#pokemon-winds-waves
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They don't make new ones?
I personally haven't seen any reused ones
Not all of them give me info but some do
||They're apparently bringing the move relearning thing from arceus back. I think this is good, I hate having to get rid of a cool move and then go to some random town if I want it back||
I wish that version exclusives would stop being a thing
There's often nothing done with them other than a certain Pokémon being shoved in some random cave
Either you just don’t remember the dex entries in past games or you’ve only played Legends, where they’re all new since it takes place in a vastly different time period
I read the entries in every game and visit the wiki to read them regularly
I also read the dex entires whenever I'm getting sprites for a Pokémon
I read dex entries and so many of them are just a rehash of the same ones
Like give me more cool pokemon lore about them
Gotta read in between the lines
A previous entry gives that Gengar chills you
A few others tell you that it's exactly by ten degrees as soon as it comes in
Another gives the range
And then one more gives the method, which I believe is through siphoning heat into his dimension
Also all the dex entries that contradict each other or just don't make any sense
But anyways, gen 5 was when they started reusing dex entries
Dex entries being partially unreliable makes sense
PLAs are the only ones not written by a child
And even then it's by someone who's in the process of studying these Pokémon and may get stuff wrong
If anything, PLA just shows that modern Dex entries are 100% not accurate, because we already have all this fucking info
We aren't actually learning new stuff about the Pokémon like Oak suggested
It's just a kid's diary toy that lets us record stuff if anything
The guy that writes the dex entries has to be a fucking blind person with no arms. They could be so much better
Remakes as well, but those cases are more than permissible. 🙂
gen 5 was also prob partialy due to intiial sot reboot
oc initital soft reboot may have been due to prior reasons
Why do people say gen 5 is a soft reboot
Like
Other than having only new pokemon until postgame what is so reboot-ey about it
There’s videos explaining that in full detail
It's because it has only new Pokemon until the postgame
yeah it was intended as one
bucnh of stuff also wa meant to b e equivalent to kanto ones
and they reset pikachu exlicitly in the anime
thats whyits soft
not hard
Also I checked a few gen one and two mons
No dex entires are reused, just the same info reworded
With some extra details from game to game
BsSp are the only ones that actually copy text
I know for a fact you're wrong because I checked some Pokemon's dex entries too
Because it was. Gen IV incorporated a bunch of the unrealised ideas from previous generations (Shellos and Gastrodon, scrapped Gen II evolutions and Canalave being almost identical to a beta from Gen II), so it felt like the culmination of everything that came before. Meanwhile, Gen V switched from Japanese-based regions to a different country, had an entirely new batch of Pokémon, and very much felt like a clean slate. 😅
The raichu entry is the same other than it says (I think it was copperajah) instead of saying Indian elephant.
Yea it's true
I like that they retconned the Indian elephant to Copperajah, which is based on an Indian elephant. 🙂
The end of Khu and Kaka.. One of them will be missed, SHANK! that like button!
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If i wait enough years I'm sure the anime will pick it up..
So if ||volcarona getting a past/future form|| is real
Does anyone here remember that one tweet from CentroLeaks from months ago? The ones with the vague ass emojis?
What if ||the moon and moth|| was actually ||ancient volcarona||
hmmm interesting
||Charizard isn't in base game! Let's go.||
||Now if only we could get rid of the electric mouse||
Pawmi is the superior pikaclone
||electric/fighting fuck yeah||
Is there any proof of this, by the way? 😮
One of the leakers has begun to reveal which pokemon are in or not in the game
A legitimate leaker? Because Khu's leaks seemingly suggested that ||Charizard was in the game.|| 😮
Which leaker is doing this? 😅
I'll have to check again
Guys, there was a leaker that leaked that ||all leaks a fake, including the one you're reading right now||
I think it was someone who goes by the name kakaman. He has since deleted his twitter, khu confirmed that his leaks were legit but because of translation upon translation, he got a lot of stuff wrong
Khu called it the telephone game
Oh it is Kaka doing the new leaks? In that case, I'm optimistic about the previous one. 🙂
idk, his stuff can be pretty wrong at times
like when ||they claimed all ancient/future forms of pokemon kept the same typing|| but then they said later that ||a bug pokemon with an ancient/future form would lose its bug type||
could be that they're playing diffrent builds? Plus the game of telephone we have to play to get leaks
What game of Telephone?
