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no what I mean is cut their story
keep playing the game and youll see
I beat the story, all of it
||arven needed a lot more development going into that climax||
yes
hm ok i think arven got good story tho
path of legends should have been the whole main story so it could have fleshed him out even more is all I'm saying
they are all main storys
Stop complaining ur asking too much
You think every little thing is terrible
Actually having a good friend trio in pokemon
Honestly I actually wanted more penny moments. I want to spend time with her and team star
why have i seen both an umbreon and uhhh i forgot the other ones name but pink cat with gem on the forehead in this one cave
"this character was really good and should have been the focus"
"you think everything is terrible"
❔
You just complained that the two friends are annoying
They're not
oh ok
BTW there is after game content
Cheugy
You gotta be checking out in the school you get more development with the characters
And get to see their dorms
but one question that i would like answered as spoiler free as possible so just a yes or no so basically is there a mythical in this? ||like thechnically theres not even a legendary koraidon is technichally just a cyclisaur and also a bit like with the ultra beast situation not legendarys but they pretty much are in peoples minds ||
No
ohhh right
they're going to either be a part of the DLC or Mystery Gift exclusive
forgor
tell me more abt the mystery gift thing
it's how they distribute event pokemon without using ingame events
Your girlfriend
hmm ok ill try and remember that idk when its gonna be tho but (possible dlc spoiler ahead) ||i am still sure theres gonna be a legendary in each dlcs||
"Your pet bike"
Herba mystica = HMs lol
btw are these stats weird in such a short amount of time? especially counting the shiny count
evolving your shiny adds to the count so thats probably why. apart from that, it does seem to me like you went faster than most
55 hours
… i never evolved one i found a persian by accident and caught it without knowing it was a shiny then a drednaw then a LÉ CHONK that isnt evolved
damn, thats lucky
yeah idk how either the two first i found before even beatikg the false dragon
oh and also im guessing theres shinys of every new paradox right?
not expecting to get one but would be sick
mhm, there are. ive heard they can be pretty hard to differentiate though
hm ok i guess ill have to google how they look to see how closely i have to look at them or well at least for the more common ones for ”the one in the cave” im gonna catch like every one of them just to try and get one with great or better stats
since i feel like it can be quite good
also does dusk balls work in that cave?
yes
k nice and for ||screaming tail easiest way to spot its shony is by looking at its eyes they are red then apparently probably like that for some of the others too prob different colours though||
eh whatever cant remember all names al the time and they are stupid anyways lmao
ye but shadows can make things look a bit different too
so it can still be hard to find it so just focus on staring on eyes
also thats a big spoiler
saying the name is one thing but posting a picture is a whole other thing
im just gonnna do this to make people only see it if they scroll up
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need more lol
well to be honest you deserve to be spoiled if you're in this chat
ong
cat gif
You fool
nvm im stupid
my memory sucks lmao
wait a second
why am i catching so many ||roaring moons?||
Guys does anyone have a goodra??? Its my last Dex Entry and its not raining for ingame days now
theres goomys and sliggoos in uh let me check rq
Its mot about those i need goodra
fun fact sliggoo evolves into goodra🤯
sure its lvl 63 or smth but its worth it as its the last one in ur dex right?
He literally said it wasn't raining for him
theres a swamo thingy somewhere
swamp*
Instead of getting a 60 dollar game get some reading comprehension instead
im at least playing it compared to him asking to be traded things to be done quicker bruh
and you cant say im wrong
Thanks for clarifying that, its just that i was asking and to be honest i literally caught everything myself
Just not this MF Goodra
ye then keep doing it for the last one theres also goodras in 5 star raids
i saw one today actually
im trying as much as i can yk
i have a goodra but its my main and i dont even have nintendo online
So you dont have a goodra? Darn
Well sorry kraft, didn't knew that, I kinda overeacted
its fine
Groid, is online trading the same? Like can you request x pokemon for z pokemon?
Like Sun/Moon?
Dunno tbh Ditto is same vs same but not sure anyone would trade a goodra for a goodra
*gooey
Or whatever they are called
@patent rivet Spoilers when speaking about ||Paradox Pokémon||, please. 🙂
Names or images. 😉
Because you didn't have the name spoilered in the text. 
So just delete that message, not the next one
isnt possible if its the same messege as the pic
Meh, they're both gone now anyway. 😂
Bully
It was a different message. 😅
Does Rain Dance not work? 😮
Thats the neat part: it doesnt .....
Of course it doesn't. 
But its finally raining im actually moved right now 😉
I did a real life Rain Dance just for you. 🙂
@polar fable Spoiler tag. 
Ok but how is that a spoiler tho
It's a spoiler for like 3 different reasons. 😂
||1. We're considering Paradox Pokémon spoilers until after Christmas. 2. Their existence is obviously tied into the story which we're also trying to not spoil. 3. The creature you sent a picture of is heavily hinted to be in the DLC.|| 
||theres nothing in the picture about paradox mons or the story aparte from the book that literally appears in your second conversation with arven, and ok if that think appears in the DLC then is spoiler but we don't know that yet||
Ok any way found something, do you guys think...
i got bodied by 5 star goth chick so i am gonna iv train a dunsparce
||If you don't think Paradox Pokémon are a part of the story, you've not finished the story.|| 
Ok, I love Chien-Pao
The dunsparce is gonna become long boy!
na
maybe actualy
so i can actualy use the stuipid moves you were advocating for
are bottle caps better then just iv breeding?
Bottle caps?
hyper training
||i finished but the picture doesnt show anything on paradox Pokémon||
Can I just say, I feel like I am confused by shiny rates and critical capture in this game. Either they impact across profiles (I have one profile, File A, that has the shiny charm, and File B, which I am discussing), the odds are really different than past games, or I am really lucky. I get a bunch of critical captures in my new file, and within 1 hour (grinding before entering Mesagoza the first time) I found a shiny Magikarp.
