pokemon-winds-waves

[dim plover]

Mostly after emma's first 3 side quests

[acoustic igloo]

Aye.

Right now, I'm at the part where Taunie is showing me Prism Tower from the rooftops.

[dim plover]

Ah i see

Its main mission 7 or 8 i thinl

[wispy kernel]

iirc, theyre confirmed to be older than Emma, who’s 16 in XY, so theyre at least 17, if not older

[little nacelle]

... i spent 3000

That was it 😭

[storm bone]

Guys how do I acess to the ||barbaracle ||boss fight ?

[daring finch]

Iirc there is like a pit with 3 segments

Magikarp can spawn in the middle

[storm bone]

The place I need to go is surrounded by buildings

[daring finch]

Go over them?

[storm bone]

Figured it out

[storm bone]

I didn’t know how

[dim plover]

3,600 on the hair then 17k on clothes

[dim plover]

Either over them or theres a gateway/arch you gotta go under

The map is very deceiving when it comes to doorways

[storm bone]

I sais I figured it out just a bit after it

[wispy kernel]

chat I wanna ask. whos your favorite character in the game

[surreal belfry]

I’m torn I have the cool choice smart choice and the meta choice in front of me again

[surreal belfry]

I feel like starting a second play through and I’m not finished with the first

[neat frigate]

Legend za is so Trash

It's insane just how below Mid this game is

[frigid anvil]

Looking to finish my dex, literally only need trade evolutions and i have all the items to fair trade so if anyone has any themselves lmk

Till them zone 20 wondering...

[brazen jetty]

gamefreak gave flareon swords dance in this game holy shit gamefreak gave flareon an actual move 🤯

[wispy kernel]

when will they give it a second

[frigid anvil]

I have more in the box for trade evolutions without items though but just to show i have the items X/

[radiant otter]

where can i find the items for trade evos

[frigid anvil]

Quests

[radiant otter]

i will do some quests and get back to you if you still need trade evos then

[frigid anvil]

Okay XD and thanks

I managed to catch some alphas etc for some but yeah

[radiant otter]

are there only 5 mons that need items?

[frigid anvil]

Umm one sec

But i have some of those already

Only the item trades i need and also machamp

[radiant otter]

alright let me do the quests for spritzee and aromatisse

[frigid anvil]

But im down to help others looking for trade evolutions for any i have already anyway

And thanks XD

[radiant otter]

yeah the only trade evos i have so far are gengar and trevenant

[wispy kernel]

do yall know if theres any benches in the sewers

I know theres probably not but like

[frigid anvil]

You can fill the dex for slow king with the galar slowpoke and items from quests but i also have a slowbro with a kingsrick

[wispy kernel]

it doesnt hurt asking yknow

[frigid anvil]

Idk tbh but if you find one mention it XD

[frigid anvil]

Ping me/reply or dm me if/when you are ready btw XD

[radiant otter]

yep just gave all my mons the items i am ready to go

i didnt have the cafe for the slurpuff one it confused me for a second

[woeful carbon]

I haven’t found one yet I’m beginning to wonder if I have to look toward the ralts spawn to get them to spawn which will kill any automation I could do

[wispy kernel]

not a single bench in this damn city is placed in a spot where I can use it to shiny hunt a pokemon I want shiny

it sucks

[woeful carbon]

Which pokemon

[wispy kernel]

Lampent and Falinks

[opaque osprey]

Lmao

[plucky escarp]

why do you need a bench for that, cant you just fast travel to the area with them in over and over to reload the encounters?

[wispy kernel]

to try to get them to actually spawn

for falinks yeah I could do that

but lampent is pretty rare iirc

[plucky escarp]

yeah falinks was who i was thinking of tbh

the only lampent i have seen is in the areas with the pyroars

[wispy kernel]

yeah and also. I do not wanna run through 50 pyroar every time to check if its shiny or not

[plucky escarp]

yeah those things suck lol

[wispy kernel]

every time ive been in that zone ive come within an inch of my life

[plucky escarp]

what about the sewer area with all the litwick?

can we access that again

[wispy kernel]

I’ve never seen a single litwick in there

and yeah

[plucky escarp]

i have to bait them down onthe ramp and have mega gyara waterfall up and down the ramp lol

its a pain

[wispy kernel]

so yeah that kinda sucks

[plucky escarp]

did just get my eq tm though

[wispy kernel]

honestly the best place I’ve found for hunting chandelure is unfortunately zone ||20||

[plucky escarp]

not there yet

[wispy kernel]

yeah thats why I spoiled it

[woeful carbon]

The player trainer battles are scuffed in ZA

[plucky escarp]

i dont mind knowing what reas its in tbh lol

im gonna find out instantly when i get there

[wispy kernel]

its also only like a 1/70 chance for chandelure to even spawn there

[plucky escarp]

i thought they were easy tbh

won 6 in a row, got k rank, dipped

[wispy kernel]

two random alphas from a pretty long list spawn there every time you reset, and one of them is chandelure so I’ve just been resetting that

[woeful carbon]

The top ranks are just “who can land a hit with mega gyarados to instakill you first”

[plucky escarp]

have yet to ev train or bottlecap

[plucky escarp]

gyara and garchomp was who i was using xD

[radiant otter]

im pissed because you don't get all the kalos mega stones from that

just 1

[plucky escarp]

same

i want my witch fox

[radiant otter]

i wanted to use mega delphox so bad

but im stuck without it for a while sadly

[wispy kernel]

the guys I’ve been using for pvp were Feraligatr, Charizard and Heracross

[plucky escarp]

i would have though zard would be lacluster without abilities

[wispy kernel]

fire blast is crazy

[plucky escarp]

the abilities were the main reason mega zards were good in other games

[wispy kernel]

I can hit shit from like halfway across the map with fire blast

[plucky escarp]

ive been enjoying swords dance + dig

sniping the shit outta people

[wispy kernel]

been doing that with swords dance + megahorn

really funny

[plucky escarp]

dig is pretty much undodgable far as i can tell, and obvioiusly comes outta nowhere

funny

[wispy kernel]

also Feraligatr is just crazy in this tbh

[plucky escarp]

again, stopped at K, players probably still suck at that rank

[wispy kernel]

I’ve been able to beat pretty much every popular pokemon I’ve seen with just Feraligatr

though I’m not at the especially high ranks so

maybe that changes

[desert current]

Anyone else noticed Aegislash really sucks in Z-A?

[plucky escarp]

ive not had issues with gatr really

[plucky escarp]

no stance swap

[wispy kernel]

It does have stance change actually

[plucky escarp]

oh it does?

[wispy kernel]

one of the only pokemon that still has an ability in ZA

[plucky escarp]

nevermind then

[desert current]

Yeah and that's the problem ironically

[plucky escarp]

i specifically ignored getting an aegis since abilities were out

[desert current]

The animation for it changing forms lasts so long and it leaves it completely open to attack.

[woeful carbon]

Just like cherrim in LA

[wispy kernel]

and Regigigas

[plucky escarp]

honestly theres a lotta mons that need abilties to be good

[desert current]

If you use King's Shield to try and protect yourself from an attack, it will do its animation to turn into shield form and get hit because the protect doesn't come out until after it finishes

[plucky escarp]

yikes

[woeful carbon]

Arceus has got something out for Regigigas

[desert current]

and when you attack, it has to finish its animation AND go through the wind up in order to attack

so it gets hit by two or three attacks by the time it executes one

[wispy kernel]

a lot of this game’s new megas seem like they’ll be pretty reliant on what ability they get in champions

[plucky escarp]

champions?

