event-general

[grand tusk]

gen 3 starters were nice to us by making middle evo's so good

[vivid sonnet]

The Miltank one made my jaw drop for the wrong reason 😹

[storm grotto]

One of them is good, other one is meh, and the last one is ugly and has a questionable shape

[grand tusk]

grovyle rules, marshstomp rules, combusken is cute but fine I can accept people not liking it

[storm grotto]

Marshtomp had a rough transition to 3D

[raven carbon]

No, you see Combusken was the prototype so Miraidon could exist later

[storm grotto]

I hate when Miraidon looks flacid...

[grand tusk]

I don't care, I will not accept slander to my boy

[storm grotto]

Maybe he's not that meh, he's just stuck between Mudkip and Swampert

[grand tusk]

that's fair

[raven carbon]

Marshtomp is the weakest in the line minus Mega Swampert

[grand tusk]

I admit extra bias for having a marshstomp figure as a kid, but I will not allow him to be called bad

[raven carbon]

I also had a marshtomp figurine
And a chespin figurine
And a Banette figurine

[grand tusk]

I had this fella

I still have it, though it did lose the tail fins

[raven carbon]

I had one with movable arms!

[grand tusk]

this one?

[raven carbon]

Yep!

[grand tusk]

my one was cooler

[storm grotto]

How did this evolve into Marshtomp's figurine collection?

[vivid sonnet]

Middle evo slander

[raven carbon]

It's the natural progression of all things

[storm grotto]

In my top ten 3 of them are middle evos, so that's fair

[raven carbon]

What's your favorite pokemon?

[storm grotto]

The three middle evos I talk about are Hattrem, Sliggoo and Clefairy, the weirdest trio I know

[vivid sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/allow-us-to-introduce-ourselves-veggietales-veggie-larry-the-cucumber-bob-the-tomato-gif-21074601

[raven carbon]

OH I FOEGOT THAT CLEFAIRY WAS A MIDDLE EVO FOR A SEC

[storm grotto]

The cleffa slander

Is kinda funny to think the most profitable Pokemon is a middle evo

[raven carbon]

That is true

When we all know that the face of pokemon should have been porygon smh

[storm grotto]

The less normal of the normal types

[raven carbon]

How dare you insult porygon

Ill have you know that I named a mii after it and he married my mom

Porygon is my father in law

[storm grotto]

I don't know why not being normal in a fantasy world is an insult?

Like, it's just that I still don't get why he's a normal type

[vivid sonnet]

Porygon-Z is probably my favorite normal type Pokemon precisely because they're a weird little guy

[grand tusk]

I can switch back to my previous arguement if you want

[storm grotto]

No thanks 🙏

[grand tusk]

😔

[vivid sonnet]

We could just not argue

[grand tusk]

What did I do wrong, I mean what specifically

👎 ⭐

now its a reference

[storm grotto]

We can just not go back ^^

[raven carbon]

Oh yeah it was satire

Idek either, ask that one youtuber with the "NOT DRAGON!?!?" clickbait thumbnails

[vivid sonnet]

Oohhhh, reference just clicked

Lmao

[grand tusk]

eeyy

say it but spoiler tag it

[vivid sonnet]

||Big Jack Horner||

[grand tusk]

you got it, he's my role model in life

[storm grotto]

Rename Normal type to Neutral type, and we can have more Pokemon with no assocation with anything that are not "normal"

[vivid sonnet]

Fossil Fighters called it Neutral

[storm grotto]

I don't get the reference, but I believe you

[storm grotto]

Fossil Fighters goated as usual

[vivid sonnet]

[grand tusk]

average fossil fighters W

except the third game but it doesn't count

[vivid sonnet]

It's so sad Fossil Fighters ended at Champions

[grand tusk]

im so sad it ended at 2010 with champions and nothing came about it after

[raven carbon]

What is fossil fighters

I feel like an outcast in this conversation

[vivid sonnet]

DS viddygame series about reviving and battling dinosaurs and other fossil critters

Plan on having an extended Fossil Fighters reference in my Pokemon Essentials game

[limber venture]

is fossil fighters the one where you like basically played rock paper scissors and there were like phoneboxes you could fight

or am i thinking of something else

[vivid sonnet]

That sounds like something else

[storm grotto]

That's Dinosaur King

[limber venture]

no im thinking of Battle of Giants: Dinosaurs

this game is fucked up bruh

[storm grotto]

How many Dinosaur games for the DS have Rock Paper Scissors mechanics?????

What specific trend is that???

[limber venture]

this game is so awesome

[grand tusk]

Dinosaur King is what you wanna be yeah

[raven carbon]

A new niche has been discovered!

[grand tusk]

make your move come on make your move

dinosaur king is your destiny yeah

[limber venture]

i need to play battle of giants: dinosaurs

[storm grotto]

I am making a dinosaur king reference in a fusion probably

[grand tusk]

or play dinosaur king, I mean think about it, control your cards right in your hand
Jurassic giants at your command!

[limber venture]

battle of giants: dinosaurs is the best one because you can fight a phonebox

[vivid sonnet]

Weirdly never got into Dinosaur King, probably just cause I never heard of it until recently

[storm grotto]

I feel like I played that one like a long time ago, but is such a distant memory

[odd garnet]

You want Nostalgic Dinosaur DS games?
Here are what I played LOL

[raven carbon]

^^ same here

[limber venture]

this is from battle of giants: dragons but its the same phonebox

[grand tusk]

what nasty games have led you astray

[limber venture]

you can just fight it for some reason

[grand tusk]

THE DRAGON

[odd garnet]

Oh you fight more than just a Phonebooth xD

[storm grotto]

How many Dinosaur Games are there for the DS?????

[grand tusk]

PHON-

[odd garnet]

Fossil Fighters

[grand tusk]

why aren't there more dinosaur games for the switch really

[storm grotto]

It's this like the early 2000s and the Zombies?

[raven carbon]

Nintendo is not very picky on what games go on their systens

[storm grotto]

Was there a trend that I missed?

[grand tusk]

picky??

these are dinosaur games

these are all good obviously

[odd garnet]

Glad one of these showed up in Smash xD

[limber venture]

battle of giants dinosaurs is actually the best game ever its so good

[grand tusk]

did fossil fighters show up in smash?

[vivid sonnet]

I think T. Rex was a spirit?

[odd garnet]

Sega, Ubisoft, and Nintendo Dinosaur games that never happened again

[grand tusk]

common fossil fighters W

[storm grotto]

It is I'm pretty sure

[odd garnet]

The Trex and the mascot was a spirit

Those Kids were trophies in Smash 4

[limber venture]

WTF THERE WAS A SEQUEL TO BATTLE OF GIANTS DINOSAURS

FOR THE WII

My life has been changed

[odd garnet]

Did the Wii come after the DS?

[storm grotto]

Only on the 3DS version, because fuck it

[storm grotto]

Obviously?

[odd garnet]

Because it's a 3ds game

[vivid sonnet]

I wish Fossil Fighters was less obscure so people made ROM hacks and stuff with more vivosaurs

[limber venture]

WTF

[grand tusk]

I had this game, it sucked

[limber venture]

THERES 3 OF THEM

[storm grotto]

Rezza is having his world view expanded

[raven carbon]

Rezza is discovering the third dimension

[grand tusk]

rezza bout to discover the same fate as fossil fighter fans

[storm grotto]

I get it-

[limber venture]

I THOUGHT THERE WAS ONE COMBAT OF GIANTS DINOSAURS GAME AND THERES THREE

HOLY SHIT! THREE CAKES

[grand tusk]

there's a spin off with dragons too

[limber venture]

I knew about that

Theres an insects one too

[grand tusk]

insects are cool

[limber venture]

The dinosaurs have my heart though

[vivid sonnet]

Played this one, even kept the trading cards (?) that came with the game box

[grand tusk]

those are not normal insects I see

[limber venture]

they had TRADING CARDS>?