the telephone game
basically this:
one person makes a mistake when repeating what they heard, and the next person does so too
basically that, but with translating things from japanese to chinese back to japanese to english
Ok xD. I was thinking in Master or UNITE 😅
Gartic phone
Pokémon Master Sex
👀
I will be Happy if starter evolution end in something like this
I'd be disappointed with both Sprigatito and Fuecoco. 😦
||Fuecoco just needs to be a bit chonkier and menacing and would be good for me||
||Pretty much yeah, it seems way too feminine and Salazzle-esque, making it look too anthropomorphised. 😅||
||I wouldn't say it's feminine but it seems kinda small for what Fuecoco looks like it's gonna be, and the entire rooster on the head is too extra||
||I don't know, the eye shape and the pink triangles underneath it (even if they're meant to resemble the colourful skulls from Dia de los Muertos) red as feminine to me, plus the bird flames resembling like a samba headdress.|| 😂
||Don't get me wrong though, I like the design, it just doesn't fit Fuecoco specifically at all.|| 😦
||Why does Quaxly evo have peacock feathers?||
||why don't you?||
||Because I evolve via friendship||
||guess you'll never evolve ||
||Brutal||
||Pokémon often draw from multiple species, that's not abnormal. Bird lines especially seem to do it. 😅||
||It's also fairly standard for starters to do this||
||Honestly I'm kinda bummed about Hisuian Samurott and Typhlosion in hindsight, because whilst I do like them I'm worried that Gamefreak will put off giving the other starters of gen 2 and gen 5 any love for longer because of their existence. Like (not that this was likely anyway, but as an example) this whole Ancient Pokémon/Future Pokémon idea, we probably won't get the gen 2 or gen 5 starters for that the same way gen 1 starters got megas and shit.||
||In an ideal world, Empoleon, Infernape and Torterra should have all gotten new forms for their remakes. That's how I see it. And that's part of why I hate their abandonment of megas. It would have been so fucking easy to have mega starters for each remake but no fuck us I guess||
||why is samurott still on 4 legs
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In an ideal world, Gamefreak would do cooler stuff than regionals 
I like regionals
regionals is a fun concept
Revisiting old mons give me some of my favorites
I liked Gen 6s approach more
No regionals and less new mons?
megas
Megas are really weird. Great concept but they're the most high-effort and least universal gimmick
I can count on one hand the amount of times I could actually use a mega in a game that wasn't the lucario or starter
Megas should have stayed part of the battle mechanics like abilities did in gen 2 
*3 but I agree
Oh yeah, they kept being a mechanic in 3 but I meant they got added in gen 2 and have been a staple ever since 
no, shinies and breeding were 2, 3 added abbilities and weather. I'm Jhon Hoenn
No abilities in gsc yeah
2 added sp. Def
oh right
"An Ability (Japanese: 特性 Ability) is a game mechanic introduced in Generation III that provides a passive effect in battle or in the overworld" bulbapedia
The special split
And 2 types
Man I completely forgot Special was a single stat once. Such a weird decision
I really like regionals, they're effectively canonised Delta Pokémon. 🙂
Regionals are cool
Tho I preferred them in SM
Cuz they were a bit more symmetrical to the normal design
A lot of the SwSh regionals are just
Better in every way to the point there's no point for the originals anymore
obstagoon moment
Yeah
Nobody will ever care about basic linoone after this unless they're the very niche group of people who only use weak mons
I tried designing a sort of equivalent that was more focused on support
lemme see if I can find it
it had an ability that increased the new mon's attack if it swaps out for them
including if it faints
Cool
It's why I miss when pokemon actually got new evos
Like, why do all the new evos have to be only for the regional forms?
They basically feel like completely different lines that the originals are forced to be compared against
SM's approach just felt more balanced and justified, even if they did end up competitively better cuz powercreep
Or gen 3 fans like me
I wish zigzagoon got something cooler because tanukis are my favorite animal
Honestly a lot of people see Sun and Moon comp as the most enjoyable for the sheer amount of different stuff present in it. I believe megas (granted possibly in need of a bit of fine-tuning) were so incredibly enjoyable even being poorly executed with pseudo-legendaries and stuff, so if they'd really taken the time and effort to do them right instead of scrapping them, megas could have been one of the most exciting long-running things about Pokémon
Look no further than how excited people get about regionals (me included)
It's stupid that Gamefreak would just dump such a good concept and essentially reset the gameplay to a much more mundane time
I didn't like Z-moves tbh. They just felt like a once-per-battle instantkill most of the time
I can agree there. I've said before that my favourite Z moves are actually stat boosts.
I really didn't enjoy Z-moves that were just glorified explosion without killing your own Pokémon
But setting up with something like Z-Happy Day is a way more enjoyable use
Yeah! Z-Evo boost was a cool way of making Eevee actually useful in a battle
That being said, I think some of the omniboost Z moves were misplaced
Jirachi and Gyarados didn't need that imo
lmao I agree with that as well
But I can imagine what Z-moves could have been with more unique effects, or with the omniboosts on weaker Mons
A Z-fly or Z-skydrop could have been fun to see, maybe not as insane damage as the Z-moves we know now, but you get the benefit of taking your opponent into the sky for a turn
Don't actually know how that benefit would be used but someone would think of something
Or Z-transform with some sort of added bonus, not only being a unique effect but possibly discouraging Imposter + Choice Scarf...
God I hate Scarf Ditto
It's a pretty cheap strat but really effective against unoptimized teams
I wouldn't hate it as much if I didn't try to use gym leader teams in monotype, mega Lopunny with scarf ditto is just ridiculous
I'm pretty excited for the leaked gimmick of Scarlet/Violet. ||Whenever new forms are involved, I see it as a benefit. The simple fact is new forms are fun, and it's why I'm so forgiving of the mega system despite how broken it is. Sure it needed fixing, but rule of cool.||
Not confirmed but ||there are leaks surrounding "ancient" Pokémon. I'm not too clear on the details because leak YouTubers tend to be annoying but from what I've seen I'm imagining a future/past Mons system or something similar||
What does that have to do with Zigzagoon, the raccoon Pokémon?
Oh also ultrabeasts should come back
Preferably they shouldn't all gave beast boost, or at least have different second or hidden abilities
But they were also a cool idea
Bring them back
||there is apparently rumors going around that there's something similar in practice happening in SV||
Base linoone is still used for belly drum e-speed
The dark typing just makes it more frail than it would have been and only gives a stab throat chop
See now you're talking about competetive battling
And why would anyone subject themselves to that
Cause it's pretty fun when you aren't doing official events
Ask Smogon
Poor Kantonian Farfetch'd, its now literally worthless.
