pokemon-winds-waves

[little nacelle]

||all the other ones are.||

[daring finch]

Oh okay

So I have a shiny one of the latter for nothing then

[little nacelle]

there's always dlc

also

spoiler

wait nvm

[daring finch]

Meh I dont say its name and I dont think that people know I have this shiny

||Absolute bs tho||

||Gimme mega swampert||

[little nacelle]

||pay up 30 dollars bucko||

[hazy knot]

||my goat 😔||

[little nacelle]

||gogoat is in the game actually||

[daring finch]

||Also I think I did a certain mega better than the game, that being mega drampa||

[hazy knot]

||mega swampert is my goat||

[little nacelle]

||but swampert's a axolotl/mudskipper?||

[hazy knot]

||nuh uh||

||Mega Trevenant||

[daring finch]

||Wooper also isnt in cant be a 10/10 game||

[little nacelle]

i love how most of my team is practically the same as when i started the game

[hazy knot]

||WDYM THEY HAVE TALONFLAME IN THE GAME||

[daring finch]

I am just gonna transfer the shinies I hunted in sv that can mega evolve

[hazy knot]

wool

[daring finch]

||Its a game based on gen6||

[hazy knot]

alola

[little nacelle]

i've been giving it that name since i first saw a mareep back in gen 2... lmao

[daring finch]

Legends alola when

[hazy knot]

tomorrow

[daring finch]

Yay

Cant wait for mega incineroar

[hazy knot]

John gamefreak told me they were working on it

also the starters are primarina, EMBOAR, and decidueye

[little nacelle]

i should evolve this one

[hazy knot]

they’re all getting megas!

[little nacelle]

WRONG!

[daring finch]

Yr getting a mega

A mega stinky

[hazy knot]

two of them, leaving emboar with three

[daring finch]

Gottem

[hazy knot]

You

[daring finch]

I said that yes

[little nacelle]

the starters are Treecko, Torchic and Quaxly

[daring finch]

Okay duke

Who should I shiny hunt for in sv for mega ||Hawlucha|| or ||Dratini||

[little nacelle]

i like ZA lmao

[hazy knot]

snivy, litten, popplio

It’s true

[daring finch]

I think pokemon has regrets making cyndaquil a starter in pla

[little nacelle]

not really

[daring finch]

Now every starter from gen 1-3 has a mega except that guy

[little nacelle]

my guess on why these three were chosen...

[daring finch]

My guess is they wanted the gen 2 starters to have megas but didnt want to use cyndaquil again

[little nacelle]

1. "they wouldn't pick another gen 2, 5 or 7 again, right?"
2. "SUPRISE!"

[daring finch]

Imma play pokemon and shiny hunt the ||Flying bird||

[little nacelle]

spoiler

[hazy knot]

so next region will have 2 gen 7 and 1 gen 5

It’s true

And confirmed

[daring finch]

I think this is pretty common knowledge

If you know ZA has megas and those starters they would obv give em megas

[hazy knot]

legends: GAY (gigantamax)

[daring finch]

Its about me

[hazy knot]

idk where the other letters came from but yeah

[little nacelle]

this game is

genuinely fun

[daring finch]

I hope so

I paid 509 bucks for it

[hazy knot]

Nuh uh

[little nacelle]

isnt a switch 2 500 on its own

[daring finch]

Nope

[little nacelle]

oh yeah thats js the americans

[daring finch]

470 on its own 509 with pokemon

[hazy knot]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-positive-quotes-positivity-gif-6412704678195317292

[daring finch]

Piss

[hazy knot]

True

Party hat

[little nacelle]

i like this game

:>

OH MY GOD A NEW POKEMON/jk

[drowsy veldt]

||why is it mad at you?||

[hazy knot]

||MEGA SLOWKING|| THEY FINALLY DID IT NO WAY

[little nacelle]

||rogue mega||

oh hi

@hazy knot I JUST GOT THE MOST OP ITEM EVER

this thing is gamebreaking

...

[brave ginkgo]

Leaked Darkrai Mega

[little nacelle]

his intro plays

[little nacelle]

omg...

[little nacelle]

MAJOR STORY SPOILERS

[lilac karma]

https://tenor.com/view/ride-dawn-big-bird-sesame-street-gif-6979358409740572143

[hazy knot]

It’s peak

[hazy knot]

It’s also peak i guess bro

[brave ginkgo]

Whoops sorry that was the wrong photo, he actualy has more than one change, see?

[hazy knot]

Spoiler it bruh 🙏

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-no-way-shocked-surprised-omg-gif-16935646637611070933

[little nacelle]

wtfwtf wtf wtf

[little nacelle]

I DID IT!

holy fuck

[indigo mango]

is the pokeball symbol always over the mons or why is it there

looks ass

[grave bloom]

Is that mfing lysander.

[forest egret]

Very strange that the returning megas are like, using their older models. It's pretty noticeable next to ones like Venusaur whose normal form got a model change a while ago

[slate loom]

just another 5 hours till I can play ;3;

[tawdry flame]

6 hours for me

[jade ocean]

Ok I get that most people don't have the game

But like

I really really need a Dusk Stone

So if anyone knows where a Dusk Stone is that info would be greatly appreciated

You do unlock it to buy via story progression

But I've gotten every other stone that needs to be unlock

As items on the floor

So I'm under the assumption the same applies for the Dusk Stone

[little nacelle]

fainted

normally isn't like that

just if your mons are fainted

btw deltarune people

[indigo mango]

i bought me the physical, its gonna show up tomorrow but family might wanna get somewhere...if so im gonna miss the delievery and have to wait an extra day

[slate loom]

damn unfortuinate

[little nacelle]

||You can leave Lumiose City.||

[slate loom]

I never buy physical in this day and age, I WILL lose it somehow

[little nacelle]

||there's a moment to this||

[slate loom]

|| Wait are there actually more locations? ||

[little nacelle]

JOKE SPOILER BUT STILL ZA RELATED ||no the game gives you like 3 prompts to NOT do it, and then if you get on the train you just magically get teleported onto the bench at the pokecenter right outside the station||

[slate loom]

Gotcha

[little nacelle]

aka gamefreak ||made a joke||

[slate loom]

|| Love that, gives me actual faith in this game all of a sudden. Takes at least a LITTLE heart to do that ||

[little nacelle]

however i do want to say ||the game's actually pretty fun! they make lots of neat jokes and callbacks.||

[little nacelle]

oh yeah here's how the game looks during a SPECIFIC PLOT RELEVANT EVENT

this itself doesn't have a spoiler in it over what it actually is

just a photo of lumiose

it usually also looks like this without that event

[drowsy veldt]

Lumiose spoiled!
-# jk

[little nacelle]

just fog that's harder to get in that scenario i think

[spare roost]

I can't wait to go to vandendamille town

[severe pier]

||The whole Flower tower thing?||

[little nacelle]

no if that was the case ||lumiose's prism tower would not be ok||

[severe pier]

oh right right

[tidal sand]

guessing we can't talk about Mega Dimension here

[severe pier]

you can just spoiler tag it

[tidal sand]

ok

[severe pier]

"||" on each side of the text

[tidal sand]

yep

can't believe || they giving mfs a 2nd mega, and those gen 9 mons already ||

|| i'm cool with the rest tho ||

[jade ocean]

||I don't think there will be many other chances for the Gen 9 mons to get Megas, so I don't see the issue here||

||I'm quite doubtful that there will be more new Megas after ZA||

[spare roost]

|| Goli better become a bullet bill||

[tidal sand]

