pokemon-winds-waves

[vestal aurora]

almost 2 months away

[fickle birch]

I don't like this. It feels like Legends just came out.

[vestal aurora]

right?!

i still haven't finished the dex in legends

[lament glen]

2 unpolished open world games from the same series in 1 year is too much, who would have known 🤯

[vestal aurora]

tbh for open world they're not that open

[fickle birch]

Legends is more like Monster Hunter, or what I imagine Sonic Frontiers is going to be; set zones you can explore freely. It's not fully open world. 😅

SV isn't really all that open either because they've said the levels don't scale, meaning that there is a recommended path of progress. 😦

Level scaling based on badges or other key events is something I could have coded myself.

[forest egret]

Yeah I don't remember PLA being marketed as open-world, I think the fanbase sorta assumed that

[vestal aurora]

there'll probably have mods that do that

[forest egret]

SV is being marketed as open though (and yet it probably won't be) so yeah

[vestal aurora]

i think LA is more of open maps than open world

[fickle birch]

If it's coded in Unity like BDSP, it could honestly happen in less than a week. 😂

[fickle birch]

I mean the whole three different stories is more open than anything we've had before, the game's just not built to cater for level differences, which is annoying. 😦

[forest egret]

Ye

[fickle birch]

Hopefully you don't do a whole route, start another one and it's back to Lvl 5 teams. That'd be... bad. 😂

I'd probably get a new team for each run in that case, making it 3 sub-games rather than a big one. 🙂

[vestal aurora]

3 sub games can also be good

but one big one would be ideal

[smoky bison]

Isn't it programmed in the same engine as PL:A?

[fickle birch]

That with like a Lvl 80ish end to the final story would be fantastic, yeah. The 3 sub-games would just be a workaround, the same way I used a rotation of 12 Pokémon for SwSh. 😅

[fickle birch]

I feel like it's just the SwSh engine again but borrowing some things from Legends. 😦

Because a lot is also gone. 😢

[smoky bison]

That would be ideal but I bet it's gonna be some sub level 60 stuff again like every gen

[fickle birch]

Oh it will be, because like I said they're not scaling levels.

[vestal aurora]

yeah

it isn't necessarily bad

but something different every once in a while is good

[rich coral]

While Can You Feel My Heart plays?

[rich coral]

It did.
Seriously the game deserved more time.

Also yeah Legends was specifically stated to not be open-world.

[fickle birch]

The release schedule's been really weird; SV will be the third mainline Pokémon games to come out in 12 months. It might contribute to franchise fatigue. 😦

[rich coral]

It does seem critique is more wide spread this time, not just vocal, but also collected.

[smoky bison]

I'd be fine with getting a game every 5 years if it meant they are good

[forest egret]

A game every 20 years for extra goodness

[smoky bison]

Imagine how good the game would be if we waited a millenium tho?

[forest egret]

There's only so good a game can get on our current techonology before it gets surpassed probably, lol

Imagine someone releases a game today that they've been working on for like 40 years and it's for commodore 64

So, trailer's in like 40-or-so minutes isn't it

[vestal aurora]

yes

[forest egret]

This will be fun. Better than watching championships for like 3 hours

[vestal aurora]

lmao true

[forest egret]

I'm surprised how quickly the Grafaiai one came out, they didn't tease it too much he just sorta got shown outright

[vestal aurora]

yeah

but i think that zorua was kinda the same no?

hisuian one

[forest egret]

That's true, they did have the video first where they didn't show it at all but then like 2 or 3 days later they just did it anyway lol

[fickle birch]

||I did a redesign of a Pokémon that's been known about for a while to make it less of a really bad recolour. Apparently it might be getting shown off today. 😅||

[forest egret]

That's awesome

[vestal aurora]

yeah really cool

[rich coral]

Do we have a link to any lifestream or will it be a directly uploaded video?

[rich coral]

Dwarf Fortress is a fantastic game though.

[forest egret]

Lol, touché

[rich coral]

But yeah this is more the exception to the rule.
In the end, games should take as long as they need.
If something comes up that needs to be adressed, the game will need more time.

[vestal aurora]

7 mins

Anxiety intensifies

[fickle birch]

I can't seem to find it, so I assume directly uploaded? 🙂

[vestal aurora]

60s

[rich coral]

Heard this suggested elsewhere too, so likely the case.

[fickle birch]

Pokémon Presents normally have the stream, this is more like an SM-style reveal, and they were directly uploaded I think. 😄

[vestal aurora]

yeah the trailer seems to be posted directly

no stream this time

[fickle birch]

Not up yet on my end. 🥲

[vestal aurora]

same

[fickle birch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NreJ_VEcuYE

[vestal aurora]

crab

[fickle birch]

Geeta's eyes are like scarily big.

[forest egret]

I'm not feeling it mr crabs

[vestal aurora]

HOLY SHIT SO MUCH AWESOME DESIGNSSSS

[forest egret]

The knights are awesome

[vestal aurora]

the knights are sick

and the team star leader

wow

[fickle birch]

No ||Paradox forms|| or starter evolutions, though? 😮

[vestal aurora]

one of the knights is fire/ghost and the other fire/psychic

[fickle birch]

The knights are Armarouge and Ceruledge. 🙂

[vestal aurora]

and the names fit so well

[forest egret]

I like them a lot

[fickle birch]

They remind me a lot of Gallade. Like, a lot. 😂

[forest egret]

I don't like the crab that much

[vestal aurora]

i'm assuming armarouge is scarlet and ceruledge is violet

cause

[fickle birch]

I mean, yeah. 😛

[vestal aurora]

kinda obvious colour scheme

i love armarouge ngl

[fickle birch]

It looks like a Mario character. 😛

[forest egret]

He looks like a generic cartoon crab lol

[vestal aurora]

klawf's name is really cool tho

[forest egret]

Klaud

[vestal aurora]

jean clawd

all over again

[wanton idol]

guess who

who

[fickle birch]

Wait, Klawf's not a Steel-type? 😮

[wanton idol]

is reserving this one

[vestal aurora]

also the artwork for klawf is way better than the model

the knight's tho look really cool in the artwork and model

Mela my beloved

The tattoos

[forest egret]

Crab's a little better in the artwork but idk, I like the other crabs better I think still

[vestal aurora]

yeah

[forest egret]

The knights are awesome though, like god damn

[vestal aurora]

i think it'll be a cool story mon

[fickle birch]

Did Gen V introduce a crab Pokémon? 😮

[vestal aurora]

but not one i'd use

[fickle birch]

IT DID! 😄

[rich coral]

The grunts don't even get unifroms this time.

[fickle birch]

A trend continues. 🙂

[fickle birch]

I mean they do, they're just school uniforms for some reason. 😂

[vestal aurora]

they're school bullies, but that doesn't mean that they don't have to use the uniforms

[rich coral]

They barely change appearance.

[vestal aurora]

also did you guys seee the engine's eye?

[forest egret]

Ye, that engine was hinted at being a pokemon a while ago

[vestal aurora]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FcDheuDWAAElt6Q?format=jpg&name=large

look at this shot

[fickle birch]

Interestingly, how they wear their uniforms kind of resembles how Arven wears his.

[vestal aurora]

also new switch oled looking nice

[fickle birch]

Um... Free Shell Smash.

[vestal aurora]

||this is really good for speculation ngl since you can take a good look at the engine||

someone is gonna be used in vgc

this duo seems dangerous

first look at abilities popping up right?

ui looks neat

interesting at least

[forest egret]

That's pretty cool

[wanton idol]

wip

[thin wolf]

fire type leech life is pretty cool, could see the swords of justice and aegislash get this move aswell

[vestal aurora]

I mean

Should stay only on this mon imo

At least for this gen

[rich coral]

Probably not the Swords of Justice, but Aegislash I can see.

[thin wolf]

agreed

[thin wolf]

||wasn't verizion leaked as a paradox form maybe it'll turn ghost and get it?, just speculating ofc||

[rich coral]

I was thinking about that as well, actually.

Right now though, I wonder if you can beat the game without the auto-battling.

[thin wolf]

the grass leader uses a sudowoodo I wonder if all gyms will have a pkm from a diffrent type terastillize

[vestal aurora]

||according to leaks some/all do||

[thin wolf]

||would've hoped the gyms would tera into an other typestill cool tho ||

[strong trail]

the fan artists are gonna go wild for ||Mela||, I have a feeling

[rich coral]

https://imgflip.com/i/6sj8nv

Like... why cut class on a school you have chosen to be a part in, that is entirely voluntary?