It has different coverage, even tho neither far fetched is very good
Makes sense the evo would garner more usage
Yeah, its just normal Farfetch'd is a generic flying/normal mon that is like.... everywhere. Why ever use Farfetch'd instead of say, Pidgeot?
Pretty sure all the classic route 1 bird Pokemon of the different gens are better.
This is an overlap with how they have stopped to give true new evolutions to old Pokemon.
I love the idea of regionals as variation, but when they get extra evolutions that the original doesn't have, it feels like they are mocking the original mon.
Gen1 pokemon are either terrible or completely broken
I have a problem with give “normal” evolutions. Sinnoh ruined old favorites of mine like a Electabuzz and Magmar
Or Rhydon
If they get a regional evolution and you dont like it you still have the original Pokemon
You always still have the original pokemon
They dont get worse
In fact, eviolite makes them better
Look at dusclops for example
Yes. Also Gligar…But still hurt a bit 😅
If anything, new evos bring more attention to the pokemon
Yes. Also I must say that I never train an Aipom until Ambipom come
Why do so many gen2 pokemon have such low bst? Its like they were planned to be prevo's all along
Ledian needs a regional Evo ASAP
There are a lot of weak Pokémon but Ledian is the only final Evo that comes to mind which is essentially worthless in what is seemingly an unintentional manner
There is no lore reason for it to be so weak
It's just bad
I can only assume they gave it a low attack stat because of iron fist but if that's the case what the hell sort of stats did they think were reasonable at the time?
I think they just didn't really understand balancing back then and thought it was fine. 😅
Even though the whole point of most standalone Pokémon in Gen I was that they were as strong as some final evolutions, they kind of just... ignored that in Gen II. 😂
Something like this
Ledian is irredeemable competitively. It needs a complete do-over at worst
So a regional form then 
The regional form would need to fix it's poor typing, movepool, abilties and somehow every stat
That's what some of them do, yeah
But they can't fix everything at once with a regional form
Says who
Every regional form
Just because they didn't doesn't mean they can't
Leddy's a special case, he deserves it
For my fangame, I buffed every fully evolved Pokémon's BST up to 500+, but I also changed Ledian's typing to Bug/Normal for STAB Comet Punch and I think I gave it Iron Fist too. 😅
Skill link might be better if comet punch is the only move you're lookin at
I gave it like 3 different new punches as well. 😂
I really buffed some of the weaker Pokémon, like Torkoal and Spinda too. 😄
What I wouldn't give for a Torkoal evolution.
they didn't give it anything in oras so it feels like a dream that will stay far away
5 had a complete new dex, 6 had mega's ,7 had regionals and 8 had regional evo's
so I feel like they didn't really have much place
Me too, though I'm interested in seeing how Hisuian evolutions are integrated. 😅
They evolve from the base Pokémon, unlike the Galarian evolutions, and Hisuian Zoroark is back in SV, if the pre-release screenshots are to be trusted. 🙂
6 did have Sylveon, though. 😉
Though that was more an advertisement for the Fairy type than anything else. 😂
I feel like some Megas could and should be made into permanent evolutions; ones like Mawile are pretty dramatically different from their pre-evolved form. 😅
true
I think Megas should only really exist to cap off lines that are absolutely finished, like three-stage ones and Legendaries, where evolution would either break the franchise rules or just be really weird. 🙂
I agree
Especially when some of the Galarian evolutions don't really look like evolutions; Sirfetch'd is a white Farfetch'd with a longer leek and a shield, Mr Rime is Mr Mime with a hat and a second face on its stomach, and Perrserker is just Meowth with horns instead of ears. 😅
Mawile and Audino's Megas are more different than those evolutions, and ones like Sableye or Lopunny wouldn't feel out of place alongside them (perhaps with some slight edits). 🙂
I think they did mega's the way they did from a competitive standpoint, it added a layer of strategie (wich mega to choose, when to use it,...) and it didn't make the pokemon obsolete by making it a prevo. Doing it that way allowed them to make it that gens thing. I don't think they ever planned to make mega's permanent considering gen 7 didn't get any new mega's.
Yeah tbh kinda wish some of the single-stage mon megas could be nerfed and made into normal evos
At least that means they'd not be scrapped entirely
I'm pretty sure they planned for them to be permanent in gen 6 then backtracked on the decision
to me it always felt like just a gimmick, but I guess i was wrong
Eh like
They started retconning megas into everything at the time, the same way they retcon new types to have always existed
They made a gen-1 retelling series that had megas, the gen 3 remakes added megas, etc
Meanwhile Z moves and Maxing literally only come up in their respective regions, in their respective gens.