[desert current]

and cause it only has 60 base speed its slow to attack in general, it REALLY wasn't designed for this battle style

[sacred harbor]

just caught both kalos legends in pokeballs 😭 took too long

[wispy kernel]

the official battle simulator coming out next year

its when we’ll finally get the abilities for the ZA megas

[plucky escarp]

oh, that thing, totally ignored it honestly

showdown with extra steps and a price tag

[wispy kernel]

no price tag apparently

which seems good

[plucky escarp]

do you need ti transfer mons from home?

[wispy kernel]

yeah

[plucky escarp]

the price tag is all the other games then

pass from me anyway

[wispy kernel]

I play competitive so im super excited about it

anyways back to before

I’m really interested to see what abilities the new megas are gonna get

[plucky escarp]

eh, i should sleep, alarms in 5 hours

[woeful carbon]

Using mega banette with phantom force just feels like Goku prowler

Psychic and ghost types just disintegrate when hit

[wispy kernel]

I dont think many of them will see much play unless they get pretty good abilities

||Excadrill|| is really funny to me cuz like. Unless it’s ability is super good it’s just going to be worse than regular

[woeful carbon]

||Why would it be worse cause no sandforce/sandrush?||

[wispy kernel]

Because no item slot

[woeful carbon]

Forgot megas take item slots

[wispy kernel]

Same reason regular tyranitar is better than mega tyranitar

[woeful carbon]

Balanced hackmons rot consumes me

[wispy kernel]

yeah so did rayquaza

fuck that fuckass snake

I hope it rots in hell

[wispy kernel]

also ||sand force|| is it’s worst ability lol

||Usually it uses Mold Breaker in singles (dunno for sure tho, I don’t play it), and Sand Rush in doubles||

[desert current]

Look at what I caught the other day

Shiny Alpha Gourgeist

[wispy kernel]

oooooh nice

oh yeah also another thing

I’ve noticed that a lot of pokemon get new moves in ZA which is honestly really cool and I’m really hoping a lot of these get carried over to champions

please let feraligatr keep liquidation and breaking swipe

[forest egret]

I imagine ||Mega Starmie|| will have Huge Power/Pure Power, since in this game currently it has the same stat boost that Mawile and Medicham got to compensate for their lack of ability

[wispy kernel]

oh yeah almost definitely

It’s gonna be so fucking funny

100 base attack with huge power and 120 base speed

its gonna be so funny

[charred sage]

and still with 135 special attack no less

[wispy kernel]

just 130 but yeah

me sending out my physically defensive wall pokemon expecting a physical attack just to immediately get hit by like hydro pump or some shit

[desert current]

If I had a nickel for every time...

[wispy kernel]

shoutout to mega ||pyroar|| btw, I don’t think any ability can save those dogshit stats

it already sucked complete ass and they just decided to give it +20 in every stat

they didnt even fucking try

[forest egret]

Mega Malamar also got it pretty rough

[charred sage]

||pyroar's feels like a mon they only gave a mega to because someone in the story wants it and they clearly didn't want to make it otherwise rofl||

[wispy kernel]

it at least looks like they put more than 2 seconds of effort into it’s stats 😭

[wispy kernel]

||the design is just so boring too, I don’t think anybody likes it||

they just took ||pyroar|| and made it uglier

at least the shiny’s pretty cool its got that going at least

[forest egret]

I like ||Female Pyroar|| so it kinda sucks to see that not only do both become the same mega, but it just adds to the feature I never liked on the other

[robust wren]

Dragonite is arguably worse too cause it was defined by its attack all this time and Mega Dragonite pivots to a special attacker

[wispy kernel]

also no multiscale or inner focus probably

I feel like ||Pyroar||’s mega couldve just been given to ||Talonflame|| instead, it’d probably be better

[robust wren]

Pivoting out of Multiscale is actually pretty cool from a gameplay perspective, as you can setup as base then go Mega. Though I'm pretty sure the only good Special buff it gets is Calm Mind if anything

[wispy kernel]

that is true

||Scolipede|| is prolly gonna be able to do something similar to that too

||Waiting out a few boosts from Speed Boost, then mega evolving and sweeping||

||It does lose speed when it mega evolves, but it can just kinda. get it back from speed boost||

[robust wren]

Apparently Dragonite does in fact not learn Calm Mind, or any boosting moves for its Special side lol

[wispy kernel]

yeahhhhh

Dragonites just kinda doomed tbh

which honestly

I’m happy about

it’s strong enough

thank god it’s mega is gonna be a sidegrade at best

imagine if this shit had like aerilate extreme speed

[robust wren]

It's big niche will probably be Rain teams

[forest egret]

https://tenor.com/view/dragonite-dragonite-taunt-dragonite-used-taunt-gif-16895985056047530917

[autumn musk]

Dragonite's mega is almost as lazy as Greninja's

[forest egret]

Dragonite's mega looks sick

[wispy kernel]

I just hope Battle Bond Greninja will be allowed to mega evolve

Actually disgusting combo lying in wait there

[autumn musk]

If battle bond greninja mega evolves it loses battle bond

Making it just a Greninja

[wispy kernel]

You get the stat boost then you mega evolve

[autumn musk]

😂

[robust wren]

Can't wait for ||Mega Baxcalibur from the DLC leak|| to actually make it as powerful as ||It's Godzilla inspiration||

[wispy kernel]

they got rid of ash greninja

now battle bond just increases your stats

[wispy kernel]

please oh god no

[autumn musk]

What is Greninja's mega ability

[wispy kernel]

we dont know

Nothing has abilities in ZA so we don’t know

[robust wren]

Not even in the files like in LA

[autumn musk]

Hopefully its something good enough to justify overwriting Protean. Even with the nerf

[robust wren]

Skill Link would be fun

[wispy kernel]

I do think Battle Bond will be better with it tbh

If Battle Bond Greninja is allowed to mega evolve that is

Get a kill, then mega evolve with the attack, special attack and speed boosts

[robust wren]

Given Gamefreak's recent track record, some of the new Megas will get brand new busted abilities

Lord knows Victreebel and Malamar are begging for that lol

[wispy kernel]

Delphox is one of the few megas in this game that I think is still gonna be good even if it gets just an ok ability

the stats are pretty good

[autumn musk]

Or they'll just get lazy recreations of old abilities. Looking at you Good as Gold and Libero

😂

[wispy kernel]

I’m honestly really hoping it gets Levitate

[autumn musk]

Immunities you can never go wrong with

[wispy kernel]

It’s already really good offensively

Giving it an immunity to such a common weakness + immunity to spikes, toxic spikes and sticky webs is pretty good for singles

[robust wren]

Wonder what ||Eelektross|| could get that would be worth ||giving up the no weakness prestige||

[wispy kernel]

I think theres a chance that it just

doesnt get a new ability tbh

we already have stuff like tyranitar and medicham

[autumn musk]

All megas get different abilities

[wispy kernel]

and ||Eelektross|| isnt as good as Tyranitar is where the regular would just be better than the mega in that scenario

[wispy kernel]

I literally just gave examples of ones that dont

Tyranitar and Medicham

[autumn musk]

Show how much I used mega evolution lol

[wispy kernel]

also Scizor

[autumn musk]

I thought all mega abilities were different from nonmega

[robust wren]

I just hope ||Froslass|| gets something fun. It has a promising stat line, I would love to have another member of the ||useful Ice type|| club

