I'm still pondering but that is also my 1st choice haha
#event-general
crystal hill
I like Moltres a lot as well, and either the pinocchio or the Spiritomb 3rd for me
feral maple
I've done only three for the contest because I know it is hard to choose
odd garnet
I don't have a Spiritomb lol
crystal hill
oh wait
I meant cofagrigus
just got confused on names for a bit
I think the pinnocchio is a really neat take on the theme honestly
odd garnet
All the non-Roserade fusions are movie references Lol
crystal hill
but it's also one that is a reference yeah
wind matrix
obv all 3 have to be roserade 
feral maple
Can we still submit on Monday?
Depends of your time zone
odd garnet
obv all 3 have to be roserade <:heehee:945800365457149992>
Oh yes
Definitely
I WANNA SUBMIT THIS BUT THERE'S NOT REVIVING ABOUT IT xD
rare swift
reviving the previous competition theme 
crystal hill
true
teal grove
Xeno are you just posting all your potential entries here to see which ones people like most to then submit those specific three
cuz im not sure if rule 7 allows that
specifically in this channel
odd garnet
No
That never crossed my mind
I just shared them like everyone else does
Besides I already have someone to help me with that
AKA my sibling
buoyant bough
I WANNA SUBMIT THIS BUT THERE'S NOT REVIVING ABOUT IT xD
no reviving just vibing
misty acorn
Ask chatgpt
teal grove
Ask chatgpt
ivory olive
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/702626820876533851/1079073769005514752/...
why is this an actual character design
twin locust
cuase funni
teal grove
why is this an actual character design
It's not
ivory olive
but it actually works as one
teal grove
There’s an ai that turns pictures into anime chicks, originally meant to steal your face data but apparently it also works on other things
ivory olive
give it
teal grove
I do not know its name
ivory olive
I wanna make a Chris Pratt
teal grove
I do know it was used on that classic Jeff the Killer pic and a swastika
ivory olive
I am very interested in the latter
grand tusk
it's also spyware I think lmao
teal grove
it's also spyware I think lmao
What i said
grand tusk
so you did
ivory olive
exactly why I wanna use Chris Pratt
grand tusk
please excuse me, im a DBZ fan I can't read
ivory olive
that doesn't connect
teal grove
Iirc it was made by the chinese company Tencent, the same people that made PUBG, after they were contacted by the Chinese Government to create software for face recognition on street cameras
teal grove
Tencent owns a lot tho
Including slave laborers
ivory olive
Including slave laborers
given the Chinese government, not surprised
ivory olive
and league of legends
dude I already hate them, stop digging when you've struck oil
teal grove
and don't starve
I was making a joke about chinese slave labour
ivory olive
oh
crystal hill
I know
I just wanted to point this out, since that's a game people actually like
anyways, I don't think Tencent is really known for usually levels of slave labor for a big tech company? idk really tho, I don't keep up on that much
teal grove
Considering it’s a megacorporation and its offices are largely within china, it’s to be expected
teal grove
136 ENTRIES WHAT THE FUCK @cedar quest
glossy wagon
contest managers gonna be buried under a pile of sprites again 
craggy remnant
watch it almost double
teal grove
167
short dirge
1670, damn
craggy remnant
im almost done w my 2nd entry
short dirge
I'm debating if I should press the " add special effects " button on this entry
plucky arch
roserade got 167 and just immediately numbed everyone to anything less
"oh only 136, damn"
ivory olive
I'd rather have 167 chicken nuggies than only 136 chicken nuggies
short dirge
people giving me hassle because I use actual outlines for fire again, smh
limber venture
your outline style is UNPOKEMON-Y... disqualified
grand tusk
I tried to warn people to not sprite Roserade because it sucks but nobody cared
limber venture
there should have been at least ten more cofagriguses made for this contest
im disappointed in you all
ivory olive
can we just finish Roserade so we get different submissions
limber venture
gamr and iridiscentmirage get my utmost respect
teal grove
people giving me hassle because I use actual outlines for fire again, smh
im not talking about that specifically
short dirge
this is not the cofagrigus meta, I'm sorry to say
teal grove
you use quite dark outlines and make them work, gives your sprites a nice personal style
i like it
though i dont know how to make it work myself
teal grove
it's kinda the same style as a kingdra fusion i saw a couple weeks ago, hold on
short dirge
but it is true I am allergic to light outlines
teal grove
credit to quote.lass
limber venture
but light outlines are awesome
teal grove
die senko
short dirge
I'm possibly biased because
discord has such a dark background, and light outlines look shit on it
so a lot of times I post stuff and I'm like "fuck that outline is too pale"
teal grove
say riviera, would i be able to ask you to show me how you do the outlines? cuz ik you dont just use pure black outlines
kinda wanted to try it out on #1079113406352728154
wind matrix
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/702626820876533851/1079073769005514752/...