[raven carbon]

Maybe in the sequels the final boss is a call center

[limber venture]

man

[odd garnet]

Eh
I liked this insect game better xD

[limber venture]

i got mine second hand from a charity shop so i didnt get any trading cards

[storm grotto]

Scientifically inaccurate dinosaurs have a certain charm to them

[vivid sonnet]

It was fun to make and be a dragon but the gameplay was mid

[grand tusk]

we're due for a good insect game

[limber venture]

If it was anything like dinosaurs the combat was just tracing an outline yea

[raven carbon]

I got an insect horror game as a kid

[storm grotto]

Like, it's adults designing the coolest monsters they can from some bones

[grand tusk]

dinosaurs shouldn't have feathers

[odd garnet]

You guys gotta check out Drone Tactics
It's like Fire emblem, but with Mecha Bugs

[grand tusk]

its not right I tell ya

[raven carbon]

It's called bug Island, I think

[limber venture]

in combat of giants: dinosaurs you can give your dinosaur feathers to increase their speed

[rocky sandal]

Bye, GamR! I'll miss your contests!

[odd garnet]

We can do that in Pokemon as well
Swift Feathers :D

[grand tusk]

Escape from Bug Island

[vivid sonnet]

BlueBonz L moment

[raven carbon]

Dinosaurs should have hairless skin

Truly the pinnacle of dinosaur design

[grand tusk]

Have you seen have they design dinos with feathers?

[storm grotto]

If Dinosaurs ending up just looking like Big Birds isn't the funniest shit ever I don't know what is

[odd garnet]

Uh... Looks Hollywoodish

[vivid sonnet]

Bitch that's just what they looked like now that we have slightly better data

[limber venture]

That game looks awesome

[limber venture]

EW

Nasty ass critter

[grand tusk]

exactly

[limber venture]

It looks like it smokes cigarettes

[vivid sonnet]

There were hundreds of species, not all of them are gonna be winners

[grand tusk]

"oh but d-d-d-dinos still cool with feathers🤓 "

nah scientists suck

[odd garnet]

Have you played the DK arcade game?

[vivid sonnet]

You're dead to me

[odd garnet]

It's just Rock paper scissors xD

[storm grotto]

Imagine making a creature on your head and then being disappointed that no, they were not like that

[grand tusk]

Fossil Fighters common W

[storm grotto]

Like the DS game, what is new?

[vivid sonnet]

T. Rex mid

I want weird shit

[raven carbon]

Best Dino is spinosaurus

[grand tusk]

you're that one guy who was like "trex's suck and also were only scavengers"

and made a whole shit documentary about it

[odd garnet]

Did you know about the Dinosaur King anime voiced by the Pokemon Voice actors?

[vivid sonnet]

Not scavengers, but they're just...not very interesting to me idk what to tell ya

[grand tusk]

and yet i'm dead to you?

ok bozo

[raven carbon]

Looks like digimon

[limber venture]

t rexes are awesome and they can BREATHE FIRE and they can jump 100 FEET IN THE AIR and they can shoot PLASMA BLASTS FROM THEIR EYES

[grand tusk]

and they fight earth eating demon brains

which look goofy as shit

[raven carbon]

The most exciting dinosaurs are chickens, everyone

Your opinions are not valid

[grand tusk]

final boss btw

[limber venture]

ermmm.. spoilers!!!!

[raven carbon]

That's one goofy looking call center

[grand tusk]

its brains are just tiki masks

[vivid sonnet]

People who think feathers make dinosaurs less cool are weak as shit

[raven carbon]

Who would want to work there

[storm grotto]

Man I love that part where the T-Rex started to create earthquakes from it's stomps, and got a glock out of their tiny hands, and-

[raven carbon]

BRAIN BLAST

[grand tusk]

🤓

[storm grotto]

Brains were blasted, yes

[limber venture]

and he said "This is for killing my family, you bastard" and the phone booth just looked at him like this

[grand tusk]

these are brains btw

[limber venture]

Literal chills down my spine

[grand tusk]

also

there was a fossil fighters manga

[vivid sonnet]

Have you ever seen a harpy eagle though

[grand tusk]

apparentely

[grand tusk]

I have seen birds, and i'm looking at a birdbrain right now

[storm grotto]

Remember at the end when he said, after killing the phone booth
"I am the Combat of Giants:Dinosaurs"

[limber venture]

My favourite line in the game honestly

[grand tusk]

it's combatin time, and then he giant dinosaur'd all over them

[raven carbon]

Top one is from sonic, left one from LoZ, right one is just Gmax Tiki Tong

[storm grotto]

It was forshadowed so magnificently

[limber venture]

What a great game

[grand tusk]

truly one of the most games of all time

[minor forge]

hey bluebonz

i found a cool video for you

https://youtu.be/yS71VeptuEc

[grand tusk]

Thats sick but I can't take it seriously with that goofy thumbnail

[raven carbon]

A non-spriter contest participant posting a creepy video

Recipe for good fun

[minor forge]

i clicked in here
saw someone dissing feathered dinosaurs

did what i had to do

[raven carbon]

Where are my skin dinosaur supporters at

[minor forge]

well not all of them had feathers

example:
t rex likely didn't have feathers/fuzz as an adult

babies might've been covered in some fuzz

stegosaurus definitely didn't have feathers

well, i say definitely, there's always a big "maybe"

with paleontology

easier to prove than to disprove stuff about a dead animal

sometimes

other times its the other way around

and then there's the "we don't know stuff" like behavior

[pastel hollow]

i still headcanon that t rex had armpit feathers 😛

[minor forge]

.... w h y

its arms are small there's not much of an armpit

.... wouldn't that get pretty gross though
like i know they likely didn't sweat but
no real way for them to preen armpit feathers

[lusty pewter]

tf kind of conversation did you guys have that it goes to t-rex feather armpit hair?

[vivid sonnet]

Fossil Fighters -> DS Dinosaur games -> "feathers on dinosaurs bad" -> "nuh-uh" -> armpit feathers

[lusty pewter]

ok you know what that's understandable, have a nice day

[zinc lion]

I played fossil fighters once as a kid

[minor forge]

theory:
the non avian dinosaurs didn't go extinct from an asteroid it was t rex pit stink

it wafted across the ocean like the sahara dust

thats how it got dinosaurs on other continents

again, it'd probably get gross bc they wouldn't be able to preen it

oh my god

it was a mass exSTINKtion event

[half jackal]

Chickens are no fucking joke

They can and have killed

[minor forge]

@vivid sonnet dude

[raven carbon]

Chickens are nasty

[half jackal]

Hens often peck each other’s eyes out

[minor forge]

dinosaur nuggets are like
if birds were eating Neanderthal shaped nuggets made out of modern day people

[half jackal]

Nah. More Cimolestes-shaped nuggets made out of people

[raven carbon]

I feel like I just entered a shower thoughts channel

[vivid sonnet]

Pfff

[minor forge]

there's a cursed thing i wanna say but can't bc of rule 2

basically gonna try and say a sanitized version of it

there's this "expert" named Brian Ford

he claimed that the dinosaurs didn't go extinct bc of an asteroid

but bc they ran out of lakes

that would let them do t h i n g s

[pastel hollow]

ohh water polo

life just wasn't the same after we couldn't play dinosaur water polo

[minor forge]

if it helps he believes dinosaurs couldn't support their own body weights

[pastel hollow]

wait ive heard of this guy lmao

[minor forge]

think
i can't directly say what it was bc of rule 2

another cursed theory is just
this image

[plucky arch]

dragons

[minor forge]

gonna move to #spriter-general and share this there with 0 context

[pastel hollow]

how do you think the parasaurolophus was one of the most successful species?

fire breathing is the only explanation

[half jackal]

Clearly

[pastel hollow]

the other dinosaurs were behind the curve and they release their inner fire in the form of farts

the parasaurolophus adapted to use it as a weapon to defend themselves from the apex predators of the time

the reason we thought dinosaurs didn't have feathers was because clearly it'd be a fire hazard

but it turns out they were fire retardant feathers

[glossy wagon]

As one of the most successful dinosaurs of the Triassic, I can confirm I only succeeded because I can breathe fire

[minor forge]

what dinosaur are you

[glossy wagon]

yes

[dusk schooner]

Ignusaurus Rex

[hollow gull]

Hey how long is left until the end of the contest?

