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Muscle genie
Demon genie
Meanwhile with marshadow its a wispy fighter
And thats about it
There could be fun had anyways in spriting a little fella version of Pokémon. It'd be a powerful fusion in a small body. That's what most Pokémon get stuck with anyways (The first or middle evolutions). Marshadow's got some stuff for cute and cool
want your old job back? 
LC has a losers bracket?? wow
Yeah man
Ensurance of quality & fair play within voting
That's how I do
Makes sure that the contest is as fair as possible
Although it is a lot
and I mean a lot
of work
I may do what Mael had done and split these earlier rounds themselves into seperate days
After all Winners Round 2 is 128 polls total
((and Loser's Round 1 is only 2, but that's not my point)
May do like, 32,32,32,32 or smth
Keeps me from getting burnt out, and makes sure the stuff gets done
It's happening 👀
why is snorunt ditto a rectangular prism
ice cube
you can't do that, you'll turn them into a water type if you use soak on them, that'd be bad for gameplay reasons
I thought a new Pokémon was getting revealed
i need to go reveal the winners
you know the winners?
I thought I got spotlight 
Is the spotlight a reference?
its
no clue i just like it
Oh lmfaoooo
maybe this is why i need to use , more often
To a hockey puck shuffling puck hunk of ice thingy yes
i just think its cute, i gave it a 5
It slides at 100 mph
Is it the toaster from Cave Story?
Highest speed stat of any pokemon
wait, that's a hockey puck? but they're a rectangular prism
curling? you mean curling?
"i need to go, reveal the winners"
Sorry I forget his name ^^;
Nevermind, it looks different ^^; My visual memory sucks lol
Balrog!
I should make a Balrog fusion if there isn't one yet
Curling! yeH
Nice
Tee bruh
lmao
pats
Interesting frosslass tyrunt 
best reveal
glalie probopass :)
DAMMIT
probopass moment
HAHAHA THE NAMES
Guys staff vote still visable smh, only staff is Tee 
Aw, I really thought I had a chance this time. Oh well :'P
Guys ive had such a long day
xD
winner knows they had to do it to em
I thought so too, until like the last 2 days when more bangers kept getting submitted aahahaha 🥹
I got tenth place 
8 
2 
76

I like the score of DITHERING
wait... where's the Glalie/Gardevoir one... it was my fav
the highest i have scored ever 
i... at least i placed less low than last time relative to last place...
i really thought i did good at what the judges liked this time while still fulfilling my own wants, too...
Anyone want to return me a favour and show me where my snorunt/sneasel got? 🙂
lmao
Got 45th this time w/ my Ledylass. Any advice? Score was 4, 2, 3, 3, 4, 1, 4, 4, 1, 3, 4
oh we're allowed to look at the specific votes this time?
Heck yes! 😄
Thank you 
Ah 40th 🥲
I think about a littttle higher than last time, I'm making my way up hehehe
I don't know how the Ditto one beat both the Glalie/Probopass and Froslasspras
Both look way more awesome
NO 1S OR 0S!!!!
"End me" you ok Tee? 
i was not wanted as dead this time :)
(JOKE)
sorry sometimes i forget the horrors of contest general
it didnt, its a spotlight, basically a sprite we like, that didnt win
The shading was out of style and made it look blurry
Oh ok, I see
go look at the reveal and tell me
i didn't even get a single 3 or higher...
Where if you don't mind my asking? Just so I can try to fix it
Four 2's 
I'm totally content with just barely sneaking into the top 20
the entire thing lol
the council of Tees will decide your fate
68th place tied 30 points with a few people i think i did better than last time but i forgor .. !
Now I'm definitely wondering where I can improve, would help my further scratch sprites ahahaha
and 5 4s, thats pretty good
That's true 
Ok, I'm happy the Lapras one won, it's really awesome
Did worse than last time but this was fun
i do mean what i said about the 3 in 4th tho, i wish i could show those too, the top 6 are rly good
mine got a pretty good score even if it didn't win! and I knew going as large as I did was a slight risk, even though the actual head and froslass body are only slightly larger than actual froslass
does whatever a spider maid does
anything glaring?
My entry may have got 2 1's, but it didn't get a 0
97th vs 68th. i am doing better
who? 
thats a win for me
84 
It looks good!
Overlord Best dark fantasy anime
how do i remove the link fromshowing up a little pop up
Besides berserk
i guess i technically placed higher than the showcase
outline shading's a bit too light in areas, otherwise I woulda given it a 5
i Dont Want You
2 is neutral though, so I think my only issue is it doesn't stand out ahaha
A h, I can see it!
Could have some more black outlines but i like it
never heard of it 
who here knows discord its making the gallery look ugly
The one time I use too little black outlines XD
Can anyone help me figure out how it's blurry? No one mentioned it and I can't see it but I've probably been looking at it too long
@wind matrix heads up the sheet is fully editable lol
Who gets to vote in these mini contests? Everyone or just certain people? 🤔
I shoulda made the arm connector a bit larger so that it resembles magneton more 
it's because you have the shading too gradual
Staff
I think I got less points than last contest ;-;
Same ;-;
ok somehow i got a lower personal score but i ranked higher . but i got a more decent Average score
strange
@plucky arch
Pfffth
Less judges maybe?
are there?
you couldve changed it 
I hope thats the reason, I feel like my submission this time is better than my first one
WOW
🤦
.I sneaked into top 178, LETS GOOOOOO!
Guys don't actually edit it please
but still I'm fine with it as participating in contests lets me know what I could do better next time
make sure to roll back ay recent edits staff
Oop saved
how do I see the placements?
someone didn't like my snow horsey 
ohhh okay
ogh fuck
hows it feel orange boy
shh you
nothing was edited according to the version history 
Me seeing the results on the message for a split second before i get blown up with a nuke
Maybe too much Vitamin C?
to be annoying orange colored
./j
So uh, you guys looking for more contest managers to replace Gordon? 
