#pokemon-winds-waves
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Make em fire/flying or maybe even fire/something else, just because it's a bird doesn't mean it has to be a flying type
You could do a smoking pun too without making it too adult for Pokémon because they'd puff out smoke due to literally being fire Pokémon
||That guy is a dumbass||
||Nothing is too gay||
If I'd have made it now, I'd have probably done this, it was one of my earlier ones and they're a little wacky. 😂
Heheh "pp"
I did a bunch of Pinkan Pokémon too, I think they'd have been fun for Shinies. 😄
||I literally simply asked them if they're being homophobic and they just went an all out rant about how everyone has their own opinion and bla bla bla||
I'd change it more than that, plus the eyes. 😅
Lol, fair enough
||Yes, while it is true that everyone has their own opinion, I think they should've worded their critique differently. And also not lash out at people||
Al Shinies must be Blue or Purple 
||I predicted Paldean Tauros like 5 years ago.|| 
Honestly?
These were some of my favourites that I did, I love a colour swap Shiny. 😄
||That thing and his 12 forms confuses me almost as much as the dolphin line||
Psyduck has the best shiny.
Psyduck definitively has the best shiny and Golduck ruins it
I think Rayquaza and Charizard are more popular Shinies than Psyduck. 😛
He ain't wrong
what are you guy's favorite pokemon in this generation?
I have a soft spot for Swellow's for some reason. 😄
Black dragons go hard
||Quaquaval, I absolutely love it.|| 😄
||Dachsbun is fantastic too.|| 🙂
||And although it won't be on my team, I love Tatsugiri.|| 😃
||Tinkaton might be mine||
||Olive first and last stage, Tumbleweed and maybe the nihilego flowers if their design ends up cool||
||Lokix is rad too||
Yeah well it's a dumb preference, they can have fun with their boring starter and serpent who they'll never use out of casual play (if they even get a shiny one in the first place)
Shiny psyduck solos
how tf do you guys already knoe all the names
I don't even know half of tge gen 7 names yet 
||Some still don't have names.|| 😅
Oh have you missed ||the flowers?||
||because quaxquaval is a slaying king||
||Haven't really decided yet but Kingambit and Slither Moth go hard as fuck||
No, the leaked images just arent really showing the full design
I think
Ah I see
||crocalor, i liek the funny hat||
||I also really like Tentacruel and little garn spider boi||
||True, they're both great. I'm also a big fan of Great Tusk.|| 🙂
||The Quaxly line, the Fuecoco line, the first evo of Sprigatito, the flamingo (because it's funny), the gimmeghoul line, the dolphin (yes and I'll go down with that ship), the psychic chick, the haha funny dropping things bird, ghost dog, fairy dog, dogfather, solid spider and dudunsparce (because I love that it still keeps its derpiness)||
||I like maushold just for being incredibly funny||
||Which spider, the round one or its evolved form which looks nothing like it?|| 😮
i thought they all did except for 3rd legend +virizion/suicune forms
HA! MY MAN!
||Last I checked, at least Smoliv's final form didn't have one.|| 😮
||I think the evo spider is a natural progression, atleast to me||
||It's an S-tier name for sure.|| 😃
||The little garn spider boi. The evo is absolute trash sadly||
||It goes from a ball of wool to a spool of thread||
||it's squidward||
||Agreed, I thought Tarountula was an evolved Pokémon. Weird how it isn't but Grafaiai is.|| 😮
||OH AND THE LOCUST. FORGOT BOUT HIM||
I love ||chainsaw bug||
Can't really tell what stage many of these are without context
||
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Yeah exactly, I feel the same way about ||Grafaiai|| being fully evolved as I did about Drednaw last time. 😮
||That's a nickname.|| 😛
oh
||Hammer boy also looks not like a 3rd stage. Same with the... fluffy hamster that turns fighting type? I honestly have no idea what that thing even is, but the entire line is like 5 times more boring than the gen 5 monkes||
||I think Tinkaton being tiny with a huge hammer is hilarious||
||hammer girl has full evo line out||
||Difficult. But surely Cyclizard||
He's pretty cool
||I agree, this one works for me, it's like Mawile 2.0 in some ways.|| 🙂
||The actual progression of the evo is the weapon||
||I also enjoy the progression of going from being a defensless little creature to an asshole who throws rocks at birds for fun||
||So it's rapid spin+||
||I spoke to soon about the good Shinies, Future Pokémon are just worse than Past ones in general.|| 😢
||The ttar one is pretty good atleast||
||Doesn't change enough for me, green and black stay the same.|| 😦
same
||Aight. What if it keeps the blue as-is, but it changed the black to be a dark red, to give it a sentai palatte||
||If it's doing Sentai, it could have been red with the green becoming white and the black becoming silver.|| 😄
thatd be good
||I also don't know what you mean by blue, I see no blue on Tyranitar.|| 😂
||Oh I guess it's more of a green light||
||Or uh, turquoise ig?||
||The steel might be making it bluer||
Perhaps
||I'm fine with how the shiny turned out. But red's not so bad||
best move description
That's fucking hilarious
||Froslass tells a joke about pronouns, asked to leave the stage as the crowd is engulfed in 6 feet of snow||
||Have you ever told a joke so bad that it causes a hecking snowstorm? lol||
||I'm all for weather-setting which isn't reliant on Pokémon abilities. It'll be a good tool, especially with ice's supposed defense buff in hail.||
Ceruledge shiny have been leaked ?
||Raging Bull, Make it Rain and Ruination||
||Someone said something about how the ice dragon was not the pseudo is that confirmed? if not who is the pseudo? the Pink Hammer?||
||from what ive seen in playthroughs pink hammer is common||
||Oh snap....
