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or a miltank where they specifically request it to have milk. I hate thoseee
yeah each year so far ive done a main and a side sprite for secret spriter and one of them was necrozma
That’s sounds fun 
I hope I get another Necrozma
can i post my current sprites ive made for it here
Necrozma is a cool mon, but I don't wanna have to do the geometry.. I think I'd probably just make a 3d model tbh
You’ll like [checks to make sure you’re not already in there] #1197396047434088518 message -

Oh wait you meant necrozma
theym
okay slurpuff is adorable
My statement would have been inaccurate to say “another pineco”, but I still would be very happy to get one
But Theme Blitzes just don’t work for me
Well, Pineco/dialga’s free last I checked
Eh, i finished my Pearl Jam Blitz and my Beard Blitz entries late
Oh yeah this reminds me
In another server I was in, when we did secret santa drawing events, we had a portion of the signup list dedicated to things you weren't comfortable drawing at all
Maybe that can be something considered here for the future (I know specific requests don't have to be done, but still)
Pain Trade but big, I see
Idk I haven't done a pain trade before
But the point is that person wouldn't get something that they weren't comfortable with
A pain trade is where two spriters give each other a fusion to sprite, typically fusions the spriter doesn't really want to do themselves.
This practice was created by Team Wild, and is usually done to help get less conventional or appealing fusions completed for their team.
So not necessarily pain trade 🤔
Ohh, so Person A would give Person B something Person A didn't want to do?
That’s pain Trade, but it sounds like you’re suggesting the opposite
A says they suck at small finicky scales so B gives them a sandshrew on a big body, frex
Dammit I was going to suggest a name but I think the bot won’t let me
Dammit yeah
Masochist Trade?
So that declension’s legal, huh
So in a Pain Trade
Person A would be like "I can't do small finicky scales" so Person B would give them something with those?
From what I’m gathering
Pain Trade is
Alice: I hate small finicky scales. Does anyone want to do sandshrew/giratina? I’ll do something else
Bob: I’ll do that. I hate igglybuff heads. Can you do igglybuff/anorith?
Or smth
Okay yeah
Then what I was describing is similar
It'd be like
Alice: I hate small finicky scales.
Moderator: Okay here is something requested that doesn't have small finicky scales.
Ohhh, I thought you were suggesting an event where you sprite the thing you hate doing
As like artistic exercise or smth
I mean I do like the idea but it was not the point I was making lol
I think it could be fun, making yourself do something out of your comfort zone artistically
it's interesting to see litwicks in different spriters' artstyles
Nah you're getting Kakuna/Giratina my friend 
kakuna is a wonderful pokemon . be happy
Thank you unbiased Beedrill
No problem, anytime 😎
Literally feening for secret spriter
Ooh, I was looking at that Necrozma the whole time. Glad to see my instinct pay off.
But man, is it hard to win with a small sprite.
hence we need Little Cup back
but with limited entries. and no cash prize
Little Cup doesn't include Meloetta. 
mid cup
needs to have at least uh 25 pixels of empty buffer from the sides of the canvas
Ayy, I'll take that bronze~ Really didn't expect it to be so popular since I'm not the biggest Sableye fan.
That top winner gives hardcore Nyarlathotep vibes
Second and first places were pretty close 👀
I mean shit they were ALL absolutely incredible sprites, I could never even compare if I tried my best 
Alas, it was a two horse race at the end and the black horse beat out the scary one :(
Well deserved though, it was a great sprite
True, IG that's why we asked 225 ppl for that 
That's a weird horse 
Jokes aside, yeah they were all stellar
It was meant to be a dark horse joke because everyone thought a litwick would win but I fucked it up, it's too early 
Today is the last day to apply to secret spriter. o3o
Second place is a horse tho 
And tomorrow we get (maybe) our assignments 
Praying I don't get another monkey Kyogre..
the dark horse beat out the horse horse
Look at those speed stats! My poor rapidash didn't have a horse in the race
I compared the wrong pokemon. But the joke stands
Rip
should have compared litwick/Unecrozma and dusclops/rapidash yeah 
Silly meee
When do we get the secret spriters wishes to make
a shuffle's gotta happen
make sure you don't give kakuna/un to a newbie
Current plan is the 9th if nothing comes up to impede that
You'll receive a DM with your fusion to make
Yeah, this exactly
Might be a couple people who get theirs today, but probably not everyone???
how many entrants?
At least one 
So I can still enter
Idk if I wanna be told by whoever's giving out the prompts what I put or if I just wanna be surprised
IDK yet man it depends on whether Discord rate limits me like last year 
I think they were asking how many total
Enough to be potentially rate limited at least
i don't know what that number is 😔
Me neither 😔
Isn't there a way to have the Yanmega bot DM people? I haven't messed around with it all that much but I thought it was a feature
How to install Pokemon infinite fusion
Oh.
We have a clean 130 people this year
45 less than last year
Hell yeah 
Oh wow
Not in this channel that's for sure
I hope I don't get something that looks like randomly generated
Genuinely if you're having trouble just try asking in #tech-support or maybe #ask-a-bot
heh, so it was literally my two guesses added together
🤔 what would seem randomly generated to you?
Yeah I'm kind of a bit confused by that wording too
it's like clicking random fusion on fusiondex
there's definitely some combinations that feel more cohesive
nah, i'm not confused by the wording - someone just hitting random on fusiondex like they said. i'm still curious what would read as randomly generated versus someone with weird taste 
Alright I just got done shuffling the names and I gotta say
Yeah I hope mine doesn't seem too odd
I think I just chose two of my favorites but I genuinely can't remember
This shit cinema I don't gotta do shit this year 
The requests.... fate pretty much scaled itself for me
Oh?
Did everyone get something they would likely be good at?
I normally do a base difficulty check to make sure no newer spriter gets stuck with like something super challenging
But like everything lined up really well this year
Nice
Truth be told... I'd say too well
They knew
This is the most I'll say
Multipe people who are known for spriting a certain Pokemon.... just got that Pokemon like
?????
Lmao
Ok??? I gues????
Suree????
Pop off randomizer ig???
Now I'm just double checking to make sure I don't accidentally give someone their own request
No, I did mean what you're questioning, so I guess in turn I've confused everyone else with wording lol
Gordo-claus gave me my sprite request!
This is gonna be a fun one
(Gordo-claus works right?)
The one I got has a custom already, I'm gonna haveto put in some effort to differentiate.
mine is ... interesting
but nothing less than i deserve for my own goofy request
mine is a million times more doable than last year thanks gordo 
I'm still coining the name Gordo-claus lol
I would think so
simple and festive
-# This joke will only make sense for less than an hour 
Santa Gordo, slip a sable under the tree
for me 🤔
@plain wing I'm seemingly unable to DM you
And I need to DM your request :)
...and so it begins...
what's the limit?
we know it's at least less than 130, then 🤔
I never knew there was a limit like this 
Most users don't reach it
I am the exception
This is my life
Every year
I have the solve
The same 5 captchas
Over
And over
Is it recent? I feel like I've sent big messages before to randoms without issue
I send my condolences 
Look at you training the AI 
I just looked at last year’s master sheet and forgot that I requested something similar to what I requested this year
A bug fused with a dragon
It’s totally the elephant on the skateboard 3 times over 
that seem 100% ai gen
Someone better be happy i didn't request necrozma 
It almost certainly is
Same with the bananas honestly
@long scarab I seemingly cannot DM you to deliver you your request
Please DM me or fix the thing
good chance all of them are
including the picture of the scene
Lol are all captchas like this nowadays
I just realized the base I made for this request isn't gonna work
Why are all the images ai?
try again, I tried to send you a DM and also got an error. DMs should be turned on now
Oh sorry one sec
would it help to dm Gordo first?
no i just mean in general
Maybe coz then bots can’t be trained based off the most commonly used images coz ai art is slightly different every time? Idk
like to prevent him from having to do the captcha a bunch
I see
I got a really good prompt i’m looking forward to it 
Should I dm?
the request i got is interesting 
I got a very normal request 
I have yet to get mine and I am looking forward to it 
Same
I want to continue the chain of comments ending with 


