event-general

[rapid knot]

The rest of them cost Power Points

[dusk scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/eelektross-pokemon-eel-electric-type-electric-gif-11440968857220415416

wooo

[mighty stump]

Mandatory slug propaganda

[bold granite]

I wish we could keep our roles im a role goblin

[bold granite]

Based!!!

[rapid knot]

https://tenor.com/view/buizel-pokemon-waddle-gif-25582142

[solid mist]

Vote Escavalier and Araquanid too they need love

[supple monolith]

The shells fusion though u.u ♡

[merry mica]

so does this mean that theres gonna be one line added from team sapphire and one line added from team emeruby?

[molten vector]

Yep!

[solid mist]

Yeah

[merry mica]

sick

[rapid knot]

Yes, but both use the sapphire pool of mons

[merry mica]

ye

[sacred flicker]

When do we get Team emesapphiruby?

[merry mica]

once hoenn is finished

[rapid knot]

Only if you discover the secrets of triple fusion

[bold granite]

I actually have the irl version of the poket full art card

[supple monolith]

Haha stolen. But here ♡

[echo peak]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-refresh-crabominable-gif-25043982

[rapid knot]

Yes
Steal it
Spread it far

[fallen light]

i went pachirisu even tho it prolly wont get in

[bold granite]

Vote for them!

[solid mist]

https://tenor.com/view/escavalier-spin-pokemon-sitting-cuties-plushie-gif-2949962401990256665

[supple monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/buizel-no-gif-19066395

[sacred flicker]

WE NEED DA MONKEYS

[tulip dune]

Voted for another 🐎

[rapid knot]

Try not to spam it too much, though

[bold granite]

Yeah i guess

[supple monolith]

Honse

[merry mica]

zebstrika would be cool

[echo peak]

I'll check in later I guess

[fallen light]

the only pachirisu propaganda i have ~~and truthfully it's about 50% oshawott propaganda ~~

[dusk scroll]

Spamming could have the opposite effect of what you want

[merry mica]

more electric types ⚡ ⚡ ⚡ ⚡

[supple monolith]

Zebra would be cute fused with others

[supple monolith]

OMG

I LOVE IT

WHAT A LITTLE CHILD

[solid mist]

https://tenor.com/view/araquanid-araquanid-pet-pet-pokemon-gif-16349322576860259266

[fallen light]

this is my child

[supple monolith]

Underrated

[dusk scroll]

I absolutely want Oshawott to be in the game

[fallen light]

same

[tulip dune]

Yea severe lack of electric and imagine rapidash x Zeb

[dusk scroll]

And the other gen 5 starters too I guess

[fallen light]

i have this guy waiting for oshawott

[supple monolith]

Yooo that would be 🔥... literally

[fallen light]

it'll be a while before that tho

[supple monolith]

Tbh. I hate Mankey but this... 💕

[fallen light]

if only i could propaganda for oshawott i think i could get some decent votes

alas my ottery child will not be making it's debut

[dusk scroll]

I have my Oshawott plush here. Hoping he will get added one day.

[molten vector]

Gordo accidentally leaked it, I thought it was okay after that 😤

[mighty stump]

The announcement was still fun regardless

[supple monolith]

TBH if Buizel never got chosen but they did, I wouldn't be entirely too upset.

We need at least one otter guy

[sacred flicker]

I can't wait for the Votes to be rigged and show the Monkeys as a Debuting Triple Fusion in PIF2

[dusk scroll]

I'm not against Buizel. I remember liking Ash's Buizel back during the DP anime.

[proven nova]

We have Slowpoke but that's kinda dubious

[proven nova]

I could honestly live with that if we still got the Eelektross line

[supple monolith]

I never thought of Slowpoke as being an otter bit I guess he kind of is??

[sly shuttle]

Were there prepared names for the fused team in case Sapphire didn’t win?

[fallen light]

he's a hippo

[proven nova]

that's still 6 new pokemon and a line from all 3 teams

[proven nova]

He's a hippo, otter, salamander thing

[supple monolith]

Ohhh. See, I never really thought on it 🤣

Long tail guy

[jagged hinge]

Oh so that’s why the team chats were gone

[fallen light]

hmm, i dont think i see the otter personally tbh

[molten vector]

Nope! Frog made this all up within the past few days. It wasn't planned at all. This is more of a gift for the other teams

[frigid ruin]

araquanid vote babeyyy

[proven nova]

Get the eels in!

[supple monolith]

Long tail and aquatic, me: friend?

[dusk scroll]

YAS!!

[fallen light]

accurate

[solid mist]

Please make my cursed son real

[supple monolith]

Oof

[whole arrow]

HE HAS FKN FEET?

[sly shuttle]

Rupphire and Sappherald erasure

[supple monolith]

SUICUNE lmao fusion is cute

[dusk scroll]

So does Eelektross

[mighty stump]

Whatever gets in the vote it'll be an awesome time regardless

[supple monolith]

What is this I'm looking at

[molten vector]

Emeruby was almost rubald

[mighty stump]

Yeah the eels have little fin feet

[whole arrow]

The Drag Race

[solid mist]

Eelektross/Sylveon :)

The size is fucked but I'm fixing that soon lol

[slate otter]

Woooo

[supple monolith]

Tbh I would still cuddle it

[slate otter]

Cool colour names!

[supple monolith]

Fearfully but still

[whole arrow]

someone cool please drop an Eelektross base right here please

[sacred flicker]

Then can we instead make it EMERAPPHIRUBY, since all 3 groups are basically voting the same thing at the moment?

[tidal panther]

it's two separate votes

[dusk scroll]

#assets-gallery message

[sacred flicker]

I know. But still, we're voting from the same chart.

[dusk scroll]

Here is one someone already made

[sacred flicker]

So why can't it just be the 1 Team now?

[molten vector]

Not really, you're voting from the same pool, but sapphire has their own vote. They get a separate line in from you guys

[whole arrow]

oh man that has some problems

shapes are good shading is off

[sly shuttle]

A single sapphire has the voting power of 2 Emeruby

[whole arrow]

but thanks masked!

[cedar quest]

man the solid color gradient though of Sapphire

[supple monolith]

That's pretty neat tbh!

[cedar quest]

is so mesmerizing

[sacred flicker]

Perfect! Let's persuade all of Sapphire to Vote for DA MONKEYS

[cedar quest]

like so shiny...

pretty color....

[minor garnet]

Were shiny pokemon

Or shiny people

[supple monolith]

I already voted for the man, the myth the Bui-Bui

[mighty stump]

https://tenor.com/view/eevee-eevee-wow-eevee-happy-gif-20429806

[minor garnet]

You think we didnt already vote?

[supple monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/buizel-sleep-sleeping-sleepy-gif-27403438

[sly shuttle]

We can edit our votes if we so desire

[slate otter]

https://tenor.com/view/simipour-pokemon-pokemon-memes-pokemon-cartoon-silly-gif-3194897366306585541

VOTE SIMIPOUR 3

[minor garnet]

Nah

[proven nova]

Honestly, as long as it's not Gumshoos, Sawk, Mothim/Wormadam or Jellicent, I'd be fine with anything else

[minor garnet]

I am editing it to 0

[rapid knot]

I am

[dusk scroll]

Sawk is not even a choice from Sapphire

[rapid knot]

You keep telling me to vote simipour and I keep telling you I did

[slate otter]

It's for other ppl

[proven nova]

Huh

could've sworn it was a Sapphire mon

[rapid knot]

No, they mean Sawk isn't popular

[mighty stump]

I like frillish but jellicent's monopoly man look is strange

[rapid knot]

Right?

