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raichu finalist
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AHEM
@fallow bough Reminder to do the Isaac Choice Award for the past six contests now. 
3.Charizard (Stan)
While the design is overall excellent as with all 3 entries in this battle, it still has some perspective flaws and does not catch the chosen theme as well as the other entries. The shading is solid.
2.Blastoise (Tene) overall amazing design, it suffers from perspective issues not exactly giving off that dynamax impression. Also the legs need some editing to fix the perspective and proportion issues. The โshell armorโ as design works very well and makes it an overall appealing design to look at.
- Venusaur (Kiwi) of the 3 given Sprites this one came out on top. While the overall design lags in some points, which might have to do with the design of venusaur in general, the flower does a good job in catching and focussing the eye on a specific part of the sprite. The dynamax impression is also fullfilled greatly and the fusion looks enormous.
Spleenjuice points: Charizard 7.5/10 Blastoise 8/10 Venusaur 9/10
Keksgesicht points: Charizard 7/10 Blastoise 9/10 Venusaur 8/10
Knuckles just ranked them according to the list.
@burnt bane @tall moss @zenith matrix
ayyy congrats kiwi ๐ฅณ


imagine stressing 2 hours to still lose 
@zenith matrix congrats on the raichu comp!
Still a great sprite!
your competition was just very hard to beat
its an incredible sprite stan
well worth the 2 hours of stress
You all did great
thats very true ๐
I'll do the one for this one when the truel talk's died down. I don't want to impede on it more than necessary.
No need to stress. There is basically no benefit to winning anyway.
Congrats to the winners! ^^
except eternal glory
You get a role if it's your first time and your sprite is the server icon for a week. Nothing to stress over.
But not sure how @zenith matrix will handle the points if he cant take knuckles points in account. Blastoise and venusaur both score the same amount
@thorny saddle congrats on 2nd place also โค๏ธ your fusion is aboslutely adorable and super well executed
or just add a point to his own sprite and 2 to kiwis
1/10 2/10 and 3/10 is very knuckles-esque
Sounds about right
"Not enough Natu"
Yeah, not sure how you would handle the points in this one.
I think Tenes pointing system would work as long as you only consider Keks and Spleens to be judges.
There will definetly be a rule that in order to be a judge you have to be willing to give out points.
But I also don't fault Knuckles in this one since he was basically made a judge without asking and without him knowing what is even going on ๐
poor knuckles
hm?
anyway ima get back to work now, ping me if anything cool comes up :y
I fucking called it lmao
im also gonna be thinking on who to challenge to a sprite fite next ๐ prepare yourselves erryone
@tall moss prizes?
for the funny contest? no idea, ask bta
i refuse
For not inviting him over to dinner
Thats pretty rude
I was having Mac n cheese n weenie quesadillas and heโs upsetti because he wanted some and he wasnโt invited

electrode body fight?

Isaac posting in the #contest-gallery the same day as the contest ends? ๐
impossible, i must be dreaming
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I've done it before. 
Really? ๐
Literally did it for Shroomish.
And uh, regional variants.
Honestly the majority of them before that point too.
This one was the worst, took me almost a year to do it.
The numbers aren't sprited ???
is the channel quiet enough for the isaac awards ๐
ISAAC AWARDS
Isaac awards?!
Honestly this week's Isaac Choice Award didn't have too much thought on my part. I just thought it was absolutely adorable, and a really clean sprite to boot. It's a Raichu fusion that doesn't lose the charm of Raichu, and while there were several of those in this competition, this one was my personal favourite.
So congratulations to @thorny saddle for winning this week's Isaac Choice Award! 
That spoiler hides so much, what can I say?
Also the point of these was that my opinion is usually unpopular. Stop voting for the ones I like.
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now for the next contest
I just need to decide on a theme first. Some of the ones that came up a lot are uh... Questionable.
sexy theme ๐
I got an idea for the next contest Isaac. Make an Isaac Contest. People will have to imagine how they could fit to the theme 
That was one of them.
Congrats@thorny saddle For second and the choice award!
No. 
One that came up a lot that I'd like some discussion on as I don't plan on doing it today, was I pick a specific country and you all do fusions based around it. Personally I was neither sure what country to pick, nor sure if any country would actually give enough to work with.
sexy theme ๐
Too bad Sjoba isn't here anymore. He would break us apart with his Gardevoir fusions
Pick something that isn't Denmark, you should be good then.
People can sprite f l a t n e s s
Ooh, something like the Grecian mythology contest ?
Texas?
i had a bunch of ideas i never submitted to the google form thingy ๐ค
that could hurt many peoples butt
Im a texan so im legally required to do this when someone says texas. YEEEHAWW
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ill just copynpaste em here:
tarot cards
chinese new year (the 12 animals)
various eras of history (Victorian, medieval, prehistoric?)
beauty and the best (an ugly/beastly pokemon fused with a pretty one)
fairy tales/fables (goldilocks, tortoise and the hare, etc)
idioms?