HUJ!OETHFUIJI*SDJUHRNIWJSDHU
w o w
SO OVER
the sheet is view only now btw 
(I'm joking you're doing great
)
I had a feeling that one snorunt wynaut would NOT make it
Top 1 had an almost perfect score 
cant wait to see what i get
uhhh thats on the frog
^ nervous
omg
I feel the lapras bias
so like, feedback on what's wrong with mine? i know what i did wrong in the tyrantrum contest but i feel like those aren't issues here. it's not overly specific to the reference and the components are clear, right?
Results time soonish
No bias there, it's an incredible sprite, it has a lot going for it
Unless someone has a link for me 
To be honest I am glad the ones that I gave feedback got decent scores
nah its just a Rly good sprite
Not that important, but could the title in #contest-gallery be wrong?
Was the original shading better? Is it okay if I ask that here? Sorry I just want to make sure I'm not getting worse at spriting ^^;
i cant tell what the fusion is
or what its holding, or what the green thing at the bottom is
uhh hmmm way too cluttered personally
Is it? I am not quite mindblown or anything like that
just a lot going on
GOD DAMMIT IT IS WRONG
THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT
Yo epic tyrunt contest results
rooofl
tee crying being the sole contest manager
i am going to piss all of your pants
I can see the copy-pasting actions
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
first place is a really good entry, it could be even better though if it has SFX and was a kaiju and had twice the dithering
I've been waiting so long for the Tyrunt results glad to see em 
Lol brutal
bit hard to tell the fusion. the tail's not really holding up the body. you combined the colours of the mons. and the refrence stuff just feels like an ad-on
No no, it's was a Tyrunt contest, it's just the winners won with any other Pokémon. Simple 
TOP THIRTY :D
??? they have a lot of traits from both ambipom and froslass. they have a frozen stick/staff and are sitting over a small visual of a big mountain.
Now that this contest is finished I’m pretty hyped for what the next one will be.
So when new Pokémon 
I believe it's one of those anime that's incredibly graphic in the violence department, possibly in the sex department too
i think the thing at the bottom is a mountain
Yeah mine was just not good this time, had like no inspiration. Gonna try to do better next time though, and nobody outright hated it!
Asking the real questions I see
Anyone with the actual spreadsheet see where Arcanine/Froslass ended up?
Hm, I think you used too many highlights to try showing the depth, usually you want to use the shadows to get the shape readable first and then add those, overall it seems too well lit, it's the best to keep the highlight to the thing that is the closest to the lightsource and the camera and not much more
We must know 
i want to see the spreadsheet but i must be patient
Yes we must
tied for 41st with a couple ppl
the only difference is the colour of the pattern 
Neat
Oh no the opposite I'm Arcanine/Froslass not Froslass/Arcanine
Prolly a bit lower lol
They're froslass ambipom though, they have froslass's face and hands and the colours weren't combined, they're all froslass colours (froslass just has some palettes i could use for ambipom). how would i make the tail look more like it's holding up the body to you, because it looks fine to me. i feel like the reference helped me make choices that help it stand out instead of just "That sure is those two Pokemon combined"
Ye that one impressed me so a little surprised
any advice for future sprites?
i already know what my issue was with my sprite. i made it htinking of the game not the contest :)
if you unironically agreed with this let me know so I can block you
If it's not the color then what's making it look blurry ;-;
My gym leader role lasted two days 
No idea what they were judging with, only my personal opinion
Hi tie buddy!
That do be life like that
sorry, this one?
Where is the spreadsheet I wanna have a look
Ye...
combining colors of mons is fine but ultimately you need to do it with clarity in mind
i gave it a great score iirc, only thing that made it lose points for me is using the outline shade for the shadows, its a bit too intense for the pokemon gen 5 style
what did I do wrong on this one?
Geez I didn't think I did that bad
Still like it! You did good
imo looks like a too much sprite yk
gen 5 style more like gen why style am i right guys lets aim for every sprite to be from each gen 
I actually really liked this one I Wonder about that
If it makes you feel better, you got no 0s, just a bit on the low end of the score around the board
anyone who doesn't have a math disorder know which place my froslass ninetales ended up? it's 37 points
Hey we did the opposite fusion :D
it was probably becouse there were a bunch of gengar line sprites and it was a bit pale 
Yeah glad I didn't get zeros
Kiwi when new pokemon 
you mean like too much going on?
Yup lol
I'm on mobile so I can't grab an image, but any feedback on my traffic cone mimikyu?
It looks quite off from the pokemon style
but i said i didn't combine them? am i missing something?
Should I add 2 purple shades then? Since the original only has the base and the outline
look at handstand refrences. you just have the fingers at the bottom. not the palm.
it's still not coloured very seamlessly 😅
and refrences do NOT increase your chances of winning in this contest
omg you're the one that did that one? I LOVED IT LOL such a smart idea
okay guys the link is back
👇 this damn animal
Cone was a PERFECT item to use!
Hehehhe one of my favorites
tomorrow when i wake up 
Curious on feedback since it scored a bit low, want it to look good since I plan to submit it once I get past spriter application.
When do we get a mythical minicontest
🥹
yea something like that xd, but dont is a bad sprite for me
Good sleep!
You spent a lot of time on it so I understand why you would feel like that
Also gn
no black outline. overuse of special effects. they're not really fused together seemlessley
YEESSSS! thank you 
DAMN.
"This is where I watched my parents die, Raphael."
'When's the next pokemon??'
I love them
imo this is a solid sprite, i have 0 criticisms, its just simple compared to the fully custom pose ones and stuff
Oh no I'm not upset I just wanna improve
OK, noted on the first part
Where are the seams?! what's the issue with the colouring?
I didn't SAY the reference increases the chance of winning what's that even in response to -.-"
rip xatu/snorunt i thought you were special
did okay this time round, any advice for the next contest?
???
i love these little feedback sessions
therses black lines
I hate them I just wanna shitpost smh
The only thing that I'd change is the tail area, I find it a bit confusing like i'm not quite sure what's going on, I think it's mostly because of the pose/silhouette
Not enough of em XD
You did good though! It blends very good! Keep at it!
