pokemon-winds-waves

[harsh oasis]

VGC Heads call terastalization the best gimmick ever

cause it is

[lime compass]

It’s meant to be big pokemon

[charred sage]

in most cases the generic effects yea since in most cases "+1 to stat" or "sets up weather/terrain" synergizes more with what a mon wants

[robust wren]

The GMax Galar starters are literally the exact same Pokemon, just standing on something tall

[jade ocean]

I (me) call Terastalisation my 2nd least favourite gimmick entirely because facing a Kingambit in Singles while having to guess its Tera Type, or if it'll even use its Tera Type, or if it'll use Sucker Punch or not extremely agonising

[robust wren]

Not an excuse for lack of effort in making them distinct from base

[jade ocean]

I mean I usually like predicting but god damn I don't like predicting when I'm trying to predict like 100 different possibilities per turn

[charred sage]

there are some things exceptions tho like garbodor having no use for +1 special attack or lapras throwing up a free aurora veil

[jade ocean]

I do like some of the Gmax designs

I honestly prefer Gmax Blastoise over Mega Blastoise in design

That said, some of them are misses

[robust wren]

"Venusaur but big flower. Charizard but wings on fire. Butterfree but big wings. Meowth but it's the meme cat."

[jade ocean]

Gmax Zard's wings are too tiny

According to all known laws of aviation there is no way this mf should be able to fly

And it makes it look too awkward

[tepid moss]

It's my second fave after mega evo

[robust wren]

GMax Meowth is literally the Longcat meme from almost 20 years ago being dredged up from the fossil pit

[jade ocean]

I'd rank them as Megas>Zmoves>Tera>Dmax

AKA how much I like fighting them

[arctic pendant]

Dude G-max is awesome.

[jade ocean]

Anyways, as I was saying

Flapple and Appletun look like steaming piles of dogshit next to Hydrapple

[lime compass]

Finally someone who agrees with me

[jade ocean]

And heck, even compared to Dipplin

They're still just

Worse

And by a lot

Partially because of Eviolite, admittedly

[robust wren]

Mega Gengar vs GMax Gengar is one of the biggest downgrades in design in all of recorded history

[jade ocean]

But idk you could give Eviolite to Flapple and it'd still be worse than Dipplin

Appletun, maybe it'd be better afterwards

Point is though

These mfs are dogshit compared to Hydrapple

[lime compass]

Because they are different pokemon

[jade ocean]

And even compared to Dipplin they're underwhelming

They need evolutions

[robust wren]

GMax Eevee and GMax Corviknight are two of the literal biggest "they just didn't care" GMax designs ever

[lime compass]

Personally I don’t think they are dipplin doesn’t have much of a design compared to the others

[jade ocean]

It doesn't matter to me, because at the end of the day Dipplin is far better in battle than the other 2

And yet it is the one with the evolution

It simply isn't right

Not to say I dislike Hydrapple

It's actually my favourite hydra Pokemon, Hydreigon be damned

But man, it's so fucking disrespectful to Flapple and Appletun

It's about as disrespectful if, like

Gamefreak made a Pseudo Legendary that was a specially bulky Dragon type

[dapper nymph]

Hey, is there anywhere I could go to grind levels for my Pokémon? I wanna evolve the Kirlia I got from the Early Purchase event into a Gardevoir.

[jade ocean]

Maybe make it physically frail

As a special attacker

Make it slow

And don't give it reliable recovery

Sounds good?

Well, now make another Pokemon in the same generation

That matches that exact description

And make it better

And give it a Mega

... Oh wait, that did happen

Yeah no Gamefreak in general makes really questionable balancing decisions

And game design decisions

[lime compass]

And in the end of the day we all have different opinions

[arctic pendant]

Yes. But Corviknight is already one of the best designs, no need to try to go further.

[jade ocean]

Fair

Some do care more about how much it makes sense from a visual design perspective

But as a competitive player, I just can't help but look at things that way instead

I can't look at Tropius

And it's horrid stats

And think

"This needs a prevo"

[lime compass]

I can Imagen it being a banana with legs

[summer flare]

forgot to mention last night, got earth power tm finally so meganium can finally go full special

need so find some kelpsy berries for her tho so i can redistribute a lil

was rocking eq for a bit

god im so happy that meganium is finally usable

forgot that blastoise was special mega(fair) and ended up swapping w barbaracle

[charred sage]

I like how up until this I thought you were talking about cursola and polteageist

[jade ocean]

You probably missed this part then

[charred sage]

did

but yea they very much feel vestigial now

then again I've given up on judging pokemon based on battle capacity since it feels like such a crapshoot on if something ends up being good or not

[summer flare]

real

im just glad scolipede is good

i love bughorse

[charred sage]

especially since some things just instantly throw a pokemon into the dumpster if they lack it or overcompensate for it like Recover on something that's below 101 base speed

[jade ocean]

I dont really take into account viability when deciding what Pokemon I like or dislike

[summer flare]

for a long time meganium wasnt even potential mon
she just didnt have the moves to make her useful

[jade ocean]

But I sure as well will complain about horrible decisions about balancing

Seriously why is Goodra just inferior Dragalge

[charred sage]

especially since a lot of time it doesn't feel like a huge concern compared to "what looks good in the anime/merch"

[jade ocean]

Why does Dipplin get an evolution while Appletun and Flapple don't

Why do Baby Pokemon even exist

Marketing?

[charred sage]

I was gonna say "things that break you if you think about them too hard" but that last one is absolutley "marketing" lol

[summer flare]

marketing and the breeding mechanic

the mechanic primarily

[jade ocean]

Because I'm sure someone will want to give their Pokemon an item to breed for a Pokemon that is inferior in every way

[charred sage]

well, some of them at least allow midgame mons to be put earlier I feel like that really only applies to Budew

[jade ocean]

That will eventually just evolve back into the same Pokemon anyways

[summer flare]

i guess they dont really get any good moves early or at all, huh

[jade ocean]

I think Pichu gets like

[charred sage]

and roselia isn't exactly something you can unjustify putting early unless the first gym is weak to it (which admittedly in gen 4, it is)

[jade ocean]

Volt Tackle only via breeding?

But Volt Tackle on Pikachu is like admitting you hate Pikachu and want it to commit self die

[summer flare]

theyre a novelty mostly

[jade ocean]

It's so bad on the line

[summer flare]

okay but true

[charred sage]

actually my bad I guess B2/W2 magby and elekid too

[jade ocean]

Magby and Elekid I also have problems with

[charred sage]

but those two both feel like normal mons they just call babies for marketing reasons

[jade ocean]

Because as we can plainly see, Magmortar and Electivire aren't quite strong enough

Tbf their designs are already quite busy, it'd be hard to make an evolution for them

But at the same time having the option would've been nice

[charred sage]

I mean in electrivire's case...

[summer flare]

at the end of the day the babies exist to make things feel more like animals ig

[jade ocean]

The only time I won't complain about babies are like

[charred sage]

at the end of the day assuming anything about intent is a crapshoot at best

[jade ocean]

For the baby Pokemon that straight up don't even feel like baby Pokemon

So like, Togepi, Riolu, Toxel etc

That were introduced in the same generation as their evolutions

[charred sage]

the ones introduced in the same gen as their evos yea

[summer flare]

something something kangaskhan but idk magmar from an egg is a lil weird

[jade ocean]

I'm also OK with Tyrogue because evolving it is interesting

[charred sage]

so basically "cross gen pre-evos bad"

[jade ocean]

And it was introduced alongside Hitmontop

Happiny I hate less than the majority of babies but more than those 4

Mainly because like

[summer flare]

i just think it's funny they wouldnt give us gorochu or whatever

[jade ocean]

A Blissey evolution would be nightmare fuel

[charred sage]

imo happiny I feel like is the most irrelevant "this is meant for the anime" baby of them all rofl

[summer flare]

idk i like her

i think shes neat

[charred sage]

though not the mon I dislike the most at least (or just dislike in general)

[summer flare]

but literally have you seen pichu bros

[charred sage]

it's kinda just... there in the same way dusknoir is kinda just there

[summer flare]

anything pikachu is for anime

[charred sage]

and meowth too

[jade ocean]

