pokemon-winds-waves

[forest egret]

Both the eyes and the belly are what it uses to charge and discharge electricity so it makes sense those are the focal points

or "eyes"

[smoky bison]

it kind of reminds me of kirbo

[forest egret]

It does have a little kirbo face

[plain valley]

This Mon is just not for me, I do not like anything about it. Simple as that

[forest egret]

That's ok lol

[smoky bison]

I just hope it has a cool evo

[plain valley]

That's the thing

[copper cliff]

it has the same vibe as palpitoed for me

[plain valley]

I don't think...it has one???

EXACTLY

I love Palpitoad, that things awesome

[copper cliff]

i hated palpitoed at forst but then i saw its animation in bw and instantly fell in love

[smoky bison]

It might not have one which would be a shame
There is a lot of cool stuff they could do to explore its design a bit more

[plain valley]

The biggest indicator for me id that it's a Gym Leaders partner/ace

It could be an early gym, sure

But with how SV is doing the open world

I highly doubt it's not a final stage

[forest egret]

According to leaks ||It does not have an evo, but a prevo||

[plain valley]

Not the moral dilemma of leaks

[smoky bison]

|| That's basically the same thing then, I am glad ||

[plain valley]

||Yeah,that would make sense||

[forest egret]

Are we able to get a full party of frogs yet

[sterile garnet]

Maybe

[plain valley]

Poliwrath, Gren, Seismitoad, Bellibolt

[sterile garnet]

Does bulbasaur line count as a frog?

[forest egret]

Poliwrath
Politoed
Toxicroak
Seismetoad
Greninja
Bellibolt

I would say so

[smoky bison]

LET'S GO FROGTEAM

[plain valley]

WOOHOO

[sterile garnet]

FROGS

Frogs

Frogs!

[plain valley]

Fuse all of them for the Lord and savior

[sterile garnet]

Hmmm i think a fakemon artist did that already

[smoky bison]

Abomitoad

[plain valley]

Bellibolt was just revealed today, people work fast, but not 20 mins fast....right ?

[sterile garnet]

https://twitter.com/bromojumbo/status/1580305672989970437?t=KhLdIyu9nLrJDgHF_gyqPw&s=19

JUM🅱️ORROR (@bromojumbo)

This came to me in a dream from last night / this morning. It’s name is Fribbinstein, it’s Electric/Ghost and I’m supremely sad it’s not real

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Twitter · Oct 12, 2022, 9:13 PM

[forest egret]

I saw this too yeah

[sterile garnet]

It's epic

[forest egret]

Saw someone pointed out that he looks a little bit like the beta version of Politoed

[south trellis]

frog

and vtuber

[forest egret]

Unlikely duo

[inland sparrow]

bellibolt looks weird
i love him

[slim tartan]

i too love bellibolt

probably gonna have one on my team

[lament glen]

Youre just saying that because it's literally a kirby face

[untold drum]

i see it more of a dinosaur but if it was a water type then yeah
or more rounded / less leafy

[smoky bison]

Watch it be a dragon type

[untold drum]

big steppy

i can kind of see the frog but its more dinosaur in my mind

[forest egret]

I think it's a frog, but with dino elements. Much like Kangaskhan being a Kangaroo who looks like a dinosaur

Gen 1 just be like that

[untold drum]

true...

gen 1 loves dinosaurs

[smoky bison]

it really is hard to find a gen 1 mon that isn't at least partly inspired by dinosaurs

[wanton idol]

gastly

voltorb

thats it

[viscid adder]

meet bellibolt!

reminds me a lot of this animated short
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhVehcHwOB8

Oh, and those bumps?
those are not their eyes!

This is their eyes

[fickle birch]

||First Drednaw and Grafaiai, now Bellibolt, I really don't know what they're doing when deciding how evolutions work anymore.|| 😅

[sterile garnet]

Why?

[lament glen]

||Whats up with Dreadnaw?||

||(Aside from being a lame mon )||

[copper cliff]

||i think theyre just trying to avoid always making final evos giant badass kaijus, for design variety||

[fickle birch]

||Yes, but making the designs look incomplete and as if they need to evolve doesn't fix that. Jumpluff and Ampharos are great final evolutions that look complete despite being cute, so are things like Manectric and Mienshao, which aren't super big kaijus either. .|| 😅

||These feel more like Gligar and Murkrow than Manectric and Mienshao.|| 😛

[copper cliff]

||maybe theyre leaving themselves room to add evos later ||

[viscid adder]

here's what this mon is based on!

the cuyaba dwarf frog!

[lilac needle]

magnemite

[lilac needle]

looks so happy

[fickle birch]

Is it just me, or does Iono's palette seem a lot more washed out in-game compared to the trailer? 😮

[vestal aurora]

I was just saying the same thing to my sister

[lament glen]

Would make sense since the game version probably has different lighting and maybe even textures

[fickle birch]

The official art is also really washed out. 😅

[vestal aurora]

About bellibolt

I can see my self enjoying it

But right now he's too derpy for me

[rich coral]

That has actually been true for a lot of things.
Many Pokémon have been looking washed out ingame in comparison to their spritework.,

[fickle birch]

I don't mind it, I do feel like a lot of designs are very derpy this time though. 😮

[fickle birch]

No but like, Iono's is even bad in comparison to the cinematic. 😅

Whereas Bellibolt seems bluer in-game. 😮

[quiet frost]

MAGNEMITE

[fickle birch]

https://tenor.com/view/magnemiteff-gif-21238757

[meager oasis]

Why does lono have sharp teeth is she a vampire

But anyway bellibolt is SUPER CUTE

Although I wish it’s fake eyes were real eyes :(

[icy forge]

||I am sure that Croagunk don’t appear between the old Pokemon in Paldea||

[indigo dagger]

Bellibolt for IF ,2068

[rich coral]

Gawr Gura reference.

[meager oasis]

idk what that is lo

[vestal aurora]

She has shark teeth and i'm scared

So far my favourite trainer designs from paldea are mela and brassius

[lament glen]

I don't like modern pokemon character designs. The older gens were more modest and not so crazy over the top, which I liked a lot more
Not that many of them were great, but just more inoffensive

Tho gen 7 had some pretty solid character designs. Team aether and skull all look cool and I also like lillie and the emo rival. Kukui worked well too, even if I wouldnt say that I like him

[white jungle]

Iono Want Sheet Metal!!

[patent rivet]

[patent rivet]

I think gen 6 went too far

[white jungle]

I think it's funnier that Gamefreak discovered the word Ion and are now desperate to use it as their cool new electric buzzword

Ion deluge, Iono, it's their new fun word

[patent rivet]

That's only 2 uses

[white jungle]

Plasma Fist also mentions ions when used

[late tendon]

I just reached the internet and gotta say I really like Bellibolt

idk what's the reason behind it's typing but I really like the fake eyes feature

Masquerain's new pal

[forest egret]

The electric typing?

[late tendon]

ye

[forest egret]

Ah, because his belly is a plasma ball

[late tendon]

ooooh

[late tendon]

that's really cute

I hope it's shiny's lightnings are purple then

[forest egret]

He's pretty cool ye

That'd be awesome

[meager oasis]

it’s definitely learning belly drum

Unless they decide to delete belly drum from the games…

[fickle birch]

I saw someone mention the Thunderbolt animation, it looks pretty nice. 😄

Hopefully most moves are more than just JPEG Hop. 😅

[vestal aurora]

Yeah the thunderbolt coming out of the belly looks pretty cool

[forest egret]

https://twitter.com/SuperBentendo/status/1581018069530382336

Ben BOOtoli 👻 (@SuperBentendo)

Ok, I fixed that new frog Pokemon
They are now Grimace

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Twitter · Oct 14, 2022, 8:24 PM

[vestal aurora]

Lmao

[rich coral]

I have to admit it did always make me wonder why its stomach has no translucency.

