pokemon-winds-waves

[drowsy veldt]

||if you read this, we have good news and bad news. the bad news is we are cancelling our scyther dna infusion test. good news is we have a much better test! fighting an army of mantis men. pick up a rifle and follow the yellow line. you will know when the test starts.||

[sturdy flower]

what

[tawdry flame]

???

[forest egret]

Cave johnson jumpscare

[tawdry flame]

I'm probably going to add ||mega malamar|| or ||victrebell|| in my team

|| definitely not going to get the mega stones for the kalos starters because you know||

[sturdy flower]

I'm thinking of making my team
Gardevoir
Mawile
Froslass
Absol
Skarmory
Scolipede, maybe Delphox

depends on how ||the rest of the megas look||

I'll just make my team all megas

those first four are guaranteed tho

i just hope you can get gardevoirite normally without needing the preorder bonus

i really want to shiny hunt it too

[tawdry flame]

I think it's just going to be a mystery gift thing

[warm knot]

Wow, buy 2 versions of the same game to get an old pokemon for free? What a deal

[drowsy veldt]

considering i lack funds and the whole "you only explore 1 city" thing, i'm probably not buying pokemon za when it comes out.
if i however do, everyone shall be squished by a giant pitcher plant!
(jk. i'm not sure what mega i'd use)

[sturdy flower]

is reading comprehension not a thing anymore

[warm knot]

My bad yeah I can't read

[sturdy flower]

alright lmao

[sturdy flower]

oh wait is it not a preorder thing?

oh it is.

[flat imp]

preorder rewards
shit locked behind online

c'mon man!!

[indigo mango]

i still think the ralts and mega stone are just for the early start, im sure ralts and the mega stone are in the game anyway

just probably late game

the pre order reward just makes it so you can use it right after the intro

[indigo mango]

thats wild tho, making a pre order award a internet mystery gift with a limited time

[tawdry flame]

Judging by a gift reward in PLA and how it went there, this ralts won't likely have your OT, so it'll disobey you sooner than later

[sturdy flower]

that's probably the case yeah

i really hope it is

doesn't matter when, but i want a shiny mega gardevoir

i wanted to get in UltraSun but it's genuinely hellish

[amber monolith]

Is that what the ralts is that people are talking about?

I myself haven’t heard that, but I think it’s mostly because I don’t know these things

[glacial nymph]

People complaining about DLC being announced before the game even released but didn't BOTW announce DLC before the game released?

[sinful dagger]

I didn't buy that game either

[sturdy flower]

your loss

[sinful dagger]

to be fair I haven't played any zelda games

[indigo mango]

does a pre order cost more? or you just dont want to get it to wait out some gameplay

[indigo mango]

i mean you get told about it in every trailer for ZA so far (and i do mean everything even the mega trailers). so unless you havent seen any ZA news then i guess yeah you wouldnt know

[amber monolith]

then what does a Ralts have to do with it? you can probably catch a ralts in game and the mega stones probably wouldn’t be locked behind the dlc

[indigo mango]

you get a ralts with the mega stone

[warm knot]

To incentivize you to buy the game instead of waiting for reviews to come out and tell you it's bad

[sturdy flower]

the latter

I'd rather wait it out, you never know with GF

[lime void]

Considering that they just made the mega Kalos starters locked behind ranked matches, I wouldn’t be too sure of that if I were you…

[indigo mango]

i dont play games much. at most maybe i play a game every month or so for like an hour..so i dont mind buying games when im slightly interested sicne i have the money to spare

[storm tinsel]

Wait did it??? I don't even recall Breath of the Wild having DLC at all but I might've just not been paying attention.

[indigo mango]

i dont think that was released before the game was out

i dont play them but im pretty sure i remmeber those dlcs being its own thing in a different direct

[storm tinsel]

Looking it up there was a couple months between the game coming out and dlc but I don't know when that dlc was announced

[storm tinsel]

Regardless I still stand by DLC should never be released day one, and it is dubious for something to announce DLC before there's at least been some time for the game to stand on its own

[sturdy flower]

The DLC isn't out day one

it comes out later

[tawdry flame]

The only "day 1" thing you'll get for purchasing the dlc is just clothing

[warm knot]

If the dlc was revealed before the game came out, it could've been base game

[shrewd hearth]

They're only selling us a piece of pie when they promised a full pie

It's bullshit

[sturdy flower]

do you think they usually start working on the DLC only after the game releases?

that makes no sense

[warm knot]

I think the dlc should be part of the base game

[sturdy flower]

well alright, but the reason can't be because they showed it before the release of the game

it's unorthodox but they already start working on the DLC from the very start

they don't wait until after release

or they'd have absolutely no time to make it

[warm knot]

Them showing this DLC before the game is out us like saying "if you want to play the full game you need to pay an extra $30

Obviously this wouldn't have to come out on release

Stuff takes time

[acoustic jungle]

I hate Mega Victreebel

[warm knot]

But it should not cost extra

[robust wren]

Surely the fact that it's coming out a few months later and also costs money means it will be full of engaging, well polished gameplay, right?

[sturdy flower]

dude I'm ngl i wanna get ZA just for the megas

[warm knot]

Congratulations, people like you are what keep Nintendo selling games for ridiculous prices

[storm tinsel]

DLC for indie games at least seems to genuinely be developed after the main game is complete and that is how I think it should be

If you're already making extra downloadable content from the start along with the main game, how are you going to know if the main game can stand on its own and has enough substance

The modern pokemon games have a bad habbit of being buggy, underbaked, and just not having as much in it as they should for base game with the price they have and now they put DLCs ontop of it that cost more money

[void brook]

Sword and Shield though at least had less bugs than Scarlet and Violet.

[storm tinsel]

Sword and Shield did seem to play alright, where Scarlet and Violet from what I've seen and heard has horrible bugs and performance issues

I personally have Shield, I have never touched Scarlet or Violet though

[void brook]

Playing Sword and Shield casually, I didn't encounter any bugs, while when I played Scarlet and Violet casually I fell through the map while it lagged in various areas.

[storm tinsel]

Yeah that sounds like what I've heard nshdhsnsjajia

I don't think I encountered any harmful bug in Shield

[void brook]

Sword and Shield in my opinion were better than Scarlet and Violet because they had pretty much no bugs and performance issues while I played them.

[storm tinsel]

Yeah I don't know what happened between those two games but they definitely needed more time to make it or more bug testers

[void brook]

The only thing I liked about Scarlet and Violet was the second half of the DLC being double battles.

[storm tinsel]

I had a fun time with Shield, but I knew going into it that it was going to be the last pokemon game I bought

[shrewd hearth]

Don't bother it sucks
They promised you can challenge gyms and stuff in any order but didn't scale anything so the ice gym is in the 50s but TECHNICALLY you can fight them first
The stories suck except the one with the dog
Ending feels lazy
And ofc everyone knows the bugs that games has even still now

[storm tinsel]

Oh don't worry I'm committed to never buying another pokemon game

[shrewd hearth]

Same it just took me to be a sucker into sv

[void brook]

Pretty much what I would say.

[storm tinsel]

Oh yeah I forgot how weirdly implemented the gyms in "any" order was

[shrewd hearth]

The ending with the robot makes fuck all sense like they just conveniently made a exact robot clone of them for no reason just before they get sucked into a time portal and the robot replaces them but still neglects the kid?

[storm tinsel]

It inherited the bad parenting snzhnssjsk

[void brook]

I also say for fun that they spent most of their time on the final boss battle arena.

Forget everything else, just make the final boss battle arena look as cool as possible.

[shrewd hearth]

Oh don't get me started on that fight with the two box arts that battle basically automatically happens even if U don't deal any damage to the other one the final move ohkos it it's a Cutscene with extra steps

[void brook]

(In my opinion that is the coolest battle arena)

[void brook]

I wasn't talking about the fight itself, I'm talking about the place you fight the final boss in.

[shrewd hearth]

Yeah ik but U reminded me of that crap

[void brook]

I absolutely hate the final boss other than the arena.

[shrewd hearth]

I've only played that once and I'm only gonna play it once

[void brook]

I've played the game 2 times through the entirety of the base game and the DLC, and the part I dislike the most is the Psychic gym "test."

[shrewd hearth]

Someone needs to take over whatever dumbasses are in charge cause they're gonna burn that franchise into the ground and take everything down with it

[storm tinsel]

Lol what's the psychic gym "test"?

