#pokemon-winds-waves

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jade ocean
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I feel like a very safe estimate for Zygarde is city level, ||based directly on this||

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||Stopping a city destroying attack with your own? Yup, city level||

orchid shadow
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i think it was more than a city destroying attack

jade ocean
orchid shadow
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i think it's more on the scale of glassing the entire city

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like

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dust

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nothing left kind of destroy

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cause when i think of people saying "city destroyer" what pops in my head usually is like... a nuke, which still leaves buildings

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but hard to say tbh

tawdry flame
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I'm so close to 1000 battles

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942/1000 happo

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roughly 2 more in-game nights if I keep on clearing around 40 battles

orchid shadow
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actually

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i hate raichu Y

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why does it have 4 ears

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anyways

desert current
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Its a little frustrating that the game doesn't have any value to tell you how fast a move STARTS. There's no info online about it either, because basically the only way is to test out every move (usually weaker moves are faster, but then you have moves like Brick Break which have decent power but start quickly. Cutting moves like Night Slash also usually start quick, but then Shadow Claw and Psycho Cut aren't as fast despite being in the same category, its super unintuitive and inconsistent).

And the speed stat doesn't even seem to effect the speed of moves starting, it only effects cooldowns.

I'm trying to figure out decent moves to make Aegislash actually do well. I have Aerial Ace, Brick Break, Shadow Sneak, and Protect (because King's Shield is a death sentence in this game), but even though its fast enough to land hits before it dies, it doesn't quite have the power. Shadow Sneak is the only STAB move it has, but it has low base power... I tried Shadow Claw but its just a little too slow to execute to be worth it. Iron Head is literally its only damaging physical steel move, but that's even slower than Shadow Claw.

If only I had an extra move slot for Swords Dance. 😕

orchid shadow
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it also doesnt tell you that certain moves start instantly and have a wind up

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so their cooldown is misleading

tranquil nexus
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What was gamefreak thinking when it made a requirement for the shiny charm “win 1000 battles”

robust wren
tranquil nexus
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Nintendo boosting sale of third party accessories as everyone gets a turbo controller

harsh oasis
noble ice
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Do you need to complete all of the challenges in order to get the shiny charm?

harsh oasis
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Most of them

noble ice
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Cause I’m wondering if I could get the shiny charm before I beat the game

harsh oasis
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You need to do the 1000 battles

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But it has 1900 more points than you need

noble ice
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Pokémon Megas that should’ve been a bit better part 3.

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I actually don’t hate this mega I think it’s the best one out of the three starters, but I can see why people are saying that it looks like a toilet seat.

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Mega Feraligatr

harsh oasis
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I would like it if it defaulted to closed

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As is idk how you like it more than emboar 0-0

noble ice
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It’s not bad of a mega. I love it that it’s a giant Totodile.

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But I hate that you can only see this when he’s attacking. I wish it was just a default for when it comes out.

harsh oasis
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Yes

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Or like, hanging slightly open

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Anything other than all the way back

noble ice
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I do like this fan made Mega Feraligatr though.

robust wren
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Speaking of freakish heads, LEAK INFO WARNING ||how many people here have seen the Pikachu redesign for Gen 10? And how many actually like it?||

desert current
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||Pikachu was already a marketable plushie, but they really went and said "MORE."||

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||The plushie sorta looking design only works in 2d, it looks freakish and alien in 3D if you ask me.||

robust wren
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||it's just a pair of dead eyes away from being a funkopop||

desert current
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||something about that side view just looks uncanny.||

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||Also why'd they make the tail so thick? That's weird.||

robust wren
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||didn't even notice the tail but you're right. It looks like a slab of cardboard||

unborn elm
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Finally found my caca colored bug

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Fed a shit ton of candies and already got scolipede

harsh oasis
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Okay, I'm gonna post this as a txt and hopefully it will format correctly

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Yay!

tranquil nexus
indigo mango
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so much smaller

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but looks alot more accurate

harsh oasis
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Lol

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Yeah not bug horse sized

tranquil nexus
harsh oasis
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🤮

tranquil nexus
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At this point GF is capable of doing anything except properly funding their dev team

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They could have such sights to show us

woeful flume
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GF: "how can we mess up this game?"

tranquil nexus
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Pictured- head of development

tawdry flame
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I finally got the shiny charm Painless

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And I immediately got 2 shines to show up

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Vanillite and hippo

harsh oasis
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Nice!

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That do be the shiny charm in this game

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Infinite shinies

noble ice
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Is there a TM for dragon pulse

woeful flume
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tbf pokemon bdsp wasnt made by GF

tranquil nexus
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True, but it had to have been signed off on somewhere up the chain

harsh oasis
harsh oasis
# woeful flume tbf pokemon bdsp wasnt made by GF

Here's the thing about that though. It's technically true, and GF devs shouldn't be blamed for BDSP (I mean they shouldn't be blamed ever but yk), maybe even some of the management could escape culpability. But someone had the bright idea to outsource it. They could have made it in house, they have the money for it, but they didn't

tranquil nexus
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And even then, outsourcing isn’t necessarily bad on its own. GF obviously didn’t really do much oversight, and/or gave the other devs crappy directions or requirements, or just chose the wrong group. If it was out sourced and was good, nobody could gaf

harsh oasis
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True!

noble ice
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This is my team so far. If you guys have any recommends of any moves, I should change. Let me know.

tranquil nexus
# noble ice

Emboar has access to Rollout. I’ve found it very useful very often

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Also thunder punch

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Power up punch kinda sucks compared to a stronger move, with how fast the game goes

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And I found flame crash to be extremely unreliable as recoil damage really stings in this game

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Wait why are you running fire blast?

harsh oasis
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You can get your tm moves turned into plus moves at the dojo

noble ice
tranquil nexus
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This team is for ranked, right?

harsh oasis
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Can't be

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Ranked is 3

tranquil nexus
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Like, to make teams from

uncut vigil
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ran out of ultra balls 😭