I wouldn't put it past the game to have different profiles on the same console impact eachother. very intereting hypothesis
I think Pokémon home comparability needs to be a day 1 priority if they plan to continue cutting the national dex
Like what’s the point if you can’t have a new experience with a transfer
And you can’t start with a normally late game Pokémon at the beginning if you don’t wait months since you probably don’t wanna restart your save , there’s no multiple saves , and you Pokémon home is locked to one Nintendo account
Exploring the big lake
For once I’m not overleveled
Well I still am but only slightly
Is anyone able to help me get slowking dm if you can. Much appreciated.
I got like 3 critical captures in my first hour playing, they generally seem a lot more common. 😮
They also seem to not fail, either. I thought they just did one check and could fail, but not a single one of the 30+ I've had have failed. 😅
thats when it shakes mid air right?
should i swap durpys nature to specialise in spatk?
Time to go do the final titan
Hope you enjoy this one!
This one showcase all starter evolution that are available on the game. Not only that but I also added their walking animation side by side and sleeping too. It has been greatly improved.
List:
0:00 Normal Pokémon
2:51 Shiny Pokémon
5:43 Quadruple Starter Comparison
7:23 Pokémon Starter Walking Comparison
9:42 Pokémon ...
It’s so nice to finally be able to climb up walls now
yea
After 89 eggs I got it
I thought arven
Despite me being underleveled for once he was still very easy
I also found a stake I missed so I can get the snail legendary now
The snail is what dudunsparce could have been
I have a ditto raid if anyone has a foreign account
isn't dunsparce a fat snake?
@forest egret
You called?
Spoilers
Ah right
literally 1984 over here
https://gamebanana.com/mods/414599 this mod actually improves the game a ton, i'm surprised
Update on exploration
After I beat the final titan it got so much easier to climb stuff
I’ve also caught 3 of the 4 ruination legendaries now (and found the stakes without help or looking it up)
I just needa go explore the final part to the northeast, find the stakes for the fire fish and beat final team star boss
And then I can start area zero stuff
LF: ||Koraidon|| ||Great Tusk|| ||Brute Bonnet|| ||Sandy Shocks|| ||Scream Tail|| ||Flutter Mane|| ||Slither Wing|| ||Roaring Moon|| (Touch Trade)
FT: ||Miradon|| ||All Scarlet Versions||
I'm talking the whole theme
Not just copy pastw
Alright fellas
I found my shiny ralts
Who gets the boot
Not a question of viability
I will actually run 2 fairies
Charcadet cuz you already have a fire type
Hm , fair point
@sinnhoes I swear to GOD
I was healing my pokemon at one of the stations and there were like 8 PALDEAN TAUROS SURROUNDING THE STATION WHILE I WAS TALKING TO NURSE JOY
THESE MFS AGGRESSIVE AS HELL
Good to know that there's a PLA Paras equivalent in this game.
Although the intent is completely different.
One wants to be annoying and the other want to run the fade and knock you from the census no matter where you are.
Casual pokegraphic
The cooler Shellos 
I was lucky I took a moment to realize that was a shiny
The green looked off and my suspicions were correct
Every blue Shellos is equally cool
Racist
All if them get 6 dunsparce
Tropius should have been buffed this gen
Idk how. Moveset, stat boost, idc
It's a cool design and it should be a better Mon
could have given it the new wind rider ability but idk
what is the difference between normal bottle cap and gold one?
i think its only in raids or buying it
ah raids then
gold is only 6 star i think
ye btw how do you find the 6 star raids i unlocked it but theres so many raids i have to check
ik
i just didnt know how to grt the gold ones
but i just wanna find the raids anyways
since i need herbs
ah ok
Does anybody know why I don't get herbs from raids anymore?
deadass had explosion
bad luck i think
Geez
u doing 6 star raids right?
5 star
those dont drop i think
oh ok lmao guess i dont have to keep looking for 6 star ones
First several gave me 2 each raid
i havent gotten any yet
but maybe now idk
just beat a toxtricity with yellow electricity
nope nothing now just lots of xp
which i dont complain at all abt
im gonna get somuch money by selling these items i get
nice
Who?
mattyburrito
idk if you guys can join or not but i started a 6 star raid group code is 2902 its dragon tera for some burd thing i think
or well just tell me if you wanna try and join and ill send a new thing
i registered my 20th pokemon
i filled 4-5 boxes with dunsparce
wait where does it say the exact weight of a pokemon in its summery
I think you have to go to that lady outside the academy
At least she exists in violet
yea thats what i thought
i heard someone say you could view the exact size in the summary
Is it not in the dex? I never checked to see size on SV
Think size and weight vary like in legends, so the dex shows the standard weight, but not the exact weight for the pokemon
yea
there is someone in the main town that rates them
if they are max large or small they get a title
Fully explored map! All I need to do now is fight the league and then do area zero stuff
I’m also missing a stake or maybe 2 for the final ruination legendary
So I’ll have to backtrack and try finding it
grass snail will definitely be helpful with the first part of the elite four stuff
I can’t use it cuz I already have a team of 6 pokemon
In playthroughs my team members NEVER get replaced or put off the team
Except for rare occasions
dex half full, running out of room in my boxes
I don't think that's in IF. :thinking: Did you misspell something?
gonna have to start releasing pokemon that I dont plan on using that don't evolve
I bred like 8 eevee expecting to have to evolve them myself, but then I ended up catching most of the eeveelutions
only 2 I dont have yet are glaceon and sylveon, but I know where to get them
i have like 5 boxes full of dunsparce
i have 21 pokemon registered
Before I just wonder trade them, anyone need English Dittos for the Masuda method? Or just a 6iv ditto?