[thin wolf]

because school is for nerds 😎

[vestal aurora]

Mela is my favourite so far

[rich coral]

Then don't enroll lol.

[thin wolf]

The nerd detector going off

but no you make a fair point

[forest egret]

That meme is the wrong template I think

The brother in christ thing is the subway sandwich or something

[rich coral]

Just googled for a "my brother in christ" template.

[forest egret]

Two memes collide

[rich coral]

Lol.

This is memetic mutation.

[thin wolf]

as someone with a phd in meme-olygy this is actually the older format that was reborn into the subway format|| 🤓||

[rich coral]

Ancient memetic mutation.

[forest egret]

I'm wondering, do these kids choose to attend these schools or is it like, a mandatory thing

[rich coral]

This school specifically is stated to be voluntary, and takes both kids and adults.

[thin wolf]

maybe the parents force them? Or more peer pressure?

[rich coral]

If nothing else, it is clearly supposed to be a university instead of a regular school.

[forest egret]

That's a weird school. I'm also confused why the rebels still wear their uniforms if they're so rebellious

[rich coral]

Cheaper assets.

No seriously I know no other reason.

[forest egret]

Their leader's got like the bombastic clothing going on

Is it because they don't wanna make them look like team yell or something

It's also making me realize that this is like, the 3rd punk team we've gotten in a row right

Unless you count Team Aether and Macro Cosmos ig/

[rich coral]

Was about to say Yell ws not punk, but no one of their signature Pokémon is literally a punk rocker.

[fickle birch]

This move definitely seems better. 😄

[rich coral]

And no we don't count the shyamalam twist.

[fickle birch]

Looks like sprited icons really are dead in the water. 😢

[forest egret]

Is it a little 2d drawing?

Did swsh have those too or were they models

[fickle birch]

It looked to me like the BDSP sort of ones. 😅

[fickle birch]

SwSh's were sprites. 😛

[forest egret]

Ah right

[vestal aurora]

I think that the icon's are like the swsh ones

[forest egret]

I don't mind them being little drawings I suppose

[fickle birch]

Like I said, SwSh used sprites. 😅

[strong trail]

I do like that ceruledge and that other one are basically X and Zero from Megaman X

[forest egret]

They do look like Megaman robots

Idk which one I like more, they're both pretty cool

[fickle birch]

Items may be getting redesigned, the Antidote (and presumably the recoloured variants) has new art. 😮

[forest egret]

That's pretty cool

[vestal aurora]

Look nice

[forest egret]

The potion and the revive were shown in the preorder bonuses too

What kinda preorder bonus is this anyway

[smoky bison]

man what a cool design, I am not aroused whatsoever.

The character designs have been on point this gen so far

[smoky bison]

Literally just to say that there is a preorder bonus

[fickle birch]

She attends school, so she's a child.

The only character designs I've not liked so far are Grusha because of the weird androgynous thing (which I'm fine with now), and Geeta, because her eyes are as big as her head. 😮

[smoky bison]

Geetas' eyes look terrifying int he promo art of her

But the 3D model doesn't give off that vibe. They seem much more proportional

[fickle birch]

Like that's just a bad design. 😦

[wanton idol]

LOL i got pokemon violet as a preorder for my bday

[forest egret]

Her eyes are sorta like the blue dude from PLA

[wanton idol]

cant wait to get that

[fickle birch]

It was the model that made me think they were too big. 😂

[wanton idol]

so worth it

[forest egret]

They you my friend get to be the proud owner of 10 potions

[smoky bison]

this seems normal-sized (even if very big)

[fickle birch]

No, that really scares me. 😅

[forest egret]

It seems that these acadamies cover a wide age group

It seems to be like a university but there's also children there too

That doesn't neccesarily defeat the point that Mela's probably a teen though

[fickle birch]

Like this guy from the anime. 😂

[forest egret]

Lol, yeah

[gloomy inlet]

that 2 pokémon at the end of the trailer reminds me of this
https://www.deviantart.com/k-thrillz63/art/LRC-MWS-Arkellian-Gallade-and-Arkellian-Gardevoir-912719852

[icy forge]

Maybe is just my imagination but…Don’t leakers said Komala not appear in Paldea?

[forest egret]

Hmm, I don't remember

Seems Centro said it would be in the game

[icy forge]

Maybe I misunderstood

[smoky bison]

This is REALLY funny to me

[gloomy inlet]

"don't appear" doesn't mean it is not available

[rich coral]

We were told both kids and adults attend, actually.

[forest egret]

Yeah I figured, I'm trying to find where that's stated because the main trailer didn't say it but it does seem to show it

[forest egret]

Generally if a leaker said something like that it would imply it's not in. They would be more specific if it was like a transferable-only (Unless you're khu ig)

[fickle birch]

Also, here's an updated list of available Pokémon according to Serebii, the ones at the very bottom of each post are speculative due to being counterparts of confirmed Pokémon or in-game references: 🙂

• Pichu, Pikachu and Raichu

• Igglybuff, Jigglypuff and Wigglytuff

• Venonat and Venomoth

• Meowth and Persian

• Psyduck and Golduck

• Growlithe and Arcanine

• Slowpoke, Slowbro and Slowking

• Magnemite, Magneton and Magnezone

• Grimer and Muk

• Shellder and Cloyster

• Gastly, Haunter and Gengar

• Drowzee and Hypno

• Happiny, Chansey and Blissey

• Scyther and Scizor (Kleavor?)

• Magikarp and Gyarados

• Eevee, Vaporeon, Jolteon, Flareon, Espeon, Umbreon, Leafeon, Glaceon and Sylveon

• Dratini, Dragonair and Dragonite

• Mareep, Flaaffy and Ampharos

• Azurill, Marill and Azumarill

• Bonsly and Sudowoodo

• Hoppip, Skiploom and Jumpluff

• Sunkern and Sunflora

• Murkrow and Honchkrow

• Misdreavus and Mismagius

• Girafarig

• Pineco and Forretress

• Dunsparce

• Sneasel and Weavile (Sneasler?)

• Teddiursa and Ursaring (Ursaluna?)

• Houndour and Houndoom

• Phanpy and Donphan

• Larvitar, Pupitar and Tyranitar

• Wingull and Pelipper

• Ralts, Kirlia, Gardevoir and Gallade

• Shroomish and Breloom

• Slakoth, Vigoroth and Slaking

• Makuhita and Hariyama

• Sableye

• Meditite and Medicham

• Numel and Camperupt

• Torkoal

• Cacnea and Cacturne

• Swablu and Altaria

• Zangoose

• Seviper

• Tropius

• Snorunt, Glalie and Froslass

• Bagon, Shelgon and Salamence

• Mawile

• Starly, Staravia and Staraptor

• Shinx, Luxio and Luxray

• Combee and Vespiquen

• Pachirisu

• Drifloon and Drifblim

• Bronzor and Bronzong

• Riolu and Lucario

• Hippopotas and Hippowdon

• Croagunk and Toxicroak

• Finneon and Lumineon

• Snover and Abomasnow

• Rotom (maybe just as an appliance, though)

• Petilil and Lilligant

• Sandile, Krokorok and Krookodile

• Zorua and Zoroark (Hisuian)

• Deerling and Sawsbuck

• Tynamo, Eelektrik and Eelektross

• Cubchoo and Beartic

• Cryogonal

• Deino, Zweilous and Hydreigon

• Fletchling, Fletchinder and Talonflame

• Scatterbug, Spewpa and Vivillon

• Litleo and Pyroar

• Flabébé, Floette and Florges

• Skiddo and Gogoat

• Clauncher and Clawitzer

• Goomy, Sliggoo and Goodra

• Noibat and Noivern

• Oricorio

• Rockruff and Lycanroc

• Mareanie and Toxapex

• Mudbray and Mudsdale

• Fomantis and Lurantis

• Bounsweet, Steenee and Tsareena

• Komala

• Mimikyu

• Skwovet and Greedent

• Rookidee, Corvisquire and Corviknight

• Chewtle and Drednaw

• Rolycoly, Carkol and Coalossal

• Applin, Flapple and Appletun ❤️

• Sinistea and Polteageist

• Hatenna, Hattrem and Hatterene

• Pincurchin

• Snom and Frosmoth

• Stonjourner

• Cufant and Copperajah

• Dreepy, Drakloak and Dragapult

• Skrelp and Dragalge

• Impidimp, Morgrem and Grimmsnarl

• Eiscue

PLACEHOLDER

[wanton idol]

amigoed

[thin wolf]

