#pokemon-winds-waves
shell grail
quiet frost
yes I agree
tacit timber
fuecoco >>>
clear crest
Are starters shiny locked?
Ye
tacit timber
I believe so
tacit timber
Gen 5 is whrn they started shiny locking them
quiet frost
ah ok 👍
shell grail
didn't sun and moon have not shinylocked starters?
tacit timber
Oh idk
I never played sun and moon
...
I played like the showdown
And incineroar made me hate alola so much
I jus never got to buy it
Also any1 else spoil pokemon s/v via pokemomshowdown
Istg flutter mane is busted
night python
so is the game good?
tacit timber
One shot almost most things except miraidon and a couple other steel types but fire terastyl fixes it
lunar phoenix
clodsire
clodsire
clodsire
clodsire
clodsireclodsire
clodsire
clodsire
clodsire
clear crest
AAAAAA
tacit timber
which games you played
Everything but pokemon sun and moon andd the pokemon ranger games
lunar phoenix
clodsire is perfection
tacit timber
clodsire is perfection
No reject clodsire, embrace paldean wooper
night python
Everything but pokemon sun and moon andd the pokemon ranger games
What, ya haven't played The Ranger games?
lunar phoenix
clodsire
night python
those are good
tacit timber
What, ya haven't played The Ranger games?
Never got interested in them
shell grail
i wish some of the new pokemon had better stats like brambleghast and orthworm :(
lunar phoenix
i wish some of the new pokemon had better stats like brambleghast and orthworm ...
they made clodsire a stall pokemon but also tried to remove stall teams
shell grail
night python
They fuckin what
shell grail
im hoping you can get an electric tera type for it so you can use earth eater to not get hit by any super effectives
bronze pawn
Dudunsparce
shell grail
oh yeah
night python
Dun dun Duun
tacit timber
Also for the first time pinkurchin is a relevant mon
somber girder
they made clodsire a stall pokemon but also tried to remove stall teams
How did they try to remove stall pokemon?
tacit timber
Dudunsparce
Everyone gangster til dududunsparce enters the chat
shell grail
he evolves by leveling up while knowing hyper drill right
shell grail
How did they try to remove stall pokemon?
most healing moves got their pp halved
bronze pawn
most healing moves got their pp halved
Is that it?
tacit timber
How did they try to remove stall pokemon?
Pokemon like toxapex got scald removed, healing moves got pp haxed, and ye overall they got destroyed by these new abilities
bronze pawn
Lmao
shell grail
yeah
tacit timber
Tbh most of the pokemon got like uber worthy power
marble linden
I'm still waiting for the coolbox and refrigerator evolution line
shell grail
and so many new fast pokemon
tacit timber
The four chinse horsemen are menaces
bronze pawn
Pokemon like toxapex got scald removed, healing moves got pp haxed, and ye overa...
Toxapex users rn: 
shell grail
I'm still waiting for the coolbox and refrigerator evolution line
we have ice rotom
tacit timber
The four chinse horsemen are menaces
They have abilities that lower spdef, ded, atk, and spatk by 30% and have 130 in the stat that would wall/destroy them
marble linden
REFRIIIIIGERATOOORR.. Pokemon screams. 🤣
tacit timber
And yeah
If you arent above 105 base speed you're slow
Everything is base 120-135 speed
bronze pawn
Litwick Dog
night python
is your refrigerator running
bronze pawn
They really fused Litwick and Houndour
shell grail
Everything is base 120-135 speed
minus a few with terrible speed like orthworm or cetitan
bronze pawn
marble linden
is your refrigerator running
No my coolbox didn't evolve to a mini fridge yet
I'm still training it
tacit timber
also roaring moon kinda like sucks for the hype its a good dd sweeper but dies to most bug mons with first impression, also like you're better using terastal on flutter mane or the leggies
tacit timber
minus a few with terrible speed like orthworm or cetitan
True
night python
ah, well mine broke my leg, stole my money, and kicked my dog
marble linden
THEY ADDED MORE THAN 100 NEW POKEYMANS
Wasn't it like 20 in the new game?
Minus new forms like 15?
shell grail
think so
marble linden
Or aren't you talking about scarlet and violet?
tacit timber
<:AWAAAAAAA:1031925903263006780>
Yeah but the designs kinda middling with evos being: i stand up, i get more ppl, and the starters looking completely diff
shell grail
100 is a lot
marble linden
I don't count evo as new pokemon.
bronze pawn
I'm just going off bulbapedia
tacit timber
But they are pokemon...
shell grail
dunsparce literally just gets longer
fickle birch
100 is a lot
It's the most we've had at once in a decade. 🙂
tacit timber
That are new...
tacit timber
dunsparce literally just gets longer
Faxx
bronze pawn
It's the most we've had at once in a decade. 🙂
Since gen 5
bronze pawn
dunsparce literally just gets longer
And sharper
fickle birch
It's 3 Pokémon, it's 1 line. 😅
bronze pawn
In my opinion anyway haha
Your opinion is invalid
tacit timber
I kinda find the bisharp evo mid hbu
shell grail
hair stool is weird
tacit timber
Ye
fickle birch
Pichu, Pikachu and Raichu aren't the same Pokémon, but they're part of one line. 🙂
tacit timber
Kingambit
fickle birch
I kinda find the bisharp evo mid hbu
I think it's incredible. 😄
shell grail
he sits on his hair
marble linden
Your opinion is invalid <:doge_smile:976798188411432990>
Lmao
fickle birch
Feels like the type of angular design that would best fit in Gen I. 😄
bronze pawn
There's no pic on bulbapedia yet
tacit timber
There's no pic on bulbapedia yet <a:death:903843579741483089>
He has a sword coming off his head
bronze pawn
Oh?
