pokemon-winds-waves

[white jungle]

Shiny Vivillon not being used 🥹 great shiny and maybe the strongest early bug Mon because of the same quiver dance compound eyes setup as Butterfree

I get it though

And I respect the ||Tarountula|| use I think ||Spidops|| is way overhated 🔥🔥

[lament glen]

Vivillon is also the most epic bug type

But shinies are cringe so I get why you wouldn't use it 🙏

[fossil cliff]

@quiet frost So let me tell you about ||Annihilape||.

[lament glen]

I like the Nier Automata/Astral Plain/Tower of God music playing in the background

[fossil cliff]

||It's Primape's evolution, and it's a Ghost/Fighting type.||

[white jungle]

Honestly I think ||paradox Genesect|| is a real missed opportunity here. We could have gotten it's ||many-million-year-old original form|| and an ||upgraded form from the future when a future organisation essentially upgrades Team Plasma's design||

[fossil cliff]

Good point.

[quiet frost]

Ohhhhh

[lament glen]

thats still a spoiler, dont post that without the tag

[fossil cliff]

Oh.

How do I do it?

[lament glen]

| two of these at the beginning and end of the message

[white jungle]

||I also low-key would have preferred Paradox Druddigon to Paradox Hydreigon. Don't get me wrong, I love Hydreigon, and I don't hate Iron Jugulis (especially given that it's whole colour scheme turns off when it's asleep) but Iron Jugulis made the balance of pseudo legends off (future has two, past only has one) and I think Druddigon could have had some real potential with a future form||

||Iron Scales||

||Plus Hydreigon is right up there with Hariyama regarding Pokémon who would benefit from the stat boost of a paradox form. It would have been a direct gain, as opposed to Iron Jugulis who is actually weaker in total than Hydreigon (though as has been stated multiple times, the pseudos mainly lose numbers in their Dump Stats)||

[clear crest]

Hey guys I gotta ask; can I make my boy character look like a girl, with eyelashes and everything?

Or vice versa?

[vestal aurora]

probably yes

[white jungle]

||From what I've heard, all customisation options are universal with the exception of a "style" which acts like this games Male or Female option.||

||That said, the leaker who originally gave that info seemed to think it also effected pronouns? Which would just make it the male or female option with a different name? So who fucking knows||

||I haven't seen anyone talk about it who has the game yet||

[clear crest]

||I think they called it "style" cause calling it "select your pronouns" would be confusing for kids.||

[white jungle]

||Yeah but it doesn't make it any difference from what they normally do. At best, they just aren't saying "gender" anymore. Which is fine, but if they're that conscious about it why not just make it like Animal Crossing?||

||I don't actually know if it's true that style = pronouns but that's just what we learned from a leaker a while back, like I said I haven't heard anything from any players||

[clear crest]

||Probably because every one who wants the game early is doing it for the pokemon||

||While i just want the gameplay for customisation||

[white jungle]

||Well the best I can say is you'll get open customisation, it just depends on whether that includes eyelashes and stuff||

[timid tulip]

||it looks like a roblox model||

[fickle birch]

||Pawmot's revival move works with Leppa Berries, you can do it twice.||

[vestal aurora]

||you can do it more times with recycle ||

||it probably doesn't learn it tho||

[lament glen]

||Does it revive to full health or half health tho? Cuz if it's half health, that move is absolutely not worth it ||

[compact sequoia]

||oh god, imagine a recycle stall strat Pawmot just spam-reviving the rest of the team each time you knock them out||

||the meta would actually crap itself and die.||

[odd cave]

||half health||

[lament glen]

Yeah I don't see that being too great then

[shell grail]

it does not have recycle

[white jungle]

||You're underestimating priority attackers and sweeper Mon||

[lament glen]

||Sweepers are good in the late game when you've already delt with all their counters. Idk if throwing them in early to have them die and then waste your time to revive it is that worth it||

[white jungle]

||I would disagree, powerful sweepers have been used before to weaken with one and then finish with another, like Salamence and Rayquaza. This revive move will potentially let you do that with one Mon, especially flying and steel types who are unaffected by the prevalence of toxic spikes||

[lament glen]

Epic olive guy fusion

[vestal aurora]

monke

[cinder stratus]

Cool

[vestal aurora]

my game is downloading

can't wait to play

[viscid adder]

||would love to see all the animations of the mons||

[lament glen]

@viscid adder

[viscid adder]

||that's just the mons.
I want to see the mons move.||

[lament glen]

They do move in the vid

[vestal aurora]

game is downloaded just have to wait till midnight to play it

[lament glen]

Just only their idle animations

[lament glen]

Collecting physically > ruining your sleeping scedule and not obtaining anything physical

[vestal aurora]

the thing is

i already had it preordered just didn't download it sooner

[viscid adder]

i want to see them attacking

[vestal aurora]

and now i was like "since the australians can play it i'm sure i can as well"

but boy was i wrong

[lament glen]

You can change your region to australia I'm pretty sure

[viscid adder]

||I'M LAUGHING SO HARD AT DUDUNSPARCE'S CRY||

||IT'S LITERALLY THE CRY BUT EXTENDED||

[vestal aurora]

||so is the mon ||

[viscid adder]

||THIS IS THE GREATEST TROLLING EFFORT EVER||

[vestal aurora]

doesn't work lmao, probably would if i did it before the purchase

[viscid adder]

||DAMN SHE'S TALL||

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwziSjQwteA||

[fickle birch]

Love it! ❤️

Reviews are out, apparently the game performs awfully. 😦

[lament glen]

I mean... did you see the windmills in the first trailer 😂

You can literally stand next to them and they run at 3fps

[fickle birch]

Yeah but I don't care about that comparatively, I care about battle animations having 5-second pauses. 😮

[vestal aurora]

I can't speak for myself quite yet but from the streams i've seen the game doesn't perform that bad

It actually is better than i expected

[shell grail]

i heard the reason the trailers are laggy is because they release the trailers when the japanese game is ready and the english one is usually a bit behind and thats why its laggy

but the japanese trailers are a lot lesss laggy from what ive heard

[urban owl]

If the streams are fine, the game is fine

A stream wouldnt hide the issues, it would make it worse

If anything, they could have patched it already

[lament glen]

It did ran pretty bad in the streams I saw

The game is just not polished

At all

[urban owl]

Whine more, just have fun

Stop nerding out about frames and have fun

[lament glen]

Because they release 2 games per year instead of taking their time to make one that is actually finished

[lament glen]

[urban owl]

GAME IS GAME

Have fun

[lament glen]

I can have fun with an unpolished game and still call it out for running like shit my guy xD

Chill out

[urban owl]

.>

no

[lament glen]

There are enough switch games that prove that a game like this could run super smooth, but the truth simply is that Gamfreak is not willing to put in the time to make a game of that standard

It is how it is 🤷‍♂️

I will still have fun with this, but it will always be a bumer to me to think about how much more pokemon on switch could be

[fickle birch]

And they're still going to make an absolute fortune. 😦

That's why they get away with it. 😢

If I were Nintendo, I'd step in and tell them to sort their act out, because it ultimately reflects badly on their brand. 😦

[urban owl]

It really doesnt

It only does if people whine and complain

When its NOT THAT BAD

[fickle birch]

It is that bad though. 😅

[urban owl]

Its not tho

.>

like, its bearable

its not horrible

[fickle birch]

There are seemingly several second-long pauses between choosing a move, the move playing, the wait for the menu to appear. That is inexcusable. 😦

[urban owl]

You are inexcusable

:p

Jesus, waiting one second isnt horrible

Why do you all act like it is

[lament glen]

That should never be your standard for a piece of art that you're trying to sell to people

[fickle birch]

Sonic Frontiers might have bad pop-in, but it plays smoothly, so it's ultimately harmless. That game was made for a fraction of the budget of SV. 😅

[odd cave]

Didnt that also happen on swsh?