[forest egret]

You can sorta see it's made of greyish glass-stuff at an angle but yeah it's a little odd

[white jungle]

I think they should have had electromorphis charge when it takes damage, not just from an attack

That way, you could do belly drum, and it would charge your electric attack

[forest egret]

If it's slow, it will probably get hit before it uses its next attack anyway presumably

[white jungle]

Gotta give it an electric-type aqua jet

Air balloon, terastalise, belly drum, electromorphis, priority electric attack

Also I think they missed a trick with giving it static as a second ability

It should get galvanise imo

[gloomy inlet]

avocado 🥑

[little whale]

Flying Tera Type Magnemite will be on my team for sure

Giving the boi a Ground type Immunity he desperately needs

[lament glen]

while making him weak to Ice and Electric in the process

[lament glen]

When does the game come out again? Kinda wanna see all the mons, so I hope they'll leak soon

[alpine sandal]

November 14 I think

[vestal aurora]

18

November 18

[alpine sandal]

Eh, I was close

[viscid adder]

saw this on my tumblr and thought of you guys

[fickle birch]

https://tenor.com/view/legs-go-all-the-way-up-griffin-long-leg-peter-griffin-gif-14431672

[white jungle]

Iono may look cute but they suffer from severe breathing issues

[gloomy inlet]

MLP:EG moment
||my little pony, but human||

[rich coral]

Ok but this is not actually what the official art looks like is it?

https://twitter.com/SerebiiNet/status/1580910242757373955?cxt=HHwWhsCjlazfwvArAAAA

Serebii.net (@SerebiiNet)

Serebii Picture: Official artwork of the Gym Leader Iono https://t.co/gDbXkIa6cr

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Twitter · Oct 14, 2022, 1:15 PM

Oh god it is.

[fickle birch]

I don't think Sugimori does the art anymore, it's felt a little bit off since SwSh. 😅

Apparently, these are the Pokémon that won't be available on the Switch as of SV's release. Spoiler tags if you respond, of course. 😛

[forest egret]

I'm not too bothered by most of these dudes but ||Hoopa and Minior not being in is sad, I like those 2 a lot||

[fickle birch]

||Zebstrika|| not being in is what gets me, considering ||zebras are my favourite animals.||

[rich coral]

||Samurott not being in this list confused me, then, unlike Gamefreak, I remembered legends exists.||

[lament glen]

||Furfrou||

[vestal aurora]

||F for gen 5 starters||

[inland sparrow]

||the only pokemon on this list i'm complaining about is the snivy line||

[lament glen]

||Literally the best mon, this is so sad||

[white jungle]

||Furfrou ain't even a bad Pokémon it's pretty strong imo||

[vestal aurora]

||furfrou is poggers and snivy line is poggers why are they depoggering the games ||

[white jungle]

||That pissed me off about PLA as well, not including associated starters for Oshawott and Rowlett felt like a lazy missed opportunity.||

||I guess it's because they can save them for possibly more legends games with different regional forms||

||But Hisuian Grass/Dragon Serperior would have been cool.||

[patent rivet]

How is saying a theoretical regional Pokémon that isn’t related to the leaks at all would be lame a spoiler?

[fickle birch]

It's not, but the Pokémon itself relates to the discussion. 😛

It'd be like if we were talking about Machamp getting a G-Max in spoilers, and you said something to the tune of "I'd prefer if Machamp had a Mega". 😅

[patent rivet]

Nah, what I said was way less related than that would be

It’s like if they said Pikachu wasn’t in the game and I said Pikachu would look pretty funny with a mustache

[fickle birch]

Either way, it's gone now because there was implied context there. 😂

I'm very trigger happy with deleting spoilers, it's better to be too cautious. 🙂

[spare roost]

|| Sad that Leavanny line and Swanna line not in since again they'll not be on a switch game, just bring back dexit mons that haven't been in yet ||

[fickle birch]

||Or better yet, don't do Dexit at all.|| 😅

[spare roost]

|| better yet, just do the SM formula of not in dex but available to transfer into game ||

[static grove]

;-; ||no leavanny? Sad||

[gloomy inlet]

||pikipek|| line isn't in SwSh? 🗿🗿🗿

my favorite ||birb||

[heady rain]

bellibolt my beloved

i love bellibolt

bellibolt with no eye sacks

i like this more

[meager oasis]

I wish the fake eyes were the real eyes

[fickle birch]

Same, or at least that the real eyes weren't just yellow voids. 😦

[forest egret]

I like his mario toad face

[smoky bison]

wtf is a .jfif file

[heady rain]

yes

[vestal aurora]

I love that he is an avocado

[late tendon]

Anyone noticed that Bellibolt looks a lot like beta Politoed?

[forest egret]

Ye

[late tendon]

That's really cute

They just fused eyes with cheeks and made the limbs smoler

[icy forge]

I prefer the Beta Politoed 😅

[rich coral]

I had to imagine a Bellibolt wearing an open leather jacket and sunglasses with a tough guy persona.

[vestal aurora]

how does bellibolt wear glasses

on the actual face or in both?

[rich coral]

I imagine it uses the bulbs as support for the glasses.

[patent rivet]

I still don’t understand the point of having those fake eyes, it doesn’t really look like it’s the same sort of reason a moth has eyes on the wings to scare predators

[static grove]

Front facing animals are predators, and side facing animals are prey or something I dunno

[rich coral]

...it disguises as prey?

[patent rivet]

That’s clearly not true for Pokémon though

[white jungle]

I mean as far as we know all Pokémon are omnivores

At least when domesticated

[lament glen]

||The one thing I really like about this gen is that there seems to be a ton of new mons. They have been doing really low numbers since gen 6, but I think having a big number like gen 5 did is a good thing, as long as it doesn't come at the cost of quality when it comes to concepts and unique playstyles/gimmicks||

[copper cliff]

the proportions are actually fine, the clothes just make it look off

[lapis linden]

Kiwi out here saving anime girl lives

[white jungle]

She still has a tiny fucking torso but I don't think it's unrealistic

I've seen tons of girls with torsoes which are essentially squares

70% leg

[patent rivet]

So I guess she wears those Magnemite hair things to have fake eyes like Bellibolt

[fickle birch]

||Gens VII and VIII weren't actually too far off this one, honestly. If we get 103 here + potential DLC, VII ended up with 88 and VIII had 96.|| 😄

[vestal aurora]

||but this one is rumored to have almost as much as gen V tho||

[fickle birch]

||Oh that's just not happening.|| 😂

||The only way it is would be if you count regionals and such as new Pokémon, which for the purposes of the Pokédex I don't. I wouldn't even really count Paradox Pokémon, but they're said to take up Pokédex slots too for some reason.|| 😮

[patent rivet]

||But they’re still removing Pokémon to do this||

[gloomy inlet]

when ditto transform into bellibot (in Anime logic) ... hmm ... 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[patent rivet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260170566529449994/1031932540036075652/Screenshot_20221017-160849__01.jpg

[alpine sandal]

that's horrifying thank you

[white jungle]

Amazing

One image and I can already tell the artist is a furry

Which of course is more than fine

But it's a very distinct way of drawing animal characters

[patent rivet]

True

Like making every character much more fuzzy than they actually are

[white jungle]

Well, partly, but I'd say it's more in the faces

And honestly that tongue is kind of a giveaway too

[patent rivet]

I haven’t really seen enough furry art to know that

[white jungle]

As a man of culture I consume all sorts of art

[tired drum]

It fuels you

[viscid adder]

it would wear the glasses on its "nose"

the eyes are too far away

[gloomy inlet]

why don't they make a glass for rhino that looks like a headphone? 🗿

[viscid adder]

wait, hold up

that's how they wear masks

this is how they wear glasses

...also

[viscid adder]

to answer that question, that would require nintendo to create another pair of glasses specifically designed to fit the eyes of creatures that are far away from the face.
and they have to do that for around 40 to 50 pairs of eyewear.

[patent rivet]

Also it wouldn’t look as funny

[viscid adder]

yes and also it wouldn't look as funny

[icy forge]

https://youtu.be/38vMi09nQBA

[forest egret]

This was shown in one of the review copies they sent out so I don't think this counts as a leak, but yeah this is interesting

[lament glen]

So basically this mechanic will only be used to boost up stab moves to the point where they one shot everything regardless of resistances

[white jungle]

Okay so just

Make one Pokémon super overpowered

I mean I guess I like this more from a lore perspective? Because the Pokémon doesn't lose its original type powers through terrastalising? But if that's the case why isn't it just a third type (y'know aside from convenience)

It made more sense to me to lose everything about the original typing

[lilac needle]

oh lord that'd be OP with the attackers

[forest egret]

Adaptability mons are gonna destroy everything

[patent rivet]

And do certain Pokémon have their own special forms because GameFreak lies about wanting every Pokémon to be equal?

[forest egret]

I assume if they did they would've shown them off already

[white jungle]

||Bisharp Evo is also sounding super scary. Adaptability Bisharp is already one of the top Mons on smogon Almost Any Ability. Terastal would essentially allow it to have that, plus whatever stat gain it'll get evolving from Bisharp.||

||That sucker punch is gonna be terrifying. Not to mention the possibility of it keeping defiant. Sticky webs may take a major hit between that and Crawdaunt (aqua jet will be equally abhorrent to be hit by)||

[patent rivet]

||And what about Eviolite?||

[flint sequoia]

||I thought Bisharp was a paradox form not an evo?||

[forest egret]

Make sure to spoiler your text

@gloomy inlet

[gloomy inlet]

in this channel too?