Hey, I'll have you know that Dusknoir was better than Dusclops for 1 generation, and then Dusclops became better in VGC for a few gens, then they became irrelevant, and they're both irrelevant 24/7 in Singles anyways

[charred sage]

...and probably eevee since 2018 or so

[summer flare]

crazy they never went for eevee as mascot initially, theyre certainly trying now

[jade ocean]

The only Pokemon where you could maybe say the Eviolite mon is better than its evo in Singles

[charred sage]

Lets Go was where that happened yea

[jade ocean]

And they're both so bad that you can't even be certain

💔

[summer flare]

wasted potential mon,,,

[charred sage]

meanwhile I"m like "well you're trying to play PvP there's your first mistake"

where a good 70% of the dex at minimum is basically free food for the remaining 30%

[summer flare]

type shit

[charred sage]

"my defense is nothing, it's a good day to faint"

[summer flare]

god i fucking love mega drill

the quintessential wasp analogy

also anyone fw the sewer battle theme as much as i do

makes shiny hunting a vibe for sure

actually i love the sewers in general bc by the time you get to one end you can run back and something else spawned

ALSO ALSO i love how the gen that ruined color brought it back

shiny venipedr was SO NOTICEABLE after seeing so many bright red pillbugs before

and whirls green was so bright i had to run around for a while with tutti frutti bouncing after me

probably worked out bc scol is slow xp

[plucky escarp]

chad beedrill

[summer flare]

GIVE ME LIBERTY GIVE ME FIRE GIVE ME 3 BUG WEAK OR I RETIRE

beedril was good for early game

[jade ocean]

Beedrill is probably one of the better Bug types in a playthrough

Though it's close to the worst competitively

I mean those are good stats for the early game

[summer flare]

and it's in the first group of megas!

[robust wren]

Mega Beedrill is exactly what a Mega evolution should be, I don't care if others have it beaten out statswise

[summer flare]

eh

i just think hes neat

[sturdy flower]

i'm hunting for shiny garde while i revise for my test tomorrow

just gotta press up and a every few seconds

no charm ofc

[willow vessel]

Can someone help me evolve my trade Pokémon?

[woeful carbon]

https://x.com/Pokemon/status/1983292694957838813

Pokémon @ Lumiose City 🥐 (@Pokemon)

Pikachu: pika pi ⚡️

Eevee: ee eevee ee 🤎

Average Lumiose City shopper:

X · Oct 28, 2025, 10:00 PM

how is this a real tweet from pokemon

[robust wren]

There genuinely has to be something in the water over in Lumiose

[woeful carbon]

no its just france

but there is also something in the water

[lime void]

Keep in mind that life and death is the theme of Kalos

[woeful carbon]

its just kind of absurd I talked to every npc I could and did not find this dialogue

also I just find out the spewpa you get from lumiose city museum evolves into a vivilion with a true unique pattern as its the only spewpa you can get ingame that evolves into a marine pattern

[robust wren]

Marine is probably my second favorite Vivillon pattern, so I see this as a win

[lime void]

Kind of weird that they ditched Vivillion’s whole gimmick after just one game

[robust wren]

If we get a future game in Alola and evolving Spewpa there makes it the Sunrise form, I'm cool with it

[lime void]

(Unless it’s also in Alola, but you’d have to transfer one in from Gen 6)

[woeful carbon]

actually gimmick existed in gen 7 as well but got ditched in gen 8 and 9

[lime void]

That’s why I said what I said above

[woeful carbon]

oh

mb

[lime void]

Still, that’s just one game where you can obtain Vivillion without help from another game

[radiant otter]

IVE HAD THE SHINY CHARM FOR 5 MINUTES😭

[desert current]

https://youtu.be/h4oLHXq307w?si=yHkKrEXXkGD4QdNK

[desert current]

At the same time though, it is cool that they've shifted towards it making more sense in-universe. Instead of being based on the irl region, it now does it based on Pokemon regions.

In Kalos they have the meadow pattern, but in Paldea they had the fancy pattern. Makes me wonder if they'll continue having it in future games with different patterns each game.

[lime void]

Making it based on the in game region does make more sense, but it also makes it harder to collect different forms, and makes it so that your Vivillion won’t be as unique anymore

[lime void]

No way that last one’s real

[steel zealot]

What the fuck does that mean?! What the fuck happened to clemont

https://tenor.com/view/they-got-him-ted-ted-show-gif-4342699035732514153

[lime compass]

What kind a shit are you guys finding

[desert current]

Yeah... True...

[tepid moss]

The darkness that lies behind the cute and cuddly facade that is pokemon

[robust wren]

Clemont learned too much...

[dim plover]

bro found out about ||ange|| so floette silenced him

[lime void]

Oh no, the Charizard nation got Clemont

[compact saffron]

I think he saw the inside of a mimikyu

[wispy kernel]

Can’t wait to find faller Clemont in Mega Dimensions

[compact saffron]

Clemont has now...seen some things

Also what is up with jacinthe? Besides the tournament, what is her role in the story

[tepid flame]

Disco Elyisum-ass dialogue

I think Jacinthe's just there to be cute and be a fanart magnet idk

[lime void]

Shame that they made her extremely annoying

I don’t care about your stupid tournament, I’m trying to save the city here

[tepid flame]

Seeing as there's a good amount of fanart of her I think her annoyingness has some charm to it

She's kinda giving uhhhhhhh

OH Clair

But like less pompous

[indigo mango]

they got him

[indigo mango]

the same as every other Promotion Match Character

to have 1 small arc that moves you up a letter

[woeful carbon]

The Pokemon League got him

he developed a functioning autonomous AI

[arctic pendant]

Oohhhhh that makes sense now

[sturdy flower]

cute? she's an annoying bitch and also completely insane

she's basically the only character I didn't like in the entire game

[lime void]

I can think of a couple others I don’t like

[sturdy flower]

hex maniac is a fanart magnet

and canari too honestly

[woeful carbon]

we can never forgive X&Y for this

[sturdy flower]

who

[sturdy flower]

why, what's wrong with hex maniac

[woeful carbon]

from this to this

I want the witch back ngl

[lime void]

Grisham because he uses a fucking Charizard and Canari for personal reasons

[sturdy flower]

well that's clearly an improvement

[sturdy flower]

i mean, team flare

makes sense

he's not a very relevant character anyways

[lime void]

Team Flare never used a Charizard, nor should they have

[sturdy flower]

canari was pretty unlikeable at first but i warmed up to her

[sturdy flower]

i wouldn't know, I didn't play XY

[solemn oak]

Two new ones today babyyyy

[woeful carbon]

nobody gave a shit about the hex maniac until they made her pretty

[solemn oak]

I got espurr this morning before school and drill bur jumpscared me while shiny hunting at cool

[sturdy flower]

i mean, yeah obviously

it used to just be a random trainer class

why would anyone care

then they made an amazing design and people went crazy for her

[solemn oak]

She was always pretty

[woeful carbon]

prettier then

[solemn oak]

https://tenor.com/view/carisibot-sonny-carisi-perfection-gif-22919245

[sturdy flower]

carisibot

[lime void]

Children please

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

[solemn oak]

Idk what to name drillbur

[lime void]

So just agree to disagree and move on

[solemn oak]

Any ideas fellas

[sturdy flower]

Simon or Kamina

[desert current]

With fictional characters, I think its okay to like them more when they're more appealing to look at. That's character character design for ya.

[sturdy flower]

i love Emma

[woeful carbon]

fair

[woeful carbon]

but what if we combine the witch hat with current hex maniac

[lime void]

I named the Exadrill I used on my playthrough team Monty after Monty moles from Mario

[solemn oak]

I was watching the movie while I caught the shiny whitliped

[sturdy flower]

close enough

[sturdy flower]

i can accept that

[desert current]

Guys... I have a crack theory...

