My favorite Pokemon is Klikdiklak
#pokemon-winds-waves
inland sparrow
fickle birch
To be fair, Arceus used to be Ar-see-us, but they changed it to Ar-kay-us because it sounded like arse, Brittish slang meaning ass. 😅
lament glen
To be fair, Arceus used to be Ar-see-us, but they changed it to Ar-kay-us becaus...
Is "snuffing" also real british slang? Cuz its used all the time in xenoblade 3
fickle birch
Is "snuffing" also real british slang? Cuz its used all the time in xenoblade 3
In what context? 😮
Like "snuffing out"? 🙂
lament glen
Like replacing "fucking" mostly
They do swear quite a lot in the game but they also often use replacement words like that
"Do our lifes mean so snuffing little to you?"
fickle birch
No, that's not British slang at all. "Chuffing" is the closest and that's used in certain parts of the country only. 😅
patent rivet
I’ve heard of porn being referred to as snuff films though
Oh no, apparently it’s porn of an actual murder
Gonna stop now
fickle birch
Yeah, but that's more as an adjective rather than a verb. 😅
"Snuffing" isn't ever used here outside of "snuffing out", and even then it's not the most common phrase. 😮
patent rivet
That makes sense with the murder part of the definition
half gorge
Is "snuffing" also real british slang? Cuz its used all the time in xenoblade 3
I think it's a clever swear change to fit a motif of the Flame Clocks.
For example, snuffing out a fire or sparking a flame.
wide iris
Is "snuffing" also real british slang? Cuz its used all the time in xenoblade 3
I think xb3 just has a bunch of made up swear words, I heard a guy saying another weird word as a cuss in a video about it
limpid depot
A bit late but
I pronounce Arceus as Ar-Seh-Oos
Mostly cuz
It matches the portuguese pronunciation for the word "Deus" (meaning god) as well as Zeus (a very notable god)
inland sparrow
I used to say "Ar-See-Us" but MandJTV introduced me to a better way to say it: "Ar-Coos".
wide iris
When the ar says oos
opal gull
I remember when the cartoon network announcer and in movie announcer pronounced arceus diferently
meager oasis
lapis linden
Cute
gloomy inlet
it's fomantis, not fromantis 🗿
most pokétwo player (discord bot) always typo on that 🤣
white jungle
Is "snuffing" also real british slang? Cuz its used all the time in xenoblade 3
Not as far as I can tell, closest example would be shagging from Scotland
Because England is lame as fuck
rich coral
Could someone check for me again if it was leaked ||that paradox Pokémon were postgame exclusive||?
smoky bison
That wouldn't make sense since ||the legendaries are parafox mons supposedly and you get them before postgame||
rich coral
||We were specifically told the opposite. Sure, can get to ride them before, but not use them in combat.||
white jungle
Apparently we've had confirmation that development for PLA started in 2018
quiet frost
WHAT
white jungle
Yup, three years
Same amount of time as Scarlet and Violet got, as it started when development for Sw/Sh ended
wide iris
I believe it 100%
PLA had different people heading the project than the usual mainline directors, iirc
And it's pretty obvious considering SV got announced like literally 2 months after PLA released and would be coming out the same year
fickle birch
I've just found out that Jacq's name comes from the zinnia plant. I wonder if he'll be related to Zinnia in some capacity, or if it's just a coincidence (probably the latter). 😅
wide iris
I'm 70% certain zinnia was meant to appear in pokemon Z
fickle birch
It wouldn't surprise me, she was pretty popular in ORAS and there were a lot of loose threads in XY that Z would have addressed. 😦
wide iris
It could be that thing where people see patterns where they aren't but I'll choose to believe it's a reference, Jacque being a French name and all
fickle birch
The spelling choice is specifically being derived from the zinnia plant. I remember thinking it was an odd spelling, now I know why. 😂
wide iris
His mom passed out before she could write the last two letters on his birth certificate
white jungle
Yeah that's my man jackwa
wide iris
Jakooie
rich coral
Could someone check for me again if it was leaked ||that paradox Pokémon were po...
Sorry to bring this up again but I fear I am still in need of help.
fickle birch
||Why would they lock a gimmick to postgame? That seems silly. 😅||
forest egret
||According to Centro's leaks, it's "almost at the end of the game"||
rich coral
That would be a bit different... do you have the post somewhere?
fickle birch
||I could see it happening as part of the climax, with a breach into space-time or something happening. Post-game though, I don't see that happening. 😅||
||Also, what does "almost at the end" mean when there's three stories? Is it at the end of one of the branches, or do they all come back and then this is like the "final chapter" of the main story? 😮||
rich coral
||There probably is, yeah. Though, what I mean is specifically catching them.||
forest egret
wide iris
||Why would they lock a gimmick to postgame? That seems silly. 😅||
||ultra beasts||
rich coral
||It does sound like we will see and probably battle them, but will be able to obtain them?||
Ah.
Thank you.
fickle birch
||The collection of types for 25/28 of these forms seems to have leaked; Electric probably being for Future forms, and Fighting for past, because they correlate with the typings of Miraidon and Koraidon respectively. 😃||
wide iris
Didn't they already have those in pla
rich coral
Apparently, though still, with how things have gone it would not have been a surprise if they removed it again.
fickle birch
The Zamazenta scene still sends shivers down my spine. Who thought that was okay? 😦
rich coral
No one, no one wanted this.
The devs are being hustled for their work because of yearly releases in a franchise that does not need it.
fickle birch
It's not even that. Game Freak refuses to expand, so the staff don't have time to do basic things like... make the game not look awful. 😅
Most profitable media franchise of all time. I think SV is a visual step up from SwSh, and quite a big one at that, but we've basically gone from early GameCube graphics to, at most, late Wii. 😦
rich coral
I wonder how profitable it would be if it ran on a regular budget.
white jungle
It's tough to have an actual conversation about graphics whilst comparing it to older gen console graphics because you'll never actually say anything that fully encompasses bad new gen graphics as a whole
You can say SV looks like a late Wii game and in some ways you'd be right
But people desperate to defend the graphics will counter that areas of graphics (like scales and shiny objects) look really good
And whilst those specific areas don't make all the graphics good, it does put a dent in all the claims that the trailers look like a PS2 game or whatever
wide iris
It's not even that. Game Freak refuses to expand, so the staff don't have time t...
Expanding costs money, something the producer (nintendo) has the hold on
fickle birch
But people desperate to defend the graphics will counter that areas of graphics ...
Scales look good in SV, the texturing on the Pokémon is way better. But the environments drag it down. 😅
fickle birch
Expanding costs money, something the producer (nintendo) has the hold on
Surprisingly, I don't think this is entirely true. Game Freak has insisted on being a small team because that's how they've always been, even though development teams have (out of sheer necessity) ballooned in order to enable things like the polish we used to see in older generations. Every interior being identical like in Hulbury didn't happen in the old games, even if it was just moving furniture configurations around. It's amazing how small details like that make the game feel less cheap, though. 🙂
wide iris
gamefreak insists a lot of things to keep the heat off their bosses
and to insist everything is going as planned even during the times when it pretty obvious it isn't
that isn't to say there probably isn't some truth to it, though, I can see GF having agreed in a contract meeting long ago to keep the team small because of those reasons
fickle birch
I just think the current management is incapable of managing a larger team and that's the reason. 😦
wide iris
well, yeah
it wouldn't be the only reason, though
it's one of those things that's interconnected with all the others
white jungle
One move tweak I'd like to see this then would be make avalanche work like an ice rock slide, or just make it slightly different from ice rockslide
wide iris
I'm a proponent of just making copies of moves into different types just to throw a bone to types that need it
white jungle
The boost for hitting after doesn't really make sense for the concept of the move? And it's a move used by ice types so like you ideally shouldn't be hitting after
white jungle
I'm a proponent of just making copies of moves into different types just to thro...