You can get up to 32 boxes.
ik
im currentaly trying to breed for a 6 iv dunsparce
im up to like 4
I can help make that a guaranteed 5.
I feel like ||the dlc paradox pokemon|| are literally just ||fusion pokemon||
thats cause they are
Truee
i sadly dont have a subscription yet
I got one and it's def worth it
Unfortunately, that's beyond the scope of my abilities. 
once i do have one i intend to wondertrade max iv dunsparce
Ur not gonna evolve it to a dudunsparce?
no they get to make that choice
Well, I'll hold onto them for a day, I have like 10 dittos or something. Perhaps someone like Blaq or Katten want them.
how? or are you just talking about pokemon home
when you fill boxes you get more boxes
oh, well it hasnt happened yet, and I've got 7 of 8 boxes full
it'll be annoying when my party's box starts getting filled up
oh i just got 16
Put a Mon in each box, then exit. Open again, more boxes. Repeat until 32.
awsome
i am just so disorganised that i got 16
im making a lot of progress
THE ULTIMATE BATTLE
Anyway yea I caught all the ruination legendaries now
Found all the stakes without any help at all
Feels satisfying
is that a fire goldfish
your gonna get mugged by it as soon as you exit this battle
creature of evil was angry that you captured his boss
time to get some more
Going to fight league now here’s my team :)
Lumineon on a playthrough team, how unusual
your missing a dunsparce
i have 6 boxes full of dunsparce
i would give you some if i had a wifi subscription
My team already has a normal type
So can’t put dunsparce on it
Lumineon is awesome :)
Do you really need the bird?
It’s not a normal type
the bird is electric/flying
its name is kilowattrel
Squawkabilly
how would i know its name
the normal bird was squawkabilly i believe
For some reason the e4 is super low level so ig this will be easy as usual
Why is one of the e4 just a toddler
Because comedy
because they are better then most the idiots in the island
Now to fight nemona
im up to 5
you dont want to be her rival
say no
say no
say no
say no
say no
But that’s mean
My team is only like 2 levels above nemona (except lumineon who’s like 5 levels over) but she’s still so easy
I don’t remember the last time I used my tera orb thing
Hi. I’m a new Scarlet player, wondering is anyone has a Riolu, Dreepy, Ditto and Eevee to trade?
anyone else still hitting 15 fps
Don't wory
She doesn't care
Trust ne
I don't like being mean to npcs either
Too late anyway
Same
Other then raids I have used it like twice this game
And it was all against wild pokemkn
I’m in area zone and
The other characters are stalking me everywhere
It’s creepy :(
I have a ditto.
Great!
Random story. Found a shiny Chansey. I used false swipe, it used double edge. Now sans shiny, but oh well, I'll probably see another before too long since finding Chansey is super easy.
Ouch
Did the e4 music looping thing get fixed in the day 1 patch or something?
Cuz the music sounded fine when I heard it earlier
It's probably just a thing that happens to some people
Finished the story thing I was like awwwh that was a great story
And then
And then the Ed sheeren music…
You just got Sheeren'd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm5yyFO21-A
here's something to clean your ears
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it's close to the length of eddy's song
Legendaries: ||Is the merchant from the east that sold the relics to the king of paldea Volo?||
By the way there’s an npc that says there’s fungus among us while talking about foongus and amoonguss
"Fungus among us" is a phrase that existed before amogus but the fact it's for Amoongus is perfect
Among Us has ruined so many phrases
why can't revavroom learn trailblaze
Can shiny voltorbs kill themselves ?
Do someone can bring me ceruldge?
I dont have any empty boxes, but ill double check I guesa
I'm Almost there
anyone wanna help me with it?
Oh I know some people who might
oh nice also
while waiting i made what i thought the picture looked like even if i knew what it was
oh and i have to mention i dont want anyone that uses violets spoiler pokemon since im gonna fight my friend later with a few of them from scarlet from me then he use the violet ones so ye
Nice! How are you counting encounters when they just randomly appear, though? 😮
i was knocking them out to get the full odds
so this was full odds
lmaoo
or not full odds
i have the shiny charm
so half those odds lmao
Oh was it at an outbreak? 🙂
I thought the Charizard event was today?
I did, but still no Charizard ;-;
@empty parrot they said they want to
later today
that small thing launches rocks at corviknights
Tinkaton when it touches salt and suddenly it's flesh starts sloughing off it's bones (Garganacl sweep)
i caught a nacli a the start of the game and its been sweeping every gym,team star leader and titan with iron defense then body press
and salt cure
Ver. 1.1.0 (Releasing December 1, 2022)
-Season 1 of Ranked Battles will kick off, allowing you to enjoy Ranked Battles through the Battle Stadium.
-Please check the in-game notice for more details about Ranked Battles Season 1.
-An issue has been fixed that caused the music to not play correctly during the battles with the Elite Four and the Top Champion in the Victory Road path.
-Other select bug fixes have been made.