I just finished beating the game for a second time, and something just seems off to me about Floette.

||I think Floette's flower is alive. Like its an entirely seperate entity to Floette. Think about it... When Floette mega evolves, its body remains completely unchanged. Instead its the FLOWER that evolves. Its dex entry even says "The flower now attacks enemies on its own" implying that it has a mind of its own! Floette's flower is canonically not a part of its body, since its pre-evolution Flabebe's dex entries specify that it chooses a flower at birth and keeps it its entire life (and its shiny form only changes the color of its body, the flower remains unchanged).||

||When Floette powers up Ange, the flower is the thing that goes out of control. Taunie/Urbain even say that Floette was protecting them from harm, and either Naveen or Lida (I don't remember which one) points out that it looks like Floette's flower when the tower gets taken over!||

||This would also explain why its even able to Mega Evolve in the first place... Because even though Floette isn't fully evolved, the flower IS!!! ||

||(I know they address it by basically just saying that Floette is special because it was hit by the ultimate weapon... But its still sort of left a mystery. I like this explanation better).||

[tepid flame]

Some people have different tastes and tolerance idk man XD

I don't personally care much for her either but I think she's more compelling than like

Elesa's third-times reheated leftovers

[indigo mango]

nah thats not what happend, the message even says that Bonney is still looking for him so something bad happend

[indigo mango]

hardly a theory, its dex entiry states as much

||Mega Evolution gave the Eteneral Flower so mnuch energy that it now attacks on its own||

btw i havent finised the game i accidently clicked and read your first sentence, so if you already incldued the dex im sorry

[desert current]

I did mention it yeah. 😅

It also includes spoilers for the ending so if you didn't read the rest, then that's probably a good thing if you were wanting to avoid spoilers.

[robust wren]

I at least appreciate Jacinthe giving us a screenshot like this

[arctic pendant]

Yeah you’re right. Maybe a remake will expand upon this plot line?

[indigo mango]

pout

[torn badge]

i've found 2 full odds shinies in this game

and for some reason they were both trubbish

[indigo mango]

woah there friend you might need to calm down

[lime void]

Hey, they took life force willingly this time, and didn’t kill the girl

[torn badge]

need

so many crystals

for all these stones

[lime void]

You mean you haven’t been destroying literally every cluster of mega crystals you come across?

[indigo mango]

crystal farming is so easy

i use it as my exp farm

can easily get around 800 crystals in 10 minutes and then just buy 100 exp candy s

and i only have level 1 on the crystal plushy

[torn badge]

i have but now i'm havng a weird amnt of difficulty finding more

a skill issue? almost certainly

[indigo mango]

they resapwn every 10 minutes

just farm the ones next to prism tower and restaurant le yeah

prism tower has like probably 200 or more

and le yeah around 50

and that without leveling the plush

le bluie

[surreal belfry]

I think I’ll name her Arachne

[surreal belfry]

Is that there shiny i keep thinking if they have different color forms they don’t get a shiny

[indigo mango]

Vivillion Shiny only changes the body to full white instead of white and black

not the wings

[harsh oasis]

Turns out, the spewpa you get from a sidequest is blu

[light agate]

im busy suffering on shiny hunt without charm so have a picture of my accidental femboy protagonist and my alpha and normal furfrou meanwhile

[harsh oasis]

The objective best furfrou trim

[opal gull]

with the cap? no

[desert current]

I am on a quest for XS small form Pumpkaboo

[radiant otter]

i have a spare shiny furfrou if you would like to trade

[solemn oak]

I’m pissed

I was shiny hunting furfrou and then I heard two different shiny sounds play at once

Well

I got my first shiny alpha

Fuck it you guys name them for me idc

[arctic pendant]

Treasure for the Garbador

[radiant otter]

first shiny alpha :)

[light agate]

-# NO LUCK WHEN IM ACTUALLY HUNTING BUT I GET THIS SHINY WHEN I JUST WANTED TO CATCH SKARMONY FOR DEX….

[light agate]

Sweet, I’d be down for that

Something you want in particular?

[surreal belfry]

It’s different wing color?!

[harsh oasis]

Yes indeed

[surreal belfry]

Something like trashboat not as an insult just a reference to something else

[surreal belfry]

I vote spike

[solemn oak]

Alright

[harsh oasis]

Yooooo

I love that shiny with all my heart

Congrats

[radiant otter]

do you have something you don't want?

[light agate]

In terms of shinies, no

[radiant otter]

make a link code i’ll send over a furfrou

sorry i got distracted by a shiny flaaffy

[light agate]

Today I learn kabuki from is even better as shiny.

[summer flare]

horse sized millipede my beloved

[wise basin]

I made an interesting team for my first playthrough of Pokemon Legends ZA.

[steel zealot]

thats a pretty trashy shiny alpha my guy XD

[desert current]

Still no luck... 😔

[desert current]

I'm starting to think this was a bad idea. I found a full-odds shiny pumpkaboo, but still no sign of an XS small form pumpkaboo.

[dawn nebula]

what are some people's thoughts on the megas?

I adore Excadrill as a pokemon, but I'm not a huge fan of the Mega. Hawlucha's is kinda peak though

[stone marsh]

I hate this game

This is like 2 or 3 hours

[slate loom]

I hate that the aquaring healing sound effect sounds similar to the shiny one

[willow kelp]

I'll just need 1/1.5 nights of za royale to finally get my shiny charm 🎉

[plucky escarp]

at least its a shalpha

[storm bone]

Finally won 500 battles , 500 more to go

[solemn oak]

What were you hunting

[plucky escarp]

Altaria i assume based on the start of the clip

-# or swablu cause itll evolve

[solemn oak]

Damnnnn

I’ve been shiny hunting furfrou for 4 hours

I’m never hunting at zone 19 again

I feel like I’m in Detroit every time I walk in there

Also the gate only has 2 spawns so you have to either do trad method or you only get 2 spawns of furfrou

[daring finch]

Waadle

[plucky escarp]

why are you now tag rule 2

do i even want to know

[daring finch]

Related to a comic I made

[storm fog]

You should really buy a lottery ticket

[opaque osprey]

Trying to get Alpha Hawlucha to spawn (Havent unlock Zone 20) and managed to get Shiny Scatterbug

[willow kelp]

Finally got a shiny gastly to spawn, now the hunt for a alpha shiny begins

[plucky escarp]

based

[fickle birch]

Shiny Alpha Mega Gengar would look so cool. 😄

[willow kelp]

That's the goal

[plucky escarp]

id love to have one

but i am not farming a shalpha lol

[willow kelp]

Yeah I might give up if it takes to long

[fickle birch]

Same, I kind of hate how spawns work in Z-A. 😅

But I did get a Shiny Inkay the other day, so I'm up to 4 total ||non-Mareep|| Shinies now. 🙂

[willow kelp]

I'm on three today, total is 12

One of them is the mareep

[fickle birch]

I was hunting for Eevee and fell off a roof into a little courtyard, and that's where I found my Ekans. 😄

[willow kelp]

Just ran into my first shalpha, spinarak

And now a spewpa 🎉

And the second shiny gastly

[polar hatch]

Note the outfit

[harsh oasis]

Shiny Noivern!

[warm skiff]

This person looks like me, but with brown eyes.

[polar hatch]

Same outfit XD

[desert current]

I have a LOT of thoughts... So much so that it reaches Discord's character limit. I might need to split it into parts... 😅

I'm not necassarily going to put them behind spoilers, because the game has been out for a while now... (If anyone hasn't seen them online already, idk what to say, that's impressive).

Mega Clefable - Its fine but I don't like the weird hat-shaped flesh blob on its head. It looks like a baby bottle (which by extension makes it look like... uhhh... you know...)

Mega Victreebel - I don't really like it... I first saw its render before seeing that Resident Evil teaser trailer they made for it, so my first impressions weren't great. I think its a little TOO goofy. It removed all the "edge" from Victreebel's design (apparently I'm the only person in the world who thought the sharp leaves and angular eyes of its design were "cool," because everyone just looks at it as an upside down Weepinbel). A lot of people like how goofy it is though, so I can't be too mad at the end of the day.

Mega Starmie - When I first saw it, I couldn't believe my eyes. Its such a horrendous "lazy" design... And I absolutely love it. Its goofy ahhh animations during the Rogue Mega fight were oddly charming, and its just hilarious that they seemingly decided to give it Huge Power (based on it getting extra stats like Medicham and Mawile did). And after realizing its based on the Starman (a common alien trope in Japanese culture), I appreciate it now even more.

