pokemon-winds-waves

[unborn elm]

But like

Imagine your a normal citizen and

[worn cobalt]

I accidentally got a shiny alpha Scrafty.

[lime void]

They’d have to give the other 2 Sinnoh starters megas too.

[unborn elm]

You see a big ass Patrick star running at you with 120 base speed

[unborn elm]

I mean

[jade ocean]

Not if they put it into a Legends game or something

Tbh I feel sorry for Typhlosion

[unborn elm]

Exactly

Yea

[jade ocean]

Bro's just gonna be the worst of the Johto starters by a long shot now

[unborn elm]

It got the hisuian form tho

[jade ocean]

Probably will be worse than Mega Meganium

[lime void]

You really think they’re gonna have megas outside of this game

[jade ocean]

Mega Meganium unironically got kinda crazy stat buffs

[jade ocean]

Champions

[lime void]

Typhlosion already got a Hisuian form

[jade ocean]

And also, NatDex formats

[jade ocean]

One that'll pale in comparison with the Megas

[lime void]

They’re not making new megas in that

[jade ocean]

Mega Dnite's already confirmed for Champions

Oh you mean like new megas after ZA

Yeah it probably isn't extremely likely

But I can dream

Anyways Mega Gigalith where it blowing up mountains with energy beams actually looks like something realistic

60 SpA 💀

Give it like a Special Huge Power or something idk

Then shove a ton of points into bulk and maybe some in Attack

It's still a bulky Rock type it'll be fine

[hazy knot]

woohoo shalpha jolteon!!

[worn cobalt]

I got a Shalpha Malamar just a bit ago. That was nice.

[hazy knot]

epic

[lime void]

Y'all need to learn to flex your shinys properly. You should be including a picture of the shinys

[hazy knot]

you right

[edgy palm]

So we're just gonna overlook Floette? The only reason it gets a mega is because it's AZ's Floette but technically it's not fully evolved either. 😅

At least give Jynx one then? XD

[worn cobalt]

Spoilers, but that mon is unable to evolve, which is the real requirement.

[summer flare]

it's hard to call that spoilers when dataminers and hackers have known since XY that it's an entirely different pokemon
although, I'm satisfied with the explaination they gave as to why she can't or might not be able to evolve

and it's sort of a no-brainer why she would be different to begin with

[worn cobalt]

I meant the Floette gets a mega part. That's spoilers for this game.

[summer flare]

that too

[worn cobalt]

-# because of this, Jynx gets no mega.

[desert current]

Missed opportunity.

[desert current]

Based on Eternal Floette's dex entries, it (sorta) implies that the flower isn't part of its body (it says "This rare Floette holds a plant that died out in ancient times.")... And yet the flower is the only part of it that changes when it Mega Evolves.

Its Mega dex entry even states "The flower now attacks enemies on its own," and when it takes over Prism Tower and becomes Hyperrogue Ange Floette, its specifically the flower that goes out of control.

So yeah... My theory is that the reason AZ's Floette is able to mega evolve is because its the flower that does it, not Floette herself (like how Mega Slowbro only changes the shellder on its tail).

[radiant otter]

SPRITZEE!!!!

[desert current]

Good luck evolving it though...

Unless you know someone in-person, its gonna be hard to evolve it and actually get it back afterwards.

[radiant otter]

yeah that part might suck

for now i’m happy with my shiny spritzee

also this took about 100 resets and i’m on 550 with fennekin

[worn cobalt]

I got a shiny drampa!

[worn cobalt]

Trying to get shiny goomy now.

Didn't get shiny goomy, rain stopped

Trying to afk 18 rn.

[worn cobalt]

Are you still looking for fennekin? What method are you using to hunt? And are you looking for just shiny or for shalpha?

[summer flare]

visually yes, but ||h-zoroark has no ties to Team Flare, so fuckass pyroar it is||

as badly as i would have liked it in ZA, lol. tho it becomes much harder to justify wild regional forms or even someone willing to give up something so rare without being able to find the normal variant, even with the hisui exhibit.

[desert current]

They coulda had her give you a hisuian zorua as a post game side quest or something, that woulda been cool

I gotta say, I absolutely ADORE this shot from the end credits!

||Look at little Floette copying Taunie's pose! Its so dang cute. XD||

[robust wren]

This reminds me of the concept I saw a while ago of a Mega Zoroark that had a unique ability that made it so Zoroark's Illusion basically functioned like Mimikyu's Disguise ability, and I'm still terrified of the gameplay ramifications that would have

[desert current]

Dang I wish, that would be awesome XD

If anything deserves to be a meta threat, its Zoroark

[storm bone]

I was mad that mega slowking was not in ZA even tho it was in xy and then I remembered that it does not exist

[wooden lion]

Considering ||Froslass|| got a mega in ZA, Slowking definitely should have

Might get one in the dlc

[signal elbow]

So if you capture an alpha do they have better IVs or something?

[daring finch]

they have 3 guaranteed "best" IV's

[signal elbow]

Is there an alpha Growlithe somewhere?

'cause I need my puppy

[storm bone]

Any mon in a wild zone can be alpha

[wispy kernel]

Growlithe is not in ZA

[signal elbow]

NOOOOOOOO

[wispy kernel]

There’s Houndour as a replacement

[daring finch]

Furfrou, Houndoom, Manectric are all doges I think

[wispy kernel]

I was bored so I just decided to check what pokeballs the major characters in ZA keep their pokemon in
Urbain/Taunie: Pokeballs
Naveen: Premier Balls
Lida: Dive Balls
Emma: Pokeballs
Vinnie: Ultra Balls
Rank F Characters
||Tarragon: Repeat Balls||
||Canari: Quick Balls||
Rank E Characters
||Gwynn: Nest Balls||
||Ivor: Ultra Balls||
Rank D Characters
||Philippe: Heavy Balls||
||Corbeau: Dusk Balls||
Rank C Characters
||Lebanne: Great Balls||
||Jacinthe: Luxury Balls||
Rank B Characters
||Griselle: Quick Balls||
||Grisham: Timer Balls||
Post Game Fight
||L: Pokeballs||

wait shit I forgot Emma

[rustic shell]

I made it all the way rank B im so close

Then end game

[edgy palm]

Same. How many tickets til A rank? I'm at work so I can't check 😅

Also, does anyone else find it funny that the male mc and female mc look a lot like Grace and Prof. Sycamore?

[radiant otter]

regular shiny from bench method in zone 18

i have instead found 6 swablus

stupid piss birds

[lime void]

https://tenor.com/view/howrude-fullhouse-gif-21855082

[edgy palm]

All those shinies...

[radiant otter]

i like swablu but not when they take the place of fennekin

[edgy palm]

Valid

This game is making me hate Froakie 🤣

[storm bone]

News tommorow

Guys if you want a greninjite (hopefully correct name of the mega stone) you only have a few hours left

[lime void]

You can get one in the next set of rank matches as well

[plucky escarp]

different one though, FOMO and all

[harsh oasis]

Lmao

I actually got my rock a week earlier than yours, and therefore I am much superi- gets bowled over by mega water shurikans

[worn cobalt]

If you need it, I have an extra shiny fennekin.

[wispy kernel]

https://x.com/PokemonNewsUK/status/1986071889979068598

Pokémon UK (@PokemonNewsUK)

Stay tuned for an update on #PokemonLegendsZA – Mega Dimension tomorrow at 2PM GMT! 👀

X · Nov 5, 2025, 2:03 PM

random dlc news drop tomorrow

[lime void]

You’re a little late

[wispy kernel]

damn

[wispy kernel]

wrong btw

Greninjite is available in Season 2 as well

super early

[polar hatch]

I'm SUPER EXITED FOR THE DLCs !!!

[lime void]

#pokemon-winds-waves message you really need to start reading the chat

[lunar pumice]

Can anyone do link trade w me?