[fickle birch]

Especially not when it's a criticism your games have had since 2016. 😅

[fickle birch]

Not to anywhere near this extent, no. It's really, really bad. 😦

[lament glen]

Isn't this the exact reason why so many people hate Diamond and Pearl?

[urban owl]

No, thats a five minute wait dingus

[fickle birch]

I don't hate DP, but they sure are slow.

[urban owl]

And unlike diamond and pearl, this will get fixed

[lament glen]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[urban owl]

Not everything has to be 5/5 day one. A few seconds isnt a huge deal to most people

[fickle birch]

If this gets fixed, I'm Batman. 😛

The extent people go to in order to defend this shoddy, hacky company continues to amaze me. 😦

[odd cave]

IMO the quality might be bad but as long as i enjoy the game im okay with it

[fickle birch]

I'm spending £50 on this, I want it to not run like crap. 😂

[urban owl]

The extent people go to complain about small, inconsequential details amazes me to

I dont get why you have to complain, when you are going to have fun anyway

I really dont

[lament glen]

Bro

[urban owl]

A few seconds frame delay is not, "running like crap"

[fickle birch]

It is though. 😂

[lament glen]

If I play a 6/10 game I might have fun... but I can still complain about the stuff that holds it back from being a 9 or 10/10

[urban owl]

your standards are shit

[fickle birch]

An RPG should be buttery smooth. 😅

[fickle birch]

No, they're high. 😂

[lament glen]

Do you speak german? I could link you some great technical analysis of why the shading and lighting and everything else in terms of technical aspects of the games is abolutely horrible xD

[urban owl]

You try running hundreds of thousands of polygons on something that is something largely like an xbox 360

[fickle birch]

Dragon Quest XI. 🙂

Digimon Cyber Sleuth is a PSP game that looks and runs better. 😄

[urban owl]

idc anymore

[lament glen]

Xenoblade 3, Astral Chain, Dragon Quest 11, BotW

[fickle birch]

Super Mario Odyssey has wide, open worlds and no lag. 🙂

[urban owl]

these are hyour dogcrap opinions and standards

No one needs to listen to bs criticisms and just have fun

[lament glen]

We're not telling you to not have fun

[fickle birch]

Don't refer to people's criticisms as such just because you disagree with them. 😦

I'm still going to have fun with the game, but I can acknowledge that it's not going to be a good game. 😅

[broken knot]

The final evolutions for the starters a kinda dissapointing

[fickle birch]

They really should optimise the games, though. 😦

[fickle birch]

Any more talk on these needs to be spoilered. 😮

[broken knot]

Fuecoco is the only that looks decent to me

[lament glen]

All in all I find them much better than the gen 8 ones personally

But yea xD

[broken knot]

I mean I'm not showing them

But like you can look em up

[fickle birch]

I do too, by a wide margin. 🙂

||Quaquaval is one of my favourite Pokémon of all time already.|| 😄

[urban owl]

Its not just disagreeing with them. Complaining to complain isnt productive when you are going to have fun anyway. If you wanna talk crap about something, at least try to be productive about it. Just saying "I wIsH tHe GaMe WaS mOrE oPtImIzEd" is a pennyless observation when literally they understand this isnt great and will most likely fix it. Many games have day one patches for a reason, and this is no different

[broken knot]

||He looks like a Looney Toons character||

[urban owl]

Asking for perfection is literally a waste of time. Very few things are perfect without the rose-tinted glasses

Everyone has criticisms about something. Doesnt mean you need to dogpile it continually and make it seem like its really bad for such a small thing

[lament glen]

Ah, just like how they fixed the SwSh wild area

[fickle birch]

They're not going to fix it, the game is already out in Australia and no such patch has came out. And it is productive. "This thing is fun, but could have actually been so much better" is valid. I don't know how old you are, but it's something that you learn after years of seeing your favourite franchise gutted to become a shell of its former self. 😦

Less content, bad visuals, awful performance and poor decisions are not something people should just sit down and accept, and it's naïve to shut down these valid criticisms in the hopes that a fix is coming when it never will. 😅

SM's lag was meant to get fixed, got worse in USUM, SwSh was laggy and badly animated, BDSP had atrocious collision, and Legends might have been a step forward, but still had some issues. It seems that we're taking an immediate and large step backwards though. 😦

[lament glen]

And at least content wise the games have been moving in the right direction since Arceus now. It's really just the technical aspects that are lagging behind so much currently that it makes it difficult for the evolution that is going on (be it slowly and in way to many little steps) to be exciting

[odd cave]

Wait people had lag with swsh?

[fickle birch]

True. Game Freak is very much a one step forward and two step back scenario. 😦

[lament glen]

The wild area was laggy, empty, flat, bland... every bad adjective you can think of xD

[fickle birch]

N64 trees. 😂

[lament glen]

Oh, already forgot about those xD

Maybe I need to rehearse my talking points

[odd cave]

I liked the concept tho

[lament glen]

It was an open world at least... just in the worst way imaginable

[odd cave]

Nah not really that much

[spare roost]

you know, a game targetted to kids who can't tell if there are issues and just want to see Pikachu

they only need it to look passable to kids

not to the adult audience who still plays

[odd cave]

For some reason i liked swsh (except the story is fucked up)

[fickle birch]

To anyone who has played the game, ||are Koraidon and Miraidon considered Paradox Pokémon?|| 😮

[odd cave]

||for what i know they are the paradox form of cyclizar but they are considered legendaries||

[fickle birch]

Have you played the game? 😮

[lament glen]

From my understanding ||they are as much paradox mons as Solgaleo and Lunala are ultra beasts||... well yes but actually no but also kinda yes

[limpid depot]

||So yes in lore but no in a meta sense ||

[quiet frost]

I get the game today

[supple fern]

I hope I get the game tomorrow if Mother Nature is merciful to our roads.

[lament glen]

What is mother nature threatening to do with your roads?

[fickle birch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDTiZoWWvG8

https://twitter.com/Cherrim/status/1593292235222978560?t=CtQdP_mVZLmPm1gmQl2iKQ&s=19

cherrim @ pkmn scarlet (@Cherrim)

oof the reviews arent kidding about the terrible performance
#PokemonScarletViolet #NintendoSwitch

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I'm not entirely sure if this is true, but if it is, it's atrocious. 😮

It could be a Sonic Colours Ultimate situation of people emulating the game and then going "oh no, things went wrong" when it was because of emulation instead of the actual game. If it is on real hardware though, that's bad and anyone defending it is denying the truth. 😦

[somber girder]

For paradox pokemon, can you get multiple? Or is it a one off with no breeding/duplicates?

[icy forge]

Can somebody tell me If Ciclyzar is catchable early?