Mega Dragonite - Its design is super overhated. Sure the wings are goofy, but I appreciate that instead of trying to make it COOL or EDGY, they doubled down on Dragonite's cuteness and compassion. It also brings back a lot of aspects from Dragonair (which is something people had complained about in the past, since it changes appearance completely when fully evolved). Its shiny even goes from dull green to vibrant blue to match its pre-evolutions!

.
Mega Meganium - Some people say its design is lazy, but idk I think it looks perfectly fine. I'm glad it finally got that Fairy typing it deserved (though it is strange that it only learns a total of two fairy type attacks...)

Mega Feraligatr - I ADORE that GameFreak acknowledged that most fans liked Totodile more than its evolutions, so they thought up a creative way to make it resemble it in its Mega Evolution... That said, yeah, the hood really kills the design. It should just stay down in its idle, it looks like a freakin toilet seat!

Mega Emboar - I don't feel that strongly about this one. Its a perfectly serviceable design for Mega Emboar. The spear is neat.

.
Mega Skarmory - Kind of a miss for me... The super long toes is kinda weird, and I despise the shade of yellow they chose for it. Its mean to look like gold, but instead it looks like piss. Its too oversaturated. If they hadn't changed the colors, it wouldn't have looked different enough from normal Skarmory.

**Mega Froslass - **PEAK MEGA. I love this design! Some people complain that its "Froslass but taller," but come on now, it FINALLY actually looks like how the stories describe it! I've never considered Froslass to be as "beautiful" or "elegant" as the dex entries describe it, but now it actually makes sense! It really leans into that spirit woman vibe.

Mega Excadrill - Yeah I have to agree... This mega is kinda bad. The drills are comically large, makes it feel like it shouldn't be able to balance itself at all.

Mega Scolipede - Pretty cool, but I feel like its a little front-heavy. The armor on the front is a bit too clunky, and there's nothing on the back of it to even out the color balance (I like the neon greenish blue colors though).

Mega Scrafty - Much like Emboar, I don't have many strong feelings about it... Though, I feel like its a little odd that they gave Scrafty (the Pokemon based on hoodlums) to the token black character in the group. That feels a bit odd... The choice to make it a white hood to look more like shed skin also ends up making it look like part of the KKK.

Mega Eelektross - Some people (mostly Jimothy Cool) say that its design is too simple and not different enough from the original... And I don't get why. It looks PLENTY different. The added white coloration makes it stand out a ton from its normal form, and the plus/minus designs of the mouths is really cool. As a result it also brings back aspects of its pre-evolution Tynamo! (and I love when they bring back aspects of pre-evolutions).

Mega Chandelure - One of my favorite ghost types OF ALL TIME! Peak mega for a peak Pokemon! Its exactly as I imagined a Mega Chandelure would look like, and the little crown it gets gives it bonus points (because it matches one of my OC's perfectly!)

[jade ocean]

My main issue with Mega Eelektross is that they leaned into the exact thing that made Eelektross bad in terms of stats

Except instead of being a slow frail mixed attacker it's now a mid speed frail mixed attacker

It makes me sad

[charred sage]

instead of dumping a stat (ideally physical attack) and putting all of that into speed

[desert current]

Mega Chesnaught - Finally doing my boy some justice! He looks like a KING! I love the trope of old-but-wise warrior kings, like King Rhoam if he was a Pokemon.

Mega Delphox - I really appreciate how its design looks like the perfect mix of wizard and witch! People tend to forget that despite looking feminine, the Fennekin line is prodominantly male (due to how the gender ratio for starters has reduced odds for female mons, to make breeding them more difficult). Mega Delphox has the perfect middle ground of being able to be an elderly witch, or a long-bearded wizard.

Mega Greninja - The hanging upside down thing is a little odd... But eh, its going FULL NINJA so I can't complain. I'm really hoping it gets Technician as an ability, because paired with Water Shuriken it would be so cool.

Mega Falinks - I'm so glad that one of my favorite mons got a Mega... But I'm unfortunately not a fan of the design. Going full Power Rangers megazord mode is cool on paper, but the result is it just looking like some kind of Pac-Man Mega Man hybrid. It looks a little too goofy, too off-balance like it will topple over any second (which is charming I suppose), and its just too top heavy. I don't like how much they change sizes, they're not consistent anymore and it feels off to me.

||Mega Zygarde - Nobody expects "Naked Zygarde with a Nuke." That Sp. Atk stat is ABSURD, but I really don't like how it goes from a physical attack to a full-on special attacker.||

||Mega Floette - Its fascinating to me that this got a Mega. I know AZ's Floette can't evolve, but it getting a Mega has crazy implications. It doesn't change AT ALL, rather the flower is the thing that evolves (Floette's flower is canonically not part of its body). Its dex entry even says that the flower attacks on its own, implying it has sentience.||

[desert current]

Yeah... True. They did the same with Malamar. It reeks of "oh they have contrary, oh they have no weakness, let's make sure they stay balanced." Having no weakness isn't as beneficial as they seem to think when you barely have any resistances either.

[jade ocean]

It also does have a quad weakness to U-Turn

It's admirable how they managed to make Malamar's stat boosts worse than Pyroar's

When the latter has 20 in every stat

[desert current]

(lmao I stepped away to use the bathroom for a second, and when I came back you mention the very thing I was about to complain about XD)

Mega Pyroar - THIS MEGA IS AGREGIOUS! Its by far the LAZIEST I've ever seen! They literally just threw 20 into each stat and called it a day, doing NOTHING to help Pyroar's terrible viability. Its a waste of a mega and it makes a forgettable Pokemon even more forgettable... And while making its mane look like a fire kanji is cool on paper, it just sorta looks bad in execution. It also results in the male and female Pyroar having the same exact design.

Mega Malamar - "Oh you're a villain alright, just not a super one..."

"What's the difference?"

"PRESENTATION!"

The My Friend Malamar campaign was genius marketing. One of the most memorable moments leading up to the game's release! I love Mega Malamar's design, it gives serious supervillain energy... And its shaped like an M too! Its too bad they didn't cook at all with its stats. It reeks of GameFreak "balancing" around Contrary.

Mega Barbaracle - Bro is doing a Jojo pose. If I had a nickel for every Mega Pokemon they designed like a supervillain, I'd have two nickels... Which isn't a lot but its weird that it happened twice... It losing the water typing is kinda odd, but its a good change because it removes that 4x weakness, and improves its offense exponentially. Its basically Terrakion but with Shell Smash.

Mega Dragalge - I'm SO GLAD this got a Mega... But it makes me sad that its version-exclusive counterpart (Clawitzer) didn't get one too. It had better get Regenerator, because the lack of recovery is the biggest thing keeping this Pokemon from being a reliable special tank (and the world isn't ready for a mon with Adaptability and a 132 Sp. Atk stat).

Mega Hawlucha - Glad to see more Kalos megas. Not much to really say about him though.

Mega Drampa - Pretty cool. I was NOT expecting it though.

[desert current]

(the no weaknesses part was more towards Eelektross, who will probably still have levitate... I made it unclear sorry)

Malamar has no resistances, while Eelektross only has two. Even with no weakness Eelektross still takes neutral from almost everything.

[jade ocean]

Technically does resist like

Electric

And Steel

And Flying

But yeah no it lacks resistances

[desert current]

And flying... I guess I was wrong, its three.

[jade ocean]

Not really close to being a great defensive type

Resistances are so important

As are the specific types that are resisted

[uncut vigil]

got the 1.38% drop

[jade ocean]

Ngl why are all the Pokemon that "No weaknesses" could apply to so mid in stats

I was talking about this in #other-pokemon-games too I think

But like

Look at the stats of Sableye and Spiritomb man

[lime void]

You just answered your own question

[jade ocean]

Where did bro's stats go

[desert current]

Shoulda been Electric/Poison. It would have an extra weakness towards Psychic, but its ability would get rid of that pesky 4x weakness. Vastly improves its defensive and offensive properties, at the cost of a single weakness. Its fitting too since its literally a leech.

[jade ocean]

Doesn't stop Pokemon with even better defensive types like Ferrothorn from having better stats

[desert current]

No weaknesses isn't as good as GameFreak thinks it is.

