#event-general
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Wormadam is the only fully evolved Bug Ground pokemon
New pride rush:
Everyone sprites their vote for the queerest Pokémon
So is Ho-Oh
So is Trapinch
I thought it was getting cut this year, but I think we actually have a really good mon for it this year - so we're probably looping back around into doing it
Azurill rush 
pause, trapinch is gay?
That thing is all mouth
Bruxrush 
aegirush 
What about bodyoddyoddyoddy?
🤔 salamence might work given the whole theme going on with shelgon
Magneton for polyamory
Although the back-to-back month long stuff always feels a lil' bad from a participarting and creative pespective, but both Mergemay and the Pride Rush are good, so it is what it is 
Conjoined triplet erasure 
after pride rush we should have a 3 month spriter break
Dugtrio
I saw Lesbians
after pride rush i think there should be NO more sprites for the year
nuh uh
What'd I miss
Server shutdown 2.0
Pride Rush Speculation
HOLY CRAP IT CAN HAPPEN
can't be anything but minior surely
most definitely minior
Which makes Wormadam way funnier
What we'll probably do is after Pride Rush (if we are doing it - still planning out a lil' bit, but think we are)
So yes there have been buttttt it's also like the only been documents at max 5 times because identical triplets is extremely rare
We'll do a break, to where we don't pick back up with contests till like
Mid July
doctor pulling them out like
Yeahhh nowadays anything like that would be automatic c section but imagine back before we had those
thats when we lose kiwi for 5 months again 
Mortality rate for women and the babies ⏫
i dont want to try and imagine the horror of not being able to pull them out because the cross section of their bodies was too big
thats like true horror
@cedar quest bestie what happened to specific mon contests? 
banned from earth for boring reasons
tho it still happens on the 2 specific situations:
-new mons joining if(mini contests for them)
-reaching the goal in a rush
didnt we just do carbink/diancie?
That falls under the “new mons joining” category

i think it can be cool depending of the mon, but i really prefer themed ones
more freedom to choose which mons u want to sprite yk
yeah and minior too but testrun already answered that x) silly
all these ones is considered "themed" but it was for specific mons too, just not for only one mon
but ofc it falls on the new mons joining too
cant wait for ultra beasts contest when them join pif
datorre join mm 
samesies
MM for the win!
I got really tired of the specific mon contests towards the end of the new mon wave 
Those have been moreso allocated for the rushes, plus reasons that DaTorre already said
mm? 

magicarp mystery
If enough interest is shown, we can bring 'em back - but from what I've heard, the sentiment is mostly shared that they were boring 
gamr can they make you a custom role of mr mime bc ur the event genie
u handle literally all the major events and have done so for like
though I'll be so for real if im not making main contest entries im usually filling out custom sprites for chandelure and sometimes lurantis so if they dont fit 
i feel almost or at least a year
ill see what i can do 
a discussion i wasnt there for 
Trying to find the convo
do ppl know about event manager role or i am being too old
oldhead
Found it - #spriter-general message
I remember that orange 
is a good combo with the green of your pfp
like lemon and orange in a single person
yummy
If enough people are interested in that, best move would to be to make it a #discord-suggestions
maybe Jokemon Week 3 will be a specific mon 
if u be the mr mime whos gonna be the mr rime
should i...
Howls or Pory, probably 
if i was to find out people were clamoring to do a specific mon I'd be more than happy to provide the platform and good judging
me judging my judging Ah yes quite good, all seems to be perfect here 
Those two are usually my right hands, when not doing their own stuff
join us
We zigzagoon are without representation
become one with the magikarp
Your leader is @loud raft 
Someone rep the GOONS 
@loud raft is merely the puppet of Kiwi and Greystorm

The K(iwi)GB
(iwi)
(iwi)
Yea makes sense, I just miss them lol
(iwi)
👋 🏝️ 🏆 ⏲️ 🔜 ⁉️
s♾️n
It’s been 6 hours 

You can’t rush excellence 😌
You know my mon lol
YOUR NAME LOL IM DYING
hm 
7️⃣
just kidding theyre organizating stuff dw 
~~everyone's nightmare
~~
9️⃣
seven ate nine! 
LC4 is real bro 💔
but we dont actually know who 78

where is by sky
Sunday
actually been looking at references since cant start the sprite yet

struggling to beat the furry allegations between this and the very detailed pokemon searching
check the calender 😠
mine is going to be a quetzalcoatl 😄
Make a shuppet/machop with a cape jumping heroically off of a stool
Hawlucha/Rayquaza? 
less accurate
||reshiram/milotic||
I should make a quetzalcoatlus 
i let u try to beat me

do real contests deduct points for alts
wdym
spriting a fusion that already have a custom sprite?
like if a fusion is already made there is a score reduction
theres not
u can do has much alts as u want ^^
it had? which was?
You participated in the only contest that does that
only one that had that rule was LC iirc
magicarp mysteries 
oh yeah magikarp mysteries is a event, not a contest
XD
dw
the rules from the events r p diverse

