event-general

[rapid knot]

A rabbithole led me to this:
https://xkcd.com/simplewriter/
Maybe we should write our contest rules using this

What are you crying about?

You seeing something I don't?

[merry mica]

was hoping for higher scores

i was so proud of this one

[rapid knot]

Higher than 8?

[mighty stump]

For what it's worth those are high scores

[plucky arch]

i left for a lil bit a while back

[rapid knot]

I'm having fun rewriting the spritober flag contest rules to fit the thing explainer requirements
I'll show you guys when I'm done

[signal nexus]

also followed a rabbit hole to the verizonmath website and the caller got this zinger in their email exchange:

If you have any problems understanding this, please leverage someone from your accounting department to help you understand it, as I'm sure they know the difference between dollars and cents.

[hushed stream]

22 minutes into this call and I'm about to pull my hair out

[rapid knot]

The Spritober Flag Contest rules using only the ten-hundred most commonly-used words in the English language

I forgot that Discord makes text documents suuuuuper horizontal
Wait a moment

[signal nexus]

do the ``` thing

[signal nexus]

So, you're wondering about the waving-shape be-better-than-others-game...
This year, instead of the normal waving-shape for your rushes, since this isn't your normal rush shape, I suggest to you, my other point-art-makers...

...The 2025 Point-Art-Fall-Month Rush Waving-Shape Be-Better-Than-Others-Game!
Ways you have to play:
- Must be point-art art
- Must use at least 2 of the Pocket Creatures from the Point-Art-Fall-Month 2025 rushes (Small-Bone-Spirit, Grey-Spirit, Fire-White-Short, Not-Real, stone-eyes, 108-Spirits)
- Your waving-shape should be made in 58 by 44 points and made big by 8 more (that's 800%, or 464 by 352 points!) You can also do it at 116 by 88 points, made big by 4 (that's still 464 by 352 points!)
- The waving-shape image itself has to be exactly 512 by 384! Also, it has to be right positioned! The comes-with shapes are at full point-size and right size (All team waving-shapes and rush waving-shapes are also Pocket-Creature cards, so you know).
- You must put your computers-talking-together using-name on your try!
- No not-real-thinking of any sort (causes-bad by death)[by death I mean a now go-away]{by an now go-away, I mean a forever now go-away}
- 1 try for each person, but you are allowed to work together with as many people as you want! Must be made after the saying.

[rapid knot]

Oh, thank you

[signal nexus]

"Be-Better-Than-Others-Game" we're cutting right to the bone here, aren't we

[rapid knot]

Trying to name Pokémon like this is hard

I'm gonna do the first 150 pokemon
Just for fun

[hushed stream]

didn't realize that 2025 was so commonly used

[rapid knot]

I think it counts digits separately

small-not-yet-grow-green, not-yet-flower-green, big-flower-green,
This is already a start, isn't it

[signal nexus]

added in the bullet points for reading comprehension

[signal nexus]

is "baby" not in the most common words?

[rapid knot]

That's an idea

[signal nexus]

baby-flower-frog

dunno if frog is

[rapid knot]

Frog isn't one

[signal nexus]

i'm betting "lizard" isn't either

[rapid knot]

You guys are welcome to work on the other gens

[signal nexus]

Black-Eye is literally sableye

huh.
plant isn't one

[rapid knot]

I used Stone-Eyes for Sableye in the rules up there

It's less literal and more descriptive

[signal nexus]

:nodnod:

[rapid knot]

gun-blue-animal
Guess

[signal nexus]

y'know
i was going to say remoraid before i figured "fish" was probably in the vocabulary set

[signal nexus]

actually, i wondered if "lightning-mouse" would work, and it turns out no
but "flash bird" could work for zapdos; "flash cat-dog" for jolteon
god, would the closest to mouse really be "small-animal"?

[rapid knot]

I've just been using small-animal

[south meteor]

Congratulations to the winners~

[signal nexus]

wait we need to simplify

i got it

[dusk scroll]

Well I'm glad some of the judges realized that one on my Food Fight entries was in fact a PMD reference.

[rapid knot]

A few

[rapid knot]

I realized that I was looking at a list of evolution families instead of the dex, so that's what you get:

[plain wing]

That more word :(

[bronze vine]

I know I’m late but
????
I literally used Vaporeon’s face from the anime at this angle for reference 😭

I didn’t think my first (and now only) contest submissions would be this bad

[kindred valley]

contest feedback can be interesting sometimes
i enter them and take in the feedback, but i also try not to take it too personally XD

e.g. i didn't think the form-changing paintbrush gimmick was that odd? although i could have made the guy be mid-paint stroke i guess.

[bronze vine]

I mean yeah those seem a bit nitpicky to me

[hushed stream]

yeah and they though paper mache was an inappropriate medium to choose

[bronze vine]

I got some good feedback i definitely will take into accounting

But some just genuinely confused me

How a creature with a animal like nose can have a human face confuses me to no end

[hushed stream]

fwiw though i also thought that face looked pretty human 🤭

[bronze vine]

I’m genuinely baffled

[hushed stream]

i think from the front if you can't see the snout the features flatten in a way that you have to make up for some other way

[bronze vine]

Ah yes, a human face definitely has this anatomy

So does every eeveelution from the front look human? 😭

[hushed stream]

I'm actually curious now, do you still have that anime screenshot?

i wanna see if it looks human too and if not what makes your art hit that uncanny valley zone

enough people draw humans with triangle noses and :3 shaped mouths that those don't really register to me as exclusively animal

on the other hand, the proportions of the face are something I don't usually see on animals, especially with how flat the face appears

[bronze vine]

Certainly not on real animals no, but these creatures and the anime like style they’re drawn in?

Like I cannot register this as a human face I’m sorry

[hushed stream]

hmm i think the eyelids and eyes with black puplis on your sprite are contributing a lot

you also changed the angle of the eye

i did this to try to understand better. i really think it's all in the eyes paired with the fact the face is flat

[bronze vine]

The eyes have lumineon’s lidded eyes
I wouldn’t not add that personally but that’s a me thing when designing fusions

I still don’t get human personally but atp I just kind of don’t like these fusions anyway so I might scrap them

[hushed stream]

aw i really liked it!

[hazy tapir]

When you think you have a good chance in the concept art contest but do badly…

Now all my confidence is resting on fanart. If I don’t do well in that… well I’m gonna be crushed because I’m a professional artist and my career rides on my art skill.

[astral niche]

People didn’t understood my macaron

I thought I was clever

but guess it isn't that popular outside of france

it's totally not because I'm bad

I knew I wouldn't rank too high but I'm suprised so many judge did not see the macaron

[glass zenith]

if serves as consolation I did good but a impartial judge gave me a 6

[cloud solstice]

ngl I'm french and I thought it was a poffin and not a macaron
-# I did not judge that one just to be clear

[lament matrix]

Lol thats why I didnt win one event

[astral niche]

Lol

They both are close so that’s better

[tame egret]

Where are they though

[rapid knot]

There's not really enough room in a comments box for a whole technical analysis of a sprite. Comments are supposed to be an extra piece of advice helping to explain why the judge gave the score they did

[dreamy loom]

I don't think I could enter a contest without crying myself to sleep after losing

[signal nexus]

yeah, they're not for the faint of heart, alas

[tame egret]

fair enough, it's just a bit of a shame when you get these comments but then have no clue how you're meant to improve, i didn't even shade this sprite i just made the outlines but it still hurts not knowing how to actually get better

[signal nexus]

@cedar quest you linked the judge's sheet twice for concept art results instead of the drive.

dug up the drive back when the contest was announced: #event-announcements message

y'know what? shoutout to Milchik for using the female frillish for gallade and the male for gardevoir

[rigid abyss]

look at the one chanso and i got

[agile quest]

new non-IF prize hunter update #1355989314290450452

why am i posting it here you ask? well its a fake fan event and i cant post in recurring events lol

[mystic mauve]

this time around I only looked at the scores i got and not at my placements; literally didn't open the tab
felt a ton better

[tame egret]

i think they mean that the tassels on the side eye guys go straight down for a little too long? idk

[signal nexus]

tangents are overlapping elements that aren't supposed to be connected
for example, is the whisker supposed to be connected to the bottom tip of the tail?

[lament matrix]

Map update
#1355989314290450452 message

[tame egret]

ah that makes sense

[agile quest]

beat you to it lol

[tame egret]

when i heard tangent i thought they meant like a literally 90 degree line from something

[signal nexus]

i don't know if the term is ever explained in the guidelines or smth

[lament matrix]

Oh lol

[rigid abyss]

thats perpendicular

[lament matrix]

In germany we say
Doppelt hält besser
Double works better

[tame egret]

well yes but a tangent is also a 90 degree line to a circle so i thought they just meant random 90 degree lines where there shouldn't be

[rigid abyss]

?tag tangents

[urban knot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1090199696179470406/1097739278018158672/Tangents_Yay_and_Nay.png?width=676&height=676

[rigid abyss]

oh it is? lol idk

[signal nexus]

or as my dad says
"I'm reiterating it. Reiterating it."