[jade ocean]

Ferrothorn tanking MDiancie Mystical Fire and blowing up its kneecaps in retaliation will never not be funny to me btw

[desert current]

Even Mega Sableye (who has pretty good bulk) still sucks.

[jade ocean]

Not in Singles though

In Singles, Mega Sableye's a fucking war criminal

Though tbf

Magic Bounce

[desert current]

Ah, fair...

[uncut vigil]

guys where can i get a fast 100 wins 💔🫩

[jade ocean]

They don't know

[desert current]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

Not unless you have a macro or want to spam A for an hour...

[jade ocean]

I can't believe they gave Sableye Parting Shot

[uncut vigil]

a know of the cafe method but i don’t feel like buying a specific controller so that can afk it

[jade ocean]

This better not make its way out of Z-A

[uncut vigil]

fr

[jade ocean]

Or the next game with Megas in it is about to become absolutely agonising

Well

They are also adding SD Mega Lopunny

NP Mega Greninja

Encore Mega Gengar

Shell Smash Mega Blastoise

[uncut vigil]

wait i realized i need 600 points and the quest only gives 500….

[jade ocean]

Shell Smash Mega Barbaracle

[desert current]

For the record, there were moves some mons got in Legends: Arceus that never made it to the main games.

[jade ocean]

Yup, and I'm hoping Parting Shot Sableye is one of them

I do not want to fight Parting Shot Mega Sableye

[uncut vigil]

ight what controller do i need for the cafe method

[desert current]

Only one I can name off the top of my head is Lucario getting Mach Punch.

[jade ocean]

Those latter 3 though...

Those are straight up confirmed

[desert current]

true

[jade ocean]

Gengar got Encore in SV

Blastoise got Shell Smash in SWSH

Barbaracle has always had Shell Smash

I can't wait for Ubers to be unplayable for a singular day before Mega Gengar gets banned

Bro's ass is NOT lasting

[desert current]

idk the specifics of what controller they used, just that it required setting it to spam A and spam ZL (to make sure it always targets the pokemon in battle).

[jade ocean]

If Return is in Champions and Lopunny keeps Swords Dance, it's about to become an absolute menace

[uncut vigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1414910583655895124/1422458265005985824/attachment.gif

[jade ocean]

Heck you may not even need Return

Things that Mega Lop is confirmed to get are Close Combat and Taxel

[uncut vigil]

forgot champions was in development ngl

[jade ocean]

This is huge

[tepid moss]

Why would it get banned?

[jade ocean]

Mega Gengar locks you in with Shadow Tag and forces you to click Swords Dance for the next 10 Eternities while setting up on you with Nasty Plot

What do you do?

A: Lose

B: Lose

C: Lose

[tepid moss]

Ah

[jade ocean]

I mean it's not like there's many faster mons

[desert current]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-horizons-pokemon-anime-gimmighoul-gholdengo-gif-13484631569019536096

[jade ocean]

Miraidon's probably gonna find itself in AG again

[desert current]

The ONLY option.

[jade ocean]

If Sucker Punch users miss the read then they're cooked too

And there's no relevant faster Dark types

I guess there's Deo-A?

Does Zacian Crowned OHKO without Intrepid Sword boost?

Oh my god Caly-S is gonna be allowed isn't it

OK nevermind Gen 10 Ubers is gonna be a nightmare either ways

Anyways I think the best way to explain how Mega Gengar is broken

Is to point towards NatDex Ubers

3 Pokemon were banned from it on Day 1

Tera Calyrex, Tera Shedinja and Mega Gengar

In the following week, Miraidon and Mega Rayquaza would get banned

Then after the DLC dropped, Koraidon would join the group

A bit after that, Xerneas got banned for Tera Abuse as well

But those last parts are irrelevant

The point is, Encore Mega Gengar is as strong as the most broken Pokemon that has ever existed

And a broken Pokemon that doesn't exist

As the joint 3 most broken Pokemon in NatDex

Which is NOT a good sign

Anyways speaking of NatDex

It's also how I know Shell Smash Mega Blastoise and Barbaracle are bad news

Mega Blastoise is banned in NatDex OU due to Shell Smash

And Mega Barbaracle has very similar stats, except better

[indigo mango]

having gone to B now...i do wonder how they are gonna explain the fact that nobody else ever reached Rank A

which makes no sense considering how many B Rankers i already seen

there should have been plenty of promotion matches with B rankers already and even if both suck ass at fighting there would be a winner

[jade ocean]

They also just got to Rank B

Or something idk

Also I feel like a lot of the main characters treat the Z-A royale as more of a side thing

So maybe that's another factor

[indigo mango]

only thing i can think of is that they just refused to let any promotion matches happen for B rank

[jade ocean]

They don't really focus much on actually getting shit done

I also want to note that the people we fight just stand around doing nothing for most of the night

And maybe walk around like a tiny bit

[wispy kernel]

I don’t remember ever seeing anybody that was Rank B in the ZA Royale but maybe I’m just stupid

[jade ocean]

You definitely fight a few in the Z-A Royale

[indigo mango]

sicne the whole rank a thing is just a trick to find the strongest and sicne they dont want to just get anyone, they might have just cheesed it and waited till they see 2 really good B rankers and then have them fight

[wispy kernel]

damn

[jade ocean]

That said, I never got quests to beat enough B rank trainers done

It's so much less common than C or D rank

I think canonically the answer would be that most of them had only just gotten to B rank

[indigo mango]

just feels weird

consdiering how many partake, someone should have become rank A pretty much on day 2

[jade ocean]

Also let us not forget that one of the B rank mfs has an extremely secret identity and doesn't seem fond of actually looking for his opponents

Bro just stands there and hopes that their opponent knows a detective

Or that Mable used to work for Team Flare

[indigo mango]

like even if you put up 100 people who are bad at pokemon battles together, there will be a winner and if most fighs happen closely, it wouldnt take long, i thought that maybe to reach Rank A you gotta fight a specific person rather then doing a promotion match, that would have made sense how nobody reached A yet

[jade ocean]

I do think a major thing is that most trainers don't grind the Z-A royale 24/7

They actually do other shit in their lives

[desert current]

They say that they're looking for the strongest Mega Evolution user, and most of the trainers in the royale don't use Mega Evolution until the post game... So maybe it is just rigged.

[jade ocean]

Like streaming

Or hosting tournaments

Or extortion

Or punching walls

[indigo mango]

ye i mentioned that earlier

[indigo mango]

.

they might just not post any promtion matches for b ranks lul

[desert current]

ah, okay

[indigo mango]

and just wait till they find 2 good ones and then just say "uhh promtion match time"

totally not rigged time

[tepid moss]

Of course not. Battle zones are only active at night

[jade ocean]

12/7

Or something

Idk

When does the Z-A royale start does anyone pay attention to exact numbers of the in game time

[lime void]

There’s no in game clock, there’s only day and night

[indigo mango]

kinda wild tho so many just grind all night, like the MC is just a robot but the npcs should sleep, i just finished a quest to help someone find a Hotel to live in and then they mention that its too expnsive but their pokemon likes it so to pay rent they will just do the AZ Royal at Night. like damn

[lime void]

Though it’s also worth mentioning that you can have a promotion match during the day, as long as you have a ticket

[jade ocean]

BTW I only recently learnt you can fast travel out of buildings

Am I an idiot?

[indigo mango]

yes

[jade ocean]

In my defence you usually can't

I think

Well either that or I'm giga idiot

[tepid moss]

In most games I've played, yeah, you can't

[indigo mango]

if fast travels a thing i always use it, so i only find out if you cant after i tried it

[jade ocean]

Well at least it's a less major blunder than not knowing what Plus Moves are when the game directly explains it

Like what I've seen a shockingly high number of content creators do

[indigo mango]

imagine reading

im sure there are a bunch who also dont know about the stone emporeon

[tepid moss]

Why would I want to read? I'm playing a pokemon game!