Am I able to make a last minute change to one of my submissions?

[vivid sonnet]

Yeah, I think tomorrow 8pm est is the finale

[hollow gull]

Huh

They moved the deadline

[fading lodge]

Gamr retiring moment, huh?

[raven carbon]

Yeah, he didn't want to deal with all the newer people complaining about his management

That isn't a negative remark, btw

[thin dove]

oh yeah, for future contests, can i remake a fusion i've made previously but with a different base or something?

[raven carbon]

I'm pretty sure all submissions have to be new

[thin dove]

i wasn't sure if the wording meant i can't reuse something I had already done for the contest or if i could make a similar fusion I made but redo the base and things for the contest

[cedar quest]

*contest management in general

[thin dove]

i don't really have anything to complain about, as a newblood i think you're doing fine

[grand tusk]

common Totodile W, this is why you're the only good gen 2 starter

[teal grove]

o7 Gamr

[thin dove]

how often do contests happen, by the by?

[teal grove]

Check #contest-gallery and count

[lusty pewter]

well the channel says it's weekly but maybe it's more once or twice a month? not sure since I'm pretty new to the server

[teal grove]

It used to be weekly, now it’s once or twice a month (something #contest-gallery can attest to)

[ocean crown]

in summary: IF is poppin now so it takes 5ever to vote, prolonging other contests

[lusty pewter]

takes so long that 4ever got upgraded to 5ever, wow

[ocean crown]

im glad i was able to participate in 2/3rds of GamRs last series o7

also that "Choice" sponsored he hosted was great too

[teal grove]

I got absolutely roasted in it but yes

[wind matrix]

I'm sad I missed Husk getting roasted

[quartz locust]

Ignore my droning on.

He's still a mod, he just doesn't want to deal with people whinging about contests anymore.

[deft kite]

Maybe to help reduce how irritating it is for managers, there could be a bot that looks for when people ask about contest details and it tells them something like this message. Maybe include some things about how contests run 1-2 times a month, etc, etc.

[quartz locust]

That's not a bad idea, I'll run it by them and see what they think. 😄

[honest tulip]

@cedar quest so u're gonna focus more on qwilgang completion now?

[silver merlin]

def not a bad idea

could just be a tag tbh

well, going forward from here we have smth planned

[quartz locust]

The plan, of course, is no more contests. 🙂

[silver merlin]

(how did he know-

[quartz locust]

Pack up, everyone, go home, nothing to see here.

[teal grove]

You didnt miss it

[honest tulip]

contest abolishment

[teal grove]

It was the magcargo/reuniclus

[deft kite]

interesting interesting

[silver merlin]

yeah gamr loved my sprite coug

[wind matrix]

that was the birthday bash contest tho

[teal grove]

Oh right

Choice was the one where gamr killed katten

[honest tulip]

what contest was it about?

[wind matrix]

it was about choice

[honest tulip]

what options do the contestants have?

[crystal hill]

is it every other contest is a themed one/a specific pokemon one?

[honest tulip]

classic (one specific pokemon) > themed > classic > theme

[crystal hill]

yeah that's what I meant

thanks

will probably join the next one then, classic seems easier to get into as a newer spriter

[wind matrix]

options

[teal grove]

E

Hello Senko

No you werent

[quartz locust]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-what-emote-gif-23702501

[wind matrix]

I don't get it either 😅

[deft kite]

https://tenor.com/view/eren-aot-aot-gif-21184187

[quartz locust]

I feel like I've had a mild lobotomy reading this chat right now. 😮

[normal oyster]

Happens when it’s AI

[deft kite]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-charazaird-gif-18130028

[lusty pewter]

I'm just... gonna pretend the last 10-20 message didn't happen

[wind matrix]

first ai art, now ai conversations

[deft kite]

banish them to #ask-a-bot

[silk bolt]

let's ban the word AI

imagine if there is a spriter among us who posts ai generated sprite 👀

[deft kite]

i used all my midjournmey trials on two adccounts, cant play around and test that 😦

[cedar quest]

Probably maybe yeah but idk when I'll be able to finish this next one I've been working one mainly because thE GLIGAR LINE SUCKS TO SPRITE WITH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[honest tulip]

Oh why’s that? Think of it like a chimera, a bat but with scorpion’s exoskeleton I guess? U’re fusing it with qwilfish?

[silk bolt]

hello guys

[quartz locust]

What about Grafaiai? 😢

[odd garnet]

Aipom

[crystal hill]

if you wanna ban AI art makes more sense to just do that than to ban the word AI

[teal grove]

I want to ban

[crystal hill]

who do you want to ban?

[teal grove]

I just want to ban something in general

[misty acorn]

yooo, first episode of the first part of the third part of the final season next week I think

[outer veldt]

Ban banning

[silk bolt]

lets ban you

[teal grove]

No

[quartz locust]

We're banned from making those jokes, according to the Boss Man. 😢

[silk bolt]

ooh didn't know it sorry

at least that's one banned thing, husk is happy

[livid tulip]

[raven carbon]

My bad.

[normal oyster]

I want to ban cliticlic

[raven carbon]

I just realized contest managers could participate in contests

[hollow gull]

What is this

[normal oyster]

[raven carbon]

Cliticlic is klinklang in french

Oh

I was beaten to the punch

[normal oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/super-ff-fa-fast-jimmy-valmer-south-park-s21e4-franchise-prequel-gif-20403364

[raven carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-university-snail-slow-run-late-gif-4457171

[hollow gull]

Wish me luck I gotta study

[raven carbon]

May there be many four leaf clovers in your future

[short dirge]

Unless the contest is the managers voting I assume

But now it’s popular vote

[stray condor]

oh damn gl

[grand tusk]

ඞ

Did someone say Ai generated pokemon sprite?

AI got some work to do, look at that nasty stomach

[zinc lion]

I remember thinking that the custom sprites were ai generated and thought 'wow, we've come a long way since dalle mini"

[grand tusk]

This isn't even Dalle-mini, this is all the actual Dalle-2 could make

[zinc lion]

Haha lol

[zinc lion]

This is living proof human artists are better

[teal grove]

It's not even pixel-art if you zoom in

[zinc lion]

They were close

Also they make everything pikachu

[grand tusk]

I don't think the bot is amazing at sprites, it def prefers other art styles

like a 3d render of pikachu eating a purple apple

[teal grove]

Always uncanny valley

One of the scarier things about this picture is the eyes

The left has a pupil, the other is just pure black

[grand tusk]

it did the purple apple pretty well all things considered

really this is just the first result, usually people take a result and refine it

[hollow gull]

This ai will be so useful when all apples change color

[grand tusk]

(I did tell it to make the apple purple)

[hollow gull]

AI art is BAD

[teal grove]

The difference between ai art and real art is easy to spot if you've got a good eye for art

[rare swift]

by definition, AI can't make art

[hollow gull]

I like to get radical with my definition of art, but all art has intent, emotion. AI is literally emotionless.