i believ u can make an amazing alt! 😄
By Land results soon? 
soon tomorrow
Aw shucks
i mean, is what i would bet XD
need more colors
ho oh is right there
it is albino dw guys
by coincidence i was actually looking at that fusion earlier and there's like 2 or 3 separate quetza fusions
i know hawlucha/arbok is one
although on the other hand it's kinda hard to do without doing that
if someone else make a quetzalcoatl too im gonna have to put extra effort on mine 
i cant read
i made 3/4 of them already tho, v: maybe a mantain sky driving
just make a radio
on air, by air, same diff
make fart
stunky's not in the game
Yeah sorry got wrapped up in somethin
Tomorrow gurantee.
Like I could technically do right now
But I don't got Pory around to do the server icon n' role stuff
you drive a faustian bargain my friend
bother another mod 
xillo is right there 
jokes aside dw mate tomorrow is the day 😄
I just want to know how far in the middle i got 
Can we have an event where I have to collab w myself and heal my inner child
can't you do that for any event that allows collabs?
severance contest
Its not self healing if its not forced tho
it is now forced
Hey dont tell that to me, me and my "inner child" be vibing
koffing
your existence means nature is healing
Make a maritime radio tower, cover all your bases
On a plane ATM, but should be available throughout the day on mobile
so youre actually... BY THE AIR?




Yeah, I've been in all the contest modems thus far this past week
👋 🏝️ 🏆 ⏲️ 🔜 ⁉️
🇸♾️🇳

Contest pressure cooker
How many By Sky entries will be Swablu and/or Altaria?
11
25
4
+10
🌪️
If I have time for this contest I will be part of the 10+
Oh sorry, huge spoiler I know 
Son
S(eight)n
sinfinityn
Little glass filled with liquid and a straw trophy soon!?
guys
vetro
Gyus
fanta 
my little boy just shy of getting 3rd
(i say like i would beat the most talented spriters ever)
jk IM SO HAPPY????
congrats winners 👏
perplexing feedback, but oh well
moral of the story: copy someones sprite basically and you get high placement 😎
also this was definitely my best contest yet
I disagree, easily recognizable as Charizard - especially since they are like, 2 different body shapes 
wow, a altaria won by land AND is going to win by sky 
he didnt win but at least someone liked him 
oh hey
send the thread feedback gang back to the mines
congratulations datorre!
Great sprite
tysmmmm 
thats what i was hoping ppl would see but alas
Love this comment 
if only NTM didnt rush his sprite 1 hour before the contest ended 😔 im genuinly suprised by how talented he is though, he made a 3rd place sprite like the day of
the wings could be reshaped tho 
24th out 44 aint half bad! I mean, its pretty much half bad since its in the middle ahahah
Congrats to the winners 
I didn't enter and haven't looked at results yet but I guarantee finishing midtable is very impressive
oh no altaria won by land
how's by sky gonna go 
i wonder who voted me the 11, probably the person who made the evo to my sprite 
the noobs aren't even entering 
I think I'll try even hard in by sky, still with a Lurantis obv 
i entered!
thanks chroma ><
and got my noobishly low placement, which i get cuz it wasn't very well polished
what if for by sky i just do the same exact thing and make a preevo to a judge's sprite, and then they'll be like "yes 10 stars" and BOOM contest champion/j
free feedback 
im going to be the only person to not use an altaria for by sky 
1 simple trick big sprite doesn't want you to know
gamr can you rejudge and replace these 3 with yourself
/j
if i keep farming feedback at this rate ill be the best spriter there ever was in no time 
tried to be the most creative possible with that entry haha, my personal challenge is avoiding ground/rock type for by land, water type for by sea and flying type for by air 
also added the extra spice by using a flying and a water type for by land
@thick harness were you the one who gave me the 11, im assuming so because i made the pre-evo to your sprite 
well, it definitely worked, gratz \o/
do fire/electric for by air to rep the heathrow fire
Congrats winners! So many delectable sprites in this batch 🍗👄🍗
That wasn't actually me, but I think the 11 was definitely earned. I did leave that comment however 
17th and 22nd is the best I've ever gotten in a contest! I'm thrilled! Next goal: top 10 
@cedar quest by land and luvdisc rush have small typos in contest gallery, sprites say 'also by' when it should just be 'by'
oops
I mean ty for your hard work 
time to get to work on by air 
Yet another instance of my base scoring higher than me
guys whatever you do, do NOT say the abbreviation for "emmy grammy oscar tony"
you will get muted
lol
I thought it was just an innocent acronym 
as did i
Whoever just said on my entry that they don't know if it's lapras or not, you're the reason I'm not entering contests here anymore.
be warned
Putting in effort to make an actual sprite that you like: ❌
recoloring a big sprite that’s hard to sprite on its own: ✅

?tag kiss
congrats on everyone who entered
Hi Lily
hayo
thanks 
time to private ppl from using your bases for contests i guess 
@cedar quest
I’m at least safe for the sky contest
None of my Talonflames are allowed in contests
Everyone saying it’s gonna be by air, while I know it’s by space
Trust my word
What does this mean?
uses your hydration base
🤯
when the chile is tea but the finna is gag 
GamR compensate or I’ll sue
Translate to old person for me
means nothing, looks like it is just a weird meme XD
When the chile is tea but the finna gag, sis im dead as a chile - a tiktok comment i found
these memes that means nothing is just like confusing and ppl found the confusion funny
looks like is the case