True

[jade ocean]

||I guess maybe in Kalos Remakes?||

||Cant say I understand 2nd Megas for Absol and Lucario||

[tidal sand]

|| why must they make a cooler water samurai after samurott 🥹 , give samurott a meh regional variant and pry going to give Goli a peak Mega design ||

[jade ocean]

||But Mega Garchomp is so dogshit that it may as well not exist||

||In terms of Competitive I mean||

||Literally why ever use it over base Garchomp||

||So it's basically Garchomp's 1st Mega||

[tidal sand]

|| I wonder how the Z Megas will differ||

[jade ocean]

||At least from the Competitive viewpoint that I prefer to look at things in for Megas||

||With that said, I think it'd be pretty easy to make Mega Glimmora different from Base Glimmora without having one be just 100% better than the other||

[tidal sand]

|| Fan favs get all the fun except Flygon||

[jade ocean]

||Base Glimmora has 1 purpose, lead with a Focus Sash to get as many hazards before dying||

||But it has very good SpA, and quite solid Speed||

||Well, for a suicide lead||

||Well actually tbf suicide leads are fast||

[tidal sand]

|| Now Mega glimorra auto toxpike every turn ||

[jade ocean]

||Except like Smeargle||

[drowsy veldt]

There is a lot of black ink here

[tidal sand]

is that what we calling it

[jade ocean]

||But I think Mega Glimmora should focus more on dealing damage, whether as a Sweeper or Wallbreaker||

[drowsy veldt]

Idk. I'm just copying halo reach trailer regarding noble 6

[tidal sand]

|| And Auto Tox Spikes right? ||

[jade ocean]

||That way, it can seperate itself from base Glimmora and one will not fully outclass the other||

[jade ocean]

||No, because that'd make it outclass base Glimmora pretty hard||

[tidal sand]

isn't that what megas do?

[jade ocean]

||I think it'd be interesting if they served different roles||

||Also, if you want Mega Glimmora to be a better hazard setter than Glimmora, you need like||

||Crazy minmaxing so that you get good Defence, SpD, SpA and Speed boosts||

||Then you need fucking As One Levitate Toxic Debris||

||Since you can't hold Focus Sash and no amount of bulk is saving you from Ground moves||

[tidal sand]

|| I could see it ||

[jade ocean]

||They ain't giving Mega Glimmora As One Levitate Toxic Debris||

||Mega Baxcalibur is probably just gonna be batshit broken||

[tidal sand]

true

[jade ocean]

||Like, think of how Mega Mence is better than Salamence but does suffer from losing Heavy-Duty Boots||

||Mega Bax is just gonna be that||

||Except Base Bax is already broken||

||Literal strongest Pseudo Legendary||

||Also I am hilariously overleveled rn in ZA my Emboar's level 67||

[tidal sand]

we'll see how the mega plays out tho

[tidal sand]

I wonder what ability they plan to give M Emboar

[jade ocean]

||Same||

[tidal sand]

ig thats for all except Starmie

Like how many new abilities they plan to add here

guessing half will keep their

or over half

Interesting || Tatsugiri gets a mega, will this relate to its counter part ? (Dondozo) ||

Each || Tatsugiri type better not get their own unique mega ||

|| It would be interesting Dondozo does get a Mega Evo but only when Combined with Mega Tatsugiri lol ||

[sacred harbor]

There isn’t double battles tho

[slate loom]

but showdown will have it

[robust wren]

||My idea for Mega Glimmora was going from primo TSpike Setter to crit sweeping with Merciless||

||that ability can't be stuck on something that doesn't want to use it forever, it's too cool to be left there doing nothing||

[jade ocean]

||Why has every trainer with a Garbodor I've fought instantly tried to kill it with Self Destruct||

[robust wren]

||Garbodor has become self aware, and knows how disliked it is.||

[little nacelle]

https://youtu.be/CkqxxJzSjjg?si=T3P95SPjbPHMDcPI

Meme for XY STILL RINGS TRUE

[jade ocean]

||First the homing (Pin Missiles) and now a fucking Moonblast Airstrike||

||These Rogue Megas are CRAZY and I fucking love them||

||If I'm being real they're my favourite part of the game so far||

[gray canopy]

is it true the entire city is one big 3d model?

[little nacelle]

Backface culling

[gray canopy]

What

[robust wren]

||How crazy do you think powerscalers will go over Mega Froslass being able to freeze fire and wind according to the Dex?||

[civic cave]

i clicked on a za spoiler and i regret it

[robust wren]

Anyone else looking forward to the eventual TerminalMontage/Lockistin Mega Evolution Battle Royale 2?

[jade ocean]

||Ice is Super Effective against Flying anyways so the only real surprise is freezing Fire||

[drowsy veldt]

||i am guessing frozen fire will not be explained as to how that's possible||

[jade ocean]

||The explanation is that it's Pokemon||

||The same series that, if it conformed to the laws of physics, would instantly implode as soon as Lanturn flashes its lights||

[robust wren]

||at the very least I can be happy that they actually made Mega Froslass the special sweeper it was meant to be, becoming one of two actually effective Ice type special sweepers||

[rustic rapids]

Chat is the game good? (Whoever is playing it rn)

[jade ocean]

||Don't question it||

[jade ocean]

Idk but I fucking love the Rogue Megas (they were shown in a trailer I don't need to spoiler text this)

[robust wren]

||I remember theorycrafting a Mega Froslass having Snow Warning several years ago, but I feel like with the stats it has as it is, that might be a bit too strong||

[jade ocean]

||It deserves it honestly base Froslass was done so dirty||

||80/80||

||Anyways on the topic of offensive stats, 216 fucking SpA||

||That's still so crazy to me||

[robust wren]

||They really wanted Core Enforcer to be a usable move, and overcompensated to hell and back||

[jade ocean]

||What's even more crazy is that Mega Evolving Zygarde turns Core Enforcer into a different move that is basically just Dragon Type Special Thousand Arrows||

[slate loom]

just another 7 minutes for the americas

[robust wren]

||I'm just saying, Mega Froslass winning VGC games off of base 140 perfect accuracy Blizzard getting cheeky freezes might just be what it takes for Freeze to be replaced by Frostbite||

||I can already see it leading to quite a few online matches that "unfortunate" doesn't even begin to describe||

[woeful flume]

4 mins now

[jade ocean]

||If that happens, good riddance, Freeze sucks Frostbite is better||

[robust wren]

||100% agreed. Special sweepers need something to rein them in||

[olive panther]

I have the game but can't play it for another hour. Stupid work.

[sturdy flower]

it's getting gifted to me so I won't be able to play until my birthday in 10 days

[opaque osprey]

Traveling to game shop to pick up my Pre-ordered copy

Ngl, I regretted not pre-ordering via Pokémon Center early. Could have gotten the Art book as well

[autumn torrent]

||To short. 10 mins in and ||

[dim plover]

this gotta be fake its been 2 hours since it came out

[autumn torrent]

**Nope. **

[opaque osprey]

Alright, got my copy

[dim plover]

so it is fake because its a code

[dim plover]

Hell yeah

[autumn torrent]

Nope. Had game for days no code change since day 1 patch

[odd cave]

Can you obtain the ranked mega stones as well?

