when we do the contest judging stuff, will the brackets be broken down by region?
#event-general
bright elk
umbral rune
@umbral rune anyway, this is correct. Would you like me to rectify it? 👀
@fallow bough
bright elk
sorry if youve said before, im not online much
umbral rune
whoops, didn't mean to send
fallow bough
There will be an initial bracket of all entries, to determine an overall winner. Then to determine the winners of each other generation (if such a thing is unclear from results) each generation will have a small set of brackets.
umbral rune
what I wanted to say was, if you want to, then yes. It should be fair/equal in this sense, instead of being random, which is kind of what it seems like right now
fallow bough
It's not random so much as it is that Scrapi has been warned several times.
bright elk
Ill take my 24 hour ban in the name of fairness
umbral rune
Ok, Scrapi may have been warned, but I feel like in other cases where this has happened, it has seemed pretty random
bright elk
off to the distortion world I go
fallen adder
No I am Spartacus!
fallow bough
Ok, Scrapi may have been warned, but I feel like in other cases where this has happened, it has seemed pretty random
@umbral rune ||That's what happens when there's only one mod||
I mean what
umbral rune
I mean, tbf there are really only two mods that are pretty active
bright elk
to be fair knuckles breaks up arguments, he just doesnt punish people
also I believe we are in the wrong channel 
quartz locust
I think I made a specific complaint about someone recently and they never got day-banned, but I might be remembering wrong because the days all blur into each other at this point. 😂
shadow holly
Wait so if I complain about Isaac, do you ban yourself?
Anyways I have no Idea what Scrapi did but I guess it is the mods Decision
ashen star
^ exactly
wheat socket
i think this is first and last time that i make triple fusion.. i just will try to make triple kanto fusion then stop..I don't want to receive all this criticism anymore...it's frustrating.
ashen star
dude imagine everyone else feels
wheat socket
no, the others did not receive as many bad reactions as I did, and with me the criticisms went very heavy
nova nebula
with mammuth, his two-pokemon fusions are as complex as three-pokemon fusions
ashen star
they're just assholes
nova nebula
and so the three-pokemon fusion stacks so many details on you can't see any of them
ashen star
instead of saying a way to improve they react negatively
nova nebula
it doesn't mea nhis sprites are bad, perse
ashen star
they're cowards imo
nova nebula
it's just that there is... so much.
wheat socket
dude is triple fusion..
wheat socket
and sinnoh starters have complicated design to..
nova nebula
i mean mammuth's sprite is still better than like half the other sprites
it's just got so much... everything added on
ashen star
majority of the others
nova nebula
like, i could see the wood roots idea on a single fusion
or the heated wings
or the cloud tree?
but all of that on one, plus everything else i've missed
:(
ashen star
I guess you could say that
but people react negatively without any regard for how the person might feel
and no one gives any form of help
nova nebula
it's sprited and shaded competently
fallen adder
Ima throw this out there. for gen 4 someone could totally do a fusion where the planet is implemented. three elements plus torterra's terrain 
nova nebula
but a lot of "fixing" it would mean a complete resprite lol
ashen star
thats a good idea ang
nova nebula
that's a nice idea :V
ashen star
I was thinking of doing torterra body with a waterfall, volcano and maybe a miniforest
ashen star
yeah something like segments
lofty aurora
guys I cracked the code for the win of the contest
see, you have
INfernape
torTErra
empoLEON]
just sub inteleon you'll win
past osprey
lol
charred crescent
ofc mammuths sprite could be revised some, but its still the best sprite that was submited so far. theres a few other good ones but the majority of them looks like a jumbled mess. at least mammuth knows how to pick elements from each fusee that work well together compared to those. @wheat socket ppl are just salty dont let it get to you
past osprey
honestly I think the objective best sprite so far is Jamo's
also I feel like mammuth got too mad over that criticism. Half of it wasn't even rude just constructive criticism. Every artist gets shit it's just something that we have to get used to and deal with accordingly. The difference between criticism and harrashment has to be noticed though since both are very different but can be mixed together. Not every piece of criticism is some form of harrasment.
Plus the reason that it got more criticism than the other submissions is because Mammuth is regarded by many as the best spriter in the server. So when people see something wrong with it they'll be more clear to point it out and expect more of Mammuth.
I get that it can be a bit much but it's something that a person gets used to
Also dispelling an arguement by saying that someone is just jealous, salty, or a hater/asshole when they give criticism to a sprite is kinda like tooting your own horn and ignoring the criticism. Criticism leads to growth and ignoring it hurts your growth more than it helps.
charred crescent
when I scrolled up I couldn't find said "criticism" anymore. I just got a notion over the past months that there is an amount of people on this server that get salty over mammuth winning contests and try to convince people that his sprites aren't really that good because of that
wind topaz
It’s unexpected, but it seems mammuth hates any negative feedback
He always lashes out when people don’t like his sprites
past osprey
yeah the guy is clearly skilled but I think all the fame has gotten into his head
I mean he got salty when ONE of his sprites didnt make it to the semi finals of last contest
I don't dislike the guy I just wished he took criticism better
past osprey
it still happens
fallen adder
Doesn't mean we need to live with it though
past osprey
I'm not saying that it should be encouraged but it's impossible to stop it forever
also when I meant shit I just meant peoople not liking your sprite not just someone being rude about it
umbral rune
Exactly, its kind of annoying when someone of his skill level gets pissed off because of something stupid. People are allowed to have opinions
fallen adder
also when I meant shit I just meant peoople not liking your sprite not just someone being rude about it
@past osprey gotcha
charred crescent
People are allowed to have opinions
@umbral rune eww
umbral rune
opinions 🤮
charred crescent
the problem is that people sometimes have trashy ill-informed opinions 
jagged shell
oPiNiOnS aRe OfFeNsiVe
Shit, I might've messed up the line, actually, some really are offensive
past osprey
I just think that Mammuth is a bit too used to having his 🍑 💋 that when he gets some semblance of general dislike he gets aggresive
charred crescent
the only times I did see mammuth get shit on it was just for the sake of shitting on his sprites
so from my perspective I can understand him getting upset
past osprey
well there are other examples
umbral rune
Yeah, but there was a time where he got pissed off because one of his sprites didn't win
past osprey
these are some of my earlier criticism
I really can't be bothered to look for other's people criticism
charred crescent
I thought that myself at one point and then I went back and checked to find that he usually sticks to the common 3tones+outline colors like they are in the base sprites. he just tries to get more out of it tbh
past osprey
A lot of higher level spriters including mammuth abuse the lightest shade
it isn't meant to be used everywhere it's meant to highlight the lighest points in a sprite
fallen adder
I mean. What do you honestly think what you are currently doing is?