Make an Egyptian contest already ! but with just one rule : Cofagrigus cannot be submitted to this one
Imagine not submitting them to my form. 
Also idioms?

Like a fusion of... Crossing a bridge when you come to it?
I've never once been able to figure out what the y is doing in that face.
I dont even remember what I submitted to the forum lmao
thigns like "let the cat out of the bag" could be fun to sprite
:y is:
seasonal themes always sounded fun to me
autumn especially
but winter could be neat too. probably lots of ice type fusions.
Probably do Winter next time, once we're in festive_month.
yes
Oh god sbahj
oh here were some themes I submitted awhile ago
o i love those
thinking back some of them are really general lmao
colors ๐
Double Trouble coming back!! 
POG POG POG
that and the whimsicott
Yeah they were both adorable
I'm kinda sad the Darkrai didn't make it further though, it was a pretty cool idea and I liked the pose
@lime latch as both Kiwi and I scored the same amount of judge-points, we dont gain points from the other one
Stan however will loose points to us
and now that truel is over, i can give my share on what i think the others did well and what not
first and for most, Stan improved his design greatly, while it isnt on par with Kiwi sprite quality, the design is really good
and for Kiwis sprite, as much as i liked the shading, i thought that the perspective was a bit too much/the legs too meaty and for my taste not enough of Haxorus was left
when Keks says mine has proportion issues with the legs, does that mean, given Kiwis sprite, that mine werent meaty enough? ๐
I just sent my contest ideas. If only I knew there was a forms like this before 
id wish we could honor some sprites equally, gotta say i like this time around a lot more of the entries a lot, more than in other contests
yeah this contest had a lot of great entries
WHAT
It was just the idea Howls send
i deeply regret describing my venu's feet as meaty, now i gotta pciture all 3 mons being various degrees of fleshy
fuck
same, voted it in the finals
I liked that at least one in each preliminary bracket had Thunder Stones incorporated to the design
Yeah
good way to work around Raichu's rather meh color palette tbh
or alternatively you could just
no, kinda the opposite i thought. not sure about the others but i would have said the blastoise legs ended up being too big and blocky compared to the rest of the body. cause you also put most of your highlights around that area
use the colour scheme of the other mon in the fusion
I mean, if you're following the standards for fusion, Raichu head has Raichu colors so...
Not everyone wanted to do raichu body
personally I liked working with raichu as body more though, and just went for ideas/palettes I preferred
Sorry, was typing up the new contest when I got an exam result back and I thought I should check that instead. ๐
How dare you?
Yeah, Real-Life before contests
all good
share your results isaac 
Now I wonder how old isaac is๐
No. They're good for the UK but probably really bad in the eyes of those from the US because of how differently they grade things. ๐
Isaac?๐
he's as old as life itself
Woah
he has seen it all
I truly was expecting you to be much older than me
21 soon.

20 isn't old
Exactly
Its 2 years older than me
I could join your class and no one would ask me why I'm with such an old guy
๐ฎ a babby
Lol
its weird being older than all of the mods i know the ages of ๐
What's your age kiwi
26
Chippy is 70, so he brings the average up.
I'm still typing it, but I'm in awe of my exam result and it's slowing me down. ๐
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All of us watching #event-announcements ๐ ๐ ๐
yes. ๐
uhm ok...dont quite get that whilst peeking at venusaur, but im happy with the overall result and accept the judges decision, tho i think i would have appreciated a condensed statement per judge
what is this new competition?
Forgotten
I assume it's a sprite of a contest that has been forgotten
Whatever it means to you.
Can I just enter all of the previous isaac choice awards? As he seems to forget those huehue
New sprites only.
Nah I didn't expect my Reuniclus to place, the d-max ttar one was an obvious win and the corsola and whismicott ones were too cute to not take second and third <3
DAMN
It makes me think of the isaac charachter
huh, my sprite doesnt look that great as a sever icon ๐
also I love the gibberish isaac
Forgotten huh
Forgotten... mmh.
Gliberish Isaac? ๐
then dont win next time tene Byyy
So do I just make a Psyduck/Wobufett using Amnesia?
I have no idea for this one
I have no ideas
DAYUMM
time to submit an empty entry i forgot to sprite it
I predict a lot of bannette splices.
why?
we can do a sprite and then say we forgot the theme XD
Just make Uxie / Gengar
ngl, i think Cali did quality-wise a far better job than i
So lemme get this straight. You didnt want to pick any of the submitted themes cause they were something, and you decided to go with forgotten
Yeah
Holy shit
Cali's sprites are always such nice quality, absolutely love their work
What if that's the idea of the theme
Isaac was probably like: "Hey look at all these themes. I think I'm gonna go with "
I think i have a idea..