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i tried to reset but the auto save didn’t let me

noble ice
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I was thinking about changing fire blast back for flame thrower

tranquil nexus
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Even with STAB, wouldn’t a physical move be a generally better thing to run

uncut vigil
harsh oasis
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2/3 of your team dies to an alakazam ;-;

noble ice
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It’s good to mix some physical moves with some range moves

tranquil nexus
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Thankfully alakazam dies to a stiff physical breeze

harsh oasis
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true and fair

tranquil nexus
uncut vigil
tranquil nexus
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Yeah it sends him in, but then he’s in range for other physical moves

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(Same with rollout)

harsh oasis
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you have 2 poison types

uncut vigil
indigo mango
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my Emboar has Flamewheel and Rollout..so i can attack infinitely. rolls from ocne side and then i roll again from the other site, rogue megas stand no chance

uncut vigil
harsh oasis
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Oh wait

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shit

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sorry lmao

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Mistook you for the other guy

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Yeah that would getcha

noble ice
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Should I swap out power-Up Punch for Close Combat

uncut vigil
harsh oasis
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Uhhh

tranquil nexus
harsh oasis
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Scolipede

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Kills every gardevoir in sight

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Just watch for mystical fire

tranquil nexus
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The defense drop from close combat can be brutal

uncut vigil
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or only in area 20

harsh oasis
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Garde specifically? yeah only area 20

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Ralts can be found in some places

noble ice
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I’m wondering if I wanna swap back Aerial Ace for waterfall for my Greninja

indigo mango
uncut vigil
tranquil nexus
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If it doesn’t, for some reason, you get killed lol

harsh oasis
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Brick break is pretty goated

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I ran it on my raichu for coverage

tranquil nexus
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If you’re grinding through rapid infinite ZA fights or something, the drops from CC can make you very brittle.

harsh oasis
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I don't think dragonite can learn close combat Quagless

indigo mango
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not to mention a battle in za royal pauses time, so you could take forever in a fight it wont change how much you can do that night

tranquil nexus
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Well, to each their own. I found CC to be extremely annoying

noble ice
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I’m also questioning about Venusaur moves

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I feel like I should swap one of them out for something else

tranquil nexus
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Plus move solarbeam is great. Giga drain is pretty nice.

harsh oasis
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EQ is op, even without stab, keep that

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Idk if you need solar beam for most things

tranquil nexus
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I run toxic on mine, but mostly for the alphas in zone 20

orchid shadow
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man

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i really cannot wait for mega raichu

noble ice
tranquil nexus
orchid shadow
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tied with articuno

harsh oasis
orchid shadow
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dont care

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100+ bst go brrr

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I love the X design

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also helps that red is among my favorite colors

harsh oasis
orchid shadow
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it doesnt

noble ice
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Is it bad that we have to wait for this DLC until February

tranquil nexus
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If you click plus and then solar beam, it fires pretty quick

orchid shadow
harsh oasis
orchid shadow
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i liked Y until i realize it had 4 ears

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and the blue eyes give me this weird feeling of someone that fused with a pikachu/raichu

noble ice
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Still, February. You guys had this advertise before the actual game came out.

orchid shadow
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I don't see the problem

harsh oasis
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Yeah idk what you mean

orchid shadow
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iv had to deal with games that advertise a season pass and it took 6 months after the game's launch to get the first part of it

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despite the season pass being announced before the game officially came out

noble ice
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This better be a good DLC of the Second Half of the game if we are waiting this long

orchid shadow
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season pass 1 took 2 years to complete for that game btw

harsh oasis
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I think it's dumb that they advertized it before the game was even out, but it's better than having paid dlc day one

orchid shadow
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the only day one dlc part of it is honestly garbage ass outfits lol

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i just really hope that X is the physical attacker

harsh oasis
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Yeah, that's what I mean

orchid shadow
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I want that volt tackle to nuke everything

noble ice
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Well, since the DLC they are showing that Hoopa is going to be in it.

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I hope they plan on giving him a mega

orchid shadow
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prob does

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im hoping it'll be other areas of kalos

harsh oasis
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I doubt it

orchid shadow
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i dont think it can go through time with it's hoops

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tho

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it's "mega dimensions" so

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who knows.

harsh oasis
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If they had something like that I think they would have shown it off

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All weve seen is a hoop in the city

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So I assume we'll just be going to little sectioned off areas

orchid shadow
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and this

harsh oasis
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Yeah

orchid shadow
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unless you meant that

harsh oasis
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That is what I mean

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I guess it's not a hoop

noble ice
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I really am hoping we’ll be seeing more of Kalos

orchid shadow
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oh wait

harsh oasis
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I hope so too but like

orchid shadow
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no

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i had an idea

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on what it is

harsh oasis
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They totally would have had that in trailers

orchid shadow
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alternate dimensions of what if Xerneas and Yveltal were properly released

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hence the X and Y Raichus

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cause obv in X&Y we stop them from being properly released

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and its directly mentioned that in ZA they studied both of them (cause they dont want to canonize either game specifically)

harsh oasis
noble ice
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I mean, hey they said that some Pokémon that already have a mega is getting a second one

orchid shadow
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it was never required to catch them in the games

harsh oasis
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Uhhh

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Was it not?

orchid shadow
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no

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it was just the best thing to use a master ball on

harsh oasis
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No

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You definitely do

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If you kill it it refights you

orchid shadow
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does it really?

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hm

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well it's also possible callum/serena just said "lmao" and released it.

harsh oasis
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Lol

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I guess

orchid shadow
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after their role was done

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also something weird iv noticed in the games

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they cant pick between if legendaries are one of a kind or not

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i know mythicals are like, stated specifically to be

harsh oasis
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They cleverly designed Hoopa and ultra wormholes to cover their asses for that lol

noble ice
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Well, I’m gonna have PTSD from Scarlet and Violet of me trying to get a Shiny male Pyroar/Litleo.

orchid shadow
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that's also a thing yeah

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hoopa is the plot device ex machina

sturdy flower
harsh oasis
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Oh ew

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It looks so freakish

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They stole its soul

orchid shadow
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i like it

sturdy flower
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it will definitely look better in game

orchid shadow
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i think it's fine that each region's pikachus look different.