I explained it already 😅
you have the shading too gradual. it needs to be sharper
I think it means they look too "Frankensteined" together
honestly i thought this was good for the game but i do suppose it's probably not exactly great for a contest
nothing escept for the ice magcargo is really solid so I didn't use a lot of black for the lines
It doesn't have much blending between the colors and looks more mashed together
ok, then not enough black outline 
Gotcha guess the "don't use default pose" was a bit more of an impact this time then. I didn't have time to make a custom for this last contest even tho I got the same feedback on the Tyrunt one but I'll have to use custom for sure this next time.
here's a bigger one if anyone wants to tear into it
I think the fire could use a touch up to align with current mons and the shading on the arms is reversed is all!
Very cute!
i got a 0 how
i got 8th without sfx or all of those shenanigans
meru would be proud
Dont look at me like that, I thought you were decent!
Lol I had no entry, gave up on my fuse
Only thing I can think of is "not enough Gastly"
From what I notice you have some instance of "double outline" like you have a black outline right next to just one line of darker shadow pixel, that tends to make things look blurry and it's something they avoid in the official style
that's a different thing from colour, though. and i don't see how, it's all of the body of ambipom with all of the face and colours of froslass.
man that Tee 6 seems rly harsh huh
a bit hard to tell if its a koffing or gastly
All i'm saying if that I didn't get a 0
you used too many shades for what was needed 😅
What I had
tru
Curious on feedback for this little guy!
I was gonna make it a little pink but it didnt fit
the 1's were because my sprite is number 1!! wooooo!!!
cuz gastly is inside the body
it has neither the face of froslass or the body of ambipom. it just has tail hands
Everyone loved it tho 😉
bluebonz show your entry 
wdym? you mean the shading on the mimikyu shadow or on the paint?
To be fair square snorunt did good so cutesy shape was the trick maybe
it's pretty basic. the fire effect needs work, and you need more coloured outlines
TWO!
TOLD YA
WOOO!!!
I know my strengths xD
Congrats to Tenz and Meru though
2 time podium winner Meru
Gg
again i just want to know what i did here
It's funny how differently I placed in this contest compared to the last 😅
it makes me feel better to know im just average
???
but im just curious on what to improve
i thought he was a beautiful little boy honsetly
To be fair I saw someone do this
Probably the paint? I just looked at the colour count in piskel 
i loved his absolutely insane face
Thanks
a froslass duh
I am desperate for feedback
lol fair
i mean the hands are froslass but someone already said they're cluttered they don't need 6 hands total lol
shading is rly good, just a bit more bland and a little confusing
Thats a froslass on lopunny
There is quite a bit going on for my eyes to focus on, the ice almost gives Pineco vibes ahaha
But it's a fun sprite!
And that wasnt the final one weird
i did mean it for the confusing part, but wdym on the bland part? just the posing?
give me his location i swear it will be funny
i think that's more of a xatu thing if so, i didnt want to do a crazy pose because it's usually just chilling in all its sprites
i suppose that's more my bad for not picking an interesting contest mon
The shading could use some work, you have a lot of big flat areas, like the legs and the cloth in the middle
hes just kinda standing there like the "yknow i had to do it to em" guy
Thats true, Xatu is always on a chilling pose
OH GOD
Now to never submit to submit my contest sprite to the gallery and force others to do work i should be doing
leans back Ah, the free lifestyle
DAMN IT
I don't think it's that bad, but you did get the shading pretty eh, like you can some parts covered fully by shadows if they're behind the body and not really sticking out
Rim highlight spotted
i just realized theres 3 other guys with the same score as me 
I DIDNT KNOW THAT WAS GONNA GET ME DOCKED POINT WISE BUT I SHOULD'VE KNOWN!!!!!
Pitbull go
thx!
the ice is probably one of the main "reference" things but I DO just like the concept of "Froslass's ice shards resemble a fluffy hoodie when they're taking over a Pokemon who wouldn't be adapted to the cold" regardless
that wasnt intentional
ahh okay 🫡
its so over
Basically you have the top half coloured one way, and the bottom half coloured another way. So it looks jaring.
and I was replying to your message saying that refrences help it stand out more for the contest 😅
Is this better?
im so happy my pixel art is becoming better tee bee etch
Woah that looks nice
wut is it? 
xatu/snorunt
Oops, posted them backwards
yea! we i got,,,, a lot more of these to go, so still time to improve much more
.You call it "a 0"... I Call it "being controvertial".
I couldn't find any black outlines 
I'd ask Thorns for feedback but I already had, so not getting a higher score is Thorns' fault
To be fair it does look like that lol
its meant to reference xatu's weird fake face
what could I improve for next time?
Black lines on the bottom red
but in a more strange and alarming manner (with the nasty disgusting eyes on the top that are just xatu's but smaller)
i'm not gonna repost them again but there's no difference in how they're coloured up top, that's just where the ice is because they're froslass and froslass has a couple of icies sticking out of their face which i extremified for the reference. the purple comes from their face and the yellow and azure come from their eyes.
I did NOT say "for the contest" I just meant in general -.-"
I circled some of the areas I meant, like you have thin stips of shadows between areas, that's what makes it feel off, since pokemon sprites use much starker constrast, there ususaly isn't close transitions like that between colors
I got 39th
I Will thank you
I’m happy with that
Outline on the left side is too light. And the design seems a tad off, but I can't explaine why
.It's not about the looks, it is about the deeper meaning.