But I think Sawk and Throh were also Ruby mons

[rapid knot]

Pringles

[proven nova]

He just edited his message

[dusk scroll]

They were I think

[mighty stump]

And pringles

[minor garnet]

Vote drampas

[proven nova]

it's not a Sapphire mon

[mighty stump]

Someoje edit Jellicent on a pringles can

[proven nova]

I'd rather it be with Turtonator

[mighty stump]

YES

[proven nova]

Honestly I'd rather have Karrablast and Shelmet than the monkeys bc they have more interesting designs

[mighty stump]

I wonder what blue pringles would taste like...

[minor garnet]

Smurfs

[dusk scroll]

It be difficult to differentiate body fusions of the pre-evolutions for the monkeys

[mighty stump]

Well what do those taste like

[minor garnet]

How?

[rapid knot]

Potatoes, apparently

[minor garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-karra-blast-charjabug-cry-crying-gif-9961891

[rapid knot]

Immortality

[minor garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/shelmet-peek-pokemon-hide-anime-gif-9961884

Those looks pretty distincy

[dusk scroll]

Because all their bodies look the same

[proven nova]

Yeah that's what I mean, that and I just like the bugs more

[potent sorrel]

Wait chat
I open Discord and see my PC box in announcements

[proven nova]

the monkeys would be fine, but not my top pick

[rapid knot]

smh it's an america-themed version but they call them crisps instead of chips

[potent sorrel]

This is awesome

[mighty stump]

Jellicent pringles tastes like potatoes and immortality, what an interesting flavor profile.

[minor garnet]

Oh you were talking about the monkeys

[solid mist]

I bet Jellicent pringles tingle

[dusk scroll]

Yup

[minor garnet]

Vote 3 for comfey and drampa

Btw

Look at this awesome drampa

[dusk scroll]

Look at the awesome eels

[solid mist]

Look at my child

My cursed son which I love

[somber pier]

sucks we dont get roggenrola my beloved baby

[minor garnet]

Vote drampa

[dusk scroll]

Roggenrola would have been my vote in the alternate reality where Ruby won

[somber pier]

i love my rocks

[minor garnet]

Pangoro wouldve been my emerald vote

[dusk scroll]

Leavanny for Emerald

[somber pier]

true, i also love leavany

bugs, rocks, and plants are my favs

[minor garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/pangoro-gif-9032174547381462545

[somber pier]

my homie through almost the entire game

[proven nova]

Do we know if Durant would get Heatmor too? And if Carracosta would get us Archeops too? I've been hearing conflicting reports

[minor garnet]

No

[dusk scroll]

I highly doubt it

[minor garnet]

We just dont

[rapid knot]

Luckily for you, the world is filled with those

[somber pier]

yes, but i want my gen 5 babies

[rapid knot]

I do too

Gimme the starters

[somber pier]

snivy plz

[dusk scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/oshawott-gif-1155855428013011460

[somber pier]

him too, i dont care for tepig

[mighty stump]

https://tenor.com/view/tepig-sad-crying-gif-24198869

[somber pier]

my other long time homie through the game

[whole arrow]

emboar has mad fusion potential for bodies

anything that large with a big face is on my "dont mind if i do" list not my first pick but damned if its not a good one anyway

[quartz pebble]

I just think it was unfair they were skipped lmao, went straight from gen 4 to 6

[mighty stump]

Whether to add 5, 6, or 7's starters I think was a vote and 6 won

[proven nova]

I hope 5 gets added next time

[acoustic saddle]

shouldnt you do the slug propaganda

[rapid knot]

That wasn't meant to be propaganda

[acoustic saddle]

so you just wanted some pringle

[rapid knot]

That was just me showing how much Jellicent looks like the Pringles man

My propaganda has Gastrodon in it

[acoustic saddle]

we need Malamar friends

[rapid knot]

I wish
It's trapped in the emerald pool, though

Along with Sawsbuck

[acoustic saddle]

this is so sad

[somber pier]

give me my rock baby plzz i need rogenrola sewaddle fusion

[ember hare]

How can I get team emerald/ruby or team sapphire role?

[rapid knot]

People who have the Team Emeruby role are people who participated in Fusion Day by joining a team during the event

The voting is a Fusion Day prize for Fusion Day participants

[ember hare]

I see

[ember hare]

What is the fusion day?

[rapid knot]

The event that happened all last month

[ember hare]

I see, I didn't have time to follow disc a lot so I didn't see it

Well gotta stay tunned for the next events, thx

[urban siren]

[whole arrow]

ill take any of the badass underwater mons tbh tbh

[torpid dirge]

Gothitelle fans unite! We need more Psychics

[slate otter]

VOTE SIMIPOUR 3 SO THEY ALL CAN BE FREE

https://tenor.com/view/simipour-pokemon-pokemon-memes-pokemon-cartoon-silly-gif-3194897366306585541

[plucky arch]

woah

emeruby colors are nice

[tender plinth]

smh all these people on sapphire advertising to emerubies. you have your own vote/channel 😛

[mighty stump]

It'd be funny if we had a propaganda channel to chuck in our images once for those who are undecided

Or just to look at propaganda because I like looking at other's propaganda even if it's for a pokemon I don't like

Everyone make silly propaganda
(just don't spam <3)

[signal nexus]

so, uh,
have we any confirmation which lines will end up being split?
like, we know East and West sea gastrodons will be split. what about the jellicents? or unfezant?

wait, are shelmet and karrablast being added together or not? why are they separate votes?

[cedar quest]

Data

But I agree it's misleading

They are together

[placid briar]

Vote Crabominable to piss a lot of people off

[mighty stump]

I thiiiiink all gendered form changes would be split but it'd probably be better just to ask frog directly if there's no example in game for this

[placid briar]

why are they splot?

the only changes to them are sprites not stats

[echo peak]

I'd sprite some Crabominable fusions

[mighty stump]

Frog thinks their designs are distinct enough, each form is in a different location, and being able to get a sprite clearly of West form while the one you have is East would be jarring

I initially thought they'd be one slot too

[signal nexus]

doesn't give us heatmor, apparently 😔

[lament matrix]

Said who

[mighty stump]

Staff aifbauienha

[signal nexus]

it's been mentioned around. can't recall who specifically, though

[placid briar]

you got a screenshot for that statement

[mighty stump]

I keep feeling like I'm being put on trial afijanoifaiof

[mighty stump]

Thankyou Worm

[placid briar]

interesting

Im in another discord that puts people on blast if they don't site sources

[lament matrix]

Maybe look up if you find it

[placid briar]

so sorry for that, it helps if we get actual messages we can look at as 1st sources

since we had a member who kept claiming stuff but couldn't back up his words

[mighty stump]

I keep having to re-explain that gastrodon has been split, maybe I should just have the discord message link saved somewhere XD

[proven nova]

Pidove would be nice. Not a likely addition imo but it's one of my favourite regional birds

[placid briar]

let me go grab the messages but, Frog/staff did confirm that If Simipour wins, all elemental monkies get in, same goes for Wormadam

[placid briar]

Wormadam in this case taking up 3 slots herself due to each of her forms having different typings

[mighty stump]

You might be posting that a little too often

I appreciate the enthusiasm for slug though

[bold granite]

I love Gastrodon

[placid briar]

post it again, and ima change my vote to 2

[bold granite]

Okay okay

[lament matrix]

That also makes it really likely for other pairs to get in together

[placid briar]

thsi sort of frequency is what made me vote 0 on Spheal initially

[signal nexus]

searching heatmor gets non-staff asserting that they're not together, but i'm not sure where staff has confirmed it

[lament matrix]

Thats the neat part
They didnt

[mighty stump]

Oh lol

[signal nexus]

so why not clarify when someone's spreading wrong information, then?

[mighty stump]

There is a precedent for heatmor and durant not being together since other pokemon duos that aren't directly related like the monkeys don't usually get both in

[signal nexus]

heckit @cedar quest are heatmor and durant being added together if one gets voted in?