[forest egret]

For potential leak stuff ye

The ||bisharp evo part||

[gloomy inlet]

🗿👌

[forest egret]

Ceruledge and Amarouge are fine since they're officially revealled

[gloomy inlet]

Amarouge and Ceruledge|| are Bisharp evolution|| /j

[forest egret]

👉 😎 👉

[gloomy inlet]

👈👈

[icy forge]

The Terastal seems to be a fun mechanic. Hope dont ban it in Smogon

[meager oasis]

it should be fine

dynamax was busted because it doubled your hp, gave you 3 z moves and gave stat boosts as well so you turn into a sweeper

and the only way to fight that was to use your own dynamax mon or run ditto on every team

[icy forge]

Sadly I also like Dynamax 😅

[smoky bison]

||https://twitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1583546023745851392 ||

Centro LEAKS (@CentroLeaks)

Your trainer in #ScarletViolet will have no explicit gender.

When you first start the game you will be able to chose a base "style" and then customize it. All options are available for all trainers.

You can switch between the more femenine/masculine base styles at any time.

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Twitter · Oct 21, 2022, 7:49 PM

This is pretty cool

[forest egret]

Oh yeah I saw this one too, it sounds neat

[smoky bison]

Can't be a femboy tho

[forest egret]

According to the review copies the customisation in this game for your trainer is actually pretty good, there's a decent amount of options

[meager oasis]

ooooh thats super awesome

[vestal aurora]

That's really epic

[gloomy inlet]

is Smogon from Nintendo? / official site from pokémon company?

[icy forge]

No. But is a good way to play competitive if dont have Time/Online

[white jungle]

||I mean it's running more defense and special defense than gurdurr, a bulky choice for eviolite (though ofc 4x weak to fighting.) Likely still really strong with dark tera type, because it'd make up for the lack of help from a strength boosting item and also make it a pure dark type (pure steel could work too with the extra bulk but item-boosted sucker punch is really it's best option at the moment and it doesn't get access to bullet punch as a substitute)||

[wanton idol]

hell yeah this is awesome

[patent rivet]

I hope the outfits and stuff in this game aren’t so expensive since I didn’t like that in gen 7, wanting to buy new clothes but also needing to save for healing items and such

[lament glen]

I never felt like it was badly ballanced in gen 7

[fickle birch]

It's clothes that are the issue, isn't it? 😮

[forest egret]

Hmm, I don't remember

I guess because your characters are students so you presumably won't get too many clothes to pick from

[white jungle]

||Hold up so instead of having an actually gender ambiguous character like they've so easily done in Animal Crossing they instead implemented transitioning?||

||Can't decide if that's less or more progressive lmao||

[fickle birch]

I heard there were only 4 presets you can choose from. 😦

[rich coral]

Regarding clothes ||free shirt choices have apparently been confirmed, we get 4 uniforms, but many other ones on top of that.||

[fickle birch]

||They have? Nice! Where's the confirmation, if you don't mind me asking?|| 😮

[little whale]

Blaquaza

[icy forge]

https://youtu.be/PF5UzdmOzPs

[vestal aurora]

me: clicking the video expecting to see something
video: premiers in 20h

[icy forge]

I hope they reveal the ||Ghost dog, and please be like a little Anubis||

[rich coral]

I believe it was in a 20+ facts video by... GameExplain?

[supple fern]

||Gengar bout to walk his dog||

[rich coral]

I read that to the beat of "Walk The Dinosaur".

[fickle birch]

||Gengar 'bout to walk his dog, Ursaring evolves in a peat bog.|| 😂

[viscid adder]

SET PHASERS TO HYPE

[patent rivet]

Set expectations to low

[viscid adder]

the two moods

[lament glen]

I wonder if they will reveal ||peepeepopo|| this time

[viscid adder]

||...peepeepopo?||

[fickle birch]

That's no way to speak about ||Enamorus, even though it's true.|| 😂

[viscid adder]

||yeah leave her alone!||

[lament glen]

||Peepeepopo|| is a codename for ||Minecraft|| ||Two|| ||DLC||

[plain valley]

HES SO PRECIOUS!!!! AAAAAAAA

[wanton idol]

he kills you lmfao

[fickle birch]

Are we spoilering officially revealed stuff? 😮

[icy forge]

Is…Well, not that I expected…But my family had a very similar dog…So guess is fine

[vestal aurora]

Doggo

[fickle birch]

I love it, so much. A new favourite for sure. ❤️

[copper cliff]

same, my childhood doggo was an old english sheep dog, im tearing up looking at this pokemon 😭

[vestal aurora]

Same, he's perfect

[copper cliff]

best doggo

[wanton idol]

just figured i would

[copper cliff]

him and herdier

best mops

[fickle birch]

Manectric and Houndoom are both in my top 10. Ghost mutt might override it. 😄

[copper cliff]

mega manectric is in my top 10 too, i like thr sillier looking dogs

[vestal aurora]

Mega manectric is epic

Mega houndoom as well

[fickle birch]

Its name is Greavard, new trailer just came out. 😄

[vestal aurora]

Greavard kinda sounds like graveyard epic

He looks so cute in game

[fickle birch]

I'm doing a Simpsons reference team, so Greavard is Ghost Mutt and Quaxly is Duck Sausage. 🙂

[vestal aurora]

Epic

Is lechonk spider pig?

[fickle birch]

If I have one on my team, absolutely. 😂

[vestal aurora]

I love this doggo too much lmao

I need it

November 18th is so close and so far at the same time

[viscid adder]

Awwwww so cute!

big doggo!

[lament glen]

I like this artwork. The ingame model less, but its also not bad

[viscid adder]

upon further inspection, he's a small doggo

also, it's kinda scary that just being near the doggo would drain your life force

[icy forge]

I would love something like this for a Dog Ghost.

Anyway like I always say. Its a bit ugly for me, but in a cool and “Pokemonesque” way

[fickle birch]

Ooh, if it evolved into that it'd be fun. 😄

[icy forge]

Also his lore is cute

[late tendon]

OMFG I LOVE GREAVARD

Friendly pupper ghost who can accidentally kill u this is so cute I

I just can't

[slim tartan]

are they... trying to replace my boy chandelure???

litwick*

[late tendon]

I think they're frens

[meager basalt]

I just hope it gets a cool evolution

[late tendon]

Until Greavard licks Litwick and extinguishes it

Accidentally

:)

[fickle birch]

It begins. 🙂

[icy forge]

If I have to bet by something for his evolution I bet by…

[slim tartan]

this is just a fuion of litwick and like lillipup

i love it

[patent rivet]

I think the dog looks cute

[vestal aurora]

epic doggo moment

maybe some aa in the fire

[fickle birch]

At first I didn't have the colours because I thought the muzzle was a separate colour, so yeah I can do that. 🙂

[viscid adder]

||possibility most likely!||

[patent rivet]

||Now we know what the Stoutland that died in the SM anime became||

[white jungle]

Greavard is a good dog

Reminds me of Stoutland, the best dog Pokémon

[forest egret]

I like the funny dog

Interesting that we have 2 mons now themed around life-stealing ghost candles

[viscid adder]

Get ready for a big mass of wax doggo

[meager oasis]

The litwick/stoutland fusion is looking great

Nintendo should join IF

[limpid depot]

I love that style of jaw

[meager oasis]

Me too

I saw people saying it’s bad because it’s just a normal dog with candle on head

Since when do normal dogs have giant trapinch jaws

Also when I first saw it I thought it was a train lol

[viscid adder]

also

hell yeah that design slaps

[forest egret]

I saw artwork on twitter of Greavard drawn as muttley, lol

https://twitter.com/Wyattoons/status/1584920100217524224?t=4CSHgOOMEfuW6xrzjicJWw&s=19

⭐️FAKEMON COMMS OPEN⭐️ (@Wyattoons)

Greavard’s design felt… familiar.

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[viscid adder]

OH SH
I also know what Greavard reminds me of!

This good boy!

[forest egret]

Oh yeah, he's got the goddard mouth

[viscid adder]

ok I'm totally naming this guy either muttley or goddard

[forest egret]

He's pretty cute. Interesting that they draw the lines in the fur, iirc most of the other pokemon don't have that detail

Like Stoutland, being all smooth and stuff

[white jungle]

I know it's like a first stage

But they really didn't give it strong jaw, huh?