I mean I'm mixed?? Sometimes I don't like it
But for avalanche it feels like there's no reason for it to act like it does
If anything, rock slide and avalanche being swapped would make more sense (though I wouldn't like that either)
wide iris
maybe not types in general, but pokemon that are gimped by poor move selection
I don't like any moves that require you to get hit, I never want to get hit
fickle birch
Yeah, Rock and Fairy could do with more Special and Physical moves, respectively. If they're clones, I don't care, they just need new moves. 🙂
wide iris
rock could do with just, good moves in general
ironically its only Special attack is the only rock move over 60 BP that I don't hate using
and I would appreciate a 60 BP fairy physical move so granbull and mawile aren't useless until level 85 or whenever it is they get play rough
white jungle
ironically its only Special attack is the only rock move over 60 BP that I don't...
Really, no head smash??
Or uhhhh
What's the rock one with like 150 BP but super hard recoil that's given to Pokémon which can completely negate said recoil
I always find that one pretty fun
wide iris
I thought that was head smash
white jungle
Yeah
white jungle
Y'know it's funny
Never had any significant misses with head smash.
Hydro pump? Same acc??
Worst. Fucking. Move.
white jungle
But head smash works fine for me.
wide iris
plus low PP moves
white jungle
Funny how moves like that can be beloved or hated because of luck
white jungle
plus low PP moves
God yeah I've realised how much I hate those with revisiting older games
I think I made this suggestion the other day but I think I'd take it two ways if I had the option
Either
A) make all moves at highest pp possible from the get go
Or!
B) have pp scale by a percentage as a Pokémon levels up
All pp for all moves
I think A would be the best QOL but B would better fit an RPG (which a lot of Pokémon should be changed to do better)
wide iris
could we just split pokemon into a comp series and an RPG series, I'd like that
white jungle
Like I definitely think IV's and EV's need a more openly-acknowledged upgradeable vibe instead of being some semi-secretive often invisible thing???
wide iris
IVs should just die
white jungle
I think the grit system was fucking brilliant in PLA
It let me feel like I was doing something to make my Pokémon stronger, but it didn't irritate me by keeping that behind dumb methods and cash farming
I think my like
Big, never gonna happen ask
For all of Pokémon
Would be a large scale overhaul/rebalance to just, like
All of it?
I don't necessarily mean the fucking "This is too strong!! Make it better!!" Screw that
wide iris
that sounds like pokemon-inspired indie game territory
white jungle
Make other stuff stronger and more fun
There are so many abilities which are just nothing
They are such non-starters that they just don't matter at all
Little tweaks to some weak pokemon's movesets could make them somewhat usable
Maybe I'm just in a Radical Red mindset but like
wide iris
yeah I was gonna say
white jungle
For what flaws it does have, that game did some Mons really well
Leavanny is genuinely really enjoyable (though blademaster seems to be a tad spammed onto a lot of pokemon)
It gets victory dance, it still gets sticky web it's great
And as far as I can tell? 0 stat tweaks
It got a single move, and a good ability
I can't be too harsh on gen 5 Mons you know I love em
wide iris
What can we do for lumineon
white jungle
Does it get tail glow?
wide iris
Iunno
white jungle
Because if not, it feels like it should get tail glow
Literally LUMIneon
It could probably receive the fairy typing so long as it gets something to actually use it with
It does in fact get tail glow
rich coral
These are some whacky typings, honestly.
white jungle
||okay well it feels like they obviously messed up donphan||
||which they state they aren't sure about||
||zweilous is exciting because Hydreigon is fucking awesome||
wide iris
||It's possible there's a little type switcheroo just so violet boys don't miss out on all the fighting types||
white jungle
||It's possible there's a little type switcheroo just so violet boys don't miss ...
||possibly but for Donphan specifically it feels very unlikely, especially since they said they aren't sure. Most likely his future version will be vehicle-based ground/electric||
wide iris
||I can see a fighting-type future donphan being a sort of evolved biped, at least||
rich coral
||How likely do you think Ice/Water Delibird is correct?||
white jungle
||How likely do you think Ice/Water Delibird is correct?||
||I mean I can see it, probably based on a penguin, but I'm not sure how that correlates to past/future||
||it seems more and more like paradox forms are gonna work similar to ultra beasts or legendaries, with the prevos mentioned apparently being standalone forms with much better stats||
rich coral
||Yeah that has been more or less stated, including the very late time you can find them in.||
white jungle
||I guess I'm for it? I do think it's kinda weird that some Pokémon lose both their final and prevolution but if Zweilous is correct I do like that it'll get representation||
fickle birch
Deleted the link to the Centro tweet because it contained spoilers. 
You can try posting again and see if there's a "mark as spoiler" option, maybe? 🙂
fickle birch
||How likely do you think Ice/Water Delibird is correct?||
||I hope not, I want it to be Ice/Fairy. 😅||
rich coral
||I hope not, I want it to be Ice/Fairy. 😅||
||I hope it is something else as well, as I currently wish to use Quaxly as my starter.||
gloomy inlet
Lmao what? 🤣
lament glen
Damn, they stole that idea from one piece
rich coral
So, how many heads is that?
vestal aurora
And i tuought that was an obvious part of the design
rich coral
That the evo has the jawline? I did not make that connection.
rich coral
rich coral
strong trail
tauros, somehow
vestal aurora
||Khu said it was the aiai||
rich coral
another set of tapu-esque creatures?
||There is evidence for that.||
viscid adder
What type of mon could use this i have no idea
an archer
viscid adder
||Khu said it was the aiai||
aiai?
rich coral
According to Khu.
icy forge
I wish Khu mistake the Aye-Aye with this animal
But anyway sure AiAi is a interesting option
strong trail
if they made an aiai they really should've given it a pirate costume
lucid delta
What type of mon could use this i have no idea
Hisuian decidueye
rich coral
So, when do you think we will see a follow-up on this one?
smoky bison
https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/1564236773986795521
The colour palettes stick out to me.
||1. Ursaring? 2. Bruxish 3. Alolan Muk 4. Falinks||
So probably new forms of those Pokemon
rich coral
Unlikely, ||reliable sources have told us otherwise.||
smoky bison
|| reliable sources can suck my dick 
||
||I thought i was onto something 
||
Thanks for telling me! Though I would have loved a new bruxish form
rich coral
Sorry, it is possible the colors may still carry meaning.
Bruxish does suffer a little from having nothing attached to it, does it?
smoky bison
Yeah, it was a one-and-done kind of deal like Alomomola
fickle birch
A new trailer has been announced, it's called Grafaiai. 🙂
white jungle
Huh...
This might be a long shot guys
But do y'all think it's related to Smeargle somehow?
An Aiai is a primate (arguably like Smeargle, though Smeargle also kinda looks like a dog) and it does, judging by the shilouette, have a brush-like tail
fickle birch
Smeargle is a dog, it's named after a beagle. 😂
But yeah, I could see it having some kind of rivalry, or being considered a counterpart. 🙂
I can't wait for Grafmeemee, Grafgongon and Grafbaby, personally. 😄
vestal aurora
Can't wait for grafaiai
white jungle
I think loaded dice could be cooler if they either acted as skill link or even added a chance for Skill Link Pokémon to attack more than they normally would
fickle birch
Acting as Skill Link would be OP, but adding a chance for a 6th attack on Skill Link Pokémon would be cool. 🙂
white jungle
E.g. normal Pokémon does rock blast with loaded dice, they have a higher chance to hit all five
Skill Link Pokémon does rock blast with loaded dice, they have a chance to hit more than 5 times
white jungle
Acting as Skill Link would be OP, but adding a chance for a 6th attack on Skill ...
