event-general

[acoustic light]

whoops

[teal grove]

You can also just say "IF contests are built different" if you want to

[acoustic light]

I think the point is that if voting is trimmed to only spriters sure personal biases are not eliminated but they are much much less of a factor in the voting process

[warm blaze]

How is that built different? They are built so that players can pick what they like. Just because it isnt what you want doesn't mean it isnt a valid competition.

[drifting wave]

I'll make fun of the elitism of a panel of art critics until the end of time; at the end of the day, that's how art contests work. If you want a community vote for art, it's not a contest, it's a community drive or something?

[acoustic light]

you can bring it back to the kitchen argument and say a professional cook is better equipped to judge food than somebody who is not that

[bleak flint]

oof what did i walk in on....

[drifting wave]

democracy manifest

[twin otter]

guys no offense but I was here when this convo started and since that point I got a haircut, took a shower, made and ate dinner, hung out with a friend, and played some valorant... none of us have any real say in this and our complaints/comments are here for contest managers to read. If they believe it is a problem then they will take action, or if you feel like your complaints have not been heard and would like to make your voice heard more I suggest collecting a group of people or making a google form, then start collecting and compiling opinions. Once you have written and agreed upon consensus on 1. what is the problem 2. why is it a problem (with evidence) and 3. what is the solution you would like to see implemented. send it to the contest managers demanding action alongside a sheet with contact info from all participants willing to be contacted. contining this disscussion here with a revolving door of people just entering the conversation will not achieve anything.

[warm blaze]

I mean you can compete in worlds for soccer and you can compete against your friends in soccer. Its a scale and this art contest is closer to the friendly competition side.

[acoustic light]

real

[warm blaze]

It can achieve entertainment and widening our views on others opinions.

[drifting wave]

Eh... I kind of disagree with the premise, I don't think my argument is comparable to "competing in worlds for soccer"

[silver merlin]

ARE YOU GUYS STILL GOING

[drifting wave]

Art contests are held in every town in the US, at least once a year. they all function the exact same way

[silver merlin]

LMAO

[bleak flint]

I feel like i just walked in on a political debate i have no opinion on and now im stressed

[drifting wave]

I just got here, idk how long this convo has been going

[warm blaze]

Aye thats similar to community soccer.

[grand tusk]

Mods coming in and seeing another contest arguement

[teal grove]

Little over 9 hours

[twin otter]

its been 8 hours, veiws have been widened

[drifting wave]

ok, except, local town art contest are judged by panels of critics, and not the comunity

[warm blaze]

haha well I havent been here the whole time

[acoustic light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os8E6iUxQ5U hey guys check out this cool video i found

[grand tusk]

you guys have been in discussion for 8/9 hours?

nerds

[drifting wave]

sick lmao

[teal grove]

We do shifts

[warm blaze]

just figured Id pitch my opinion in. Dont plan on sticking around for that long hahaha

[grand tusk]

this is why contest participants are descended from raccoons

[teal grove]

I slept for like, 7 hours

[twin otter]

🤣 that is the best response i have ever heard

[drifting wave]

I got tagged in without realising it

[grand tusk]

talking about pokemon sprite contests is a very serious full time job now

[drifting wave]

I'm havin a great time

[grand tusk]

you guys should consider being disingenuous and never showing your real opinion

always keeping a wall around you

its a healthier mindset probably

[nova willow]

it's been fun to read, I played and got angry at Elden Ring and yall still goin

[warm blaze]

Let it out in the art? XD

[bleak flint]

Okay lets change the topic, opinions on jirachi's shiny

[grand tusk]

shiny, like SFX art that shouldn't be in contests grrr

lets talk about SFX!!

[bleak flint]

well i walked into that one.....

[drifting wave]

I think it's good, but shouldn't have any sfx

fuck, beat me to it

[versed ridge]

Me who rarely adds sfx to my sprites:

[grand tusk]

Me

🟦

[civic mauve]

Part of the problem is that people are trying to do very different things w/ their submissions. If the goal is to make something that looks like it belongs in a Pokémon game that’s very different from making something that uses a lot of advanced art techniques

While the second might be better on a more technical level, a lot of people on this chat would probably argue that the former is a better fit for this type of contest. But the contest rules don’t actually state that that’s the case, so everyone is just voting based on their personal preferences

[drifting wave]

part of what problem? Jirachi's shiny?

[grand tusk]

you

you're the problem

we've decided that we must remove you

[drifting wave]

ah, damn I'm sorry

[twin otter]

yall are crazy and I love it. a part of me hopes this convo dies out b4 I log on tommorow the other part thinks that would be hella impressive so trust in the heart of the cards and do what yall need to do.

[grand tusk]

goodbye

💥

[drifting wave]

[civic mauve]

It was in response to judging art in contests but the chat moved too quickly and I lost my place ^^;

[drifting wave]

all good lol

[grand tusk]

I think we should pick out an elite council of 5 judges, who will look at every sprite before it's entered and decide if it can proceed

these judges should also be allowed to be bribed

[warm blaze]

and executed if their opinion sucks

[bleak flint]

welp anyway imma leave with this unrelated hot take, Salamance is a bad pokemon design. night!

[drifting wave]

ok, I nominate @grand tusk

[grand tusk]

I will judge

automatic yes vote is $10

[warm blaze]

$50 bucks each and we can all tie

[grand tusk]

Spoken like a true dragonite fan, the most overrated of the pseudo dragons

[bleak flint]

nah my fav is Haxorus

[grand tusk]

oh, cool cool, one second

ahem

[grand tusk]

Spoken like a true Haxorus fan, the most overrated of the pseudo dragons

[bleak flint]

lol

[misty acorn]

yooo so many great entries this time

Love to see this much space stuff going on in them
🤝

[civic mauve]

But yeah, if anyone has any ideas for figuring out how to make separate categories for SFX/SFXless sprites work w/o making the managers lives harder lmk I guess?

[warm blaze]

and here comes the fuel

[grand tusk]

fuel makes fire

fire is SFX

we riot again

[misty acorn]

Sfx are fire*

(If used reasonably and well, which they are in most entries ngl)

[grand tusk]

or are they?

lets have a quick discussion about it

[bleak flint]

what if someone made a jirachi/enti joke alt where its that sceen from the lion king where the stars spell out SFX

[nova willow]

does that mean Charmander's fire flame is SFX

[grand tusk]

yes

[warm blaze]

It can be

It will be

[grand tusk]

its legal sfx

wheres the sfx in jirachi, smh smh

[misty acorn]

you are legal sfx

[grand tusk]

thank you

[nova willow]

we can all be legal sfx

[grand tusk]

you know what, now it sounds weird

[nova willow]

I agree

[silver merlin]

if we ever were to limit sfx we'd probably do "dont add sfx outside of what one of the base two pokemong have" but you guys would probably find a way to get around that

[grand tusk]

renaming it to "official sfx"

[silver merlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/909667171146297354.gif?size=44&quality=lossless

[civic mauve]

Eyes, charms, and ribbons. Heck even the crystals kind of make sense since they’re in the Dex entries

[bleak flint]

legit this gonna be my next sprite request

[teal grove]

Not if the contest managers enforce the rule well enough

[warm blaze]

Low colour limit competition then at least the sfx will be impressive

[silver merlin]

nah im probably gonna end up breaking it

thats for like rezza to enforce idk

[drifting wave]

yo, low colour limit sounds so cool actually

[grand tusk]

actually those are all practical effects I think

[misty acorn]

banning sfx is cringe anyway so no need to worry about it

[silver merlin]

yeah id rather ban you

[nova willow]

SFX seems like fun to do though, fun colors and, stuff

[civic mauve]

Extra eyeballs and eggshells were banned in family fuse

[grand tusk]

we should make a random prompt/limitation generator and any sprite you make for the contest must abide by whatever bullshit the generator throws out

"oh sorry buddy, looks like you have to include 8 eyeballs in your fusion!"