[void brook]

The people who decided to make the team that are not good at making 3D games make 3D games did not make a good decision.(Higher ups in Game Freak made the decision)

[void brook]

First time around, just press the buttons they tell you to press until you do a battle(about 20-30 seconds) and repeat that a couple more times.

[storm tinsel]

I wonder what pokemon would've been like if it stayed the animated pixel art in black and white

I hope we'd still get the pokemon amie or camp like feature just with pixel art because I love bonding with my pokemon

[storm tinsel]

Lol what

[void brook]

Might be less time, but it is so boring to actually do that it feels like I'm doing it for 10 minutes.

[storm tinsel]

Yeah that does not sound engaging at all

[void brook]

I hate it, I would rather it be the trash puzzle in Lt. Surge's gym because you actually have to do something other than press one button repeatedly in that.

[wise basin]

I hope you guys know of this, but there's something cool coming out for Legends: Z-A, though there will be some bullcrap in getting it.

[storm tinsel]

Yeah that second part sounds like par for the course

What's the cool thing though?

[wise basin]

I don't wanna spoil it for people that having seen the recent news about Pokemon Legends: Z-A.

[storm tinsel]

You can spoiler your message

[wise basin]

Unless no one really cares here.

How do I do that?

[storm tinsel]

||enclose message here||

You can also use /spoiler at the beginning I think

[wise basin]

||There will be Mega Evolutions for the Kalos Starters.||

[storm tinsel]

Oh yeah we discussed that earlier

[wise basin]

Oh.

[jade ocean]

You weren't kidding about cool with bullshit attached

And also about us already knowing

Yeah we talked about that a while back

[wise basin]

Alright then.

[storm tinsel]

||The obtainment method is really bad, especially with doing it for the Kalos starters that really should just be something you can get in base game progression||

[jade ocean]

And tbh most of what was being said was more so complaining about online and/or PVP being needed

As in, complaining about one or the other

Not as in only one of those will be needed

I personally don't mind PVP being needed but I do mind the fact that Online is needed because that's fucking bullshit

I can't even buy Online in my country without breaking the law

This is ridiculous

[storm tinsel]

Oh really?

[wise basin]

I hope the DLC fixes that bullcrap method of only getting the mega stones through those means.

It'll make fans of Pokemon so much happier that way.

[storm tinsel]

If it's behind the dlc it's just a different pay wall, which is still scummy

[jade ocean]

I got a bit mad at Nintendo Eshop stupid availability

And may have gotten timed out for telling Nintendo to uhh

Self expire

[wise basin]

I mean, the DLC will probably have an easier way of getting the Mega stones to be fair.

[jade ocean]

But yeah no why tf is Nintendo Eshop only available in like

America, some parts of Europe and Japan

The fuck is this bullshit

[storm tinsel]

Ah, yeah that sucks

Confusing that you can buy the games but not get them online in the same place

[jade ocean]

Like that shit pisses me off so much

[storm tinsel]

I'd be mad too

[jade ocean]

Guess I'm only gonna be able to use them in fangames and Showdown

When nobody got me I know Pokemon Showdon got me can I get an amen

[wise basin]

I'm guessing by listing those, you're not in any of those and are somewhere else like Brazil as an example. I'm not saying you're from Brazil, exactly, I'm just giving off an example of a place Nintendo EShop wouldn't be accessible in.

[storm tinsel]

So I'm guessing you wouldn't even be able to get the dlc either even if you wanted to

So the ||Kalos megas|| are just not an option for you at all

[jade ocean]

Yeah the only way I can get DLC is by buying copies of games that already have the DLC with them

Which is dumb

[storm tinsel]

Yeah that's ridiculous

[jade ocean]

But technically if I wait until the DLC releases

And a bit after that

Then there will probably be a few copies being sold that comes with the DLC

So I'm not locked out of the DLC at least!

[wise basin]

Well, to hopefully lighten your mood, the DLC does come out around the same date that the actual game comes out.

[jade ocean]

(Or I can just break the law)

(But like)

(Wait actually why am I gonna try to say I don't feel like breaking the law fuck Nintendo I'm breaking all their terms and services)

(Fuck you Nintendo)

[wise basin]

I think it's best for the game to release so that you'll be able to get the DLC in the game.

[jade ocean]

I mean the existence of all these fangames I'd already imagine is technically illegal

But nobody gives a shit

[storm tinsel]

I'm a little surprised we're still standing

[jade ocean]

And nobody gives a shit either if I lie to Nintendo about where I live to access Eshop

[storm tinsel]

Nintendo has taken down lots of fangames before

[jade ocean]

Usually they only take them down if the fangames have a way to monetise themselves

Which Infinite Fusion doesn't

[storm tinsel]

I see

Although I think they took down a pokemon minecraft mod just because they were making pokemon quest

[jade ocean]

I have 0 clue why exactly the Pokemon mod got taken down

So I can't speak on that

[wise basin]

Yeah, cause if fangames are able to make money, then game companies would rather not have that, but there are good people that don't care about the money.

[void brook]

Fans do not have the right to sell or monetize Pokemon fan games since they don't have the copyright.

[jade ocean]

Also elaborating on this, the only place I can actually buy Nintendo gift cards from that aren't hilariously overpriced like $30 for a $10 gift card or shit like that are kinda very shifty

So uhh

Either scam yourself or possibly break even more laws than before

Pick your poison

[wise basin]

I'm just gonna wait for the game to release, so I am able to get the game and even try to get the DLC once the game is released.

[jade ocean]

Just saying though spending like 50 billion dollars just so I can get barely enough to buy Nintendo Online for like 1 day does not sound very worth

[void brook]

Unless something I want is in the DLC, I'm not spending money on it.

[wise basin]

So you'd rather just wait for the remake of Gen 6 to happen then?

[storm tinsel]

Okay Pixelmon dying might've genuinely just been, the game was too popular

Oh nevermind hang on

I retract my statement

There might be cryptocurrency involved???????

[jade ocean]

Lmao???

Well in any case there are still multiple very popular Pokemon in Minecraft mods, some being successors to the original Pixelmon

I'd definitely say they're more popular than any actual Pokemon fangame

Like in every Pokemon community I'm in I see Pixelmon Reforged or Cobblemon every so often

But in the multiple Pixelmon and Cobblemon related servers I've been in, not once have I seen a fangame be brought up

And heck, I feel like a lot of these Pixelmon and Cobblemon players don't even know Pokemon very well at all

What's about as ridiculous is the number of Pokerogue fans that feel like they genuinely have never before heard of Pokemon

[storm tinsel]

Uhhhh, yeah I have no idea what happened with Pixelmon, only one website I looked at to find out why it shut down had cryptocurrency randomly mentioned in the middle no other site says this.

[storm tinsel]

It definitely helps that they're a mod for another extremely popular game

[jade ocean]

Yknow, the Kalos starters are a combination of the 2 worst forms of Pokemon Availability

Being paywalled and being region specific

Well, the Mega Kalos Starters

[storm tinsel]

Yeah...

[jade ocean]

People hacking to compete in VGC just got even more justification now

Heck they got their justification when VGC announced a format that allowed mythicals

And yknow what, that justification was always there before the earlier days of SV

(It's actually insanely easy to train up Pokemon in SV lmao)

[shrewd hearth]

It fucking sucks I made a team for against friends and I had to kill farigurafs for like an hr

[jade ocean]

Dude like buy the vitamins

[shrewd hearth]

That shit is way to expensive to do for a full team of 6

[jade ocean]

Idk, I've trained up like

A full box of Pokemon

And still have a ton of money left

Mainly using vitamins

All for nothing

[shrewd hearth]

Maybe in swsh you could because that game gives U hundreds of thousands by gym 5 but sv doesn't

[jade ocean]

Because I can't even play vs other people and don't have online

[shrewd hearth]

How TF U get that much money

[jade ocean]

Idk, I just end up with a truckload of money from doing random shit

And I have 0 clue what exactly I'm doing

I will say, the amount of money I had rose dramatically after I played the DLCs

[shrewd hearth]

Ah so it's probably some shit from there that made U rich

[storm tinsel]

Don't have any experience with Scarlet and Violet but I will say I miss the giant balloon pokemon you could have your pokemon fight in X and Y that made getting a ton of EVs pretty quick and easy, and the minigame was fun enough

[shrewd hearth]

I didn't waste my money getting it

[jade ocean]

I was rich before the DLC too

But I became even more rich afterwards

Like I think I hit the money cap

[shrewd hearth]

Idk what the hell you did it get rich there but I never knew anyone that hit the money cap legit

[jade ocean]

I think a lot of my DLC money is from the item printer tbh

Because I grinded the actual shit out of the blueberry quests because I wanted a Lunala

So I had a lot of leftover BP to spend

Tbh though I don't really train up Pokemon in SV anymore because like

I don't have Online lmao what's the point

It's not like you need any EVs for any Pokemon game ever

[storm tinsel]

Do they have a battle tower esque thing at all?