The first non-dragon pseudo||
||Oh wait nvm||
||Metagross and Ttar were||
Brain forgor
||T-tar number one bb||
||it being late in the pokedex is interesting and making me question it. Pseudo are often late in the dex. Also it being 1000 means it should be special.||
||And now I can finally use it without having to run a sand team||
maybe
||FINALLY!!! A move that isnt defog||
How many Pokemon shiny forms have been leaked yet ?
10 trillion
||At the very least, Lechonk, Oinkologne, Cyclizar, Koraidon and the Future forms of Delibird, Tyranitar and Hydreigon.|| 🙂
Thanks
and the starters
||Miraidon's did too||
||Feel bad for Primeape fans because I like Primeape, and I think it's evolution is cool, but Kingambit completely outshines the fucking thing||
Oh really? ||I'm a Bisharp fan but I way prefer what Primeape's evo is||
||The bisharp evo looks pretty ugly to me ngl||
||annihilape is a badass name tho||
||I'm sorry but stinky ghost ape, cool as it is, can't compare to the fucking chad that is Kingambit||
||true||
Agreed
||Kingambit is already in a long term relationship with your mother and the worst part is he's not just using her, he treats her extremely well.||
||Kingambit is everyone's stepdad now and we've gotta accept that under his stern but fair teaching we're all going to be better people||
I wonder
||I accept kingambit as my father||
||Kingambit's got some sort of basis on the king piece, atleast as the name suggests, but there's female Bisharp, can they become Kingambit too? That'd be pretty cool||
||It's a shame that I'm 100% going Houndstone if I take a dog because the mob boss dog just looks like Kingambit's dog||
Spoiler that
How do I spoil it again?
Just post again, basically
IM on phone
||I haven't seen any female form around so my best guess is that it becomes Kingambit regardless of gender? It's also possible that only the males evolve but I dunno, when it's not something like Salazzle, which evolved from Salandit in the same gen they were introduced, having a gendered Evo seems kinda scummy||
||shiny espartha||
Love it, these are currently one of my favourite mons from the game so far
When you select an image, it should show up at the bottom before you send. Tap on it and it'll give you the option
||Oh shit a shiny which just improves the design, dope||
||No I agree, it should either be for both genders, or give us a queen evo, don't leave the female ones unable to evolve at all||
||tbh Quaquaval still looks like a Ducktales character to me. There are a few characters in the reboot which have his vibe.||
||He looks like a Jojo duck to me. He even strikes a pose when you send him out||
💀 best mon, worst shiny. ||shiny tinkaton||
||Bronze hammer||
||Agreed. A queen piece which becomes more speed based could be cool, with Kingambit just being an improvement on Bisharp's normal playstyle, but honestly I'm okay with it as-is so long as both genders can evolve||
||It’s not a super exciting shiny but I think the idea is neat||
||She's shiny on the inside!||
||The Komala Issue||
||ash greninja hidded in one of the pictures, ash greninja is not in the game||
||Counterargument:||
||I mean i like it. Its a rusted hammer indicating that she has used it alot.
Also is tinkaton only female or both genders?||
bruh first we got the s/m ground kahuna and now this
||Oh he wasn't arguing that the king can't be female, we're just saying that if the females don't evolve at all that would be upsetting||
Fair, fair
ow new gen stuff
||oh god I didn't realise it was Kingambit that gets supreme overlord||
gen 10 leak 
||tbh that's a pretty balanced mon to have it on assuming the stat spread is similar to Bisharp||
thanks twiiter
||a region based on italy would be sick||
||I would not be surprised if he's even slower honestly||
||Yeah, that's my one downside of the design tbh. Constant sitting is stupid||
||Again, I get it, but a folded arms position would have portrayed the same personality||
||Granted I guess the sitting is meant to be less military general, more chess player||
||but every great Pokémon has their design flaws I suppose||
||I actually like the sitting aspect personally. The thing I'm not into is how he looks like a person wearing samurai armor rather than a pokemon||
||Kings can move only one space at a time.||
for me 50% is good / 50% is trash
||But queens can move wherever they like||
||Haha sorry for waxing lyricals on you||
I'm on moble
||Sprigatito fans are so consistently and confidently wrong about things. No offense to Sprig fans who are reasonable but your brother's in arms are fucking morons||
spolier tag the name
How do I do that
|| the stuff
||maushold is perfect||
||like so||
||See, complete non-issue for me, I love humanoid Mons.||
||I do too, but he sorta tips the scale for me personally||
||Also: living suits of armor are poggers||
some people love them too much....