We are aware that players may encounter issues that affect the games' performance. Our goal is always to give players a positive experience with our games, and we apologize for the inconvenience. We take the feedback from players seriously and are working on improvements to the games.
hotfix moment
sounds like a "we fixed a couple bugs but not anything that will improve the performance, sorry"
Critical F
I mean it makes sense in a way
Fixing the performance will take time. Especially considering that (at least in my oppinion) the game should have gotten at least one whole extra year of development to fix the performance
But some small stuff like fixing the elite 4 music and removing the dublication glitches (I assume) can probably be done pretty quickly, so it makes sense to push that out first
I hope they actually do fix the performance eventually, and not just hope people forget about it
I think they'll have to at this point
But it's still just sad all in all
even though it doesn't affect me at all, at least it'll shut people up 
Pokémon 06
i just had to reset my game because i was on miraidon and jumped then when i landed it wouldn't stop the going down animation, i could keep moving around the area i was in but it couldn't go to any higher ground or press any buttons
Ancient Paradox Pokémon are filled with Infinity Energy from back when the world was filled with the stuff, as confirmed in ORAS and X&Y. Pokémon back then were much more powerful normally, which is why Mega Salamence looks like Roaring Moon: that's just what Salamence used to be like when Infinity Energy was everywhere. What we still don't know is how far back in time most of the Ancient-Paradox mons existed though: Are they from the same time period? Multiple periods in history? Did any encounter ancient humans, or did they predate humanity?
Future Paradox Pokémon on the other hand are all robotic entities, and we don't really know if they're 1) normal Pokémon that evolved robotic parts (ala stuff like Metagross), 2) artificially enhanced Pokémon like Mewtwo or Genesect, or 3) entirely artificial organisms, made to resemble real Pokémon by future humans. Whatever they are, it suggests the future of the Pokémon world is pretty dark, and that spark of organic life is missing. Not anything new in terms of Pokemon lore, but still disheartening to know that the future is gonna be less wild and more chrome.
Just a ramble.
have you seen the paradox pokedex entries
Yes:
- Dinosaurs are canonical in the Pokémon world.
- Great Tusk existed during the Dinosaur era.
- Brute Bonnet is the missing-link between Dinosaurs and Amoonguss. (??????????????)
- Scream Tail is an organism that lived a billion years ago.
- Flutter Mane is a "ghostly pterosaur."
Amoonguss is monophyletically a dinosaur and Scream Tail predates multicellular life on Earth.
someone told me salamances disproves the 2 universe theory on megas
It does, since the Pokedex mentions Mega Evolution.
This elusive creature is called Roaring Moon after a similarly described being in the Scarlet Book. It looks similar to Salamence when they undergo a certain phenomenon elsewhere in the world, but it's unclear if there is any connection.
ok thx
So gen 9 plays in the ORAS timeline and not in the RSE timeline?
Pretends to know shit about pokemon lore 
nice to see gamefreak acknowledge mega evolution
it means no timelines
But mega evolution only exists in the oras world
it is saying people just don't have the stones in paldea
or it is impossible in any other region
also you could do it in alola i think
I've had that bug happen to me and if I just let it wait long enough it would reset me, but that might have been dependent on the location I was at
Alola plays in the mega timeline thingo because rainbow rocket summons the oras versions of the team leaders
The lore, its all in the lore
The lore that makes perfect sense
I swear, trust me
i waited for like a half hour and made lunch
why does salamences entry talk about mega evolution then
oof
probably cuz this game plays in the mega timeline then
there's a theory going around that the crater of paldea was made by the X/Y ultimate weapon but the official time line for scarlet and violet says that the crater appeared a million years ago
but the weapon fired 3000 years ago
Well then the theory is not a good theory 
I suppose it's possible that the weapons projectile landed inside the crater and awoke what was inside but that would be incredibly coincidental
but it would line up the formation of the kingdom and the legend of the treasure
working on my meowscada sprite
oh also @lament glen i fixed up my arboliva sprite so here it is if you needed it
b/a
Looks even better, good job
What is everybody think of my Fusion
Fusion of ceruledge and what
Probably the other swore thing
We already knew dinosaurs existed since gen 1
Why green tho
I like the IF interpretation though, where there were non-rock type dinosaurs, but only the rock types survived as fossils
also I really like the school parts of this game but I wish it was more like Persona, where you're forced to go to class after a while (but you can skip if you want), and they were more spread out, rather than "get a bunch of classes, go to the front desk and sign up to do them all one by one"
also it's really weird that you never even battle once in battle studies
they should do something like, you don't get any LP until you go back to the academy and cash them in, at which point you rest up, go to class, and then you go back to exploring
That doesn't really square with the fact that a lot of fossil types look like rock types. Some do.l, but neither of the gen 3 ones look like rock, omanyte doesn't, and archen doesnt.
not all pokemon look like their type
Also the fossils in sword and shield arnt rock, and also are very blatantly not the same pokemon as they were in life
Rockruff doesn't look rock type
also fitting that those were the ones that failed to be reconstructed well, like the rock ones were easier
What fits with what we see of the fossil pokemon is that they were changed by the fossilization and revival process, changing their type
nah, cause mega aerodactyl's pokedex says that the stone parts make it more like its original form
Source for this is Ultra Moon:
Mega Evolution awakened some dormant genes, bringing back the sharp rocks that once covered Aerodactyl's entire body. ```
You seem to be implying that the other fossil pokemon we got complete skeletons of, but most we only had a head, or with one of the gen 3 fossils, we only had a claw
the idea is that they're cloning them from their DNA and rock types' DNA would have survived more because they're already rocks, but non-rock type DNA would have broken down so they might have tried to fill it in like puzzle pieces with other fossils
This also supports my point that they arnt perfect revivals and were effected by the revival process, changing them from their original forms
Okay, why the fuck does nemona's final battle theme slap so hard
Anyone need a 6iv ditto?
Some references to fossil mons being rock type before restoration:
Kabutops (Ultra Sun):
Its body had begun to change so it could function on land. But it didn't adapt in time and went extinct.
Lileep (Ruby):
Lileep became extinct approximately a hundred million years ago. This ancient Pokémon attaches itself to a rock on the seafloor and catches approaching prey using tentacles shaped like flower petals.
