event-general

[lusty crystal]

no results when

[wraith notch]

When the universe ends.

[young plover]

guuuuys stop asking

ask instead when the results of snorunt glalie froslass happen ;)

[wraith notch]

I suspect that that’s when the universe after us eventually dies.

[bleak crypt]

Is a fusion we designed prior to the contest okay, if we never sprited it? I’ll probably make it anyway but wanted to know if it was eligible

[toxic jolt]

Man, I was thinking to do Froslass/Gardevoir but it seems that at least 100 people have thought like me. So let’s see what I do at the end.

[silver solar]

I know I’m gonna do something cute, and froslass because i love the ribbon. Otherwise idk

[graceful plank]

I made a bunch of snorunts today so I already can't decide which one to enter

[undone crag]

Current plans are to make a fusion each for Snorunt, Glalie, and Froslass then see which one turned out best and that'll be my submission. I think the Froslass one is almost ready.

[silver solar]

I just love froslass aesthetics

[granite dawn]

finally, a contest where I participate early

[glad sail]

mood. i made a snorunt fusion already and am working on froslass myself

[crisp cargo]

i'm actually entering a contest this time i had an early flareon idea so i'm doing that

[robust dagger]

The Flawless Being

[supple mulch]

Hi, to partecipate to a contest I necessarily have to post the sprite in #1050404143807873157 with saying [contest entry]?

[cold horizon]

well no

[granite dawn]

Not really needed but it's good to know

[cold horizon]

it does not hurt to post your sprite in #1050404143807873157 1st tho

[granite dawn]

You know, it's giving intel to the enemy

[cold horizon]

cuz you can get some advice on what you could improve

[granite dawn]

But yeah I highly recommend posting the sprite on spritework first to get feedback on errors you didn't see at first

[arctic garnet]

My tyrantrum/espeon entry only looks as good as it does BECAUSE I posted it in Spritework. Improved it so much

[supple mulch]

Well thanks. Also I can say [contest entry] for multiple sprites for the same contest? I want to make multiple candidates before deciding what I will submit.

[arctic garnet]

You can make as many as you want, just submit only one

[cold horizon]

you dont even have to add (contest entry) in the post

[austere nimbus]

where do you see what place you got?

[supple mulch]

Perfect, thanks for all info.

[robust dagger]

go into this link over in #event-announcements and scroll down until you see your sprite

[austere nimbus]

ah those are for scolopede line, wheres the one for tyrunt line?

[arctic garnet]

Voting not finished

[austere nimbus]

maen

i dont expect to place high but im ever curious

[lunar comet]

if the last two contests were anything to go by, it should be soon. both the sableye and scolipede results were published 2 days after voting finished

👀

[austere nimbus]

👀

[hazy chasm]

👀

[arctic garnet]

👀

[wraith notch]

👀

[torn dawn]

👀

[lusty crystal]

[arctic garnet]

Sorry to interrupt the chain but how the hell did you flip that?

[undone crag]

👀

[little siren]

[misty acorn]

You can thank me from like 2 years ago lmao

[torn dawn]

[arctic garnet]

Lol thanks, I was 👀 and couldn't find it lol

[hazy chasm]

[limpid sphinx]

⏰

[near horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-omg-bored-waiting-so-done-gif-10154741

[rugged badge]

👁️ 👁️

[cloud solstice]

I hope the results don't comes out when I'm sleeping

[near horizon]

Seeking of :

Good night, day or wathever depending on your time zone!

[cloud solstice]

good night

[slow gyro]

Lmao just to let you know yesterday Mael said the results might get slightly delayed

[plush vale]

well now that chromas asleep they better hurry before they miss their window 😛

[fast bough]

I'm Spanish. Surely the results are coming out when I'm sleeping

[plush vale]

oh no chroma's back, scatter

[fast bough]

Poor chromas

[cloud solstice]

why?

[plush vale]

||surprise party||

[rough talon]

they said the results are gonna be late

[loud shell]

to enter a sprite into the contest, do I just have to upload it to #sprite-gallery or is there something else I need to do?

[little siren]

You need to upload IT to disk

You can find it in Sprite contest

[gusty frost]

the snorunt started and the tyrunt one didnt even ended

[crisp cargo]

let's go two results at once

[silver solar]

Ok i think i have an idea

[little siren]

Good night everybody, i Hope results are gonna be in next 9h

[molten crater]

or else

[hard grove]

Back from trip. No winners yet?

[plush vale]

nurp but next mon revealed

[hard grove]

I saw

Good adds

But only just now

And as I predicted they were announced minutes after I left.

[shut cipher]

bro idk if i shud enter this contest, everyone's already going crazy

[heady moat]

Join it! If nothing else, it's good practice

[shut cipher]

true i suppose

i just feel like i have no idea what to do lol

[calm stone]

I hope my entry does well in this contest.

[little siren]

Ohhhh its still not here

[slow gyro]

I had an idea for a super cool sprite and I would love to make it for a contest, but I’ll have to wait for a really specific contest

[misty acorn]

👀

[slow gyro]

The idea is a ||Joltick/Arceus|| and it’ll ||be sprite with the biggest amount of sfx ever, specially compared to the Mon, it’ll literally be a whole universe using almost all the canvas, with s singular yellow dot in the center, that’s the Pokémon||

Smol

[primal cloud]

don't let your memes be dreams

[cloud solstice]

sfx ban Speedrun

[young plover]

does sfx mean something other than sound effects?

[fast bough]

Special effects

[young plover]

oh, hmmm

[fast bough]

Like:

[young plover]

yeah i looked into that in guidelines and all i was introduced to was the fact that they allowed jynx unown to just take elements of chatot's design smh

anyway, what's wrong with having a lot of those

[fast bough]

In a contest fusion with sfx usually to get more votes

[crisp cargo]

overly simplified explanation is depending on the design it can look jarring to quite a few more experienced spriters but most people (who aren't experienced spriters) won't care and will typically vote on it

[fast bough]

Because oh cool effects, pretty

but in an admin contest is usually the contrary

[misty acorn]

I don't know yet if I wanna do a Glalie or a Froslass

[fast bough]

I dont have any idea neither

[young plover]

so basically there can be a bad version of the sprites you gave and they'll be carried by the fact that they'll have special effects or something?

[misty acorn]

yeah no

sfx can't hide that your sprite is bad

unless people vote by just glancing at them and not noticing how bad it is (which does probably happen, not gonna deny that)

[misty acorn]

but its not like sfx is a cheat to victory lol

neither were animations btw

👀

[young plover]

hmm

[crisp cargo]

tbf i find animations more palatable since you at least need way more effort to make them

[young plover]

is it when the effects don't suit the style?

[crisp cargo]

sfx is typically good to just get you past the first round or two of voting

[fast bough]

Usually official pokemon sprites don't have sfx

so

[young plover]

going off of spriting guidelines even fire counts as sfx, pokemon definitely has fire in sprites
so is it just like, certain sfx that don't suit the style or something?

[fast bough]

well Fire counts as sfx if the original pokemon design has no fire, I think. Like a moltres fusion has to have fire, but a Arcanine one should not

Idk I saying this from my perspective, experience and ideas

[cloud solstice]

what count as sfx is debatable but a good rule of thumb is if it isn't on the original sprites of the pokemons fused, it's probably sfx

[young plover]

interesting

[fast bough]

[cloud solstice]

there are some grey area like pokemons who have effects in specifics forms like primals, megas, overdrive... idk about those

[dense jackal]

Or going over the top with a feature can be unnecessary sfx as well. Charmander has fire on her tail, so if you use it as a head fusion, you probably give a fire tail. But if you set the whole body on fire then you're in sfx land

[dense jackal]

What's an overdrive...?

[cloud solstice]

it's reshiram and zekrom, in battle their tails light up and they have some effects

[young plover]

i was just thinking that i won't be using sfx any time soon anyway but actually a minor element of it IS in my plan for the next contest
but that's because it's a reference to an image that has sfx
i like references

[crisp cargo]

i dunno if my glalie/flareon would count as having sfx since the melting armor was part of its body it's also such a small part of it it's not really covering up the problems it has

[young plover]

according to guidelines melting wouldn't be an sfx

[cloud solstice]

it's not shiny so it's fine

[crisp cargo]

well, upload complete

i already feel way out of my league but hey it's w/e

[granite dawn]

I heard about SFX bans

Would it even be an infinite fusion contest without SFX?

be for real

[hollow sky]

yes, just less meta abuse basically

but these looks cool anyways

[stray condor]

hero not again please

no one would even notice the ||yellow dot||

[main hare]

play monster hunter, or design a contest entry...