[tame egret]

this is a tangent

[rigid abyss]

ohhh that

[signal nexus]

well, it's 90 degrees to a circle only because the only way a line can hit a circle in one spot is if it's perpendicular to the radius

[oblique heath]

AB ∩ γ0 = C

[tame egret]

which is how you can integrate b^2-4ac=0 into the equation of a circle

[signal nexus]

-# i don't speak Greek

[oblique heath]

and i did maths

[tame egret]

since the resulting quadratic of the points of intersection between the line and the circle will have one solution only

[agile quest]

i vaguely remember this from geometry

[signal nexus]

a tangent is also when you go off-topic from a conversation

[tame egret]

just like how we've gone off on a tangent from the event

[mystic mauve]

well, a tangent starts at one point (in the conversation) and then heads straight to absolutely nowhere

[mighty stump]

Mmm yummy tangents

[quartz pebble]

I used to love hit the tangent in smash bros

https://tenor.com/view/samus-aran-super-smash-bros-melee-targets-target-samus-gif-24111932

[dreamy loom]

I fucking hate math why are we talking about tangents 🥀

[quartz pebble]

I've not even learnt about them yet but I've seen them

[mighty stump]

I probably learned them and then promptly forgot everything about them djnsjsjssjsk

Numbers do not agree with me

[quartz pebble]

Same here

[dreamy loom]

?tag tangents

[urban knot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1090199696179470406/1097739278018158672/Tangents_Yay_and_Nay.png?width=676&height=676

[quartz pebble]

Is this some kind of secret 3rd lost art tangent I don't know about?

I know there's a maths and a conversation one who keeps making tangents mean different things?

[mighty stump]

Well you see when they sat down to define a tangent they kept going on tangents

[quartz pebble]

Tangentception

This is starting to scare me now how many tangents are there

[mighty stump]

The world will never know...

[quartz pebble]

Maybe they're all sealed in that lost section of the soul mine

Also epic Segway incoming here...

Speaking of going off on tangents there's another event that's happening right now and I need the help of spriters

The RPG's best team (the salty spriters) need your help to make support sprites for our team

Please come to #1378122618196066414 and make sprites according to the categories in the support sprite document, and list them as support sprites for salty spriters

Thanks in advance

-# and after every entry you can get a custom dex entry for one of your mons made by me

[signal nexus]

-# *segue

[quartz pebble]

-# ohhh I did the wrong segue didn't I

https://tenor.com/view/niles-crane-coming-entrance-cool-gif-13489289

[dreamy loom]

seg

[astral niche]

#1231600209415634984 has a spooky event if you wanna participate https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fQviN7lBWYm7ySYflLOtGBDEurimDddx60RyfFnbB5g/edit?gid=1251675489#gid=1251675489

[cedar quest]

oops will fix later

[rapid knot]

Also this from spriting resources helps to explain tangents

||I just noticed a typo in this for the first time 💀 ||

[lament matrix]

Does someone want to adopt a Monke #1355989314290450452 message

[mighty stump]

I like this more than what comes up if you tag tangents, since this also mentions that you can use tangents to your benefit depending on what you're doing.

[signal nexus]

I always see this as a sketch of Alphys

[mighty stump]

No one can escape Undertale

Everything is Undertale

Undertale will get you

[lethal oak]

https://tenor.com/view/spooky-scary-skeletons-spookay-dancing-gif-8654420

[waxen echo]

https://tenor.com/8tSh.gif

[spiral harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-dance-halloween-party-2023-warsaw-gif-14445693156833998421

[lament matrix]

#1355989314290450452 message Non If Prize Hunter just updated!
Why I write it here? Well I cant write it in #recurring-events since its a fan prize hunter

[lament matrix]

#1355989314290450452 message Non If Prize Hunter just updated!
Why I write it here? Well I cant write it in ⁠#recurring-events since its a fan prize hunter

[potent sorrel]

(a)GordoGamR
Fan Art Results when

[signal nexus]

what other results do we have, btw? Fan Art and?

[potent sorrel]

Uh

LC Results When

[signal nexus]

that one's to @tall moss

[potent sorrel]

Oh uh
April Fools Results when

[signal nexus]

that one i don't know

[cedar quest]

shshwshdhsahsshshshhshffff ughghh

@potent sorrel

What could've prompted this????

[potent sorrel]

No idea

[signal nexus]

what cat are you trying to lure with that?

[potent sorrel]

Apparently you

[quartz pebble]

Gordo I still never got my turkey sandwich in the mail you need to hurry that up bro

[cedar quest]

Can't send perishable by mail

[potent sorrel]

I want to mail the word Perishable as a joke to spite you now

Just for the bit

[quartz pebble]

Just vacuum seal it

[spiral harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/mail-download-send-letter-email-gif-9007340091789372478

[quartz pebble]

Knowing Gordo they'd say they'd mail it to me and I'd get the results of the mail about a year later

[signal nexus]

just send turkey seeds
make EvilGammon grow the turkey themself

[quartz pebble]

I'll take the egg and raise the turkey sandwich from birth

[mighty stump]

One day Gordo will get sick of our nonsense and destroy event-general snxjmsisjdjs

[quartz pebble]

Why would Gordo ever get sick of us?

[rigid abyss]

Obviously it'll be gordo that gets us sick

[signal nexus]

computer virus...

[quartz pebble]

Must've been in the turkey sandwiches

[lament matrix]

#1355989314290450452 message Non If Prize Hunter just updated!
Why I write it here? Well I cant write it in ⁠⁠#recurring-events since its a fan prize hunter

[cedar quest]

My tree dude would be one of those cool free toolbar mouses

[idle forge]

Use this for spritelock

[rapid knot]

He blinks when you click

[cedar quest]

.... i'm gonna have to look into actually making a "me" cursor, huh

because now i want to

[naive viper]

I’d use it

[cedar quest]

holy shit

.... how can I screenshot my cursor....

hmmm....

aha

I got it

so retro....

[cedar quest]

oh my goodness

I now have... an animated cursor as well...

I will not be stopping here, I have more I want to do

man... y'all were so right

I am computer virus....

[dreamy loom]

[lament matrix]

#1355989314290450452 message
4 unclaimed Pokemon maybe is someone interested

[lament matrix]

#1355989314290450452 message Non If Prize Hunter just updated!
Why I write it here? Well I cant write it in #recurring-events since its a fan prize hunter

[signal nexus]

oh nice i need jirachi head

[rigid abyss]

Come help us out in https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1378122618196066414 for a concept art request from me! ||im sleeepy rn ||

[echo peak]

Anyone else that joins in to do support sprites, do some sprites for our team

[sly shuttle]

Or my team

We got the salt

https://tenor.com/view/garganacl-salt-cure-beam-salt-hands-gif-6222375103413033109

[echo peak]

Someone's team besides quakken (no offense but goddamn there's bias)

[cedar quest]

It seems like.... I slept through my alarm today

Oppa no spritelock today

[gleaming sand]

holy shit i just realized there was an event

and now all sheets are over 90% completed

[cloud solstice]

you can still grab one of the few unclaimed pkm

[gleaming sand]

I'll take a look at the sheets in a bit then

if meloetta or necrozma are still unclaimed i could try those

[sly shuttle]

To be fair, they started at 70-80%

[torpid verge]

spritelock when then (/lh)

[lament matrix]

#1355989314290450452 message Non If Prize Hunter just updated!
Why I write it here? Well I cant write it in #recurring-events since its a fan prize hunter

[dreamy loom]

<@&306953740651462656>

Oh

I was too slow

[minor garnet]

Dont randomly tag all mods cali

[mighty stump]

The overworld encounters in pif Hoenn look awesome

[quartz pebble]

They're personalities are really fun too lmao

[mighty stump]

The wingulls should all bombard you if you have snacks in your bag

[quartz pebble]

You find shuckle in a Berry bush making juice

[cyan gull]

This is what I said

[naive viper]

Pory and I had a whole conversation about seagulls being dicks

[tame egret]

seagulls aren't dicks they're just motivated

[naive viper]

They’re dicks

[quartz pebble]

I agree

[kindred tinsel]

I concur

[signal nexus]

conkeldurr?