[silver merlin]

guys hear me out

we shouldnt make sfx a meta so we can actually do fun stuff in sprites

[grand tusk]

"woah there, prompt says 5 colors max for you"

[warm blaze]

Fuse at least 10 pokemon together

[bleak flint]

joke alt contest would be fun

[grand tusk]

I think that's why there was an entire 6 billion hour discussion about making contest votes spriter only

to stop metas created by these foolish white names

who come in here and ask random stuff somehow

[silver merlin]

yeah "white names"

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/909667171146297354.gif?size=44&quality=lossless

[grand tusk]

green leafs

the lost 'uns

[silver merlin]

i dont think its them making the sprites ngl 😭

[misty acorn]

You guys act like adding sfx is the key to victory when we all know that it's still Gardevoir that should be banned if anything

[grand tusk]

ah, but they ARE voting

[silver merlin]

so true gardevoir just won all the other times

[grand tusk]

and people make what they think gets the most votes

AND NOW

[civic mauve]

Make SFX it’s own category so the rest of us can do whatever w/o worrying about competing w/ the sparkles

But also the SFXers get their own section too show off si everyone wins ^^

[grand tusk]

YOU'RE IN THE 9 HOUR DISCUSSION KATTEN

[silver merlin]

DONT CARE I AM READY

IF YOU ALL DISAGREE I BAN

[cloud pulsar]

we should just ban contest fr fr

[grand tusk]

wait

[silver merlin]

ok there we go we came to an agreement :)

[grand tusk]

kherx is onto something

We should switch to my idea of sprite duels but you lose spriter role if you lose and have to re-earn it

[misty acorn]

Instead of banning sfx, just bann all boring mons without anything fun going on

[silver merlin]

ok imo the worst ones are the ones who are kaiju AND have an ungodly amount of sfx

[nova willow]

I just vote for the cute little fellas though

[grand tusk]

finally, we can ban dunsparce

[silver merlin]

ill ban you then

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/909667171146297354.gif?size=44&quality=lossless

[grand tusk]

I think we should let Kiwi host LC 4

let's get another 2000 in

[silver merlin]

ON

NO

LMFAO

[silver merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/death-note-light-yagami-writing-study-exams-gif-22300481

[grand tusk]

Wait, hear me out

we call it LC 5 and say you have to submit to LC 4 to be eligable

but it doesn't exist

send them on a wild chase

[teal grove]

Kiwi doing infinite entries and then locking the extra rewards behind total amount of entries goals was like

Spitting on the contest managers

[teal grove]

And then crippling them with a bat

[grand tusk]

Just make a single poll with every sprite and then people vote, then we can get it all done at once

[teal grove]

Itll take a day just for people to look at all the entries

[grand tusk]

eh, give em half a day to vote

they can look quicker

[wanton osprey]

😦

[signal reef]

worst take possible ✅

[grand tusk]

yeah you heard me, that pokemon SUCKS

[wanton osprey]

really went out of your way to ping me about it

you're out for blood

[grand tusk]

oh yeah my bad, I forget sometimes

but yes I will fight for my life on why Dunsparce is bad

(dundunsparce is cool though)

[wanton osprey]

now THERE'S a take that's hotter than the god damn sun

[teal grove]

You dislike dunsparce but like dudunsparce

That's

That sure is an opinion

[bleak flint]

dudunsparce is such a meme evolution i love it

[misty acorn]

naaaah

[bleak flint]

dont get me wrong its not a good evolution, but i just love that people have been asking for a dunsparce evolution for so long, and finally The Pokemon Company was just like "FINE HERE" and made it longer

[grand tusk]

dundunsparce is funny in how the evolution is just the thing, but longer

it makes up for it being a dunsparce evo

[bleak flint]

maybe next game we will gen Dundundunsparce

[grand tusk]

also my spite toward every stupid dunsparce fan evolution that ignores what dunsparce even is and makes a stupid dragon or just gyrados 2.0 fuels me

[signal reef]

bruh how can you dislike Dunsparce and like Dudunsparce ?

[grand tusk]

dundunsparce was cathartic seeing reactions from those FOOLS

[timid shore]

i will use them on my team and i will call them beethovan

du-du-dun-SPARCE

[grand tusk]

It could have been any pokemon, the idea of just a longer version of a pokemon with an extra set of stuff is funny

and I mean come on, even the name

dundunsparce

thats funny

[bleak flint]

they bring back gigantamax just to make the LONGEST Dundunsparce

[bleak flint]

seems we agree on this

[grand tusk]

dunsparce can stay as a common gen 2 design L

dundunsparce is the common SV design W

[signal reef]

Name is even funnier in french, Dunsparce is "Insolourdo" and Dudunsparce is "Deusolourdo"
In & Deu being pronunced "Un" & "Deux" french for 1 & 2

[timid shore]

oh yea no the localized names are all very funny

[grand tusk]

exactly, dundunsparce how everything, dunsparce's only redeeming quality is its funny evo

[signal reef]

You guys think SV design are W ???

[grand tusk]

Slither Wing

case closed, your honor

[signal reef]

bro until area zero I couldn't fit one single new mon to put in my team as I found them all horrendous

[grand tusk]

skill issue

[misty acorn]

damn yeah pokemon company is so based

[bleak flint]

you saying you didnt like Clodsire

[signal reef]

He was the only one with Tatsugiri

[bleak flint]

Okay good

[timid shore]

like in mandarin Dunsparce is called 'dirt dragon little brother', while Dudunsparce is called 'dirt dragon festival' but it's pronounced the same as 'dirt dragon big sister'

[grand tusk]

all 3 starters are good

I know some will disagree

but they are fools

[wary crag]

Im sorry

But Dunsparce deserves to be a dragon

[timid shore]

the middle evos could've been better tho

[signal reef]

base but evolutions are kinda lame

[wary crag]

He has suffered enough as a useless shit

[grand tusk]

WRONG

WRONG WRONG WRONG

ITS A SNAKE

[timid shore]

dragon type sucks

[grand tusk]

ITS NOT A DRAGON

[wary crag]

Dunsparce evolution*

Yeah neither is a fkn Bagon

Look at that thing

And what it becomes

[bleak flint]

well thats kinda different because it goes through a metamorphisis

[wary crag]

I can pull like 5 other exanples

[grand tusk]

its literally called bagon

[wary crag]

Yea well why cant dunsparce do that

[grand tusk]

like dragon

[bleak flint]

remoraid and octillary tho....

[wary crag]

Why does a fish become a dragon

[signal reef]

Dunsparce could have been just a flying snake, not necessarely a dragon

[grand tusk]

magikarp is a carp and its a legend that if a carp climbs a waterfall they become a dragon

[wary crag]

I think you are clouded by hatred

[grand tusk]

I have brought facts and logic to your supposed dragon slander

[wary crag]

Towards an innocent creature

[grand tusk]

its fictional

dunsparce can cope just fine with me thinking its an ugly dumb thing

[signal reef]

if you want lore, dunsparce is a tsuchinoko

[grand tusk]

tsuchinoko was the name, I just said flat snake cause i was too lazy to google

thank you

and now flying snake and dragon wannabe fans must cope that dunsparce actually got something good

[bleak flint]

huh, looking at that wouldnt it evolving into a poision type make more sense?

[grand tusk]

I think ground type

pretty sure tsuchinoko means dirt child

if google is right

" According to legend, some tsuchinoko are able to speak and are notorious liars. They are also said to have a taste for alcohol."

[timid shore]

it is

dirt child

[grand tusk]

Dunsparce coulda been even cooler

if dunsparce drank alcohol, eat hot chip and lie, it would be the best

[timid shore]

but that's like, a literal translation

dunsparce suffering alcoholism and change the entire franchise to M rating

[bleak flint]

yo dunsparce knows how to party

[grand tusk]

dunsparce doesn't lie or drink alcohol, reason #20 it sucks

[bleak flint]

or does it.....

[livid tulip]

100% agree honestly

[thick atlas]

i wouldnt put animations in there too since they require skill too. but i agree. if nsfw would be allowed, boobs would win all the time i guess

[tepid reef]

Ah, this contest is a tough one

Honestly, voting for this one's funny

[livid tulip]

Pretty sure you are refering me, so I can reply this.

When I said that we shouldn't take contests too seriously it's because in this current state the perception of how must win or how to make a winner sprite is completely wrong. Of course contest should be important and of course people should care for contest, but not in this current state where most people will see sparkles and vote that ignoring everything else, because this will give the spriters that are actually trying to make genuine fusions designs a bad idea of what a fusion is.