[vestal aurora]

I think pretty much any pokemon is catchable early you just need to get done with the introduction part

[supple fern]

Snowstorms

[fickle birch]

Does anyone have access to the Pokédex entries for SV? Please, I need them for work. 😂

[vestal aurora]

I think centro had them

Not sure what happened to them

[fickle birch]

Centro's dead now though. 😦

[vestal aurora]

I know

That's why i said what i said

[fickle birch]

https://pastebin.com/KiGpcbAK Found them! 😄

Obviously, don't click if you don't want spoilers.

[vestal aurora]

Do you want violet as well?

So you can compare them

[fickle birch]

Ideally, yeah. 🙂

[icy forge]

You can see them in Serebii too

[fickle birch]

Oh, the Pokédex entries for the Paradox forms are actually kind of nothing.

[quiet frost]

No…No..NO!

[alpine sandal]

Have a summary of pokedex entries: "Everything in this universe is horrible and terrifying and should not be given to small children"

[quiet frost]

I forgot Pokémon Scarlet and Violet realized today

[fickle birch]

Tomorrow. 😛

Unless you're an Aussie. 😮

Oh they're out in Japan too now. 😄

[vestal aurora]

For us gmt folks we still have to wait 4h20m

[quiet frost]

Oh wait, it’s at the 18th, Well that’s a relief, anyways I’m still placing bricks on Sprigatito so it won’t stand on two feet!

I also couldn’t watch YouTube because of the “leaks” but I’m surprised I haven’t seen a leak so far.

[river nova]

i know that feel ive watched everything on the internet through a straw basically :I

[fickle birch]

I have to wait until tomrorow morning because I'm going to collect my physical copy. 😢

[quiet frost]

I also wish for some Pokémon to get some new evolutions like Primeape or the new pikachu clone of Paldea, Pawmi because that would spice something up!

But the reason why I want Primeape to get a new evolution is because he got the short stick of Mega, Alolan, Galarian and Gigantamax forms

Because it’s been kinda… ignored

And it’s maybe on my Top 20 Pokémon…

[shell grail]

Top 20 pokemon does not need to be spoilered

[somber girder]

||I can't tell if he knows or not||

[timid tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/mutt-clump-skull-gif-25258416

[white jungle]

Y'know

||Bramblin should be grass/bug I think. Or ghost/bug.||

||Because it looks like a dead spider||

||And a tumbelweed/curled up dead spider design would have been super smart||

[shell grail]

||i wish it had better base stats because i would like to use it on my team :(||

[somber girder]

||it does have good stats though? Also think it having ghost and grass is perfectly appropriate||

[pastel lark]

the pokemon 1000 is good, lets goooo

HOLY SHIT, wtf is this dex entry

[forest egret]

||ye it presumably does that for its metal. The prevo makes its hammer from Pawniard parts||

[clear crest]

oh it is BAD. it's fucking atrocious, even.

but it makes sense.

essentially

it's loading the unloaded map, which is known to be laggy for this game

[lament glen]

I think stuff like this will be rare, but the game is just so unpolished that it will happen from time to time

[white jungle]

Relatable Pokémon

[clear crest]

oh shit

the brawns to the brain

[viscid adder]

||This little mother honker is the mastermind||

[lament glen]

||How does their team up ability stuff work exactly?||

[lament glen]

Sounds cool

[clear crest]

OH SHIT

[lament glen]

Very gimmicky, but cool

[clear crest]

I'VE ALWAYS WANTED A MECHA POKEMON :O

[viscid adder]

||You hear that? This bird likes droppin' eggs!||

[clear crest]

||so THIS explains the random fucking curry ingredients that are dropped on people's heads constantly!!||

[viscid adder]

||look, but don't touch.||

[clear crest]

||why can't I touch the forbidden blueberry ice stick||

||answer me before I die by touching glimmora pls||

[clear crest]

||I still don't get it||

[viscid adder]

||https://nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/0549.pdf||

read. for your health.

[clear crest]

ooooooh

so don't eat

got it

..but it looks so tasty :c

[clear crest]

...

https://tenor.com/view/scran-scrannin-come-dine-with-me-eat-eating-gif-18952055

[viscid adder]

||man... imagine munchlax being in the game.
that would make things.... very awkward.||

||awwww...||

||he's not evil! he just wants people to take him seriously!||

[lament glen]

This line does so little to me, it's impressive. I've never even bothered to look at the final evo for more than a second and I don't think I ever will. Might as well be air to me

[clear crest]

vore

[viscid adder]

||i love that in violet, these mon have been going around in gossip/sci-fi magazines||

[lament glen]

1 morbillion years ago

https://tenor.com/view/im-coming-dr-michael-morbius-jared-leto-morbius-im-on-my-way-gif-25269333

[viscid adder]

||hmmm... actually... it got me thinking
what was the pokemon world like a billion years ago?
...and magneton existed for 10,000 years.
....
I HAVE THEORY||

||What if some of these pokemon are the results of Pokemon falling into Space-Time distortions... and their mutations and adaptions are from their time in that period?
After all, Magnemite and Magneton didn't exist in the Hisui years. They only appeared in Space-Time distortions.||

||...a new mon?||

||oh, and in scarlet, the paranormal magazine goes on the prowl for the robots||

[fickle birch]

||They're reportedly from alternate pasts.|| 🙂

[viscid adder]

||STILL, IT'S NUTS
also... GHOSTLY PTEROSAUR???||

[meager oasis]

||I wonder what the 2nd dex means of the salamence||

[viscid adder]

||EITHER THIS GUY IS HOLDING SECRETS, OR WE GOT OURSELVES A NEW MON!||

[viscid adder]

||mega evolution||

||I'm guessing in an alternate prehistoric Hoenn... mega evolution radiation was rampant||

[meager oasis]

||Oh right I forgot mega evolution existed||

[viscid adder]

||which makes me think about what other prehistoric mega mon are in that timeline...||

||maybe it's a permanent primal reversion.||

||....GOD IT'S SO NUTS THAT THINGS ARE JUST COMING TOGETHER||

||I'm betting gogoat would love licking the salt golem||

[white jungle]

Am I the only one who wishes Koraidon was Dragon/Flying?

||"winged king"... Make it winged then? Not just... It's eyebrows.||

[white jungle]

I still think Koraidon should have been a reference to riding animals and not resembled a motorbike full stop

[lament glen]

Why does it have no evo chain? 🤨

[white jungle]

It's flying from shouldn't be a transformation it should just be skin between it's forelegs and back legs, like actual lizards

[viscid adder]

||gotta have connections to cyclizar tho||

[viscid adder]

serbeii bug

HOLY SH--

hang on hang on

[lament glen]

Seen that

[lament glen]

||Didnt even know mons could follow you before earlier today. They probably showed in a trailer, but it didnt stick with me||

[meager oasis]

||Lifts a cruise ship with one fin dear god||

[white jungle]

WHERE ARE THE POWER SCALERS FOR ||PALAFIN||

[white jungle]

||Chadmon||

[meager oasis]

||It’s a shame that tinkatuff has a poor stat distribution but that’s probably to balance it since it has op typing||

[viscid adder]

||Shazam dolphin my beloved||

[white jungle]

||Honestly I think Palafin is up there with Slither Wing for favourite Pokémon of this gen||

||And Slither Wing is my favourite Pokémon of all time||

||So that's saying something||

[viscid adder]

||wow palafin really grew on you!||

||I liked it ever since I learned about its transformation gimmick||

[meager oasis]

||I think my favourite pokemon from this game so far is espathra||

[white jungle]

||The fact that you get to have both the goofy hero as well as the cute dolphin really made it way better for me||

||Not to mention it's eyes seem to be closed in the main leak I saw||

||Which made it look way goofier||

[forest egret]

||My favourite from this game is definitely Tinkaton||

[white jungle]

||Honestly it doesn't quite appeal to me||

||I like it don't get me wrong but it's nothing I haven't seen in a Kirby game I guess||

||Plus WHAT a missed opportunity to give a Mon Huge Power. It could have had a ridiculous attack stat with it just for shits and giggles||

||Should have slipped it through while everyone was gawking at Palafin||

[meager oasis]

||Espathra has a really nice design||

[viscid adder]

Maybe a pokemon that's like atom ant?

smol but mighty?