[slender thunder]

When is the dino results?

[tidal goblet]

Yeah use at least ||two yellow dots||

[late sequoia]

By asking its been moved to next year

[main hare]

every time we ask, another week gets added

[lusty crystal]

When will we not be getting dino results?

If we ask the negetive it will come a week earlier

So we should start asking that instead

[plucky arch]

right now

[cloud solstice]

it's so nice to not have the results

[half rapids]

anyone else really struggling to come up with ideas for the snorunt line contest

[plucky arch]

why are there pogs, you wont be getting the results rn

[versed ridge]

They dont want results

[cloud solstice]

it's harder to do than dino

[versed ridge]

I just got back to discord I didn't even notice the new mon till today

[foggy spruce]

i have a strong preference for the sprite to be about the same size as the body pokemon. there has been a trend for every sprite to take the whole canvas, and what that does is make the big guys looks smaller

[cloud solstice]

the kaiju effect?

[foggy spruce]

glalie should help get this out of the system, right? people get to make big ol heads?

[cloud solstice]

froslass looks more popular tho

[foggy spruce]

the contest entries are surprising mixed. i though for sure that froslas would dominate, but it is only slightly more than glalie.

[gleaming sand]

Welcome back :)

[foggy spruce]

is interesting though, what have we noticed between the dev's taste for this contest and the user-voted contests?

[cloud solstice]

well legendaries and starters are popular for users (don't point at me )
the starters won by a landslide apparently

[lusty crystal]

For me it's the opposite

I have quite a few ideas but I dont know which ones to make and which one to submit

[foggy spruce]

try cloyster, he already has a black orb for a head

[molten crater]

I had at first because snorunt is just a cape, glalie doesn't have many colors going on for it and froslass is very intricate with the hands coming from the hair. But then it ocurred to me that glalie + big pokemon could work well because the snow should work decently on a big surface, and so I made wailord. I'm surprised I haven't seen a Glalie/Rhyperior yet

or a Houndoom/Glalie cacodemon

[rugged badge]

pspspsps Is submitting an entry including an alt allowed? Or just one?

Well I guess it does say one entry sooooo

[summer nebula]

it's probably because bigger sprites mean you can cram in more detail, it's very difficult to do incredibly intricate sprites otherwise

and more detailed sprites tend to do better in contests that go to public votes (they do slightly worse in staff votes, but still do very well)

[mortal storm]

make them all and submit the one that you like the most at the end

[foggy spruce]

i actually like the challenge and art of trying to make a smaller sprite. it makes every pixel really count. i do think you are right, though. Voters really like the big boys

[crisp cargo]

me making the head about as big as the body pokemon's normal head: haha yeah

[summer nebula]

Yeah, I appreciate people that are able to make small sprites look amazing.
It's just that bigger sprites allow you to put even more detail on, and that tends to really wow people. A detailed sprite that sticks to the body's size (especially if the body is a really small mon like Caterpie or Ralts) will tend struggle against some similarly detailed kaiju sprite that takes up the entire 96x96 canvas.
||i'd also say that there's probably a greater-than-zero chance that a large chunk of the voters don't even open the full-size image of the sprites they're voting for, which especially hurts smaller sprites||

[rugged badge]

😔 true. People who can make small sprites look hella polished are the real MVPs

[cloud solstice]

regular contests are worse bc you have multiple sprites on the same picture so obvsly the smaller sprites don't attract attention as much as big one

[summer nebula]

exactly, that's what I mean, which is probably why smaller sprites tend to get wiped out during the prelims

[limpid sphinx]

👁️

[gusty frost]

Yeah

[arctic garnet]

[late sequoia]

I'm kinda surprised to not see many Snorunt heads being used. I know its somewhat simple in color but the head can be super expressive with the big mouth and small eyes.

[slow gyro]

I just woke up

[slow gyro]

And I’m glad ya all loved my revolutionary idea

[fringe mica]

and

totally not plugging my gallery profile

(invented a new term)

[fringe mica]

needs to have an outline too just cause

[slow gyro]

I think you’re right, two pixels then it’ll be

Lmao there should be a team SXF when we try to give SXF to every fusion

[rough talon]

im going to be snorunts strongest soldier and try to make the best fusion possible

[fringe mica]

special stceffe?

sxf

[plush vale]

a sprite on par with minecrafts would be fireflies

[fast bough]

Mojang: wE caNt aDd fiREfliEs iS toXic fOR thE froG.
Frog: *eats an entire magma monster at 1,400 °C *
Frog: bin chilling

[hazy chasm]

LOl

[rough talon]

its so funny they just

couldnt think to kill the frogs when they ate the fireflies

[plush vale]

they coulda also just kept firefies and had em do nothin for now

[crude cedar]

what is the genesect fused with?

[plush vale]

chandelure

[shut cipher]

are contest entries allowed if they are references?

[misty acorn]

yes

[shut cipher]

aight

[rough talon]

as long as your references incorporate both aspects of the pokemon in a readable way, references are entirely allowed.

[shut cipher]

hm ok

[cloud solstice]

you can do a straight up reference without the pokemons readable for the contest, but it probably won't score very high

[shut cipher]

lol

[thick shadow]

Nice, contest entry done

[hard grove]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-gif-23395435

Waiting for the Tyran contest winners to be announced.

[thick shadow]

Good luck to everyone!

[willow adder]

Even if im not a spriter yet, can i participate on the contest?

[thick shadow]

I wouldn't recommend it, i don't think

[verbal lance]

yes anyone can enter

[tepid gyro]

i entered the last one

[willow adder]

Ohhh okay

Ill post my fusion then :)

[thorny saddle]

i forgot how hard it is trying to shade ice

but HM i cant settle on a decent fusion idea

[thick shadow]

I'm not super creative, so i went with one of the new mons.

[thorny saddle]

eh to be fair sableye, scoli line, and tyrantrum line are all solid options for fusions with glalie and froslass

[thick shadow]

Fair enough, overall pretty good artistic picks.

[lusty crystal]

For me I have:

• Slowbro/Snorunt
• Snorunt/Magcargo
• Paras/Glalie
• Honedge/Froslass
• Froslass/Torterra
  and will also be doing Glalie/Whimsicot tomorrow, which after that I'll do some votes in #is-my-sprite-ready to decide which one to enter to the contest

[mortal storm]

I mean ... isn't bad having more fusions with the new ones in the game asap... so

[rugged anvil]

why do i have the contest participant thing

[cunning zinc]

Have you participated in a contest before?

[broken robin]

Its self assigned, gives you voting alerts as well

[cunning zinc]

Oh yea

Forgor

[slow gyro]

Contest results when?

[molten crater]

when results for the next one are available so the winner sprite stays as the banner for 5 seconds

[hard grove]

https://tenor.com/view/bean-mr-middle-finger-gif-25557078

[fast bough]

https://tenor.com/view/caveira-skeleton-ive-been-waiting-gif-13523984

[hard grove]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-kiss-gif-23715848

[rapid knot]

https://tenor.com/view/please-hmm-pout-sad-pikachu-gif-16024615

[lunar comet]

Who tf is child boiler and what is a goon

[errant yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-incrives-meme-meme-react-gif-25029710

[shut cipher]

I have a contest entry but not sure to enter the one with sfx or without

(( i heard your score is higher for less sfx))

[wind matrix]

We were a little late getting the voting sheet setup this time around, so results might be a bit later then usual 😅

[lunar comet]

Generally yes

[shut cipher]

ok good to know

[lunar comet]

For staff judged contests they're not only looking for quality, but a good match to the gen 5 artstyle

[wind matrix]

honestly, you'd probably be better without the sfx. that said, the winner of the sableye contest did have sfx

[hard grove]

ha ha hahaha

funny.