I really really really hope that all mons are in the game. Pretty sure they use the same models as before wich means that ""only"" animations and textures need to be changed. I just dislike that the GF made the chose to remove certain pokemon

[pastel lark]

just watched the trailer and took a look at the site, the icon doesnt look like to be a drawing

[forest egret]

The classic, iconic blaquaza pin

[fickle birch]

It's probably a shrunken down model, like the BDSP ones. 🙂

[pastel lark]

shhh

let me believe the funny pixel arts are back

[fickle birch]

I want them back as much as you do. 😢

[forest egret]

Is this the first grass gym leader we've gotten that isn't just a green hippie

[vestal aurora]

I love his design

[forest egret]

I do too, I think he's my favourite of the humans so far

[vestal aurora]

The whip 😩

Brassius is my favourite male and Mela is my favourite female designs so far

[pastel lark]

||the truck thing being a pokemon is so weird||

[fickle birch]

Yeah, it's a pretty unique human design, I like it. 🙂

[forest egret]

Why is that weird

[fickle birch]

A lot is being revealed about your character here.

[smoky bison]

https://tenor.com/view/design-very-human-le-prisme-des-créateurs-creaprisme-prisme-toilet-gif-24957238

[vestal aurora]

||It's not the truck is the engine ||

[icy forge]

Is an Artist 😅

[gloomy inlet]

boober is a thing

[vestal aurora]

Lmao, they just look cool

[smoky bison]

wait is smoliv evo revealed? No way

[icy forge]

Its true. CentroLeaks said Komala will appear in Scarlet Violet

[pastel lark]

i love her design, but why are her boots so big

[fickle birch]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-what-emote-gif-23702501

[fickle birch]

Malva's daughter.

[vestal aurora]

The selling point for me is the spikes in the hair of brassius and the tatoos on mela

[forest egret]

Because goths wear big boots so it's an exaggeration of that aspect

[gloomy inlet]

resembles that new ||amarouge(?)||, ig?

[forest egret]

Lol, you don't need to put revealled mons in spoilers, it's ok

[pastel lark]

👀 the eyes of this one, makes me think he is blind

[vestal aurora]

Nah he just cool

[gloomy inlet]

||short ||||of ||||habits|| 🗿

[forest egret]

He does have weird pale eyes yeah but I think it's to show he's got a cold demeanor

[vestal aurora]

Ngl i loved this trailer

Can't wait for more stuff tho

[forest egret]

Indeed. They'll probably show stuff a little more frequently now that we're heading to release

[smoky bison]

So far, this game looks the best from any in the franchise which I am pretty excited about

[vestal aurora]

How much did they reveal before swsh

[smoky bison]

But I also know that trailers are there to confuse people and get our hopes up

[pastel lark]

My reaction to the new pokemons on this trailer:
Armarougue: megaman, a bit too humanoid for me
Ceruledge: Very cool also too humanoid for me
Klawf: its just a crab...

[smoky bison]

I dont mind crab guy

[forest egret]

I do, he's the only one I don't like so far

[late tendon]

did u guys see the reveal of automatic battles?

[vestal aurora]

What?

[smoky bison]

What do you not like about him?

[late tendon]

u can throw your pokemen at wild pokemen and they'll battle automatically

you can either watch or walk away while they fight

[vestal aurora]

Coolio

[forest egret]

He looks like a generic cartoon crab. We've already got a generic cartoon crab, and like 5 other crabs who aren't generic cartoon crabs

[late tendon]

very high quality screenshots of the trailer

[fickle birch]

Agreed, but I think the knights are cool. 🙂

[late tendon]

with autobattles

now u don't have to battle a thousand of rattatas by your own

cool

[pastel lark]

my current tier list

[pastel lark]

hmm nice

[fickle birch]

You can't say this and not give a link. 😛

[forest egret]

Grafaifai in bottom tier

[smoky bison]

weed kitty is S but ghost pepper crocodile is C? Big disappoint

[pastel lark]

https://tiermaker.com/create/scarlet-violet-pokmon-03-08-22-116086

weed cat is funny

i never liked fuecoco

[fickle birch]

This is mine. 🙂

[vestal aurora]

mine

[forest egret]

This'd be mine

[icy forge]

Klawf in my opinion os cute, seems like the robots Sonic jump to free animals. Badnik?

[vestal aurora]

nooooo

[late tendon]

here's mine

[vestal aurora]

pooper is meh

[forest egret]

Me when I paint wooper brown and call it new

[fickle birch]

It does give off robot vibes, it annoys me that it's not a Steel-type. 😦

[pastel lark]

time for the most useless detail ever

[fickle birch]

It's got little bones on its face! It's fun. 😛

[smoky bison]

That's why I like it lmao

[pastel lark]

trainers don't only use pokeballs

[smoky bison]

"you want your stupid regional? Here you go"

[vestal aurora]

mela is awesome

those aren't tattoos tho

[forest egret]

I'm just hoping that the Quagsire isn't just brown quagsire, if it changes things then I'll retroactively appreciate pooper more

[vestal aurora]

i honestly think that it won't be quagsire

i think it'll be a new mon

[forest egret]

That's also possible

[vestal aurora]

imagine pooper doesn't evolve lmao

[icy forge]

Mine

[fickle birch]

Yeah, that's a stupid idea, right?

[vestal aurora]

is it supposed to be a pumpkin?

[forest egret]

Funny little scarecrow

[fickle birch]

It's supposed to be a spooky killer that lurks in swamps and drags people into the swampy quicksand. 😂

[vestal aurora]

the usual ok

also team star's outfits are so funny

they give off team skull vibes but if they did go to school

[forest egret]

I find it odd that they still dress up in school uniforms despite setting up their weird Skyrim Bandit strongholds

Mans lives like a Borderlands enemy and dresses like that

[vestal aurora]

also the reveal of team star makes me think that penny is totally a part of it

[fickle birch]

They're just the normal school uniforms with a star motif. 😅

[vestal aurora]

yeah it's funny

if we keep having designs as awesome as these ones this might be one of the best designed gens imo

[gloomy inlet]

it's like rebelious school gang that draw some shit (star logo) on their uniform

[fickle birch]

The exclusivity is as we expected, they didn't subvert it. 😅

[forest egret]

If they were actual rebels they'd dress like Mela, lol

[vestal aurora]

true

[gloomy inlet]

I'm glad it and other pokémon are new pokémon rather than regional Kirlia evos

[vestal aurora]

speculating a bit, but i think that the battles against team star leaders might be like gym battles as well

like several types and stuff

[forest egret]

Ye Mela's specifically the leader of the fire group

[vestal aurora]

hence why mela's design is so different of the other grunts

[forest egret]

So they're definitely gonna have admins who are different types yeah

[vestal aurora]

honestly from what i've seen so far don't know which path i'm gonna go with first

[fickle birch]

I knew Armarogue reminded me of someone. 😅

[vestal aurora]

maybe evil team

also from the revealed pokemon so far what we'll be your team

[fickle birch]

Quaxly, Fidough and Lechonk are probably all gonna be on there. 😄

[forest egret]

Starter's definitely gonna be SWITCH NOT FOUND

[vestal aurora]

my 6 of all the revealed so far

some repeated types

[forest egret]

3 normals and 2 fires, very nice

[vestal aurora]

but designs over usability

[forest egret]

I think I'm slowly leaning towards Armarouge being the one I like more of the 2

[vestal aurora]

i like him a lot

the arm cannons are really cool

[late tendon]

These new Gallades aren't bad by any means but too humanoid and overdesigned for my personal tastes

[forest egret]

I think they're both pretty neat, and also better than Gallade

[late tendon]

I like Gallade much more I think

[forest egret]

Fair enough

[vestal aurora]

i find them a bit too humanoid too, but i also find that it makes sense for their design

[late tendon]

Ye it's not like there can't be humanoid Pokemon, they're just not the ones I'm leaning towards to

I like animals

[vestal aurora]

same

[late tendon]

Humans aren't animals they're secretly aliens

[fickle birch]

They definitely do veer into "not a Pokémon" territory; not in the Digimon way, more like how Dottler looks like a Mario enemy instead of a Pokémon. 😅

[forest egret]

It seems like a consistent thing that Pawmi ends up low on people's lists lol

[wanton idol]

its kinda meh lol

[forest egret]

Yeah

[wanton idol]

also i didnt like spriting it

[forest egret]

It's a pikaclone

[wanton idol]

so

ratio

[late tendon]

It's not bad, it's uh... basic?