They were way more obviously made to not last long
Z-moves felt well put into Alolas history though i liked how they implemented them even if i didn’t like the gimmick itself
Yeah I'm not criticizing them
I'm just saying there's a big difference in that regard of being made to be permanent or temporary
Even more evidence of this is Dynamax specifically being stated to be Galar-only, and not appearing in BDSP. Megas appearing in ORAS shows a very different approach than the Dynamax one. 😅
Yeah
It should also be remembered that megas were the first big gimmick they were trying out
It's likely they wished they had made it exclusive and not permanent, after the fact
So they just kind of pretended it was when they were ready to move on
Yeah it's weird
Since gen 6 were my first games, it really felt like megas were just, a pokemon thing, as much as normal evos and everything else
While Z moves then already felt way more self-contained, linked to the clearly exclusive island trial system and everything
I think this might be true. Character customisation was initially going to be XY's gimmick (hence it not being in ORAS), but everyone was obviously furious about the fact that you can't introduce something like that and immediately say "so this will never happen again". Maybe they locked Megas out to give XY something else to call its own, even though that's stupid because they're in ORAS and Gen VII. 😅
I've heard a gen 7 director hated megas
But that sounds like just a dumb rumor tbh
Ohmori? More like "Oh, more-i bad ideas". 
Pff
Tbh I like gen 7 more than 6 despite megas being the best of the gimmicks
8 and 6 are a very similar tier tho
Megas + Z-Moves is so much fun. 😄
My setup sweeper team had Mega Gyarados and Porygon-Z with Z-Conversion, the latter of which is one of my favourite Pokémon to use in any game. 🙂
I didn't get into competitive till recently lol
And even then, competitive is an exaggeration ksksks
I just really like gen 7's whole theming
In both a superficial and abstract sense
While 6 was clearly trying to just be
Bland default pokemon stuff
It's also why I don't really like gen 4 much
Looking forward to them showing some cool stuff only for the games to be ruined by some terrible decisions that they later show in a treehouse, as always 
How pessimistic 
I want new pokemen
And region name
I know the leaked japanese transcription but idk if english one is similar
the ||Ru|| in the middle muddies it up, it's hard to tell how it'd be translated
All japanese and english regions names are same but suddenly except Unova, which is Isshu in japanese
gesundheit
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Japanese stream with probably no english translation 
pokemon presents is gonna be so poggers
specially cause we haven't got any info in a while 
I hope they reveal Machoke's balls finally
Give the people what they want am I right
22 JST? 🤔 that's 4 hours ago, righ?
depends on where you live
oh august 3rd
that's why i say the timezone
I mean it depends on where you live
ik
i have realized my folly
They're not gonna announce new games
pokemon sleep 2
Pokémon Go, Pokémon Home, Pokémon Sleep... 🤔🤔🤔 Pokémon : Go home, you're drunk
Pokémon Legends of Celebi. I wanna dream 😅
I think a legends zygarde in modern day might be cool, would maybe answer all the plotpoints from xy
or one during the 1000 year war
I think it'd be cool to have a Legends game in the jungles of Guyana
working for the scientists who captured Mew
RIGHT THEY BETTER DO IT
pokepark is the best pokemon game
im sorry guys but you cant deny it
I tried playing it a bit but I didn't have a wiimote and I wasn't 9
Finally someone understands
It's good at any age
The only things I want from Nintendo are a Pokepark sequel or remaster, Japanese only Yokai Watch games regionally, and a new smash games
None of them seem possible
unless another smash is gonna have a real story mode I don't think there's really much more they can do with it
not anything that would justify a whole new installment, anyway
Smash Kart, though
trillion dollar idea
Level5 
we didn't deserve them
Pokepark is prime world building
Smash will still have new installments I’m sure, they just won’t have every fighter returning like in Ultimate
I mean Sakurai seemed pretty poofed out
And it wouldn't be the same without him. A new Kid Icarus is much more likely than smash
That’s not true at all
A new smash game will arrive with the next console, that's basically a given. The only question is if sakurai will be the director of it
Smash Ultimate sold more copies than the wii u
I maintain that it has the battling system with the greatest potential. 😄
lechock is best new pokemon
The Pig™️
fr
Lechonk. 😛
smoliv the best 🤝
This does not please The Pig™️
Smolchonk and leoliv are also poggers
Well, the leaks said it would most likely
Although Khu's definition of a 'waifu' is... questionable. 😂
It can also be 50/50 which is neat. I can't be certain but it feels like Pokemon's doing that less and less with designs like that
50/50 what?
my preference would be that smoliv just becomes a progressively larger olive
bigliv
Ah
I mean, gender ratio basically doesn't matter as far as the more gendered designs go
I don't think anyone even thinks of them outside of breeding
They're still just, waifumon, the fact there are male gardevoir doesn't really change their perception in that sense lol
I know, but I quite like it when the design doesn't always influence the gender. There's still a few like that of course, like Primarina and Incineroar
We're getting a pokemon stream thingy soon aren't we? That'll be interesting
tomorrow I think
Agreed. Even things like Delcatty; feminine without being human women. 😅
In just under 16 hours, if my maths is correct. 🙂
I was having this discussion in another server, but I hope that if we get more cross-generation evolutions, they aren't as close to the original forms as the Gen VIII ones. 😅
I hope that too. Regional form from Hisui minus starters feel to similar to original form
Confirmed what we all knew about Koraidon and Miraidon. 😅
||Confirms what?||
That they're the box legends ig
||They're in their rideable forms. 😂||
Ah
||So blurry||
||Is the sprigatito at the bottom standing on 2 legs?||
||Wait is this image even real or is it fake||
||It's apparently an official phone case. 😃||
||Ah, now I see.||
||Oh||
||nah he's just taking a steppy||
I, for one, welcome our new big tiddy olive mommy 😩
I had a dream where I saw the new Pokémon at a workplace; A purple poison platypus and what I think was an evolution of the Paw Pokémon
A purple poison platypus?
||GASP PERRY THE PURPLE POISON PLATYPUS?!||
best pokemon
smoliv is my bebe
It is the day, gentlemen.