tacit timber
And sits on his mustache
marble linden
Why push over an opinion?
tacit timber
Conquistador looking
marble linden
Unnecessary 😊
tacit timber
Oh yeah
bronze pawn
Is it Queenly Majesty?
tacit timber
Every pokemon in your party that ded
shell grail
bronze pawn
OH
tacit timber
10% per more to your attack stat
tacit timber
But
bronze pawn
?
tacit timber
His typing ngl sucks
shell grail
btw do revives stack the boost or no?
tacit timber
Better pokemon could need it
tacit timber
Pawniard line when fighting types exist
True the donaphan lines are crazy with their base 100+ speed
Ground fighting
somber girder
Are the paradox mons a one time catch, or can you get multiple for trading?
tacit timber
Pawniard line nightmare
somber girder
Nice
tacit timber
Are the paradox mons a one time catch, or can you get multiple for trading?
You could catch more
shell grail
and are not shinylocked
tacit timber
I personally jus tried resetting til i got some decent ivs
shell grail
but future shiny's are all just silver
my fav new pokemon is brambleghast even though he has low base stats
he gets phantom force and power whip though
white jungle
I wonder if Phantom Force is good on Houndstone
Not so much from a damage perspective but from a perspective of like
It's already a great defense stall
Would a move that makes it unhittable every other turn let it do even better?
I guess it might just lock it in to an unfavorable matchup
shell grail
also has last respects which is good if you want to keep it on the back of your team
base 50 power + 50 power per dead pokemon on your team
so if its your last pokemon its a 300 base power move
and houndstone has 101 base attack
fickle birch
If you pre-ordered from GAME like I did, you got this figure of the starters. I love it! 😄
shell grail
thats only in the uk i think
or somewhere else
no america though
we get 5 berries ingame
fickle birch
I figured GAME was only in the UK. 😅
shell grail
oh i just thought it was some weird company ive never heard of
icy forge
Lets Go
lament glen
Close to the first gym
So far the game itself and the gameplay concepts it works with are honestly good and it feels like the series is slowly going in the right direction again
But man the performance is just so atrocious. It's not even that there are lags here or there or something. It's just a constant. Walk through a town, and every npc that isnt standing within 2 meters of you runs at 2 frames per second. Even in the cutscenes with more people in them that could easily have been polished... same issue. And when you start a battle, you fight a low-poly version of the mon for the first few seconds lol
The earth terra type helmet is funky tho, I like that
shell grail
i know this is controversial but we need a new console that can handle these better games
lament glen
wrong
The switch can run games that look 100 times better
the problem are the developers and the time they get to make these games
spare roost
Close to the first gym
So far the game itself and the gameplay concepts it work...
The game has memory leaks
after a bunch of cutscenes exit and enter the game again
hazy scarab
Dududunsparce
Can confirm
spare roost
and it should run a lot smoother
hazy scarab
Hey, this is my Scarlet/Violet Team:
#1 Dudunsparce👻 | #2 Dudunsparce🔨 | #3 Dunsparce🪶 | #4 Dunsparce🧚 | #5 Dunsparce🏜️ | #6 Dunsparce🌖 |
What do you think?✨
The greatest team of all
heavy zenith
Off to get my game!
fickle birch
I've been playing for hours and I'm not at the first Gym yet, too busy catching wild Pokémon. 😛
heavy zenith
I've been playing for hours and I'm not at the first Gym yet, too busy catching ...
hisses
You spoil ill find a way to mute you lol
fickle birch
Why would I spoil it? 😅
fickle birch
Close to the first gym
So far the game itself and the gameplay concepts it work...
Already seen two fairly major glitches; Pawmi falling into the ground during a battle on a bridge, and a trainer walking with a Floatzel at the same speed so they merged into one. 🙂
fickle birch
Oh, and a weird cliff texture that looked like it was melting. 😂
Other than that, the main issues are shadows popping in and out (especially after battles) and the Legends-style laggy animations, but at a much closer range. 😦
Apparently my friend said the town with windmills is atrociously laggy. 😢
hazy scarab
Off to get my game!
L bozo
hazy scarab
This is how to defeat pennywise
heavy zenith
Nah this is how to get blocked
hazy scarab
Also leave if you don't want things spoiled
hazy scarab
Nah this is how to get blocked
Bozo
white jungle
Also leave if you don't want things spoiled
Shut the fuck up you loser
white jungle
Better
odd cave
||the starter gets a Sombrero||
My new fav mon
hazy scarab
Better
never gonna give you up. Never gonna let you down. Never gonna run around or desert you
white jungle
Mhm
white jungle
And a monkey evolution
Bro I've been here for all the spoilers it's just not right to be a cunt and direct them at people who don't want them
hazy scarab
Well those people shouldn't be in the channel about the game then should they?
It's not even like they are leaks anymore
white jungle
Who
white jungle
Asked.
hazy scarab
My new fav mon
Not dududududdududunsparce
shut jungle
ngl lil disappointed atm
hazy scarab
ngl lil disappointed atm
From?
odd cave
shut jungle
From?
just feels a bit low effort in some areas like the cutscene where the game legendary is flying around showing off the island it would be so easy for them to atleast make the scene look good but no you see so many things pop in low textures like atleast let the CUTSCENE...look good
hazy scarab
Only when you came out 9 months after
Wow you somehow made something better then you
shut jungle
just feels like the game was rushed
odd cave
just feels a bit low effort in some areas like the cutscene where the game legen...