ashen star
g e t o n s p r i t e w o r k > : (
past osprey
I'm just giving criticism
ashen star
give me criticism please
spritework hasnt been active at all recently and its really irritating
fallen adder
To who? They aren't even here right now.
past osprey
I just needed to vent
I've seen that this has been going on for a while and I just wanted to get it out there
ashen star
can you not give me criticisms?
past osprey
I get that he isn't online but I still hope he sees this
KJ you need to mature
there we go 😉
past osprey
yeah sure I can do that
ashen star
ty
umbral rune
can you stop complaining because people don't give criticism
just because you posted at a time thats a bit later for everyone and not a whole ton of people are on, doesn't mean you should keep being annoying about it
charred crescent
bad luck that the majority of the active community is european
umbral rune
yeah, and even then, people have other things to do
crude cedar
@past osprey there bigger offenders with over shading
Cough cough... That one absol just some time ago....
quartz locust
Ima throw this out there. for gen 4 someone could totally do a fusion where the planet is implemented. three elements plus torterra's terrain :blathersnodsmugdance:
@fallen adder I had an idea kinda like that, but going down more of a hellish planet route with rivers of fire and burning trees. 😄
restive rose
Hah I see you guys were talking about criticism/overconfidence (kinda)
quartz locust
the only times I did see mammuth get shit on it was just for the sake of shitting on his sprites
so from my perspective I can understand him getting upset
@charred crescent I don't necessarily agree, I've given him feedback a couple of times because I really do believe some of them are overdesigned. It's obviously an aesthetic preference on my end but I like fusions to look like they could feasibly be Pokémon. 😅
restive rose
That’s why I always have doubts about everything I do
I will never let myself get overconfident
quartz locust
Whereas last week my criticism consisted of people calling me a thief, a recolourer and saying my sprite was trash because of that and it really hurt. There's a difference between that and "I personally think your fusion is a little bit overdesigned, but on a technical level it's phenomenal" which is usually what I say to Mammuth. 😂
restive rose
I always go to sprite work because I know whatever I do can be improved on. Honestly I feel bad for the amount of times I post a sprite just for one little edit
quartz locust
It's good that you're so receptive to criticism and wanting to improve though. I feel the same way, even if sometimes I reach the limit where I'm like "that's it, I can't bear to look at it any more". 😂
How else can we improve if we don't at least listen to constructive criticism? 😅
restive rose
I don’t mind criticism as long as you’re not a dick about it
That one encounter with beespoon
are you writing an essay Tenedranox?
quartz locust
I don’t mind criticism as long as you’re not a dick about it
Same here, there's being constructive and then there's "it looks awful, terrible sprite". Tell me what's terrible and I'll try fixing it. 😂
zenith matrix
i still consider @wheat socket to be the best spriter, hes shading is always on point, on the other hand @fiery river is imo equally good in shading, while having another style
mammuth does very complex compositions, mostly amazing, Jamo on the other hand is lacking there a bit, some stuffs a bit odd, basically they are spriting in another style for a different game, if u get what i mean
@thorny saddle and @pastel fog on the other hand usually go with less complex compositions and are very true to the pkmn style
that said about those who i consider the best, i cant help but to point out that Mammuth has overdone it, i can understand trying to get better and fancier, but while the sprite is on a technical standpoint absolutely ludcriously well done, its overall too noisy to the point of unreadable
i think all those i mentioned should learn from each other, Mammuth should learn to tune it down a bit for readability, Jamo to get closer to the pkmn style and Milchik and Cali should try to be a bit more experimental
well ofc all under the premise that each of them wants to make sprites for winning the contest, i by no means are trying to speak down their work, but thats at least what i think seperates them from winning the contests
zenith matrix
are you writing an essay Tenedranox?
i guess ye 😅
quartz locust
I completely agree with you, everyone has their own different styles and it's fun to try and diverge a little by learning from everyone else's successes. 🙂
zenith matrix
in order to win the contests u have to walk a fine line, i managed to strike it twice, its complexity paired with readability and skill
when u mix those three ingredients well uve got a win, thats what mammuth has been doing, just this time around the complexity portion was a bit high and therefor the readability is lowered and the skill cloaked a little, but yet again, to make it clear, its amazing work
i cant tell whos winning this now tho, especially because ppl tend to not vote for mammuth because its "overdue", just dropping my fair share on the matter why i think the objectively best made sprite culd potentially not win
thorny saddle
Ty for the mention, tenedranox, but yeah i can see where youre coming from with pushing myself further with fusion designs
quartz locust
I think from a technical level Mammuth's is the best, but in terms of aesthetic and readability I really like Jamo's, Beespoon's, Calicorn's and Xillo's a lot more because they feel a bit more Pokémon-esque if that makes sense. 😄
zenith matrix
to make it clear, i dont want u to change, but tell u what might seperate u from winning against mammuth atm
restive rose
Which trio has the least amount of sprites?