[shut cipher]

okay i will make sure to NOT enter the one with sfx lol

[wind matrix]

i mean, the sprite managers care about that, but the mods don't

[shut cipher]

so it does or doesnt have to match gen 5 style 🤔

[plucky arch]

the sheer variety of staff means there is no real catchall

[shut cipher]

oh alright

[tepid reef]

I think it doesn't matter that much tbh

Or like

At all

[shut cipher]

so i guess.... just make it look cool is what im getting

[tepid reef]

Yup

[wind matrix]

There's definitly more of a focus on sprite quality then public judging though. And sfx isn't a a good crutch. It's better as a compliment to the sprite

[tepid reef]

Most highly rated sprites would fit better in gen III or IV tbh

[hard grove]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-and-patrick-mocking-gif-15126573

[tepid reef]

Gen V sprites are made to be animated, so their poses aren'y anything crazy

Same with the colour count

It's usually just 2 shades and and outline shade per colour

[shut cipher]

i wasnt planning on using sfx for that but will keep it in mind

[wind matrix]

you can look at the past scores and try to figure out a pattern

[tepid reef]

But you'd be better out taking at least 3

[plush vale]

dude only staff judge contests were sfx low the other 6 you linked wer ecommunity voted in those sfx are a boon

[shut cipher]

okay so, just make your sprite cool but also look like it could be animated? thats a better line to follow

[wind matrix]

usually it's 3 shades tho

[tepid reef]

Including the selective outline

[wind matrix]

not sure what you're showing with this. only one was a staff judged winner

[shut cipher]

i need to see glalie animated then

[tepid reef]

No, just give it a fitting/cool pose

'Cause that simply looks better

[shut cipher]

alright

[wind matrix]

a unique pose does help

[shut cipher]

https://www.pokencyclopedia.info/sprites/gen5/ani_black-white/ani_bw_362.gif also semi related but they did glalie dirty with this anim

[tepid reef]

Nice :d

[silver solar]

Which is what makes scratch sprites more likely to do wel

[wind matrix]

yis

the smoggen sprites are really boring pose-wise

[lunar comet]

How old are some of these holy shit

You know only the sableye, scolipede, and tyrunt contests have been staff judged right

[silver solar]

I like to splice but i do pick from as many official sprites as i can

[tepid reef]

If you mean the sprites made for pokes gen V+

Then I think it's because they're made of official artwork

When it wasn't really meant for that

So it's just off, compared to the rest

Could feel that recently working with Tyrantrum tbh

[wind matrix]

looks at the difference in pose here. they got worse with time. even with the offical sprites 😂

[tepid reef]

That's like Gen IV and Gen V?

[lunar comet]

Which one is which there

[wind matrix]

3 and 5

[tepid reef]

I already explained that the pose is boring because it needs to be animated

[wind matrix]

animation ruined good sprites man

[tepid reef]

It doesn't need to imply movement or anything, because... well it moves

[lunar comet]

Honestly I like the gen 5 one better in that case

[shut cipher]

yeah but also consider this sprite from gen 4

not that related i just always hated it

[tepid reef]

Yeah, honestly I like gen V sprites better too, but like

[lunar comet]

The eye looks weird and the head angle isn't great

[tepid reef]

In game and animated

As they were made to be

In any other instance, Gen III style kind of slays

And I didn't work with Gen IV style enough to actually analyze it so :P

[shut cipher]

pose versus animated https://www.pokencyclopedia.info/sprites/gen5/ani_black-white/ani_bw_025_f.gif

[young plover]

did pikachu's ears just flash?

[tepid reef]

Yeah, animations also show of the personality of a pokemon nicely, so the basic default poses really aren't bad in the context

[plush vale]

meanwhile now we get non dynamic poses with barely any idles

[shut cipher]

just the cheeks i think

[shut cipher]

we dont talk about 3d

[plush vale]

it's not inherent to 3d though, look at battle revolution and co

[shut cipher]

well i more so meant gen 6+

but yeah true

[young plover]

oh, wait, why does that pikachu sprite turn transparent in places during parts of the animation

[shut cipher]

those games also proved there was no reason to desaturate their sprites

[shut cipher]

wdym

[young plover]

parts of the colour don't work

[plush vale]

do you mean this one which isn't a sprite?

[young plover]

no i was talking about the gen 5 animated sprite

[gloomy inlet]

Right after the cheeks flash, there is a slight color alternation in the black part of the ears and the brown part of the tail, are you refering to that?

[odd garnet]

Should I do a funny cozy Snorunt/Roserade?
A Tough armored Glalie/Roserade?
Or an elegant and beautiful Frosslass/Roserade?

[plush vale]

feel last might do best

[shut cipher]

yeah last

[silver solar]

Tbh the saturation on ds was likely a holdover from gen 3

Gba had no backlight so they had to up saturation on gba games

[young plover]

that's it. when it's on the background of discord it turns transparent for some reason.

[plush vale]

feel like there were mons designed with it in mind though after fact though

[rough talon]

whew not as many people are submitting this contest

[graceful plank]

I keep forgetting I need to submit. should try to decide on which of my fusions will do better

[cunning zinc]

My fusion is not too well so I'm not going to be placing very high I think

[graceful plank]

there are always a bunch of really good submissions early that I see and go 'yeah I'm not beating that'

[plush vale]

don't need to win for it to be good chance to get practice and feedback

[young plover]

^

[graceful plank]

true. I placed poorly last contest and I don't think I'll do better than that this time

[young plover]

progress is largely gradual, just keep at it :)

[young plover]

oh also that means that everyone gets individual placements, that's good i was hoping that'd be the case :) i get to be graded! in a way!

[signal reef]

Sprites peaked at HG/SS 😎 (change my mind)

[cloud solstice]

Gen 5 animations tho?

If we get the results for both the tyrantrum and the snorunt contest at the same time wich winner become the discord icon?

[dusk schooner]

Don't think that's happening

[silk bolt]

i finished my sprite too late, but good luck everyone for the snorunt contest

[young plover]

you mean your tyrunt/tyrantrum sprite?

[plucky canyon]

how do i make it a png for the contest?

[silk bolt]

yes, i finish it yesterday

[silk bolt]

export it as a png, that's all (:

what software are you using

[plucky canyon]

painy

paint*

[silk bolt]

paint.net ?

[plucky canyon]

microsoft paint

[silk bolt]

i think you have an "export" option, try using it and choose PNG

[plucky canyon]

i try to save it as a png and it doesnt work

[young plover]

maybe you can save it in a different file format, put it in a different image editing software, remove the background, and save THAT as a png?

[plucky canyon]

i might try that in a second after i try paint 3d

[young plover]

paint 3d could very well be more functional yeah

[silk bolt]

don't save, export

[plucky canyon]

ok i'll find export thanks

[plucky canyon]

i couldnt find it 😦 but i used something else to remove the background

[silk bolt]

i mean, paint isn't really that used you can try paint.net or piskel at the beginning

[plucky canyon]

ok i might try that if i make something again

[surreal folio]

When is the snorunt contest submissions closing?

Just gotta see if I should allocate more time to finish.my sprite

[misty acorn]

#event-announcements timer

[wraith notch]

Piskel

[silk bolt]

it was a question to unidragon

[blissful kindle]

I'm using Discord right now thanks for asking

[silk bolt]

[granite dawn]

People are already doing SFX, oh no, I'm doomed

[dawn arch]

Am I the only one who doesn't think snorunt can make it to top 3? Glalie and Froslass are gonna kick its ass, maybe only one of them both

like only one of them 2 is the top 3 positions yk

just 0 trust in the pointy triangle boi

🤷‍♂️

[molten crater]

triangle boy has potential tbh

top 3 is hard, but I believe in top 7

[lusty crystal]

Tbh I think glalie is the worst one it's just ball with hole

[modern kernel]

if u pick something with a lot of horns as the body and snorunt as the head that could be pretty awesome

[cloud solstice]

You can do cool rock and ice pattern with it as head tho

[molten crater]

glalie isn't the worst, people just have a hard time using it

[modern kernel]

snorunt is definitely the worst but i think theres top 3 potential

[dense jackal]

Snorunt is a lil guy in a jacket. The potential is so good!

[fossil lava]

On the other hand, Voltorb, literally just a ball, is the only pokemon in the game to have all possible fusions head and body with a custom sprite

So even if it doesn't place high, there might be a lot of Glalies

[midnight ice]

I have a good Snorunt fusion ready but I'm gonna make a Froslass fusion first before I decide on a submission

[undone crag]

Fine plan: I made one for all three before deciding which one to use. Ended up being my first one anyways but that’s fine haha.