||Sprigs final evo has such a weird face ||
But, I can see it's an unpopulat opinion, ||Everyone seems to like Kingambit on twitter too, he's pretty well recieved all over||
Which is fair
There's things I like about him
||☝️ the only reason why i dislike it so far||
Same
||I want him for Pokémon Unite 🤷♂️. It'd be (kind of) a gen 5 Pokémon, which we're sorely lacking, whilst also repping the new gen. It'd be a good opportunity to have it stand up, and it could even get its chair back for its Unite (I'm thinking it would sit down and "plan it's move" as you aim the Unite move, which would launch an attack out like moving a chess piece forward.||
He does seem like the perfect candidate
Not Big Sooprice
Wait. ||Does tinkaton have a little fang mouth? That's awesome||
don't know if someone posted this, every pokemon returning to scarlet and violet
||Either Paradonphan would make a good Unite tank too, I figure they could get away with evolving from Phanpy (which technically they shouldn't but shhh) and having a split Evo depending on a certain move choice||
this pokemon doesn't stop getting better
||Lando T returns once again||
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neither alcremie or buneary is in scarlet and violet||
||Yeah because of Enamourus they were basically guaranteed||
RoadKiller (someone made this in #artwork and i remade it)
||God damn stupid charizard coming back but not the other Kanto starters||
lets gooo worst shiny just dropped
What
u racist 
||it is slightly darker||
it doesn't change
||pawmi evo shiny||
uh i thought it's nokemon
MORE STATS ARE OUT
||Pink Pawmot is fine||
||I love that there are more new Pokémon and frankly with all the new ones I'll probably never use old ones outside of like maybe my PLA team... But damn no Stoutland and Houndstone at the same time stings||
💀 i was just going on twiiter seeing art, and just saw someone changing a charcter race
||Does anybody have the image of shiny sprig final evo||
Thank
shiny ||velueza||
||Such a cute baby||
||FERROSEED????||
Oh my God why
Twitter moment
||Well anyway, the dolphin reminds me of a fisher price toy||
||Wow brambleghast's bst is a lot higher than I would've expected||
||Chadgambit out here nearly on the same level as the paradox Mons lmao||
lore spoilers|| this guy turns into a E4 member||
||Not sure how I feel about supreme overlord supposedly being it's only ability. Maybe the leaks I'm looking at are wrong but it would be a shame.||
||I was right, he does get slower||
||oh he's the next Ingo for sure, right? Like we're all on the same page about it?||
||meowscarada is very fast||
||It's literally just grass greninja/grass cinderace lol||
||Now the trio is complete||
||@forest egret it has sharp teeth https://twitter.com/NIGHTX44Z/status/1590871081665155073?s=20&t=16Qf6YUlYJW-zztmcFgzEQ||
Hell yeah
||I hope to never see a protean/libero starter again||
||Knock on wood||
IMPORTANT
it also don't match the shiny
That might just be the lighting

||I've just read that breeding can happen during picnics...||
...
||That just makes me naming my Quaxly "Danny Sexbang" even funnier||
this is not a spoiler
Oh well in that case...
shiny ||capsakid||
It’s sprigatito middle evo but upside down
||oh, it's just cat||
Oh, sorry. My mistake.
bruh, why did they posted it like this
Just a random female pokemon, nothing to see here.
knuckles is high confirmed
YOU JUST GOT FEMALE NINJA BRIAN'D
It’s an angry nurse
I was going to make my trainer character that, actually
Buuut we'll see what happens
||Woah
Love the pants||
||at least make 1 of the peppers yellow or something
is that a reliable website?
its been playable since last night lol
its one of the primary websites used so yes
cool no one asked
👍🏻 was just sharin info
sorry that was rude
its fine
:)
:)
:)
lol theres a setting for this
wait wats the setting?
:D
:D
Thanks!
you gonna strem?
ok fair
i just saw the quaxly final evo leaks and i love it
oh my god, do we finally get a ||dolphin|| pokemon?
||also apparently strong as hell||
||it also has a different form||
||I nicknamed it "Shazam"||
||i dont think im surprised considering the species. almost tropey to make a dolphin ridiculously strong, yknow what i mean?||
HAHAA
Holy shit that thing is ripped
||forgive me for bringing up an anime i dont even like but that's some almight vibes||
||holy shit it has VISIBLE pecks despite looking elastic and inflated||
||The reason why I nicknamed it Shazam is because when the cute dolphin evolves.. it initially looks like nothing has changed, save for the heart on its chest. But when you send it to battle, BOOM. It becomes jacked||
||160 attack is so OP||
||THAT'S AMAZING. and much more accurate than my almight comparison||
||i do love the tail marking as the chest symbol. getting hit with a whale's tail has to be downright lethal. maybe its a motif throughout the design?||
||The psuedo also hits like a train too||
||Even if it was only 120 Attack I would have still chosen it||
||oh siiiick||
||i love dragons so im excited. i can't wait for the design to be leaked/revealed||
it was
where
1 sec
||Even did a doodle!||
||https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/947500542089891840/1040385691663745134/SPOILER_image.png||

WONDERFUL
||i love his tiny fingers but humongous glove straps||
||His name is Baxcaliber||
||BALD||
||For comparison, this guy has the same attack stat as REGIGIGAS||
||which is now making me want to make a very NSP playthrough of Violet||
||dragon ice type||
||forgive my lack of understanding but what does nsp stand for?||
||Ninja Sex Party||
HAHA
ninja brian=nintendo for reference
||what pokemon would be ninja brian? greninja?||
Because he's fast and deadly
||No pokemon. The trainer is gonna be that. Silent protag for the win.||
||HAHA YES||
||Danny is gonna be Quaxly||
So these stats are real right?
yes
Chaos
finally, a ||dolphin||
||Kyogre is a dolphin
||
that's|| orca.||... well, biologically yes
where did u downlaod from
||is that grafaiai's signature move?||
which download link is best?