[mighty stump]

Slurpuff being added but not Aromatisse

[cedar quest]

To my knowledge, no.

Only reason Karra & Esca are - is because of their evo method

[signal nexus]

they were also separated on the previous ballot
meanwhile escavalier and accelgor are explicitly stated otherwise on the Fusion Day doc

[lament matrix]

But why are the Monkes?

[cedar quest]

And only reason the other Monkeys & Burmy getting in, with 1 is because - it's funny

[mighty stump]

They are literally the same pokemon but with a different coat of paint

[cedar quest]

Yeah

[lament matrix]

Welp I put a maybe on the propaganda so its fine

[lament matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-meme-aardman-the-pirates-pirate-gif-26563702

[mighty stump]

You can do what I did and cross out part of the poster uiahfnioe;f

[whole arrow]

chat listen

[mighty stump]

I had to correct "self fusion" to "cross fusion alt"

[signal nexus]

plus it'd be the only instance of a 'mon being added across only two teams (rather than three like burmy and the monkeys)

[subtle moss]

If escavalier or accelgor got in, doesn;t the other also need to be added for them to evolve?

[mighty stump]

Yeah those two go in together

[subtle moss]

I was wondering since they were seperate on the vote

[signal nexus]

yes
but we're talking about heatmor and durant

[whole arrow]

WHOmor

[subtle moss]

I remembered the topic because I saw the pikachu

[lament matrix]

Tbf aslong as Frog doesnt say no there can still be a suprise
Even IF he says no there is still a chance as we saw with some reveals over the last years

[placid briar]

#event-general message

this shows that wormadam and the monkeys are all packaged deals if they win

[lament matrix]

Thinking about it its kinda weird
Since the evo likely doesnt need both mons in pif

[signal nexus]

meaning that trade evos don't exist or?

[mighty stump]

It could work like Mantine where you still need the other pokemon in your party on level up

[placid briar]

mantype requires remoraid to evolve in party right

or was that changed in this game

[signal nexus]

in PIF? i don't think so? but i don't recall evolving mantine

[subtle moss]

Maybe you just need to fuse and unfuse them

[lament matrix]

Changed in pif

[placid briar]

Mantyke

okay so then i can see it being changed

[mighty stump]

Where do you check how evos have changed in the game?

[signal nexus]

there aren't trade evos and there aren't friendship evos

[signal nexus]

https://infinitefusion.fandom.com/wiki/Differences_with_the_official_games#Evolutions_methods

[placid briar]

what im saying is, Mantyke requires remoraid to evolve

[lament matrix]

Thats why the Escavalier situation is weird cuz it wont need its counterpart

[placid briar]

it could be the same where Karrablasts evolves if Shelmet is in your party

[subtle moss]

Like I said, you could make it fun and have them evolve when fused

[mighty stump]

Yeah that's super weird... Oh well I'd rather have the package deal even if it doesn't make sense

[placid briar]

i was talking about base game, which frog could do i he did add shelmet and karrablast, but he already changed it for this game so he def just can have them as level evos

[cedar quest]

While it technically doesn't - the 2 lines directly influence eachother in their designs

[lament matrix]

Would be annoying
You would have to hunt down the other and wait with fusing for that time

[subtle moss]

I'm not sure I'm on board, it makes little sense

[signal nexus]

escavalier steals shelmet's hat

[placid briar]

the amount of people wondering how karrablast is going to evolve if shelmet isn't in the game is gonna go crazy

[mighty stump]

Also I fully endorse this change

[signal nexus]

could be something where an NPC just gives you the other

[lament matrix]

But isnt the Predatory rivalry of Heatmor and Durant too?
I just wonder

[edgy skiff]

aren't we already gettin Accelgor if Escavalier gets in..?

[placid briar]

people just be speculating why they're two seperate votes on the poll

[lament matrix]

Still feels annoying you get me?

[edgy skiff]

srry I just got here I only glimpsed at what's going on

[placid briar]

which then lead to how are they going to evolve in this game

[lament matrix]

I mean we could add items like Cobblemon do

[edgy skiff]

Because they forgor

[placid briar]

the mod team? forgor? nah

[mighty stump]

It seems like Milchik at least thought Durant and Heatmor would be separate but it doesn't sound like that was for certain or confirmed

[minor garnet]

Is there a team emeruby chat now?

[graceful plank]

yes

[minor garnet]

Aight

[slate otter]

VOTE SIMIPOUR 3
SET THEM ALL FREE

https://tenor.com/view/simipour-pokemon-pokemon-memes-pokemon-cartoon-silly-gif-3194897366306585541

[rich girder]

Where can you vote?

[tame egret]

you didn't join a team so you don't get to vote 😔

[rich girder]

Rip

[minor garnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/702626820876533851/1413443822096224326/347.150i_1.gif

[bold granite]

Daily reminder to vote 3 on gastrodon if you havent voted!

[gaunt lava]

Bubble spider!

[dense jackal]

^ my only 3

[solid mist]

Reminder to vote for Eelektross for good/cursed fusion potential

[jagged hinge]

One of the top choices for sure, I’m concerned the middle evo won’t have any sprites tho

[minor garnet]

I am concered drampa is getting lowest votes

[wind lynx]

eh, there have always been mid mid-evos, you just gotta live with it

[jagged hinge]

I think eelektross is especially going to suffer from that bc the heads will be very very similar

[wind lynx]

(Also, unlike some middle evos, it seems pretty straight foward to fuse)

[edgy skiff]

I guarantee you Drampa won't get the lowest votes.
Though I will admit we don't need more dragons and I would significantly rather we get Gastrodon as the slug than Drampa

[signal nexus]

when yungoos exists?

[minor garnet]

Yes

[oblique heath]

i gave him and pachirisu 0 the rest is at least over 1

drampa got 2

[minor garnet]

I gave most 0 tbh

Gave 4 to dramps

[tame egret]

you guys are so negative 😔 i only gave a 0 to wormadam and yungoos i think

[wind lynx]

wormadam would have been 4 if it had all versions of it

i love the little fellas

and im sure they wouldnt suck as bodies

[edgy skiff]

I gave more pokemon 0 than I thought I did

[subtle moss]

I used 1 as my base, voting 0 only for pokémon I didn't really want in

[cloud solstice]

if wormadam gets in, all the forms of the line gets in

[subtle moss]

I didn't use the 2 much

[wind lynx]

welp that wasnt explained

or I just cant read

[oblique heath]

i gave 0 to highlight how much i want to see those burned

[edgy skiff]

That's pretty much what I did. Apparently there's a lot of pokemon I really didn't want in 😭
A lot of picks I know would get select people very upset with me and I don't want to make more people upset after how the event went

[cloud solstice]

it has been said multiple times in chats, but I wouldn't fault you for this

[edgy skiff]

dw, it wasn't explained on the form

[minor garnet]

Just like the monkeys

[wind lynx]

ah yes, chats, that's a good place to explain important info

[edgy skiff]

All of the package deals weren't explained in the form 😅

[wind lynx]

(jk its all in good fun)

[edgy skiff]

I have no idea why tbh

[signal nexus]

god yes
i wish somewhere reasonable we had a list of which forms would be split, for one

[wind lynx]

the picture for the vote even only showed the shapphire forms lol

[edgy skiff]

Yeahhh-

[wind lynx]

they would have won if we knew
believe me I would have locked in /j

[cloud solstice]

you can edit your vote no? unless the deadline for the sapphire vote is over but I was told it ended on the 13th like the emeruby vote

[wind lynx]

I see, I tought once you sended the form that was it

[edgy skiff]

Yea you can edit your votes

I have to do that everytime I need to remember my votes

[signal nexus]

that one you can attribute to reading

[signal nexus]

they literally say to use "Submit" to save your progress

[tired jay]

You should know people don't like to read everything

[hollow grove]

If everyone gives Aromatisse at least a 2 we will acheive world peace

[tame egret]

i think i gave them a 1

my bad

[hollow grove]

Curse Of The Nile

[mighty stump]

Oh yeah I know it tells you on the very first page of the form about how to put in your discord username but always make sure you put it in correctly, or else your vote doesn't count at all

And double check it's the username and not your display name/nickname

[quartz pebble]

Might've given them a 0

[edgy skiff]

Saw this in my DM's list lmao

[solid mist]

borger

[whole arrow]

I met a Roma tease once~ a beautiful woman of Italia~ 😩 🥁

[gaunt fractal]

...could someone tell me how to gain access to the link here??

