pokemon-winds-waves

[harsh oasis]

Oh that counts as slowking?

Makes sense

Just not something I would have thought about

Can I just say, [Main Story Spoilers] ||The fact that they forced us into that specific wish is so annoying to me. Like if you weren't going to give me a choice just don't give me a choice. The whole game screams in your face that wild zones are, at best, poorly thought out & implemented. Just throwing that aside in favour of "tra la la we love battling" is.. It actually made me like the story a sa whole less||

[brazen jetty]

can I request someone that has PLZA to make a screenshot of a Furfrou-Heart I need one as a ref for my sprite and i dont own za

[harsh oasis]

What kind of angle are you looking for?

[brazen jetty]

uh hold on

a bit like a gen 4/5 sprite

at this kind of angle

[harsh oasis]

Best I could do is... Not great sorry

Maybe someone else can get better

[dapper nymph]

I've been wondering, where can I style Furfrou? (Not that I have one rn.)

[harsh oasis]

It's part of a sidequest

I think it becomes available once you can actually get furfrou

I forget which wz that is

[dapper nymph]

Also, it seems that some of the Colorful Screws are out of my reach. It seems like the game wants me to jump off the edge of a scaffold, but I can't reach the other side.

[harsh oasis]

Try rolling

But some might not be available right away :3

[brazen jetty]

That might be good
either top right or bottom riught

[desert current]

How far in the game are you?

[dapper nymph]

Just unlocked Side Quests.

[desert current]

I see... Yeah don't worry, you unlock a new ability later on (I don't know if it counts as spoilers, because it was shown in the trailers a few times).

[rustic jacinth]

might be the easiest pokedex ive completed

now i just gotta get a shiny charm

should be simple

[harsh oasis]

Good luck

It definitely didn't almost double my playtime

[robust wren]

Have there been any particularly crazy Pokedex entries this game? Stuff like the famous "There's no escaping it. Give up." Or Magcargos hotter than the sun?

[dapper nymph]

Where do I buy Quick Balls?

[jade ocean]

Cancer Beam 🔥

(It isn't phrased that way but like, cancer beam)

[rustic jacinth]

there's a spot on the right of the city called the Pokeball Emporium

[harsh oasis]

GameFreak seems to like the number 18,000*F since Mega ||Pyroar|| also hits that temp

[rustic jacinth]

theyre kinda costly (1,000 per quick ball) but its worth it imo

babey

[wispy kraken]

Strange that Im only a few points away from the shiny charm. But the tasks I got left won’t add up to the points I need. I imagine there will be a final thing

[harsh oasis]

Quite a few tasks have more and more levels

You end up having 5 iterations of each task to catch each type

50 of each iirc

That makes 2 shiny venipedes in the hunt for the shalpha whirlipede

[spare roost]

the task you HAVE to complete to get the shiny charm is || 1000 trainer battles|| that gives 2000 points

without it, completing all other tasks has you 100 off max level

[wispy kraken]

Ah that makes sense thanks

[harsh oasis]

Oh that's what you meant

[storm bone]

I counted and there are 40 final stage pokemon in gen 6
with za there are 11 , eternal flower floette is a special case so let's round it to 10 this mean that only 1/4 of the generation got a mega evolution. However gen 6 +5 got the majority of new megas , more then half meaning that these gen were prioritised

[spare roost]

people saw the outrage for skipping Gen 5

so they fixed it

[daring finch]

Took 2 pics

I wish I could get the mega in the frame

[lime void]

Don’t forget that Gen 5 was cheated for megas in Gen 6, so they also had to make up for that

[robust wren]

Mega Audino counts as -1 Megas for Gen 5 in my eyes

[storm bone]

unfortunately we use the absolute value so 7 gen 5 megas it is now

[lime void]

Friendly reminder that Gen 5 still has less megas then Gen 1 did in X & Y

[compact saffron]

most of the megas were gen 1s

charizard. blastoise, venusaur, alakazam, aerodactyl

[robust wren]

2 Charizard and Mewtwo, even

[compact saffron]

pinsir was so underwhelming.

[robust wren]

Pinsir was great

Aerilate Return was fun as hell

[lime void]

Kanto got 12 megas in X and Y:
Venusaur
Charizard X
Charizard Y
Blastoise
Alakazam
Gengar
Kangaskhan
Pinsir
Gyarados
Aerodactyl
Mewtwo X
Mewtwo Y

[compact saffron]

gengar was my favourite and im not a ghost type fan.

I'm a water warrior

alakazam looks like a wise sage that lives like a hermit on the mountain

[robust wren]

You think Gamefreak knew the hell they were unleashing when they gave Mega Gengar Shadow Tag of all abilities?

It was already going to be a super powerful Mega, that ability was just complete overkill

[compact saffron]

mega alakazam with the proper nature was disgusting

still is in ZA.

Mega feraligatr had such potential, design wise. typing, they chose well. but they fell flat on their faces with design

[robust wren]

No kidding. It either looks like it's wearing a toilet seat, or it looks like a poorly made Totodile mascot costume with actual Feraligatr's arms getting the Lanky Kong treatment

[compact saffron]

I understand copyrighting, but I would've gone more of a Godzilla 2000 style design.

[robust wren]

Mega Emboar is the best looking of the ZA Starter Megas, and even then it's just "Emboar but more."

My least favorite Megas overall are probably Skarmory and Pyroar

[compact saffron]

my least favourite is skarmory and pyroar as well. you wanna talk laziness in design? look no further.

pyroar - bigger mane

skarmory...turns yellow, slightly larger talons/feathers

[robust wren]

Apparently Mega Pyroar is supposed to look like a kanji for fire, but it just ends up looking like it's copying Swordward

[compact saffron]

mega falinks. they stack, one dons a shield, other has a spike that allegedly looks like a lance

i honestly think they just went - ok we're gonna make these random mons mega.

[daring finch]

Its a good mega

[unborn elm]

Mega falinks gets the pass because what else could they do with a multi Mon Mon?

Megazord was peak ong

https://tenor.com/view/anime-pokemon-cartoon-memes-meme-me-and-the-boys-gif-15480575134699928258

[compact saffron]

oh im not saying its a bad design

[robust wren]

ZA Megas are all just a bunch of high highs and low lows. So much peak, so much trash.

[compact saffron]

mega froslass - lets make it taller

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

mega starmie

[storm bone]

Froslass is cool

Tho some people said it’s a recycled gmax

[compact saffron]

I love froslass as a regular mon

mega ... not so much

[storm bone]

I like their mega a lot

[compact saffron]

and then comes mega drampa

but lets discuss victreebel first. of ALL pokemon, they chose THAT?

[storm bone]

It’s so silly

[compact saffron]

I would've chosen vileplume over victreebel

[robust wren]

Victreebel got the Hoenn Special statline lol

[harsh oasis]

I love almost all of the new megas

[woeful carbon]

I’m in the strategy meeting rn and I’m screaming in agony

Please just turn the phone off

[storm bone]

Same

[lavish oyster]

i know i'mnot the most active ere but ido wonder as i need 3 more item trade evolutions for the pokedex if so meone coudl help me with Spritze, Swirlix and Scyther to their evolved form

[compact saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/hilarious-hey-gif-9959410

[compact saffron]

One thing that irks my soul. wild zone 17. the pyroar pride. The alpha can hit you with earth power on top of buildings out of sight, and if you're in the downstairs part of the zone.,

[royal dagger]

Those damned pyroars

Thems the work of giratina i tells ya

[daring finch]

I got a random shiny vivilon

[compact saffron]

and I just lost the alpha froakie spawn.

I had the pokeball lined up on it, but then the falinks saw me and pushed me

[royal dagger]

Same

Just like an hour ago

[compact saffron]

and just now a shiny fletchling right outside the prism tower just flew away

[royal dagger]

Damn

[compact saffron]

I love and hate my garchomp.

Love it for mega crystal farming

but when it comes to certain obstacles, it doesn't know how to fly over

[opal gull]

https://bsky.app/profile/nerdskull.bsky.social/post/3m463uzlda22z

The Nerdskull (@nerdskull.bsky.social)

The deed is done. I have committed a food crime. I’m not sorry. Blame Pokemon or God.