quartz locust
I think Sinnoh. 🙂
quartz locust
Hoenn and Sinnoh are tied for 5. 😄
fiery river
Ok, now im confused about this ”pokemon style”. I feel like there are so many sprites that really doesnt fit in that category and some of my sprites are not even close to that 😂😅
ashen star
jamo i dont think any of your sprites are in the pokemon style
thorny saddle
It might be in reference to shading and design elements for a sprite?
ashen star
they're unique
thorny saddle
But yea i try to keep my sprites looking like they could be in the games usually
quartz locust
I think it's something people see differently. To me it's two things; one is the design itself being readable and relatively easy to understand (even if complex), and the other is the actual spriting style matching the Pokémon sprites, and by that I primarily mean the Gen V ones because that's the one I work with. 🙂
zenith matrix
i cant hit the style 🤷♂️ the only sprite of mine ill consider coming close to it was the Gliscor/Mantine and i really had to try hard to do so
quartz locust
Like Sjoba's Mantine / Meganium; a really clever concept that was well-executed and looked like it could have been a Pokémon. 😄
restive rose
I don’t really have a style I guess..?
zenith matrix
u have kyurem
quartz locust
I think one main factor of sprites looking less like Pokémon-style sprites is an overuse of shades, primarily a highlight shade. BW sprites don't really use highlights that much (with most Gen V Pokémon not even having any). That's where I think Jamo's falters a little. 😅
restive rose
I sometimes go crazy with just one small feature from Kyurem and it’s the yellow thingies
zenith matrix
cough i dont know what u mean cough
zenith matrix
btw Okami, u should do more stuff along the veins of the custom entei u (we) did
restive rose
I should
zenith matrix
i dont have many sprites, just takes me so frcking long, search the gallery for my stuff
restive rose
I liked doing that custom Entei
ashen star
okay
ashen star
I may make a custom flygon
zenith matrix
i feel like deleting that feral/ray, it was so rushed and bad...
restive rose
You could redo it 
zenith matrix
gimme the time to do so
ashen star
i love that animation O.0
zenith matrix
kinda, i did a 6fps animation and interpolated it with DAIN, an AI for interpolating animation and video to a higher framerate, thats why its in crisp 24fps
pastel fog
thanks for the criticism about experimenting Tenedranox 👀
I'll try something new in my future sprites
pastel fog
no idea what but I'll figure it out
thorny saddle
It can be hard to experiment with designs tbh 🤔 it all really just depends on the fusion
zenith matrix
i should mention it again:
my critic was less so a critic on ur stuff, but a try to analyse what seperates u from winning against mammuth
tene, I think most if not all of your sprites are good
thx, i try to make everything well i do, except that feral/ray....that was rushed
ashen star
Yeah I mess up perspectives a lot :/
I think just extending a few pixels would do amazing things for the sprite
wheat socket
the fact is that I have always used my style, like when I use it in the fusion of 2 pokemon, but obviously in the fusion of 3 pokemon it does not work well, too many details I know. I tried and I failed 🙂 then I would like to say something .. I don't think I don't accept criticism, but I can't stand the way they do it towards me, it's very different, since it's the first time I try a complex triple fusion. some have been really toxic, like pip for example. and @past osprey , I don't like the fact that you said fame went to my head, if I do fusion it's not for fame, but for the game basically, and because I just like it. yes it is true sometimes I felt bad when I did not win some contests, and I apologize for that, the fact is that it takes me hours to make my fusion and I like it when my efforts pay off, however I will try to be more sporty and I will accept more suggestions on my possible mistakes of my fusion.
pastel fog
speaking of sprites, I should start spriting my sinnoh sea turtle notmonkey already
it's time to die while spriting the sinnoh region 😎
zenith matrix
pls dont die
wheat socket
for sure yout version is better of mine
quartz locust
You've got a tough task ahead of you, but I think you can pull it off! 🙂
The calibre of entries for this contest has been great so far. 😄
pastel fog
I hope so! :"D
yea this contest is super epic
so many different ways to fuse 3 things
I adore it
quartz locust
I hate it, I've found out I'm woefully uncreative. 😦
pastel fog
I can really say that it's super difficult to fuse more than 2 mons
pastel fog
true
restive rose
pastel fog
and things like 3 reptiles are easier to fuse than monkey, pinguin, and turtoise
lmao
restive rose
They can turn out pretty cool
Oh yea, fusing three totally different Pokemon can be hard
pastel fog
also, there's no head + body
restive rose
I always thought of it as head+body+minor details
pastel fog
hm I think I can make the canvas 300 pixels wide instead of 288?
wheat socket
and things like 3 reptiles are easier to fuse than monkey, pinguin, and turtoise
@pastel fog absolutely what I was thinking too
pastel fog
will it look crappy in the game?
restive rose
might wanna just stick to 288 just in case
quartz locust
It'll be cut off, yeah. 😦
zenith matrix
id kinda wanna see that fusion without the torterra part 🤔
pastel fog
I think I'll just make it's tail rock thingy smaller
hm
I already have blaziken/swampert request
lmao
zenith matrix
the shell feels slapped on while the infernape and empoleon parts are super naturally tied together
restive rose
Maybe the tail could wrap around?
zenith matrix
should I do infernape/empoleon after that?
more so the reverse isnt it?
restive rose
That might give you space
zenith matrix
ye u could try to tilt the body so its belly is showing, more so from a side view
guess we need contest-spriting lol
pastel fog
Maybe the tail could wrap around?
maybe, I just wanted it to be lifted cuz of Infernape's monley tail
quartz locust
Ignore the truly terrible drawing, I was scrawling down ideas for a potential Sinnoh fusion and wondered if this was any good? 🙂
pastel fog
oh that looks fun
quartz locust
It's a river of lava and a burning tree. 😅
quartz locust
Yerah that one looks waybetter. 😄
restive rose
What’s the difference??
quartz locust
The other one was more vertically stretched I think. 😅
thick atlas
blaquaza, not enough of the penguin-pokemon i guess
quartz locust
Yeah I was figuring out how to add more, I'd probably change the beak and maybe do crystals on the right and flames on the left for a sort of fire vs water type of thing perhaps? 🙂
thick atlas
maybe each leg gets a plate like the wings of that pengiun?
but then the ornaments might be too much
pastel fog
yea, the tip of it's tail looks more up so the whole sprite isn't than wide
so I can make it bigger
and bigger the sprite = easier detailing process is
quartz locust
maybe each leg gets a plate like the wings of that pengiun?