[jade ocean]

The games are all easy enough to just run in unprepared and play

[jade ocean]

Not really, unfortunately

[storm tinsel]

Dang

[jade ocean]

Even if they did I doubt it'd keep me entertained

Actual players would but like

Nintendo is garbage

So I can't

The only thing I hate more than Nintendo Online's mere existence is Flutter Mane

(Exaggeration)

[noble ice]

With Nintendo showing us some of the new Megas that’s our coming to legends-ZA, what are some that you guys think that you’re gonna have on your team?

[olive panther]

I remember hearing Pixelmon ripped models directly from the games, but I don't have any sources for that information.

[rugged wharf]

I had my MVP Malamar in Sun and Ultra Sun and I will get my MVP Malamar in ZA

[tepid flame]

Don't a lot of fangames rip sprites though when they feature non-fangame exclusive mons

[forest egret]

I guess it's less of a moral issue and more that it just looks awkward seeing smooth pokemon in a block world

[fickle birch]

SV has Max Potions on the floor, just sell them and you're good. 😉

[fickle birch]

Cobblemon looks so good as well, like even if it takes time to get every Pokémon, it's always a treat to see the new models. 🙂

[shrewd hearth]

Yeah I'm following their updates and every time they show a new Pokemon it looks sick and this upcoming update is gonna add like 50 new Pokemon and like 3 mechanics

It's crazy

[storm tinsel]

Heck yeah

[wanton idol]

this katten person seems like really smart

imo

[shrewd hearth]

Yeah your right kattenkg but whoever could xillo be talking about

[wanton idol]

im actually drawing a few of the guys

[void brook]

What I meant was I was not going to buy the DLC unless something I wanted was in it.

[fickle birch]

Love these! ❤️

Victreebel looks so much better and like itself with its mouth open. 🙂

[finite totem]

Out of topic question. Would you want Blueberry in an 3rd Unova game or an Unova Remake?

Since it is also at (or near) unova

[wanton idol]

Itd be cool to be mentioned but idk if we'll acrually get to go there

I just kind of hope we even get unova remakes and that the blueberry academy wasnt considered the unova content by game freak lol

[jade ocean]

Remember when I said something like "Hey the reception of Mega Hawlucha was the best out of the Megas so far"

Yeah uhh

Chesnaught and Delphox have it beat by an inconceivable amount

And it feels like Greninja's being received about equally well despite having less 5 votes due to having less 1s and 2s, but maybe that's just me

I'm not keeping track of the exact numbers lol

[brittle wadi]

i am interested in how a map this small wont get incredibley repetitive for an entire game

unless theres more

[warm knot]

Don't worry, they'll add more in the dlcs

[brittle wadi]

wouldnt be suprised

[sturdy flower]

i don't understand why everyone says it's small

it's a pretty decently sized map honestly

[plucky escarp]

entirely depends on scale

if it takes 5 seconds to run from one end to the other,

[storm tinsel]

The scale is not something I feel we can accurately assess yet

[plucky escarp]

100%

[brittle wadi]

plus its only a map from the demo so maybe its bigger

[sturdy flower]

we do know the scale sorta

they've shown some wild areas, aka the green areas

[acoustic igloo]

TBH, that never bothered me. I was just happy with how feature-rich Pixelmon is.

I can't play it right now, though, because my current computer doesn't have the horsepower for Forge.

[jade ocean]

Ultimately, if I'm picking between better models and more Pokemon, more items, bottle caps, ability pills and patches etc... I'm picking the latter

Pixelmon Reforged is currently for me just too far ahead in terms of how many more features it has

But I'm sure given time Cobblemon will catch up

[sturdy flower]

cobblemon has a bunch of extra add-ons you can find on the discord server

[acoustic igloo]

I installed a bunch of those (and a resource pack that reverts every Pokémon to the Gen 1-5 cries, because I really hate the Gen 6+ revamped cries).

[opal gull]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/1nhi1s3/mega_raichu_x_and_y_color_swap/

[jade ocean]

Yeah but then I have to worry about mod conflict

Or in this case add-on conflict

And I don't feel like doing that

[latent owl]

wip

I'm using multiples for the segments

20 segment form

• the tail one without wing

I fucked up with the shading too

again

[sturdy flower]

fucking awesome

[lime void]

https://tenor.com/view/mc-jugger-nuggets-gif-19032506

[sturdy flower]

an idea to cool for the pokemon company

[latent owl]

the infinite ouroboros

it would be so tall too

dudunsparce is already 4.5 meters in the 3 segment form

19.8 meters calculating the amount of segments I think

and he can also inflate

[wise basin]

Ah.

[storm tinsel]

Pool floatie

[drowsy veldt]

If that is a pool floatie, you're going to need a huge pool.
Otherwise that would cover the pool

[latent owl]

he can inflate even more

[lime void]

Ocean floatie

[cunning sierra]

Biblically Accurate Dudunsparce

and as a Dudunsparce fan, I approve

[plush vault]

i hope melmetal is in ledgends za

[indigo mango]

i cant see it

[olive panther]

Would certainly be an odd choice.

[plush vault]

aww man

[indigo mango]

i mean i am with you on it being cool, i do like melmetal but i just cant see it

[plush vault]

yeah i guess

[warm knot]

X&Y had very few legendaries compared to other regions, I could see them adding Melmetal

[unborn elm]

Legends za-za

https://tenor.com/view/zaza-kitty-gif-13933489626931949339

[plush vault]

bruh

[unborn elm]

Bruh

[plush vault]

https://tenor.com/view/piplup-crip-walk-criplup-pokemon-mystery-dungeon-dancing-gif-11810057192557131484

[unborn elm]

Criplup

https://tenor.com/view/piplup-criplup-gif-5241670542230812717

[plush vault]

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-gif-20748683

[tepid flame]

It's like the same amount as Johto lmao

Which definitely feels like a correction during the DS era where you just get Legendaries out the ass

[warm knot]

Yeah but after Johto they started pumping out those legendaries

[tepid flame]

So then Kalos put a stop to that

Only to return to it after with Alola and beyond LMAO

[warm knot]

In gen 8 and 9 there were very few legendaries outside of the dlc

Alola went crazy

[tepid flame]

Yeah I'm counting the DLCs on this one

[warm knot]

Same

But it is crazy how the base game had almost no legendaries

There's Eternatus in main game that you got right before the champion and the box art legendary in the "postgame"

[indigo mango]

what about the ruins mons

also alola had alot? im not even counting solgaleo or lunala since while they are deities their origin makes them pretty average mons. so i dont even mind them

[warm knot]

Oh yeah forgot about the ruins

Alola had the 2 box arts (and their pre evolutions), necrozma, the 4 tapus, magearna, marshadow, zeraora, and the billion ultra beasts if you count them

[jade ocean]

Remember how we were looking at this and wondering who the mega stone in Row 2 Column 2 belonged to?

Well, i just realised

Neutral Xerneas has a very similar colour palette to that Mega Stone

And it'd make sense to give the 2 iconic box arts of XY Mega Evolutions

That said, I wonder if a Mega Xerneas would even be better than Base Xerneas

Since it would be unable to hold Power Herb

And thus can't use Geomancy in 1 turn

[unborn kelp]

I haven't talked in this channel, but I'm really hoping that column 4 row 2 is ||deoxys||

Hilarity would ensue, ||deoxys boogaloo: revenge against mega rayquaza||

[unborn elm]

Legends Za-Za better be gud

https://tenor.com/view/zaza-kitty-gif-13933489626931949339

[cloud shale]

until you find out the signature ability it gets when it mega evolves allows it to use every 2 turn move in 1 turn

so now you can get TWO geomancys in two turns instead of one geomancy and one moonblast or whatever

[jade ocean]

The world ends

[cloud shale]

can't wait for Malamar with Topsy-Turvy to become the new best Xerneas counter

wait why does Grapploct get Topsy-Turvy as well what

[sturdy flower]

nah it ain't him

[unborn kelp]

i can dream

an even glasser cannon

[sturdy flower]

alleged leaks

[unborn kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-animated-cartoon-bitsy-avantris-gif-11187993299591816380

[sturdy flower]

obviously we have no confirmation but they seem decently believable

the moment they show any new dlc mega we'll know if it's bullshit

[drowsy veldt]

||if all pokemon who learn hypnosis get mega forms excluding the ones that do, would they fight each other for who gets to hypnotize trainer? 🤔
(Spoiler tag because i am bored)||

[unborn kelp]

||I think they would just work together||

[drowsy veldt]

Mega malamar is recruiter with mega gardevoir as protector so their new friend stays safe.
Idk what mega gengar and mega hypno brings to the table.
(I know there is probably more hypnosis using pokemon, but brain is drawing blanks right now)

[jade narwhal]

Just remembered last year I did this

and well, now...