I hate this
teal grove
good
ivory olive
do you mean in the sex way or the cannibal way
short dirge
I have no idea
but one of those is very clearly nsfw so I assume not that
and the other one is bad for other reasons
though going by the internet, eating people in general, if not cannibalism, is still nsfw because of fetish connotations
cursed subject, let's move on
ivory olive
Feebas looks like a good fish for food
short dirge
how
grand tusk
feebas = bass
short dirge
and bass are good fish for food?
ivory olive
y e s
grand tusk
short dirge
that feebas looks nothing like a bass
grand tusk
wouldn't you eat it?
short dirge
no
bad
it is brown with random splotches which are a feature of 90% of fish and still not even inspired really, arguably
grand tusk
"oh torchic isn't based on a chicken!"
short dirge
torchic actually looks like a chick though...
grand tusk
AND FEEBAS IS A FISH
grand tusk
It's literally the same stupid name scheme!
grand tusk
torchicken
feebass
short dirge
torchic is a chicken chick it is indisputable
feebas is a fish
not a bass fish, a regular generic ass fish
grand tusk
A LARGEMOUTH BASS
short dirge
magikarp at least has carp features
even if there's some creative liberty
which I acknowledge is a case for feebas but
teal grove
magikarp
grand tusk
it clearly has largemouth bass features
short dirge
like what
grand tusk
it got them big ol lips
plucky arch
Feebas is a bass
short dirge
pain
I did actually find one pic that shows feebas with a big mouth
which is the manga
if feebas had a mouth like this consistently I'd be on board
but this is the only place it does
grand tusk
Look they're clearly taking the general color and body pattern and using it
they changed it up because obviously thats what pokemon designs do
but its fucking called fee-BAS
like BASS
short dirge
you aren't considering it has that name purely because it was the available fish pun
not because it is a bass
plucky arch
id like to bring this bass photo to the table
short dirge
what other fish could feeble mix with
grand tusk
oh you're right, magikarp isn't a carp, it was just the only available fish name
short dirge
Tee has a better case but I also doubt the designers looked into specific rarer species of bass for it
....but magikarp has carp features
also koi
plucky arch
largemouth bass also arent the only type of bass
short dirge
yeah, there's a lot of different types of bass
plucky arch
plus with fish, they can kinda just, mesh a lot together and call it good
short dirge
but not well-known in the cultural domain
grand tusk
name one other fish pokemon that's name isn't shared with the inspiration
short dirge
that wouldn't prove anything but I can try
grand tusk
it's more proof then anything you've said
which amounts to "eh, i don't feel like feeBASS shares enough features"
short dirge
I mean the argument here is just on the fact it is called feebas and has a generic dull colouration
which isn't a huge argument but it is one
grand tusk
it clearly has the spotty pattern that bass have
short dirge
bass have a transverse band of spots, except for the species Tee brought up
I haven't bothered to think about basculin
wonder it's supposed to be bass + sculpin
sculpin is a pretty common fish in Japan and known well
grand tusk
we have bulbipedia for basculin
fuckers used largemouth bass for it as well as feebas
lazy wikipedia
grand tusk
basculin was just kinda thrown in at the end
short dirge
basculin does actually have the green colour, giant mouth, and horizontal line of spots though
plucky arch
so what im hearing is Basculin is a mix of a Salmon, Bass, and Piranha
short dirge
even though it's clearly a little piranha-influenced
teal grove
bassed
plucky arch
aka Pokemon rly just likes mixing a bunch of fish together and calling it good
short dirge
it has the classic piranha fin morphology
two sharp back-pointing fins
all the Characids have that too but piranha is the one people know
grand tusk
"Origin
Feebas seems to be based on a bass, possibly the largemouth bass. It also resembles the marine hatchetfish. Its drastic transformation when evolving into Milotic may be inspired by the classic fairy tale The Ugly Duckling, where a small and feeble duckling is treated as an outcast by other animals until it eventually grows up to be a beautiful swan.
Name origin
Feebas may be a combination of feeble (weak) and bass. It also sounds similar to phoebus (Latin for shining one), possibly alluding to its evolved form.
Hinbass may be a combination of 貧 hin (poor) and bass."