I don't see it being op, only a few Pokémon could benefit enough from it replacing an item anyway, and those Pokémon aren't great anyway
Rhyperior
fickle birch
Guaranteed 5 hits means a guaranteed base 125 BP move.
white jungle
Which many strong Pokémon have already with a better item
Their drawback is something like recoil, or slight inaccuracy
Loaded dice's drawback would be not having an item
fickle birch
With STAB it's a 187.5 BP move though.
white jungle
Eh, even then I don't see it being overpowered per say
Especially with how prevalent knock off is
fickle birch
Who knows if it'll be brought back? They got rid of some big moves in BDSP. 😦
white jungle
Who knows if it'll be brought back? They got rid of some big moves in BDSP. 😦
I want return to
Well,
Return.
When I say this people claim that it was an op move but honestly I don't see what's op about making a good chunk of normal types go from nothing to usable
I mean don't get me wrong having it on Pokémon that got like Galvanise, Pixilate, etc?
Maybe a little much in some instances
(scratch that for Galvanise tbh, Alolan Golem ain't great)
fickle birch
I just miss Signal Beam. 😢
white jungle
But the ones that were particularly op with return were literally megas...
And Megas, if people hadn't noticed
Were in general op
I can't say much because that's why I liked em but generally they had some busted concepts going on
white jungle
I just miss Signal Beam. 😢
Can you explain the appeal of signal beam to me because whenever I see it it seems next to worthless
fickle birch
Can you explain the appeal of signal beam to me because whenever I see it it see...
Bug-type coverage on Espeon is good. 😄
fickle birch
Were in general op
Megas were fine on Pokémon that needed them; Pidgeot, Beedrill, and so on. Megas were not fine on already strong Pokémon like legendaries and pseudo-legendaries. 😅
white jungle
Bug-type coverage on Espeon is good. 😄
I guess? Honestly it doesn't seem strong enough to use even for coverage personally but people used hidden power and I never really got that either
I mean I do get it, dual types and all that
But idk, just always found it boring
fickle birch
75 BP is strong enough for coverage, plus the confusion chance is fun. 😂
Also, Hidden Power was great extra coverage. Hidden Power Ground on my Glaceon demolished all the Fire, Rock and Steel-types that came its way. 🙂
white jungle
Megas were fine on Pokémon that needed them; Pidgeot, Beedrill, and so on. Megas...
Honestly the more I think about it the more I don't really care about the pseudo and legendary megas?
My biggest thing is that those megas took away from Pokémon that needed megas in favour of ones that didn't.
Had we gotten pseudo Legendary and legendary megas alongside more weaker Pokémon and not just instead of them, it would have been fine
rich coral
A new trailer has been announced, it's called Grafaiai. 🙂
Oh, there is an actual announcement somewhere?
white jungle
Because to me it's like who gives a shit if an op Pokémon gets more op. They operate in like one mode, they might as well be in a constant climb to the top of that
fickle birch
white jungle
The only problem is that instead of assuming an op Pokémon will be op, they let Mons like Zacian permeate in tiers they really shouldn't long enough for people to get a bad taste in their mouth
It has great speed with decent defense and a free attack boost like it takes two seconds to go "obviously this was made to be op, and would be boring amongst weaker Mons, let's not do this"
gloomy inlet
Smeargle evo?
lament glen
The only *problem* is that instead of assuming an op Pokémon will be op, they le...
The only good metagame is the IF showdown meta anyway 
forest egret
Smeargle evo?
I think going by riddles and stuff, it's supposed to be a ||new pokemon that's a spray-painting Aye-Aye||
vestal aurora
is that his shadow
rich coral
forest egret
That's pretty cool
viscid adder
god I love when pokemon does homework
vestal aurora
||khu says that grafaiai is gonna be normal/poison||
forest egret
Nice, ||That's an unused combo isn't it||
inland sparrow
yeah
forest egret
Awesome
wide iris
||not a bad one either, normal+anything that resists fighting is welcome||
snow glade
||hopefully it has a good enough movepool to back up it’s typing||
late tendon
Oh yes aDrive thank you for a spoiler right in the thumbnail and name of the vid
rich coral
Shall I spoiler?
late tendon
I'd say ye
It's so hard to go into Pokemon blindly without getting rid of your internet hahaha
Thanks
I blocked aDrive on youtube just cuz he spoiles stuff in thumbnails, he did the same with SwSh
lament glen
It's so hard to go into Pokemon blindly without getting rid of your internet hah...
Why are you in this channel then? 👀
late tendon
Because I want to talk about news!
Like, the official ones
Like these colorful circles they showed recently
lament glen
ah, that kind of spoiler free
late tendon
Ye these are the official info, not leaks
lament glen
I went into sun and moon completely blind, making the ultra beast encounters really really cool cuz I had no idea what they were
That was fun
(And luckily I picked an actually decent game to do it with)
late tendon
I tried to play SwSh as blindly as possible, even tho I couldn't avoid all the leaks
It was very fun and I want the same experience with ScVi, knowing only the official stuff
vestal aurora
Yeah i'm trying to do that as well
lament glen
pokemon already reveals so much stuff that knowing all the official news is already like going into the game pretty much fully spoiled imo
vestal aurora
But after seeing some leaks accidentaly i said fuck it 
late tendon
I kinda miss Riddler Khu's stuff cuz he made leaks fun and suggestive but if I continue watching him I'll probably get lots of other leaks in my feed
late tendon
pokemon already reveals so much stuff that knowing all the official news is alre...
It wasn't like that for me tho, they didn't reveal much mons from SwSh
I remember they revealed ALL mons from SunMoon tho
lament glen
but even stuff like the gimmick of the game and details on the setting counts as huge spoilers to me
late tendon
But I was new to the official Pokemon games at that point so I didn't mind
I don't count such stuff as big spoilers for myself
I mostly care about new mons and human characters
smoky bison
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZTxbxE3WxQ||
I just wanna watch pokemon news reels in peace, why does every Poketuber have to try and sound and talk like the most obnoxious person on the planet
rich coral
Agreed, seriously I am only there for the sum up on the daily leaks.
patent rivet
I remember seeing some videos from that guy a long time ago, he was super annoying and started all his videos with a super obvious and stale Pokémon joke
late tendon
I really dislike aDrive's style of vids, and I don't watch him
wide iris
never watch any pokemon youtubers
fickle birch
never watch any pokemon youtubers
Same, I can't stand any of them. I only really like the cut versions of Nuzlockes that only last half an hour. 🙂
late tendon
I watch competitive youtubers for VGC content
I used to watch the guys who make tops and facts before when I was younger
lament glen
I only watch that one british girl that does videos about doing 1000 wonder trades or something
rich coral
*Imagine if the concept of Gigantamax would have been DLC.*
I mainly posted the vid because of this.