Me too Katten
submitted my 100% serious entry
I'd expect a lot of sprites of mons people generally consider 'forgotten' mons..
Nice for you
Whatever "forgotten" means to you. I won't remove things that I feel don't fit the theme, since this theme is more of a stimulus than a rigid definition. This is how the themed competitions used to be.
Votes will then be based on whatever the voters think best fits the theme. Or at least that's the idea.
I wonder how many entries there are going to be.
Very strange contest theme
@fallow bough What kind of Rayquaza are you going to request this time?
You stole that one guy's idea
We both know most people just go with oh huhuh this Sprite looks cool instead of oh wow this fits
Yeah
Why Dratini Probopass tho
Rayquaza are for classics only.
i forgot
Now you need to tell or dm me your birthday or month, because I'm "21 soon" as well and I need to know who is older ๐
Sadly votes are almost always based on LoOk At ThIs CoOl SpRiTe, instead of what they are meant to be if not that.
Why don't you just say your birthday? ๐
Also cool is more important than quality
ah it stings, it stings ๐
but sometimes a sprite will fit the theme better and will get outvoted by a simply better-made sprite that may not even fit the theme well
I mean.. yeah p much
This is an issue I attempted to fix with the more rigid themed competitions, but they came with their own issues.
I had an idea, and then, i gave up.. 
coolness factor usually outweighs quality or relevance to theme for most voters
even with more rigid themes
I have literally no ideas for this contest
making a bruxish for forgotten
there's always going to be one or two "epic" sprites that still fit the theme that just win automatically
#contest_meta
Or did you have them and have you just
Forgotten
Them
the contest meta theory has been proven quite often
Which one is better celebi/banette or banette/celebi?
the funny contest had a cheems and a welcome mat on the podium, those are not very epic
Easy solution, ban @zenith matrix.
Or celebi/voltorb
well, but the "epic" one won
obviously you could just flood it with banettes based on forgotten dolls
I think the legal wholesale theme was easier to think of ideas for
we just did a banette competition 
So celebi/voltorb wins ๐
I have an idea
good for you
Same
Everyone forget to submit something
I'm not gonna share it but... it might be fun heh
just need to think of the other component to the fusion
Me neither
ill see wheither ill enter smth else, but i already submitted a sprite, just because, that was prolly the only sprite i forgot to post for weeks
Don't want nobody stealing my ideas 
for once I ave no idea
actually fuck it I'll share it just because
Read the rules. ๐
I thought of some characters from shows who were forgotten and then they were brought back and the plot was that they were forgettable
Like in the amazing world of gumball
ah frick, i forgot

free idea
will work on it later
I feel like I'll be hearing a lot of this. 
boomer
I'll pass on this contest, the theme is way too hard for me :sad:.
It's only hard if you make it hard.
Yes, this is my time to shine if not too many people are going to enter. 
Well, i dont have any ideas.
funny that u give up after iterating over it maybe for 15 minutes ๐
another free idea
Maybe I'll fuse Lumineon with Maractus ๐
maractus isn't forgettable
I'll get more ideas tommorow. 
:)
however I did forget that lumineon exists.
I feel like the reference I'm gonna make with my fusion might go over some peoples' heads but it'll be fun at least
pokemon with very few sprites in the gallery + another pokemon with very few sprites in the gallery
just pick one of the new prevos added in
a few of them still have no sprites I think
nah those are constantly getting sprited
shroomish didn't get any sprites til the contest lmao
maybe Magby? Magby sucks.
ponyta/mantyke
??
mantyke is pretty forgettable too yeah
Probably a request he made
and probs lacks sprites
I have an idea but Idk who to fuse X)
How many Pokรฉmon know the move Amnesia?
Some of them
a fair few
soporifik does
probs a fakemon
yes
How do you spell Wobbufett?

Shhht it is 
Not the buffet that is a bunch of food, the buffet that means to strike repeatedly
Nice !
wow
time for me to dominate this comp 
And how dumb are your ideas?
I wish I had a single idea...
yes, unmotivated XD
heh.. FOOL
Let's just say the Pokรฉmon involved are pretty dumb themselves...
Budew and Shelgon
do tell


Will you fool, you thought I would spill the beans to you?
but like
Spill the eggs
What's the point in keeping it secret
apart from idea theft which I doubt will happen
it's more fun to discover it when he will show the fusion in #spriting-discussion
forgotten
It's klefki time
I also thought of a Klefki fusion
We think on the same frequency my friend
Dips on Klefki Diglett/Dugtrio
a forgotten half burrowed key
lol that's genius
I think i might do unown/klefki
Just to be clear, do these contests have to use only pokรฉmon that are available in IF?
no
as of right now no
shit
Oh phew, my idea isn't dead then.