[drowsy veldt]

Did you somehow plant the idea into their heads to make mega raichu?

[jade ocean]

Mega Gengar assassinates everyone with the abilities Insomnia, Vital Spirit etc

[storm tinsel]

So we can blame you for mega raichu just being a fusion with pikachu! Off to the dungeons with you!
/j

[unborn kelp]

Oh geez, you know what that means

we will have to take away your pen and tablet now

[wicked solstice]

watch them announce that theyre removing mega raichu because of this

like what they did to the flying type eeveelution

[rustic rapids]

||Hey bored I'm woofa or smth||

[unborn elm]

Giving Gen 9 megas this quick is kinda unrealistic

Mega is for like older mons to get new hype’n stuff

Which is why in gen 6 literally every mega other then Diance was an older gen Mon

[warm knot]

Imagine if half the megas were locked behind $30 dlc

[sturdy flower]

dude that's how DLCs work

would you rather get a DLC that adds nothing of value, still for 30 bucks?

[sturdy flower]

i think it's absolutely possible, after all gens 7 and 8 are getting some too

[unborn elm]

Gen 7 is around 9 years old

And Gen 8 came out around 5-6 years ago

So they are pretty old at this point

HOLY FUCK SCARLET AND VIOLET ARE 3 YEARS OLD?

[sturdy flower]

they're still pretty recent in the grand scheme of things

but again, we'll have to wait and see

[warm knot]

I'd rather there was no dlc and the game had actual content

How can you support this practice genuinely

Are Nintendo in your house holding your family hostage

It's ok you can tell me

[vernal anchor]

mega Flygon better have that bug/dragon typing

[lime void]

What about Gen 7 mons getting Z moves in Gen 7 or Gen 8 mons getting G-max forms in Gen 8?

[lime void]

Gen 7 and 8 aren’t confirmed to be getting any megas yet. And considering that we’ve yet to see any post Gen 6 Pokémon in the trailers, I doubt that they will

[unborn elm]

I mean that’s the main gimmick so ofc sum gotta get

But terastilization doesn’t really make certain pkm look different

With the exception of ogerpon and terapagos

But if they do make Gen 9 megas

[warm knot]

It's kinda crazy how almost all the g-max forms were either gen 8 or gen 1 mons

[unborn elm]

The rouges need them

[unborn elm]

Cus gen 1 is gen 1

[lime void]

Now, I doubt that they will make any Gen 9 megas, for the reason I mentioned above, but in theory there’s no reason why Gen 9 couldn’t get megas

[unborn elm]

Yes

But I’d like for some other more underated Pom

Pkm

LIKE MY BOY HAXOURUS!!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-generations-haxorus-liepard-pokemon-gif-26635619

[storm tinsel]

I still don't know if Haxorus is really underrated snzjnsjsjsjsks

It's more gen 5 rep though

[unborn elm]

MY BEAUTIFUL SHOULD BE PSUEDO INSTEAD OF BUMDREGION DRAGON BOY

[storm tinsel]

Is Haxorus not a psuedo??

[unborn elm]

No

Sadly

It has a 550 bst I’m pretty sure

Hydregian is the pseudo

[lime void]

Mega Haxorus is one I’d really like to see. Plus, then I could throw Mega Dragonite off my team and into the garbage where it belongs

[unborn elm]

If there is mega Haxourus then I don’t give a fuck about dragonite

Might use it in another play through but Haxourus is the goat

THEY BETTER MAKE IT FUCKING FAST AS SHIT AND HIT LIKE A BULLET TRAIN

maybe some good defense sprinkled in

[unborn elm]

Personally I don’t mind mega dragonite

[sturdy flower]

they literally are

[unborn elm]

https://tenor.com/view/dragonite-pokémon-pokémon-legends-z-a-lumiose-city-kalos-gif-14917645894010092572

Like

[sturdy flower]

||drampa and falinks|| are both getting a mega

[unborn elm]

It’s just a cute and cuddly dude that can probably vaporize you

[sturdy flower]

what's the point of speculating over the new megas while refusing to acknowledge the leaks that have been out for literally months

[sturdy flower]

the game isn't even out yet, genuinely what are you even talking about

[lime void]

The only Pokémon that are confirmed to be getting megas so far are Dragonite, Victreebel, Hawlucha, Malamar, Chesnaught, Delphox, Greninja and Raichu, non of which are Gen 7 or 8 Pokémon

[sturdy flower]

alright I'm not doing this

if you refuse to acknowledge the leaks it's not my problem

[warm knot]

Me when I use unconfirmed, unreleased information to support my argument

[sturdy flower]

did you realize what you said after you posted it

and deleted it

[warm knot]

No I knew

I'm still not 100% sure if you're baiting or not

You might just be a shill

[lime void]

Now, I’d be absolutely down for Gen 7 & 8 mons to get megas, but I kind of doubt it’s going to happen

[sturdy flower]

what the actual fuck are you talking about

this shit is actually baffling

[warm knot]

That's what I'm saying

[lime void]

What’s baffling is you treating an unofficial source as if it were gospel

[sturdy flower]

i said I wouldn't have this discussion and I won't

it's pointless

[warm knot]

You just don't understand Darkweavile, they already KNOW what megas are available

Their uncle works in nintendo

[lime void]

So does mine, and he told me that all Gen 1 Pokémon are being removed from the game, so I guess it’s true

[void brook]

I personally do not like leaks because they ruin the surprise of announcements.

[hazy knot]

same, but ||they are very much obviously real||

[void brook]

||That is why I try to ignore them.||

[hazy knot]

||same lol||

[void brook]

||Glad we agree.||

[brittle wadi]

i wonder

surely clemont will make SOME sort of appearance in ZA

obviously not as a gym leader

but surely

[void brook]

I think they'll have several characters from X and Y in ZA, and Clemont would most likely be in ZA.

[lime void]

Of course, that assumes that they’re true. There are PLENTY of fake leaks out there

[void brook]

Plenty of rumors are out there, but when a true leak happens, I do not like it at all.

[brittle wadi]

i would be suprised to not see him. he lives in lumiose, was a major character in the anime, its not been TOO long since the games

[warm knot]

I like it when we get a leak like the tera leak

When we get a bunch of information like scrapped games and story beats

[void brook]

Why?

[warm knot]

It's neat

[void brook]

Oh, for the scrapped stuff?

[brittle wadi]

also would be interesting to see the XY game companions (im sure they could write off calem/serena as being on their own journey)

[warm knot]

But if we get a big leak about an upcoming game that's less fun

Yeah

[brittle wadi]

but i wouldnt be suprised if they wont appear

[void brook]

I still don't like it, but I don't care as much about it as a leak about a game that's yet to be released.

[void brook]

Yeah, if they don't have the XY companion characters it's fine.

[brittle wadi]

would be cool if they were tho

but im not hopeful

[void brook]

I just want to wait to see what they announce next, even if I don't watch the direct before someone says what was revealed in it.

(I mainly care about if the person is actually talking about information revealed by Game Freak or not)

[indigo mango]

then you must be lying. they would rather make it gen 1 only then ever do that

[lime void]

cough cough Let’s Go cough cough

[drowsy veldt]

we do not consider let's go a pokemon remake of kanto
more of pokemongo on switch

[lime void]

It IS a remake of Kanto

A bad one

[indigo mango]

i think he meant to say like red and blue or something

its def kanto lul

[drowsy veldt]

The let's go games just doesn't feel like an actual pokemon game and more of a collab with pokemongo.
-# I know it is the second remake of Kanto. Really hate the only way to level up is catch a million pokemon.

[indigo mango]

za evolving up seems to be you having to do it manually

for some thats probably a quality of life thing..i prefered getting a suprise overworld evo

[fading sonnet]

Cause of the Pokemon Go integration?