[meager oasis]

Maybe it doesn’t like biting cuz it just wants to play

[forest egret]

Yeah the big jagged mouth is just supposed to be spooky, and its big to fit the large tongue

[white jungle]

It says it's jaws are strong enough to break bone

[meager oasis]

Oh

[white jungle]

Even if it didn't like biting it would still HAVE a strong jaw

[forest egret]

Any dogs jaws are strong enough to break bone

[white jungle]

I assume it'll be on its evolution, or a hidden ability (because as far as I'm aware they haven't shown hidden abilities yet?)

[meager oasis]

What about fidough

[white jungle]

They've shown multiple abilities for some Pokémon but I don't think they've designated any as the hidden ones, right?

[forest egret]

Fidough will maul you for funny

[white jungle]

Maybe I'm wrong, it would be weird if all these strong new signature abilities weren't the hidden ones but hey it's their game

I'm also realising how much potential they wasted by not giving Stoutland a great moveset.

[meager oasis]

That moment when you have to run strength as your stab

[white jungle]

The only regional dog blessed with the stats of a third stage

And what do they do? Just give it a bunch of attacks, no real way of boosting itself

Then they got rid of return.

Plus it gets sand rush which could make it such an interesting addition to sand teams but nooo

[lilac needle]

stoutland was actually pretty good in the tiers it was comfortably in until gen 8 where they removed return

[fickle birch]

This genrations seems to have some more Gen I-inspired features, like Cetitan being a random kaiju and more texture on most of the designs, as well as Bellibolt being just a blob. I like it. 😄

Also, continuuing the Greavard comparisons, its jaw reminds me of a Robomutt from Ratchet and Clank. 🙂

[meager oasis]

i did notice a lot of texture

although because of it im starting to not like klawf

just seems overdetailed and ugly to me now

[fickle birch]

Klawf overdoes it a bit, yeah. The more detailed Gen I Pokémon were mostly one texture, be it rocks, fur or whatever, with maybe a secondary one. 🙂

[white jungle]

I like Klawf but I don't like that it's clearly taking a Druddigon-esque niche

I can almost guarantee it's gonna be one of those random monotypes with poor stats

It's signature ability is cool, but I don't think it's gonna do much with it.

[forest egret]

mfw every pokemon isn't OU tier or above

[forest egret]

I like blob froge. I actually don't remember many hairy pokemon in gen 1 off the top of my head

I suppose Growlithe

And uh, Venonat

And Primeape. I think all of these dudes didn't have lines in their hair though. I think it's a neat detail though, does the shaggy dog look nicely

[meager oasis]

i thought klawf was water/rock type

[forest egret]

Just rock, he's entirely terrestrial

[meager oasis]

oh interesting

would of been cool if it was rock/normal type

since it has that normal type vibe to it

[fickle birch]

Yeah you're right, it fits Greavard really well. It's not like Lillipup which is really cartoonishly rounded (still cute, but very cartoonish). 😅

The last time we'd seen so many designs with textures other than rock was probably Gen III or so. Gotta make the most of the enhanced textures they're using. 😂

[vestal aurora]

ngl same

[errant dust]

I wanna know what Shiny Klawf looks like, I hope it is blue so I can Shiny hunt and name her Howie

[slim tartan]

Shiny greavard has to have a black shiny

[opal gull]

I hope ceruledge and armorouge swap colors for shinies

[opal gull]

eh thats a pretty bad type combo

[indigo sable]

I see no problem with having a x4 fighting weakness.

[meager oasis]

But we haven’t gotten a rock/normal type yet

Plus the type combo being bad shouldn’t affect what Pokémon has it

[white jungle]

Midday Lycanrock should have been rock/normal

Regional dog, fast enough to make use of it, stab Return

Midnight rock/dark, dusk rock/ground or rock/fairy

[forest egret]

I mean we did see it happen, lol

[narrow tide]

greavard is a pure ghost type right

[inner kernel]

Yea

[thorn siren]

Greavard looks like a dog that had a Litwick plopped on its head

I can't say I love the design, but I do like the attempt

[lilac needle]

I'm biased for dogs

I love it

[wanton idol]

time to

[icy forge]

I know Greavard is not that kind of Pokemon. But is a more realistic example of “Convergent Forms” than Digglet and Wigglet

[lament glen]

epic olive

This is me so far. Really like the epic olive and the paint dude, but all in all I don't feel drawn to a lot of the ones that have been revealed so far

[wanton idol]

olive is best

[patent rivet]

Or, you know, a candle

[pastel lark]

👀 are we doing tier lists now

[lament glen]

https://tenor.com/view/olives-olive-oil-more-olive-gif-15487077

[rich coral]

Any link to the tiermaker?

[patent rivet]

Google

[thorn siren]

coloring is too similar

It'd be neat to see a ghost type that isn't black, purple, blue or red

alas, they are a rare breed

[thorn siren]

why is the dog in S-Rank 💀

[inner kernel]

because it's cute :)

[thorn siren]

he's taking up space that Wooper needs to fill

unpopular opinion moment

[forest egret]

Grafaifai in S tier, based

[inner kernel]

it's okay to have different opinions!

[thorn siren]

fair enough

and you're not wrong

we can both go our separate ways, we with a Wooper and you with a Greavard lol

[inner kernel]

haha, yeah :p

[thorn siren]

real talk, Klawf is probably my favorite pokemon that's been shown so far

[patent rivet]

Everybody’s entitled to their own stupid option!

[thorn siren]

except you 😠

Jkjk-

[feral pawn]

hey guys this leak could be real. let me explain the hill of eyes which a movie about mutation is telling you about the pokemon type change about the turbo thing. a website says that While in battle a Pokemon can Terastallize to increase the power of any move with the same type as the Tera Type of your Pokemon. For instance, if you Terastallize a Sprigatito with a Grass Tera Type, any Grass moves will get a power bonus.

the three dogs in the pic is telling you about the dark dog fidough and greavard
the reigion has a connection with kalos i think thats it

[lilac needle]

it's a dog

[thorn siren]

Dogs are overrated
#TeamCats

[lilac needle]

I'm already biased because pupper

pupper is good and it looks so happy

[forest egret]

He's cute, both the dogs we've gotten so far are pretty cool

[fickle birch]

Yeah, I'm really happy that they're making more dog Pokémon. 😄

[late tendon]

I'm late but here's my tier list

[meager oasis]

Does anybody have the link of the tierlist thing?

Nvm found it I think

Ok made mine

[forest egret]

I'm happy to see Grafaifai rank pretty highly on most people's lists so far

[inner kernel]

It's a really good design imo and I've wanted a giraf Evo for eveerrrrr

[meager oasis]

A creative design too

Most of the fanmade girafarig evos turn the tail head into a bigger head

Oh wait

You said grafaifai

I thought you said farigiraf

oops

[forest egret]

Lol, it's ok Nachtowl said Giraf

[meager oasis]

Why are their names so similar

[forest egret]

Yeah a lot of them go the edgy "Evil head takes over" route but I like the concept that they've unified into one mind which makes their psychic powers way stronger

[meager oasis]

Fr

It’s cool we finally got a real giraffe pokemon too

Now WHERES OUR DOLPHIN AND KANGAROO POKEMON

kyogre and kangaskhan are a bit too monstery to count

[forest egret]

I think Kyogre isn't that much more monstery than an actual orca

[meager oasis]

true but it also has a lot of whale elements too

[inner kernel]

OH I can't read lmao

Grafaiai is good too :)

[fickle birch]

Here's my tier list. 😄

If Farigiraf had a little stubby tail, it'd be in A. 🙂

[forest egret]

Pretty cool list, I'm surprised you put Armarogue and Ceruledge so high, for some reason I figured you wouldn't like them

[ripe thunder]

The new Wooper should be tier Z in every list

It looks like a generated sprite

[forest egret]

Lol. I sorta see what you mean but I'm ok with him. I think depending on how Quagsire will look is gonna affect if I bump him up one or not

[ripe thunder]

I have a feeling that Quagsire is gonna be better too

[forest egret]

I'm hoping he has a skull pattern on his head

Besides I've always liked Quagsire more than Wooper

[ripe thunder]

Mine

[forest egret]

Pretty cool

[ripe thunder]

S tier might be biased

[forest egret]

That's ok, I mean it's just judging on which ones you like more

[limpid depot]

Seems like ya really don't like the ones that are more derivative of old mons heh
I kinda agree tbh
There's more that can go wrong with em since there's an easy comparison

[forest egret]

Pawmi specifically doesn't seem to get much higher than mid tier for anyone here

[ripe thunder]

Yea. I very not like the redux that they'll made to old mons

No megas and very little regionals

I don't like megas as concept

And I kinda like regionals but I don't usually love the designs they go with

[ripe thunder]