[cedar quest]

You're waaaaay too late

[gaunt fractal]

Sounds good thank you!

[pulsar musk]

durant gang

[jagged hinge]

My favorite steel type ant!

[broken robin]

One of two pokemon my dad knows the name of

[quartz pebble]

Durant is weirdly specific lmao

[cloud solstice]

he knows durant better than pikachu

[tame egret]

probably because of kevin durant

[rapid knot]

I did this with my mom once, it was really fun XD
We now joke that Turtwig is "the only sinnoh starter that matters" since it was the only sinnoh starter she could remember off the top of her head

She also spelled Cubone and Zubat as Qbone and Zoobat, which I love 🤍

[proven nova]

Do we know when the Team Sapphire vote ends?

is it the same as Emeruby?

[slate otter]

14/9

Is it the same?

[cedar quest]

It's the same.

[slate otter]

Thx gordie

[minor garnet]

Thx gordo ramsay

[quartz pebble]

Can we get a Gordo Ramsey turkey sandwich cooking tutorial?

[slate otter]

✨ Propaganda time ✨

VOTE SIMIPOUR 3
SET THEM ALL FREE

[echo peak]

Anything will do honestly, but school form Wishiwashi is gonna be a bitch to fuse

from my perspective at least

[mighty stump]

Admittedly I wouldn't know how to sprite the schooling form either but I know we have more complicated pokemon to sprite already in the game

[subtle moss]

I think it would be an interesting challenge

would be difficult to fuse as both head and body

[signal nexus]

RealThree challenged me to sprite a wishiwashi/cleffa school and i guess i better get on that, then

[echo peak]

and you call me the liar jk lol

[signal nexus]

i've been at work!

[echo peak]

I know, just messing around

[signal nexus]

i really don't think it's as onerous as you're claiming 🤔
especially if School form is allowed to be bigger

[dusk scroll]

it really would be

[echo peak]

just basing it off of my capabilities

I know everyone else can cook with Pokemon I can't

(example: Woobat and Swoobat)

[signal nexus]

working on it

[torpid dirge]

I’m imagining the Cubone as just a giant skull

[somber pier]

I know roggenrola isn't getting in the game but I made sprite fusions with swaddle cuz I love them

[whole arrow]

Gigalith is actually insane

[urban siren]

pidove day 2

[agile quest]

team sapphire. i present to you. this drawing of kyogre i did from memory on ms paint with a mouse. i hope you enjoy

[merry mica]

fsh

[rigid abyss]

Kyogr

[agile quest]

its very good i promise

[mighty stump]

I approve this Kyogre

They are the most powerful creature

Will do such a big scare to enemies

[agile quest]

thank you for the support

[minor garnet]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/xyani-shiny/drampa.gif

my propaganda

[astral niche]

while the vote closes in around 5 days there is a high chance that the result will stabilize in a few days or has already stabilize. So we can expect the vote results soon after

[echo peak]

I just hope the rest of the Hoenn event challenge results are shown before that

I'm not mistaken its the concept art, food fight and pc art right.

[signal nexus]

speed spriter 2 as well

[echo peak]

That's a lot of challenges left out

Then again, not like the points matter anymore

[subtle moss]

you;re saying there's no

point

[echo peak]

Pretty much

All those remaining challenge ranks would be for is just ranks

Because I doubt they'd add on points, unless Sapphire swept in those challenges

[subtle moss]

yeah, they said that they revealed the winner early so they could just take their time with it

[echo peak]

I'm aware

[agile quest]

beach day hasnt been judged either right?

[echo peak]

I don't remember

[agile quest]

im 99% sure it hasnt lol

[echo peak]

Again, that's a lot of challenges to skip for the results

[signal nexus]

i think only trainer card and speed spriter one have been judged

[echo peak]

yikes

[signal nexus]

MudKip made that many sprites

[edgy skiff]

yeahh-
it was determined that even if 1 team won first place in EVERY contest and Sapphire somehow got 0 points from them, said team STILL wouldn't beat Team Sapphire

[echo peak]

Didn't Team Sapphire also have the least teammates?

Or was that Ruby?

Because if Sapphire did, that's an underdog victory for being against teams with more spriters

[signal nexus]

pretty sure it was sapphire 🤔

[minor garnet]

I think it was ruby

[edgy skiff]

I mean in terms of members I think Ruby
In terms of actual participating members? I think that was Emerald-

Although Sapphire would've been dead last if i didn't do my thing (before considering the contests)

[placid briar]

Sapphire beats out Ruby by like 30 people iirc

we'd have to get a staff to confirm that since they can see how many people have a role in their mod menu

but yeah while Emerald did have more than both teams combined, only like 5-10% of them were actually spriters

[edgy skiff]

That would imply you had 50-100 spriters?
I only question because that is far from the consensus I've heard from Team Emerald lol

[minor garnet]

guys vote drampa (Not bothered to make the rest or the wing look good)

[long basin]

true vote drampa guys

and also toxicroak and Wishiwashi if you want to

[long basin]

where is old man dragon

[signal nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/grandpa-abe-exit-confused-bye-bart-gif-7694184

[long basin]

https://tenor.com/view/drampa-pokemon-gen-7-alola-dragon-gif-185266376811463661

goober

[cedar quest]

Yeah dw you'll still get the results of all the contests, they are currently actively being judged

...saying currently actively is a bit redundant but Idc because it gets my point across

[somber pier]

thats a pokemon i can have a beer with, they have my vote

i just want my boi roggenrola

[signal nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/drinking-bird-burp-gif-17864494

[bold granite]

Daily reminder if you havent voted, give gastrodon a 3 :)

[echo peak]

I second this

(Please)

[bold granite]

It would be so cool

[tame egret]

the bodies are gonna be a nightmare though 😭

[bold granite]

shhh ill do them all

[mighty stump]

I also promise to make awesome concept art for the bodies, I will make both forms shine

[dusk scroll]

Daily Eelektross propaganda

https://tenor.com/view/eelektross-eelektrik-tynamo-pokémon-unova-gif-1602625788460672188

[slow gyro]

Eleekross is mid

Bad as body, regular as head

The only good thing is the ability

[jagged hinge]

It’s not bad as a body imo, maybe you are thinking about the in game model looking like a noodle

[edgy skiff]

Who do you want from Team Sapphire's pool, Hero?

Also I know the voting polls are literally already up but can I start a petition to swap Yungoos and Gumshoos with Cryogonal from Emerald's pool

[slow gyro]

Im talking about stats

[jagged hinge]

OHHHHH

Makes sense

[slow gyro]

Dewpider, Wishiwashi, Dragalgue, Crabominable

Toxicroak of course

Hmm

Idk don’t remember

[jagged hinge]

I wonder who’ll win in the end, I think every Mon that has a chance is very cool

[slow gyro]

I also don’t see the appeal of Gastrodon

[edgy skiff]

I honestly really wish I could get the appeal behind Toxicroak
It's one of those pokemon that I like of course but it's just like.. I don't entirely understand its popularity? I dunno.
I picked Swoobat to be added so already I feel like some people's view of my opinions are in the garbage

[slow gyro]

Ground type with collector is cool, I can see it being good ingame, but I don’t really see the fusion appeal

[signal nexus]

pidove

[jagged hinge]

Funny slug

[signal nexus]

uh, these are two separate thoughts

[jagged hinge]

Escavalier tho 🔥

[slow gyro]

Escavalier is peak yea

[signal nexus]

all four have very different bodies

[edgy skiff]

Gastrodon's fusion appeal is the 2 sets of pretty colors

And varied body designs

[jagged hinge]

Shelmet heads will also be very cool

[slow gyro]

You know you could have chosen from every poll, right?

