pokemon-winds-waves

[jade ocean]

Huh, could've sworn that the only mainline titles are the ones that mark a new generation

[sturdy flower]

alright so USUM is a different gen from SM?

[jade ocean]

Well, according to your logic, either it is or it isn't a mainline

[sturdy flower]

what's the point of this discussion exactly

ultimately fan nomenclature barely matters

[jade ocean]

The point is that Legends Arceus is a mainline game, and presumably so is ZA

[sturdy flower]

great. what does that change though

[jade ocean]

Which makes this point wrong

I can see why someone would not like that the Legends games are so different from the other mainline games

[sturdy flower]

the gameplay is still different, we knew it was gonna be because we already got Arceus

[jade ocean]

Though I personally see no issue in it

I'm curious as to how ZA will actually feel to play

Certainly nothing like the mainline games

Well, the other ones

[sturdy flower]

i think it'll be fun

if i get it, it'll be on switch 2

[jade ocean]

I will admit that I also feel that it is weird calling it a mainline even though it literally is

[sturdy flower]

the graphics are definitely better

[jade ocean]

But I think that it being this different isn't necessarily a bad thing

[sturdy flower]

once it comes out i'll decide if i'm satisfied overall with it

if i am i'll get it

there are a bunch of factors that go into that

[jade ocean]

It's simpler with me, I'll buy the game, and if I like it, I like it

[sturdy flower]

nah i made that mistake with SV

[jade ocean]

Feels silly for me to simply judge a game based off what others are telling me

[sturdy flower]

i sold it for 20 bucks

so little but i just had to get rid of it

i fucking hated having it

[sturdy flower]

i wouldn't do that

i would watch gameplay too

[jade ocean]

Watching gameplay for ZA doesn't feel like it'd be enough for me

Seems like the sort of game where I need to know how it plays first hand to know if I hate it or not

With how different the combat is and shit

[sturdy flower]

i think that aspect will just grow on me

what i'd be looking for is some clear bullshit i don't like

[jade ocean]

Still find it weird how radically different SV felt like to me compared to everyone else because like I'm hearing about how performance issues will ruin the game and glitches will make it unplayable

And then I encounter 0 glitches

And have 0 performance issues

[sturdy flower]

the entire world flickered every 5 seconds

it was unbearable

[tepid flame]

Switch 2?

[jade ocean]

No, just the Switch 1

And like, not long after release either

[tepid flame]

Oh that's crazy

[jade ocean]

My copy is simply better frfr

[tepid flame]

I think you're just lucky lol

Like a few of the CP2077 launch players who keeps saying they never encountered bugs or glitches

[jade ocean]

I dont think it's my switch either

Because it does struggle running L:A at a good framerate

[tepid flame]

Yeah exactly you're just lucky lol

[jade ocean]

Simply get a copy of the game that's so GOATed that you think SV's a great Pokemon game I fucking guess

I have 0 clue what happened here but I'll take it

Area Zero is probably a lot less cool when your switch is trying not to implode on itself (and failing)

Speaking of the Switch 2 I'm not sure what I want to do when it comes to it

Because like

It's expensive as fuck

But also I feel like games will eventually start to only be on the Switch 2

So I'll eventually want to buy it anyways

So why not now, yknow what I mean?

[sturdy flower]

yeah i'll prolly sell my switch 1

i don't even have to buy the switch 2 versions, they're optional

i'd just play the regular version

online is 4 euros 1 months, 8 euros 3 months, 20 euros 12 months

that's honestly not too bad

i'd have the excuse to play MHRS online too so two birds with one stone

[shrewd hearth]

Idk y they made him mega evolution coloured

[rain silo]

I think it’s more to do with hypnotism and bright colors can be used to confuse predators

[forest egret]

It might be just playing into his hypnosis angle more. Irl cephalopods can kinda get nutty with it and it was once theorized they used colour to hypnotize prey (which I believe has since been disproven but remains as sort of a trope tool regarding them in pop culture)

[drowsy veldt]

i assume those are friends too

just like malamar?

[finite totem]

thanks nintendo for not disappointing my mega raichu and hoopa plot expectations

also on technical side, would only Kantonese raichu mega evolve

or can it work for alolan too?

[sturdy flower]

probably only kanto raichu

but we don't actually know

[spare roost]

idn't GMax meowth only work on kantonian meowth?

[lime void]

IDK about the DLC, but in the base game the only Meowth you could get that was capable of Gigantamax was Kantonian Meowth (though that Meowth was eventually exclusive)

[opal gull]

eventually exclusive?

[lime void]

event exclusive

Good lord auto correct

[sturdy flower]

my predictions for the new mega stones

i mean to say floatzel, not buizel

[jade ocean]

Literal most obvious Victreebel of all time in top right if I'm being honest

Which is why I think some of these other ones may also be megas that are already confirmed for base game

[sturdy flower]

you might be right

[sturdy flower]

but I don't like the implications of this

[jade ocean]

There's only like 4 out of that selection that I think could be megas from base game

[lime void]

The Galar starters aren’t getting megas. And I doubt they’d make separate stones for west and east Gastrodon

[jade ocean]

So it's still plenty of Megas that are completely unknown even from leaks

[sturdy flower]

how do you know the galar starters aren't getting megas

FUUUCK I MEANT TO PUT YANMEGA NOT FLYGON FUCK

i need to redo the whole image

fuck

[lime void]

Because they never give starters anything outside their home region, unless they become starters in a Legends game. The only exception to this is the Kanto starters (which I don’t approve of in the slightest)

Plus, the Galar starters already got G-max forms. If they’re giving new megas to starters outside of the Z-A and Kalos starters, they should either give it to the other Johto and Unova starters, or the Sinnoh starters

[severe pier]

||Mega Raichu X's ability might be levitate||

[copper crater]

Are abilities in the game even? I didn’t see them in demo footage so if that’s been confirmed elsewhere I would love to know

[tawdry flame]

No abilities judging by how it went with PLA

[jade ocean]

I'd imagine that they could still easily make it Electric/Flying or just float over ground moves by virtue of floating above the ground

[tawdry flame]

my tierlist (I guess) on the megas

[warm knot]

I actually like most of the ||starter|| megas

They don't change that much but they're fairly cool

[drowsy veldt]

Be honest, ||did your friend malamar tell you to make him s rank?||

[tawdry flame]

No

[drowsy veldt]

Just making sure he or she isn't cheating with hypnosis

[tawdry flame]

I agree

[lime void]

My friend Malamar would never hypnotize anyone. Stop slandering his good name

[drowsy veldt]

the cops recruited me for 30 min for his break.
i really don't want this cop role, but my 30 min is almost over.

malamar is fine from any law related things in five minutes from me.