I biased in the sense that this generation region is mainly inspired by Spain and that's where I am from

So those mons that remember me of Spain might get boosted in the list

[lament glen]

I am just biased towards little olive guys

[forest egret]

Lol, i don't think that's biased at all, in fact I would consider the spanish connection for these dudes to be a plus from a design perspective

[ripe thunder]

I hope the shiny is a black olive even if I hate them irl

[fickle birch]

I hesitate a lot, but I can't deny that they're really cool. 😂

[forest egret]

I'm the same way. I know deep down they're just... dudes in armor and probably not that great for a pokemon design, but they're just so cool looking and I love them anyway

[fickle birch]

They really do look like Mega Man characters, but Mega Man characters look cool so who cares? 😂

[limpid depot]

They kinda just
Look enough like gallade to feel natural lol

Like, there's a precedent to pokemon looking like that so I don't mind much

[forest egret]

That's true too. I actually don't care much for gallade, I do prefer these dudes way more

They do look like if Gallade got fused with a mega man robot

[meager oasis]

i keep forgetting they exist

because they are so generic to me wheeze

[inland sparrow]

yes

[solemn aurora]

Hello, I got word that i have to post anything pkmnscvl relevant here

[forest egret]

Very cute, love it

[solemn aurora]

Second frame 😠

[forest egret]

Lol, I like the grumpy face

[solemn aurora]

It's not as faithful as the current Bellibolt because the style is in FRLG and that's my niche as a spriter

In fact, I literally used Chansey's FRLG body XD

[forest egret]

To be fair he is literally just chansey shaped lol

Face is even in a similar spot

[copper cliff]

i love this little man

fantastic sprite

[fickle birch]

Looks good! Too much dithering, though. 😅

Oh, you said FRLG style. Dithering is okay then. 😂

[patent rivet]

The belly orb be left more also

Is Bellibolt really big, or is she just really small?

Ah, I see

[forest egret]

She's a tiny deformed gremlin

[rich coral]

A tiny deformed torsoless gremlin.

[icy forge]

Yes. And Iono is small too

[lilac needle]

both :)

[viscid adder]

There's nothing wrong with small peeps!

[vestal aurora]

True 😩

[lilac needle]

exactly

[wanton idol]

20 days until release i think

[lament glen]

The one piece game also releases in november I think

Thought it looked really bad (and still kinda do) but I saw a trailer today that shows that there are real actual locations from the story you can explore, which is pretty cool and kinda giving me at least a little bit hope

tho idk why using locations from the story for the game settings isn't the default for one piece games. but 99% of them are trash anyway so whatever xD

[vestal aurora]

Yes, yesterday was exactly 3 weeks away from release

[wanton idol]

tomate talking about one piece in the gen 9 channel

nothing new

[vestal aurora]

One piece is the scarlet violet dlc

[lament glen]

Crap, I always thought this was the ||games that technically have a ton of potential but will inevitably end up dissapointing me|| channel

[wanton idol]

you will never be happy with any new pokemon games

[lament glen]

You're 100% right about that, but that doesn't mean that they couldn't technically do great stuff without requiring so much effort that it probably wouldn't really be possible short/middle term

Examples:
-A pretty faithful mystery dungeon 2 remake using the same HD2D style as octopath and so on, but without adding tons of new features that breakt the game like they did with the remakes of mystery dungeon 1. They could add all of the new mons tho. Would be cool to have them all in the same pixelart style and having these profile windows for them
-A normal new pokemon game that has an optional exp share, difficulty options and that is actually polished and doesnt look like a muddy pixelsoup, even if the game itself ends up being smaller scale as a result. And new animations or even new models for some mons would be cool, but that will never happen. We're close to the 10 year anniversary of the current models and I'm sure they will also celebrate their 20 year anniversary

[opal gull]

I mean we at least have evidence of eelektross improving

but yeah :/

[white jungle]

Pretty sure it'll be a different regional Evo. I'm hoping it either leans further into the axolotl theme or it goes for an actual irl poisonous salamander. Either way I reckon it won't be Quagsire.

The scariest part is that, given the nature of Paldean Wooper, a regional Evo called Quagmire would be appropriate

[lilac needle]

oh god

[white jungle]

It would be cool if it got a regional which built it more for offense but unless it becomes fast I don't see that being any good

At the very least, it's nice to see a type absorb ability on a Pokémon actually weak to the associated type

It's such a good way to make certain type combos more useable but Nintendo is so chicken shit about it for no good reason

Most type absorbers I can think of are neutral or resistant to what they absorb

Gastrodon, Chandelure, Cradily

[quiet frost]

I really liked the one piece fighting games on like ps2. I had one piece grand battle and played that a lot

[lament glen]

There is a gba game that looks really good to me. Hopefully I'll get around to checking it out one day

https://youtu.be/Vsd-xpFnAl4

[quiet frost]

The fighting games are generally ok. And it looks fun. (To be fair I am fairly laced on one piece games because I love one piece so much. It’s like how a Pokémon game has to be very bad for me to dislike it (has happened once ||sun and moon||)

[lament glen]

But sun and moon are the only good 3D pokemon games

But yeah, the one piece fighting games look fine to mee as well. It's stuff like World Seeker or whatever it was called that really dissapoints me because the direction they went in is just such a waste of potential

And then there is also the Pirate Warriors stuff, which looks high quality and all, but that genre is just completely unplayable to me, regardless of the IP they use xD

[patent rivet]

ORAS is pretty good since it’s based on RSE

[lament glen]

fair

Tho I prefer the originals all in all

[quiet frost]

I loved x and y. Like I know there incomplete but the things they did have were awesome. Bench sitting, becoming a duke, awesome outfits (my favorite of all the customization) roller skating. The only issue was that the gym leaders only had 3 mons and there were a lot of things that seemed like they would be something and were not. My main issue with sun and moon is that they are the hardest to replay which is an issue for me when it comes to Pokémon games

[wanton idol]

i love sun and moon

[lament glen]

The replayability is definetly the biggest issue of sun and moon. But the region design, overworld graphics, music, atmosphere and story are just really good and arguably the best in the entire series imo

When it comes to x and y, I really don't vibe with the chibi overworld designs. But the story is my biggest problem. There is just nothing to it. And Team Flare was so bad that gamefreak abandoned the idea of classical real evil teams forever and never went back to it

[alpine sandal]

hot take USUM were awesome

[quiet frost]

It was but it just came out at the wrong time

[quiet frost]

I will admit that the x and y felt lacking but to me going from 2d to 3d was so cool I kind of accepted it

[white jungle]

Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon were DLC made for a time where DLC wasn't necessarily as popular a move for Nintendo because the 3DS eshop was clunkier

Had they wanted them to be genuinely great, they would have played more like sequels. Or more properly like alternate realities much earlier

[quiet frost]

I would have liked them a lot more if they came out instead of sun and moon

[white jungle]

Exactly

They were great expansions to Sun and Moon, and were definitely better than their base games, but it meant replaying Sun and Moon

[quiet frost]

It was basically that they released a bad game then replaced the good version a year later for the same price

[white jungle]

Which has maybe the worst beginning sequence of any Pokémon game

[quiet frost]

Like like 10-15 mins to get a starter in son and moon. It’s much faster in ultra

[white jungle]

And don't get me wrong I've heard the counter argument that it takes a long time because it's a story intensive game, I get that, lots of story is fine

But as with ALL Pokémon games, everything moves 10x slower than it needs to

[quiet frost]

But put a skip scene option

Like hold b to skip

[white jungle]

There's a reason even standalone fan games not attached to an emulator typically have speed up buttons

Because Pokémon games, their animations and their dialogue are the slowest thing on earth

You cannot go faster than the speed of light and you cannot go slower than a Pokémon game.

[quiet frost]

I will say I was dissapointed that the jellyfish lusamine battle was removed. I liked lusamine being evil. I liked the ultra necrozma fight but I wanted a more evil lusamine

[white jungle]

Pokémon Sun and Moon would have made an amazing console title imo

[lament glen]

Nah, they are definetly worse

The selection of mons is bigger, but thats it. All the story beats and character developments are ruined in USUM sadly...