@cedar quest would it be better if we just dm you instead?
ok good to know

doomed
Mine's in Spritework
already???
Yep
You had yours in spritework before I got my prompt XD
I had to do something besides RPG stuff
I was getting annoyed and opted out and am leaving it to the others
So I did this
oh secret spriter 
*hoho secret spriter
santa calus
pre santa calculus
gordo claus
gordhohoho gamr
See? It's catching on
I have evil plans for mine
I have such a cool idea for the request I'm doin'
I uh... I don't know what to do now lol
I should've waited to work on mine, I was a speedster
Mine is AWESOME. Hoping i can pull it off
thanks 
I apologize to whoever got mine
well my request doesn't seem that bad
You got a lot of time to refine it, I'd say that's the move
imma get working on it now
nah id rather be surprised 
and i hope whoever got mine has a wonderful day 
Either that or continue to lose my mind in the RPG (which I'm not doing), so yeah working on the sprite is better
good luck with secret spriter everyone 
I can't participate this year because I'm busy 
My spriter request is pretty cool~ Never sprited this mon before but it has been in the back of my mind.
Who requests mons that already have customs? 
That's the first thing I hope I don't get.
people who have an idea for a different go at the fusion
I mean, I got a request for a mon that already has a fusion that didn;t have any additional details noted
Some people might not have checked I guess.
Mine also alrdy has a custom. But they gave additional details so I think its pretty cool
Maybe you could take an unfulfilled request later in the month 
Can anyone try to fill in for an unfulfilled request?
The collage idea is cool, I like that
I always liked filling in with Secret Santa events in my other server so I don't mind
ok so let's just say that karma exist and Jojo Siwa was right
(i'm talking bout secret spriter)
oh, so you're responsible for my prompt! 
Gordo said to have fun but then followed up by me not having to implement the side notes, so ig I can do it without having fun
Good. no having fun in this secret spriter event 
Also if you got my request and it seems hard, its bc @molten vector started my villain arc by giving me a shitty request last year
But yeah, forcing the implementation of extra notes on the request would be very resteicting
@cedar quest can you ask for feedback for your secret spriter sprite in sp discussion?
I got notes but I'm not sure I like them. :c
You dont have to act upon the note
So yeah have fun with ||REDACTED||/||REDACTED||
I do want to respect the wishes of the requester, so I'll try my best to compromise.
This request does tick some boxes for me but in a monkey paw sort of way.
I mean the requester knows that they might not get the notes implemented
Hopefully it means I surpass their expectations.
I meant to apply to secret Santa but was busy at the time of the announcement and then completely forgot after that 
I’m upset with myself I really wanted to join in
I wanted to join but I’ll be away in the last half of December so I can’t do it 
We almost need a second secret spriter for all the people that missed the deadline 
This is why I submitted mine as soon as I read the message 
(guys it's okay. the snake does that on purpose as a response to threats
i don't know how seriously to take all the
s, but hey, some folks might learn a cool snake fact)
Nono, you've slain a snake and 6 other people by now 
It is your destiny now
Snake was slain by Worm
This town ain't big enough for two noodle animals 
We are sad the snake feels stressed 
If only we could give all animals a happier life than we all live
Alas, life stinks
I was going to start my secret spriter fusion but thank arceus I looked at the request again because I was going to do the reverse instead , I don't want that to happen again
also it makes it so much more painful because it's a big body
do both 