[autumn torrent]

Yep

[odd cave]

[autumn torrent]

Even ||God Mode||

[dim plover]

ngl i just thought people stopped doing pokemon cheat codes after the DS era

[radiant otter]

not really sure if this counts as a spoiler or not but the team so far is looking nice

[dim plover]

none of them are new pokemon so not really

[radiant otter]

fair enough

[storm bone]

Getting ZA on Monday I only have to survive 3 more days without spoil

[daring finch]

Theres pokemon in it

[dim plover]

https://tenor.com/view/jojos-bizarre-adventure-joseph-shocked-surprised-oh-my-god-gif-8313483

[storm bone]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointment-disappointed-food-review-meme-gif-16003613

[little nacelle]

Also, you're in Lumiose City

[sturdy flower]

all of these except for one can or will be able to megaevolve once fully evolved

[storm bone]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-mario-depressed-mario-walking-in-rain-mario-sad-depressed-gif-6943075901738095231

[sweet crag]

There is two that cannot megaevolve

[plucky escarp]

switch 2 and game need to arrive faster

[dim plover]

i need to get a switch 2

i wasnt going to buy it until i got to hold one at a nintendo booth at an event in my town and me and my buddy could just not stop fawning over it for like 30 minutes

[plucky escarp]

ZA was enough of a reason to finally upgrade for me

i played it a for about 12 hours in the last couple of days, i like it a lot

means I can get caught back up on MKart and get the Zelda games running smoother too

kind of been waiting for a good excuse to get one

[little nacelle]

two

perfectly balanced as all things should be

[daring finch]

@plucky escarp

[plucky escarp]

hah nice

[dire plume]

First shiny let's go!!

[brazen jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/az-floette-pokemon-pokemon-amie-poke-puff-happy-gif-16326122922440918686

[brazen jetty]

already??

[daring finch]

Zamn

[brazen jetty]

[dire plume]

Lil dude was just chillin in a tree, wasn't even trying for it lol

[plucky escarp]

now i gotta get outta this chat before i see things

[daring finch]

Same

[daring finch]

Did it give a sound?

Or is it a sv sorta deal?

[dire plume]

Yup, exact same sound as arceus

[daring finch]

Alright I wont get anxiety I missed one then

[dire plume]

And it sparkles as you observe it, so no doubts in ur mind

[plucky escarp]

you can hear them? good to know

i was obsessively checking every mon last i played

[dire plume]

Apparently they put a LOT of protection in place to avoid failing shinies, you can even accidentally leave into a different zone, come back, and it'll still be there

[daring finch]

Damn

[dire plume]

Like, go in a building

[daring finch]

I did transfer some shinies from sv to home just in case

[dire plume]

Hense why autosave is always active, you won't need to worry about saving in front of shinies anymore

Thank God lmao

[plucky escarp]

~~ i will still do it anyway ~~

[dire plume]

Same tbh lol

Can't take ANY chances

[plucky escarp]

[wary remnant]

i gotta be honest, i am not clicking with the battle system yet

feels really weird

[daring finch]

I think it feels better once you get better and cooler moves

[sweet crag]

Mega ||Zygarde|| is

[wary remnant]

i just don't get exactly how much control i have over the pokemon

[plucky escarp]

i really like it

[wary remnant]

oh ok

[plucky escarp]

its two ||

protect is based in ZA

[sweet crag]

Thx

[plucky escarp]

anyways im getting outta this chat fr this time

[daring finch]

https://tenor.com/view/spoiler-alert-spoiler-go-time-gif-13921804794138892823

Okay me aswell noe

[forest egret]

Monter

[wary remnant]

but yeah like am i supposed to be trying to dodge? is there a certain way i should be moving beyond just running around to get the right camera angle?

[quiet frost]

i know people are like disappointed with some of the new megas but... i like them all

i think they all have merit to them once you understand the inspirations and logic behind them

[sweet crag]

I agree

[forest egret]

I don't

[quiet frost]

and that's your opinion and thats okay

[sweet crag]

Especially ||mega Zygarde||

[quiet frost]

the only one i don't really care for is ||eelektross|| but i never really cared about him to begin with

[quiet frost]

is that my glorious king scolipede

[sweet crag]

And ||mega floette||

[quiet frost]

like i don't think any of them are inherently bad designs

[slate loom]

|| I love the Alpha pokemon we have, Alpha Scoliopede is friggen huge ||

[quiet frost]

people saying like "oh this one is too silly!" as if the pokemon they made silly were ever meant to be seen as intimidating

and also like mega slowbro literally exists so i dont see why dragonite being a little silly is a problem

anyways. if i get the game im picking my girl chikorita 💜

[dire plume]

Fit check :3 god I love that you can cross dress in this game

[slate loom]

I hated the tutorial so much v~v

[little nacelle]

yeah the tutorial is by far the biggest slog in the game

after that it's pretty good

but yeah it's bad for the tutorial lmao

oh yeah, i've been making a page about ZA on the fansite i run

[slate loom]

|| I just wanted to explore, but then my rival is like- Hey lets go see the tower! Oh you are trying to pick up that item? NAH two feet from it, im going to call you on your cell phone to tell you to turn around because I snuck parental tracking on it when I stole your phone number and downloaded the league app ||

[little nacelle]

currently just taking info i wrote down here and placing it into my site

[slate loom]

I am so overjoyed that || you can get fennekin so early ||

[little nacelle]

yeah!

i made a tutorial for that XD

[slate loom]

I looked up where to get them within the first few minutes of the game and I spent the ENTIRE tutorial trying to leave douche so that I could go save the fox. || then found out you cant until you are x rank anyway ||

I was super happy to get a female fennekin as well ^3^

[little nacelle]

my chespin was female lmao

...

can you

aha scam

got it

or am i wrong

[sweet crag]

No it was an image but i don't know how to spolier it

[little nacelle]

don't share suspicious google links here with zero context on what it is

are you on PC?

[sweet crag]

Phone

[little nacelle]

hmm

this pokemon is not in z a

[forest egret]

Idk why this tier list has some of the megas as really large images. Anyway here we go, updated from the previous post to include the pikachus, and some reordering

[fickle birch]

Just a heads up, dataminers have gotten into Z-A already, and have found lists of possible candidates for DLC Megas. 😮

[fickle birch]

Where is this tierlist? 🙂

[forest egret]

https://tiermaker.com/create/leaks-pokmon-legends-z-a-new-mega-evolutions-1613853?downloadedImage=true

[forest egret]

Now that the game's out you guys are free to relax on spoilering your messages by the way. If it's not endgame plot stuff or like, idk, ig maybe spoiler megas still since some here wanna be surprised still - i'd say other stuff is fair game

[little nacelle]

@forest egret i'm writing tohjo falls pages again hehehe

[sweet crag]

I don't see it on phone

[forest egret]

Nice

[forest egret]

Like I'm seeing people spoilering their teams and stuff, but you probably don't need to do that now in this chat

[little nacelle]

except for if a new mega is currently there

[forest egret]

I guess if you don't show what the mega looks like it's probably not the biggest deal in the world

[sweet crag]

Could someone answer me ?