i heard it from somewhere but i have NO idea where it’s from
modern internet language
sybau ts pmo 
So why was it the comment on one of my sprites? What am I supposed to do with this? Did they like it? Hate it? Do they mean my sprite was confusingly drawn?
words speech crossword puzzle flipbook quash
angels biblically accurate language
i think they just wanted to confuse u like it happened on the real meme 
icl ts pmo sm n sb rn ngl, r u srsly srs n fr rn vro? lol atp js go 💔... b fr vro, idek nm, brb gng gtg atm lmao, bt ts pyo 2 js lmk lol onb fr.
they were probably just trying to be funny
opium sigma aura skibidi rizz 🫦 💔 💯
out of all the judges i feel like that was pix idk why
i mean, it's not, but maybe people thought older kinds of absurd humour weren't funny also
you kinda need context for it to work
And bottom of the pack again 😔
pix is in hiatus iirc and they r really serious judging so they could never 
oh then i have NO idea
I'm going to try to guess what this says
"I care like it is possible maybe or something no sob right now not gonna lie, are you seriously serious now for real right now very real obviously? Lol at this point just go 💔... But for real very real obviously, I don't even know nevermind, be right back, going to go got to go at the moment laughing my ass of, but it is pretty yucky outside to just let me know laughing out loud on both for real."
I have no idea
no idea what icl pmo vro pyo and onb could even mean
gng and nm i could guess but not sure
gonna go and no more or something
i can’t lie this shit piss me off and somebody right now not gonna lie, are you seriously serious and for real right now bro? lol at this point just go 🥀… but for real bro i don’t even know no more be right back gang go to go at the moment lmao but this shit piss you off too just let me know lol on bro for real
that’s what it means
because 🥀 is the new 💔
kinda but people use vro more now for some reason
flower kinda sucks ngl 💔
typing like that hurts my me 
vro 💔 pmo icl tbf 🥀 is better then ts
I mean at the en dog of the day I think everyone did a good job on their sprites
And you should all be proud that you made a sprite for the contest
Bro my base recolor got more than the sprite I put actual effort into😭
This says something about IF society
I know this feeling
I got dead last aswell
my swoobat/lilligant placed much lower than my doodoo cryogonal/celesteela in the non if contest
yes they both used a base but for the swoobat I basically remade the entire thing except for the flower
I think the biggest issue with doing a custom sprite vs using a base is just that you have to be real careful when doing it, otherwise you’ll mess up
I got top 10 once with a custom sprite, that was satisfying
But usually it doesn't go that well
Well I placed these pixels
I’m miserable working with bases
I mean it's like using a recipe vs winging it
Uh ayways by sky
both work but if I am an inexperienced cook I'm using the recipes lol
I gotta make smt
nevermind top 12 not 10 but still
skyscraper?
i liked your guy and try not to judge yourself against people who have been drawing for decades
I mean thats kinda hard when you get last
The one time I used a base was to get a smoochum head looking right
I’m trying a cofagrigus base rn for the mini-Blitz and it’s going… poorly
I know buddy
This is also my highest score I think (because most other contests I participated in ended at 10 points
)
Oh tat
Did they change the point system?
They did
I made 1 good sprote
It’s not 1-5 it’s 1-10 now
and 1 other good sprote but people didnt like the pose
And also an 11 for each judge for a sprite they really like
Apparently my perspective needs work
Damn
By land and I didn't even submit a sandshrew
I'm washed
it's been a long time since we changed it
Yes? (:
now what do i do for by air…
Nono that’s By Seas silly
You’re grounded