I should be sproting but it's so tryign to react to sapphire's command in discord suggestion before itr getrs deleted
hopefully the react didn't break the command
if we're on this topic, then
what was the suggestion i can't seeeeeee
lol
I understood it was just a defensive behavior but I was playing along with the gif
i figured, but like i said
cool snake fact 
-# I can sneak you in if there's enough people that missed the deadline and want to participate
I mean you've gotta put in #1050404143807873157 so 
-# Also I include that in every request thing, it's encouraged but if you can't do it - then just make something for the request
You should try to follow the side notes though
So yeah you should have fun 
I will NOT be having fun
I totally didn't forget what I gave for secret spriter 
at least i'm not the only one 
If you’re able to do this then shoot me a DM and I’ll see it in the morning. If not then don’t worry about it :)
Remember to spoiler ur ss threads ppl
you don't have to do that. and some people have been asking why people are doing that in the first place which tbh i think is a fair question 
yea it's optional
It just makes sense and is most courteous
Maybe we can get an official word on that
it is officially optional
It's in the announcement for the event, it's up to the spriter
i think the secret is more you don't know who you're spriting for and less they don't know who's spriting for them
People dont wanna be spoiled on their requests tho either. I like to be spoiled but thats just me
what's the spoiler, that's when they get their request
(I mean, I put the spoiler tag, but that's just because I like clicking it, like unwrapping a present)
if you're someone who gives feedback, will you avoid every single secret spriter thread? then who's giving feedback? if you aren't someone who gives feedback, you're probably not spending a lot of time browsing spritework anyway
If youre someone who gives feedback you kinda need to make peace with that yea but thats like 10 people max 💀
It makes sense that people wouldnt want to accidentally see their request being made under normal circumstances
why not? it's fun to see the process
maybe even help out to make the sprite even better :0
Its supposed to be a surprise/present
is it?
Youre not supposed to know anything until christmas lol thats why its a secret
the surprise is who requested the sprite imo
The deadline is after Christmas though, also not everyone celebrates Christmas
You could just avoid spritework if you don't want to see it I suppose
Sorry, after the holidays. Also remember that secret spriter is a play on secret santa, so it is based on a christmas tradition while not being tied to it
Its a bit unrealistic to expect people to not go on spritework for a month
Again, maybe we could get an official revisit on this?
You can always put a request in #discord-suggestions if you'd like
Nah this doesnt seem very convoluted or groundbreaking, ill wait for the higher ups to chime in wheneva 
I'm gonna chime in real quick and just state that I also find it a bit weird we are not required to spoiler the ss images in spritework
that just makes me not wanna post my entry for as long as possible
Spoiler it if you want to, don't if you don't

Some people care, some don't - so this is just how it is
I figured I’d just help out in a small capacity. Wish I could do secret spriter but my schedule is way too packed.
But the way this whole secret insert noun here thing works is youre not supposed to ruin who got who before its over 
you already gave me the amazing deli/rat last time, so don't worry about it 
The way we do it is moreso the Secret is who you're spriting for
Not what you're doing
You 🫵 don't know who you're spriting for, but you know what you are doing
Yeah, still feel bad about last year. Everything stacked up so quickly…
But hey, if you need a pixel art Christmas cookie, let me know.
Bold assumption 
Well… 
ok you two are like the exception because I forgot to remove something from the request that just kinda gives it away 
is that the thing where peer reviewers do where they're like "um you didn't cite [this one semi-obscure paper]"?
telling the submitter exactly which salty scientist was miffed at getting the brush-off? 
was scrolling trough the dex for ideas and found a celebrity!
there goes my hero...
Wait, did I miss the winner for the Spritober votes?
The poll has concluded, but no announcement has been made
Either the dex is being updated more frequently or the rush was really two months ago 💀
Wait wasn't the rush in October? I'm pretty sure either this was made before or I'm missing smth
It was at the end of october
I ADHD'd my way into forgetting to post results yesterday
Expect them today
There's also the Flag thing but ...
I'm not part of that

Bug Pory about that one 
bug mentioned
sting pory with bee
bzzz
This is event general @sharp mountain 
noooooo 
Hello no one, today please don't make a Rock-type, especially one that would be found in an uncommon place


Im so pleased with how my secret spriter sprite is turning out so far
I was worried I might've been too ambitious but I think im going to be able to pull it off I hope
Im putting off the hardest part till the end
I finished the concept art for mine but I don't think that I'll be able to make something incredibly impressive out of it
I'll think it over but idk if it'll be possible
I hope my requester isnt expecting anything huge
Oh its not bc of my spriting skills its moreso bc they requested 2 fairly simple mons and didnt leave notes
I would assume it's probably a randomly generated fusion or a fusion that helps a team or smth, not all the sprites have to be huge or super complex, mine is quite simple 
... I did it again, didn't I?
I reminded myself to note down Secret Spriter stuff
But not Spritober podium