You could have chosen my good friend Malamar

[edgy skiff]

I'm aware

[edgy skiff]

I have no regrets picking Swoobat especially after seeing the sprites and concepts people have made for it

[jagged hinge]

What do you think of the recent announcement by TPC, probably meaning ||it will get a mega||

[edgy skiff]

My brother pointed that out that a lot of Pokemon social medias are like changing their PFP's to Malamar or something?

I can't help but notice the Serebii discord server has flipped its icon upside-down

[edgy skiff]

I'm sorry- Pokemon Shield? What.. what the fuck does this mean

what does this imply is canon to the Pokemon Universe

[jagged hinge]

History changing events actually I don’t think that implies anything from our world

[edgy skiff]

Hold on I need to check the rules before makin a joke real quick

[jagged hinge]

DAMN

[signal nexus]

https://youtu.be/aHBInipAf-M?si=YCLPuQ6LvKxr-DAd&t=56

[signal nexus]

is it a rule8 joke?

[slow gyro]

The only reason I’m not making Crabominable propaganda rn, is cause, even tho would work perfectly as a body stat wise, and for sprites as head, the stats and typing aren’t working for PIF

[edgy skiff]

||A Malamar has hit the second tower||

[jagged hinge]

[signal nexus]

uh yeah i think that's against the rules

-# or at least kinda crass to me

[edgy skiff]

The only thing I could think of is Rule 3, being sensitive content.
It's dark humor for sure

I just don't know exactly where the line is-

If I need to delete I can, I'm just gonna spoiler it for now 😅

[brave oar]

Malamar authored the Malamagna Carta

They shortened the name later

[somber pier]

Vote Roggenrola!

[dusk scroll]

You want to take this outside.

[rapid knot]

https://tenor.com/view/malamar-malamar-pokemon-pokemon-pokemon-ultra-sun-pokemon-ultra-moon-gif-11038978370671592348

If only

I want to steal Inkay and Sawsbuck over to the Sapphire pool

Very owl-like face
Owls are cool too

[rapid knot]

You said before that if we wanted pokemon added to this propaganda sheet we'd have to add it ourselves, right?

Can I add some pokeymans
(What is the font)

[signal nexus]

uhhh Bodoni MT, looks like

[rapid knot]

I gotta add these guys

[signal nexus]

can i veto the monkey

[rapid knot]

I have to make the monke joke

https://tenor.com/view/mmmm-monke-gif-22104103

I have Bodoni Moda, I think that's as close as I can get

[signal nexus]

if you add the monkey, use comic sans

[rapid knot]

Okay

Maybe I'll add arrows pointing to it, too

LOL
Photopea doesn't have comic sans

[signal nexus]

but the shitty anti-aliased version. not the legit non-aa version

[rapid knot]

I don't have comic sans

I'll find something similar

Here you go

[long basin]

no way it’s old man dragon!!

where’s malamar

[cedar quest]

this is actually anti-Wishiwashi propaganda b/c it blurry

Poor fish

[rapid knot]

Good

I like wishiwashi

I just don't want it in pif

[rapid knot]

Trapped in Emerald

[long basin]

yr trapped in emerald

[rapid knot]

Free him

[rapid knot]

No!
Let me back onto the winning team

Unrelated, but I stumbled across this as well
THE EKANS

That face

That is my face all day today

[signal nexus]

it was actually the result of me making it bigger
i originally had it small, but then decided to resize it later to be big
but i guess it'd already been saved at a lower resolution or smth

[cedar quest]

So it was you!!!

[signal nexus]

also i think the blurriness works, tbh. emphasizes the "graphic design is my passion" intentional ironic shittiness while also emphasizing that it's a big school made up of smaller indistinct fishes

[rapid knot]

https://tenor.com/view/14oliverhedgehog-buizel-pokemon-buizel-happy-happy-buizel-gif-15264943043680131995

Please
We don't have Dewott; at least let me have Buizel

[signal nexus]

fixed your fix

[long basin]

poo floaties

[rapid knot]

"traffic airline is my fashion"

[signal nexus]

pod floaties

[long basin]

poo*

[rapid knot]

pob floaties

[signal nexus]

pub floaties
that's probably a kind of beer head, right

[lament matrix]

-.-

Everyone ignores the version with ant

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[slate otter]

https://tenor.com/view/simipour-pokemon-pokemon-memes-pokemon-cartoon-silly-gif-3194897366306585541

Vote simipour 3

[long basin]

i gave it a 3

am i like the only person who sees the potential or what

like theres better options but still

[lament matrix]

Nah the monkes do have potential
I fear about lazy spriters who do bare minimum

[mighty stump]

Doesn't matter if there's "better" options or others don't see the potential, if you love them and see the potential in them you should vote high for them and cheer them on

The potential of a mon is super subjective anyway

[lament matrix]

Yeeee #1414749566007377930

I work on filling it out okay

Also there are soo funny ants
One could make one of the door head ones using Bastiodon line

[mighty stump]

There's some cool ant species like the honey pot ant (If I remember the name right) that could be fusion inspo

[lament matrix]

I would love to see a ant from you

If you want I could do a snail for the snail propaganda

[mighty stump]

We make a concept for eachother's propaganda?

Art trade but for vote propaganda

[broken robin]

You can add “Busilisk’s dad knows about it” to the propaganda

[lament matrix]

Thats a fun flex

[lament matrix]

Cant do concept cuz I am bad at drawing
But a full on sprite is possible

[jagged hinge]

Will you switch to Durant when gogoat gets in?

[lament matrix]

Maybe
Depends if my friends choices are in at that point

But for Sapphire I want to advertise for the cool Steel ant

[jagged hinge]

Cool steel ant would be very cool

But I gave my 4 to the other steel bug

[lament matrix]

Funny enough it would do great with Vikavolt cuz of 1 ant species

[lament matrix]

Fair I gave mine to turtle

[jagged hinge]

The parasitic ant?

[lament matrix]

Red bull ant

[jagged hinge]

What a creature

[lament matrix]

Bastiodon

[broken robin]

I think leafcutter ants are the coolest

[jagged hinge]

The Head door ant!

[lament matrix]

Yes

there is also a weird flat ant

[jagged hinge]

So many weird ants in the world

[lament matrix]

Yes and since Durant is the only ant you can inspire yourself on all of them without danger of looking like a diffrent mon

[jagged hinge]

Iirc I gave Durant a 3 so I did my part

[echo peak]

Stunfisk/Durant

[lament matrix]

Yes

[mighty stump]

ooh funny guy

[rapid knot]

Do it for him

If you don't he'll be sad

[edgy skiff]

Maybe I should make some Lumineon propaganda. But then again there is 0 chance Lumineon would get in

[dense jackal]

I know this is just an established style of character portraits/intro. But this one really hits as a gunfire reborn reference for some reason

[slate otter]

Guys we can't make three sad so everyone better vote simipour 3 so pansear gets in the game!