The direct is in 1.5 hours, and gf's dad just had to send us at the other end of our town to do some stuff he forgot to do 2 days ago
We'll probably be late
That sucks so much
Tune in at 6AM PT on August 3rd, 2022 for a Pokémon Presents video presentation with updates on Pokémon apps and video games, including Pokémon Scarlet and Pokémon Violet!
:)
getting ready to fucking reserve every pokemon for smogon
im so ready for this
Cute
See this is why I'm not dating anyone.
And that's the only reason.
2 MINS BOIS
My break starts at the present time, I get tah watch it with y'all
Less gooo gamr
im going in vc 1
This is it gamers
yay, finally, let's wait 3 more minutes! 
oooh 1 minute actrually
this music's kinda neat
we were in time btw!!
NICEEE
so watching too
I AM WATCHING BOIS
wtf is that nihilego plush
Chris Brown 💀
up next rihanna
Cardi ComBee 
Can't believe the 5 people still playing tekken get their own tournament
LMAOOO
cardi combee and her big hit, WASP
YOOO
Nice trap beat
Trophies shouldn't be painted like that lol
WILLOW DIED!!! 💀 💀 💀
He's gonna come back blue or something
I miss pokemon spinoffs
I play Unite with my friends so this is some info I'm kinda curious about
THERE HE ISSS
Best UB time
bara and caio gonna play pokemon unite 
RED
wow lame
Jebaited
mfers rlly be spamming "Zzzzzzzz" on the pokemon company showing pokemon projects
i thought it was lets go johto
ye
These are old projects
Had me goin' 
Old n busted
oh no mewtwo
Mewtwo drip
mewtwo cafe
mewtwo's been released from its confinement, time to turn it into a wageslave
Worse than test tube life
its impressive how many shitty mobile games there are
Im using a mini player, I'm blind AF 
Where the videogames
"at no cost... to start"
The lads are here
scarlet and violet time
that wooper looked different
Those were brown woopers right
Wooper real
lotta shit that might not make it into the game
Rideable legends real
"paldea"
Paldea real
Treasure Hunt???
lmao that voixeover
Paldea was the leaked name, nice
Expand...WING EYEBROWS!?
Dog
that's a lot of old mons being shown right here
The legends keep being funnier to me
Ball gimmick real
????
I wonder what that does
looks mega-evolutiony
YOOO
What the fuck is that gimmick????
We are the crystal gems
named pokemon crystal
doesn't have crystal evoluition
Lmaooo
So you have the box legend for the entire game then?
Fair and balanced
They'll be the hm replacements then probably lol
Bike legendaries let's go
Totally wont roll game with just legend and hm slaves
Nope there's gyms
Along 2 other stuff
That's cool
Yes
One day there will be a 3d pokemon game that doesnt look like poop
or not
Cetitan
jacq
i love him
Here we go
HIM
Wooopyyyy
poison wooper
POISON TYPE WOOPER
RWGIONAL WOPPPER
POISON
New wooper thank god
Yesssssss
Thats a cool pokedex
Co Op ISSS reeeeeAAALLLLLL
K gimmick explain
What it do
...wait
Don't tell me
Lmao wtf
Ok, so...extra stab
so it's more like dynamax
And new typing
And....new type
That sounds fun
Bruh they gave pikachu the balloons instead of the surf board wtf -6 points
....oh boy
raid battles wooow
Raids
Raids are still cool
Water gardevoir wtf
Vaporeon gardevoir (do not)
Shows over folks, go home
Neat
poison wooper tho
Awesome present tho
ima get that poison wooper
I love woopy and the dough dog
I might not get this one
violet gang where?
alright gang
what is charizard's special crystal form gonna be like
If I were the type of person to buy these games I'd pick Scarlet
grass lol
their typing can depend
ik
I have bad memories from fighting Leon with his gigantemax charizard with grace grass
Paldea is so poggers lookin
Looks pretty cool
we might get a new eeveelution
I wonder what's up with that swirling vortex in the middle
im digging it so far
dragon eeveelution when
If we actually do, it'll probably be Dragon type since it's the last special typing left
me when i go to gibralter in pokemon scarlet violet
i can understand the people who are upset that the graphics arent "super next gen" but i never played pokemon for graphics anyway so its all the same to me
same
we dont want gta graphics
honestly it's wild that you seemingly get a legendary very near the start of the game
I hope the game footage is not final lmfao
To be honest, we knew most of this already
whats wrong with it
it looks like you can only ride it
I think you can't use the legends in battle until the final part of the game
new rotom phone too
imagine what poison quagsire will look like
hoping to reserve wooper for smogon
https://scarletviolet.pokemon.com/en-us/pokemon/
They updated the website
we'll see lol
Also i think the mc approaching the legend for the 1st time will look like hiccup trying to approach toothless in httyd 
its poison ground wooper
DAS A BIG BOY
Oh they're doing the thing again where mons aren't to scale in battle, huh
Friend
fr
oh wooper keeps water absorb, that's pretty cool
Cetitan's pretty cool though, love its gross whale teeth
I think he's my favourite of the new dudes so far
Something's wrong i can feel it
That's the yeast they can do
I think koraidon looks very silly with the giant wheel in its middle and yet it still running with its legs
yeah, I was thinking that too
it doesnt show the types of the legendarys
I guess it's to keep the imagery but avoid a Tails moment
Yeah it still doesn't
i hope we get more then 1 new form
imagine if fidough got Spore
also, grusha in russian is pear
i hope we get a dark type eevee
Love Cetitan, saying that right off the bat
now the evo
Fucking look at that thing
but new form
what would it evolve into
This was kinda my issue with dynamaxing as well but at least dynamaxing worked proportionally?