[sturdy flower]

can you send the link to the tierlist

mega victreebel in S is still so insane to me

[tawdry flame]

||https://tiermaker.com/create/all-pokemon-legends-za-revealed-mega-evolutions-18637760||

[sturdy flower]

no S tiers just yet

[sturdy flower]

nah raichu Y is not that bad

def better than X

[robust wren]

It looks so fake

The two sets of ears looks so bad

[sturdy flower]

they do but they kinda grew on me

and the rest looks fine

[hazy knot]

i know my opinions are unpopular, i do not care

[robust wren]

I understand that a lot of people overuse this insult, but it genuinely looks AI generated. And I pretty much never say that about anything

[sturdy flower]

nah that's silly

X is absolutely worse

[sturdy flower]

insane list

[hazy knot]

mayhaps..

its genuine

[cloud shale]

my opinions on the starters:
delphox is awesome they cooked
chesnaught isn’t great but there wasn’t a lot to work with
greninja sucks and they should have just retconned ash greninja into the mega it’s not that complicated ffs

[hazy knot]

by the way, heres a list of all of the megas. a few things from the other list were swapped around a bit because that list was like relative and stuff

[lime void]

Here's mine

[warm knot]

Mega Greninja is kind of lame

It changes almost nothing but for some reason I kind of like it

[lime void]

Let me know if you want me to explain any of the rankings

[hazy knot]

solid, though maybe appreciate dragonite and victreebel for what they are

it’s fine if they’re garbage to you, just I’d like to see how you feel about the designs themselves

[warm knot]

Dragonite did kind of deserve a mega, and Victreebel has gotten nothing since it came out

As much as I don't like Kanto pandering they were pretty abandoned

[tawdry flame]

mega victrebell is so funny that I like it tbh

[warm knot]

I don't like either of the designs though

[lime void]

I'll appreciate them for what they once Gen 1 goes at least one game without getting any undeserved special treatment

[warm knot]

Hey in Paldea charizard didn't get the terra form it was supposed to

[lime void]

If you want to know how I feel about the designs themselves though, I'm pretty much neutral to Dragonite and think that Victreebel is both funny and works well

[tawdry flame]

|| can't wait to see reactions to mega starmie ||

[jade ocean]

No it didn't tbh

You look at Competitive Pokemon and Dnite's like

A top threat

It did not need a Mega whatsoever, it was not struggling at all

That's like giving a Mega to Rayquaza

Which they did do

[tired drum]

It's a top threat now but usually it'd be in a pickle

[jade ocean]

So I can't say it's unexpected

[jade ocean]

Dnite was great in Gen 8 as well

No "Oh Tera saved its ass" bullshit

[cloud shale]

it’s extremely lame

[tired drum]

Well not that specifically but it did have a struggle period

[sturdy flower]

giving a mega to dragonite makes way more sense than giving not one, but two to raichu

[jade ocean]

And even if it did find a way to fall to UU or something that'd still make it like the 3rd best Pseudo since it'd undoubtedly be quickly banned to UUBL

[cloud shale]

Greninja already had a special in battle transformation with a special ability that only activated through a strong bond with its trainer

like bro that’s literally what mega evolution is

[tired drum]

plus the raichu look so dumb

[jade ocean]

And be stronger than both Garchomp and Kommo-O

And it already is the 3rd best Pseudo behind Bax and Dpult

[cloud shale]

the retcon was right there and they just chose to give it a goofy shuriken helicopter instead

[sturdy flower]

i kinda like Y

X sucks though

[tired drum]

I like Y better for sure

[jade ocean]

I'd rather 1 Mega to Raichu over 1 Mega to Dnite

[sturdy flower]

i saw an edit of it with raichu colors though and it looks so much better

[jade ocean]

Problem is Raichu got 2 Megas

[cloud shale]

like it looks cool, because it’s greninja, but on principle it’s lame and the design doesn’t change much of anything

[sturdy flower]

let me find it

brb

[tired drum]

X is pure undistilled ass

[jade ocean]

And somehow both manage to pander to Pikachu

Like god forbid someone wants a proper Raichu mega

Noooo, Pikachu has to be involved somehow

Fucking hell

[tired drum]

I get how multiple megas are harkening back to prevos but this looks bad for raichu

[cloud shale]

Raichu would be cool for a mega if alolan Raichu didn’t already exist as one of the coolest regional forms (yes I believe this fight me)

[sturdy flower]

also has a little extra scruff.

[tired drum]

It's true

[sturdy flower]

it's soooo much better

[jade ocean]

Alolan Raichu feels more like a different Pokemon to me as somehow to plays Competitive

[sturdy flower]

which gives me hope for the shiny

[jade ocean]

And as someone who plays Competitive, god Raichu needs some help

[hazy knot]

as someone who actually likes raichu x this is so much better

[jade ocean]

And it can't be an evolution

Because of motherfucking Pichu

[tired drum]

Like the ears on X and I guess larger hands are the only raichu bits

[jade ocean]

What is it with baby Pokemon and being the 1st stages of competitively struggling Pokemon

[tired drum]

plus feet forgot they were different

[jade ocean]

Why do they fucking exist

Instead of an evolution to the Pokemon that really needs it

[tired drum]

for funnies idk

[cloud shale]

well, Clefairy

[jade ocean]

Ah yes Wigglytuff is such a menace to society

It definitely needs to be shackled with a baby

So that it can never evolve ever

[sturdy flower]

yeah

[jade ocean]

Yup, fucking Wigglytuff

[tired drum]

no it is you don't know

[sturdy flower]

the shiny will probably look like that

[jade ocean]

Who on paper checks Dragapult

[sturdy flower]

so that's good news

[jade ocean]

But then somehow manages to not have an amazing MU vs it despite that

[hazy knot]

Hooray!

[jade ocean]

Me when I have 2 fucking immunities to my opponent's STAB but it still isn't a top tier matchup

Actual worthless garbage stats and they gave it a baby

And it being in Gen 2 isn't an excuse

Wigglytuff's stats were worthless garbage back then too

[tired drum]

that's what we in the bizz call awesome game design

no

bad

[jade ocean]

Babies are literally only there to steal evo potential and be marketable plushies

And even then I'd rather buy so many Pokemon before the baby Pokemon

So even at their intended purpose they fail

[cloud shale]

hey I like Riolu dont be a hater

[tired drum]

Like it's fine for certain things, love bonsly

[jade ocean]

What an absolute fucking joke

I almost hate them as much as Flutter Mane

Almost

[hazy knot]

lucario wasn’t getting two evolutions anyways 😭

[tired drum]

My favourite part of baby mons is that you don't naturally find them anyway (in almost every scenario) and have to do specific condition breeding to get them

[cloud shale]

fair point

[jade ocean]

I hope Tornadus hits her with a Bleakwind Storm and messes up her stupid fucking hair

[hazy knot]

same thing with jynx

[jade ocean]

Who tf do you think you are fucking samson of nazareth with your hair=power bullshit?

Get yo ass outta here

[tired drum]

stupid flutter mane

[cloud shale]

I mean I do also like Elekid but actually Electivire is a great evolution so whatever on that one ig

[tired drum]

As a mismagius fan I am disgraced

[jade ocean]

Worst Paradox Pokemon, nay, worst Pokemon of all time

It's a wonder how I still rate the Gen 9 roster as highly as I do with such a terrible Pokemon on it

[cloud shale]

LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER quilladin exist

[jade ocean]

But I guess only having 1 terrible Pokemon instead of multiple terrible babies helps

[hazy knot]

what’s so bad about flutter mane?