That was the plan with the yellow bits, I just forgot how they looked on Empoleon. 😂
lapis dust
All the current submissions are so excellent.
quartz locust
I'm just about to submit mine, you may be proven wrong soon enough. 😅
crude cedar
http://www.strawpoll.me/20769661 made a lil stawpoll of almost all non legendary single stage pokemon not in the game ( as many as strawpoll would let me .... ) maybe the results may help the winner decide. if i win id take the one that will win in this strawpoll. but i bet i wont
@fallow bough could you pin the strawpoll as it might be usefull ?
fallow bough
http://www.strawpoll.me/20769661 made a lil stawpoll of almost all non legendary...
Don't rig it.
nova nebula
relicanth
jagged shell
That's extremely easy for me to do but I'm not gonna because that's douchey
crude cedar
please dont rig it .. its ment to be honest to see what the majority would like
crude cedar
i myself am probally the only one that voted and will vote audino B)
nova nebula
audino is cool... but not that cool 😔
crude cedar
yeee
normal nebula
no mimikyu option
crude cedar
isnt he beeing added anyways soon ?
normal nebula
idk is that info even known anywhere?
normal nebula
oh okay
bold barn
boy is it fun to post that/see that get posted every 5 minutes because 1 person didnt know
past osprey
I'm just hyoed for deoxys
ashen star
Fuck deoxsys
normal nebula
its a good list. here doesnt seem like the best place to discuss it though.
ashen star
I hate spriting that stupid tentacle alien
its a good list. here doesnt seem like the best place to discuss it though.
@normal nebula yes it is the winner get to chose
normal nebula
winner probably already has their own preference
umbral rune
that list isn't confirmed
umbral rune
"This is the list I was considering for the new pokemon"
he never said he planned to add them, only that he considered it, plus he said that it was "still up for changes"
ashen star
But a new Pokémon is gaurenteed because look at the wording in the sentence
umbral rune
He said before that he was considering adding new pokemon though
solar garden
Chatot gang
charred crescent
I hope that list changes, because I can't believe that we're gonna waste 6 of those 30 spaces with preevos
fallen adder
To be fair it's pretty nice to have a nice evo fusion transition
compact saddle
no
charred crescent
if any of them were at least a potential eviolite user but why those
fallen adder
past osprey
I love having evolution transitions
I don't use legendaries becase they dont evolve and I dont get that rewarding feeling
charred crescent
I wouldn't mind them if the number of Pokemon that can be added weren't limited, but they are so maybe preevos are a terrible priority
compact saddle
^
compact saddle
you're not satisfying
past osprey
that's why I didn't like fusion generation
compact saddle
past osprey
thats not what your mom told me last night
compact saddle
oof
fallen adder
oof
charred crescent
oof
charred crescent
democracy was a bad idea
compact saddle
^
compact saddle
no
fallen adder
Prevos are also good for less complicated chill sprites
charred crescent
you are part of the problem Soup 
solar garden
Yes
past osprey
More pre evos plz
vast jay
^ considering the poll's result I actually am considering adding more prevos instead of a few of the Pokemon I originally planned tbh
charred crescent
🚮
compact saddle
frogman is on the wrong side
quartz locust
The real question is, which ones would be included? 🙂
Please God not Klink, Klinklang is bad enough.
charred crescent
feebass 😂
charred crescent
if you have to add preevos then take the worst ones
vast jay
No clue. And it does feel a bit pointless to add prevos while adding more fully evolved Pokemon without their prevos at the same time
charred crescent
you could also just ignore the polls and add whatever you want to add 
quartz locust
Yeah I used to be team prevo, but I think I've swapped over now. 😅
past osprey
I want prevos!
vast jay
I think I'll just add a bunch of prevos without their final evolutions instead. That seems like a fair compromise.
😈
ashen star
p r e v o s !
vast jay
I lowkey hope whoever wins chooses something stupid like silcoon
compact saddle
can we kill frog
ashen star
yes
past osprey
I'm glad that Frogman wont deny me of a troll mon if I win
ashen star
can we kill frog
thats a mute 👀
compact saddle
careless enough? nah
past osprey
Yeah I love from
charred crescent
I lowkey hope whoever wins chooses something stupid like silcoon
@vast jay pretty sure mammuth wants Tyrunt not silcoon 👀
ashen star
i doubt he will win this one
there have been a lot of harsh critiques on his sprites recently
vast jay
Tyrunt is a decent pick honestly.
past osprey
I am trying my hardest to win
ashen star
I feel poeple only want to win because they have the power to add a pokemon
vast jay
It's just 1 mon though so if you guys pick a prevo it won't evolve
past osprey
Exactly
ashen star
I feel people wouldnt try as hard if it were just for the title
compact saddle
ok kj
charred crescent
I hope their choice just goes void when they pick something you already wanted to add
fallen adder
I need to start work on a triple fusion so I can add silcoon
fallen adder
y
ashen star
thats 2 weeks to make 1-3 fusions
ashen star
:/
charred crescent
frogman just calls it off and decides to not add any pokemon anyway
compact saddle
id rather have that than someone add a prevo
past osprey
I'd be crestfallen
ashen star
scrap what do you want to add then?