[plucky escarp]

im not free but if you are only doing it for dex and dont want your specific mon back, use trade codes

[worn cobalt]

If it requires an item, always double check they included the item

[bright cedar]

Made this thing

[harsh oasis]

XD

That's awesome

[worn cobalt]

I have almost a whole box of extra shinies for trade. Right now, grinding for (what hopefully occurs) shiny Eevee, but I have a bunch of shinies I don't need and would love to trade for anyone else's extra shinies.

[edgy palm]

I'm now curious about what the new Megas abilities will be assuming they are in the next game.

[worn cobalt]

They should be in Champions or whatever that game is called.

[jade ocean]

The only thing we know 100% is that Mega Starmie will lose 40 Attack and gain Pure/Huge Power

We know this because Medicham, Mega Medicham and Mega Mawile have 140% of their original Attack to make up for the lack of abilities

[edgy palm]

So it'll become relevant again

[jade ocean]

Mega Starmie has 140 Attack, and a BST increase of 140

[worn cobalt]

Also, I'd rather send the shinies I have to homes here instead of randomly trading with people from discord servers I don't hang out in.

[spare roost]

the funny thing is, if you wait, you only have to reach rank X or something instead of Rank H for the mega greninjite

[spare roost]

Probably not the next game, but in Pokemon Championship for sure

[worn cobalt]

I am interested in trading for one of your shiny swablus if you are open to it.

[edgy palm]

What I really wanna see are the 16 new Megas coming out.

[jade ocean]

As in, the leaked event and DLC ones?

[edgy palm]

Yup

All we saw were the two Raichu ones

[jade ocean]

I'm a bit scared for what's to come tbh, there's some really crazy Megas here

||They're surely not gonna ruin Mega Garchomp a 2nd time right?||

||RIGHT???||

[storm bone]

I really hope we get mega typhlosion in the trailer , pls let us complete the gen 2 mega t rio

[jade ocean]

||I genuinely don't think they could ruin Mega Magearna though||

[edgy palm]

||To be fair, it's running a muck in this game right now||

[storm bone]

I don't even liek typhlosion

[jade ocean]

||And it'd be exceedingly difficult to ruin Mega Baxcalibur too||

[jade ocean]

||True, true||

[storm bone]

hopefully they don't give megas to gen 9

[jade ocean]

That said, Glaceon is also great in this meta

(Flareon fans in SHAMBLES)

[storm bone]

one day they should give all the eeveelutions megas

[worn cobalt]

One day they should give all the stones eeveelutions.

[storm bone]

what type would dawn stone ?

[edgy palm]

Not me waiting for a dragon-type Eeveelution...

[worn cobalt]

Dusk and Dawn could go to Espeon and Umbreon, and sun and moon to other types.

[jade ocean]

Dawn Stone is described as sparkling

Dazzling Gleam is a Fairy move

[edgy palm]

Equip Eevee with a Dragon Fang

[jade ocean]

So idk make it evolve into Sylveon or something idk

Honestly forget giving all the stones eeveelutions

I'd rather focus on giving all the types eeveelutions

Because that's less complicated than trying to link stones to types

[worn cobalt]

Just make some of the stones evolve to interesting types, like, idk, shiny to fighting or something.

[jade ocean]

Like yeah yeah Eevee evolves into all the special types whatever

[edgy palm]

Maybe certain locations evolve them like Glaceon and Leafeon?

[jade ocean]

Just like make a regional Eevee

That evolves into all the physical ones

Simple

[storm bone]

no , not a regional. I want an evve that is 20 years old to be able to evovle in the lastest eeveelution

like let every eevee evovle into it

[jade ocean]

That works too

Flying Type Eevee should be a Gryphon

[worn cobalt]

Grypheon.

[jade ocean]

Partially to keep it mammalian

But also I need to rationalise giving it Brave Bird

Tbf, a bat learns Brave Bird

So I shouldn't need to worry too much

But it is also like

One of the only, if not the only non bird to learn it

Like c'mon Aerodactyl's a reptile

That's close enough

[worn cobalt]

I wonder what brave bird's name is in Japanese. that'd probably explain it. Kinda like Meteor Mash being a punching move because it's japanese name translates to comet punch.

[jade ocean]

All birds are reptiles anyways

[jade ocean]

Still Brave Bird

[edgy palm]

How about correcting the fact that Luvdisc doesn't evolve into Alomomola?

[jade ocean]

Yeah no only Mew and Crobat learn it out of any non bird

[worn cobalt]

but they are based on two different fish?

[jade ocean]

Not even another reptile, 2 mammals

[edgy palm]

And yet Pikipek (a woodpecker) turns into a Toucan...

[storm bone]

french za logo vs japanese and english logo

[desert current]

Do you guys think the Greninja mega stone will still be available during season 3?

[worn cobalt]

Doubt it, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Delphox mega stone is available still.

[desert current]

I kinda wanna abuse the NSO free trail to get all three, but if it isn't obtainable then....

[edgy palm]

Pokémon just needs to add a few new type combinations.

[worn cobalt]

I need to think of my team to prepare for Season 2. Since I stopped thinking "competitively" and focused on shiny hunting.

[jade ocean]

With that said the 4 Flying types with the highest Attack all have reliable non Brave Bird STAB

Rayquaza/Mega Rayquaza has Dragon Ascent

Mega Pinsir and Salamence have Aerilate

Base Salamence, yeah no rip bozo

[worn cobalt]

So far, I have Shiny Greninja trained for it, and I'd love a shalpha Excadrill. But even Alpha excadrill is fine.

[jade ocean]

That's also ignoring the fact that technically 4th place is a tie

And the other 4th placer gets jack shit

Not even any good special Flying STAB

[desert current]

Hm... Now that I think of it, if abilities don't exist in Z-A did Mega Pinsir get new flying moves?

Its literally JUST Aerial Ace 😭

[jade ocean]

Aerial Ace

[edgy palm]

It makes me wonder how they made up for the abilities when certain Megas depend on them

[jade ocean]

It's Pinsover

[robust wren]

I'm just going to accumulate pity points for Season 2 so I can use Mega Delphox for a playthrough

[jade ocean]

I've heard Kangaskhan still hits twice

[edgy palm]

O.o

[jade ocean]

And I've already talked about the Huge/Pure Power stuff

Malamar and Eelektross

Uhh

[desert current]

They did the bare minimum, even Mega Meganium only has two Fairy moves... 💀

[jade ocean]

Yeah it's a bit sad

[jade ocean]

Tbf are you really gonna run more than 2 Fairy moves

[edgy palm]

I feel like Eelektross was done dirty...

[desert current]

Can confirm Eelektross does not levitate.

[jade ocean]

I will say, should've gotten Moonblast instead of only Dgleam and I believe Dkiss?

But like

[desert current]

No, but it is sad that it doesn't even get Draining Kiss

[jade ocean]

Huh

Wait then what is the other Fairy move

I could've sworn it wasn't Moonblast

[desert current]

Actually... Now that I think of it, I think there might only be like 5 total fairy moves in the game.

[edgy palm]

Play Rough?

[jade ocean]

Disarming Voice 💀

[desert current]

Its just Disarming Voice

lol

[jade ocean]

Anyways, Moonblast not being on Fairy types is, uh

Surprisingly not too uncommon

I know Tapu Koko doesn't have it

[robust wren]

Mega Meganium getting the Tapu Bulu treatment

[edgy palm]

It's good that Gardevoir gets it a 49

[jade ocean]

And Hatterene doesn't either

[edgy palm]

That's a shame

[desert current]

Yeah but Dazzling Gleam kinda sucks in this game. Its one of those rare special attacks that requires close range.

You have no idea how many times it missed when my Sylveon or Dedenne used it...

[jade ocean]

So yeah not really anything unordinary, sadly

Anyways, what does Mega Alt get for Fairy moves?

