here happen to have a shiny male litleo?
harsh oasis
I mean sure, not gonna argue about semantics
But if I think back to gen 9, the ...
That's fair, sucks you had such a bad experience. When I look back on SV I mostly just think about the good stuff. The great characters, how much fun it was for me to just romp around, talking about it with other people on release and the days after, shiny hunting, the dlc.
opaque osprey
||Ahh yes, was wondering why Ansha looks familiar||
harsh oasis
Damn...
harsh oasis
That's definitely right
odd wind
Definitely looks like a child of Diantha
harsh oasis
Possibly alternate universe? Or maybe 5 years is just long enough
unborn elm
She does look 5
I mean
The lil girl in gen 9 from the elite 4 was like 9 years old but looked like she was 3
harsh oasis
She looks ambiguously childlike to me lol, less than 10 or 11, more than 3 or 4
Dunno if that's the artstyle or if I'm bad at guessing ages
lament glen
That's fair, sucks you had such a bad experience. When I look back on SV I mostl...
fair, I never buy dlc unless its monolith soft
unborn elm
It hurts my soul in this game to run across the map because I wanna go get a pokecenter I haven’t gotten yet
robust wren
Dunno if that's the artstyle or if I'm bad at guessing ages
Animeesque art styles can make ages hard to recognize immediately. See: Jotaro Kujo looking the same as a high schooler and fully grown man
unborn elm
All that miradon riding made running feel like I’m crawling
harsh oasis
True
I loved running around the city for like the first 40 hours
Then it just became tedious with how much bouncing back and forth they want you to do
So I caved and started fast travelling
They should've added roller skates 
lament glen
the best games make you not want to fast travel, but za is definetly not one of those. running around normally is really tedius after a while, especially since there is 0 variation
unborn elm
Dude my dad has double my playtime yet I’m rank C and he’s still on D
harsh oasis
Lol
unborn elm
Yall wanna know why
Dratini
This man has been shiny hunting dratini for so long
And has yet to get it
robust wren
Can I just say that Korrina's redesign might just be one of the single most ridiculous character designs I've ever seen?
opal gull
smh even more pvp locked megas
robust wren
smh even more pvp locked megas
"you WILL pay for Online if you want the full experience." -Nintendo, definitely
opal gull
ntm you WILL wait past launch and get spoiled if you want it in your playthrough
robust wren
PVP will probably be even more insufferable too, if the broken level cap transfers over to it
jade ocean
I doubt it since PVP isn't at level cap
It's at Level 50
Also the levels being yellow makes me think it'll only exist in hyperspace
lament glen
"you WILL pay for Online if you want the full experience." -Nintendo, definitely
honestly having dlc is more annoying than making stuff locked behind online imo
fickle birch
Can I just say that Korrina's redesign might just be one of the single most ridi...
I think it looks fun! Is it our Korrina, or the alternate dimension one? 😮
robust wren
honestly having dlc is more annoying than making stuff locked behind online imo
||Mega Bax|| is both though. that's the big issue here.
fickle birch
Yeah, it's paying for the Online and the DLC which is a nightmare. That's basically the price of another (and likely, better) game. 😢
lament glen
If you can't affort NSO, you probably shouldn't buy pokemon dlc 
but no I agree of course
robust wren
Nintendo is absolutely not doing a great job convincing me to get a Switch 2 with all the other things they expect people to buy in addition to it
Literally the only thing to care about on it is Bananza, and as cool as it looks I refuse to buy a console for one game
lament glen
Nintendo is absolutely not doing a great job convincing me to get a Switch 2 wit...
Honestly its not that bad if you just stick to it. I only bought the Switch 2 and 0 accessories, since I still have my switch 1 pro controler
And games wise I only buy things that are not released as game key cards
And ZA is only 50 euros on amazon in germany, so that helps
storm fog
Ok so looking at the entire screen, it seems that the donuts allow you to temporarily boost past level 100 while in Hyperspace areas. This is why the wild Pokemon are well above level 100 (and you will likely too)
sturdy flower
there's a calories counter up top
lament glen
so its basically like mega levelution
sturdy flower
when the energy from the donuts runs out, they go back to normal
robust wren
I just realized that the DLC's idea of adding "new places to explore" is just Lumiose but everything is painted white
sturdy flower
i honestly expect them to make a donut that boosts shinies
storm fog
Mega Slenderman: Find my pages
sturdy flower
I just realized that the DLC's idea of adding "new places to explore" is just Lu...
dude it's still lumiose
what were you expecting
wait what's destroy floating pokeballs
robust wren
what were you expecting
Something like Kitakami or Isle of Armor in terms of new things to explore, AKA the base expectation set by DLC in the past?
storm fog
wait what's destroy floating pokeballs
I assume something regarding the Pokeball floating above the Failed Sneaking banner thing
harsh oasis
I'm glad it seems like the dlc is accessible to people who's pokemon are lv 100 now
wispy kernel
I’m trying to figure out every mega stone that ||Korrina|| has 
there’s a lot
edgy palm
We can see at least 16 so presumably all the ones in the DLC?
wispy kernel
nope
I’ve figured out most of them so far
theres just four visible ones that I havent figured out yet
robust wren
The one I'm absolutely confident in her having is one of the leaked ones
edgy palm
Lucario is a given
robust wren
To be specific in regards th that DLC Leak, ||Mega Lucario 2||
wispy kernel
actually 5
edgy palm
I meant her own Lucario o.O
edgy palm
It'd be funny if she actually battles with all of them
wispy kernel
So far I’ve found ||Meganiumite, Emboarite, Feraligite, Dragoniteite, Starminite, Heracronite, Froslassite, Dragalgite, Chandelurite, Victreebelite, Delphoxite, Mawilite, Falinksite, Eelektrossite, Drampanite, and the Pyroarite||
I think there might be a ||Greninjite|| in there too
edgy palm
It's actually kinda fitting that she's doing this. I've always liked her character. Glad to see she's returning.
storm bone
Glad you only need rank s for the delphoxite , I only needed 2 to battle to get there thanks to ranking first twice
tired crane
Lol ||Dragoniteite||
storm bone
it's actually ||dragoninite || in game I think
tired crane
That's a little less fun
jade ocean
As a reminder, the new Megas we can expect to see apart from the Raichus, ||Chimecho|| and ||Baxcalibur|| are ||Absol Z, Staraptor, Garchomp Z, Lucario Z, Golurk, Meowstic, Crabominable, Golisopod, Magearna, Scovillain, Glimmora and Tatsugiri||
storm bone
thanks to the dlc we now have 78 megas
robust wren
||The fact that the Flygon fans were getting all hyped up over the green Mega Stone with an orange-red stripe in it thinking that was their Mega Stone only for it to be Scovillain's is both hilarious and sad||
||Gamefreak really got Artists Block once on Mega Flygon then completely gave up on it||
edgy palm
It's not even that hard to make a design for either -.-
robust wren
||How much you wanna bet that Mega Scovillain will just get saddled with the Hoenn Special the same way it was in base form?||
desert current
Is anyone available right now to help me evolve my shiny Phantump? (and trade it back after?)
jade ocean
||How much you wanna bet that Mega Scovillain will just get saddled with the Hoe...
||Maybe it'll at least keep Chlorophyll and fill a role on Sun Teams that Mega Swampert does on Rain||
Omg Hoopa likes donuts because they're hoop-shaped
wide kraken
does any1 have an alpha skarm i can have
lament glen
||How much you wanna bet that Mega Scovillain will just get saddled with the Hoe...