compact saddle
opinion wont be shared
umbral rune
can't wait for the winner to pick something stupid, I mean I know I can't really complain because its not like Im actually entering, Im just saying, its gonna be stupid
quartz locust
That's a funny way of spelling Appletun, Scrapi. 😛
charred crescent
I want Sableye
compact saddle
i dont choose brain damaged mon
quartz locust
Even though it can't be added. :'(
jagged shell
That's a funny way of saying Mega Mawile
jagged shell
Mega mawile is technically within the rules' choices for the winner
compact saddle
im only gonna say it in dms to those who i think wouldnt annoy me by responding
lol
ashen star
whats the point of dm if you dont want a response
jagged shell
I got it, so now I can flex on you ¯_(ツ)_/¯
compact saddle
i know who'se response wont be annoying
thats why dm
if i say it here it will be annoying for sure
cause you are here
ashen star
ok bitch
quartz locust
But what about poor Seviper? 😦
past osprey
Seviper finally got overtaken by zangoose
ashen star
both are bad
compact saddle
no u
charred crescent
I could live with zangoose tbh
quartz locust
I like Seviper way more because of the anime. 😂
charred crescent
its ability is a trash version of guts but its still interesting enough
ashen star
I want sawsbuck to be added
there would be so many cool designs based on the world
uh
seasons
compact saddle
kk
past osprey
People are going to start voting for people based on what pokemon they are going to add
umbral rune
yeah
quartz locust
I hope it doesn't get political like that, it'd really cheapen the contest. 😦
umbral rune
I mean, something as important as this, its bound to happen
and, I know if someone happened to be adding a certain pokemon if they won, and it was one I liked, I probably would vote for them because of it
quartz locust
But then it's not about the sprite so it really makes the contest moot. :/
It may as well be a Strawpoll on which Pokémon we want to add. 😢
umbral rune
Well, there really isn't anything you can do to prevent that
Maybe the new pokemon shouldn't have been decided like this, since it is kinda unfair
quartz locust
Same here. 🙂
umbral rune
imo, I don't like any of the pokemon that have been really considered for being added, so I might just vote for the best sprite
past osprey
Cool
past osprey
Thay doesn't exist
ashen star
It’s alr in...
umbral rune
dunsparce is bad
quartz locust
umbral rune
D:
quartz locust
Next time I want to do a comedy class I'll avoid paying the fees and ask you for a crash course instead. 😂
ashen star
I think it’s just my morbid sense of humor
If you said dunsparce died or sum shit it would’ve been funny to me
🙂
umbral rune
thats just stupid
sleek drum
Can 8 gen Pokémon that are on the site be added?
ashen star
I don’t think so
wind topaz
No
You have to pay money for those ones anyways
Which is just stupid because they’re just using other peoples sprites and swapping the colors and some body parts
quartz locust
Which is shitty considering I made some of those sprites and know the people who made the others. 😠
We asked them to take them down (or at least stop asking for money) and they never did. 😦
sleek drum
You have to pay money for those ones anyways
@wind topaz I was trying to say the ones that are free like corviknight and Duraludon.
wind topaz
Still no
sleek drum
ok
ashen star
Or we could just make our own
compact saddle
no
ashen star
i wonder why you were brought into the conversation?
just for unnecessary sarcasm as per usual
wheat socket
I don't win, but IF I win and choose Tyrunt, is Tyrantrum included too?
wheat socket
oh ok
past osprey
wheat socket
I had not read, okay
nova nebula
please don't pick a pre evo
so many new players will ask how to evolve it
along with all the other stupid stuff that gets asked
wheat socket
cute
compact saddle
no u
past osprey
I honestly just thought that the concept of a Zangbone killing a seviper and using it's corpse as a weapon
compact saddle
can i use your corpse
ashen star
Cubone?
crude cedar
Cubone/zangoose/seviper
brazen pawn
Seviper isnt there in this region so what would it kill
dusk schooner
They killed all the Seviper so that's why they all have Seviper bone armour
wind topaz
I think he was trying to make a joke
Zangoose asking Seviper if he can use his corpse as a weapon
past osprey
ah
bright elk
honestly I think you should pick a pre-evo just to annoy people
🙂
give in to the dark side of the pixels
shadow holly
Pick like Wimpod
lime latch
honestly I think you should pick a pre-evo just to annoy people
@bright elk middle evo
wind topaz
Only if it’s Chansey
lime latch
That doesnt make sense
wind topaz
It does, because Chansey with Eviolite is better than Blissey
dusk schooner
I think what they meant is that Chansey is already in the game
wind topaz
Yeah, add a second Chansey
dusk schooner
Shiny Chansey
wind topaz
No, the same Chansey
dusk schooner
Actually nvm don't add shiny chansey
lapis dust
I hope something with a unique appearance gets added, Like Cofagrigus.
wind topaz
I'd like Altaria or Hawlucha probably
lapis dust
The X/Y Fossil types are pretty cool too..but it would be weird to get one without the other
Altaria would be cool
wind topaz
And without prevos
compact saddle
my pick would be too controversial to be made public 
lapis dust
What've you got in mind?
compact saddle
yes
i'll only say that my only non-legendary pick would be cofagrigus or hydreigon
dusk schooner
You're definitely gonna pick Verizion, your favourite legendary
lapis dust
Hydreigon could make for a lot of amusing fusions..
compact saddle
You're definitely gonna pick Verizion, your favourite legendary
Ok Keldeo fan
compact saddle
geno you high?
dusk schooner
There was a list that had Cofagrigus and Hydreigon I think
compact saddle
well thats not poggers
lapis dust
If they're planned then I'll be delighted.
dusk schooner
They're still subject to change
compact saddle
i'd add garbodor then, if thats not in the list
lapis dust
The only thing to fuse Garbodor with is Bidoof.