[quiet frost]

A great jrpg for consuls then I would say make it longer

[white jungle]

They were also a great example of a region with lots of water without forcing you to surf a lot.

cough Hoenn cough

[quiet frost]

Yeah I like evil lusamin and the anther foundation being the big bad. Not a mysterious evil Pokémon. But I think ultrasun and moon were still a better playing experience

[white jungle]

Ironically, as we've transitioned into an open world environment where surfing would be far more appreciated water areas have actually regressed and become more mundane imo

[icy forge]

Funnily, I dont like that From Alola Games. And I love Alola Games 😂

[lament glen]

I also prefered the totem mons of sun and moon

Wishiwashi and the lizard lady worked just so much better than the mons they got replaced with imo

[quiet frost]

I did not remeber what game had which. But I feel like I was the only person who did not stuggle with them. I think I like one shot all the totems so I don’t remember any that well. I understand that they were apparently hard but I didn’t have that experience and I never replayed other then ultrasun

[lament glen]

Gen 7 are definetly the hardes pokemon games ever made, I dont think there is an argument there. The boosted totem mons are one thing, but the 1 vs 2+ wild battles are the biggest factor I think

But yeah, the games can really be quite hard, especially when you dont use the exp share and z moves. The difficulty is really enjoyable all in all imo

[quiet frost]

I did whip to illuma the first trial captain and his smeargle

[tired drum]

I only ever go back for sos method shiny hunts

[gloomy inlet]

ok so, i get this joke from instagram, originated from twitter, i guess
Mega Evolve
Gigantamax
TeraStalize
Petarmor?

[forest egret]

Huh, that's actually sorta interesting. It's probably a coincidence since gen 7 didn't follow it, but that's still cool

[patent rivet]

Also peta isn't something the common populace actually uses at all

Besides Peta, the animal murdering company

[quiet frost]

Petarmor…. Pet armor…. It makes sense

[static portal]

Probably the next “team”

Team peta

They act like team plasma but then they kill some pokemon for their good

[gloomy inlet]

idk about that, something i know is "peta" is map 🗺️

[fickle birch]

#general 😛

[fickle birch]

And they hate Pokémon, so that'd be a whole thing if real. 😦

Might be Ultra or Hyper something next time, they just use words that mean big/powerful. 🙂

[meager oasis]

ultra wouldprob get confused with ultra beasts

unless the gimmick revolves around them

which would be cool

[fickle birch]

I wish the Ultra Beasts just didn't exist. 😦

[meager oasis]

o h

[vestal aurora]

Blacephalon and naganadel deserve existing tho

[fickle birch]

Naganadel's the best one, yeah. 🙂

[vestal aurora]

And buzzwole but that one just for the memes

[fickle birch]

But I could do without Nihilego, Xurkitree, Kartana, Celesteela, Guzzlord (meme anime cry aside), Blacephalon and Stakataka. 😂

[vestal aurora]

Guzzlord has the best anime cry

[forest egret]

Funny, I honestly think Naganadel's my least favourite of the UBs. I love Poipole though

[fickle birch]

Poipole's good, yeah. 😄

[lament glen]

Noooo, not Nihilego my favorite

It has such a cool design and running into it for the first time in my blind moon playthrough was probably the coolest moment I've experienced in pokemon

[vestal aurora]

And nihilego fused with lusamine is a banger design

[forest egret]

Even if it's a missed opportunity for a boss fight

[lament glen]

And going to ultra space was just super sick visually and from an atmosphere point of view, even if it ended up being underexplored

And Nihilego was one of the coolest crys

[white jungle]

Buzzwole, Xurkitree and Guzzlord are the best beasts from a design standpoint

And Guzzlord is one of the best in the anime because of the fucking scream

[fickle birch]

I did some Shiny palettes for Greavard, hopefully we get one of these. 😄

[vestal aurora]

The bottom right 😩

[forest egret]

Nice. I think I like the green flame one the most

[fickle birch]

Green flames are the best flames. 🙂

[lilac needle]

I'll keep Blacephalon, Naganadel and Guzzlord (the latter purely for the meme cry)

[patent rivet]

Team Plasma

[white jungle]

I wish we saw Team Plasma grunts sometimes

Cuz we know there are some of the OG's who keep the more armoured style and follow N's example

And N is roaming the world

So the fact we haven't seen N or any of the OG plasma grunts is a bummer

Especially when it could be a chance to show us one that isn't ginger

[vestal aurora]

Team plasma is proof that gingers are evil

[fickle birch]

Team Flare is further proof that they are evil.

Pokémon games have an anti-ginger agenda.

[opal gull]

hair dye/wig was mandatory part of the uniform

[meager oasis]

My favourite UB is prob stakataka

[rich coral]

No that just came with the victim complex.

[white jungle]

Theory that ginger hair was common in Feudal Unova and that's why Ghetsis has ginger grunts, it's aesthetic

Extension of this theory: Drayden is an immortal like AZ, and before it was white his hair was ginger

[fickle birch]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-golden-freddy-but-thats-just-a-theory-a-game-theory-game-theory-gif-24610486

[meager oasis]

I hope the whole dex gets leaked

I wanna see all the cool stuff

Although then it’s difficult to know which leak is actually true or not

[rich coral]

Ooh, I wanna see!

[vestal aurora]

I don't care about design spoilers lmao, as long as they don't leak the story i'm good

[fickle birch]

A lot of stuff is going to be so, so fake, so be ready for that. 😢

Khu confirmed that a picture of the PC UI is legit though, ||it's very blue||. 😅

SV's UI in general is kinda... bad.

[icy forge]

Sound silly but I wanna see wich Pokemon receive a boost in stats

[spare roost]

Ready for the game to make another mon viable, like they did Masq in SM

[lament glen]

Masq?

[spare roost]

Masquerain

Gave them +20 spatk and it became a terror on Guzma’s team

[fickle birch]

I think every fully evolved Pokémon should have a BST of at least 450 or so, honestly. 🙂

[lament glen]

Nah, I like some mons being weak

Makes them more fun to use for me

[patent rivet]

Well you could just give all your Pokémon Everstones if that’s what you care about

[lament glen]

Person 1: "We should buff all the weak non-pawn pieces in chess so that everyone is equally strong!"
Person 2: "Nah, you also need to have weaker pieces."
Person 1: "Why don't you just use pawns then?"

Same energy kinda

[fickle birch]

Chess only has a few pieces though, not 900 (soon to be 1000). It's balanced, with every piece serving a valuable function. Pokémon hasn't been anywhere near close to that ever. 😅

[smoky bison]

I think mons should at least have some form of niche if they are not very strong

[icy forge]

If I can decide I would give some Special Attack to Noivern (10-20 points) and surely Special Defense to Stonejourner

[lament glen]

They're completely different types of games of course, it just came to mind

[lament glen]

Idk man, I think Spinda is perfect as it is

[smoky bison]

It has a niche with Assist

and contrary

V-Create contrary is a cool strat

[lament glen]

I didn't know if had any of that

[smoky bison]

You get a victini with only v-create in your team and a full team of spindas. Let the spamming begin

[patent rivet]

One person wanting there to be Pokémon who at their strongest are still extremely weak instead of just using the weaker forms is not the same thing

[white jungle]

Person 1: hey maybe devoting time and resources to something which is entirely useless to 99% of all players is a bad idea

Person 2: well actually I can't be bothered to manually weaken myself, so I think that's a bad idea.

[clear lotus]

17 more days

2.5 weeks

[lament glen]

Any funky full dex leaks yet?

[clear lotus]

it'll never come but i wish for a new trubbish evo or regional form

trubbish my beloved trash

https://tenor.com/view/gstarludi-trubbish-garbage-wink-wink-wink-gif-25660718

[lament glen]

Didnt it get a new form last gen?

[limpid depot]

Yeah it was literally the only non-gen-1-or-8 gigantamax

Unless ya like trubbish exclusively and not garbodor lol

[clear lotus]

oh

yes

garbodor is ehh

we got wooper regional variant tho

def gonna add in my team

fuecoco sprigatito or quaxly

[lament glen]

None of them are terrible to me, but none are great either

[fickle birch]

My team so far (leaks included, so may change depending on the designs): 😄

||- Duck Sausage the Quaxly

• Ghost Mutt the Greavard
• Five Alarm the Grass/Fire pepper
• Livingston the Electric/Flying seagull
• Stampy the Paradox Donphan (don't know which one yet)
• ???||

[viscid adder]

believe it or not, i select my 'mon based on their final evo

I picked litten because it evolved into incineroar, which reminded me of rath
I and picked sobble because the final evo looked sleek and cool

and here's rath for reference

[clear lotus]

makes sense

[viscid adder]

also, he has finger guns

pew pew

[lament glen]

I only liked decidueye out of the last few gens woth of starters

But decidueye is a really really well designed mon

[clear lotus]

damnit no gifs

[patent rivet]

Primarina is nice

[smoky bison]

Do we have final evos yet?