set up a poll in #ask-a-bot that'll time out when you're available to set up the podium. when it finishes it should give you an alert or smth
I'll remind myself to do that on lunch
#1448369541980881028 message crack the code and get the prize
Can i have 100 dollars for cookie run pls
only if you can run the same time as u play
jump even
i need to finish 2 secret santa things now and i am procrastinating already whoops
time to lock in
hey @cedar quest did you need a reminder about contest poll results?
Yes and no
I did remember... but thing I forgot was
Today is Game Awards, so I have other plans today!
I’m starting a count
@broken robin You seeing this beat-em-up RPG they got going
I was so confused at first
hes a zombie werewolf but in like, a cute boy kind of way
shoulda had a counter for anime bullshit in hindsight
these french people cannot be stopped
i really need to save my "Sorry for being bored and french" screenshot, don't I? 
It was me I did a spell to rig it all
I know a friend who's very happy the French won lol
Tbf, it is a really fun game
I love elden ring 2 clair obscur so much
It'll be a bit before the contest rolls, since I'm a lil' busy - so expect for them to update tomorrow probably
Well deserved to the Spritober winners
Regardless, congrats to our podium winners!! And I hope everyone enjoyed this years' Spritober
Certainly.
I like how's there more reacts for Pebble then there are for the podium
Who can hate the pebble?
It's just a silly little guy!!
rip my rainbow role
nooooooo 
That Dusclops dragon is like Yugioh levels of cool while still fitting into this game. Really deserved it.
Heeeeey congrats to the winners 
pebble spotlight yeaah yeaaah
hello chat did we get the april fools results yet or nah
You’re the fool for asking 

In 13 days, the exact time is on the announcement in #event-announcements
Oh, that’s why I don’t remember the deadline
It’s written like this
Rather than the normal way which would be the 26th
I used the wrong format on one 
Yeah I thought it was weird to put the time, but I didn't think to mention it lmao
Evangelion 
@cedar quest next year, can you make sure to tell people to put the fusion name in the title when posting their ss in spritework?
Yeah I've already got it noted down, sorry 😅
I think it's just cuz we know we have to mark it as Secret Spriter so it's like "How do we keep it a Secret if we have to name what fusion it is and mark it as Secret Spriter"
the sprite isn't the secret, the person who requested the sprite is the secret
And you have to hide the sprite incase they wanna be surprised by it. So they have to know what thread to avoid if they wanna do that
they're surprised by it the first time they see it 
I'd be curious to know how many people actually care about being "spoiled" on the fusion they already know is happening enough to avoid looking at secret spriter threads/images in spdiscussion
Well it's more like being spoiled on the execution I think
I wanna see mine when it finally shows up 
I have said it a few times but I genuinely do not remember what I asked for so for me the entire thing will be a spoiler I think lmao
I feel like people are imagining the sprites as the "gift" in this scenario, but I think it makes more sense with how the event is actually run to think of the request as the gift to each spriter.
but honestly the secret santa comparisons don't really work well either way
Oh, I'm bad at giving gifts then
Last year I asked for a bruxish 
Yeah I think that might be the big confusion then honestly
If it's not actually a Secret Santa equivalent then I think using a name based off it is a huge confusion debuff
if we really wanted to make it a secret santa where the sprite itself is a gift, we should each be given a name of someone, and choose ourselves what to sprite based off of what we think they'd like to get. And either we never post those publicly until it's time to reveal, or we don't label them as secret spriter sprites in spritework.
Mhm
But I think the event as it currently is is fun and fine, I just think it doesn't really make a lot of sense to spoiler tag the images really 
I like it personally
Yeah
It is optional
I do think the name does a huge part in making it seem like the sprite should be kept secret
I wanna suggest something based on White Elephant but idk if the name is very universal or if it's only an American thing (and even then it has at least a few different regional names)
My friends and I were talking about the regional names of White Elephant gift exchanges the other day
there are some weird ones
tbf white elephant is also pretty weird
YEAH
Where do you get that from lmao
But I looked it up and apparently that's the most popular name for it??
all I can think of is the hemingway short story
I don't think I'm familiar with it
hills like white elephants
Yeah I don't think I've heard of it
And I royally screwed that up
(But made up for it by apologizing but I still feel bad and should do something to make up for it)
Tbf
Just calling it Secret Sprites should be fine no?
secret elephant
Merry Mystery
Holiday Whos-its
Infinite Inquisitions
Spritemas Wishlist
I was thinking Sprite Elephant would be fun if you think of it as "You don't know who's going to get this thing but you gotta buy make it anyway"
And Sprite rhymes with White
Spriters Santa
delibird/bruxish where the antenna thing is mistletoe
does that exist? i feel like it should
i don't know what any of y'all would like 
secret requester
sequester
donphan fusions for everyone!
Wonderful Wishes
😔 no, it is just Delish
https://www.fusiondex.org/delibird+bruxish/
What about just...
Sprite Exchange
It sounds like we make the sprites and trade them around imo
Someone better make a slay rayquaza delibird xD
So sad I dont have the time
Santa slay :p
-# Buffy the vampire sleigher
The B rate horror movie starring WWE Hall of Famer Bill Goldberg?
(And no, I'm not joking btw)
There is another 
💅 this one?
Yeah 
That one has more Ys in it though 
maybe each person could make a list of possible sprites they like, each participating spriter could claim a specific list, sprite one from the list, and then post it on spritework (either under the label secret spriter or just as a normal sprite). then, at the end of the event, the spriter could @ whoever requested the sprite? there are definitely better ways to go abt it, that's just my suggestion if we wanted to have a secret spriter that more resembles secret santa
See I feel like the issue is then a race to whoever gets the "good" or "easy" sprites first
Or the sprite someone really wants done isn't done over something else
How about a secret santa where it's fan art instead of sprites
I honestly don't see the issue about this. Secret Spriter is totally fine in my opinion. It IS kinda necessary to have them run through Spritework threads for improvements. You don't have to jump into every thread and look for yoursbeing worked on. I still very much thinkthe sprite is the gift, not the requestto the spriter 
+The requests aren't just mixed, from what I know they are sorted to appropiate Spriters too.
Yeah this is all really just a
Non-Issue
Like we use Secret Santa in name-sake, but it's not really that at all
It's just an excuse to make something nice for someone else during the holidays
Don't overthink it
Nobody's actually complaining 
It's just kinda funny about how many people get confused on what parts should be secret
And then we get excited thinking of other fun things to do
I plan on making fan art as a thankyou gift anyways
So, when's mine hitting Sprite work 
Oh, right. This year I actually get 2 
Didn't process that far hahahaha
Whenever they do it ig 
Also I'm prio'ing my request to do over the back-up request, so 
I see I see, so I'll have to wait till next year 
Are you gonna make the collage a card
"Season's Greetings from the PIF Server"
And then we all open the card and are disappointed to find no money inside
It’s a postcard. You can’t open it 
#1355989314290450452 message Who doesnt like a non official prize hunter that we cant advertise in #recurring-events
its unova!
oh shoot I just realized
I have the deadline set for the day after Christmas
That is NOT the day I wanted 
I wanted 28th
but what about 8:00:00 PM
I picked the wrong option
Also - it's still the wrong time, now it's the 27th 
I hate timestamps....
Start with plaintext until you figure it out
It is fixed
dang we lost an hour for the deadline, but also gained 2 days
Yippee