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Bluesky · Oct 27, 2025, 9:24 AM

[lime void]

I can’t believe this blasphemy. The curry was piled way higher in the game

[charred sage]

I like the "blame pokemon or god" bit

[robust wren]

Now I'm imagining Siebold doing a Gordon Ramsay routine reacting to this thing in game

[willow kelp]

Wished I did, but some have started to grow on me🙈

Can't wait for the new megas for the dlc

[opal gull]

well we know from swsh that pokemon can have unrealistic curry sizes

[charred sage]

in both directions

[plucky escarp]

Someone please, for the love of arceus, serve this to ramsay

[compact saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/raw-gif-798993911785685941

[edgy palm]

I may have over prepared for Canari 😅

[compact saffron]

She seriously annoys me

[edgy palm]

And by that I mean I brought a Garchomp 🤣

[polar root]

Hey anyone willing to help me evolve my shiny machoke today?

[compact saffron]

I can!

I'm playing right now too

[polar root]

Awesome! What’s your username?

[compact saffron]

Check your inbox

I like how we can now trade without requiring friend code exchanges

Also. What's a good moveset for aerodactyl? I have the elemental fangs and rock slide

[harsh oasis]

That seems as good as any

Personally I would make sure it has at least one stab flying move but if you have another flying pokemon, or even just another pokemon that has non-stab flying for coverage it would probably be fine

Has anyone run the numbers on the type composition of this dex?

[compact saffron]

I'm considering removing ice fang and dropping aerial ace

[harsh oasis]

I feel like it's weird

[compact saffron]

But strangely, aerodactyl can't use aerial ace

Despite being a flying type

[harsh oasis]

I wouldn't describe it as much of an ace

But yeah that's strange

Lol

It only gets three flying moves

two of which are tms

and Hurricane isn't viable becasue aero's spatck sucks

[compact saffron]

Hurricane is trash overall

[harsh oasis]

So it gets wing attack, and then fly if you have the tm lol

[compact saffron]

Even in main games, it was god awful

[harsh oasis]

It's certainly not amazing

But I use it for my dragonite

It performs well enough

[compact saffron]

Where does one find fly

I may have missed it

[harsh oasis]

It's a tm so either research or in the open world

I'll look it up

[compact saffron]

Might be a side mission reward

[harsh oasis]

It is!

It's in ||jaune district|| after main mission 18

[compact saffron]

So I did miss it

Le oof

[harsh oasis]

It's Side mission No ||046 Pigeot soaring high||

[compact saffron]

I can't wait to get the earthquake tm. Replace bulldoze on garchomp

An absolute shame that garchomp doesn't learn it naturally

[harsh oasis]

Garchomp is really powerful in this game lol

It doesn't need to learn eq naturally

[compact saffron]

Camerupt is really good too

Alpha gardevoir is busted with the right mint applied

I keep forgetting alakazam is a glass cannon. Can't take hits too well

[fringe wedge]

shiny hunting drampa is like finding a grain of sand in a haystack

[tepid flame]

I was wondering where my man Nerdskull went

Nearly all the cool twitter people moving to Bluesky man it's annoying

[compact saffron]

Is mega aero worth using? I've never played with it

[robust wren]

Not wanting to be a part of Twitter nowadays is pretty understandable honestly

[tepid flame]

Oh I mean for sure

[opal gull]

it's good, ideally mroe would so it would eb easier to mvoe there

[tepid flame]

Mmhmm

[compact saffron]

My team

[opal gull]

better than accidentally using it when you dont mean to on wrong mon

[compact saffron]

you still gotta turn the switch upside down to get malamar? diabolical

[radiant otter]

aurorus = ball knower

[opal gull]

moreover it only works in handheld and with external controllers disconnected

should really work holding pro controller upside down smh

[compact saffron]

wot

[robust wren]

Malamar really got screwed over by the Switch generation, huh? First its evolution method is made even more inconvenient, then it gets a Mega that's absolute trash statswise

[opal gull]

saw some suggestions of abilities that could still make it usable but tis underwhelming as is yeah seemed def like they were gonna make it a special attacker

[robust wren]

Glalie ass stat spread

[harsh oasis]

I still don't get why people think inkay's evolution method is inconvenient

You do it once, maybe twice,

And it's not an inconvenience to undock your switch for a second

Flipping your device is fun even

[robust wren]

It's the evolution equivalent of attending a meeting that could have been an email

It could have been just flipping the controller upside down cause it has gyro compatibility

But they made it more extraneous when you just wanna sit down and not get up for a while

[harsh oasis]

Sure, it could have been, but you cannot convince me that it's meeting levels. It's an email that could have been a text

[harsh oasis]

Then don't evolve your inkay right then? Again you do it once

An inconvenience is the 999 shard cap

Cause it forces you to stop your flow to fast travel and then fast travel back just to not waste time

I do completely agree that mega malamar is lackluster though

Many of the megas old and new are because there's no abilities

[plucky escarp]

I hope malamar gets a cool ability

[harsh oasis]

Me too

[plucky escarp]

But like outside of something entirely new, what could it get

[compact saffron]

a better stat spread

[plucky escarp]

Contrary is its defining feature in battle

[harsh oasis]

I don't know many abilities so idk lol

I'm just holding out for steelworker Mega scolipede

Or corrosive maybe idk

Or whatever that ability is called

[plucky escarp]

The salazzle one?

[harsh oasis]

The one that hits steel types

[plucky escarp]

Yeah, one and the same!

Cool ability

[harsh oasis]

Very cool

Scolipede doesn't really need it what with eq tm

But it'd be cool

[wispy kernel]

unfortunately it only lets you poison steel types

it doesnt let poison types hit steel types

[harsh oasis]

Damn

Would still be neat

I ran toxic on my scolipede for a while

[wispy kernel]

Victreebel is likely getting it I feel

[harsh oasis]

Mm true

I'm okay with that since I actually want steelworker for scolipede

[compact saffron]

what is even the point of mega scolipede

[harsh oasis]

What do you mean?

It's cool?

[compact saffron]

its a slow moving, hard hitting physical tank

[harsh oasis]

What's your point?

[compact saffron]

it feels, to me, like one of the random mons they picked off the shelf

[robust wren]

Scolipede was a decently popular Gen 5 mon

[compact saffron]

raichu deserved the mega upgrade...but I'm not sure why the x y megas.

[robust wren]

Early game bug that had actually usable stats

And a really cool design

[harsh oasis]

Why are any pokemon picked for megas? (rhetorical)

Cause they wanted to

[tepid flame]

Wait how do you evolve Inkay now anyway

[harsh oasis]

Flip your switch, click on the inkay

[robust wren]

TBF I'm not entirely convinced they wanted to Mega Evolve Pyroar with how little effort they put into it

[tepid flame]

Oh my god lmao

[compact saffron]

same with feraligatr

[tepid flame]

Let me flip upside down my totally legitimate Switch yes

[harsh oasis]

Someone wanted it. They made it after all

[robust wren]

Feraligatr had effort put into it, it was just misdirected

[tepid flame]

Yeah Feraligatr sucks but not from the lack of trying

Lack of trying is definitely Pyroar's

Maybe Meganium?

[harsh oasis]

Feraligatr is poor execution, while pyroar is poor concept imo

[tepid flame]

I love Meganium too much to hate even the dull mega lmao

[harsh oasis]

Meganium is solid

[robust wren]

Pyroar just got the Swordward hair and +20 to every stat instead of actually distributing it properly

[harsh oasis]

Shiny mega pyroar is amazing though

[robust wren]

Was just browsing r/Stunfisk and got a decent chuckle out of this

[harsh oasis]

XD

[tepid flame]

God I hate what they did to Banette

It's just completely fucked now if it ever needs to be improved instead if they just made a new evo for it

[robust wren]

Kinda what happened to Malamar too unless its Mega gets an insane ability

[harsh oasis]

That's something I was thinking about a lot today

Quite a few pokemon, some bad, some decent, got locked out of ever permanently getting better

Becasue mega evolution can only apply to the final member of a line

Ope, that's my fourth phase on the shalpha whirlipede, barbaracle

[compact saffron]

floette wants a word with this

[harsh oasis]

Floette is a special lore relevant case

It wouldn't apply to regular pokemon

[robust wren]

Eternal Flower Floette is basically a Florges in a clown car anyway

One BST point off of Florges's BST and can't evolve

[plucky dune]

bro i completed the story for legends za and it is peak

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-wavefront-peak-peak-vr-peak-cinema-gif-11622198235961314216

i think.... this may be the best pokemon game ever (minus legends arceus)

[worn cobalt]

I beat ||Barbacle||!!! My nuzlocke lives!