[radiant otter]

once i find a fennekin i’ll start trading a bunch of my spares

[desert current]

Altaria has moonblast

[robust wren]

Here's hoping Mega Meganium gets a solid ability cause it's looking rough for it

[edgy palm]

It would be better if it was a ranged AOE instead of needing to be close up

[jade ocean]

Neat

[desert current]

Its actually not even new to Z-A its had it for a while

[worn cobalt]

Do you want my extra fennekin?

[jade ocean]

That's interesting

Any Play Rough to be seen?

Mega Alt is traditionally a physical attacker after all, even with equal Attack and SpA

[desert current]

It is? I always thought it was more a special attacker...

[radiant otter]

nah this is one of the ones i prefer to actually hunt for

[desert current]

I guess... Obviously... they're equal sooo

[radiant otter]

thank you though

[jade ocean]

Ddance Return/Frustration is one hell of a drug

[desert current]

True.

[jade ocean]

Especially with EQ

[desert current]

I forgot it had Dragon Dance tbh

[edgy palm]

Garchomp is crying in a corner...

[jade ocean]

Like iirc the set was Ddance Return EQ Roost or something like that

[robust wren]

MegAltaria will probably become a special attacker now that it's best Fairy STAB is Pixilate Hyper Voice

[jade ocean]

Very fun set all things considered

[robust wren]

RIP Return

[jade ocean]

Apparently the set also could've ran Facade so it still has 1 option to use for physical sets

[desert current]

I hate that NSO only applies to a single account unless you pay extra for the family version

[jade ocean]

I mean an obviously worse one but still

[robust wren]

Facade without the ability to hold one of the Orbs is rough

[desert current]

Like Nintendo really squeezing as much as they can out of it...
(I have multiple save files so that sucks)

[edgy palm]

What I wanna know is, what's up with Froslass having a lower Sp.Atk?

[jade ocean]

Yeah, the main idea is that it makes opponents think twice on burning you as Mega Alt

But like

Now they just know to avoid it

Tbf Pixilate makes Facade not that weak

It's like 84 BP before Status

[desert current]

Froslass has equal attack and special attack (and its Mega has wayyy higher special attack)

[jade ocean]

Froslass in general is just sad

I mean it has the type and speed to be a pretty good offensive mon

But it has none of the actual damaging stats

[edgy palm]

Mine has a lower Sp.Atk ._. the Mega fixes it but still

[jade ocean]

Thankfully the Mega fixes that

[jade ocean]

70 Attack and SpA

[desert current]

Must be its IVs/Evs then

[jade ocean]

So very much could vary with IVs and EVs

Or was it 80?

[desert current]

Its base 80 in both

[jade ocean]

Idk 70 and 80 isn't that different in the grand scheme of things they're both terrible

[edgy palm]

Meh, I just Mega and nuke

[robust wren]

I really hope Mega Froslass gets Snow Warning and becomes the freeze villain we need to finally replace Freeze with Frostbite

[desert current]

Mega has 140 sp. atk and 120 speed though, so that's nice

[jade ocean]

I've definitely felt that Base 80 SpA on my Froslass

Never feels like it OHKOs anything without Mega

[desert current]

The unfortunate part about Z-A's battle style is that Megas are limited time so if a mon REALLY relies on their Mega, they're kind of at a huge disadvantage

[edgy palm]

What are the chances that the ||new Mega Garchomp is a Special Attack speed demon?||

[robust wren]

It says a lot that Froslass's entire gimmick in competitive was setting up Spikes then dying and hoping to take something with her

[desert current]

You can't just mega them from the start and stay for the rest of the battle

[desert current]

Oof💀

[desert current]

I'd say pretty high chances... I don't see them having ANOTHER physical Garchomp

[jade ocean]

Better than Glalie's gimmick of "Hope they don't ban Moody, and if they do, instantly become worthless garbage"

[desert current]

Cause that would just be "regular Mega Garchomp but better "

[worn cobalt]

Okay, team crafting. I'm thinking Mega Greninja, Mega Excadrill (alpha of course, for size), but what else should I run?

[desert current]

Run Dedenne for the funnies

[jade ocean]

Mega Garchomp is weird

Because it felt like they wanted it to be a slow bulky mixed attacker

[worn cobalt]

Hmmm... Maybe, but I want it to be strong enough to reach for Delphoxite.

[jade ocean]

With like, 40 extra fucking points in SpA

What about Mega Garchomp indicates that it is literally 1.5× better at breathing Fire

And calling down meteors

Well not literally because of EVs

But you get the idea

[jade ocean]

And IVs too actually

[robust wren]

||The fact that we're getting a second Mega Garchomp is hilarious to me. It's basically Gen 4 Charizard at this point. Especially considering we still aren't getting Mega Flygon and the Mega Stone in the DLC Trailer we all thought would be Flygon's actually belongs to Scovillain||

[desert current]

I'm excited for the ||new Mega Lucario||... I really hope it gets Mega Launcher.

[worn cobalt]

My Greninja runs Surf, Water Shuriken, Dark Pulse, and Ice Beam, and my Excadrill is (probably) Swords Dance, Earthquake, Iron Head, and Drill Run.

[jade ocean]

Except both Mega Charizards are like

Actually good

[robust wren]

||Who the heck was clamoring for Mega Scovillain||

[jade ocean]

I'd say it's more so ||Lucario|| filling that role

[desert current]

Did you guys know that Mega Charizard X (the physical attacking one) actually has equal attack and special attack?

[jade ocean]

Yes

[desert current]

Its crazy

It almost feels like they made X first, and then decided to make Y later.

[jade ocean]

But Tough Claws and Mega Zard Y ensure you're only ever using it for Ddance

And it's a damn good Dragon Dancer tbf

[desert current]

Cause like why the heck does Y get 160 sp. atk in harsh sunlight, while poor X only has 130 attack?

[worn cobalt]

You know, I could, just, not bring a third mon and focus on those two.

[robust wren]

Crazy how Fire/Dragon is such an amazing type and there's only ever been one that's seen decent competitive play

[jade ocean]

Better type and a setup move I guess?

Iirc Y is better in Gen 6 and X is better in Gen 7

[robust wren]

||the absolute craziest DLC Mega still has to go to Mega Magearna. Exactly who thought that it needed to be even stronger than it is?||

[jade ocean]

||That and Bax getting Megas is crazy to me||

[worn cobalt]

rn i'm autobenching for an eevee, but that's probably less effective than trying for area 19, but I don't have a convenient way of afking area 19.

[edgy palm]

||To be fair, Bax is kinda mid compared to the others and a Mega would help it since it's speed stat isn't the greatest.||

[worn cobalt]

Still happy I managed a shiny Drampa. Now I just need an Alpha Drampa.

[robust wren]

||FYM Mid? Bax utterly tore up the meta a little while ago, especially with Scale Shot and Icicle Spear making it the best Loaded Dice abuser||

[edgy palm]

||I meant speed-wise||

Don't get me wrong, I like it, but a Mega with a boost in speed would be nice.

Or at least a boost in defense so Scale Shot's effect won't hurt too much

[amber monolith]

||because it needs a form where it’s a master ball||

[edgy palm]

What I wanna know is... ||why Mega Glimmora?||

[desert current]

Why not ||Mega Glimmora?|| Honestly it could be peak.

[edgy palm]

True, but still, it's mostly a trap setter.

Maybe they'll give it more defenses and bulk?

[desert current]

Is anyone here able to help me evolve my shiny Swirlix? (specifically to trade it back afterwards?)

[storm fog]

I'm pretty disappointed that both Mega Raichu are mono electric, but it seems X might get Levitate

[storm fog]

Sure

[desert current]

okay, uhhh... what code should we use?