I'm only looking forward to how insane comp players will become trying to get the right Tera types for whatever dumb meta
Having them with fucking car ornaments on their head just makes them look dumb
I'd prefer if it was just the crystal effect.
That being said, it's still a pretty hype concept for Pokémon who are let down by their typing
we better get a new regi
I think they were trying to do a sort of Mega evolution compromise
Ice types may see a resurgence with rare Tera Types
let my boy regigigas have some rest, he already made 2 new ones
Isn't that just the old Rotom phone? 😮
'we want to make them look more cool and complicated like Megas without actually needing to design more megas"
'give them a funny hat'
blue cicrle
that's the only diffrence
blue circle
just like phone upgrades in real life
im guessing the gyms are gonna be based on your levels since its all open world
dark type geodude?
I love how the a academies are named orange and grape lmao
All bad design choices are a result of Gamefreak refusing to bring back megas.
In this essay I'll-
fair
what if we get a new legendary form
Have a hunch the ||ancient volcarona|| leak may turn out to be a regional variant in this case
Because if not, why emphasise it so much?
If every Pokémon can do it, that one wouldn't have been a special leak
Who wants megas to come back 🙋♂️ 🙋♂️ 🙋♂️ 🙋♂️ 🙋♂️ 🙋♂️ 🙋♂️
Who wants to design 493 Megas 🙇 🙇 🙇 🙇 🙇 🙇 🙇
Just steal from the community who gives a shit at this point
All possible mega design concepts have been made by fans already
because the community has no idea how to make good designs lol
A lot of em are kinda crap sure but there are some highlights out there
I've seen fanmade megas like 98% of them are just give it more spikes with no design theme
I've said before I like megas that do something unexpected but not necessarily unrelated kinda like Ultimates from Ben 10
On that note how do we feel about giving Tyrantrum a rocket launcher
yes
Worked for Humungousaur
Oh I do not like Koraidon's arm in that art. 😂
New poorly proportioned official art what the hells wrong with Koraidon
I'm glad to play Scarlet over Violet
I'm only getting scarlet because sada>churro
Scarlet has Sada, but Violet has Miraidon. I really can't decide. 😢
Me and my sister will probably just get the opposite of eachother but I want Sada.
I always pick the blue version, Sada will make me change my mind. 
Sada is really cool looking
Turo's just generic the man. 😦
And so is koraidon so, no problems for me 
Koraidon's really cool, I love this duo. 🙂
I can already tell that upperclassman guy is gonna get the Tumblr treatment
Soft looking upperclassman dude with curly hair?
Gonna get eaten alive.
region map
And there's another character that's going to get the Twitter treatment
Why's it got a butthole
The crystal mega evolution thingy looks not too bad and the designs are cool looking, even if everyone only gets a copy pasted hat
But this trailer did a good job convincing me that I'm not getting this for sure
it doesnt look terrible. But there are just so many games that loon way better to me at this point
Good for you ig
We know 
because everyone needs to poop
I prefer crystal textures and a big hat to literally just an upscaled model. 🙂
Everybody poops is actually an ancient Paldean text in this universe
The type change stuff sounds pretty neat
Honestly I didn't mind dyna too much
oh for sure
The animations did a good job of making them feel substantial even though they weren't
At least to me
I do feel a bit weird about it just changing the type, assuming that's what it does? Like what about dual types? And why does something that generates ice just generate wind all of a sudden?
I dunno, I get that from a gameplay design it's just changes words and effects
Someone said it could be akin to Hidden Power? 🙂
But from an aesthetics and lore point it weirds me out
leaks said that ||it doesn't change the mon's type, it just boosts certain type attacks, like an extra STAB boost||
Perhaps it swaps the primary typing
but who knows
Well the trailer says it changes their types
wow that's kinda lame
true
It would be cooler if they at least gave rare Tera Type Mons a visual cue, even if it was just having a part of each pokemon's model change colour for each type
Like highlights
but then I wonder how it works with dual typing
And no I don't give a shit that that would mean adding a bit of colour to every single Pokémon model, the fans could do that shit in a week
like changing Pika's electric to flying makes sence, but what about psychic/fairy gardevoir with water crystal?
My guess would be it swaps the primary type but who knows
It makes fans wet. 
or shit
what if it just adds a third type?
who knows
Really sad they didn't reveal Machoke's balls in this trailer, all the signs were pointing to it and honestly it kinda feels clickbaity at this point
It's not off the table. The trailer seems to just suggest a swap though
I'm wondering if the rarity of types is different per pokemon
Oh yeah, then it is just Hidden Power. 🙂
Terastallizing a Pokémon allows you to enhance your battle strategies by increasing the power of any moves that have the same type as your Pokémon’s Tera Type or by changing your Pokémon’s weaknesses.
shedinja becomes half dark
So it talks of combinations meaning it must not override all their types then right
Man then I really don't like it, sorry. The idea of it making dual type Pokémon single type is super unsatisfying to me
i dont think itll make them single type
Ye, me neither
That's what it implies is it not?
i feel like someone is going to make something lewd with the terastallizing
giving pokemon a third type instead of replacing there current type would be wild man
no idea, it just says it changes their type
It's Pokémon, people do that with everything, sadly. 😦
so I guess it works more like dynamax than z-crystals? you recieve a key item and can crystalize any pokemon in your team rather than you have to give an item to a certain pokemon
oh the transformation isnt something you can spam once per battle
you gotta recharge it
but can you dynamax or mega after?