[teal grove]

I wasnt talking about you meru -_-

Not you specifically at least

[livid tulip]

I-I thought

[tepid reef]

Like yeah, even for me voting fairly on this one was pretty difficult

[livid tulip]

But just in case I replied. I think you know I'm with you in this matter at least

[tepid reef]

'Cause in lot of cases, the SFX execution was nice, but the main sprite itself is kind of weak design/execution wise itself

Or just straight up difficult to actually see through the SFX 👁️

[teal grove]

Oh yeah, i just meant compared to static sprites. Put a mammuth up against a basic gen 5 sprite, and then put the same mammuth sprite up against the same gen 5 sprite but animated

[teal grove]

Gotta love them square sprites

[livid tulip]

But yeah, people voting the meta is the actual problem. If SFX were banned, then we will have a different meta, just like the Gardevoir meta or [insert popular Pokémon] meta. The case we are living here wouldn't happen if voters would have some criteria about what must be a fusion or a sprite intended to be in a game, but most people just vote for sprite recolors with sparkles just because is eye-catching

[tepid reef]

And honestly I don't blame them, honestly prolly voted for many of those myself, just because I got distracted

[livid tulip]

I was waiting for the end of the contest but I think this chat had enough shitpost already so I think I can post mine

[subtle moss]

yeah that sounds about right

[tepid reef]

Oh, it's even scaled up lmao

[subtle moss]

I thought I was weird for kinda associating Jirachi with space more than wishes

But I'm not the only one apparently

[tepid reef]

He do be inspired by the falling stars

[subtle moss]

true

[near horizon]

I think i'm in the between of those two x)

[livid tulip]

Jirachi lives in space = space SFX. Sounds logic to me

[subtle moss]

Oh man if only the Beeheeyem line was in IF

[teal grove]

Clefable be like

[livid tulip]

Cosmog*

[subtle moss]

or Palkia

[livid tulip]

Honestly most fusions here look more like Cosmog fusions than Jirachi

[teal grove]

Ive got a funny thing about palkia

[subtle moss]

do you now

that's not very palkia-like

[near horizon]

Minior is nice too, it's literally a meteor / tiny star

[subtle moss]

also, calm down Scrapi

[livid tulip]

Nah Minior is the SFX of most space-related SFX sprites

[subtle moss]

No one told me this was a three-way fusion contest

[near horizon]

I know i made some available in #assets-gallery and like to add them 'cause i like this mon x)

Sadly, minior is food for Rayquaza x)

[livid tulip]

Plays Infinite Fusion

Rival sends Pokéball

The sprite shows a Pokémon with a rain of Minior approaching you while the Pokémon is statically doing a Kamehameha

Foe Pokémon uses Water Gun

[teal grove]

*tackle

[stuck hare]

Whoa I caught up

A tonne has happend since I last was here

[teal grove]

You dont seem to be an efficient stop sign

[stuck hare]

Yeah…

:(

I tried to end it, with Kant and a mediocrely written essay

But I have failed all of you

I do sincerely apologise

[livid tulip]

[dull mortar]

like stopping a train

[livid tulip]

Just wait until the voting results

[dull mortar]

heehoo

[teal grove]

God people are gonna be so angry after the first round

[summer nebula]

the best part is the contest managers can already see the current vote counts

so they get a considerable warning to prepare for the shitstorm

[quartz locust]

Let's not share stuff like this at all, because it's very clearly against Rule 1. Consider this a final warning.

I assume Rule 7 has been broken numerous times since I last scrolled up, so I'll be pinging everyone to scold them shortly. 😛

[stuck hare]

that's a looott of scrolling you'll have to do I'm afraid

[umbral sedge]

I would find it funny if Gamefreak wasn't a lazy pos company

[cloud solstice]

sheesh its been an almost non-stop debate since the polls

[teal grove]

Welcome to contest general

[stuck hare]

before the polls this was such a cute, quiet channelm at least for a bit...

[summer nebula]

i still find it funny that the only defense for dudunsparce is "it's meant to be terrible/lazy as a joke"

[cloud solstice]

why is that so many of the pokemons I like are despised

[livid tulip]

As a person who was seeing double during a year due to a visual problem (which turned out to be simply astigmatism and eye strain ) I can feel the idea behind Dudunsparce was continue the joke about Tsuchinoko

People who thought that they saw a Tsuchinoko were actually confusing things they saw (like socks or rocks) possibly because visual problems, so maybe the idea behind Dudunsparce is to make it look like you're seeing a Dunsparce double

As if you were having an actual visual problem

[umbral sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-christian-bale-handsome-gif-13379950

[livid tulip]

I think joke designs still need a purpose to be jokes. If the joke cannot be explained, then yeah, I could feel that the design is bland. Same with any kind of design actually, all need to have a purpose to be like they are, not for the sole reason to fill a very global category

[livid tulip]

what do you mean by this

[umbral sedge]

I HATE DUDUNSPARCE AND I HATE EVERYONE THAT LIKES DUDUNSPARCE

NOBODY IS ALLOWED TO HAVE FUN EXCEPT MEEEE

[livid tulip]

I'm not saying the design is good or not, I'm just theorizing about the possible origin. It's not a very clear one unlike other Pokémon that I'm sure 100% in which they are based even with the differences between the Pokémon and the original concept

At least I prefer find an explanation of the designer work, or what they try to win with that design. If they would want they could make a different thing but they didn't, so there must be a reason

[umbral sedge]

I'm past the stage where I give Gamefreak the benefit of the doubt.

[livid tulip]

And I don't feel the laziness is one of them, precisely I feel that monster design is the only thing that attach us to this franchise due the obvious issues in their games

[umbral sedge]

Let's be honest though

A lot of the designs are just misses

The Flamingo for example

[subtle moss]

I think Dudunsparce is amazing just because it's so dumb

After all this time, that's what they do

it's fantastic

[livid tulip]

I cannot say that. I don't care about Flamigo at all, but I don't see how it differs if you compare it with any generic early route rat or dog

[umbral sedge]

Those suck too

[subtle moss]

some pokémon are just animals, always have been. there's gotta be less inspired ones to balance out the roster

[stuck hare]

not every pokemon can look like a legendary, if that were the case the legendaries wouldn't look cool enough

balance is important

[livid tulip]

Sounds like it's an archetype some people doesn't like and it's just there. There are archetypes I don't like too, but it doesn't mean that I can understand the reason to be there.
And yes, I would love to see Flamigo being more, in my opinion it had more potential

[umbral sedge]

That's not what I am saying would be good

[stuck hare]

I wasn't saying anything about your statement

[umbral sedge]

But LITERALLY copy pasting an animal is lazy as fuck

[stuck hare]

I was only replying to the person who said balance is important

[subtle moss]

hi I am person

[stuck hare]

yeah you

a person

[subtle moss]

This is my legacy

[livid tulip]

I think the idea of Flamigo was mix three concepts: flamingos, inflatable dolls, and punches. The knot in its neck to keep the air inside it and the circular shape of its body and wings make its entire body look like a boxing glove

That's why I think it's Fighting type

[teal grove]

Flamigo redesign contest when

[subtle moss]

give it a hat

[thick harness]

Yeah that's what the concept is supposed to read as; but they executed it so poorly most of those design aspects are completely lost

I actually think a lot of the generation nine pokémon are great; i'm definitely not a modern pokémon (design) hater; but there are also a lot of generation nine pokemon where their concepts are half-baked and rushed

it's pretty hit or miss for me

[livid tulip]

Yeah, again I'm not saying the design is better or not for this
All I can say is that it had a design process, and most important, probably it wasn't the designer who wanted to make it look like this but the game director or whoever was deciding which designs may pass or may not

[crisp cargo]

in the gen of hit or miss designs this was the biggest miss for me

actual second design i actively dislike

(the first is masquerain but it's not entirely the fault of masquerain on its own)

[thick harness]

masquerain's gen 3 though; unless you're just referring to designs in general

[teal grove]

Im curious about this

Since one of the only ones i hate is aromatisse

[livid tulip]

I know a case where the developer told the designer "give this girl more boobies" multiple times, even if the character already had enough. Maybe the designer was like "wtf but why"

[crisp cargo]

i mean overall in that design case

ok so my complaint about masquerain is related to the evo line as a whole

dude starts out as a water/bug water strider and the design is fucking great

so you're fully expecting it to evolve into a big bug/water menace

nope. bug/flying moth

actually just pisses me off

[teal grove]

Breaking news

[livid tulip]

Masquerain could had been Bug/Water with Levitate considering they did the same with Flygon in that exact gen

[teal grove]

Spriter finds out how real life animals work

[crisp cargo]

never seen a spider-like thing evolve into a moth

wait

do water striders do moth stuff

oh god damnit

i can't even be mad at it anymore 💀

still think it was a missed opportunity but at least araquanid gave us the bug/water fully evolved mon we deserved

[teal grove]

(And golisopod

[thick harness]

Yeah Araquanid is great; one of my favourite bug mons

[open hatch]

The real strength of Flamigo is during a SV maingame run, where instead of just "generic flamingo" it's "generic flamingo that's inexplicably available near the very start of the game despite its 500 BST sweeper build and squawks tauntingly at the enemy when it kills things"
really adds character to it, lol

[thick harness]

gen 7 actually gave us a lot of great bug mons huh

[teal grove]

Gen 7 and 5 were godly for bug mons

And then there was gen 6 with just vivillon. That’s it.