I, @woven kettle, will participate and submit a sprite to the By Air or whatever contest
Even if it’s the last thing I do
tbh by sky sounds SO MUCH better then by air
i could just make one of my zubat concept arts into a sprite
I am still pissed at this comment
zubat is by sky right
what comment?
starting to see why the judges are anon 
Add SFX moment
I will never add sfx (my minior sandshrew has sfx)
i can’t believe the real toph beifong judged in this contest
I will add sfx
This sprite
I reworked it but still
Also my shell fusion lacking color
so the thing that looks dead lacking color?
I would never do sfx
wow really!?
Thank god
Hey speaking of sfx
what if we evolve this thing
With all these spriters using SFX I was scared that something might happen to you
Thank you Myst for never using SFX ever 
more fire spriting? :dead:
this time Ill help out by placing 1 pixel
At least 3 pixels 
ugh fine if I have to
I did want to make a dragonite base
by sky might force me to do one
Oh wait the base I wanted to make shows a standing one
There are a few comments from the judges where I’m like ”Why didn’t you say this while it was in spritework?”
I'm kinda burnt out of spriting
I made one klink a few days ago but nothing in a month before that
skibidi
yeah like basically everything about my thing
also giving me a 1 is just foul
like yes you didnt like it but still
the sfx was good
i feel like a 1 is reserved for like horrible splicing, that was a bit foul 
Giving feedback to sprites you judge sounds like it would lead to bias 
Or better sprites
Well alright but not doing it and then complaining about them not doing what you visioned is just mean
Alright, what was the sprite?
99% of the time it's because they didn't see your sprite while it was in spritework, the same way how sometimes people give a comment on what should be done differently when you show off your sprite long after it was posted to gallery
those gems r gorgeous
I understand the sentiment, but this implies that to judge a contest you have to give feedback to every entrant or you aren't allowed to rate them poorly.
I always (with rare exceptions) leave mine in sprite-ready for the full 24hrs 
i mean they were as harsh on judging as the real one would be 
The real one couldnt have seen the sprites
||fifth plac, thats one off from my favorite number 🥳||
I really like 45th out of the 44 entries
Nah, real one would be demanding to know why you gave the blind girl judging position of a visual contest 
Worm only a few people see a given sprite there and in spritework out of the whole server population
I mean there's always the option to just not enter if you don't like the judging
“what it SOUNDS like is apiece of paper.”
Uh I gotta enter for that role
I'm a lot more interested in seeing honest scores than participation awards and everything being rounded up
I’m interested in making good sprites and I can’t fix errors if I don’t know what they are
more than half the judges only commenting on a quarter of the sprites is a bit meh
I can understand why but yeah
i wish there was a way you could like, ask for further feedback/reasoning on a score but only 1 so it’s not that much work.
how funny would it be if I made a sprite of a skylander that kinda resembles a fusion
or just people having different taste and liking different things in sprites, one time when I showed my sprite in spritework someone had a problem with how I placed one of the elements because they thought it was a really wierd choice but when I made the spritework post the first comment I got was about how much they liked the same feature the other person wanted me to get rid of or move, sometimes the judges will have the taste of the first person when people who gave you spritework feedback had the taste of the second
if you take out the memes and the fact it was mostly the good sprites that got consistent comments, I can see the issue
yes you can just look up everyone with contest judge roles and ping them
Taste shouldnt play a role in this
honestly
everything judging is, is personal opinion tbf
yeah but you shouldnt dock 2 points for just not personally liking the sprite imo
i vote with taste when judging, but only when i like a thing, even if i deslike i try to be fair 
like 1 maybe
Oh shut up you won ||/j||
if i think a sprite is a 7 but i found it creative or i really like it i give it a 8 for motivation purporse 
oof its a funny one ngl but is hard to manage
that’s prolly not gonna happen because people r probably gonna complain it’s “boring” because we already did it
cuz its like “waste” a contest, idk if frog like the idea
I mean the same person gave mine a 3, I just wish they'd give me critique for it. But otherwise it's fine to be a critic
My entry for last time
it's impossible for people to completely turn off how appealing the design is to them which varies from person to person, generally when judging you should try to minimise how much that factors in as possible but no one can completely just turn that off
no but I think like 1 point max for personal taste
guys dont be that crazy about some votes at the end some of them r harshy and others maybe too kind yk ppl r just different at the end 
non pokemon event
Jokemon week 2 
thats just 1 entry tho
Yeah because it's only me judging.
i still want only fanta sprites event 😔
(When does it end? also I forgot where to find the drive for it)
i mean for one judge a error can mean -1 pont but for other it could be -2 and for another maybe they dont even think it was an error só they dont knock points
people r just like that
Eminemace style fusions contest
watch me still lose
End of the last day of the month, just add #jokemonweek2 to your spwork post!
i prefer coca cola 
wheres my pfp and role tho 
4
U mean the contest champion role that is behind your name?
staff used to be good

the turquoise one 
let milchik have it
@pastel fog im stealing your role!
People making jokes that altaria is going to make up most of the entries for by air, but no one mentioning how hilarious it is that you won by land with an altaria.
anyways I am making a skwovet base
the happiness didn't last long 
Get ratiod expectations
ikr??? 
I hope torterra wins by sea
Dugtrio sweep
thats how life works friend, im already thinking that my happiness gonna only take 6 days 💔
milchik gonna be piss color again lets goooo
Also I dont like the fact that with early stage pokemon it gets harder to win