[forest egret]

||Its attack stat is low to offset the fact it has one of the most broken moves in the game||

[meager oasis]

||And typing||

[white jungle]

||I prefer it's shiny honestly, I don't like the yellow so much||

||But it's a super solid ostrich Pokémon design||

[forest egret]

Mhm, but ||it's defensive stats aren't too bad are they||

[meager oasis]

||I also really like glimmora||

||Cool rock/poison plant||

[forest egret]

||Glimmora and Espartha are both pretty cool yeah||

||I also like Lokix a lot||

[viscid adder]

||glimmora is based off this:||

||and possibly deadly nightshades||

[forest egret]

I know

I do read the channels in this server

||It's a pretty cool idea, a deadly rock plant||

[viscid adder]

yeah doughnut's currently dead

but they'll get better

[forest egret]

||He eated the rock||

[viscid adder]

||yeah||

[clear crest]

no I'm not

sadly

[viscid adder]

OH MAN HE LIVES

..wait. no that doesn't make sense

you ate copper sulfate

you should've died

...unless...

...

OH SNAP DOHNUT'S A ZOMBIE

[clear crest]

nah

I think I just ate the wrong thing

[viscid adder]

oh

[clear crest]

luckily

[forest egret]

||You know, I figured we had moved beyond the Beedrill/Butterfree style of early route bugs that are useless, but Spidops is just kinda pathetic and that's sad||

[clear crest]

although

it was very cold

[white jungle]

Someone animate the Omniman Vs Mark scene with ||Palafin|| and like... Either it's trainer, or a Riolu or something

In fact just give us a Mystery Dungeon with a ||Palafin|| based on Omniman

[clear crest]

||it's not THAT pathetic.||

[viscid adder]

||I was planning on writing a short silver aged styled comic with Palafin fighting one of the dark four!||

[viscid adder]

||Yeah! He's solid snake! but replace snake with spider!
HE'S SOLID SPIDER!||

[clear crest]

||hey dumb question, do you think there will be sorta "weaker" villains? if so, could we get like, lokix as one?||

||like, just as cameos to introduce the hero?||

[forest egret]

||No I love his design I'm just saying like, stat and ability wise he's pretty much beedrill/butterfree tier||

[viscid adder]

||OH YEAH!
THAT WOULD TOTALLY WORK!
A lokix stealing some crops!
Thanks bro!||

[white jungle]

||Fucking STAKEOUT?||

[clear crest]

||no problem, man!||

[white jungle]

||Suck my balls Gamefreak, I wanted Spidops on my team||

[viscid adder]

||It's not about the stats, it's about your moves and abilities!||

[clear crest]

||doesn't mean it's bad!||

[white jungle]

||HOW IS IT SO SLOW IT'S A SPIDER||

[lament glen]

Not every mon should be super epic competitively viable. I like using weaker mons

[white jungle]

||The only decent move it gets is fucking sticky web||

[white jungle]

Use unevolved ones then, ||Spidops|| is pretty unforgivable for a final evolution.

[clear crest]

||Shadow Claw? U-Turn? LEECH LIFE?!||

[viscid adder]

SDFPAAAAAAHAHAHAHA

[white jungle]

Pokémon should fit a niche of some kind

[clear crest]

||IT GETS FUCKING POISON JAB BRO||

[clear crest]

blazeburn lmao

[forest egret]

||The last 2 bug bros weren't competitively viable either, I really don't care if a mon is OU tier or not, and I'm not sure wht you keep bring that up. I like it when they have just a little something about them to offer is all.||

[white jungle]

||It can't capitalise on those man, it's not strong enough to||

[lament glen]

Well I still like to evolve mons lmao

If all mons were equally strong, it would be boring. Don't you dare try to take my Kricketune tier mons away from me

[clear crest]

that's quitter talk.

[meager oasis]

Yeaaa that was a bit disappointing :( I would be fine with it having a low BST but this is johto level of low

[white jungle]

Even if you like weaker Mons it's ridiculous to have so many of one type be worthless

[lament glen]

Eh 🤷‍♂️

[clear crest]

look, I get that you're thinking competitively

but there's one thing you're forgetting to mention

[forest egret]

I think ||Spidops|| design is rad as hell btw

[clear crest]

THAT'S A FUCKIN BALLER DESIGN

[white jungle]

I'm not, ||Spidops|| is bad from a casual sense

[meager oasis]

Same except the face is weird but I love the pre evo

[forest egret]

||A spider who's a spool thread and a spec ops agent, that's awesome||

[white jungle]

I want awesome designs to not be wasted on shit stats

[clear crest]

too bad

[white jungle]

?????

[meager oasis]

||What are spidops abilities?||

[white jungle]

Dude no shit

That's why I'm complaining

Because it's a dumb trend

[forest egret]

||Insomnia and Stakeout||

[clear crest]

:o

[forest egret]

||Stakeout is thematically appropriate, I'm ok with that||

[meager oasis]

||Oh, that’s pretty underwhelming especially since AI won’t swap out much in a playthrough||

[clear crest]

||i've somehow avoided palafins design||

[white jungle]

||It literally could have been fast with sticky web and it would have been somewhat useable, but no||

||The first Spider with 8 legs and it's a dud||

[forest egret]

It'll be useable for a playthrough, I know any mon is. Having mons that do things is appreciated though

[viscid adder]

||not without a lot of VITAMINS!||

[meager oasis]

True, it at least has a good stat distribution for its low BST

[forest egret]

Mhm

It's a little better than Beedrill and Butterfree

[white jungle]

||??? Nah Butterfree solos Spidops||

[lament glen]

To be fair, they have already become a looooot better with this in the last few gens. Nowadays a good chunk of mons from each gen at least has some unique gimmick to it. Because, you know... having 20 fast bug types with sticky web wouldnt be that unique either...

[clear crest]

the thing is. 60/92/86 isn't actually too bad.

[white jungle]

||Butterfree is how you do a Pokémon with low base stat RIGHT||

||Compound eyes with sleep powder, quiver dance and hurricane||

[forest egret]

Oh I mean, I'm not asking for that

[clear crest]

also, are pokemon fans inherently pessimistic about things all the time?

everywhere I go, people are bitching :c

[white jungle]

When they're shit.