[tired drum]

Primarina exist (I am a hater)

[cloud shale]

he’s a comp player

[jade ocean]

First of all, it's like

[cloud shale]

flutter mane is busted in comp

[jade ocean]

A massive piece of shit in competitive play

Actual bastard

[tired drum]

It's overwhelmingly minmaxxed

[jade ocean]

What the fuck is this minmaxed fucking spread

With that arguable top 1 type combo

Like get your ass outta here with this bullshit

[tired drum]

what the fuck

[jade ocean]

THIS WAS BETTER THAN ETERNATUS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME IN THE METAGAME

[tired drum]

evikl

*evil

[jade ocean]

WHO HAS LITERALLY 80% USAGE IN THE PREVIOUS GEN UBERS

WHAT THE FUCK

[cloud shale]

oh you’re talking solo

[jade ocean]

IT'S NO MAJOR BOX ART IT HAS 570 BSY

IT AIN'T EVEN A FUCKING LEGENDARY

[cloud shale]

I was gonna say isn’t eternatus mid

but that’s doubles

[jade ocean]

Next we have the design

[warm knot]

That's true, but a lot of other pseudo legendaries got megas while Dragonite, who has been around since gen 1 didn't

[jade ocean]

And like

[tired drum]

Plus it has an amazing type combo both offensively and defensively, with ALSO a good move spread

[jade ocean]

This is everything of what people hate on the Paradoxes dialed up to 999

[cloud shale]

they should have given us mega Dragapult and just added more little dreepys for it to shoot out and changed nothing else

[jade ocean]

Literally just the worst Paradox in terms of creativity

[cloud shale]

that would have been peak comedy

[jade ocean]

And it doesn't help that I'm not a massive fan of Misdreavus in the first place

AND WHY NOT MISMAGIUS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD

Oh and then there's also the part where somehow it's one of the more popular Paradoxes????

I see it rated up in the top half more often than not

[tired drum]

Misdreavus didn't get an evo til a later gen, like a couple other paradoxes

[hazy knot]

yeah like jigglypuff

[jade ocean]

HECK I SEE IT RATED ABOVE I R O N V A L I A N T MORE OFTEN THAN NOT

ARE YOU SHITTING ME????

[cloud shale]

I mean I think it looks cool 🤷 and I don’t play comp so I don’t have a reason to hate it from that pov

[tired drum]

that ones the odd one out

[jade ocean]

And then it also has a stupid fucking dex entry

That's not a pterosaur

That's not a pterosaur

[hazy knot]

sandy shocks

[lime void]

Jigglypuff got a preevolution, not an evolution

[jade ocean]

You want to know pterosaur?

Aerodactyl

That's a fucking pterosaur

DOES THIS LOOK LIKE AN AERODACTYL TO YOU???

And the worst part is, Flutter Mane's a queer icon

[tired drum]

My favourites are sandy shocks and brute bonnet, solely out of design

[cloud shale]

nahhhhhh the real queer icon is iron valiant we all know

the non binary pokemon

[jade ocean]

So there's a good chance

People will just assume

[cloud shale]

real queers know

[jade ocean]

You're being a dick because it's a queer icon

[tired drum]

Plus they're not busted so bonus points

[lime void]

TBF, it’s the Pokédex that says that, and there’s plenty of examples of it being unreliable

[jade ocean]

But I think I've provided a shitload of proper examples of why to hate this fucker

Instead if "hurr durr I'm a piece of shit"

[tired drum]

Real examples

[tired drum]

That's me and primarina lol

[jade ocean]

Fuck this Pokemon

[tired drum]

I just don't like it at all

I think it's reasonable for me to despise stuff like Palafin, Gholdengo, and Zeraora

[jade ocean]

And I know that Flutter Mane isn't a sentient being and all

But if she was

She'd definitely use being a lesbian as a defense for all the atrocities she commits

[cloud shale]

I think with Pokemon the jury’s out actually

[jade ocean]

And that's annoying

[tired drum]

omg I knew someone like that

[sturdy flower]

i loooove flutter mane

prob my fav paradox

iron valiant is literally the only good future paradox

[tired drum]

She attacked a guy in a bar then when he defended himself she took him to court for a hate attack on a minority while pretending to be lgbtq+

[jade ocean]

(Over exaggerating shit to be dramatic aside though yeah no I really hate Flutter Mane)

[cloud shale]

wait which atrocities? It’s not flutter manes fault that big Pikachu gave it good stats, good typing, and that comp players are using it to be good team builders

[tired drum]

Agree

[sturdy flower]

WHAT

flutter mane is awesome

[jade ocean]

Refer to all my complaints

[cloud shale]

not if you’re a competitive player

[jade ocean]

Starting from here

[cloud shale]

and have to deal with it on whatever percent of teams (idk it’s a lot)

[sturdy flower]

alright it's all Competitive

great

[jade ocean]

Idk I feel like she's paying Mega Malamar to mind control people into falling for her deceitful lies

[jade ocean]

Not all Competitive

Definitely part of it

But I hate it beyond even that

[cloud shale]

my friend Malamar would never do that Latios

[sturdy flower]

well the part of it not being a pterosaur is easily explained

[cloud shale]

do not assume my friend Malamar would sink so low as to being bribed

[tired drum]

I'm definitely a person to like weaker mons over evil powerhouses

[sturdy flower]

it's a paradox, they make no sense, they were made by the "time machine"

[jade ocean]

True...

[cloud shale]

flareon 😢

[sturdy flower]

they're not real pokemon, they come from the imagination of people

[jade ocean]

Maybe she bribed Beheeyem instead or something

Idk

[tired drum]

Jolteon is my favourite eevee

[cloud shale]

yeah Beheeyem would definitely pull that

[tired drum]

flareon is awesome though

[sturdy flower]

if i like it, i like it

simple as

[sturdy flower]

sylveon's my fav

[cloud shale]

it’s the most huggable Pokemon

[jade ocean]

Point is I get the vibe that she's definitely pulling some strings in the background to trick people into believing the lies

[sturdy flower]

that's entirely an headcanon

[tired drum]

Yea theres some big mons that I just like for other reasons like grimmsnarl and dragapult are really cool and I've used them in playthrough

[cloud shale]

it’s like a temperature adjustable body pillow except its also a friendly pet that will make silly noises at you and goof around and whatever

[jade ocean]

(Yeah no at this point I'm saying stuff for the bit now)

[cloud shale]

a pet flareon would fix all my emotional problems

[jade ocean]

(This is a non serious part to the complaint)

[sturdy flower]

i like basically all the past paradoxes honestly

[tired drum]

I mean my favourite mon is Darmanitan how nonmeta can I get lol

[sturdy flower]

the one i like the least is brute bonnet

[jade ocean]

But yeah no, something fishy is going on

Because I met Ferrothorn the other day but he showed no signs of homophobic behaviour

[tired drum]

(regular fire one, preferably with zen mode)

[sturdy flower]

sandy shocks is so cool, slither wing is awesome and so is flutter mane

scream tail is fine

the beast trio is very very cool too

[cloud shale]

oh yeah and with mega Malamar now my pokemon dream team has two Megas and a GMax it’s amazing

[tired drum]

absolutely agree with first two

[jade ocean]