Now, just gotta beat ||Starmie|| without dying.

[harsh oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/plza-zygarde-pokemon-absolute-cinema-absolute-zinema-gif-7735929323901969761

[plucky dune]

also i totally forgot how much of a goat tyrantrum is like mine is super tanky and super strong physically

[worn cobalt]

Mine died. I'm sad.

[plucky dune]

you playing a nuzlock?

[unborn elm]

Flashbang

[worn cobalt]

Yup.

[unborn elm]

FLASHBANG

[lime void]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[icy flax]

im pissed because mega starmie's pose is meant to be referencing a pose that misty did often in the anime and not a reference to the pose sexy patrick made

[grizzled sierra]

Expiriencing mega starmie just barreling towards you for the first time was horrifying 😂

[indigo mango]

what pose

if you mean this then no

its Starman

[opal gull]

am more annoyed about disconnecting other conrollers

[icy flax]

it can be all 3

[woeful flume]

bruh not only did my friend steal my target 3 TIMES!!! he just got his target and a side target too....

[opal gull]

man if only there were a way to exchange pokemon when that happened

[summer flare]

hunting for shiny venipede no charm, have this neat run where i go from the area 5 sewer/tunnel exit(with the alpha whirl) into a small area(bleu 3) with 2 buneary and 1 bunnelby, bc a Lop would be cool and I didn't hate bunnels shiny

and i got the evil eye rabbit first

smh

oh and an ariados in the tunnel

so yknow

[desert current]

Guys... Am I stupid?

It took a second playthrough of the main story to realize that normal Pokemon can use Plus Moves. I thought only Megas could use them!

I had a sneaking suspicion that I was missing something, so I just went and looked it up and it turns out you CAN use Plus moves at any time by pressing the "+" button... Not by pressing the Right Stick like you do for Mega Evolution. Am I crazy or does the game just never explain it? If it does tell you, I missed it BOTH times playing through the story, and none of the loading screen tips mention how to use them either.

[jade ocean]

It does tell you

[summer flare]

it tells you during the 1st mega fight that it's +

[radiant otter]

it tells you but dw i didnt realize until the postgame

[desert current]

Its extremely easy to miss if you ask me...

[opal gull]

it also says megas or + moves work on rouge megas

[worn cobalt]

Nuzlocke progress: Up to the Rust Syndicate missions, 10 pokemon have fallen (one or two to the stupid ZA Royale!), and learning more about what's mandatory and what's not.

[dapper nymph]

Hey, I just got a Mystical Seed in the Budew Side Quest, and I'm wondering if there's a Side Quest that gives me the Water version of it.

[worn cobalt]

I believe all the "type boosting items" are behind sidequests, although which one feels random.

[autumn shore]

What was everyones final verdict, thoughts, full review on legends za after 100% completion?
Has it finally concluded the story of X and Y?

[wispy kernel]

It took everything about XY and made all of the bad parts good

[dire plume]

FINALLY! This took like 7+ hours of zone teleporting

Over 30 phases to get it

He's so cute 😭🥺

[compact saffron]

Would anyone like a haunter (which will evolve to gengar) to keep? I already have a gengar. No it's not shiny, but has the timid nature.

[royal dagger]

Can't believe I slept on Bois

[compact saffron]

that useless heracross?

[plucky escarp]

it slept in my box my whole playthrough lol

[royal dagger]

It carried me through t-tar

[plucky escarp]

i went with nasty plot aura sphere lucario for that one

nice and simple!

[royal dagger]

In my defense I haven't used a Heracross in a long while

[plucky escarp]

you dont need a defence, nothing wrong with heracross 😛

[royal dagger]

So I figured I didn't want the electric weakness overlap of Hawlucha cause im also rocking Gyrados

[wispy kernel]

Bois carried me not just through the game but the postgame as well

bro basically solo’d the penultimate final boss for me

[compact saffron]

things i trust more than bois:

https://tenor.com/view/jeri-ryan-we-are-borg-seven-of-nine-star-trek-voyager-drone-gif-27024594

[jade ocean]

I had Bois, Lucario and Emboar for that fight

I think I only ended up using one of them

But I can't remember who

[wispy kernel]

Bois cut through Tyranitar like a knife through butter

[jade ocean]

In fact I just had 3 fighting types on my team for the entire game

Type diversity? Who needs that lmao

All I need is 50 million Close Combats

[wispy kernel]

Through the main game I had a Feraligatr, Charizard, Bois, Hawlucha, Ampharos, and Absol

Fairy Types beat my ass

Jacinthe was like the hardest fight for me

[jade ocean]

Thankfully 2 of my Fighting types do not care about Fairy types

I know I swept most of Jacinthe's team with Lucario but I think I ended up swapping to Emboar for Clefable because I wanted to beat Jacinthe's ace with mine, type chart be damned

Type chart doesn't matter with a 30 level lead

Or 20?

Idk it fluctuated between 20 and 30

It's like how people overlevel their starters when they're young except my entire team is overleveled and plenty capable so I didn't get stuck anywhere

[storm bone]

lost the pupitar quest battle , I didn't xp much the pokemon since I figured he just wanted to fight but the game wants me to win. Like I'm sure it's enough liek this :c

[daring finch]

That pupitar must die

over and over and over and over and over and over

[storm bone]

I just xped and won

[storm bone]

got the final rainbow screw

wdym there's ||22 more||!!?

[daring finch]

Zamn

[storm bone]

I found a dialogue that says that tele work exist in the pokemon world

that's surprising

shiny pidgey!!

[compact saffron]

One pokemon I HATE. Stunfisk.

[sturdy flower]

i used it for a little bit but then i realized he was fucking useless

so yes, he's been sleeping in my box since then

[wispy kernel]

Stunfisk more like goatfisk

https://tenor.com/view/stunfisk-gif-20662212

[sturdy flower]

I don't even have my final team yet but it's already all megas

i got the alpha mawile in zone 17

which was fucking hellish because those pyroars kept attacking me even when i was on the roof

[compact saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/smooth-criminal-cat-dance-gif-2379887230739132874

[wispy kernel]

galarian stunfisk is actually peak tho tbh

[compact saffron]

Now you see what I'm saying! Earth power spam!

[wispy kernel]

turning it into a bear trap is genius

[compact saffron]

I'm just hyper traumatized from the battle trains. Stunfisk out speeding me and my friend mons,

DEFINITELY if pyroar had WhatsApp lmfaooo

[wispy kernel]

who would win. every pokemon in wild zone 17 or every pokemon in wild zone 8

[sturdy flower]

it's horrible

[compact saffron]

The pyroar alone in zone 17 would wipe the others

[sturdy flower]

dude i KOd skarmory and he still fled

[wispy kernel]

wild zone 8 has a type advantage though you need to consider

[sturdy flower]

not that i care that much, I'd rather get a shiny so that the mega doesn't look like dogshit

[compact saffron]

If they chain spam their earth power...to hell with type advantage

[wispy kernel]

I like Mega Skarmory ngl

[sturdy flower]

if i ever shiny hunt alpha pyroar I'm just gonna catch the litleo in zone 3

[wispy kernel]

I think the gold looks nice

[sturdy flower]

just afk hunt it

[compact saffron]

Wait, I didn't mean to hit Rick with the @

[sturdy flower]

no fucking way in hell I'm hunting in zone 17

[wispy kernel]

One pokemon that I really want shiny is so bad to shiny hunt in this game that I think zone 17 is the best place to go honestly

[sturdy flower]

which

[wispy kernel]

Chandelure

Litwick only spawns in one room in like the back of the sewers

Lampent spawns at night in Zone 17 in the higher part with the alpha Mawile

and while I could hunt Chandelure directly in Zone 20, theres only two 1 in 67 chances each reset that there even is a Chandelure, let alone a shiny one

[compact saffron]

finally got the fly tm

[sturdy flower]

wait does just 1 pokemon spawn at the center?