[grand tusk]

I dunno, it's holding a purple apple

[crystal hill]

the definition of art is very up for debate but either way outside of science I think definitions should be descriptive not prescriptive

[vivid sonnet]

AI art isn't spun out of nothing, it has to be trained. And making art based on other people's art and then not giving them credit is kind of sickening

[fading lodge]

I'm pretty sure art is assigned emotion, not inherently has emotion. I can splatter paint on a canvas with no emotion, but someone could find depth of meaning to it. Therefore, if you find meaning in its beauty or appearance, it can be art.

[crystal hill]

going "well the definition says it is this so people are using the word wrong" is not the correct way to look at words, it's more "well the word is being used this way that doesn't match the definition so the definition is wrong"

[vivid sonnet]

Whether or not it's "real" art is kind of beside the point

[fading lodge]

Isn't that true of all art? Don't all artists get trained from other art, and develop their own style? Isn't all art something that is learned by observing other art and the world?

[teal grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/702626820876533851/1071471733757984808/20230115_122759.gif

[vivid sonnet]

Yes, but AI art stans are idiots and I don't trust them to give the work they're training on any credit

[teal grove]

AI art isnt inherently the problem, it’s the people who use it all whilly nilly

[limber venture]

I do see what you mean by that but humans gaining knowledge and experience is different to taking 100,000,000,000 pieces of art and throwing them into a big meat grinder labelled "ART MIXERIZER"

[teal grove]

As always, humans are the problem

[fading lodge]

Most artists don't credit the sources of their art. I think people are just mad it's a robot doing it instead of a person.

[teal grove]

Naka, do you get paid for comissions?

[fading lodge]

So a robot learns faster than a human. I'd rather have a bot learn over the course of months or minutes than years or decades, when I'm making technology.

[vivid sonnet]

If AI can help artists, that't all well and good, but it feels like people are using AI to displace artists while also directly benefiting from them

[crystal hill]

I mean I literally reference art closely sometimes when drawing, I feel like a machine taking 0.001% inspiration from my work and a human copying how I draw a hand in a weird pose the robot is doing less stealing
I'd personally be fine with either

[vivid sonnet]

It's sickening

[crystal hill]

yeah it's for sure taking jobs and that fucking sucks

[fading lodge]

First, I'm not talented in art, but I am a data science guy. I don't do commissions, but, for example, many people post "fan art" of things they like, and yet they barely acknowledge the artist that made the original art.

[crystal hill]

I just think that using it for something like pokemon fusions isn't really taking jobs

[teal grove]

Case in point, people are the problem

[crystal hill]

? I rarely see people not mention the original work of stuff they do fan art of
I think you have an actual argument here, people do not mention references they use typically, but when doing fan art they very much mention the thing it is fan art of

[teal grove]

Too bad im not allowed to advocate for genocide

[limber venture]

I see no rule against it

[vivid sonnet]

That's fine, imo. Usually if something is a Big Franchise it's a little easier to find out whose art is being used, so I'm not as steamed about it

[crystal hill]

see now if you did a genocide you'd be the problem largely

[limber venture]

It's not being mean it's just an opinion

As long as it's indiscriminate

[crystal hill]

like hitler, hitler is bad (controversial and brave opinion I have)

[teal grove]

A problem that solves a lot of problems, coincidentally

[fading lodge]

How often do people reference Sugimori when doing Pokemon art? Where the art comes from is mentioned, but not the individual artist.

[teal grove]

A lot, actually

[limber venture]

Yeah that happens

[teal grove]

There’s even a designated sugimori art style now because of it

[limber venture]

People call it the ken sugimori style for a reason

[fading lodge]

Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place.

[vivid sonnet]

People will often make tutorials being like "How to Make Sugimori-Style Art!" and then explain the aspects of art that are unique or indicative of his art style through the years

[crystal hill]

ok but to me that still counts as giving credit, people know where the inspiration come from, if they like it they can look up that work
you don't have to credit individual designers as long as you credit the project it's from usually, in a lot of fan art cases the person who designed a single character in a larger project just isn't known

[teal grove]

Anyway back to the genocide idea, i feel like india, china and the usa would be prime candidates for mass extinction

[vivid sonnet]

Don't. Please don't.

It's not funny

[fading lodge]

Anyways, I personally feel it is a fear of new technology that people worry about. AI Art allows people like me to have access to "custom" drawings that we lack the skill to otherwise create. It makes something that once was a specialized process and makes it available to the general public. I'm not saying that it isn't causing problems for artists, but I think the "it'll take our jobs" thing is getting blown out of proportion. Most technology does replace some jobs, but it creates new jobs.

[crystal hill]

no you see he's ironically telling people that specific groups of people should be killed an mass, therefore it's funny, if I were to say something racist with a /s after it everyone would laugh

[rigid bobcat]

There is already paid positions where your entire job is “Prompt Engineer” and you just know how to prompt chat AI to get the information you want

[fading lodge]

Again, I'm a data science guy, so I have a different view of technology than most people.

[teal grove]

I just think we also shouldnt downplay it

Since there are already cases of people training AI on one artist a lot specifically to then be able to recreate his style and cheat them out of money

[fading lodge]

If artists embraced the technology, they could get ahead and guide the way AI art gets used.

[crystal hill]

I think the technology we should be mad at is data science and computers meaning I don't get to go in the field and count bugs as much as biologists got to do in the olden days

[vivid sonnet]

Artists sadly do not hold the economic power to decide that, imo

[fading lodge]

That kind of thing will happen with any technology. Intent is where I think we should be looking.

[rigid bobcat]

Hopefully laws also evolve to keep up with the technology

[crystal hill]

you can recreate an artist's style without AI, it's what this entire server is based around

[teal grove]

Intent is the big problem here

[teal grove]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[rigid bobcat]

TRUE LMAO

[teal grove]

Laws arent even up to date with 2010's internet yet

[rigid bobcat]

Yeah

[raven carbon]

AI art bad IF art good

Problem solved

[fading lodge]

I have faith in technology. I don't have faith in lawmakers to properly keep up with the times.

[honest tulip]

IF art = ai art

[vivid sonnet]

I don't have faith in the bourgeoisie paying anybody for their work

[teal grove]

Yeah, you can, but people still commission for the style.

[rigid bobcat]

The only thing we can really do is wait and see what happens

[fading lodge]

AI Art neutral (like weaponry or teapots). It's a tool that is powerful, beautiful, and risky/dangerous. It must be used correctly.

[teal grove]

Or we can yknow

Take matters into our own hands

99%, all that stuff

[fading lodge]

That sounds like a lot of work for a Monday. Can we reschedule?

[teal grove]

I know how to make miniature railguns

[rigid bobcat]

That’s a later thing

I only have two dates, now and sometime in the future

That’s all i can keep track of

[teal grove]

Sure, thursday same time?

[dull sky]

Honestly what pisses me off is that there are some idiots who use AI art and just slap a price there and say that its THEIR creation. Idk if any of this makes any sense but lol

[fading lodge]

That sounds like an ADHD thing. I have that exact same problem.

[rigid bobcat]

I do have ADHD

[teal grove]

I only have two dates as well, the one with your mom and the one with your dad

[rigid bobcat]

:(

[crystal hill]

I know that starting a revolution based entirely on hatred of the ruling class without an underlying ideology is probably not a good idea
y'all wanna go with anarchism or communism?

[teal grove]

[fading lodge]

ADHD Friends!

[rigid bobcat]

I’m sad because you only have two dates hehehe

[teal grove]

I prefer isolationist socialism but that’s rather hard to force on the entire world

[vivid sonnet]

Lean towards anarchism myself, if a hiearchy doesn't need to be there, vote 'em out

[crystal hill]

claims to be a spriter
goes on dates instead of spriting

couldn't be me

[fading lodge]

Anarchism is out, it's inherently paradoxical because it creates the rule of no rules, which is a rule unto itself. Communism could work, but first we'd have to convince the populace to believe in the good of all/others, which is tough in individualistic societies.