its fair if i can tell u
its logic but I dont like it
the final evos r usually more detailed and bigger so ppl can even work with more space and more stuff and then final evos usually works better
a tyrunt won the tyrunt line mini contest tho
it was really surprising
a while ago
i agree with that. i think 99% of why i got high placement is only because i had cool shading stuff ig
Still doesnt mean I like it
u did really great!
Pretty much how I got shellder/anorith a 3rd place spot
Like testrun made an INCREDIBLE Appletun/wooper once
that shading was immaculate so 
yeah to place well with small fella it have to be like perfect
im doing my first entry as a lc mon
Oh I really love that appletun sprite
When I made that dex
entry
I didnt even know what to expect
and it ended out better than I thought
SLIGHT making sure everyone knows its a wooper and appletun
I had top 10% with a sprite that was no evolved forms || https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/543958354377179176/1146790960924201051/427.215.png?ex=67e0054f&is=67deb3cf&hm=f76cbdc761c5e5066648617e029c07e7cba9366b2e734405a426c99ff94cd44b& ||, and that's the best I've done in a contest. So I don't have personal experience of evolutions doing better
I mean a gabite/wooper got higher than my fully evolved pokemon
both by me
but another non if contest would get me SO FUCKING HYPED
Probably because the evolved thing wasn’t a wooper
Wooper is your muse
Well there you go. It's not about the stage, it's execution 🙂
vehicular manslaughter
What counts as a “major error”?
✅ What counts as a technical error
Here are the kinds of reasons for why a sprite should be flagged for an edit/replacement:
- Half-pixels;
- Large blocks of pixels from poor enlarging. (double pixels?);
- Blurriness;
- JPG artefacts;
- Stray pixels;
- Wrongly recolored areas;
- No shading;
- No black outlines;
- All black outlines;
- No outlines;
- Double outlines/staircasing;
- Has a bunch of similar, barely distinguishable colors;
❌ Sprites that are simple, a little rough around the edges or unconventional will NOT be edited. These include issues such as:
- Line colors being in the wrong places;
- Jagged lines;
- Pillow shading;
- Messy/misplaced shading;
- Anatomy issues;
- Pasted fusion parts not fitting quite right;
- Overuse of dithering;
- General ugliness;
- Oversized sprites;
- Using gen 3-style shading or outlines;
- Using gen 3 or gen 4 palettes;
- Using the body's color palette;
- Using the palettes from both halves of the fusion;
- Creating new shades or entirely new colors;
- Joke sprites that intentionally do not follow the rules (e.g. pictures of Stan Lee)
- Unconventional designs that still clearly show both halves of the fusion;
- Design choices that you personally don't like.
(Although, technically, gabite/wooper requires as many evolutions as diancie/palossand)
not vehicular. banned!
Calm down Draven
these aren't the most fair to use here
The scoring guidelines say 2s should only be granted for major errors
So either I made a dire mistake that wasn’t commented on, or the judges are ignoring the scoring guidelines
stuff like heavy jaggies will definitely get you points cut in a contest but it's just not bad enough to warrant giving permision to someone to edit the sprite since most of the time the original spriter doesn't respond in sprite errors
yea, like pillow shading is def a major error in my book
did someone say spriter telephone
I didnt call you with my spriter telephone
yeah error guidelines are different from judging guidelines because most of the time when a sprite is reported for an error it ends up with giving permission to someone else than the artist edit the art so it has to be stricter
and also there are plans to update the error guidelines but I have no idea when
soon(tm)
when the mass repositioning tool comes out 
I feel editing the scoring guidelines was a mistake, since it’s still not clear to the entrants what the judgment criteria are
you are too new but we had a convo about it in chansey chat and I think it's being worked on again
just checked chansey chat, woohoo!!!!
either way I always get a score avrage of exactly in the middle of the used number range so it doesn't matter to me
my sprites are as avrage as you can get
🤔 still unsure why I’m still upset…
And whether tying the votes to the comments would fix that?
Is it some “inadequate for the game” thing? An assumption that low judgement means your sprite is low-effort and should be replaced?
right now would be an awesome time to know how to shade/sprite fluff 
most people feel somewhat bad when comments are made about their work so I would say some natural pride we have in stuff we make as humans
||I wanna give some info on how judging works for the mental peace of some, I guess, but I am uncertain on how much is okay to share.
Let me just tell you that getting an average of 5 is a perfectly fine and a still good score to get.||
I mean yeah getting the average score as average as possible is expected for me, most people are average that's how it works
Because when I compare my sprites to the ones that placed the same vs placed higher, I can see that ig. And it was the placement that irked me before I looked at the score, if I’m fully honest with myself 🤔
Maybe I’m comparing placement in a contest to placement vs the average sprite I see in spritework?
Woolgathering, trying to sort out my feelings…
Maybe at least on what a 2 actually means
Because a “major error” sounds, well, major
Might be this 🤔
generally people with some more experience tend to join contests so yeah, with my score of perfectly in the middle average I'm usually below the half way point of scores and not in the middle