[vestal aurora]

yeah

[fickle birch]

It's a bad design that looks unfinished, ||something the leaked middle evolution certainly doesn't fix||. 😅

[vestal aurora]

feel the same

[forest egret]

Yeah I don't think it's bad it's just... a Pikaclone lol

What more can be said

[late tendon]

It looks like it evolves but idk pikaclones didn't evolve since Pikachu

Maybe it will

[forest egret]

Perhaps

[late tendon]

It's not a leak btw, just my speculation

Idk what leaks say about it

[fickle birch]

Nemona having one made me suspect that it would. 😅

If she's around early on, I'd imagine her ace gets to evolve, maybe even twice. 😄

[rich coral]

Yeah been a thing since Alola.

[forest egret]

I guess Marnie's didn't evolve

[late tendon]

We'll see, I'd be happy to see it's evo

[forest egret]

She did replace her ace with a Grimmsnarl or something though lol

[fickle birch]

That's classic SwSh bad planning. 😂

[late tendon]

Is it bad to switch aces tho?

[fickle birch]

Whereas Pawmi's presented somewhat like a rival's starter, like Blue's in Yellow. 🙂

[late tendon]

Morpeko isn't an ace, it's a mascot

[vestal aurora]

grimmsnarl is awesome tho so i see why she would replace her old one

[forest egret]

That's true

[forest egret]

It pretty much is her ace until she gets Grimmsnarl lol

[late tendon]

It was more of a joke

No worries

[forest egret]

Grimbo too betterer

[late tendon]

What do you guys plan to do first, gyms or titans stuff or dex?

[vestal aurora]

totally unrelated but grafaiai/impidimp could be really cool design wise

he would have lots of drip

[forest egret]

Goblin drip

[vestal aurora]

maybe evil team stuff and gyms, but also kinda interested on the titans thing

[late tendon]

I think I'll start with pokedex that's available at the current point of the game

I think they didn't reveal the third route of gameplay yet?

Only gyms and titans

[fickle birch]

Treasure, with Arven. 😛

[vestal aurora]

that's the titan stuff

[late tendon]

It's titans

Ye

[vestal aurora]

i feel like the 3 paths are gyms, evil team and treasure hunt

[forest egret]

I hate it when you go to find treasure and then Giant Enemy Crab™️ ruins your day

[late tendon]

Evil team may be connected to gyms but who knows

[vestal aurora]

he does a cool flip tho

[late tendon]

It's eyes are wild

[vestal aurora]

i think that these are the 3 paths honestly

[forest egret]

That's scary, imagine a giant grab doing gymnastics at you

[late tendon]

Ye perhaps

They said that Team Star has several bases with several bosses so this new girl is just one of them

I'm really curious to see more

[forest egret]

Ye she's the fire leader

[fickle birch]

They are, there's no perhaps about it. 😛

[forest egret]

Which implies they'll all be type themed

[late tendon]

So Team Star itself isn't fire type?

[forest egret]

It would seem so, their typing probably depends on who they hang with

[late tendon]

That's good to know

[vestal aurora]

i'm pretty sure klawf is based on the green-crab since they also grow stuff similar to this things he has on it's paws, and it's also a pretty common species here on the peninsula

[fickle birch]

I imagine it'll have a few types the same way most evil teams do, then the bosses will specialise in one of those types. 😄

[late tendon]

[fickle birch]

Based on the name Star, I'd assume Fire, Electric and Psychic, maybe with the typical Dark thrown in. 🙂

[vestal aurora]

and fairy

imo

cause stars are somewhat mystical

[fickle birch]

Yeah, you're right. 😄

[late tendon]

And normal because of Swift

[viscid adder]

reminds me of parasites

[late tendon]

And all other types

[vestal aurora]

i just want to see some evos

[late tendon]

Damn I'd love to see fairy evil team someday

[vestal aurora]

pls let the next reveal be some evos

[viscid adder]

that... doesn't make a lick of sense

[viscid adder]

glad that eiscue's getting more love

[viscid adder]

OH DAMN THEIR ICONS ARE DRAWN NOW??
Duuuude

[fickle birch]

I'm not, not at all.

[late tendon]

I think the serebii page with all the revealed mons should be updated soon, if not already

[fickle birch]

No, it's a BDSP-style model. 😛

[fickle birch]

It's already been done, I think. Torkoal was added when I went through earlier. 🙂

[vestal aurora]

It's a shrunken model that they turned 2d

[late tendon]

Good

[viscid adder]

Why not her boots so big?
Let her wear what she wants to wear!

[vestal aurora]

i'm glad torkoal is getiing some love tho

he's a really cool dude

[viscid adder]

out of all the cartoon crabs, he looks kinda more robotic to me

[viscid adder]

yeah that feature is sick as all hell

[forest egret]

I'm gonna grab his eyeball and do a One Punch Man reference

[late tendon]

Also, I really like the grass gym leader design, gives me these deep pafos artists vibes

[fickle birch]

It really annoys me that it's not a Steel-type. 😅

[viscid adder]

OH SNAP THERE'S GROUP FACTIONS
DUUUDE

[late tendon]

He'd make either good friends or enemies with Burgh lol

[vestal aurora]

true

he gives those vibes

[forest egret]

I think the site calls him a Virtuoso or something so I guess he is an artist

[viscid adder]

Still, not a bad thing to take

[late tendon]

He made the Sunflora sculpture at least

[vestal aurora]

Verdant Virtuoso

[viscid adder]

mmmm love the ring to that

[late tendon]

Sad long sunflora sculpture that artists argue about

It was mentioned somewhere on the website

[fickle birch]

Sprites are dead though, which makes me sad. 😢

[vestal aurora]

the grass puzzle gym seems fun

going around finding sunflora and walking around with them

[late tendon]

Gather happy sunfloras and have a happy run with them. Happy

[viscid adder]

yeah i liked sword and shield's box sprites
they're very detailed

HOLY CRAP BRAIN THOUGHT OF SOMETHING

What if that thing is ghost/steel?

Like, it's a ghost in a machine like rotom?

[fickle birch]

The leaks have given the typing of it a while back.

[viscid adder]

is it ghost steel?

[vestal aurora]

lmao

[viscid adder]

Nah you wouldn't fight a car

[vestal aurora]

pokemon

[viscid adder]

you fight its engine

[rich coral]

You underestimate me.

[fickle birch]

||It's Poison/Steel, a unique typing. 😅 ||

[vestal aurora]

just show us the mon already

[viscid adder]

OH SNAP the purple stuff really does mean something

[viscid adder]

probably some kind of parasite

[white jungle]

I was gonna do my tierlist but it was too A-tier heavy

Depending on Clawf's stats it might actually be pretty good

Especially if it gets shell smash as well

Because then you'd basically get a 2.5x shell smash up

The only struggle is getting that set up without it immediately being dunked by priority moves

This makes me wonder what the hell is happening with the ||Bisharp|| leak because I swear I thought the sword and armour guys were it

[strong trail]

they could be parallel evolutions of ||bisharp|| I suppose but they don't share the theming

[white jungle]

||I figured they were paradox forms but that doesn't check out||

[vestal aurora]

what i think is the prevo of the fire knights

[white jungle]

Honestly they're probably legendaries if they aren't ||related to Bisharp|| they seem in a league of their own compared to what we've seen so far

The only thing is, why the hell wouldn't they say that up front?

[vestal aurora]

i honestly think they're high bst mons but not special at all

[viscid adder]

||same broh
I mean, how the hell does bisharp become two versions of gallade?||

||unless...
the preevo is pawniard shaped?||

[gloomy inlet]

one with cannon and the one with sword

[rich coral]

No definitely not, leaks have told us their gimmick.