||I'll be completely honest with you, the name Scovillain doesn't even ring a bell for me lol||
||Is it a gen 8 mom?||
jade ocean
||Is it a gen 8 mom?||
||Gen 9, the 2 headed pepper guy who kinda looks like it should evolve further, which tbh is what I'd have preferred they would've done but I'd say that for any Pokemon that isn't already at the end of a 3 stage line||
lament glen
ah that thing
desert current
Can someone help me evolve my shiny phantump?
storm fog
Apparently Stunfisk is getting use in Legends Z-A because its flat body allows it to not get hit by a lot of moves
jade ocean
GOATfisk?
storm fog
Yeah, i was like "Why are there so many pelple using Stunfisk?" And then later YouTube recommended me a video about how Stunfisk is "broken."
desert current
The question is, is normal stunfisk better or galarian stunfisk
worn cobalt
Maybe I should use stunfisk? 
storm fog
The question is, is normal stunfisk better or galarian stunfisk
Currently, Unovan, so that it can shoot down Skarmory.
desert current
Ah that makes sense
worn cobalt
I need to, what, get to rank S for delphoxite? How hard can that be?
storm fog
I personally have been running Tyranitar running Fire Punch because there's a lot of Gyarados around, and for reason, people bring out their Skarmory against my bulky Tyranitar, only to get hit by Fire Punch
storm fog
I need to, what, get to rank S for delphoxite? How hard can that be?
2 or 3 rounds if you're good
worn cobalt
Ah, you see, that's the neat thing, I'm not.
worn cobalt
Can someone help me evolve my shiny phantump?
If you still need this, give me a bit to see if I can get a Machop up to a Machoke, and then we can tradesies shinies back and forth.
tranquil nexus
It’s kinda wild how few dragons I’m seeing in ranked rn
desert current
If you still need this, give me a bit to see if I can get a Machop up to a Macho...
Yes please.
The three times I brought it up nobody acknowledged it lol
worn cobalt
Hey, gets me shiny mark gourgeist without needing to shiny hunt it.
robust wren
ah that thing
||the fact that you needed to be reminded on Scovillain's existence really sells my "funny but also sad" feelings on it getting that green Mega Stone and not Flygon lol||
worn cobalt
Yes please.
Okay, I'm ready. Code 12367890
desert current
TimeRift
worn cobalt
Cool. I'll look for that. Mine's Adam.
worn cobalt
No problem. You have any extra shinies you don't want? I've got like a whole box of them.
desert current
I have an extra Shiny Pinsir
(as you can probably guess I got them while hunting for the phantump lol)
desert current
Ohh I would love a shiny Falinks
worn cobalt
Thank you for the trade. 
storm fog
Ah, you see, that's the neat thing, I'm not. <:heehee:945800365457149992>
Get a Tyranitar with Fire Punch, Crunch, Earthquake, and Stone Edge.
Get Ampharos with Reflect, Light Screen, Discharge, and Dazzling Gleam
Get Slowbro with Calm Mind, Surf, Psychic, and Ice Beam
desert current
thanks you too :D
storm fog
Get a Tyranitar with Fire Punch, Crunch, Earthquake, and Stone Edge.
Get Ampharo...
This combo should cover a lot of bases
worn cobalt
Get a Tyranitar with Fire Punch, Crunch, Earthquake, and Stone Edge.
Get Ampharo...
But I was planning on using:
Shiny Greninja with Surf, Dark Pulse, Water Shuriken, and Ice Beam
Alpha Excadrill with Iron Head, Earthquake, Drill Run, and either Rock Slide or Swords Dance
And something else that could fit the roster.
Not that your team is a bad idea, but I'd have to raise three new pokemon to run them.
storm fog
I tried running Greninja and Excadrill this season. They don't do a whole lot since Xerneas is now allowed and people began using more bulky Pokemon.you need real wall breakers and walls of your own now.
harsh oasis
Knew it would happen but I always mourn when restricteds get allowed
Makes it less fun unless you really like building for comp, which I know people do
storm fog
Yeah, Xerneas is absolutely tearing the entire ranked battle apart.
I use one too, but mine is a physical attacker rather than the special set everyone else is going with.
That way I can use Horn Leech
sturdy flower
Ah, you see, that's the neat thing, I'm not. <:heehee:945800365457149992>
i fucking suck and it took me four or five rounds to get it
like, i got zero kills twice and still got it this quickly
storm fog
But yeah, Max Attack regular Metagross Iron Head doesn't even put a dent in Xerneas when it has stat boosts from Geomamcy. You pretty much HAVE to mega evolve to even 2 hit the thing.
People are running AGGRON of all Pokemon just because it's steel type
worn cobalt
I'mma see where I can get I guess.
desert current
How powerful would an XS Stunfisk be I wonder? 🤔
storm fog
People are running Xerneas, so Metagross became a main staple. And so then Garchomp became a main staple. And so then GLACEON began massive usage because other ice types are too frail.
storm fog
How powerful would an XS Stunfisk be I wonder? 🤔
It depends. The main thing is that it can hide in grass and can even just walk past a Gyarados Hydro Pump.
If you wanna use Stunfisk, run Charge, Earth Power, Thunderbolt, and Protect.
Stupid autocorrect
jade ocean
People are running Xerneas, so Metagross became a main staple. And so then Garch...
Tbf weren't those 3 already seeing big usage
jade ocean
But yeah, Max Attack regular Metagross Iron Head doesn't even put a dent in Xern...
Geomancy doesn't boost Defence btw
Unless ZA fucking buffed it
storm fog
Pokemon to watch out for due to major usage in Fanked are: Xerneas, Metagross, Garchomp, Glaceon, Aggron, Skarmory, Gardevoir, Camerupt, Sharpedo, and Gyarados
jade ocean
Which in that case it's JOEVER
storm fog
Geomancy doesn't boost Defence btw
I thought Geomany was an omnibuff
jade ocean
Geomancy is basically Quiver Dance but doubled
Double the stat boosts, and double the amount of turns to execute
jade ocean
Which in ZA translates to taking a long fucking time to execute
And it doesn't get a +2 in any stat
Because +2s don't exist
storm fog
Which in ZA translates to taking a long fucking time to execute
This is bypassed by using it as a plus move
jade ocean
It'd basically be the same as if Quiver Dance was in the game, albeit it'd last longer
Which is probably why I'm pretty sure QD isn't in the game
But I mean I haven't used Vivillon
So I wouldn't know
robust wren
If Xerneas is allowed to run around, that doesn't bode well for my Delphoxite attaining strategy of just ramming myself into fights until I get it
storm fog
Tbf weren't those 3 already seeing big usage
Somewhat. It wasn't as prevalent as it is now. In the previous season, the main Pokemon were Emboar, Feraligatr, Gardevoir, Starmie, Dragonite, Tyranitar, Metagross, and Gyarados
jade ocean
Nobody picked Meganium, it's Meganiover
storm fog
Towards the end of the season, people were also running Emolga for screens
storm fog
Nobody picked Meganium, it's Meganiover
Some did, just not as many
robust wren
Nobody picked Meganium, it's Meganiover
Meganium got Bulu'd, Fairy type without any good moves to go with it
jade ocean
Unironically though Meganium's stat increases seem to be the best of the 3 ZA starters
jade ocean
Meganium got Bulu'd, Fairy type without any good moves to go with it
It has Dgleam
Better than Bulu having uhh
Nature's Madness technically?