did it used to be a 5 point scale?
just require that judges at least make a 10 second comment on half the sprites
look, I know you are dying to know, but #1 I'm not sure if I can just post the guidelines here and #2 they are just guidelines for us as well. they aren't rules. They are there to give the judges a general idea of what can be a possible 2. But to give you a bit of peace, a 2 can still constitude for an "average" sprite. it is usually just held back by something like ikd shading for example in a way that a judge can't unsee how it would work better with that shading.
It is in the end all still very opinionated but if they thought your sprite was really really bad they would have given you lower scores. I think you even had a 6 in there right? That means someone thought it is above what gamefreak could make
the guidelines are linked at the top of the results spreadsheet so I imagine it is fine to talk about
I'm sure people would feel a lot better about getting low scores if there was a 5 word explanation rather than a blank square from 60% of the judges
idk you guys have your own process and I don't really care personally
tbf, comments take a LONG amount of time 
ohhh okay. I have taken a longer hiatus from contests and judging that I didn't know if we needed to be secretive lol
A lot of that is because there's no need to make 4 separate comments about the same thing when 1 judge has already pointed out the major issue in their comment
(That’s one reason why I don’t like rushing results)
I think it'd be a lot more interesting if you couldn't see other judge comments before you make yours
but ig that's more effort
u guys would die if you joined judged contests when it not even had comments 💔
about comments and not seeing other judges comments, we did receive complaints before when comments where repeated too many times because it felt like judges were punching down on some sprites I guess
can't please everyone 
Lmao, gamefreak gets a 5? 
The scoring guidelines are pinned in #event-announcements , so it’d be… weird? I’d there were a more secret guidelines
gamefreak sprites r bad if i can be fair 
I can see that 🤔
Sableye is a MESS
Gen 3 Lombre 
I am speaking mainly from a perspective of the reading the comments of other sprites to improve my own skill
lol yes gamefreak is not perfect but they are the middle ground kinda.
so I don't really have a dog in the race
yeah i forced saying it is bad lol it is like fine
Gen 3 Lombre is ass 
there was an event with no voting but only feedback and dear god it took so long to get a good amount of comments (I added my own but I didn't add much because I didn't know what to put) /lh
this is true.. gulpins sprites never reached the roundness it deserves
I know some people will genuinely cry if they get negative comments
I tend to just look at my scores and not read the comments, I know my biggest problem in art as a whole for years is stiff posing so I know I will loose it if I see a comment that just points it out and doesn't explain how to unstiff it
game freak cant even keep the shading for simple spheres consistent from one pokemon to the next
I like reading the comments and the feedback
im working with vespiquen and combee rn and damn their sprites ☠️ im creating a new palette for those
Gamefreak picks and chooses which shapes to overlight or underlight its completely on WHIM
I like it because usually when the good sprites get posted in spritework it's just 30 likes and no feedback
I know my limit so I just don't do it
I would be devastated to hear I made someone cry with my feedback, but at the same time it is the art world. you NEED to put yourself on that stage and let people at you if you wanna get better 
yeah the problem with 8382882 ppl working in different ways
so it's a good way to see the negatives of high level sprites
wrong reply
🤔 yeah, I think my strong reaction came from comparing to the average spritework sprite vs expecting contest-level sprites
guys before win my first contest i received two 0’s in teo different judged contests and at that time we not even had comments like someone else mentioned above lol
this is in all walks of life yeah not just art
i was right here asking why 
I think everyone did a good job and we should all go to mcdonalds
at least a negative comment can let you know
oh dang 
datorre went through it lmao
kfc have a new sandwich btw crunch salad i want to try
i was almost sick trying to understand the reason of the 0’s
meet me at 200 N Main Street, Haysville, KS 67060
i searched up random mcdonald
Just a McFlurry, ig
can you grab me a cappuccino
and worst at that time it was FULL SUBJECTIVE
I was at mcdonalds earlier and got a wrap and an iced coffee. late snack for me trying to fix my sink lmao
no guidelines or criteria
maybe they were 10s and they forgot the 1
true 
-1 because bruxish is there
it's like when you get a 1 in poland on a test and you joke that it's just a german 1
Ideally, I would like some way to identify which scorer went with each comment
Though I doubt it would make me happier about the result 🤔
“Okay, XYZ gave me a 2 and didn’t like my shading” vs “XYZ gave me a 5 and didn’t like my shading”
BASICALLY YEA
i remember that a judge gave me a 0 and when i asked here they said it was cuz i used galarian moltres color on fire but then i saw that they gave a 3 to a sprite that literally uses alola dugtrio as head
Judges are expected to provide a comment when they give something a low score, so if you get one low score you can assume it's that judge, and if you get multiple low scores and not as many comments, you can assume that the judges shared opinions and didn't want to give multiples of the same note