Ngl it looked better in the first trailer
white jungle
I know I was away getting cigarettes for a long time but I'm here for you now
shut jungle
Ngl it looked better in the first trailer
thats because it did...
white jungle
To help you learn proper grammar.
white jungle
Your smaller then most
I mean Your and Then were both wrong here
white jungle
I know you're hurting but in time you'll come to accept me as a father again
I love you son, and I'm here.
white jungle
You skills are almost as bad as your roasts
See a "your" would have been appropriate at the start of this sentence instead
shell grail
is your profile picture the guy from the polar express?
white jungle
is your profile picture the guy from the polar express?
He's just like me for real
heavy zenith
It's not even like they are leaks anymore
Actually, most of the big servers that have tons of players still count them as spoilers/leaks, one im in even put up a 1 week spoiler ban, except in one channel specifically for leaks
white jungle
I'm the actual king for the north pole
shell grail
does that mean @hazy scarab is the prince or something?
white jungle
No it's more of a fight and kill method of ruling
shell grail
ah
shell grail
who is there to actually there to usurp you though
white jungle
When someone tries I'll tell ya
shell grail
ok
hazy scarab
Actually, most of the big servers that have tons of players still count them as ...
This is the channel specifically for leaks
white jungle
This is the channel specifically for leaks
Actually, son, there's no indication of that in the channel itself
It says to keep spoilers contained in this channel, but equally this channel has always been for general talk or speculation for those who don't wish to be spoiled
Now, no one's saying that with the games out you have to keep spoiler-marking your messages
But being in this chat doesn't give you the go-ahead to direct spoilers at people, especially when tagging them so that it shows up in a notification
But I see how you could have gotten confused, champ!
hazy scarab
It specifically says this is the place for spoilers
shell grail
isn't the game out? why do people care if there is spoilers if they aren't playing it actively.
white jungle
Me and your mother still love you
hazy scarab
And that is most of what it is used for
hazy scarab
isn't the game out? why do people care if there is spoilers if they aren't playi...
Yea
lament glen
Release day is always a blurry line
white jungle
And that is most of what it is used for
Actually it's for discussion first and foremost
lament glen
Just dont post end game story spoilers and it should be fine imo 
hazy scarab
Actually it's for discussion first and foremost
You haven't been here long enough to see it
white jungle
isn't the game out? why do people care if there is spoilers if they aren't playi...
Again, no ones saying mark your messages with spoilers, just don't actively try and spoil it for people. It's human decency.
white jungle
You haven't been here long enough to see it
Aw, buddy, that response makes no sense for the context of that message
Good attempt though
Proud of you!
👍
hazy scarab
You have not been in this channel long enough to see much before the games release when it was almost entirely spoilers and discussing said spoilers.
shell grail
Again, no ones saying mark your messages with spoilers, just don't actively try ...
oh ok
white jungle
You have not been in this channel long enough to see much before the games relea...
I've been in this channel since it was made champ
What you're witnessing is called a pfp change
shell grail
i remember him talking on the night all the pokemon were leaked i think
white jungle
But I know at your age object permanence is tough so I can understand why you'd think I'm new
hazy scarab
@white jungle well I assume you are just one of the least observant people I have had the displeasure of meeting.
shell grail
you guys were fine with each other the other day
hazy scarab
you guys were fine with each other the other day
This chump was less ignorant before.
shell grail
ok
white jungle
This chump was less ignorant before.
Hey, pal! Love you, but the chat description says it all. Discussion is the first thing mentioned, that just happens to include spoilers, have a great day kiddo
white jungle
you guys were fine with each other the other day
The situation at home isn't the best
night python
I didn't know that this was a plot point in the scarlet and violet games
shell grail
The situation at home isn't the best
ah
hazy scarab
Sussy
night python
very mutch so
shell grail
yes
white jungle
Honestly
The fact that Paldean women are more muscular than fucking Bea, who outlifts a Machamp in one of the anime shorts
Shows a marked improvement in human designs
hazy scarab
very mutch so
Red...
fluid pond
very mutch so
among us
shell grail
Apparently if you restart the game it fixes your framerate
white jungle
See, Lokix is how you do a bug Pokémon with a low base stat right
Very decent attack and speed, with tinted lens to do something in the way of making up for its low stat total
vestal aurora
Does anyone want to do a charcadet ghost tera raid with me?
Cause if not i'll start in 5min
white jungle
Y'know with the protean nerf
I think Skeledirge might be the best starter this gen
Protean is still strong don't get me wrong
But it's a significant nerf, and Quaquaval I love him but he's mostly just gonna be a scarf sweeper with moxie
But unaware is super strong with Skeledirge's stats
And it's not even like Quagsire it's more like Clefable because it can still pump out damage
static portal
Guys never play ball with your pokemon near a cliff 4 of my pokemon jump from 30 meter ….
Now they take a nap in the pit
white jungle
Okay so
I wanna hear y'all's thoughts on Supreme Overlord
Because I find Defiant Bisharp to be quite strong
So, do you guys generally see Supreme Overlord as better or Defiant?
Because I feel like especially against stuff like Sticky Webs, defiant is way less risk way more reward
shell grail
does protean affect your stats as well? like if you had x2 attack would it work as x1 attack also or does it only affect the opponent?
also i feel like supreme overlord is better because people can't defend against it as much
quiet frost
Already done two tera raids, only started today
Both Finneon, one dragon, one psychic
spare roost
nice
white jungle
Okay after 2 Gen 9 showdown games (keeping in mind every fully evolved Pokémon is currently listed as ou)
Flutter Mane is... Unbelievable busted
Houndstone is a super solid bulk choice, idk how good the one I'm using is but I'm running an assault vest set and it takes a lot of hits with last respects as a move that essentially nukes opposing Mons
The deer legendary is bulky to an op level
white jungle
Y'know looking at the Dex, I was thinking Future Mons would be weaker because of a lack of electric surge Mon but like...