[dull sky]

You can do both
Spriting date

[vivid sonnet]

Afaik anarchism in the political sense has a different meaning than the common use sense

(we may have to wrap this up though, or we will get bonked)

[teal grove]

I just want self-sustaining communities that have no need for contact with others besides recreational purposes

[crystal hill]

you have a very basic and narrow understanding of anarchism I think, but I also don't think this is the place for political debate that gets into any level of nuance so fuck it let's just nuke monaco and see what happens

[teal grove]

And i also want a functioning government but i can get that with any other system compared to the current situation in belgium

[crystal hill]

I personally don't think this is at all sustainable at a global population at the size we have today sadly

[fading lodge]

I think having governments is good when you have a large society. I just believe most people don't act in the best interest of the general good.

Anyways, Gam'r retiring, probably because we cause chaos.

[crystal hill]

oh wait this is gonna be answered by you suggestion genocide again isn't it?

[teal grove]

...nooo

It actually wasnt

[rigid bobcat]

I mean it is an option

An option =/= a good option though

[fading lodge]

All problems are solved by proper supply chain. I believe there is enough for even more people on the planet, but we don't have proper supply chains to make it work. Corruption prevents resources from getting to where they need to be.

[rigid bobcat]

So true

[teal grove]

It actually is sustainable, but

Everyone has to play their part

[crystal hill]

what do you base this on?

[rigid bobcat]

We just need to start asteroid mining already

[teal grove]

And we'd also have to tear down multinational corporations

[rigid bobcat]

I need silicon, I’m hungry

[fading lodge]

So true. I don't know about tearing down multinational corporations, but corporate greed is a major problem.

[teal grove]

The fact that there’s enough food to eradicate hunger, but that it’s just distributed really, REALLY badly

[crystal hill]

yeah but if you were to close of communities and make them self sustaining

that would massively impact food production

[teal grove]

(Oh and also if you go dumpster diving behind a walmart, walmart can legally sue you for stealing despite them throwing out still edible food)

[crystal hill]

like I agree with this

I do think we need to redistribute wealth

[vivid sonnet]

Capitalism? More like…crapitalism

[limber venture]

dumpster diving being any kind of a crime is literally the biggest injustice of all time

[crystal hill]

and probably lessen globalisation

[dull sky]

Some countries probably won't be able to do em self sustaining shit

[rigid bobcat]

My school FORCES you to get every food group and a lot of times it’s just not good food and it makes me so mad to see how much of it gets immediately thrown out

[fading lodge]

Plus, people don't know how to care for themselves. Whether it is growing your own food or finding work where you can afford to buy food, [some] people don't know how to support themselves, which is why there exists some cycles of poverty. People get trapped and don't know how to get out of the cycle.

[vivid sonnet]

Blaming people for their own poverty is not something I wanna do, ever

Even if people "don't wanna work" they should be allowed to eat and have a place to live lmao

[crystal hill]

but I don't think you can provide food for the entire planet without communities specialising and inter community trade, I do think you can make that trade more mutually beneficial and keep it mostly on a smaller scale than it is now to reduce environmental damage, and I think creating a less profit focussed (socialist) economic system is a part of that

[dull sky]

Based from what I'm seeing on my end (I live in the Philippines for like my entire life), some people aren't fault for their OWN poverty. No matter how hard you work here, there will always be the rich who take your basic needs away from you.

[fading lodge]

Some people don't learn how to break the cycle. Some are complicit. Many cases that's not true, but people get trapped by the cycle. It's like the story of the seagulls at a fishery. They eventually stopped hunting fish themselves and taught their children to beg for scraps from fishers, then when the fishers left the seagulls starved, all because they didn't sustain a behavior of self-help.

[crystal hill]

but completely having communities be self sustaining would also make them massively inefficient

and with the current global population we don't have the land to provide for everyone in an extremely inefficient manner

[rigid bobcat]

Yeah separating society into small communities and seperating them just sounds like going back 200 years

[vivid sonnet]

People are only complicit because the upper class pumps propaganda into the lower class that poverty is their own fault

[teal grove]

Pano, a belgian group of reporters, recently did an interesting documentary on generational poverty. The problem often is that they cant break the cycle, simply because they need money they cant get. One such example i remember is how we have subsidies for the poor so they can pay off their taxes, generational debts, costs of living, etc., but that disappears as soon as they gain over a certain amount of money. In theory this works, but in practice, the impact of the subsidies is so important that as soon as they lose them they’re often worse off than they were before they were registered as legally poor.

And soon after they fall back, and continue the cycle

[vivid sonnet]

Being poor is straight up expensive

[teal grove]

I dont know if yall can watch it but it’s pretty interesting

[dull sky]

If its in Youtube, I think I can watch it.

[fading lodge]

Give a man a fish, feed him for a day, but teach him how to fish, feed him for a lifetime. Even some work is better than no work. We should help those trying to break the cycle, and for those who don't want to break the cycle, I don't want to contribute to the conversation (I don't want to be the one to determine their fates). To a degree, everyone has their own fate in their own hands.

[teal grove]

It's not, the only results are from a similar one they made 2 to 8 years ago

[vivid sonnet]

Agree to disagree, the teach a man to fish thing is also kinda sorta propaganda

[fading lodge]

Subsidies are such a trap. I hate them. I wish they didn't punish those who want to become self sufficient.

[vivid sonnet]

They don't??

[dull sky]

Shitttt guess I'll have to look for it balls deep

[teal grove]

They’re talking about what i wrote

[fading lodge]

This comment shows why subsidies are trap.

[vivid sonnet]

Oooh, my bad. Whoops

[fading lodge]

They are intended to help, but they keep the poor poor.

[teal grove]

They can work, It's just that in practice they're done very poorly

As with a lot of things

[crystal hill]

a lot of people really aren't in a position where they do
I know people who physically can't really do any job or who got into poverty because of factors outside of their own control (getting fired for their gender identity or sexuality)
while yeah people have control over they fate to some extent, there are just holes that are too steep to crawl out of without outside help

[vivid sonnet]

I just didn't understand "punishing ppl for being self sufficient"

[fading lodge]

Any time they try to escape, they get punished. I think effort should be rewarded, but how to fix systemic problems on a macro scale is very difficult to talk about. It's not like people are willing to change established systems overnights.

[teal grove]

Anyway
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day.
Give a man a poisoned fish, and you'll feed him for a lifetime.

[vivid sonnet]

A poisson poisson, if you will

[dull sky]

I wanna add that you could get rejected from just not graduating from school major university

And thats forever bullshit to me

[fading lodge]

Needing help isn't a problem. I've got no problem with people needing help; everyone does at some point. But I think we need better systems for helping those who want to help themselves.

[thick jolt]

toxic tuna?

[teal grove]

Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day.
Give a man a pen, and he'll probably draw a penis.

[dull sky]

That is

[fading lodge]

Anyways, we aren't going to solve global problems here. But, know that I do want the best for everyone. How to help everyone is the challenge, but I hope things go well for you all.

[dull sky]

That caught me offguard jsus

[crystal hill]

ok but like, how many people don't want to help themselves due to depression and other mental health problems?
if you are in the worst position, being able to find it in yourself to fight that position isn't always an easy "oh I just gotta help myself"

[vivid sonnet]

I think people should get support no matter if they "deserve" it is the main thing, because the people who decide who "deserves" it often have a narrow understanding of it

[dull sky]

Its really only accepting the help is like the main thing i feel

[fading lodge]

True. Support systems are necessary. Given how my depression has gone and the number of times I've... ||censored|| , getting yourself to where you can get help is necessary, and unfortunately in this current world sometimes you need to be lucky to have good systems around you.