[autumn musk]

I actually had to go look it up just now

[wispy kernel]

and Blaziken

yada yada

you get it

[wispy kernel]

It’s pretty damn fast for ||an ice type||

which is nice

Imagine if it got like. ||Slush Rush|| or something

it’d be really funny

[robust wren]

Honestly, thinking more about Mega Dragonite in Rain, would it really be much better than Mega Swampert? That's pretty tough competition in the Mega Rain game

[wispy kernel]

I really dont think so

doesnt even get stab water moves

[robust wren]

I remember I theorized about it getting ||Snow Warning|| but that might be a bit much

[wispy kernel]

eh not really

[robust wren]

||Perfect accuracy Blizzard with 140 SpA and the Snow buff along with Aurora Veil||

[wispy kernel]

Charizard Y with Drought is a lot worse than that is lmao

oh wait yeah that

that could be a bit much

[robust wren]

At the very least, if ||Mega Froslass|| is too pushed, ||Maybe it could get Freeze replaced with Frostbite like it ought to be||

[wispy kernel]

pleassssse

[robust wren]

Either way I'm absolutely using the hell out of ||Mega Froslass.|| It's been one of my favorite Pokemon for over a decade, and it's Mega is everything I wanted from it.

[wispy kernel]

My favorite pokemon’s mega is unfortunately one of the most mid megas 😔

though compared to some of the newer megas it might be a bit better than people thought

(its not)

[robust wren]

As a ||Starmie|| fan, I feel for ya in the "disappointed by a Mega" field

[wispy kernel]

I really like it’s mega

it’s super fucking funny plus it’s got really good potential

Meanwhile I’m over here stuck with Mega Ampharos

Like it’s not too bad it’s just

It kinda doesnt have like

anything

no matter how many buffs it gets it’s still Ampharos

[forest egret]

I don't like the mega that much, but it is funny. In my tierlist I moved it up by 1 tier from the bottom for that virtue

I kinda wish they did something with the colours tbh. I saw some fanart where they just changed the body to be yellow and kept the back parts purple still, and I really liked it

[jade ocean]

Except, that's not the consensus nowadays

[jade ocean]

Also, ||Exca|| doesn't strike me as a mon that really relies on its item slot

And it breaks 100 Speed with the Mega

[robust wren]

I am genuinely curious what abilities Mega Victreebel and Mega Malamar could get within reason that would make them worth actually using

[jade ocean]

Which is pretty big

Sure you could say "Oh it can just raise its speed with a Choice Scarf" but Chocie Scarf ||Exca|| is not a real set

Could also say the same for Rapid Spin, but even then the extra speed could help it outspeed more Scarfers

Also does quite a good amount more damage without chipping yourself with LO or locking yourself with Band

Band is also definitely not a real ||Exca|| set

And I don't think LO is either

But I think the biggest thing is that Mega ||Excadrill|| is actually bulky as fuck on the physical side

It is far more likely to actually ||survive setting up with Rapid Spin or Swords Dance|| compared to before

And this really seems like a ||Tough Claws|| type of Pokemon

And if it does get that, that'll make it even better

The one thing that I will say is that ||if Mega Excadrill doesn't get Sand Rush, then base Excadrill will definitely outperform it on Sand teams||

[jade ocean]

See, the issue is

They effort they put into Mega Malamar somehow managed to amount to less than the lack of effort for ||Pyroar||

Which is almost impressive

[jade ocean]

It's already like 75% of the way there tbh

[jade ocean]

Praying for Snow Warning here

That'd go so fucking crazy

[jade ocean]

It won't get anything new

I am 90% sure on that

[woeful flume]

i have finally completed the dex

[robust wren]

The fight between Victreebel, Malamar, and ||Pyroar|| for the best Mega in PU will be legendary

[jade ocean]

||I doubt Mega Pyroar will be PU if it keeps Earth Power||

Heck even without it, nothing will outspeed it in PU, and it'll hit really hard

It's also not even frail anymore

So like

Unironically?

Far better than either Victreebel or Malamar

[woeful flume]

best comp mega?

[jade ocean]

||Mega Zygod, even if Nihil Light was only 100 BP like the leaks said||

||You'd have to be trolling if you said otherwise||

[woeful flume]

even with only 100bp that spatk stat is insane

[jade ocean]

Well, actually

You only said best comp mega

Never specified ZA

[woeful flume]

mega zyg aint even seeing the light of day in comp

[jade ocean]

Anyways, Mega Gengar

If it keeps Encore

Easily

No diff

[woeful flume]

mega gengar needs levitate back

[jade ocean]

Why'd you nerf my guy

... Actually?

[woeful flume]

they had to nerf him

[jade ocean]

I can see why you'd nerf him

He's broken as fuck

[woeful flume]

speedy and stornk nothing lives

[robust wren]

Aside from the Gold Ticket into AG, I would probably say out of the new ones it's probably Delphox or ||Froslass||

[jade ocean]

Shadow Tag is the entire reason why I'd say it's far better than even Mega Rayquaza on the condition that it keeps Encore from Gen 9

[jade ocean]

||Tbh, I don't think it'd be quite AG||

||Mainly because comparing it to base Zygod, it seems pretty similar in overall strength, since base Zygod has shit like Coil and Tarrows||

||Just a completely different playstyle||

[woeful flume]

im level 45 rn on the research finna get that charm soon

[jade ocean]

||Which to be fair, could get it banned anyways||

||Since then you're playing mindgames||

||But in a vacuum? Assuming Nihil Light gets nerfed to 100 BP, I could actually see it being Ubers||

[woeful flume]

imagine bringing along the scariest team if even a single one megas and then its just the floette that megas...

[jade ocean]

||That said, writing it off because you need to activate Power Construct first is stupid as shit||

||Let's not forget that base Zygod has the exact same issue of being dogshit before Power Construct||

||And it's one of the best Pokemon of all time||

[woeful flume]

||its basically a z-move atp which is insane ||

[jade ocean]

I mean I dunno about you but I'd be shitting my pants

[woeful flume]

is that really its stats????

[jade ocean]

Friendly reminder that Eternal Flower Floette has had 1 less BST than Florges since Gen 6

It has always been this way

[woeful flume]

yeah im finna forfeit and offer my entire family and everyone i know to keep that at bay

[jade ocean]

Light of Ruin has also always existed

I dont know if I'm surprised people don't know that

Or if I'm not

Because I mean it is hidden away in the files

But it is also the worst kept secret in all of Pokemon

[woeful flume]

light of ruin is just a gatekept move but its there, not even able to look at it

going to a museum to see nothing there but the photo shows a rocket ship...

[jade ocean]

Even assuming it doesn't keep Encore, Mega Gengar is still Top 3 Megas easily

[woeful flume]

facts

[jade ocean]

It's so much better than the runner ups of Salamence and MMY (in a Singles context)

Add on Encore, and it's just top 1

[woeful flume]

bro ive put at least 2-3 hours in looking for shiny gastly in my playthrough and my friend happens to find one while catching pokemon for the research missions

give it levitate back and it goes beyond

[jade ocean]

Hard disagree

Give it Levitate and you can actually make an argument for Salamence or Mewtwo

Shadow Tag is the biggest thing with Mega Gengar

If you play incorrectly, it will systematically remove all of your checks to your opponent's best Pokemon

[woeful flume]

i forgot it gets shadow tag.... yeah it can keep that

[jade ocean]

And once they're all gone, how are you stopping Xerneas?