Gordo are you not using a website for timestamps
It shows you a preview of what each one looks like
P sure he does, I remember him helping me out by using one
I just don't understand how he's having this much trouble if he is using a website
9:00:00 PM
I use a different one that calculates stuff in a different timezone than me....
https://sesh.fyi/timestamp/ I use that one personally I like it over the 3v.fi 
Automatically convert times and dates to the Discord timestamp format to display times in everyone's local timezone.
Oh yeah that one's neat
i have finally 'started' my secret spriter sprite!
(i am barely even finished with the pallete swap i am so cooked gng)
You're fine the deadline keeps moving 
it's 9pm 
Probably should start with my secret spriter soon. But like with what mon the body is compared to the head ima need a new base. And I really dont wanna make a new base.
Honestly kinda suprised theres nothing remotely similar to the pose I'm looking for, given the mon is known to pose like this.
blender time?
If you can find an official picture, you can trace it
It's not the same as using a pixel-perfect base, but it's still easier than figuring the proportions by hand
I could draw the pose for you 
No, its secret spriter, its kinda against the spirit of the thing to show other people. But I would like to see this turned into a base at some point later. So I'll definitely revisit this pose at a later date.
didn't we just have a discussion that the "secret" part of secret spriter is who you're drawing the fusion for? 
Not that I recall
Also the fact I don't know who I'm drawing for makes me nervous, because I dont wanna accidentally ask the person I'm drawing this for for help/feedback till its at least spriteworked.
starting about right here: #event-general message
Its not like I read the stuff in this chat before joining the chat. I rarely open event general anyway.
well, you currently have two different people offering, so even if one is the requester, you have a 50-50 chance of picking the non-requester
another option is to ask for help only from people who have seen their request in spritework
or ask for people whose requests "didn't include legends" if you're spriting a groudon/necrozma
EDIT: got my logic flipped, lol
Mine isn't a legend, but is something recognizable enough its probably more important than one.
cool. so just ask for folks who requested legends
even better
"do not unspoil if you requested a starter"
easy peasy
Fair
Alr, Worm convinced me, I'll take you up on your offer. If you requested a starter do not unspoil. I need a base of ||Empoleon, but like sitting||.
Aint nobody reads the announcements 

#event-announcements message
I hate starters 
I’ll work on it tonight
Its sleeping animation might be a good one to look at for reference. But like I dont need it sleeping obviously.
Everything you need to know about SS is in the announcements
Spoilering what you're working on is optional, keeping it a secret what you requested is highly suggested
Yeah, it just seems wrong given its like secret Santa, but PIF.
I suppose you're right tho
Here's one of it kneeling
The only thing similar is the name, really 
well that's what we were saying
it's not secret santa. it's almost the opposite of secret santa
for secret santa, you know who you're gifting to, but the recipient doesn't know what they'll get
for secret spriter, the recipient knows what they'll get, but not from whom, and the gifter doesn't know who will recieve what they gift
Honestly a kneeling base might work for the idea as well. I just need its ass on the ground.
lmao
as someone who requested ||[DATA EXPUNGED]||, i'll bow out while y'all work on it 
||Empoleon|| is actually kind of cool...
As a head. I still hate working with it as a body
Why do you think I'm struggling
Not to mention that I also need to ||mention a direct time period|| and use ||cloth physics ||
If I had to choose between ||Ultra Necrozma or Empoleon||, I'd choose ||Necro||
||Cloth physics|| are fun, though
Actually, is there a guide to|| cloth ||around here somewhere?
Ty
Luckily due to || Empoleon||'s body shape, and the mon its mostly ||baggy draping.|| Its just the ||creases/folds|| I'm worried about.
Are you doing ||Scraggy|| head or ||Scrafty|| head?
Either way, ping me in the thread
I love those mons
Its ||Froslass|| but they specifically requested it to look like a ||Japanese Emperor|| and thus I need the ||wavy bottom and the giant hanging sleeves||
Oh, in that case, ||a kneeling pose would be super appropriate||
This idea
But kneeling
Or sitting, does matter in the end, odds are his legs will be covered by the cloth anyway
Doesn't seem too hard
||All the creases are around the shoulders||
I think a lot of it is that I've never worked with|| cloth|| before
And thus I'm nervous Ima screw it up and ruin someone's request
Still, do need the thing sitting/kneeling either way
-# 
With how dead Mysteries is this meme ain't gonna make sense much longer.
It came back for like 2 weeks right around anniversary, then immediately died again
i still beleef 
Unfortunately you used the M emoji with the regional indicator E emoji, instead of the regional indicator M emoji with the regional indicator E emoji, so I'll have to take away your emoji license till you know how to match circles and squares.
(You still messed it up BTW, thats the wrong I)
I'll be really good at that!
-# is anyone tired of me saying it yet for comedic purposes
Whoops, ignore that, my keyboard decided it wanted to talk in here :3
How kind of it, it wants to communicate with the cosmos and instead communicated with artists
Damn, my autocorrect took away the “fartist”