[crisp cargo]

anyways i'm moving to #spriter-general for this convo before blaq yells at me for being off topic

[teal grove]

Im also gonna go before blaq yells at me in general

[livid tulip]

And that's why I always say that it's better looking for info to understand the designs than getting mad

[summer nebula]

Gen 9 was plagued with mons that were a case of "cool idea, terrible execution"

[quartz locust]

@stuck hare @livid tulip @signal reef @dull mortar @teal grove, chill out. Let the contest play out first, because to disparage against sprites with x attribute is pushing Rule 7 quite a lot. 😮

@open hatch never mention which sprite you voted for, as that's even more of a violation of Rule 7. 😢

[open hatch]

I was talking about the "which should be the contest mon" vote, not the actual contest polls

[quartz locust]

Oh, that's fine then. You're off the hook. 😉

[open hatch]

whew, you scared me for a sec there 😓

[normal oyster]

[severe trout]

I leave for 24 hours

I just came here to say ‘damn there are so many space sfx, some of the contrast is really too low in some sprites’ and then got to read a novel on equal voting rights, human psychology, glitter rayquaza and Kant

Also at least one of the glitter rayquazas should absolutely be pinned

[thick atlas]

watch your language

[signal reef]

Should be the server's icon for April fool

[severe trout]

I don’t even know which word I’m in trouble for

[teal grove]

This one

Pin that one

[severe trout]

Also I’m gonna go suggest it in the suggestions channel but I wish there was a way to turn off voting DM’s like there is for Yanmega’s #sprite-gallery message

[late sequoia]

You can mute the bot in your DMs and it won't show up/ping you

[severe trout]

Ah interesting, I hadn’t considered muting

I forgot you could mute DM’s, it caused a few voting issues on mobile when I blocked the thing outright

[dull mortar]

apologies! didn't think that was pushing rule seven. I'll be more mindful in the future

[limber venture]

Contests Amiright

[silver merlin]

no you arent right

you are incorrect

[limber venture]

Youre are

[silver merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/death-note-light-yagami-writing-study-exams-gif-22300481

[dawn prairie]

Moral of the story, dudunsparce is the best pokemon ever made
A pokemon based primarily on trolling pokemon fans is the peak of the franchise

[plucky arch]

pokemon doesnt troll much

but when they do its golden

[severe trout]

Not only is the base design a troll, isn’t there a tiny chance it can be even longer

[umbral sedge]

2 more people getting banned

[teal grove]

LMAO banning people from amalgam for liking dudunsparce

[versed ridge]

✍️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[molten crater]

I wish we could have a bet wether the LC contest will be over before 2024

[fallow sorrel]

i just wish i knew what to do for contests because i never do

[dull mortar]

whatever feels right in your heart

[quartz locust]

I consider contests as more akin to Mergemay prompts than anything else. 🙂

[livid tulip]

Sorry about that. Maybe the situation got a little out of hand considering the bot issue in the last hours and that stuff and people, including me, got a little nervous. I'll be careful next time

[quartz locust]

The situation definitely got a little out of hand. I know that, for the most part, no malice was meant by it, but it still has an effect of swaying people either in your favour or the opposite way. 😅

[livid tulip]

Yeah, I mean, I don't want to hurt anyone, but it's true that maybe we were being rather chaotic yesterday
In any case this debate could be a good one after the contest results

[stuck hare]

Yeah, I’m sorry, by discussing some things that were happening in sprites, despite not mentioning any specific sprites, we were still disparaging people from voting on a specific type of sprite and may have influenced not only their voting, but probably also some people’s mood, as it might’ve felt like we were dissing their preferences and I sincerely apologise for that

[dull mortar]

yee

[normal oyster]

Imagine caring about contests

[wooden root]

It’s definitely a discussion that should happen at some point. Until then, the entries still look great!

I’m just here to make and look at silly little fused guys lol

[slow gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-universe-sardonyx-cry-for-help-greetings-good-evening-gif-19464678

Lots of messages

I would just say

Flamigo worse design ever, I hate that thing

[hearty horizon]

some of these i can’t tell what is even going on when the sprite is small

there’s just too much

[ashen sapphire]

okay but: flamigo is a funny guy
greedent is the real worst pokemon

[lone anchor]

i love flamigo for how bad it is

like they really made added that…

it’s horrible

[cloud solstice]

well jirachi is supposed to be small...

[hearty horizon]

no i’m talking about the big sprites

the ones that fill the whole space you can use

[cloud solstice]

ho okay my bad

[dawn prairie]

Peter griffin squirrel slander 😔

[lone anchor]

some of em are pretty heavy on the vfx

[cloud solstice]

what I found a bit sad is that dark/black sprites kind of fuse with discord's background (and pb the reverse in ligth mode) but it isn't anyone fault

[ashen sapphire]

controversial take but flamigo would have fit in pretty well among gen 2 pokemon and nobody would be calling it lazy or ugly if it'd been introduced then

[hearty horizon]

jirachi moment

[silver solar]

I’m not backreading whatever happened but i will say one thing

I voted for a jirachi sprite

[tepid reef]

I don't think it'd change anything

If it was itroduced in gen 2 everyone would just forgot about it

[summer nebula]

I think it would've still been ugly by gen II standards tbh, compare Flamigo to the other Gen II birds like Xatu or Noctowl

[tepid reef]

It's not really ugly tho

Leans more on the weird little guy methinks

[summer nebula]

i hate how smooth and simplified it is

[tepid reef]

It fits the concept

[summer nebula]

but this isn't contest-related, so probably the wrong place for it lmao

[tepid reef]

Honestly, I think a lot of Gen 9 mons follow a different philoshophy, where they look kind of off, unless you see them in action

[dull mortar]

its a punching bag :)

[tepid reef]

Same with the future paradox pokemon, where they seem uninspired, but I think the animations make up for it

[civic mauve]

I actually like Flamigo. It’s not my favorite or anything, and I probably would’ve preferred something more out there for it, but it’s fine. I think it’s got a cute concept, some personality, and its wings add a bit of complexity

On a related note Dunsparce and Dundunsparce are both perfect

[civic mauve]

I think the past paradox mons have better designs overall, but the future ones have grown on me and seeing them in action definitely helps

[wooden root]

BLESS 🙏 I thought I was the only Greedent hater

[livid tulip]

Imo past Paradoxes worked better as living beings and monster designs, while Future Paradoxes worked better in the story game.
I mean, The future Paradoxes that approach you in Violet are a broken mechanic penguin doll, a mechanic dragon and a cyborg, while the past Paradoxes that approach you are a Jigglypuff with hair and edgy mushroom/Misdreavus

[drifting wave]

WOAh I love Flamigo, it's one of my favorites from the new gen. Did you know it ties it's neck into a knot to keep the air in its body? That's what the bundle is at the base of its neck. In one of it's idle animations, it unties its neck and becomes twice as tall. It's a quirky lil non evolver, like a Shuckle, Sableye or Carnivine.

[wooden root]

Tbh I only really dislike a handful of Pokemon. Everything else I feel either indifferent or positive towards

[livid tulip]

I like both kind of designs, but I couldn't take seriously seeing Jigglypuff menacingly as the game wanted while paradox Delibird got me scared at the moment I saw the head does THAT

[drifting wave]

And I too was one of those "I WISH Dunsparce got a Mega/regional/evolution" for years, and I'm happy with Dundunsparse! Some of yall are just haters.