[carmine tusk]

Snorunt and Glalie both have a lot of potential as heads I think

[carmine tusk]

I was planning to make a few and choosing my best as well but that plan has gone away since I got Baldur's gate 3
Now I'll just make one and submit that

[midnight ice]

I also made a Glalie fusion but that one was purely for meme material

[little siren]

are results gonna be before end of snorunt contest?

[subtle moss]

constantly asking about it will not make it show up faster

I feel like the contest people aren't real happy about it

[lunar comet]

If we don't constantly pester people about it how are they supposed to know we want it to happen /s

[errant yarrow]

I would add 1 day every time someone asks about it

[lusty crystal]

Propbably, you just gotta be patient

[gusty frost]

why its taking so long how many staffs are there

[fluid trout]

Where are the results for the tyrantrum competition?

[lusty crystal]

Well you have to realise that there are a lot of submissions, so they're bound to take a while to do the votes

[lunar comet]

Enough to summon Captain Planet 1.66 times

[lunar comet]

They're in the mail, unfortunately the staff shipped them via FedEx to save on costs so it'll take awhile

[gusty kestrel]

[tough apex]

It's hard to ship a dinosaur

[rough talon]

well yeah, we dont really know the marital status of dinosaurs

[random crypt]

everytime someone asks for the results they're secretly delaying it a day

[crisp cargo]

where aren't the results

[random crypt]

everyone's a winner!

imagine if they knocked a point off everytime someone asked for the results

[molten crater]

so... when's the result?

[steel vortex]

Ooo I'm so excited, did something daring this time! Just gonna polish it before submitting

[plush vale]

why are the results

[random crypt]

everyone asks when

but not who

[near horizon]

i know one thing for sure : ||there's a lot of dino|| !

[young mica]

do you have to have a role as spriter to compete?

[dawn arch]

nope

[near horizon]

if not said that you must have then you don't have to

hope that it's clear what i'm saying

[arctic garnet]

Contests open to all, but only spriters can post it to the gallery for the game

[primal iron]

I feel like I have 0 inspiration this time around

[rough talon]

fair honestly

my idea was super specific and might've been the obvious choice but

that's part of the problem honestly

[wind matrix]

Not done with voting yet, but there's a tie for first, and a three-way tie for second

[olive ledge]

Dang, good luck on voting!

[wind matrix]

So we might have to have a second vote, so it might take even longer

[late sequoia]

So be it, but thanks for the update

[steel vortex]

Oh wow that close

Take your time!

[wind matrix]

you guys are too good

[lusty crystal]

Question do I have over 6.9 points?

[wind matrix]

I have no idea which one is yours lol

[lusty crystal]

It is the jurrasic park torterra

[molten crater]

you mean a three-way tie for... third?

[plush vale]

isn't that a three way tie for third then?

oh pointed out yeah

[wind matrix]

There's an echo in here

[late sequoia]

Hey don't you mean..

[plush vale]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-angry-pissed-shout-scream-gif-16674427

[near horizon]

Suggestion : if tie for podium, just roll a dice with the number of tie members and let the rng decide x)

[olive ledge]

Suggestion: Give up on voting and let nobody win instead

[near horizon]

Or everyone win

[wind matrix]

Better idea. We'll just have them fight to the death

[steel vortex]

Yay!

[verbal lance]

🗡️

[near horizon]

yes i grab popcorn because there's no way i'm in the top 30 xD

[elder marlin]

Even better idea, kill EVERY spriter who participated and whoever you forgot to kill wins

[lusty crystal]

I mean if I'm in it I have basically every dinosaur to my disposal since my pokemon has the Jurassic Park on it's back

[main hare]

do a minecraft deathmatch with all ties

[cloud pulsar]

wait i only have 2 days to do my entry

shit

[wind matrix]

The sprites aren't fighting. We're giving every spriter a knife and putting them in a pit

[lusty crystal]

Dammit no use relying on my pokemon then

[main hare]

im gonna put exodia in my pocket then

[plush vale]

who said you got pockets

[molten crater]

I was gonna suggest to let the mons battle in-game to decide the winner, but I remembered I made a Caterpie

[main hare]

you gonna go naked to a knife fight? ew

[plush vale]

or just womens clothing

[half rapids]

just happy to get an update about the contest. No worries and take ur time :)

[wind matrix]

We get pockets sometimes. They're just smol

[verbal lance]

Mine was rayquaza so i wouldn't mind

[silver solar]

Good luck figuring out the winner

[near horizon]

I made a flying t rex (Tyrantrum Flygon), idk if it's good to unleash this x)

[silver solar]

Hopefully the results are out before this mini contesr is over 😅

[half rapids]

Yeah do the staff have a procedure if that happens? lmao

[plush vale]

they go neener neener

[wind matrix]

we have a second judging to break the tie lol

[olive ledge]

If the second judging is inconclusive, then they begin the knife plan

[plush vale]

thought they mean for if older contests takes longer to judge than sooner one

but remember as this is a tyrantrum contest during the knife fight everyody will have tiny arms

[wind matrix]

I can't understand this scentence for some reason @.@

[cloud solstice]

not if it's the head

[plush vale]

then they must hold the knife in their mouth

[half rapids]

if the contest going on right now ends before we get the results of the tyrunt contest, what happens with the contest winner role and the server icon lol

it probably wont happen but yknow :P

[plush vale]

oh yeah forgot this meant shorter time with tyrantrum server icon

[wind matrix]

That's up to the contest managers to figure out

[half rapids]

lmao fair enough

[lusty crystal]

If they took a while with this one they'll probably take a while the next one

[cloud solstice]

they disappear, gone forever

[wind matrix]

Hoping we'll get the results out by the end of the day. If not, then tomorrow at the latest

[half rapids]

oh nice! Thx

[cloud solstice]

so in 30 minutes?

[wind matrix]

it's only 2:30pm

[plush vale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bdHBoG2bLY&ab_channel=Noirtrice sound warning

[cloud solstice]

it's 11:28 pm for me

[silver solar]

I should really start working on my contest entry

[lusty crystal]

Ok so chances are I'll be asleep due to timezones

[wind matrix]

your time is off

[wind matrix]

probably

[lapis dust]

Yay. Thanks for keeping us in the loop on this.

[silver solar]

I wanna get an entry in for the number score, not the potential of winning (thats much less likely for a splicer)

[plush vale]

staying in theme, she makes a dinosaur noise

[rough talon]

im gonna start crying. not because the contest is postponed but because now i'll have to see even MORE "contest results when?"

[wind matrix]

just avoid the chat

[rough talon]

GSUFHSUDHSUHFG

fair enough.

skill issue on my part smh

[wind matrix]

[steel vortex]

If someone asks contest when, ban them from #event-announcements /j

[rough talon]

Contest Wh-

[plush vale]

contest why

[rough talon]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-mushroom-cloud-atomic-bomb-bomb-boom-gif-4464831

[plush vale]

to prevent nuclear war, got it

[molten crater]

next contest when?

[summer nebula]

can't wait for the winner to have their sprite be the server icon for under a day

[rough talon]

LMAO

[wind matrix]

smh no one asks how is contest

[rough talon]

ACTUALLY WHAT WILL YOU GUYS DO FOR THAT

[steel vortex]

Who is contest 🤔

[rough talon]

that's so funny

[summer nebula]

based on what you've said, we're presuming it's dead

[rough talon]

will the person who wins this contest get it for longer by the basis of tyrantrum contest voting being on for so long? or will snorunt family also be very long

[lusty crystal]

Ok but where is the contest

[wind matrix]

Ask Tee. I don't know

[plush vale]

just keep pushing back each server icon switch and then mon who gets in last gets to go 3 weeks till next normal contest ends or however long

[rough talon]

so therefore it balances it out

FUUCK

[wind matrix]

in yr house

[verbal lance]

Ok but what is contest?

[rough talon]

Im still waiting for the results of this one :/

(scolipede contest JHNUKINJUSAD)

[sly gorge]

personally I just wanna see the points speard

like they did for the sableye contest

[rough talon]

admittedly, im just excited which is the only reason why im like jittery or anything

im just like

OHHH shit i wanna see who wins !!

but i understand and respect staff's time so i dont vocalize that

[late sequoia]

Got my snorunt submission in.