plus sometimes a error can be a different value depending of the judge
btw here is a quick note for the folks (because I will start judging again some undefined time in the future)
||I personally judge technical execution the hardest out of everything. If your sprite is amazing and I find a staircase, you bet your hat that Gasmask will remember this™ I consider myself to be one of the stricter judges, but since I do it to everyone it balances out
I also give a shitload of explanation usually||
||as a side note, I did not judge this time, I am still on hiatus||
time to do arceus/palossand for by sky and make it a stairway to heaven
take that, staircase haters!
Staircase arceus gets the first ever perfect 12
I still want the anti contest someday where everyone just submits the worst sprites they can muster
suddenly i want that too wtf
sprite drawn entirely with this brush and no solid pixels
🤔 hmm
My immediate reaction to this is again “why not tell me in spritework?” Hmm
if only everyone used the same software that kind of challenge would be dope
ping all the contest judges on your thread 
I do my best to submit a legit sprite and get top marks anyway 😔
Tbf it's not really the judges job to coach entries before they are entered, and i also think that's a bit unfair if the judges are straight up telling you exactly what you need to change beforehand in order to secure a high score, yaknow?
air brush is a soft semi transparent brush so anything similar works
you think I got time to do that? I am taking care of a wheelchair bound fiancee at home and only occassionally do more feedback in spritework. usually for people that just start out with sprites or when I know the person and the feedback is gonna be done with quick 
mr crabs, i have an idea!
or bases
I was musing on my reaction
I see you in most bases threads I get taged in by feedbas
Not demanding you do it
Me
Gasmask
Taking care of someone who's wheelchair bound
yeah most of judges r not feedback givers, what is fair can u imagine judges giving feedback to all spritework entries 
Wait you had the double bursitis right
Lurantis****
brazilian
I was seriously not sure lmao. either way I am happy to help when someone pings me
that being said I tend to keep away from contest sprites for the exact reason I don't allow my bases for contests. I do not wanna end up being biased
For subjective elements, definitely. But if there are obvious technical errors and people in Spritework are telling me it’s ready, how am I gonna notice?
I hope I don’t get double bursitis 
But yes
a long time ago this was my attempt at breaking every pixel art rule i know
I really liked that one a lot, she was serving and eating 😍
the pain of spritework. Ideally you got someone you can ping to give you more in-depth feedback. Or maybe you can exchange feedback with some other people. Usually when you are active in giving feedback it can come around to you and people will click on your sprites more often. The magic of networking 
Your image is still squae
You lose
:(
the gradient is All of it
but how could i forget about pillow shading
i’m a bad spriter and i should go to jail
Also not enough Jpeg artifacting 
working on my Lapras concepts because apparently mine havent been clear
Can yall still tell its a Lapras
Gonna need community assesssment tbh
Can’t do pillow shading if there’s no shading
But it is shaded
Good im glad you guys can tell apparently I cant tell what a Lapras looks like
It has highlights
Carracosta??? 😱😱😱
My aerodactyl was once mistaken for a charizard, so
Highlights you can nap on 😌
one day I need to make a ditto body for a contest and see how far I can get with that since it's what most of my sprites are
My one weakness! 
Where’s that one Inigo Montoya image
bulbasaur 
(yes it's recognizable)
if we ever get an anti-contest I will submit this pikachu/drifloon
my best work as of today
Good honestly again if it wasnt for someone else Id be unable to make a Lapras on my own. I have no idea what pokemon look like.
Maybe if i spend a year in spritework giving feedback ill figure it out
hey i got the salamence treatment so i sympathize 
eggs in the nest, yes?
Gosh if only Charizard and Salamence had different arms
and if the 2 of them didnt have something on their tails it'd be easier to tell the 2 of them apart
either eggs or birbbabies
Wide, just cause one of your fusions is slightly unclear, doesn't mean all your pokemon or laprases are. no one is saying that. 
Its not at all unclear. Theres no other alternatives
How many pokemon with long necks lay on their stomachs
with a big rimmed shell on their back
the shell coulda been more round imo 
The comment was "Is this Lapras"
without an alternative to the body being Lapras I just...
Obviously they could figure it out, but felt it could be more clear 
obviously they could figure it out end of story for me
If theyre brave enough to stand up for that call they should DM me
I wont out them
making a non standard alt intended sprite that is intentionally not the clearest shape can be always an option even if there isn't another similar mon
I don't think it's unreasonable to have the opinion 'I can see this is x mon, but I look at a lot of sprites and can see how an average player might not see it'
A good fusion is able to clearly display both pokemon. A mediocre one is a fusion you have to figure out by process of elimination
@whole arrow reminder that being able to take feedback graciously is required to keep your spriter role, now stop throwing a fit because you dont agree with a piece of feedback, please 
The best fusions are mine
That’s not a good sprite Thorns
Missing outlines and shading
Also inverse alt where?
And it isnt smt I made
yr not a good sprite 
I know, you didn’t have to be like that 
?tag kiss
I love how howls is probably typing smt serious and were just here joking around
I mean at the end of the day it’s better to be silly than serious
Actually wait don’t quote me on that
To an extend yes
That’s a horrible saying
Oh
not worth it
Dunno if I really care enough to poke the wasp nest
Here get wimper'd