[dull sky]

Like yeah people should get support no matter if they actually deserve it or not
But its up to them to take that opportunity

[fading lodge]

No matter what, there will always be some corner case to argue. Generally, I think people should help themselves, but knowing when to ask for help is a key part of helping yourself. I think we all need to do our best, and as for the world currently, I do hope everything works out for us all.

[dull sky]

Now if only I can work on my sleeping schedule

[vivid sonnet]

Meeee

[teal grove]

Now since we cant solve global problems yet, we'll start with the smaller problems and build our way up

Starting with

[fading lodge]

We also shouldn't stigmatize people needing help, but we should still teach people how to care for themselves too.

[teal grove]

The lack of a KLINKLANKLONTEST

[fading lodge]

When the contest ends. I don't know we've fully established this.

[dull sky]

I'm still reeling over the fking give a man a pen shit man that took me out so hard

[limber venture]

politics-general

[fading lodge]

Again, I care for you all and wish you all the best. Just your friendly neighborhood Jii-san here.

[dull sky]

Oh actually shit I forgot I was gonna ask this
I'm assuming that there's an ongoing poll now ye?? Is it the Unown fusions?

I wanna cast my votes but also Im strangling Discord to show me the pics

[teal grove]

There’s not

[dull sky]

Shiiiiit

[fading lodge]

Are you referring to #dex-entries-submissions ?

[dull sky]

Yah yah!!

God theres so many channels Im just going

[teal grove]

Oh in that case, there are

But those arent contest-related

[vivid sonnet]

The contest polls are for the classic comps before they start, i think

[dull sky]

Ohhh!! Ok ok ty y'all

[grand tusk]

ok now back to politics

[vivid sonnet]

[grand tusk]

that's enough on topic contest related discussion for the day

[short dirge]

What kind of spicy politics are going on here

[thin dove]

so little hours to go and so ...also few sprites for me to choose from to enter. at this point i'm wondering if my one sprite i submitted is the only one that's good enough and the others would just be fodder

[short dirge]

Submit them anyway, you might be surprised

[fading lodge]

I submitted a bubble. A happy little bubble. That's revival themed. I'm sure.

One bubble. Not more.

[hollow gull]

It's

[vivid sonnet]

I'm gonna relax and just make my ideas for the contest not for the contest since I got one entry in already

[thin dove]

I made a tiny beebo in footie pajamas and my heart is melting

[thin dove]

i made a bunch of beebos and now i can't tell which one i should submit for the contest

[inner pivot]

Is there still time left to submit?

I have something I could put finishing touches on

[grand tusk]

8pm est i'm pretty sure, so you have about an hour and a half

[inner pivot]

Excellent!

Thank you

[grand tusk]

better hurry though

if im wrong dont blame me, I said pretty sure, not positive

[feral maple]

I think it if was over, a contest manager will have said it

[grand tusk]

yeah but he's asking how much time he has left. If we were 5 minutes away he probably would just submit it now for example

[zinc lion]

t minus 58 minutes

[autumn epoch]

Debating about submitting a half-baked sprite or just letting it be

[zinc lion]

always post sprites you never know what the secret criteria for people voting your sprites is

[thin dove]

I...I think I know which fellow to post

I hope he does well 🙂

good luck to everyone submitting a sprite for the contest!

[weak hearth]

How about I delete all the entries at the last moment?

[silk gyro]

that'd definitely get you banned

[weak hearth]

I know, did you really think I was going to do it?

[silk gyro]

i mean no, but you never know

[stray condor]

it ends in 15 minutes no?

[ivory olive]

I think

how many submission were in the last contest again?

[silk gyro]

165

[ivory olive]

alright, so there's 168 by my count in the one rn

so we broke the record again :D

[grand tusk]

assuming some aren't deleted for not being revival themed

[ivory olive]

AND IT'S OVER

168 FOLKS, 168!

[raven carbon]

Maybe more

[zinc lion]

yeah it's weird how you can just delete other people's entries

[thin dove]

ha. hahaha. i made an entire entry in under an hour

[raven carbon]

Maybe less

[thin dove]

i am probably going to regret the shit out of that later

[raven carbon]

I for one had to submit mine directly to Game bc I couldn't get the drive to work

[grand tusk]

yeah the google drive does seem a little unprotected

I'm surprised there isn't a submission form instead

[weak hearth]

That would cost much more than the current modality

[grand tusk]

modality?

you're getting to fancy on me

[raven carbon]

How long does it usually take for polls to go up?

[ivory olive]

too long

[zinc lion]

probably the day after

last contest it took 5 days, but gamr said he had a game plan ready

[silk gyro]

the plan is he bans everyone who posted more than 1 sprite

[ivory olive]

eh, ok

[zinc lion]

from the server. too many sprite artists here

[silk gyro]

a way of culling the herd

[plucky arch]

3 Entries = Banned
2 Entries = Kicked
1 Entry = Thrive

[silk gyro]

0 entries = promoted

[grand tusk]

Last time they weren't ready for the huge influx of entries

this time Husk helped them with a new system that hopefully won't have issues with the number

[loud scaffold]

Hell yeah no entries gang

[limber venture]

3 entries gang 🙁

[raven carbon]

2 entries gang

[buoyant bough]

oh yeah this is over now

good luck everyone!

[zinc lion]

delete entries = you win

[grand tusk]

1 entry

[raven carbon]

I can't wait for neither of my submissions to get past preliminaries

[inner pivot]

I’m honestly just glad I got to submit mine in time haha

[zinc lion]

WHY CAN'T I REACT TO A

[glossy wagon]

bot explode

try just doing a soft refresh of discord (ctrl-r, or close app in mobile)

[raven carbon]

It's obvious

Tympoll BEElieves BEE to BEE BEEtter than a. So, nuke tha A option
Simple enough

[weak hearth]

Who is she, Charlotte?

[raven carbon]

Reference hardly understood. Implosion immenent.

[wind matrix]

Very old staff member

[fading lodge]

Charlotte was cool.

Is. I think they just aren't active on the server anymore.

[thin dove]

i forgot i had a very specific backup waiting orz

[dusk schooner]

Nah she left ages ago

[fading lodge]

Doesn't mean Charlotte isn't cool anymore. I just didn't want it to sound like they died.

[misty acorn]

rip charlotte

[thin dove]

it sounds like she was a nice person

[weary pagoda]

[teal grove]

This server has so much drama lore

[silk bolt]

IF cinematic universe is peak fiction

TM's the robinlike

[teal grove]

The entire first part is just #900865122648588319-corruption-chat

[plucky arch]

the Newest Champion is that one character they introduce at the start of the movie thats dead by the end

[teal grove]

Quicksilver

[plucky arch]

exactly

[raven carbon]

I'm literally a background piece

[plucky arch]

if a champ becomes champ again they appear again then die again

like Loki in the thor movies

[teal grove]

And when he died for real he lived in his own series

[slow gyro]

Oh, I love drama and lore

[plucky arch]

i love having absolutely 0 stake/affect on the drama and lore honestly

[teal grove]

Hello Senko

[grand tusk]

where's the holy IF scripts that details the rich history of IF

[raven carbon]

I don't think we know

[glossy wagon]

Buried in the discord search button unfortunately

[grand tusk]

thats basically worthless then

[raven carbon]

I want a deoxys,dusclops, or hydreigon contest

[lusty pewter]

if it's a classic contest then I want gallade, tho idk if it's already done before. gallade is my fav pokemon :3

[plucky arch]

great news: you vote

you get 5 options and vote on them

(and vote for klinklang)

[raven carbon]

(VOTE deoxys)

[plucky arch]

Klinklangklontest for the win

[honest tulip]

Klinklang gonna get booted from the poll unless someone put it back in

[raven carbon]

And then we vote deoxys

The superior option

[honest tulip]

Deoxys is also gonez

[raven carbon]

😦

[honest tulip]

The options gonna be revival contest champion’s choice, scarecrow’s choice, machoke, jirachi and magikarp

[plucky arch]

rush, rush you have to win this one rush and put klinklang in

[plucky arch]

Jirachi?