I don't think either of these things are coming back
I just really don't like it from an aesthetics perspective. Are Tera types like a True type? Is it just a random phenomenon? What makes one bellsprout more prone to fire than another
It'll probably be tied to the plot
I'm excited for the other info don't get me wrong, this is just kinda... Dumb
Doesn't feel like it makes Pokémon inherently stronger (aside from boosting stab I guess)
Dynamax was infinitely more dumb. 😂
dynamaz is So good for battles, it stop all that nonsense with people spamming protect or evasion moves.
I disagree
we dont know, gotta wait for that info
Not that impactful unless you're thinking intelligently which most players don't because they're actual children
Megas were so cool because even as a stupid child you knew you had a cool new Pokémon
To be fair, Porygon-Z in SM was one of my favourites to use with Z-Conversion because it changed type. 😄
This is lame in comparison
im serious, its really good. You don't know how many matches i had dynamax come in clutch just because i had low accuracy/my opponent used something like protect or double team.
That's different, plus I have less of an issue with normal types switching type because that actually seems to be a theme with a lot of em
Everytime anything in this game is revealled the conversation immediately goes to Megas and Dynamax 
Im fine with it
hmmm
Grusha is another character in my gf's collection that she thought is a girl hahaha
koraidon and koraidon
others are Melly, Burgh and Bugsly
Koraidon deez nuts
wait they are a guy
Now that that's out the way.
ye he's a guy
yup
Wish the flying forms had a bigger wingspan
wow
cant wait until the entire dex gets leaked
if I don't see boobs on a character from Pokemon, I think it's a guy, and I had no mistakes yet
ready to reserve everything
tbh I absolutely hate how leakers reveal stuf
sounds lewd but still true
I was smeckledorfed. 😅
LOL
"lol you gotta solve this riddle if you wanna know what im talking about"
Well you're in luck
That's not even a word and I agree with you. 😛
people hating on my boy fidough
I'd just rather it added a type or even changed the secondary typing. The complete typing change just feels weird and unsatisfying to me in a way I can't quite explain
bruh we dont know if it completely changes the type. relax
people are saying thiss little guy is ugly.
That's the implication though, and I doubt they'll go a more complicated route
I fucking love that bread dog
But I'd eat it whole.
Season 1: Episode 44a | Mr. Krabs finds out the health inspector is a fake.
He's cute. I like that fairy type's got alot of foodmons
its the snout that looks a lil off for me lol
thats not the implication, thats what your assuming it to be based off the limited info we have
I love Fidough. ❤️
The name's really cute too. 🙂
i love lechonk
Bread doge
Names this generation have been on point, to be honest. 😄
Smoliv, Fidough, Lechonk
watching the trailer very slowly, who is this
all the puns this generation are great
The mons in this gen have felt very punny, more so than usual
kinda looks like red
inb4 red
Ssi sinor chonk
Oh that's my buddy Craig
Even Cetitan is Cetacean Titan
Ngl I want that chonky ice whale pokemon
Ig that's not a pun is it nvm
boy is 14'9" and weight 1.5k
its a biggun
Fucking LOVE Cetitan
He's my favourite of the new dudes so far
Hope to god it has thick fat or a good secondary typing though
Because it's not gonna be fast.
My guy's living large
i got the poke dex info on it
its just ice type
Oh cool it does have thick fat
I wonder if it has a pre evolution
probably not
Like drednaw
Slush rush is also a great one so long as it's not TOO slow
Like if it's average speed with slush rush it won't need to tank too well
But it could be a Coalossal situation
50 spd incoming
Yeah that's my fear
But at least it's got thick fat as a backup
Adds a bit more potential
Just pray you don't run into any fighting moves ever
inb4 its tanky as all hell
it all comes down to hitss attacking stats
Those are rare right
I wonder if in the overworld when they chase you they roll up into a giant snowball and roll to you aggressively
hold on
that sounds horrifying.
the abilitys tho
More varied pokemon movements would be nice but I'm not holding my breath
aroma veil
NOW WAIT A MINUTE
armoa veil what?
Thats the point it's like horrific snowmen
Kinda weird that it's the "Terra whale Pokémon" without a ground typing. I guess just because it lives on land but I'm used to terra being connected to ground types
i forgor what that does
its spritzees signature move and prevents your opponent from locking you out of moves
Lechonk the prankster taunt destroyer
The site explains its diet has caused it to constantly give off an odor that drives bugs away
So that'd be why it has it
everyone calling the new wooper pooper because its brown
no his name is henrick
I wanna eat Fidough
imma name my cetitan Bertha
Fidough bread with Lechonk ham 😋
Idk why we can't just eat pokemon
top that with a smoliv
if pokemon can eat each other im sure we can
I think Smoliv's inedible
Like I wonder what talonflame tastes like
Atleast its oil is which it's presumably full of
Wow, just like real olives!