[patent rivet]

Not officially

[white jungle]

I'm desperate for someone to redraw Rath and the baby Tiffin (from his debut episode) as Incineroar and Alcremie

[viscid adder]

yeah same
it's also kinda the first starter mon to be blatantly feminine in design

which I don't mind

he's such a role model!

[lament glen]

What about the gen 6 fox?

[urban owl]

Delphox?

[limpid depot]

Yeah that one was blatantly feminine already a generation before

[urban owl]

Not really

At least not in official spritework

[lament glen]

This is a feminine looking design in my book. It even has a skirt shaped fur thingy

[urban owl]

Braixin is not delphox lmao

[patent rivet]

And Delphox was a witch

[urban owl]

Or warlock

[lament glen]

I doubt they'd change their angle within the evo line lol

[urban owl]

Idk man

We talkin full evo design.

Not the line

[lament glen]

same thing basically

[patent rivet]

Delphox looks feminine

[urban owl]

Not in my opinion from the in game sprites

Unlike prim

Delphox looks more androgynous imo in X and Y

Everywhere except home has it just standing there straight

[lament glen]

Like 99% of all 3d models

[urban owl]

I mean, sure. But even in the 3d model Primarina is feminine ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[limpid depot]

I feel like Delphox is still definetively meant to have something that resembles a dress
Not to mention the thin eyes that are generally commonly used in feminine designs, at least in pokemon's style
Also it sounds like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irQ98GpkSog

[lament glen]

And then there is also Roselia and Roserade

But Nihilego wil always be my favorite feminine mon

[lilac needle]

what?

how is Nihilego feminine?

it's an octopus parasite thing

[urban owl]

Think about it

in the context of gen 7

[lilac needle]

oh

[urban owl]

cough Lusamine cough

[thorny marlin]

Im taking the grass starter for the first time. dont like the design of the pepper or duck

[lament glen]

It is also stated to behave like a girl

or something like that

[forest egret]

It's designed that way to invoke a creepy feeling

The fact that this alien jellyfish, with no real humanizing features, still acts and looks like it's dressed like a little girl

[patent rivet]

I guess Lusamine made Lillie dress like it too

[forest egret]

That is the implication yeah, though it is weird that Lusamine looks like Pheromosa. Maybe they had different plans in the story early on for the Ultra Beasts to include all of them instead of just Nihilego

[lilac needle]

maybe Nihilego and Pheromosa were the first ones to have a concept for them so that's why they're more obvious parallels?

[lament glen]

Nihilego was designed with the story in mind for sure

But I feel like Phersoma could also just me more of a coincidence

[patent rivet]

I doubt it, considering the official art of Lusamine and Pheromosa are in the same pose, just mirrored

[white jungle]

Actually Lusamine was based on Pheromosa, it was created first

But it was so feminine and they were so down bad

That they made it a milf.

[patent rivet]

A skinny small breasted milf

[white jungle]

Wooooow now we know how Knuckles feels about less mainstream body types

Shame

Shaame

[patent rivet]

All I’m saying is that milfs usually are thick and big booba

[white jungle]

Not always, any attractive mum can be considered a milf

The thick part I believe is common place because it's like the supposed post-kids body

But Lusamine's weird so she probably like

Ironed her stretch marks

Or something

[patent rivet]

Or she’s just a fictional character

[white jungle]

No that's dumb

[limpid depot]

Tbh there's a bit of a theory that all ultra beast were initially designed to mirror some of the human characters but they kinda just gave up halfway

So some ended up obvious, some ended up kinda plausible if you stretch it and the last few just had nothing to do with the idea

[rich coral]

To be fair, the most clear are actually addressed.

As much as I dislike Lillie's second outfit, it is definitely good she got a new one...

[limpid depot]

I mean yeah they address lilie
But I fell like Guzma's and Lusamine's connection is pretty undeniable
Hala's too tho I understand if ya disagree on that one
It's a weird pattern they only address with lilie and nobody else

It's sorta similar to the Normal type gay dude and the Fairy type painter girl being potentially swapped in development, once ya see it, it just makes sense that something happened here

[indigo sable]

It's a robe, because Delphox is a wizard/priest.

[white jungle]

They would literally have convinced me more with Gladion/Necrozma

"What could Buzzwole represent? I know! The sickly emo child!"

[limpid depot]

To be fair
Buzzswole was always revealed and paired with Pheromosa
So for a while we only knew of Nihilego and Pheromosa, the ones most obviously linked to Gladion's family. And then the mosquito was there, so people made the connection
Even if I think it's the weakest one by far lol

This theory basically existed since ultra beasts were revealed

[fickle birch]

I thought it was meant to have a sorceror's robe. 😅

[fickle birch]

They were swapped? 😮

[fickle birch]

What would you think if Greavard became this? I saw this fanart and I love it. 😄

[forest egret]

It's well drawn, but it seems to have removed the overly large jaw from the design

[late tendon]

ye, the drawing is really good! but for my tastes, it's another generic looking dog that doesn't change much in Greavard's design besides the long legs

but I can see that happening

it just won't stand out if they do something like that

there's sooo many interesting dog shapes besides arcanine-mightyena-boltund style

[forest egret]

Yeah my thoughts exactly

[late tendon]

for some reason I thought about komondors and I'd absolutely love to see it as a Pokemon someday

[forest egret]

Oh wow

[fickle birch]

I don't see that as a bad thing. 😅

That's my least favourite part of Greavard's design. 😛

[late tendon]

that's my the most fav thing for sure

[white jungle]

Too much Mightyena not enough Stoutland

[fickle birch]

Digimon did it. 😛

[late tendon]

they look like a really thick floor mop

[forest egret]

I want mop dog

[forest egret]

That's sad, I think it makes him stand out in a good way

I also like his gigantic tongue that flops out

[fickle birch]

This bit I do like, yeah. 🙂

Though dogs' tongues only really flop out when they're thirsty. Get the lad some water. 😢

[forest egret]

He's thirsty from hanging around under mud all day

Is anyone else slightly annoyed that google doesn't recognize "greavard" as a thing yet and keeps trying to change it to "Graveyard"

[fickle birch]

Doesn't do that for me? I also added it to my autocorrect, as I do for every Pokémon name. 🙂

[forest egret]

Interesting. I just turn off autocorrect

[fickle birch]

I make too many mistakes when I'm typing to turn it off because I like to type quickly. Has its own side effects in that I often just type gibberish that needs drastic reworking. 😂

[forest egret]

Fair enough

[gloomy inlet]

mooland

wait wait uh... stoutland

[late tendon]

stoutland isn't komondor, it's, ahem, " a combination of a Shih Tzu and a Maltese with some characteristics from Yorkshire Terriers and Scottish Terriers. Its talent for rescuing humans in the mountains and sea also make it appear similar to St. Bernards and Newfoundlands"

thanks bulbapedia

the most unique komondors trait is their thick dreads so if there will be a pokemon based on komondor it'll need those to represent the breed

[patent rivet]

Add a small barrel of alcohol hanging from Stoutland’s neck

[late tendon]

water/psychic regional form

[viscid adder]

poison/psychic, too
if you like

[fickle birch]

We don't have a Poison/Psychic Pokémon yet, do we? 😮

[patent rivet]

Galarian Slowbro

And Slowking

[lilac needle]

yep

they were the first, obv

[fickle birch]

Ah, you're right. I always forget that they exist. 😦

Although they're Psychic/Poison, not Poison/Psychic.

[white jungle]

Still no bug dragon

[quiet frost]

i mean do we need a bug dragon?? it would not be great.....

[lament glen]

It would be better than yanmega

[quiet frost]

i played some rom hack where flygon was bug dragon... and it just didn't feel strong

[quiet frost]

yeah that honestly should have been dragon....

[white jungle]

Flygon isn't strong as-is

A bug dragon with the right available moves would be great

[quiet frost]

i think it is better defensively. (also in that rom i think it had psudo legend stats... it was renegade platinum i think)

[limpid depot]

It's a theory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmsNmMuajEU

[patent rivet]

Smeargle is a painter after all

[viscid adder]

dude there's a butt ton of bugs that can be turned into dragons

and who is it to say that it can be an actual bug?

maybe it can be a dragon that's the size of a bug!

[quiet frost]

a joltik size dragon would be really funny

[viscid adder]

applin is the closest we've ever gotten to a bug-like dragon pokemon

look at the lad!

LOOK AT HIM!

so yeah. bug/dragon or dragon/bug pokemon.
we need those.