It's just so frustratintg...
meager oasis
never watch any pokemon youtubers
Only ones I watch are false swipe gaming, flygonHG and emvee
Oh that means we can use eviolite girafarig if its girafarig evolution
Wait is it actually a girafarig thing or is it something else
Nvm
wide iris
it says Grafa, not girafa
meager oasis
I know but it was close
lament glen
Girafarig is perfect as it is
wide iris
fool
meager oasis
||So apparently it’s an aye-aye or some other lemur||
wide iris
i hope it looks just as cursed
meager oasis
||It’s also apparently the second stage of the evolution line||
||According to leakers||
||So it’ll have a pre evo and full evo||
||Although I don’t trust any leakers anymore||
||So I’m going to assume everything is false since it doesn’t matter anyway||
wide iris
there are only like 2 leakers who have any weight to anything they say
meager oasis
Khu is one right
wide iris
yeah
🔨 
dull shoal
NOO NOT MOPE
patent rivet
No wonder he’s been inactive
patent rivet
||So apparently it’s an aye-aye or some other lemur||
Isn’t that the protagonist of Super Monkey Ball
wide iris
Yeah, the protagonist of that epic saga
rich coral
||Although I don’t trust any leakers anymore||
What made you stop trusting them?
meager oasis
What made you stop trusting them?
just because most are fake
rich coral
We've had extremely reliable sources this cycle.
fickle birch
Isn’t that the protagonist of Super Monkey Ball
rich coral
I will steal this.
wide iris
||please create a pokemon hat economy it would be so funny||
rich coral
||Please stop hiding features in DLC it would be so funny.||
wide iris
||you already said that||
patent rivet
https://tenor.com/view/genuine-anger-anger-angry-tf2-team-fortress2-gif-20476142
That top Twitter reply has the same idea as you
Anyways, this sucks
icy forge
I still waiting the DLC of Legends Arceus that Khu said
rich coral
Did he?
icy forge
If I remember correctly y he said something like: Wait to pay for play the Best Legend Arceus
wide iris
i dunno who this guy is
wide iris
the poster of the twete
vestal aurora
Dunno if it's true but it sure would be cool if it was
white jungle
If this thing is a legendary with sketch it'll be busted af
icy forge
forest egret
Very cool, I like his big green eyes
icy forge
Yes. Is cool see different style in a generation and except Cetitan all Pokémon are little cute creatures
forest egret
Indeed. I hope we get the 2d art soon but for now this is pretty awesome
solar tiger
The last animal id expect in a spanish pokemon region was an aye aye, but i dig it
forest egret
Oh hell yeah, I love him
And he's wearing a hoodie that's really cool
I think this dude's my new fav of the reveals so far
loud flume
Thats sick
late tendon
I love ittttt
loud flume
Honestly looks like early game rodent to me so id imagine it can
forest egret
I bet this dude's shiny will be something crazy
loud flume
Im hyped for gen 9
late tendon
Aye aye isn't a rodent but we also have Zigzagoon as route 1 normal type so idk
I'd say that route 1 normal type is Lechonk
And Grafaiai will be possible to encounter only at night
And I assume it lives only in some painted forest area
forest egret
Yeah that's what I'm thinking too
forest egret
Lechonk being the route 1 thing is plausible. We've gotten like 5 that aren't rodents anyway
quiet frost
what is this
Mmmmm monke( or primate )
forest egret
honorary monke
lament glen
I like the eyes
forest egret
forest egret
Mhm, but lemurs can sit at the dinner table with their monke friends
olive forge
Yeah fair
forest egret
Would be nice wouldn't it. I suppose Smeargle's there for paint dudes though
supple fern
I wonder if there would be a rivalry between them like Zangoose and Seviper
vestal aurora
Would be really cool
forest egret
Grafaiais vandalize Smeargle paintings
forest egret
Here's his site page
https://scarletviolet.pokemon.com/en-us/pokemon/grafaiai/
fickle birch
Very cool, I like his big green eyes
I really don't like it. 😅
forest egret
Aw that's a shame, he's my fav so far
fickle birch
Mostly because of the colours being all over the place, even excluding the paint; white, black, grey, purple, green, pink and the sandy colour. 😅
Too much for an unevolved Pokémon. I also don't like that its eyes look like Spider-Man's. 😂
vestal aurora
It looks like spider-gwen but that's one of the best parts
marsh current
i hope grafaraiai will have different colors of paint on its hands, maybe corresponding to a berry its holding or something like that
forest egret
I like the colours, I suppose it's got a nice contrast to the other paint bro, Smeargle. He's more refined and so has a muted colour palette while Grafaiai's a wild lemur that sprays paint everywhere, so its more exciting palette works for me
marsh current
or atleast his shiny form having different paint colors
forest egret
i hope grafaraiai will have different colors of paint on its hands, maybe corres...
I'm hoping it has something like this too
Its abilities don't seem to imply anything like that though
marsh current
if its gonna have a pre evolution then it could be something like with milcery
forest egret
Yeah, it could also just have colour variants that depend on where you caught it or something, that'd be fun
marsh current
ooo, what if it would depend on the pokemon that is following you or the first pokemon in your party?
forest egret
Hmm, what would be the logic for that?
fickle birch
I like the colours, I suppose it's got a nice contrast to the other paint bro, S...
I'd like it more if they did what Smeargle fusions here do and have the paint more splattered than just on its fingers, but things like the purple eye marking are just unnecessary. 😅
forest egret
I think it's supposed to match how Aye-Ayes and lemurs in general have dark circles around their eyes
patent rivet
His long finger is weird
forest egret
That'd also be an Aye-Aye thing
They have their weird creepy finger that they dig into trees to get bugs out
fickle birch
I think it's supposed to match how Aye-Ayes and lemurs in general have dark circ...
It could just be black though. 😂
Purple is weird; I know it's for a Poison-type marker, just make the greys more purple instead then. 😉
marsh current
Hmm, what would be the logic for that?
in the video it said that it uses the prey pokemon's preferred berry to make the patterns and lure them
forest egret
I think it wouldn't work with the black hoodie that way
forest egret
in the video it said that it uses the prey pokemon's preferred berry to make the...
Ah I see
marsh current
there would need to be some sort of way to check what are a pokemons favourite berries tho
forest egret
I will say his arms don't look so good in the 3d model they're using in-game
The sugimori art and the teaser thingy looked fine though
vestal aurora
Yeah they look weird
But it's a cool concept
I like this guy a lot
Ngl favourtie so far
forest egret
Same
forest egret
Yeah. It's almost always the case at this point isn't it
wide iris
gen 8's official art wasn't very good
at least for the final starters
because half the mons in that gen only looked good in motion
viscid adder
what is this
ooooh it looks so cool!
the eyes give me venom vibes
inland sparrow
(im not a fan)
your not, but this going on my team
lament glen
I like its design more than the gen 8 posion/electric guy at least
Tho the eyes on the artwork look way better than on the 3d model
fickle birch
If I could give it a soft redesign, I'd probably go with something like one of these two. 😅
wide iris
Do you understand why the eyes are like that
fickle birch
I know what an aye-aye is, I also know that they seemingly have pupils. 😅
wide iris
That's not why
fickle birch
Then why is it?
wide iris
It's meant to invoke the imagery combination of prosimian eyes reflecting light and colorful reflective eyewear, maybe as a nod to JSR and that aesthetic
fickle birch
Eh, that doesn't do it for me. The same way Enamorus' inspirations might be interesting, but it's still a bad design. 😅
wide iris
It isn't like enamorous at all
forest egret
I'm not too big on the changes, I like how he looks as-is
solar tiger
unlike enamorous, lots of people seem to be heads over heels for grafaiai's design
forest egret
Twitter loves him
wide iris
Just because it doesn't fit your opinion doesn't mean it's objectively bad
fickle birch
I don't dislike its design, I just think there are some odd design choices. It's grown on me a lot, to be honest. 😄
forest egret
That's ok, you're still free to dislike it and such
fickle birch
But the lack of pupils and weird colours hold it back, in my eyes. 😅
A Poison/Normal type is really cool. 😄
solar tiger
isn't it gettin an evolution?
wide iris
I think all it needs is to emote more in game like it does in the art, that's what's making its face look blank
forest egret
||It's getting a prevo||
fickle birch
isn't it gettin an evolution?
||I've heard two. 😅||
solar tiger
man this is worse than that lol
fickle birch
Agreed. 😅
solar tiger
i hope it gets an evo
forest egret
solar tiger
oh lmao, it's centro
fickle birch
Centro's been pretty reliable this time around, haven't they? 😮
solar tiger
watch grafaiai be said pre-evo
wide iris
||i can kinda see it, how prosimians range from looking like rodents to monkeys||
solar tiger
Centro's been pretty reliable this time around, haven't they? 😮
mostly because theyve been stealing a lot from kaka
fickle birch
Very true. 😂
solar tiger
centro has no actual leakers, they just take what they find on the internet
forest egret
Yeah
solar tiger
sometimes they get lucky when a fake leak turns out real, now they just hit the jackpot because kaka has no chill when it comes to leaks
wide iris
I think the reason I'm so up about it is because I really don't agree with trying to "fix" a design by removing their unique features
fickle birch
Centro is less of a leaker and more of a leak wrangler, even if many of those leaks aren't legit. 😂
fickle birch
I think the reason I'm so up about it is because I really don't agree with tryin...