[signal nexus]

he's actually sad because he's wanted for tax evasion

[echo peak]

I feel like a certain slug or elderly dragon may take that title (from what I'm guessing)

[slate otter]

But then three will be sad and we can't have that

[mighty stump]

The chance is never 0 (granted unlikely) and bringing up the pokemon can always help the odds a little

[edgy skiff]

I feel like with all the white names that are in Emeruby there’s a good chance Toxicroak gets in tbh.
-# all of my thoughts towards white names have come secondhand from basically everyone else in this event. I have no original thoughts about them

[mighty stump]

I fear them because of Jangamo-o

I remember being suprised that they got in and having no idea how aifuianhfiaueufaeh

[edgy skiff]

Right hooo I’m gonna have to do those at some point for Pokédex

I’m just gonna Minunify them

-# I am 65% sure I won’t just Minunify them

[urban siren]

pidove day 3🕊️
working on pigon waifu

[gaunt lava]

Yall wanna sprite more birds?

[mighty stump]

https://tenor.com/view/pigeon-pigeon-attack-pigeon-jumpscare-jumpscare-dove-jumpscare-gif-8698278501887765417

[cinder stag]

not me

[white wagon]

I voted 4 for butterfly fish

[bold granite]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-shellos-fun-steal-your-girl-gif-12421669

[dusk scroll]

Daily Eelektross propganda

https://tenor.com/view/giant-moray-eel-gymnothorax-javanicus-sea-creature-gif-19407669

[broken robin]

I said oo girl

[edgy skiff]

Crustle fans rn

(I'm sure Crustle's time is coming, it's got my vote next time it's available!)

[tame egret]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-movie-flint-and-steel-gif-4491320584761369279

[signal nexus]

oh, is it propaganda time?

[oblique heath]

team sapphire, at least add the bug-knight

[signal nexus]

him?

[mighty stump]

https://tenor.com/view/leaf-sheep-pokemon-pal-pal-world-gif-186434552198212961

Slug time :3

Funfact about the leaf sheep sea slug, they can actually photosynthesize from the chloroplasts they collect from the plants they eat

Some sea slugs are a little like Kirby and gain abilities from eating things!

[echo peak]

I see potential for Venusaur/Gastrodon there

Or maybe Cacnea?

[mighty stump]

The blue dragon sea slug eats portugese man o' wars and becomes venomous themselves from their diet but they didn't start out that way!

[signal nexus]

🫵 lugia

[dense jackal]

Becomes venomous or poisonous?

[mighty stump]

Venomous I think, they sting

[dense jackal]

Assumed they wouldn't have a way to administer venom if they didn't intend to be. Fair enough 😛

[mighty stump]

Yeah it's a strange adaptation they have

[mighty stump]

They do look like a lugia

Am I allowed to link a reference for the blue sea dragon or will that get me banished

[signal nexus]

like...
is it to a nsfw site or smth?
i link stuff all the time

[mighty stump]

Nah just a link, nudibranches despite the first part of their name shouldn't have anything bad

Some servers ban links to sites just always unless it's a specific channel and I couldn't remember of this one did since I hadn't linked anything before

https://www.boem.gov/newsroom/ocean-science-news/blue-dragon-sea-slug

[signal nexus]

East Sea/Lugia

[white wagon]

I made sliggoo Pidgeot line based of these guys

[placid briar]

now that im spriting again i can start working on my horror sprite, or should i save it to see what october events pop up

[edgy skiff]

I'm sure something will pop up during October if you wanna wait

[placid briar]

yeah, i can hold the horror idea for now and start working on the stunfisk/woobat stunfisk/swoobat idea

[whole arrow]

And that's why you guys should vote shaymin

@cyan gull when will we do legendarys again? 🥺

[mighty stump]

Shaymin Gastrodon/Shellos would be so perfect

[cyan gull]

[urban siren]

pigeon propaganda update
(day 4)

[lament matrix]

I have to make more doves too
Its so peak

Well for pif

Gave it 2 points only cuz I see some better

[lament matrix]

Btw your feathers are great

[gusty frost]

good luck on that one

[silent jasper]

kinda would want Xerneas or Keldeo before Shaymin

[signal nexus]

your daily propaganda

[whole arrow]

If keldeo gets in I'm gonna 🏝️🏊⬅️🌎 his horn seems uhhhh

More MLP bait mon. I don't actually want shaymin though over a different legendary. 🤔

[signal nexus]

swim to a deserted island?

also fun fact: before i learned what Flutter Mane looked like and had only heard the name, i was picturing some keldeo/galarian ponyta-type critter

[signal nexus]

oh yeah, votes are in this saturday, aren't they

[edgy skiff]

Aw man the votes are in before I get to play Borderlands 4?

[torpid dirge]

Man I hope bl4 has a good story

Gameplay on BL3 rocked, but the story was soooo… meh

[edgy skiff]

I hope it's replayable 😭
And by that I mean I hope the story is properly paced

[torpid dirge]

BL2 was so perfect Storywise

[edgy skiff]

I can deal with BL3's bad story but the fact it makes you SIT and LISTEN every single playthrough is abysmal

[edgy skiff]

YESSS. At least for the short periods you're forced to wait and listen, what you're forced to listen to is GOOD

[potent sorrel]

Hey you, do you wanna play D&D and Infinite Fusion in one?

Then stop on by to Splice and Dice!
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See your hand crafted sprites on a map facing against giant handmade enemies, fighting along side your allies that you once competed for more favorability. And enjoy what will hopefully be an experience to remember.

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[potent sorrel]

I only ever really got to play 2 and Tina's
But I like the series
The movie sucked and what not but eh

[edgy skiff]

The movie was so bad I never saw it

[torpid dirge]

Most video game movies do

[potent sorrel]

Actually I haven't watched it

[edgy skiff]

And by Tina's do you mean Tiny Tina's DLC or Wonderlands?

[potent sorrel]

Wonderlands

[torpid dirge]

Mario and Wreck it Ralph being the exceptions

[potent sorrel]

Sorry forgor there were 2

[potent sorrel]

Sonic and Detective Pikachu as well

[torpid dirge]

I forgot about them

[edgy skiff]

Damn
Wonderlands wasn't bad, just wasn't captivating beyond a first playthrough

[torpid dirge]

And while not a movie, the first Castlevania anime on Netflix is so well paced

[potent sorrel]

Also Pixels, I loved that film

Was not the biggest fan of Ready Player One tho
Mostly cause I read the book a lot and some details being cut kinda sucked (I get why but still)

[torpid dirge]

Book adaptations suffer mostly the same fate… except for Jurassic Park, Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter (though tbh they cut so so much)

[edgy skiff]

Exactly my dad's take. He'd say Ready Player One is a great video game movie IF he had never read the book

[potent sorrel]

I did not like the second book all that much tho
Idk why, I just could not get into it

[torpid dirge]

That was me with the Ender’s Game series (who like JKR, I don’t like the author, but loved the book)

Although TBF, Ready Player One was not in my school libraries growing up, so I had to make due with HP and a ton of the DnD/Star Wars books

[bold granite]

Daily reminder to vote 3 on Gastrodon :D

https://tenor.com/view/gastrodon-sitting-cuties-gif-12068284688125371670

[torpid dirge]

But I already voted 3 on Gothitelle… and Gastrodon… and Toxicroak!

[dusk scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/game-freak-gigaleak-eelektross-pokemon-walk-cycle-gif-13772885600763753919

[signal nexus]

he can walk?

[dusk scroll]

And here is the daily reminder to vote 3 for Eelektross

[broken robin]

GIFs you can almost hear

Slap slap slap

[dusk scroll]

I highly doubt Heatmor would be included with Durant

[lament matrix]

Do we know for sure? NO
Do other mons exist who bring theyr counterparts? YES
Is there a reason to act like the "maybe" in the sentence doesnt exist? No

[signal nexus]

it's certainly doing a lot of heavy lifting

[dusk scroll]

“Maybe” implies there is a chance and, IMO, there isn’t a chance

[lament matrix]

Also sorry if I seem a bit mad or so
Its just people do the same with Durant like they do with Gogoat

[lament matrix]

Never say never

[dusk scroll]

What do you mean?