[silver merlin]

guys the worst pokemon is hoothoot purely because of how much ive encountered it in if

[livid tulip]

(I didn't read leaks so I didn't know about how the paradoxes looked like until I played the game)

[wooden root]

Zubat Syndrome

[silver solar]

I got leaked on brute bonnet but i gad violet anyway

So the only paradoxes i knew were the donphans

[wooden root]

I didn’t even know Paradoxes were a thing going into SV lol

[silver solar]

Well they showed off the pair of titan ones

Technically they also showed off paradox cyclizar but we didn’t know that’s what the legends were yet

[wooden root]

I only saw the very initial trailer with the starters and then I was like “guess I’m staying off the internet until these games come out” lol

[silver solar]

The future paradox are pretty disappointing tho since they’re mostly just pokemon but robot and their names suck

The past paradox have good names

[ashen sapphire]

dudunsparce is really funny and I'm only slightly disappointed because of the loss of potential for leaning into the tsuchinoko aspect, though I do still like it. that said if it had been a mega with that design it would have been the most flawless pokemon to ever exist

[wooden root]

I would find Dudunsparce funny if I didn’t hate GameFreak ngl

[livid tulip]

I didn't know the Donphans either, I just disconnected internet to not let anyone to spoil the game to me.

Pokémon community is a high ehh when you talk about respect in this matter

[silver solar]

I was hoping people would be respectful and keep spoilers in appropriate channels

[ashen sapphire]

also I spoiled myself on every pokemon design but none of the story, and I don't regret that

[fair citrus]

What if the three segment dudunsparce is actually dududunsparce

[silver solar]

The pokedex keeping track of different forms and even having different entries for them meant i had to hunt a 3 segment, and 2 real sinistea for living dex

[grand tusk]

thats what I did

I like to plan my team in advance

[livid tulip]

I remember that when I was talking about Duraludon in other community, theorizing that may be based on other kaiju someone told me "there's a leak that tells that there will be a Tyranitar based on Mecha Godzilla so maybe ur right" and I thought he was kidding because he perfectly knows that I don't want leaks.

Now I know that he tried to spoil on purpose 💀

[silver solar]

Sure do wish it was possible to actually see the damn authentication mark on wild ones, it’s hard even for a sinistea you own

[grand tusk]

I got yelled at for saying a spoiler here 3 months after the game came out

[ashen sapphire]

same! and I'm absolutely delighted with glimmora it's tied with mismagius for my favorite pokemon in all of pokemon

[silver solar]

I only plan in advance based on what we get shown

[grand tusk]

I wanted Mechagodzilla, Mothra and Battra on my team but discovered all paradox mons were end game

[ashen sapphire]

...I know it'd never be in infinite fusion but now I kinda want to sprite a glimmora/mismagius

[silver solar]

But also my team is half set with no wiggle room from the start

All starters, ive done that since i think black and white

[livid tulip]

I don't prepare my team in advance, I make my team while I'm playing. I think it's funnier this way and let me play with multlple Pokémon instead of just search an specific 6 and not change it ever again

[grand tusk]

I still switched mine around, since my final team was so far into the endgame

[thin dove]

i need to get S/V at some point but i'm a bit put off by the gutting of natdex and a lot of the new pokemon designs....exist

some are eh

some are good

some are good designs but not good pokemon

[silver solar]

I play with whatever while i wait to get what i was planning to use but other than those 3, the rest of my planned team could be completely different

[grand tusk]

such as

[silver solar]

I was gonna use ceruledge but then that would be too much type overlap

ignore the fact that I had a mabosstiff instead

I just fell in love with the pup while using run away

[grand tusk]

Totodile bolted before answering the question 😔

[thin dove]

was getting food

lechonk is ok

it's not bad

it's a serviceable normal type

cutiefly is ok

[grand tusk]

cutiefly isn't SV

thats sun moon

[thin dove]

ah i fucked up the gens again

smoliv is....eh

[silver solar]

Its time for me to bolt too, eyes heavy. Nap time.
Also my team ended up having clodsire and baxcalibur as the final two members

[dull mortar]

Kill

[thin dove]

the final evo looks kinda cool tho

[livid tulip]

Unfortunately I knew a lot of people like this on Pokémon communities, and people that did worse things to me, so I don't hold the Pokémon community in high regard 🥲

[ashen sapphire]

smoliv line is cute I like them all

[dull mortar]

kill...............

I think a lot of people are like that regardless because. idk they think they're cool for it

[grand tusk]

spoiler alert ||made you look bozo||

[dull mortar]

I haven't used smolliv and I want to use bramblin in my second run through but I haven't continued that

[thin dove]

the dolphin evolving into "the same goddamn thing but with a heart on it" is annoying

[dull mortar]

my original starter was meowscarada so I didn't want to have another grass type......

[thin dove]

and pokemon that can essentially be classified as objectheads don't feel like pokemon to me

like the pokemon that's literally a penguin with a brick of ice for a head

fine design. not a pokemon design

[dull mortar]

eiscue funny

[thin dove]

same with the bread dog. design is nice, even charming, but it's not really a pokemon

it feels like a closed species i'd find on deviantart

[civic mauve]

I personally thought it was hilarious, plus the secret identity gimmick is pretty fun, but I get why folks don’t like it

[thin dove]

haven't played around with it enough to know the secret identity gimmick all too well so there might be something i'm missing
but visually that kind of joke worked once with dudunsparce and then it just sort of doesn't

(back to contests. i really enjoyed the big discussion between parties on the contest and the memes/critique of the metas in play, that was really interesting and i hope that happens more often)

and then there's designs where i mentally slap the "i don't even think you tried at all" sticker on it

like toucannon

come on that is literally just a toucan with no big visual differences

[dull mortar]

toucannon my friend

fairly sure they stayed on my team

[cloud solstice]

toucannon shiny is top tier tho

[thin dove]

simpler bird designs like chatot still had some accents to showcase a bit more of the pokemon style

[dull mortar]

hard to remember I had two cats for sure though

[cloud solstice]

I liked how the beak would ligth up when attacking

[civic mauve]

Marking it as a spoiler to be safe, but if you want to know what the gimmick is ||it’s pretending to still be its un-evolved form, just a perfectly normal law-abiding Finizen, nothing to see here folks. But if you swap it out and then send it back in it changes into a superhero||

I think of Dundunsparce as both a funny meme but also a callback to things like Dugtrio and Magneton. Plus it’s nice for the folks who liked Dunsparce just as the goofy not-so-little guy it already was

[fringe mica]

its happening

yoooo

[fringe mica]

oh boy i hope theres calamity mod fans in here

[livid tulip]

I think the cannon peak with the "charging colors" animation is fun

[fringe mica]

well that kinda proved ot be the case because of the deoxys comp

i gotta say my competition isnt too bad

is this still rule 7

[civic mauve]

I like Toucannon but I also get why folks don’t

[fringe mica]

probably

waht toucannon

seems like a genesect fusion idea

[lapis dust]

It was a neat design and idea.

[dull mortar]

ohhhhh thats why thats its name

[daring mauve]

Honestly I love that Toucannon is "a Toucan but pissed" 😂

[dull mortar]

toucan with gun

[lapis dust]

Birdie laser beam.

[civic mauve]

Yep, I decided to phrase it that way specifically because I didn’t get it the first time I heard it either ^^

[dull mortar]

its cute u_u

[fringe mica]

whats the toucannon

[dull mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/toucannon-rotom-angry-fever-pokemon-gif-13759132316560314799

bird what isn't even a fire type

[civic mauve]

I don’t think there’s any Pokémon I actively dislike. There’s a few I don’t particularly like the color schemes for but shiny’s are a thing

[lapis dust]

I kind of wish we had toucannon in this. It would make for great fusion head material with those colors.