[white jungle]

Just checked Centro, I see that now

In hindsight I guess it's only weird to me because, as much as I love them, the Pokémon we've had so far for SV have been pretty down-to-earth

Realistically these two aren't any more crazy looking than other non-legendaries, they're just the wildest SV Mons we've seen, so that checks out

[rich coral]

I do get that.

[white jungle]

Speaking of which, Centro Leaks seems to think ||Dunsparce|| news is soon/next

It says soon, which I take to mean next, but we may be in for a mudslide of new content soon, so not necessarily

[forest egret]

The description for these knight dudes we were given with leaks seems really off now lol

[white jungle]

I like the Megaman one, but I feel like it's gonna be the less popular of the two

[forest egret]

The leaks said something like "Fire Knight and Sword" which like, yeah ig that's true but that's the worst way you could've described the blue one

[white jungle]

Don't get me wrong, sword dude is great, but gun armour is cool as fuck

[forest egret]

I think I like the gun one slightly more but they're both cool

[white jungle]

Definitely see it being way weaker though unless it is like... Considerably bulky

Because it feels like an obvious choice to be slower

And the sword one is ghost/fire, which is a great typing, especially since of the two of them it'll probably get the better speed

If not, what are the chance it doesn't get shadow sneak?

It's pokedex literally mentions it using sneak attacks

[fickle birch]

@viscid adder Spoiler tags. 😛

[white jungle]

It even gets Flash Fire, it's like a humanoid Chandelure

[lament glen]

Why is the grass type gym always an early game one?

[white jungle]

Doesn't have to be

Again, open world n'all

[forest egret]

Because grass is for small babbys

[lament glen]

As long as there will actually be level scaling

which sounds like something too advanced for gamefreak, not gonna lie lol

[forest egret]

||Which there apparently won't be||

So Ceruledge is ghost/fire and gets Flash Fire, hmm...

[white jungle]

So does Armarouge

[lament glen]

Is that the mega man?

[white jungle]

Which is a little lazy...

But hey, they might get independent hidden abilities later like the Sw/Sh starters

[forest egret]

||If the final evo of Fuecoco is fire/ghost, and if Hisuian Typhlosion returns, this could start getting silly||

[vestal aurora]

If you look closely at armarouge's armour it looks like pottery

[fickle birch]

||It's the new Fire/Fighting. 😂||

[vestal aurora]

And i think that's neat

[white jungle]

I know coming from a Unova fan this is a little rich but I wish they'd throw in some curveballs with the version exclusive stuff. Like clearly Armarouge will be Scarlet, Ceruledge will be Violet, but I kinda wish they'd reverse it

I mean odds are I'll be playing Scarlet anyway so who am I to complain

[forest egret]

And if Chandelure comes back too lol this is gonna suck

[vestal aurora]

||If that turns out to be true, one of the them won't be chosen by some players lol||

||Also i can't wait to see the rumored fire/grass mon||

||Also at this point i might turn into a fire specialist lmao||

[forest egret]

They're making up for Sinnoh

[viscid adder]

WE WILL BRING SPICE

[forest egret]

[opal gull]

I really hope ceruledge and pal swap colors for shinies

I like ceruledge wanted fire sword stuff for a while like health drain moves, that'd just be the deal

[opal gull]

between these bois and scarlet bike run animation I'm def leaning vilet despite much preferring red, and liking stuff like fossil pokemon, will have to see

[fickle birch]

That would be really, cool. I would also accept a lime Ceruledge, because lime fire is the best fire colour. 😄

[vestal aurora]

Armarouge being purpleish blue can also be super awesome

[lament glen]

I feel like we really have enough crab pokemon by now lol

[vestal aurora]

Agreed

If it was a little more "extra"

[lament glen]

This is probably the worst one so far imo

Same problems as the bunny starter from last gen

[vestal aurora]

But armarouge is a cool knight with a canon

A little too humanoid

But cool design

[strong trail]

What's wrong with Grapploct?

[lament glen]

forgettable but not necessarely offensive

[vestal aurora]

I love seeing these tier lists

Makes me realise that everyone has very different pokemon taste

[lament glen]

Would have been cooler if the sword guy was ice/ghost or something like that

[white jungle]

Ceruledge over Armarouge when the argument is that it shares the issues of Cinderace's design is crazy, Ceruledge is equally guilty but just pointy and dark

[lament glen]

I feel like it also has more armor and it feels pretty similar to gallade to me

But you're not wrong, pointy and dark did give it a boost over the other

[white jungle]

I mean I don't personally see how Cinderace and Gallade don't share similar designs outside of one being a furry. If anything I'd argue Armarouge is a closer Gallade-shape considering Ceruledge even has the smaller feet

[lament glen]

Gallade doesnt have human proportions

but these two new ones are indeed very similar, this was just my personal first impression of them, not based on any logic

All I knew of the two were the two small pictures on the tier maker site

[white jungle]

In fairness, I did forget about Gallade's unrealistic anime tiddies

But regardless I don't understand the dislike for humanoid Mons they're some of my favs

Especially Conkeldurr and the like

Just the middle-aged men of Pokémon

[lament glen]

Cinderace and Incineror just feel like people in suits to me, not like pokemon

Its a cat and a bunny. Why are they standing on two legs and have human bodies? There is so much cool stuff that could have been done with them that feels like their animal

Not saying that there cant be humanoid pokemon

The timbur line works really well

[limpid depot]

I usually like humanoid pokemon but
They don't look super good in the newer gen styles personally

Some detail about the proportions almost always feels off

[remote pelican]

Hey, I found a chart of the potential Pokédex that was made before the trailer dropped, with things in it that were confirmed by the trailer. Should I post it or no?

[lament glen]

Only with spoiler tags

[remote pelican]

I don’t know if I can do that on mobile, but if you can teach me how, I’d love to post it just to fire up a discussion.

Oh, wait, isn’t it just the spoiler bars next to each other and the picture you want spoilered

Lemme test that on something silly Incase I’m right or wrong

|| ||

Ok, nevermind

I looked it up, and I think I know how. Again, silly image in case it doesn’t work.

Yes!

@lament glen I figured out the spoiler thing, am I allowed to post the potential leak?

[lament glen]

Uh, sure 🙏

[remote pelican]

Thanks. I only wanted to do this so we can start to discuss what these Pokémon are and maybe even cross reference them to what gets revealed.

||for example, the crab on this is definitely Klawf, and the fire warrior/blade is Armorouge and Ceruledge.||

||if this list is to be trusted, which I have a fair amount of confidence in after the recent trailer, this could really help with team building||

[meager oasis]

I just saw the new trailer

The super anime sword fighting things are weird

But klawf is funny

[opal gull]

lots of weaknesses including early game bugs and flying, sometimes poison, fits into starter trio typing,

[fickle birch]

Ooh, that would be cool. 😄

[lament glen]

Ah, thats why the ice type gym is always late game then

[meager oasis]

Ice gym is prob late because ice types are always late

[lament glen]

How about not making them late then?

Or how about a elite 4 member using electric types for once. Never been done before for some reason lol

[meager oasis]

I’ve been always wanting that

Closest it ever happened was in gen 8 with wild area

But wild area was littered with heaps of other pokemon anyway

They needa make a region that’s super cold or something so you can get heaps of ice types early in the game

Like a Russian region or something

[lament glen]

It's called sinnoh

[meager oasis]

But you don’t get any ice types early in sinnoh

[lament glen]

yea

[limpid depot]

Unpopular opinion
They'll give up on basing regions on real places in like
Maybe 2 or 3 gens tops

[lament glen]

no

[meager oasis]

I don’t see why they’d do that

[limpid depot]

I don't know

[lament glen]

there is so much stuff for them to choose

india, south America, svandinavia...

idk why they are going for their 3rd europe region in 4 gens tho

[meager oasis]

And australia

Or Egypt

Egypt would be cool

[limpid depot]

I think as soon as the tropey places everyone knows ends they'll stop wanting to be linked to the real world

[meager oasis]

And yea I got tired of European countries they are all the same

GIMME AUSTRALIA REGION

[limpid depot]

The second they don't have any choice but make a third world country the region they'll dip

I can just feel it

[lament glen]

naah, I don't see it

[limpid depot]

I don't see it either
But I feel it

[meager oasis]

They don’t even have to do whole countries

Unova is just New York or something

Whatever that is anyway

[lament glen]

last time i checked there wasnt a desert in new york

[meager oasis]

A city is that it?