[woeful flume]

easy

[jade ocean]

Or Eternatus?

Or Zacian?

[woeful flume]

glock

[jade ocean]

Or NDM?

When it gets Encore, it suddenly gains the ability to trap you in and watch helplessly as it Nasty Plots itself to +6 SpA

And you can't do shit because it locked you into a Status move

[woeful flume]

wait thats actually like broken

and its fast

cause its HIM

[jade ocean]

Like listen if Encore Mega Gengar is getting banned alongside TERA CALYREX SHADOW and TERA SHEDINJA in NatDex Ubers

I think that's enough proof for its threat

Like, Miraidon and Mega Rayquaza were considered minor issues compared to these 3

And guess what? They're also AG now lmfao

[woeful flume]

tera shedninja is scary

but gengar made its way up

[jade ocean]

Somehow only as scary as Tera Calyrex bro who made this thing 💔

Tera Calyrex is the most egregious of these 3

Because it actually exists

You can go play directly on cart in SV

And you'll find this fucker waiting for you at the gates of hell

[woeful flume]

yeah im looking at it and im glad i never got into comp on SV

[jade ocean]

It even paid Gamefreak to erase Yveltal from existence

So you're just giga fucked

[woeful flume]

cobblemon will be my only release for comp strats

they just be removing mons and suddenly groudon is still there and rayray in every region

[jade ocean]

Groudon, as it turns out, hates Gen 9 Powercreep as much as I do

Anyways to try to re-rail the conversation

What do we think of the leaked DLC Megas?

[woeful flume]

groudon has been bombed by 13 different countries and it still tries

[jade ocean]

||I feel like it'd be pretty fucking difficult to make Mega Bax or Glim bad||

[robust wren]

||Mega Baxcalibur|| is a terrifying idea

[woeful flume]

i havent seen any of those guys yet

[robust wren]

Almost as scary as ||Mega Magearna||

[jade ocean]

||Glimmora is already a mid bulk, mid speed, crazy SpA Pokemon. The only stat it doesn't want is Attack||

[woeful flume]

!?

[jade ocean]

||There's also a non-0 chance Mega Glim gets Levitate||

||So now when you're facing Glimmora, you have to play mind games||

[robust wren]

||Please let it be Merciless instead, it would be so fun||

[jade ocean]

||Well, you already do, actually||

||Red Card? Focus Sash? Power Herb?||

||Or maybe a Mega Stone||

||Or a shiny red balloon||

[woeful flume]

noo thats to scary to think about

[jade ocean]

||It'd be so funny||

Anyways, ||Mega Mag is just Ubers||

What do you even increase on it that would be a waste

[radiant otter]

it only took 27 hours to find a shiny but i’m happy about this one

[jade ocean]

Bu default, it'll have 0 wasted stats

[robust wren]

Probably the funniest part of the Leak has to be ||Mega Garchomp 2 with no Flygon, cause Flygon fans were born to suffer||

[woeful flume]

fr give my boy a mega

[robust wren]

Been saying it for years, ||Garchomp is the Charizard of Gen 4||

[jade ocean]

||At least you can dump into Bax or Glim's weaker Attack stat, do that for Mag and it just uses Shift Gear on your ass||

||Don't do that for Mag, and it uses Shift Gear anyways, you're cooked||

Mega ||Heatran|| I'm interested in

Mainly because ||Heatran's|| a pretty chill guy

[woeful flume]

not looking foward to the other one....

[jade ocean]

||Mega Darkrai should get No Guard||

||It'd be so fucking funny||

[robust wren]

||Golisopod will hopefully finally have a means of surpassing EE||

[woeful flume]

wym its already guarenteed pretty much

[jade ocean]

||We should just dump Emergency Exit for Tough Claws or Regenerator or something||

[woeful flume]

finna need to be tested for substances if it does

[robust wren]

||Regenerator would actually be peak cause it would encourage exactly the play style Gamefreak clearly intended for Golisopod||

[jade ocean]

||Now the issue is, Golisopod has neither U-Turn nor Flip Turn||

||Which may be the most baffling design choice in the history of Pokemon||

||Bro's entire thing is switching out but it doesn't even have a singular fucking pivot move when there's 2 that it shares types with||

[robust wren]

I imagine design wise ||Glimmora is just going to look like it Terastalized, given how tied to that mechanic it is||

[sinful dagger]

it took me an hour to figure out how to find myself on the correct roof to confront ||mega beedrill|| and I'm embarrassed

[indigo mango]

there is like no way that i am missing to just have it set to auto target mons in a battle right? cause gotta say the constant pressing of zl is really getting on my nerves, especially when it sometimes just stops targeting the mon

for like open world i get the targeting system, it makes sense. but for 1 on 1 fights? why do i need to still target the mon

also lul fights too stressful button mashing to really ever see whats going onm didnt even get a good look at ||mega drampa|| cause i was just trying to kill it

also not sure what i expected but its weird to see how early on you get mega charizard x and y, i get they are just normal megas like all others but still took me by suprise that you get a free charmander and can casually buy the y and x mega stones

[paper willow]

Anyone else disappointed by ||Mega Feraligatr?||

[sacred harbor]

THIS IS WHY WE CLASHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[woeful carbon]

tweaking out rn

Almost 11 hours

[robust wren]

I'm disappointed with ||all 3 of the Mega ZA Starters honestly||

[woeful carbon]

||im disappointed with 90% of the mega evolutions||

[robust wren]

But yeah ||Feraligatr|| got it pretty bad

[sacred harbor]

mega feraliagr was tuff tho

[robust wren]

I like most of them, but the garbage was extra trashy this time around

Especially ||Pyroar doing a Swordward cosplay||

[woeful carbon]

Official vs fan design

[robust wren]

Imma be real, I prefer the official one there
The fanmade one honestly just looks like the stereotype of adding a bunch of unnecessary spikes

[woeful carbon]

Fair but like

What the fuck is the original supposed to be even

Also leaks warning: alleged megas arriving in the dlc

[woeful carbon]

||zeraora golisopod meowstic golurk and absol are all in my top 25 favorite pokemon of all time I used to pray for times like this||

[sharp elbow]

Whats Yveltals catch rate

[woeful carbon]

I don’t know in ZA but in base pokemon it’s 3

[sharp elbow]

I hope its mot three cause you gotta fight yveltal again every failed catch attempt.

[woeful carbon]

I believe this would be a “Master Ball” moment

[sharp elbow]

I don’t have one

[paper willow]

||Mega skarmory made me so freaking mad||

||give one of the first ever steel types some freaking respect like you did for scizor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!||

[sharp elbow]

Yveltal keeps breaking free and its pissing me off

[amber monolith]

Even though we didn’t get mega flygon because of artist block, they still gave us subpar mega evolutions

[amber monolith]

there’s a meaning in that, I think

Couldn’t think of a mega flygon design, yet there’s some not so good mega evolutions in ZA

[sharp elbow]

OH MY GOD HOW DO I GET YVELTAL TO STAY IN THE BALL.