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alolan raichus are fat as fuck

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kantonian pikachus are chubby forest dwellers

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etc

harsh oasis
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I guess we shouldn't be surprised this is where they're taking the design considering this is what pikachu looked like on the LGP box

orchid shadow
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itll look a lot better with shading

unborn elm
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Soooo after I found shiny venipede I decided to check the other areas and found a shiny carvana and drilbur

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Cool

sturdy flower
sturdy flower
noble ice
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Dang

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Thank any way

sturdy flower
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no problem

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if i get a male i'll try to remember to tell you

noble ice
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👍

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Should I swap Air Slash for a fighting type move for my Hawlucha

woeful flume
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Got my favorite shiny oat

noble ice
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Sending a picture of my box of extra shiny Pokémon, just in case if anyone wants to trade.

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Also, sorry it’s a bit blurry

sturdy flower
noble ice
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Well, I don’t really want to release so I just wanted today get rid of them

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I don’t care if I get anything out of it or not

sturdy flower
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I'll take all i can get then

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especially magikarp

noble ice
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You can literally give me a normal weedle and I wouldn’t care

sturdy flower
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do you wanna save some for other people or can i get them all lol

noble ice
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Take whatever you want, man

marble crater
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are you in post game

noble ice
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I’m in wild zone 14

marble crater
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i was gonna ask if you be willing to trade the other two starters but after looking it up theyd be way out of my league

noble ice
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Yeah, I still got a while before I get to the areas of the other starters

sturdy flower
noble ice
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Actually, I’m pretty sure if I get to the next race I can shiny hunt for Froakie

sturdy flower
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@noble ice i sent the code btw

noble ice
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What where

sturdy flower
noble ice
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Oh never mind I just saw it

marble crater
unborn elm
sturdy flower
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you can literally evolve them into their final stage as soon as you catch them

unborn elm
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Can’t wait to get mega scolipede

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Might use the shiny drilbur I had found like 10 minutes after venipede

marble crater
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it sucks i usually use all three but since Nintendo in there infinite wisdom decided not to have za be home compatible day 1 i cant

unborn elm
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Ngl man

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It’s really hard to find a team that I really wanna use

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Like my whole team is new pkm other then the middle evo for greninja I forgor the name

unborn elm
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Oh yea

harsh oasis
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so I don't expect much

solemn oak
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This has to be one of my all time favorite phases

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He’s so cute

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Also not to mention perfect ball

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And of course

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Perfection

sturdy flower
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congrats

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how long did that take you

solemn oak
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And I love her

sturdy flower
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so how many hours roughly

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idk your time zone lol

solemn oak
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Oh yeah

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Ummmmm

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13 hours

sturdy flower
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christ

solemn oak
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Yeah

sturdy flower
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no charm i assume

solemn oak
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I’ve been kinda afk kinda not afk

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It was with charm

sturdy flower
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do you happen to have some dupes from it

solemn oak
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Yeah why

sturdy flower
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are you willing to trade any

solemn oak
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I was specifically shiny hunting alpha so that added a little time

solemn oak
sturdy flower
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OH IT'S ALPHA

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i didn't even realize

solemn oak
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Yeah

sturdy flower
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I really wanna hunt for fennekin but I don't have the charm

solemn oak
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I’m very excited for the mega delphox

sturdy flower
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and i dread getting it

solemn oak
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I might be able to give some tips

sturdy flower
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so much

solemn oak
sturdy flower
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still level 36

solemn oak
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DAMN

sturdy flower
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yeah

solemn oak
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By the time I finished I was 40

sturdy flower
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i was at 23 this morning

solemn oak
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holy shit

sturdy flower
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and i had already finished the game

solemn oak
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I’m weird I guess

summer flare
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god my noibat was so quick to get

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went into the sewers and went in and out of the old entry area to get 6 encounters(5 spawn, one respawns if you go to the dead end)

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less than 100 total encounters, ended up finding him when i went further back and heard the sparkle, almost thought I had a skrelp

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looked up and bam, hanging off the roof

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sewers have been weirdly kind to me, I found an Inkay while clearing shards

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but my noivern replaced my talonflame, finally

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ampharos probably isn't making the final cut, i have better and more interesting mega users, noivern is a dragon naturally, and garde's 4th move is specifically for extra coverage(shadow ball/tbolt)

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i don't really have screens in my playstyle, and as fun as hazards are, electroweb is a hassle to use

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so unfortunately, my final area 1 pokemon is leaving the team soon 😔

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I'm glad i'm not leaning on garde as much anymore, Scolipede is just as much a win button, if not moreso on the physical side

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I guess I could go full bug/poison but that seems like more of a new profile challenge thing, considering how early you get beedril

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tho venusaur taking literal forever to get mega would be a little problem

sturdy flower
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towards the very end

summer flare
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I am very aware

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i also did not ask, but please imagine that with a very neutral and not mean tone

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sometimes people like to figure these things out on their own

woeful carbon
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My outfit so dogshit bruh

summer flare
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the game is new enough that i had that luxury, so pls be aware of spoilers for what is bought vs fought

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also yeah lmao brokie

woeful carbon
summer flare
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male options are nonexistent yeah

woeful carbon
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The only store I haven’t checked is the exclusive one that idfk how to get inside

woeful carbon
summer flare
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it just has like suit and tie blazers n shit

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i gave up on masc very early

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bright and toxic, like my tutti frutti

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also lowk match

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need more red or pink tho

dawn nebula
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I've jury rigged the dumbest fake turbo controller possible
I found an APK for using your phone as a joycon controller, I have it set to the right controller, used bluetooth to connect it to the switch
now I'm using an autoclicker app to spam the A button, while my irl left joycon has the down button taped down
the result being my character in ZA turns around and uses the bench to switch between day/night over and over
AFK shiny hunting baybee

storm fog
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One thing I noticed is that Blastoise fires two shots from both cannons when you use Hydro Pump

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It seems quite a few Pokemon have unique animations for certain moves

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Another example is that Mega Excadrill turns into a drill when using Drill Run

hazy knot
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i noticed that one too since i use it a lot

woeful carbon
hazy knot
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neat detail

storm fog
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Also, Pokemon no longer have specifically a default animation for all physical moves, since punching moves have a separate punching animation

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Mega Feraligatr also (obviously) uses its bigger jaw when using biting moves

woeful carbon
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Fire blast in this game kinda dope

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It’s always dope in every game but it’s like an aoe explosion now as well