Yea

[lament glen]

or a city based on dragon mythodology

honestly, I think they just gave up with their theme in the 2nd half of the region lol

[meager oasis]

They can add more stuff if they want to

I don’t think there’s a desert in hawaii or japan

[lament glen]

I still want a pokemon game set in space:

Game starts with a cutscene in hoen with a rocket full of trainers and professors launching into space

and then the region is a few planets full of new pokemon and differently evolved forms of old mons with people settling down in camps and exploring alongside you

trailers scaling would make sense since everyone starts their adventure at the same time

Hoped for something since gen 6, but so far nothing notable has happened aside from regional forms xD

[meager oasis]

That would be cool

I want Australia region or something

[lament glen]

A region where inkay is not upside down?

[meager oasis]

Perhaps

That would be a funny joke if they added that to the region

[fickle birch]

That's one thing I liked about getting SwSh on Christmas; because of how the weather works, you were guaranteed Ice-types as soon as you got to the Wild Area because they forced it to snow on Christmas. 😄

[meager oasis]

And then an upside down malamar regional

[meager oasis]

Ye, I got a vanillite for my team at the start of the wild area

It was nice having an ice type so early for once

[lament glen]

I used arctip in my playthrough

and wobuffet

and a few new ones but they werent a cool

[meager oasis]

Arcovish?

Oh wait

That’s avalugg

[lament glen]

yeah

isnt the prevo called arctip? maybe thats the german name

[meager oasis]

Yes

[lament glen]

I suck with pokemon names past gen 5 xD

[meager oasis]

I remember a lot of foreign names of pokemon from when I no-lifed pokecord a long time ago

[lament glen]

whats that?

[meager oasis]

A discord bot

It just spawns pokemon while people talk and then you catch them with a command

And using foreign names lets you catch certain ones faster because they are shorter words

Well the bot got shut down and replaced with a new one called poketwo

[gloomy inlet]

ah yes, i play pokétwo. uu, tic, rokon, crab, sand, abo, and more shorter name than English

[patent rivet]

That rival team’s big car give me Splatoon vibes with how disproportionate and cartoony it is

Also I see we have Mega Man X and Zero Pokémon

[meager oasis]

Oh

I just remembered that

There’s a red pokemon thing that’s also revealed a while ago

I have no idea what it’s name is it’s so forgettable

I never see anybody talk about it ever

[inland sparrow]

sorry what are you talking about?

[meager oasis]

It’s a weird fat red rodent pokemon

This thing

I had to scroll up and find it in somebody’s image lol

[forest egret]

That's orange

[meager oasis]

Close enough

[forest egret]

It's popular on twitter

[inland sparrow]

you mean pawmi my adorable boi?

[forest egret]

I think he's just ok

Pikaclone and all that

[meager oasis]

Oh that’s it’s name

[viscid adder]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1567624642147532801

JUM🅱️O (@bromojumbo)

Hear me out

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Twitter · Sep 7, 2022, 9:23 PM

[opal gull]

https://twitter.com/_LittleParade_/status/1567510649546149888 hmm

【LittleParade】 (@_LittleParade_)

I fixed it :^) #PokemonScarletViolet #Pokemon #Armarouge #Ceruledge

Twitter · Sep 7, 2022, 1:50 PM

[flint sequoia]

there seem to be a lot of fire/ghost pokemon in the recent gens

[opal gull]

I hope fuecoco aint actualy fire ghost on top of last starter being fire ghost on top of a new prominent fire ghost already this gen

[flint sequoia]

Hopefully, but we got Dhelmise in gen7 and Hisuian Lilligant in LA that shared types with decidueye

[opal gull]

yeah but dhelmise was also kinda steel

and there werent 2 starters in a row among those

it's like if in gen 4 they didnt have the fire shortage issue but the other fire pokemon was also fire fighting

and it was lucario or somethin

[meager oasis]

It’s the new grass/ghost type frenzy

Perhaps water/ghost will be next

[remote pelican]

I didn’t see any water ghost types in my little chart, but there were some question marks around some water types, and honestly, water ghost is just ASKING for a Pirate spirit

[opal gull]

pirate spirit is just asking for naval duck trouble

https://www.trendsmap.com/twitter/tweet/1567565674985259010

[meager oasis]

i read this as among us

[opal gull]

anybody know what bitter blade is called in jp

[forest egret]

Munen no Tsurugi (Sword of Regret)

[opal gull]

tyvm

[viscid adder]

oh that sounds badass

[viscid adder]

hmmm
got me thinking

so you know the legendaries' pre-evo started out as just a regular pokemon that lasted for years?

Welll

What if it can be applied to other pokemon?

You know, like dinosaurs that evolved into birds through countless years of evolution and adaptation?

[forest egret]

Yeah?

Oh, are you referring to ||paradox pokemon?||

[viscid adder]

||yeah||

||but more importantly an expansion on that idea||

||not just another form||

[forest egret]

Ah so, according to the leaks we know about ||paradox dudes, they're not true "past" and "future" forms exactly, they're like, unnatural and wouldn't normally exist, hence the name. They're also supposed to be strong yeah||

[viscid adder]

yeh

[vestal aurora]

https://twitter.com/bromojumbo/status/1567619451151073281?t=evIdVTk5cUpol6hPgRdE3A&s=19

JUM🅱️O (@bromojumbo)

Dunno why, but Klawf radiates Danny Devito energy

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Twitter · Sep 7, 2022, 9:02 PM

[forest egret]

I'm the crabman, that's my character!

[fickle birch]

I don't think that's a title anyone wants. 😂

[ripe thunder]

Are Armarouge and Ceruledge completely two different Pokémon?

[vestal aurora]

Yes

Probably split evos from the same base

They're version exclusives as well

[smoky bison]

https://twitter.com/gatekid3/status/1567524013122912257

gatekid3 (@gatekid3)

Wasn't expecting new #PokemonScarletViolet stuff to drop. I'm still not past Grafaiai.

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Twitter · Sep 7, 2022, 2:43 PM

[forest egret]

Perfect

[fickle birch]

Really? 😮

[opal gull]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/693703992290574347/1017331727124938792/221B2666-FD86-4DC0-B93C-6E7D50E7F8E6.jpg

[rich coral]

Anthros, am I right?

[white jungle]

Tbh I'd have preferred it to be fire/fighting

I can't really be mad about it being fire/psychic because it's a decently unique type but still

I just wish there were more special fighting moves

[fickle birch]

Not a fan of version evolutions if this turns out to be true, that's exploitative compared to more conventional branched evolutions. 😦

[smoky bison]

seems also like a lazy cop-out, right?

[fickle birch]

Yeah, like why couldn't they just do the Shiny Stone and Dusk Stone? 😂

[lament glen]

Not trying to defend these games or the stupid 2 version concept in general, but this just seems like a normal version exclusive with a spin to me 🤷‍♀️

[limpid depot]

Reminds me of lycanrock in sun and moon

[lament glen]

was that the same? dont remember

[limpid depot]

Which let's be real should've always just been a day-night evo

[lament glen]

yea

[limpid depot]

It was
Just technically forms instead of whole different pokemon

[lament glen]

sothey have the same dex number?

but they are complerely different mons

damn

[fickle birch]

It's not a spin when it's been done three games in a row, it's a trope now. 😦

[lament glen]

thats fair

[fickle birch]

Appletun's my third favourite Pokémon and I had to trade to get it in Sword. 😂

[lament glen]

oh he's the same true

[opal gull]

tbf that would mean it couldnt even affect its counterpart

also the signature move is fire not psychic, so it wouldn't give that

the special fighting moves

[viscid adder]

Same dex number but different mon
Hmmm...
If that's the case, what can we call the mon overall?
...
Huevalier?

Yeah, huevalier

And the two mons are subspecies

[white jungle]

What I will say

Is that I hope Klawf means we're past giving unimportant Pokémon dogshit worthless abilities.

Anger shell actually seems like something that could be put to decent use

[patent rivet]

He was talking about Lycanroc

[viscid adder]

Oh

Oh poop

[rich coral]

Klawf is literally a bossfight, far from unimportant.

[white jungle]

The way it's worded, we'll run into multiple titan Pokémon. Klawf is a one stage mono-type. It's not really important.