[lament glen]

For good reasons

You don't see Zelda and Xenoblade fans bitching around because they actually get good and polished games

[meager oasis]

I’ve seen this gen have a lot of praise for it’s Mon designs and stuff

And other things

[white jungle]

If a Pokémon is not rewarded with a good stat total, it should be given a move and ability set which helps it bridge the gap as to allow weaker Pokémon to exist without being rendered useless

[meager oasis]

It seems to be pretty popular

[forest egret]

This game's gotten way more praise than SwSh

[clear crest]

yea but the difference is that those games are made by actual good devs

[white jungle]

I know of two Pokémon with Stakeout and ||Spidops|| is somehow the worst.

The other one is GUMSHOOS

[clear crest]

pokemon developers have ALWAYS been trash lmao. they're just carried by their designs

[viscid adder]

||and now the goat||

[forest egret]

You changed teams pretty quickly there

[clear crest]

I know they're not great, but y'know what I do? I enjoy the cool shit they DID DO. instead of bitching about what they didn't.

[lament glen]

Nah, they knew what they were doing back when they were working with top down worlds and sprites. Sadly they've never managed to develop past that point

[clear crest]

I can be positive

[white jungle]

It's not acceptable that they're trash and people have a right to be pessimistic about it.

[viscid adder]

that's fair

[clear crest]

I dislike grafaiai's design

[white jungle]

Not acknowledging that they're shit and need to do better is like having an abusive relationship with Gamefreak lmao

[forest egret]

I think being positive is a good thing. But if it's at the cost of ignoring negative aspects then I just can't get behind that

[lament glen]

Is that the Girafarig evo or the splatoon finger guy? I can never remember

[viscid adder]

so we're gonna forget legends arceus, right?

[viscid adder]

latter

[lament glen]

ok

I like him

[forest egret]

Splatoon finger man yes

[lament glen]

prob one of my favorites

[clear crest]

what do I do about it? I make memes about it

[forest egret]

I agree, Grafaifai is one of my favs from this gen too

[lament glen]

Legends Arceus was a step in the right direction. Not a big step, but a step. Solid 7/10 game for me, which makes by the best switch pokemon game by leagues

[white jungle]

I don't wanna know where Grafaiai's fingers have been

[forest egret]

Well, up his nose

[viscid adder]

honestly, I think we shouldn't dwell on the positives or the negatives.
no matter which side you are on, being blind about the other side just makes you miss a lot

[forest egret]

Real Aye-Ayes do that too

[lament glen]

and his poopoo

[forest egret]

Exactly

[clear crest]

am I blind to negativity? no. do I choose to ignore it because holy shit cool animals? yes.

I'm a flawed lass, like everyone else.

[forest egret]

You can do that, but you gotta accept that people aren't gonna like the same cool animals as you, that's just sorta how fandom works

[white jungle]

If you're this satisfied with the bare minimum please don't date anyone I guarantee you deserve better.

[forest egret]

Enough, you don't have to be a dick about it

[clear crest]

epoch

first off

what the fuck

secondly

I'm terrified of dating anyway

if I want to cuddle with something, I've got my plush toys.

[forest egret]

I would like to have a ||Tinkaton plush with a comically large hammer||

[odd cave]

||the plush would be comically large too||

[forest egret]

||4ft tall plush with 9ft tall hammer||

[white jungle]

Okay maybe that was a bad joke, but my point behind it is genuine. You can enjoy something as well as being critical of its flaws, because focusing on what little we're given that's particularly great is what allows companies like this to rake in money while not fulfilling promises

I'm as excited for SV as anyone here, I think on the whole the game looks good

But this is a REALLY rich company were talking about

They've got a lot further to go.

[forest egret]

I realize that applies to the game as a whole, but in the context of ||Spidops having poor stats, I don't think it's that big of a deal ||

[somber girder]

I still don't know if I'm gonna get the new games, feels like it was a big step back from legends 😦

[pastel lark]

with the games out now, and now knowing the dex, i would 100% pick scarlet

[forest egret]

I like to think of it as Legends being a separate thing, and these games being a step up from SwSh

Perhaps that's not... the best way to view it, I don't know

[white jungle]

No that was sort of just a trigger point in hindsight, though flaws in their Pokémon design methods are a great concern to me. Especially since people wouldn't need weak mons if they just added appropriate difficulty levels to the game.

Particularly since weak mons can't exactly be helped due to a high skill ceiling. Obviously good and bad players still exist, and good players can generally use worse Pokémon and just play smarter, but this is all glorified Rock Paper Scissors

[forest egret]

I actually don't play competitive at all, I only have a slight interest in that side of things. I just like when mons are fun to use, if they're bad or good that's ok either way

[lament glen]

Spinda is fun to use

You cannot change my mind

[forest egret]

Spinda is fun

[white jungle]

I would agree, but I think that fun Mons that have low base stats are typically as I described before, with some sort of combination of moves/abilities that can help them bridge the gap or at least be surprising and fun

Spinda is fun

It's a broken ability on a weak Mon, that I like

[lament glen]

I've never used a Spinda with that ability but I still had fun with it

I personally just really enjoy using weak mons, which is why I would really not like it if every mon had something that technically makes it good

[prime topaz]

which lechonk evo should i use, Style 1 or Style 2

[untold grove]

is scarlet and violet and good?

[shell grail]

i like it

[shell grail]

yeah "shed"

[lament glen]

Kinda probably maybe?

[viscid adder]

||that depends on their abilities.
that's the only difference between the two playwise.||

[prime topaz]

bros fighting zombies

[forest egret]

Swsh's metacritic score is 80

[prime topaz]

that is the same picture

[forest egret]

Said score is a critic score and not the audience one so take from that what you will

[viscid adder]

||Oh, so he's a ghost in the machine?||

[forest egret]

||It's an "unknown poison" so I'm thinking less ghost, more sci-fi experiment creature||

||Probably not too different from how creatures like Muk exist||

[prime topaz]

||inspirited does make it sound like it died. would want to know what the japanese dex entry says||

[forest egret]

||How could it "die" if it wasn't living||

||I think it means it just revived a broken engine using whatever weird serum got poured in it||

[viscid adder]

||...ok this guy is cool now.
pun not intended.||

[prime topaz]

||the big whale is related to the big whale. astute observation.||

[flat ledge]

||I like the idea of this pokemon but w h y||

[viscid adder]

||w h y n o t ?||

[viscid adder]

||hmm yes the whale is made of whale||

[forest egret]

||Cetitian being a Wailmer relative is cool though, I like when pokemon mentions actual darwinian evolution||

[smoky bison]

||... sticky fluid that it secretes from its blow hole? 😏 ||

[viscid adder]

||YA BETTER CLEAR YOUR CALENDAR ONCE I INTRODUCE YOU TO MY FRIEND....
BAXCALIBER||

[viscid adder]

||don't think dirty bro.
it's just dolphin snot.||

||the inspiration behind the pawmi family||

[forest egret]

||El rat||

[inner kernel]

||they are very boring||

[shell grail]

yes

[clear crest]

||https://vxtwitter.com/pithyalyse/status/1593372216099487754?s=20&t=eTF35ZgcsawzN8Q3ZmNSlw ouch.||

ouch.