compact saddle
or even conkeldurr
and hey dont talk like that about my favorites of their respective type
lol
past osprey
if I added a gen 5 legend, I'd add Cobalion
compact saddle
what the fuck geno
past osprey
He's an awesome goat
past osprey
virizion is
compact saddle
yep
dusk schooner
Keldeo is
past osprey
keldeo is lame
dusk schooner
If the three musketeers can have 4 then so can they
lapis dust
Legends are...kinda overdone, I think...But I guess I'd pick that lil hedgehog thing with the flower?
wind topaz
There was a young guy the tree musketeers trained in the story, that's who Keldeo is
dusk schooner
I know
wind topaz
Shaymin is lame
lapis dust
It's cute, but yes.
lapis dust
Al lthe good legends are taken
wind topaz
Latios and Latias seem to be being considered to be added, so I'll be happy if that goes through
compact saddle
Latios and Latias seem to be being considered to be added, so I'll be happy if that goes through
ew what the fuck
Al lthe good legends are taken
very huge doubt
wind topaz
Scrapi has wrong opinions often
lapis dust
Oh! WAit. I've got one. Cosmog's legendary technically right? Gimme some starry fusions.
wind topaz
No
compact saddle
cosmog is good
wind topaz
We don't need something more useless than Magikarp
restive rose
Then what about Solgaleo and Lunala
lapis dust
Who needs op legendaries anyway?
wind topaz
You can only pick 1
wind topaz
I'd rather not pick a legend
compact saddle
Who needs op legendaries anyway?
i wouldnt even play the game
i just like the fusions my picks would do
lapis dust
I like fusions with interesting appearance potential. Which admittedly are mostly ghosts.
wind topaz
I wonder how many people talking about Pokemon they want don't actually play the game
wind topaz
I like fusions with interesting appearance potential. Which admittedly are mostly ghosts.
Wispy bodies aren't very interesting
lapis dust
The great thing about this game..You can make up for a bad but pretty component with a strong secondary material.
wind topaz
Explain it then
restive rose
You can make up for a bad component with another thing
Like you could make the wispy bodies better by having something to compliment it I guess
lapis dust
Put a magikarp face on a Cranidos and it's still gonna turn out pretty strong.
You can literally make sunkern useable by fusing it with anything else.
Sunkern being statisticly the worst pokemon ever created. But a very cute one.
I mean it'll never be an Alakazam/Nidoking. But you can make it a solid team member
dusk schooner
Or you can just use a pokemon because you like it. To each their own
lapis dust
Exactly
plain nexus
I don’t play the game and that’s partially why I’m not participating. The other is that I’m taking a break from making fusions for right now.
quartz locust
BigTimeAng's entry is gonna be hard to beat. 😂
silver merlin
It sure is gonna be hard. 😂
compact saddle
just get a rock type
fallow bough
Sadly I don't think it'll get past the software.
compact saddle
Sadly
compact saddle
bro what
misty acorn
I really like that one
compact saddle
earlier gen style stinky
shadow holly
Which one is BTA?
shadow holly
Lmaooooo
wind topaz
That’s the best ones I’ve ever seen
wheat socket
i was also thinking hippowdon would be cool to add to the game, interesting fusions would come with him
wind topaz
But he’s ugly
brazen pawn
Hippowdown would be really sick
dusk schooner
Hippowdown's nice. Which gender would be used if it were picked though?
wheat socket
the black female version is so cool, but i like the male standard version to
dusk schooner
I agree
I suppose for fusions you could logically pick whatever colour you think suits
wheat socket
well yes I think it depends on the pokemon you want to combine it with
wind topaz
Thiccc Gardevoir fusion
misty acorn
Furfrou would be really cool, because every fusion where he is the body could just be him having a different fur design
dusk schooner
Oh yeah, that's pretty cool
wind topaz
I think he's too boring
misty acorn
he has one of the coolest desing concept of all pokemon imo, but hes still really unpopular, which is sad
dusk schooner
He fits the region well
zenith matrix
cough Zangoose cough
past osprey
originally I was going to pick Deoxys but he's likely in the game now
dusk schooner
Fav legendary
dusk schooner
Yes
dusk schooner
Genesect is close 2nd for me in terms of favourite legendaries
past osprey
hell yeah
wind topaz
I don't really want Deoxys because it wouldn't be possible to have his forms most likely
dusk schooner
Default Deoxys is enough for me personally
misty acorn
Yeah, you could just use the speed form when you fuse it with a fast mom and the defense form when you just it with a chunky mon
zenith matrix
a fast mom
👀
misty acorn
yeah, thats what I said and I stand by it 
zenith matrix
🏃♀️
wind topaz
👩👦
past osprey
when you're late for school because you missed the bus and your mom gives you a ride
a "fast mom"
shadow holly
Does she have Speed Boost
past osprey
she has slow start but a 200 base speed stat
Slow Star goes away once she has her moning coffee
compact saddle
my mother definitely has speed boost
wakes up
instantly gets up to get ready for work
bright elk
Imo, Jamo and Sjoba have the best sprites so far
umbral rune
I like sjobas, but I personally don't like jamos style
wind topaz
Which one of Jamo’s sprites?
Also, I noticed that his sprites are always very round, and that bothers me
past osprey
I really don't like Sjoba's submission
spark ginkgo
I'm the opposite, Altaria. Sjoba's looks derpy. I don't have a problem with the fact that Jamo's sprites all share the same face.
past osprey
it has too much dithering in my opinion
wind topaz
I don’t like Sjoba’s
bright elk
sjoba for mayor
wind topaz
Purple Sjoba shep
spark ginkgo
Umm... please no?
bright elk
Chives is cancelled
wind topaz
Looks like I’ve done it again
spark ginkgo
I've noticed that the quality of gen 2 fusions is a bit lower. If you want inspiration, search up "Johto Starters Fusemon 2nd Stage." Just because it's a fusion doesn't mean you have to use the body of one of the pokemon - triple fusions work differently.
wind topaz
Maybe I’ll try one if I have enough time after finishing my Hoenn
past osprey
this is the best one so far imo
spark ginkgo
That's the one by the reddit user! Usually their sprites aren't that great imo.