[wispy kernel]

2

so I have two 1 in 67 chances of chandelure

[sturdy flower]

that's horrible

i was so excited to shiny hunt alpha gardevoir

[wispy kernel]

thats a lot easier

since its a regular spawn

iirc if you register every pokemon in an area (guaranteed alpha spawns dont matter), every regular encounter in that area is more likely to be alpha iirc

[compact saffron]

im leveling up an alpha houndoom to use with the houndoominite

[sturdy flower]

ralts is

[compact saffron]

alpha gardevoir is busted

[wispy kernel]

gardevoir is too

it just spawns regularly in 20

[compact saffron]

especially if you use the modest mint with it

[sturdy flower]

ohhh shit you're right

well it's still too early for zone 20

I'm currently doing the questline in order to reach rank B

all in a day's work

[compact saffron]

skarmory in zone 17 is nigh impossible to catch

esp with ultra balls, even with the r3 plush

[sturdy flower]

can confirm

I don't have the plush, i should probably get it

[compact saffron]

I have the r3 plushes for all but the money earning

[autumn shore]

You can't shiny hunt your starter mon at the beginning am I right?
Thankfully they are in one of the wild zones.
And speaking of wild encounters is it possible to 100% the pokedex?

[plucky escarp]

in order:
afaik no, static/gift encounters cannot be shiny
yes, very handy
not without multiplayer

[compact saffron]

I was trying to give away a haunter, but nobody responded

[daring finch]

I mean I think most people have gengar already

[compact saffron]

"most"

but not everyone.

granted, you get a guaranteed gengar in the one mission, but this is for those who are yet up to that point

[rustic jacinth]

babey :D

[compact saffron]

I want an eevee, but they never seem to catch

[plucky escarp]

Tbf, haunter is easy to get, and trade codes exist making getting gengar easy too

[rustic jacinth]

or just get gengar through that one ||rust syndicate|| side mission

[plucky escarp]

Indeed

Can be got way earlier than that thouh

[compact saffron]

sigh. this is why i dont offer - people like you two wanna shut it down.

try and do something helpful, and instead it's met with this. every. single. time.

[plucky escarp]

just pointing out the likely reason why nobody responded, but you seem a bit down so il leave you too it

[daring finch]

I was gonna film myself getting gengar but I guess karma got me

Switch online ran out today

I do have a haunter tho so pic time

[river anvil]

you're taking that like very personally, its a common pokemon

i think you have things you need to talk through with someone that arent pokemon related

[compact saffron]

and here come the needless personal attacks.

[river anvil]

yup, the world is out to get you, specifically 🤷‍♀️

unlreated, does anyone need a fletchling

[compact saffron]

"thats a common pokemon" which you can find everywhere.

but sure, let me do it and its a whole shut me off.

[willow kelp]

Damn these battles are taking a long time

400 to go for the shiny charm

[harsh oasis]

The grind consumes all sadly

I'm just happy mine is over

[daring finch]

People dont wanna do 1000 battles

my man I dont wanna smash 1000 mega crystals

[harsh oasis]

0-0 When do you have to smash crystals?

[daring finch]

Its a quest

[harsh oasis]

A side quest?

[daring finch]

Nope mable quest

[harsh oasis]

Oh it's a research task?

[daring finch]

yes

[harsh oasis]

I must have done it accidentally

I just smashed every crystal I came across

[lavish oyster]

Hope someone is willing to help me evolve these 3 Alpha pokemon so I can finish my Pokedex and get me closer to the Alphadex completion.

[orchid shadow]

still need help?

[lavish oyster]

jup and it's t he last 3 for my pokedex so thank you 🙂

[orchid shadow]

nw lemme hop on the game rq

honestly this helps my mable research lmao

[lavish oyster]

jup and love that of bothlegends game the pokedex is big part of the main story 🙂

[orchid shadow]

do you want me to dm you a code or just full send it here

[lavish oyster]

DM feel ssafer so that'd work 🙂

[orchid shadow]

👍

[solar oriole]

https://youtu.be/i7k6ilm5QJw?si=DZx-BqDYj4A_9nz3

[indigo mango]

Toxic King

[willow kelp]

Yeah, doing them in Le wow now so I get some candy's for it aswell

How do you get a galarian slowpoke?

[tepid moss]

There's a side mission where you can trade a regular slowpoke for one

[indigo mango]

same way you get the gakrian slowking

there is an early sidemission for a galarian slowpoke and then a sidemission in the 70-80 that give you both evolution items for it

tho not sure how to get a second galarian slowpoke

[willow kelp]

Yeah I have the evolution items, do was wondering where to get the slowpoke

[indigo mango]

?

the evo items are late game and the slowpoke was an early game quest

just means the quest is still on your map and you havent done it yet

[willow kelp]

Yep

[sturdy flower]

FIRST SHINY

FULL ODDS MANECTRIC IN ELYSIUM LABS

[lime compass]

Nicee

[radiant otter]

one of my all time favorite shinies

[indigo mango]

whys that

[radiant otter]

i love the purple and black flowers

also roserade is just one of my favorite pokemon ever

[compact saffron]

I wish Milotic was available. MY absolute favourite

[radiant otter]

it does have an amazing shiny

[robust wren]

Surprised Milotic wasn't given a mega, honestly

[radiant otter]

i hope it's available in the dlc

[robust wren]

Feels like it's popular enough that it would be considered for one

[compact saffron]

How would milotic look, design wise for a mega?

and I could see a dragon/water typing for it

[radiant otter]

fairy/water also seems like an acceptable typing

design wise i have no clue what they could do

[sturdy flower]

||it will||

[compact saffron]

why is mr rime coming back

[radiant otter]

oh i really hope || amoongus || doesnt get a mega

[compact saffron]

looks like that one uncle you shouldn't sit next to

[sturdy flower]

1. why would it

2. we already know which mons will get one

[radiant otter]

oh

don't spoil those ones then i'll take my chances on guessing

[sturdy flower]

this is the list

[radiant otter]

i wanna click it so bad but i also want to save it

[sturdy flower]

click at your own risk

[compact saffron]

wait

[sturdy flower]

honestly they're not that crazy

[compact saffron]

garchomp? doesn't it already have one..

[sturdy flower]

yeah so do ||absol and Lucario||

they're getting another

[jade ocean]

||Out of these, based purely on species, the most impactful would probably be like, Garchomp, Golisopod or Glimmora||

[sturdy flower]

ggg

[jade ocean]

||There's no chance in hell either Mega Magearna or Mega Bax would be allowed in OU for a single second, and I'm not too confident about how they'd perform in Ubers||

||Golisopod will probably lose its ability, and its base stats are already quite monstrous with a decent type||

||Things can only go up from here||

||Glimmora has potential to become an offensive menace pretty easily, and even bulk increase wouldn't be the end of the world||

||My though process for Garchomp is that they ruined the first Mega Garchomp in pretty much the only way they could have, so surely they won't do it again right?||

[sturdy flower]

how did they ruin it

[jade ocean]

||-Speed||

||And + a giga fuckton of SpA||

||It manages to be good in ZA though, since speed barely matters and it is harder hitting and bulkier than base Garchomp||

||But we all know it'll go back to being jobless in Champions/Gen 10||

[lyric crystal]

Why that dragonite tail so THICK

The king of weird proportions

[robust wren]

||I have a feeling that Glimmora's connection to the Terastalization phenomenon will be reflected in its Mega. Which will probably mean losing one of its types or becoming a new one entirely||

[sturdy flower]

shiny mega Dragonite is beautiful but regular shiny Dragonite is so unbelievably disgusting that it's not even worth hunting it considering that most of the time it won't be mega evolved