A lack of pupils isn't unique, though. 😅
wide iris
Don't be a pedant
forest egret
Yeah, right now for this gen atleast it seems he's been reliable. I also follow Khu and stuff which is... not fun
solar tiger
i thought you said peasant for a second there lmao
fickle birch
That's not pedantry. The paint on the fingers is Grafaiai's main shtick (and even that's derivative of Smeargle). 😂
wide iris
It doesn't have to be a main feature to be one that makes it more unique
Like, obstagoon's legs
I saw people trying to fix them by making them dumb animal legs, but them making his shape is a big part of what makes his design different from others
fickle birch
This is the point I was making about Enamorus; it being stick thin makes it stand out from the Kami Trio and is because it's based on the Ugajin, but I think it was a flawed implementation. 😅
fickle birch
I saw people trying to fix them by making them dumb animal legs, but them making...
I'd have made it a quadruped because Obstagoon itself is furry bait.
wide iris
And to keep bringing it back to enamorous is fallacious
fickle birch
And to keep bringing it back to enamorous is fallacious
It's not though, it's a comparable situation. 😅
forest egret
I like Obstagoon
solar tiger
obstagoon was the least furry bait of the gen 8 furry bait
wide iris
It's comparable but not proof of anything
solar tiger
hell even sobble's final evo got more nsfw
fickle birch
I like Obstagoon
I really like Obstagoon, but it's Gene Simmons' fursona. 😂
forest egret
That's true but I'm fine with that
fickle birch
It's comparable but not proof of anything
Then we're in agreeance. I'm not trying to prove anything. 😅
fickle birch
That's true but I'm fine with that
Me too. I just dislike the philosophy that most fully evolved forms need to be bipedal. 😢
forest egret
That's fair. I think it works for Obstagoon but in general I agree that more quadreped last evos would be nice
wide iris
Then we're in agreeance. I'm not trying to prove anything. 😅
Then don't try to fix designs if you have nothing to say
fickle birch
Then don't try to fix designs if you have nothing to say
Calm down, remember Rule 1. 😅
I just find if fun to tinker with the designs, like when I did beignet Fidough. 🙂
solar tiger
Remember rule 4
forest egret
Something about people using Fidough's breath to cook things is so disgusting but kinda funny
fickle birch
Remember rule 4
What? 😅
forest egret
They make things with his weird yeast infection dog breath
fickle birch
Something about people using Fidough's breath to cook things is so disgusting bu...
I love it, honestly. Such a weird doughball, I love it. ❤️
fickle birch
Gotta stay on topic
We were talking about a Scarlet and Violet Pokémon, don't mini-mod like that.
forest egret
The topic's pretty much been on SV the whole time, it's not as if the mere mentions of Obstagoon and Enamorous derailed that or anything. Reguardless, I also like Fidough too, and I welcome more foodmons
fickle birch
Fairy has effectively become the food type now; Swirlix, Alcremie, now Fidough, I wonder if they'll introduce more food-based Pokémon in SV. 🙂
I do wish Fidough was Fairy/Normal though, I think it'd stand out more then, although there are a lot of secondary Normal-types this generation. I'd just remove Smolive's, probably. 😂
Because right now, Fidough is our second food-based, mono-Fairy dog.
Hopefully it becomes Fairy/Fire, a type I think hasn't been done yet. 😄
forest egret
That's true. Atleast he looks different
fickle birch
Yeah, if it was pink then that'd be a bigger problem. 😅
forest egret
Ye I was gonna say they could've very easily just made him pink but I'm glad he is just bread coloured
fickle birch
I hope we get a Fairy/Fire dog based on a Spanish type of bread, that'd be fun. 😄
forest egret
The monotype atleast keeps it open to the possibility it gains something later on
Man these people are fast
https://twitter.com/henryvargasart/status/1565366415137607687?t=okKNGLgPUSQiBg8aLBXKkg&s=19
fickle birch
The monotype atleast keeps it open to the possibility it gains something later o...
That's true, I'm rooting for Fire or maybe Rock if it becomes burnt bread. 😂
Imagine if it became a new Eevee with different types of bred; Fairy/Ice with powered sugar snow beignets, Fairy / Fire pizza, Fairy / Rock burnt bread, Fairy / Grass pumpkin bread, Fairy / Dragon... bread dragon. 😉
A man can dream, a man can dream. 😢
vestal aurora
I hope we get a Fairy/Fire dog based on a Spanish type of bread, that'd be fun. ...
My hope is that fidough stays pure fairy and becomes a bola de berlim cocker spaniel
But a fairy/fire needs to come soon
fickle birch
My hope is that fidough stays pure fairy and becomes a bola de berlim cocker spa...
I love that idea, not far off a beignet. 🙂
Those look incredible, I want one. ❤️
vestal aurora
True
They're really good
And you can get them on beaches pretty much around the country
And they're cheap
fickle birch
You're making my mouth water. 😂
forest egret
I could also see Fidough's evo being cooked so the dough of its body rises and it becomes chow-chow shaped
vestal aurora
That could also be awesome
fickle birch
I'd like that a lot too. ❤️
late tendon
we'll see, we'll see
I was so hyped for Yamper's evo when it was just revealed
I'm not a big fan of Boltund tho...
I find it's face and paws a bit awkward
the rest looks good, especially the tail when it runs/attacks, but face and paws.......... meh
like, why it stands on the whole palm instead of just tips of the fingers like all the dogs do?
it looks sooooo weird
but maybe it's just me idk
fickle birch
I agree with you, there's these subtle things but they stack up. 😦
smoky bison
Pokemon company not bothering to work on the details - more news at 11
quiet frost
I hate it when my fictional monster isn't biologically accurate to the real life counterpart
late tendon
it's not about realism, it's about design
quiet frost
I don't really like boltund that much but tbh I don't really think yamper is much better
On the other hand Smoliv is a pokemon we should all strive to be
late tendon
I usually at least loyal to all the design and I like a huge majority of them, even Boltund with it's weird legs haha
cloud wedge
Boltund's ears are also always flat and backwards so it looks constantly nervous lmao
late tendon
I literally have only one mon which design I truly dislike
so I'm really curious to see what Fidough evolves into!
and Grafaiai if it evolves (I hope it does)
cloud wedge
Theres a ton from ScarVio im ver excited about ||i keep reading leaks and everything sounds fun af||
late tendon
and Lechonk cuz I heard some leaks about it from Khu
I stopped reading leaks but Lechonk is the one I've heard
it was told that it has ||a kinda feminine evo but with "ugly" vibes, kinda like how Purugly looks or something like that||
but I also remember something about it ||having split evos, feminine and not feminine,|| but I might misremember something
cloud wedge
Nop ur right!!
quiet frost
I hope smolive is like bounsweet and has a cool evo
I would develop trust issues if smolive evolved into mid
fickle birch
Grass/Normal is definitely an interesting typing for a Pokémon like Smoliv, I wonder if it'll keep the Normal or it'll change? 😮
It seems like we're getting a lot of Normal-types so far. 😅
late tendon
I wonder if it'll be related to olive oil somehow
maybe oil is the reason it's part normal idk
can you even associate oil with normal type?
quiet frost
Idk maybe it's like meant to be common
Like most the early bird pokémon
Thats how they classify normal types sometimes
late tendon
perhaps
gloomy inlet
hmm probably ||grafaiai|| is an early rodent of paldea. Like zigzagoon, sentret, koratta, etc
fickle birch
I wonder if it'll be related to olive oil somehow
This could be true, with 'fat' being a common Normal-type trait, maybe oil is this in a less literal context. 😅
meager oasis
hmm probably ||grafaiai|| is an early rodent of paldea. Like zigzagoon, sentret,...
i dont think so, grafaiais design isnt bland like those
and plus it had its own little documentary video like hisuian zorua
and since we know it lives in a specific place thats irl it prob wont be scattered all over the region either
late tendon
hmm probably ||grafaiai|| is an early rodent of paldea. Like zigzagoon, sentret,...