True.

If it were an actual pokemon game like its original predecessor, it would be much of a good challenge.

[olive panther]

So, same as in Arceus? I'm fine with it either way, especially if we're getting no new evos and just megas. No real surprises, unless you haven't seen some mons before.

[lime void]

That, and their refusal to include any of the improvements made in FRLG

[indigo mango]

was it manually in arceus

i dont even recall

i thought it was in the overworld

[void brook]

What do you mean by "manually"?

[indigo mango]

you gotzta get in a menu and select for the mon to evolve

when before it was just happend when the level was met or some other requirement

[void brook]

Oh, so you mean to evolve your Pokemon.

Legends Arceus had manual evolving of your Pokemon.

[indigo mango]

ohhhhhhhh

i said leveling

damn brain wtf

i emant evolving

[indigo mango]

this was supposed to be evlving

tho redknight understood what i meant so atleast no real issue

[void brook]

Yeah, I was just clarifying in case you didn't know.

[olive panther]

I figured it was wrong word, because manual levelling sounds incredibly tedious.

[fickle birch]

Worked on a sprite of one of the new Pokémon. 🙂

[lime void]

That’s very clearly 4 sprites

[hazy knot]

True..

[opal gull]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/1njhtcj/i_combined_my_favourite_parts_of_the_raichu_megas/

[olive panther]

You know, I like it.

[hallow swallow]

just preordered za, anyone else get the game mat?

[storm tinsel]

The wha

Are you doing ddr with pokemon or am I massively misunderstanding what a game mat is

[tepid flame]

No he's correct

Game mat as in mouse mat

At least judging by the size and width of this thing lol

[storm tinsel]

Ohhh

[tepid flame]

I mean you're not using this as a stepping mat I hope

[storm tinsel]

That makes so much more sense

Although still weird to get a mouse mat for a console game, but I guess Switch 2 has mouse features now technically

[tepid flame]

I'm sure it's just something you can use in general not just for gaming usage

I feel like most people have a mouse mat by now in their setups/battle stations

[flat imp]

(suspiciously green skin) I did not eat the radioactive shrimp

[forest egret]

Full of Uranium

[grim trench]

Radioactive Shrimp from Walmart

[opal gull]

did ya'll hear mega toothpaste got confirmed

[tepid flame]

I think the toothpaste makes you trans be careful

[forest egret]

Toothpaste that changes your gender

[opal gull]

toothpaste that changes your teeths gender

[tepid flame]

"You use the toothpaste that makes you trans?"
"I used the toothpaste that makes me trans"

[cunning sierra]

Calling it now, it's gonna have a magical girl theme

[opal gull]

didn't braixen do that already

[mighty vessel]

mega trans sylveon

[forest egret]

I wouldn't say Braixen and Delphox have the magical girl theming personally

[narrow tide]

i don't mind a mega evolution for sylveon (in fact i think that's amazing) but are they only doing it for sylveon?

[wooden lion]

Tbh I feel if it was sylveon, wouldn’t pink be the primary colour instead of blue?

[mighty vessel]

i dont know just a trans toothpath mega and trans tooth path pokemon

[mighty vessel]

maybe

But what other pokemon have the trans flag on it ?

[wooden lion]

True ig

The colours are too light to be like, Togekiss

[mighty vessel]

yeah

i only see sylveon but maybe it's a pokemon who change color like charizard and mega charizard x

[wooden lion]

If it is mega sylveon, I hope it has like, a big bow or something silly like that

Someone to do with the ribbons honestly

[mighty vessel]

it would be cool like Mega Audino

[wooden lion]

Was more thinking along the lines of mega Diance but ye

[lime void]

So it would change gender while it’s mega evolved?

[fading sonnet]

Is it better than the Colgate toothpaste with tartar control that makes one feel like a piece of s◾ ◾ t?

[mighty vessel]

it would just became cis

[lime void]

I don’t think you would be cis if you were constantly changing genders

[indigo mango]

its so funny how obviosuly fake it looks and still some youtubers fell for it and put it in their news videos

some just do it for clickbait but i know atleast one fell for it

[opal gull]

assumed it was from that one scene with all the mega stones

[indigo mango]

its so high quality, its kinda obvious its fake

the mega stones where revealed in a fast moving video in the background, you aint gonna get such a clear shot

[mighty vessel]

Mmmmhhhhhh yeah but it’s like detransioning

[storm tinsel]

Genderfluid?

[acoustic igloo]

Yeah. They never bothered to take the blue out from between the pink and the white.

[mighty vessel]

mmmmhhhh

then he would be purple and gray

[distant crag]

Varoom?

Also for za ik base game dlc all that I heard multi-player features have a pay wall is this true

[brave gyro]

Thought I heard this was a photoshop tbh

[arctic pendant]

I thought the pay wall was the fact you have to pay for online?

[brave gyro]

$20 a year, yeah. It's pretty cheap.

[arctic pendant]

Agreed

Much better than Xbox

[mighty vessel]

Yes like every online multyplayer nitendo feature

[mighty vessel]

Nah genderfluid mega sylveon

[distant crag]

oh ight. I havent actively played newer games much ngl, I've gone up to about hoenn not remakes and thats about it lmao. debating getting za

[brave gyro]

It'll be a shock.

[desert current]

This is clearly an edited image. The swirl in the middle of the Mega Stones doesn't have three segments, and the lines are too imperfect (and don't have the same level of blurriness) and don't match the rest of the image.

Why are people treating this seriously? Just look at these ones in comparison, it doesn't look right at all.

Like you can tell the pink sections were selected/edited using the line tool in photoshop or GIMP

[opal gull]

good to know but w/e was making a funny toothpaste joke didnt care to base any predictions off it

[desert current]

I don't blame you so much as I'm confused as to why everyone else didn't notice...

[opal gull]

prob most people didnt care tp analyze the stones in trailer deeply so didnt have a comparison point in memeory to notice if it was off or missing

[jade ocean]

Tbf half of the people weren't taking it seriously either and just said something along the lines of "trans stone"

[desert current]

I guess you're right

[drowsy veldt]

Recommended 5/5 dentist to not use toothpaste mega stone

[warm knot]

Big teeth doesn't want you to know this but eating mega stones actually boosts your oral health

[jade narwhal]

Guaranteed whiteness and strength, just ask Glalie

[rustic rapids]

man I don't like the mega x and y of raichu

they just don't fit

the normal x and y thing

y is supposed to be the normal mega

and x is just the opposite

so physical tough claws charizard and physical mewtwo

bujt

they just look like the fucking letters

[indigo mango]

dont you mean mega pikachu x and y

[rustic rapids]

I'm just like so sad

cause

alolan raichu

was so peak

literally 100x better than the megas

they could still make the megas look like x and y but

why so literal

[warm knot]

They really do just feel like Mega Pikachu 1 and Mega Pikachu 2

[storm tinsel]

If they were called what they were as Pikachu and Raichu fusions 1 and 2 it would be fine (although obviously random lol)

There's sort of precedent for it as mega Ampharos brings back in the wool from its pre evos but the mega Raichus feel different, they feel more like, "We wanted to give the better pokemon the mascott a mega but couldn't so we gave the evo a mega that makes it a Pikachu"

[storm tinsel]

Like maybe you could get away with it for mega Raichu X if it wasn't yellow, but Y just is a Pikachu

[warm knot]

It's like that time they gave Pikachu a gigantamax but not raichu

[drowsy veldt]

"Ash has Pikachu and hasn't evolved it for 20 plus years, so therefore, raichu doesn't exist."
-gamefreak

[indigo mango]

Pikachu doesnt want to evolve

Ash wanted it to a few times

also not the logic, Ashs Pikachu hasnt evolved because Pikachu is the Mascot..its not the other way around lul

even in the new Anime with Ash gone. they just added a new Pikachu lul

[drowsy veldt]

i'm aware gamefreak is obsessed with their pikachu mascot.
i'm just making a little joke excuse for them as to why raichu doesn't exist.

i haven't seen the no ash cartoon, but hopefully evil group isn't trying to steal pikachu.

[indigo mango]

dont know, do know its another famous pikachu known for its strengh

[warm knot]

I watched some of it, but the new pikachu got so much focus that it felt like nothing's changed

There were like 3 episodes in a row where they got into some trouble and pikachu comes in and saves the day last minute

Made me drop it

[storm tinsel]

That's unfortunate, new protagonists is the perfect opportunity for new pokemon in the spotlight but I guess they aren't willing to do that

[warm knot]

I heard they got a lot of development since then but that really ruined my excitement for the show

It doesn't help that the guy with the pikachu also has a charizard and they find every opportunity they can to shove him in

[storm tinsel]

Other pokemon exist please let them be stars

We have 1,000+ of them, we can give love to more than 2

[void brook]

I don't like the Pikachu and Charizard attention.