[storm fog]

1236 7954

[desert current]

thank you!!! :D

[storm fog]

Yep

[indigo mango]

that Zygarde Boss Battle suuuuucked
not cause beating him was pretty hard...just that Zygarde kept cheating
fucking one shot attacks, blocking my return button, teleporting away from my attacks
i only ever died cause of these annoying one shot attacks he did

im sure with the last blackout doll it wouldnt have been as bad but i was missing 7 screws for that and i didnt really wanna go and find those

[desert current]

huh... I thought Zygarde was underwhelmingly easy.

Perhaps I just had higher level pokemon though...

I waited a while before actually going to catch it

[indigo mango]

also didnt have any good mon againt it so i just had to fight with my Krookodile and his dragon moves

[storm fog]

That's probably why it was hard

[worn cobalt]

skill issue. I went in and died like 3 times to it.

[indigo mango]

eh i was 89

but ye only really had krookodile lul

[storm fog]

It's coded as a rogue mega battle, so it takes less damage from non-mega Pokemon

[indigo mango]

and i didnt wanna train up a dragon

nah it took quite alot of damageeven without plus moves

[storm fog]

Even in final form?

[storm bone]

Guys are you ready to get mega raichu a b c d e f g h j k l m no p q r s t I w x y and z now I know my ABCs next time won’t you sing with me

[indigo mango]

like dog and snake where done in under a minute with krook. just Complete kept cheating

[storm fog]

Yeah, that's just kind of how Zygarde is. 10% and 50% forms suck.

[indigo mango]

just annoying how he blocks you off from being able to return your mon to the ball when it does his one shot z attack

cheesed the fight with revives, shell bell and just spamming doge cause it still blocked damage even when i dodged right into an attack

[storm fog]

You mean the attack where it telegraphs super hard by flying outside of the ring and charging up for 10 seconds? You can recall your Pokemon before the attack goes off

Unless you're using an insanely slow move I guess

[indigo mango]

even tho i found it annoying i kionda wished it did have a 4th stage as a mega, just for seeing other people fight it. tho anyone with a good mon against it will have no issue with this battle, so i doubt there will be even close to as much to watch on yt then there was with the Volo Battle

[indigo mango]

nah ya cant

there is a red lock on the return button

only goes away once the attack is done

[storm fog]

I literally watched a video of someone recalling it while the attack is charging up

And the guide literally says to recall your Pokemon into its ball

[indigo mango]

i mean i know i couldnt

there was a red lock

button did not work

sometimes it worked but not everytime

usually only during the tiny earthquake bits you can return

not during hte Z attack, so i just had to always deal with reviving it

[harsh oasis]

If you get hit by lands wrath before hand

You get locked out of switching

[indigo mango]

ah

[harsh oasis]

I think that's just what land's wrath does normally, right?

[wispy kernel]

thousand waves

[indigo mango]

no idea, just sucks since i just had to take the one shot everytime

[wispy kernel]

not lands wrath

[harsh oasis]

Ohhh

Yeah

That one

Ty queen

[harsh oasis]

You could have avoided his attacks

[indigo mango]

i did, i was talking about my mon lul

Krook cant really move away while attacking

and he refused to walk away anyway

[wispy kernel]

evil that the only move in the game that traps you from switching out is in the boss fight where you really want to return your guy when they do the super ultimate nuke that fucking kills you move

[harsh oasis]

Lmao

[worn cobalt]

I wonder how many rando shinies I'll get before I get shiny eevee.

Anyone else feel bad for the people who's front doors became barricaded by the holo tech barriers for wild areas?

[storm fog]

Wild Area 17 is a hellhole

Imagine walking outside an getting ganged up on by an entire pack of lions

But sure, it's about "Living in harmony"

While the lions eat your flesh and gnaw on your bones

[worn cobalt]

The holo barriers trap people in their homes though? So no mauling, but... no getting out of the house either.

[storm fog]

No, the doors still "work" (not in-game)

Plus every building has roof access

Funnily enough, there's actually unique dialogue for the Battle Zone located at a shopping strip, where the inside of the shopping strip is sealed off with no way in. The NPC that's right outside the zone (inside the shopping strip) will lament about how they were just about to leave when the battle zone suddenly popped up and trapped them

It's almost like using hologram technology to suddenly close off entire areas of the city for funsies is a terrible idea

[charred sage]

I think it's even pointed out in-game that it has more flaws than benefits since ||mabel|| isn't too keen on it

[worn cobalt]

Shiny mega drampa looks cool!

Also, shout-out to my totodile sitting cutie.

[tepid moss]

I'm rather fond of my chikorita (plus it matches my starter)

[worn cobalt]

My starter was Totodile, so I was super happy to get that plush.

I managed to get alpha drampa, so now I'm done with drampa excluding the off chance I decide to Shalpha hunt it.

Imma auto bench area 20. See what happens.

Also, I should organize and clean my boxes.

[indigo mango]

any reason to bench

just seems to take longer then just traveling

or i guess the auto implies you can automate bench sitting?

[worn cobalt]

Turbo A and band down on the controller.

Also, benching takes longer, but can affect different mons than fast travel.

[edgy palm]

By all accounts, wouldn't Froslass have the easiest time with Zygarde being 4x weak to that type?

[worn cobalt]

I finally managed to beat it with my Vanilluxe. With four or three ice attacks known.

[lime void]

It has rock slide

[worn cobalt]

I wonder if it is possible to rematch.

[jade ocean]

Zygarde hits like a motherfucker

And has enough bulk to survive through the entirety of a Level 100 Mega Froslass' Mega Time

Even with Ice Beam and Blizzard

Bro is such a bulky bastard

Tbf it is y'know

Zygod

[indigo mango]

yeah but like...i dont have a forstlass on my team?

and im not training up one

im sure i have enough exp candy to get close but i rather use those on mons i wanna use when the dlc drops

[jade ocean]

Still works well for beating the shit out of Zygod, it was like a small number of Ice Beams and Blizzards away from death

[indigo mango]

also maybe i am wrong on this but i thought Zygarde could create Mega Shards or whatever the stones are called via a move? i probably misread soemthing cause that doesnt even seem like something he could do

[jade ocean]

Yeah I'm not entirely sure where you got that

[indigo mango]

yeah makes sense, really dont recall where i saw it. but i was so sure it was real that i was like "i can just farm lots of shards once i have Zygarde"

[jade ocean]

I like that we can refight the Rogue Megas but man I wish ||we could refight Zygarde as well||

I do not need to spoiler text this

But I am anyways

Because uhhh

Uhh

Idk

[wispy kernel]

hey guys fun fact apparently in zone 20 ||you can get two of the same alpha under the tower. source I just saw two alpha alakazam||

[wispy kernel]

Update on this it happened again. Saw ||two Vanilluxe. But also it was alongside a Froslass Altaria and Gengar so not as impressive ||

[hazy knot]

ive seen this plenty of times I use the method where you can have 6 of them under there at the same time so I have a higher chance of finding a shiny when passing by

[wispy kernel]

Yeah I just set it up

though I only have 5 sadly

cuz I fucked it up

https://tenor.com/view/disco-elysium-johnny-law-harry-du-bois-harrier-du-bois-dance-gif-26320841

[hazy knot]

you can still make it 6

[wispy kernel]

idc I’m lazy

5 is good enough

[hazy knot]

I see true

[wispy kernel]

still 3 more than normal

[noble ice]

All the fire and fighting type starters got Mega’s

[edgy palm]

Poor Infernape

[unborn elm]

Needs a regional or mega

[edgy palm]

I can only imagine the havoc it would wreak

[unborn elm]

Ngl man

The Gen 4 starters as a whole need sum

They haven’t gotten jack shit

[lime void]

That’s because they choose to completely ignore Gen 4 during its remake generation to instead give Gen 1 5 billion underserved forms for the second generation in a row 🙄

[edgy palm]

Prior to Megas, Infernape was a solid choice over Blaziken until they decided to give Kung Fu Chicken Speed Boost AND a Mega Evolution...