@livid tulip dw your gym leader role is stayin
HEEHEE thank you
my NOT AGGRON glalie/volcarona did so well against this contest full of great sprites
GG everyone 
Waoh dip sheet bru
I'm surprised the next pokemon isn't revealed yet
Thank goodness these contests don't dictate what gets in the game, cause ya'll would go feral 
Bug
i love that sprite so much
Can someone spoil me on the next pokemon so i can cheat for the next contest thanks (joke)
Kiwi needs sleep
its the glalie/natu lol
Yo that is very cool
You know its gonna be an skill issue
saying this because im so busy artwise
What kind of role is that?
im just happy to share 11th place (also that one nidoqueen froslass is so pretttttyyyy)
They are preparing to psyche themselves
I think this is the first one ive made that broke top 100
Admittedly the posing is kinda basic
i want to make it to every single last one but WHOO boy is it hard for me because of my projects
i revealed it on a friday last weeke exceptionally bc i was leaving for a larp 
reveals on saturday now
Ohhhh, did you have fun?
you get it for being 2nd or 3rd in a contest iirc
speaking of
i got so manu bruises + sore legs, i could barely walk
but yes 
@dusk schooner get this man a role
hope there's pikmin fans in chat but im doing something awesome
Love the whole look of this!
LOL
LOLL yeah sounds about right 🤣
yo cool Aggron sprite, you have great sprites
Grats Xeno!
Sounds perfect lol
Ah...
So where is it?
XD
askdjfaklsjdf
Although you prolly want to chill on the backlight 'cause it's a bit too harsh, especially in pokemon style
oh i felt that so bad...hope they heal
@steady pasture thanks!
actually wait
in like 14ish hours lmao
what timezone does the mod team use?
Are you a flipino
LOL
Don't doxx Kiwi like that omg
I Hope for banana
needs some more polish. Especially with the outline shading
it's ok man it happens to most entries
Is this better?
a zero bruh
Who knows :)
im curious because i'm PST and its really hard for me to deal with time
Got it
That's already looking a lot cleaner to me, yeah
I’m happy with 39th it’s much better than how I did in the venipede line contest 
.I'll go even further, be pedantic, and say that the "0" gains its wheight and meaning by it coexistence with the other ratings that are there, and even with the ratings that are absent.
Any other places that are still blurry?
Got it, thank you!
I got one too, such is life 
for me its the hands
Thank you
Really appreciate the feedback on colored lines especially. The sprite will look better for the game. Hopefully this next contest will be a good one.
Holy moly
sidenote xeno i didnt mean to make your sprite so tiny
Oooh, 29th place, i did much better this time
i have no idea why its so small lmao
btw thank you to all sprite managers and Contest Manager for all the feedback :)
I actually surprised I didnt see Frosslass/Mismagius of my witchy friend
Sprite manager lore?
Honestly any place where you'd have a thin line of color
leme take a closer look, 1 sec
OK so, my issues (that I understand) are as follows? (not including reference).
- A bit cluttered, solution not provided
- They don't look physically supported by their tail
Other issues I don't understand to some degree
i couldn't tell lol
I was gonna do Tyrantrum as well but you already did so I didn't bother 
it means a lot to me to get it, and i appreciate you guys taking time out of your day to do it ^w^
(it was gonna be Jade Barroth from MH)
2 people did it before me lol
(ffs why is Premiere Pro's icon so similar to Photoshop's..)
.The IF Manager cinematic Universe.
ong
ok but
i know i posted it before but i got called out for stuff what do people think about her? i know the posing needs work i had made this before i got that initial feedback so the future contest wont suffer from that blandness but is the styling of it alright?
Sooooo
i think its pretty clear but thats because i have a xatu plush on my desk
New Mon when? 
next mon when
Tomorrow
nah hero cmon
I think
just make a custom pose, and add a bunch of sfx 
lmao
sorry, natu plush*
oh uh....
i love natu and xatu and would recognize them anywhere
What Pokémon do you guys what next
Still my favorite
yveltal/xerneas
harassment in the workplace /j
I want Simisear!
@civic mauve would you like to get in a call? might be easier
toxicorak for sure
<-----
Hmm, would you say it looks off in a "Poor design" kind of way? Or more of a "Doesn't match Gen 5" kind of way?
the shading is a little too basic
I want yveltal too but like tropius man
the dinosaur
Meloetta 🥹
LURANTIS
I see people mention "SFX" a lot, is that just environmental effects sort of thing?
XY
?tag sfx
No tag sfx found.
dont summon them
special effects
Special effects yea
I want to see Lycanrock actually
We don't have a tag for that???
uh oh did I do a bad
PLEAAAAAAASE EELEKTROSS/TROPIUS/BEHEEYEM/BRONZONG
?tag specialeffects
Special effects are things such as elemental attacks, which may feature in a lot of sprites, such as fire Pokémon. It can be tricky to render those well in the Pokémon style. Here are some examples of various effects.
and kaiju size, and a ton of dithering, and ill make it a reference!
literal special effects
i want beheeyem even if its impossible
I just made a ninetales since my good sprites are always vulpine pokemon (Jipix, Laneon, Laneon, Jirarua, Mimetales, etc)
Special effects, yeah, basically anything like ice/fire/etc that isn't on the base pokemon sprite of either fusions
Nah just a joke, also here is sfx
one of my faves by far 
Nvm lol, just full name
.Bring my boy Gigalith.
Realistically I'd bet on Rockruff or Spheal. My hope would be that it's my boi Gastrodon lol
There's really no use in trying to explaine it to you 😅
i wonder how many people voted for beheeyem
6
6 million
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1146171639348863117 Here's the spritework thread, I can't do vc right now ^^;
Grrr I should have waited until tropius (hopefully) came out so I can put my tropius/meganium into the contest graaaah
That's... just rude...
dropped from 50 points last contest to 24 this time, ouch
YEAH.
Lycanroc, Diancie, Tropius, Toxicroak, Seviper
90% of pokemon sprites don't have any special effects at all, and those that do are minimal + attached to their body
therefore to keep in line with the pokemon art style, judges tend to discourage sfx
question for contest managers specifically, what do YOU guys think of weird pokemon like beheeyem?
its kinda unpleasant to try to give you feedback when you fight back against everything we say 
I’m not good with sfx anyway
Thank you!
despise
Like Rapidash clearly has some lee way compared to Flareon with fire
weird fuckers get the gutter
Damn. Brutal
||i should probably stop choosing to make fusions for a mon that always ends up looking like ass
||
except Snorunt/Ditto
I like Elgyem's vibe, but Beheeyem provides little extra xD also another psychic type
i WISH zangoose would get in the game but i know that the potential for zangoose sprites isnt as great as other ones. id love to see the goomy line in the game because there would be some really cool things that you could do with not only the goopy but the colours and shapes as well
I'm only giving counterarguments, though.