it downloaded it in 2 parts so i went to another site
i'll dm where im trying rn i had to decode it from reddit
dont send links for nsp's/xci's because the yuzu piracy server got shut down by nintendo
this is for anyone that sees it
Yeah we also have a rule here for that anyway
So, feel free to share piracy stuff with each other in DMs, just not here
otherwise, ninja brian will kill everyone in this server
shiny
||WELP
LOOKS LIKE MY ASS IS GONNA MAKE THE ULTIMATE SANDWICH (oh s--t!)||
||Huh, did not expect the blades to turn into a saber thing||
Woah
||god the animation looks cool||
||like... it's robotic, but in a good way||
Damn, I highly doubt that my acer laptop would be able to run it sadly 🥲
||the future pokemon are good, not sure how people are saying the past ones are better||
They are
Not a fan of either tbh, but if the lore says they are ||ai generated in a way|| it works I'd say
||I think both groups are pretty cool looking||
Ye we saw that dude earlier. ||Missed opportunity to make the peppers yellow and purple||
they got the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7Xg2odfJFU
Best track in my opinion.
This version plays when you see a zombie wave or horded by a number of zombies.
Developed by PopCap Games. Music by Laura Shigihara.
Did you delete whatever you pinged me with? 👀
was the same link but accidentally a reply
||Also got plants vs zombies vibes whenever I first saw it xD||
I love it just for that honestly
I like the concept, not sure about the execution yet
need to see it in action
I want to see it in motion yeah
horrifying
||shadow of the colossus||
||Ceruledge and Armarogue swapping eyes is slightly disappointing||
||Yeah all the shiny robos are silver||
||future delibird being shaped like a yukidaruma is a nice touch||
||Fish and snail are sick||
||Heavy Metal Sonic||
||I really like the robo shinies||
||This lad cannot get peace. Even after death||
||better look at the boy||
does anyone have the current prod keys
OMG GREEN SHINY
this one looks great
I'm not sure what I'm looking at with th is mon anymore... worried 😳
Ok, I really like this guy ||because the drones on the back remind me of || xenoblade 
@wicked citrus you should spoiler those images
Still, not making contact even now is still annoying
They just have to jump or walk forwards and then do the animation
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure
The battle animtations of Arceus were honestly good. Not amazing, but good. But now they went back to the same old 2013 animations
||I need this doggo in my life||
I think this is the A and B team I would use. Do we know if any of these are version exclusives? 👀
did anyone else have problems opening the game
like get stuck on an infinite loading screen?
For scarlet/violet?
yea
||Just realised that there’s not many new bugs types in gen 9, it’s just the spider, beetle and past volcarona form||
||And the Grasshopper. I'd say that is quite a lot. Not many fire types tho||
Oh right I forgot it existed
||I was looking at this and the grasshoppers ARENT ON IT||
GRRRR IM SO BLIND
Oh hey, so it turns out that ||The brown faced one is the female||
||anyone know how to fix th black screen after starting the game? the UI and everything else shows up but not the game||
||I don't understand the debate over Iron Valliant being Gallade or Gardevoir. I assumed it was meant to represent both. It's not like it's a new form of one, it's basically a whole new Pokémon.||
||Low-key wish they'd leak the movesets, I wanna see if Iron Thorns gets dragon dance||
||I know a lot of people prefer the past Mons but I think the future paramons will be more interesting in battle given that we'll probably see combination weather-surge teams with Iron Thorns and Iron Bundle||
||The past paramons are mostly just gonna be sun Mons||
||Paradox ability descriptions btw||
||Y'see what I mean? I mean I'm sure booster energy will also be valid but weather/terrain setting will probably be the comp choice||
||a sandsurge team would allow Iron Thorns to hold hot air balloon and still be absolutely stacked, and if you can not worry about earthquake, you could even hold assault vest||
||I just wonder how middle olive guy evolves. Probably through a stone I'd gues||
||I wonder if evolution is like Legends Arceus||
||Come to think of it, scarf sandsurge (or just surge) Iron Thorns is gonna be a strong pick, given that it's got Tyranitar's speed and in the past scarf Tyranitar has been used to outspeed Pokémon like mega Latias/Latios ||
||It's slightly faster than regular Ttar, even||
||It would essentially be scarf and choice band in one||
||oh it's for sure a good scarf choice on a surge team then||
||if it gets some sort of ground coverage it'll even beat out most of its threats||
||Of course that's disregarding Terastal||
||Still, I think it would be fun to see it get solar blade.||
||Run it with scarf on a surge/sun team with a protosynthesis Mon||
||Personally I would have taken 10 or so from Iron Valiant's Def stat and boosted it's special attack to match it's attack||
||No one's gonna run it defensively anyway||
Is there a place to look at the abilities of all mons?
Hmm, I'm not too sure if there's a sheet with them all in one place yet
||You can still transfer the other ones over but it appears all Vivillon in Paldea are this specific one||
Yeah, this is probably the dumbest thing about this game, and that says something
||Ah, so the different forms depending on the place in the world gimmic works in france but not in spain, sure
||
||Does deerling line have its forms?||
Hmm, I'm not so sure yet
Would hope so but ||if they don't it wouldn't be the first time||
||I guessed they just assumed nobody would care about vivillon enough to add all the forms (which is obviously
)||
I hope the frostbite mechanic from LA is in gen 9
Instead of freeze
Do we have any info about that?