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And it can’t miss

storm fog
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And then Future Sight sucks ass

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Zen Headbutt is also bad somehow. They gave it horrible startup lag

woeful carbon
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Parting shot is a pseudo protect now which is funny

storm fog
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And somehow Bulldoze outperforms Earthquake

woeful carbon
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BRO I WENT TO SLEEP WOKE UP AND NOW WERE IN DEBT TO THE MAFIA?

dawn nebula
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why the hell did Taunie need 100k bro

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what kinda video are you making

woeful carbon
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Broke ass mf

dawn nebula
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well do you make 1 million that grows by a million each night

woeful carbon
dawn nebula
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its time for ya to do some odd jobs if you catch my meanin

dawn nebula
dawn nebula
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okay so in this mission, you're going to enter a house at some point that has 2 gengar in it

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this is the only time you can get a gengar before the post-game without trading

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so save before then, if you want a gengar

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@woeful carbon

woeful carbon
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they got rid of linking cord?

dawn nebula
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yeah

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save before entering the house

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that way you can try and control for like, idk, gender

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caught one but missed the other sadly

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that was okay, I really only wanted 1 at least

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gave him a mint bc nature wasn't great

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surprised you can just buy mints before the postgame

wispy kernel
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theres one spot that actually gets destroyed like pretty early on into the game which I think is funny

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and those mints start being sold elsewhere after that

dawn nebula
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the adamant and modest mints are sold in this one lil grassy area

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and that's kinda all I needed

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my team rn is emboar, shiny gyarados that I somehow got, gardevoir, excadrill, gengar, and tyrantrum

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just classics that I like, I kinda want to mix it up a little, but the other pokemon available don't totally appeal to me

wispy kernel
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My team for the game was Feraligatr, Charizard, Heracross, Hawlucha, Ampharos and Absol

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shoutout Bois the Heracross

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goat

dawn nebula
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I'd be down to drop Gyarados for something but

dawn nebula
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the thing is, my other team members cover waeknesses pretty well, so I'd like a water type to replace it

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maybe blastoise just for the mixup

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but I'd feel bad not using my shiny gyarados 🙁

dawn nebula
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wish toxapex was in this game

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I'd use heracross but emboar is already covering my fighting type needs

wispy kernel
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this game made me love heracross so much ngl

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actually carried me

dawn nebula
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Shiny Gardevoir is my way of trying to mix things up

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I normally get a gardevoir when I can, it's one of my faves

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but I feel kinda bad staring at my team and seeing the same colors as every other game

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like, yeah, look, its gardevoir. Again.

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I wanna mix it up a bit

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metagross is cool, but eh

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Absol put in work though, ngl

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really hard carried in some fights

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its just a shame that it overexposed my team to fighting types

wispy kernel
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My team is like omega weak to dragon and fairy ngl

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I’ve replaced absol with chandelure just to have something against those dastardly fairies

dawn nebula
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chandelure is sick

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I love its mega

worn cobalt
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Still shiny hunting amaura.

dawn nebula
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I actually did find a shiny ralts but it was male

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and found a shiny shuppet by accident

wispy kernel
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I need to get back to shiny hunting tyrunt

dawn nebula
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kidna reminds me of fossil fighter variants

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that's a cool shiny

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dark blue dinosaur

storm fog
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I DISCOVERED SOMETHING. MEGA MEGANIUM USES SOLAR BEAM FASTER THAN NORMAL.

woeful carbon
wispy kernel
storm fog
storm fog
wispy kernel
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I know that Ash Greninja worked kinda similarly

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also I do wanna say

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apparently Water Shuriken behaves like that when it’s used as a plus move, not just when its mega greninja

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and I just checked and Solar Beam is the same

storm fog
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Yeah just checked after you said that

wispy kernel
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it’s not just when it’s Mega Meganium, it’s just when it’s a plus move in general

storm fog
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Even so, I do think it ties to the dex entry

wispy kernel
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I wonder how many other moves change this much when they’re plus moves

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True

dawn nebula
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I've been liking tyrantrum because dragon claw seems to have a really short animation

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comes out before a lot of other moves

noble ice
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NO WAY!!!!!!

desert current
lavish oyster
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will ask again as i'm working onthe living dex now(regular and Alpha) hope so meone is willing to trade some back and fortha nd as i also need Mable research for trade evo's ope someone is willing to trade trade evo's back and forth

plucky escarp
#

I found a thing Venopog

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Shame it's not super good without abilities, nice find though

lavish oyster
#

I need these evolved fir living noth dexes (not to be mistaken for just the Pokedex I wanted help with earlier). So if anyone can, thank you in advance. I hope you will also trade trade evolutions back and forth, or better yet, the same non-legendary Pokémon.

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i also hope it woudl satisfy Mable on my side with link trade evoltions asshe calsl them

tranquil nexus
#

There are some community link codes for trade evo’ing specific pokemon

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It’s basically just 0 and then the regional dex number of the base pokemon

lavish oyster
#

will try thx

woeful flume
#

i just found out that my controller's extra button can be used as a macro

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now i can bench reset with one button

harsh oasis
#

Damn

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I wish I had that power

willow kelp
#

I think I just got 4 shiny spinaraks in 15 min trying to get the shalpha gastly

harsh oasis
woeful flume
woeful flume
grizzled sierra
#

i heard the shiny noise and my axniety skyrocketed cause i couldnt find it and this lil guy was just staring at me in the water 😂

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Just watchin me run around like an idiot lol

tranquil nexus
#

Best shiny in the series

woeful carbon
#

man what do you mean PERSONALLY DONATED

jade ocean
#

Does this mean Cynthia's also like

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A very slow ager

woeful carbon
#

also doesnt this mean we probably have volo still walking around

woeful carbon
sturdy flower
#

probably not

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if it's set in another dimension

woeful carbon
#

He gathers all the mega stones and starts the rapture

jade ocean
#

Bro's gonna bust out the full Team of 6 + Hoopa Confined with an Omniboost that turns into Hoopa Unbound that still had an omniboost

tranquil nexus
#

Gonna try to mega evolve arceus lol

jade ocean
woeful carbon
jade ocean
#

Psychic catching the strays for 0 reasons as always

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Why does Gamefreak love

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To make Psychic bad

harsh oasis
#

Trauma from gen 1 psychic

jade ocean
#

They saw it be good for 1 generation and decided "yeah no this type is too strong so we should make it bottom 5"

woeful carbon
#

Invented two types in the second game just the screw over psychic more

jade ocean
#

Removing Pursuit both helped and harmed Psychic

#

On one hand, Ttar is no longer gonna trap yo ass

woeful flume
jade ocean
#

On the other, Ghost type is basically Psychic type but better

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And is also good vs Psychic

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And also benefits from not being trapped by Ttar