[honest tulip]

Yea I put jirachi in for aegislash contest for the CM forgot to put into poll

[plucky arch]

ah

[honest tulip]

The machoke was put in for fantasy

The magikarp was the champion before me, by arinna

[plucky arch]

wonder what Scarecrow put in

[plucky arch]

checks out

[honest tulip]

Does special contest winner not get a choice?

[plucky arch]

ig not

[raven carbon]

Here's hoping the revival contest winner is an avid Deoxys/Dusclops/Hydreigon enjoyer

[grand tusk]

I hope they aren't, not for any real reason, I just want to spite you unprompted

[raven carbon]

You have started a rivalry that shall last until the end of time.

[zinc lion]

When do polls start?

[wispy moon]

Hey, just for you, if I win, I'm putting in deoxys

[teal grove]

Oh no you dont

Klinklang all the way

[glossy wagon]

there's no set date, basically just as soon as the contest managers have the opportunity to

[teal grove]

And the contest managers deserve to chill

I love and appreciate their work

[stone edge]

can you still enter?

[wispy moon]

I would really like to be one... I have a ton of cool ideas

[wispy moon]

Rock paper scissors for it

[teal grove]

Nope

[teal grove]

Okay you go first

[wispy moon]

I meant startree

I'm impartial here until I make up my mind

[teal grove]

Rock

I win

[wispy moon]

Well damn, you picked rock

Guess it's klinklang contest

[raven carbon]

I'm here

PaPer

[wispy moon]

Scissors

GO

[raven carbon]

Scissors

[teal grove]

I pick rock

HAHA LMAO

[raven carbon]

L

[wispy moon]

Okay husk wins

Vote me for klinklangs ig. Not like I'm ACTUALLY gonna win lmao

[shy river]

how about you klink my klangs

[raven carbon]

I doubt I'm even gonna get to quarters

I had some really cool ideas but I'm still not great

The sprites don't look BAD, it's just the majority of submissions are insanely good

[shy river]

oh wait, i completely forgot, are we supposed to still upload the contest entries to the gallery?

[wispy moon]

I feel like MAYBE ONE of them will make it to quarters lol

Big maybe

[shy river]

id honestly be happy with even one vote lol

[thick jolt]

you can if you want to, at any point

[raven carbon]

I'm posting them to gallery once they get kicked out of the competition

[shy river]

cool cool, thankie :)

[thick jolt]

if mine get kicked out straight away im gonna spritework question them again see what needs changing

[teal grove]

Probably nothing in the worst case scenario

Which would mean you lost simply because you were just up against sprites that appealed more to the voters

[raven carbon]

Let's be honest

40% of these sprites are S tier sprites

Imo

[thick jolt]

so many of them are so cool

[raven carbon]

Yeah! And then there are mine which just look incredibly inferior

[teal grove]

Not in my opinion, but then again, i always put the goal higher and higher

[shy river]

im happy with the way they are, so even if they get kicked out right away im okay with it

theyll hopefully get added to a pack anyway

[glossy wagon]

they'll be added to the pack if you put them in the gallery

[teal grove]

Every time i see something i think is better than my sprites i strive to surpass it

[glossy wagon]

(that's the only place that stuff goes to the packs)

[shy river]

so right when they're kicked out

[limber venture]

but what if your sprite gets kicked out the minute the day changes

what then

[glossy wagon]

I would say if you want them to be in the febuary pack you should put them in asap

[raven carbon]

I look at any of your sprites and think "if I'm half as good as that it would be incredible"

[glossy wagon]

very close to the cutoff for this month

[limber venture]

thats true i should go add abra

this pack will have 71 cofagrigus sprites made by me

[glossy wagon]

there's no rules for stuff in contests not going to gallery right away so just post them whenever

[shy river]

might as well post em, i guess

[teal grove]

Can you fucking chill, id kill for free time

[thick jolt]

i count about 23 sprites i really like in the comp

[limber venture]

This is what being homeschooled does to an MF

[rigid bobcat]

71 in a month?!?

[limber venture]

Yes

[raven carbon]

Nah I want the majority of people to see my sprites in the poll for the first time

[teal grove]

[limber venture]

I could have easily done more but i got burnt out as hell after slaking

[thick jolt]

i kind of forget that alot of the votprs wont have been looking at the doc every day

[rigid bobcat]

I mean yeah you did like 3 sprites a day for an entire month

[thick jolt]

i look at it all the time being like oo that ones so cool

[raven carbon]

Mine aren't even in the doc

[normal oyster]

Did submissions end for contest?

[thick jolt]

havent they ended now…

[raven carbon]

The doc wasn't working for me so I had to submit them directly to GamR

[thick jolt]

ahh okk

[teal grove]

Yeah

[raven carbon]

Yeah for some reason it just wouldn't show up unless I explicitly searched for it and even then the image wasn't appearing

[thick jolt]

i had to download the drive app on iphone to enter mine it was such a hassle lmao

[shy river]

uploaded now back to focusing on classes, whoops

[normal oyster]

I see but no announcement

[teal grove]

We had a week, over a week has passed since the initial announcement

[lusty pewter]

did not know that, thx for the heads up

[weary pagoda]

give him some time please lol

[hollow gull]

Who specifically are you talking to? I want to join in the praise

We love complimenting

[thick jolt]

(cant say who cause of rule 7)

o hwait

no he was talking to husk

[hollow gull]

Damn

@teal grove haven't seen your sprites actually, bet they're good though

[limber venture]

no theyre bad because klinklang sucks

[limber venture]

just look up klinklang/galvantula if you want a good example of a husk sprite

[raven carbon]

Husk

[teal grove]

Hello senko

[teal grove]

Im going to kill you

And then kill you again

[limber venture]

Cofagrigus better

[ivory olive]

IMMA SAY WHAT THE WINNER IS GONNA BE

A fusion between two pokemon will win

[limber venture]

Insane

[hollow gull]

I dunno if I'm having a bad day or like having rational thoughts but I went back to look at my submissions, I don't think we're making it past quarters

[limber venture]

Im gonna win this

Manifesting

You have to believe in yourself

[ivory olive]

I'd be incredibly happy if one of my submissions made it past the first 4th of the contest

[limber venture]

Thats not the spirit carbon

You have to believe with your entire soul that you will win the entire contest

[ivory olive]

baby steps Rezza

if I shoot for the stars and miss, I won't want to go for them again

but if I work my way up, I'll keep trying

[hollow gull]

True

I'm literally getting to finals

I'll get 2nd place (I'll be beaten by my own sprite

Actually the final round will just be me vs Carbon

[ivory olive]

oh, ok

[limber venture]

That's the spirit wyag

[vivid sonnet]

Man, now that the contest is over, can say for sure: lot of Parasects!

[ivory olive]

same with Celebi and Ho-Oh

[vivid sonnet]

I only made one entry, but I'm confident my idea will take me far :)

[ivory olive]

good luck dude :D

[thick jolt]

good luck everyone there are some amazing sprites here!

[raven carbon]

Good luck to everyone who will get farther than I! (That's every one of you, by the way.)