Occasionally they make a good one.
misty acorn
yeah, that guy has a weirdly wide range of quality. This one is really good tho, aside from maybe the color from the lines on the tail
nova nebula
scarecrow on monday: mediocre
scarecrow on tuesday: boobsette tier
scarecrow on wednesday: no sprite
scarecrow on thursday: mediocre
scarecrow on friday: this
rearrange as needed for any specific week
wind topaz
I don't see Sceptile in that fusion
misty acorn
the tailshape is sceptile
void pagoda
wind topaz
the tailshape is sceptile
@misty acorn That is Swampert's tail
The second pair of wings in this artwork doesn't look attached to anything, at least not in the same area for each wing
wind topaz
It's alright, but it just looks wrong in a lot of ways
fallow bough
Why are you guys always so judgemental in this channel? 👀
bright elk
woah woah woah, Isaac
who said I meant that kind of HUNG
...but yeah somebody get the rope
shadow holly
Why are you guys always so judgemental in this channel? 👀
Pretty much every channel in the Artwork section is judgemental, even #sprite-requests you have people judging others
crude cedar
I see people either really like or really dislike my sprite :3c no inbetween
@past osprey yours really nice x)
fallow bough
Pretty much every channel in the Artwork section is judgemental, even #sprite-requests you have people judging others
@shadow holly But this channel isn't in that section.
past osprey
my goal was to make the best gen 3 fusion
not many contenders in that area right now
shadow holly
let me sound cool Isaac, you're stealing my moment
past osprey
the best one there so far is Calicorn's
brazen pawn
gen 3
past osprey
this could have been one of the best if it actualy had sceptile
shadow holly
Somebody said he looks like he needs to poop and now I cannot get it out my head
haughty laurel
well i did start with a sceptile body and legs
past osprey
it's just that is' incredibily hard to notice
haughty laurel
and sceptile tail pattern was added to Swamperts tail and head fins
past osprey
I guess I can kinda see it
brazen pawn
my favorit gen 3 one is by xoto so far
calicorns had a cool pose but i dont like the colours
past osprey
isn't that a collab between him and you though?
brazen pawn
not really
ashen star
any help in #spriting-discussion ?
brazen pawn
he made like 99 percent
ashen star
please?
crude cedar
I love gen 3 sprites alot
Especially
Theyr colour palettes
I remember how i got absolutely roasted for using venusaurs gen 3 colours...
lapis dust
Alot of the older sprites were nice. They had character.
crude cedar
Yesssss 💕
wind topaz
Psst
Vote for my entry and I'll let you decide what Pokemon I should have added
dusk schooner
I thought you wanted Hawlucha
wind topaz
I also want to win
past osprey
psst
vote for my entry and I'll be happy
is there gonna be multiple bracketes for this contest too?
wind topaz
I don’t see why there wouldn’t be
past osprey
ah ok
dusk schooner
I think it was decided that the first brackets would be divided by Generation?
past osprey
oh dear god
wind topaz
Just delete that outright
dusk schooner
He fell into the distortion world
nova nebula
nevermind, i know now
wind topaz
He IS the distortion world
nova nebula
how many times should i ping tomate
wind topaz
0
nova nebula
so, uh
wind topaz
Just DM him 30 times
wind topaz
He’s a fool
nova nebula
knux if i didn't do it you'd ban me 😔
wind topaz
And he must be punished by being referred to as a male
nova nebula
cruel
wind topaz
I don’t really see Sceptile much
Maybe even just the yellow balls on his back would’ve helped
past osprey
bro the whole thing is mainly sceptile
the body structure is all sceptile
it's super lizardy
wind topaz
I think the bottom outline of the mouth looks pretty awkward
past osprey
I do not agree
the wings are sceptile arms with the feathers crossed with blazikens head feathers, the whole body structure and tail, the eyes, the arrangement of yellow things on its back
it's mostly swampert coloured cos there's little swampert in comparison
I really don't see how the bottom outline looks akward
wind topaz
I guess I just mean a lot of the mouth looks weird
past osprey
you're not really giving me specifics that I can work with
what about the mouth, the shading, the outline, the color?
do you prefer this?
wind topaz
I’ll try to make an edit later to see
wind topaz
The mouth looking bad isn’t really a nitpick
past osprey
I really dont see how you could say that it looks bad
this is really confusing
you can't just say that the mouth looks bad without giving any help to make it not look bad in your eyes
you shouldnt have given these critiques until or at least around the time you gave the edit. Now I'm just left confused thinking what is wrong with it
You should be able to say what you think is wrong rather than jumping to an edit. An edit is what you do, with permission, if you've tried to explain and didn't get across what you meant.
nova nebula
you forget that knuckles is bad at communicating in general 😔
past osprey
lol
nova nebula
diagnosis 1: autism
diagnosis 2: stop diagnosing people
past osprey
damn
nova nebula
it takes a au shitty communicator to know a au shitty communicator
past osprey
and now I will never know why it looks bad
past osprey
man I'm gonna be in bed in an hour
wind topaz
Actually I’ve kind of lost interest
I’m not gonna use yours anyways, I’m going to use mine
In the game I mean
past osprey
you cant just say that it has a bad mouth without telling me why
wind topaz
Then I guess I’ll do it tomorrow, i’m too tired to think about it
distant pilot
I think the issue with the mouth is that it looks like it kinda melts outwards?