Protosynthesis needs sun and guys it's literally just Torkoal with drought
Nintetailes ain't here, Groudon is currently unattainable as well as being way too strong for the majority of comp levels
Neither ability has a lot of setters
finite remnant
ALREADY?!?
alpine sandal
hmm yes thanks serebii
somber girder
hmm yes thanks serebii
Whats wrong, it shows the right sprites for both
simple cedar
Anyone else having fun on the new pokemon game?
alpine sandal
does it just not change at all when i evolves?
simple cedar
Playing through 100% Blind, at gym 3 which for me is the water gym
shell grail
looks at its chest
alpine sandal
that's dumb, alright then
simple cedar
that's dumb, alright then
Might not evolve and might be the female form?
alpine sandal
Ig ill hold off on my judgements till i play it
shell grail
look at palafins abilities
it shows how to change into a cooler op form
its very op
white jungle
Plus it gets a 20 stronger aqua jet with jet punch
shell grail
yeah
white jungle
I've played around with it a bit and I think it would be good with choice band or scarf but also you can get bulk up set up pretty easily while running jet punch, drain punch and iron head
simple cedar
Omw water gym leader popped up and i already hate her
white jungle
Running scarf would let you make better use of shit like wave crash and close combat but bulk up with weaker attacks like that can be really sustainable and hard to counter once you get one off
I even ran into a trick room earlier and it did jack shit between drain and jet punch
shell grail
yeah
white jungle
I think Houndstone is easily an ou Mon honestly
Last respects gets super op towards the end of your team
vestal aurora
Does anyone have documentanion about how to evolve all mons?
white jungle
And both it's defenses are good especially with fluffy making physical defense twice as good
OH MY GOD IRON THORNS DOES GET DRAGON DANCE
This made my day
Speed nature Iron Thorns with max speed can get to 400 speed with one dragon dance, with an attack boost from booster energy
shell grail
Does anyone have documentanion about how to evolve all mons?
go on serebii or bulbapedia
compact sequoia
I've been doing my research, and it seems scarlet and violet makes up for overworld shinies way too much. not only do they not sparkle in the overworld, most of the new ones that aren't paradox forms suck
shell grail
also no noise
meager oasis
Oh god everything’s on showdown now
shell grail
yeah
pastel lark
scarlet and violet spoilers: IF GAMEFREAK IS NOT DOING IT I WILL 
🤔 which one do i do next ||flutter mane|| or ||sandy shocks||
tired drum
I've been doing my research, and it seems scarlet and violet makes up for overwo...
SO MANU BAD SHINIES I AM SO SAD
*many
pastel lark
I've been doing my research, and it seems scarlet and violet makes up for overwo...
violet paradox shinys also suck lol
compact sequoia
iron thorns would like a word
I like the violet paradox shinies, at least i can look at the difference and actively notice it, compared to most regular mons
pastel lark
iron thorns would like a word
okay you have a point
compact sequoia
like... 'scuse me?
meager oasis
I think a lot of the shinies are pretty neat including that tauros
compact sequoia
where's the difference?
compact sequoia
the 2 most similar colors on the palette. fun fact: in game: the texturing for tauros can make it look impossible to tell normal from shiny at times
meager oasis
Lo
compact sequoia
if you wanted a palette swap that made a difference, shuffle the colors, not swap the 2 most similar ones.
the horn color as the main body, the mane color for the horns, and the main body color for the mane might make a difference.
pastel lark
||paldea tauros just sucks, the shinys, the forms||
meager oasis
My favourite shiny so far from gen 9 is prob past misdreavus
compact sequoia
||despite it being the most obvious thing to give some spotlight, tauros is still underwhelming.||
meager oasis
I love bellibolts shiny too
compact sequoia
I haven't really seen any shiny I'd consider my favorite
meager oasis
I also like farigirafs and espathras and tinkatuffs
compact sequoia
i haven't seen shiny tinkatuff
meager oasis
Basically it’s hammer gets turned to bronze
meager oasis
I think it’s pretty cool
pastel lark
i like farigiraf shiny a lot
meager oasis
Here’s most of the shinies
pastel lark
was hoping a main body color change as well
yeah, that's the only thing i dislike about it so far
smoky bison
I just played S/V for a bit and holy fuck it's so fucking dogshit
compact sequoia
I'm a fan of the imitation tentacool line, and the more muted colors on the fidough evo please my palette brain
smoky bison
Everything about the cutscenes is so awkward, the visuals are terrible (especially the shadows and the constant popping in/out of random assets) and it just doesn't feel good at all.
I like that the fights keep you in the overworld and its quick gameplay pace but man I feel like I am playing a tech demo
viscid adder
the 2 most similar colors on the palette. fun fact: in game: the texturing for t...
It's garchomp all over again
meager oasis
Interesting
compact sequoia
imma be real, i get a lot of those issues. especially the cutscenes.
pastel lark
I'm a fan of the imitation tentacool line, and the more muted colors on the fido...
i like it so much, its a funny guy
smoky bison
imma be real, i get a lot of those issues. especially the cutscenes.