Yeah we do. ||Confirmed not returning||
||:( that stinks ||
Apparently ||Hail got buffed I think?||
No wait, ||it's a new weather||
||Snowstorm, which buffs Ice defence||
||So hail turned into snowstorm?||
They might be separate
||Perhaps like sunlight and harsh sun?||
||True||
||I mean so long as snowstorm effected hail-based mechanics I think I'd be fine with them being two separate things||
||Could do the same for sandstorm with a Dustbowl weather||
||Y'know admittedly I'm T-tar biased but does anyone else think it's weird after all the emphasis of making Salamence and Tyranitar opposing exclusive Mons that Para-Salamence's opposite is Iron Valiant instead of Iron Thorns?||
||It would seem so since Aurora Veil's desc got changed to say it works in snowing||
||Dope. Given how ineffectual hail and Sandstorm damage is, this sort of thing is welcomed imo. Opens up opportunities for more Pokémon on ice teams.||
||I'm imagining snowstorm also buffs ice type attacks||
||bruh people are being homophobic to quaquaval 💀 ||
Yeah we get it, twitter sucks
this is tik tok
just as bad
the thing is it doesnt even make sense to be homophobic because the pokemon isnt actually gay
||My friend has a little theory on how each of the final evos of the starters represent different spanish and portuguese communities outside of the Iberian penninsula||
||Skeledirge has the general Day-of-the-dead Mexican aesthetic to it
Quaquaval may be based on the Brazilian Capoeria fighting style
Meowscarada may have references to Masquerades in Mardi Gras, something celebrated heavily in New Orleans and many other places in the US||
👁 👄 👁
||It's so funny to me that SV just has a system to look up all the ability descriptions||
||Do you know how relieved the leakers must have been?||
I may be overthinking this but this is interesting to me
||Because this feels like it implies protosynthesis causes a permanent boost in harsh sunlight, the same way beast boost applies a permanent boost when defeating opponents, until switching out.||
||Otherwise, why bother having the message saying it was activated? If it was only active whilst sunlight was up, wouldn't it just apply the buff without mentioning it like rock types in sandstorm, or the ability hustle?||
||And if that's the case, could you spam-swap between two weather setters in doubles and just continuously activate protosynthesis?||
||Or does the ability only activate once per swap-in?||
||I wonder how zero to hero works. Surely to god it has to either be activated under a special condition or have a time limit, because hero paladin has a base stat of 650 with 160 attack and 100 speed apparently||
||Does anyone know what it's deal is?||
Yeah I do
||When you send out Palafin the first time, he will be in his base form with his base stats. You need to switch him into your party and then back oit again for Zero to Hero to activate||
||I would assume so||
||I think they'll add the others in raids eventually.|| 🙂
||Seems like a reasonable choice to send it out first then. You could run flip turn, but I'm assuming zero Palafin isn't as fast, so it may just be a better idea to have a tank to swap to.||
||And maybe it is region-dependent? Nobody knows yet because it's region-locked per game.|| 😮
||Guess it's just a matter of getting Palafin activated Vs sending out a setter first||
||Nearly every team's gonna have a Palafin online I just know it||
||But having a rapid spin tank like Ferrothorn (who's also resistant to grass and electric) would probably cover shit like sending out Palafin into a Shuckle first turn||
||Honestly I don't see a lot of good guaranteed counters to it given how strong swapping out as an action is||
||Why, what does it do?|| 😮
Maybe give it a sash
||Palafin's 2nd form has 650 bst, his attack stat is the same as Regigigas and his speed is 100. His other stats are high too||
||Nah, not worth it, especially given that Terastal will probably lead to mfers like Crawdaunt spamming aqua jet||
||His speed is apparently the same in zero form too lmao||
||god damn||
||What!? That's madness.|| 😅
||If anything, the best thing to do would be view the drawback of its ability as a benefit instead. Your scouting Pokémon may not be a good setter, but you still get to scout and in return you get a 650 base stat Pokémon||
||As I said, paired with something like Ferrothorn which can rapid spin away sticky webs as well as resisting all of Palafin's weaknesses, the switching out is really no big deal||
||To me it feels like it will be too gimmicky. Same as regigigas or slaking ||
||No, absolutely not. You can't compare slow start or truant to this drawback because it's not even close.||
||Swapping out is one of the few almost entirely guaranteed actions in Pokémon. As it stands, Palafin's only counters will be arena trap or shadow tag Pokémon, both of which are incredibly easy to read and one of which can be nullified by a flying tera type||
||Yeah, I mean look anything can happen and perhaps there's some other downside, but from what we know now, Zero to Hero is not nearly the hinderance that Truant or Slow Start is at all||
||In comparison, slow start makes the Pokémon unusable for most of the time it is required and truant makes a Pokémon useless 50% of the time.||
||You'd still need to switch it in after that, which requires either a sacrifice or waiting until a mon of you faints naturally, which means that you are playing a 6 vs 5 until then and have limited options||
||Palafin wastes one turn, and then it is A-okay for the rest of the battle.||
||It really doesn't though. There are several options for support or tanks who have the ability to swap themselves out. Some even have regenerator.||
||I think you're entirely overestimating how much Palafin will have to be planned for in order to actually be countered.||