[rapid knot]

Seagull personality varies by region

https://tenor.com/view/seagull-dance-when-jam-comes-on-w-ild-animals-funny-animals-gif-8510946

[quartz pebble]

They're all jackasses, some just have personality quirks

[broken robin]

I had a seagull snatch a burger from my hands once

[quartz pebble]

I bought a slice of pizza and a seagull just pooped on it, didnt even take it just ruined my meal

Just got airstriked by that prat of a seagull for the hell of it

[tame egret]

I once got pooped on by a bird

Very bad experience

It was in my hair

[quartz pebble]

It's a cannon event seagull poop will always ruin your day once

Luckily I didn't actually get pooped on, I'd put my pizza down for a sec I wasn't holding it at the time

[quartz pebble]

I can imagine that would be real rough

[rigid abyss]

Ive never once seen a seagull

[quartz pebble]

Your not missing out on anything dw

[cloud solstice]

I also got pooped in my hair by a bird -10/10 would not recommend 🤢

also saw someone have a bird poop on their cutlery in a restaurant

[quartz pebble]

Did it fly through the door

[cloud solstice]

nah it was outside
never go touch grass ppl, it's not worth it

[sly shuttle]

Double negative
You’re telling people to get bird poop in their hair daily

[signal nexus]

nah, they're separate thoughts

[cloud solstice]

Na there no double negative

[rich hemlock]

I am here to join the been pooped on by seagull club

Was in the outside seating of a restaraunt before the food came out

rip my hair

idk what I did to deserve this seagull but I still remember

[naive viper]

^

[dreamy loom]

i love seagulls

we trained them to be dicks

its our fault

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-floette-wingull-az-floette-bullying-gif-13922868973265927027

[astral niche]

They are the rats of the sky

Pet rats are better then them

[white wagon]

In Poland, they're pretty chill towards people

But I've heard stories of small dogs or pigeons being taken away or eaten whole by some large individuals

I like em

[cinder stag]

isnt that pelicans

[white wagon]

Nah, I'm talking seagulls, there are no pelicans here as far as I'm aware

Just huge, hungry seagulls

But they don't mess with humans, interestingly enough, rather they'd go through trash and not steal burgers from your hands directly or smth

[white wagon]

They even laugh at you, they're cewl

[minor garnet]

mods change this channel to seagull-general

[white wagon]

Wingull > anything

[quartz pebble]

Or just make a new one

[dreamy loom]

pet rats are awesome

dont you dare fucking shit on either one

[cyan gull]

[dreamy loom]

YEAHHHH

[quartz pebble]

I just a want a real life ratatouille that would be awesome

[cyan gull]

go to restaurant

now if you meant Remi, go to a shitty restaurant

[quartz pebble]

I never thought of that

Your so wise

[dreamy loom]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-rat-gif-12738335438094428487

how could you hate this guy

[long basin]

https://tenor.com/view/post-this-cat-when-they-least-expect-it-post-this-cat-sugar-glider-gif-5038933425073049127

[signal nexus]

that's not a cat. that's emolga

[rapid knot]

It's too cute to be Emolga

[slate otter]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-emolga-cute-anime-gif-23364796

[cinder stag]

a seagull that takes a small dog must be huge indeed

[astral niche]

Agreed

I don’t want to have one tho , they have a life so short I couldn’t bear the pain

[white wagon]

Same thing my gf says, I'd love to have rats again one day

[bitter kindle]

I love pet rats, I've had around 10 or so in my life so far. c:

I only have one older lady atm, Cream, and she's easily one of the best rats that has ever existed.

[dreamy loom]

awww

[old creek]

hii

anyone onine

??

[mighty stump]

We're always online

Scrurrying in the internet cables

Waiting to strike when you least expect it

[rigid abyss]

Boo

[quartz pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-rats-the-rats-are-coming-the-rat-is-coming-cheese-gif-6284186146533419373

[topaz quest]

Hmm?
Someone has foreseen my emergence

[rigid abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-rat-rat96-råttmos-hello-råttmos-gif-17069539795077163404

[topaz quest]

Hiii

[minor garnet]

My eminemace

[subtle moss]

@cyan gull for the Spritober Rush Flag Contest, am I allowed to use fusions, or does it have to be the original mons?

[subtle moss]

for the record, I would be making new fusions using only the 6 mon provided

[slender thunder]

rat chat?

[cyan gull]

You can use fusions

[subtle moss]

Ok, good to know

[dreamy loom]

rat?

[cyan gull]

[lament matrix]

#1355989314290450452 message Non If Prize Hunter just updated!
Why I write it here? Well I cant write it in #recurring-events since its a fan prize hunter

[spiral harbor]

A blank version of the it has ended screenshot for your editing convenience >w<

[icy jasper]

The prize is a poll

[plain wing]

To do more spriting work

[minor garnet]

Your prize for spending money is more money

-the lottery

[astral niche]

People that want a community voted don’t understand how much better 6 separate contest are

[signal nexus]

explain

[astral niche]

6 is better then one

[cedar quest]

imsorry6whatnow

Oh.

[astral niche]

Contest

[cedar quest]

If that wins y'all are seeing the Fusion Day Mon contests till like next year

[astral niche]

They get reveal on 8 7

[quartz pebble]

Imagine all the "Gordo when is x result" you'll hear

I wasn't gonna vote because I'm not a spriter but I've been convinced 6>1

[cedar quest]

it's really not.

[hushed stream]

yeah tbh I'm considering voting for something just to try to make it so we don't have 6 contests because that sounds like. so mean to the judges

[urban siren]

6 contests are very tough to both spriters and judges

[cedar quest]

yeah truth be told... we should probably nuke that option

[sly shuttle]

So much work for the judges
So little work for the spriters because they already made their entries during the rush

[signal nexus]

but then you'll only have five options. where's mimikyu's?

[mighty stump]

6 contests but they're mimikyu, mimikyu 2, mimikyu the prequel, mimikyu the sequel², mimikyu the 3rd, and mimikyu 666

[signal nexus]

then which option is duskull's?

🤔
judged contest - duskull
community contest - spiritomb
speed spriter - dusclops
flag reopening - mimikyu
6 contests - sableye
glow-up - litwick

[tulip tusk]

idk how itd be done but maybe voting for the prize should have just been for those who participated in the event lol

[mighty stump]

Could've used a role like last time?

Like when the teams for fusion day had their own chats

[signal nexus]

• judged contest = duskull because it doggedly pursues its victim 'til sunrise like a judge seeking a sole winner
• community-voted = spiritomb because it's a collection of 108 spirits
• speed spriter = dusclops, which can absorb anything into itself like a black hole, effectively being faster than light since light can't escape a black hole
• flag extension = mimikyu because it makes its own costume
• 6 contests = sableye because it's associated with gems and therefore greed
• glow-up = litwick for self-explanatory reasons
  you are free to come up with better justifications, as i had to stretch a fuckton

[cyan gull]

There's an upper limit of 600 sprites to be judged if we allow all the rush sprites in

[urban siren]

what will happen if there are too few entries in a contest?

[elder marlin]

Results come out 1 second earlier

[sly shuttle]

No work for judges

[rigid abyss]

Everyone wins

[minor garnet]

April fools contest is gonna take longer than LC!

[subtle moss]

the whole contest was a gag, we will never get the results.

[mighty stump]

We are the true fools

[cinder stag]

this implies results are coming out

[cinder stag]

almost like... april fools

I HAVENT FORGOTTEN GORDO

[gusty frost]

we have vod?

[torpid osprey]

Yes. Check out the Youtube channel

The full stream is on there. The full Pory and Paya package with a Gordo impression that's pretty spot on

[ancient palm]

music and writing contest found dead in a ditch

[agile quest]

new non-IF prize hunter update weee #1355989314290450452 message

[hollow grove]

I voted for 6 contests

[tame egret]

i just voted 6 since if there's 1 i know i have no shot of winning

[tulip tusk]

april fools contests rotting just under them

[icy jasper]

~~ gta 6 will release before we get april fools contest results ~~

[slender thunder]

april fools 😭

[ancient palm]

see the april fools contest results are well known its a meme but nobody remembers the music and creative writing contest

probably because there was like 2 entries

[sly shuttle]

In the absence of little cup, we got 3 new contests in limbo

[ancient palm]

oh dont forget the fanart contest

[sly shuttle]

Fanart just needs 5 more judges
Trust

[tame egret]

i'll judge(i'm completely unqualified)

[oblique heath]

me too! (i'm even more unqualified )

unless i gotta judge columns, i'm good at identifying n judging them

[cyan gull]

The what?

[ancient palm]

huh must of been the wind

[cyan gull]

Dw, I won both

[quartz pebble]

The true twist is that we all won together

[cedar quest]

yeah

y'all joke about April Fools, but like
these are the two that are genuinely never getting stuff

[cedar quest]

-# oh thank goodnes we don't gotta do 6 contests

[elder marlin]

Why was that even an option

That actually seems like hell for you guys

[sly shuttle]

Could we at least get an announcement to say that they’re dead?

[mighty stump]

Can we get a collage with all of them together?

Actually... If nothing is being done with the entries, I'd be happy to make an April Fools collage

Just would take a while considering what's currently in my display name lol

But what's another few months of wait

[cedar quest]

What? I never said that?

[mighty stump]

Oh my bad I misread as April Fools also having nothing done with it

[cedar quest]

Like Music and Writing Contest got like.... not a lot of entries, and they run into a similar problem that we are literally having with Fan Art rn of

We judge sprites and anything outside of that area we.... can't really judge reasonably??

I mean hell, maybe Writing could be judged by the Unowns????

[mighty stump]

Yeah I imagine the pokedex entry people would be better at judging writing

[plain wing]

Yeah music is genuinely just down to personal taste most of the time

[mighty stump]

I know me and a couple of my friends have very different taste

[signal nexus]

do a showcase rather than a judgement?

"here's what we liked about XYZ"

[cedar quest]

I'll be honest

I don't really know anything about... those two contests anyways

I don't even know where the stuff for 'em... are????

[mighty stump]

To be honest judging art is always subjective we just have actual guidelines we follow for sprites and a style we're trying to mostly stay close to

[cedar quest]

Yeah that's what I mean

Like we have spriting guidelines and judging guidelines for sprites and

[signal nexus]

and even then the judges sometimes go off script

[sly shuttle]

You should release the judging guidelines for fan art

That won’t cause drama

[signal nexus]

1. Entries must employ digital media

[urban siren]

what about the spritober flag contest?