Uh, "lost" could be considered a type of "forgotten", right?
depends
whatever forgotten means to you
here goes motisma/voltorb (or the other way around, I don't know yet)
"Aw crap I forgot my keys"
another idea (but I won't tell the pokemons, it's too obvious :D)
and the 3rd one :D
what the fuck is a motisma
another non English name
ah
Ah
erg, I'm tired ok
I hope mrvoid isn't telepathically stealing my idea 
it's rotom
ik
i have my 3 ideas 
Good point, but not what I was thinking.
I could redo my unown/klefki but with question mark unowns kek
but I do already have one idea so
gonna go start on it now actually
Shit, I just remembered that one of the pokรฉmon I wanna use is a gen VI pokรฉmon with no official sprite.
I acquired those about 20 minutes ago
What Pokรฉmon has no official sprite?
Veegee you can always use Sticky
3D era ones
What's Sticky?
a lot of things
Just google "<pokemon's name> sprite" and go to images
Why is that called "using Sticky"?
Because a sprite from Sticky will most likely show up
Sticky is a project to sprite all Gen 7 pokemon in Gen 5 style
its not a "who gets ideas the fastest" comp ๐ im just announcing that i too have ideas :y
Oh, I do have a bunch of gen VI fan sprites saved, it might be from that project.
Isaac, take notes!
or maybe even just a minute 
and see how bad quality sprites there will be
Sad reminder of the death of Nicholas Parsons.
Who's that?
@mild furnace you wanna do a time limit sprite fite with me ๐
It's on ๐
@quartz locust
Not that he was Blaquaza. ๐
Just that Blaquaza can inform you.
I was wrong, I must've gotten them from a different sprite project.
Isaac just doxxed Blaquaza ๐
blaq is dead ๐ญ
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I half doxxed him the other day.
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Then I won't ban you for 24 hours. โค๏ธ

Wow, this Sticky sprite is so much better than the one I had.
so here's one concept I have going lmao
basically I'm trying to base a fusion off the remembrall from harry potter
its a glass orb that produces red mist inside whenever you've forgotten something
Thatโs the opposite of forgetting something 
I will make a forgotten character from a video game franchise
And itโs going to be a character I was already going to make a sprite of๏ฟผ
I love it
Fingers isn't a forgotten character, even if you do call him "Knuckles".
Itโs not a Sonic character, though maybe Mighty or Ray would actually work
I want to use chandelure for it because it has the hollow glass body
havent fully fleshed out the other component
koffing or weezxing maybe
oo that could work yeah
you were faster
Quickest draw in the west
Who's Nicholas Parsons? ๐ฎ
Damn it I thought the ping was because I won the sponsored draw.
Also that was a great final! ๐
Personally my least favourite sprite did win, it's no surprise to anyone who knows me but super big for the the hell of it sprites aren't my favourite and the Dynamax ones encapsulate that way more than Mammuth's ever did. ๐ฆ
But that doesn't make it a bad sprite because the design outside of the size was impeccable. ๐
For forgotten I'm thinking of combining some forgettable Pokรฉmon (if I do actually make a sprite), like Stantler and Corsola maybe. ๐
Nicholas bloody Parsons, host of radio 4 show Just A Minute and star of Mr Jolly Lives Next Door.
Blaquaza you embarrass me.
I have no clue what either of those things are, but I'm sad that he's no longer with us. ๐ฆ
I only really listened to Smooth and Magic. Some Radio 4 stuff in school but that was it. ๐
Next you'll be telling me you've never seen Trumpton.
You may be older than me physically, but I'm clearly older in spirit. 
I've never heard of Trumpton. ๐ข
Are you actually from Britain?
I was very much a cartoon child, Simpsons, SpongeBob, Sonic X, things that don't begin with s. ๐
Let's start small.
Who is forgetting corsola
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Have you heard of David Mitchell?
Of course I've heard of David Mitchell. ๐
I wrote a piece of original writing in A-level in his style. ๐
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His style being dry and repressed? ๐
Exactly. ๐
Do you watch Only Connect?
No but I did watch a show with a very similar premise called The Link and loved it, I only just found out about Only Connect from my flatmate. His wife hosts it, right? ๐
She does. That's the small connection I tried to make.
So so far the one piece of evidence you have for being British is:
Has heard of David Mitchell.
I mean I used to watch Balamory as a kid and loved it. When I was 3 my mum made me a replica of the place out of colourful sponge. ๐
My girlfriend looks like Archie from Balamory.
Iโm offended.
I've been told I do too. ๐
You do not.