Lechonk looks much more early-rodent-ish
it's easy to assume that Grafaiai 1) is a night only encounter, and 2) lives in the specific area(s) with painter trees only
the 2nd point is arguable but the 1st one cancels it's early-rodent-ness as it should always appear at any time
I don't think we have a time specific early rodent anywhere
fickle birch
the 2nd point is arguable but the 1st one cancels it's early-rodent-ness as it s...
Yungoos/Alolan Rattata. 😅
late tendon
well, Alola has two of those 
but thanks
I feel like Alola is more of a exception but who knows
I still think there's a specific painted trees area or something
white jungle
Wonder if this Paldean photographer will become a recurring and possibly named character with a design and shit or if it's a one-off
I wouldn't mind more trailers for Pokémon in this style
late tendon
hm
Hisuian researcher that discovered Zorua isn't a character
but maybe cuz he probably died
late tendon
I wouldn't mind more trailers for Pokémon in this style
I agree, I love such Pokemon reveals
like Sirfetch'd on the website, Hisuian Zorua in two trailers
quiet frost
How many people actually watched the whole stream
I didn't even know it was happening until after it got revealed
late tendon
some youtube streamers did for a content
especially shiny hunters
but I doubt someone watched all 24 hours of this
I mean, it sounds cool in concept but it's veeery boring when it actually comes to this
fickle birch
How many people actually watched the whole stream
I watched 3 hours of it. 
quiet frost
I probably would've checked in on it throughout the day and check the chat or something
That way I'd know if I missed something
fickle birch
Yeah that's basically what I did, I wasn't devoting full attention to it. 😂
quiet frost
This is gonna be the first game in a while where I don't spoil the dex for myself before I get the game
Only after I'll see
Cuz there's most likely gonna be new pokemon that are version exclusives
late tendon
I enjoyed playing SwSh with as less unofficial leaks as possible so I'll try to do the same for ScVi
reacting for a mon inside of an actual game beats reacting to these same mons in leaks big time
like, "LOOK WHAT THING I JUST FOUND HAHA" over "oh so this leak was true after all huh"
fickle birch
reacting for a mon inside of an actual game beats reacting to these same mons in...
My friend was playing SwSh, and I already knew about (and sprited) Applin. His genuine response was, and I quote, "That's just a fucking apple". 😂
quiet frost
Now I've developed this weird Stockholm syndrome with inteleon where now i like it
fickle birch
You poor, sweet child. 😦
quiet frost
I kept convincing myself it was Greninjas brother
Because froakie was my first starter
late tendon
My friend was playing SwSh, and I already knew about (and sprited) Applin. His g...
my funniest reaction was to galarian Meowth cuz I basically saw a Meowth WITH A FUKIN BEARD AND POINTY TEETH hahaha
Perrserker went into the hall of fame with me
quiet frost
It's so weird that meowth got both an alolan form, a galarian form, 1 form for it's evo and a new evo entirely and a gigantamax
Meowth got a lot
fickle birch
I'm kind of miffed that it's not getting a Paldean form; either it should get every regional, or just one. 😦
meager oasis
because funny team rocket meowth
late tendon
I'd like this trend to continue just cuz it's funny
Meowths for each region because cat breeds
fickle birch
Did Team Rocket interact with a Galarian Meowth? I remember the Alolan one. 😄
late tendon
and other cat Pokemon too
fickle birch
Meowths for each region because cat breeds
Although new cat Pokémon is also cool.
meager oasis
i will sell my soul for australian pokemon region
fickle birch
I still mourn the loss of these two. 😢
late tendon
play the whole game upside down and find a regional Inkay that looks completely normal
meager oasis
I still mourn the loss of these two. 😢
emo phase of skitty and delcatty
late tendon
also if you die to a spider pokemon you die in real life
meager oasis
worth it
quiet frost
Clefairy > Jigglypuff
Clefairy should've been the mascot
Clefairy should rule the world
Clefairy gives the world meaning
gloomy inlet
Lechonk looks much more early-rodent-ish
oops yeah, 😅
late tendon
Cleffa line is my gf's fav
meager oasis
igglybuff line are my favourite fairy types
late tendon
my fav fairy is maaaybe Mawile but it's probably a tie between Mawile and Clefairy
I actually have a list of my favs for each gen
fickle birch
Specifically Shiny Whimsicott? 😮
quiet frost
Why mawile there twice
late tendon
shiny ones are usually something I used in games
lament glen
My favorite fairy type is Floette
late tendon
Why mawile there twice
because of the reason I just explained 
quiet frost
Aw man did I just do a stupidity
I mean then again you put spritzie as your favourite gen 6 fairy when I mean sylveon is right there
late tendon
for me personally sylveon is just a doggo with a bunch of bow ties
late tendon
while spritzee is a funni birb that looks super cute and smells really nice 
and it's one of my trainer OC's main pokemon
meager oasis
besides the igglybuff line theres not actually another fairy type i like a lot
quiet frost
while spritzee is a funni birb that looks super cute and smells really nice <:ge...
That turns into aromatisse
lament glen
while spritzee is a funni birb that looks super cute and smells really nice <:ge...
Spritzee is indeed cool, but it evolves into one of the worst mons ever made imo 
quiet frost
aromatisse is sexy
late tendon
besides sexy jokes, aromatisse is something I'd really want to pet
it's round and fluffy
and still smells really nice
and is a birb
fickle birch
I still wish we got a Fairy/Poison evolution of Spritzee based on a plague doctor. 😦
late tendon
so all it's fluff is probably feathers which is a really cool type of fluffiness
quiet frost
They thought it was a good idea to mix a plague doctor with a flamingo dancer and perfume
Flamenco dancer I mean
late tendon
plague doctors are heavily related to smells tho
late tendon
Flamenco dancer I mean
no no you're right, flamingo dancer 
quiet frost
You know now I want a flamingo pokemon
late tendon
me too
and dolphin
and a bunch of other weird animals
I'm glad they added an aye-aye pokemon 
quiet frost
I want more cat mons that aren't starters
late tendon
don't we only have two starter cats?
meager oasis
i want a kangaroo pokemon thats actually a kangaroo
late tendon
not counting Espeon in a side game
meager oasis
kangaskhan is lame
fickle birch
Two in three generations, that's odd. 😅
late tendon
i want a kangaroo pokemon thats actually a kangaroo
Breloom is a kangaroo
but ye, an actual kangaroo would be nice
quiet frost
don't we only have two starter cats?