So the japanese name uses bass too
grand tusk
And the hatchetfish thing is like.... ehhhhh
short dirge
I wouldn't say there's any hatchetfish resemblance
grand tusk
Not really?
short dirge
I'd be more likely to call feebas a bass than a hatchetfish
grand tusk
cause it is a bass
grand tusk
"I dont feel like it is"
short dirge
generic ass fish mixed features with bass name just cos
the only argument for it being a bass is the generic pattern
magikarp has the square mouth and barbels and tough skin so it's got all that, it's something
feebas's only bass trait is the name, imo
plucky arch
i think i agree with Riviera
plush vale
short dirge
yeah but the people writing Origin in Bulbapedia are guessing many times
it's a hit or miss
plucky arch
if its a simple fish pokemon its just kind of an amalgam of fish
grand tusk
It's clearly not just the name
short dirge
seriously, I bet they just were like, here's a fish, what name can we give it
grand tusk
you just refuse to accept the body color and spotty pattern are bass traits
short dirge
brown is not a bass trait
plucky arch
"uhh its a weak fish, feeble one could say, oh bass is a type of fish, Feebas"
short dirge
brown is the trait of like, every dang fish
teal grove
there's reasons why bulbapedia writers use words like possibly and seems to be when they arent certain
plush vale
"uhh its a weak fish, feeble one could say, oh bass is a type of fish, Feebas"
they do the jp name first which is hinbass
short dirge
if feebas was green, now we'd be talking
because even though there are brown bass, those are pretty rarely known ones
and the spots are completely random, not in the bass pattern format
so could equally be random markings
plucky arch
welcome to the IF server, the only discord server where you can argue about the biological inspirations of Feebas
grand tusk
Bass can 100% be brown
plush vale
plush vale
why is this debate in contest general
grand tusk
Due to this shift in pigment, largemouth bass can camouflage themselves when ambushing prey or when being pursued by a predator. If they are in clear water with plenty of weeds or cover, they usually have darker or clearer markings. When they are found out in deep water or even shallow muddy water, the pigment moves further away from the skin and can take on a faded or bleached out appearance.
short dirge
because everyone uses this channel for everything
short dirge
Due to this shift in pigment, largemouth bass can camouflage themselves when amb...
yes I know, I have studied bass
but that's the intensity of the black pigmentation
not a change from green to brown
teal grove
welcome to the IF server, the only discord server where you can argue about the ...
the kicker is that this isn't even #spriter-general
short dirge
so the markings on the lateral line change and sometimes they gain new pigmentation networks from the camouflage, but it's not relevant to feebas
...last I checked, people treat this channel as a sprite-general-2 anyway
grand tusk
and chickens aren't orange and have arms but nobody denies combusken being a chicken
short dirge
most contest questions are "direct contest sprites to somewhere else" or "just read the sprite-contest channel"
grand tusk
they clearly took parts of the bass and went wild with it to make it ugly for their ugly duckling reference with milotic
short dirge
guess we'll never know
grand tusk
and where did you find feebas in gen 3? rivers
short dirge
ok
and what does a fish being in a river have to do with it being bass
bass are more commonly found in lakes not rivers
they usually enter rivers when lakes flood and carry them into rivers
grand tusk
well, moreso that's its a freshwater fish
plucky arch
Feebas is just a dumb ugly generic fish
grand tusk
Does Hoenn even have a lake?
cedar quest
Why the hell are we taking about Feebas in contest general???
short dirge
why the hell are we debating the logic of Feebas at all
plucky arch
no clue i just joined the discussion
cedar quest
This is a spriter general topic 
grand tusk
Why the hell are we taking about Feebas in contest general???
I said I would eat a feebas because bass sashimi is good and Riviera disagrees that its bas(s)ed on a bass
even though its feebass
short dirge
I mean every topic in here is spriter general topics
grand tusk
and I never shy from drama on topics with 0 importance
short dirge
and I said feebas is just called bass because it's a funny name not because it is actually a bass, cos it has zero bass features
feebas is a normal "let's make a fish" fish
grand tusk
which I find stupid because they don't do that with any other fish pokemon
plush vale
barely any is prob more accurate than zero
short dirge
barely any being the colour scheme and markings
feebas is brown because it's supposed to be dull and ugly
that's the whole concept of it
grand tusk
yeah, they took a bass and made it ugly(er?)
just like how they took a chicken and made torchic
because the funny thing is that pokemon designs take an animal and change it
plush vale
it could easily yes it's an amalgam an they took some aspects from bass
short dirge
I wonder if the dex entries answer this at all
Feebas's fins are ragged and tattered from the start of its life. Because of its shoddy appearance, this Pokémon is largely ignored. It is capable of living in both the sea and in rivers
interesting that it lives in marine too, has that ever happened in the games?
grand tusk
wow the dex entries for it are depressing
plush vale
theres go promo art fo it in ocean
short dirge
yeah they went hard on the dull, ugly and useless lore
even more-so than they did for magikarp lol
short dirge
here's the part that's missing for me
if it was a bass
there'd be more bass-like lore for one thing
grand tusk
It eats anything, so it can even live in polluted streams and lakes. No one pays any attention to it.