[fickle birch]

I think this is how I feel about them after thinking about it. 🙂

[forest egret]

Nice

[wooden lion]

F tier game then

[forest egret]

It's definitely a mixed bag

I said this before in another chat but it does feel like a lot of the new megas are afraid to change the pokemon too much. There were always dudes like that even in gen 6, but it feels more apparent with this batch now

Even some of the ones I like are still guilty of this

[wooden lion]

Tbh I prefer the sillier / goofy megas over the super serious or cool fan megas ppl made

[forest egret]

I can go either way

[wooden lion]

Not gonna speak on the “leaked” megas but the I like a lot of the ones revealed officially, exceptions being Mega Dnite & Mega Delphox

[forest egret]

I quite like Mega Dragonite. It's render isn't very good but I think it looks great otherwise

[wooden lion]

(Ik the game is out which is why “leaked” is in quotes)

[little nacelle]

why is ||starmie in A.||

[wooden lion]

Yeah the render put me off but it’s ok in game, solid b tier for me

Mega Delphox is like the only d tier for me

[copper sequoia]

why are the rivals gender locked i want to play as a cute girl and have a cute girl as my rival :( i guess theres no point since the clothes arent gender locked but :(((

[forest egret]

So far Mega Malamar's like the only one that really feels like it has a really good render. The others are either average or bad

[wooden lion]

Mega Hawlucha’s render is pretty good

[forest egret]

It's ok

It's like perfectly competent but nothing special

[copper sequoia]

the kalos megas are comically plasticy

[wooden lion]

Malamar fans kinda ruined its mega for me

[forest egret]

Yeah, I'm not big on the weird toy look the renders go for. Will always prefer the 2d artworks we got prior

[opaque osprey]

Lmao
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[little nacelle]

yeah flame wheel is way too fucking broken lmao

HEY IS THAT THE LEVEL 25 ARIADOS

[forest egret]

That being said, I would still like to see renders for all the other megas we got since rn it's just in-game footage and shitty jpegs

[little nacelle]

im writing the tips and tricks rn

[copper sequoia]

tier list

i dont get the hate on mega greninja i think hes fun

[little nacelle]

THIS is how insane that ariados is

like im sorry but level 25 ariados lmao

the rest of the team was 10 or more levels under

[forest egret]

I don't really like him since he just kinda looks like normal greninja but upside down

[wooden lion]

||I actually like Mega Excadrill||

[copper sequoia]

You may be the only one im intrested though tell me what you see why do you like it

[little nacelle]

i honestly also think ||excadrill|| at least did something. ||Pyroar, Skarmory|| and the raichus were just... what the fuck. AND DONT GET ME STARTED ON ||starmie||

[forest egret]

Idk man. Like yeah he's got the blue horns but it just feels so baseline for a form change

[copper sequoia]

My opinions are probably gonna change once the 2d art comes in like i used to hate sneasler but the 2d art made me change my mind

[little nacelle]

once ||its claws go together it just becomes a genuine drill||

https://tenor.com/view/excadrill-pokémon-excadrill-iris-pokémon-iris-drill-gif-26936290

[copper sequoia]

Watch them be all stiff

[forest egret]

I hate that they just trace them now

Sugimori we miss you brother

[wooden lion]

||Big drill funny||

[copper sequoia]

You make a compelling argument

[forest egret]

I don't overly care for ||the drill thing since normal excadrill can just turn into one anyway||

[wooden lion]

||But it’s big now, it’s like the comically large spoon meme||

[forest egret]

I will give him this though, he does change himself just enough in my eyes

Not for the better though, Aesthetically he looks worse to me still but I guess credit where it's due

[wooden lion]

||I just really like drill weapons so Mega Excadrill looks cool to me||

[forest egret]

That's valid

You're not the first I've seen who likes him

[wooden lion]

||Out of the unrevealed megas I think Excadrill, Emboar, Froslass, Barbaricle and Starmie are my favorites||

[forest egret]

I'm happy ||Barbaracle|| turned out nice. I've always liked his design and the new form is real nice

He's kinda underrated as a base pokemon, atleast a little bit

[fickle birch]

I don't think we'll get 2D art, honestly. The SV art was pretty awful, and had a few literal traces of models. 🙁

[wooden lion]

||Yeah, it kinda gives me Seraphim vibes (I think seraphim are the 6 winged angels?)||

[fickle birch]

There's a reason we get renders now when we would have got art before. 😢

[little nacelle]

theres sugimori art of Dragonite

[storm bone]

There’s chance we do not get sugimori renders

[little nacelle]

hold on

ill get it

[fickle birch]

Is it in the same pose? 😮

[copper sequoia]

wait actually

[little nacelle]

guidebook

(not my image)

but theyre getting sugimori art, don't worry.

[copper sequoia]

ok thats cute i dont really care for mega dnite but this is nice

[forest egret]

Is it Sugimori? I think he's not making art anymore. Regardless there are a couple 2d artworks of Mega Dragonite and they look pretty good

[little nacelle]

We call most of the pokemon artwork just sugimori art since he used to make so much of the official 2d art

[forest egret]

That's fair

[little nacelle]

plus we don't usually get the credits on who drew/designed what

lmao

[forest egret]

I like that drawing. I was a little worried we wouldn't get this sorta art anymore but you've given me hope

[wooden lion]

||I like Mega Starmie cus it reminds me of a tokusatsu monster||

[fickle birch]

It's basically the same pose, but they actually fixed the face's perspective a little. 🙂

[forest egret]

He looks sick in the anime

[sturdy flower]

no, i said will be able to. only ||vivillon|| won't be able to megaevolve

[edgy palm]

At least with Mega Dragonite's shiny, the evolution line finally makes sense

[forest egret]

Comedian over here

[forest egret]

He looks real nice in blue

[quiet frost]

huh.. isnt the game supposed to have released already?

[edgy palm]

It is

[quiet frost]

im surprised they havent updated the pokedex website yet

you'd think they would put the new megas' artwork on already

[forest egret]

I think it's only been a few hours of official release

So we'll probably get them soon enough

[worldly cedar]

?tag mobilealt

[rotund edge]

For some phones, clicking the mobile links from the Google Doc returns a permission error. Use the links below:

• Game link: LINK
• Joiplay and RPG Maker: LINK

[sturdy flower]

||scolipede, eelektross and drampa gotta be up there too||

[wooden lion]

||Elektross & Dramps are good too, don’t like Scolipede that much, the stuff around its neck / head is too inflated||

[sweet crag]

This is beautiful

[drowsy veldt]

||calms the situation with a nuke?||

[fast cypress]

Mega pokemon allignment chart

[tepid flame]

https://youtu.be/RNDgmRC-83I?si=bpgOdVmu6D2j2d2f

They already got a complete speedrun playthrough of ZA out there

[robust wren]

||Mega Starmie just stretching out the legs is the opposite of well executed||

[finite totem]

also is it allowed to talk about emu/mods in this channel?