worn cobalt
I got delphoxite in two battles. We won!
desert current
Dazzling Gleam is a close range attack though, oddly enough... It sometimes misses when used by smaller mons like Dedenne
Its strange that Meganium didn't even get Draining Kiss
jade ocean
I mean given what Dgleam is I'm not too surprised it's a closer range move
But it is annoying that it is
jade ocean
Its strange that Meganium didn't even get Draining Kiss
Ye it's strange
storm fog
The issue with Meganium is the severe poison type weakness, steel weakness, fire weakness, flying weakness, etc
desert current
oof yeah... all very common types
robust wren
I'm really hoping I can ram a barely developed team into enough competitive newcomers to get a decent amount of pity points. All I want is to use Mega Delphox on a story playthrough, I shouldn't have to jump through hoops like this
jade ocean
Uhhh
Idk
Flying has like uhh
OK yeah idk the meta
I mean maybe people are using Mega Skarm or something idk
storm fog
Flying has like uhh
Air Slash is the most popular special move and Brave Bird is the most popular physical move
jade ocean
Air Slash is the most popular special move and Brave Bird is the most popular ph...
Wait fr?
storm fog
Yeah
jade ocean
Wait how tf is BRAVE BIRD the most popular physical move
storm fog
Hurricane takes too long to start up
storm fog
Wait how tf is BRAVE BIRD the most popular physical move
Because it has insane power
robust wren
Flying never had the best moves
jade ocean
Well, the only relevant physical bird
Specifically in ZA
That's like 1 fucking Pokemon
storm fog
Like the only physical bird is like Skarmory
Skarmory, Talonflame, Hawlucha, and Pidgeot learn it
jade ocean
Skarmory, Talonflame, Hawlucha, and Pidgeot learn it
How relevant are Talonflame, Hawlucha and Pidgeot in ZA, even
Also isn't Pidgeot a Special Attacker
I mean base is physical
But nobody's using base Pidgeot
storm fog
Talonflame saw some usage last season. Keep in mind that the speed stat isn't as important anymore, so just think of Talonflame as just having old Gale Wings.
jade ocean
I dont see how it could be the "most popular physical move" then
Unless you're specifically referring to Flying types
worn cobalt
I think they were.
jade ocean
Which in that case yeah no shit what are the other options, Fly, Bounce and Aerial Ace?
jade ocean
I think they were.
I was more so referring to like
What relevant Flying type Pokemon there were
Where I really could only think of like specifically Skarm
storm fog
Fly is learned by very few Pokemon and takes too long to execute
Bounce is learned by few Pokemon and takes too.long to execute
Aerial Ace also takes too.long to execute (for some reason)
jade ocean
Tbh the most crippling weakness of Grass/Fairy to me seems like Steel
Given how I've seen people talk about Meta, Skarm, Exca etc
And Steels are only gonna become more popular with Xerneas around
storm fog
Where I really could only think of like specifically Skarm
Skarmory is the main user of it, yeah. Staraptor will be as well when Mega Dimensions comes out
jade ocean
That brings me to the 2nd crippling weakness, being "Just fucking use Xerneas lmfao"
Mainly now that Xern is allowed
storm fog
And Steels are only gonna become more popular with Xerneas around
That's already the case actually
jade ocean
They're gonna go from popular to popular-er
I've also heard Dragons had decent usage but to me that sounds like more of a stat thing
Yknow given how many of the Pseudo Legendaries are Dragon types
jade ocean
I mean I heard people mainly talking about Garchomp and Dnite to my memory
storm fog
Garchomp is currently one of the top used, but only because it's also ground type.
jade ocean
I mean now that Xerneas is around no shit right
Xern probably just devalued every Dragon by a ton
Well apart from Garchomp murdering all the Steels that beat Xern
storm fog
I've seen people try to use Camerupt or Hippowdon just to avoid Xerneas, but Garchomp is actually better at survivability.
jade ocean
I've seen people try to use Camerupt or Hippowdon just to avoid Xerneas, but Gar...
Wouldn't Garchomp melt to a single Fairy move though?
I mean apart from that I don't doubt Garchomp has an easier time surviving
storm fog
Wouldn't Garchomp melt to a single Fairy move though?
Pretty sure people have been running specially defensive Garchomp
jade ocean
Pretty sure people have been running specially defensive Garchomp
No way that tanks a Geomancied up Moonblast though
Well maybe since Fairy Aura doesn't exist and it's only a +1...
Ngl Fairy Aura not existing sounds like a massive nerf to Xerneas
Since without it its offences are only very strong and not batshit insane
Same with Geomancy nerf
With that said
Fairy Type with a good setup move, great offences and great bulk is still broken lmao
robust wren
Aura Trio are all war criminals, no way around it
jade ocean
It's like removing As One from Calyrex Shadow and going "See it's balanced now!"
Ngl if the top 2 types are gonna be Steel and Fairy it sounds like Mega Exca would put it quite a lot of work
Well, if you ignore the fact that it is physical frail before Mega, and specially frail either ways
storm fog
No way that tanks a Geomancied up Moonblast though
Not if it has Assault Vest
If it has Assault Vest, it's a 2-3 HKO. That also explains why I haven't seen many mega Garchomp around
jade ocean
Not if it has Assault Vest
That's cooking actually ngl
storm fog
And that's if Xerneas is also holding a Fairy Feather
jade ocean
Let them cook
It'd be funny if someone rolled up with physical Xerneas and Play Roughed its shit though
storm fog
Even if Garchomp didn't have ANY EVs in Special Defense, it would still require 2-3 hits to knock out Garchomp
jade ocean
So what you're saying is run Max HP Max Attack AV Garchomp?
storm fog
Ok so Garchomp with 0 EVs, 0 IVs, neutral nature, only holding Assault Vest, Moon Blast would deal 60-70% HP unless it's a plus move
jade ocean
Sounds like Max HP, Max Attack AV Garchomp time then
storm fog
Sounds like Max HP, Max Attack AV Garchomp time then
3HKO if holding Assault Vest. 2HKO if not.
jade ocean
How much does Garchomp Iron Head/PJab do to Xern?
jade ocean
I think your Xerneas is Level 50 and your Garchomp's level 100 or something
Because that seems very wrong
Idk if ZA damage calculation works like the other games
But if it does, Xern Moonblast deals 64-76% to AV Max HP Garchomp
Assuming max SpA and 0 Geomancies
Meanwhile, Max Attack Garchomp does 45-54% to max HP Xern
So Chomp isn't helpless but it certainly isn't favoured to win
Would running Iron Tail be better for more damage? What's the CD difference between it and Iron Head?