#

Like there's no situation where I'd say Psychic is one of the types I want on a Pokemon

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This doesn't apply to any other type in the game

#

Every other type has at least 1 scenario where it's genuinely absolutely great

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I guess Psychic has like

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Expanding Force

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Or something idk

harsh oasis
tranquil nexus
jade ocean
tranquil nexus
#

Better flying steel, and trade that nve grass for getting rid of the 2x fire

jade ocean
#

And I do think the former is slightly better

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But Steel/Bug's still very high up there

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Psychic's best pairing is also its Steel imo

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But that one's certainly worse than Bug's pairing with Steel imo

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Bug does have lower lows cough cough Grass/Bug

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But that doesn't mean Psychic gets off easy

tranquil nexus
jade ocean
#

Psychic/Dark is infamously shit

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And Psychic/Ghost is basically just Ghost but worse

harsh oasis
jade ocean
tranquil nexus
#

Ngl I kinda like psychic. Really makes sense to have a kinda bad type that isn’t terrible on its own. Especially to give to legendaries

woeful carbon
harsh oasis
#

Okay?

jade ocean
harsh oasis
#

Most mons are at least a little viable if you build around them

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Durant still sucks lmao

woeful carbon
jade ocean
#

We all run Choice Band Hustle around here

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Simply land your Iron Heads

wispy kernel
#

carried me through the battle maison

jade ocean
#

Neat

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I'm more so referring to PVP though

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In PVE like idk just use anything

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Ig except battle facilities tbf

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Even then I don't think NPCs will play like actual players there

worn cobalt
#

Statistically speaking, with how long I've shiny hunted amaura, I either have missed seeing it and reset the game (possibly multiple times), or I am incredibly unlucky.

woeful carbon
jade ocean
wispy kernel
#

idk about singles

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never played em

jade ocean
#

I'm a Singles player I only talk Singles

woeful carbon
jade ocean
#

If so that's very funny

jade ocean
woeful carbon
#

It cripples zacian

jade ocean
#

Ah, I see

wispy kernel
#

it cripples pretty much everything

woeful carbon
#

Its success was tied to it being a counter pick

jade ocean
#

2 teams use Gothitelle

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Which means you can't swap out after you got crippled

woeful carbon
#

Yep

jade ocean
#

You're stuck using 1 move per 2 turns

#

That's one of the biggest weaknesses with this strategy in Singles

harsh oasis
# woeful carbon

Oh wow, I forgot about that! I do remember seeing it in team sheets tho. Good times

worn cobalt
#

I just want shiny amaura! Despair

jade ocean
woeful flume
#

ive gotten 2 shalpha loppunys today bench reseting for fenniken

worn cobalt
# jade ocean How unlucky have you been so far

Probably put in at least 8 or more hours of shiny hunting it actively. Maybe more, since I do at least an hour or two each night, plus a night or two I did 4+ hours, so yeah, real unlucky.

harsh oasis
#

How many checks do you get per hour?

woeful carbon
#

Also Durant almost won internationals during Sword and Shield using this set

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It got 2nd place

worn cobalt
#

Well, I was getting 20 checks per about 6 minutes, now I'm doing 30 checks per... more than 6 minutes...

jade ocean
#

Tore RU to shreds

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For reference, that's above Metagross

harsh oasis
jade ocean
#

That is to say, Durant's kinda a menace in Singles

#

It's RUBL alongside the likes of Necrozma, Haxorus and... Diggersby

#

Huge Power is such a crazy ability lmao

woeful carbon
jade ocean
woeful carbon
harsh oasis
#

I kind of wish Durant was in za

jade ocean
#

What are other competitively slandered Pokemon that are actually crazy?

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Uhhh

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Hmmm

harsh oasis
jade ocean
#

I dunno lol I don't know what the public reception of Pokemon viability is

#

I do want to note that I think both Slush Rush and Snow Cloak are banned in Gen 8 NU

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Because Alolan Sandshrew is NUBL

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This isn't even the first time this has happened to the Sandshrew line btw

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Happened with Sand Veil and Sand Rush too

woeful carbon
#

at least in vgc

jade ocean
#

That said in VGC yeah I'd imagine being able to disable Slow Start in multiple ways helps

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There's Neutralising Gas ofc

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But can it be overwritten by Entrainment or similar moves?

#

I'm not actually sure

woeful carbon
jade ocean
#

Like uhh

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Wide Guard maybe?

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Regigigas feels like a Wide Guard type of guy

woeful carbon
#

It’s immune to the most common calyrex shadow set in vgc, gets wideguard knock off thunder wave icy wind

jade ocean
#

Just has that vibe y'know

woeful carbon
#

Bulky support pokemon that if you can’t get rid of quick enough eventually turns into a sweeper

jade ocean
#

The best move between Singles and VGC

#

Protect and Fake Out are nowhere near as prevelant in Singles, same can be said for Hazards in Doubles

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Knock Off's just cracked in both

#

It'd be funny if you could Knock Off Mega Stones

woeful carbon
#

Knock off arceus plates

jade ocean
#

They just accidentally turn you into Normal Ekiller and fucking die

#

Frfr

woeful carbon
#

Sabeleye also had a very small bit of success because it has quash and prankster

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Also just a great supportive movepool

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Also at the start of SV VGC Murkrow was meta because it was a prankster tailwind setter and literally the only one at that time

jade ocean
#

Sableye is proof that you can have a good type, good movepool and good ability

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Yet still be lacking

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Because you ain't got no stats

woeful carbon
jade ocean
#

Not to mention it didn't have Prankster

#

Since I don't think that's even a Gen 3 Ability

#

So they made a horrid Pokemon and then went "Oh shit mb"

woeful carbon
jade ocean
#

Mainly because that implies Mega Sableye now has 100 more BST

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And I don't like that thought