[tepid flame]

I mean we're not gonna help you with where to find them but sure

[charred sage]

||it's like someone saw the idle animation it has in the gen 1-3 games and decided "yea that's a concept"||

[sturdy flower]

sorry how exactly are ||chandelure and froslass silly at all||

[edgy palm]

I kinda like Scolipede... I wonder if it gets a type change

[finite totem]

got the game running

[edgy palm]

Maybe Speed Boost will be the ability so we don't have to try for it as the HA

[finite totem]

and dude this looks great when it doesnt crash

[charred sage]

yea a few of these will depend heavily on ability since that makes (sableye) or breaks (audino) megas for the most part

that being said some of those stat spreads (||victreebel|| most notably) will require something absurd to save them from the reject pile

[little nacelle]

wdym poorly executed silly on ||barbaracle||

[sturdy flower]

yeah what, that's insane

also https://www.reddit.com/r/LegendsZA/s/2YPcOAxk2Q

[radiant otter]

i switched it up a bit i got a delphox and an absol

looking forward to using mega delphox whenever i can

[sturdy flower]

i looove both of their megas

I'm almost definitely getting online too, for a whole year probably

so I'm gonna get all three stones for sure

[little nacelle]

this is my team rn

oh yeah fun fact these guys have been in my team for AGES

[lime compass]

For how long have you been playing

You almost have lvl 50 mons

[little nacelle]

WAIT WHAT

emboars attack and special attack are close to identical on this lmao

aha

[little nacelle]

since the 13th

[lime compass]

If I buy the game what starter should I chose

[little nacelle]

who is your favorite of the three

[lime compass]

Uhhh all of them

[little nacelle]

then pick pancham

/joke

[lime compass]

Amazing

But I might not buy the game at all

[sturdy flower]

the one with the better mega

[jade ocean]

Hey does anyone know where the Dragon Pulse TM is

[lime compass]

Emboar is my favorite but feraligator is calling my name

[sturdy flower]

toilet gator

[indigo mango]

well ZA arrived today

i thought the pre order bonus was actually a pre order bonus but nah anyone can get it aslong as they goit the game before feb 2026

[little nacelle]

huh neat

[dusty forum]

How hard is it to get gen6 starters?

[little nacelle]

I've made a little guide one sec

Froakie is the hardest

it requires you to parkour

[dusty forum]

Ah, so it takes quite a while. Good to know, tho

Is it much the same with kanto?

Wait no you start at z

Brain fart

X isn't bad

[dusty forum]

Bro who the FUCK made these mega stat distributions

[sharp sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-legends-za-legends-za-malamar-malamar-pokemon-gif-14136439198133118086

Ohhhh you will ignore my dog shit stats ooooohhhh

[dusty forum]

Why is pyroar +20 to everything, who on God's green earth was worried about the power of pyroar

[jade ocean]

Some of them are on crack with 216 SpA and some of them are Malamar

[sharp sluice]

It makes sense now why the entire campaign was Malamar brainwashing people into liking it

[dusty forum]

What mega malamar needed: speed fighting type, a little more bulk

Somehow they fucked that up

[robust wren]

Also some of them bring the Pokemon to new heights with exactly what they needed or double down on what made them awful to begin with like Mega Victreebel

[dusty forum]

Skarmory was turned into a fucking monster

[jade ocean]

Delphox getting 0 boosts to Attack and mostly to Speed and SpA is nutty

[jade ocean]

Usually the Megas at least slightly boost the weaker attacking stat, no?

[robust wren]

Mega Beedrill aah boost, but without the base being as ass as base Beedrill

[dusty forum]

45 points in malamar's special defense is questionable
But 30 to special attack is damning

[dusty forum]

Skarmory's sure didn't

Like

Thag should be a tool for stronger pokemon's megas to not be iverwhelming

Not something to make bad pokemon even more irrelevant

[jade ocean]

2 stats over 100 and it's 102 and 120

As a Mega

[robust wren]

Malamar is always the opposite of what we expect of it. We expected a special attacker at first, it became physical. We expected it's Mega to make it better, but it stayed ass

[dusty forum]

At least mega froslass is good that's cool

[mild imp]

Feel so bad (visually), compared to some others mega.
Like, 80% of mega than i have seen, seems correct/good/funky

[jade ocean]

I'd be shocked if Malamar isn't the weakest ZA Mega competitively

[dusty forum]

Oh yeah does za have abilities

[jade ocean]

No

[dusty forum]

OK yeah

Dogshit

Lmfao

[robust wren]

Victreebel gives it a good run for its money with its Hoenn ass distribution, but yeah I would give it to Malamar

[mild imp]

Mega malamar will probably have a very strong ability, on pokemon champions

[jade ocean]

Starmie is implied to lose 40 Attack and gain Huge Power

[dusty forum]

I mean it'll probably still have contrary

[mild imp]

This is rare than Mega kept their ability, no ?

[dusty forum]

But the problem is malamar's main goal is to sit on the field and press superpower

[dusty forum]

Megas whose base form had a busted ability almost always keep it

[robust wren]

I so badly want Mega Froslass to be so good that it gets Freeze changed to Frostbite forever

[dusty forum]

Huge power for example

[jade ocean]

It isn't common but for Pokemon with defining Abilities it isn't unprecedented

Pure Power on Medicham and Technician on Scizor

[mild imp]

Yeah, but Mega malamar do not feel having the contrary ability

But something different

[dusty forum]

What could save it is prankster tbh
Priority topsy turvy on a decently bulky mon could be mean

[charred sage]

given how both current "attack x2" abilities are pun-based (rabbits for huge power, yoga for pure power) I wouldn't doubt them making a third one if they go that route

[spare roost]

keep this in mind. Mega Eelektross is getting hit by ground moves

[mild imp]

Based of his "weak stats", maybe something like stealing stats of his enemi. Or having a contrary which is also applied to the enemi.

[jade ocean]

Levitate doesn't exist so ofc it is

I struggle seeing Eelektross not get Levitate as Mega

[mild imp]

This is so weird than pokemon with their only ability being levitate, do not "kept it" on ZA, ah ah

Or i am wrong ? Do not have the game

[jade ocean]

I haven't actually tested it tbf

I just Mega Emboar CCd the Mega Eelektross

[mild imp]

Well, this is not a strategy game, so will not be much of a problem.

[jade ocean]

And it imploded

[spare roost]

defense still paper lmao

[mild imp]

Mega-Emboar is probably one of the worse design of all mega i have seen. With skarmory. Sad for Emboar 🙁

[jade ocean]

That, and a 20 level lead

[robust wren]

Can I just gush about Mega Froslass's design for a bit? It did everything right with the design. Just the right amount of complexity added to the design without being overwhelming, while furthering the beauty+evil theme it had

[mild imp]

Mega froslass feel weird, something weird on it. But i do not dislike it
Probably too tall to me, so probably that

[jade ocean]

Overleveled doesn't begin to describe my Emboar

But it can describe my other mons

[robust wren]

Have there been any more absurd Pokedex entries discovered besides Mega Dragalge BTW?

[jade ocean]

This is what trying to thoroughly explore a rather open map does to a mf I suppose

[jade ocean]

I haven't looked at dex entries yet

[charred sage]

when "explore map" becomes "explode map"

[sweet crag]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-explode-clouds-of-smoke-gif-17216934

[robust wren]

Mega Dragalge's Dex entry is going to be pretty hard to top on the absurdity factor

[sweet crag]

Why

[robust wren]

It gives people the Big C. It's Dex entry literally says it makes the regenerative power of cells go wild.