||If left unchecked, it is an insanely powerful Pokémon for all the drawbacks it has. It resists popular priorities in the way of bullet punch and aqua jet. A flying tera type takes away one of the abilities that could trap it. ||
||Why does he have to be so unpleasant looking though
||
||Nah, I feel like if you wanna use it, you gotta build your entire team around it. Making it a gimmick
Mon with insane attack stats are always nerfed some other way and I dont think this will change now
||
||For better or worse, Pokémon has been swap-heavy for a while now. Palafin blends perfectly into that gameplay and actively rewards you for it||
||I wouldnt call getting a competitively viable pokemon a "reward"
||
||The concept behind this mon is so good but the fact he looks like that ruins it for me||
||In my opinion, atleast||
||Yeah, the gimmick is fun (even if you guys are really overestimating this dude
||
||I think he'll be a pretty strong boy||
||But the whole angle that he's clark-kenting is so good||
||Dude last gen Galarian Darmanitan got banned for a setup which had 10x as many counters with 10x as many risks||
||Honestly I'd give the counterargument that him only looking like that in hero form saves the Mon for me||
||Because it being a temporary goofy op form is funny||
||And the rest of the time you still get an adorable regular dolphin||
||I don't mind the goofiness but there's something about him that I can't put my finger on||
||Like, it's not that he's buff. I love Machamp and Buzzwole||
||It isn't just competitively viable, though. It's as strong as Regigigas without being hampered by a normal typing. You have this idea that having a clean swap out is difficult and requires lots of resources dedicated to Palafin but like... If you don't have a good swap Pokémon to counter super-effectiveness in the first place, you probably don't have a good team to begin with||
||It's the eyes, right?||
||That's part of it||
||That's what my complaint is.||
||Plus I kinda wish it's symbol stayed as a heart in hero form :(||
||The way his arms don't look like they can move properly is another part||
||I doubt he could scratch his back||
||I mean, to be fair... Most dolphins can't.||
||anyone find any shinys yet? a freind of mine did, very jealous ||
||Most dolphins don't stand up and have arms||
||I kinda get you though, it's like they went hard on humanoid but not hard enough||
||Honestly I think it would have been funnier if they had just given it like big ass machamp arms||
||I'd be ok with that||
||I have no idea what the situation is with smash Bros but I know who I want the next Pokémon rep to be lmao||
||Hell, even if he just got into Unite||
||Honestly I hope there's a way to change tera types but I bet there won't be||
||Given that every Pokémon has a tera type which would be most beneficial I don't think there's any reason not to give your team a tera type that is like... At the very least, a counter to their weakness?||
||So I guess team building is gonna be fucking weeks longer than it was already||
But going with a completely weird and unexpected type might win you the mind games
I vaguely recall one of the trailers saying some types would be rarer than others for each mon
So there's that too
I wonder if the types will be shown in battle previews for competitive
but they are making IVs, EVs, and natures a lot easier to get
Source? Because if that's true I might actually piss
That's literally all I've been asking for
||Those exp candies are back at least ||
like they did in swsh
I'm gonna miss grit items
||do you guys think showdown will ban paradox's being on a team with their none-paradox counterparts like with regional forms?||
||That depends. Are you able to use Cofagrigus and Runerigus on the same team or not||
||Apparently yes||
||Can't wait for the half Volcarona half donphan teams||
||Then I imagine Paradoxes will follow-suit||
We need a 15 segment form
The stupid dunsparce evo is confirmed, right?
Yea it was confirmed yesterday
@fickle birch play the game and tell us 
Literally all I can find about charizard is the ||Tera raid|| one, which isn't a new form?
I don't have the means to play it. 😂
||But yes, it's confirmed. The "second form" everyone was hoping for is literally just the same thing, but with an extra body segment so it's slightly longer.|| 😦
I as good as predicted Cetitan's Shiny, the only difference is that the blue is orange. Sprite by Sphex from the Smogon server, I just recoloured it. 🙂
The new charizard form was revealed yesterday pretty late
||I can't find anything about a new form.|| 😮

That doesn't even make any sense lol
Yea I don't know why they made it a rock type
I will mail a pipebomb to gamefreak hq and no one can stop me
For legal reasons, this is a joke
||I will deliver it myself||
o boto
dudes :D
im happy game freak didnt ignore part of the iberian peninsula where i live
aka a whole country
and i was very scaried game freak was just gonna ignore my country because its less worldly known
Wait what?
funny, why should we spoiler-seal spoiler of SV Stuff in specific channel? 🤔 i mean people who don't wanna get spoiled can just mute this channel
Largely so that people cant get upset
@amber dune If you're talking about spoilers and leaks, use spoiler tags. 🙂
||I also don't know of any cork Pokémon, unless I'm just missing something.|| 😮
Same
||cetitan has sheer force as an ability and blizzard so if you put a life orb or something similar on one it boosts blizzard base power to 185 because blizzard has a chance to freeze||
idk if it was already said but smolivs final evos name is ||Arboliva||
||Sure but Cetitan is a physical attacker so :/||
||whatever ice spinner is might be a physical attacking move||
||also might get a freeze dry tm||
I don't get gamefreak's huge boner for slow ice types
Cold=slow so it's obvious an amazing design concept
Who the hell is Web Capio
What
They took down my pokemon video do they have any relations&ip to pokemon or that gay Pinocchio movie?