Yeah but both are from recent gens
late tendon
fair
fickle birch
All three of this generation's starters are repeats; we've had a cat, crocodile and specifically Water-type bird before, but the gaps are 2, 7 and 5 generations respectively. 😅
quiet frost
Then again there's like a million dog pokemon
late tendon
million cats and million dogs, just like in real life 
having a cat and a dog for each gen is all right tho, it's kinda each gen gimmick of sorts
like pika clones
fickle birch
Did Gen VIII have a cat (excluding Meowth)? 😮
quiet frost
No I don't recall
quiet frost
Actually can sneasler be counted as like feline I mean it's kinda catlike
fickle birch
Actually can sneasler be counted as like feline I mean it's kinda catlike
Big Sneasel. 😂
That's literally it's Japanese name. 😛
quiet frost
Idc what anyone says Sneasler > Weavile
late tendon
come on someone tell me that sneasel is actually a weasel and thinking that it's partly a cat is totally 100% wrong
I like both Sneasler and Weavile
fickle birch
Idc what anyone says Sneasler > Weavile
Oh I could not disagree more.
quiet frost
Weavile just looks like a snealer with a goofy hat I'm sorry
I like it but sneasler is cooler
fickle birch
Sneasler's a lazy example of an evolution to me because it's just Sneasel, but big, to the point where even its name says that. Overqwil has a similar issue but its name is so good that I let it off. 😂
late tendon
I love different opinions
fickle birch
Weavile is literally sneasler but with more feathers
But it's so cool. 😂
late tendon
Blaq is weak to cool designs
quiet frost
Ok sneasler is neither a cat or a weasel it is a bird
late tendon
...which you'd assume about a person with Black Rayquaza as a nickname
(which is cool)
fickle birch
...which you'd assume about a person with Black Rayquaza as a nickname <:huehue:...
Blaziken / Rayquaza. 😛
late tendon
(Blaq is also cool)
fickle birch
Both of whom are cool. 😉
late tendon
Blaziken isn't my fav but I understand why people like it
quiet frost
Good ol cock
fickle birch
A lot of new evolutions don't do it for me; Cursola, Kleavor and to an extent Ursaluna are fantastic, but Mr Rime is just Mr Mime, Sirfetch'd is a white Farfetch'd (compared to how the beta evolution was better), Wyrdeer is Stantler with a beard, and Sneasler is quite literally big Sneasel. 😂
late tendon
Sneasler's inspirations are amazing
quiet frost
And I like how in arceus she carries you in a little bag and you get to control her
late tendon
I love your eyes peeking from the bag
like, this is hilarious
I wonder to see what Wooper evolves into
quiet frost
My beloved
late tendon
perhaps a more axolotl-like thingie
quiet frost
Bad ending: Paldean Quagsire
late tendon
if it's just a recolor of Quagsire then eh
I like Quagsire so I won't be amazed but I also won't feel bad
it's a bit forgetable for me ngl
quiet frost
I kinda just want new evolutions that aren't just from regional forms
Like gen 2 and 4
late tendon
I don't mind either ways
quiet frost
Because ultimately it limits the accessibility of the pokémon
Like I can't use sneasler unless I transfer it
And most the other evos we most likely wont be able to just get in the newer games
Without HOME they're basically stuck in their gens
late tendon
they can do literally anything so we'll see
quiet frost
I just wanna use sneasler in a regular playthough the one I have is like level 100
late tendon
I never expected alolan forms to grow into regional forms cuz I thought it's a Galapagos Islands easter egg that will be specific to Alola
and they'll come up with something else for future gens
and they did both
(according to leaks)
quiet frost
I dont mind I just worry eventually it'll lose its spectacle
late tendon
left regional forms and ||created paradox forms or something||
quiet frost
There's like a 3 region gap between every gen that's named after colours I just realised
Gen 1 - gen 5 - gen 9
fickle birch
My beloved
I did the Showdown sprite for Sneasler, fun fact. 😄
inland sparrow
All three of this generation's starters are repeats; we've had a cat, crocodile ...
same generations the hisuian starters are from 🤔
quiet frost
Ooooooo cool
fickle birch
This is it after it got some QC edits. Katten did the backsprite. 🙂
quiet frost
That's nice
fickle birch
From Legends I also did Sneasel, Kleavor, the Voltorb line and Typhlosion. 😄
Sneasel was so easy, it was just a recolour.
quiet frost
left regional forms and ||created paradox forms or something||
As long as they don't need any special forms I don't care
fickle birch
left regional forms and ||created paradox forms or something||
||I'm so annoyed that Wooper is our only regional, and that Paradox Forms that boost stats are given to unevolved Pokémon. Just use their evolved forms. Not hard. 😂||
fickle birch
any new leaks for me is a no-no
Oh it's not strictly new, it's stuff we've known about for a while. 🙂
late tendon
officially or from leaks?
lament glen
||I'm so annoyed that Wooper is our only regional, and that Paradox Forms that b...
||How do you know that wooper is the only regional form tho?
And not sure if I understand correctly, but making unevolved mons stronger for competitive would be fun at least, wouldn't it?||
unreal cairn
Imagine the fusions with this mon even though it’ll never be in this game.
i mean, smeargle fusions are already pretty good
inland sparrow
officially or from leaks?
leaks
late tendon
then I probably don't wanna know it
fickle birch
||How do you know that wooper is the only regional form tho?
And not sure if I ...
||The Pokédex leaks. 😅||
fickle birch
i mean, smeargle fusions are already pretty good
They're fun to make, too! 😄
lament glen
||Has the entire dex leaked already? That was fast||
unreal cairn
They're fun to make, too! 😄
also corsola fusions
and stantler fusions
and unown fusions
and quilfish fusions
...
ok why is every single stage johto mon (not including regionals and legends) have good sprites?
oh yeah girafarig and dunsparce and shuckle and heracross and skarmory and delibird and miltank
ok you guys get it
inland sparrow
||The Pokédex leaks. 😅||
||the website i found about the dex leaks actually says that there are four, wooper and three different tauros||
fickle birch
||the website i found about the dex leaks actually says that there are four, woo...
||Oh yeah, I forgot about the Tauros. Still, going from like 17ish per game to 2 (counting Tauros once) is odd, but obviously explained by Paradox Pokémon. 😅||
fickle birch
||Has the entire dex leaked already? That was fast||
||Not entirely in terms of designs and such, but we know what we're getting in lines and such. Unless some of those are unexpectedly regionals, it's just Wooper, its evolution and Tauros x3, which I forgot about. 😅||
lament glen
||Damn. Okay, all I wanna know is how many evo stages the olive has||
inland sparrow
||Damn. Okay, all I wanna know is how many evo stages the olive has||
||looks like Smolive is three stage||
lament glen
||still have no idea what paradox forms are btw
The only news I'm getting about this are when I read this channel once or twice per day and so far the puzzle pieces have not added up ||
inland sparrow
||future/past forms||
lament glen
||But like in what sense? Like megas? Or like a permanent thing||
fickle birch
||With Donphan getting both, and I think also maybe Volcarona. 😃||
fickle birch
||But like in what sense? Like megas? Or like a permanent thing||
||I think regionals with a power boost. 😃||
lament glen
||So they just go the mewoth route with everything||
fickle birch
||but there's two of them||
fickle birch
||So they just go the mewoth route with everything||
||Not everything, no. Most are one or the other. 😅||
lament glen
||Sounds like a fun idea but also like something they will definetly not allow to transfer into future gens lol||
snow glade
||inb4 pikacu gets 4 regionals somehow||
quiet frost
The whole chat lookin like a barcode right now
I wanna click on something but ifearill just get jumpscared by a leak
fickle birch
If you do, you will get jumpscared by a leak. Be careful. 😦
snow glade
I wanna click on something but ifearill just get jumpscared by a leak
Better not let your power get to 0% then…
south trellis
monkey!
smoky bison
"Just a kid's game man, don't force your high standards on this multi billion franchise"
quiet frost
You know this may be an unpopular opinion but I think gen 4 is mid
It's carried by platinum
Ok I'm gonna leave now
smoky bison
I recently tried playing Diamond/Pearl and I was able to last 30 minutes, then I had to turn it off
It's so painfully slow
rich coral
You know this may be an unpopular opinion but I think gen 4 is mid
I do get why you'd say that, but in comparison to what would it be mid?
smoky bison
Compared to what people remember the gen being
rich coral
Fair.
dull shoal
I grew used to BW and HGSS, and then tried Diamond/Pearl, and yeah it just feels so tedious sometimes
white jungle
I mean, the third installments are typically the most memorable/enjoyable versions
Which is what makes me so sad we never got Pokémon Z
Can you imagine if Zygarde 100% was an actual good plot in its own game in its own region?
rich coral
But no no every game since needed to be rushed to oblivion.
fickle birch
Yeah, I noticed that too. I quite like it though, it feels like they've been neglected recently. 😅
white jungle
Haven't got too much of an opinion on it I suppose, I like the Pokémon we've seen so it obviously hasn't been a negative impact on them individually
My only concern would be that this gen feels as though it might be even more normal-heavy at the beginning than normal?