#

Base Sableye with that stat spread already sounds kinda terrifying

woeful carbon
#

Sableye was already not doing much with 50 SPD and putting it at 20 means it’s basically the slowest thing in trick room

jade ocean
#

What a heartbreaking nerf

woeful carbon
woeful carbon
jade ocean
woeful carbon
#

So it wouldn’t be a mega pokemon

jade ocean
#

True

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Honestly the stats aren't as annoying as I thought

#

It's really just especially annoying with Magic Bounce

robust wren
#

Mega Mawile and Mega Sableye basically did Zacian and Zamazenta's whole all piercing spear and unbreakable shield thing better well before their existence

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As well as better than Rampardos and Bastiodon before them

woeful carbon
#

ive finally figured out what speed does in ZA

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and by figure it out

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I mean I looked at someone elses math

gray canopy
#

tell

woeful carbon
#

(this is at 60fps)

gray canopy
#

interesting

woeful carbon
#

so 100 speed would be a 180 frame cooldown reduction

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and theres a minimum cooldown of 3 seconds

#

also at 25 or less speed stat points it does not contribute to cooldown reduction

jade ocean
#

Iirc Speed stops lowering Cooldown at 172

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Going beyond there is wasting EVs

#

AKA: If you're playing casually, Speed EVs are dogshit

#

Because a literal Barbaracle can reach 172 with the only effort needed being 31 Speed IVs

woeful carbon
#

a close to max speed mega lopunny has a far greater cooldown reduction than a 180 speed mega meganium when both use giga impact

jade ocean
#

Fr?

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OK wait I need to do some testing of my own then maybe

woeful carbon
#

the 172 breakpoint is only for an 8 second move

jade ocean
#

Eh, realistically I'll be fine actually

jade ocean
#

I'm mainly just playing casually

woeful carbon
#

with the longest cooldown moves like giga impact/hyper beam theres no feasible way to reach its breakpoint as the fastest pokemon (mega alakazam) cannot reach it

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as a simple thing: speed only matters if youre using high cooldown moves

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and realistically most useful moves are at 8 cooldown so 172 is basically the most youd need

woeful carbon
wispy kernel
#

not even regieleki can get that lmao

#

Regieleki’s max is 548

woeful carbon
#

Here’s mega greninja as an example with a common set

jade ocean
#

Then I realised I'm stupid

#

And this is Level 50

#

And not Level 100

woeful carbon
#

Lmao

#

doing a rough math the speed breakpoint for a minimum cooldown giga impact / hyper beam is 666

radiant otter
#

found this funny guy resetting random spawns for swirlix/spritzee/bergmite

jade ocean
woeful carbon
#

also i found this stunfisk post where they cite a dudes calculations where speed below 25 does nothing funny cause at the end they include a 22-25 estimate when the actual number was calculated already

harsh oasis
#

Yeah

jade ocean
#

Which is 1 shy of the absolute max

#

And that's only at Level 100

harsh oasis
#

25 is the x intercept

woeful carbon
#

the simplest way to explain speed in ZA is: the longer a moves cooldown the more realistically impactful speed is

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as an example tackle with a 4s cooldown is almost immediately hitting the minimum of 3s at a fairly low speed

jade ocean
#

In any case it doesn't seem anywhere close to as meta defining as normal, though is still a decent investment choice

woeful carbon
#

you just have to find your breakpoints for your moves and invest appropriately

jade ocean
#

Like if you're playing Singles and using an offensive mon chances are you're going all the way to 252 Speed EVs

empty hinge
#

I just started yesterday is lucario bad for singles meta

jade ocean
#

What does is how good Lucario is in ZA

#

And if you aren't concerned with competitive ZA it doesn't even matter then

#

Because it certainly is good enough to work in a playthrough

woeful carbon
#

this is why kalos went to war with galar

jade ocean
#

True

#

Bro I'd go to war too

woeful carbon
jade ocean
#

It's a good thing it was portrayed as the culinary crime it is

woeful carbon
#

real talk is why the curry is a gelatin

#

why is it standing up

harsh oasis
#

It's not

#

It's a tower of rice

#

You can kinda see it in some shots

#

That video is really funny though heehee

woeful carbon
#

this is what the japanese think french people eat

jade ocean
harsh oasis
#

Yeah

jade ocean
#

It's an abomination, and Gamefreak knows it

harsh oasis
#

Taunie/Urbain is just a freak

#

And I love them

woeful carbon
jade ocean
jade ocean
harsh oasis
#

Mhm

jade ocean
#

Thanks autocorrect

#

Lids

woeful carbon
jade ocean
#

I feel like them being morons is the intention here because they really aren't bright

woeful carbon
#

I like this type of rival ngl

jade ocean
#

Lida calling Taunie/Urbaine out for being a dumbass is pretty cool though

#

Even though she isn't really that smart herself

#

But she isn't making stupid deals with the mafia so like

woeful carbon
#

player goes to bed after reaching D rank and then wakes up to the news they are in debt to the mafia for 100 thousand dollars

lime void
#

Well considering that the rust syndicate is the world’s nicest mafia, it certainly could have been worse

woeful carbon
#

true

jade ocean
#

True

harsh oasis
#

Urbain/Taunie is dumb, sure but why is Lida- oh yeah the water stone

#

Fair

#

And Naveen is a simp so, yeah

#

I guess they are a bunch of goofballs

#

Loveable goofballs tho

indigo mango
#

Mmh I can already buy vitamins at pokemarkts so all the articles saying its postgame where just lyin

harsh oasis
#

Huh?

#

Yeah that's weird

#

Vitamins, mints, and berries are all availble... I don't wanna say all game because I don't actually know that 100%, but most of the game

jade ocean
#

I know Mints and Berries are available as soon as you're allowed to go wherever you want

#

But I'm not sure about Vitamins

empty hinge
lime void
#

This is my second shiny Fletching

woeful flume
#

Any shiny fenniken

#

18 phases for him (realized i got an altaria and eevee in the day time)

surreal belfry
#

Should I switch my emboar so it has evs in defenses or keep it hp?

supple fern
#

Currently on Rank D.

summer flare
#

was thinking of how to give ampharos his final time to shine, figured that ||if the game was going to go all in on Starmie vs rogue Starmie||, and the ||Phillippe and Lida interaction was VERY cute btw||, then that's going to be Amphy's last stand as an official team member

#

I don't think I ever had any delusion that ampharos was going endgame, I probably knew it when I decided not to use the free shiny mareep

#

I'm saved in front of ||rogue starmie||, mega stone on him, tbolt/discharge/electroweb/dragonpulse, tbolt garde in case things go south for him.