[unborn elm]

One word

Money💰

[edgy palm]

The darn thing broke the meta when that happened

[lime void]

I highly doubt anyone’s buying Pokémon solely because they keep giving the worst generation of Pokémon undeserved special treatment

[unborn elm]

My pops said he bought X over Y solely because of charizard X

So I meeean

It works?

[charred sage]

can confirm the people that mostly just know pokemon in its 1998-2000 life is a very large and very silent majority rofl

[unborn elm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sent-flying-cat-sent-flying-gif-3754963774673109749

I’m not even done with the main story

[surreal belfry]

Why mess with perfection

[edgy palm]

I mean... my first games were the OG Red and Blue versions, but I like every generation o.O

[unborn elm]

Same

[edgy palm]

However, I do miss the days when we had an ACTUAL villain team

[unborn elm]

True

But I liked team skull and team star ngl

[edgy palm]

Team Plasma with Ghetsis felt like real villains

[surreal belfry]

I didn’t notice but nature mints changed the stats but not the actual nature

[edgy palm]

Yeah... that's kinda how it works

[edgy palm]

Team Star was kinda cool, but they were just misunderstood kids with no evil agenda

[unborn elm]

They would’ve been evil if they threatened to squash people with the starmobiles

Which they totally could

[edgy palm]

Where are the Cyrus, Ghetsis and yes, even Lysandres who want to unalive stuff for the sake of their own selfish ambitions?

||And Yes, Lysandre is back, but I'm not counting has been villains||

[jade ocean]

||Volo seems to be alive and kicking, so maybe he'll be in the DLC||

[edgy palm]

I overlooked Lusamine since she basically went nuts and merged with an Ultra Beast... and released more on all of Alola, so she counts

[edgy palm]

||Okay, that's actually pretty sweet. I guess Cynthia's theme music will still haunt us to this day||

[lime void]

Thing is, her end goal seemed to just be “go to an alternate dimension”

[jade ocean]

||That's 2 of Cynthia's supposed ancestors that have extremely prolonged lifespans btw||

[edgy palm]

True, but she was pretty selfish in that regard and was a horrible mother for that

[lime void]

So I wouldn’t put her on the same level as Cyrus, Ghetsis and Lysandre

[edgy palm]

True

Those three were senile with their ambitions

[jade ocean]

I get that Guzma wasn't very evil either but I mean he still took over an entire fucking town

So like that probably counts for something

[edgy palm]

Yeah, but he ended up helping us

[lime void]

Guzma is evil, but he’s not a very big threat

[edgy palm]

He's not nearly on the same level as the other three

[jade ocean]

Definitely not

Those 3 are probably just the most evil evil team leaders in the series

[edgy palm]

He was just a thug who could battle well

[jade ocean]

Maxie and Archie are kinda just extremely stupid

[jade ocean]

Even ignoring that

How could anyone think flooding the entire earth would be good for all life

Heck how could someone think removing all water from the earth would be good for life either

[unborn elm]

Fr

Maxie and Archie are fucking dumb

[lime void]

He doesn’t want to flood the entire earth, he just wants more ocean

[lime void]

Same but for land

[unborn elm]

In turn flooding the earth

Plus

More land

Means water levels rise

I think

[jade ocean]

I still feel like they're underestimating how destructive to life that would be

[lime void]

Not the ENTIRE earth

[unborn elm]

It’d still flood a shit ton

https://tenor.com/view/dunk-gif-21755298

[lime void]

Because they’re idiots

[jade ocean]

Indeed

I can't tell if their ideas are stupider or if solving a problem that only exists thousands of years into the future is dumber

It's one of those 3

[unborn elm]

Dude istg Z-A has to be the game where I’ve gotten the most shinies before even beating the game

And most of them have just been random as shit

I’ve only actually hunted for 3

I have a skidoo, pidgey, mega excadrill, and carvana

Those were the random ones

[edgy palm]

I have none, because I haven't been looking xD

I made a second file that I will do that on. I'm just enjoying the ride

And I gotta say, they made the most annoying character have a banger of a theme

[indigo mango]

if he gets one its probably him riding on a flame cloud

really lean even more into sun wukong

[robust wren]

To be fair they did realize that. Milliseconds before they were to reap what they had sown

[edgy palm]

Maybe they'll give him a staff

If Chesnaught gets a spear, why not right?

[indigo mango]

i mean Emboar also has a Staff

[edgy palm]

It was pretty stupid... I mean a freaking Electivire could solve the issue...

[jade ocean]

Idk man Electivire's kinda a fraud

But he could have just like

Took a trip to Crown Tundra

[edgy palm]

Its dex entry solves the issue

[jade ocean]

Idk, he's powering an entire region

He's gonna need like 50 thousand million Electivires

[edgy palm]

One Electivire per city o.O

[jade ocean]

One Electivire per city per year

Bro needs to find the one person actually going for Electivire's shiny

And steal all the rejects

[edgy palm]

Even so, there were solutions on hand xD

[jade ocean]

True

But like at least it was an issue I guess

That's more that can be said than whatever the hell Aqua and Magma were doing

[edgy palm]

I had hoped that the person that was going to unleash Eternatus would have something more sinister in mind considering the size of its GMax form...

Also that stat total...

[wispy kernel]

They had noble intentions but god they’re all such dipshits

like sir. Rose. Can you just wait like one day

[edgy palm]

Agreed

[wispy kernel]

your niece is a better villain than you and she’s not even an actual villain

[edgy palm]

Right?

[wispy kernel]

and then Maxie and Archie

god what are they doing

[edgy palm]

Zinnia made a better villain

[wispy kernel]

how stupid does someone need to be to think that reducing water would be beneficial for humanity

or that reducing land would be beneficial for pokemon

[supple fern]

Instead of the Frog, I got the Fellas

[wispy kernel]

I love the fellas

[edgy palm]

You know who would make a pretty scary villain? Jacinthe...

[supple fern]

I believe I only saw screenshots of what she looks like.

Currently at Rank C, BTW

||Guessing she has either the Mega Ice, or Convergent Togekiss||

[edgy palm]

She has a ||Mega Clefairy||

Her theme is awesome too

[odd wind]

Does anyone wanna take a couple extra shinies off my hands? I have too many litleos

[lime void]

What convergent Togekiss?

Also, what do you mean by ||mega ice?||

[supple fern]

||The Snorunt Sinnoh alt||

[supple fern]

||The Mega Clefairy in question||

[wide kraken]

im about to hop online to pvp, has the meta changed at all ?

[edgy palm]

I can't decide what's more embarrassing... dressing as a maid for life after losing or doing emotional exercises every time someone wants to challenge your gym?

[wide kraken]

no lebanne slander

my thicc queen

[edgy palm]

I'm not slandering, I just feel for her because she's hardcore whereas her attire suggests otherwise 🤣

||When she went from prim and proper to full on battle hungry maniac I was taken back||

It was a welcome surprise and made me like her xD

[odd wind]

We stan Lebanne

[edgy palm]

She's so feral and I am here for it

[odd wind]

I like her much more than Jacinthe

I despise that woman

[edgy palm]

As much as I dislike her, she's well designed and her theme is too good

[odd wind]

Her theme is an absolute banger and one of my favs

I will not deny that

[edgy palm]

Right!?