[lyric crystal]

Dragons were classically green when Dragonite came out, so it made sense

green shiny enjoyer

I did hope for a split evolution one day that was more dragonair like, but the Mega will have to do

Ability is 100% gonna be Aerialate when we get it in Champions

[spare roost]

I heard it was getting Soul Heart

[sturdy flower]

yeah but it's puke green

[lyric crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/dragonite-pokémon-dragonite-shiny-pokemon-shiny-dragonite-pokémon-shiny-dragonite-gif-26053609

Depends on the game, S/V messed up colors bad. Haven't seen ZA shiny yet

[harsh oasis]

This ain't puke green

It's not like, amazing

But I think it's fine

[grizzled sierra]

Its barney colors 🙂

[harsh oasis]

What's wrong with barney

/j

[grizzled sierra]

Nothing

I had a shiny dragonair in Violet and gave it an eviolite and made my bf absolutely tweak out cause i wouldn't let it evolve

[harsh oasis]

Hehehehe

[grizzled sierra]

I had an all pink team it needed to match 🤷‍♀️

[unborn elm]

I’d just like it better if it was a better green like espeon

https://tenor.com/view/dragonite-pokémon-dragonite-ice-beam-pokémon-ice-beam-dragonite-uses-ice-beam-gif-26053610

Or sum like this idk where this is from but the green looks actually good

[harsh oasis]

They got the colour of the wings wrong ;-;

[unborn elm]

Eh

I don’t mind the wing colors

Both look good

[dusty forum]

Even with how irrelevant speed seems to be

Im wondering if mega steelix would be too slow to use

Ground/steel matches up great inti a lot of what's popular online

Especially with his bulk

But yeah, base 30

[spare roost]

That’s why you have 3 mons

Dump all his attacks and swap

[dusty forum]

That's a point

Is curse any good? How long does the buff last

[harsh oasis]

I think all stat changes last for a while, at least in context of ranked

You basically do it once until you die

[storm bone]

Shiny spritzee

Im at my 4th or 3rd shiny but still no shiny charm wow

[harsh oasis]

wow

I got 4 before the shiny charm (not counting the sheep) although the patrat was technically a phase on a shiny drampa hunt

... That I never finished

Now I'm up to 11 with 6 phases on this stupid shalpha whirlipede ;-;

[sturdy flower]

can't wait to finish the game and start hunting shalpha gardevoir

[harsh oasis]

Shalpha garde not shalpha ralts?

[indigo mango]

Tall aa bish

[desert current]

||WHY ARE THE KALOS MYTHICALS NOT HERE??? They weren't even in the base game! ||

[spare roost]

||regulated to dlc||

[sturdy flower]

garde spawns in zone 20

also i double my chances by hunting garde instead of ralts

i do NOT want gallade

[sturdy flower]

what? yes they are

they're in the base game

[sturdy flower]

where'd you get him

[desert current]

How do you get them then? (it doesn't count if they're not even obtainable)

[indigo mango]

mmh? Alpha Binacle is an always spawn in Wild Zone 6

[storm bone]

What are you guys new mega hopes/predictions for the dlc
To me it’s :
-Typhlosion
-Flygon
-Mismagius
-Serperior
-Samurott
-Talonflame
-Clawitzer
-Hoopa
-Vikavolt
-Toxapex
-Golisopod
-Kommoo
-Crabominable
-Drednaw
-Corviknight
-Thievul
-Polteageist
-Dragapult

[sturdy flower]

guess i never noticed then lol

[sturdy flower]

not to burst your bubble man but again, we know what we're getting

2 of those are right tho

[storm bone]

I Saïd hope/prediction

[sturdy flower]

look up how to get them, I haven't yet so i can't explain it

but there are postgame quests for them

[storm bone]

Oh really ?

[desert current]

No there aren't. I've done every side quest in the game already... And I did look it up, and they're special event quests that aren't available yet.

The only reason people have been able to access them is because they used cheats to activate them using emulators (something most people can't do).

[woeful flume]

ayy shiny dratini

[robust wren]

Mega Toxapex would actually make Smogon go on a riot

[storm bone]

Really ?

[robust wren]

Toxapex is one of the most hated competitive Pokemon out there

[desert current]

Lilligant, Clawitzer, and Aegislash are what I wish for... But the DLC megas have already been leaked so I don't think they will. :(

[storm bone]

Finished the mega dex

[storm bone]

Oh

[woeful flume]

im predicting mega gengar A-Z

[robust wren]

DLC spoilers
||There are actually a couple of Pokemon getting a second Mega||

[lavish eagle]

||yeah!! like my bbg meowstic ❤️ ||

[solar oriole]

Effectively how Speed works:
||Decrease cooldown by a flat number per point of speed above 45, to a minimum of 3 seconds. Specifically 1 second per 33 speed. This means that high speed is effective at spamming the same attack multiple times, and thus can spare more coverage options compared to doubling down on a type matchup.||

[solemn oak]

YAYYYYY

I finally finished my first shiny hunting

[solar oriole]

Nice. And it's for a good looking pokemon too

[solemn oak]

Fr

I was hunting venipede first but then I found a whirlipede spot that was way better for hunting

Btw

[solar oriole]

Which spot?

[solemn oak]

Zone 15 has a cafe in it that you can fast travel to

So that way you get all the spawns regenerated

[solar oriole]

Oh, fast traveling resets the spawns?

[solemn oak]

Yup

[solar oriole]

Neat. Maybe I'll try it out. I'm wanting to find the motivation to finish ZA. Maybe if I had a shiny mega Scolipede, I'd finish it.

[solemn oak]

lol

[solar oriole]

Btw, when does the mega stone for the fennekin line get unlocked?

[solemn oak]

I think you have to do online for it

In like the ranked mode

[solar oriole]

Oh...

Ew

[solemn oak]

Idk I don’t have online

[wispy kernel]

some point in november

not available yet

https://youtu.be/i7k6ilm5QJw?si=zoD8KM8xcvsN3TGq guys watch this video its really cool

[solar oriole]

Effectively how Speed works:
Decrease cooldown by a flat number per point of speed above 45, to a minimum of 3 seconds. Specifically 1 second per 33 speed. This means that high speed is effective at spamming the same attack multiple times, and thus can spare more coverage options compared to doubling down on a type matchup.

[wispy kernel]

yeah pretty much that

but like more details in the video

[solar oriole]

i have become Scolipede

[dapper nymph]

How do moves like Giga Impact and Hyper Beam work in Legends ZA?

[solar oriole]

Big wind up and cool downs

Generally pretty meh.

[dapper nymph]

Are the Pledge Moves in this game?

[solar oriole]

Is it specifically fast traveling to cafes?

[limpid steeple]

Ooo nice, I'm still only at 200 (I'm rank B atm)

[solar oriole]

I've fast traveled, and it still doesn't instantly respawn

[radiant otter]

if you KO or catch something spawns can take at least 2 minutes to respawn

or if it runs away

i know some spots take longer than that

[solar oriole]

Ugh... I don't like waiting around for eevee to respawn in this area. It really shoves the... textures... in your face

There's basically no space where you aren't right up against the bushes

[sturdy flower]

AND IT'S OVER

[daring finch]

I got grabbed

[sturdy flower]

I've finished the game

[daring finch]

My switch online ran ouy

I did reach rank A tho

[worn cobalt]

Nice!

[daring finch]

I also took a pic

Was finishing research tasks and got this guy

[sturdy flower]

finished in 21 hours

[tepid flame]

https://x.com/manjunii/status/1982827010708910378?s=19

SUMI (work hell) (@manjunii)

X · Oct 27, 2025, 3:09 PM

[sturdy flower]

wait when do the spawns in the middle of zone 20 refresh

[daring finch]

Everyone has cute pics with their pokemon, meanwhile I have a dumb dog who hopes I drop my cookie

[sturdy flower]

already 100%ed zone 20

but i neeeeed more alphas

[spare roost]

Every 2-5 minutes if caught

Or if ran away

[desert current]

Then don't wait around? Like I can understand wanting Eevee to respawn, but why not do something else and come back later?