[woeful carbon]

||https://fixupx.com/MadZygardeCore/status/1770965225367294426||
||I very much need that mega meowstic-m design||

Suba (@MadZygardeCore)

Mega Meowstic
︀︀Psychic type
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︀︀By far my favourite Cat Pokemon in the whole of Pokemon! Pokemon Legends Z-A better give me Mega Meowstic!
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︀︀When Mega Evolved, they can see into different future realities at once!
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︀︀#pokemon #PokemonLegendsZA #fakemon

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FixupX · Mar 22, 2024, 12:06 AM

[robust wren]

They really made ||Skarmory|| into this

Spot the difference

[robust wren]

||Chimecho|| should be getting a straightforward evolution, not a mega that will be ripped away from it come Gen 11

[drowsy veldt]

||what are they going to do with glimora? Make it bigger?
(Also, none of us survive mega darkrai)||

[robust wren]

||Mega Glimmora will probably call back to Terastalization, given its connection to that||

[outer magnet]

https://vxtwitter.com/mewblues2094/status/1979758035649310940?s=46

mwblu (@MEWBLUES2094)

Why must my luck be like this

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Oct 19, 2025, 3:54 AM

Happened to me an hour ago

[arctic pendant]

||mega absol is obtained in the base game||

[robust wren]

||The leak is saying it's getting another. Same with Garchomp and Lucario.||

[arctic pendant]

Huh interesting

[radiant otter]

pokédex✅

[woeful carbon]

||Ability: Dark Void gains 100% accuracy and all mega stat boost points goes to speed||

[limber compass]

Can someone help me evolve haunter?

[sacred harbor]

Was that 2 shines 😭

[outer magnet]

Yup

[woeful carbon]

You drown while others die of thirst

I haven’t seen one shiny and I’ve been at this for 12 hours

[outer magnet]

I don’t even have the shiny charm yet

[sacred harbor]

I pray for you

You will get something crazy in the future brother trust

😭 2 shines

Crazy

[polar hatch]

What do you think of the real time battle?

[woeful carbon]

Honestly more fun than regular pokemon battles but it sucks competitively

[polar hatch]

Normal battle was SO long

[radiant otter]

it might be a while man

it took me over 27 hours for one

[jade ocean]

Fun, but thank god I don't play it competitively because all I see when it comes to that is Mega Gyarados

And that does not sound like a balanced meta

[paper willow]

Look at how they massacred our boy

[royal dagger]

Yall know what this means

[plucky dune]

gang i think tidepod the blastoise is out of a career cause i just got a alpha level 43 clawitzer with aura sphear, ice beam, water pulse, and swords dance. it also has 72 attack and 121 sp. atk and 94 in both sp defence and normal defence, it also has 73 speed and 141 hp

[royal dagger]

I see you as well chose chikorita

[plucky dune]

i respect the grass dino

also AquaGlock the alpha clawitzer has a perfect iv in hp i think

This is my team fr I think I’m at rank e I believe

[sweet crag]

Why is there different colors ?

[plucky dune]

i have a rgb desk

[sweet crag]

Ok

[plucky dune]

btw does anyone know where i can find dragalgy and who should i replace for dregalgy

[sacred harbor]

Mmmmm do you want spoiler

[plucky dune]

i think im either gonna replace arbok or maybe beedrill but im not sure on which cause beedrill has a mega but arbok has good coverage because he can learn all the fangs.

pls do i neeed dragalgy

[sacred harbor]

Sewer

[plucky dune]

hmmm gotcha

[sacred harbor]

When you see rank up game vs the fighting guy idk what one he was but I think it’s like c or d

[plucky dune]

gotcha gotcha

they shouldve gave clawitzer a mega he is so goated

[sacred harbor]

2 big arms 😭

[plucky dune]

we got starmie with long legs so i mean the baris low

[sacred harbor]

That’s for the goofy lovers

[plucky dune]

fir

[sacred harbor]

How should I train this other than attack

The rest of my team is random don’t question it

[plucky dune]

oh....... omg why is he so tough

[sacred harbor]

Bro when he mega evolves his attack goes to 460 😭

[plucky dune]

actually he is lvl 100 so it makes sense

OH NO

my condolences to those in the gators way

[sacred harbor]

Bro absolutely demos anything that isn’t alpha

[plucky dune]

i know in the other games swords dance only affects physical moves but does swords dance affect special as well in za cause i have swords dance but im not sure if i should get rid of it or not

[jade ocean]

It does not

[plucky dune]

gotcha

[jade ocean]

Also damn y'all are EV training?

I personally didn't bother since the EV reducing berries can only be bought one at a time and that's annoying as shit

There's probably a way to get multiple at a time though

Since an NPC directly points out how stupid it is

[plucky dune]

see if i wont a stat to be stronger i just give my mons some pills or feathers for the stat i wont and hope the problems go away

like i gave my mega-nium a bunch of feathers and the meds dedicated to its special defence due to it being so low and and i wnt it to be a special attacker so it should be able to tank hits

the only things i give it are special atk, special defence, and normal defence.

all the speed and atk i give to scolopede

and i have been givng health to beedrill recently cause how weak it is

[sacred harbor]

I am rn idk what to do with him tho

Cuz I want to fully train 3 mons for ranked play to get greninjite

[jade ocean]

Based on what I've seen, you really don't need to

[sacred harbor]

So I’m planing mega gardivoor fersligstr and smth else

[sacred harbor]

What

[jade ocean]

It's trivially easy I mean

[sacred harbor]

You thibk feraligtr will steam roll then with max iv ev nature attack

[jade ocean]

I've seen people climbing the ladder right after unlocking megas and succeeding

You're fine

Unless you suck really hard at the game

[sacred harbor]

Who should I use as a third mom then

[jade ocean]

Probably something for Gyarados

It's a common mon

[sacred harbor]

Mmmm

I’m putting thunderbolt on gardivour alr

[jade ocean]

Electric would be the best as it'd be able to hit both base and Mega for SE

But you do need to watch out for Ground types

[sacred harbor]

Mmm

[jade ocean]

And Grass types too

If you're already using Feraligatr, that should cover Ground

So that leaves Grass

Grass has quite a few weaknesses so you shouldn't be short on options

[sacred harbor]

Mmm I could put ice fang on him for if I’m stuck

[plucky dune]

you could although idk if feralogator can learn ice punch but isnt it better then the fangs? or you could get a Pokémon that specializes in ice or ice and fairy or somthin.

mind you i dont do competitive so this might be somthing stupid i just said

[sacred harbor]

Mmmm

I need smth for fair and grass at same time

Fairy+

[jade ocean]

So like

Poison?

[sacred harbor]

Does it hit both

I was lowkey looking for like a fire steel type or smh

[slate loom]

The ladders arent that deep if you are looking at the ranked pvp. You WILL climb if you just battle, doing well just means you climb faster and strategy generally boils down to hit them harder and faster, and or kill steal

[sacred harbor]

Losing sucks tho

Like if I end up second every match I’m not gonna be sad but I won’t be satisfied

[slate loom]

Also god damn this games story... || I started off frustrated Urbain roped me into the whole hotel and held me by a god damn leash, then the loan happened and with every fibre of my being I wanted to punt the rust syndicate. But this rich snobby tournament, having Urbain just say Oop- nevermind deuses- I have never resonated with a decision so hard.