[sly shuttle]

…
…
I guess we should get to the judging then

[rigid abyss]

Should be simple enough

There's literally 3 entries (iirc)

[plush vale]

third place gonna be so proud

[signal nexus]

i read that right as the hbomberguy video i've been watching got to the montage of Tommy Tallarico saying "My mother's very proud"

[potent sorrel]

It would be a little funny if the mega group did all that work and didn't get first

[tame egret]

Maybe they should actually get more judges like ask for volunteers and then judge them based on experience and maybe a test to see if they’re good fits, that way it’d be easier to handle all of the events

[south meteor]

They do recruit new judges every once in a while. I won't apply until I win a contest even though any of the top 3 medals is a qualifier. I think applicants also need to have sprited a good amount of sprites.

[rigid abyss]

u can apply as a judge?

[south meteor]

Only when applications open up.

I remember they reopened during the summer.

[rigid abyss]

huh. never once seen even a hint of being able to apply to be a judge lol

[south meteor]

Contest judges, lmk if I'm wrong about the timing for judge apps.

[near horizon]

ngl, i don't even know who's a judge x)

[signal nexus]

sure ya do. we got Buffet, Soup Connoisseur, Marmalade, Jelly, A Real Cheese, Oshiruko, and A fly in your soup

[tame egret]

why would i want a fly in my soup to judge sprites, i don't think they're even a judge of good hygiene

[plain wing]

Erm… it's a raisin, not a fly. No refund

[slender thunder]

Community vote based sprite contest won
time to not participate anyways because uhh ew commnunity voted more like cool mon voted am i right

[plain wing]

I had no chance of participating in any of the contests anyway so it's really nbd to me

[signal nexus]

everyone has to submit mimikyu bodies to the contest
there we go we've lowered the playing field

leveled. leveled the playing field. that's the word i'm looking for

[slender thunder]

Then I can't make a Sandshrew body fusion smh why arent you thinking of us starved sandshrew body spriters

[signal nexus]

good! i still need sandshrew body for doubledex!

[slender thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/looney-tunes-looney-toons-ill-steal-it-now-one-will-ever-know-gif-15336046070651704750

[tame egret]

but then the only way you win is refinement and i'm bad at that

[signal nexus]

well what are you good at and we'll center the contest around that

[tame egret]

uhhh

[slender thunder]

Making sprites in Mister Gill style contest

[tame egret]

i actually don't know what i'm good at 😭

[signal nexus]

we center the contest around head/body ambiguity and i'm sure to win

[tame egret]

these are some of my best recent sprites

[slender thunder]

im not sure what my strengths and weaknesses even are myself

[signal nexus]

sandshrew bodies. easy

[slender thunder]

actually i think im alright at shading but proportions screw me over

uhh I've gotten better at clarity I think

[tame egret]

i'm good at colours i guess?

[slender thunder]

my ''style'' doesn't show through perfectly in all my sprites (probably because I use bases for some of them) but I think my zubats are the best example of my style despite having made way more sandshrew

or why not just do both at the same time

[tame egret]

you're good at texturing

[minor garnet]

Not good at making ice type fakemon tho

[dreamy loom]

True!

[white wagon]

Not showing 'your' style is actually a strong thing, making it blend with GF original style

[mighty stump]

@supple mulch Happy birtday! 🎉

[supple mulch]

Thanks

[potent sorrel]

Happy Birthday!!!

[supple mulch]

Thanks

[cyan gull]

[quartz pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-birthday-bon-anniversaire-birthday-cake-birthday-birthday-fiesta-gif-12707264612877386805

[supple mulch]

Thanks everyone

[tired jay]

Happy day of birth

[supple mulch]

Thanks

[signal nexus]

Congrats on the perambulation around the plasma orb

[rapid knot]

Is your birthday the 13th or the 12th?
Asking because of timezones

Also, I was at a birthday party today
It would be interesting if you had the same birthday as them

[rigid abyss]

Maybe onix is actually them

[rapid knot]

Not possible

This person doesn't like Pokémon

[signal nexus]

it's a fiendish double-bluff!

[cyan gull]

Maybe they're a closet Pokémon fan

[cerulean prawn]

Maybe they're a long lost twin

[rigid abyss]

maybe theyre lost

[plain wing]

Maybe they're long

[ancient palm]

Maybe i’m long

[signal nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-deltarune-chapter-4-jackenstein-your-taking-too-long-gif-4400881017461041719

[naive viper]

Pokémon fans? In my pokemon fangame discord? Not on my watch

[mighty stump]

Welp, it was nice knowing you everyone. Sapphire is going to banish us all to the distortion realm.

[cyan gull]

It's okay, I'll protect 3 of you

[rigid abyss]

Only 3? Damn

What about thw rest of us

[cyan gull]

I guess it's a fight to be under my protection

[whole arrow]

Are there taxes there

[mighty stump]

...Okay everyone suddenly I think we should all go to the distortion realm!

[signal nexus]

then who maintains the infrastructure?

[rapid knot]

No, Pory's saying he's only protecting me

[burnt current]

You, we're gonna leave you behind to maintain it.

[cedar quest]

Here's our new suggestion form for events!!

If you've ever had an idea for an event or contest, and wanted to share it - this form is the place to do so!!

Just put in your discord username, and your idea!!!
-# We even got a second space to further elaborate on more complex ideas.

The things you submit in this form don't just have to be ideas for events - they can be anything event-related that you want to tell us about for better or worse!!
-# "All info is useful info."

[burnt current]

I sent something via the form, not entirely sure I used the form for its intended purpose tho lol

[plain wing]

Yeah I'm not sure the intended use or not either lmao

[cedar quest]

You did 👍

[cedar quest]

You uhhh.... I'm not seeing a response from you on the form

[plain wing]

I didn't submit anything yet I'm too scared of being wrong lmao

[cedar quest]

There's no wrong way to submit

Like you're not gonna get in trouble

[burnt current]

I mean.. if it is, Gordos right here anyway

[plain wing]

So is it something more "grand"/server-wide like fusion day or a rush or could I submit something I tried for mini spriter events but slightly tweaked and better

[plain wing]

See fundamentally I understand that
But I don't want to look like a fool

[cedar quest]

Like already I've gotten a submission on something that's not an event and instead gameplay

And I can't do that, but I'm not gonna ping the person and call 'em out

[burnt current]

Gordo I do have 1 question regarding this form. Is it gonna end up abandoned like the sprite status form, because as is its currently not been checked since september.

[cedar quest]

The good thing is unlike my POTW week thing is that the form collect responses automatically :tr

So this one can't be abandonded/ forgotten

Especially since I'll make sure it's always top of the pins here

And remind people it exists

[burnt current]

That one also collects the response in a sheet, its just nobody has touched it in forever lol

[cedar quest]

oh well I don't run that form

So still, nope

[tired jay]

Oh people will find the wrong way if bug reports is anything to go off on

[cedar quest]

This form will not be forgotten

[burnt current]

Honestly though 4 way oricorio could be cool. But like 1 mon is not a reason to add such a large feature.

[cedar quest]

maybe, maybe. But it won't do anything bad

[plain wing]

I still need this answered

[burnt current]

I think its just anything event related

[rapid knot]

https://tenor.com/view/uncle-roger-famous-last-words-gif-4408622650430723477

[rapid knot]

I can answer it

[cedar quest]

Anything event-related.

If you have an idea for a big server-wide event, submit it.

If it's questions about how some contest work, or concerns on things as they happen, submit 'em.

if you wanna know more about the judges, or how that works, ask those questions.

[rapid knot]

Just give a bit for me to actually type out a response

[cedar quest]

If it's anything that you want to know, ask it.
If it's anything you want to suggest, suggest it.

I'll do my best to answer all the questions I see, and I'll expand on the suggestions I like maybe

[burnt current]

This is kinda in the vein, but I always forget if things we submit for official contests get auto added or not. I don't really wanna make a whole form submission for that.

[cedar quest]

That they do not, they need to go in #sprite-gallery for that.

Or #assets-gallery if it's a base

[burnt current]

I probably should submit all my contests sprites then lol

[cedar quest]

But we haven't done a base contest in a while

[burnt current]

Albeit with some touchups given the judge feedback

[rapid knot]

If you want to see a mini-event running, the most important thing is someone who's willing to run it.
If you have an idea you're willing to run, just try running it in #recurring-events. If you prove that your event is popular and you're capable of managing it, you'll be approached to be a Mime Jr.
If you have an idea you're not willing to run, you need to find a user who is and convince them.

Otherwise, this form is mostly for any kind of serverwide event

[burnt current]

Im great at losing contests, my best placement is like 15th

[cedar quest]

I mean... it can also be for mini stuff too

[rapid knot]

It just seems weird to suggest something that you can already be doing without making a suggestion

[cedar quest]

It's for anything event-related

Whether it's asking for advice to get their mini-event started up
or even asking us for ideas on stuff and using the form in reverse

[rapid knot]

Like "I suggest that I give a spriting prompt every day"
Okay??? Just do it

[cedar quest]

There's always going to be werid suggestions, sure

But dumb suggestions? Never.