There's just absolutely no polish. Even less than Sw/Sh had
compact sequoia
a bunch of the schoolchildren in the one cutscene were rocking a 5 fps animation. not to mention the atrocious pop-in and light glitching in the school itself
smoky bison
The light glitching was horrendous. My jaw hit the floor when I picked my Pokemon and I could count the individual pixels of my starter's shadow
compact sequoia
when I interacted with miraidon during the early game when he's in ride form his upper jaw clipped through the top of his head whenever I tried interacting with him
vestal aurora
Anyone wants to do a tinkatuff ground tera raid?
compact sequoia
not rn, still waking up
vestal aurora
If anyone is down to do it ping me in the next 5min
tulip glade
I figured out what's under digglet!
When ever it uses bulldoze it jumps up, and you can clearly see, there's is nothing under it except the rest of the rock, meaning that the rock is part of digglets body!
compact sequoia
everyone knows digglet has a gigachad body under the rocks, I can't believe they forgot to implement it this game /j
viscid adder
Huh. Didn't know that.
simple cedar
When ever it uses bulldoze it jumps up, and you can clearly see, there's is noth...
Also means digglet doesnt dig, it just makes itself flat
static portal
Bellibolt is special attack ?
simple cedar
Bellibolt is special attack ?
Pretty sure hes a pokemon not an attack
pastel lark
E4 spoilers ||who the fuck thought it was a good idea to make 3 out of the members weak to ice||
static portal
Pretty sure hes a pokemon not an attack
I know that sorry my English is not good but he's more of a physical attacker or special ?
simple cedar
E4 spoilers ||who the fuck thought it was a good idea to make 3 out of the membe...
Gamefreak!
simple cedar
I know that sorry my English is not good but he's more of a physical attacker or...
Lol and probably when electric lady was using him he was using special attacks
viscid adder
||DUN DUN DUUUUUN... SPARCE.||
simple cedar
||DUN DUN DUUUUUN... SPARCE.||
What did dunsparce get an evo?
viscid adder
What did dunsparce get an evo?
||Yep! Its just as silly as thr original dunsparce. Although the doodle I drew was a hypothetical evolution of the evolution we just got.||
||Bigger, longer, and is dragon type now!||
simple cedar
||Yep! Its just as silly as thr original dunsparce. Although the doodle I drew w...
So its just less long than ur version
viscid adder
||the hyp. Evo, I mean. Reg evo is just normal.||
simple cedar
also there are alot of fangames with dunsparce evo making him dragon type and op and whatnot
pastel lark
So its just less long than ur version
here you go
viscid adder
So its just less long than ur version
Only two to three segments.
simple cedar
Yeah i saw on pokemondb
viscid adder
He's pretty op though
compact sequoia
i'm personally glad he maintained his goofiness, even if he didn't get the dragon typing. a lot of dunsparce fan evos usually forget about how much of a goofus dunsparce is
viscid adder
i'm personally glad he maintained his goofiness, even if he didn't get the drago...
If he ever evolves again, I want him to still look like the goofest mofo around... but make him kick way more ass.
Like alolan executor, but normal type... and longer
So basically if mega rayquaza was just a stupid normal bug snake thing
...oh, and maybe it would have an ability that makes fighting type moves null.
Just to make it more stupid
hazy scarab
Yea a good example is dunseraph from uranium
I just recently learned that game is still around
hazy scarab
So basically if mega rayquaza was just a stupid normal bug snake thing
Dunsparce is based off of a Japanese cryptid that's sorta just a fat snake that bites its tail and rolls at you
Hence why it learns rollout really early
And defence curl
And it was venomous
And it could double jump for uh... reasons
Just a dumb fat snake who politely declined the laws of physics
forest egret
Specifically it's based on the Tsuchinoko, a Yokai. The rolling thing might take cues from Ouroboros
hazy scarab
Oh I somehow forgot to include the name
forest egret
I'm not too big on fan evos that make him into a badass dragon type angel serpent
forest egret
||I would've hoped he changed a little more for his official evo though||
hazy scarab
They captured the really ridiculous nature of the fat snake
Wait
They made him eat more
3 whole eggs
Or voltorb
Wait what if they had just made him round
Would have been awsome
Camel
viscid adder
Just make him so huge that he ascends into godhood
Like, he would look really dumb, but he would be extremely powerful
potent pelican
I don't wanna get spoiled about anything if i can avoid it. Games released in the middle of my exam period 
. What do people think about the game so far?
shell grail
eh
night python
I don't wanna get spoiled about anything if i can avoid it. Games released in th...
its got some lag spikes, but with a save then soft reset (aka close the game and open it back up again) it can be avoided
white jungle
Haven't got the games but comp is kinda fun
potent pelican
its got some lag spikes, but with a save then soft reset (aka close the game and...
I heard something about performance issues
potent pelican
Ah, no pokémon yet?
night python
not yet
night python
but If it can crawl it can brawl
a couple of frame stutters
Also the beginning cutseen when its going dark everybody t poses
potent pelican
Understandable
shell grail
yes
potent pelican
Welp, can't play til december bc many exams, so hope they improve the performance and stuff
potent pelican
also There's fucking camera controlls???
Yes, pretty sure
night python
I'm just shocked
potent pelican
Y?
night python
after playing mainly the 2d pokemon games for so long
potent pelican
Ah okie
night python
it spooked the hell outof me
potent pelican
Played legends arceus, that one had camera controls too
clear crest
Rabsca or Lokix?
shell grail
lokix
night python
who and whats
potent pelican
Rabsca or Lokix?
Your pfp im crying. Noo, another Pokemon spoil 
clear crest
Your pfp im crying. Noo, another Pokemon spoil <:Despair:850468339955924993> <:D...