||he's growing on me : /||
Uhhh there was a triple fusion just leaked in S/V
||h a t s||
quaxly's evolution looking more like a brazilian pokemon
||is fighting... a rose?||
||it looks like a boxing glove||
Eh
||whats the green part then?||
||not sure entirely, probably just how the thing glows||
||no talky me angy||
||roses also grow, coincidence? i think not||
||more and mroe im thinking that these forms are jsut fusions, that looks like i has scraggy's evolution style mixed with bisharp, it even has the lizard skin tail||
||and that would also explain the gardevoir/gallade thing to be fighting/fairy||
||not a paradox form||
||paradox form? i tought they were calld iron forms or smt||
||yeah you're new to this info||
||is that the 3rd legendary?||
||also here is the sayd cork pokemon i was talking about if this is not a fake leak the sudowoodo will suposidly be a wine bottle, im saying that im not sure because it is not on the lsit of leaked mons but the list isnt completed||
||HA
F A K E ||
How do you do spoiler tags
||the list isnt complete.... the person who made it confessed so||
/ spoiler
either but || at the start and end of every scentence or select ur scentece with mouse and right click
I was going to drop the picture of the triple fusion legendary dogs but Im too lazy lol
||Oh yeah you are really far behind
dude the whole pokedex has already been leaked, broh||
but yeah so they triple fused johto dogs in S/V
||that is the only thing supporting the fact that gamefreak actually will do something with half of the region they are setting one||
||dam it, the broken legendarys from sword and shield are back :T||
Wait what
||but nerfed||
i hope so
||in fact they are their abilities now activate only once in battle||
||thats the evo||
||oh that isn't dunsparce.
that's dudunsparce.
Oh yeah, you're a newb.||
||doesnt change too much||
Exactly@odd cave
||he just gets longer||
||dunsparce^2||
Yes
||this is why i tought theyr forms's names were calld somethign with iron||
||they're just all named like that||
||yes. children and adults are students at the academy.||
||bro failed lunch 💀||
||holy dam i actually love this plants vs zombies garden warfare lookin dude||
Where is my boi
Oh. I think he will be|| the Funny NPC like Youngster Joey, Alola Mountainer or Ball Guy in Galar||
Why
||oops idk why i mistook it with the game lmao||
||the Wisdom of Solomon, the Strength of Hercules, the Stamina of Atlas, the Power of Zeus, the Courage of Archimedes, and the Speed of Mercury||
||i wonder how will wave crash be outside of PLA||

||kingambit's pulling a darkseid||
||I just remember him gliding around on a hover pad while standing in STAS||
||What about the evo method of middle olive guy to big olive guy?||
||Holy crap, so Dragalge is in afterall?
||
How I can see the TM Learnset?
because it's from this
Can you put the File or Link?
||Lmao you gotta get an abnormally large dunce to get an abnormally large dunce||
||https://pastebin.com/wKuA8ZRj||
have fun
||noooo not scald||
||that's eight feet of slamatude, baby||
||Yet it seems they have a new move that might freeze||
Because it's far too easy to apply for how op it is. It literally makes 90% of physical attackers worthless.
Oh yea I forgot it reduces attack or something
Tbh that’s annoying
||I miss movement like High Horsepower, just Ursaluna seem to still have it||
Wait it’s not in the game?
So dragon dance but bettee
Not Like TM at least
||well gotta transfer all my scald mons||
fucking pog
also guys, sorry to bother, but does anyone here have the party sprites of ||Skeledirge, Clodsire, Wugtrio and Garganacl?||
There are no party sprites anymore, they just use a shrunken png image of the 3D model
...that's what I mean
.3.
In that case, I’ve seen some of them blurry in screenshots
darn
Mean this
guess I'll have to wait until release to make my cool trainer card photo
mhm. also damn, ||is that really the evo? there's literally no change except getting bigger.||
Yes. Funnily look better this way that ingame
||Yes, Pikachu clone lame||
||AT LEAST IT FUCKIN EVOLVES LMAO||
btw, did we get full bingo yet?
||There was no new Eeveelution||
As for the story, ||seems the professor gets possessed by something and battles you in a final confrontation inside cyberspace||
this I will not be clicking
I watch the stats of Pawmi ||Evolution and Is all that Electivire want and not have||
||question, what about wugtrio? people said it has fucking 10 HP lmao||
||it has the same as dugtrio which is to say super low (35 base)||
||oh okay. does it have dugtrio stats exact?||
||yes i believe||
||oh.. not even a bulkier build? ;w;||
A Question. ||Is True that Water Tauros is Violet Exclusive?||
||yeah just super fast and hits decently hard. bad at everything else..... and unlike regular dugtrio which has the benefit of being good against surge i don't know what this will do.||
||be really fucking cool? :o||
||it gives me barbaracle energy though, and I love that mon, so..||
||and a unique move i guess||
||:o||
||either way, there's no such thing as a "bad mon" in a playthrough, and I love wugtrio.||
||pseudo legendary is ice/dragon||
||second game in a row I'm using a water glass cannon though..||
what was the first?
Barraskewda
||tbf my teams kinda do have a tonne of overlapping shit anyway, I usually have a normal type, a fast water type, two pokemon with the same type, and a ghost type.||
||fire, ghost, ground, poison, water, and rock is pretty balanced atm though.||
||might have to throw wugtrio to the B team though, sadly..||
||this is actually bulkier then wugtrio||
||faster, too. ;w;||
My team is the nightmare of anyone who cares about typing ballance 
Btw, I still dont know which version Dragalge exists in
||oooh florges!||
||actually, the professor wasn't even real! they're an AI!