[drowsy veldt]

We add maractus instead of Pikachu and charlizard
By force!
-# jk, I can't just wave a hand and edit reality to add a pokemon only in unova and a dlc

[fleet bloom]

lol

they should make pokemon jack black and walter white as remasters of black and white

[jade ocean]

Fun fact: Emboar's "Species" is Mega Fire Pig

So if we do get Megas for the ZA starters, we will get Mega Meganium and Mega Mega Fire Pig

[final pilot]

well i knonw of 3 mega i never get as i dont do online battle. so sad casue all 3 x and y start mega look great

[warm knot]

Bi so curious

[spare roost]

its interesting that the new show has a trainer whose mains are both Charizard AND Pikachu and both steal the spotlight

[jade ocean]

Ngl that sounds like shit

Like bro the anime has been focused around a singular trainer who always had a Pikachu

We don't need another trainer with a Pikachu

[charred sage]

sounds like Standard Protocol lol

pikachu + current gen first partners starters + charizard

which makes sense since Series Mascot and all

[tepid flame]

It's annoying cuz the trainer in question is actually p cool and it's nice to see a Pikachu that isn't led by its own id but also damn I don't need that Charizard there

[drowsy veldt]

If I do a pokemon infinite fusion run with Pikachu and Charizard, am I main character? 🤔

[lime void]

You would be someone I banish to the shadow realm for using the demon lizard

[olive panther]

But what if you fused charizard with pikachu?

[lime void]

That does not absolve the issue. At all

[storm tinsel]

Lolololol

[olive panther]

I didn't want to fix the issue. I wanted to make it worse. Because now you can fit twice the number of charizard and pikachu on the team.

[indigo mango]

its even wilder sicne the new protag has almost a full team of just legendaries in her party but still kinda sucks at battles

mmh ok she had less then i thought

she used to have a Galarian Moltres and a Gouging Fire and currently still uses Tarapogos

so had 3 and now 1 still

[drowsy veldt]

Would you banish Red to the shadow realm?

[cloud shale]

yeah the main character should have my friend Malamar as their signature pokemon cmon

[viscid adder]

a villain focused story about a malamar and their sidekick trainer?

i'd watch that

[granite bay]

Lowkey can we discuss mega starmie rq

It better not be just starmie but with legs

Thats gonna be the most pathetic thing i’ve ever seen-

Not even mega audino looks this bad

[warm knot]

It's not like the other new megas are very interesting

[granite bay]

I find them pretty cool apart from victreebell.. little basic but okay

Mega starmie is just… starmie with legs

[drowsy veldt]

I want a spriter to make delibird's sack be mega victreebel for the victreebel/delibird fusion.
-# would request it, but idk if my current request was accepted and done. Plus I might not be the first one to think of this.

[indigo mango]

mega delibird would probably be more santa like

[cunning sierra]

Or maybe to subvert expectations, maybe a Krampus Delibird that's Ice/Dark

[indigo mango]

eh thats too much effort

[cunning sierra]

Heck Delibird X could be Santa, Delibird Y could be Krampus

Still unlikely but just an idea

[slender harbor]

Guys

Would a mega enti suicune and rails be cool?

[drowsy veldt]

Who mega evolved the rails? The train needs to go over those.
-# speaking of raikou, it needs more love from gamefreak. Considering we got time beast forms of entei, suicune, and raikou, I doubt they'll get mega forms.

[jade ocean]

OK but why would we make a Delibird mega

Delibird's the type of Pokemon that needs an evolution

And honestly that evolution would probably also need an evolution since Delibird is so weak

A Mega would do nothing for it

[granite bay]

I agree, delibird just needs a new evo instead of a mega

Maybe just an evo line for the poor thing

[indigo mango]

its very very unlikely we get an evo in ZA

also seeing more clicps of the battle system in ZA it looks so bad to me

walking around the whole time feels weird. so i will probably find a good place to stand and just stand there the whole battle. i dont wanna walk and set moves at the same time. and then the Battle UI is so cluttered

also didnt walk around in legend arceus

but there atleast it didnt feel so cluttered with shit on my screen

[drowsy veldt]

You must walk to get groceries while your pokemon fight

[spare roost]

Delibird won't get anything since it just got Iron Bundle

[amber monolith]

counterpoint: alolan meowth, alolan persian, galarian meowth, perserker, g-max meowth

where am i going with this this? idk

[hazy knot]

i didn’t think about meowth getting a regional variant, cross-gen evo, and g-max all in the same region actually 😭

[storm tinsel]

Meowth captures Pikachu and becomes the new mascott, getting a regional form for every single region

[jade ocean]

And then they all end up being PU at best because it's Meowth

[cunning sierra]

I'm looking through the teased Mega Stones from the DLC trailer and I'm stumped on some of them

I have all but one

[jade ocean]

Do tell what you think they are

Because I have no clue on quite a few of them too

[cunning sierra]

I'm making an image of all them together

[drowsy veldt]

Mega Persian looking like a meowth?
Giovanni wouldn't allow this.

[cunning sierra]

The second row blue one is the toughest one since the colors barely match any Pokémon

[jade ocean]

||It really doesn't, does it? The best I've got is Neutral Xerneas, but I'd imagine a Mega would be more colourful, like Active Xerneas||

[cunning sierra]

Here's the image I found btw of all of them

And it was third row, not second. Had it wrong

[jade ocean]

||Oh, 3rd row one? Looks like Gastrodon, but that makes no sense since there's 2 Gastrodon forms||

||So I genuinely don't have a clue either||

||Some pointed out how the top row pink one looks like the other Gastrodon, but why 2 Mega Stones for the 2 forms with the same stats?||

||Will there be 2 seperate Megas with different stats?||

[cunning sierra]

You might've actually helped me out big time

[jade ocean]

||That one next to the weird kinda Gastrodon-y one is probably just Crabominable||

||Like the colours match up perfectly||

||I genuinely can't think of what else it could be||

||That one's gonna be fun to see revealed, since Crabominable is a pretty hated Pokemon||

[indigo mango]

still bothered about that shit looking UI. why does it show the moves on top of the mon and on the sides and those side attack text covers like half the screen...then the mons on the bottom left are also such huge images. imma hope there is a setting to atleast turn off that it says the move ontop of a mon cause that just looks stupid. but knowing Pokemon i doubt there is any quality of life changes

im probably just fight some mons at the start of the game to level enough to just one shot enemies so i have to not deal with the battling much lul

[storm tinsel]

Genuine question, do you think you'll enjoy this game? You seem to be getting it but also seem to not actually like any component of it

[indigo mango]

mmh?

i been only having an issue with the battling, didnt say anything else bad

and battling in pokemon isnt somrthing i care about in pokemon games anyway, i play for the story and this time walking around with my mons. also the dressing up

[storm tinsel]

Oh okay 👍

[indigo mango]

ye. just complaining cause unlike normal this time the battling is gonna outright be even more annoying to me cause of these things, unlike before where i just didnt much care. now i gotta deal with that too

[cunning sierra]

Ok, bear with these possibilites

The super blurry ones I based off of the colors I could see

[warm knot]

||Mega Gliscor, Talonflame, Rotom and Yanmega would go SO HARD||

[jade ocean]

||If Mega Goodra existed my life would be complete||

||It's so dumb that the Gen 6 Pseudo has 0 Mega||

||Just like how the Gen 6 Starters having 0 Megas was stupid||

||I will say, the mega stone you linked to Flygon doesn't feel like the colours match at all, I think it's more likely Victreebelite since the colours match very closely with it||

[cunning sierra]

||maybe, I only said that for the Flygon because I could see a Flygon in the reflection, but I think looking at the colors, it's Yanmega's stone and the other is Flygon.||

[outer frigate]

I heard Falinks or haxorus could be getting a mega evolution in za

Not that haxorus needs it though

[warm knot]

Falinks is a bit too recent imo

[outer frigate]

I know but falinks was a big hit and got lots of popularity

[warm knot]

That's true

I've seen some art of mega falinks that just has the little dudes form up ultron style and I'd be lying if I said that wouldn't be pretty funny

[outer frigate]

I would really like a mega falinks

But I am going to be very scared if there is going to be mega haxorus

Another thing is mega machamp

He has a chance

But I am 99% sure of mega dragonite

[warm knot]

Crazy that machamp hasn't gotten a mega yet

It got a gmax but that's it

[jade ocean]

Idk though bro's like RUBL or something

And I don't think it has a niche in VGC

I mean there's better recipients but I wouldn't mind Hax

[warm knot]

Mega Haxorus, special attacker with Contrary

https://tenor.com/view/dnd-gif-19362487

[jade ocean]

Holy Draco Meteor spam

[outer frigate]

Ok that is scary

[warm knot]

Oh yeah baby it's gen 5 all over again

[jade ocean]

But wtf else would it use

Surf?