Technically not a spoil! It was in the Farigiraf Trailer!
shell grail
yeah
potent pelican
On the minimal?
clear crest
Yea!
shell grail
yes
potent pelican
Yeah, but i couldn't reccognize it so i'm still sad
clear crest
Reeeee mice
clear crest
Yeah, but i couldn't reccognize it so i'm still sad
Sorry man ;×;
potent pelican
Life
clear crest
At least it's not a completely new mon
night python
aright
potent pelican
Should just vacate the internet for 12 days
potent pelican
Probably got like 10+ new mon spoiled already
night python
my partner
shell grail
fuecoco
night python
hm... Weed cat, Crocodill, or daffy the god damn duck
potent pelican
I'm picking fuecoco. But i can give you some hints to the evos if you want (the one thing i deliberately spoiled for myself)
shell grail
fuecoco is best
night python
five bucks says the cat turns anthropomorphic and walks on two legs
am I right or am I right
meager oasis
Your right
shell grail
yes
potent pelican
night python
FUCKING CALLED IT
shell grail
so much porn of it :(
night python
yep
meager oasis
Fuecoco final evo stays on 4 legs and looks like an actual animal surprisingly
night python
I'm picking option four
shell grail
it also gets unaware as a hidden ability
potent pelican
What is that? Death?
shell grail
the box?
potent pelican
Box???
shell grail
i think there is technically 40 pokemon you can get on the first route if that helps
white jungle
I'm just saying
night python
also no fall damage
I'm sorry fucking what
white jungle
Ain't seen a quadrupedal fan Evo that looks any better than Meowscarada
shell grail
you can jump off cliffs and your phone grabs you right b4 you hit the ground
night python
Wat
potent pelican
You want 🟢 ||mascarade cat|| 🔴 ||Spooky Crocodile|| or 🔵 ||flamenco peacock duck||? [Stupid descriptions of last evos. Spoilers obvs]
white jungle
I'll level with y'all it's just kind of a boring Pokémon, I think Meowscarada at least made it more interesting
shell grail
Ain't seen a quadrupedal fan Evo that looks any better than Meowscarada
weed cat was a weird design choice honestly
it gave them nothing cool to work with
white jungle
I just never saw any quadrupedal fan designs which weren't "cat with leaves" so I actually prefer what we got
night python
If I get weed cat can someone give me the other two?
white jungle
Especially the sabertooth tiger ones
Fucking hated those
The Iberian Lynx ones were cool but still just cats with grass fur
potent pelican
Imma trying to not get spoil so imma maybe bail after i hear "sabertooth"
Anyone else has opinions of how the games were so far? Haven't played them, and can't for 2 weeks
white jungle
Tony Stark does die
shell grail
some people hate them others think its getting better
i haven't heard of anyone actually liking it though
night python
what?
shell grail
he asked peoples opinions on the games
night python
oh
potent pelican
Okay imma out, imma not risk getting more spoiled or ruining the game for myself in other ways 
shell grail
see you on the other side 🫡
potent pelican
: )
The opinions i've heard so far aren't as good as i hoped for tho, so kinda bummed
white jungle
Performance issues are the main issue it seems
potent pelican
If thats the case i hope they can fix it in 2 weeks
white jungle
And those, though they should be fine now, can be remedied with time
shell grail
i think its at least better than sword/shield
potent pelican
Was pretty sure it would be
They have a pattern of making more polished games as the secound game on a given console
shell grail
yeah
shell grail
well lets go pikachu/eevee was technically the first games but they were remakes so they don't count
shell grail
so far sv but just because i like open world games
shell grail
i do like alpha ruby and omega sapphire more just because they have nostalgia
potent pelican
Yeah, not as much. Started with dppt and avoided bdsp like the plague
shell grail
yeah i preordered bdsp and regretted a lot
night python
damn
potent pelican
ORAS doesn't look quite right to me, but still kinda fun. Rather wanna try Emerald on hardware.
night python
aright... I need help...
shell grail
how so
tropic carbon
i cant find pooper :(
shell grail
look in ponds
tropic carbon
ok
white jungle
Oh I just had the best moment ever
shell grail
shiny?
white jungle
No on showdown
shell grail
ok
white jungle
I swapped Cyclizar out with shed tail into Iron Thorns, opponent went from Corviknight to Avalugg letting me get off a dragon dance, I went for a second dance and they busted my substitute while swapping to Fighting with their tera type
I just happened to be running a flying tera Iron Thorns with tera blast to dodge earthquakes
white jungle
Dude would have walled me just fine but my Godzilla was an aeroplane
shell grail
ha
white jungle
I can already tell terrastalising is gonna lead to some overly predictive bs that'll be so fun to watch
shell grail
can all showdown pokemon use terrastalising or just ones from paldea?
white jungle
can all showdown pokemon use terrastalising or just ones from paldea?