[odd wind]

I was so caught off guard from it

it doesn’t sound like it belongs to a pokemon game

[edgy palm]

I'm like, I wanna hate her but that damn theme

[wide kraken]

oh new season doeesnt start till tomorrow

if you missed greninjas mega stone... rip

[jade ocean]

I find the amount of fucked up Jacinthe is comedic tbh

This bitch is so evil lmao

[edgy palm]

It is

Which is why I kinda like her at the same time

[odd wind]

You can get it in the next season pretty sure

[jade ocean]

If Grimmsnarl was in Z-A she'd probably have one

[edgy palm]

Yup

She's a well done evil bitch

I applaud whoever pitched her character

[jade ocean]

Also crazy fucking theme, definitely up there with my favourites

I do prefer the Rogue Mega themes and ||Zygod's theme||

[edgy palm]

Mirror B. Cynthia and Jacinthe all have fantastic themes

[wide kraken]

that be cool of them to do that

[radiant otter]

the shalpha group continues to grow

[odd wind]

Shiny falinks my beloved

[jade ocean]

I do think that ||Zygod|| is the hardest boss, to be expected from the final boss

[wide kraken]

idk if hes harder than PAL's final challenge

[jade ocean]

That said I do think it was quite a bit easier than Arceus from Legends: Arceus

And definitely easier than Volo

[wide kraken]

but def a top 3 threat in the games

[jade ocean]

Top 1 in ZA for sure

As for the games?

I'd say it competes with the 3rd slot for the noble battles

[edgy palm]

Imagine Cynthia or Volo stepping up to challenge you in ZA

[radiant otter]

i never got how people struggled with volo in PLA

[jade ocean]

Which is a bit weird considering how these aren't quite normal battles

[odd wind]

I suffered through ||Zygarde||
Did not bring the right pokemon

[jade ocean]

But tbh I think the only normal battle that could be considered difficult is like

Volo

[wide kraken]

volo > cynthia

red > cynthia

[edgy palm]

BDSP Cynthia would like a word with you

[jade ocean]

I'd say Volo is harder than BDSP Cynthia, who would be the 2nd hardest normal trainer battle

[wide kraken]

hmm ig bdsp did enhance ai a bit, but i dont recall having too much trouble tbh

[jade ocean]

Base Cynthia, I'm not too sure where I'd rank

Because I don't really struggle much with normal Pokemon battles

[wide kraken]

are we talking about bdsp e4 cynthia or post game battle

[jade ocean]

BDSP Cynthia I definitely found like a tiny bit problematic

[edgy palm]

Perfect IVs and better stats with her team would be crazy

[jade ocean]

But still got through it first try with relative ease

And Volo kinda cooked me a bit with that double Giratina

I was getting grinded by Arceus lmfao

Even the in between battles with it are somewhat tough for being a single opponent battle

Because Legend Plate is

It's an item of all time

That's for sure

[edgy palm]

Also saying Red is better than Cynthia is crazy considering how easy Red was with the right team

[wide kraken]

i recall reds snorlax being problematic idk

it was like lv70+

[jade ocean]

Tbh forget right team, with similar team levels to the bosses in general I feel like Cynthia would be harder

[edgy palm]

Her levels were higher too

[wide kraken]

also ig i fought red when i was younger so maybe biased

[jade ocean]

The Ice Type Issue in Sinnoh is crazy you'd think that the Ice types would have actually good Ice moves

But like

You need a move tutor for Weavile

Mamoswine kinda just doesn't get any good physical moves

[edgy palm]

Heck, Iris had insanely high levels

[jade ocean]

Froslass needs a TM or you risk Blizzard miss

Glaceon learns entirely physical moves... and Blizzard at LEVEL FUCKING 71

Also doesn't this Garchomp get Iron Head in one of these games?

[edgy palm]

Yeah, if you didn't have a good Ice-type or Dragon that was faster than her Garchomp, it would wreck half your team and don't get me started on her Milotic

[jade ocean]

So I sure hope Froslass and Weavile OHKO it

Or they're getting OHKOd

Mamoswine and Glaceon are slower but tbf they're bulky as hell and probably tank 1 Iron Head

Issue: Iron Head has a 30% flinch rate

And unless you used the Ice Beam TM on Glaceon, Glaceon already has a 30% chance to miss

Cynthia being hard because the ice types have no ice moves is not a good thing btw

[edgy palm]

Her Togekiss was an issue

I think one of her tougher battles was in Gen 5

[jade ocean]

Also the move tutor thing is only Platinum

Common DP L

[edgy palm]

But that was because nobody knew she was even there unless they stumbled upon her by accident

[jade ocean]

Doesn't she literally allow you to decline the battle

[edgy palm]

Nope

[jade ocean]

I played B2W2 I'm pretty sure she does

Well whatever the case I came actually prepared for that fight and kinda murdered her entire team in cold blood

[edgy palm]

Like I said, if you knew, you were fine. If you went unprepared, you got slapped xD

I felt a little disappointed in the champion of S&V

[jade ocean]

Geeta's definitely easy before the DLC

Her DLC team though is kinda stacked as hell ngl

[edgy palm]

Most of her team was flammable

One word... Volcarona

[jade ocean]

Volcarona's kinda just the GOAT tbf

Volcarona ❤️

[edgy palm]

Yes, her DLC challenge was what she should have had as the champion

[jade ocean]

Nah, Espathra should've been Spoed Boost Calm Mind Stored Power, not Opportunist

It'd have been so funny

[lime void]

You also get a full heal before Geeta too iirc, which doesn’t happen with any other champion

Well, technically Leon, but there’s no E4 before him

[edgy palm]

We basically fight her at our full strength which made it too easy

Leon was more of a fight

[jade ocean]

Y'all don't heal your teams before the champion battles anyways?

[lime void]

Well, you have to use items normally

[edgy palm]

They basically hand you the win

[jade ocean]

OK but why did they give Geeta mf Dragapult that's crazy

[lime void]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-wynaut-happy-jump-gif-17071241

[edgy palm]

Geeta had Dragapult?

[lime void]

Leon had a crazy level jump

[jade ocean]

But also, for an equally crazy mon, they should've given her Baxcalibur

And maybe make her Avalugg like

[edgy palm]

The E4 before her had Bax

[jade ocean]

A Snow Warning mon with Aurora Veil

[lime void]

I assume that’s in the DLC

[jade ocean]

I'm evil

[jade ocean]

Yup

[edgy palm]

Honestly I would have taken out Gogoat and Avalugg

[jade ocean]

They did take out Gogoat for Chesnaught in the DLC

[edgy palm]

Seriously, her team basically begged us to set it on fire

[jade ocean]

AKA an actually good bulky Grass

[edgy palm]

I meant for the first battle

[jade ocean]

Yeah the first battle is kinda like

Why aren't you leading Glim

Why isn't your ace Kingambit

[edgy palm]

I mean seriously, it was the champion battle

RIGHT?

[jade ocean]

That's my main issue, if they did just that it'd have become like

Unironically terrifying

[edgy palm]

They waited til the DLC to do that

[jade ocean]

You do NOT want to be facing down a 5 Allies Fallen Kingambit

My only complaint with the DLC Kingambit is that it doesn't have Sucker Punch

[edgy palm]

I felt cheated out of a real fight

[jade ocean]

I want to see mfs click Torch Song into it, get a heart attack as it Tera Flyings, and then get a further heart attack when they see "Kingambit used Sucker Punch!"

[jade ocean]

Nemona's the real champion if I'm being fr

Even then her team isn't THAT threatening

Based purely of species, Geeta's scarier

But Geeta is also like

Not even using her mons correctly lmfao

[edgy palm]

Geeta had class and dressed to kill but her team was just... oh look firewood!

[jade ocean]

Literally just Glim Espathra Kingambit is scarier than a majority of champions

I see this shit vs an actual player and I'm pissing my pants

[edgy palm]

If they made her use the strat and switch out properly when it detects a disadvantage... that would have been scary

[jade ocean]

Forget that

Lead Glimmora

Who cares about Gogoat, Avalugg and Veluza

And then Espathra Calm Mind Speed Boost Stored Power gives you a heart attack

[edgy palm]

I don't know why they were there...