(I'm using Adamant and Modest natures for these calcs btw)
storm fog
Yeah something weird happened with the calc. It's now saying Moon Blast is 2HKO with Assault Vest and SpDef + HP
jade ocean
252+ Atk Garchomp Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Xerneas: 106-126 (45.4 - 54%) -- 41.8% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Garchomp Iron Head (+) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Xerneas: 126-150 (54 - 64.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Garchomp Iron Tail vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Xerneas: 132-156 (56.6 - 66.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Garchomp Iron Tail (+) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Xerneas: 158-186 (67.8 - 79.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
These are the calcs I'm getting from the Showdown Calculator
Both mons are Level 50 btw
252+ SpA Xerneas Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Garchomp: 138-164 (64.1 - 76.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Xerneas Moonblast (+) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Garchomp: 168-198 (78.1 - 92%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Xerneas Moonblast for comparison
storm fog
That's what I've been using
jade ocean
252+ SpA Fairy Feather Xerneas Moonblast (+) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Garchomp: 200-236 (93 - 109.7%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
May want to spec into SpD to survive that idk
You probably still want pretty decent Attack investment though
storm fog
Ok something IS wrong with the calculator because I was checking Tyranitar, fully set it up, it said "3HKO," clicked Level 100 and then back to Level 50 and it changed to "Guaranteed 0HKO"
I went back to Garchomp and checked and it said 3HKO on a +Def nature, so I changed it to +SpDef and now it says Guaranteed 0HKO
jade ocean
Mega Excadrill cleanly OHKOs Max HP Mega Metagross with EQ and does so 80+% of the time using Iron Head vs Xern
That is a lot of damage
storm fog
Something is seriously fucked up with this calculator
jade ocean
It's also seriously favoured to survive Garchomp EQ if it doesn't Plus Move it
jade ocean
Something is seriously fucked up with this calculator
It isn't breaking for me
So idk what the heck is happening on your end
tranquil nexus
Are you accounting for the 70% damage thing?
jade ocean
Are you accounting for the 70% damage thing?
The what
storm fog
So idk what the heck is happening on your end
Maybe it can't handle Xerneas having +1 and using Moonblast on specially defensive Garchomp holding Assault Vest and just gave up
Because it's acting as if it's hitting a Garchomp with nothing on it
tranquil nexus
The what
Moves in ZA are only 70% (75%?) power in trainer battles
Data miners found where it was defined, apparently
storm fog
Moves in ZA are only 70% (75%?) power in trainer battles
Oh is that why everything is so tanky?
jade ocean
Still not breaking for me
jade ocean
Moves in ZA are only 70% (75%?) power in trainer battles
Also, good to know
In that case most of these calcs so far would only be 2HKOs
tranquil nexus
(Also in wild battles but it was a different line in the config and could have been different if they wanted)
Lemme see if I can find the video I saw yesterday that showed it
storm fog
My guess is that they didn't want people just having a powerful Pokemon and being able to just spawn camp people
robust wren
They really chose the least flattering path possible towards showing off Mega Feraligatr, huh
forest egret
I guess they don't wanna lie to you and just show you exactly what you'll be seeing for 99% of it's existence
tranquil nexus
(Also screens are a bit less effective, I guess)
forest egret
Awful fit but it makes me laugh
woeful carbon
Also in the dlc Pokemon can go past level 100 at least temporarily
harsh oasis
Yeah, seems like you use the donuts for that
woeful carbon
Yeah, seems like you use the donuts for that
so snorlax probably reaching level 300
woeful carbon
No
But it’d be funny if the final boss was just a fat snorlax who ate all the donuts
robust wren
I don't think she has enough design elements, they need to add more 
woeful carbon
Probably already posted but
woeful carbon
I don't think she has enough design elements, they need to add more <:Smirkball:...
She’s got like 20 mega stones wrapped around her
She does not need that many
woeful carbon
Probably already posted but
Also mega chimeco is psychic steel instead of pure psychic
kindred fiber
Started the game and i gotta say irs pretty good
unborn elm
Dude it makes me sad that even in the thumbnail for the trailer thing the toilet seat is flipped up not even down
daring finch
Also mega chimeco is psychic steel instead of pure psychic
Klefki at home
unborn elm
Poor Feraligatr man
harsh oasis
Also mega chimeco is psychic steel instead of pure psychic
Indeed, sucks it can't just always be taht type
unborn elm
robust wren
Probably already posted but
Mega Bax really should have taken more aft one of the later designs of Godzilla instead of this barely different iteration. The sword grip on the front is clever, but that's all I can give points for
sturdy flower
Did we see lvl200+
the max bonus is probably 100
unborn elm
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/947500542089891840/1433184023982772344/at...
WTF
harsh oasis
Yeah I figured
woeful carbon
What did they do to clemont
unborn elm
WHO GOT CLEMONT????
woeful carbon
Who got him
unborn elm
NAH WHO GOT HIM
robust wren
Who got him
Them
sturdy flower
they got him
daring finch
But as I hear it mega chimecho is just a worse mega metagross?
harsh oasis
Liked him too
woeful carbon
The Pokémon league got him because of his research into autonomous robotics
It’s a conspiracy
unborn elm
when me and Bonnie find who got him we pulling up with mega zygarde and vaporizing them to dust
woeful carbon
But as I hear it mega chimecho is just a worse mega metagross?
Who knows maybe it’ll have a broken signature ability
sturdy flower
i love mega zygarde
robust wren
But as I hear it mega chimecho is just a worse mega metagross?
It gets Boomburst apparently, so there's that. Also more of a special attacker, presumably
sturdy flower
it's so overkill
and the design itself is awesome
it shedding it's outer cells to turn them into a giant fucking cannon is so peak
unborn elm
Yes
woeful carbon
Also the new megas line up with the leaked new megas coming in the dlc
daring finch
Oh yeah the mega Z pokemon
unborn elm
https://tenor.com/view/freaky-freaky-smile-sukuna-sukuna-smile-freaky-sukuna-gif-4852549280133734300
woeful carbon
||mega darkrai with dark void 😨||
unborn elm
HELL YEA
daring finch
||Yay mega golurk!||
sturdy flower
and then they're showing even more later
unborn elm
Mega zeraora tho
sturdy flower
we're probably gonna see 6 of them, maybe 8
unborn elm
we're probably gonna see 6 of them, maybe 8
Phew
woeful carbon
||I am hyped for golisopod meowstics golurk zeraora absol darkrai and lucario||
daring finch
Maybe six or seven
unborn elm
sturdy flower
||darkrai|| better be the coolest shit ever
woeful carbon
https://tenor.com/view/sixseven-six-seven-six-seve-67-gif-14143337669032958349
Industry plant
sturdy flower
istg if they make it goofy
unborn elm
I’m gonna chuck 6 to 7 exploding gigaliths
woeful carbon
67 meme is an industry plant
unborn elm
At you
lament glen
Klefki at home
Klefki is just Comfey at home
daring finch
||darkrai|| better be the coolest shit ever
Tbh it having legs makes it less cool to me
sturdy flower
Klefki is just Comfey at home
comfey is my favorite steel type
sturdy flower
Tbh it having legs makes it less cool to me
who said it has legs
harsh oasis
It does yeah
sturdy flower
i mean even regular ||darkrai|| has them
woeful carbon
sturdy flower
but nothing says mega will have them permanently
woeful carbon
https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-movie-pokemon-the-rise-of-darkrai-darkrai-pokemon...
Yes we see the aura darkrai
sturdy flower
all we know is that it gains a huge eye
unborn elm
https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-movie-pokemon-the-rise-of-darkrai-darkrai-pokemon...
We see the fit
sturdy flower
evil eye
robust wren
||The funniest and saddest thing ever would be Gamefreak doing a trailer emphasizing the green Mega Stone with the red stripe all the Flygon fans were getting hopeful over, only to then show Scovillain getting it and Mega Evolving.||
woeful carbon
all we know is that it gains a huge eye
Wait we know stuff about the mega?
sturdy flower
Wait we know stuff about the mega?
the pokedex descriptions yes
they don't really say much
heatran is very hot and zeraora is very electric
daring finch
It has legs bc fuck you NGS in particular
woeful carbon
||The funniest and saddest thing ever would be Gamefreak doing a trailer emphasi...