[lime void]

There’s a stone statue of a new eeveelution

[indigo mango]

hey i can read, i never said i can spell

yesterday watched a "catch pokemon then fight" kinda video with a bunch of yters in ZA and all exept one was finished with the game and saying how they did the whole thing...but i kept getting annoyed whenever they opend the map cause all of their maps was just entirely filled with Side Quest Popups

[harsh oasis]

Lol, my friend is exactly that and she drives me up a wall

No areas complete

Hardly any side quest done

[indigo mango]

eh areas i dont really complete either, i already know the mons and i dont much care about finishing the dex

but i do wanna experience what the game has and see it all

[lime void]

It will never cease to amaze me when people play a game but then don’t want to do anything in the game

[harsh oasis]

That's the thing tho. I get if you don't wanna catch that skarmory or starmie or stuff

But how do you just not explore a wild zone and catch a bunch of stuff

Boggles my mind

[indigo mango]

ah like nothing ?

i do catch what i see whenever i go in

cause plenty quests want mons

i just dont bother finding everything

[harsh oasis]

She caught like, a couple things in each. And Im not certain but I think she may have literally never visited a couple of the zones

She has beaten the story

[indigo mango]

also irks me when i watch someone play ZA and they are low on moeny and complain about it...like bruh i am 1mil pokecoins and i didnt even really grind it, i just did the royal whenever i felt like it and thats a casual 100k a night without rushing

[harsh oasis]

Lol

Getting the shiny charm made me rich, then buying a bunch of clothes made me broke again

[indigo mango]

i had enough moeny to pay all of taunies dept while i was visiting Corbeu

[harsh oasis]

Lmao

[lime void]

It would be hilarious if the game actually let you pay off the debt in full if you had the money

[harsh oasis]

They should've made it 100mil or something and just let you pay it if you're crazy

[storm bone]

noy my charactezr but guys the lil gen 5 pokestar studio robots is referenced in a tshirt

[harsh oasis]

It is!

Too bad I kind of hate that top combo or else I would wear it

[radiant otter]

i’ve done 56 bench resets for fennekin and in that time i have found 2 swablu and a bagon

now i have this sick ass altaria

[tepid moss]

Ngl, I prefer the regular color, but that's still a cool shiny

[indigo mango]

for the quest one? or when is the wild one

[radiant otter]

wild one in zone 18

[indigo mango]

ah

[radiant otter]

i'm not a huge fan of the color yellow in general but i love this shiny

[indigo mango]

i used chespin when i started my game but dumped forakie and fennekin in the box right away lul

[radiant otter]

i would've loved to use greninja on my first playthrough but i just couldnt find the quest froakie

[indigo mango]

its a blue ! symbol

[radiant otter]

well then i'm blind lol

[indigo mango]

like your gonna find it just by doing the quests

[radiant otter]

thats what i thought when i got chespin and fennekin very quickly

now i know for next time tho

[indigo mango]

funfact been watching MandJTV and he rarely does sidequests so he found the froakie one very late when he already had the rotom gldie..and sicne he doesnt know about rolling, he thought that froakie must be a late side quest sicne he couldnt do the quest without the glide lul

[tepid moss]

Wait, what about rolling?

[jade ocean]

Man DJ TV

[jade ocean]

You're meant to do the Froakie sidequest using rolls

But MandJTV found the quest after getting Glide, and thus assumed that Glide was needed for it

Because he forgot you can just roll

I really just typod quest as wuest twice in a row, huh?

[tepid moss]

I found it before getting glide, but I couldn't figure out how to clear it without

[jade ocean]

Damn

Yeah no you can use roll at most of the areas where it looks like you'd need glide

I know this because I did Froakie's quest soon after it popped up

I did Fennekin's quest first, then Froakie's, then Chespin's

[tepid moss]

I never think to roll

[indigo mango]

i only ever rolled during the parkour, enevr to dodge lul

[jade ocean]

I know I used roll for a few Alpha fights

[indigo mango]

rolling also gives you distants and then you glide, so i like to jump from one building to the next

[jade ocean]

Mainly Magikarp, since Hydro Pump cannot be strafed

And I didn't think to hide behind the tree

[tepid moss]

Oh man, that hydro pump

[jade ocean]

The most threatening a Magikarp has ever been

[indigo mango]

never seen it use that

[tepid moss]

I have learned much on this day

[jade ocean]

Roll->Glide doesn't work well if where you're jumping is at a similar elevation as you

But it is better if where you're jumping is at a lower elevation

[tepid moss]

Makes sense

[radiant otter]

well i have now found my 3rd shiny swablu trying to go for fennekin

in 77 bench resets

and only half of those spawn swablu because it's day only

i guess i’m cursed

[stone marsh]

This game sucks

[solemn oak]

I’m gonna cry if I keep shiny hunting furfrou

[stone marsh]

Isn't the wild zone far enough away that yo7 can spwan and despawn them without going in?

It saves the last 10 shinies so abuse it

[willow kelp]

But that is a great shiny 😅

[stone marsh]

That's how I got my froakie

[stone marsh]

I have like 2 of eacg

I don't need more

[willow kelp]

Yeah that's true

[stone marsh]

Also if there's a bench near that wild zone within I think 50 units of it yo7 can bench hunt

First off

Switch ir switch 2

[stone marsh]

Yo7 keep track?

Turbo go brrr

[willow kelp]

I'm going back to the shiny alpha gastly hunt

And a shiny Charmander

[stone marsh]

I have I've half a box from zone 16 alone

Or os fennekin 19?

Whatever one that is

[radiant otter]

yeah i’m not a huge fan of afk farming shinies

• i like to see the shiny swablu that appear every 4 resets

[woeful flume]

bro that shalpha gastly hunt is a curse

gl with it

[stone marsh]

Fun fact

I'm at work now

So it's going to keep going until the controller dies

[dapper nymph]

Where would I get a Numel? Like, which Wild Zone?

[woeful flume]

8

[willow kelp]

Yeah, haven't seen a shiny in that zone since my second gastly message

[dapper nymph]

Thanks! I needed one to evolve into Camerupt for my battle against Canari! I remembered that I received the Cameruptite Mega Stone earlier, and knew Camerupt was Ground-Type, so that's why I asked.

[radiant otter]

i love shiny hunting fennekin.

[harsh oasis]

I accidentally took a perfect YouTube thumbnail

[daring finch]

Can YOU spot the SHINY POKEMON IN LEGENDS ZA!?!?

[lime void]

That video would be more apt for Scarlet and Violet, since they don’t have the shiny noise

[daring finch]

Thats not how clickbait works

Its supposed to not make sense

[harsh oasis]

More like "ARE LEGENDS ZA SHINIES TOO OP!!???!!!???"

[daring finch]

More like

[lime void]

Well EXCUUUUUSE me for wanting to make a good YouTube video instead of lying about the YouTube video in my title

[daring finch]

"THIS NEW SHINY HUNTING METHOD IS INSANE!?!?!?"

[daring finch]

Youre not excused

Money before quality

[harsh oasis]

We're just trying to be funny lol

Not actually titling a video

[daring finch]

DONT LET SPINDA GET MEGA EVOLVED

[lime void]

Game Freak making most of the switch Pokémon games:

[harsh oasis]

Lol

[lime void]

And I’m just playing along with the joke

[harsh oasis]

Got this guy too

[harsh oasis]

Oh, okay

[daring finch]

I saw this shot once

Also can yall tell what inspired my outfit?

[willow kelp]

Damn I need to up my photo game

[daring finch]

Its very recent I learned how to transfer pics from switch to phone

[willow kelp]

With switch 2?

[daring finch]

Yes

You can use the nintendo app

[willow kelp]

Yeah, heard it got a lot easier

[daring finch]

Its basically just sending

[radiant otter]

theres a setting to make it automatic

[daring finch]

Nooo being older than all of us combined youre not getting my cookie

Also his mega is what inspired my outfit

[forest egret]

Gramper

[harsh oasis]

Oh yeah forgot to show this one off

[hazy knot]

Woag..

[radiant otter]

such a beautiful shiny

[harsh oasis]

Yoo

Nice

[radiant otter]

wasnt what i was intially going for but a shiny is a shiny

[woeful flume]

i love noibat and noiverns shiny I do kinda wish noivern kept noibats shiny cause its peak

[desert current]

I love it when trainer's outfits match their Pokemon.