[indigo mango]

just reset the area, always a chance a mon turns alpha

[indigo mango]

there is an eevee there? all eeves i seen in the game are on the roofs lul

[solar oriole]

Given that I've caught 2, I would say so

But just a guess

[indigo mango]

yeah but eeves are at a bunch of places

i caught mine on the top of one of the racine obstacle courses

[sturdy flower]

bench, travel or both

[indigo mango]

i always map travel its the fastest way

bench means clicking through dialogue and waiting out the battle zone shit

travel just takes a second

[sturdy flower]

god it's gonna be hellish

[indigo mango]

used to farm expo candy m that way, always reset the area with Trevenant in it to kill all the alphas when they pop up

[solar oriole]

fast travel to where? That doesn't seem to reset spawns

[indigo mango]

to the area

and yeah it does

[solar oriole]

Ah, my game's just bugged then

[indigo mango]

you can travel inside the area back to the area and it will reset all mons

[solar oriole]

It does not

[indigo mango]

it does yes

[solar oriole]

Maybe in your game

It does not in mine

[indigo mango]

?

[daring finch]

It doesnt reset if you kill the mon

[indigo mango]

i mean kinda

[daring finch]

It just doesnt period

[indigo mango]

if you kill a mon it will be gone for around 5 resets

[daring finch]

Its time bound

[indigo mango]

killed alpha trevenent a whole lot of time in 1 night to know

[daring finch]

Iirc

[indigo mango]

could be if its a short time frame

but i do know mons do reroll when you reset, plenty of times mons turned alpha after a travel

[daring finch]

Yes but when they dead they just dont respawn for a bit

[daring finch]

But this is true

[sturdy flower]

ANOTHER

ANOTHER FULL ODDS SHINY

DRAGALGE

dude i fucking walked into it i almost got a heart attack

i couldn't save because the fight had started already

[indigo mango]

tbf you could just run away and then save

[sturdy flower]

i couldn't think lucidly

i forgot they don't despawn

[sturdy flower]

fuck yeah alpha chikorita and absol

YEAHHHH ALPHA FROSLASS FINALLY

[jaunty comet]

Anyone got an extra alpha charmander to trade? Ive got other alpha starters to trade

[sturdy flower]

dude mega alpha froslass is insane

best new mega by far

maybe best mega ever

[harsh oasis]

Well the best mega is scolipede but froslass is up there

I SWEAR, If I hadn't seen this thing be shiny in someone's video I'd think it was shiny-locked

[worn cobalt]

Well, beat Corbeau without issue, so was feeling real good about my Nuzlocke, then... lost three mons to Naveen.

[harsh oasis]

To NAVEEN, ouch

L bozo

/j

[worn cobalt]

So far, I've lost 13 mons, which is pretty substantial. But I have some very good mons left.

Grinding up three replacements is going to suck though.

[harsh oasis]

Yikes, yeah that's a lot

What do you have left?

[worn cobalt]

I have a Dragonite and a Goodra and an Excadrill in main party. Let me get a screenshot of the remaining box mons.

These are who I have caught, and several mons I have captures available for.

[harsh oasis]

Damn

If aegislash wasn't such hot garbage I would suggest that

[worn cobalt]

It looks like I have 10 captures of wild mons left, plus a gift and one shiny capture available.

Sorry, I have an 11th capture if I want another fletchling.

[harsh oasis]

Honestly, I think that's just about the best team makeup you can have rn

[worn cobalt]

I may need to "over level" to minimize my death toll. But... idk, isn't that against the spirit of nuzlockes?

[harsh oasis]

[worn cobalt]

I'm planning on getting a bagon, a drampa, and a lampent later if needed. Once those areas open up.

[harsh oasis]

Lampent yes

[worn cobalt]

I had a Gengar, leveled it up with some candy to put on the main team, dies the first battle it's in. Maybe second, idk.

[harsh oasis]

Ouch

[worn cobalt]

So far, nuzlocking this game has been fun though. Although, I have notes on future attempts. For example, I may axe Wild Area 3's encounter as the game mandates you have to capture a Pikachu in order to progress, and since Wild Area 1's Pichu is unobtainable before the "mandatory captures" are complete, Wild Area 3 is the only place to get Pikachu (in nuzlocke form).

[harsh oasis]

You have to catch a pikachu? Why?

[worn cobalt]

You are required to capture 4 pokemon in Wild Area 1, including a Fletchling and a Bunnelby, and then, in addition to the aforementioned Pikachu for Heracross, you have to capture a Klefki and possibly a Vanillite. I need to check which mons available in game can naturally learn ice beam.

[worn cobalt]

Side quest 2 (or one or three, idk) where you trade Pikachu for Heracross.

[harsh oasis]

That one's required?

I guess I forgot

[worn cobalt]

I think so. IDK, I haven't tried to see if you can skip doing that mission.

Maybe I'll take a break from nuzlocking and shiny hunt in my main profile.

idk.

[harsh oasis]

Well, I know you have to do three of them

I guess I just forgot that was one of them

Everyone gets bois :3

[worn cobalt]

Let's see... Updating the list, here is what is available capture-wise with my nuzlocke rules (with adjustments made based on what I said):

Mandatory: Starter, Fletchling, Bunnelby, two other Wild Area 1 mons, Wild Area 3 Pikachu (netting you Bois the Heracross), and Klefki.
Wild Encounters: the 6 districts of Vert, Magenta, Bleu, Rouge, Jaune, and Centrico (though Centrico only has fletchling), Wild Area 2, Wild Areas 4-19, Sewers 1 and 2, the Old Building, and Lysandre Labs
Gift mons: Absol, Chespin, Fennekin, Froakie, Spewpa, Kanto Starter, Jaw or Sail Fossil, Galarian Stunfisk, and Shiny Mareep (this one is basically a gift mon)
Shiny Rule: Since shiny pokemon are so easy to cheese in this game, limit to the first 3 you catch.

two major differences I made to the nuzlocke rules are first: wild captures are limited to any mon in area, since you can control which mon you "see" first anyways. Second: Healing in battle is allowed for only Rogue Mega fights, but revives are not allowed. This requires you to control dodging as well as losing action time to pause and heal.

[spare roost]

Barbaracle can learn ice beam, so getting area 6’s alpha is a good catch

[worn cobalt]

Can it learn level up, or do you just have a chance with area 6's alpha (as it's TM move slot)?

[spare roost]

Tm slot

So if you can get the ice beam tm is also good

[worn cobalt]

Okay, so, Ice Beam TM is in wild area 12, so the limited mons that can learn Ice Beam by level up are not required for the run.

I was briefly concerned Vanillite was essentially a required mon.

[noble ice]

Does anyone know how the bottle caps work?
The only time I’ve ever figured it out was on Pokémon go

[harsh oasis]

Regular caps you use to max out one of your pokemon's IVs

Gold ones max them all out

IVs are the numbers that determine how good your pokemon is at specific stats, outside of however you train them and their nature

They're the numbers that range from 0-31

[opal gull]

when you get to post game you can check them within a range

[desert current]

I HATE these stupid things...

Why are they locked behind trade evolutions? Why do I need to pay for stupid Nintendo Online just to trade so I can get them??? THEY AREN'T EVEN GOOD POKEMON! Their stats are mediocre, and so are their movepools...

Who is going to put one of these on their team, and find someone to trade with early on, just to use them in their playthrough? Almost no one, that's who! Why go through all that effort when they're so underwhelming? Maybe if one of them is your favorite Pokemon of all time, but the chances of that are slim.

And they're honestly kinda ugly too.

I hate how we've regressed since Legends: Arceus. Trade Evolutions always screw over me specifically, and we should be past this by now!

And even though many trade evolutions can be found in the wild, for some reason GameFreak decided that common decency was too nice, so these two are EXCLUSIVELY locked behind trading.

[worn cobalt]

Game Freak wants you to play with other people. Make friends, force them to buy a switch and the game, and then trade with them. Simple.