Ah well, at least someone can be offended with me. ๐
Sorry Blaquaza, you just aren't as Miles Jupp as my girlfriend. 
After the past few days I'm genuinely frightened you know what I look like. ๐
You feel like the sort of person who should wear glasses and who has long hair which he claims is because he can't be bothered cutting it but is actually somewhat of a stylistic choice.
Or maybe I'm projecting.
You're scarily right, though the reason it's long is because I don't like ears.
And I actually do wear glasses.
I also don't like ears.
What is going on? 
Do you actually just look exactly like me?
Blaq is Isaacโs girlfriend
He appears to also be me though. 
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I would never name a child David or Joseph.
Isaac 2.0
It would be cruel because David is my middle name.
Unless your name is Cecil I think Isaac is safe.
Isaac is his own girlfriend
Selfmademan
blaquaza face reveal when? ๐ were getting so much foreshadowing, what is the face behind the 
if thats the case then 
I am more of a hat person. Never happy with my hair
๐ we are all wondering blaq
@quartz locust plz
I could probably just post a picture of myself and photoshop glasses onto it and you'd roughly have Blaquaza.
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@tall moss oh yeah kiwi, paypal is being used for the sponsored contest prizes, right?
i believe so, thats how i gave BTA the money at least, maybe you can work something out with him if you dont have paypal, idk
oh yeah I almost forgot about that
guess ill make sure the paypal is setup proper
I assume bta is just sortin out the random selection
Am I allowed to do the same idea for 3 different entries?
Can you enter more than once?
yes
so you're just gonna have mons that learn amnesia for all of your entries?
Thatโs an interesting take
I was gonna make it all pokemon you could lose but the only one i can think of is klefki
I also think iโll fuse 2 mythical Pokรฉmon together as โthe forgotten pastโ
Looks like I'll end up having 3 entries as well, each with a different idea.
Even funnier, I won't be able to send any to the gallery after cause they each contain one pokรฉmon not in IF.
I like themes like this which can be interpreted in many ways
I forgot Bruxish existed
thats probably why you are using it
and maractus is like
the staple of forgotten Pokemon
chose it because I have an idea on how to fuse it with bruxish
I'm also using forgettable pokรฉmon for one of mine, but not maractus or bruxish.
Instead I'm going with finneon and qwilfish.
And yes I just looked up how to spell both of those cause I wasn't sure.
That looks very scarily like one of my friends. ๐
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I know it sounds truly creepy, but I like seeing how people look when you only know them by avatar
โfriendsโ
Cause you have some view in your head on how they look
Is that right? Is it completely wrong
Ah right
Yeah I have quite a deep voice according to some, but not the oldest looking face
So that's always a fun contrast
I can guarantee most of you won't imagine my voice accurately. ๐

You didnt participate in a games night yet right?
I did once but even then I wouldn't use the voice channel. ๐
I know knuckles sounds different then i imagined
Boring, party pooper
Thats the same as not participating
I just saw the GIF of an angry woman, didn't realise it was a political one.
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He either has a super high pitched voice or the deepest voice youll ever hear, thats my guess
His voice is exactly the same as Knuckles' in Sonic X. ๐
Which I am currently rewatching because it's like comfort food.
"Hyuck hyuck it's Blaquaza here"
:hmmmm:
Personally I think Knuckles sounds exactly as expected. He sounds like he could be a YouTuber who does unboxing videos. Or Geometry Dash videos.
I mean I am goofy, but I'm not Goofy. ๐
huh? ๐
The first time I heard your voice I got surprised cause it was super low
All I remember is tene's heavy russian accent
u sure u mean me? ๐
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neither am i russian, nor have ppl explicitly expressed that my voice is deep, well its kinda deep, but not suprisingly deep id say ๐
Ye I remember it like it was yesterday. You were talking about how your bear gave birth and named one of the cubs Isaac
Did those ever happen aside from like 2 times?
We need a third one then๐
sounds.....about right ๐ but u havent mentioned the cool part in which i killed that other bear with my bare hands?
Oh ye. You had to kill the male to assert dominance, duh.
It's been delayed. It was meant to be about a month ago. Should be any day now. ๐
any day
But I'm not allowed to for 12 more hours
any day
doubt
why do we plan those, we could play whenever we want X)
If we don't plan them, Knuckles won't host them. 
Do a games night sprite for the current contest.
Great idea
Not for the current
But give us a theme and let people speed run a Sprite
Thats a fun game night idea
forgotten Stan
is that a necessity? no intention to harm Knux in any form there, as i think theres a clear distinction between an "official" game night, which would need to be hosted and just folks playing
Let Knuckles do the ๐คจ speedrun.
Forgotten theme is s h i t
Why do you need knuckles ๐ someone else host it
@burnt bane dare you to go for it
You host it
no u
You can do both
Because unlike Sonic he doesn't chuckle, he'd rather flex his muscles. ๐
Did you just rhyme?