[sly gorge]

i personally don't care about winning i just wanna know if my shit is up to snuff

[lusty crystal]

I just want to see if I got over 6.9 points

[molten crater]

just so you can say... ||nice||?

[elder marlin]

I have a leaked copy of sprite results and your sprite got 6.89 points

[lusty crystal]

I'm in a similar situation with my spriter application where I'm always really hoping a sprite manager would show up and at times want to just try getting a sprite managers attention , but I understand that there are alot of applications and most of the time it takes a while and just requires patience

wait would sending this message be attracting a sprite managers attention I think I've failed my goal of patience

[cloud solstice]

there's like more than 100 applications right?
that's so much

[rough talon]

Ohhh

now i see why they want more sprite managers

[molten crater]

so that there are more staff to vote and the results take longer yeah thats why

[rough talon]

LOL

[dull crater]

Curse you windows

It restarted and I lost my fusion

[misty acorn]

And that is why I sprite on my Nokia

Even if the world breaks out in a nuclear war, my wip is safe

[raven pulsar]

just save every 5 minutes

[silver solar]

If you’re being serious, those are posted

[dense jackal]

Become a programmer. You'll push ctrl+s like it's a disease you caught

[silver solar]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11PEUNHUXiVSpVCt7tPM6YRvZO9WYKMbaZJMSr5Sjh6A/edit?usp=sharing

Scolipede results

[rough talon]

no im joking

[shut cipher]

Ur a programmer?

[limpid sphinx]

rip results

[hazy chasm]

lol

[slow gyro]

Lmao snorunt contest close day is closer than Tyrantrum contest close day and we haven’t got the results of the last one yet

[ripe citrus]

I know right

[limpid sphinx]

its not im gonna be in a good position but im curious lol

[slow gyro]

Same

[limpid sphinx]

shut up youre a beast

[outer valve]

Ima pull the contest up and be last place

[amber sluice]

The tension only grows as we wait, like a hung jury every minute leaves us to imagine how fierce the debate behind the doors is

[slow gyro]

Haven’t done great in any mini contest

[limpid sphinx]

havent done great in any contest lmao

[outer valve]

havent done great in any contest

[lunar comet]

plot twist: ties are now broken by pitting the two fusions against one another in a fight to the death

[cunning zinc]

Gonna have to give up on this contest oof

[fading lodge]

Plot twist: the staff took vacations and didn't tell the server, so judging is delayed. (May be real story, who knows).

[plucky arch]

i mean youre not far off, we been busy

[outer valve]

lol

[young plover]

makes sense, the whole situation means a lot's going on

[near horizon]

I'm going to change a little : when's the next voting phase for the LC ?

[wind matrix]

never, they died

[wind matrix]

[tepid gyro]

i hope this is one big elaborate troll and we never get the tyrunt contest results

[young plover]

i don't, personally

[dense jackal]

Sure am (we're everywhere )

[shut cipher]

Lol, what language? I'm currently learning php, java and python

[dense jackal]

Mostly C#, but I quite like C++ too, I just rarely have cause to use it. (I've also used Java, python, go, C, SQL, haskell at various points)

[sudden linden]

Ooh, fab, nice to see fellow programmers.

My focus was more on web design. HTML5, CSS, a bit of Javascript and SQL...

[dense jackal]

I've never touched the web dev stuff. Even though it's apparently not too hard and has some decent pay cheques compared to other programming 😛

[lusty crystal]

Most I've done in terms of programming is scratch and very basic python

[dense jackal]

I coded a sine approximation in scratch once (I didn't realise it was built in until I was basically finished the test project 😅 )

[hushed shoal]

Best thing I ever coded in Scratch was a platformer (still wip lol)

But that was because of this series of YT tutorials by griffpatch

[fossil lava]

Wonder what new contest we'll have after the mini contests are over

I assume it won't purely be one pokemon or one line, since the Jirachi one and all the mini ones were that

So it'd have to be a theme thing, but I have no idea what that'd be

[dense jackal]

I've only ever scene Pokémon specific contests. What themes have there been in the past?

[random crypt]

there was family fusion right before jirachi(?)

[dense jackal]

Oh, of course. The umbreon eevee!

[lusty crystal]

I think earlier I scrolled back in #event-announcements to a random point and saw an egyption themed contest

[steel vortex]

Fall/Winter theme would be so beautiful! And fits the season! (Sorry South Hemisphere)

[dense jackal]

but that's the only place it's actually winter? 😆
It's not even autumn yet

i guess by the end of the mini contests it will be... 🙂

[steel vortex]

For us it's autumn (at least the northwest side) whoops xD

Also yeah I assume after the minis, at least a month'll pass

Oh could do an Autumn/Spring for north and south, combo contest :D

Also very pretty

[dense jackal]

will be extra funny if there's no deerling in the game ^^

[steel vortex]

PLEASE

Extra propoganda, if we vote Sawsbuck, we can have a season themed mini contest or one down the road

[hushed shoal]

what if they’re delaying the contest results until they find new sprite managers

the ones for the t-rex comp i mean

[steel vortex]

Thorns said they're just dealing with a close tie for the top 3 rn, so have to re-vote

[young plover]

oh, so the end is in sight? or did i just completely misunderstand the situation
anyway, good to know it's really competitive!

[steel vortex]

They're aiming for this week Wednesday (with some leeway of course)
Mhm! Very close ahaha!

[young plover]

well my brain had "end in sight" as like, hours rather than 24+ hours for some reason, but considering 100+ entries that IS definitely still close lol
I wonder how I placed. Mine is very reliant as a reference, is my first sprite, and has a couple of notable flaws (a bit of a strange glow effect for fire's lighting change on nearby objects & lack of clarity on monkey posing due to some changes that happened during the development and not having enough time to change it in the end due to some tech errors)

do you know if they give any feedback? i would guess minimal or none given, again, 100+ entries, but still

[steel vortex]

Usually they can't with the submission amount ahaha, but you're free to use #1050404143807873157 for that, or sometimes ask a sprite manager here afterwords (but don't count on that xD)
Will say, staff contests do not cater well to refs and technical errors, they're really looking for sprites that fit the game and are solid lmao

[devout cloud]

uhh when are the tyrantrum contest winners being announced? the glalie/froslass contest is almost done...

[steel vortex]

. scroll like a second up xD

Patience is a virtue

[late sequoia]

Every time we ask they push it back a day

[random crypt]

how do people come in here without scrolling up a lil

if you're gonna ask atleast check gdi

[young plover]

Oh, yeah, I used spritework for that before submitting, the specific issues I listed with that came from there (as well as my knowledge of the palette limit which is the main technical issue I encountered...)
I mean, just because it's a reference doesn't mean it doesn't fit, game's already got references as primary sprites, they just gotta be well-identifiable and high quality. Probably the main issue would just be that the best I could do to communicate head vs body was having one be more accurate to the Pokemon since my original plan of having one up on top of the other's head would've needed a completely different pose for me to communicate within the sprite size limit which I failed to familiarize myself with when making the initial sketch. (Tyrantrum is so big that if they aren't bending down then fitting 90% of Pokemon's heads on top simply would not work, much less anything more) Also the technical errors were all dealt with before I submitted, it's just that that took up the time remaining that I otherwise would've used implementing the fixes to the other issues lol.

[steel vortex]

Oh it definitely depends yeah! There are ref sprites that portray the fusion as well so it's readable and a nice easter egg for those who know! (you don't see much of those these days is all xD)
Tyrantrum is a very intimidating mon, I dropped out cause of that ahahahaha

[crisp cargo]

LITERALLY LOOK LIKE 5 POSTS ABOVE YOURS

bro i'm so tired of "contest results when"

[young plover]

lol fair
i can definitely see mine getting a bit on the lower side since it's not like "Yeah this portrays the exact idea of Infernape's head on Tyrantrum's body" but imo I prefer idea of "Monkey in control of dinosaur" more than a big funny monkey dino. Despite my affinity for chimeras on account of their epicness.

[undone crag]

Ok but when are we getting the results for the stableye contest tho

[young plover]

when's the results for the stufful and bewear contest?

[ashen sapphire]

I like how Glalie has become one of the new "what do I use when I want to make a cursed fusion" Pokemon already.