#

then he's going to the retired gang for real, up with my nonshiny scolipede and recent retiree talonflame

wispy kernel
#

I love how camerupt sits in this game

summer flare
#

oh my god hes adorable

#

i love that scolipede curls up to sleep like a millipede

woeful carbon
summer flare
#

why that shit look frozen
or like gelatin

#

which is worse even??

robust wren
summer flare
wispy kernel
summer flare
#

HES SO UNSERIOUS
LITERALLY THE INITIAL POSE IS THE "GOD AND ANIME" KID

#

I'm sure he could straight up kill you, or have phillippe do it if absolutely necessary.
but just
so completely unserious

#

this bitch prolly sits there seething the entire day and someone works up the courage to ask whats up
and it's probably just that someone bought the last figurine he wanted or some shit

wispy kernel
#

Imagine going to a Miku concert and you see Corbeau there

indigo mango
#

It really was just that. Not sure why some had problems with it

summer flare
#

no but literally it was

#

you hit level 33, grab the thing and flip it, then the evolve button is available

steel zealot
#

END GAMES SPOILERS AHEAD
||legit one of the most emotional pokemon moments ever.|| and people say this game is bad…

wispy kernel
#

the only complaints I’ve seen are about the graphics, that it has a “long tutorial” and that it’s “woke” which means it’s the best game ever made

summer flare
#

tbh the fact you can go full fem and everyone knows ur he/him on vibes alone is a fun thought

jade ocean
#

Still can't believe that they added Glass Joe to Pokemon

wispy kernel
#

pokemon is inherently super woke Quagless my source is uh. trust me

lime void
indigo mango
#

man i was actually really hoping ||grisham would have used a charizard z|| i can see why some would find it meh but i think it would have been a cool last reveal

indigo mango
#

also also i was actually expecting them to reveal the ||mega zygarde during his boss battle...which i think will still happen. sicne i got spoiled on that. like i am expecting the Zygarde Battle to start with 10%, then 50% then Ultimate and then like the Volo fight where you thought its over, suddenly he Megas as the reveal. But nope the reveal happend before||

wispy kernel
#

guys I’m super close to finishing both my regular pokedex and my mega evolution pokedex

#

229/230 and 53/63 respectively

sturdy flower
#

HOLY FUCKING SHIT FULL ODDS SHINY TEPIG WHAT

#

DUDE I JUST RANDOMLY WENT TO ZONE 20 I WASN'T EVEN LOOKING FOR IT

harsh oasis
#

Nice! Nice

indigo mango
#

noice

sturdy flower
#

i almost got a heart attack

#

i was like, huh that tepig looks a little funny

#

tempted to trade it away

indigo mango
#

gotta say the ||rogue megas at the finale did cause me a bunch of problems...they just spammed so many attacks, my mons died pretty fast despite being level 80 and i could barely attack back cause it kept targetting the wrong ones...and then i died too....also fuck pokemon for not just sending you back into battle but having to listen to the entire conversation again||

sturdy flower
#

it's prime trading material after all

harsh oasis
lime void
harsh oasis
sturdy flower
harsh oasis
harsh oasis
# sturdy flower one what

A shiny tepig? The thing you were talking about? I'm just wondering why you would trade a shiny away

#

I assumed you must have a dupe

sturdy flower
#

no I'd trade it away for something i like more

#

like a shiny or shalpha fennekin

jade ocean
#

My team was only at level 75 at that point

#

Well

#

Except Emboar at 91

#

So I probably could've gotten to 80

#

But shh

lime void
#

Even that’s crazy overleveled for that point in the game

jade ocean
#

The secret is to fuck around a lot and do every side mission as soon as you see it

#

... I think

lime void
#

I also did that and my team was nowhere near that level

harsh oasis
#

That and buy red plushes

jade ocean
#

I was really playing slow

#

By slow I mean

#

Slow in terms of how much progress I made per hour

lime void
#

(Though I saved the last few quests for postgame)

jade ocean
#

Except I played an unhealthy amount every day I did play

indigo mango
#

i didnt grind or anything, thats just how they naturally turned

lime void
indigo mango
#

well exept Inkay there i pumped 300 ex candies s into them

jade ocean
#

Murdering Alphas give really good exp, mainly via the exp candies they drop

#

That's how I got most my candies

#

That, and basically going for the full night cycle whenever I did a Z-A Royale

#

And also a lot of doing random shit and wasting time as I previously said

indigo mango
#

exo candies is easy enough to get since you can just buy them

#

and if you want some higher level candies then yeah alphas or doing the restaurants

jade ocean
#

So I just murder the shit out of Alphas if I need candies

indigo mango
#

i mean eh, with an upgarded plush you can make around 600 crstyals in 5 min just doing the prism tower wall and the backside of hotel le yeah..which will reset every 10 minutes

jade ocean
#

Maybe I'm just inattentive as heck

indigo mango
#

i would say so plenty times i didnt notice i reached the cap already

jade ocean
#

I could've sworn I got to like 400 from doing that

#

And I do think I had max plushies at the time

indigo mango
#

full upgraded plush also makes the minimum a small crystal gives as 5

jade ocean
#

I know I had at least 1

#

Maybe 2? Idk

#

Well, not like it mattered in the end

#

Because realistically if I wasn't feeding Emboar so much I probably could've gotten to 80 across the team and it doesn't matter either ways I stomped everything