But hopefully the open world fixes that issue
fickle birch
I mean, Smolive doesn't feel like it should be a Normal-type, that particularly seems arbitrary. 😮
fickle birch
My only concern would be that this gen feels as though it might be even more nor...
I don't think Grafaiai will be available at the beginning. 😅
white jungle
I mean, Smolive doesn't feel like it should be a Normal-type, that particularly ...
Wasn't there reports that it'll have ||a branching evolution? In that case it might evolve into two Pokémon with two different types replacing normal||
fickle birch
Wasn't there reports that it'll have ||a branching evolution? In that case it mi...
||Oh I'm not sure, I hope one stays Normal though, Grass/Normal is an uncommon typing. 😃||
white jungle
So long as it makes use of the normal typing I don't mind what it's got going on
Once again, sorely missing Return
Maybe it'll return lmao
Just in time for all these basic bitches
rich coral
Wasn't there reports that it'll have ||a branching evolution? In that case it mi...
You may be thinking of ||Lechonk||.
fickle birch
You may be thinking of ||Lechonk||.
||I haven't hear that either. 😅||
forest egret
||I haven't heard anything about branching evos, but I remember hearing that its evo will have big gender differences for their appearance||
||my guess is the male will just be meaner looking and have bigger tusks or something, like real boar||
rich coral
||We were given hints in regards to that as well.||
white jungle
||Lequeen and Leking||
limpid depot
That's what happens when most of the discussion is leaks heh
white jungle
||My only issue with this Bisharp Evo is it's gonna waste the potential of the whole chess motif I just know it||
||If we're very lucky, it'll evolve into a king or queen based Pokémon depending on gender. Less lucky? One Pokémon, but with a king or queen design change based on gender. Bad ending? Just a king based evolution.||
||In an ideal world, Pawniard would be an Eevee esque Pokémon that branches into all the different pieces, but here we are||
lament glen
||Has to be Queen tho. King wouldnt really make sense||
white jungle
||Or at least regional pawniards evolving into different pieces||
forest egret
||The queen is the gigachad piece||
white jungle
||Has to be Queen tho. King wouldnt really make sense||
||More masculine design though. If they were gonna disrespect the chess motif by having it just evolve into another one then abandoning it forever, I doubt they'd care enough to do queen over king, but who knows?||
smoky bison
||King as the tanky evolution path with the queen being the fast, hard hitting evo||
oops
forest egret
Spoiled forever
white jungle
||we could have had some really fun evolution methods too||
||like if you get a Pawniard to the end of victory road, you get the queen Evo||
||or if all the other Pokémon faint on the team, and your Pawniard wins, it evolves into the king Evo||
smoky bison
I wouldnt mind having eevee 2.0
forest egret
I wouldn't mind a dragon eeveelution
Come on gamefreak finish the theme you got going on
white jungle
Wyrmeon
Ability shed skin
Get that Scrafty style shed skin + dragon dance on an actual dragon
Alternatively: Hordeon
Ability: treasure pile
It gains steel resistances
Making all dragon weaknesses neutral
late tendon
I remember coming out with a weather-based dragon eeveelution because chinese dragons are about weathers, winds and stuff
It's ability would turn normal-type moves to match the current weather type, kinda like Weather Ball, without giving it a STAB to not make it too OP
And it'd know all the weather summoning moves ofc
So Sandstorm for a rock type Hyper Voice les go
white jungle
I like the idea of a weather based dragon eeveelution but I'd take it in the direction of having drizzle (or a buffed variant) with hurricane and thunder
white jungle
I think having its actual attacks rely on weather would make it a weak weather team Mon because opposing weather setters can make it so it doesn't even get a good hit in
late tendon
I'm not a balancer, I'm a concepter
So what if it's weak
Flareon is weak but it's still cool
It's only reliable with toxic orb and still doesn't do that much compared to stronger mons
white jungle
Guts really could be changed to like
At least reduce damage done by effects
Or hell, reduce effects full stop. E.g. paralysis would have less of a chance of actually activating.
Well, that or not cutting the Pokémon's speed when paralysed but keeping the chance to not move the same
I don't think any guts Mons are particularly busted
cloud mango
Bro.... What's that splash on the left
rich coral
I have no idea, this is from a McDonalds.
white jungle
Oh so definitely semen
I wasn't convinced until you said McDonalds
But more importantly why does the material look as if it's aged a decade
rich coral
We just established it is a McDnoalds.
gloomy inlet
uh I suddenly forgot what semen is in English 🤣🤣🤣 then oops 🤭
patent rivet
uh I suddenly forgot what semen is in English 🤣🤣🤣 then oops 🤭
It's nsfw
gloomy inlet
hmm ye 
in my languge it's cement
patent rivet
No, cement is a different thing
patent rivet
I think it's still nsfw to talk about male reproductive fluid or whatever
patent rivet
"It's nsfw to talk about semen"
"OK, but it's McDonalds, so somehow that makes it not nsfw"
inland sparrow
Paintini
vestal aurora
I would do something similar to that, but kept the mouth similar to grafaiai and kept a hair tuft
white jungle
I wonder if it'll have a berry-based ability
meager oasis
https://youtu.be/3_SuFY9zlwU
Is it doing the middle finger
white jungle
I'd like to see it's whole Paint Based On Diet thing actually implemented
vestal aurora
Is it doing the middle finger
Yes, cause he a bad boy
white jungle
Smeargle says: property should be respected, anything that isn't on a canvas is not art
Grafaiai says: fuck your blank concrete walls
inland sparrow
I'd like to see it's whole Paint Based On Diet thing actually implemented
lets atleast have it come in different colors like the florges line
viscid adder
Oh that makes me wonder if it’ll learn sketch lol
Oh man that would change everything
Or that whatever berry it eats gives a special move certain properties
spare roost
Special amination to Belch,
icy forge
vestal aurora
let'ss goooooo
tomorrow will be a good day
new hsmtmts episode i find my working schedule and then this
vestal aurora
high school musical the musical the series
gloomy inlet
High Schedule Mother Turn Menacingly To School?
viscid adder
Ooooooooh new mon..
vestal aurora
i hope we get to see some evos ngl
idle kiln
Same. I like all the first forms of the pokemon the have shown but I wanna see evos.
fickle birch
Yeah, evolutions give a lot away about the direction the generation's designs are going in. I specifically hope we get starter evolutions. 🙂
vestal aurora
i don't think we'll have starter evolutions just yet
but yeah i really wanna see those
fickle birch
Normally we get them in September. SwSh was the exception. 😅
Not the final forms, obviously. 😂
forest egret
It'll be a 10 minute video where they show off Lechonk's evo at different angles
fickle birch
And there's a reason they hid the SwSh ones.
fickle birch
wait we're already in september <:stare:785140367833432084>
A quarter of the way through it. Scary.
vestal aurora
that means that we're so close to the release of the game