Might as well have communicated with the cosmos for how... far out some of y'all are

I don't know if you're saying we're awesome or spacey
I took it to mean we're all weird 
That's for me to know, and you... To never know 
We're all Planetary Janet

Would anyone like to donate a sprite to the Odor Sleuths (can be any sprite you made from September to now) in hopes of saving us from elimination 
What happens when your sprite is donated?
If it fits a category it gains us support points which then rolls into an item we can use
Right now we need it to roll into a stamina item or we get eliminated
what sort of stuff you need?
i got sprites
there is,
uh
a lot of pins. i don't know where to go to find the categories 
Let me find the list
Any category that is for the Odor Sleuths
That is unchecked
ayo?
i just put a jirachi/pineco in the gallery. i'll see if it qualifies for anything
The format you’d post it in #1378122618196066414 is
(Category) for the Odor Sleuths with the image
And the fusion name
🤔 does it have to be Bug/Steel or can it be Steel/Bug?
Thank you!!!!!
Any works
2 guys 4 u, then
small heads up, I'm taking it pretty easy this week
so be wary that I might not see things immediately
oki!!!
Got the two things out that I wanted to today
the list
🪱 
-# Don't worry about the black line btw - that's more for me than you
28th
Meanwhile I got mine done within like 10 minutes of getting the request. I literally had nothing to do that day aside from the RPG tiles lol
<t:1766970000:R>, AKA <t:1766970000:F>.
yay, Gordo learned how to timestamp! 
I’m on the red list 
me too! 
Me too!
I should finish mine!
We got slammed with OT so I'm only just now getting some time, myself 😅
Which Original Trainer's been beating you up
ive been a bit unmotivated recently but im trying to get my secret spriter knocked out now 
What did OneTopic do?
Also a semi-tangent, but next year - I'm planning on doing another Secret Santa thing, but this time w/ Fan Art
I don't have the hard rules down, but I know I want to do one
It'll either be next year I try it out, or 2027
Yes
more fanart events
Hmmm, tempting but I'd probably butcher whatever I'm given
If I had to guess what that'd look like, it'd be:
- you are assigned a spriter who signed up
- they must have at least X fusions so you have choice
- draw a fusion of theirs in a non-pif way
- genuinely secret Santa style thing as you know who you've got and they don't
Yeah pretty much
hi, is asking for conceptualizing help okay in secret spriter or is that not allowed?
my motivation for anything spriting-related been down in the dumps as of late
uhm, i already have a concept actually, just need a second opinion on how to pose it
It's allowed, you just might not want to reveal what it is to the requester (not a requirement but some people like to keep that element of surprise)
This is how another user handled the situation
Which I just now fulfilled 
Np!
if you requested a fusion with a dark type mon in it, maybe don't look
||so idea is just a cheeky/mischievous pose with an egg, maybe running away or sth, as sneasel are known to steal eggs, right? but I couldn't work out the proportions of that, and also it's kinda uncharacteristic of a typhlosion to run away, so i dropped it. i tried this specific pose but it is difficult to sneak in the explosion bit on its back (that i'll turn into feathers) without making it look cramped. do you guys have ideas on how to make this work?||
||The torso seems just a little bit long, so shortening it should help. Moving the whole sprite to the left a bit will also help. Egg shells on the ground could be moved around quite easily, so I'd focus on getting enough room for the explosion/feathers before adding the egg shells||
have you heard of our lord and savior blender posing 
:D thank u so much
Np!
I feel weird, gordo can you stop giving me things with fur
I am down for this! Been a while since I properly drew a fusion with markers like in the beginning.
it would be fun to draw someone else's team for secret santa :0
late to the party but I also think the idea to not do a contest for secret spriter this year was a good one. Not that I don't love a good competition, but it's refreshing for this event 
got a look at the list, seems someone has been a bad kid
hmm a blacked out name, mayhaps its a super (super) special (special!) secret (secret) ASSIGNMENT?!
or maybe... someone has two?
Smh smh I can't believe gordogamr is red 
I mean, doing 2 requests wouldn't be too bad depending on the fusion, but I'm overspeculating
If you don't make it in time gamr, who will make the announcements 
If I don't make it in time, I'll let y'all decide the punishment
But that's not gonna happen
Because my holiday vacay is coming up
So I get to finish it then
you have to host another seminar 
https://www.youtube.com/@InfiniteFusionSeminars
i'm gonna resurrect these damn things
I'd be happy to
deliberately sabotage yourself, then 
oh wait oh wait i found a better one 
calculate the average BST of the secret spriter requests 
hosting = setting up the slideshow and giving the presentation
afaik
Xenellia did the last two and I just made sure to capture the info
Make a middle stage contest 
And you have to enter
braixen
double trouble found dead in a ditch
No nuzleaf sprites must mean everyone is scared of the nipples
though maybe seadra's doing worst of all proportionally, geez
you stare too deeply into the nips, the nips stare back
"My eyes are down here"
What's double trouble?
i feel like it's collabs? duos enter the contest?
Oh okay I wasn't sure if it was related to the middle stage pokemon or not
Sealeo I will make fusions for you eventually
you could probably do a double trouble middle cup if you wanna 🤔
there's certainly enough middle evo fusions to need it
I could just make evos for the spheal fusions that I already made to be honest
Sealeo head gets weird though
Sealeo feels less recognizable or more "plain" as a head fusion
I could be wrong though
mustaches for everyone
contest where you had to collab with someone and your fusion had to include a certain middle evolution from the dedicated list they provided