Urbain continuing to snub that elite girl has made me love him for the first time. ||

[slate loom]

I frequently place first with nothing but a mega hawlucha, spamming flying press and Fly

[sacred harbor]

😭 I hate this

[slate loom]

Hehehehehh

I have detect just incase ^3^

[sacred harbor]

Do mons show nicknames in game or naw

Like if I call feraligtr king von will they see it

[dim plover]

dude why are healing items so cheap

i just spent 100k and got 100 antidotes, paralyze, burn and ice heals, awakenings, revives, and 115 hyper potions

i wont use an 1/8th of this

[sacred harbor]

You use them hella if auto healing

[dim plover]

how does one enable that because when i hit restore health it makes me choose what to use

[sacred harbor]

Right stick

[dim plover]

ah i see now

[sacred harbor]

Can’t be mid battle tho

[slate loom]

You have to manually use it, you just go to your menu and press right stick and your team pop up to full

[sacred harbor]

It’s lowkey my favorite QOL feature other then the move learning rework

[dim plover]

i just love the style of the legends games

[plucky dune]

ok im actually curios about this. Is there a scenario where beedrill and mega beedrill could be viable for competitive cause mine is mainly used to set up toxic spikes

some times i mega my beedrill so i can hit hard with some bug moves although i have a ariodose with x scizor and swords dance so i guess i have two strong bugs

[sacred harbor]

Bug is the worst type tho

[plucky dune]

fair

[sacred harbor]

I never have used bug like other then in emerald rouge

[plucky dune]

i will tell you what i have lots of poison coverage

[dim plover]

i have 1 single bug type move on my entire team and its chesnaught's pin missle because i havent found a move i want to replace it wit

[plucky dune]

see my scolopede has rollout iron defence takedown and screech so it doesnt do bug moves really so the only bug moves i have are on ariodose and beedrill

[jade ocean]

ZA? I'd imagine the answer is no

Overall though your best bet is Gen 6 UU

That said I don't have knowledge on the ZA meta

Apart from how Gyarados seems to be very, VERY common

[sacred harbor]

Do alpha Mon have higher stats?

[jade ocean]

No, but they do tend to have moves that the Pokemon doesn't learn by level up

And sometimes, these moves can't be learnt by any other method, either

And are exclusive to Alphas

[sacred harbor]

What

[plucky dune]

i presume so cause my one alpha on my team has so much higher stats compared to my team

[jade ocean]

I do think they have generally higher IVs though

[sacred harbor]

I knew this by tutorial tip

[sacred harbor]

Not this tho

[jade ocean]

But in terms of pure base stats? I'm 99% sure they don't

[jade ocean]

Also, what Pokemon is the Alpha

And what level is it

And what are you comparing it to

[plucky dune]

ok i dont think this is in za but im not fully sure. is there breeding gin za or do you have to do that in like scarlet so you can have competitive mons

[jade ocean]

Not sure if there's breeding

[sacred harbor]

No breeding

[jade ocean]

But like in SV, Breeding is irrelevant

You just use Bottle Caps, Mints, Vitamins and EV Reducing Berries instead

[sacred harbor]

Breeding is good if you want a 0 iv

[plucky dune]

well it seems like it would be good to breed for evs and ivs etc etc

[jade ocean]

True

[sacred harbor]

Only good use tho

[jade ocean]

Good riddance

[sacred harbor]

Also the berries and the vitamins are relatively cheap tho

[jade ocean]

Breeding for IVs is shit

[sacred harbor]

200 for the berries

[jade ocean]

In fact the newer games in general are just so much better for prepping competitively

Actually playing is another story entirely though lmao

[sacred harbor]

😭 chill I enjoyed this game

[jade ocean]

I'm referring to Competitive only here

And mainly for SV

[sacred harbor]

Oh ya

[jade ocean]

SV's Competitive scene is horrid

I fucking hate SV Competitive

[sacred harbor]

Closes team sheet?

[jade ocean]

Definitely the thing I hate the most about SV

[sacred harbor]

Not the graphics?

[jade ocean]

This ain't powercreep this is powersprint

[sacred harbor]

True but look incineroar and rillavoom are still there

[jade ocean]

Yippee there's like 2 Pokemon remaining that were relevant last gen

Amazing

What an amazing show of balance

[sacred harbor]

LOL

there’s this guy in my dorm who won a regionals

[jade ocean]

Yknow if you put it like that somehow Singles is less crept

... Probably because yknow

We banned the stupid shit like Fucker Mane

Fucking dogshit Pokemon btw and a genuine stain to Gen 9's otherwise great roster of Pokemon

And I hope it mysteriously never returns even if the other Paradox Pokemon do

[sacred harbor]

LOL

[jade ocean]

Fuck, make a Mega Mismagius and give it a Flutter Mane style stat spread

I dont care

At least it isn't Flutter Mane

[dim plover]

someone please tell me that ||L is actually just old lysandre||

[jade ocean]

Well it already has one

[sacred harbor]

Jude

[jade ocean]

That's like

[sacred harbor]

Yes

[jade ocean]

The entire Misdreavus style of stat spread

But like

[dim plover]

HELL YEAH

[sacred harbor]

But he has story

[jade ocean]

You get what I mean

And also give it the Fairy type

[dim plover]

yeah i just met him

they looked too similar for it to not be him

[sacred harbor]

I mean it’s obvious

[dim plover]

its pokemon, they'd tell you hes lysandre's great grandson or smth

[jade ocean]

Great Grandson 5 years into the future is crazy

[sacred harbor]

Fr

[jade ocean]

One that looks older than him too

[dim plover]

lol

[jade ocean]

Bro met Dr Turo I guess

[sacred harbor]

My favorite part of the final fight

Lion ladder can be real

[plucky dune]

lol

[jade ocean]

Yknow I know when to share my opinions in the most over the top exaggerated way possible like I do often with Flutter Mane

But I sure as hell am not gonna be able to do that with the new Megas

[plucky dune]

"ZEHPPPPP" zygard 2025

[jade ocean]

I'd get publicly executed

[sacred harbor]

Why

Do it

[jade ocean]

And that's generally not favourable

I like being alive

At least currently

[sacred harbor]

Tell me bruh

[plucky dune]

MEGA DRAGALGY IS BETTER THEN MEGA FLYGONE.......... does anyone have pitchforks yet

[jade ocean]

||Firstly, I fucking LOVE Mega Barbaracle, he's an aurafarming bastard and I love him for it||

[sacred harbor]

LOL

that’s valid I don’t mind his design

I just never liked him as a mon much

[jade ocean]

It isn't hard to be better than something that doesn't exist

[plucky dune]

fair

[sacred harbor]

I hate how ppl call megs lazy when megs charizard y is just charizard

[jade ocean]

But also I fucking vibe with ||Mega Dragalge's|| design too and I have 0 clue why

It's probably partially because of the cancer beam

[sacred harbor]

I lowkey killed it to fast to look at it

[jade ocean]

Also I like base ||Dragalge|| a lot too

[plucky dune]

but like i think dragalge deserved the mega more then flygon because of how underground his hype is

[jade ocean]

The only worry I have is it not getting a good ability

[sacred harbor]

Weren’t all abilities leaked

[jade ocean]

Because it has a very strong one to top in Adaptability

[plucky dune]

like flygon is cool but he is popular... dragalge is not but i love him so im happy that dragalges happy

[jade ocean]

Nope!

All the ability data we have is of the base forms

[sacred harbor]

What

||then why am i hearing darkrai getting no gsurd||

[jade ocean]

The most we can infer is that, since Mega Medicham has an extra 40 Attack and Mega Mawile has an extra 42 Attack, ||Mega Starmie in actuality will have 100 Attack and Huge/Pure Power||

[jade ocean]

||It's a joke||

||We also don't even know Darkrai's stats yet||

||Let alone ability||

[hazy knot]

I have beaten the game really big fan of mega ||meganium|| and mega ||excadrill|| now

we don’t have to spoiler that, do we?