[viscid adder]

god... just watching that hurts

[prime topaz]

I'm going to be like another mindless Twitter user and plug my ears and insist that it's playing on an emulator and that's why the performance is bad

[viscid adder]

i really hope there's a patch that can fix the performance issues

[prime topaz]

there's no way the amazing talented programmers at game freak could put out a technical mess

[viscid adder]

||god i love the poetry here||

[prime topaz]

all right bramblers let's get bramblin'

[fickle birch]

||But make the hammer actual metal so it's a weapon as well as a plush.|| 😂

||Or, even better, like Amy's Piko Piko Hammer.|| 😄

[clear crest]

y'know what I want?

y'know how Pokemon has a collab with Squishmallow coming up?

make a Bellibolt Squishmallow

it's PERFECT

[clear crest]

I KNOW RIGHT

and if the squishmallows need names

legit just call it Iono

alright guys. 11 minutes left. my tastes fresh or dookie butter?

[viscid adder]

i'm ok with those takes!

honestly, I like farigiraf for the fact that it can finally be a long giraffe.

||and YES SOMEONE GETS THE GENIUS OF DUDUNSPARCE||

[clear crest]

farigiraf is an odd one

[clear crest]

||NOT EVERY EVOLUTION NEEDS TO BE A GIANT MAJESTIC BADASS. SOMETIMES YOU JUST WANNA EAT DIRT, DIG HOLES, AND VIBE!!||

[viscid adder]

||This pokemon grew on me because of how stupid it looks.
The millisecond I heard its cry made me fall in love with it.||

[clear crest]

||DUDUNSPARCE IS BUILT DIDIFFERENT||

[prime topaz]

is there a complete tiermaker with the new Pokemon

[viscid adder]

||I mean, it's just its cry, but stretched!||

||THAT'S HILARIOUS||

[clear crest]

mhm!! it's how I got the photos!

https://tiermaker.com/create/generation-9-pokemon-spoilers-13496

[viscid adder]

||proof that I'm not pulling this out of my ass:||

[clear crest]

he's always longer

only thing I wish they did

is give him a little horn

on the top of his head

[viscid adder]

oh my gosh

[fickle birch]

||I wish they made it a good design.|| 😦

[clear crest]

||blaq my british boy, it IS a good design.||

[fickle birch]

||I get the joke, I just don't think it's a good one.|| 😅

[clear crest]

||just not, contentionally good.||

[viscid adder]

IT'S GOOD TO ME

[clear crest]

AND ME

[viscid adder]

yeah we're a bunch of immature motherhonkers

i mean, I laugh at the sight of a centaurtaur

would love to post you guys an image of it, but Clyde thinks that I'm sending porn

i'm not.

just let me send the screencap of this beast plz clyde...

[clear crest]

reminds me of

[prime topaz]

made mine

[viscid adder]

||dudunsparce|| and ||farigiraf ||in a shellnut:

[prime topaz]

don't like the look of koraidon and miraidon as vehicles/ride pokémon, but their regular standing / battle look is great

the let's go games let you use your own Pokemon to ride around I don't know why they decided to not keep that for any future game

[clear crest]

IT IS MIDNIGHT

AND IT IS TIME

TO BECOME

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[viscid adder]

https://tenor.com/view/dam-break-breaking-overwhelmed-finally-its-done-gif-15175122

HERE IT COMES

[lament glen]

time to slep

[clear crest]

ngyes

it is

[fickle birch]

Because it'd mean that over the next however many games, they'd have to animate however many of the 850 Pokémon weren't in Let's Go and are deemed rideable. 😦

[clear crest]

blaq spittin faq

..s

[fickle birch]

Plus it'd make it harder to use one for everything, like your Electrode flying wouldn't make much sense. 😢

As sad as it is, because it was a great feature that I'd love to return. 🙂

[forest egret]

||Oh hell yeah, I love that all their dexes show that they're vengeful||

[prime topaz]

who asked for that?

because I didn't

[forest egret]

||The drawing of that 3rd legendary has a crown. I wonder if he's the Evil King||

[fickle birch]

Well it's either that or bringing back HMs, with requiring certain Pokémon on the team for certain functions. 😦

[prime topaz]

huh? why would HMs come back?

[viscid adder]

||i'm guessing that it's dialga's kid||

[prime topaz]

that doesn't make any sense

[clear crest]

||isn't it similarly visually to glimmora?||

[viscid adder]

||i mean, it's crystal-like, is in the form of an egg...||

||PLUS LOOK AT THIS||

||JEWEL BASED||

[smoky bison]

|| https://fxtwitter.com/Cherrim/status/1593292235222978560 ||

[clear crest]

we know

[viscid adder]

not new

[patent rivet]

What the hell is this guy talking about, 78 isn’t low

[smoky bison]

7.8 too much water

[patent rivet]

Me when Pokémon doesn’t get an automatic 10/10 for being Pokémon

[smoky bison]

People will think anything below a 9/10 is trash

In reality, S/V probably deserves a 5/10

[clear crest]

tfw 9/10 is my 10/10

[patent rivet]

I guess people treat review scores like grades in school, a 60% is an F

People have already been playing it on PC for weeks

[abstract frigate]

wait

actually

[clear crest]

it's against ToS to speak about this btw

[abstract frigate]

oh mb

[clear crest]

just a heads up

no worries, we all make mistakes.

[patent rivet]

We can talk about it, just not link any roms or stuff

[clear crest]

oh

[abstract frigate]

ooh

[clear crest]

that makes a lot more sense

[cobalt thicket]

Big boy Nintendo can’t catch lil old me im too fast

[abstract frigate]

ahahaha

i got perma banned from another custom pokemon game server cuz i asked if any1 knew if there was roms

tbf if i use the rom version i wont get all the cool updates

[cobalt thicket]

A lot of Nintendo games recently have been ripped early access for PC

[abstract frigate]

i heard sonic frontiers got leaked

like a huge gameplay leak

[clear crest]

Hey guys sorry to bother

[patent rivet]

Sonic Frontiers released already

[clear crest]

||Does Maushold scream like Tandemaus does?||

[patent rivet]

Hey, mark it as spoilers

[clear crest]

Sorry

!!!

[patent rivet]

The games aren’t even out, it’s still the 17th

[clear crest]

I'm quite sleepy

[abstract frigate]

in australia it was out last night

my sister is playing it rn

[harsh oasis]

Not how that works iirc

Release happens globally at the same time

[abstract frigate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Huo9f6jPHwY

a full live stream last night in australia

[patent rivet]

I know him

He’s American

[abstract frigate]

he flew to aus

[patent rivet]

Anyways, physical copies work a bit differently

[abstract frigate]

oh ye tru

forgot abt physicals

[patent rivet]

Global releases only work for digital

[abstract frigate]

yer

[patent rivet]

At the exact time anyways

[abstract frigate]

ig he got the special influencer physical copy

[harsh oasis]

I thought physical still has to check the internet to see if it's released?

[abstract frigate]

it checks the local internet

i think

[patent rivet]

That doesn’t make any sense, you know review copies are sent out earlier right?