[opal gull]

they were never really willing to make a change they only did it in legends arceus cause they had to

[robust wren]

They'll make evolution methods like Magnezone and Crabominable simpler but never trade evos

[harsh oasis]

It's... It's almost like Nintendo wants you to pay for online

Shocking

Arceus didn't have any connectivity so they had to come up with something else

[robust wren]

These were added even before they made you pay for Online

[noble ice]

One thing I hate is that they didn’t add the link cables in the game like they did in legends of Arceus.

[robust wren]

And there haven't been too many new trade evos since

[harsh oasis]

Yes, but it's why they stick around

[noble ice]

Which is why I’m hoping that they added it in in the DLC

[harsh oasis]

They won't be

And if they are I'll eat crow

The whole point is to get people to pay for online

The building community aspect is a side benefit

[misty bloom]

So is this a bad time to ask if anyone is available to help with trade evolutions and Mabel’s trade evolution) research tasks?

[harsh oasis]

Nah I totally can

But it's worth noting that there are trade codes for this specific reason

They've been posted here a lot but you can just google "za trade codes" and you'll find them

Are you specifically looking for trade backs?

[misty bloom]

I didn’t know that, sorry! I’ll look into that!

[harsh oasis]

It's no problem! Just trying to be informative

[misty bloom]

Not too worried about trade backs, just want to get these evos done and registered so I can work toward the Shiny charm, because apparently someone at game freak decided essentially locking the shiny charm behind a Nintendo online subscription was a good idea.

[harsh oasis]

Oh don't worry, the online subscription is the least of your worries

[misty bloom]

Don’t worry, I’m also unimpressed with the greninjite et al being locked in ranked battles, and the 1000 battles I have to do in game.

[supple fern]

Got these two today

[harsh oasis]

Yoooo

Nice!

[supple fern]

The Bnuii is male, before you ask

[harsh oasis]

Hehehe

I got my own pink male bnuuy in that exact spot I think

I named him astolfo :3

[woeful carbon]

Still can’t believe we have only 8 mega kalosian pokemon

Before you say ||what about zygarde, complete forme was gen 7 exclusive||

[woeful carbon]

||and in the case of eternal floette technically it’s a gen 6 mon but it never released in any gen so imo doesn’t count||

[woeful carbon]

||if we count eternal floette then we count magearna as a gen 6 mon as its debut in the files was in gen 6 but only released in gen 7 and since its counted as gen 7 by basically every wiki im going with not counting eternal floette||

Also holy spoiler wall of text

[harsh oasis]

Lol

Kalos still getting shafted in favour of an older gen

[misty bloom]

Got my trade evos/Dex stuff taken care of. Now to do 463 more battles for my shiny charm. Why Game freak, why?

[tepid flame]

I sure love trade evos as a singleplayer-only Pokemon fan oh boy I love it so much!

I'm at least glad they don't do this anymore

[woeful carbon]

6 Unovan Megas
4 Gen 1
3 Gen 2
2 Alolan*
1 Gen 8
1 Gen 4

I don’t know why I swapped between *an and the gen numbers

[worn cobalt]

6 Unovan
4 Kantonian
3 Johtonian
2 Alolan
1 Galarian
1 Sinnohan

[woeful carbon]

Ty

[harsh oasis]

Now being on the other side of it... I still think it's a dumb amount (600-800 range would have been better) But I think I get what they were going for. In other games getting the shiny charm is barely an achievement. Sure many people won't bother to do it, but especially in modern games you just have so many tools to do it easily. In a game with such a tiny dex, it makes total sense to hold the shiny charm to a higher standard. Is completing (almost*) all the research tasks a great implementation? No but it's better than just letting everyone get it for free imo

[worn cobalt]

and a partridge in a pear tree.

[misty bloom]

If they really wanted to be fun, they have done 721, as a nod to how many Pokémon were in the National Dex as of gen 6.

[woeful carbon]

With all megas combined 19 Gen 1, 8 Gen 2, 20 Gen 3, 6 Gen 4, 7 Gen 5, 9 Gen 6, 1 Gen 7, 1 Gen 8, 2 N/A but Gen 6 by technicality

If we count the two revealed dlc megas of raichu 21 gen 1

[grim cloud]

What are the trade evos that can be encountered as alphas or just normal

[woeful carbon]

Looking at the post region Pokémon list made prior to Z/A release (included are megas revealed by the time 9/19 rolled around) this tracks well

[harsh oasis]

If they don't need an item, they can be found in the wild

Steelix technically can but it's a one time go

[grim cloud]

Dang

I wanna complete my living dex but i dont have nintendo online

[woeful carbon]

Also there are two post alola pokemon

[grim cloud]

I suppose i could buy it

[woeful carbon]

And one is the drampa mega

[robust wren]

They're still doing stuff like Palafin and the Kalos Starter Mega Stones, so it's a small victory

[jade ocean]

I'd probably count Eternal Floette as a Kalos Mega if you aren't

Sure it didn't release in Gen 6 while being in the files but like

Lumiose

Is in Kalos

You get Mega Floette Eternal

In Lumiose

[woeful carbon]

Then we gotta count magearna as kalos

[harsh oasis]

Which is valid

It makes no sense to be gen 7

[jade ocean]

The first time we get Magearna is in an Alola game, though

While the first time we get Floette is in a Kalos game

Region =/= Generation

[woeful carbon]

Yeah but magearna was supposed to release in kalos like eternal floette

[jade ocean]

And? At the end of the day, we ended up obtaining Magearna in Alola, Gen 7, while we got Eternal Floette in Kalos, Gen 9

[woeful carbon]

Let me edit my message to be generations then

[dim plover]

do i get my party all to the same level or do i buff the shit out of ||zygarde|| with xp candies

[woeful carbon]

Do you wanna have fun or do you wanna steamroll the entire game

If you wanna steamroll ||max out zygarde as soon as you can||

[surreal belfry]

Finally end credits now for post game clean up

[dim plover]

i've beat the game im just trying to complete the dex and i need a force of nature to make it happen

also i might have to use a master ball on either fennekin or skarmory

they wont stay in the ball

[worn cobalt]

Fennekin you can get through a side quest. Unless you need more. Then good luck. (repeat balls op in this game)
Skarmory will eventually go in the ball. But I make no promises.

[dim plover]

i dont feel like googling which quest fennekin is in

im trying to get the one on the roof in wz18

[harsh oasis]

Save when they're stunned

Reload if they don't stay in the ball

[worn cobalt]

Magenta Sector 2 quest. Lady is standing next to Fennekin. Turn on guidance once you start the mission to make it easier.

[light agate]

I managed to get the zone 18 mega lopunny out of the wild zone and i can’t attack or be hurt by it anymore

[dim plover]

did the same thing it was pretty fun

[tawdry flame]

I'm now at 600 battles

Only 400 more until 1000

[light agate]

Im only at 250

[worn cobalt]

I'm at the "study the best shiny hunting methods" stage of the game now. Plus a nuzlocke.

I think I'm going to shiny hunt fossils.

[surreal belfry]

I just messed with those skarmory last time was quick ball+back strike now nothing

[worn cobalt]

Got an Alpha Aerodactyl on my first attempt at a batch for shiny. That's neat.

[opal gull]

third person I've seen do that, I was the first

[summer flare]

funni horse obtained

fairly early into tonights hunt, too. had plenty of time to forward the story and clear the next two wild zones, plus buff her attack n speed

also duped a fletchling and got an abra, would probably be happy to make it a kadabra and trade for another trade evo shiny
probably not tonight tho, it's 2 am for me

was p happy with the venipede hunt, only phased once and it was a bunnelby

tbh if i went trade for trade, only thing id be interested in is pumpkaboo line

[jade ocean]

||Zygod is defeated, almost died though and I probably would've died if I didn't have a Level 100 Mega Froslass||

||It also still managed to do a number on Heracross, which I used for the first 2 phases, and Froslass, though ultimately the biggest threat is the one that it poses vs the trainer||

||Even with Froslass doing shitloads of damage, it was taking about as much as Rogue Mega Barbaracle was taking, which really is a testament to just how bulky Zygod is||

||My condolences for anyone who doesn't have an overleveled Ice type Mega||

[wispy kernel]

||I was fighting for my life with an underleveled Mega Feraligatr 😭😭😭||

[jade ocean]

||Mega Barbaracle by itself is already a very bulky Pokemon||

||The craziest part is that Zygod used to be OU in Gen 7||

||Banned for very obvious reasons by now, of course||

In fact, actually?

||Zygod is just straight up better at taking 4× SE hits than every other boss at taking 2×SE hits||

Because I literally ran out of Mega Meter while fighting it

And that's with withdrawing Mega Froslass for the moves I can't hit it during

That did not happen for any other boss I fought

[worn cobalt]

I think I fought it with a Vanilluxe.