Ohhh
everyone made lombre fusions because lombre is the fucking goat 
I'd make sealeos and sliggoos
We literally did a Double Trouble this year
-# I like sliggoo more than goodra
What who said that
that was food fight not double trouble
i thought we hadn't done it since Hakamo-o's addition
ah
I think I literally just want goodra to have the dot or cool green slug eyes back
sliggoo is nice i just wished it got rid of the stupid eyelashes then its great
???
id rather have just pure dot eyes
Looking at sliggoo as we speak
Hm..
Maybe
hisuian goodra is so good i love how they made a better goodra in every sense of the word only for it to be immediately replaced by duraludon 
Wait sliggoo has a similar belly pattern to spheal......
I mean, yes and no - the first part is correct, but the mid Evo thing was just the twist of that specific DT.
yea ik food fight is just double trouble with a different theme i just wanted to say that there was a middle evolution contest at some point 
Oh true Food Fight was just kinda DT 5 huh?
Just wanna remind Gordo that Discord says you are my best friend. Cuz I hung out in your live streams in August.
should i ask secret spriter related questions in here
because i wanna help do backup and have no idea how its done
Yes, this is the place
Ping Gordo with the querie
@cedar quest i wanna participate in the secret spriter event doing backup sprites
how do i participate?
I know another person that wants to do a backup since they forgot to sign up
I would also be down to do a backup if some where needed 
yall r the elves 
I am on your shelves
We get there when we get there, ideally I won't need backups
Looks like The List™ already shows a sprite that needs a backup 
i just dont wanna lose another deadline lol
the power of teamwork
Teamwork makes the dreamwork 
Unfortunately I dont dream 
Yes you do. Everyone dreams. We just don't remember what we dream of all the time. Its easy to lose sight of what we want, but the dream is there nonetheless
Take that
i'm 2nd place !
I definitely would've voted for you but I was more concerned with how readable it'd be at the tiny flag size in the roles
It was really hard to tell what would be readable so I just went with bold colors hoping that'd be the most readable option
The options were ⬛, 🟪 , and ⬛
Yeah basically
They were very good!!! But very detailed for a tiny square next to names
surprised there wasn't a 🟧 or 🟩 option since it was for halloween 
I guess litwick was the obvious focal point
i had more the trainer card aspect in mind 
Yeah it works very well for a trainer card
Thank you everyone who contributed support sprites, we live
#1355989314290450452 message Map update from unofficial Prize hunter
Pls join us 
event includes
gastrodon
fyi
also if we dont get claims the map might die uh
Loosing on a Prize Hunter is really sad
Even more since I planned so much on it
Imagine they announced a new Pokémon on Christmas day
I've said that for a while now just to heckle but it probably won't happen
Hoping it’s the string light pokemon 
the christmas slugs
christmas island red crabs exist, therefore crabominable and crustle will be added on christmas trust me
Iron bundle will be the only gen8+ pokemon added bc christmas
Yes
what about orthworm
christmas worm
The poll is over
#1355989314290450452 message
Update for non official non if prize hunter
Secret Spriter sprites go to the gallery, right? 
They don't go there with spoiler warnings
Yeah, they should be posted in gallery, but I never give a hard deadline to that
I just need to make people don't freeload
Posted mine 
In a sea of other sprites for camouflage....
But I remember which one it was
It was [[REDACTED]]
yo i like the one tree sprite for the one bug Pokémon
caterpillar has a cool sprite which has a tree
im gonna use that sprite and win in kanto
oh, that one base?
https://www.fusiondex.org/sprite/pif/10h/
yes that one
it looks so good
evermore is really good in sprite making
which sprites did you do?
oh, these guys:
https://www.fusiondex.org/artists/wormspawn/
i Love these sprites
you are really good in them
this one looks like a split evolution for that pokemon
this one looks the silliest
this one might be my favoruite
Worm is awesome!
it's fine to wait until after secret spriter is over to post to gallery, right?
you can if you want, yeah
hello
"1 message hidden from likely spammer" and it's just "hello" 😭
yes but it's in every channel 
They’re just very friendly 
Very friendly and very dead from this server
Damn, the secret spriter sprite i submitted never got made
idk if mine did, i forgor what it was 
There's still a couple of days before the deadline
Well there's 3 more days and even then Gordo will probably already have back up Spriters in line waiting for any Requests left unfinished
i haven't posted mine yet, but it's pretty much ready for spritework
Deadline is still 3 days from now
And if it's not done by deadline, I get my backup crew on it
also huh, there's a bunch of non-IF secret spriters 🤔
i haven't seen my request, but i also haven't been unspoiling secret spriter posts
Honestly non-IF secret spriter would be cool but then some people dont wanna sprite non-if
I was the little gremlin who hosted a Non-IF Secret Spriter in another server! It didn't have a whole lotta participants (which worked well for me since I've been busy all month), but I love all the sprites that came out of it!
I think I may make a Non-IF Mini Event of some kind once I handle finalizing the details for the next mini mystery
I love my stupid chicken they could never make me hate you espathra
I was wondering if there was an event I missed out on or something
but I love all the non if fusions I’ve seen so far
This reminds me of that flamingo-with-yo-yo segment in Fantasia 2000
Yes please, I need an excuse to sprite more Gothitelle.
I can't plug my event it's on hiatus but-
I was so disappointed that it lost the vote to be added honestly but alas
I think all the mons we got were really good
Now would Seismitoad have been better then Dragalge, absolutely