Not in this form

[burnt current]

Heres a really good question, Im currently in spriter telephone and am like 99% sure I know what the intended fusion is, but I really don't wanna concept that. Would it be wrong of me to purposely get it wrong?

[rapid knot]

I just don't want people to go "I can't wait for my idea for a user-run mini event to be approved so I can start running it"

[cedar quest]

Unless the suggestion explicitly says
This suggestion is intentionaly dumb

[rapid knot]

Morally wrong? Yeah, probably

[cedar quest]

yeah, probably

[burnt current]

But I don't wanna concept Mawile

Oh well

[rapid knot]

Technically wrong? I don't really remember any rules against it
It's just against the spirit of the game

[burnt current]

Time to concept it lol

[plain wing]

You aren't spriting it tho

[cedar quest]

If that happens - I'll make a PSA on it

[rapid knot]

That's the risk of Spriter Telephone

[burnt current]

I guess

[rapid knot]

Spriter Telephone is Pain Trade with more steps

[burnt current]

I will say though, figured the dex entry I recieved would have been far less obvious than a pretty much 1 to 1 of a mawile dex entry with some extra element from the body thrown in.

Concept time

[rapid knot]

I've seen enough dex entries not to be surprised

The essence of fusion entries is often the essence of fusion sprites

[plain wing]

I had to write eight dex entries before I could make something remotely guessable bc I was focused on behaviors lmao

[signal nexus]

it's been checked yesterday or smth

[plain wing]

I did hear tho that mods/admins weren't going to be handing out Mime Jr.s anymore bc a lot events are going on at once
It could've been a joke tho maybe? Idk, it seemed like a serious statement

[cedar quest]

You're not entirely wrong

Mods & Paya don't choose the Mimes.

Me n' Pory do, and that statement in question was from me

We do have a lot of events going on at once

But we're not gonna stop accepting Mimes outright

Just not as many as before

[plain wing]

Yeah so like
It seems like this form is the best place for me to submit an event I want to run and want to be server-wide lmao

[burnt current]

Kinda? Magikarp Mysteries sits in a ditch rn, and although Finish the Line is currently trying for a revival the fact it already died once isn't a great sign, plus, Prize Hunters technically offline till Grey's computer is fixed.

[south meteor]

WHOO, secret spriter returns!

[sly shuttle]

As prophesied

[cedar quest]

Yes and no?

I mean the best way to do an event is just... to do it.

I watch over Mini-Event to see what's goin' on, what people like and whether the people who run the event... continue to run the event consistently

It helps in that we can tell you where to improve/ what we still want to see from an event, but like

Just submitting to the form asking for an event to become official doesn't just magically make it official

[south meteor]

The event that got me back into spriting was a rush. I want more rushes.. but then I remember some spriters made a whopping 25 sprites and must be tired as heck while I only contributed like 3 sprites.

[burnt current]

I don't trust a single word you say Beautifly thief

[south meteor]

Sorry

[burnt current]

Its fine. I was procrastinating on the thing anyway

I do have concept art tho (if my scribbles really count as concept art anyway)

[cedar quest]

This mini-convo right here though shows that redoing the form was def an idea I like

Because it gets people asking questions

I'm off to bed for work, but I'll be sure to look at this again during my break

[echo peak]

I got my idea in the suggestion forum. It's pretty festive event and would be a fun idea.

(And for the results a fun but mean way of trolling people)

[mighty stump]

So if I had a mini event idea that I might do but want advice on how to best organize some parts of it, I can submit that to the form?

[cyan gull]

You could also DM one of us, if you plan on running it

[minor garnet]

If we all just suggest april fools results they cant ignore us anymore

[mighty stump]

I think that's how we all get kicked out of the server

[minor garnet]

VIVA LA REVOLUTION!!!

[hazy tapir]

Any word on the fanart contest results?

[mighty stump]

Not that I'm aware of

[minor garnet]

Well we know what to do

[hazy tapir]

Its literally the only contest I really care about because its the only one I have even the slightest chance of doing well in

And its looking like it might be like this april fools contest where the results just... don't come out

I worked really hard on my entry :/

[mighty stump]

Unfortunately a problem with the fanart contest is that there's an incredibly wide range of medium and style used in it, so it makes it hard to judge art made by completely different means against each other

I'm not sure what the progress is on judging it, but I imagine that's why it is taking a while

[cloud solstice]

for the fanart there's also the similar issue as with the trainer card and pc box bg contest where it's more delicate to judge bc unlike with sprites or concept there aren't really any precedents for judging these

[quartz pebble]

Guys if we ask Gordo enough times for a turkey sandwich contest it could become official

[mighty stump]

Should we submit that to the form?

[cedar quest]

Fan Art will come eventually... It might be not up to par with our other contests in terms of amount of judges, but it will come eventually.

As will April Fools, but for a... Different reason.

[rapid knot]

Part of the difficulty of finding judges is how many judges participated in Fan Art

[tame egret]

wait how many were there?

[solid coral]

As one of the people that made like 25 sprites for the rush, i loved it and i want another one

[tame egret]

ah

[cedar quest]

I am home from work

[little cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/im-proud-of-you-dan-levy-david-david-rose-schitts-creek-gif-15903585900511458533

[white wagon]

Hi home from work

[slender thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/pokémon-regieleki-hop-happy-hoppy-gif-608958956895366551

[little cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/im-proud-of-you-dan-levy-david-david-rose-schitts-creek-gif-15903585900511458533

[plucky arch]

yo

when family fuse 2

eh?

[cedar quest]

There's a suggestion form

[plain wing]

It's so that people can enter the sprites they made in the rush

[echo peak]

I know, just wanted to make the meme

(ok, I lied I didn't and just wanted to make it)

[urban siren]

i'm gonna make new entries for the contest cuz i didn't make any good ones for the rush

[south meteor]

Finally, I can upload to a drive without using the dang website in non-mobile mode!

[signal nexus]

mm, have i done any blitz sprites worth celebrating or getting more feedback on...

[lethal oak]

Hey guys! I'm Wildheart. I'm in charge of the Bi-weekly events Dexdoku and Spritedoku, and since Pory has been very busy lately and I primarily work the writing side of things, we have decided to recruit a new judge for Spritedoku. We currently have a backlog of a few weeks to go through, but the sooner we get a new judge on board, the more efficient and creative we can be in future rounds. Please reach out if you're interested in the position. Familiarity with the Spriting Guidelines is required.

[lethal oak]

Alright, a potential judge has been found, thank you everyone. Sorry to interrupt.

[cyan gull]

Willing sacrifices

[tame egret]

ooo new event

time to suffer from extreme decision paralysis 👍

[potent sorrel]

I just realized there's not a ruling against AI on the Sprite Rush Community Contest

Nah I would never, I'm not downloading that crap

[near horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/guillotine-france-robespierre-revolution-francaise-execution-gif-10731189492595691697

[potent sorrel]

*You're

[plain wing]

It is just against the general server rules tho, idk if it has to be said every time in every contest

[cedar quest]

Yeah, that.

It is against server rules, so if you do it - you'll be in trouble

But also because of that, we don't bother to list it everytime, like "No Collabs"

Because collabs aren't against server rules obviously

[slate otter]

Hi gordo

[cedar quest]

oppa oppa

[slate otter]

Oppa oppa

[plain wing]

Community vote to remove allowing collabs ( )

[wind lynx]

Yo, anyone has an explaination on how Secret Santa works? Joined in febuary this year so I totally missed the last one

And I want to be ready for when(I dont know) its happening!

[cloud solstice]

Basically ever participant gives a sprite request, then when the entering deadline is over, every participant is given one of the request to sprite (that isn't their own ofc)

Oh and if you enter but don't sprite, unless you have a valid reason you get banned for participating in events, so be sure you're ready to take on any possible request
-# I think there's way to chang requests but I'm not sure on that

[gaunt lava]

It always sounds really fun but I know I'm never gonna be able to sprite Dustox/Reshiram or something
-# turns out that already exists and has a sick sprite, which is cool

[cloud solstice]

I think the worst kind of request you could get would be getting a fusion combo you already made
I don't think it happened but I did get a request for doing a combo one of my friend did before

[wind lynx]

tbh, I wish the fusion combo IS complicated, I would feel pretty unsatisfied if I got like, pikachu/wrumple or smth

how much time do we usually get? I can only guess the majority of the month or smth

[minor garnet]

gangnam style

[rigid abyss]

I got slakoth/monferno last year and made a meh sprite lol meanwhile I saw fuking reshiram/klinklang and was like

[ancient palm]

i believe the fusion you get is weighted depending on what youre good at, like cutesy spriters get cute fusions and contest winners get insane shit

[wind lynx]

the I better get good before it starts!

(lol)

[ancient palm]

i only did secret santa backup last year but i think ill actyally participate this year

[rigid abyss]

then it makes sense what i was given i feel slightly insulted but considering my experience/quality back then i know for a FACT that i wouldve made a crappy thing

[oblique heath]

can i submit sprite n alt for the spritober contest or do i just send one?

[plain wing]

What do you mean

[wind lynx]

I guess they mean "if I made an main sprite, but also an alt of that same fusion, do I need to send both or can I just send one of them?"