[dusk scroll]

I just don’t see the two as an inseparable duo.

I don’t really see them as a duo at all.

[lament matrix]

They are the same as Zangoose and Seviper

[signal nexus]

nothing i've seen from the mods or event runners implies it will happen
it's not 0, but it's not very likely

[signal nexus]

yeah, this
which is why it's weird that the dev has them so separated
but previous comments haven't indicated they'll be added as a pair

[broken robin]

We still have whimsicott but no lilligant

[signal nexus]

i think they mean people saying "we don't need gogoat as we already have torterra" or smth

[lament matrix]

I mean Monkes are seperated too and are said that they come together

[lament matrix]

Thats the old roaster

[dusk scroll]

We have Reuniculus but no Gothitelle

[lament matrix]

Exactly search the most random shit to make something someone wants "less" valid

[lament matrix]

Also old

That was the time of limited space

[signal nexus]

right. across three different teams. not across two teams. and it's been confirmed multiple times by the mods/leaders that all the monkeys and the burmys are coming together

[lament matrix]

I mean do many talk about counterpart mons?

[signal nexus]

their dex entries don't explicitly tie them together a la heatmor + durant and zangoose + seviper

[broken robin]

Tru

[signal nexus]

i don't understand this question

[broken robin]

More recently we did get tyrunt separately from Amaura for a while

[dusk scroll]

Throh/Sawk shared a team, implying they would be a paired group. Accelgor and Escavalier also have been stated to be interwinded.

[lament matrix]

But I also wrote a maybe idk why one has to argue against it
They are HEAVY connected mons and not unlikely to eb seperate

[dusk scroll]

I feel like if Heatmor and Durant were a packaged deal, they would have been on the same team like those examples.

[lament matrix]

One problem in your logic
Carracosta and Archeops

And if I remember right it was said they are really likely to come together if one gets voted

[signal nexus]

if that's true, then it would give a point in your favor
but i don't recall anyone saying it. do you have a screenshot or link?

[lament matrix]

I dont find the message but I am sure it was stated

[dusk scroll]

I apologize if I'm coming across aggressive. I have nothing against Durant and everyone has the right to campaign for their Pokemon. My gripe is just that "maybe" is doing a lot of heavy lifting for the campaigning when I think it's simply won't happen.

[signal nexus]

i find people asking why they're not together, but no one asserting that they'll be together

[whole arrow]

Give me spider water orbs or give me death!

[signal nexus]

this^
if it's alright for you to add a maybe to your propaganda, it's alright for people to clarify how tenuous that maybe is

[tame egret]

tbf i pretty rarely think of those two as counterparts but i do with heatmor or durant due to the lore and real world connection

[lament matrix]

I see your point but not saying there is a chance would be wrong too
In the end it is a good point
And aslong as Frog doesnt say they wouldnt come together I dont see why they shouldnt come together

[signal nexus]

if araquanid gets in i'll be able to add Aquarius to a Zodiac-themed blitz

[tame egret]

i'll be honest i don't think i'd ever really use heatmor anyways 😭

[signal nexus]

i think heatmor has potential
a la bruxish
you can make it look less like bananas in pajamas with a different head 'mon

[lament matrix]

I mean thats what people say about bruxish but in PIF they do use it
Pif is ther perfect game for underrepresented, forgotten or underrated Pokemon imo

[tame egret]

very true, i just don't see much for heatmor though, bruxish has the huge teeth and the crazy palette and all heatmor really has is the long mouth

[signal nexus]

exhaust pipes?

[lament matrix]

Heatmor is a furnace too

[dusk scroll]

I don't like the implication that saying a vote for Durant is a vote for Heatmor. It feels like a false promise that is shielded from accountability by the word "maybe".

That is just my feelings.

[tame egret]

oh yeah

[tame egret]

surely it's your fault if you take the very clearly marked possibility of heatmor as a guarantee of it being in? you're not promising anything you're just reminding people that heatmor could also get in?

[lament matrix]

Yeah but seeing it like that we shouldnt say the monkes can come together cuz frog can change his mind

Or Escavalier and its a counterpart what A LOT of people say

[signal nexus]

no? that would be a broken promise. very different from pulling a possible addition from the ether

[lament matrix]

I mean he never promised it

He played with the thought

[tame egret]

i'm pretty sure it's been confirmed that they'd be coming together

[signal nexus]

stated on the Rewards page

[dusk scroll]

They literally share a spot on the voting ballot

[lament matrix]

But cant he change his mind? Its his Game in the end

[signal nexus]

they're actually separated on the ballot, which is why i asked Gordo for confirmation

[lament matrix]

But in the end we know frog to go in favor for the community so I think counterparts coming together isnt that far-fetched

[tame egret]

yeah but by that logic he could just turn around and not add any mons? your point doesn't make much sense

[dusk scroll]

oh your right. Huh... weird. I realized my mix up.

[lament matrix]

I mean he could
He could also come with a stupid excuse that noone is mad

[dusk scroll]

Team Sapphire did a seperate interest poll during the event and those two shared a slot on that. I must have got the two mixed up in my memory.

My bad.

[lament matrix]

Frog could drop a announcement tomorrow and say he stops working on the game and Hoenn etc get canceld

[tame egret]

you realise you saying that further weakens your argument regarding escavalier and accelgor?

[signal nexus]

which is why people are pointing out how tenuous the proposition is
you might as well put "maybe will allow PIF:Hoenn to come out early" on your propaganda, as it's based on as much evidence

anyway, here's the Frog-confirmed post about the monkeys and burmy coming together

[lament matrix]

Thats just bs
Heatmor having a chance to come with durant isnt out of nowhere

[signal nexus]

and here's confirmation from Gordo that karrablast and shelmet will come together

[signal nexus]

we have precedent against it, though

[tame egret]

if that's bs then so was your point about escavalier and accelgor suddenly being split up despite confirmation they're not

[edgy skiff]

not entirely sure what's going on.. but-
I mean Heatmor actually mentions Durant in its dex entries and vice versa. They're more intrinsically intwined as opposed to version exclusives like Lilligant and Whimsicott

They also have special behaviors like in X and Y where in a Horde battle you can find like hordes of 4 heatmor and 1 durant and the Heatmor will actually attack the Durant

[lament matrix]

Basically a discussion cuz I have a MAYBE in my propaganda for Durant cuz there is a chance for Heatmor if we get Durant

[signal nexus]

mhm
which is why it stands out that they're separated whereas other counterparts coming together (like accelgor and escavalier) are explicitly together
the lack of confirmation speaks a lot

[lament matrix]

And I gave examples of other version exclusivs that come together but also that we never know how frog acts and that he could decide against counterparts coming together

[edgy skiff]

Honestly the voting chart has failed to confirm literally everything

[lament matrix]

And another example for counterparts seperated are the gen 5 fossils

You dont think he seperates those 2

[signal nexus]

yes i do

[edgy skiff]

I mean it almost seemed like Tyrantrum was gonna get in without Aurorus, they're pretty separated in the PIF dex

[dusk scroll]

Other pairs have been separated in the game before (as we listed earlier).

[lament matrix]

But he did add them together
Also at that time he wanted bigger suprises
Wasnt it one when Aurorus DID come

[edgy skiff]

But yea I mean the voting list doesn't make it clear that we'd get both East AND West Sea Gastrodon if they get in

[lament matrix]

Give me pairs that got seperated before we had more than enough space

[edgy skiff]

So honestly I wouldn't trust the voting list at all

[dusk scroll]

Well Gastrodon East and West aren't two seperate Pokemon

[edgy skiff]

As far as I'm aware, Frog still wants the voting data for EVERY Pokemon individually

[edgy skiff]

My point was to show that you cant trust the voting list for shit

[signal nexus]

🤔 i think...
there was more evidence for a hypothetical propaganda last year that said "vote carbink, because we might get diancie" than "vote durant because we might get heatmor" this year
though that could be because diancie wasn't even up for a vote... 🤔

[edgy skiff]

Like I imagine as a curiosity thing. That's why Swoobat is still on the voting list, he still wants to see how many people want it

[edgy skiff]

I mean Diancie has the same connection to Carbink in lore via Dex Entry as Heatmor has to Durant

I actually didn't realize Diance was related to Carbink but it makes sense

[dusk scroll]

I just don't thnk lore connections is enough to suggest that two pokemon are a packaged deal.