(Which is ironic because my character's outfit doesn't. 💀 )

[sturdy flower]

how long did you teleport for

[radiant otter]

like 10 minutes with charm

maybe less

[sturdy flower]

i don't have the charm

i don't wanna get ittt fuck

1000 battles is horrible I don't have the patience for it

[radiant otter]

it’s not very fun

i grinded out my last 120 in about 90 minutes with youtube on the side

if you don’t pay much attention to it it’s not terrible

[noble ice]

Anyone who could help me evolve my Haunter

[solemn oak]

This is my bench set up

lol

[worn cobalt]

What's this set up supposed to accomplish?

Like, is it for shiny hunting?

[sturdy flower]

I'm losing my fucking mind

i found a shiny fletchling but I didn't realize where it was until it was too late

so i saved when it was already flying away to despawn

now everytime i reload the game i have like, not even two seconds to try and catch it

IF it goes towards me

and I CAN'T FUCKING CATCH IT

[worn cobalt]

Now I wanna find a shiny fletchling just to give you.

[sturdy flower]

if i fast travel does it go back to it's regular spawn

or not

am i just stuck in purgatory

[worn cobalt]

I think I once fast traveled to an area, and I think I landed, scared a pidgey that immediately despawned, and I think it was shiny.

[ionic pilot]

game is based, im a dude wearin a skirt

[sturdy flower]

you know what I'm sick and tired of this thing

I don't even want a shiny fletchling

I'm just salty that i can't catch a shiny

[worn cobalt]

I feel for you.

[ionic pilot]

could be worse, i found a shiny weezing once (cant rember which game, was pre switch tho), it proceeded to use explode directly after it escaped my ultra ball

[solemn oak]

Yup

[worn cobalt]

I have irl stuff I'm mad about, so I'm just letting my game afk hunt Amaura while trying to calm down.

[solemn oak]

I’m just hunting alteria

Or swablu

[ionic pilot]

i caught a swablu at the start of the game, first time encountering one so early on

[solemn oak]

Maybe Fennekin if I get lucky yk

[worn cobalt]

I wanna shiny and alpha hunt every mon so I can perfect the pokedex. But probably going to forget partway through.

[harsh oasis]

Shiny and alpha, or shiny alpha?

Because one of those is a madman's quest

[sturdy flower]

I FUCKING GOT IT

HOLY SHIT IT WAS SO HARD

[worn cobalt]

Shiny and alpha, not shalpha hunt. I'm not that crazy.

[sturdy flower]

i fast traveled and it did in fact respawn on the ground

[harsh oasis]

Congrats!

[harsh oasis]

Thank god

[sturdy flower]

but it was still insanely skittish so i had to get close enough to actually catch it but not enough to make it fly away

[worn cobalt]

Though I do want a Shalpha Beldum. I need shiny alpha metagross that's big enough to sit on.

[sturdy flower]

goddd finally i can stop hunting that stupid bird

all that fuss for a level 9 shiny fletchling

[harsh oasis]

I had my own bird not too long ago

[sturdy flower]

i just hope that the 20ish resets spawned some shinies in zone 20

please

[worn cobalt]

tbf it sounds like a dumb thing when you phrase it like that.

[harsh oasis]

Shiny hunting is a dumb thing

But we all still do it

[sturdy flower]

this fuckass bird was just standing there on the road. why was it there

stay in a wild zone dude

[worn cobalt]

It just be doin bird things.

[harsh oasis]

Birds and monkeys are allowed on the roads

[worn cobalt]

I don't know monkeys are allowed on the roads where I live, but then again, monkeys don't natively live where I live, so there's that.

[sturdy flower]

no shinies spawned in zone 20.

[harsh oasis]

Damn

[radiant otter]

still need this?

[sturdy flower]

jesus christ mega alpha scolipede is enormous

[noble ice]

Yes actually

[sturdy flower]

and so is mega alpha froslass

they genuinely don't fit on screen when they're following you

[radiant otter]

code?

[noble ice]

||1234_1234||

[harsh oasis]

It really is, I love it

I shiny hunted that alpha whirlipede specifically for the huge scolipede

It honestly might be my favourite pokemon in this dex

[sturdy flower]

i honestly probably won't shiny hunt it because I'm not sure i like the shiny more than the regular

for now I'm happy with my normal alpha

[solemn oak]

I’m pissed

[radiant otter]

is it really so much to ask for a shiny fennekin?

[solemn oak]

I was trying to get shiny swablu

[radiant otter]

you want one?

[radiant otter]

i have 6

[solemn oak]

Nah I don’t do online

[radiant otter]

good luck on your hunt for swablu

[solemn oak]

Plus what’s the point of a shiny if you don’t work for it am I right

That’s the best part

[radiant otter]

yeah fair enough

[solemn oak]

I certainly don’t love shiny carchomp for the color change I’ll tell you that

I will say tho

Noivern is a pretty damn good pokemon

Fucking he’ll

I got another shiny weedle

Alright people time to name the shinies

Weedle and noivern edition

[radiant otter]

pickles the noivern

he remind me of a pickle for some reason

[solemn oak]

Alright pickle

And the weedle

[radiant otter]

someone else got that

[solemn oak]

I’m going to do something illegal

Istg

Who wants to name him

Scratch that

Fried pickle

[gray robin]

can someone help me evolve my haunter i want to keep my ot

[harsh oasis]

Yeah sure

Code 1524 1292

[civic cave]

the meme wild zone

[worn cobalt]

Still shiny hunting amaura.

[harsh oasis]

Or not I guess

[worn cobalt]

well, you tried.

[gray robin]

sry didn't see are you still willing

[harsh oasis]

Yes

[gray robin]

tysm

[harsh oasis]

[worn cobalt]

So, major spoiler warning for the game, but ||I think Mega Floette isn't a normal break from the "final stage" rule, but not for the reason you think. As indicated by both appearance and the mega dex, the flower is what mega evolves, not Floette. Floette can use the power, but it's the flower that is doing the mega evolving (which is why you fight it when it fuses with Ange.)||

Just my two cents.

Back to shunting Amaura.

[frigid island]

Need help trading my alpha shiny machoke to machamp

[desert current]

That's what I've been sayin! XD

||Like there's so much evidence pointing towards the flower being its own entity, it might even be itself a Pokemon.||

[radiant otter]

i gotchu

[jade ocean]

It also literally has 551 BST

Which is more than Urshifu or Ogerpon

||It's a Floette only in name, with its stats resembling Florges' more||

[dire plume]

OMGGGG

295 resets 😮

[daring finch]

Now did you capture it is the question

[dire plume]

You bet :3

[daring finch]

That thing was such a bitch to catch for me lmao 295 resets just to catch it

(Realistically it was like 10-20 ish but I like exagerating)

[dire plume]

My friend is double over-odds rn for it lol

She is PISSED

[daring finch]

I want shony drampa but dont have charm

[dapper nymph]

I got an Inkay, but how do I get it to evolve?

[wispy kernel]

hold your switch upside down

[dire plume]

Get it to level 30, hold your switch upside down, and open the menu and select inkay while keeping the switch upside down

[dapper nymph]

Oh. I had forgotten about the requirement of holding the system upside down.

[willow kelp]

Gotten 3 shiny gastly s, I'm giving up on getting the shalpha

Is there someone available to trade evo my haunter?

[harsh oasis]

Yeah sure

If you still need it

I have a shiny haunter of my own so it'll be collateral

[harsh oasis]

You know... I didn't get what people were talking about when they said this. So I just looked at mega raichu x and y again to try and figure out what people were talking about and...

My god y really is just pikachu

Well

That was unexpected

I traded on no trade code just for fun

To see if it would even work

And it did, so I decided to give away one of my shiny pidgeys, and without checking....

I got a shiny french roserade

It has regular stats and level so I don't think it's hacked

Weird

[tired drum]

My mega list

[plucky escarp]

guessing this isnt based on how good they are in battle

[tired drum]

My favs in order

[woeful flume]

it is described to be more like pikachu

[tired drum]

Unfortunately

[woeful flume]

its truly pokemons way of giving pikachu a mega

[harsh oasis]

Mine

[willow kelp]

Still available? just got home

[harsh oasis]

Sweet, code 1524 1292, you're looking for Alexandra

I'll trade my haunter too and we can trade back

[willow kelp]

Yeah great

Searching rn

Sorry misclicked 🙈

[harsh oasis]

Lol

It's fine

[willow kelp]

Hmmm this is taking some time

[harsh oasis]

Yeah idk

[willow kelp]

You got error aswell?