[sweet crag]

Ok

[dusty forum]

Poison dragon is a really stellar type combo

Im debating on making a team of 6 that are all mega eligible because there doesn't seem to be much reason not to

[spare roost]

I know for a fact im keeping Watchog on my team, the other six are niches/vibes when i get to them

so far my two permanent members are Watchog and Emboar

[dusty forum]

I wish there was a way to de-level pokemon
I have a lot of shiny alpha mons from arceus id like to bring over but they're mostly level 70ish

[spare roost]

keep in mind that currently ZA is a home deadlocke

anything transfered in cannot be taken out

[dusty forum]

Yeah, that's a point too
I wonder why that is honestly

Don't make much sense

[spare roost]

probably wont be able to transfer mons out until the next gen comes out

[dusty forum]

||Wind/Wave are supposed to be pretty soon, right?||

Err

Before I speak further is there some care I have to take when discussing leaks

[spare roost]

yes, especially since what you're going ot leak isn't even related to ZA

[dusty forum]

Lemme just

Leaks say ||scheduled for mid 2026, not far off||

[spare roost]

like release or teasers/first looks?

also we should take this to #other-pokemon-games

[robust wren]

If the Gen 10 games are getting close, I really hope the fire starter is also something that can't be attached to the old Zodiac theory just to deal the death knell to that theory

[spare roost]

what even is left on that theory

[robust wren]

People were talking about male crocodiles being called bulls, but that's true for a bunch of other animals so it was really just a cope

A bunch of animals that were fire starters at that

[spare roost]

care less about that, i meant the remaining zodiac animals

[robust wren]

Sheep, snake, bull, and tiger (if we count Litten as the cat and not the tiger)

But again, the theory was mostly coincidental from the looks of it

[jade ocean]

People are gonna stretch it anyways through some miracle

They're gonna find a way to connect a Tardigrade to a Horse somehow

[quiet frost]

i mean i still think basing fire starter concepts off the zodiac theory is cool

[jade ocean]

Actually Tardigrade starter would be cool but it'd probably be a Water type I'd imagine

[quiet frost]

but ive had much better ideas since i stopped abiding to the dead theory

[robust wren]

It's a neat idea in concept, but why does Fire specifically get a theme and not the other 2? That's the big thing that made me no like it

[quiet frost]

i mean the other 2 had their own theme theories

it was believed that grass starters were based off of extinct species

and that water starters were all weaponry

[robust wren]

Actually how

[jade ocean]

My favourite types of weapons, fangs and kicks

[robust wren]

I get Blastoise and Greninja, but basically nothing else works

Extinct animals is also kind of a stretch, considering literally every animal on this planet descended from a species that went extinct

It worked up to Sceptile I guess with all the dino Grass starters, but still

[quiet frost]

i think it was like.

blastoise = cannons (duh)
feraligatr = brass knuckles i think?
swampert = i dont know
empoleon = swords because the flippers kinda look like that
samurott = katana
greninja = shuriken (duh)
primarina = i dont know
inteleon = sniper rifle
quaquaval = idk

or empoleon might have been a trident in the theory bc of the crest on his head

[jade ocean]

The ultimate weapon, terrible singing

I mean it has to be bad if it's dealing damage

[quiet frost]

all i can think of for primarina is like.. a bard or something?

but she doesnt really fit the bard vibe

i think it was really her that killed off that theory

[robust wren]

It was a stretch at Feraligatr honestly

[jade ocean]

Feraligatr as brass knuckles is nonsensical though

And as you stated there's nothing for Swampert as well

The theory should never have lived

[quiet frost]

yeah but people really clinged onto it until primarina

[jade ocean]

Swampert's weaponry are these fucking hands I guess

And Quaquaval's are

Uhh

These fucking legs?

[quiet frost]

i think its time people just accept that the starters' "themes" are the ones that each generation has between their trios

[dusty forum]

God I hope chesnaught gets cotton guard

It would be so good

[charred sage]

yea people wanna look vertically when they were intended to look horizontally (starting in gen 5 at least)

[jade ocean]

I mean with that frankly stupid Defence and Iron Defence I don't think physical attackers are breaking past anyways

[robust wren]

Except the flying types

[dusty forum]

You misunderstand
This is so i can unleash a body press that will level mountains

[jade ocean]

Fair enough

[dusty forum]

That and

He's both a grass type and fluffy

He deserves it

[robust wren]

I would love to see more moves like Body Press in the future

[dusty forum]

Fucking maractus got it

[robust wren]

It's a fun gimmick

[dusty forum]

Special body press finally makes ledian usable

(They would never do that because blissey would end the universe)

That said

God j hope it gets filtwr

Grass fighting is a hard sell defensively otherwise

[edgy palm]

I mean... it's just acknowledging how popular Totodile is.

If it gets Moxie that would be solid as long as it gets an ATK power boost

[dusty forum]

Honestly it needs a power booster ability pretty bad

Base feraligator abuses SF/LO interaction for relevance

Holding a mega stone stops you from doing that

Strong jaw is the obvious choice but then it won't boost water stab unless

They crazy af if they do that

[autumn torrent]

Man I killed my save going over 999 items. Crashed on load. Let's go again.

[dim plover]

Ironically ZA will be my first time in the kalos region

i never played X or Y

[robust wren]

Mega Feraligatr wouldn't even be the best at using Fishious Rend if it got it. It's speed is a not that good 78 and it can't hold a Choice Scarf.
Base Feraligatr with a Choice Scarf though... It would be really OP with it. Not Dracovish broken, but still nuts

[radiant otter]

you should if you get a chance, they are great games

[dusty forum]

That's true

[radiant otter]

theyre easy but fun

[dusty forum]

I forgot feraligatr didn't get a speed boost

[robust wren]

Yeah the ZA Starter Megas are apparently on the Aslowla grindset

[charred sage]

dragon dance?

also slow = "under 100 (101?) base speed"

the sourspot of 61-99 base speed

[dusty forum]

I mean it's a decent place to be in doubles because you can flex tailwind/trick room

But bleh

[dim plover]

aint no way i got my ass pickpocketed within 10 minutes of being in france

[charred sage]

welcome to rogueport i mean kalos

[dim plover]

im gonna throw hands with this pancham

[sweet crag]

This is not paper mario the thousand year door

[dim plover]

these battle mechanics arent bad

im really hoping faster pokemon have shorter recharge times

[sweet crag]

Maybe

[dusty forum]

If they dont it's kinda nuts tbh

[dim plover]

fr whats the point of a speed stat in this battle style

[dusty forum]

Honestly

Given you can kite

Setup feels stupid broken

[dim plover]

pokemon really needs to get voice acting

silent mouth movements and shuffling clothes is just kinda goofy

who was gonna tell me that AZ is a fucking giant

and hes hunched over

this mans like 10 feet tall wtf

[radiant otter]

yeah he's a big dude

[errant solar]

https://tenor.com/view/mega-starmie-mega-starmie-running-mega-starmie-fast-starmie-pokemon-gif-1903217345154588046

[dim plover]

I like AZ

hes very cool and tall

WHERE DO I FIND MY BOY

what the citizens of lumiose city see after i discover rolling

https://tenor.com/view/young-link-roll-gif-25839741

[autumn torrent]

Every hero needs a theme song.

[lament surge]

Im asking this to everyone who bought legends Z-A. Is it worth it?

[radiant otter]

as much as i like having $70 in my bank account, I am having a great time playing through this game

[lament surge]

Is it as bad as they say?

[radiant otter]

theres a lot of new mechanics but it's very fun

i haven't seen people calling it bad yet

[lament surge]

Alright

Is there gyms and league?