And some counter-evidence:
Tyrantrum (Ultra Sun):
Complete restoration is impossible, allowing room for theories that its entire body was once covered in a feather-like coat. ```
None of those sound like rock type
was bored.
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not to butt in on the convo, but those entries only reference the individual pokemon being rock type before restoration. Tyrantrum as an exception proves that it doesn't apply to all fossils
(also galar fossils cough cough)
Well it doesn't prove it. Also aren't the Galar ones all ice type, or am I wrong? I could see ice from glaciers having similar properties as rock.
Bruh are people complaining that fossil mon are rocks
its just a nerd discussion on whether they were rocks before they were fossils or not
Yea
In my mind they were not
nope, all monotype
electric, dragon, ice, water
the combined ones have either dragon or ice, water or electric
But since they are all fusions, their "3rd" type that always got lost because of the 2-type limit could have always been rock technically
I think they would be half rock type if they had their proper halves
technically, yes, but mega aerodactyl's pokedex entry gives way to the possibility that fossilization is what turns revived fossil mons rock type
But that entry says it was rock type basically
as the restoration is never perfect, according to the pokedex
It says he used to have rocky spikes, and the mega evolution brought those back
yeah, so restoration isn't perfect
same with tyrantrum
who knows how different some fossil pokemons were back in their age
Hey anyone looking fuecoco? I been hatching em to trade for the pokedex
Rock
Lizard
If anything, it's the opposite, the revival made it less rock type, with the protruding rocks being part of its latent DNA
Anyone got something from the Larvitar line to trade for a Salamence? The AJP link code is full of Violet Players and 0 Scarlet players
Nvm
Got one
Time to take 3 years for a foreign ditto. I miss the GTS ;-;
it also made tyrantrum possibly less flying type 
if feathers mean flying type, that is
Question, does shiny sandwich work for egg shiny hunting?
Something to keep in mind is that Tyrantrun is in the crown tundra
Which, according to its lore, all the fossil pokemon there were saved from extinction, and thus have never been revived by science
All of the fossil dudes there are still rock type
But that could just be because of game mechanics
Not wanting to make a new design just for that
Also now that I think about it, it's weird that the game story says ||it's bad to take paradox Pokemon from the past and let them live in the present, but reviving dead Pokemon from the past to live in present time is fine||
Shiny hunting Lechonk
||The area zero journals and the dex entries may also imply that Paradox mons are created rather than pulled from actual time periods, but in any case it is weird how inconsistent pokemon's science ethics are||
pokedex says otherwise
it calls Tyrantrun a restoration
I know but he's right there just chilling out
probably restored ones released into the wild
Or just a way for gamefreak to give us fossil pokemon without their fossils
Well yeah, that's the reason
But they're trying to justify why that is. Shadow Rider Calyrex's dex says it saved a bunch of ancient mons from a meteorite and safeguarded them in the Tundra
Basically, they make up everything on the spot and don't care about having consistent lore
And they just say "multiverse lol" to fix it
That's the pokemon way
it could also be that it is a perfect restoration and the people who wrote the dex entry dont know about the tundra, so the "theories" about them having feathers were either just wrong, or a regional variant
scarlet would have been the perfect game to have such a regional variant show up, too
||Paradox versions of the fossils would've been pretty sick||
Yall think we'll get any DLC for Scarlett and violet? ||There are those books with pics of a fused dog trio and a paradox virizion, so yall think those will be DLC, or maybe for a third game/sequel?||
I'm currently assuming DLC personally
It's confirmed DLC yes, make sure to hide those 2 under spoilers, some people don't know that stuff yet
They've ditched the 3rd version concept at this point I'm pretty sure
so yeah, dlc
Not gonna get it tho 
Fine 😛
Thanks
||The sketchbook also has the 3rd legendary, and he's pretty interesting looking||
They could do an ultrasun and ultramoon thing again. Hope they dont tho lol
||Also leaked swords of justice paradox||
Mhm
That was just a 3rd version with extra steps
Why is this bird so big?
Bige
I think if they were going to do a third version thing it's going to be more of a sequel like Black and White 2
Na third version would be based on an alternate universe
So there would be alternate universe mons
A sequel that starts with the player graduating from the academy and then exploring three different routes like research (catching 'em all), maintaining their Champion title and becoming a Coordinator would be really cool. 😄
I think if they were going to do a third version thing it's going to be more of a sequel like Black and White 2
too many mysteries remain to be wrapped up in DLC I think
They can do another dlc
Sadly they will never do sequels or third games again
Also what about nemona's story?
What ABOUT Nemona's story?
if they do a sequel I hope they give the ||paradox forms|| actual names like they did with the ultrabeasts in ultra sun and ultra moon
Charizard raids are currently going, by the way. 🙂
Yay
I don't like Charizard, but an extra Pokémon is an extra Pokémon. 😄
We never saw her journey qnd development
So prequel
cause "||Iron Tusk||" doesn't really feel like a pokemon name.
gotta train up my doggo
sounds more like a move it would use, lol
oops sorry for the ping
Don't apologise. 😂
It can apparently learn ||Metal Claw|| and I think even ||Iron Head||, so be careful. 😮
that's interesting
Yeah, they should've done what they did with Ultra Beasts
I mean, the legendaries have ||paradox names besides their real names||
||going by one of the entries in one of the professors journals the paradox names are like the scientific name before they actually get named, since the professor named koraidon/miraidon from their similarly strange paradox names before the events of the game||
||Winged King and Iron Serpent||
damn, shouldn't have clicked that
||it expalins why every future paradox pokemon has the Iron prefix||
||they all belong to the same genus of inorganic/cybernetic pokemon as far as the professor knew||
||where is the past Pokemon are all specifically different organisms from one another being at least similar in variety to present day pokemon genuses||
Spoilers
For all that really
fixed
I don't like samurott
@livid ferry Includes some Pokémon that we're spoilering, so spoiler tag it please. 🙂
oh yeah sorry
competitive stats for november for anyone who enjoys that. list has a ton of spoilery pokemon fyi
I'm honestly shocked to see ||Great Tusk|| so high. 😮
lol what's ditto doing there at 28
Only 4 of the top 20 being old Pokémon indicates power creep may very much be a thing. 😂
i hear its a great physical attacker
definitely. last gen i think it was only 25% in the list but this time its 69%
new ones i mean
If it's 16/20 then it's 80%. 