[plain wing]

Ah

[south meteor]

Hoping I don't have to make an alt this year. 👀

Preferably a quadruped because I tend to avoid them and would appreciate the challenge. At least half-legendary, so a beast body would be cool.

[wind lynx]

I just want something cute tbh, I already make a lot of sprites "I usually wouldnt make" for events and challenges I do, so getting something I can "excel" at would be nice

[plain wing]

I will request a cute thing then to up your chances of getting one

[wind lynx]

And I guess I will then have to request a complicated quadruped, just to have good karma or smth

[rigid abyss]

just request cute mon/lurantis

[wind lynx]

you really dont know me uh
Im more confortable with Lurantis/mon
Lurant's body is... hard to work with for me

[rigid abyss]

noooooo im a fake friend

[plain wing]

Lurantis/Spheal
Make it r o u n d

[mighty stump]

I second this idea

[boreal mesa]

i enjoy drawing lurantis but i know very well that it would be hard to translate into pixels 😭

[wind lynx]

it has soo much layered on top of itself, it's more complicated then what at first look it would seem like

[wind lynx]

I meaaaaannnn if you wanna its litterally real free estate or whatever the kids say

[rapid knot]

I believe that the hardest few fusions go to more experienced spriters (or smth like that) but the rest of it is random

My randomly given prompt last time was to make any fusion with Regirock body

[swift token]

My last secret spriter was an easy shinx body

[subtle moss]

I honestly don't know if I should post a hard or an easy sprite

Maybe I'll just post a fusion with a silly name

[south meteor]

I ended up with a difficult body. The selector really trusts me for some reason.

[torpid osprey]

Well. I'm still waiting on my last Secret Spriter. At least I can annoy Gordo whenever I feel like it

I had Weedle/Kyogre. Really had to try to make something out of that. Also did a Delibird/Whimsicott as a last moment help for someone else who couldn't pull through

[subtle moss]

wasn't I the one who requested Weedle/Kyogre?

I don;t recall

Maybe I just vividly remember the sprite. 🤔

[tired jay]

my last was regice/moltres due to a mix up

[elder marlin]

Oh yeah lmao Gordo mixed you and fireblade up

[rapid knot]

Due to a mix-up in my first year of participating, three different people sprited my request

[plain wing]

Nice lmao

[elder marlin]

Lmao I reacted to that message where you first said that but completely forgot until I looked it up again

One of them wasn’t even for secret spriter lol

[torpid osprey]

Pretty sure it was your request, yeah

[cinder stag]

what was it

[cinder stag]

right that was you from whom i took it over i remember

speaking of secret spriter is that gonna go up soon i wonder

[elder marlin]

Reshiram/Umbreon

[cloud solstice]

how I remember seeing it multiple time, I just thought multiple ppl had that idea

[slender thunder]

If only

nah I'm fine with whatever this year
I'm just salty about getting tangrowth because i didn't know how to make tangrowth fusions

[broken robin]

sorry myst

[astral niche]

I’m so excited for secret spriter

I can’t wait

[slate otter]

I'm excited for you fellow kirby

[cedar quest]

It comes.... ever so closer...

[onyx path]

What's secret spriter?

[sly shuttle]

Secret Santa for spriters
Runs through the whole of December

[vocal frost]

Ohhh I didnt play secret spriter last year, now that im confident in my ability im for sure playing

[pastel slate]

haven't been here in a while, what's the difference between a regular and a bonus space

[iron raft]

Bonus spaces are for fusions that wouldn't exist naturally due to evolution levels

[pastel slate]

ah got it thanks

[dense jackal]

can the announcement put a date on "thanksgiving" for those who don't know when it is?

[orchid minnow]

^^^

[minor garnet]

@cedar quest

What tatl said

[cedar quest]

sure

[merry mica]

ur not allowed to know
its a surprise

[vocal frost]

Forwarding this 'cause new FtL definitely needs some advertising

[hushed stream]

omg one of my sprites is on that chart! maybe I should finish its line

[little cypress]

Holy YES!

[minor garnet]

my sprite is almost on there

[little cypress]

This flower is the most old-man look I've ever seen on a flower

[minor garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-gerson-boom-gerson-i'm-old-im-old-gif-13265713427338879500

[slender thunder]

i won the potw hehe
first time ever participating in it btw

[rigid abyss]

Lucky /lh

[oblique heath]

the same thing happened to me too

[tame egret]

wait when are the polls starting?

[cedar quest]

Tomorrow probably

I'm not home

[cedar quest]

I mean in theory I could technically do today

But it'd be really late

And I'd rather just do tomorrow at that point

[cyan gull]

At this point, just do them next month

[tame egret]

do them 3 weeks ago

[crystal folio]

do them in 1996

[wind lynx]

just submitted my secret spriter fusion!
You'll never guess what it is~~~

...It's secret after all.

[minor garnet]

Even to yourself

[slate otter]

I've also made a super secret sprite but it's SOO secret that NOBODY can see it mhm

[cloud solstice]

so secret not even you have seen it

[plain wing]

Blind spriting challenge

[plain wing]

Did a form get posted or am I missing something?

[rapid knot]

The only thing you're missing is that Kaede is making a joke

There is no secret spriter yet

[plain wing]

Okay cool

[rapid knot]

People are just getting hyped and joking about how their submissions are so secret they don't even exist yet

[plain wing]

Well ofc

[kindred valley]

what happens if two people request the same fusion? (statistically unlikely but you never know)

[torpid osprey]

Both will be asked if they have a second fusion in mind, fist to reply is change to the second option, that's how it was for me at least

[cedar quest]

mhm

While not likely, polls may not happen today, because something within the Spritober drive is causing my sheet maker to crash - meaning there's something wrong with one of the files

So I gotta go take it out

And then add it manually

huh.

I found it

And I have idea why it's crashing the program

Ok I fixed it! Was a canvas issue.

[molten vector]

oh no I didnt enter since I was away 😭

[echo peak]

I feel like I know the winners already

[cedar quest]

nooo Paya

[molten vector]

could have entered one of my litwicks, I was so proud of the fire, or my shuckle oh well

[rapid knot]

The fire on that chikorita is so nice

Remember people: vote for yourself
If you don't believe in yourself, nobody will

[potent sorrel]

"Maybe I'll move past round 1 this time"
looks inside
next to event winners once again
"Unfortunate"

Me not making it far again me thinkz

[echo peak]

Again the winners seem set in stone imo

[rapid knot]

That's just kind of how contests work

The people who are the best at the skill do the best job and win

[echo peak]

Eh I know, but im happy to see mine in at least even though they're not winners

[rapid knot]

I think most of the ones I voted for aren't the ones that'll win, but they're ones that I think would have done well in a judged contest

It comes down to which way the whitename wave sweeps the votes

"There's no accounting for taste" as they say

[broken robin]

Big

[echo peak]

Regardless, I didn't cheat and didn't vote my own because of fair voting and bias towards other amazing sprites

[broken robin]

You should always vote for yourself

[echo peak]

Nah

[rapid knot]

The system is already balanced for voting towards yourself

You have to assume that all of your competitors will vote for themselves

[kindred valley]

bruh 2/3 of my entries are way outclassed
(probably the 3rd one too but at least i feel comfortable voting for it)

[rapid knot]

Casual voters subconsiously look for the following two things:

1. Excellent composition clear at a glance (being larger makes it easier to see)
2. High-contrast colors that are pleasing to look at on their own

Litwick fusions will be at an advantage because of the purples compared to all the nearly monochrome ghosts, I think

[echo peak]

Guaranteed

[kindred valley]

i suspect spiritomb as well, but def suffers bc it doesn't have as much contrast as litwick

[plain wing]

Also fire pretty so there's that

[tame egret]

yeah i don't win this

[plain wing]

Which one did you submit?

[tame egret]

mine's b3

[kindred valley]

🤝
mine is ok in a vacuum but way not flashy enough (c3)

[tame egret]

this silly guy

[tame egret]

🫂

[kindred valley]

all the mimikyus are so fun, but i fear litwick was the strat for this vote

[plain wing]

Ahhh

[tame egret]

what actually is the fusion for b1 here it's talonflame and ???

[plain wing]

Honestly Sableye has a pretty good shot imo bc of the bright colors

[plain wing]

Spiritomb

[kindred valley]

depends on what you do w the sableye gems

[tame egret]

oh i see the rock now

[plain wing]

Yeah it took me a minute to see it too

[kindred valley]

anyway everyone should vote for the pebble

how does this vote work, is it top of each bracket or...?