[outer frigate]

I have a feeling about mega toxicroak

[cunning sierra]

I actually had Toxicroak down for my predictions but I had a lot of Sinnoh Pokemon listed

[jade ocean]

Wait it has Focus Blast it's gambling time

[warm knot]

Oh hell yeah

[cunning sierra]

I was trying to be diverse with regions because I didn't want there to be too many from one region in my predictions

[outer frigate]

Sinnoh Pokémon are gonna get soooo many megas

[warm knot]

Honestly Sinnoh has been pretty forgotten when it comes to new forms iirc

They could definitely give it a good amount of megas

[jade ocean]

By that logic Kalos and Unova are even more forgotten

[warm knot]

But they're more recent I guess

[jade ocean]

OK but nothing can explain the Mega Generation having 1 Mega from that generation

Being the mythical

And the Mega was introduced in ORAS and not XY

[cunning sierra]

Audino is the ONLY Unova Pokemon with a Mega

Hopefully that changes

[jade ocean]

In comparison, Sinnoh has 5 different Megas

[warm knot]

This is true

[jade ocean]

With that said, Mega Garchomp is worthless

And Abomasnow is Abomasnow

[cunning sierra]

Time will tell on what's added, but we're at least thinking of fun ideas while doing so

[jade ocean]

But Lopunny went from garbage to major threat

[warm knot]

Which way new gimmick? Megas gave none to kalos mons and almost everything to kanto, and g-max gave half to new pokemon and half to kanto pokemon

Either way kanto gets new stuff

[jade ocean]

It's hard to tell whether Unova or Kalos got it worse

Mega for a bad Pokemon that removed the base Pokemon's best ability

Vs Mythical Mega

AKA barely anyone will use it on cart

Because barely anyone even has a Diancie in the first place

[warm knot]

I've heard enough, mega manaphy

Make it a japan event exclusive

[jade ocean]

I would say Hoenn getting a lot of Megas makes sense since ORAS exists

But it actually got almost as many Megas as Kanto did in XY

[warm knot]

That's crazy

[jade ocean]

With both Lati Twins being in the code for XY

Showing that they (and likely ORAS as a whole) were planned back then

[warm knot]

I wonder if gen 5 remakes will get gen 10's gimmick

[warm knot]

Well yeah they didn't come out that far apart right

I've lost track of the conversation

[cunning sierra]

Mega Phione for American exclusive lol

[warm knot]

+100 to speed and nothing else

[warm knot]

Honestly I've always liked looking at fan-made megas, and now that mega evolutions are coming back we're getting a whole lot more fan designs

So I'm happy with that at least

[jade ocean]

They should give Porygon-Z multiple megas

Specifically so that we can have Mega Porygon-Z-A

It would be funny

[cunning sierra]

Porygon-Z would just be Missingno

Think about it: The original Missingno. was supposed to be a "Bird" type and Porygon is bird shaped. That and the Shiny Porygon isn't too far off from the Missingno sprite colors.

[warm knot]

That could be cool actually

I doubt they'd seriously acknowledge Missingno though

[cunning sierra]

Well Porygon-Z is already "corrupt data" so what's the step above that? Glitches or Fatal Errors

Maybe the Mega could glitch between phases of Porygon or something

[storm tinsel]

Could you imagine mega evolving Porygon Z and your game crashes instantly and deletes your entire save file

[cunning sierra]

The Mega gives a fake crash screen lol

[cunning sierra]

Ok deadass, as soon as I sent that my wifi disconnected lol

It's trying to tell me something

[drowsy veldt]

We do not mention that mega.
It will cut onyxsylvian's wifi again...

[storm tinsel]

If you name the virus it will find you...

[drowsy veldt]

Mine is Avery.
If I type that name on pc, it will crash.
-# it did years ago and probably doesn't now, but I'm not testing it

I'm on phone. I'm safe

[storm tinsel]

Avery is a scary monster living in computer hard drives

[outer frigate]

Hey what do you guys think about mega baxcalibur

What megas do you guys think should be in za

I am 90% sure of a type of mega zygarde

[olive panther]

Why is this giving me Hollow Knight vibes?

[fickle birch]

Oh that is insanely cool. 🙂

[forest egret]

Thanks

[fickle birch]

Apparently there's a demo out, and for anyone paying attention to leaks, ||you can get Mega Victreebel's Mega Stone, and it doesn't match the one from the DLC trailer that people thought it was||. 😮

[covert rune]

It's for Venusaur apparently

According to the rough translation I was given

[indigo mango]

its venusaur

which i feel like is easy enough to find out when you translate it

only reason i believe its venusaur is cause the image translate gave me very clearly venusaur twice in the text...which seems weird if it isnt venusaur

just confused cause thats not what venusaurs mega stone looks like

[warm knot]

This is apparently what venausarite looked like in previous games

It's very possible they updated the mega stone's colors

But venusaur doesn't have that much yellow in its color scheme

[indigo mango]

ye but def venusaur

i doubt we are giving it a dif mega

so must just be a new design

[warm knot]

Makes sense

If they give you the Venusarite this early then they must give you both charizard stones when you boot up the game

Maybe a gift charmander in route 1 too

[drowsy veldt]

so we have to be the main character of cartoon with pikachu and charizard on this game if true

well, we're the main character anyway, but still. there is more pokemon out there

[civic cave]

it's victreebel
victreebel is 大食花 in chinese

[indigo mango]

i believe you on the fact that it fits the mega stone better but is the name that similar that it would translate to venusaur of all things when translating from chinese?

especially when the above text translates to big flower...which is venusaur

victreebell is not a flower

but due to the huge change in mega stone, imma believe you

[civic cave]

translation issue

[indigo mango]

mmh ok yeah i put only the above text in the same (poor) translater and now it says big food flower and thats def victreebell

[civic cave]

big food flower sounds funny

[indigo mango]

mmh but it always tries to translate the text to venusaur. guessing they are very very similar in chinese

[warm knot]

suspicious

[odd cave]

Maybe there's a possibility for mega Y venusaur and blastoise

[drowsy veldt]

||if mega y venusaur and blastoise exist, they better not look like bulbasaur and squirtle.
(I just woke up and felt like spoiler tags. Don't mind me)||

[storm tinsel]

||I mean if neither Charizard Y nor Charizard X look like Charmander I don't know why Venusaur and Blastoise Y would look like their pre-evos||

[drowsy veldt]

||it's mainly due to how they did raichu. Highly doubt they would make them look like the first stage, but i don't currently have high hopes for gamefreak right now.||

[storm tinsel]

||Yeah that's fair, although I think Raichu was a special case since Pikachu is the mascott and in their eyes therefore the all around better pokemon||

[indigo mango]

All megas contain something of their pre evo but dragonite and raichu are extreme

[storm tinsel]

So I don't disagree with the notion that Dragonite has pre evo features but I do disagree with it being extreme and it being the same as Raichu

Although I'm biased and think Dragonite just doesn't have much going on

[indigo mango]

i didnt say the same as raichu but compared to reg megas these 2 are outliers

[forest egret]

Do all Megas contain prevo features? I don't know if that's true

[warm knot]

Not all but definitely some

[storm tinsel]

Mega Ampharos definitely
Mega Gengar I could see as sharing some traits with Haunter
Mega Charizard Y kind of gets that one head spike back from Charmeleon
Mega Gyrados feels more fish like if that makes sense

[sinful dagger]

this is the image people showed me about why they did what they did to gyarados

[storm tinsel]

Ooh that's interesting

Does anyone remember that episode that randomly had a gigantic Dragonite?