[jade ocean]

And I only used Froslass for Phase 3

I guess it's to be expected from a Pokemon like ||Zygod||

[worn cobalt]

I died multiple times trying to catch it, but I finally succeeded just spamming ice moves with my Vanilluxe. Didn't even think to use a mega. I think.

[jade ocean]

As soon as I found out it'd be a boss, I started putting all my EXP Candies into Froslass

Thankfully, I was very early on in the Infinite ZA Royale

And my Froslass was already a pretty good level

[worn cobalt]

||I think you can dodge the core enforcer move that draws the Z by dodge rolling at the right time. Or I glitched the game and it spared me one time.||

[jade ocean]

||I managed to find the blindspot in time||

[worn cobalt]

My Vanilluxe is a shiny, so that's basically a mega.

[worn cobalt]

I was at red and managed to dodge roll in a way that I didn't need the blind spot.

[jade ocean]

W

[worn cobalt]

cheese them iframes.

Also, didn't know there were blind spots until the time I won the fight.

[jade ocean]

I think this is the highest leveled story boss?

[worn cobalt]

ngl, kinda wanna retry the fight again, just for kicks and giggles.

[jade ocean]

Tbf, all the recent games have their stories extend into the post-credits

[wispy kernel]

well yeah its the final boss

of course its gonna be high level

[worn cobalt]

Shiny hunting aerodactyl rn.

[jade ocean]

OK, but it dwarves the other final story bosses

Even Arceus from Legends: Arceus is only level 75

This is level 84

[wispy kernel]

Red, BDSP Cynthia and Kieran:

Red’s Pikachu is level 88, Kieran’s entire team is above 85

[jade ocean]

Does Red count as a story boss? I'm not entirely sure

[wispy kernel]

Pecharunt in SV is 88

[wispy kernel]

I’d say so

[jade ocean]

Before Cynthia's rematch, she is only level 66 on Garchomp

[wispy kernel]

Yeah true

But Red, Kieran and Pecharunt all count I’d say

especially Kieran and Pecharunt

[jade ocean]

Kieran and Pecharunt are also DLC bosses

So basically, ZA's DLC is about to be level 100

[worn cobalt]

True, but... This boss takes hits and has three phases. and normal lvl 100 mons would wipe those other trainers, this requires high level mons.

[wispy kernel]

I’m not arguing difficulty

Purely talking level

as Latios said

[jade ocean]

Purely talking level though if you do include DLCs than Kieran, Terapagos and Pecharunt are higher level

[wispy kernel]

Red I’d say counts as story as well

[jade ocean]

And Red's Pikachu is Level 88, though I'm not sure if he counts as a story boss

[wispy kernel]

Once you get all 8 Kanto badges you get told to go to Mt. Silver

that feels like story to me

as minimal as gen 2’s story is

it is a story

[jade ocean]

Red's Starters also match ||Zygod's|| level

Venusaur, Charizard and Blastoise are Level 84 in HGSS

As is ||Zygod||

[wispy kernel]

Pikachu is 88

[jade ocean]

In terms of average level though, Red falls slightly behind

[wispy kernel]

yeah

but still

[jade ocean]

83.6 vs 84

[wispy kernel]

you never mentioned average level before

Just level

[jade ocean]

Yeah Pikachu being Level 88 is fair

[wispy kernel]

I am arguing purely that it’s not the highest level story boss and nothing else

[worn cobalt]

BTW, Pikachu learn's surf in this game. That makes me happy.

[jade ocean]

OK, let me rephrase then

It's the highest level story boss that isn't a literal NFE

Tied with 3 others

I do still think Arceus is harder though

[worn cobalt]

I got shiny aerodactyl! although almost didn't notice and reset the game...

[charred sage]

not super relevant but gen 9 dlc also has a random level 86 tera... lampent at one point if you've beaten main story

[jade ocean]

That's hilarious

[light agate]

do i grind more battles or keep trying to shiny hunt without charm today

[sturdy flower]

shiny hunt

[hazy knot]

more battle

[plucky escarp]

both

shiny hunt by day, battle by night

focusing on just one feels too grindy

[hazy knot]

I love grinding! 621 battles

[light agate]

at least the battles are easy but still frustrating that the requirement is so high

[dapper nymph]

Hey, I got to the point where I was prompted to choose a Kanto Starter, and I was wondering if I would be able to get the others later or something.

[jade ocean]

You will, but only in postgame

The story does extend past that though so you will get to use them in the story

Not much, but it's something

The more important thing is that you unlock Mega Blastoise + Mega Zard X and Y immediately after unlocking Mega Evolution

But you don't get Mega Venusaur until like, the very end of the game

Like, one of the last batches of Mega Stones you get

Because Gamefreak hates Venusaur I guess

[dapper nymph]

I was gonna get Charmander since I started with Totodile.

[lime compass]

Why is beldums catch rate so low

[harsh oasis]

That's just beldum for you

[robust wren]

Beldum is the one Pokemon I will never shiny hunt unless I have a Master Ball ready

[charred sage]

makes sense considering it has a legendary level catch rate since gen 3 never intended for it to be caught

(and they just kept it that way even when future gens lowered other catch rated)

[robust wren]

And it only knows Take Down, putting every catch attempt on a clock

[lime compass]

Omg I actually caught one

[charred sage]

except in colosseum were metagross is 15 instead

and in GO where it has a normal catch rate

[jade ocean]

Ngl it pisses me off so hard that Dragalge, Victreebel etc have Megas and their counterparts (in these 2 examples, Clawitzer and Vileplume) do not

About as much as Flapple and Appletun having 0 evolution while Dipplin does

Like why can't Gamefreak just give a Mega to both or something

It's especially egregious if they're literally part of the same line, like Slowbro and Slowking

[lime compass]

Flapple and Appletun have gmax so I think I would make sense to give dipplin a evo to balance it out a little

[robust wren]

We have unevolved Gmaxable Pokemon and the gimmick isn't coming back for the foreseeable future except maybe in Champions, Flapple and Appletun can stand to evolve

Especially considering their Gmax form is exceptionally lame

It looks like it could be shrunken down and act as a mid stage between Applin and it's evos

[lime compass]

I guess you’re right

[lime void]

Gigantamax is exceptionally lame to begin with

[lime compass]

Gmax is sick

I love gmax

[harsh oasis]

You can always hard save when it's stunned and reset if it doesn't stay in the ball

[lime compass]

Have you seen gmax charizard?

[lime void]

My point exactly

[lime compass]

https://tenor.com/view/charizard-dynamax-gigantamax-pokemon-sword-and-shield-gif-15325686

[robust wren]

The only Gmax designs I really like are Blastoise and Toxitricity

[lime compass]

It looks awesome

[lime void]

The fact that it’s exclusive to only certain members of the species (unless you pay for the DLC) is extremely stupid

Plus, the only older generation to get more then one G-Max form is Generation 1

[jade ocean]

Their Gmaxes are also ass, though

Not to mention, literally worse than their Dmax forms arguably

Like

In terms of competitive

Actually dogshit forms

And mean jack shit

[lime compass]

So I am the only one who likes gmax

I mean look at these

[jade ocean]

The issue is that 75% of the time the Gmax forms end up being weaker than Dmax forms

So you can't really say it means jack shit

[robust wren]

VGC Heads unironically call it the best gimmick ever

[jade ocean]

When it comes to attention

Because they could've received 0 attention and benefit as much

[lime compass]

Wait really? I actually did not know that

[robust wren]

Half of those are barely different from "Pokemon but big."