And you can play video games without an internet connection

[harsh oasis]

Oh true

[abstract frigate]

which one is better scarlet or violet

[patent rivet]

They’re the same game

[abstract frigate]

i mean in terms of version specfics

[harsh oasis]

I'm honestly not sure what I think half the time

It's what you prefer

[abstract frigate]

ima try and get violet

nobody wants that legs out bike pokemon

[pastel lark]

||man, i hate that paradox pokemons don't evolve or have pre evolutions||

[prime topaz]

||I don't think this would be as big of an issue for me if there were just more of them in general||

||and also maybe some paradox ones that are original to those timelines and not just alternates of existing ones we know||

[pastel lark]

||for me the biggest problem about this is because there is pre evos||

||like it's okay for the future ones, since they are robots, but for the past||

[prime topaz]

||PARADOX pokemon ||

[viscid adder]

||THEY HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY TIME SO MUCH THAT A PRE-EVO OF THEM WOULD JUST BE A REGULAR THEM||

[compact sequoia]

||just wanted to ask beforehand, is there proof of whether or not auto battle targets shinies?||

||research is giving me conflicting results.||

[snow glade]

||you literally have to go tell your little demon to go kill the pokemon so its kinda on you if you do it||

||also why does misdreavus look like it was fused with a natu/xatu lmao||

[compact sequoia]

||I'm just really paranoid about misclicking the let's go button and killing a shiny||

[white jungle]

Sources say it doesn't

It was review copies I believe that led to the conclusion that they ||kill shinies||

[compact sequoia]

||I see. I'll avoid using the auto battle feature too much though, Don't wanna risk it||

||really wish they kept the overworld shiny sound, because other than trusting let's go to not kill shinies it's just up to luck whether or not you can spot the mons with minute shiny differences.||

[white jungle]

||My recommendation would be to do one hunt with it to confirm for yourself, apparently shiny hunting gets super easy eventually||

[compact sequoia]

||well, I'm excited to try it out once Nintendo decides this side of the planet can get the new pokemon.||

[magic narwhal]

Time for me to go to gamestop at midnight. Scarlet and violet here I come!

[fallow flower]

I wanna start playing it right now ! I have a switch Oled coming today at some point tho and I hate waiting x.x

[opal gull]

can't believe kiwis not in scarlet violet smh

[jade shore]

does anyone already reach champion?

[frail fox]

lol I have 1 badge after 13 hours. Unless someone rushed to all the gyms, thats not likely

[jade shore]

Oh, so no speedrunner

[frail fox]

well there could be some out there. I havent been keeping track

[meager oasis]

oh right i forgot champions existed

does anybody know who the champion is

[viscid adder]

||GET READY TO GET GEN 1'd BOIII||

[meager oasis]

||Oh no… is their team just gen 1 mons or something?||

[viscid adder]

||no.
YOUR RIVAL IS THE CHAMPION||

[meager oasis]

Ohh

||That’s a bit boring but oh well||

[viscid adder]

Oh, and speaking of gym leaders and elite four people, I actually have one voice headcanon.

||I want Ryme to be voiced by Missy Elliot.||

||or any one of those old school female rappers||

[opal gull]

or aren't they

[viscid adder]

they were talking about the bird, dude

[opal gull]

I am the dude

I am op

._.

or had it been said before I did

[viscid adder]

well aren't I a dummy

[opal gull]

I was talking abotu doduo but kiwi be both

[viscid adder]

well doduo is.. kinda kiwi

[opal gull]

yes

ik

dorb

[raw turtle]

Them frame rate drops are horrible for a new game

[cobalt thicket]

||Your rival isn’t really THE champion, they are A champion there is the chairwoman of the E4 that fits the role of champion to me since you fight the e4 to get to her||

[meager oasis]

oh

ic

[cobalt thicket]

Sry that was a bit late I was too busy playing Violet

[meager oasis]

its alr

is the game good so far?

[cobalt thicket]

I played scarlet for like a week before release too and I still bought the game

I like it

[meager oasis]

oh lol

[cobalt thicket]

It’s basically PLA but follows closer to the format of a main series game and I feel like it does that very well

Some plot elements are pretty cool too

The main concern that people have is performance because open world + switch can be rough sometimes but I’m sure it will get ironed out eventually, compared to the quality on the PC emulator I used it’s a lot better lol

[lament glen]

I don't think that there has ever been a post-release performance patch for a pokemon game so I don't know where that confidence in that comes from, but we'll see I guess

sure would be nice

[timid tulip]

Please

||Don't tell me these are legendaries||

[clear crest]

I hope Geeta isn't evil

She's really pretty

[patent rivet]

Lusamine is evil and mentally insane from obsession and poisoning from an alien life form, yet that didn’t stop people from simping for her

[clear crest]

It stopped me

[meager oasis]

they are

and they are awesome

[prime topaz]

the humans in this game look like some fucked up mashup of proper pokemon art and the ugly pokemon go avatars

Go is where the money is so I can't say it didn't make sense to do that

[timid tulip]

They just don't feel like legendaries

[meager oasis]

they probably will once you see them ingame

[timid tulip]

Nah

Don't have a switch + my computer's so shit it doesn't even load chrome

[marble linden]

I am not sure about getting this yet

I should check the new poke to see if it's worth lolz

Lol yeah doubt I'll get it for the 20 they added

Anyone here to change my mind? Any cool new features or something?

[smoky bison]

Why'd they have to make the black gym leader a rapper

[clear crest]

do y'all think there's a cuter character in this game than Acerola?

OH HEY

THE MICE ARE GENDERLESS

AND YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS

[quiet frost]

Dear lord
Scarlet and Violet really went all out

And i Love that mushroom looking mon called Nacli

Its called the Rock Salt Pokemon

And its name contains Nacl

NaCl is Sodium Chloride, or more commonly known as Table Salt

The naming right there is genius

[clear crest]

I love nacli too, so much that when I saw it leaked, I drew it!

[white jungle]

Ehhh I can see your point but idk if it's an issue, we've had characters who rap before like the Musician trainer class and they've had pale skin

Rap is a big part of black culture. I haven't seen enough of the character yet but so long as it's not like... Characituristic it should be fine right?

Of course like... Woulda been nice to have the black gym leader be something cooler than a rapper WITH NO VOICE ACTING, FUCK

[clear crest]

as long as they don't look like the fuckin mermaid sisters, we're good

[white jungle]

Jesus fuck what am I looking at

[clear crest]

the mermaid sisters

[smoky bison]

What does it mean

[clear crest]

TLDR; I had a massive paranoia about having two pokemon on my team with the field egg group

because like

[smoky bison]

Why?

[clear crest]

skeledirge and maushold would just make me look like my pfp

screaming in fear

[smoky bison]

What's the issue with having them in the same egg group?

[clear crest]

picnics

breeding

giant fucking crocodile banging tiny mice

do I need to be more blunt

[forest egret]

It's only that if you imagine it that way

[clear crest]

it is, yea

but still

fuckin terrifying thought

[white jungle]

I think Maushold is a hivemind still

[clear crest]

nah

just funny mice

[white jungle]

They literally scream in unison like body snatchers.

[clear crest]

don't ruin this for me

[forest egret]

The ambiguity of the dex entry does leave it open. If they are separate mons it wouldn't be the first. Falinks aren't a hivemind nor connected they just exhibit teamwork

[white jungle]

Tbh that's what I don't like about Falinks

[clear crest]

Falinks and Tandemaus use teamwork

[white jungle]

Not a fan of the idea of multiple Pokémon being one without some sort of actual connecting force

Falinks itself? Fucking love that thing

But the lore behind it is meh

Like even Mons like Magneton, Metagross, etc fuse together

And Dugtrio does seem to be connected

[dull shoal]

They probably knew what they were doing

[forest egret]

Mogi

[smoky bison]

SUSSUS

[quiet frost]

Oinkologne being one of the strongest route 1 mons be like

Bst of 489 for a mon that evolves at lvl 18

Mightyena and Linoone only have bst of 420

[meager oasis]

jeez level 18

[forest egret]

Almost the same bst as Alakazam and Altaria

[clear crest]

oinkologne is gonna be a team staple holy fuck

it's a genuine threat level mon with that BST

[white jungle]

Houndstone is another one that I think is gonna be potentially super strong

It has 100 base defense with fluffy, which is what? 150? 200?