[sly hatch]

I mean there was a fire flying route 1 bird the gen before

[dull mortar]

bird who lived in my party to warm eggs......

bird who made shiny chespin possible

[normal oyster]

When shiny

It’s the bi bird

[fringe mica]

i dislike ledyba and thats about it

dude just screams im cute but really its the most pathetic puntable little piece of shit in arceus's ass

[dull mortar]

I pat his face

[civic mauve]

I’ve recently become a big Ledyba fan actually just because of its potential for fusions xD I have a ton of ideas for Ledyba head fusions that I keep meaning to work on ^^

[fringe mica]

no problem with that

[civic mauve]

Same here, I just thought it was funny 😁

[sly hatch]

I don't even particularly like lanturn but an anglerfish is just neat to incorporate into fusions

[fringe mica]

same reason on why genesect grew on me

fusion get sgun

end of sentence

[civic mauve]

I’d been trying to figure out which Pokémon I’ve enjoyed spriting w/ the most and was surprised when I realized Ledyba was so high up there and that it had actually improved my opinion on the Pokémon itself

[fringe mica]

genesect was like a top 10 before

now its like a top 3

[civic mauve]

I was pretty neutral on Ledyba before, but it’s actually really grown on me

[sly hatch]

anyone keeping up with my sprites will notice the fox pokemon bias

[scarlet shoal]

bug

[subtle moss]

having a bug grow on you can't be healthy

[ashen sapphire]

at least it's not parasect, growing mushroom bugs on you would be even less healthy

[grand tusk]

says who

symbiotic relationship between me and the shrooms dudes

[crisp cargo]

how long do the polls run again

oh nvm i can't read

[lone anchor]

what exactly are the polls for? do the ones that win their respective group get added to the game?

[broken robin]

It’s a contest for fame and a role

They’re all probably going in the game

[drifting wave]

I'm pretty sure all sprite entries get added tot he game. I think the polls are level brackets to pick a winner

[cloud solstice]

there are sprites in the contest which won't be in the game, the sprites will be added in the games if they are added to #sprite-gallery

[subtle moss]

I was gonna wait till after the contest to even get into that.

[sly gorge]

8 more minutes and I get to see if people liked my entr- I mean to see the results

[molten crater]

voters are voters, not people

[sly gorge]

ok

[thick atlas]

you wont see if people liked your sprite. you see how many liked yours more than any other in that group.

[sly gorge]

same idea

[thick atlas]

not quite

[scarlet shoal]

both of mine are probably out

[sly gorge]

do yours have sfx?

[vestal silo]

https://tenor.com/view/stitch-book-throw-gif-4947351

[summer nebula]

the results are in

both mine went out, darn

[limber venture]

Time to gather the results

[hazy chasm]

one of mine got out but one is still in the competition

[civic mauve]

I think both of mine passed? 2/3 both go to quarters right?

[limber venture]

1st goes to semis, 2nd and 3rd go to quarters

[tranquil fable]

Same

[thick harness]

Before the inevitable... discussion begins, I want to say well done to everyone! You should all be proud no matter whether your sprites move on or not, since they were all incredible sprites

[tranquil fable]

One of mine got 4th place

[limber venture]

Finding the sprites in my folder by eye is so hard because they're all just blue blobs

[thick harness]

I did notice that for this contest more than any other i've seen so far a lot of the entries did blend together colour/shape wise

[limber venture]

jesus getting all the results for the one billion polls is gonna be miserable

[normal oyster]

[normal oyster]

Reasons to not become sprite manager

[wooden root]

Mine made it through??????

Holy-

Well I know I stand zero chance in quarters, so I’m considering this my own personal victory LOL

[daring mauve]

Only 1st - 3rd advance on to new brackets right?

[limber venture]

Yes

[daring mauve]

Dang so close, 4th in my grouping 😅
Good luck to all the others, so many great sprites in this contest 💛

[thin dove]

0th placement again, yeah babyyyyyyy

[drifting wave]

someone else voted for mine, thank you whoever you are

[livid tulip]

Yipee, I lost in 5th

[vestal silo]

1 of mine made it through yay

[daring mauve]

Yours was a Top 3 out of all of the entries for me, was shocked to see that. Still, I love the sprite you made 🙂

[civic mauve]

There were a few that lost by only 1 or 2 votes which always sucks

[sly gorge]

one of mine got 5th place

zamn..

anyway i'm out so I'm legally allowed to reveal which ones were mine

[livid tulip]

Thanks!! Though not shocked to me at all

[drifting wave]

wait is that true?

[livid tulip]

But I'm glad you liked it!

[sly gorge]

yeah if you get knocked out you get to talk about your entry i think

anyway this one only got 5% of the votes in the other bracket I should've went for something more than fucking Sandy Shocks

[thin dove]

wait somebody else voted for my sprite who did that

[drifting wave]

hey I really liked this one too

[civic mauve]

I loved this one actually ^^

[cloud solstice]

just bc you didn't make it doesn't mean your sprite is bad

[sly gorge]

erm the voters said otherwise

but im glad they at least got to the gallery

[wooden root]

Wait the Sandy Shocks was yours??? I love that guy!!

[sly gorge]

mhm

[cloud solstice]

no that mean that they preferred another

[sly gorge]

i know I was joking

[dawn prairie]

The Sandy Shocks was cool

[twin otter]

I expected to get like maybe 6 votes on mine but I got 5th and was only 11 votes off of 3rd so I am very proud of myself. I hope everyone else who didn't place is also proud of there work cause they are all amazing sprites. Now lets keep supporting those who are on their way forward (with minimal malice in our hearts, but a little is ok 😉 )

[cloud solstice]

anyway more paradox forms are always a good thing

[thin dove]

oh this one was cute

[sly gorge]

mine that got 5th place had 36 votes I was off by 20 to get to 3rd place

[dawn prairie]

Both of mine are out too
This one got like 5% of the votes at least

It was funny how there were 3 jirachi mr mimes for the contest
Star clown nation

[drifting wave]

I gave this one a little sparkle because I saw "sfx were allowed" and I had absolutely zero context on the baggage of that ruling lmao

[sly gorge]

oh this one was solid I voted for that

[thin dove]

this amount of SFX is fine

[drifting wave]

thanks lol

[civic mauve]

But yeah some of the brackets were super close but then others ended up being pretty far apart (like the one where the winner got over 50%)

[thin dove]

what people get antsy over is when over 50% of the sprite is SFX city

[drifting wave]

for sure, I understand that now

[sly gorge]

although I do find it funny that my entry lost to the other Zoroark/Jirachi fusion

but I included giygas SFX so that got some eyes on it

[daring mauve]

I loved this one! Its so cute!

[summer nebula]

since I went out I can post mine, rip my two guys, too pure for this world

[wooden root]

I love this lil guy!!

[twin otter]

your first one was in my like top 10 of the competition, i was so suprissed that it didnt move on

[sly gorge]

the first one's the most uncanny jirachi fusion I've ever seen

[sly gorge]

it didn't cause no sparkly sfx

[wooden root]

Your second one is so cute, it’s honestly one of my personal favorites from this contest 🥹

[livid tulip]

At least I got 48 votes that are quite good number of votes even for a 5th place

[daring mauve]

This was mine, glad I was able to get some Hypno rep in this contest, and I had so much fun making it! Thank you to everyone who voted for it 💛

[sly gorge]

another one that I voted for

[severe epoch]

I used sfx as if my mons were using a move in battle, but I can see how that isn't popular after seeing yesterday's chat...

[civic mauve]

I really loved the first one, it’s delightfully upsetting (the second one is very fun too, I loved the second face)

[livid tulip]

Thanks!

[civic mauve]

What was the body for the first one btw?

[daring mauve]

All the ones posted above didn't get 1st-3rd so they're not moving forward in the contest

But still very great sprites!

[summer nebula]

Fearow, it's hard to tell mostly because Ho-oh and Fearow share so much in common if you don't add the beak

[daring mauve]

Could really feel all the love people put into these 🙂

[sly gorge]

I'm sorry but that doesn't look like Fearow at all lmfao

[civic mauve]

Yeah I think for this contest you needed to either go all out on sfx or do as little as possible since those seem to be the two different voting blocs

[sly gorge]

I thought it was some goofy ahh Toxapex

[civic mauve]

I had guessed Fearrow, but only because I remembered someone was planning on doing one and I could kind of see it once I was looking for it

This one was cute, I thought the bubbles worked surprisingly well too

[civic mauve]

This one was quite nicely done, is it Nosepass or Probopass?

[civic mauve]

I loved what you did w/ the accessory (sorry I’m not sure what it’s called ^^;) It’s hard to make Hypno cute (for me at least), but I think you pulled it off

[late sequoia]

These were my two, though I thought of a better pose today for the Latios one that wouldn't use sfx (which the one I did was based on a Jirachi V tcg card).

[daring mauve]

Thank you 💛 Hypno is my favorite and super cute to me so I love making cute fusions with it 😄

[civic mauve]

I think I didn’t but it was one of the ones I was going back and forth between iirc ^^

[livid tulip]

Probopass. In case of Nosepass I would do it smaller and give it legs and arms

[leaden jungle]

.Didn'pass: It's over.
.21 votes: WE NEVER LEFT.