All
shell grail
oh
valid beacon
shedinja is not in the game
shell grail
talking about showdown......
valid beacon
ah
inner relic
i remember hearing that Salamence was Violet exlcusive, so when i get enough money to get it i'll get that cuz miraidon is cooler than kiraidon and also salamence
shell grail
yea it is exclusive
inner relic
my favorite pokemon is salamence, so violet is my pick
inner relic
im trying to find Kiraidon which i know is the wrong spelling so i can see it's type
shell grail
inner relic
that looks so epic
shell grail
yeah
inner relic
is it still a dragon type?
inner relic
i like that type a lot better than dragon flying
shell grail
||https://pokemondb.net/pokedex/roaring-moon|| link for bulbapedia page
it has no preevolutions btw
inner relic
oh i was searching up salamence thinking it was a game exclusive regional variant
shell grail
no
salamence bagon and shelgon are violet exclusive
while roaring moon is scarlet exclusive
inner relic
they wont show the full pokedex because warning about the gen 9 being new
no im trying to look at it's typing in pokemon.db
shell grail
https://www.nintendolife.com/guides/pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-pokedex-complete-paldea-pokedex-all-pokemon-locations this should be it
inner relic
so it's koraidon
shell grail
ok
shell grail
ok
tawny willow
scarlet or violet?
clear crest
Violet
tawny willow
why?
clear crest
I found a raid one but it was too high level
So I went to outside the second town and found one
tropic carbon
my third gym is lvl 43 and my teams high is 30
tawny willow
i have decided on violet
frail fox
anyone have a list of nonstandard evolution methods that doesn't spoil what the evolutions are?
tawny willow
one needs to lvl up in a multiplayer session
tawny willow
depends. do you have friends?
frail fox
it would be irrelevant as I can't play online
tawny willow
there are a few that evolve after 1000 steps in lets go mode
frail fox
but anyway basically im looking for a list of things that evolve by stone or other method besides levling up so I dont just try to level them up to evolve them
tawny willow
oh. one new mon evolves with a fire stone
frail fox
these aren't particularly helpful without knowing which ones
tawny willow
you didnt want spoilers
frail fox
I meant without knowing what they evolve into
tawny willow
oh then the pepper evolves with a fire stone (i forgot the name)
frail fox
I guess I'll just look up a list and not worry about it cause being told one by one won't be useful to consult later
tawny willow
||dunsparce|| evolves by leveling up with a new move called ||hyper drill||
frail fox
like just by using the move?
wait nvm you said leveling up with the move
ah, ||finizen|| is the multiplayer one. Damn, I was using that. Into the trash it goes
tawny willow
speaking of just using a move thats how ||primape|| evolves.
you have to use a specific move over and over again until it evolves
topaz narwhal
||does squawkabilly evolve?||
tawny willow
||no||
tawny willow
what was the point of that
you can craft them very easily.
prime topaz
great. that doesn't explain why they changed it
night python
yeah, that's the only time I can accept it
cause its technicaly infinint
just need the materials
prime topaz
taking something endless to make it less convient to use by making it limited but then also making getting more of them really easy is jsut wasting the player's time
like, at least commit to it if you want it to be limited
frail fox
Also in case anyone doesnt know, you can press the right stick in during battles to turn on a cinematic cam more like the 2D games, and it jumps around to show when pokemon are using moves and stuff. Doesnt work on some uneven terrain but I like to use it as often as possible
tawny willow
why is there a lot of stuff in the new games that only work in 2v2?
bronze pawn
Doodle moment
prime topaz
why is there a lot of stuff in the new games that only work in 2v2?
vgc is the official format for competitive pokemon
which is 2v2
tawny willow
im sure @frail fox would
gloomy inlet
sepaking of ||paradox||, I'm laughing at ||Iron Valiant|| 🤣🤣🤣 that boy ||get fairy typing again || @patent rivet
bronze pawn
Anyone who wants to join
Link code is 7DWPTK
I'll brb
Well I'm back and no one is here
polar fable
I think i softlocked myself
bronze pawn
How?
tawny willow
Well I'm back and no one is here
most likely because its on a timer
bronze pawn
Are you in a wall
tawny willow
I think i softlocked myself
just teleport to a pokecenter
polar fable
just teleport to a pokecenter
Wait You can do that ?
tawny willow
yes?
polar fable
UPS i just reseted
tawny willow
UPS i just reseted
RIP
polar fable
Ok sure
patent rivet
sepaking of ||paradox||, I'm laughing at ||Iron Valiant|| 🤣🤣🤣 that boy ||get ...
What?
bronze pawn
Link code is 7DWPTK
The link code is still the same
I wish it was possible to just make a group public yknow?
polar fable
Ok give me a sec what botón to tp to a center
polar fable
Ok thanks
polar fable
The link code says is 4 numbers?
bronze pawn
What
gloomy inlet
What?
Kirlia loses his fairy typing when evolve into Gallade, and ||iron valiant|| which is like, maybe it's indeed a ||Paradox|| Gallade gets his ||Fairy typing again||
polar fable
bronze pawn
Kirlia loses his fairy typing when evolve into Gallade, and ||iron valiant|| whi...
Loses his ||psychic typing though||
gloomy inlet
Loses his ||psychic typing though||
yep
polar fable
Ok
polar fable
Your code still didnt work tho
bronze pawn
I left
bronze pawn
polar fable
NT5P4T
patent rivet
Kirlia loses his fairy typing when evolve into Gallade, and ||iron valiant|| whi...
||Since it’s fairy/fighting and looks like both Gardevoir and Gallade, pretty sure it’s a fusion of them both||
I think I’m fine with TMs being single use as long as you can get multiple of them
I always didn’t use TMs in gen 4 and below since I was always worried I would use it on the wrong Pokémon or get a better move later and replace it, meaning I wasted the TM
bronze pawn
How do I ride ||Miraidon?||
polar fable
Need to advance the story
polar fable
Come to the door
gloomy inlet
heavy zenith
These people really halt me mid-air to tell me go to the front door like a decent person
polar fable
She teramstalized
I had the wooper and how terasta only knows thunder shock si it did nothing
polar fable
Ok that story stuff takes a while gonna be around the city
tropic carbon
are trade evos still a thing?