[little whale]

He

[meager oasis]

Oh my god

Applin without apple

It’s so cute

[meager oasis]

What about vibrava and flygon

[viscid adder]

HNG DAMN I FORGOR THE ANTLION

WHY DID I DO THAT

[meager oasis]

wheeze

[viscid adder]

man... we really need more bug-shaped dragons or dragon-shaped bugs.

these lads can't do all the heavy lifting here

[gloomy inlet]

applin withot apple it's just in

[undone flower]

Naked applin

[hollow lantern]

Anyone knows if we have 'official' leaks on the starter's evolution?

[forest egret]

Yeah we do have their typings leaked, and tiny sections of Quaxly and Sprigatito's final evos

I'll try and find them

||so yeah, according to leaks, Quaxly is water/fighting, Sprigatito is grass/dark, and Fuecoco is fire/ghost||

[inner kernel]

||I think that last one was later corrected to be sprigs middle Evo not final||

[forest egret]

||I see, if that is the middle evo then that's fine too||

[clear lotus]

baller

[lilac needle]

||alright that's a decent type trio for them. an inverse type triangle of sorts||

[little whale]

I personally like the idea of ||having the primary typings be strong against each other and the secondary weak against each other, it feels more balanced that way||

[lilac needle]

||yeah me too. to me, it was kinda weird how in SM, we had an almost secondary type triangle but Decidueye fucked it over, being ghost type and all||

[viscid adder]

Agreed!

[white jungle]

Steel tera type could be good for guts Ursaluna considering it probably has heavy slam or iron head

[white jungle]

It would also allow Pokémon like Flareon to not be forced to use toxorb

[late tendon]

Tera fire Torkoal with Eruption will ohko every living thing

Ice types will benefit from tera a lot since they'll loose ice typing but not ice stab

Turn it into steel and still have one of the best offensive stabs

[fickle birch]

Good, I want my beloved Torkoal to be useful. 😄

[late tendon]

Torkoal was neat in no legendaries VGC format

oftenly paired with Venusaur and Charizard

[fickle birch]

I'm excited for the prospect of psychological games with Tera types. I've said this before, but imagine thinking someone is going to turn their Electric-type into a Flying-type to avoid Ground-type moves, but they actually turn it into something like a Water-type in anticipation of an Ice-type move because the Flying-type was predictably countered. 😃

[forest egret]

It's hard to say yet but I do really like the sound of terastal as a whole, seems like it'll be fun

[fickle birch]

If it ends up being as versatile as it could be, I'm excited. If it becomes Steel-type spam, I'll be a bit sad. 😦

Although I think it might be a lot of Steel-type spam at first, but evolve as counters and predictions become more of a thing. 🙂

Because if everyone is going Steel, then Fighting, Fire and Ground have more value, so then their counters will, and so on. 😄

[forest egret]

Ye exactly. If steel types were that strong then every team would be just 6 steel pokemon already

[white jungle]

Genuinely think ice types may become op this gen, there are so many ones with amazing bulk stat arrays which are bad BECAUSE they're ice types

And that's not even mentioning bulkier ones which aren't necessarily awful at the moment, just not great, like Articuno

I could definitely see attack tera sets being more popular than tank tera sets

[fickle birch]

Ice is a really good offensive type, being able to remove its horrible defensive stuff is going to be a godsend. 🙂

[white jungle]

But the latter will mostly rely on picking off the opponent's attacker

Basically the way I see it is bulky teras will be great, but countered by offensive teras which can just burst anything no matter what (Crawdaunt will probably become really popular tbh)

[fickle birch]

Fairy's quite an OP type, but if Steel is a popular Tera Type then Tera Fairy won't be too common. 😮

[white jungle]

Maybe I'm wrong with that but anything with adaptability will be terrifying

[forest egret]

Adaptability's gonna be great in this gen

[white jungle]

Exactly

Which I believe Basculegion gets actually

[forest egret]

Porygon-Z wit da 135 special atk 3x damage Tri-Attack

[white jungle]

The only downside with teradaptability will be dual types losing one of their adaptability types, which Basculegion won't suffer from so much because ghost is already not a great offensive typing in

At least not with the move pool it had in PLA

It had like shadow ball, which is only good with one of its forms

That said, maybe I'm underestimating adaptability ghost

Ghost isn't resisted by a lot of popular types

So it may end up being a sort of piercing mechanic, with teradaptability making up for the lack of super effective

Hell, phantom force would give the male one a physical ghost move to utilise and would further add to that piercing idea by breaking protection

[smoky bison]

I wonder how that's gonna work

Maybe terastalize is its separate multiplier so it could potentially be even more than 3x

[forest egret]

That'd be horrifying

[fickle birch]

I expect it might even get patched if it's too OP. 😮

[smoky bison]

They've done mid-gen nerfs/buffs in gen 8 already so there is potential for it

[fickle birch]

They did? 😮

[urban owl]

Yeah

There were also some in gen 6 and 7

I forget to which mons, but they were there

[vestal aurora]

i'm just excited that in 2 weeks i'll be playing the game

[viscid adder]

TWO WEEKS!!!

[white jungle]

Hope not honestly, just adapt (pun not intended surprisingly)

It's not like the adaptability Mons we have would automatically be unbeatable. They'd be super strong and I'm looking forward to seeing Crawdaunt (one of the best Pokémon) rise in usefulness

But still beatable, either through super good bulk (though you'd probably have to get something that resists their chosen type) or through choice scarf/priority attack shenanigans

Not to mention, adaptability teras will be great, but as I said before they actually will weaken one of their types unlike other tera Mons

Say you have a Crawdaunt dark tera type

You terastalise, you don't lose water stab, but we don't necessarily have any reason to keep adaptability buff for water when it's no longer water type. Frankly that could be a great way to nerf it.

[fickle birch]

Please tell me that the image is spoilered. 😅

[alpine sandal]

no

[fickle birch]

Oh no. 😂

[alpine sandal]

well now it does'nt exist, its spoilered

[fickle birch]

New Pokémon leaked through GO of all things, it had previously been seen in a trailer. A rare twice-leaked Pokémon. 😮

||Khu called this one the coin.|| 🙂

[limpid depot]

||Interesting
But very odd||

[patent rivet]

Weird looking

Maybe a better quality image and better angle will make it look good

[alpine sandal]

||regional pawnaird looking man||

[lament glen]

||this is the first mon that looks staight up trash to me||

[inner kernel]

I hate that thing

[fickle birch]

I'm also not a fan of it. ||Looks too much like a cross between Clank and a Reddit Snoo for me.|| 😅

But hey, one stinker out of the whole batch so far isn't bad. 🙂

[lament glen]

Yeah, every gen has a few of those. Still looking forward to checking out the entire dex

[quiet frost]

Dang I hope that guy looks better in game

[viscid adder]

Huh
He looks kind of interesting

What type is the 'mon?
And can it evolve?

[fickle birch]

||Mono-Ghost, and yes, but apparently you need to collect coins to evolve it, like Spiritomb's souls in Legends.|| 😢

[viscid adder]

||Hmmm interesting...
Maybe it'll become a bigger greedy monster when it evolves?||

[forest egret]

||Here's the same dude in video form||

[viscid adder]

||Also he kind reminds me of a sock puppet||
||Really curious about what this lad is based on..||

[viscid adder]

||Oh wow!! He's a really small guy! Didn't notice the antenna!||

||Ok this little guy is growing on me.||

[forest egret]

||I also kinda like him||

[fickle birch]

||In addition to Clank and a Snoo, it reminds me of a gingerbread man.|| 😂

[viscid adder]

||I'm trying to research the guy. My guess is that they're some sort of imp or gremlin-like creature that evolves into a massive, greedy beast spirit. Kind of like no-face... only smaller.||

[fickle birch]

||It reminds me a lot of Sableye in terms of the typing and premise.|| 😮

[viscid adder]

||Oh wait! Maybe they'll evolve into a chest mimic or a golden statue that wants to have more on its body. Or a Sableye.||
||Honestly I'm ready for whatever happens.||

[forest egret]

||Apparently it's like Zygarde or Meltan where you collect a bunch of them to form a larger mon||

[viscid adder]

||Dude same! Everywhere I go I see nothing but gremlin.
...maybe it's a convergant evolution?||

[fickle birch]

||It's almost definitely not, leakers would have said if it was a Sableye thing. But that's why I don't really like how convergent evolution is currently being handled.|| 😅

[viscid adder]

||Oh man... a walking pile of treasure...||

[viscid adder]

||I really don't want wigglet to be lonely, honestly.||

[quiet frost]

Kinda reminds me more of meowth tbh

[rich coral]

||So, new Pokémon, my reaction:||

||...it is absolutely featureless.||

[viscid adder]

||Maybe it will gain more features... when it has more!||