Not saying Flutter Mane spread lies about Ferrothorn's stance on LGBT

But it is a possibility

[cloud shale]

bro you are extremely committed to this bit damn

[jade ocean]

(It's fun)

[sturdy flower]

sandy shocks is one of my fav gen9 designs

but my fav from gen9 will always be tinkaton

[cloud shale]

as a resident queer I will say I am okay with Ferrothorn he seems like a chill guy

[sturdy flower]

also happens to be my fav non legendary

[cloud shale]

don’t worry Latios it’s all good over here

[jade ocean]

I dont have much of an issue with the other Paradoxes, Past or Future

Great Tusk seems like a very chill guy, even

[cloud shale]

I have a problem with the beast trio, but especially Gouging Fire

like what is bro doing

[jade ocean]

Helped me clear a bunch of pebbles Gliscor left on my doorstep the other day

[tired drum]

just found this old thing I did making teams of my top 6 from each region, might've changed mildly since then but still holds up

[cloud shale]

bro likes BOTH of the funny buildings who let him cook

[finite totem]

I think you like fuecoco line

[tired drum]

It's in order too

[tired drum]

possibly

[cloud shale]

no Crobat tho 0/10 team building honestly

[tired drum]

I looooove all three of them though I think the crocalor hate is very unwarranted

[jade ocean]

I feel like the most viable team here would be the Gen 3 one, provided you actually ran it in Gen 3 OU

[tired drum]

I do really like crobat but the others ended up coming first

[cloud shale]

Wobbufett over Crobat is an insane take

[jade ocean]

Idk what this could possibly entail

But it's cool

[tired drum]

We have history

[cloud shale]

you are not allowed into my kitchen

at least

not the Johto one

[tired drum]

Where did I cook best???

[cloud shale]

have at the Alola kitchen though that’s some crazy cooking you’ve got there

[tired drum]

YESSS

bug bug bug bug bug

[jade ocean]

Gen 7's roster of bugs is the only one in my mind that can challenge Gen 5's

[cloud shale]

like you’re telling me that not only do you like both funny buildings but you’re also vibing with Golisopod? immense win my brother

[jade ocean]

They both have very GOATed bugs

[tired drum]

Bug is my fav after all

[cloud shale]

although bit of an L for not having AWak or AhChu

[tired drum]

Galvantula does end up being my #1 bug

[jade ocean]

I prefer Joltik over Galvantula because it smol (not to say I don't like Galvantula, I'm pretty sure it's also in my S tier)

[tired drum]

if anything it would've been Amuk for me cause it was on my story team and I had lots of fun with it

[finite totem]

Shout out to vikavolt tbh

[cloud shale]

fair enough

I’ve used all three

[tired drum]

I gotta find my fav of all types/regions thing

[jade ocean]

Bug is probably my favourite type too tbh

[cloud shale]

actually I used 4 regional variants for most of the game during my Sun playthrough

[jade ocean]

Which kinda sucks because holy shit is the Bug type bad

2nd favourite type?

Psychic

[cloud shale]

Ninetales, Raichu, Muk, and Marowak

[jade ocean]

Another horrid type

(Competitively speaking)

You hate to see it

[cloud shale]

my favorite type is probably dark but I don’t know that I can say that with confidence

I just have favorite pokemon really, not favor towards any one type

[jade ocean]

I dont favour types too much either, when I say my favourite type is Bug I'm basically just saying I like bugs

Bugs are cool

Bugs are overhated IRL tbh

[cloud shale]

ive taken four bugs to the e4

Heracross in HeartGold, Scolipede in Black (which got replaced by Volcarona and I beat the E4 again), and Ribombee in Ultra Sun

[tired drum]

this is a bit outdated but I did this a while back

[warm knot]

Did you draw this?

[tired drum]

Yea

[warm knot]

That's impressive

[tired drum]

on my phone

[cloud shale]

high quality oof

[jade ocean]

It's hilarious how Misdreavus and Kingdra are the only options of their categories

[warm knot]

Wowza

[tired drum]

true

[cloud shale]

liking Dragonite more than Dragonair is not based though

[tired drum]

I used it a lot in gen 7 during those 4 way npc battle things

[jade ocean]

Tbh I don't like this format since it can easily leave out Pokemon I do like simply because they can't compete with the other Pokemon I like

[tired drum]

yea

[cloud shale]

did you want to have separate pokemon in each slot, or do you just like ceruledge better as a ghost but skeledirge better as a fire type

[tired drum]

I like to have a different in each slot for variety's sake

[cloud shale]

cool

[tired drum]

but ceruledge is cool

[jade ocean]

Discord is gonna make this tierlist near unreadable lmfao

But yes, this is a tierlist of every Pokemon ever

Yes, it is ordered within each tier

Yes, it took me FOREVER

[tired drum]

very cool top spots

[jade ocean]

Tbh it already is unreadable if you don't zoom it lmao

[tired drum]

I'm no fan of ogerpon but I respect it because goober

[jade ocean]

Goober 👍

[cloud shale]

0/10 quilladin not in the bottom tier

[jade ocean]

Until very recently Latios was tied with Lunala but then I came to the realisation that nostalgia can't carry Latios past Lunala anymore

Which felt a bit sad in a way

But it is what it is

[tired drum]

Found the newer one I'll make a new drawing out of eventually

[jade ocean]

Just felt more right to have Lunala be Number 1 uncontested than to have it and Latios be tied

[cloud shale]

the favorite pokeball category is so unfair because it’s basically always Beast Dusk or Quick

and sometimes one of the main 4

[jade ocean]

Favourite Pokemon Darmanitan is unfathomably based actually

[tired drum]

hat or luxury ball for me

*that

[jade ocean]

DarmaniGOAT

NUKE ALL THOSE WATER TYPES

[cloud shale]

I have gone broke buying Quick balls in PIF more than I’d like to admit

[jade ocean]

WHAT THE FUCK IS A RESIST 🗣️

[tired drum]

lol not being a meta guy but xerneas is fav box legend

[cloud shale]

but when you’re building a living dex you gotta do what you gotta do

[tired drum]

I had it in a randomizer and it was really funyy

[jade ocean]

252+ Atk Choice Band Sheer Force Darmanitan Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Alomomola in Sun: 276-324 (51.6 - 60.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[tired drum]

gaming

[jade ocean]

The simplicity of click button and blow shit up is nice

[cloud shale]

the bacon bird clears the gay deer tbh

[jade ocean]

Unless I'm facing it

Then I am fearing for my life

There's this double battle in B2W2 with an Excadrill and Darmanitan

Scared the absolute shit out of me

[cloud shale]

me when I bring a flash fire mon to a Darmanitan 1v1

[tired drum]

My favourite built team, managed to make zen mode into a surprise nuke

[jade ocean]

Also Darmanitan is a ball shaped monke

Which is peak

[tired drum]

peak monke

[jade ocean]

The best Fire primeate, don't @ me

[tired drum]

[jade ocean]

Also my brain is so Pokemon coded I spelt primate like primeape

[tired drum]

real

I didn't even think twice at the spelling

[cloud shale]

I mean what you think I was going to counter with Simisear

oh right Infernape

LMAO

[tired drum]

lol

I like torterra anyway

[jade ocean]