I forgot beheeyem existed
alien pokemon = best
Xeno lives on the moon
DITTOS ISNT EVEN WEIRD
check the file name to see my opinions on Snorunt/Ditto
Zangoose... Now thats something I would like to see
any feedback on my frosty taled gal?
That's fighting back

lmao
it's not about arguments, you asked for advice and why they voted as they did
Make it cooler geddit?
I just wanna see Meloetta (and probably yveltal) get in
I’m planning on making tropius/mawile for the contest
Then I'll be happy
I actually didn't specify voters, I just wanted feedback in general
Some black outlines on the right half of the tails, and arms is all I got! Very pretty
IF tropius gets in
Those are my only requests
let the kid cook
were not here to argue, were here to help, if you dont agree, its whatever, but dont demand we explain things further 
not to be that guy but criticism/ advice is better taken than argued against and people, not just the voters were giving you feed back
we are all that guy
I just said I didn't specify voters >^<
Hol’ up.. Let him burn it 🔥🔥🔥
you wanted feedback and then started "proving counterarguments" to the thing you asked for
yessir
my man no one is going to give you feedback if you keep arguing everything
Oh boy
all of them
the judges have other stuff to do, take the L and move on
nah bro your sprite looks perfect, keep that on mind and go for it
If someone says "You used both Pokemon's colours" like it's an issue and yet I didn't use both Pokemon's colours then what am I supposed to say? "Yes I agree I used both colours"?
best timezone 
Didn't. specify. judges. I just wanted ANY feedback since I couldn't get any BEFORE the contest and I did poorly still.
HAHA hi
he is oblivious to the wars
I live on Mars and i strongly disagree
pst gang rise up
I do think you're allowed to question feedback if it's questionable/not constructive, but countering every claim without reflecting on it is a wee bit ornery
My dude stop and take breath ok?
I wouldn't say perfect, I got a couple of good pieces of feedback
okay. EVERYONE has other stuff to do, take the L and move on
how do i see the votes i got
i have seen people do it
why the zero?
Now you're bering rude too
post on spritework and do the / feedbackpls thing
Probably the effects or smth
You're acting like I'm being super upset or something?
my apologies good sir, here is your crown and loyal servant your sprite clearly should have been the winner with how great it is
It happens to most of us man
Not acting. I am concerned
I think the use of the red is weird here since Dusclops only has red in the pupil, especially when it has a drastic color change with those bandages. Besides making it bleed from empty eye sockets feels off for a Pokémon sprite and for a fusion based on Dusclops.
And this is mostly my opinion knowing both Dusclops and Glalie designs, but not using Dusclops teeth in a design with big teeth like Glalie is feels like a wasted oportunity.
I think the main issue I see here is that even if it's Dusclops, the use of their attributes isn't the correct or you used certain IF cliche that aren't actually from Dusclops, so my suggestion could be that next time you might prioritize the original head design before using artistic resources that don't belong to the original design.
I dont pretend
I already asked for the feedback.
.Take it with pride.
Could be excess SFX (mostly the mist, I think the ice was good!)
Question, what's the purple on the arms supposed to be?
i gotta admit living on the west coast is so scary sometimes but like
it seems fine. it's just a p basic pose
Can someone check my ranking for froslass/froslass? I can't check it rn
I'm not worried about "taking an L" I'm worried about "trying to improve"
lol youre funny
But you're not listening to critique, you can't improve like that
thorns next contest the pokemon is going to be so posed you wont even realise it was ever standing still
there is no purple on the arms. it has purple legs
thanks i think
(seriously though thank u for the confirmation <3 im excited for what i do next contest)
Not sure which one is yours:
Top one
ouch
^this. i get like that sometimes, and i understand why you feel this way, but its important to take a step back and really take it to heart
OH Omg sorry, I can barely see, don't have my glasses and didn't zoom in X) ignore me whoopsie
This is the second time contests results have kept awake when i'm trying to got to bed. Can anyone give some feedback on my sprite? I scored pretty mid, is it just a boring design?
I'm listening to the critique, and when I'm confused I am voicing my confusion. And then they just say "Nah it's not worth explaining it to you" as if I'm just incapable of understanding
I have no idea 
Sorry I'm not being very helpful 😅
np
it's sound effects 
At least I got some sort of score in each category
Epic. Now I need to get top 1 and I'll get the three roles 
i think theres only 2
Could be the basic-ish pose, but I quite like how elegant it feels!
gym leader and then champion? maybe? not sure
You did good. Al though the feet look a bit off
you're doing it in a way that seems very aggressive, and honestly i dont think you're really taking a lot of it to heart? like, its okay not to agree with someone's design choices for something you made, but part of these contests is appealing to staff's design philosphy
also i haven't caught up with the many people replying to me but someone was like "you're being rude now"
what am i being rude about honestly
wish me luck, this gardevor fusion for the contest bout to go crazy
Sorry that was to someone else dw ^^
Jesus can we be civil please?
Only thing I can say is that the back leg could use more black outlines
oh ok thx for clarifying
im not trying to make this in a sense of being rude by the way
Is there no Tee 12? Why is there an extra column with no header but with numbers?