It's a reference.
It's a reference to what happened 
Why not just call it "Theme Unown"
(I tried to say this yesterday but my internet literally died the moment before I could)
unown classic comp ๐
I thought of another character who would actually be better to represent forgotten, but Iโm not sure what Pokรฉmon to fuse to make him
What is it
Who ?
I'd tell you but I forgot. ๐ข
Hah
As for me, I think I'm on the way to find an idea
I am all out of ideas
I saw people mentioning game night, and I was thinking we could do stuff this weekend, but I didnโt want people to get bored because of just Among Us and scribbl.io
There was an idea of giving us a spriting theme
Jackbox is always an option. Though I think this might be a #spriter-general discussion. ๐
Yeah, we can talk about it in #spriter-general
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Nyooooom
@silver merlin can you explain me the forgotten aspect of your entry? i am stupid. Also @fallow bough deleting my totally legit entry ๐ฆ
The MissingNo part is the forgotten part of my entry
MissingNo is not forgotten, he is missing/scraped out of the game
I classed it as a joke entry due to the invisible thing not making sense like it did with Kecleon/Kecleon.
I know
Forgot to check for the bug. It's whatever the theme means to you. I think it can be justified.
MissingNo is not forgotten, he is missing/scraped out of the game
Fuck it, I'll remove it from the contest.
at this rate theres not gonna be any entries
I have an idea, but I'm to bad to sprite it :/
and the only ones are with MissingNo right now
I have an idea, but I'm to bad to sprite it :/
its "whatever 'forgotten' means to YOU", not whatever forgotten means to other people not getting your entry ๐
Well i'm just protesting the fact theres Darkray but not crecelia on this game
so keep it in katten >:[
ok Kiwi >:]
one of my ideas is this too
ima do sableye/mawile
diads should have been put together
sableye/creselia
its like if you put Articuno and Zapdos but not moltres
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Or Regigigas but none of his underlings.
i wish we had the regis
Maybe it's to make up for Swsh having cresselia but not darkrai.
I second this
gonna send a ditto with a lot of eggs 
thats clever omg
I wanted to send a pokemon box with one pokemon in it, but I can't sprite it;c
Who could I ask for ideas of what Pokemon to use to make a fusion that wouldn't steal my idea?
So, since every sprite in the Dynamax duel between @tall moss @burnt bane and @zenith matrix has only gotten votes from two judges so far, the three have named me the third judge. Judging these sprites kinda sucks when I already know the other votes, because now I'm aware that my decisions decide who wins this ๐
But I tried to ignore all that and just vote how I really feel.
That being said, here are my votes:
Kiwis Venusaur: 8 points. I really really love the design, the pose and the giant flower. The dynamax effect is also perfectly done. What I don't love are the thick legs, as well as the fact that the flower makes up so much of the sprite.
Stans Charizard: 8 points. Compared to your earlier version this one is a step up by 100%! The pose is great and when it comes to pure design itself, this might even be my favorite. I think the other two did a better job with the dynamax colors and shading and are a bit more refined in general.
Tenes Blastoise: 8 points. This one has an amazing design as well and the dynamax effect, especially with the smoke comming out of the cannons is probably as good as it can be. The one thing that stops this sprite from being perfect for me is that the shell on the lower body looks a bit awkward.
So yeah, all in all I pretty much like all the sprites equally, even if for different reasons. That also means that the result won't change, making Tene and Kiwi still the winners. But congrats to all 3 from me โค๏ธ
What fusion would be good to make this?
Ay thanks tomate
Yeah stan your sprite was great, You just had tough competition
granbull magnezone? ๐ค
speaking of the truel ๐
Thats sick
stan made the montage
I had a genius idea
Do whatever fusion you want, then when people ask why just say โi forgotโ
Spriting Duels
Introducing Spriting Duels, a new way to compete with other spriters for glory and useless internet points!
Here is how it works:
Every spriter can challenge any other spriter to a duel. If that other person accepts the duel, you are good to go. How many people participate in a duel is up to you. It can be a 1 vs.1, a 2 vs.2 or even a 1 vs.1 vs.1. Everything is possible!
You then have to decide for 3 people to act as judges for your duel. Anyone can be a judge as long as every duelist is fine with them.. Every judge will give every sprite a score between 0 and 10 and the sprite with the most points wins.
The results of the duel will then be noted down in the sheet you find down below. In that sheet you will also find a ranking system that gives every person that has taken part in a duel a rank. Those numbers will of course update after every duel, so I hope that there will be a constant struggle for the number one spot!
After a duel has been finished, please contact me with the results and I will update the sheet.