They gotten overriden by the protection protocol in the second half of the fight.||
||is that smoliv's evo top left btw?||
yea
||Yep! Their final evo!||
||Really like the design, even if the 2nd stage is cringe. Wonder how it evolves
||
idk what i did but im sorry
oh word! I only saw a silhouette though.
tryna avoid leaks of shit I don't wanna see lmao
||probably evolves in a cringe way||
||also holy fuck, is there actually a reason to use wugtrio? Barraskewda stats on the left, Dugtrio on the Right.||
||forgot to spoiler it lmao||
||oh don't worry
the pawmi evos are the only s--t you'll have to bear with||
||Arena trap?||
||pawmevos are fuckin dumb bro. and I just know that shit is gonna be good cause it's revival move.||
||wugtrio has arena trap?||
idk
||but I kind of see them as like the chancey or audino of the paldea region; nurse mons||
||fair enough!||
||also what's Wugtrio's new sig move? :o||
i got you man
||triple dive!||
||shit because they all look the same? or are they hard to evolve?||
OH DAMN
||they look way too similar||
||ah yeah its weird||
||Dives for 3 turns
||
what's up with this one?
oh shit that's pretty cool ngl
||dark type version of revenge||
..payback?
||probably bigger than payback but idk||
alrighty
||still, I kinda see no reason to use wugtrio over barraskewda..||
||which is sad because it's a really cool mon :c||
yea, I'm dropping it, sadly.
welp, that makes my team slightly smaller .3.
3/6 now!
..man, where'd everybody go?
What are your three mons?
||Skeledirge, Garganacl, and Clodsire.||
Me when I see names 
oh sorry!
||fuecoco final evo, the salt rock final evo, and paldean wooper evo||
||Clodsire is fun to use||
||how come?||
||The rock final evo is really weird to me. Stage 2 as well... Tho it might be possible to play tetris with your team now, which is cool I guess||
||Whenever he attacks, big white spikes come out of his back||
||rock is my third favourite type, and it just scratches that itch so much, man.||
||OOOOOOOOOOOOOH||
Anyway, can I get you interested in a piece of ||Tumbleweed?|| 👀
||And I think Clodsire is more physical than quagsire so it makes use of poison tail and poison jab nicely||
||tell me where to find it and I'll look for it in-game
||
How should I know 
is there a scarlet and violet team builder yet?
idk
I hope so
||My friend found Tumbleweed going right from the main school, he went right I went left||
I don’t know where exactly
Has anyone who is already playing seen a Skrelp or Clauncher yet?
I have not
Didn’t realize skrelp was in I knew clauncher was
If I had to guess ||scarlet has clauncher|| but I don’t know for sure
According to this it is
I was kinda suprised with the amount of returning mons tbh
||Has anyone seen a paradox mon? I have yet to see one||
|| Not sure why it’s not on the list, it may be cut off but the final evo of Mareanie is in too I actually found Mareanie shiny
||
I heard the meta this gen is gonna be fucking atrocious
and I'm ready to watch the world burn
🔥 w 🔥
||Tbh idk how to get it my friend sent a “good” rip to me||
Some of these new abilities look like they are gonna play out very odd in comp
||For example I had a situation where I used a multi-hit move that got Clauf below half hp and the im pretty sure his new ability activated more than once from it||
||Also it activated after all of the multi-hit moves went off and not during one by one|| I want to test it a little more to see if i was actually seeing that right
||it would have been so cool if dunce was the psudo||
instead he just got a psudo evolution
||oh btw, is klawf a single stage?||
||he got some nuts drill abilities though||
I feel this should be spoilered too
||As far as I can tell yes, I haven’t seen any indication that it evolves||
yea its great it evolves now but eh
"a pseudo evolution" sounds very "I need to know context-y"
||word||
yea exactly
||HE GETS BIGGER AND LONGER AND THAT'S IT||
i do this so people are confused if they dont click the spoilers
large
blocking time :D
||I’m not super far, like 3 gyms, 2 titans and a couple star raids||
yes yes i am
||My highest level is like 29||
||dunsparce and his evo are like a penis; the only thing that changes is the size.||
I will be back later to converse gotta work
dam
lmao actualy blocked me
||dunsparce length||
||ngl, dunsparce's evo is very thematical of it's personality tbh.||
yea
Tierlist moment
just more derp
this is wrong the boi isnt S+++
||dudunsparce length||
||dudunsparce is a goober ngl.||
Here is the link cuz' I know someone will ask 
https://tiermaker.com/create/generation-9-pokemon-spoilers-13496
ty!!
I ain't gonna use it though
not yet at least
WHY IS IS ALPHABETICAL WHY NOT NUMERICAL
||bruh why is that salt one just NaCl||
because funny
fair enough
||Isn’t it nacli ||
||using the tier list as a possible team builder||
||Salty||
||might use these dudes cause i love them||
||hey this sounds douche-y but could you do this for me too please?||
||I'm tryna avoid dex leaks but I wanna do my teambuild ;w;||
||team is clodsire, garganacl, skeledirge, wugtrio and bellibolt.||
I CAN'T MAN :C
||your missing some dunsparces||
||how do i spoil images||
||you PC or phone?||
pc
try to paste it and then click the eye before uploading
Gamefreak can suck the dirtiest part of my bhole