Average #event-general
i really do get your feelings on this matter
They perished 😔
look at my head boy
Gotcha hopefully no one does anything drastic
LOL, oof
Like becoming abras
Look at my head, Boy
yeah when I was younger I had wonky anatomy in my art and hated when people pointed it out. But then I tried what was suggested and now I get people commenting on how notably well-studied I am in it
That's highly counterproductive for the feedback proces
Swell, probably not too bad for my first contest
Damn, my sprite only got mostly 3s and some 4s. Next time i'll aim to get mostly 4s
pretty much this. you should try things before you give counterarguments
I didnt see it before its beautiful
Tbh, most issues I see in chats get resolved by people just steppng away for a bit ^^ Im sure if it got really bad, staff would have stopped posts and such
Oh thats good
we consumed them for their power
I think you're reading into a tone that just isn't there? The only aggression I have is that I don't like being insulted. And I'm not saying "Your idea is wrong" I'm saying "That criticism doesn't seem to apply to what I did" because that's what I'm arguing against. When someone says I'm combining the colours of both Pokemon when I'm not then I say "No, I'm not" and that's the end of that. I can't work off of criticism when I don't see how it applies at all. I understand that since I like references I'm not gonna get like, #1 or something, but I hope to do better than I currently am at least
Anyway
Very pretty! Love the wings!
Only thing is they could use some black outlines (even if they're auroras) and I can't tell exactly which bird this could be, Pidgeot, Fearow, Ho-oh (I know now that it's Hooh)
I could argue it was my art style all I wanted, but I did in fact have necks that were horrendously disproportionate and I didn't realize
looks at the sheet smh
That lapras looks interesting care to tell a few strong points of it?
lets hope i do well the next contest aswell 
Legit interested to learn that
you are lagging someone already told me lol
good design, good base, good exacution
Honestly, thought it could've been easier to know what bird it was cause Ho-oh's feathers there were the only non custom thing besides the colour.
Thanks and i that's a good point, I'll keep that more in mind next time 
I think if I didn’t go crazy in the dithering I would have gotten a higher score
i don't really think its a tone that isnt there with the way you're typing, but that's not really my point. its more the action itself that comes off as aggressive
Hm
Not if I don't see how the criticism applies? And if it actually DOES apply then it's their job to specify how or else I can't apply the criticism. It's like if someone drew a picture of a dog and I said "Their ears are too sharp" when they're wearing a hat that covers their ears, how are they supposed to use that criticism? If I specify "Oh, I meant the area NEAR the ears" then it can make sense.
??? What action
Like it mixes both froslass and lapras more natural?
i mean, you did admit they were counterarguments. you are frustrated, but i think the best way is to ask for clarification or say "i don't really think this applies, can you explain further?"
the background backleg or the foreground backleg? 
Background I think 
Fearow also has square-ish feathers sadly
I do recognize that wing as Hooh cause I worked on it, but from a random persons glance, could be any bird ahahaha
I think the tail and crest of Ho-oh is iconic if that helps :D
good shading 
Frontal right leg
On the background
the design was cute. but you had some odd grey spots at the top of the head. and having both bows face the same direction made it a tad boring
That's like, a really polite and thought-out way to do it, but this is kind of a fast chat I'm just gonna say "That doesn't apply" and if they disagree then they can explain how it applies
aaa wow I can't believe I won! :0
lots of great entries this contest! I was personally rooting for porygon-z/froslass and reshiram/froslass to place, but honestly there were a lot of excellent sprites all around
what are you even trying to hear with all of this lol
the purple is shared between both mons and the yellow looks like it came from froslass' eyes
i think something that's really important is stopping to think 😓
Like I can where it fits well
i don't actually see any ambipom colors in there
I mean, I guess I got about as much criticism as I'm going to, at this point I'm just explaining why I was offended when someone acted like I was beyond reason in terms of criticism
I love the bow on the winning Lapras so much ahaha, and that ice shell is mwah! The way the arms wrap around is so cute, and the use of patterns is lovely!
I really like it actually, There's a lot of neat design elements, tho the bow around the waist looks a bit odd to me. I think it might've been better if it was on the back or the other side ^^
the feet don't seem off to me 
I just explained that this is a fast chat tho. And I'm not like, super formal? Using informal language doesn't mean I'm being aggressive
is a ghost
On that glaceon frosslass, the right frontal background leg looks a bit broken, not sure if its because of angle or something
Probably right, not everyone analyzes sprites that much to remember
I envy your attention to detail, damn
Yeah I have to remember the wider audience too at times xD
well, the reply feature is there for a reason. seems like thorns is replying to relatively old messages anyways
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1146171639348863117 How's it look now? Is it still blurry anywhere? Including the spritework thread so any feedback can go there to avoid cluttering up the chat here ^^
Thank you! I love analyzing the small details in artwork that I know the artist put every bit of love into!
I am slow 👵
i tried originally to make the bows go in different directions, but finding space in the sprite to show it was too difficult 
For an example of the color thing, most pokemon sprites stick to less than 20, usually about 15.
we know grandpa
Congrats! The entry was amazing.
Feel alright where this gremlin got placed. Not super intricate but was fun to make.
this job is too much for you sometimes
(and there is thorns admitting they are, in fact, slow GDJHSDKLGJSKDFS)
RAH
your outline colour is lighter then your inner colour 
Were there any more small issues? My scores were very neutral heavy, could've just been from being basic though
thorns what are your pronouns
yours has a lot going on,
it's a lot easier for me if the messages are closer together, i'm impatient, and as I said being informal isn't being rude
Ahh thank you for the kind comment! ^^
check they're role tags
so joever
oop nvm
i guess thorns is one of the people i'm replying to? i didn't keep track of the names i just see the words and I reply
I see that and I appreciate you doing that! I hanged around quite a few of the participants, that flareon glalie for instance, I told them the angle connecting back and front torso looked a bit off so they could try to cover it with the mane
yeah it was in fact thorns
i mean honestly. even if chat is moving fast
its fine to take it slow yourself
if they dont reply you replying again wouldnt be rude lol
Honestly, none that I see really, the mouth could use outlines is about it!
i don't feel the need to take my time though, i'm not being rude by not speaking in a queenly matter
if you think i'm speaking in a queenly manner by being polite to strangers idk how to help you there
Huh the aurora on the back has quite an angle
hyperbole
Try using some form of tone indication! That helps a lot
I am! And I'm reading all the messages. So I'm very slow 
is it ho oh? I'd say it could use more parts from the bird fusion
Congrats to the top 3!