[steel vortex]

That does sound fun! (I can't see the Tyrantrum folder anymore whoops)

[young plover]

one sec i'll see if im able to link the spritework room in here (object if that's illegal i'll check the rules I assume it's not though)

[crisp cargo]

me trying to make something cool-looking with it:

https://tenor.com/view/yes-awkward-black-kid-gif-14606599

[young plover]

wait do we have to worry about "Contest voting. This should be a courtesy as opposed to a rule, but it will still be enforced. Do not talk about individual sprites currently being voted on in contests, as this potentially sways and influences voting outcomes. This also means before voting begins, so no discussion on sprites until they are out of the voting or until voting is done. Posting the sprites in spritework to receive feedback is an exception to that, however, so feel free to discuss work in progress sprites there before they are submitted to the contest." or is that only for public contests

[ashen sapphire]

oh sure there are plenty of cool-looking fusions with it too

but there are also a solid handful of "wow! that's cursed (affectionate)"

[tough apex]

Omg but how could I not talk about that one frosglarunt fusion

It looked so cool with its 288x288 size and ice and or ghost typing

[crisp cargo]

honestly i like a lot of the glalies i'm seeing

[steel vortex]

I feel it's past the og contest enough to not worry ahaha
This does mostly apply to public ones, staff are less likely to be swayed

[crisp cargo]

props to the spriters for going the extra mile with what is essentially "ball 2: on ice"

[tough apex]

Ball 3 ahktually smh

[crisp cargo]

which one is ball 2 then...

[tough apex]

Voltorb

[steel vortex]

Vote spheal so we can have ball 4

[crisp cargo]

because i was counting voltorb and electrode as 1

[tough apex]

Ig maril or azuril are BALLS

[steel vortex]

They are 2 completely disticnt pokemon smh /j

[tough apex]

Anyways vote spheal fr

[young plover]

ok lol https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1144311228924186665 (I hope that link works I think it does)

yay it worked!

[young mica]

(Hi sorry - I’m not the brightest candle on the chandelure, how do you actually submit a sprite to the contest?)

[crisp cargo]

you click on the google drive link

[young plover]

you add them to the google drive in #event-announcements (if you need more detailed instructions i leave it to someone else)

[crisp cargo]

right click on the folder, there should be an option to add a file

[young mica]

I wasn’t signed in ty

[crisp cargo]

anyways back to doing meteos-like designs out of pixel ship generators

[stray condor]

wait are they actually delaying it a day everytime someone asks lmfaaooo

[crisp cargo]

n... no that's a joke (i think)

[crisp cargo]

this post

[fringe mica]

hi guys

wrong channel

[shut cipher]

For contests, wud i be allowed to reupload my submission before the deadline? Like if I wanted to fix/add something etc

[undone crag]

Absolutely, just make sure it’s only one entry and named right

[shut cipher]

Alright cool

I feel like I keep adding changes lol, oh well

[hard grove]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-democracy-i-love-democracy-gif-13935227

(This scene showed a representative republic. There was no democracy going on only the elite's voted.)

[crisp cargo]

so the scene is technically accurate to the statement

[shut cipher]

Tbf for the main contests, anyone can vote

[crisp cargo]

yes but this isn't a main contest

[silver solar]

I’ve decided i dont have the energy to enter this contest

Instead i shall make more of my reference sheets

[shut cipher]

Im very well aware of this fact, thank you for reminding me though

[slow gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-i-am-the-senate-gif-10270130

[hard grove]

https://tenor.com/view/not-yet-mace-windu-star-wars-gif-9797353

[tough apex]

Me psycologically warfaring so my sprite moves up

[fast bough]

https://tenor.com/view/growing-old-getting-old-grow-old-old-man-becoming-old-gif-17885988

[near horizon]

but if everyone does the same, it won't move up x)

[fast bough]

[lunar comet]

I know this isn't the case but I personally like to imagine they've been voting on the same three way tie nonstop for the past few days and they keep having to re-do it because it keeps getting tied again

Step 1: obtain discord nitro
Step 2: make the three winners into a gif
Step 3: upload gif as server icon

[fringe mica]

dont we have a tyrantrum contest

where server pfp

[cloud solstice]

a tyrantrum contest? where?

[crisp cargo]

i mean it's at level 3 already i just think they want a single winner for convenience's sake

[dense jackal]

A tyrantrum contest, in my PIF discord? It's more likely than you think

[rough talon]

Gonna be really honest, like i said earlier

I just feel bad for who has to be the server icon

LMAO

[cloud solstice]

1 day server icon

[dense jackal]

Promised: to be the server icon for a week.
Actually get: 15 minutes of fame

[plush vale]

I still say just push all the server icons back a week and then have it eat into the like month last one will have during long contest

[hard grove]

Poor winner will have their fusion up for a few hours as the discord pic at this rate.

[shut cipher]

Discord server icon for only 1 minute

[plush vale]

-1 hour

[cloud solstice]

the snorunt contest winner is spoiled and used as the icon instead before the results

[rough talon]

Instead of asking when contest results, or how the contest is

we need to as how the contest results themselves are doing.

im sure that'll encourage them

honestly though

respect to staff for taking their time on this and ensuring quality

i appreciate that this vote has been longer instead of it being rushed

[plush vale]

clearly we should just skip the server image for next mon, unless it's one I like

[young plover]

fuse the two fusions that win snorunt and tyrantrum to make a 4x fusion

[hard grove]

They are doing the Dinosaur.

https://tenor.com/view/walk-the-dinosaur-was-not-was-open-the-door-get-on-the-floor-everybody-gif-18688047

[crisp cargo]

the votes were never rushed the problem is, from what i've heard, that there's a tie that's been taking a while to get to

[rough talon]

well no

im saying them rushing the votes because of the time or something

(which they didnt do)

[fleet obsidian]

Ahhhhhh it ends tomorrow

[primal iron]

Can we get a clue on who the top 3 is the suspense is killing me

[subtle moss]

don't rush them

I'm sure it's frustrating enough that they had to delay it to begin with

[plush vale]

it has a tyrunt or tyrantrum component

[fresh kindle]

wait- why did they have to delay it?

[subtle moss]

I don't know

just complication's I'm assuming

[fresh kindle]

oh

[heady moat]

It's not a big deal anyway - It's just a fun contest for a free fangame where nobody involved gets anything other than a sense of accomplishment. I'm fine with waiting

[near horizon]

egality at top 1 and triple equality at top 3 (well it's top 2 but it's top 3 because there's an equality at top 1)

[cloud pulsar]

you get a role and be the icon of the server

i think you do get something

[fresh kindle]

oh

[heady moat]

Yeah, but that's not really worth rushing the mods over

[fresh kindle]

do contest entries get added to the game btw?

or do you still have to put them in the sprite gallery in order to get them added

[heady moat]

Not by default - But you can add sprites you make for contests to the sprite-gallery if you have the Spriter role, then they WILL get added

[fresh kindle]

makes sense

[near horizon]

it depends if the spriter added them to the gallery or not

[random crypt]

ye, them getting in is separate to the contest

[fresh kindle]

so I still need to put them in sprite gallery in order for them to be added then XD (or at least once I get the spriter role)

[near horizon]

exactly

[fresh kindle]

I hope I can manage to get my entry to actually be submitted

xd

[near horizon]

you can submit your entries to the contest drive even if you're not a spriter

[fresh kindle]

yeah ik

[fleet obsidian]

Wait is contest closed?

[fresh kindle]

it's just taking a long time to upload though for some reason xd

[shut cipher]

not the snorunt one

[fleet obsidian]

Thank goodness lmao

[slender thunder]

tantrums when

[vestal token]

tyrantrum was last one

[plush vale]

when they're done myst

[fathom parcel]

hi, how do i get the pokemon ids from the result spread sheets? the images are just numbered but dont have the ids

[vast jay]

Basically the winners get to pick a Pokemon line that they want to add to the game. When all the contests are done we'll pick one at random from that list and add it to the game

I'm not sure to what extent that was communicated though lol, I don't see it in the contest announcement posts

[slow gyro]

Then i need to win cause I need Torkoal in the game

[lusty crystal]

Time to think of the stupidest pokemon for the 0% chance I win a contest

[heady moat]

OH. I did NOT realize that

That's actually really cool

[cloud solstice]

Is it true? bc what are the poll for otherwise if its the winners that choose

[vast jay]

The winners pick one extra line. The poll is for the rest

[cloud solstice]

what if someone win twice? do they pick 2?