[echo peak]

I just voted on what's what. If I DID vote on my own fusion, it'd be my Mimikyu/Gyarados but I didn't out of respect for the work put into other sprites

[cedar quest]

Day 1: Preliminaries: 1st sprite of each bracket goes to Semis, 2nd and 3rd ones go to Quarters, a phase of four brackets.
Day 2: Quarters: 1st, 2nd and 3rd sprite of each bracket go to Semis.
Day 3: Semis: 1st and 2nd go to Finals ((semis should be split into two brackets if required by the amount of entries))
Day 4: Finals: 1st, 2nd and 3rd sprites go to the Podium

[hushed stream]

i saw this one and gad to laugh at how tiny my little litboach looked surrounded by giants

[kindred valley]

the 1st poll is pretty brutal

[cedar quest]

I pressed shuffle ten times

And that is what it gave to me

[echo peak]

Pretty much all of the ones I said would be winners are there

[tame egret]

I get why the preliminaries have so many sprites together due to the size but man does it feel rough when you’re in the same group as an insanely good sprite

Seeded polls trust (it will go horribly as the seedings will all be opinion )

[idle forge]

My monkey definitely wins

[cloud solstice]

I'm betting on C4 of the first poll

[mighty stump]

I want everyone to know that even if your sprite gets out in the first poll all of these sprites are wonderful to look at and very inspiring

[south meteor]

WHYYYYYY?!?!?!
I guess the odds were high with the most skilled people entering thrice.

[echo peak]

No kidding. Again, it's basically a sweep

As soon as I saw the Litwicks I was adamant about entering so I tried to make something that could at least get a high chance of votes in Mimikyu/Gyarados but the competition is just too damn good

[urban siren]

[signal nexus]

it's got a keystone

[whole arrow]

wouldnt these count as collabs (not sure if the shuckle was from concept or not)

[molten vector]

Ahh you're right. And no, shuckle was not a collab

[whole arrow]

Well they were still very cool and very votable c:

[whole arrow]

You just think you're so funny. (U r)

[cinder stag]

yeah for my troll entry lol

its baaad

[cerulean prawn]

Its neat that there's a second horse in the poll, the ponyta is extremely cute

[slim fern]

Thank you! It looks so tiny next to your majestic horse though

[cerulean prawn]

her baby...

[signal nexus]

😭 how do i choose who to vote for???

[rigid abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-eeny-meeny-miny-you-eeny-meeny-miny-you-stanley-pines-stan-pines-dipper-pines-gif-2730301187237674438

[tame egret]

me

[slate otter]

Where do U vote?

[signal nexus]

#contest-polls

[slate otter]

Done

[slender thunder]

i dont like community voted contests because sometimes people just vote on whatever mons used in the fusion that they like the most instead of which design looks the best

[minor garnet]

Guys I didnt participate

Pls vote on mine

[echo peak]

I've said it before I feel like I know the winner already but I'm getting ahead of myself. It could be anything that's a certain candle Pokemon (just saying jfc you went crazy with those, you know exactly who you are) or the Lycanroc/Spiritomb

[tame egret]

Poll results 😨

[cloud solstice]

really surprised the first poll is so clear cut cuz it's packed with really good sprites

same with the second one

[crystal folio]

wow I actually won one of em

[cedar quest]

Polls will continue tomorrow, it's easier for me to do both Secret Spriter announcement and polls at same time

[rapid knot]

No, it's a secret, so you gotta say it more quietly
-# secret spriter

[fading lodge]

Not that Gordo needed it, but I'm testing a polling option. Please help me see if this works by voting for some sprites (all mine, for the test purposes) at this link: https://forms.gle/kcqqReQs1vySJqYaA

[rapid knot]

Only one of the sprites I voted for in the Spritober contest made it to the next round of voting

It's Spritover

[mighty stump]

I think it'd be easier to see which sprite is which letter and number if the rows had slightly different colors, but I submitted my answers

[fading lodge]

I'll try that next time. Feedback is good.

https://forms.gle/6YDJRwbDzav1AigX8 This is the link to a larger scale test to see what people think of this style of contest.

If I were actually to host the contests, using this version of the form, I'd probably limit a bracket to no larger than 50 ish entries per bracket, and have multiple forms if needed.

[fading lodge]

TBH, I wanna ask Gordo if we've ever considered this approach to contests before, and if so, what happened as a result?

[sly shuttle]

I think one issue is verifying that votes are only coming from server members

[fading lodge]

Is that really a problem though? I mean, we've had spriter only contests before where you needed a role to vote, but other than those, aren't these open to everybody?

[sly shuttle]

*humans

[echo peak]

The ones I said were top 3 are there. Damn

And they're all Litwick

[fading lodge]

Besides, we can't verify that the pokemon votes Frog set up were even done by server members (i'm pretty sure I've heard rumor that some people recruited others from other servers).

[sly shuttle]

Why would we want people outside of our server to have a major say in the outcomes of spriter contests?

The results of the new pokemon votes affected far more than just this server, so it makes sense that anyone could vote on those

[fading lodge]

"Major say" assumes that most votes are submitted by those outside the server.

[sly shuttle]

Potentially major

We don’t know lengths someone may go to to gain votes for themselves

[fading lodge]

We don't even allow the server to have majority say, since votes are basically done by the same handful of people each time.

[signal nexus]

well, we allow. the question is whether they capitalize on the franchise offered to them

[fading lodge]

And if someone is going to extreme lengths to make their sprite win, they'll do that regardless of how we hold the contests.

[signal nexus]

that would be kinda funny tbh

[fading lodge]

TBH, the "what lengths someone would go" argument could be made that "we don't know what lengths someone would go to get their favorite mon/move/function added to the game", and that vague possibility does include the infinitesimal chance someone would assassinate the Frog. Yeah, we don't know what lengths people would go to make their sprite win. All I'm asking is if there is potentially a better way.

[signal nexus]

i mean, people would get big mad, but it'd still be funny that someone would care that much

[fading lodge]

Advantages of my system is it'd provide an opportunity to get feedback on the sprites, while combining aspects of both judged and community contests.

Still wanna hear Gordo's thoughts.

[sly shuttle]

Is it just because I’m on a phone or are the sprites blurry at that scale for other devices too?

[fading lodge]

It could be me, idk how to generate a high res image. And align all the sprites well.

[dense jackal]

A field for discord username can be added. The result could then be checked for any duplicates first (any duplicates can get flagged as it may be someone accidentally submitted with only one answer the first time). The list of unique names can then be run against the member list for the server. Anyone not in here can be discarded

I suppose though that that doesn't stop someone from just using the inactive server population as a potential vote farm...

Except I think you'd need a different Gmail address for each form submission?

[rapid knot]

I think I missed something
Is something problematic about the current way of handling community voting?

[fading lodge]

It's more of a "community vs judged vs how could voting be better" conversation. Started in #1423724176497442857 , and I decided to test making a Google Forms version of voting, just to see what it'd be like.

Honestly, I like my Google Form approach, and the current method does have a few issues.

-# for starters, showing exactly who got no votes in their bracket is real discouraging

[sly shuttle]

I like the transparency of the current vote

[fading lodge]

Well, yeah, some transparency is nice, but the current system does discourage many spriters. What does the transparency accomplish currently? Don't think it actually makes people feel better.

[signal nexus]

we were mostly chatting about ways voting could be less discouraging to the spriters
when i'm not under a time crunch, i'll probably go in and chat about the sprites i liked that didn't pass the prelims

at least to do my part to recourage

[rapid knot]

The transparency accomplishes about the same thing as showing the scores in judged contests for people who didn't place on the podium

Even if you get 1.6% of votes, you can still say "Those people thought I should win more than the other options"
It also allows you to compare how you're doing in contests across time

[fading lodge]

In a judged contest, though, the scores show you where you can improve.

[rapid knot]

I maintain that community-voted contests are not devoid of learning opportunities.
The people who do well are actually skilled
Community-voted just prioritizes other important parts of producing art

[signal nexus]

is sad when you getted 0 votes, though

[rapid knot]

Losing is sad, but I don't think we should remove losing

[fading lodge]

Saying that "the people who do well are actually skilled" there actually is a strong argument to stop holding contests all together.

[waxen echo]

Are non-spriters allowed to vote? I didn't realize there was a vote until now

[mighty stump]

Non spriters are allowed to vote

[rapid knot]

Stay tuned for the next round of voting!

[waxen echo]

Which channel is it in?

[rapid knot]

#contest-polls

[signal nexus]

so don't enter?

[waxen echo]

It ended 6 hours ago I'm late XD

[signal nexus]

that said, it looks like all entries got at least one vote

[mighty stump]

A new round of voting will start up soon

[signal nexus]

only preliminaries are complete! we've still got a gazillion more rounds

[waxen echo]

Oh whew

[rigid abyss]

I def enjoy judged contests more since I can get feedback from it. Tho some can be questionable which I also hate

[fading lodge]

Let's be real, the way RealThree phrased the "the people who do well are real skilled" implies the efforts by others are really not worth entering. If teaching the community that unless you sprite exactly a specific way, you won't win contests (which, let's be real, all contest winning sprites are almost identical in style), i really think that we should probably stop doing contests all together.

[signal nexus]

unless it's an artifact of the robot setting the brackets and putting in a default vote

[signal nexus]

how did you get "the efforts by others are not worth entering" from "the people who do well are skilled"?

[fading lodge]

How do you not when you consider the vast majority of votes go to two spriters?

[rapid knot]

1. Just because other people do a better job at the goal or win more does not mean that your efforts are meaningless. There's more to a contest than winning.
2. The contests are identical in style because they are designed to be. PIF has specific rules that ensure a more or less coherent art style for fusion sprites.

[waxen echo]

This is a hot take as an outsider but a lot of designs are already based off of popular Pokemon, so the ones that win are kinda just the ones that end up popular in normal Pokemon?