The fact that you momentarily forgot about Infernape is concrete evidence Darmanitan is better

[cloud shale]

yeah big Empoleon guy over here

[jade ocean]

Not as in opinion better objectively better

[tired drum]

True

[jade ocean]

(This is a joke. I shouldn't need to say this, but I do)

(If you aren't overtly dramatic like I was with the Flutter Mane segment, someone will take you seriously no matter what)

[tired drum]

(Latios isn't joking )

[cloud shale]

idk man if you want to take me seriously when I joke I just take it as encouragement to commit further to the bit

but maybe that’s just me

[tired drum]

I do that when people are being toxic in games

I will become the bit

[jade ocean]

It's been a while since I've played a game where I can actually see mfs get toxic, because it isn't fun to start dying of bad poison when you aren't even playing a stall game

[tired drum]

lol

I play hero shooters

plus sometimes league but only if my friend asks really nicely

[jade ocean]

Tbh people barely get toxic on Showdown

At most they get salty about getting unlucky

But it's been ages since I've seen actual toxicity there

The reason why it feels like some people have the opposite view is probably all those scripted Temp6t videos

[tired drum]

Dude the unluck I have is potent, I do consistent battles against a friend where we shiny hunt our teams and then double battle with whatever we could find

sometimes we add challenges to how the shiny hunt goes too

[jade ocean]

Whenever a day begins, an invisible coin is flipped determining whether I will lose to one in a millions or luck out in the most absurd chain of events

Usually involving RandBats

[tired drum]

real

[jade ocean]

Like today I just beat a Specs Focus Blast Gengar with Dudunsparce because it kept getting fully paralysed by Glare and missing

I had no right winning that

[tired drum]

I once randbats'd a friend and he miraculously got several legends and I swept him with a little maractus

[jade ocean]

But tbf Gengar kinda just

Beat 5/6 of my team

So yknow what luck is kinda warranted there

[jade ocean]

RandBats makes Pokemon like Plusle and Chimecho extremely terrifying forces of nature

But I don't think I've heard of Maractus doing the same

[tired drum]

Yea it was so funny

have randomly stumbled into doing this lol

[sturdy flower]

what in the goddamn is this

[tired drum]

idk live voting

[jade ocean]

Why is Butterfree so high

[tired drum]

I like it

[jade ocean]

And even higher than Gmax Butterfree

I get that nostalgia's one crazy bitch

But this is a bit far isn't it

[tired drum]

I wasn't around for gen one

[jade ocean]

I didn't watch that one anime episode where Ash's Butterfree leaves to go mate with a Butterfree of the same gender (LGBT+ rights)

[tired drum]

I did like once

[jade ocean]

(No seriously apparently based on gender differences both butterfree are the same gender)

So to me all Butterfree is is a generic butterfly Pokemon

That said I used Venomoth in a mono moth team

And it was kinda like

Unironically my 2nd best Pokemon

[tired drum]

I've used butterfree and beedrill a ton in early playthroughs of several games, and bug mons are the best

[jade ocean]

Well, 3rd

Now that I think about it

Actually, probably closer to 4th...

[tired drum]

lol

[jade ocean]

But it had hype moments and aura

[warm knot]

🤓 In the "I choose You" movie the pink butterfree was female 🤓

[jade ocean]

And that's clearly what matters the most

So nvm it was number 1

[warm knot]

It's weird they never changed Butterfree's shiny to be pink like in the anime

[jade ocean]

Damn, retconned out of existence

[warm knot]

History will remember the butterfrees as great friends

[jade ocean]

No more LGBT+ representation

[warm knot]

They were roomates

They lived with eachother everyday and never married

[jade ocean]

It's so over

[tired drum]

awesome Achu moment

[jade ocean]

LET'S FUCKING GO PIKACHU AND GMAX PIKACHU LOW DOWN

[tired drum]

YEAAAAAA

[jade ocean]

YOU LOVE TO SEE IT

[tired drum]

RAICHU GAMING

[jade ocean]

Beedrill that high is kinda wack

Above Mega Bee???

[tired drum]

Yea

[warm knot]

Still crazy that Pikachu got a gmax but raichu didn't

They would've given pikachu both megas if they could

[jade ocean]

These live voters perplex me

[tired drum]

mega bee is sick

Well these are my votes lol

[jade ocean]

Well you perplex me too then

Why Beedrill over Mega Bee?

That's my main question tbh

[tired drum]

Honestly just a higher usage case

[jade ocean]

The others I can kinda see

[tired drum]

Most gimmick forms were used less and stick in my head less

[jade ocean]

I see

[white gorge]

Mega Roserade

[jade ocean]

If Mega Roserade is ever revealed you will be treated as a prophet

[white gorge]

It's what we the players deserve

[sturdy flower]

should have moved beedril up one

[lime void]

You put the Charizards in the wrong spot by accident

[sturdy flower]

no they're in the right spot

I'm willing to move X down one

[white gorge]

Good ranking but I'd lower Mega Halucha and Raise up Mega Sharpedo and Mega Galade

[sturdy flower]

that's it

[lime void]

No, they’re both in very good. They should both be in same tier as Victreebel if not one below

[sturdy flower]

mega gallade and especially sharpedo feel very cluttered

[sturdy flower]

you're out of your mind

[lime void]

No, I’m correct

[white gorge]

You could easily say the same thing about mega Greninja or mega Malamar though?

[sturdy flower]

charizard y is literally charizard but cooler

what's not to like about it

[void brook]

Tier lists are just meant to be the person's opinions on the things in the tier list, so don't try to change someone's tier list.

[lime void]

That’s an very low bar

[sturdy flower]

alright man

[white gorge]

I just said what I would have changed, not saying the opinion is bad

[sturdy flower]

at least no one has anything against my top tier

[white gorge]

I like mega mawile very good mega

[jade ocean]

Mega Ray is a very safe top tier pick

It'd be harder to find someone who didn't like it

[tired drum]

wait I'll get out my mega opinions rq

[jade ocean]

... Hey, who here doesn't like Mega Ray?

[tired drum]

me other than design

[white gorge]

I like it but I don't think its S tier

[tired drum]

design is cool but like otherwise ew

[white gorge]

Like A-B tier

[jade ocean]

Mega Ray is hilariously broken but at least it's a Mega of a Box Art Legendary

And not some random fucking piece of shit

[sturdy flower]

@white gorge holy fuck Versa Nova pfp??

[jade ocean]

It being broken was probably expected, though not to this absurd degree

Not quite uncontested in its brokenness

[white gorge]

Versa was my favorite boss in stories even though it almost made me rage quit

[jade ocean]

But it certainly is broken as hell

[wooden lion]

Comp players in 2014.

[sturdy flower]

I'm realizing that i never finished MHS1

[jade ocean]

cough cough Gen 9 Calyrex

[sturdy flower]

only 2

[sturdy flower]

what about the rest

[jade ocean]

Monster Hunter Stories 1?