Didn’t one of gamefreaks designers say they try and avoid likeness to fan designs
sturdy flower
It has legs bc fuck you NGS in particular <:Quagless:1277334887178702959>
why'd you call me NGS
woeful carbon
Didn’t one of gamefreaks designers say they try and avoid likeness to fan design...
We probably made too many that it’s impossible to make an original one
daring finch
why'd you call me NGS
Its in the brackets
sturdy flower
Its in the brackets
that's the name of the team i co founded back when we added the first new mons to PIF
sturdy flower
it stands for Necrozma Golisopod Scolipede
daring finch
Ah
sturdy flower
daring finch
Its the whole team
sturdy flower
absolute peak
woeful carbon
No mega haxorus
It’s already a mega in my heart
sturdy flower
they better fix the shiny
sturdy flower
regular shiny bax is horrible
daring finch
I like the shiny
unborn elm
It’s already a mega in my heart
I was praying it would have gotten one
It’s such a cool pokemon
daring finch
It gets pink nails like a true queen
woeful carbon
unborn elm
And a good shiny
lament glen
bro can't even strike a pose
woeful carbon
https://tenor.com/view/haxorus-pok%C3%A9mon-haxorus-dragon-dragon-pulse-brrakkng...
Throwing hands with mega garchomp
unborn elm
IT SHOULDVE BEEN THE PSUEDO NOT BUMDREGION
jade ocean
But as I hear it mega chimecho is just a worse mega metagross?
Apart from type, they don't play the same
daring finch
Throwing hands with mega garchomp
lament glen
isnt mega garchomp just worse than garchomp?
unborn elm
jade ocean
For one, one is a fucking Pseudo Legendary
And another thing, they use different attacking stats
woeful carbon
https://tenor.com/view/gible-pokemon-anime-ash-ketchum-pok%C3%A9mon-gif-16795582...
Fact: ash has such a dense head it made his neck ultra resistant to weights being placed on his head
sturdy flower
bro can't even strike a pose
it's already aurafarming
jade ocean
Mr "Should've gotten a normal evo" also may keep Levitate
woeful carbon
Fact: ash has such a dense head it made his neck ultra resistant to weights bein...
Which is why he can put gible and larvitar on his head without his neck snapping
jade ocean
Which would set them apart even more
daring finch
Which is why he can put gible and larvitar on his head without his neck snapping
Man ash survived so much, gible is lucky ash didnt kill him
sturdy flower
shalpha if the shiny is actually decent
woeful carbon
the sword looks so fucking cool bro
Imagine it pulls it out and starts beating you with it
jade ocean
Also has a far better status movepool
sturdy flower
Imagine it pulls it out and starts beating you with it
that'd be sick
jade ocean
Encore, Recover, Cosmic Power, Calm Mind etc
unborn elm
I will die if there is never a mega haxorus
sturdy flower
how do we not have a mon like that
jade ocean
I think the only one out of these Metagross has is Calm Mind, but it's a physical attacker anyways
sturdy flower
it has a weapon stuck in it's body and it changes form pulling it out and using it to attack
lament glen
it's already aurafarming
that guy can't even farm aura in its official artwork
daring finch
it has a weapon stuck in it's body and it changes form pulling it out and using ...
Aegislash 
lament glen
that's fucking sick
wait you might be the first person I come across on the internet that likes him
thats epic
sturdy flower
Aegislash <:Quagless:1277334887178702959> <:clueless:983921396742770718>
weapon stuck In it's body, not body that's a weapon
sturdy flower
wait you might be the first person I come across on the internet that likes him
well I'm pretty neutral
but i love the mega
i don't understand all the hate
lament glen
they look the same to me
jade ocean
I prefer the Mega over the base, easily
It's mainly the posture
Baxcalibur's goofy-ass upright posture sucks
lament glen
well maybe a bit less empty and bald than the original
jade ocean
And looks awkward as hell
jade ocean
The ice on its head is also less awkward now
lament glen
in my head, I dont remember most of the originals design
sturdy flower
it's a beautiful mega, it builds onto the existing design without completely changing it
jade ocean
With that said the obvious change is quite clearly the massive fucking sword stuck in its body
sturdy flower
also why i adore mega froslass
lament glen
it kinda got drudigon-ified a bit
sturdy flower
it's just so perfect
lament glen
I hate mega frosslas xD
jade ocean
Definitely prefer it over base Bax a lot
lament glen
It's just a gigantamax to me
sturdy flower
I hate mega frosslas xD
i hate you
lament glen
daring finch
Only closest example of pulling a weapon from body is oshawott
jade ocean
Though tbh they could've done more
robust wren
I wish it looked more like a later Godzilla incarnation than a slightly different Baxcalibur
sturdy flower
should have been shin goji
jade ocean
Kinda empty tbh
daring finch
Shouldve been baby godzilla
jade ocean
No, fuck making it Godzilla
sturdy flower
well it literally is godzilla
jade ocean
Tbh it trying to be Godzilla makes me like it a lot less
sturdy flower
it's signature attack is literally a godzilla move
robust wren
What are the odds of Bax getting something like Sharpness or Arceus forbid Skill Link?
lament glen
Kinda empty tbh
thats what I said
daring finch
Oh yeah he does that
jade ocean
Like a lot of the issues I have with base Bax is that it tries to look like Godzilla
lament glen
What are the odds of Bax getting something like Sharpness or Arceus forbid Skill...
no sharpness is porygons signature move
jade ocean
But botches the execution very terribly
forest egret
I'm not really too fond of the Mega Baxcalibur design. The Chimecho one is sick though I like the direction they went with that
sturdy flower
I'm the opposite
lament glen
I don't get why they keep making dragon type semi legendaries anyway
sturdy flower
i love bax and despise chimecho
lament glen
just do like a grass type or smth
sturdy flower
it looks so cluttered and without any design direction
jade ocean
So them straying away from trying to make Bax fail to emulate Godzilla is nice
lament glen
I'm not really too fond of the Mega Baxcalibur design. The Chimecho one is sick ...
Chimecho is probably my favorite mega design period. But I'm not a huge fan of most of them
sturdy flower
i hate the giant tacky golden chingling
daring finch
I don't get why they keep making dragon type semi legendaries anyway
Goodra got robbed ngl
jade ocean
Besides we already have quite a few kaiju mons
jade ocean
Goodra got robbed ngl
Agreed
sturdy flower
i don't want them to keep making megas look like their preevos
it worked with eelektross and that's it
lament glen
i don't want them to keep making megas look like their preevos
better than whatever the hell they did with pyroar
forest egret
Chimecho is probably my favorite mega design period. But I'm not a huge fan of m...