[vast jay]

Then they can add the game mon to the list twice to make it more likely to get picked at random

[tranquil fable]

I now NEED to win a contest so my boi Surskit gets into the game

[cloud solstice]

well I win you can guess who I would add
cresselia

[heady moat]

This is the only forseeable way to get Relicanth in

[near horizon]

Continent Face pokemon added to the drive!

[errant yarrow]

everyone needs to pick wurmple for the +5 at the end

[thick harness]

Oh that's neat! Didn't know there was going to be another wave of new pokemon, that's a nice surprise

[heady moat]

It's the most economical pick

[lusty crystal]

Ok so what is the most random pokemon everyone can think of?

[vast jay]

They're gonna be available at the same time as the rest but yeah

I thought this had already been announced ngl

But I guess not lol

[near horizon]

I think that they've forgotten to inform us

[heady moat]

Pansear. ONLY Pansear

[silver solar]

So cat has a chance! I just need to shill hard enough

[dense jackal]

oh no. My desire to win is now so disproportionate to the time i have to spend on contest entries that could actually win

[arctic garnet]

This is the first I've heard of it, didn't see anything in the announcements channel or any contest posts. But it is an awesome perk so thank you for giving winners that chance!

[austere nimbus]

i came back from school hoping the results woud be in

idk why im so eager when ik im gonna place like -1000th lmao

[cloud pulsar]

i think some of the old members mentioned something about this
but i dont think it was announced

[late sequoia]

Yeah wasn't announced but I think some of us figured when a winner was asked to reach out in dms

[near horizon]

I just want to do best that previous contest, i think i was 83 for sableye and 53 for venipede family

[heady moat]

Yeah, my big goal is just to score higher than last time

[lusty crystal]

My goal is just to get over 6.9 points

[dense jackal]

Why not aim to get over 69th place? It's easy if you come first

[stiff valley]

smh frogo leaking the prize

[near horizon]

It's not a leek, it's a secret announcement x)

[acoustic light]

that's a crazy prize to miss the announcement for

[hard grove]

Us making sprites for new Pokemon that are going to be added to the game VS Frog trying to implement them into the game.

[misty acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-big-news-big-news-gif-19264199

[fleet obsidian]

What time to contests end?

[plush vale]

you can check for each announce one by hovering over the time left thing

[plush vale]

to no extent I believe

[plush vale]

so do they pick after we know eveyrthing in to avoid picking one that's already gotten in?

[fleet obsidian]

Oh cool I still got all of tomorrow lol

[plush vale]

you oughta change your name btw as it already won

[fleet obsidian]

Yeah true lmao get some reps in for another mon

[vast jay]

No, what I've done with the two winners so far is I've asked them to give me a top 5. If the first pick is already in, then I'll use their 2nd choice and so on

[plush vale]

what if all 5 are in

prob better to ask in advance though to avoid issues where somebody isn't gettin back to ya

so is that why ya'll were talking about that one guy not responding after winning

[vast jay]

Then i guess I'll have to dm them again for a new choice before we draw the winning Pokemon I guess hahah

I doubt it'll happen though

[plush vale]

pointless question, if everybody had the same top choice and it wasn't in would you do a draw anyways just for lols?

[summer nebula]

What happens if the same person wins multiple contests? Is second place chosen for one of the contests, or is there just one less set of mons?

[plush vale]

no they just get more entries for better odds

[vast jay]

Sure why not xd

[dense jackal]

May the odds be ever in your favour, and all that

[plush vale]

are legendaries and such being held back from being announced if they were top thing already or have they just not been the top thing

[vast jay]

I can't reveal which Pokémon the 2 winners so far have picked, but they weren't the same

[lusty crystal]

Do they have vowels in?

[plush vale]

nah I meant for the vote stuff

[vast jay]

Does that eliminate any options? 🤨

[lusty crystal]

Idk probably not

[vast jay]

Lol then yes, they do have vowels

[plush vale]

I know that none of them start with q

[hard grove]

Someone say vow?

[plush vale]

basically are ya revealing stuff in vote order (besides starters) or is there some curation to reveal order, eg saving legendaries or something for last

[dense jackal]

So none of the contest winners want jynx added to the game... interesting

[plush vale]

y is a vowel when theres no other vowel in word

[summer nebula]

only if you're Welsh

[vast jay]

Yeah there is some curation

[cold horizon]

So what you are saying is that there will be more than 20 pokemon added

[summer nebula]

guarantee it'll be a Necrozma finale

[plush vale]

at least 24 I guess given we got 3 extra already

[vast jay]

I really can't say anymore than that tho 🤐

[plush vale]

understandable

[plush vale]

use interpretive dance

[lusty crystal]

Will you be adding any gen 5 fairy types?

[cold horizon]

well i dont need to know more, 20 extra mons was already good news

[hard grove]

If I win I will add seedot line. And laugh as people try to get around the awkward body parts they have that could look like a rule 2 break.

[lusty crystal]

I'll add ducklett

[vast jay]

Yup! The 20 spots are for the poll. Scolipede and the contest winner pick are on top of that

[plush vale]

sableye counted as a poll one though right?

[dense jackal]

I hope the mini contests just keep going, and going, until every pokemon in the poll is in the game, and the people in #pif-hoenn-discussion look on in horror at the futility of all their campaigning and unceasing discussions. All completely pointless from the very beginning 😛

[cold horizon]

which was the contest winner pick from the revealed ones so far?

[plush vale]

secret

[vast jay]

Yes Sableye counts in the 20

[vast jay]

None! The contest one will be picked at the end

[cold horizon]

oh

[plush vale]

I misunderstood question

[cold horizon]

so there are 13 slots left for mons

[plush vale]

14

[cold horizon]

from the poll

oh right Tyrunt and Tyrantrum are just 2

lol

[plush vale]

ah and that's also why it's so important there's just 1 winner for contest

[cold horizon]

so does each new line added result in a contest that would let the winner pick 1 extra line of mons?

that quite a few

[plush vale]

no

or well

not in like a loop sense but yes for each of mini contests adding 1 option to the wheel so to speak

so the contest winners are only way for clampearl line and comfee to get in 😛

[cold horizon]

hmm mons with unique abilities are whats needed now imo

Tyrunt line was a great choice cuz Strong Jaw

[plush vale]

its counterpart has refrigerate, clawitzer has mega launcher, there's also stuff with unique moves like geomancy or oblivion wing, or accelerock, better stats and more typing options to go with existing rare valuable moves like noivern with boomburst, or rare abilities like speed boost from sharpedo

[undone crag]

Ye I mean my main guy has a good ability but I also just like em

[plush vale]

weather setters like gigalith or mons that are strong with em like excadrill can also be good

[late sequoia]

There's definitely a balance of choosing Pokemon that would be fun to use in game with balance of Pokemon that are fun to sprite with. Its the duality of the server with one population that loves just to play and another that just loves to sprite. Of course there is also a population of people who love to do both (I love seeing my sprites in game).

[plush vale]

I'm mainly here for the art but won't hesitate to make case for what I think are strong additions via mechanical merits too

[misty acorn]

We all know that we would just be getting like 16 dragons if we just got the top 20 non-starters&legis in order lmao

[cold horizon]

I mainly sprite stuff i use ingame, so generally I would like mons that are worth using

[amber sluice]

There's definitely overlap in what people like to sprite and what's fun to use in game - it's part of why there are more sprites for starters final satges, psuedos and legendaries than middle stages of ordinary mons, so I try to prioritize based on what I would enjoy using in a playthrough; with more points going to one's that have appeal on multiple fronts

[lunar comet]

Wait so... Does each contest winner get to pick a mon (10-ish total picks) or just one contest winner picks a mon (only one total pick)

If the latter, how is the picker chosen?

[misty acorn]

random

he explained it all

[plush vale]

each mini contest winner picks and then there is a drawing for which gets in of those

like a raffle type drawing not a art type

[lunar comet]

Ah mb, didn't scroll far enough up

[plush vale]

also prob best to turn off ping when replying to frogman

[lunar comet]

Time to bribe as many contest winners as possible to get my shell boi in /s

[plush vale]

do not harass em

[lunar comet]

...how tf did you know I pinged

Secret alt account confirmed??