[sturdy flower]

yep

[white gorge]

1 was much harder than 2 tbf

[sturdy flower]

they're making MHS3, i gotta get it

[jade ocean]

Idk I don't really hate any of the Megas

[sturdy flower]

it looks incredible so far

[jade ocean]

I do dislike the Lati Twin Megas though

[wooden lion]

It’s your opinion my guy

[sturdy flower]

and there are Rise AND Wilds monsters

[tired drum]

while I go through mega tierlist enjoy this image I made some time ago for bestie's bday

[jade ocean]

Not only do they look less cool but they're also like

Identical apart from eye colour

[sturdy flower]

and I'm asking for yours

[jade ocean]

Which is stupid

[sturdy flower]

my guy

[sturdy flower]

got stuck at zinogre I'm pretty sure

[jade ocean]

Like if they weren't both purple then I'd probably put them in like idk B tier or something

Instead I'm putting them in D tier

[sturdy flower]

that's a big jump

[white gorge]

Which one

The normal one or the harder one

[wooden lion]

I can’t really rank the megas atm. I can probably make a tier list tomorrow if i remember

[sturdy flower]

i honestly don't remember, i haven't played in a trillion years

[white gorge]

My favorite monstie was Royal Ludroth and Lagiacrus

[jade ocean]

I can't be bothered to make a seperate list, so go dig in this one for whatever mega you want to find

And feel free to insult my opinions on other fronts

(The ZA megas aren't here and I'm too lazy to add them rn)

[white gorge]

Ogerpon

[jade ocean]

I found Pecharunt guys!

[tired drum]

how cool am I

[tired drum]

lol

[jade ocean]

Oh shit a Mega Ray placement that's like

Actually low

[white gorge]

There are no wrong opinions:
Cozmalamar: nah I'd win

[tired drum]

Yes

[jade ocean]

It's like a shiny Pokemon

Anyways is the reasoning just the balancing mess Mega Ray is?

[tired drum]

mostly

[jade ocean]

Fair enough

[tired drum]

I never used it but the design is pretty cool

[white gorge]

Oh I thought these were only based on their design

[tired drum]

All factors thought of

[jade ocean]

Flutter Mane wishes that my tierlists were only based on design

Then it'd only be a low C tier

[white gorge]

If it was purely design you're all wrong

[jade ocean]

Maybe a D tier

[tired drum]

no

[white gorge]

They solo

[jade ocean]

But nope! Eat shit, Flutter Mane

[cyan hawk]

Mega greninja looks like hidden phantom from megaman zero

[jade ocean]

Mega Greninja is an aurafarmer

I'll let you decide if this is a good or bad thing

[tired drum]

I don't like kanghaskan

[white gorge]

You dont like joy

[cyan hawk]

It's better than ash greninja imo

[jade ocean]

I kinda agree

Like a lot actually

[tired drum]

Me too

[tired drum]

https://tenor.com/view/superpower-pokemon-gif-13695331351953187514

[jade ocean]

I've seen people complain that it's hanging upside down from the massive water shuriken surfboard but those people have no joy and whimsy

[white gorge]

Ugly ahh

Bottom ten pokemon of all time

[tired drum]

#1 pokemon of all time

[jade ocean]

252 Atk Choice Band Sheer Force Darmanitan Flare Blitz vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def You in Sun: 2092-2464 (546.2 - 643.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[white gorge]

Still ugly

[sturdy flower]

fucking hell i almost wanted to try getting shiny mega gardevoir on USUM but it's hellish

[white gorge]

And also I use Kyogre

[sturdy flower]

it's not worth it, it'd be way easier to mod my 2ds or emulate the game

[white gorge]

So get hard counter shut down loser

[sturdy flower]

and fuck with it

[wooden lion]

So literally the main focus of the mega lol. I like it cus it delves into the ninja aspect more while keeping phrog parts

[sturdy flower]

if i could just trade goddammit

[jade ocean]

What if I sacrifice my Torkoal to the black abyss and watch as it gets claimed in Kyogre's maw?

252 Atk Choice Band Sheer Force Darmanitan Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Kyogre in Sun: 328-387 (96.1 - 113.4%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
What then?

[sturdy flower]

even before they shut down the servers they were already shit

[white gorge]

Then I'll switch out

[sturdy flower]

overrun by hackers, specifically one guy that always asked for snivy

[jade ocean]

Damn, looks like you forced my hand

It's time for my ultimate technique!

[sturdy flower]

half the trades were just snivy

[jade ocean]

Setting the format to UU!

[tired drum]

Well yea darm loses out to kyogre but that doesn't make it not the most awesome pokemon ever

[white gorge]

It's still ugly as hell

[cyan hawk]

I'm bit disappointed with others but mega starters are awesome

[tired drum]

It's super cool 😎

[white gorge]

It's about as nasty as it's pre-evo Pokedex entry

[jade ocean]

I'm satisfied with the mega starters

[white gorge]

Which is to say it makes me want to vomit

[jade ocean]

By satisfied I mean I actually really like them

[white gorge]

Mega Victreebell

[tired drum]

coal shit is fine

[sturdy flower]

same

[wooden lion]

The only mega starter I don’t like is Delphox

[jade ocean]

I read that as "Coal shit is fire" and was like "I mean yeah"

[tired drum]

Yea

[wooden lion]

It just gets longer fur really plus some floating wands on fire

[cyan hawk]

He got mega blaziken treatment, same design different pants

[jade ocean]

Hmm... Espeon and Vaporeon feel like they take more inspiration from cats than other mammals

[wooden lion]

Chesnaught is my favorite (surprisingly reversed as Delphox is my favorite Kalos starter And Chesnaught is my least favorite)

[jade ocean]

But what about the other eeveelutions?

[white gorge]

Mega Mega Meganium when

[jade ocean]

How many eeveelutions are canids and how many are felids?

[wooden lion]

Jackal for Umbreon

[tired drum]

Chesnaught has always been a favourite and this new design just sells it so hard

So cool

[cyan hawk]

Sylveon is rabbit
Flareon is fox

[jade ocean]

Don't ask why I'm bringing this up out of nowhere I just like thinking about random shit

[wooden lion]

Yeah I agree

[jade ocean]

What is Leafeon?

I've seen some people say that it's a cat

[cyan hawk]

Plant

[jade ocean]

But as a cat enthusiast, I don't see it

[tired drum]

Dude if darmanitan got in this game I'd be making like a sprite a day I couldn't be stopped

[drowsy veldt]

More of a plant fox

[jade ocean]

Is Vaporeon a fish cat or a cat fish

[drowsy veldt]

Both?

[jade ocean]

Which takes priority

[tired drum]

fish cat

[void brook]

I doubt that Sylveon is a rabbit since it doesn't look like a rabbit to me.

[cyan hawk]

i love Leafeon because it's best possible pet, you don't need to worry about its food or cleaning its shit

[drowsy veldt]

Vaporeon can melt in water, meaning in water it can be anything

[tired drum]

Already made these (Ignore that Vanilluxe and Araquanid aren't in either)

[white gorge]

Not even my goat Cofagrigus can save it...