Yeah it's one of the top ones for me
lament glen
or excadrill
sturdy flower
better than whatever the hell they did with pyroar
pyroar is not that bad
jade ocean
Tbh I'd say it worked for Chimecho for the same reason it worked for Eelektross
forest egret
Pyroar's mega is shit
lament glen
its actually a 0/10
sturdy flower
it's the kanji for blaze
lament glen
ok?
sturdy flower
its actually a 0/10
that's victreebel
forest egret
Yeah we know it's the kanji it still looks awful
sturdy flower
it's just a bigger mane how is it that disgusting
lament glen
also france doesnt use kanji
sturdy flower
it's not good but it's not vile
jade ocean
Like in terms of how well implementing the prevos into the designs for the Megas, I'd say Eelektross/Chimecho>Feraligatr>>>>>>Raichus
lament glen
is gamefrook stoopid?
jade ocean
Oh and Dnite I guess also does that but it isn't really that obvious
sturdy flower
white and gold is awesome
lament glen
the only good shiny is furfrou
sturdy flower
what
lament glen
its true
sturdy flower
say that to my shalpha mega delphox and greninja
jade ocean
the only good shiny is furfrou
I dont like shinies but that's a bit extreme, no
robust wren
no sharpness is porygons signature move
That's Sharpen, not Sharpness
forest egret
There's that one guy on twitter who keeps making a billion posts about how "You guys don't get it ok Mega Feraligatr is peak you just don't understand the design origins man" and it's like no, we do. He just looks like shit. That's kinda the same deal with Pyroar's design in my eyes
lament glen
I dont like shinies but that's a bit extreme, no
gotta ragebait a little
jade ocean
That's Sharpen, not Sharpness
Sharpen is also not Porygon's signature
sturdy flower
mega delphox is so good
lament glen
maybe I knew all of that and wrote that message anyway, who knows
sturdy flower
the shiny is incredible
forest egret
I like Mega Delphox
jade ocean
That said, for such a generic fucking move name, Sharpen is an incredibly rare move
lament glen
its aight. probably my favorite of the kalos starters, but I'm just neutral on all of them mostly
forest egret
I'm not really fond of the Greninja one
lament glen
I'm not really fond of the Greninja one
its gigantamax gen 8 water guy but a bit better
robust wren
That said, for such a generic fucking move name, Sharpen is an incredibly rare m...
Even worse is that it buffs attack despite only being on special Pokemon
sturdy flower
its gigantamax gen 8 water guy but a bit better
they literally look nothing alike
jade ocean
Even worse is that it buffs attack despite only being on special Pokemon
Hey, I think Diancie gets it too
Maybe
daring finch
just like me frfr
sturdy flower
dude mega diancie is so tiny
lament glen
they literally look nothing alike
idk they're kinda long
jade ocean
And it's mixed, with a Physical signature
jade ocean
its gigantamax gen 8 water guy but a bit better
Also this is a bit of a silly take
sturdy flower
i did right after the event went live
jade ocean
have you guys catched it yet
Caught what, Diancie?
lament glen
have you guys catched it yet
I probably won't, don't really care about diancie
sturdy flower
prediction right now: mega golisopod will be an online reward
lament glen
carbink is peak tho
sturdy flower
mark my words
sturdy flower
I probably won't, don't really care about diancie
i don't either but i might as well get it
sturdy flower
Caught what, Diancie?
yeah
lament glen
I'll nuke my safe file in who knows how many years anyway so no point
jade ocean
Yup, Diancie has been obtained
forest egret
Carpink
jade ocean
I think I'd probably put Mega Bax somewhere in low-mid A tier, and Chimecho maybe High A/Low S
Mega Bax is certainly better than Base Bax by a significant margin imo
lament glen
oh I might just do a tearlist really quick if I can find one with the new ones already
forest egret
Chimecho is a funny critter
robust wren
||For everyone who saw the leaked list of DLC Megas, which Pokemon has you the most excited, and which one has you the most worried?||
||I'm excited for Mega Glimmora and scared of how they could make Crabominable worse||
sturdy flower
||For everyone who saw the leaked list of DLC Megas, which Pokemon has you the m...
excited for ||golisopod and darkrai||
forest egret
||I'm curious as to what the golisopod will even look like||
That's the one I wanna see the most I think
sturdy flower
but honestly they could fuck up any of them
sturdy flower
That's the one I wanna see the most I think
i hope they make it look like a shogun
forest egret
I guess I'm just curious on how they're gonna add to an already detailed design
It seems like something pretty easy to fuck up so I'm curious
robust wren
||Mega Golisopod should get the Red Card as an ability as a contrast to Emergency Exit. One, it's full circle, and two, it helps balance setup sweepers||
lament glen
||For everyone who saw the leaked list of DLC Megas, which Pokemon has you the m...
||Glimmora is my favorite gen 9 mon so definetly that||
and then chimecho in S and gen 9 dino in D
robust wren
||The literal first result I got when looking up Mega Glimmora fan designs was one where it resembled the Ultimate Weapon, which seems pretty logical for its Mega, but I do wonder what else can be done with it||
lament glen
i don't want it to reference some dumb pokemon lore thing
just do a good standalone design
robust wren
||I have seen theories that the Ultimate Weapon was built out of Tera Crystals, but I doubt Gamefreak would ever confirm something like that||
jade ocean
||Mega Golisopod should get the Red Card as an ability as a contrast to Emergenc...
You're cooking
jade ocean
||For everyone who saw the leaked list of DLC Megas, which Pokemon has you the m...
||As in, design or competitive?||
robust wren
||As in, design or competitive?||
||either works for me||
jade ocean
||Bax and Mag are low end Ubers so I don't think their Megas will affect my nightmares||
lament glen
btw this is kinda random but I hate how almost every dialogue in ZA is just about niche lore and gameplay aspects, especially in the sidequests. It makes the world feel so manufactured.
It felt kinda charming for the first few hours but after that its just tedious as hell, and it feels so shallow
jade ocean
||Glimmora I am both excited for and worried about in both competitive and design||
||There's so many ways this could go right, wrong, or straight up terrifying and nightmare inducing||
lament glen
||Honestly just make the flower bigger and a bit more colorful||
jade ocean
||Golisopod though, that one's got potential||
||Just please don't give it Emergency Exit||
lament glen
||Emergency Entrance||
robust wren
||Mega Staraptor might finally find a place in OU like it tried to jockey for for several generations||
lament glen
||Staraptor is already perfect, giving it a mega feels wrong to me||
||Should have given it to unfezant instead, that guy is down bad||
||Could even do 1 design for both male and female by just putting the kanji for fire on their head||
willow kelp
What's the best way of shiny hunting Charmander without a turbo controller? Just spamming the fast travel under wz20?
jade ocean
||Could even do 1 design for both male and female by just putting the kanji for ...
||Nah, the kanji for lucky||
||Because I'm pretty sure it gets Super Luck?||
lament glen
no because then it would look like they actually cared
jade ocean
no because then it would look like they actually cared
I mean they cared enough to use the correct word
lament glen
just make them fire flying type trust me its fine
lament glen
and give them gale wing
harsh oasis
Scolipede in C is CRAZY
lament glen
idk it feels uncomfortably bulky to me
like its wearing 3 winter jackets on top of each other
desert current
I genuinely kinda hate ranked... Nothing is more infuriating when your opponent is in the red and they just switch Pokemon
And Xerneas is flipping everywhere and stupidly bulky
lament glen
hate draft some steel type with priority moves
desert current
You can't use any of the fun Pokemon because they're not meta viable either
lament glen
bullet punch all those xerneases to hell before they switch out
lament glen
You can't use any of the fun Pokemon because they're not meta viable either
this game was never gonna have a healthy meta tho, I feel like that was obvious. The battle system is way too simple and depthless and gamefreak has 0 experience in this kind of combat
desert current
yeah...
willow kelp
Xerneas is absolutely everywhere atm
willow kelp
this game was never gonna have a healthy meta tho, I feel like that was obvious....