You should just walk away before one spots you
Furry art 
I'll just leave it at "a sprite only being identifiable by the logic of 'well, what else could it be? / nothing else fits' is inherently flawed imo"
Haha I spotted howls
Leave my icon alone Gdei drew it for me
Put him on trial for vandalism
Uh metang plushie distract!
Fwiw this is the actual art, gdei just somehow read my sona as a weird furret and had to draw it lol
I mean she was not wrong tbh
I can see the resemblance
Fair lol, especially at icon size
I mean I tried drawing
I mean at the end of the day (night), it’s a start
To necro post a lil as a treat, I don't really see what's wrong with gen 3 lombre from that sprite earlier
share with us the sprite? 👀
the gen 3 lombre?
is just bad ig
the random dot of bluish green inside of the warmer green area looks bad
the eye bother me and the lack of black outlines too
we cant even use "the gen style" as excuse cuz on gen 3 they used black outlines too so idk
lombre lookin messy
I tend to notice spots of colours that are out of place so the random dot was the first thing I saw
That'll be AA'ing the line in under 16 colours though 😛
I find that a lot of "Gamefreak sprites are bad" breaks down to "they had limitations we aren't acknowledging" or "we favour sprites in a different art style" 

Like, our contest winners make gorgeous stuff, but it's usually horrifically out of place if transplanted by itself into Pokémon
it just doesn't look good with how big the hue difference is because it's AAing two areas that have the same hue with each other
it's very blue comparing to both
and it's the only two pixels of that colour in the whole sprite so can't be colour count limitation because it's not reusing a colour
without those 2 blue pixels the entirety of gen 3 would fall apart
GEN 3 LOMBRE!!!
look small things like this bother me the most, it's usually the first thing I see in sprites before bigger most obvious mistakes
that's how my brain works tiny out of place things jump out to the front for me
it's just their spaghetti code
if you remove those 2 pixels victory road becomes impassable
or something
btw b4 i forget maybe u didnt read the entire convo xd now sleep
I spotted a single out of colour pixel on a rung in a background of a non pixel art game, weird colours are just what I see first
Unless I zoom right into it, I think that part of the linework actually looks good.
If I just use my phone to look at the three of them together - don't open the image - that looks like a really smooth line (and introduces a slight variety to the shadows)
I support the blue pixels, but it is very weird they don't come from the bluer part of the sprite
my tablet has saturation pretty high so they probably end up looking way more blue for me
all my screens have different saturation so I don't know which one would be the most acurate
how waste one color quick tutorial
c0c0c8 my beloved ❤️
Which brings us to the other thing. Without viewing it on a GBA it's really hard to say how bad they actually look.
A lot of sprite funkyness looks really good on particular old screens
now that I think about it didn't a lot of the leaked not used mons have no black outlines as well
that just kinda feels like the sprite didn't get finished to proper outline colouration and would explain the blue pixels that look like they were meant to work as outline for the bluish body parts but just didn't get added there with the whole thing using darker green
definitely looks a lot softer next to the rest of the line with outline one outline colour
Yeah. Tbh it does feel a little like that colour was in more places, and then they missed those two pixels after they removed it from all the obvious locations
like the outlines feel more in style with a lot of these than the rest of gen 3 with how soft they feel without black
actually lombre wip is on that list and looking at the early version would explain why the outline around the beak and claws on the feet is green instead of red like on the fingers, they were originaly green and never recoloured after the change
Why is someone shining a huge flashlight at him 
spoilered for more woolgathering and i don't want to spam this up with my feelsies any more
||think it might also be frustration in myself at only being a mediocre spriter (because ~surely~ I can only be excellent at everything i try
) and not being able to grok how to improve/not wanting to put in the effort to improve. 🤔 Wanting to be good at my current skill level, perhaps||
T-Posing Metang
I feel like I entered the texture awards instead of the by land contest
Sorry that's my fault 
I totally used the contest as an excuse to practice textures I don't normally do 
finally got 3 winner role
now
i dont have to do any contest anymore
farewell event gen 
No airmen?
:v i realized it was just a waste of time
cuz they get minus point
if u hav fun is not a waste of time friend
rushing. sprite in 5 hour is not fun
Me: [throws a fit]
also me: [signs up for more]
i mean
don't rush, silly!
or just ignore all time events 
or pace urself
i mean u had a really good entry ready u only rushed cuz u wanted to 
rush stuff is really stressful and not worthy
:v why u have that feather and not a hat
no mod could change
so i accept the feather
join event is not worthy anymore when i got all the role
get the role and give it to me
I see no POTW role
@acoustic saddle when are you going to beat the ultimate competitor, RNG? 
i guess i can do a smoll sprote for it
only time can tell
pieces of trash winner????
Pirates of the Waribbean
warrio
I know it's Wario 😔
but it's Waluigi in my heart
Lemme get on the computer fsr it literally just says "lol sorry no, do this on a pc" if you try on mobile
yeahh i figured out dw
wait a bit is not that bad 
man gordo is reall good at making icons that really aren't legible at all as an icon
ah, it says "By Land"
this is why we need to revive the secret chat, DaTorre you were so much better at making the NCC icons lol
anyways goin to bed night
(if you make a better icon feel free to dm it or send it in the group chat
)
it was just so funny to me haha, i loved to work on the icons
sorry for the full delay btw was watching severance finale so i just did the hat p quick and not even read the entire convo 😛
I really should stop thinking I can make Roserade bodies without flowers for hands...
it looks like bamboo xD
🚬


@limpid sphinx you have been hatted
hat!!!! thanks howls 
and since im now back from that long break i can work on the NCC icons! i like to do it and i like to help 
and tbf with gordo i liked when they did the icon of speed spriter for me, that ring was clean 
welcome back
I should probably un-hiatus at some point too, I forgot why I added it
piss
drink water!
didn't you say you felt terrible because of tooth infection around the same time you went grey
oh yeah that was probably it
their teeth got reinstated
antibiotic kicked it fortunately, and I have an appointment tomorrow to get that fixed up
howls is yellow again 
contest idea: there’s this like chef guy and he’s like “i want a fusion who’s sweet at first, but has a spicy aftertaste” and then you make like a blissey/weavile or something
idk
mini-event it
it would possible be too similar to MM
lol fair
maybe u could give that idea to yuma and in a possible future MM case the evidences are from a restaurant XD
Is MM not merge may?
No it’s Mother’s Merge, the new contest for Mother’s Day 
Perfect for vespiquen, salazzle, and miltank
Wait, does MM mean Merge may? every time I say MM I meant Magicarp Mysteries, I hope I didn't confuse anyone when talking about it lmao
I always heard Mergemay called by its full name, never by an acronym
thought u guys was being sarcastic
same haha
yeah i think mergemay is just mergemay and mm is magikarp mysteries
at least i was talking about it 
I was just guessing. I don't know if people call merge may MM
No problem, I didn’t think you forgot, I thought you were busy typing the message 
Terraria mentioned, nice
My whole sprite concept is ruined
What was your Original Plan?
happy ghast fusion
Procrastinate
i already have my sprites planned out 
👍
No, your Concept
we know 
I’m joking, I didn’t think it was by space
We know
i have to fix this gamefreak base cause the base i wanted to use is not for contest use 
What's the green sigil in the clouds....?
am i tweaking or is it flickering?
NOOOOOOO THE THEME IS AVIAN
I CANT CONTINUE PIF YURI
But Yuri is all about birds
do dinos count as avian
Prob's Ray-Ray
my idea…. was an exeggutor/goodra………. and it was alolan exeggutor…. and the sky part was like having its head up in the clouds and there was a birds nest on its head and there were birds flying around it…… Sigh………
no dragons? 
I had such a good dragon idea 
Gatekeeping
So my first time doing an event. It can be any fusion as long as its in IF and bird themed?
yes
Just switch Goodra for Tropius
And then it'd have the same general theme, no?
Still a sauropod and not a bird
damn not by sky 😔
Turn it into an Altaria/Goodra
plus tropius isn’t in the game 
You’re right my bad
Demetina
If I don't look up what avian means I can just not include it 👍
But yeah, that Green Sigil on the Clouds is most likely Ray-Ray
or whatever zubat learns brave bird its a bird 
which definition are we using tho 
@cedar quest this quote seems a bit too aquatic for the air 
Fixed
The quote now says "everything that flies"
Probably fair to assume a very loose definition of "avian"
Yeah

Did I read Alolan Exeggutor?
so the first definition?
if so technicalky dinos are relation to birds
Yeah
so can we do dragons or not??