[signal nexus]

well that's why i was joking-but-not-really about a contest only open to non-contest winners
people who haven't had a chance to shine get to shine

[rigid abyss]

That kinda just makes competitions in general all meaningless? Like yea what's the point of entering the olypimpics when there are Olympians also entering. U enter for the fun/thrill, winning should be ue secondary focus

[fading lodge]

I'm not talking style as in PIF fusion style, I'm talking about how the type of SFX and details are identical in almost every contest sprite.

[rigid abyss]

Ive always thought that be nice too lol

[signal nexus]

oooh, didn't i suggest an ugly pokemon contest ages ago? (where you emphasize the gonky traits, like stantler's nose and suchlike?)

[rapid knot]

I personally disagree and think that contest winners, especially in recent years, have had a decent spread of effects, textures, and compositions

[waxen echo]

I might not have been there when you suggested it, I've been only here a year

[mighty stump]

Saying the contest winning sprites are identical feels unfair

[signal nexus]

reminds me of that one lady who used some loophole to enter the Olympics on behalf of some random small country and was literally just a normal person against all the Olympians there

[mighty stump]

They each have their own style and merits to them, I wouldn't say they're all doing the same thing

[rigid abyss]

I remember that

I think its interesting/funny how power creep has entered the contests. If u see the contests in like 2022(? Iirc) there wasnt this much sfx/texture/detail. Makes me laugh sometimes

[mighty stump]

I personally see a contest that I can enter and go, "Cool an excuse to make a sprite for this neat theme!" and still make my specialty of cute and silly

[signal nexus]

ye, looks like it's Elizabeth Swaney
https://gearjunkie.com/winter/skiing/elizabeth-swaney-olympics-hungary-ski

[rigid abyss]

Real! Goes back to "winning should be secondary" and having fun is the main point

[waxen echo]

I think its unfair to pit some sprites against others. Like between Charmander and Charizard the big dragon is very much 'cooler'

Figuring out a way to make sprite tiers is funny but might be helpful to split like big sprites vs small sprites

[signal nexus]

Little Cup 4 when
-# /in-joke

[waxen echo]

LITTLE CUP needs more love

[mighty stump]

I wasn't spriting yet when little cup contest happened and I wish I was

[signal nexus]

the joke is that the previous LC had a $100 cash prize and technically still hasn't ended

after like four years

[rigid abyss]

Cuz there was no limit to entries right?

[waxen echo]

Oh my god there was a CASH PRIZE? People must be ravenously submitting stuff

[rigid abyss]

So hero(?) Yeeted a lot of sprites to enter?

[fading lodge]

idk, for one, to me, they all feel very similar in the type of details the emphasize. The winning sprites all follow a specific way of doing the fusion, beyond what the average spriter here does. Yeah, it's great, but if we are really going to say that the styles of a handful of spriters are the only ones that can win contests, seems pretty "rigged" if I'm honest. Sure, maybe the most skilled artists can see the minute differences in styles between the winners, but if you honestly ranked them against each other and showed them to an average server member, I'd bet they thought they were mostly done by the same person.

[mighty stump]

Little cup sequel that I can enter without a money prize that puts it in purgatory would be pretty cool

[signal nexus]

hence why i promote different types of contests and such
LC, mid cup, no-SFX, etc

[signal nexus]

and limited entries

[waxen echo]

Mid cup sounds fun ngl

[mighty stump]

Darn now I can't submit 100 spheals

[rapid knot]

Again
Style is meant to be coherent. That's the point of the spriting guidelines.
The same few people being consistently skilled is not the same as a rigged game

[fading lodge]

You and I are talking about two different things and keep comparing my apples and your oranges.

[rigid abyss]

I mean the difference between butterfree/illumise and tyrantrum/claydol (prev event winners) is pretty clear to me. But community voted events are clearly different outcomes

[rapid knot]

What are you talking about then?

[signal nexus]

monferno sweep
-# i think someone did the math and found that monferno was the least sprited middle evo when accounting for how long it's been in the game
-# might be least sprited starter, but i don't remember

[signal nexus]

maybe the limit is 100

[fading lodge]

Yes, PIF has spriting guidelines. Almost all spriters follow those. I mean, every sprite submitted in this contest follows that guideline. But there are certain stylistic spriting techniques (since saying style is confusing you) that get used in most every winning sprite. Saying you can't win without being good at those techniques seems... IDK.

[sly shuttle]

Saying you can win without any technique sounds worse

[fading lodge]

Saying you can only win by using the same techniques though? Who says you have to use the same techniques?

[signal nexus]

that's not what they said

[mighty stump]

I do understand feeling that your efforts aren't worth it to enter because there's always spriters who make way bigger and flashier sprites but that doesn't mean the contest is rigged, it simply means those people are good at spriting and keep making compositions that people like.

[signal nexus]

seems more like "i'd like if the community contest meta were more than just big flashy sprote of popular 'mon with a gazillion sfx"

[mighty stump]

Yeah that's what I'm getting from it

[fading lodge]

The contests realisticly showcase the efforts of a handful of spriters. Sure, some people can enter and be happy they tried, but many spriters want to improve or genuinely want to win. Are we really just saying those techniques are the only way to win?

[signal nexus]

the problem here is community vote
realistically, this seems something judged voting is supposed to compensate for

[mighty stump]

Yeah

You can't tell the random people voting to judge the sprites like a judged contest

[signal nexus]

so less "big 'n flashy" and more "this shows technical skill even if it's a small combo of unfavorites"

[fading lodge]

Personally, I'd like to find some balance between the two, but again, seems like my comments are mostly disregarded as a "don't whine, git gud" kind of argument.

[mighty stump]

Hey I never said that

[fading lodge]

Not you Spheal.

[signal nexus]

a third type of contest that's a melding of the two approaches is a good suggestion
🤔 it seems like a lot of the commenters were viewing your suggestion as an "in lieu of" rather than "in addition to"

[sly shuttle]

What if the images in the community vote were just made bigger? So people can see what’s happening in smaller sprites?

Smaller groups

[signal nexus]

i need to go to sleep because i have to be out of the hotel at 8am tomorrow
ciao

[fading lodge]

Everyone can zoom in, and for those that can't, making them bigger probably means smaller groups.

[waxen echo]

What if we like make the groupings based on level of detail, however nebuluous as that may be

[mighty stump]

It's difficult to figure out what a compromise to this would be, because even if you did only little cup mons for example that still includes litwick and other sfx or popular mons so that doesn’t address the complaint

[urban siren]

the potential winners will probably be all packed in one group

[waxen echo]

What if we allowed mutliple winners and grouped things differently

[rapid knot]

Part of art is making something that people like to see in addition to making things you like to see. That's an important factor in many art-based careers.
People choose their favorites based on techniques like color palette and composition, which are able to be seen by average people at a glance. People with lots of skill in texture and sfx are able to use those to manipulate contrast to create the composition they need. That results in a few different techniques ending up at the top.
It isn't bad for certain styles to be trending. And it doesn't mean that doing anything other than that is pointless. People enter for all kinds of reasons outside of winning. Community-judged contests don't exist in a void, and the people who enter them also have judged contests available to them.

If you don't want to see people who make sprites that people like seeing as the winners of community voted contests, who should be winning?

I have to go now, but my main points are this:
People who win contests win because they are skilled, not because the system is rigged to gatekeep non-previous-winners.
You don't have to win a contest to have fun or see personal improvement.
Community-voted and judged contests prioritize different aspects of art, both of which are important.

[mighty stump]

I agree with all of your points, so I wonder if the dissonance that is happening is because of sprites that have their own worth and merit but just don't have the aspects that community votes and judges are looking for.

[urban siren]

tbf the community is the main audience of our sprites

[slow gyro]

I’ve never win a community voted contest so it can’t be rigged for good artist to win cause obviously I’m the best

Honestly I like community voted contest way more cause you can do something different from the usual Gen5 style and you won’t get points deducted for being extra and I love being extra

[fading lodge]

So, I just looked at #contest-gallery and looked at the winners for the sprite contests in 2025 (not base or other contests, just fusions), and the podiums are comprised of 49 listed winners, of which there are 27 unique spriters listed, of which 13 ranked more than once. 6 people have three or more mentions in the podiums.

[slow gyro]

Omg imagine if there were 20 more winners

World’s peace

[mighty stump]

A contest winner doesn't keep winning just because they're a contest winner, they put a lot of effort into their sprites, it'd be weird to bar them from entering anything again or from winning.

[fading lodge]

I'm just saying, if the same people keep winning, are we really holding a contest, or just showing off those handful of people?

-# hero I still love you.

[rough frost]

ok I'll bite - please elaborate which techniques you mean. You keep saying there's a specific process and specific techniques without specifying

[slow gyro]

But Naka, I haven’t won a contest

I’ve placed on the podium multiple times, but I have never won a contest

[mighty stump]

You can get sprite contest champion from just podium?

[slow gyro]

Just a speed Spriter, but I don’t actually feel satisfied with that win

[mighty stump]

Ohhh

[slow gyro]

Speed Spriter is fun but speed is already my strong suit

It feels like I’m competing with advantage

Haven’t won a contest when people have time to achieve their best