When it comes to how to structure your duel, that is up to you. The possibilities are endless. All the duelists can decide on a theme (which can be a certain Pokรฉmon, a broad theme or something very specific) or they can appoint one of the judges to decide on a theme. The time limit is the same. You can either go with a very short duel where there are only a few minutes/hours to sprite, or you can decide that the duel goes on for as long as it takes for every duelist to finish their sprite.
As you can see, how you arrange your duels is compleatly up to you, so I hope everyone has as much fun with this as possible!
Finally, here is the sheet where the results of all the duels and the ranking of every player can be found. Thanks to Tenedranox for setting this up and figuring out the math and thanks to Kiwi for helping me with the design.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F3_O2wM1upD-pnVHF7mIw1WsXRn25TZZ5WAYzbX_zbU/edit#gid=0
Rules
Every spriter can challenge any other spriter to a duel. If that other person accepts the duel, you are good to go. How many people participate in a duel is up to you. It can be a 1 vs.1, a 2 vs.2 or even a 1 vs.1 vs.1. Everything is possible!
You then have to decide for 3 people to act as...
I hope everything works with the Sheet ๐
If these turn out to get popular I will try to get a reward in form of a special role here on discord for whoever is at the top spot.
Challenge me then
i already have a duel with pengu planned
Once it's done challenge me

It feels so easy to rig. Just choose three people you're friends with to be judges and challenge someone with lots of points, then have the judges give you a perfect score and them a 0. A problem that would be fixed with set judges.
Alright, I choose @fallow bough @fallow bough and @fallow bough.
HMM yes i see no problem in that
I think I might win. ๐
I actually have no time to duel though, sadly.
Maybe over the holidays.
I think Knuckles would be a good judge
knuckles was a judge but he didnt do it corectly
He would be if he gave out numbers. 
so we replaced him
YuGiOh intro
thats nightmare fuel
Well, both people have to agree on the judges, so this shouldn't be as easy as you make it sound ๐ ~~
it also should be possible to impugn a decision made by the judges
speaking of which, Tomate didnt made me win 
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Ah yeah that's niceee
@misty acorn a bit akward u say? how should i change it?
So who's up for a challenge
I need redemption after my loss against the scary duo that is kiwi and tene
ooo will be fun to watch duels
btw, im still fiddling with the math, so message me anytime when u dont see fit for the formula in any instance
I think it's the shell between the legs that turns into the tail. It has a bit of a weird angle to it. But I can't put my finger on it perfectly.
But this is really criticism on a very high level
given that i havent won 
id like to improve it
It won't be counted to the points tho
ye ofc, just wanna achieve perfection
i think it might be the white ridges being at an angle ๐ค
too thick?
no no
or the angle of the ridges?
judt the angle yes
might paint over?
You really choose the worst color and then thought hey, I'll also make the lines small af
๐ huh thx
GG kiwi๐ฅ
i kno i forgot to change it back after the last doodle i did ๐
Sigh
happy >8[
gotcha

basically if we see the lines at an angle ot looks like were looking at the side of an ellipse, seein the curve at more of a horizontal angle makes it look more as if were seeing it feom the front or from underneath
Wait do the judges change every duel?
i ment it to wrap angled backwards, but i overdid it
depends on the duelling folks
i hope ill be a judge too at some point
see your elipses are narrow, that conveys something is seen from the side
then ill tackle that when i have time
nah, i wanna refine that until every judge says, thats a 10
there needs to be established a baseline for 10, then someone has to establish a baseline for 0 lol
youll work on this til you die
a zero would be a blank sprite, not even efort
well eventually they call it a 10 so ill finally shut up about asking ๐
Tene you are really shooting for perfection eh?
lower your vote every time he edits his entry ๐
do we need a gigantamax contest?
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no, except if you do it with regigigas
i mean, why not?
missoportunity by nintendo
You have a point
Perfection is an ideology
don't count me in ;,)
wait, to what
To a d-d-d-d-duel of sprites
I propose... A Sunflora duel !
still looking for someone to challenge me ๐
It can be a 1v1v1 for sure
yeah, join in
@burnt bane I challenge you too then
1v1v1??
i believe i never made a sunflora, so a great oportunity indeed
Am i the judge again?
Yeah, I prefer to start with a simple one
fair
With Keksola and Tomate?
yeah who are we gonna chooce to be the judges
No idea 
spleens, keks and tomate seems fine
Let's-a ping them
I can judge too
@lime latch @misty acorn i see some potential judges, you 2 and spleens??
I judge everyone
okay i take that back, not sure if i wanna take on 2 at the same time already
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awesome
if you ever need a 2v2 think of me (I have a lot of ideas and concept that pop out of my head, I just can't do them X) )
For sure !
24 hours again?