Yeah it isn't great, but had some fun in it the first weeks
desert current
The fact that they apparently decreased damage in Ranked just to balance it says a lot...
robust wren
Sounds like there's no shot of me using what I can cobble together in my playthrough to get the Delphoxite, even with pity points... All I want is to use it in a playthrough, why did the WMD Deer have to be legalized
desert current
I mean even if you lose you tend to get points, its not actually too hard to get it
willow kelp
Sounds like there's no shot of me using what I can cobble together in my playthr...
You don't need to get that high, and you get points every game you play
lament glen
Just run a water mon like Clawitzer with surf and you'll pick up a kill here and there. That's what I've done in the few matches I've played
willow kelp
Most frustrating about it rn is the amount of shinys other people have that I just can't seem to encounter 🙈
lament glen
btw do people in the high ranks use protect? is it a good move?
willow kelp
With them not blocking plus moves it's not great
lament glen
everything else you just spam
willow kelp
Moves like fly, dig and dragon rush do some dodging
lament glen
but people can switch out while the move charges
willow kelp
And mega evolving sometimes seems to evade damage
willow kelp
but people can switch out while the move charges
Only 3 times
And they can't have used a moves themselves or they are to late
supple fern
It was tricky to notice on its own l, but I had a hunch the ice felt off in the sunset.
desert current
I'm hunting for a shiny magikarp in wild area 2... And despite there being FIVE different Magikarp spawns at the entrance, it chose to make the Bedew shiny. :/
desert current
Yes
I didn't have one yet, but its still dissapointing that it chose the one mon I wasn't hunting for
indigo mango
they gave Korrina some god awful fit
desert current
I kinda hate how shiny hunting in Z-A is "pay to win."
Like, most shiny hunting methods are completely AFK-able... But only if you have a macro. Otherwise its just the most tedious shiny hunting methods ever conceived.
indigo mango
wut
desert current
they gave Korrina some god awful fit
ikr? Like what were the character designers doing? Never cook again...
indigo mango
fast traveling takes a second
desert current
That doesn't make it less tedious and boring
indigo mango
za is probably the easiest game to shiny hunt in by far without that
indigo mango
That doesn't make it less tedious and boring
well yeah its shiny hunting
za is making that part easier tho. its not za thats the issue here. just shiny hunting in general
desert current
It wasn't this boring in Scarlet & Violet
In that game it at least had player involvement, you had methods to increase the odds with sandwiches, and you had to pay attention and keep an eye out for them
And in PLA they had outbreaks that you could go find to hunt for them instead of just static spawns
Meanwhile in Z-A its pretty much just teleporting over and over again, or entering and exiting doors/teleporters.
Easy to AFK with macro controllers, but mind numbing otherwise
Even moreso then previous methods
indigo mango
ikr? Like what were the character designers doing? Never cook again...
truing
desert current
Like I've shiny hunted in the past... I wasted weeks of my life using my 2DS and 3DS to hatch Pumpkaboo and Phantump eggs on both games at once. It was slow and I never felt it was worth doing again.
Shiny hunting was never fun until the Switch games, and SV and PLA was the first time it felt like it was worth the time investment.
In Z-A it is still easier, but I dunno I feel like something was lost here.
indigo mango
question..how do we think we will do mega ||groudon and kyorge will we just say the origin forms are megas or will they get new ones...i personally go with new but just like Zygarde needs to be Complete, i could see them only being able to Mega when in their Primal Form||
desert current
question..how do we think we will do mega ||groudon and kyorge will we just say ...
I don't expect they'll get Megas...
willow kelp
Btw, do the Pokemon colours seem more saturated in za, or is that just my hopes and dreams
indigo mango
I don't expect they'll get Megas...
i mean why bring specially them into a mega dlc then
willow kelp
Feel like in SV they were less saturated
desert current
i mean why bring specially them into a mega dlc then
Primal Forms are already the same thing as Megas (stat wise), so slapping EVEN MORE stats would be the most insane thing to do.
||None of the leaks say anything about them getting Mega forms anyways.||
desert current
Feel like in SV they were less saturated
SV definitely had a more "realistic" art style, whereas Z-A went back to a more stylized cell shaded look
indigo mango
Primal Forms are already the same thing as Megas (stat wise), so slapping EVEN M...
eh only feeling it cause they are the only ones to get special donuts in a dlc all about megas and one of the trio already has one
desert current
They'll probably bring back the Primal forms, but those already sorta count as megas anyways
robust wren
they gave Korrina some god awful fit
The tie dye outfit combined with the dull gray gloves and... Mega Stone fitness brace...? Really clash with each other in the absolute worst way
desert current
I dunno what the character designers were thinking... Never cook again PLEASE!
jade ocean
question..how do we think we will do mega ||groudon and kyorge will we just say ...
We are NOT doing Mega Primal Groudon
They're just gonna have them be Primal for sure
Like first of all, how do you even hold a mega stone while Primal
Second of all, 870 fucking BST???
Like how do you even distribute the extra 100
robust wren
Mega Primal Groudon would just evaporate all water on the face of the planet alongside any Water type Pokemon, plunging the world into an apocalypse
indigo mango
could easily just change the primal stats around not add more
robust wren
The fact that 200+ Attacking stats are even a possibility now is a sign that power creep has gone too far
jade ocean
The fact that 200+ Attacking stats are even a possibility now is a sign that pow...
At least it's only 1 mon so far
indigo mango
i dont care for the competetive, just saying how i think it be interesting to handle
jade ocean
And I don't think there will be a mon above 200 SpA anytime soon
Another one I mean
Same for Attack
robust wren
And I don't think there will be a mon above 200 SpA anytime soon
In before Gen 10 DLC adds two new Regis based on the Bronze Age and distant future with 200 Attack and Special Attack respectively
jade ocean
In before Gen 10 DLC adds two new Regis based on the Bronze Age and distant futu...
Those don't count
Because they're the Regis
And will thus be dogshit anyways
It is law
Even the 2 newest ones aren't all that amazing, Regidrago is NUBL and sure Regieleki is Ubers rn but remove Tera and it'd be like, RU at best
Like I guarantee you
They'll make the Regieleki with 200 Attack based on the Carboniferous or some shit and it'd be a Bug type so it'll get walled even with 200 Attack
Like it'll look like this
80
200
100
100
50
50
And then it'll get walled by every Corviknight and Skarmory in the world
marble crater
can anyone help me with trade evos
woeful flume
7 shiny diggersby while hunting chespin
worn cobalt
can anyone help me with trade evos
Are you looking just for the evos or wanting to keep your mons? There are trade codes you can use to get the base game trade evos. Just make sure to check if the mon has a trade item if it needs it to evolve.
Anyways, what I came here to say is I caught Diancie in a heal ball! So fun!
wide kraken
Xern has taken over the meta on ranked
woeful flume
well i lost a shiny and i dont know where it spawned at all lol
worn cobalt
I also managed to get both a shiny male and female Espurr.