[jade ocean]

And then fucking Sucker Punch Kingambit with 5 fallen allies

[edgy palm]

Fodder perhaps

[jade ocean]

Tera Dark, Fairy, Flying, Ghost, Fire, any of those works

And then bam

I'm probably more scared of this than Cynthia

With just 3 real mons and 3 fodder

If Gamefreak locked in with her they could've actually made this team absurdly terrifying

[edgy palm]

If ever there is a champion with only 3 mons... they better be hard af

[jade ocean]

And I'm sure Avalugg could like

Idk

[lime void]

I mean, Cynthia did have the near competitive team in BDSP

[jade ocean]

Be some niche physical wall that murders the 1 physical attacker that doesn't hit it for SE

And Veluza can like

Idk

Click Fillet Away and instantly die

Idk Veluza's arguably the biggest fraud on Geeta's team

[lime void]

There is a champion with only 3 Pokémon: Lance

[jade ocean]

Mainly because I'm a Veluza hater

Why does this mf have a move that cuts into bulk

Yet have like nonexistent bulk

Why is it slow enough to get outsped even at +2 speed

This mon just doesn't make any sense

It's straight up inherently flawed before you even get to its type

[lime void]

Only has Dragonite, Aerodactyl and Gyarados

[edgy palm]

I meant 3 total, not repeats on the same team xD

[jade ocean]

There's also Dragonite 2, Dragonite 3 and Charizard

[lime void]

And he also has an overrated blob I guess

[jade ocean]

Tbf, what else is Lance supposed to use lmao

[edgy palm]

Geeta could have been peak

[jade ocean]

Kingdra's already Clair's ace

[edgy palm]

Instead she was too easy to dethrone

[lime void]

And if you can beat 1 Dragonite, you can beat the other 2. So he effectively only has 3 Pokémon and 1 overrated blob

[jade ocean]

Actually why tf did they make 2 Dragon trainers and 2 Ghost trainers in a generation with 2 Dragon types and 2 Ghost types

[jade ocean]

I mean, only if you're going under the assumption you're instantly OHKOing Dragonite before it can move

If you aren't, each Dragonite will cause serious damage before fainting

[edgy palm]

While everyone has beaten Cynthia, at least when you walked in and that piano started you felt a fight or flight response

[jade ocean]

Now seriously

What is this all about

Tbf Agatha got erased from existence in Gen 2

But still

[lime void]

Alakazam was Sabrina’s ace, Arcanine was Blaine’s ace, and Rhydon was Giovanni’s ace, but that didn’t stop Blue from using them

[jade ocean]

2 Ghost and Dragon specialists in the first 2 gens where these were also the rarest types

Why

[edgy palm]

Karen was by far my favorite E4 member of Gen 2

[jade ocean]

Like at that point in time even Ice was more common

Though it was probably still like 3rd rarest I reckon

Didn't stop them from making 2 fucking Ice trainers LMAO

They should like idk replace Gogoat or something with Ceruledge/Armarouge depending on your game version

They still kinda get smoked by Skeledirge but at least one hits its weaker Defence stat and the other hits it for SE

And they don't just feed Torch Song boosts

[edgy palm]

Meowscarada with Protean says hi

[jade ocean]

Idk a lot of mons get smoked by The Dirge

Kingambit with Sucker Punch wouldn't

... Until Skeledirge uses Will-O

Then we're kinda just cooked ngl

Baxcalibur would be so good here

Can't burn it

Can't Torch Song it

(Unless you want it to get a +1 boost to Attack)

Poses a massive threat

But Hassel has it

Unfortunate

[edgy palm]

If she had the murder kitty...

[jade ocean]

Dirge clicks Torch Song vs Bax while it clicks Dragon Dance and Bax may just sweep from there ngl

Nemona's team is also kinda mid tbf

But some of their movesets are actually kinda real?

I mean, Stealth Rocks on lead Lycanroc

Pretty much just a normal Orthworm apart from lacking Shed Tail

Pretty normal Pawmot too

Dirge looks like a playthrough Dirge

Unironically clever Dudunsparce set, using Coil to offset Dragon Rush's inaccuracy

[edgy palm]

Meowscarada murderizes her team kinda

She was a fun fight though

[jade ocean]

I should get a Volcarona the next time I play SV

I dont care that it's only obtainable like

Before the E4, Arven and Clavel/Penny

I NEED THE MOTH

And I am giving it ALL MY GROUND SHARDS

ahem

Anyways, I'm not too sure who the hardest normal trainer in ZA is

I do feel like generally it did get harder the later in the game I was

Though I felt like Grisham was harder than the final Taunie/Urbain fight

[edgy palm]

My team doesn't have much of a problem with Urbain, but maybe the final fight will be a challenge?

[jade ocean]

Mine didn't have issues with those either

[edgy palm]

Lebanne gave me a harder time

Aggressive feral woman

I find it funny that if you search up Lebanne fanart you are flooded with Jacinthe art 😂

[charred sage]

really late but geeta already has a psychic in the form of the ostrich so yea get a better water type so skeledirge at least has to pause before its +2 shadow ball

then again I know I'm drawing a blank if azumarill is my best guess to slap there

[edgy palm]

Yeah... like I said, her team gets tanked by fire

[charred sage]

which isn't saying much since everything in the game gets horribly chunked by skeledirge rofl

[edgy palm]

And Flower Trick Meowscarada

It always crits

Honestly, all three starters are nice

Let's not forget Moxie Duck

[charred sage]

but yea imo she's fine in the context since she's not even the final boss of her own story (which goes to nemona)

I guess the closest comparason I can think of would be BW N? then again geeta doesn't exactly lead with the game's box legendary and expect you to use your own to KO it

[edgy palm]

Yeah...

[charred sage]

RBY lance might actually count more since at that point there wasn't an expectation of there being more than just the E4

[edgy palm]

Also, Quaquaval has a combo that is basically Dragon Dance with one extra step

[charred sage]

and that step is directly on the opponent's body

[edgy palm]

Aqua Step + Moxie is diabolical

This trio of starters could all give each other a run for it

[desert current]

AI Overview strikes again...

[jade ocean]

This is my favourite Pokemon related goof-up I've seen from Google AI

Especially the Blaziken part

Y'know, quite a few Legendaries could use a Mega Evo

Not even a few

Quite a lot

||Which makes it all the more impressive that they've managed to give ones to 4 of the ones that don't||

[edgy palm]

Imagine having a Mega Arceus...

[jade ocean]

Its ability would just be Protean, except Judgment also has the Legend Plate effect

And it'd be like

AGBL

Or some shit

Heck give it 20 in every stat it don't fucking matter

It's still ending up with 140/140 offences, 140 Speed, 120/140/140 bulk and a broken ability

[edgy palm]

Or an ability like Protean but on steroids where it switches types based on what they are facing

[jade ocean]

Basically the Legend Plate then?

[edgy palm]

But as an ability instead

[jade ocean]

Yeah I already included that

[edgy palm]

Yup xD

[jade ocean]

Protean with Legend Plate as a side

Literally do anything with the stats it'll still be the most broken Pokemon of all time

[edgy palm]

Mega Rayquaza would fear it

[jade ocean]

Somehow I feel like Calyrex would manage to win the MU with Tera

Feels like the sort of bitch that would somehow manage to kill god

I fucking hate Calyrex competitively speaking

It either has Tera and just beats everything

Or doesn't have Tera

And warps even the best Pokemon in the metagame around making sure it doesn't win on team preview

[edgy palm]

Yeah... it's stats suck but when combined with either mount it's a nightmare

[jade ocean]

It's so fucked

This is the most stupid Pokemon of all time ngl

Even arguably without Tera it's so stupid that you need to cripple your Yveltal just so you don't instalose to it

If Yveltal didn't have a literal 90+% usage rate Caly-S would be banned in Gen 8

And in Gen 9 where Yveltal has a literal 0% usage rate on account of not existing

Yeah it'd be banned whether or not Tera is there

But Tera ensures that even if Yveltal was there Calyrex would be instantly banned anyways

[edgy palm]

Eh, it's strong, but depending on what form it's using it can either be broken or a big target

I've just seen something wild and yet I am somehow not surprised 😅

The things people be posting about Emma

[jade ocean]

Alright AZ seems to be consistently listed as 3 meters tall as of ZA

This makes him as tall as Xerneas btw

Notably, he is as tall as Drampa is long

And they're both old as fuck

Well, Drampa looks old as fuck

Close enough really

They're both shorter than Totem-Sized Araquanid though

Reminder that Araquanid's legspan is far greater than its height

Araquanid is massive

Even just normal Araquanid at 1.8 m tall

Anyways, AZ has the same listed height as Xerneas and base Kyurem while being taller than Zamazenta, Zekrom, Zacian, Koraidon, the rider Calyrexes, base Necrozma and all 3 Mewtwos

That is to say, on part in height with box art legendaries and legendaries with similar BSTs

[gaunt mantle]

Anyone have any love balls in ZA they’re not gunna use by chance? 🩷

I’d happily take them off your hands, just name your price.