[civic mauve]

I thought it was Probopass but the lack of facial hair or the extra floaty bits made me doubt myself ^^;

[livid tulip]

I try to be creative with the facial hair in my Probos. In this case I used Jirachi's cape painted as blue and give it as moustache

[subtle moss]

I didn't get a lot of votes, which is to be expected since mine weren't as high effort as most of the entries

[livid tulip]

The mini-noses on the other hand were changed by more tags (that's why there are two tags with the 0's the mininoses have) and the third one is basically the star

[subtle moss]

Nice that I got a handful though

[limber venture]

As soon as this contest is over I am going to ping every contest manager and have a long discussion once they stop GHOSTING ME

[wind matrix]

Poor Rezza

[livid tulip]

We love you Rezza, keep up the good work

[summer nebula]

(he is going to pour glitter down their throats until they vomit)

[civic mauve]

SFX aren’t inherently bad imo (tho I know some folks probably disagree w/ me), and I actually really like the ones you used for both since I think it adds something. I really like the way they each have a completely different feel to them even tho the designs are quite similar. They’re personalities read really well!

[wooden root]

We appreciate you Rezza!!

[limber venture]

If you guys appreciated me you would stop submitting entries for contests so I never have to do this again

[wooden root]

I guess contests are cancelled forever then

[limber venture]

Nearly done getting the entries together

[late sequoia]

Yeah exactly, I understand the viewpoint they are from and was just trying to find a way to make Latios' intensity come though. Thinking about it more I'd probably could have had it with its back semi-turn looking at the opponent over its sholder with arms crossed.

[livid tulip]

Based

Only Mergemay

And "prompt" challenges or things like that

About my opinion about all this, I think I'll prepare an essay to post when the day comes

[warm blaze]

where do we see results?

[thin dove]

contest-polls

[limber venture]

It's hidden because I'm making the new polls

[tepid reef]

Damn, didn't get to see the results yet

[acoustic light]

I'm gathering all these essays you people keep talking about and putting them in a book together as a contest manifesto and selling it on the deep web for 5 quid

[open hatch]

nice, all but two of my r1 votes advanced!
(hopefully it's allowed to say that much if I don't go into specifics about it...?)

[wooden root]

I’ll plagiarize it and use it for my Ph.D dissertation

[crisp cargo]

pretty positive i didn't make it through

i didn't even see votes i'm just very aware that early votes were 300% not in my favour

[hazy chasm]

you never know

[wooden root]

(Making Pokemon sprites is a valid PhD research project right??)

[crisp cargo]

it'd take a miracle

mine had like 3 or so votes total, combined

compared to the 20s on a couple of others

there's no shot i wasn't like last

[warm blaze]

I want a piece of that miracle

[thin dove]

you joke but i think people probably did do dissertations on pokemon sprites before

[wooden root]

You’re probably right lol

[hazy chasm]

i use the waffle power to transfer votes

[warm blaze]

Honestly not sure that my second one didnt get 0 XD

[crisp cargo]

6% and 1% respectively

at least the ninjask did decent i guess

[open hatch]

Huh, I'm not seeing the new polls yet? are they in a different channel than before or smth

[hazy chasm]

where are they?

[limber venture]

refresh discord

[plush vale]

aw two I like are in the same poll

[hazy chasm]

oof

[plush vale]

rip ||redacted||

[hazy chasm]

i got put up against sprites that are so much better sprites than mine😭

[nocturne lion]

voted, good luck everyone! these are some amazing sprites!

[hazy chasm]

voted

[open hatch]

voted!

[wooden root]

Good luck everyone!!

[tepid reef]

Damn, me when I look at the sprites that got through and I'm just very confused

[civic mauve]

Are we missing one? I’m not seeing one that should’ve been in quarters

[stuck hare]

heya guys

I dunno if it's just me

but this guy made it through to this round

looking at the polls

but I don't see him

[wind matrix]

I didn't submit one

[stuck hare]

in the new polls

[dawn prairie]

If they win the first polls they skip quarters

[fleet crown]

Oh, dang, he is missing.

[acoustic light]

If that sprite got first in the last poll it skips a round

[stuck hare]

ohhh

okay

sorry

[stuck hare]

I actually voted for yours

[civic mauve]

||Entei/Jirachi|| got second in its poll but it isn’t here

[stuck hare]

they were some of my favorites, I really like the texture on em

[limber venture]

how have i managed that

i literally remember adding it to the folder

[wary crag]

Wait so winner of the firdt brackets went to semis

How many went to quarters?

[limber venture]

Tbh I don't actually know what I'm meant to do when I miss a sprite

[misty acorn]

delete all evidence of this contest ever existing

[wary crag]

How many tho

[civic mauve]

It looks like 2 are missing

[limber venture]

In that case I'll just redo the whole thing

[stuck hare]

probably for the best in that case

[warm blaze]

a bunch of my favs were in one category XD The place favourites go to die

[limber venture]

What else was missing?

[stuck hare]

though it might cause confusion and some people to forget to vote

[civic mauve]

By my count there should be 28 entries and there are 26 up now (I could be wrong tho, I’m bad at math

[grand tusk]

can't you just delete the last poll and slap the 2 missing onto it?

[wary crag]

Mine was in top 4, not sure if that means it was supposed to move on or not

[grand tusk]

rather then redo it all

[limber venture]

It wouldn't be fair

[grand tusk]

welp

life isn't fair I suppose?

[severe epoch]

seems right

[civic mauve]

It shouldn’t have

[wary crag]

Oh well we were close

[wooden root]

Make a poll between the two missing ones??

Maybe??

[limber venture]

Help me figure out what's missing

[grand tusk]

the ultimate 1v1

[warm blaze]

Auto put the 2 missing ones into next round so they get a fair chance to get voted on?

[limber venture]

I'm literally just gonna remake the polls

I already said this

[warm blaze]

oh woops

[wary crag]

I was in the not-so-elite four

[civic mauve]

Entei/Jirachi is one

[limber venture]

It's been like 5 minutes since they were opened so it doesn't matter much

I just need to find what's missing

[open hatch]

That's 27 sprites in the pic, from this post one should be missing still? idk

[wooden root]

Name drops

[limber venture]

Yes

We know that

We don't know which sprite

[open hatch]

Oh nvm

[limber venture]

You can literally just check the drive to see the names

[wooden root]

Oh, whoops, I didn’t realize the drive link was still there lol

Sorry

[open hatch]

So entei is the one that's in the folder but not added, and then there's one not in the folder
am I understanding right

[limber venture]

The channel is open again if you guys want to help me figure it out

I wish the bar graphs that the bot makes weren't so USELESS btw

They don't use 90% of their fucking space

[hazy chasm]

lol

[severe epoch]

hydreigon/jirachi?

[open hatch]

OH yeah that is it I think
second place in its poll

[limber venture]

FFS you're right, which pisses me off, because I remember thinking to myself "both of husk's sprites got to the quarters that's funny" and then somehow the sprite isn't in the fuckin quarters folder

[misty acorn]

funky

[wooden root]

We still love and appreciate you, Rezza!!

[wary crag]

B1 from 6th poll

Is missing

@limber venture

[limber venture]

No it isn't, read #event-announcements

[wary crag]

Oh mb

Oops

[plush vale]

now it's not in with one of others I like most but is in with something else that'll prob obliterate it

[hoary mirage]

I cannot find them ;-;

[surreal folio]

I didnt make i through the first round

[limber venture]

refresh discord

[hoary mirage]

Where would they be?

[plush vale]

check votes, top stuff skips a round

#contest-polls

[surreal folio]

unless mine was so good it was sent forward probably not tho TT

[thin dove]

oh god new polls screwed up all of my favorites ;_;

[hoary mirage]

Thanks! I just couldn’t find them, not that I couldn’t see them

[heady sage]

@whoeverrunsthepolls, it might be good to send the Ping out after the poll has been up for a while to let the anonymous voting kick in.

[limber venture]

That isn't how it works

It just can't handle the amount of people that vote at once no matter what

It needs time to catch up once people start voting

[heady sage]

Oh, I thought it needed time to initialize

[warm blaze]

It would spread it out a little but probably not that much

[grand tusk]

it kinda needs time to do anything, like an old man with a bad knee

the polls hobble along their merry way

[stuck hare]

<3

[icy wing]

So this is my first time voting in a contest and I'm a bit confused. What happened to the submissions like Jirachi+Volcarona that got like 25% of the vote, where'd they go?