[signal nexus]

yes, that's what i mean

[dusk scroll]

Unless Frog states otherwise.

[lament matrix]

Fuck it

[edgy skiff]

There's also gameplay connection. They're found on the same routes, they come after each other in the pokedex, they literally ATTACK each other

It's EXACTLY like Zangoose and Seviper and are you gonna say if we got Zangoose we WOULDN'T get Seviper?

[edgy skiff]

-# if they didnt both come with PIF hoenn

[signal nexus]

if they were separated on the ballot and no mod/event runner confirmed they'd be together

[edgy skiff]

Has anyone even ASKED?

I don't think I've seen anyone ask if they're together

[signal nexus]

yes, and unfortunately, i don't think we've gotten an answer
if we have, i don't know the keywords to find it
however, we have gotten confirmation about the monkeys, the burmys, and escavalier and accelgor

@cedar quest if we vote in durant, will heatmor be added?

[edgy skiff]

I was gonna ping Frog

[signal nexus]

ping frog

[lament matrix]

My message from me asking frog doesnt load

[cedar quest]

Most likely no

[edgy skiff]

"Most likely" no

[cedar quest]

Hey I don't have any official answers

[edgy skiff]

Would it be better to ask frog then?

[cedar quest]

The only one I know for sure is Monkeys

Burmy

and Karra/Esca

[lament matrix]

Sorry for the pings later

[cedar quest]

Because we were asked to put Karra Esca together like that

[lament matrix]

@vast jay Im really sorry for the ping and your likely busy but can we please get a list of all counterparts that would come or wouldnt come together?
Like fossils
Durant/Heatmore
Monkes
Etc
This discussion is just annoying af and makes no sense

OH NOW IT SENDS

[signal nexus]

what about archeops and carracosta?

[cedar quest]

Me n' Pory weren't asked to put the other counterparts together

So we didn't

And therefore, they are most likely seperate

Like if they were together

I would've done the same thing I did for Karra/Esca on the rewards

[unborn raven]

Reminder for everyone in this chat

[signal nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/farmers-tan-tan-bad-tan-tan-lines-weird-tan-gif-11838891

[cedar quest]

I would've just put them both in the same line

[edgy skiff]

Might it have been weirder because in Heatmor/Durant and Carracosta/Archaeops they were cross-teams?

[cedar quest]

We could've totally put the counterparts on the same team if we really wanted to

But no, it made sense to do them seperate

[signal nexus]

so you weren't told which to put on what team

[cedar quest]

No, me n' Pory did it

This is known info

????

[lament matrix]

That explains some weird decisions

[dusk scroll]

I guess they were just trying to make the pokemon selection fit thematicly to the team they are on

[signal nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/adventure-time-demon-cat-i-have-approximate-knowledge-of-many-things-wise-wisdom-gif-4593239

[cedar quest]

Like originally Frog was just gonna have us sort 'em by color

Or type or whatever

But that led to one team having a lot more than others

[signal nexus]

can't have that

[cedar quest]

I mean like

10-15 more

[lament matrix]

I wonder why is Malamar in team Sky Emerald

[edgy skiff]

Which team

[cedar quest]

Not like the ~4-5 we have now b/c of how the forms work

[cedar quest]

You can literally count

[signal nexus]

~~or double the amount of members as the other two teams ~~

[edgy skiff]

I just figured you already knew the answer given the way you phrased it

[cedar quest]

No I do

It's ||Sapphire ||

[lament matrix]

I think Sapphire would be really big with all the cool and water/ice colors

[edgy skiff]

Okay that's not surprising

[cedar quest]

But only because the forms and Esca/Karra pairing n' whatnot

[signal nexus]

i figured
the most blue

[cedar quest]

Oh you meant the answer to that first question

[dusk scroll]

I'm glad Team Sapphire doesn't have to choose between an even bigger pool

[cedar quest]

Yeah was still Sapphire

Like tons of blue

tons and tons and tons

And beyond that as well

Rather than just a select few bonus mons

Color was also going to dictate the bonus points

[lament matrix]

Welp I go to eat
Hope we see a confirmation on what counterpart comes together soonish

[edgy skiff]

I wonder how it'd be by typing. Like obviously Fire, Rock, and Ground goes to Ruby. Water and Ice goes to Sapphire, and Grass and Bug goes to Emerald tho I'd also argue Fairy and Normal

[cedar quest]

You remember that collage thing RealThree was working on?

Not the suprise one

Lemme find it

[lament matrix]

Flying to Emerald too ig

[edgy skiff]

True

[lament matrix]

Dragon

[edgy skiff]

Realistically Each team would've gotten 6 types

[signal nexus]

MergeMay?

[edgy skiff]

Dragon feels like a Ruby thing and Ghost feels like Sapphire

[dusk scroll]

How would that work with cross-types? Like Water/Bug or Ice/Grass?

[lament matrix]

I mean Dragon is the type of the legendary from emerald

[edgy skiff]

Whichever is the primary type or just fuck it multiple teams have it

[cedar quest]

Found it

[lament matrix]

The last part would have been interesting

[cedar quest]

Yeah this was going to be the bonus mon stuff.... but like we canned that idea when we realized

There's so much more blue still so it would be

A big advantage to one team

That would also have

the most mons

Not good.

So instead we tried to pair things up based loosely on types, counterparts, and vibes

[edgy skiff]

Are you telling me I wouldn't have had to sprite 150 Minun??!
-# actually it still would've been blue technically

[cedar quest]

You didn't have to do 150 minun regardless

[tame egret]

just make the ruby and emerald bonus points triple the value, can't go wrong

[cedar quest]

There was other mons

[lament matrix]

You didnt have to no matter what

[edgy skiff]

I mean I did 40 Mudkip and 50 Umbreon too

[tame egret]

"had to" 🤨

[cedar quest]

Like earlier got asked why we put Malamar in Emerald

Well, in Emerald we put a good chunk of our Psychic types already

[signal nexus]

Kip really really wanted woobat to get in

[cedar quest]

And we paired it up with like 2 other aquatic themed lines

[dusk scroll]

I still find it funny that when PIF hoenn releases, a player might end up wondering why there are so many Minun fusions in contrast to Plusle

[cedar quest]

Barbarcle, Jellicent, Malamar

Ig I can break it down now since like

Event is over

If y'all wanna see me ramble on that

[tame egret]

yeah sure

[dusk scroll]

ramble ahead if you like

[edgy skiff]

Fuck honestly Barbaracle would've been on my radar to add if I didn't kinda forget about it

[tame egret]

barbaracle would've been kinda cool

[edgy skiff]

Wait- actually.. no I wouldn't want to try and sprite Binacle and Barbaracle to Pokefan

[cedar quest]

Gen 4 Poison

[dusk scroll]

This is almost Team Galactic admin Pokemon.

[cedar quest]

Loosely Weather themed ((No new Drizzle mon, so we used Lumineon here))

[cedar quest]

Mhm

But Purugly we used elsewhere

[edgy skiff]

Anyway. I def feel like Type-based, the teams could've been
Ruby: Fire, Electric, Ground, Rock, Steel, Fighting
Sapphire: Water, Ice, Ghost, Dark, Normal, Poison
Emerald: Grass, Bug, Fairy, Dragon, Psychic, Flying