ditto lets you adapt really easily to others. it also copies opponent’s stat changes so you can basically “steal” a powered up mon for your own team
well yeah
oh yeah i meant in total but 80% is insane
i guess that's particularly helpful with these insane powerlevels this gen
and top ten is only 1 old
A lot of new stat spreads seem more min-maxed than usual. 😅
Which means the higher stats can be even higher. 😂
esp with all the new gimmicks and abilities. ||houndstone|| and ||maushold|| can both potentially get 200+ base power move
I need 1 person for charizard raid with lv 100 fairy azumaril or equivalent please.
I don't get the Clodsire hype, I've never seen it be much of a threat yet. I mean I get that it's just another type for Quagsire, and it's also one of few Pokémon that can still have Toxic, but I always find myself knocking it out or nullifying it super easily
Usually with Garganacl which is way lower on that list lmao
I have a lvl 100 belly drum based ||iron hands||
Does that work?
i havent either honestly. i think it just exists to like set up stuff and be a wall; nothing fancy or extravagant. just consistent
I also haven't seen much out of Glimmora but like
I've seen more potential in Glimmora than I have in Clodsire
yeah i dont understand what makes clodsire soooo high
Orthworm being higher than Quaquaval really shocks me. Maushold too. Maushold seems really gimmicky and Orthworm isn't bad but feels like a worse wall than Quaquaval is a sweeper if that makes sense?
As in I feel I see more value out of Aqua Step + Moxie than I ever do with Orthworm
i think it does, orthworm is immune to ground tho with one of its abilities and gets shed tail too
im actually watching a moxie quaquaval sweep rn
lots of them might be because of "new toy" syndrome which is something i just learned about. basically, theyre high up just because theyre new and are good enough
I still don't like how middling Quaq's stats are (Samurott vibes, which like I love Samurott but it sucks) but aqua step is a super solid signature
Still think there was potential in Hidden Ability: Dancer with Victory Dance in its moveset tho
I think that's definitely the case, though I may be underestimating a few of them because of my penchant for using Garganacl
It may not be the strongest new Pokémon but Salt Cure devastated a lot of the most popular walls
garganacl is good too so that might be another reason
And purifying salt means status stalls are meaningless
honestly lots of pokemon are good in this gen. even the bad ones arent horrible
Honestly? The only definitively awful Pokémon this gen I can think of is Spidops
Such a let down because I love the design
But how the hell do you end up with less functionality than Pokémon like Beedrill???
whats really shocking to me is how much flutter mane was used. it was banned pretty early on yet still ended up at first place
I went with 3 and AI. 2 100 belly drum Azu and 1 support, HP/Spdef blissy. Screen. Life dew and helping hand beat it in 30 sec.
It does have a fire attack. 2 actually. So it might work but keep the fire moves in mind. The fairy typing prob works better.
Oh yeah I mean even I was guilty of abusing it when it was available.
If you set it up you were guaranteed a win
And most people didn't run tera fire, so when I figured out how good that was I abused it even more
its also great to see all the starters on this list
For sure but I think Meowscarada's placement is misleading as to how good it is compared to the others
It's strong but the Protean nerf has definitely done it's job
itll probbaly fall out i think
I don't personally think overall it's any stronger than it's counterparts but it's more that the current popular Mons don't counter it as hard as they do the others
the thing im looking forward to most is how the scene will evolve. i hope some random pokemon turns out to be really good or something later on
Like Skeledirge: amazing wall, with potential to take out other bulky Mons, but at the moment a lot of what's above it is just naturally super strong regardless
Especially as proto/quark boost ignored unaware
Whilst more of Meowscarada's counters aren't particularly prevalent
Honestly you know what I find most shocking about this list? ||Iron Thorns'|| placement
OH AHAHA NEVERMIND
That's regular ass T-tar
I was like "I've barely seen that fucker how'd it get so high"
i actually think thats normal tyranitar. i dont see the neon green on it
Still, Tyranitar over ||Iron Hands|| is kind of a shock
LMAO yeah
I feel like I've seen a lot of ||Iron Hands||
But in comparison I've barely seen Tar
i think were gonna see lots of mons move up and down in december after some of the bans
I'm praying something comes along that just kicks Dragapult's ass
I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion but I fucking hate that thing
watch the best counter to dragapult just be another dragapult
Nasty unpredictable fun destroying Dragapult
Is it physical? Special? Is it a Support Dragapult? Is it scarfed, meaning you have no chance of outspeeding? Or is has it invested in bulk, which is surprisingly good?
All that wasted on another dragon pseudo
They could have dumped it's attack or special attack, made it a non-mixed non-pseudo and it'd still be a busted Mon
And they could have given the pseudo title to ANYTHING ELSE
Dragon Ghost is just too good
My personal preference would be Grimmsnarl
But people have recommended Hatterene too
I also think Centiskorch would have been an awesome Pseudo Legend if they'd made it a three-stage
god i would have loved that. centiskorch has to be my favorite or one of
It's a super cool mon! I really wish it was just better
But no! Instead they wasted the 600 base stat on another fast dragon
At the end of the day I'm all for versatile Pokémon, I just don't like a Pokémon that does everything
And Dragapult is kinda one of those
Great defensive typing, great offensive movepool for both physical and special, good support, amazing speed
Works in singles and doubles
I'm sick of the damn thing and I didn't even play a lot of gen 8 ou
Is this the dude who keeps churning out Mons which are amazing but people love to shit on??