polar fable
I think still to early to know, i could get a scaterbug and trade for one tho
bronze pawn
I am getting major ||villian vibes from Mr. Clavell||
polar fable
Really with mommys boy arven aptitud i figure it's the profesor
bronze pawn
I mean the way he talks about ||Team Star after eavesdropping||
The professor looks like he invests in nfts
polar fable
So did you disconected por is because your in the biilding that i can't see you in the map
Nvm i can see you now
mellow crane
I fought that rival and moment she was about to throw out the electric type Pokémon I was like yea new wooper go brrt
She couldn’t do any damage on me cause she kept trying to use thunder shock after terastalizing
bronze pawn
Finally I can ride dragon man
polar fable
Ups
patent rivet
I'll probably get Violet if I decide to get the game to contrast my friend getting Scarlet
Also I just like the bike lizard more than the sack lizard
polar fable
But caveman milf
magic narwhal
But caveman milf
Counter argument, Gigachad dilf
patent rivet
Since when did any adult woman become a milf even if they don't have the proportions nor children
polar fable
Counter argument, Gigachad dilf
The other guy is better and i don't think he is versions exclusive
polar fable
Since when did any adult woman become a milf even if they don't have the proport...
She is literally a mother
bronze pawn
Counter argument, Gigachad dilf
He literally invests in nfts
mellow crane
So u actually ride the legendary Pokémon as yur bike?
polar fable
Yup
bronze pawn
Yea
mellow crane
Ok thnx good to know
polar fable
Pretty early 2
magic narwhal
And as shown in trailer, as well as your boat and plane
patent rivet
So does the other professor show up any time in the other game?
polar fable
And as shown in trailer, as well as your boat and plane
I have only unlock the dash but yes
polar fable
So does the other professor show up any time in the other game?
Don't know yet
bronze pawn
How do I unlock the dash?
tropic carbon
do you still have to trade for scizor
viscid adder
...i think that a double fusion for this boy is appropriate now.
polar fable
No miraidon has to eat a sandwich actually
viscid adder
bronze pawn
No miraidon has to eat a sandwich actually
You're kidding
polar fable
Atleast koraidon does miraidon can probably get a battery charger or something
bronze pawn
Well
magic narwhal
A new finding/Slight spoiler warning: ||I just found a shadowy stake dug into the ground. It gave me an option to pull it out and when I did it crumbled and vanished. This could be a potential legendary/mythical hunt||
heavy zenith
Anyone else really like the pokeball animations for raids
bronze pawn
A new finding/Slight spoiler warning: ||I just found a shadowy stake dug into th...
Plot twist: ||Ceruledge||
magic narwhal
Nah Miraidon eats a sandwich too
Also I've gotten lost several times even with the mini map. I have started running into pokemon several levels above me. Caught them too
heavy zenith
Anyone find a shiny yet?
polar fable
Nope
magic narwhal
If I did I ran past it. In this game you don't get the shiny noise from afar like Legends so you have to have a real good eye
viscid adder
Just got psychic tera shroodle
Ooooh
sick
you get to fight against your weaknesses with ease
magic narwhal
Gather 999
bronze pawn
Uh no
pine swan
after you gather 999 it evolves
magic narwhal
That is not a joke that is how many is needed for what it is for
bronze pawn
You're shitting me
patent rivet
You need 999 to evolve it
viscid adder
don't worry! it's not hard!
lament glen
some dudes give 60 coins at once
viscid adder
chests give you 10 to even up to 60 coins
magic narwhal
You can find chests to catch the pokemon itself for more coins
magic narwhal
Meanwhile I'm still trying to find out how to check my coin total
viscid adder
Meanwhile I'm still trying to find out how to check my coin total
item bag
ingredients
every time you beat a pokemon, you get some stuff from them.
that stuff is used to craft TMs and other items
magic narwhal
Ah I see them now. And my goodness I got 56 from one chest alone
magic narwhal
Googling that description got me Pawniard
bronze pawn
Yeah
heavy zenith
Is it that fire one
bronze pawn
Tinkatink
patent rivet
It’s pretty weird that the tumbleweed Pokémon isn’t single stage I would say
bronze pawn
I got a fighting type tera in a raid
viscid adder
It’s pretty weird that the tumbleweed Pokémon isn’t single stage I would say
DUDE HE'S GOTTA ROLL
HE'S GOTTA TUMBLE AND EAT SOULS
bronze pawn
What type is the coin man
magic narwhal
Plot twist: ||Ceruledge|| <:doge_smile:976798188411432990>
Update: ||I found another one this time with a golden glow. You may be onto something||
bronze pawn
Would tera leafage kill it
patent rivet
What type is the coin man
Ghost, then evolve to steel/ghost
bronze pawn
Pure ghost?
patent rivet
Gimmighoul is
magic narwhal
Ooh I found a cracked pot. Sinistea is an option
patent rivet
It would be neutral effective
magic narwhal
If you do kill it, it's still gonna get you coins
bronze pawn
It did about half
Over half
I have no way to lower it withiut killing it now
Since bite is 2x and scratch is 0
patent rivet
Spam balls
viscid adder
well of course the latter is zero
bronze pawn
Dusk ball didn't work
viscid adder
normal type moves do jack on a ghost
viscid adder
Dusk ball didn't work
bronze pawn
What's the point of the coins if you don't have one to evolve
viscid adder
....unless you're planning to catch it
bronze pawn
viscid adder
the fu-?
bronze pawn
No para moves
viscid adder
oh... kay then
bronze pawn
Nope
viscid adder
confusion?