I like that Dragalge got added bc Dragalge is one of my faves, but Eelektross isn't and I would've preferred Gothitelle lol
unfezant tho
Yeah I would've been fine with that one too
I really wanted Wishiwashi in tho
Like with Dragalge out of the way, my top 3 would've been 1. Wishiwashi, 2. Gothitelle, 3. Unfezant
And with all the Wishiwashi propaganda I thought it was guaranteed in 😭
I didn't realize those scales moved
yeye, that's why the line's signature move is Clanging Scales!
Ahhhhhh
I thought it was more just like movement like how knights in armor move and make noise even tho the armor isn't moving much on its own
well, that is a fan animation (i believe) 🤔 so it might not actually be intended to be that mobile
regardless, after jangmo-o got voted in, i don't trust any predictions 
Oh was that one no one thoguht would get in or smth?
i saw no propaganda for jang. its win seemed to come out of nowhere
it was on my propaganda, at least 
Ughhhhhhhhh Wishiwashi schooling could've gone so hard!!!!!!!!!!
No one has the vision
people were concerned about fitting all the mini-mons into the space of, frex, cleffa
but i feel like schooling has to be allowed to be bigger. it doesn't make logical sense otherwise
i'd have to do more work to get the schooling effect, but this was what i was thinking
Yeah like that would've been cool!!!!
yeah, but people are pretty locked on "vibes of the head, size of the body"
if the sprite managers don't allow schooling heads to be bigger than the body 'mon, i'll riot do it anyway 😌
I saw a cool fakemon concept someone made a while ago (idr where but I think Reddit) where someone made a bee form of Wishiwashi, where it had a "Hive" form and shaped itself into a huge bee
AND THAT WOULD BE SICK FOR BEEDRILL STUFF
there is already... one sec
we got dis!
https://www.fusiondex.org/remoraid+gastly/
Awww
so it can be more!
Mhm
Not even remotely Gastly, but I still love it! 
exactly why we need wishiwashi 
I would say 1% Gastly
I guarantee you if Wishiwashi is added, I'm doing one fusion and nothing else
It'd get the Swoobat treatment from me; do the minimal amount of fusions for that Pokémon as I can
more for me 
I say go ahead then
No offense but it's not something I'd actively fuse
Would rather take Toxicroak or anything else
also on my propaganda 😌
If it does get added then this would likely qualify to get reorganized as Wishiwashi, yep.
Huh? I thought Eel was added.
it is
I wanted clawitzer and escavalier 🥀
I wonder what next year’s additions will be
shiinotic 100% already decided 
Thats kinda a shiitake ngl
SAWSBUCK PROPAGANDA
if deerling/sawsbuck gets added can we can get pif with seasons too 
Now we're talking
only 3 days lefts for making the secret spriter sprites 
good thing i started mine on the very first day and then finished it a few days ago woah who said that
Me
I think for me it was a week ago when I finished but I did about the same lmao
Oh right, I should probably post my sprite to the collage, is that open yet?
salazzle line is very high
every year it came closer and closer to the top
now that a lot of the competition at the top is gone it's very likely
it would have most likely been added if ruby won
crustle also got a lot of love
i will lobby for rule2 lizard
My vote counts for 1 morbillion
arccheops cmon 
man ruby really did have some banger picks
WAIT
you missed the most important member of ruby
kricketune (real)
I contemplated joining ruby just to troll pick
I remember we were so lost on why everyone kept joining emerald cuz ruby had overall the best picks (not biased whatsoever)
I was personally rooting for mincino/cincino since like little ppl cares about it lol
I joined emerald cuz it had a ton of the spriters that inspired me
I did not care what Pokemon we got
outside of gogoat, most of the non-if I've done have been mons from other teams
honestly the Pokemon I wanted most was on Ruby, but I think I would've been pelted with tomatoes if I voted in Dedenne
not to say there were bad picks in emerald, I loved a ton of mons in emerald too
i shared the other two; might as well post this one as well
I wanted autism cat from emerald 
espurr and meowstic would've been baller
meowstic would be annoying, though, especially since there's a 99% chance we'd have to do both 
differentiating the bodies would be so limiting
fuck I just want ambiguous gender cat, but you're right the genders do have different abilities
same
i also want 1 unfezant and 1 shellos and gastrodon, but alas
enby cat fusions would go hard, it's a similar argument to gastrodon not being split because there are so many different sea slugs to take inspiration from
oh same braincell
1 oricorio could've led to a lot of dance style fusions, but i imagine it'd be difficult to clock as oricorio headwise
i am very glad we got 1 rotom, though
born to sprite appliances, forced to sprite lawnmowers
fym joining Ruby that shit was almost 4 months ago

I mean while it was happening not right now of course
I ended up on Emerald, though I did consider Ruby
definitely solid picks
I can't talk my ass is biased
My main emerald pick was sigilyph
archeops ftw
but i am clearly very happy w the two we got 
also baller picks!
man I just want all the mons right now there is no bad Pokemon, but I understand spriter overload would suck and a lot of the less popular mons would never get sprited
I should drop all the actual if sprites I have planned and just sprite non-if forever
I say working on a non-if sprite
I find "spriter overload" to be a funny reason cuz they announce that all the missing hoenn mons +chingling was gonna be in the game at once. Around 60+mons in one go

yeah, and it's resulted in a good chunk of those mons having less than 150 sprites total for them
if that
it's a shame, and by no means a dash towards anyone
it's just bound to happen when that many mons are added at once
i mean yeah it's not like any of them have been completely neglected
tbh, i'd like us to get to 75% completion before new 'mons are added 
rather than 50%
better playere experience
we can't expect them to be at the same level that the mons that have been here for years and years are at
that would be nice, yeah!
Forget the players I want my rock crab 
I never said I was expecting them to be, but gradual additions made it easier to circumvent the issue
I will note
I say issue very loosely
it isn't a problem, all mons are good mons