#

Almost got murdered by ||Megas Zam, Meta and Aero||

#

But that's besides the point

#

I saw that and immediately accepted my fate

#

||Thankfully, Grisham and Griselle were there||

#

||So I didn't get brutally pounded into a fine paste||

#

That was probably the scariest thing I've seen in this game tbh

#

At least the initial shock

summer flare
#

Still don't know who my 6th is, but it sure as shit wasn't ampharos

jade ocean
#

And Froslass doesn't count she has paper bones

summer flare
#

lmao imagine if i brought out bois for the first ever time

wispy kernel
#

Love that guy

#

Favorite pokemon ever

lime void
summer flare
#

i do too, but ampharos wasn't doing anything that garde couldn't :(

jade ocean
jade ocean
#

Knew it

summer flare
#

I do have a shiny lol

lime void
jade ocean
#

All Ampharos had to do is murder every Flying type it saw

summer flare
#

oh not dragons

jade ocean
#

And I'm glad to say it did very well

summer flare
#

flying

jade ocean
summer flare
#

garde can tbolt or shadow ball on preference

wispy kernel
#

My team throughout the game was:
Feraligatr, Charizard, Heracross, Hawlucha, Ampharos and Absol

jade ocean
#

Too frail

#

I can't just swap it in on the incoming Brave Bird

#

Or Hurricane

#

But I can for Ampharos

summer flare
#

i also have barbaracle for that lol

lime void
#

But real talk: you get malamarite way too late in the game considering that 1. It was revealed before the game came out and 2. It was a massive meme

wispy kernel
jade ocean
#

But I also didn't want to use 4 Fighting types

summer flare
#

i never used the absol, if you force me to take it then i don't give a shit about it

lime void
#

Barbaracle fucking trolled me

jade ocean
#

And by the time I could get one I was too attached to my team

#

That said it would've been funny if I just went Mono Fighting

summer flare
#

rock/water that i can use for dark and ice? yes please

jade ocean
#

There's a lot of stacked Fighting types in this game

summer flare
#

ok Ivor

jade ocean
#

And Bois

wispy kernel
#

Ivor my goat

#

I love him

summer flare
#

but i do love bar she literally handles anything scolipede can't

#

i love my himbo

jade ocean
#

I'm the better Fighting trainer and I only need 2 Pokemon to be so

#

L bozo

wispy kernel
#

Genuinely all of the characters in the game are so peak

jade ocean
#

Anyways I love how fucking stupid Ivor is

summer flare
#

true

wispy kernel
#

not a single bad one

summer flare
#

also true

wispy kernel
#

they’re all so good

#

even the most boring ones are peak

summer flare
#

i fuckign despise jacinthe but that's in spite of how good she is

jade ocean
#

Bro has 2 braincells, one for his view of Justice and the other for punching shit

#

Peak

summer flare
#

luckily he doesn't need braincells to care abt his sister

jade ocean
wispy kernel
#

Shoutout to Gwynn I love her so dearly

jade ocean
#

Or instinct

summer flare
#

low bar but true

jade ocean
#

Or something idk

wispy kernel
#

This game is so yuriful it’s crazy

harsh oasis
#

ZA makes me want to write fanfic. This is a high bar

lime void
summer flare
#

gwynn and canari r so cute

wispy kernel
harsh oasis
jade ocean
#

Gwynn really saw a terrorist walk into the room and went "I don't care I want to go home" she just like me fr

wispy kernel
#

and also Jacinthe is awesome too I love her so dearly

summer flare
#

idk abt grisham yet but they're written well and if you hate them it's because you're meant to

harsh oasis
#

I almost understand disliking jacinthe. But every other character is objectively peak

wispy kernel
#

She’s objectively like a horrible person

summer flare
#

i want to see what lebanne used to wear

wispy kernel
#

But she’s awesome

summer flare
#

the children yearn for electro swing

harsh oasis
#

I wonder if jacinthe will singlehandedly cause a spike in electro swing interest

summer flare
wispy kernel
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ok but have you considered. Lebanne was a punk on the streets. punk guy from xy has the same hair color as lebanne. Jacinthe may have forcefemmed Lebanne alongside the maid outfit

summer flare
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I have 4 potential mega users(scol, garde, barba, and less so meganium) and a noivern, I'm trying to figure out what types i could use primarily, or

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*what i'm weak to

wispy kernel
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theyre so toxic yuri I love them

lime void
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if we got charizard z i would have commit an act that would get me swatted for saying online

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this stupid fucking lizard doesn't deserve half the riding it gets

wispy kernel
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I kinda found myself liking charizard again after playing ZA

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cuz I used it myself

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if you seperate it from the blatant favoritism it is a pretty good design

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and its decently strong ngl

summer flare
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i guess

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i tried to, i really tried

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i just don't give a shit about him

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i just really really prefer frogs and turtles

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also apparently my team has fairly across the board weaknesses, so i guess i need to find what i'm not hitting as hard

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huh. i just. have an answer for literally everything

lime void
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also it was objectively the worst earlygame

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jesus i have full coverage for STAB, and barbaracle has night slash for coverage pain

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scolipede has EQ so i have an electric answer

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what the hell do i have as a 6th

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for now i can use the slot to level mons during story but wtf

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ampharos had no purpose the minute i got barbaracle

jade ocean
summer flare
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...in its game

jade ocean
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Venusaur on the other hand gets told to cry in a corner about its Mega being like very late

jade ocean
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Easily the worst starter

wispy kernel
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because its awesome

jade ocean
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Honestly I've seen some people say that it's horrible in a Nuzlocke

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Not entirely because it's not great

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Since it is serviceable I guess

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But more so because Blastoise and Venusaur are just better

summer flare
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literally

jade ocean
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That said though I think Zard gets too much hate

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Like by its own it's not a bad Pokemon

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But so many people treat it like Cancer 2 because Gamefreak gives it a lot of attention

summer flare
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i hope i'm not that kind of person

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i just hate it the same reason i hate pikachu

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i'm mad bc i could have liked it

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i just don't like it when things are shoved down ur throat

jade ocean
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Tbh, as long as its popularity isn't literally taking away from others, I'm fine with it

summer flare
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it is not the same reason i hate lucario, which is half that and half the fact it's a confusing and overdesigned abomination

jade ocean
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As for Pikachu, Mega Raichus may as well be Mega Pikachus, Raichu's evolution got scrapped to make baby Pikachu that only exists for being a marketable plushie and then it gets a broken fucking signature item (that it's still worse than Raichu with)

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Even then I wouldn't put it below C tier