I 100% see what Knuckles is saying about the outline
past osprey
melts?
distant pilot
Okay, what is the base sprite you are using for the mouth?
wind topaz
I guess it looks like the jaw is too thin at the bottom, almost like the mouth is opening, but the beak isn’t moving, like in some anime
distant pilot
or like it has a flap of skin hanging outwards
I also don't know about the overall pose of the head, usually pokemon face you at an angle and don't just look completely left.
Here's sceptile's mouth opened
I don't like the resolution either, but this was the one I dug up first.
nova nebula
Serious quesrion
distant pilot
The mouth might be facing a different angle from the head
nova nebula
Why is fusions upper jaw slash skull so smal
past osprey
maybe I'll make some changes right now I'm super tired
you think it has a small head?
solar garden
I get it
distant pilot
I think the bottom jaw was just too large in the first one 😂
solar garden
The top of his head could fit in his mouth
nova nebula
I just know that most every creature has a smaller lower jaw than their upper jaw slash skull
And this one doesnt
distant pilot
I think I get it, and I agree, that does look a bit awkward.
solar garden
Now I wanna make a mon with massive underbite
distant pilot
Tyrantrum? 😂
wind topaz
No
distant pilot
Trapinch?
distant pilot
I actually really do like Trapinch
Something about its design and having 100 base attack for a first-stage pokemon.
bright elk
Honestly having trapinch and flygon but no vibrava would be really really funny
I 2nd that vote
quartz locust
Isn't Vibrava weaker than Trapinch? 😮
quartz locust
I'm having a bit of a hard time checking on account of how slow my laptop is, has my fusion been put into the contest drive? 😅
dusk schooner
The torterra one with the fire tree?
quartz locust
That's the one, yeah! 😃
dusk schooner
Yep, it's in
quartz locust
Thanks for letting me know! ❤️
dusk schooner
Np. It looks neat
quartz locust
Thanks! It's a really competitive bracket but I'm really proud of how it turned out. Tried to avoid going down the overly detailed side of things which is really easy to do with Torterra. 😂
compact saddle
mine is a disaster lol
dusk schooner
No yours is a chunky lad and he's epicccc
quartz locust
He is, as the youth would say, thicc. 😅
compact saddle
lmaoo
fallow bough
I think it was decided that the first brackets would be divided by Generation?
@dusk schooner I mean, not by me. 👀
compact saddle
@misty acorn spare us
your sprite is too powerful
wait is this 288x288?
if it is, then it's probably legal
wich concerns me
misty acorn
fallow bough
No, pixel size is looked at too.
compact saddle
you are not pog
fallow bough
Meaning half pixel sprites also are not allowed past the software.
misty acorn
i first uploaded a 288x288 version, but this one is 96x96 
patent lance
misty acorn
FullHD 60fps version
nova nebula
a
compact saddle
a
last sorrel
that's a pretty good Primordial Chaos sprite
wheat socket
this version is much better than mine XD
brazen pawn
mammuth its better then all sprites in the competition its unmatchable
wheat socket
absolutely
ashen star
I really hope that doesnt win
brazen pawn
why 0.o?
ashen star
I dont see any effort its just a disgusting cluster of pixels...
brazen pawn
D: it is a master piece
umbral rune
KJ is just mad that its a work of art
bold barn
salty
ashen star
its really not good
bold barn
your just mad because it's better than anything you've made
umbral rune
D:
ashen star
considering your sprites I dont think you should make such an accusation.
misty acorn
I dont see any effort its just a disgusting cluster of pixels...
How can you say that D:
This took me 3 weeks to make...
ashen star
what?
ashen star
The contest hasnt even been announced for 3 weeks? unless you made it outside that
nova nebula
time twavel
ashen star
that didnt take 3 weeks and if it did not only did you waste your time but its really just hard on the eyes
nova nebula
kj
umbral rune
don't know why you are taking it so seriously lmao
nova nebula
lord of not understanding jokes
misty acorn
Ok, I admit it only took 2 weeks
nova nebula
seriously dude, who hurt you in pre k
ashen star
i know its a joke
nova nebula
then consider: stop being mad about tomate's joke sprite
ashen star
but its for a competition, and I still think it looks really weird regardless :/
misty acorn
meme sprites never get a lot of votes and I dont plan to win with this xD
distant pilot
We all think it looks like an abomination, but that's what makes it funny 😆
charred crescent
KJ is worried about losing to it
distant pilot
😂
nova nebula
how do i explain that kj is really, really not looking good in this "fight"
google please
wait fuck this isnt google
fuck
fuck
ashen star
im not participating, also its a bad sprite regardless of being a joke....
charred crescent
alexa, play despacito
distant pilot
@nova nebula "It's not supposed to look like a good sprite, it's a joke" 🤷♂️
misty acorn
I think its higher quality then the invisible kecleon at least
ashen star
there is a quote function, also I already acknowledged that
distant pilot
Invisible kecleon poggers
@ashen star wait why would I use the quote function there?
charred crescent
invisble kecleon is a good sprite you mad men
nova nebula
best sprite
distant pilot
It's perfectly accurate!
ashen star
you quoted bee?
distant pilot
I actually didn't
ashen star
@nova nebula "It's not supposed to look like a good sprite, it's a joke" 🤷♂️
?
nova nebula
:
distant pilot
it was a reply to his question 😂
ashen star
"his"?
distant pilot
her?
distant pilot
👍 Good to know! Sorry for the assumption 😅
ashen star
we
distant pilot
nevermind 😅
ashen star
?
burnt bane
welp i think as far as gen2 trio fusions go, i have a high change of winning
ashen star
no
burnt bane
no?
ashen star
I think its between you and bee and maybe bla
burnt bane
if its between me and 1 maybe 2 others
bold barn
considering your sprites I dont think you should make such an accusation.
burnt bane
that is a high chance of winning