I'm kind of surprised they didn't give it a gigantamax form because of that (although I guess aside from being giant, the giant dragonite didn't have any design differences)

[wicked solstice]

big tentacruel

in the episode that got banned for reminding people of an event

[forest egret]

Yeah of course, I think some it feels intentional

But I don't think it applies to every mega

[flat imp]

i lowkey hate mega gyara and i dotn know if thats a hot take

i like the color scheme but i dont like the design

[tawdry flame]

I had a dream where I played legends za ||and there was a fairy type regional form for sandslash. I remember catching a shiny of it.||

[storm tinsel]

I think big dragonite was a different episode than tentacruel

[mellow trail]

why is bro spoilering a concept they came up with in a dream

[storm tinsel]

His dreams work at Nintendo but not him

[tawdry flame]

|| because za will have no regional forms at all||

[drowsy veldt]

Because if gamefreak realize we dream pokemon, they will take offense.
-# jk

[warm knot]

What would a fairy type sandslash look like

Maybe rainbow crystals instead of spikes on its back

[storm tinsel]

If you're going rainbow, you could do cool things with bismuth

Also can confirm the giant dragonite was a different episode, Mystery of the Lighthouse

[fair gazelle]

wasnt their a new form of a flower pokemon tho??

[robust wren]

The only "new" form of a flower Pokemon I can think of in relation to ZA would be ||Eternal Flower Floette,|| but that's not exactly new considering it's been in the code for XY all this time

[jade ocean]

We don't need to spoiler text eternal flower floette guys it was literally in a trailer

And also it isn't really new

[solemn sail]

im just happy that we get to actually see eternal flower floette in a game, its such a cool idea for a form of a pokemon

[tawdry flame]

Only 2 more weeks until za releases

[warm knot]

That's crazy

[tawdry flame]

I'm going to buy the game, but not the dlc

[warm knot]

Ok man

[tawdry flame]

just curious but what's everyone's favorite kalos pokemon?

[robust wren]

Probably Aegislash.

[solemn sail]

my favorite kalos pokemon is goodra. I get to play day 1 since i pre ordered

[jade ocean]

Idk, Yveltal maybe

[indigo mango]

you and everyone who buys it via the online store

[solemn sail]

i pre ordered it at the store so all i have to do is pick it up on the 16th

[storm tinsel]

Pumpkaboo

[civic cave]

sylveon

[indigo mango]

so...the same as just buying it on the 16th?

you pretty much just reserved it

i think you only get the pre order bonus when you pre order online

[spare roost]

can't believe i was avoiding spoilers for ZA and just now founding out Floette is getting a new variant form

i should really have not checked this channel

[indigo mango]

it is? way too spoil me lul. i have no idea where it says that in this channel

mmh yeah cant find it

[storm tinsel]

I thought the point of this channel to be honest was so that all spoilers would be contained to here so if you didn't want spoiled just don't go here?

[lime void]

I’m pretty sure that it’s a joke, given that we’ve known about eternal flower Floette since Gen 6

[storm tinsel]

Ohhh okay

[acoustic igloo]

What's funny is that it had a dex entry in USUM, despite still being unavailable without hacking.

[noble ice]

With there being new Megas and maybe new regional Pokémon coming to the game, what’s a new Pokémon type combination you guys like to see

[warm knot]

Poison Fairy sylveon

[acoustic igloo]

Ghost/Rock. It's ridiculous that Runerigus wasn't one.

[noble ice]

Please, if Flygon is getting a mega, let that change him into a Bug/Dragon

[tepid flame]

Surely Fire/Fairy is overdue

As is Ghost/Rock too

[lime void]

Galarian Weezing: am I a joke to you?

[warm knot]

Give Neutralizing Gas to a better pokemon

[jade ocean]

That would honestly be the last thing I'd want

Because Bug/Dragon would be such a massive downgrade from Ground/Dragon

Besides, having a Pokemon that canonically stirs up sandstorms be capable of getting damaged by Sandstorm just doesn't seem right

[tepid flame]

That's not really a problem

They could whip up a dumb overly complex sig ability for Mega Flygon at that point

"This Pokemon is immune from weather and terrain damage, and ignores damage boost of moves boosted from the weather or terrain" or some stuff like that

[storm tinsel]

Wait we still don't have fire fairy???

[jade ocean]

Can't wait for Mega Flygon to become Bug/Dragon, but have an ability that removes all Bug weaknesses, adds all Ground resistances and an Electric immunity, get Ground STAB, become immune to Sandstorm, become immune to Ground, start Sandstorm and yknow what for good measure it turns all sound moves into Ground moves so you can spam STAB Ground type Boomburst

[drowsy veldt]

||i shall summon new megas! (puts out mega wanted sign)||

[storm tinsel]

Y'know it's weird Delphox wasn't fire fairy, I feel witchcraft is as good a reason for fairy as it is for psychic and its the starter for the fairy region

[jade ocean]

The main types I can think of that we don't have are Fire/Fairy, Ground/Fairy, Poison/Ice, a bunch of Normal pairings and Rock/Ghost

We also only have Ice/Fire on a form for a Pokemon attached to an ability

... Where the other ability is just broken as fuck

So nobody is ever using that ability and thus that temporary form

[storm tinsel]

Which pokemon is ice/fire?

[jade ocean]

Who tf is using Zen Mode Gdarm

[storm tinsel]

Ohhhhh

[jade ocean]

When Gorilla Tactics is right there

"Ah yes I'd rather have to activate a form at 50% HP on a frail Pokemon with a shit defensive type"

"Than have a free 1.5× Attack boost"

Yeah sure it locks you into a move but Darmanitan's the type of Pokemon to always run Choice Items anyways

[tepid flame]

Tbh I'm still surprised it took them 8 gens to finally just combine Normal with another type weak to Fighting

And we already had a near-perfect Normal/Steel in that Pokestar opponent in Gen 5 too

[storm tinsel]

So I'd like to see fire/fairy, another ice/fire and bug/dragon the most

[jade ocean]

Ground/Fairy would be giga busted

Well apart from Corviknight/Skarm hard countering the type I guess

[tepid flame]

You never know

They could get the Tinkaton treatment

[jade ocean]

Don't call it the Tinkaton treatment, instead call it the Base Mawile Treatment

[tawdry flame]

Tinkaton but underwhelming special attack

[robust wren]

I would like to see a Bug/Ghost type that isn't just a gimmick

Shedinja is fun and all, but that's a type combo that has some fun design potential beyond gimmicks

[storm tinsel]

Shedinja 2

Maybe a moth could lend itself to a fun ragged ghostly design

[warm knot]

A moth that flew too close to the lamp

Bug/Ghost with Flash Fire

[odd cave]

Ground/fairy, although it's kinda scary

[indigo mango]

Something designed after a Corpse Moth would fit

[fickle birch]

I did the Smogon sprite for ||Mega Victreebel||, with heavy QC from the others of course. 😄

[indigo mango]

i dunno what that is but congrats

[plain wharf]

They’re already working on the sprites for the new megas?

[jade ocean]

Like with Legends: Arceus, the Megas will likely be implemented very quickly after L:ZA releases using data in the code to check stats and abilities even if there is a chance for the Abilities to change in their next appearance

While they probably won't be playable in any format, we could still use them in custom games to get an idea of how good they'd be

Or for fun vs friends

[plain wharf]

I would be shocked if abilities would be known from ZA files, don’t think they were for PLA.

[jade ocean]

They were in PLA

Even if they didn't work

[plain wharf]

Oh

[jade ocean]

And they did change from L:A to SV

[plain wharf]

It’s been a few years so I forgor

[jade ocean]

So they aren't by any means final

But they should be decent enough in the meantime while waiting for the Megas to appear in a more standard game

[plain wharf]

where there any notable/big differences

I also did forget that PLZA releases in like 3 weeks, which means we should expect a physical copy to release and be datamined sometime soon

[jade ocean]

Samurott Hisui got Sharpness as a Hidden Ability between L:A and SV

Originally it was Shell Armor

Same applies for H-Decid and Scrappy, as well as H-Typh and Frisk

[plain wharf]

Typh was robbed

[jade ocean]

Kleavor also gained Sharpness as a HA

[plain wharf]

unless whatever it had prior was turbo ass

[jade ocean]

Basculegion gained Swift Swim over Rattled, a base ability

H-Braviary gains Tinted Lens over Defiant as a HA

Arcanine gains Rock Head over Justified as HA

Goodra gains Shell Armor over Overcoat

This one is noteworthy, as this is the only scenario so far where the replaced ability was one that the base form doesn't have

In this slot, base Goodra has Hydration

[plain wharf]

it was flash fire, why didn’t they let him have that