[jade ocean]

Probably not but I do so to be safe

[sacred harbor]

I think it’s personal preference atp

[jade ocean]

Anyways I wonder how many people named their ||Mega Excadrills|| Simon the Digger

[hazy knot]

makes sense 👍

[plucky dune]

how do i make the spoiler text thing

[hazy knot]

put || on both sides

[sacred harbor]

What

I do “/spoiler

[plucky dune]

"/spoiler test

[hazy knot]

didn’t know you could do that

[sacred harbor]

Ight bro

[jade ocean]

I prefer || personally

[sacred harbor]

Without the “

[jade ocean]

OK I do have a very cold take

[sacred harbor]

To lazy to find it / is faster

[jade ocean]

Mega Drampa is PEAK

[sacred harbor]

They gave him a thunderbolt with no electric type

[jade ocean]

But most already agree

[plucky dune]

||Ok not to sound bad but the mega linup for the dlc (minus the legendarys) doesnt seem that spectacular.||

[sacred harbor]

Og I think they only have him a mega cuz they didn’t have a normal mega other then him if I’m thinking

[plucky dune]

yay yay it works

[jade ocean]

||Idk though I'm a massive fucking Glimmora fan so I like it's inclusion||

||Definitely not a mon I'd expect to get a Mega, nor is it one that needs it||

[sacred harbor]

Mega absol z is stupid

[jade ocean]

||But like, Lucario is getting a 2nd fucking Mega||

||When Mega Lucario's already a top 5 Mega, maybe top 10||

||Balance is not a consideration||

[plucky dune]

||im sad we wont get mega clawitzer gang like he is such a cool gen 6 mon and he deserves a mega||

[jade ocean]

||Dragalge getting a Mega and Clawitzer not getting a Mega is some type of Glalie Froslass shit||

||Or Beedrill Butterfree||

[sacred harbor]

I mean only 2 or 3 were considered viable but ok

[jade ocean]

||Clawitzer's about to get a Gmax form in Legends Darkest Day or some shit and it's gonna be DOGSHIT||

||Literally gonna be worse than the Dmax||

[plucky dune]

||like what if it was like regi draco where the shimp is in a giant dragon claw.||

[jade ocean]

||I guarantee you||

[jade ocean]

I'm referring to Singles here

[sacred harbor]

Is that what the games called

[jade ocean]

I give 0 shits about Competitive Doubles if I'm being real

[jade ocean]

I have 0 clue, ||and their existence is a mere myth||

[sacred harbor]

Darkest day is tuff can’t wait to see a hella pixelated gmax tyrant

[jade ocean]

But like

My condolences for having to deal with Flutter Mane

And not being able to just remove it from existence

That's rough

[plucky dune]

||i heard that the game wont tak eplace durring darkest day and will happen in like the year 3000 or somthin||

[sacred harbor]

What if I said flutter mane was my favorite Mon ever

[jade ocean]

Then I'd politely disagree with your opinion

[sacred harbor]

Soft

[plucky dune]

your wrong the best is obviously slitherwing

https://tenor.com/view/slither-wing-plush-plushie-slither-wing-pokemon-pokemon-gif-16720470673390361479

[sacred harbor]

Can you fall for the rage bait more

[jade ocean]

Best Past Paradox for sure

[storm fog]

I made this using my Alpha Scolipede's big dumb stare

[jade ocean]

I literally have that plush

I fucking love Slither Wing

Base Volcarona no diffs though

[plucky dune]

he is best boy for sure

[plucky dune]

ACTUALLY NO THIS IS BEST BOY

[plucky dune]

also i think they are horns but im not sure

[storm fog]

They're antennae

[plucky dune]

ahhhhhh gotcha

[sacred harbor]

🤓

[storm fog]

Which are basically ears that smell

[jade ocean]

Bro's head is so empty ❤️

Peak image

Also Scolipede does use them as horns presumably

I mean

It has Megahorn

[sacred harbor]

Mega horn

[jade ocean]

What the fuck else would be a horn

[sacred harbor]

But like are you gonna say antlers are horns?

Cuz xernous

[jade ocean]

Are you gonna say these are antlers?

[plucky dune]

||ok L is over here saying "idk why that detective is so suspicius of me" even tho a few years pryer he tried to END THE WORLD.||

[jade ocean]

These are clearly more horn-like

[jade ocean]

||His memory's broken, and the truth goes unspoken||

[sacred harbor]

I’m saying not every Mon with mega horn actually has horns

Just spikes

Type body part

[jade ocean]

Fair enough

I wouldn't call tusks horns

[plucky dune]

i guess thats acurate

[sacred harbor]

This is explained

[storm fog]

Do not ask this about Scolipede to a furry

[jade ocean]

But Large Teeth does learn it

[sacred harbor]

LOL

What the freaky ah furry

[jade ocean]

I still have 0 clue what they see in it

It's a massive angry centipede

[plucky dune]

bro i wanted to see some cute art of scolopede and granted most art was him as a cute goober. but there were a few..... thats all........

[storm fog]

It's a bug horse. A horse bug. A hug.

Or a buse

[sacred harbor]

It’s a monster

[jade ocean]

Bro if that's a horse then Melmetal is a bird

[plucky dune]

or the right answer is he is a bus

[sacred harbor]

Your trippin

[storm fog]

Scolipede is a cross between a centipede and a centaur

[plucky dune]

he just gives bus energy

[jade ocean]

Scolipede is NOT a horse

I refuse to believe it

What in the world about this design is horse-like

[sacred harbor]

I’m saying it’s closer to a horse then mental is a bird

[storm fog]

It stands on 4 hooved legs

[plucky dune]

think of it scolopede started as a kid bug then went in a wheel then became a big long bug..... the wheels on the bus full of chicldren go round and round

[sacred harbor]

So does a cow

[storm fog]

Sorry to say but those are horse legs

[storm fog]

Cows have different hooves than a horse.

[jade ocean]

What kind of horses do you fucking see what

[sacred harbor]

Uhmhorses have long long legs

[jade ocean]

Am I stupid

[sacred harbor]

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT5wEetVsz_Po0FpHYO3edi7behQA86bRXtV8qpkQVGQ-tc6x0FxwQCBGr1X_LslfQSFxugYallcSsZQ3NYvAiejJl8UFbfughLIrpfgA

And his back legs are bent the wrong way

[plucky dune]

wait what if scolopede is a glorifide mini van

trust

[sacred harbor]

No

[storm fog]

Nope. They're the same way

[sacred harbor]

So horses break there front legs?

[storm fog]

No, you're just looking at it wrong

[sacred harbor]

Pretty sure I’m not

Unless your saying that the leg has no knee in which then it definitely isn’t a horse

[plucky dune]

this is a very in deep discussion about the big catapiller centipede

[storm fog]

Scolipede also distinctly gallops like a horse

[sacred harbor]

Go ahead and point out the knee of the bug I’ll wait

[storm fog]

https://tenor.com/view/scolipede-run-pokemon-animation-cycle-gif-16390455

[sturdy flower]

just fyi, the last part of a horse's leg, which has another joint and in that image is darker, is the foot

and the hoof is a finger

[sacred harbor]

I can’t think hard enough to understand what you just said

[storm fog]

The main difference between horse legs and Scolipede's legs is that the joints are located a bit differently

[sacred harbor]

Making it not a horse

If your saying the legs are the main thing it’s horse like

[storm fog]

No, it makes it a fucked up horse. Horse legs are unique

[jade ocean]

I was gonna say how usually a different term is used

But that term is censored

Probably because of fetishes

[plucky dune]

yikes

[jade ocean]

But have you ever seen someone say even-fingered ungulates?