[opaque osprey]

Found a Shiny Dragalge by chance
Have to say that Shiny Mega Dragalge looks amazing

[robust wren]

Kinda wish the "hair" changed too, but shiny Dragalge was always a great one

[desert current]

Yeah, now that you mention it... That's really weird. The purple on its body turns blue, but the purple on its "hair" doesn't? Super bizarre.

[summer flare]

man these credits get longer and longer i swear

"there is a pokeball containing luc-" nah

[slate loom]

Delphoxite acquired!

[plucky escarp]

Ooh is it time? I should get mine too

[storm bone]

Trailer in 5h

[daring finch]

I might need to buy new switch online

[storm bone]

3h left until trailer

[plucky escarp]

what trailer?

[storm bone]

the dlc trailer

[plucky escarp]

oh fair

premier on YT?

[storm bone]

yes

[plucky escarp]

cool, will find it, thanks!

[storm bone]

yw

[wispy kraken]

Got the new stone already

[lime radish]

Yeah, it was a lower rank to entry to get it this time.

[storm bone]

less the an hiur eft

[empty hinge]

Ref do something bois just one shot a mega charizard

[edgy palm]

Who would surrender first?

[storm bone]

The paldea league

[edgy palm]

You sure about that? Nemona would agree to battling for eternity if it were possible

These two battling would be the equivalent of an immovable object meets an unstoppable force

[storm bone]

I know who would give up it’s the Pokémon

[radiant crater]

Guys where do I get Chandelurite

[opaque osprey]

Buy with Mega shard at Quasartico after beating Ivor during main mission

[storm bone]

December 10 release date

[unborn elm]

Because he’s the GOAT

https://tenor.com/view/dunk-gif-21755298

[tranquil nexus]

Sell all Glaceon stocks now, invest in fire or fighting lol

There are so many steel types in Ranked rn

[storm bone]

megas

[tranquil nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/pawchain-paw-pawswap-crypto-cryptocurrency-gif-859229594265389226

[harsh oasis]

I'm so glad they kept ||Korrina|| as a huge dork

She's great

[tranquil nexus]

Additional proof that someone at Game Freak loves Kingdom Hearts

That is literally ||a KH door on his back|| and I love it

[tranquil nexus]

Wait ||does this mean that the Lucario that AZ leaves us with will have some special significance?||

[harsh oasis]

It might!

I hadn't thought of that!

[storm bone]

Apparently e get a new mega on the 19

[drowsy veldt]

||how does mega baxcalibur have that huge blade on its back without breaking its back?||

[harsh oasis]

Pokemon logic

Or titanium bones

[robust wren]

||Mega Chimecho looks neat and all, but I'm ultimately just disappointed that this means it's not getting a proper evolution and will forever suck once Megas are dropped again||

[storm bone]

Same

[tranquil nexus]

I’m kinda pulling for them to just make Megas a regular part of Pokemon

I hope that they do this

[robust wren]

||Also this means the leaked DLC list is true. RIP Flygon, it's glory was stolen by a jalapeño pepper||

[tranquil nexus]

I really really really hope that they give us more boxes

[harsh oasis]

I doubt they'll go back on Megas being only accessible to non-evolving pokemon

Mostly because Gamefreak actually tries not to retcon things unless they've been "sufficiently" vague about them in the past

And only pokemon who can't evolve further getting to mega evolve was a pretty big point in ZA

[drowsy veldt]

||out of spite for pikachu getting mega evolution, mimikyu can mega evolve now.||

[harsh oasis]

Who knows though, maybe we'll get another timeline

[harsh oasis]

That would be fire

[robust wren]

FFS NOT AGAIN

[tranquil nexus]

Or some other way to normal evolve pokemon that the lore says don’t count to mega stuff

[harsh oasis]

Hmm I guess it could work

[tranquil nexus]

At least you can’t go down in rank if you lose anymore

[harsh oasis]

But the issue is that some pokemon need permanent upgrades right?

[lament glen]

bro just wants all pokemon to be equally strong

[harsh oasis]

And for mega evolution to work they still need to be in the same form as the one that can mega evolve

Or else it doesn't make sense

[tranquil nexus]

If they decide to keep megas as a rotating gimmick, then in a new gen they could introduce some new evo stone

[harsh oasis]

bro just doesn't want ||chimecho|| to go back to being worse after it got a cool thing because megas are a gimmick

[tranquil nexus]

Then in another mega game “oh that stone doesn’t count”

[lament glen]

I like using weak mons

some mons should have lower stats

||chimecho|| being a strong as it is is a feature to me, not a bug

[harsh oasis]

That's not what were saying, or at least, not what I'm saying

Some pokemon need to be bad, yes

But it would be nice if the ones that get to enjoy the spotlight and get a little better got to keep that

[lament glen]

||chimecho|| is perfect as it is anyway, so a temporary dlc form that ensures it will never get an actual evo is the best possible outcome to me

[harsh oasis]

But that particular pokemon will never actually get better permanently now because it has a mega

[daring finch]

DId I see ||GOLURK!?||

[tranquil nexus]

Btw everyone check for mystery gifts

[daring finch]

I dont have switch online rn

I am sad

[robust wren]

Apparently there will be more DLC stuff revealed in 2 weeks

||Has anyone tied Mega Bax's design to any particular Godzilla design?||

[fickle birch]

||Mega Chimecho|| is genuinely oner of my favourite Mega designs. I love the nods to ||Chingling|| as well, and it gives us IF people more tools to play with now that its palette is expanded. 😄

[opaque osprey]

|| The Pokémon Level in the DLC is insane! The max level would most likely be Lvl 200 ||

[robust wren]

||Wonder how many damage calculators are rushing to reevaluate the damage calcs to account for a new level cap||

||with how Pokemon handles stats, I'm extremely confident that a higher level cap would definitely change some interactions in any format where it exists||

[tranquil nexus]

Pretty sure you can get mystery gifts without NSO

[plucky escarp]

shouldnt be a big deal for calcs

the main different is EVs are worth less

it will likely effect which mons see more play, but the math doesnt change

[tranquil nexus]

||damage calculators aren’t even doing accurate regular ZA calcs yet, as damage (or move power? Idr exactly) is only 70% in this game. Gonna be a minute.||

[robust wren]

||Mega Chimecho's description on the website leads me to believe that when/if it's in a game with abilities, it will get a thematically renamed version of Punk Rock||

[plucky escarp]

didnt actually know that, interesting

[daring finch]

Oh youre right, thank the gods

Ah this gotta be peak pokemon

"Meet the conditions to unlock the side mission" And then not saying what the conditions are

[storm bone]

In the description they do I think

[daring finch]

what description

The mystery gift just says to meet the conditions

[storm bone]

Oh in game you mean ?

[daring finch]

yeah