Kentucky Fried Combusken
with some a good scoop of vanillite
A nice tall glass of chocolate moomoo milk
it has it's original cry 
That's old news
Arceus
It's apparently not considered as such
I'm talking about sc/vi
I just took the guess they are doing it from now on
I thought arceus has the original pika cry because it's a game about the past
now it's a common thing
Movements? 😮
I'm happy, never liked PIIIKACHOO and EEVAAAH
Like, how they chase you in the overworld
Oh, yeah, that'd be great. 😄
cant wait to have my small wailord follow me around
Pokemon all have weird ass bodies and very rarely does the game take advantage of that
I kinda prefer the actual voice cries instead the weird old cries
it's not much but some mons like Tauros charge at you following a straight line at full spead, like bulls do
in swsh
I used to prefer voice cries, now I prefer the consistency of them all being the same. 🙂
Metagross tucking its legs in and flying like a saucer was awesome, do more of that shit
i mean the pokemon seem to be size appropriate
Also voices get really annoying, really quickly. Pixelmon made me learn that. 😂
Tsareena and Haterene are available in SV. I didn't expect Gardevoir will too~ (If they cut the dex again)
PRIMAAARINAAAA

Gardevoir was in the trailer
Gardevoir's literally in the same trailer. 
yes
All the waifu mons
Gardevoir is the thing getting blasted
It's always the thing getting blasted
sorry, i meant "didn't" my grammar suck hah
I'm gonna assemble a party full of the waifu mons
I saw my main man Scizor
I saw gastly so im happy
they better have my boy alakazam
i just nidoking, crobat and shedinja to be in and ill be good
Anyone see Milotic or Feebas? 🤔 i hope it gets regional form
That'd be awesome
It had a metallic sheen as well, looked great. 😄
I don't think we saw any fish?
Pineco also looked to have more detailed textures. 🙂
I noticed an interesting thing about tera raid battles
i saw gyarados
Ah, nice
"This is a new kind of raid battles where you can attack or heal with your own timing without having to wait for your allies"
These games look so beautiful compared to swsh I gotta appreciate that
Tell your pokemon to start swinging and dont stop
I love dynamax adventures a lot but waiting for an afk player is a huge pain
Me and the bois taking down wailords with a team of magikarps that know tackle
my gf hates the graphics of ScVi
previous games look better in her oppinion
the look the fucking same?
I don't pay that much attention to the graphic
Well, there's still some jank but it already looks slightly better than SwSh
i musst be blind then
jeez there was 73 pokemon in the trailer
I like pokemon's new textures and I don't care much about overworld
new humans style tho is... questionable
I prefer the old one
but eh
yeah new look is shit
at least it's not Let's Go hahaha
looks like the pokemon snap style, it's kinda bad
where Lance looks like a 10 years old
they look for the lack of better term soulless
I don't think they're bad personally
I don't like Let's Go and I'm ok with ScVi, I just really like, let's say, gen 7 for example
well they confirmed we can change our appearances so its all good
in terms of humans style specifically
Gen 7 is fun but the start is really boring
in terms of humans style specifically
how they're drawn and all
the official ScVi artworks are dope tho
Oooo I don't really like gen 7's style at least not compared to XY
has wheels
runs
I find it so funny hahaha
That shits funny
I love Koraidon so far
Poor miraidon only has 2 legs
I honestly expected it to run instead of ride like those wheels would be painful if they could move
This is a certified Lizard Moment™️
reptile gang
Reptile gang for life
there are people wondering how come the new legendaries have modern human things as parts of their bodies
Bro what game series do you think this is?
the KEY pokemon
Gen 7 was a good generation let down by it's "sequel?" Which was a straight upgrade to the original game done in a way which forced you to essentially replay the original game
Fucking Magnemites how do they work
and lets not forget that voltorb and electrode are just sentient pokeballs

sentient ground with eyes.
That one apparently has a dex explaination? It was always weird though
I don't get why people try complain about pokemon not making sense naturally when it's literally a series about fantasy monsters like suspend your disbelief mate
They're supposed to be ghosts possessing pokeballs but I really don't buy that
fiction is fiction who would have lethunk?
Honestly people can rag on newer object Mons all they want but realistically
Ice cream Pokémon can just be made of ice/snow
Humans make so much trash, plenty for sentient Pokémon to form
Keys is a bit weird but at least it's a thing people have, and lose, and can be collected BY a Pokémon
"omg klefki makes no sense as a Pokemon!"
hehe sentient sludge goes brrr
But magnetite?
People don't leave that many HORSESHOE SHAPED MAGNETS lying around
Nobody has that many cartoon magnets
Another thing im tired of hearing is "People force pokemon to do things"
and its just like
People complain about object mons when Charmander is literally a pokemon that needs a fire on its tail to stay alive but can still be hurt by fire
magnetite are magnets that grew eye and reproduce by budding.
iirc that actually is the Vanillite explaination, and that it's likely ice-cream's based on them in this world
That's fucked up
I love that, it's neat
But it's fucked up that someone looked at an innocent creature they didn't wanna eat
There's that one episode in the pokemon anime where they have pastries shaped like Torchics
Then said "look at me recreate you perfectly so I can eat you"
tfw there was the art that vanillixe is not full icecream and actually has a solid center where its body is
and a Blaziken freaks out
Me