[rich coral]

According to leaks ||That description applues to all titan Pokémon, of which there are 4 if I recall correctly.||

[smoky bison]

Majoras mask reboot?

[lament glen]

Early Gen 10 leak

[south trellis]

hyper realistic?

[smoky bison]

No level scaling confirned

[meager oasis]

i hope minior comes back

i want to use meteor beam + shell smash on it

[lament glen]

rip this game lol

[patent rivet]

Did they confirm it?

[smoky bison]

Yeah, it's what the games homepage says

"There is no set path to the Gyms. You can purposefully seek out a stronger Gym Leader"

https://scarletviolet.pokemon.com/en-us/news/the_story/

[white jungle]

Eh, that's not confirmation. Plus that's been around for a while.

There could easily be simply stronger gym leaders whilst also having level scaling.

[lapis linden]

Yeah I definitely wouldn’t say that’s confirming anything. Especially since like a dragon type gym will be harder with your starter and route 1 mons even with level scaling lol

[white jungle]

However I do think ||there have been leaks talking about it, though the subject always seems weirdly vague||

[smoky bison]

No scaling. Ypu heard it here first, folks

[opal gull]

yeah they could set as always being stronger releative to where you are

but its sadly a real possiblity there isn't scaling

even though tht defeats any point to it

[viscid adder]

Clefable but they are truly alien

[knotty path]

Shiny crab concepts

[lapis linden]

I like the blue one

[late tendon]

The brown one looks tasty

[opal gull]

did you make em or find em?

[knotty path]

made em

I do shiny concepts a lot for pre-release revealed mons

here's my sprigatito concepts from awhile back

and fuecoco concepts (I lacked ideas for the duck sry lmao)

(my favorites are probs Cherry Blossom and Autumn (Light) for cat and the bottom-right Fuecoco that I based on Red Delicious apples lol)

[opal gull]

couldja do color swap shinies for ceruledge and armorouge

fuecoco be a pepper mainly googles huh well its just bell peppers but apparnelty purple ones exist, wasn't aware fo that

ah not just bells

[patent rivet]

And then they just end up doing this

[knotty path]

Probably lmao

[opal gull]

lol

will it look like crayon? cause that does feel fitting

[gloomy inlet]

whoa, i never see a purple Chili before 😮

[opal gull]

me either

https://twitter.com/pbx_hvn_breaker/status/1567754306341994496

Pillar_Buster (@pbx_hvn_breaker)

sketched a combined form of Ceruledge and Armarogue

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Twitter · Sep 8, 2022, 5:58 AM

[patent rivet]

That looks more like a Digimon

[opal gull]

oh def not a pokemon design just a cool thing

tbh with the eyes in particular it's not quite digimon either but its def outside realm of pokemon

[fickle birch]

New Shinies have really been annoying me for this reason, it's like "oh the design's perfect, we don't need to change it", literally forgetting that one of the few unanimous things in the fandom is people hating Shinies that barely change. 😢

[vestal aurora]

still prefer the cooler daniel

[white jungle]

People gonna sleep on the cooler Daniel

I know it's almost guaranteed to be the weaker of the two but design and concept wise it's got so much more going for it imo

[vestal aurora]

yeah type is not as good but i always go for design over usability

[white jungle]

I think it's more an issue of it likely being the slower of the two

And whilst it may be bulkier due to armour, it's signature lowers its defense stats

Compare this to bitter blade which literally does health steal

[forest egret]

Yeah type-wise they're pretty equal

[white jungle]

I do think it's weird they both only get flashfire. Low-key hoping that gets changed later because Armarouge could have been used as an excuse for a mega launcher expansion

[vestal aurora]

they'll probably have a cool ha

[forest egret]

Cyclizar's the only dude we've seen so far with a brand new ability right

[vestal aurora]

klawf is the only one with a new ability i think

cyclizar has a new move

[forest egret]

Ah that's it, yeah

Idk, flash fire is just sort of a disappointing ability for both in general. We've got enough fire types with it already

[icy forge]

Maybe Flash Fire is buffed in this gen 🤔

[white jungle]

Mega launcher working with like

Fire blast or some shit

Could have been pretty huge

And would work great for Armarouge

[desert rapids]

whats klawfs ability?

[vestal aurora]

anger shell

when it reaches half hp it get's a sp.def and def decrease in exchange for a speed atk and sp. atk boost

[fickle birch]

A free Shell Smash when it hits less than half HP. 😦

[white jungle]

Hardly

[desert rapids]

:O

WOW

[fickle birch]

Scary. 😂

[white jungle]

You're far overestimating x1.5 compared to x2

[vestal aurora]

it's still better than nothing

[white jungle]

But the more important question is if it GETS shell smash

[fickle birch]

It's close enough to a free Shell Smash, it's just a discount one. 😛

[white jungle]

Because shell smash with anger shell would be strong, even for a mono rock

[vestal aurora]

if it get's shell smash then shell armor is the better ability imo

[fickle birch]

If it gets Shell Smash it's gonna be a beast; Shell Smash, takes a hit so Anger Shell activates, you're at +3. Only priority moves would be able to get it at that point. 😅

Unless its Speed is really bad, that is.

[white jungle]

Well, it will be, but even poor speed at +3 is good speed

Like, take Turtonator for an example

Solid shell smasher hindred by low speed

But if, by some miracle of God, you get more than +2, you cross that threshold into useable speed

[opal gull]

I lied the alt osmebody di better but still def prefer ceruledge

[opal gull]

hidden abilities exist tbf

[knotty path]

quaxly shiny concepts

[opal gull]

what about yellow duck

[opal gull]

https://mobile.twitter.com/PSantheran/status/1568259163712815105 now it's a digimon

Pravin Rao Santheran (@PSantheran)

Armaredge or Cerulouge
What if ....?

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[viscid adder]

Oh that's Digimon right there

Cool fusion btw

Compliments to the artist

[icy forge]

https://twitter.com/avHYCcH3x80KCUE/status/1567854166030286848

フキダシコットン『1日1枚‼』 (@avHYCcH3x80KCUE)

グレンアルマ×レジドラゴ
#ポケモン #Pokémon #イラスト　#ポケモンSV

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[gloomy inlet]

excuse me what the fuck, again? gamefreak?
Alverie, Cacturne-guy, Pier, Volo..., And this?

[forest egret]

Oh you only just found out? Lol

Yeah Grusha's a dude

Oh wait, those other dudes you mention aren't the same, nvm. What's the problem?

[gloomy inlet]

confusing intensifies

[forest egret]

You thought Piers looked androgynous or something? I don't see it he has a manly face

[sterile garnet]

Wait did you believe all these guys were gals at some point or am i missing something?

[vestal aurora]

The only one i didn't think that was male at first was grusha

[gloomy inlet]

still can't believe this guy(?) is a male

confusion : 💯

[sterile garnet]

Guys can be feminin and like pink too.

[gloomy inlet]

i don't say she... uh he can't, I just kinda confused when first time They're revealed

same go to Gardevoir, right?

[sterile garnet]

Why did you say she? And why did you correct it like we were talking person to person. I think you are the only person who makes it more confusing

[limpid depot]

Eh they all look pretty standard for pretty anime boys imo

Grusha's the only one that actually fooled me

And probably cuz his face is half covered

[forest egret]

Yeah same here, the others it seems pretty easy to tell

[white jungle]

Volo's very Obviously a guy

[forest egret]

Here's Grusha's face btw

[white jungle]

Assuming "Cacturne guy" is Harley from the anime, dude's just flamboyant

[white jungle]

Why does it look weirdly high quality??

[forest egret]

Looks the same as everything else in the trailer to me. Perhaps it's all the particles everywhere

[white jungle]

Also I only just realised Klawf's Dex entry states that the people of Paldea eat it's claws, which regrow

Nice to see more info on eating Pokémon even if it's another case of "don't worry guys ahaha they regrow and don't die it's okay"

[forest egret]

Oh, and that's what we do with real life Stone Crabs

interesting

It's funny how far this type of thing has come since Slowpoke tail stuff was originally like, illegal and stuff in the games

[limpid depot]

To be fair pretty sure regrowing arms is a normal crab thing

[forest egret]

It is indeed. Rock crabs specifically are the ones where people harvest them to eat their claws, and Klawf is a rock type crab. It's like a fun little reference to that i suppose

If you find that sorta thing "fun"

[white jungle]

Was it illegal or was it the overharvesting that was illegal, I've never been clear on that?