Good eye on that!
this might've come across as a little disillusioned myself but i'm a very frustrated person about The Internet™️ and how people interface with each other on it
this is looking much better!
Thank you a lot! I am always concerned whether my feedback Will help them or not
had to deal with the isaac community, that's why ...
make the bow on the tail at the top 
Should've used more yeah, tried to have the wings and idea of colours carry too hard but didn't work as well as I initially thought
Good concern to have when giving critique!
I was putting a baby in the pram is the same tension still happening
i know of tone indicators but i don't know one that is solving the issue here. do i like, /p? slash polite? after things? i didn't even consider that what i was saying could feel aggressive tbh i don't know what i've said that's like, aggressive
i've voiced aggressions in general like the fact that i didn't get any feedback before the contest but that's not like, aimed at anyone, that's just "uuuugh got unlucky, so annoyed about this" like i don't think it's rude to say that
I think making the ho oh head crest thing clearer would've helped a lot
Thank you! Yeah I want to see them end up satisfied with what they are doing
Interesting secret message in the contest announcement...
Yeah the crest of ho oh is quite a big part of it
/p usually means platonic so using that would be funny to consider a world where the counterargument is taken romantically
no but now that i know you were putting a baby somewhere "look at my head, boy" has become even funnier
it's missing a tail. you got a ton of staircasing on the outline for the aura on the wing. the aura in the background isn't composed very well
Gonna go!
loooooooooooooooooooooooool
ok mr manager
i love "look at my head, boy"
my final message
I think ye more Ho-oh stuff would've boosted it for me. I do adore the aurora wings and stuff though, that shit's sick as hell
Any other places that look off? Could it have done better if I submitted this version?
its one of the reasons why, regardless of people's genders, so long as they're comfortable with it i give them commands with "boy" stapled on the end
she/her, he/him, they/them 
AH i see
i shall call Thorns it
"I didn't use any of Ambipom's colours though. (Winks flirtaciously)"
My color palette is modest, no homo /j
im an any/all motherfucker in the sense that you can use any god damn pronouns on me and i'd sit there like nothing happened
im a he
waiting for the day someone uses like
exceedingly niche or stupid pronouns on me for a joke and i dont even think twice
that just makes me think of splash, or like, just how pokemon moves have no effect
you are immune to Pronoun type moves
LOL
The fourth Sprite is the growlithe no?
its more that im immune to gender type moves generally
Oh I guss I mean in general, can use /lh (light-hearted) pos (positive)
Or use emojis/emoticons like :D ^^ 
Or use words with a general positive tone if you're going for that, I tend to clarify my emtions by saying "I don't mean this in a rude way" "Genuinely speaking" and such
I used to have my pronouns in my server name but I needed to make room to stan my faves for the poll ^^
Haha, no worries! Gotta practice my sprites' vibes 
look at the capital letters
Hmmm
That IS how Genderless Pokemon work in Pokemon. I'm wondering if due to most Pokemon defaulting to Genderless if Infinite Fusion will make it so that infatuation works on any gender
The outline of the auras use two different colours each on top of one another, though only now I realize it blends together more than the other places I used those two colours.
nope, infatuation just doesn't work at all iirc
or. i might be thinking of cute charm/attract
bisexuality is banned in the world of fusion
Huh
yep
Wonder what that could mean
Oblivious
Oh damn, i almost lost to another sprite that used my base... phew lol
using /lh could've been good earlier maybe
the emoticons don't feel super applicable and might even seem smug like "I don't have ambipom colours ;)" or something if i use them wrong
the general positive tone is good but I was sorta rushing myself, especially during that time where like, 5 people were replying to me at once lol
Why does the announcement say to check 4th...
ESPEON RISE UP!
I woulda given you better score with this version 
do you mean before they say their pronouns?!?!?
4TH OF JULY AMERICA WINS AGAIN
Did they want to give like an honorable mention or something
I would give it a 5 for creativity 
Definitely depends on the context of the sentence/conversation!
And that's fair, this chat is very fast lol
bro it's not that deep, literally tee was just trying to find a way to type END ME
Now you lost me there
all genderless Pokemon are also aro/ace, except for some with ditto (unless there's a stork pokemon but in that case why does the stork pokemon only deliver to boy-girl comboes and ditto comboes
I originally submitted a Meowth/Glalie with a custom base, but another user submitted a great Meowth/Glalie already that used my base lol
No! 
ye!
Lol I see that!
mans is tired
I Just go curious about Sprite 4
no no wait.....
I read #event-announcements as End Me lol
Xee
Thats because it is lol
Ah xD
I think i know what this means
the great 4th way tie for 4th place
We're getting an armored magic girl
Secret new pokemon they made
wait hold oni have a joke here
How did I escape the 4th place pool? o_o
the tapus
By 1 point?
i didnt 
Charcadet DLC Evo?
LOL
Xee isn't super uncommon from what I can tell. That comes to mind as like, a fairly common neopronoun. Assuming I'm not just mixing it up with Xe. I don't know if those are different, I'm not very educated
My friend with the seaking deserves that spot, when I saw that one I knew it had somethint
remove the embed 
My pronouns are was/were because I'm dead inside 
slightly, i do think xee is rarer than xe
But u lost to 2 legless ones
DITHERING
Sometimes Legs can only carry you so far
D I T H E R I N G
!!!! what
Yeah, in that case I probably haven't heard of Xee
Now we are 3
... but the top 2 didn't have legs to carry them at all... 2nd place is practically immobile too lol
DITHERN!
DITHERiNG
You do not know Probopass movements do you?
DITHERiNG
I was joking on that
mystics
valor
isn't their moustache a million tiny centipede legs?
Thank you Mystics!
He has invisible legs that he uses to walk duh
I can't get over that Lapras sprite, the ice shell looks SO GOOD
(that's why he is 4x weak to Earthquake)
here we go bow on top
To think I made my Frosrade too big again LOL
smol
here we go beeg boy now
NOT THICC BIG ENOUGH
I SHRUNK IT
yis! 