[radiant otter]

i don't believe there is gyms

i have like 7 hours but idk if theyre just further ahead

[lament surge]

What is the objective

[radiant otter]

climbing ranks starting from Z going up to A and protecting lumiose is what i'm grasping

[lament surge]

Thats sounds fun

[dim plover]

its like legends arceus but instead of filling out the pokedex you're trying to become the best trainer through ranking up in the "Z-A Royale"

[radiant otter]

yeah that's accurate

i am enjoying this new combat system

[dim plover]

my la instincts kicked in and i started catching multiple of each pokemon until i realized what game i was playing

[daring finch]

Damn they really just remade ||Iono|| in this game

[dim plover]

||taunie||?

[radiant otter]

i thought the same thing they are very similar

[radiant otter]

character you'll meet later

[jade ocean]

||And this time we get to see more Simps, too||

[deft crest]

im so mad about the pyroar mega evolution

they could've made it a manticore or something but they just gave him more hair

i get the whole kanji thing but still

AND they kept his normal typing

his stats are buns too they just added 20 to everything

[jade ocean]

Look on the bright side! It isn't Malamar

This stat spread so ass 💔

[deft crest]

pyroar was my favourite since i was 10 so i was looking forward to it 😞

nowadays its litleo and koffing

[deft crest]

what are his stats like \

[jade ocean]

It has 2 stats above 100

Being 102 Attack and 120 SpD

Mega Evolution btw

[dim plover]

where do i find the stone emporium

[jade ocean]

Should be on your map

[deft crest]

malamar is missed potential as a whole

contrary is the only thing saving it, does it keep that ability when it mega evolves?

also psychic and dark is a sick typing but it's just ass

[daring finch]

Just use mega starters

[jade ocean]

It is unknown, as Abilities aren't in ZA and the Megas have the base form Abilities in the code

[deft crest]

ohhh right

mega scolipede and dragalge are genuinely awesome though

and froslass too she's one of my favs

[jade ocean]

However considering how they let Scizor, Medicham etc keep their iconic abilities

I think Malamar will keep Contrary

[sturdy flower]

i am so glad froslass finally got a mega

it was so unfair to give glalie one but not her

[deft crest]

oh weird

in arceus doesnt regigigas keep slow start too

[sturdy flower]

and I'm so happy froslass' looks better than glalie's

[jade ocean]

No, as in

They let them keep their Abilities upon Mega evolving

But they did buff the Attack of Medicham, Mawile and Starmie to make up for no abilities

[deft crest]

yeah i was saying that's weird that they let some keep abilities but some dont

ohhhh

like statwise you mean

[jade ocean]

But there seems to be absolutely 0 Abilities in ZA proper

[deft crest]

they made up for it

i get it

[jade ocean]

I meant that they keep their Abilities when Mega Evolving

Scizor already had Technician, Medicham already had Pure Power

[deft crest]

according to the teraleak ||golisopod|| is supposed to get a mega in the dlc that's gonna be sick

and ||chimecho|| too that's gonna be cool

[jade ocean]

You can't imagine these Pokemon without those Abilities, so Gamefreak opted to let them keep those abilities

[deft crest]

ohhh i see

[sturdy flower]

datamined DLC megas

[deft crest]

i was confused bc here you said they buffed medichams attack but earlier you said medicham kept his ability

or do you mean base form medicham

[sturdy flower]

datamined returning mons

[jade ocean]

Here I was explaining that Mega Medicham, Mawile and Starmie have 40, 42 and 40 more Attack, respectively

This is because they lack their abilities that make up a majority of their threat

[dim plover]

will we get actual mega groudon and kyogre or will it be the primal forms?

[jade ocean]

And yes, Mega Starmie seems to be implied to lose 40 Attack and gain Huge Power in games with abilities

[deft crest]

yeah i was confused bc of this statement

i get it now

[sturdy flower]

why would we get mega groudon and kyogre

[dim plover]

idk man

[sturdy flower]

primals are already pretty much just megas

[deft crest]

i mean apparently we're getting another mega ||absol garchomp and lucario || so who knows

[dim plover]

yeah then why doesnt rayquaza have a primal form

[jade ocean]

Because they had to make it broken

[sturdy flower]

yes i know, they're in the list i sent, but groudon and kyogre aren't there

and it's a different thing

[deft crest]

with the way pokemon works i wouldnt be surprised if they released another dlc for za the next year

in addition to mega dimensions

[sturdy flower]

there's probably a second dlc coming

according to some datamines

[deft crest]

greedy ass company

dlc announcement before the game even comes out is crazy

then another dlc on top of that is crazier

[sturdy flower]

i honestly don't know what's the problem with that

it's not coming out until February 28th

[deft crest]

they better at least open up the map

[charred sage]

some people don't like being told they can't just have something for free

[deft crest]

i feel like if anything it just affects hype, normally companies release a game then after the initial release hype dies down they announce a dlc to bring the hype train back

it kinda feels like in your face "you have to pay extra to get these new mons"

especially with the way they're handling the kalos mega starters

[sturdy flower]

that's how DLCs work

you pay for extra content on top of the main story

from datamines, the dlc seems to be pretty damn big

[spare roost]

Usually after months or years, not before the game comes out

[deft crest]

if they're not announcing it to continue the hype train for the game why not just include it in the base game

[deft crest]

^^

[sturdy flower]

well i don't know, it's a weird decision maybe but that's what they went with

i can't tell you why

[deft crest]

like the way smash handled dlc is perfect imo

[spare roost]

I would have no problem with Mega Dimensions if they announced it today or tomorrow

[deft crest]

they waited like 6 months to a year no?

[deft crest]

exactly

even yesterday

i get thats how dlc works but it just seems like in our face

"oh heres 2 megas of raichu you'll have to pay extra for down the road"

[sturdy flower]

they simply wanted to release on or close to pokemon day

February 28th

[spare roost]

Because if you announce dlc before the game comes out then the feeling of “Okay so why wasn’t this in the base game then”

[deft crest]

then announce it at a different point

[sturdy flower]

and there's always a bunch of time between announcement and release

[deft crest]

never before the game even comes out though, which is why it wouldve been fine if they announced it within the last day or 2 or something

[sturdy flower]

plus, there are the three ranked seasons to keep us busy for some time

[deft crest]

im more mad ab the kalos starters than anything else

[spare roost]

They could have chosen literally any date between now and Feb 28th then there is 3-4 months for them to do just that

[deft crest]

i dont use my switch enough to warrant getting switch online

but mega chesnaught is sick

[sturdy flower]

it's honestly not that expensive

[deft crest]

and now i just cant get it

[sturdy flower]

it's what, 20 bucks for a whole year

not the best but not the worst

also the stones are really easy to get

[deft crest]

im a broke undergrad student every 20 dollars helps, im not gonna spend it on something im not gonna make the most out of

[sturdy flower]

which was obvious, it would have made no sense to make them incredibly hard to obtain

there's people that got the greninja stone in an hour

[deft crest]

mega chesnaught is cool but not 20 dollars cool, im not spending that money to play online a handful of times then never

[sturdy flower]

well that changed from person to person, I don't know your financial situation

also there are cheaper options

[deft crest]

if you're going to announce a dlc with exclusive megas at least make the kalos starter megas part of the dlc, bc someone who bought the dlc would likely make the most of it