[shy river]

this makes me wonder if a three fusion wouldve been allowed

[vivid sonnet]

I think the only triple fusions are used by the bad guys in the game

[shy river]

I'm not hearing a no

[zinc lion]

imagine if we allowed triple fusions of every pokemon, there'd be over 70 million fusions

[limber venture]

i mean, more triple fusions isnt out of the question

[shy river]

There'd be some crazy stuff though

[grand tusk]

is there a triple starter fusion?

[limber venture]

Anyone who wants to make their mark on the game that's your chance tbh

[limber venture]

there are for all the starters i think

[shy river]

Yeah, multiple different ones for all the starters

At least, in the folder

Idk if you can even get them ingame

[limber venture]

id assume you can

otherwise why would they be there

[shy river]

For the bad guys to use?

Honestly though, triple fusions should be reserved for some of the more special poketrio's for sure

[limber venture]

But you can also use the ones the bad guys use im pretty sure

[shy river]

Not for something like golem rattata galvantula

[limber venture]

But what if its the best sprite youve ever seen

So good that frog just has to add it

[shy river]

I mean, there are a couple ones I can think of that could work

Or, have potential, I guess

The classic team Rocket trio zubat, koffing, ekans

But this is getting a bit too off topic

[raven carbon]

There should be a Pikachu clefairy rhydon triple fusion smh

[limber venture]

Contest general has no topic

Contest general is politics general when it needs to be

[shy river]

Ah, fair enough fair enough

Pikachu clefairy rhydon?

[raven carbon]

Yes

[limber venture]

triple fusion cool ghost type: cofagrigus/aegislash/chandelure

[vivid sonnet]

Quadruple fusion: each Pokemon that's said to be the "first" Pokemon: Bulbasaur, Rhydon, Mew, and Arceus

Good luck figuring out what type that would be

[limber venture]

All the eeveelutions at once

[raven carbon]

Triple fusion: Arceus, Omanyte, Slakoth

[shy river]

Normal type for the shits and giggles

[raven carbon]

If you know you know

[shy river]

[zinc lion]

how would you even chart triple fusions, and how would you decide the body and heads

[limber venture]

I dont think triples are body/head at all

And theyre just separate to chart stuff

[thick jolt]

alot of triple fusions are also just all 3 pokemons colours and bodies

[limber venture]

Ye

[silk gyro]

the gimmick for tri-fusions is: go crazy (but follow the rules)

[wispy moon]

https://tenor.com/view/dunkaccino-al-pacino-pacino-dunkacino-dont-mind-if-i-do-gif-18432190

[odd garnet]

ON IT

[wispy moon]

Done

[short dirge]

Wait why did people say no triple fusions then

I’d have been making these ages ago

[limber venture]

We didn't know back then i guess

[short dirge]

I scrapped a bunch cos people including mods were like no

[limber venture]

I certainly didn't know frog was looking for sprites for triples

[short dirge]

hm

[limber venture]

If you go for it, i'm excited to see what you come up with

I think your style would lend well to a triple fusion

[hollow gull]

@short dirge if I could request: Magmar/Electabuzz/Jynx would go hard

[short dirge]

I’m not home for like 2 weeks so don’t know

[stray condor]

74,088,000 god damn

• 176400 + 420

74264820 pokemon in one game

[thin dove]

inb4 somebody makes a kling/klang/klinglang fusion

[zinc lion]

kyurem/zekrom/reshiram

[raven carbon]

Klinklanglanglink

[raven carbon]

Already I the game I think

[plucky arch]

the issue with that is theres no third jynx evo

also speaking of trios, am i the only one who thought Ponyta, Growlithe, and Vulpix were somehow related as a kid

not biologically but in the same way as other trios

[raven carbon]

As a small child I thought houndoom and arcanine were counterparts

And I thought Dragonite and volcarona were legendaries

And zoroark

[hollow gull]

Exactly so just fuse the middles

[vivid sonnet]

I think in canon Magmortar/Electivire/Rhyperior are kind of a trio, as much as I am meh on Magmortar and Rhyperior

[hollow gull]

Damn :/

[limber venture]

fuck rhyperior

[hollow gull]

Rhyhorn has nothing to do with Electabuzz or Magmar though

[vivid sonnet]

True, but they all got 3rd evos in gen 4 and you battle them as a trio in Legends Arceus

[hollow gull]

And electric, ice, fire was a common type trio in gen 1

When is tha

That

[vivid sonnet]

I wanna say it was in the Snowpoint section of the game

[plucky arch]

i believe what happened is Jynx/Electabuzz/Magmar was a trio

and they all got baby forms in gen 2

[hollow gull]

Yea

[plucky arch]

then Jynx Controversy happened

so they booted it out

[hollow gull]

I wish Jynx would get a 3rd form soon

[plucky arch]

and Magmar and Electabuzz became a duo

[vivid sonnet]

I thought Jynx controversy happened during/before Gen 2 tbh

[hollow gull]

Plus wasn't smoochum a gen 3 Mon?

[plucky arch]

nah its gen 2

[hollow gull]

Huh.

Ok then

[vivid sonnet]

You'd think if they learned their lesson they wouldn't make Magmortar look…like that

[hollow gull]

What's wrong with magmortar?

Besides the obvious

[vivid sonnet]

It's the lips for me, they look extremely unfortunate

[plucky arch]

ive always felt like Pinsir was part of something

[vivid sonnet]

Pinsir and Heracross are kinda like counterparts despite arriving in different gens

[hollow gull]

It's paired with heracross

Can't have the Hercules without the stag

[plucky arch]

Pinsir and Heracross are like Tauros and Miltank then i presume

[civic zinc]

unironically despite the jynx controversy i love the pokemon for looking just human enough to trick you

though its more about taking that into play on it being psychic pokemon

id like if jynx was more seen so mess with ppl in the same sense zorua and zoroark can with shapeshifting

[civic zinc]

i really try to pretend when big lips show up on anything they arent there, cause it still shows up in a lot of media nowadays

[hollow gull]

Isn't it like about love?

[vivid sonnet]

I would also like a more sinister (and improved visually tbh) Jynx take

[hollow gull]

In the original art, the big lips look a lot more like a duck bill, was the translation to 3d that messed it up

[civic zinc]

its more about seduction

but i also like this dex entry

[hollow gull]

Before and after

[hollow gull]

This sounds unironically horrifying

[vivid sonnet]

I think if they kept the "bill" yellow it would look fine

[hollow gull]

Agree

[civic zinc]

these r all of jynx dex entrys

[vivid sonnet]

Anyways, I can't really ignore that whenever I see Magmortar so that kinda makes it hard to enjoy otherwise, but that's just me

[hollow gull]

Understandable

I just don't like it cause it's ugly

[vivid sonnet]

True

[hollow gull]

Over designed and not a good color palette

[civic zinc]

magmortar card art makes me sad

[vivid sonnet]

It's kinda messed up that Jynx has a language, but nobody's figured it out in-universe yet

[hollow gull]

Or at least the palette isn't used eell

Well*

[civic zinc]

if youve seen how badly they transition it in cards

[hollow gull]

They're too busy dancing samba

Almost made it look cool tho

[civic zinc]

yeah

im referring to like the ones where they put 3d art on cards

[hollow gull]

I mean this is sick

[civic zinc]

because every pokemon card nowadays has a 3d rendered art

on card

[hollow gull]

This?

[civic zinc]

not that one

This one

the whole art is awkward

[vivid sonnet]

[civic zinc]

it looks like the weight is improper on it and like the pokemon would fall over

[hollow gull]

Definitely

A decision

[vivid sonnet]

I think it also doesn't help they made the legs pink so they look naked

[civic zinc]

same with magmortar lvl x card where it pops out of the card it looks really awkward

[hollow gull]

I mean what even is magmortar? A uniboob duck cannon?