I SHRUNK IT
@young plover your sprite has a lot of added colors that make it look kinda cluttered visually- froslass' color scheme is first, followed by what I could pull from your sprite. :)
Ok now no one better ping me im going to sleep now 
GET PINGED
Blocked!
the SFX got you out of the 4th place pit smh 
also have a good sleep 
ty 
signal beam wasn't very effective
Clearly SFX meta is back 
Made a few more adjustments. LMK if I should stop posting here tho ^^;
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1146171639348863117 Oh and here's the link if anyone has any feedback ^^;
Oh, could I ask if people understood the ribbon pattern?
If only I were given some of the tips from here I got today, I could've made my sprite even better
oh thx lemme see
there's the 5 colours for the mountain (those don't seem like they'd have an effect since they're all in one place away from the other colours)
a couple of colours for the eyebrows (if they matched the ice they'd blend in too much, MAYBE the mountain's colours could've worked but I don't think that helps with cluttering)
there's like, 2 or 3 colours for the clothing. that maybe could've been a different colour but I'm not sure which.
there's another shade of yellow since froslass's eyes don't have an outline colour but that colour was used for part of the tail hands,
and a few shades of brown that were originally red matching the scarf but to make it read better as wood I changed it when I saw I still had some leftover colours
Soooo mainly the clothing should've been changed from what I see. Is that evaluation good?
Same ^^; I feel like to win a contest I just need to get more feedback beforehand. Though now that the feedback giver roles have been reset maybe I'll do better next time!
the mountain wasn't really needed imo, but you could have reused some other colors in their place. you don't necessarily need to shade with the same color, the games themselves often reuse colors for shading/lineart
Wait... that's weird, where's the Ninetales/Froslass entry? I was sure that one was going to score high
Guys I tied for 132nd I'm literally him
Here i was, thinking i'd nailed the consistent reception my sableye sprite found and then suddenly i see it... the 1 😆
Fuck itttt, fine I'll rejoin
which one there are 3
Any advice on how to improve my contest entry?
mountain's mostly just there for reference (i was gonna make it a more froslass-specific reference but best I could find for that was Mt. Coronet which seems like it would make things REALLY cluttered and isn't really the "Froslass" mountain imo) but it isn't really in the bulk of the content so I don't really see it adding clutter. Just sort of a "Huh, weird, but neat" moment
Actually, I already did re-use colours for shading, purple shading/outline uses the darkest ice colour. Where else could I have reasonably done that?
I don't when's the next time I'll try a contest, though for trying it out my first time, this did leave me feeling weird but relieved compared to making sprites any other time. I get help even in other things I make for fun, but this here was something I had no idea how it'd go. Probably spent too much time trying to "perfect" my sprite that it left me feeling a little burned out. I was working on just one thing for hours straight.
Idk why it cut off the other few votes lol
Better ice outlining?
Oh... nvm, the person submitted a different sprite, they submitted their Froslass/Suicune instead of their Ninetales/Froslass
Also very long duration of Mario Kart music I played on loop while I was spriting.
id say for your sprite, there's a lot going on with the sprite that makes it a bit messy and confusing. For example, the flower petal like stuff around the head and the skis(?) its holding
That's what immediatly jumps out to me is the outlining on the ice
Personally i like their Ninetales one better
I see
Is it all supposed to be blue without black?
ORANGE. ORANGE, ORANGE,
What is the reference? 🙂
Quite the contrary, more black.
you definitely could've used froslass' colors for that, it just had to be blue not green
Your top ice for example has 0 blackoutline
Oh
I think the Ninetales/Froslass was their peak
Idk about all their sprites, but i do think their Ninetales/Froslass is much better than their Froslass/Suicune
This feels more like #1050404143807873157 territory, but since it's also right after the contest...I'd say this is fine
Alrighty, I’ll work on it! 👍
I love it ||I was Tee 5
||
The ice shards are supposed to represent a hoodie tbh, and they're holding a staff/stick. Those two things ARE related to the reference? The ice I could maybe see being cluttered but the stick is just filling empty space since otherwise that hand tail had nothing to do (I forgot the staff since it's not in the main art for them just their in-game model and originally just had them doing the same thing as the hand above)
See? I mean it exhudes unique all around it
Besides, we don't really have a channel dedicated to just sprite discussion....which honestly sucks 
Exposed, i shall find what score u gave me, and hunt u down
Lmao
if you think for like 2 seconds which one i was would be super obvious
The Snowstorm upgrade from BTD6, mostly the game's art but the staff is from the in-game model with a slight visual adjustment to suit Froslass's motif on their like, sleeve hair arms
That's not a bad idea. It's funny because Spriter General depsite the name is like, the opposite of that
Exactly
LOL
TRUE
As a spriter, I almost never look at spriter general
It's really hard to discuss anything about spriting or just general WIP talk in practice
ah ok it was reference stuff. references are hard to get the balance right with
It's a channel for spriters to NOT talk about sprites
And if u try, muted
Sure on paper, you post a WIP in #1050404143807873157 and you talk on it, but that goes into problems with the feedback process on how it is still hard to get consistent feedback, even with the /feedbackpls command around
The contest results happened when I was asleep again 
Anyway congrats to the winners, great sprites all around 
Wait I just saw this
That was a mistake?
I thought I made mine too small LOL
Yeah, love me a good reference
Besides, sometimes you really do just want to show off a basic WIP or just talk about some cool lil' tips and tricks
it's basically just like vip general
yall how the fuck do i get rid of that embed on the gallery post its driving me nuts
I'm putting this in suggestions rn
Is spriter general the cooler general or worse?
Def cooler
Maybe I should look by in it then
wrap the link in these <>
references imo are kinda like triple fusions, gotta make it look like both the mons and also the reference lol. A lot of the times, one of the three gets left out
THANK YOU
There's definitely a challenge to it, but also triple fusions are cool so this only supports my drive
Would you say one of the three got left out in mine? I feel like they all play a role
I mean you could see all of them in yours but the components just didnt mesh together that well