[deft crest]

the point is a lot of people arent gonna want to spend money on something they dont use

[sturdy flower]

3 months, enough to cover all three seasons is 8 bucks

[sturdy flower]

oh yeah that's fair

I'm not saying it was a good thing to do

[deft crest]

regardless im not getting the game im not supporting these business practices

it just sucks seeing my favourite franchise become so corporate

[sturdy flower]

if you're not getting it at all then what was the point

[deft crest]

all of that was the point of why im not buying the game

[sturdy flower]

pokemon has definitely been corporate for a long time

[deft crest]

they've got some nerve asking for all that with the way the last few games ran, legends arceus being the exception

[deft crest]

not to this extent until recently

[robust wren]

Pokemon inadvertently proving why we need Palworld and other games to compete with it

[daring finch]

gays

[hazy knot]

Hello citizens of spriter general

[daring finch]

Rate the fit

[hazy knot]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-no-way-shocked-surprised-omg-gif-16935646637611070933

[daring finch]

looking for a better hat as we speak

you should still spoiler

[devout dirge]

maybe mega ||froslass|| CAN be more obnoxious

wait

hold up

unburden power herb geomancy mega ||zygarde|| could go sicko mode

[deft crest]

exactly bruh

highest grossest media franchise of all time btw

[devout dirge]

forgot fairy tera

[daring finch]

OMG I LOVE THIS FIT

[jade ocean]

Tbh I don't get why people including Nintendo get so worked up about Palworld and Pokemon competing

The games are completely different

[charred sage]

yea reminds me of when people thought yokai watch was gonna go in that direction but it went in its own direction as well

[deft crest]

Pokémon releasing a patent for summoning a creature to help you battle is actually crazy work

[daring finch]

Bro this game

Thats a shiny btw

[robust wren]

Nintendo wants to have the monster catching genre all to themselves, that's why

Monopolies suck for everyone. Except the monopoly holder.

[daring finch]

holy ass

this evo is bad

[jade ocean]

Isn't it just getting a Leaf Stone, if you're referring to Pansage

Am I misremembering

You can buy those directly from the Stone Emporium

[daring finch]

doesnt make it a good one

[sturdy flower]

i think i have a team finally
Gardevoir (shiny)
Scolipede (alpha, maybe shiny)
Froslass
Absol
Mawile
Eelektross

[jade ocean]

Oh you mean the Pokemon itself

[daring finch]

yeah

Mine is shiny and its colors look like vomit

[jade ocean]

You're planning on shiny hunting for your team members?

That's crazy dedication

[sturdy flower]

ain't no way I'm going through the game without a shiny gardevoir

[jade ocean]

That said, Froslass is very late game, I've gotten all of those other Megas unlocked already but still no Froslass

[sturdy flower]

it is? well that's just a potential team

[jade ocean]

And Scolipede, Gardevoir and Mawile are already decently late

[sturdy flower]

i guess I'll replace what I can't get with something else

[jade ocean]

Absol is quite literally the first Mega you get though

[daring finch]

I want mega drampa

[sturdy flower]

i saw people getting venipede pretty early

[jade ocean]

Pretty early Mega as well

[daring finch]

Idk where tf I can find drampa

[jade ocean]

Well, the Mega Stone is early

Drampa itself?

Very late

[daring finch]

Gotta love game freak

[jade ocean]

Most of the time, it's the Mega Stones that dictate when you get the Pokemon

But for Drampa, it is the inverse

[devout dirge]

mega zygardes signature move is insane

[sturdy flower]

nihil light

[jade ocean]

Especially on a Pokemon with 216 fucking SpA

[devout dirge]

and fuck fairy immunities

its japanese name is literally light that returns to nothing

and it has a nuke

pray to arceus

at that point

[daring finch]

tbh I have spent 30 minutes shopping rather than playing the game

[jade ocean]

Is the only relevant switch-in to Nihil Light in Ubers Blissey

[devout dirge]

fuck restoring the ecosystem its hitting the reset button

gave it a moveset btw

and gave it tera fairy

[sturdy flower]

well nihil means nothing in latin

[jade ocean]

Also that's basically what Nihil Light already means tbf

[sturdy flower]

also not fhe first thing in pokemon to be named after nihil

guess what the other one is

[jade ocean]

Bro is playing Balanced Hackmons

[jade ocean]

Nihilego

[devout dirge]

nah thats pure hackmons worthy

[sturdy flower]

yeah

[devout dirge]

i usually do custom game tho

power herb geomancy unburden mega zygarde goes sicko mode

especially with nihil light

and tera fairy with ground coverage

which it still gets stab from iirc

[jade ocean]

So what you're saying is that Hackmons just got a lot more scary

[devout dirge]

if people become more like me

or make builds more like mine

just min max

or

if this set catches on

[charred sage]

hackmons and pokerogue gonna go nuts once everything's fully sorted out

ignoring that pure hackmons already got obliterated by eternamax and revival blessing anyway

[devout dirge]

ooh pokeathlon

i can fuse mega zygarde with eternamax eternatus

best of both worlds!

[sturdy flower]

but anyways, that team i sent is my final goal, i wanna have that within the end of the game if possible

it's like the ideal team

[daring finch]

I just wanna have a gengar

[devout dirge]

mega skarmory loses physical bulk?!

damn

[daring finch]

so if anyone could evolve my haunter for me it would be dope

[jade ocean]

Hmm... some places list Nihil Light as 100 BP while others list it as 200 BP

[devout dirge]

no assault vest skarm

[sturdy flower]

oh an afk shiny hunt just came out

[jade ocean]

Maybe it's because Nihil Light can only be used by Mega Zygarde

Which means it is always under a Plus Move boost

But is the boost really that big?

Hmm...

[devout dirge]

that would be 1.5x tho

wait if its 200 bp with stab

oh

oh.

[jade ocean]

If it actually is 200 BP Nihil Light is NOT making it out of ZA

[devout dirge]

not without a nerf

[jade ocean]

I'm close to the endgame, so I'll see soon

[devout dirge]

thats 300 bp with stab

ignoring immunity

starmie is just patrick from the spongebob movie

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-dance-patrick-star-spongebob-split-gif-5297632

[charred sage]

reminds me of Lets GO where they buffed solarbeam to something like 180-200 base power to make up for sunlight not being a thing so no skipping the charge turn

then reverted it back for gen 8 where it was

[robust wren]

Mega Skarmory is just this

[devout dirge]

a mod with the boots on mega starmie would be legendary

and making it do that pose as its idle animation

[robust wren]

Even better- a mod that removes Mega Starmie

[drowsy veldt]

out of everything they could do with a starfish, they do patrick

[devout dirge]

yknow if i ever play it with a mod embracing the meme id love it

i dont know who drew this

but its hilarious

[daring finch]

this dont feel like a pokemon game

I fucking love it

[edgy palm]

I'm SUPER curious about the DLC Megas

[glacial nymph]

10 Minutes in and I shit you not
The game crashed 😭

[edgy palm]

Are you playing on SW or SW2?

[glacial nymph]

SW2

[gray canopy]

😬

[edgy palm]

Oof

[glacial nymph]

Is this SW2 version very buggy?

[gray canopy]

I would be shocked if any version wasnt buggy

[slate loom]

I havent run into any bugs that I can think of