I swear to god he was behind some of the gen 5 object Mons as well??
im pretty sure he did spidops too
he made vanilluxe and people have never been able to see past that
That's the one! Fucking love this guy
Makes some of the best but most controversial designs
he was also the art director for swsh
yeah honestly. some of my favorites are by him
Vanniluxe is way overhated
I remember back when I was younger gen 5 was like the game to shit on design wise
It's only been in more recent years that everyone switched up on it
But Garbodor and Vanniluxe used to catch way more shit than they do now
yeah his pokemon designs are pretty fun
buzzwole and golurk kick ass
honestly ive always loved garbodor and trubbish
vanilluxe and mandibuzz are whatever to me
Buzzwole is one of my favourites and Golurk is one of the best Pokémon designs
Golurks only issue is being a bit oversold
HE'S A ROCK GOLEM THAT CAN FLY FOR GODS SAKE
EXACTLY
look at him go!
I just wish they kept its abilities more in tune with what it can actually do
Like they build up all this hype about it becoming a cannon, or firing from castles
But it's special attack is shit and they don't give it any good projectile physical attacks
For every 2 W he got 3 Ls
I see 0 L's on that list
What about the cup of tea?
Anyways I am blaming him of the designs of this gen because he's the art director and should know better
im just calling my ||paradox salamance|| gilamance until im corrected
I think they patched the dupe glitch
Polteageist is great
It's ghost tea
I don't know what more you want from ghost tea
And...?
Do you not like the liquid being the ghost? Would you prefer the ghost made the liquid?
Like piss?
You want ghost piss???
piss ghost
Dont put the words you fantasize about in my mouth, you piss fan
Spoken like a true ghost piss enthusiast
I don't mind it being patched, It's a good thing tbh
Polteageist being the first form
Then the pot becomes the dress
Or the helmet of a knight
.....you seriously asking for a waifumon?
YOU WANT GHOST PISS TEA GARDEVOIR???
Good news, I got Charizard the Unrivaled
ayyyy
Or a knight.
Hell, it could even work if it became ghost/water by cracking the pot and revealing a dragón made out of water
Question, can you bring the Unrivaled Charizard into the Charizard raid? The game wouldn't let me join when it was in my party
Like, the parts and set of the tea becomes parts of a dragon
...huh.
that's a really good idea for another mon
or a regional sinistea/polteageist
like, a second evo
"magestea"
Or the tea knight, that uses a tablecloth as its cape and carries a spoon as a sword and cup rest as its shield
potential polteageist evos/subspecies
I can even extend into it
By making the counterfeit forms evolve into black knights while the authentic evolve into white ones
Like the stories of black and white knights
OOOH sickballs
well, since Gen 9 reintroduced cross generation evos, I would be down to see that idea come to fruition
What we were discussing again?
piss or sumn
Yeah
HOW TO DEFUSE A FIGHT: turn it into a civil discussion!
Can't believe I said the polteageist design was mid and his first response was to begin talking about piss
Anyways, should we move the conversation of cross grn evos to another, more appropiate chat?
honestly teleport away.
I gotta go eat
Aight, I will be in #other-pokemon-games, enjoy your meal!
Don't have any tea with it.
Are your former titan orthworms not showing a mark ?
My game says it don’t have it and I’ve caught and reset 3 times
Nvm
Apparently I can’t in the pc
But can on Team
Wasted time for nothing
if pokemon is so good wheres the piss pokemon
Where find Slakoth?
an unfortunate bronzong in the wild. This is its life
rip bozo 💀
woodzong
Truleebronzong
man, regional forms are getting wild
this is just as great as ponytas on trees
dude. be careful what you wish for.
it actually was stuck there too
I guess it was just there for years and the tree grew under it
trees eating things televised
kite eating tree real
nnnOOOO
wawait can you host raids without the subscription
Huh, I wonder if a certain Pokemon is popular for this raid
lmao
i found a 5 star gold mimiku raid
idk what that means
but i cant win
and its late
It's a lower level raid meant to get you "good" Pokemon to use against Charizard
What
The 5 star?
Yup, the golden background ones
But I say "good" generously
I mean they are low level compared to the Charizard which is level 100
Aren't level 6 raids level 90
75 last I checked
What I am trying to say, is notice how the only other special raids are fairy type pokémon
The golden background raids you see online are part of the event
It's not just Charizard, it's also mimikyu and florges
Give me a second. I will send a screenshot of what I mean
Notice how mimikyu and florges have a gold background like Charizard?
They are part of the event
@hazy scarab
Like I said, they are there to give players access to stronger fairy types to use in the raid
Even though everyone is practically using Azumarill
My friends and I practically bred perfect azumarulls for the event
Huge power is great
Bulbapedia: ||"Iron Valiant is described as having a very cruel nature. It was willing to mercilessly cut down anyone in its way. It does this by using the brilliantly shining blade to strike without hesitation."||
||Iron Valiant|| in-game:
I'm trying to breed perfect dunsparce
I'm so close yet so far
2 5 ivs
||awwwwww||
God Salazzle is gonna be hell
You can find wild salazzle in the cave under psychic gym
Yes
Which city is the psychic gym I forget?
The one on the big mountain on south west corner of map
Alfornada?
Idk any of the city names lo
You doing the tree ram thing right?