[cyan hawk]

Very cool :0

[jade ocean]

Galarian Darmanitan's looking a bit different

[drowsy veldt]

Fish tank full of water with nothing in it? Wrong!
(Vaporeon pops out)

[jade ocean]

Appletun and Flapple got done dirty

[white gorge]

Appletun mega

[jade ocean]

First they get "unique" Gmax forms that really don't capitalise on their unique traits at all

Because it's meant to fit both

Then Dipplin is made

[white gorge]

I wonder if in ZA we'll finally see the guts melting out when we abuse mega evolution

[jade ocean]

And in the same generation it gets Hydrapple

[tired drum]

lol I love the whole applin line but those g-maxes are awful

[jade ocean]

While Flapple and Appletun get jack shit

[cyan hawk]

Because no evol?

[lime void]

Hyderapple is Gen 9

[jade ocean]

Same generation referring to Dipplin

[sturdy flower]

https://pokedle.com/image-zoom

have fun

[lime void]

Ah, missed that part, my bad

[sturdy flower]

try it out, you gotta guess the pokemon from a very up close shot

[tired drum]

ooo sounds cool

[sturdy flower]

sadly it's not infinite

[white gorge]

I wish we could get Appletun in IF...

[sturdy flower]

found another on

https://dextrio.app/

it has a backlog of 500+ days

[tired drum]

Found some dtan fusion sketches idk

[tired drum]

oh yeaaaaaa

Thinking of doing a quiz for some friends where I take like 4 random pokemon and change 1 or more details then get them to guess who's wrong

like changing this pattern to pants

[indigo mango]

that seems kinda obvious

[tired drum]

Yea that one is it was the first one I made

[cyan hawk]

Drowzee

[indigo mango]

could color in its cheek orbs

[tired drum]

That's a good idea yea

[sturdy flower]

wait you got the older one

i got a different mon

[tired drum]

oh well

uh I'll do the now one

or maybe it's time zone

I'm from canada

[sturdy flower]

could be

[tired drum]

It says there'll be a new one in 50 minutes

[stark skiff]

Mega Raichu Y is a jackalope

[drowsy veldt]

Meaning it's not real
-# jk

[tawdry flame]

~~ well it comes from a mega dimension so~~

[indigo mango]

actually its a Y

[lime void]

If only…

[sturdy flower]

mega Raichu Y is literally the only decent one of the two

if they merged the two pairs of ears into one it'd be perfect

[cunning sierra]

So... my friend did a closer look at the Z-A trailer and saw this

This better not be a troll on Game Freak's part bro

[hazy knot]

i still cant see it 😭

[cunning sierra]

one sec

[cunning sierra]

||Flygon||

just for side by side

[hazy knot]

wait what why am i actually seeing it now

[cunning sierra]

My friend has better eyes than I. I checked the trailer twice and didn't see jack

(Now if Swalot is alongside those other Mega Stones, I will be so happy)

[warm knot]

looks like a sardine

[tawdry flame]

|| mega flygon locked behind post-game dlc 🥀 ||

[cunning sierra]

To those who can't see it

I found another shot where you can see it too

[warm knot]

Could you imagine lmao

[warm knot]

Oh now I see it

It's a bit of a stretch

[cunning sierra]

Second shot I saw it in

[indigo mango]

https://tenor.com/view/ken-jeong-cant-see-this-funny-gif-14446155

[warm knot]

They definitely would not put this effort into hiding a small teaser

But I appreciate your optimism

[cunning sierra]

I know, it's hard to see

even I'm shocked I saw it

[young arch]

looks like a grass hopper🥀

[cunning sierra]

I hate that I see it

If that was the design, that'd be goofy as hell, but I'd love it

(Might need to do a mockup of that)

[hazy knot]

[robust wren]

I'm getting major "Rayman in the crystals on Battlefield" vibes from this

[noble ice]

So what are your guises thoughts on the Kalos starters getting Megas, but you can only get them from online battles?

[storm tinsel]

I think that's awful

[finite totem]

Also will trade evos remain same or replaced by items like Arceus?

[shrewd hearth]

It's dogshit that whole thing basically told us they made us a big pie but cut half of it and is bought separately

[forest egret]

Announcing DLCs and Subscription-only content right before the game releases is so shit

[tawdry flame]

It gets rid of a lot of hype

[cloud shale]

i'm not gonna play the game anyway (no switch) and i despise nintendo already so... i don't really care tbh

[forest egret]

I also wasn't going to play the game anyway. I'm not some sort of supreme nintendo hater or anything but I'm really mostly just following along with this franchise to see new pokemon designs rather than play the games

[robust wren]

Even as someone who doesn't hate competitive Pokemon, it's complete BS. Mega Kalos starters is something people have been asking for for over a decade now, and locking it behind online is trash.

I imagine this is just going to create a whole new type of online bot that deliberately throws online matches so everyone else gets free ELO

[noble ice]

And if this Nintendo were talking about, that online subscription is not going to be cheap

[storm tinsel]

I quit official pokemon games at Sword and Shield and decided I'd never get another one until the quality and care was increased... I honestly don't think I'll ever buy another pokemon game

[latent owl]

I could imagine that every pokemon has a mega in the mega dimension

[storm tinsel]

Probably won't buy another Nintendo game either to be honest, not because of a lack of quality and more because of a steady increase of scummy decisions and Switch 2 plus the newest games just costing way too much

[brazen jetty]

mega pikachu y be like

[storm tinsel]

YEAH LOL

[brazen jetty]

I said pikachu again
you know its not a good mega raichu if I accidentally keep saying mega pikachu 😭

[latent owl]

mega mewtwo and mega mew

I think they tried to do that but since raichu looks so similar to pikachu and is also pikachu evolution they made the body type of pikachu

[vernal anchor]

the introduction of mega Victreebel reminds me of 2023 when the most valuable fast food brand released a very specific shake to the public

[civic cave]

some players (like me) don't plan to buy switch online so it's just another paywall
i think they can still do this, but they need to give the mega stones to other players after a while
so online battlers can have early access to these megas and others don't miss anything

[sturdy flower]

exactly what i was thinking

they said the seasons will rotate, so you'll have multiple chances to get them

but it also says they can't be obtained in game normally

so either competitive is the only way, or they do a distribution for them months after release

[sturdy flower]

HEX MANIAC

also alleged DLC mega leaks

[storm tinsel]

Huh, very interesting if true

||The idea of them giving Dudunsparce a mega just to make it even longer is very funny auifnhuiahfiuaeh||

[wooden lion]

You should probs spoiler cus leaks

[storm tinsel]

Oh my bad forgot

[tough wyvern]

I still think locking the Mega stones is a bad idea.

But I was wondering; didn't anyone think the Ranked Battles were the 4-player deathmatches and not the traditional battle style?

[storm tinsel]

Are you talking about Alola's special matches with the masked royale?

[storm bone]

what if the dlc give us mega typhlosion and mega samurott + serperior

[severe pier]

||Mega Dudunsparce 👏 😭||

[tough wyvern]

No, the ZA battles. They are 4-player matches

[sturdy flower]

yeah that's honestly the least believable one

because I'd hate it, not because they wouldn't do it

[tough wyvern]

https://youtu.be/Y30vuKRtYPw?si=e1vBoAYK5D6UQsI0

[storm tinsel]

Oh fascinating

[tough wyvern]

I'm just curious how many ppl saw the trailer above hahaha. Not that it would ease your thoughts or anything tho

[kindred fiber]

I thought all of the megas got leaked a while aho

I forget the whole list but I know scrafty gets one

||Not the image I remember but with what's been shown, the description leaks have been on point||

[cunning sierra]

cool

would've been nice if that was spoiled...