[wooden root]

Sprites that get first place in the prelims skip quarters and go straight to semis

So we’ll see them in the next round of voting

[icy wing]

That's what I figured but just wanted to make sure. Appreciate it!

[civic mauve]

Did we ever get a count of the number of bodies vs heads in the tournament? I remember early on folks thought that no one would do them but we actually got quite a few right?

Also curious about how they’re going to fare during the rest of the contest, it’d be interesting to see how well they did overall once it’s over

[hazy chasm]

no one would do what

heads?

[molten vector]

One of mine got first and I'm so surprised about that, but this little guy got 4th, I'm so proud how they came out ❤️

[severe epoch]

I think there was a bias for heads > bodies, I counted early on, and now it's ~79 for bodies

[subtle moss]

are we allowed to discuss this stuff

[stuck hare]

as long as it's out of the contest

[molten vector]

only if the sprite in question is out of the competition

[stuck hare]

but no in competition ones

that's rule breaking

and I don't wanna get scolded again :(

though if necessary, I am willing to bring Kant up again

also

if unnecessary as well

[wooden root]

This sweet lil guy is absolutely beyond adorable!! 🥹

I also LOVE your pfp!

[molten vector]

Thank you!! ^^

[daring mauve]

Such a cutie! I always love how adorable your sprites tend to come out!

[molten vector]

oh wow I didn't realize people remember and recognize me and my stuff, that's wild. Thank you so much

[civic mauve]

I love the expressions on each head and the design is super cute

[civic mauve]

I actually decided to do a count just now (ended up doing it based off of the entries in contest polls because I forgot the drive was still open)

For the prelims I counted 117 bodies, 84 heads, and 2 I wasn’t sure about (Kirby and the one w/ both Cubone and Jirachi)

For this round I counted 22 heads and 6 bodies, or 29 heads and 13 bodies if we count the ones that skipped this round since there were 7 heads and 7 bodies

[tranquil fable]

Fs in the chat for them :(

[hazy chasm]

f

[limber venture]

I just found out the arceus/jirachi isn't even jirachi anymore. The spriter changed it to arceus/arceus and updated it in the drive with the new arceus/arceus design even though this is a jirachi contest

[open hatch]

oh boy, another repoll incoming...?!

[limber venture]

Nah, I'm just gonna exclude it from the semis

It sucks that some people will waste their vote but I'm not fcking repolling again

[civic mauve]

f

[civic mauve]

I really like the way you rendered the stars, particularly for Litwik

[tranquil fable]

Thanks

[civic mauve]

Is there any way to change your vote after you place it?

I don’t think I voted for it this round, but I’m guessing it’s probably gotten at least a few votes by this point

[limber venture]

I think if you just react again it updates

[civic mauve]

Oh, I just remembered that the bot messages you what you voted for. So if anyone else doesn’t remember you can check that way (it should be the 3rd poll from the top in the latest batch, and the Arceus/Arceus was F: B3)

Haven’t tested whether reacting again changes your vote tho ^^;

[open hatch]

The bot messages have the poll ID in them, so you can use that to check which vote was which

[bleak flint]

are we allowed to talk about our sprites if they are already out of the running?

[blissful kindle]

Yes

Like

I LOOOOOOOST

[bleak flint]

Okay than, this is my son, he only got 2 votes, but thats okay because I am new to this and he is just happy to be here. Please make sure the other fusions dont pick on him :D

[primal maple]

same ! but I don't really mind

[thin dove]

he can be buddies with my son (or my daughter)

[primal maple]

awww he's adorable!!

Here's my baby

[bleak flint]

thanks, i was trying to go for a circus monkey thing idk

Also please dont feed him penuts he is allergic

[primal maple]

I'll keep that in mind :3

[dull mortar]

cuties.......

[plush vale]

remember to count hydreigon entries three times for heads

[fair citrus]

gymnastic sons

[thorny nimbus]

lol, I made the 2nd one first, but then I realized it wasn't that readable as Bisharp

so I made the other one

[fair citrus]

theyre very nice

this is my son, big boy

[plucky arch]

1 vote baby lets fuckin goooooooo

[fast delta]

One of these is still in the contest though.

[dull mortar]

my mulched child

[drifting wave]

(pst, one of your children are still in the tournament, so I think that means you can't post about them here...?)

[fast delta]

I loved all the personality you fit into their tiny face.

[dull mortar]

🥹 thank........ I'm very proud of them

[fair citrus]

id pet him (then get electrocuted)

[dull mortar]

or bit

[fair citrus]

ill take being bit

[dull mortar]

hehe

I would too

[fast delta]

One of my favorites didn't make it past the first round, which was Krookodile/Jirachi. I thought the gambling theme was really clever for that fusion, and the cards/roulette wheel motif were great choices.

[thick jolt]

yess i agree so much!!

[fair citrus]

i js searched but damn thats pretty cool

clever design

[thorny nimbus]

oh I thought I'd loose for sure

mb

[thorny nimbus]

sorry!

[fair citrus]

shoutout to the person for matching the hearts to krookodile/jirachi's colors

clever indeed

[hazy chasm]

Heres mine nicly it had 13 votes

[fair citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/rosalina-helltaker-helltaker-rosalina-gif-24158459

[plucky arch]

ive got my favourites all picked out, sadly Most of mine got knocked out already

[hazy chasm]

sadness

[primal obsidian]

ahh this little guy of mine didn't make it past the first round but I had a lot of fun designing it, and I'm still quite proud! cheers to everyone who joined :]

[winged plaza]

congrats everyone who made it the second round!!

[thin dove]

your Jirachifree was very nice, i liked the look of almost stained-glass on the wings

[fading fiber]

If it makes u feel better, I voted for urs :3

[primal obsidian]

Aw thank you 🥺

[plush vale]

oh yeah that one was great

[nocturne lion]

I love this stained glass design on the wings, really beautiful work!

[wary crag]

Ty to the peeps that voted for my sprite btw, got fourth on the first round which I consider a good shot for my first contest

Look forward to doing more!

[nocturne lion]

she looks so proud of her little star baby

[fading fiber]

do competition sprites get added into the game automatically or do they still have to be submitted normally?

[timid shore]

it's up to the spriter themselves if they want to submit it to #sprite-gallery for it to count in the game

me for example im not gonna submit my entry lol

im glad it got more votes than I ever expected but im not as fond of it as i was before voting started. (it's already voted out i can say this)

[fading fiber]

im glad cus i made mine in one night and looking at it now i wanna fix it up a bit

[timid shore]

yeah improving on it a bit more before going through the #1050404143807873157 song-and-dance again is also a thing!

since everyone's posting tho, here's mine

[fading fiber]

i plopped it in spritework before posting and someone made fun of the fact me and everyone just adds galaxies

oh hes cute!

[timid shore]

they do have a point tho, dont know if you are here for the discussion earlier on but it's a whole thing. contest tend to get sfx-heavy

[wary crag]

She is quite proud 😊

[fading fiber]

Ohh I thot sfx was like animation haha

Ya mine has some stars outside, but that's the part i don't like about it. I was rushing to get it done

When I submit it to the game, no sfx ❌

[grand tusk]

SFX stands for Street Fighter X, because too many people made Street Fighter 10 related references in a contest

[primal maple]

for a while I thought sfx were sound effects

[grand tusk]

no thats just se

not to be confused with SE, which is a direction

[timid shore]

it can stand for both, since it's Sound Effect vs Special Effect. context usually helps tho

[primal maple]

that makes sense, but sound effects where the only thing that came to mind for sfx at the time

[primal maple]

yeah context really helps

[grand tusk]

no wait dont actually believe me

I just spout BS

[fringe mica]

did i win

[grim patrol]

The sprite i made! This was a really fun contest!
I got voted out the first round but that’s ok! I’m just here do make a cool Glaceon. Thanks to anyone who voted for me!

[fringe mica]

very nice !!

is this rule 7

[fading fiber]

not to flex 💪 💪 💪 but um i did ok 🙂

ngl kinda want this to win, hes my fav

[fringe mica]

NOOOO THE GENESECT LOST

@icy jasper this is a sad day for the genesect team

[icy jasper]

F