I’ve seen pineco on trees in the route between grass gym and electric gym
And also wild applin on the ground on the mountains lining the crater there
Ill have to try over there...
Aw, man, they patched the "glitch" that basically guaranteed infinite shiny ||flutter manes||
ive found like 3 wild "applins"... they were all zorua 
THAT EXISTED? I wish I could of done that
Oh right I forgot zorua and zoroark exist in this game how do you even find them
Basically you would make a ghost shiny boosting sandwich and then went into Area Zero during the day. Only shinies would spawn and not the regular ones
Oh
And then the game once you caught the first one would try to spawn more, which means only shiny ones would spawn immediately
I haven’t even made a picnic yet at all
Do you have to make the sandwiches yourself or can you buy them somewhere or something
the best way to spot them is a pokemon walking when it would normally fly/run -- cyclizar and the car engine guy kinda just slink around if theyre zorua. But mostly just run into them and theyll transform into zorua, same w ditto
the shiny sandwiches you have to make yourself
Oh I see
I do wish that walking onto a pokémon showed its gender
Locking
Right as I was about to complain a female one walked right into me
There is a god
you can buy food or make your own sandwiches
each restaurant meal has predetermined effects, while making sandwiches allows you to customize what kind of effects you want to have
regardless, the effects of these foods all last 30 minutes.
anybody want to trade a ||great tusk, flutter mane, or slither wing|| (SV Story Spoilers) for my ditto?
oh, and you get to learn about dishes you never heard of before! like this one
Escalivada!
Pinchos!
Galettes!
Alfajores!
Pinchitos!
God Gimmighoul's evolution method is so tedious
Collect 999 of these items that drop one at a time OR 50 at a time if you find the special chest version that, as far as I know, doesn't respawn.
Chest gimmighoul are at the top of most of the old tower things
And the little roaming forms can drop between 1-5 or more on rare occasions
I found it pretty easy, I got 999 coins around the last few titans and star bosses to fight
There’s also an npc that gives you like 30 coins or something in the normal gym city
Is charizard in violet
charizard is in neither version
but you can transfer him from Pokemon Home!
....oh wait there's those charizard raids
So... yes he's on both versions, but for a limited time.
chi yu looks like my goldfish that died and i flushed it
How to transfer
Once Pokémon home gets an update for SV
Is there a list of pokemon people know can be transferred over but arent in the game?
Pretty sure the chests do respawn, otherwise you can't catch more gimmighoul?
Serebii should have a list
yeah the chests respawn
unpopular opinion, skeledirge shouldve stood up.
now let me explain myself. skeledirge is a good concept but not well executed. plus its a lot longer than other pokemon and just looks out of place. standing it up would not only fix that, but add a chest area for more designs to be visible
it looks out of place by being so long, every time i see it it doesnt give me pokemon vibes
again, its an unpopular opinion
the first three lean upwards to counteract their length and make themselves fit more into a smaller space. rayquaza twists its body to achive the same effect
It's just...
A crocodile
Idk what to say like
They're long
Like Alolan Exeggutor, it's super tall
But not unreasonably tall
Because it's a palm tree.
and youre saying alolan exeggutor doesnt look strange?
I wouldn't say it needs a design change or doesn't look like a Pokémon lmao
Skeledirge went on all fours and Meowscarada stood up
yep, sadge
Anyone know if a Lvl 90 Quaquaval will be okay for the Charizard raid? 😮
prolly not i think running belly drum azumarill will be better
cuz the starters usually cant really do that much damage
You see Katten, not having a Belly Drum Azumarill makes using a Belly Drum Azumarill more difficult. 😛
My highest-levelled Pokémon apart from Quaquaval is Lvl 68.
Everyone seems pretty set on Azumarill but if you wanted to break the mold I've seen people suggesting Misty Terrain Daschbun
I do have a Dachsbun, but a Lvl 66 Dachsbun probably isn't going to be of much use. 😂
Let’s talk about how IF predicted scarlet/violet though it’s just a coincidence
I think the NPC is in victory road, but they talk about a child prodigy
And that’s exactly what Poppy is in SV, right?
im listening to this while grinding… (i think theres something very wrong with me) https://on.soundcloud.com/mdajsTxNSbwGsjF87
Listen to Jojo's Bizarre Adventure - Bloody Stream (Kazoo Cover) by AdamTehJojoWeeb #np on #SoundCloud
u got it hupertrained?
wait. that says the SECOND raid event. what was the first?
when was that?
It says it in the picture. 😛
i never got the news of that
In that final stretch of the dex
No
Missing the following dex entries: 255, 258, 266, 268, 282-287, 292, 300, 302, 307, 313, 314, 326, 367-369, 371, 372 and 392
thought about what a hypothetical third version would be called, in keeping with the names Scarlet and Violet
it would probably be Amber
We don't get third versions anymore. Because somehow they think it costs them money
No
They would have one for every legend
idk if there is a third legend
Scarlet 2 and violet 2
haven't gotten that far yet
God this is hell
pokemon yellow didnt have anything to do with a legend though
What version you got
That was gen 1
That means nothing
how do you find the tera raid?
Pokémon yellow only exists because they wanted to cash in on the popularity of Pikachu being ashes starter
Violet
Well, there’s the four legendaries with the stakes in the ground, break the seal blah blah blah
okay, I wasnt really asking you to tell me
And there’s a mention of a “disc Pokémon” being the main source if the crystals and terastilizing
how do you find the charizard raid?
i think you have to finish the story first
i did
I've not found it myself, but if you connect to the internet and enter the Poké Portal, I assume you get some by searching for Tera Raids that way. 🙂
non are there
That's what Jesse's screenshot indicated, anyway. 🙂
If you look on your map, there is a raid symbol, and if there it is pulsing then its a special raid