[gloomy inlet]

yes, him

[forest egret]

I actually don't think they ever elaborate. Since you can eat Slowpoke tail in swsh I assume it's the latter, atleast now

Anyways, leak thingy time for those who haven't seen

[limpid depot]

||Oh huh we got an actual elite 4 now
That's nice, it kinda made the swsh cast feel considerably smaller||

[gloomy inlet]

do a ||rock mono run|| then you're the remaining specialist

[forest egret]

[white jungle]

6 Klawf

In all fairness if I was gonna choose a type to SPECIALISE in... Probably wouldn't be rock

Like don't get me wrong, Gigalith? Tyranitar? Some of my favourite Pokémon

But ironically I think Rock as a whole feels more unpopular than Ice

And maybe someone has some epic retort to that but like

Rock monos are typically bad

And most rock dual types are making an existing type worse

Aerodactyl is cool tbf

[gloomy inlet]

why?

[white jungle]

Set up for failure, what the hell have they got going for them most of the time?

Most rock types are slow, and that trend continues with monos outside of like, Lycanroc

[gloomy inlet]

i still don't understand

oh

[white jungle]

Stone edge is only 80 acc and is like

All they've got. To the point that you have non skill-link Mons being forced to use rock blast.

Sandstorm teams are scary don't get me wrong but like

[gloomy inlet]

welp, my railem (Elect/Rock) in PIF also faint so often 😅 even fainted to a fire type move

[white jungle]

You aren't usually shitting yourself over rock types in a sand team

[white jungle]

I mean electric/rock, that's what I'm talking about with dual rock types

So many dual rock types have 1 or more 4x super effective type against them

[gloomy inlet]

i mean "mono run" is all your party should be rock type, and any other type available

[white jungle]

Rock just overall feels weak, and it's crazy because Head Smash is one of the stronger moved and there are multiple rock types which take no recoil from it whilst getting stab

And I would put it behind ice types for the simple fact that, whilst there are a lot of bad ice types, the ones that are built as fast glass cannons are scary

And aurora veil is a really good move

Not to mention most rock types get obliterated by burn

Honestly getting to the point that I really hate burn as a mechanic because being able to so easily shut down an entire Pokémon feels wrong. Really hope they replace freeze with frostbite officially to balance it but idk how likely it is

[patent rivet]

I guess we know what type the player character should be using

[opal gull]

https://twitter.com/TinaFate1/status/1568169555150913537

CEO of MILFS (@TinaFate1)

https://t.co/1in83hMLq4

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[thin wolf]

a new gen of pokemon, another goth woman to simp for

[white jungle]

Oh she's not goth, she's just wearing black because the queen died

[smoky bison]

wouldn't wanna have it any other way 😩

[gloomy inlet]

what if she has a battle music similar to Lusamine or Oleana, but more spanish vibe🗿

[wanton idol]

the spanish vibe being 36 civil wars

[gloomy inlet]

probably 🗿

[fickle birch]

||Fire-types have it easy for the first half, it seems. 😂||

||Is that every type except Rock? 😮 ||

[patent rivet]

Read what it says at the bottom of the image

[patent rivet]

Why not just link the Serebii page instead?

[fickle birch]

Because it's fun to type them out. 😛

[vestal aurora]

do you guys think the nintendo direct might have some ScVi info?

[lament glen]

All

goddamit

All I hope for is an

Advance Wars release date. There are/have been so many great games this year that I really dont need anything else honestly

not sure what ScVi stands for

[vestal aurora]

Scarlet&Violet

[lament glen]

oh lol

my brain xD

[vestal aurora]

advance wars is also on my list lmao

[lament glen]

dont think so lol, pokemon usually does its own thing

[vestal aurora]

yeah, but i think it appeared in a direct not long ago kinda surprising us lol

not too sure tho

[lament glen]

At this point I'm more than done with new pokemon games anyway. If gen 9 comes out and is praised to death I'll maybe take a look, but somehow I doubt that will happen xD

some of the stuff they showed recently did look like its going in a better direction tho at least

but the forced exp all still ruins modern pokemon for me by itself

[vestal aurora]

yeah i get that

[white jungle]

I don't

I mean whatever boats your float but like

At the end of the day if the thing keeping you away from something is it being impossible to make grinding even more annoying for yourself, I don't particularly get that as a reason

[lament glen]

I never grind in any pokemon game lol

The Exp All just changes how your team works fundamentally. Instead of having to keep the aspect of distributing exp into account, you just throw in whatever works best because everything gets exp anyway. Even your hm laver you never once used will be ready for the elite 4 when you get there.

It removes a layer of strategy, makes you always overleveled like shit and it feels completely unrelaistic when your mon you havent used in 10 battles suddently evolves for no reason

And worst of all, there is literally not a single sane reason to remove the optional feature of turning it on/off. Its just the pokemon developers being on expired crack or something

[vestal aurora]

different players have different needs imo

i would prefer if it was optional

but we have to keep in mind that this is a kids game lmao

[white jungle]

A better way to implement strategy into your Pokémon getting stronger would be to rework EV's and IV's so they aren't weird as shit tbh

What you're describing assumes that a person without exp share won't grind their Pokémon up anyway, reaching the same result in a more tedious way

Your problem seems more based in the games not being difficult, which isn't an exp share issue. The games are just easy.

[lament glen]

Bro, I want to be underleveled when I play pokemon because that is the only way these games are at least somewhat challening

Why is it so hard to let people play how they want and give them the options to do so

I swear, gamefreak is the only developer that doesnt get this for some reason

[fickle birch]

I'm not expecting much because we just got a trailer, Pokémon usually operates pretty independently from Nintendo Directs outside of recaps and teasers. I'd be very happy to be wrong, though. 😅

[fickle birch]

@icy forge Spoiler tag. 😛

[icy forge]

Ah Sorry

||https://twitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1569358650485133314?cxt=HHwWhMDS9ZbYvccrAAAA||

||https://twitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1569361770929688581?cxt=HHwWisC8heiNv8crAAAA||

[meager oasis]

Official art

[fickle birch]

Pre-ordered Scarlet today, apparently we're getting figures of the starters as a bonus here in the UK. Coolest bonus in a long time. 🙂

[lament glen]

Not a fan of preorders and special editions, usually never get them

The only exception was Xenoblade Definitive Edition where you got a vinyl with the soundtrack on it for only like 15 or so bucks more. That one was totally worth it, even for me xD

[fickle birch]

I'm not normally a fan, but if I'm buying the game anyway, I'll indulge. The only exception was SwSh after they announced Dexit. 😂

[vestal aurora]

wait

you can get cool starter figures as a bonus in the uk

what the hell can i get for being living in part of the inspiration for the game

[lament glen]

youth unemployment

[vestal aurora]

Sounds about right

[smoky bison]

You get 10 potions and 3 revives if you preorder it digitally

[wanton idol]

in denmark you get the preorder bonus of the air that comes with the game

[white jungle]

In the US you get professor Sada's farts in a jar to do with what you will

Apparently there's already been 5 million preorders from America alone.

[forest egret]

Why do you have to turn the convo into something like that

[vestal aurora]

and why do i feel like that's something that would captivate americans

[fickle birch]

I assume mini figures, for Legends we just got stickers. 😅

[vestal aurora]

some say mini is better than large

[patent rivet]

What

[fickle birch]

If you know, you know. 😉

[white jungle]

See it's funny because size is in reference to how big someone's penis is

And in society it is considered bad for ones penis to be small

Leading to pushback by the small-of-penis who do not want to be seen as lesser and claim that size does not matter

Everyone loves penis jokes

[limpid depot]

Good old Ratchet and Clank titles

[white jungle]

I'm so tired of the pretentious assholes who keep being like "Well you can criticise Gamefreak all you want, they'll just keep doing what they want with the game because they know people are gonna buy it!! 🤓"

Like congrats you leaky fucking hole you just figured out how capitalism works what do you want a medal

You're not saying shit people don't know

Consumers can complain about the product they're consuming when parts of it are blatantly ripping them off.

[lapis linden]

Well many of the people who say that basically grew up and realized the game they loved is a flawed kids game lmao and don’t want to admit

[patent rivet]

Especially since I didn't buy them

I don't control the masses, especially not the stupid children