[plush vale]

@ is there when ya ping

[plush vale]

look

[plush vale]

see

[lunar comet]

...huh

Never noticed that

[lunar comet]

Twas a joke, plus starters are pretty much deconfirmed anyway

For this update at least

[rough talon]

oh are these even ones off of the polls??

thats so cool

i wish i could win.... [dreamy sigh]

[lunar comet]

Try your hardest and maybe you will

If not you'll at least improve your skills

[rough talon]

[slowly this image fades in]

[lunar comet]

Imagine wanting a spiky butt slug in my christian pokemon fangame

(I kid, snom is a good pick)

[rough talon]

oh i thought you said.

plug. okay

also NO I LOVE BUTT SLUG

[lunar comet]

Wrong shape

[rough talon]

NOT EVEN A SLUG

ITS A WORM

[undone crag]

So if they really mean ANY any pokemon, I'll admit I'd absolutely go for Tinkaton.

[rough talon]

where's that chart of the least represented types

[dense jackal]

I don't think the game can go past gen 7. Something about the engine

[lunar comet]

I don't think anything past gen 7 is applicable since additional code is required

[undone crag]

Ye which is why realistically Gastrodon would continue to get support lol

[rough talon]

hmm really?

well for the coding part

im just curious because of why, is it how things changed post gen 7??

[lunar comet]

No weed cat for us ;-;

[undone crag]

Not until Pokémon 2Infinite2Fusion

[lunar comet]

Tbh I don't even know what changed in gen 7 so idk

[subtle moss]

InfiniterFusion

[lunar comet]

Infinity and Beyond Fusion

[rough talon]

God i just want snom

im so sad

its so over for snom fans

[dense jackal]

I seem to remember people saying the game runs on "Pokémon essentials" which is only up to date to gen 7... Or, something...

[lunar comet]

What gen is snom again

[rough talon]

8

[undone crag]

8

[lunar comet]

I can't keep track of anything past like. Gen 6 lol

Ah rip

Oh fuck that means no sobble either....

[rough talon]

AGHH THERES SO MANY COOL LINES FROM GEN 8 AND 9

blows up

that I LIKE too

[verbal lance]

I'm hoping for the Altaria line

[lunar comet]

True

Although you could just do jumpluff/Pidgeot or something

[amber sluice]

Wanna make sky blue dragon birds with weather theming. Should really get off my butt and do that, honestly

[half rapids]

The engine not supporting past Gen 7 doesn’t make any sense. They don’t have anything unique about them, besides possibly certain abilities that could cause trouble for the engine specifically? I also am not super knowledgeable about the engine, just speculation on my end

[lunar comet]

So hmmm

20 slots, plus contest winner pick, plus scolipede, means 24-26 new pokemon

26 times 446 is uh. A lot

[half rapids]

I also believe 20 was somewhat of a “soft cap” if the line would make it 22 from the polls, it would still get added

[thick harness]

technically it goes from 24-29 if they pick Wurmple

[lunar comet]

Fuck you're right

[rough talon]

LOL

LOL

[lunar comet]

add all of Spinda's unique sprites

[amber sluice]

I mean presumably it's a combination of new abilities not being programmed in and manually adding every new pokemons stats, from type and learnset to Stat distribution and male/female odds. It's a lot of manual labor, even to just manually add a single mon, unless thr engine already has em.

I'd guess, anyway. I don't really do code.

[lunar comet]

This plus any new moves they might have

[half rapids]

Yeah alright, that’s way more fair and probably why, as opposed to engine limitations. That’s probably what they said so it makes the most sense to people (I do program like a lot)

[lunar comet]

On top of that if pokemon essentials is what's been used in the past, it'd be unfamiliar territory to manually add stuff in

[rough talon]

i think youve hit the nail on the head

[amber sluice]

Yeah. Any one task is small, but there can be a lot of small tasks - and then there's considering how the new might interact with the old and any adjustments needed to make sure it doesn't break

[half rapids]

Oh actually this is probably likely as well

[lunar comet]

^

Oops

[rough talon]

i do think theres gen 8 packs out there, but im unsure if thats really worthwhile or viable

[half rapids]

Wasn’t speculating to call anyone out either lol, just was curious

Just kidding, clearly they’re LYING and the developers are just LAZY

[lunar comet]

"Don't bother me with the details, just make it work"

[amber sluice]

Yeah no worries it's fun to think and talk sometimes - it's how learning happens, for me at least. Had many a bad idea bonked away through conversation

[rough talon]

its so over snom fans

[half rapids]

Like almost all engine limitations is because it’s in old RPGMaker but obviously changing engines is out of the question :P

[rough talon]

Me winning a contest and immediately turning towards the coders, running at sudden high speeds towards them with a knife just to make them waste 94509238423 years of their life coding butt faced caterpillar into the game with an evolution i dont even particularly enjoy

[half rapids]

If I understood RPGMaker enough, I’d have added snom in myself ;)

[subtle moss]

"If I could do the thing I would do the thing"

[rough talon]

well yes.

this is how life and concepts work

[half rapids]

Hahaha okay u got me

I was curious about how hard it’d be to mod, like if a dedicated fan liked the game enough could they add their own Pokémon

Haven’t looked into that yet

[rough talon]

afaik coding is a nightmare from my coder friends but

[half rapids]

Am coder. It is about 80% of the time but that other 20% is pure euphoria

[rough talon]

HAHA

Yeah sounds about right

[dense jackal]

20 is high...

[rough talon]

good luck if you try with rpgmaker

i have a rubber duck that my friend suggestedfor me to buy as my therapist due to the concept of rubber duck debugging i was just reminded

my strongest soldier

[half rapids]

TRUE rubber duck debugging is huge

[half rapids]

Guess I’m just a good programmer then

(I am not I have severe impostor syndrome please help)

[rough talon]

dont use my little guy for debugging but i sure do use him for comfort

i love him

let me get a photo

[primal iron]

Now don't get me wrong, snom is clearly superior to Frosmoth on their own, but Frosmoth has a LOT of fusion potential as a classy fluffy white winged thing

[rough talon]

you're not wrong

[half rapids]

Yeah, also giving it not the worst typing in the game

[rough talon]

would be great for royalty/mink coats

my ducky

[half rapids]

What a pleasant fellow

[primal iron]

lolll

[rough talon]

i call him mr. therapist but i really should find a name for him

he's great for both stimming AND venting to

[primal iron]

Theraquack

[amber sluice]

Quack Doctor

[heady moat]

Mine is a Porygon figurine - Any time I hit a programming issue, he's right there to listen. Feels fitting

[late sequoia]

Say it every contest but bruh, so many good fusions for this contest (and just snorunt line in general looking through spritework)

[lunar comet]

honestly??? snorunt is not a pokemon i've ever really given a second thought to, it's just been kind of There for me

i'm glad these contests are giving me an opportunity to revisit pokemon i may have overlooked

[late sequoia]

100%

[strange obsidian]

so uh whats the exact time the current contest ends

[errant yarrow]

you can hover the "ends in one day" thing and it will tell you in #event-announcements

[strange obsidian]

ah thank you

[civic mauve]

Anyone have any thoughts on what they’d choose if they win a contest? Or are we not allowed to talk about it?

[slow gyro]

Torkoal

[verbal lance]

Altaria

[civic mauve]

I’m going to have to think about it a bit. Like Stakataka’s likely still going to be number 1 for me, but a lot of 2/3 stage mons would move up since that no longer counts against them

[errant yarrow]

Wurmple

[civic mauve]

Torkoal would be great for a lot of things. Altaria’s less of a priority for me since Jumpluff works okay for cloud fusions imo

I think Wurmple still doesn’t feel like it adds enough even w/o the slots counting against it, but Dustox could be fun

[undone crag]

Currently assuming certain requirements I'd absolutely go Gastrodon

[civic mauve]

Nudibranch fusions would be fun ^^

[foggy spruce]

Guys, trubbish for the uniqueness

[undone crag]

Nudibranch?

[foggy spruce]

Or ludicolo for the hat of course

[civic mauve]

I like Trubbish, tho it does compete w/ Mimikyu a bit. Still, I’d love to make fusions w/ it

[civic mauve]

Sea slugs!

[undone crag]

Oh yeah for sure. Some people have already done art of some cool ones.

Also think it's a mon I'd be glad to use for its stats and ability beyond just being cool looking.