Actually, since I was a judge already, I'll gladly give up my place for Universez, if that is okay for everyone
I'd say, when everyone finished, as long as you're still active on this
24 hours is too short, when everyone is finished seems too long
2 hours.
36 hours?
48 hours ?
Sounds good to me
working allready
@craggy galleon what fits best for you
Who did you judge
tene, kiwi and me
If the deadline is that long
meh lets do 24 hours?
Just ping me when i have to judge
I jumped in for Knuckles, since a duel needs 3 people giving votes
24 hours works for me
But the result didn't change 
i'm free till monday so dont care
You werent in the groupchat
Doesnt count
Looks short, but hey it's a duel
I'm ok with 24h
thats actually not true, whilst u have given everyone an equal amount of points, the ratio between us an Stan has changed by 5%
I feel like I'm really going to do a 2v2 at some point (but I'm pretty sure no one wants to work with me X,D)
True, but I mean in terms of who won
alright then, sunflora contest between blackboots, skeleton and me starts now, ends in 24 hours, with keksola, tomate and spleens as judges ๐ค
๐ค
Arright ! 
and i was just going to start on some other sprites 
Good luck to you two
You don't. I do 
good luck guysss
22 Pm on a saturday as end?
ah fair
as Tomate has resigned, whos gonna be the third judge?
well, in theory Kiw and I can do it too
did he officially resign?
in theory everyone can do it ๐
except me, blackboots and skeleton ofc
He resigned and gave a place to someone else in the same message. 
"Actually, since I was a judge already, I'll gladly give up my place for Universez, if that is okay for everyone"
kinda id say
XD
and here i was
Everyone can judge
i thought tomate was only suggesting it lol
You can be a judge if you want
j..judge us
or do i have to say which i like the best
no you give all 3 sprites a score from 1-10
give each sprite a score between 0-10
and explain a bit why
10 being apperently absolute god level perfection
Yep
Yeah
Some sprites actually are absolute perfection
๐ which ones
the one you judged
In other other words: Don't give Tene a 10 just to stress him out 
If I challenged Blackboots it's also because his pic is my favorite fusion so far 
@crude cedar You can read the pin to know what exactly you have to do, but they basically told you everything already
We have to form a gc
Should you think โwow, nobody can reach a higher level of perfection, i would pay to see that spriteโ thats 10/10
was smth like this ever made?
some mamuth ones
Not on my watch
guys im done 
I still very much have a problem with that style of fusing.
Gorgeous. โค๏ธ
Shroom has flower friend. ๐
flower friends
I think I agree. There are probably sprites I would have given a 10/10, but none I would have given a 100/100 if you get what I mean
10/10 is equal to 100/100
I think bigbrain Slowking is a 100/100 sprite. And it got voted out in the first round. ๐ญ
But I get what you mean
But if something was a 96/100 for me, I would have to give it a 10/10
shroomish diglett was 101/100 and it didnt get far either 
ill just get from that, dont put that extra effort in, to try to even go above 8 ๐
We've literally been one duel so far, so it was very hard to decide on a number. I could have just as well given avery sprite a 9 ๐
^
they were all solid 9s to me too tbh
they all have small minor flaws but theyre just that, minor
Thats why you are not judging kiwi :p
mmm venusaur steak
all...that... m e a t
thats a vegetarian meal right
I wonder what that would taste like
Also, i say that the scale changes depending on the participants...
We had 3 good and high quality sprites in the testrun.
A duel between people on my level could have a 9/10 thats not comparable to kiwis or tenes sprite
I would love to be a judge in the future. I like to judge sprites, not make them. ๐
Although I also love to make them when I'm not burned out and busy.
idk keks, i would expect judges to give like 6 or 7s at most if every duelist was an amateur spriter
its how id judge anyway ๐ค
for the calcs it wont make much of a diff, its only about relation between spriters, giving half points is even adviced
But stans sprite would look better compared to mine then compared to one of yours
the question is wheither u judge all the sprites in comparison or each seperately
that should be smth the judges decide before
Its always subjective anyway
damn only kiwi and tene are mentioned 
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keep reading stan
still 

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rip
Stan gets 0/10 no matter what he sprites ๐
Keksola will remember that
Keksola always remembers until he forgets
w h y?
this
well damn
dont give Knuckles ideas!
Okay that's my three entries.
Also I reacted to the pinned message days ago and still don't have the contest role.
The bot might be down. I gave your the role
Thanks.
okay i'm done. pin me when you are finished
Oh, people are already dueling, that was fast.
The moment someone says Duel i can hear this:
If it cannot hatch from its shell, the chick will die without ever truly being born. We are the chick; the world is our egg. If we don't break the world's shell, we will die without truly being born. Smash the world's shell, for the Revolution of the World.
eh?
It just makes me think of Yugioh.
Same