[harsh oasis]

Nah just communicating

But it went thru

[willow kelp]

There it goes, thanks a lot, you need anything else to trade?

[harsh oasis]

Nah I'm good

[willow kelp]

Great, thanks and have a good day!

[harsh oasis]

NP, you too

Oh weirddd

They gave mega gengar hands and feet

I guess so it can float in the air and not look silly

[willow kelp]

Yeah the feet are really weird

[woeful flume]

mega gengar has always had hands and feet

they just arent shown a whole lot

[harsh oasis]

Has it?

I remember it's hands being flat bottomed

Damn

I guess it has

[woeful flume]

yep

[harsh oasis]

Yeah I saw that

[woeful flume]

it doesnt need to stay underground cause i dont like the feet

[harsh oasis]

Idk how I forgot

Lol

[opaque osprey]

Just realise that GF is quite specific to give a Spewpa that evolve to Marine pattern Vivillion.

Wonder that is supposed to be a teaser referencing the next main line Pokémon game

[tepid flame]

Is there still no official artwork for the new Megas

[harsh oasis]

I don't think so

the pokemon website still just has renders

Btw, has anyone gone over the mega stones we see in the dlc trailer? Are they all ones we know of already except for raichu? I know we have leaks but I would rather avoid them

[robust wren]

I think the Mega Stones were randomly designed at this point

Though looking at them again, I can see a connection between some of the stones and the leaked Megas. But mum will be the word on that until more info is officially revealed, at least without spoilers blocked

[jade ocean]

I feel like 80% of people guessed ||Crabominable|| correctly

Except for the ones on unhealthy levels of copium ofc

||Mega Crabominable is gonna be the first Pokemon to do 10 Crabillion damage||

[gray robin]

i got an alpha Kadabra can someone help me evolve it

[robust wren]

I do feel bad for ||all the people who thought the green-red one was Flygon, when it's instead Scovillain of all things.||

||the fact that some Pokemon are even getting second Megas also means color isn't 100 percent reliable to indicate what stone belongs to what Pokemon, given the Charizardite X takes Megazard X's colors rather than just Zards.||

[jade ocean]

OK, so anyone who is paying attention to the game probably knows that a few Pokemon have some kind of bulk increase

Alphas, ||the solo Zydog and Zygarde fights and the Rogue Mega Gauntlet|| have multiplied HP

And the Rogue Megas and ||The 3 Phase Zygarde|| seem to have both magnified HP and Damage Reduction

The latter being especially the case when not using Plus Moves vs the Megas in particular

My question is, does anyone know what these exact numbers are?

[woeful flume]

best way to test that would be using the same attacks on an alpha pokemon and regular that are around the same level like whirlipede or something

[jade ocean]

I don't want to take out the measuring tape though

Also, I get the impression that the multiplier is absolutely gargantuan

Considering how ||Zygarde 50% can easily tank at least 1 Ice move||

[desert current]

I know Alphas are guaranteed to have max HP evs, not sure about the rest.

[jade ocean]

If it was only HP EVs, Alpha Pyroar would get instantly turned into paste by Level 100 Emboar Close Combat

Like what is its level? Like, 50 or 60?

I definitely remember Pyroar sometimes being able to tank my very overleveled Mega Emboar's CC

Though I cannot remember if it was Level 100 yet

Yeah no it'd have been able to kill 6-7 Alpha Pyroars with that Close Combat

Alphas do have crazy HP multipliers

Maybe like, 10× HP?

Though it may vary, I'm not sure

[uncut vigil]

i been here for what feels like years

[tepid moss]

Just a little more~

[uncut vigil]

i should had been got it but i forgot to save and went from 900 back down to 600

😭

[dapper nymph]

I was watching TerminalMontage’s Mega Battle Royale, and it practically PREDICTED Rogue Mega Evolution! None of them had a Trainer, and they were in pain when they initially Mega Evolved!

[jade ocean]

They're

They're copying the dex entries

It's literally just the dex entries foreshadowing Rogue Mega Evolution

Or at least, the linking of these dex entries being fucked up and a lack of a strong bond between Trainer and Pokemon

Because realistically whoever the hell's making these dex entries is probably just catching the Pokemon, shoving Mega Stones onto them instantly and Mega Evolving them

[storm bone]

There’s auto save that can’t be turned off how did you manage to not get a save ?

[worn cobalt]

Still shunting amaura.

[harsh oasis]

started soft reset hunting the wild fennekin

It'd be incredibly funny if i got it faster than the other guy who was hunting fennekin

[robust wren]

I wonder if Mega Ray would still be the winner or if the Hydrogen Bomb Zygarde would be the new clear winner

[dusty forum]

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[robust wren]

Good as Gold would genuinely turn Banana Feet into a dangerous setup sweeper due to how much counterplay that prevents

Not quite the spin blocker that Gholdengo is due to not being immune to Rapid Spin, but still very dangerous

[worn cobalt]

Kinda wanna shiny hunt skarmory to see what mega skarmory looks like shiny, but... that hunt would be so painful!

[wispy kernel]

It’s pretty much just regular shiny skarmory which is honestly kinda strange to me

me personally I wouldve made it like bronze or somethin

[harsh oasis]

Shiny Skarmory is bronze

at least to me

And tbh, peak shiny already. I don't know if I would like it better any other way

[brittle storm]

Hey guys is someone available for trade back with me ?

[sturdy flower]

can you explain a bit how you're hunting it

are you just staying close to it, saving and resetting or is there a specific setup

[harsh oasis]

You kill it, catch it, scare it, or otherwise despawn it and hang around right next to where it spawns so that your character is facing it (just so reloading the save will have you facing the right way), save right before it respawns, then reload until it spawns as a shiny

That particular fennekin I happen to know takes a minute to respawn

so save at something like 58s

[sturdy flower]

ok so i just make it despawn, set a timer and right before it runs out i save

and i keep reloading

[harsh oasis]

Yep

[sturdy flower]

alr great

ok so, i actually don't think i'll be doing it

without the charm it takes 22 hours for 1:1 odds

with the charm it's 5

on the other hand, getting the charm is horrible

i'm still at research level 22, not even close

[harsh oasis]

I mean, I can'tt imagine bench is any better

Maybe running back and forth is faster but I haven't looked into it

[sturdy flower]

no this method is the best

but i need the charm

22 hours is entirely too much

[harsh oasis]

True!

If it makes you feel any better; the trainer battles are entirely the worst part

[sturdy flower]

it doesn't

i'm dreading that part

i'm at like, 160/1000

[harsh oasis]

Oh ouch

What rank are you?

[sturdy flower]

oh i've finished the game several hours ago

[harsh oasis]

Wait I guess that's a dumb question

Yeah

You have zone 18 so you have to be at least... B I think

But Infinite Royale is a decent way to grind out battles

[sturdy flower]

well i gotta do it anyway for the story quests

[harsh oasis]

Get a dragonite with extreme speed and some other fast moves just in case and just go

[sturdy flower]

to get access to the the legendary quests

wait do online battles count too

[harsh oasis]

True but it keep giving you rewards forvever

[harsh oasis]

I don't think so

I think that'd be slower even if it did

if you really want to do it brainless tho

[sturdy flower]

well i prefer being slightly slower if it means i can avoid doing the same shit over and over

the optimal strategy is that one restaurant fight

it's three fights at once and they're super easy

but that's so repetitive

[harsh oasis]

I checked, and online doesn't count

[sturdy flower]

damn

[harsh oasis]

Yeah, you either do the brainless one or the interesting one

I did the restaurant cause I could watch stuff while I was doing it

So it wasn't really lost time

[desert current]

its gonna be repetitive no matter what sooo....

[finite totem]

finally beat game

[desert current]

Doing the Battle Zones is the best way to make money, so that's why I figured might as well just do that instead of the "faster" restaurant method.

[harsh oasis]

I actually don't know if the restaurant is faster but I'm on switch 1 so that could have affected my numbers

[unborn elm]

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