[storm fog]

Phalanx?

[jade ocean]

It's always that other word

[plucky dune]

wait...

[sacred harbor]

Ya this defently not the same as th bug that’s for sure

[storm fog]

I don't know what the censored word is

[plucky dune]

GANG FALINKS IS A HORSE

[sacred harbor]

Oh naw bro

[sturdy flower]

not the same type of phalanx

[sacred harbor]

Don’t get me started

[jade ocean]

They're clearly silly little guys

[plucky dune]

fair

[storm fog]

It's the same as the horse. The joints are just located differently. The way it bends still makes it a horse

[sturdy flower]

it literally is

[sacred harbor]

Falinks is clearly a 1-1 model of a cow

[plucky dune]

||although they do have a goofy mega and i love it its like a voltron of sorts||

[jade ocean]

Also I could see how you could find it similar based on this

But like

I just do not see horse

When I look at the giant angry horned charging centipede

[sacred harbor]

That’s ai

[jade ocean]

I also want to note that by Bulbapedia's terms, Silvally is a cat

[plucky dune]

so wait im lost is it a horse or is it not a horse... or is my theory of it being a bus the best one

[jade ocean]

Or at least, mostly a cat

[storm fog]

It is, since it's based on a gryphon.

[jade ocean]

Bulbapedia says it is based of a griffin

[sacred harbor]

That’s definitely wrong

[dim plover]

man i'm just trying to reach rank K in the battle club for a chesnaughtite and everyone has like mega everything

[jade ocean]

I'm pretty sure you can only get Greninja's Mega stone rn

[dim plover]

damn

[jade ocean]

Ngl looking at this closer?

Maybe Bulbapedia actually may have a point

[storm fog]

Rank K is pretty easy. Even if you lose you still gain points. I managed to get to it without using my mega evolutions

[jade ocean]

I'm not budging on Scolipede though

That one I just can't see any similarity at all

[plucky dune]

will ash greninja ever return cause greninja now has a mega stone so it removes the point of ash greninja and they also changed battle bond

[jade ocean]

I dont think so

[sacred harbor]

I see the galloping sure but that’s like saying because something walks on 2 legs it’s a penguin

[jade ocean]

Tbf it'd be more accurate to compare it with waddling

[sacred harbor]

Same point

[jade ocean]

Mainly associated with waterfowl

[storm fog]

A horse's gallop is completely unique though.

No other animal runs like that

[jade ocean]

So they are decently closely related

Well, maybe apart from the Penguin

Idk

[sacred harbor]

Cheetahs

[jade ocean]

I'm not an expert bird guy

[sacred harbor]

Cheetahs gallop when they sprit

Sprint

[sturdy flower]

dude Cheetahs do not run like horses

[storm fog]

Cheetahs don't gallop like horses do.

[plucky dune]

what if we just say scolopede...... is scolopede then it is 100% correct

[sacred harbor]

Yes they do 😭

[jade ocean]

True...

[storm fog]

If a horse tried to run the way a cheetah does, it would break its legs and die

[balmy arch]

Yo tous le mondz je voudrais savoir si y a des joueur de Z-A qui accepterais de maider pour finir mon PokéDex avec seulement les Evolution part echange ( Sorry Fr )

[storm fog]

They only run like cheetahs in paintings because horse galloping was too fast for people to study, and it turned out to be completely wrong.

[jade ocean]

I feel like that applies for almost anything tbf cheetahs are entirely built to be fast

[sacred harbor]

It’s still galloping

[dim plover]

is ||the pebble zygarde gives you like a super mega stone or smth?||

[storm fog]

It's not the same

[sacred harbor]

Want the spoiler

[jade ocean]

Cats walk

And so do humans

[sacred harbor]

Neither is the bugs

[jade ocean]

Thus, it is the same

[dim plover]

give me a vague description

[sturdy flower]

clearly the same

[sacred harbor]

That’s just different bone structure not the actuation itself

Action

[storm fog]

The action is entirely different. Cheetahs are more bouncing off of the ground while horses are running with all 4 legs

[sturdy flower]

it's not even the same action

[sacred harbor]

Google it 😭

[sturdy flower]

horses always have one hoof touching the floor except in what would be gathered flight

[storm fog]

Dude I literally sent the full gait of both animals

[sturdy flower]

cheetah don't touch the ground in extended flight as well

[sacred harbor]

Is galloping not the action

[storm fog]

Humans can gallop too. That doesn't make it the same gallop

[sturdy flower]

plus their skeletons are very different so they literally can't move the same way

[sacred harbor]

What

That shit makes no sense

[jade ocean]

Bears can be considered to be able to gallop as well

Just saying

Would you say a bear galloping is the same as a cheetah or horse?

[sacred harbor]

Yes

[jade ocean]

Or human for that matter

[sturdy flower]

dude I've already explained why horses have a completely unique skeletal structure

[storm fog]

The only thing that makes it a gallop is when all feet are not touching the ground at some point

[dim plover]

i love it when 3 other people steal my well deserved kill right out from under me causing me to get 4th place

[jade ocean]

Joever

[sturdy flower]

also the point of the discussion wasn't even "do cheetahs gallop", it was "do cheetahs gallop exactly like horses"

which is a different question with a different answer

[sacred harbor]

No I mentioned that to say just cuz it gallops doesn’t mean it’s a horse

[sturdy flower]

who the fuck said that

[storm fog]

Point is that Scolipede gallops specifically like a horse. The way its legs move and bend are that of a horse. The only difference is where the joints are located. Basically like having a knee futher up or down.

[sacred harbor]

That’s why he’s saying it’s a horse no?

[jade ocean]

OK then, is a galloping crocodile the same as a galloping horse?

[sturdy flower]

cuban crocodile mentioned

[sacred harbor]

It doesn’t even bend it’s front knees that is not horse like at all

[storm fog]

Yes it does

https://tenor.com/view/scolipede-run-pokemon-animation-cycle-gif-16390455

[sacred harbor]

Where in that are the front knees moving

[sturdy flower]

they're very clearly moving

a lot too

[dim plover]

kill stealing feels amazing

just obliterated a mega slowbro to get 1st place

[sturdy flower]

i SPECIFICALLY explained that that part at the bottom of the leg isn't the lower arm

[sacred harbor]

I must be blind

[sturdy flower]

it's the FOOT

[plucky dune]

oh i do love atomizing emolgas with ice beam from my giant lobster gun

[sacred harbor]

I’m talking about this btw

[dim plover]

Hell yeah.

[storm fog]

That's the part of the horse that can't bend

[sacred harbor]

Mmm I see it now

[sacred harbor]

What

[storm fog]

Like, it doesn't straighten out

I dunno it's like 5 AM right now

[jade ocean]

Anyways since we're talking about Scolipede

I may as well talk about its Mega

It's cool

[jade ocean]

I think it's just a bit too bulky though

But I mean

It does have a lot lower speed

[sturdy flower]

as i said, that's the wrist

[jade ocean]

So that's probably the intention

[dim plover]

theres no way tyrantrum is only 8 feet tall

[sacred harbor]

This isn’t a knee?

[storm fog]

What did they mean by this

[sturdy flower]

no, it's a wrist

[sacred harbor]

Yo what

Then point out the knee

[sturdy flower]

i literally sent an image to explain that

like 10 mins ago, maybe more