Autobenching for a shiny ralts or two right now.
civic cave
daily life-risking photo (1/?)
https://x.com/pipihina2006/status/1986039537555124286
X
sturdy flower
rank F in online
that was pretty fast
if I didn't suck shit i would have been A rank ages ago
summer flare
started a poison/bug(?) themed run, you'll nevwr guess which fucking pokemon was shiny in TUTORIAL ROUTE 1
wispy kernel
Mareep
summer flare
wispy kernel
damn
summer flare
BLESSED RUN
wispy kernel
Mareep cooler
summer flare
i cant use mareep
wispy kernel
shouldve gotten a tera bug mareep smh
summer flare
yeah let me get a tera orb from scarvi
wispy kernel
smuggle a tera orb into Kalos
summer flare
"well of course you're not alone, you have- you- um. a shiny weedle, a normal weedle, and four scatterbug. huh."
radiant otter
HOLY SHIT I GOT MY TARGET SHINY ALPHA FROM ZONE 20
wispy kernel
if I ever tried a run like that it would be with dragon types cuz theyre fucking awesome
radiant otter
what do i name it
summer flare
trans wrath
wispy kernel
jim
summer flare
bc it probably tried to murder you
wispy kernel
or Lebanne
spare roost
Yaru
spare roost
if anything its Jacinthe thats the gay one, Lebanne is held against her will
wispy kernel
Jim
wispy kernel
if anything its Jacinthe thats the gay one, Lebanne is held against her will
Lebanne got forcefemmed by Jacinthe. trust me I’m literally Jane Game Freak
spare roost
Lebanne got forcefemmed by Jacinthe. trust me I’m literally Jane Game Freak
yeah, forced.
wispy kernel
I was there when it happened
summer flare
"i was the fem" type shit
spare roost
if she liked it she wouldn't be complaining to the player about how much she liked being away from her
wispy kernel
she was also the one who agreed to the bet while going into a fight with only dragon types against a fairy type user
spare roost
as a hotheaded individual, you make bets and regret it after the fact
i can also see it as a matter of pride like. "I gotta keep my word or else im like all the other losers" type deal
radiant otter
AHHHHHHHHH
spare roost
LRTS GO
radiant otter
ignore the fit my sense of fashion is disgusting
desert current
I'm hunting for a shiny magikarp in wild area 2... And despite there being FIVE ...
Its been almost 3 hours man... 💀
I just wanted a red gyrados to match my aesthetic in ranked battles
lime void
My Legends Z-A living dex is now complete
summer flare
hehe kakuna is highlighter lime
radiant otter
kakuna is very hard to miss
summer flare
the fact i didnt wven need to shiny hunt. literally my very first weedle encounter of the entire game was shiny
radiant otter
bruh it took me 30 hours to get my first shiny
summer flare
its literally not even my normal game, it's a profile for a themed run likr what even
radiant otter
shiny worm tho🤷♀️
marble crater
just found a shiny flabebe
radiant otter
what color flower?
wispy kernel
Got an awesome shiny guy (spoilered cuz new mega) what do I name her
desert current
Got an awesome shiny guy (spoilered cuz new mega) what do I name her
Azula (cause its blue)
wispy kernel
that is purple
worn cobalt
Azula, because it's not purple
marble crater
what color flower?
red
desert current
That is NOT purple
worn cobalt
I see purple, but Azula is a blue name.
desert current
its like indigo or something... the exact middle ground between blue and purple.
close enough
worn cobalt
rn i'm autobenching for another shiny Staryu. So I can keep a shiny staryu and evolve one.
I did give up part way, but I got a Shiny Male Ralts, so Shiny Gallade can happen!
sturdy flower
Got an awesome shiny guy (spoilered cuz new mega) what do I name her
it's been 3 weeks man
wispy kernel
yeah but I still wanna be careful
worn cobalt
Some people aren't able to get the game til december.
summer flare
how do u think taunie feels knowing i immediately boxed totodile
worn cobalt
Got an awesome shiny guy (spoilered cuz new mega) what do I name her
Wait, I got a Shalpha of this pokemon, does that mean it's gonna look like this?
wispy kernel
Wait, I got a Shalpha of this pokemon, does that mean it's gonna look like this?
when you mega it yeah
worn cobalt
sweet.
storm fog
lime void
I don’t think it’s sure either
meager lynx
I am not crazy, this is more true every day
pastel pond
CHIMECHO RAAAAAAH
i wish the actual chimecho body changed more idk why its just the headpiece thats different
radiant otter
i love both of those megas
they’ve nailed the 4 that they’ve revealed so far including the raichus
meager lynx
they’ve nailed the 4 that they’ve revealed so far including the raichus
I would need to stop you right there
I agree these two are really really good
But Raichu?
Nah
Bottom tier at best
radiant otter
i like the designs for them
they aren’t top tier megas but they’re good
they do enough for me to call them good
wispy kernel
GUYS
I AM AT 999/1000 BATTLES
I am going to do a reward match for my 1000th cuz it’d be cool
ITS AGAINST JACINTHE FUCK YEAH
radiant otter
shiny charm does wonders have a good time with it
wispy kernel
Jacinthe theme + Shiny Charm what a day to be alive
pastel pond
Bottom tier at best
raichu megas are the one design i feel contempt for
like sorry to be a hater about them but just
theyre the one design i can think of where the idea behind them is outright angering
meager lynx
they aren’t top tier megas but they’re good
They're just two mega Pikachus 
surreal belfry
I’m calling it Compost
summer flare
raichu megas exist only because they're trying to stick with the "only pokemon that can't evolve can mega :)"
otherwise it would be pikachu
pastel pond
that;s stupid as hell to me because I can think of an infinitely better mega raichu with pikachu design elements
summer flare
literally give us gorochu but with mega design elements
pastel pond
just implement pikachu as a stand made of electricity or as little electrical summons or as electrical armor
summer flare
or just. give raichu some fucking love, damn
pastel pond
yeah i agree with that but im saying that the pikachu idea couldve worked
summer flare
well, other than my literal first weedle of the game being shiny, i haven't found any more shinies yet in my bug/poison run
pastel pond
i literally drew redesigns of mega raichu based on goruchu and pikablu because i was mad
summer flare
right now my team is Beedrill, Vivillion, Budew, and Trubbish. I have open world rn so i'm hoping I can find spinarak. Or probably even a Gastly, tho i might end up replacing it later with a gengar from the syndicate mission
planning on having skrelp when i can tho
jade ocean
right now my team is Beedrill, Vivillion, Budew, and Trubbish. I have open world...
Wait why is Vivillon there
I was like "Yeah just a normal Mono Poison team"
Before I saw Vivillon
summer flare
real
wispy kernel
raichu megas are the one design i feel contempt for
mega raichu x is like. fine to me I guess. I don’t like it but it’s not horrible
but oh my god mega raichu y. I HATE mega raichu y. that is not raichu. that is pikachu painted to look like a raichu
its also just fucking ugly as shit
mega raichu x accomplishes the bare minimum a mega should. it looks like the base pokemon
mega raichu y fails at even that
the most basic thing ever
vocal helm
I named him Ube
pastel pond
just implement pikachu as a stand made of electricity or as little electrical su...
sorry i had no reference image but cmon
i know this sketch isnt great but i feel like this has more to it than just raichu devolving
marble crater
a gorgiest just broke out the wild area with shadow sneak just to take my poor ampharos out before despaawning 😭
desert current
Okay I'm genuinely sick of ranked battles, and this is literally the first day trying it.
Its just Xerneas and Metagross over and over again
Like what do you do? Nothing that's what.
Can't use ANY of the Pokemon I like, you either use the three viable mons or you just lose.
sturdy flower
that's pretty much it
if you get lucky you can place second or first
most of the time you're placing fourth no matter what
still managed to reach rank D in a couple hours
but ranking up is useless if you don't place well
slate loom
Man trying to use Delphox and Mystical fire SEEMS good, and Fire blast SEEMS fantastic, but their reach is so short and their times too long, you can't hit anybody. I found heatwave and Psychic are my main go toos now
it also hurts that everyone has a ground or water or rock move
storm bone
When does season 2 end ?