Idk how the math works out but for a two stage 488 base stat GHOST TYPE that's strong

It's special defense isn't even bad, it's almost 100 base itself

That's not mentioning an attack stat which is only 9 points under Stoutland

[tropic carbon]

framerate kinda doodoo

[white jungle]

Plus it gets Last Respects

Which like sure it only has 68 base speed, but that's faster than T-tar and T-tar has been used as a scarf sweeper before

Houndstone is versatile, it can be a finishing Mon to try and scarf sweep or it can be a Mon you bring out earlier on as a physical tank

[clear crest]

you know what pokemon I feel people are sleeping on? Garganacl.

[white jungle]

I mean now that you say it...

It may be Mono rock but those stats aren't bad at all

Especially given that it's lower special defense is covered by the effects of sandstorm

[clear crest]

100 HP, 130 Def, 90 SpD, Resistance to ghost moves and immunity to status, Body press off of 130 def, rocks, recover, and a tonne of strong attacking moves

[white jungle]

Keeping in mind Recover has lost a lot of stall value

[clear crest]

but I MEAN FUCK

recover is still a good move

[white jungle]

My fear would be Garganacl would have been way better before stall nerfs

I think it'll still be a solid Mon with those stats alone

But most likely this gen will be quite heavy on fast attackers

[clear crest]

garganacl is probably RU-NU rn

but like

gen 7? easy OU spot.

[white jungle]

Which honestly I'm kind of annoyed about because we kind of... Already preferred fast attackers?

Like they were clearly already the most powerful kind of mon

[clear crest]

also I think I finally settled on my team

[white jungle]

And they nerf
Stall
Instead

Which is weird.

I can understand stall being unfun sometimes but such a huge nerf was unnecessary imo

It just needed a tweak

[clear crest]

last slot is either Rabsca, Lokix, or Glimmora.

but I'm vibing with Rabsca atm

[white jungle]

Fighting tera Garganacl could be a good one

Stab Body Press with 130 base defense

And Fighting isn't weak to anything rock is

[clear crest]

oh fuck

3 weak to ground and 3 weak to water

rut ro raggy

[white jungle]

4 weak to ground

I dunno why that calculator is weird but those first 4 are ALL weak to ground

[clear crest]

goddamn

so levitate or a mon that has tera flying will be really useful then?

I think Bellibolt would be fun for tera flying ngl

[white jungle]

I dunno, I don't think any of your ground weak mons have much in the way of flying use

But for humour value, yeah, probably bellibolt

Hell, does it get bounce?

[clear crest]

no :c

[white jungle]

Heartbreaking

Can you send that calculator here?

[vestal aurora]

crocalor destroyed the bug gym lmao

[clear crest]

https://www.makio.it/pokemon/sv/team-builder

[supple fern]

Mother Nature is not kind to me so I cannot get the game day 1

[patent rivet]

Nice reference

[patent rivet]

Kingambit kind of looks like a beetle

[white jungle]

I agree, total Ringo

Real talk though I think some of the movesets this gen are utter dogshit.

[forest egret]

Beetles and Samurai have some sort of connection in Japanese culture right

[white jungle]

Look at Quaquaval, no victory dance? Really?

[hazy scarab]

What's this calculator

[white jungle]

It's middling speed and defense means it's gonna be stuck as a scarfer in comp if you want value out of its attack stat

[white jungle]

It's a bit further up in chat

The same can be said about Slither Wing, literally the perfect Pokémon to GET victory dance and it doesn't

Another Mon who's essentially stuck with scarf due to its quad weakness to flying

Me personally I'm running a fire tera and figure I'll have Flame Charge on it

But that won't be that good in comp realistically and as soon as terrastalising is gone Slither Wing's value will plummet

I just don't understand the grudge that they seem to have with setup sweeper moves this generation

It's gonna leave some of the coolest gen 9 Mon as Choice Mon

And honestly?

That's so fucking boring.

[lament glen]

Beautiful

[pine swan]

Idk if this counts as self promo really but if anyone really wants to watch Scarlet and Violet I will be streaming on Saturday at 12pm MST hit my dms for a link

[valid beacon]

It is with great regret that I must inform you all, that shines do not appear shiny in their icons

[frail fox]

Got my second shiny. They're really handing them out like candy. I'm not even hunting for them.

[vestal aurora]

That's the male one right?

Yeah it is lmao

[frail fox]

I think

I didnt know there was a difference

[vestal aurora]

My lechonk just evolved and looks like thag

[frail fox]

you mean besides the color, right? cause it has the shiny sparkle

[hazy scarab]

Hey, this is my Scarlet/Violet Team:
#1 Dudunsparce👻 | #2 Dudunsparce🔨 | #3 Dunsparce🪶 | #4 Dunsparce🧚 | #5 Dunsparce🏜️ | #6 Dunsparce🌖 |

What do you think?✨

_________ https://www.makio.it/pokemon/sv/team-builder?p1=Dudunsparce&t1=Ghost&mt1[]=Normal&p2=Dudunsparce&t2=Steel&mt2[]=Flying&mt2[]=Ground&mt2[]=Normal&mt2[]=Steel&p3=Dunsparce&t3=Flying&mt3[]=Flying&mt3[]=Ground&mt3[]=Normal&mt3[]=Psychic&p4=Dunsparce&t4=Fairy&mt4[]=Fairy&mt4[]=Fighting&mt4[]=Ground&mt4[]=Normal&p5=Dunsparce&t5=Ground&mt5[]=Flying&mt5[]=Ground&mt5[]=Normal&mt5[]=Rock&p6=Dunsparce&t6=Dark&mt6[]=Dark&mt6[]=Ground&mt6[]=Normal&mt6[]=Psychic

Bruh

Bad link

Why

[clear crest]

AAAAA THIS GAME!!!

[graceful ruin]

Wrong, yes you can

You can just straight up swap your mons moves at any time

Yes

That is in the game

[somber girder]

😮

sweet

[white jungle]

Cyclizar is gonna be a great combo with Palafin tbh

Shed tail on sending it back out can completely neuter a lot of counters, especially status based

[inland sparrow]

just like in arceus :D

[night python]

ah hell naw they got the amongus

[dull shoal]

I could almost bet they did that on purpose

[odd cave]

||why are they 4?||

[night python]

I don't they're all are looking at me I'm scared

[inland sparrow]

||thought it was wugtrio, not wugquartet||

[night python]

They Just dug into the ground oh my god

[unreal magnet]

i am going to get the game i am exited i havent looket to muctch into it but is the gameplay good like with lagence Arceus

[unreal magnet]

is that wiglets final evolution?

also yea its 100% amongus

from the color to the back of i

it

[shell grail]

oh sorry i heard it wasn't

[clear crest]

Guys

How do I unlock surprise trade?

[quiet frost]

yeahhhhhhhh I’m bout to hop on

for the first time

[tacit timber]

HE'S SO FUCKING CUTE