[spare roost]

spoiler it please

[sturdy flower]

yeah. the base game ones

this is the DLC

[drowsy veldt]

||Mega chandelure would steal the city's souls while mega frolass freezes everyone||

[spare roost]

i meant the image

[drowsy veldt]

I can't cover the image.

Still tho, I don't think it is wise to give soul stealers a mega.

[kindred fiber]

I just deleted it cause I forget how to spoiler tag on mobile

[lime void]

THE LEAKS AREN’T OFFICIAL. Stop trusting and sharing the leaks

[kindred fiber]

I mean the dragonite victreebell mega starters and malamar leaks turned out to be exactly what was shared

[lime void]

That doesn’t mean the leaks are 100% accurate. And even if you personally believe them, sharing them will either
A. Generate false expectations or
B. Spoil people

[drowsy veldt]

Can confirm they aren't 100% accurate.
Mega malamar didn't look like the leak

[gray canopy]

Is what I’ve heard true where you have to climb ranked leaderboards to get the new mega starters

[latent owl]

my form is real

I can see hoopa mega

[sturdy flower]

rename it to SPOILER_whatever

[sturdy flower]

what are you talking about, the leaks are absolutely true

but of course they're not official, that's how leaks work

[latent owl]

he goes like this

and spins

infinite shaped dudunsparce

[sturdy flower]

see now that would be cool as fuck

even if it just goes in a circle

[latent owl]

ouroboros

[sturdy flower]

but i don't expect them to make it cool

[latent owl]

infinite ouroboros

[sturdy flower]

it'll be another "funny goofy" mega

assuming the leak is real

[sturdy flower]

yeah that just seems obvious tbh

[latent owl]

still could do that pose

if it becomes long

[lime void]

The leaks not being official means that they’re not guaranteed to be true, and should never be treated as such

[sturdy flower]

they pretty much are

one can be a coincidence, but 5 were correct

plus in every single trailer you see almost exclusively leaked mons

along with the ones that can already megaevolve

[latent owl]

||if dudunsparce stone exists||

||I hope it's very hard to find||

||to obtain||

||a longer dunsparce||

[wooden lion]

You should probs spoiler this cus leak

[storm tinsel]

||If were talking about this one, yeah it seems so accurate so far with very minor design differences that I feel it just is all the megas in the base game||

[wooden lion]

||Nah its the dlc leaks||

[latent owl]

||first mega to get gender difference||

[sturdy flower]

most of these mockups ARE inaccurate, simply because they differ ffrom person to person and they don't even always follow the description

but the descriptions ARE real and accurate even if sometimes slightly limited

[storm tinsel]

Where are the descriptions?

[sturdy flower]

for example, ||the description didn'say that greninja's shuriken has six points||

so everyone ||drew it with four||

[sturdy flower]

Austin made a video on them

or you can go to PokeOS

even though it also has some mockups that i really dislike

[spare roost]

watch the next mega they reveal are ||clefable and starmie||

and then leave the rest of them for release

so everyone entesr the game complaining about only gen 1 megas, and then bam ||mega excadrill mows them down||

[plain wharf]

So far the common pattern in rumored fan art to actual designs is all the real ones are way more exaggerated

[plain wharf]

the Kalos trailer was the final one

[spare roost]

with 3 weeks to go

i def think they're gonna do at least one more before release

or it shows up in the release trailer itself

[drowsy veldt]

||the mega starmie better look better than that leak. It just reminds me of patrick more than a pokemon...||

[storm tinsel]

||I want to see what mega starmie looks like so so so so bad||

||I must see if it's as ridiculous as the drawing and how it moves||

[sturdy flower]

it literally says Final trailer

i do not think they'll be showing anything else

only possible exception is maybe a release trailer

but even then they can't possibly show all the remaining megas

[spare roost]

they can if they montage flash them 5 seconds each with no elaboration

though it hink the entire lineup of trainers going to mega was supposed to be the teaser hint to the potential megas

so if you're playhing through the story and you see that trainer, look for who their partner/ace is

[gray canopy]

Anyone know

[spare roost]

its true

you have to hit a certain rank, and then gain the mega stone, once obtained you cannot acquire another mega stone.

season 1 is Greninja, Season 2 is Delphox, season 3 is Chesnaught

[gray canopy]

everytime i think it cant possibly get worse

[spare roost]

to make matters worst, Ranked is locked behind Nintendo Online

[gray canopy]

yeah

[sturdy flower]

there is a good chance that they'll be easy to get, you won't have to try too hard to get them

so no crazy high rank

more so a way to push people to try pvp battles

i don't think we should lose our minds so early, a full month before it releases

let's actually wait for them to go live and then we'll judge

I'll probably get online because it'd let me play MHRS online too

[viscid adder]

plus, even if it does go to shit, someone will find a way to exploit the system and hand out the stones

[storm tinsel]

Still means it's locked behind online then, unless you hack your game yourself

[hasty pendant]

do you think mega xerneas and yveltal will be on ZA?

[storm tinsel]

||Based on leaks, base game no, dlc possibly but we don't know if the new leak is accurate or not yet||

[warm knot]

Can't wait for Zygarde and Hoopa to be DLC exclusive

[sturdy flower]

what are you talking about

zygarde is literally the pokemon the entire game revolves around of

it's shown in multiple trailers and in the box art

[indigo mango]

Hoopa will be but Zygarde wont

at most Zygardes Mega will be

which i still dont think it needs

[sturdy flower]

I'm sorry how exactly would you get mega zygarde without getting regular zygarde

[indigo mango]

with a mega stone

[gray canopy]

if mega zygarde is DLC locked that is insane

[sturdy flower]

dude you literally just said that zygarde won't be in the game

that makes zero sense

[indigo mango]

i mean the mega kalos starters are behind a paywall too

[indigo mango]

no mega zygarde

read

[sturdy flower]

that's a completely different thing

[indigo mango]

mega raichu is also part of the dlc

but raichu will be in the normal game

[indigo mango]

yes?

read

[sturdy flower]

I'm reading.

[indigo mango]

i said zygarde wont be dlc locked

but its mega probably will be dlc

[sturdy flower]

how the fuck was i supposed to know you weren't responding to me

[indigo mango]

cause i mentioned hoopa

[sturdy flower]

you do know replying is a thing right

[sinful dagger]

mega zygarde will probably be base game boss or something

[indigo mango]

so i responded saying hoopa will be but zygarde wont

[sturdy flower]

it almost definitely will be

[indigo mango]

there was enough context lul

[sturdy flower]

no there wasn't

[indigo mango]

you never even mentioned hoopa

[sturdy flower]

there would have been if you actually made it clear what you were responding too

[tawdry flame]

||probably final boss or something idk||

[indigo mango]

next time just read

it helps

[sturdy flower]

next time just learn to write

it helps

[tawdry flame]

||then again we don't know yet||

[sturdy flower]

well || we know it's mega has some sort of giant cannon that's a major story spoiler||

safe to say it's involved in the ending of the game