short dirge
there's no mention of them being good game fish or sport targets, no mention of them having a big mouth, or chasing after large prey, or having camouflage
grand tusk
Yeah I dunno about that, pokedex entries aren't exactly the most well thought out thing
short dirge
you'd be surprised
but that doesn't help feebas's case for me
in Japan, bass are stocked in healthy waters and associated with clean streams that are popular with fishermen
plush vale
there's no mention of them being good game fish or sport targets, no mention of ...
well it's lore is kept quite similar to magikarp
short dirge
yeah, which admittedly, might be something they focus on so hard it conceals any bass inspiration they could have used
grand tusk
Magikarp is a pathetic excuse for a Pokémon that is only capable of flopping and splashing. This behavior prompted scientists to undertake research into it.
jesus christ pokedex
short dirge
can we agree on something though
we need more aquatic pokemon
it continually bothers me that there's an entire god damn ocean of inspiration and most gens hardly introduce new ones
teal grove
ALMOST FORGOT TO SUBMIT MY LAST ENTRY
short dirge
it's ok you have more than a day left to forget
teal grove
NO I DONT I CANT USE THIS COMPUTER TOMORROW
grand tusk
Water types have the largest number in pokemon though im pretty sure
short dirge
I had this whole huge fangame idea I wrote a design doc for once, basically just an entirely ocean pokemon game
teal grove
i want a Vampire Squid
oh yes
plucky arch
short dirge
vampire and firefly squid would both be cool
teal grove
I had this whole huge fangame idea I wrote a design doc for once, basically just...
IGN's bane
short dirge
plucky arch
I had this whole huge fangame idea I wrote a design doc for once, basically just...
thatd honestly be really cool
grand tusk
(IGN was right)
short dirge
0/10 too much water
plucky arch
id play an entire pokemon game where its all underwater
short dirge
but you'd basically be on a research vessel and there were two paths
plucky arch
(as long as its not all Water types)
short dirge
you could become a researcher or a pirate and join the other team
one was more battling, one was more exploring
plucky arch
like Stunfisk proves you can live underwater and not be water
grand tusk
Well without random encounters water based world is more appealing
teal grove
Ocean is scary
grand tusk
IGN was right about too much water, water areas were the worst parts of hoenn
teal grove
Reminds me of a horror story i once read about a submarine exploration crew
short dirge
I have a huge list of open ocean forms for stuff like taillow and deep ocean form luvdisc
grand tusk
nobody likes random encounters of the same 4 pokemon every 2 seconds
teal grove
They basically got really deep and picked up weird readings and the lights broke for a split second
They got the lights to go back on and they looked outside
Saw a huge, black reflective surface in front of them
And then it blinked
short dirge
Iron Lung is a good short horror game that came out recently
grand tusk
Was just thinking of Iron Lung
short dirge
Piloting a submarine with a limited view on an alien planet where there’s an ocean made of blood
And your only visual is a crappy low res camera that you can take pictures with every few seconds
plucky arch
Subnautica is also one of my favorite games just cause i do love me some ocean
short dirge
Endless ocean 2 was one of my faves
plush vale
And then it blinked
so a whale
plucky arch
Raft is also a good ocean game
plush vale
how bout that endless ocean
plucky arch
lots of good games where the premise is "Ocean" huh
teal grove
so a whale
Well considering the submarine was the size of a bus and the black thing they saw was the pupil, it was much bigger
plush vale
oh
teal grove
That's the horror part
short dirge
@cedar quest so when is the next contest
||New contest commemorating gen 5 with two different categories: black, and white. And you can submit 3 entries either between both or all into one||
grand tusk
I think it should be a feebas tournament so that the previous discussion counts as being on topic 
shy river
Kling to the Klang 
honest tulip
PLEASE VOTE FOR KLINKLANG
Can’t vote for it if it’s not even there 
cedar quest
<@259920814910996480> so when is the next contest
🤡
teal grove
Can’t vote for it if it’s not even there <:george:702893280769081364>
FUCK YOU
ocean crown
I’m so down to try some klinklang fusions
teal grove
Look if due to Contest Manager decisions Klinklang is omitted from the next classic contest poll ill just put it back in with my next win
ocean crown
That’s the spirit
I would love to choose klinklang if I won a contest but I would ah e to give my choice over to marshtomp first
grand tusk
I think
ocean crown
Middle evos need some love
livid tulip
I can submit my sprite tomorrow, right?
thick jolt
id choose galvantula tbh, also yeah pretty sure you can
ocean crown
I think so, the original message was made the 20th with 7 days to submit and tommorow is the 26th
teal grove
not klingklang, just klang
No
I despise klang
You got much more you can do with klinklang
teal grove
Except less colors and no ring
grand tusk
we can chuck the red
teal grove
Well id be tempted to use extra colors anyway
limber venture
i need to make a badass klinklang fusion sometime
thin dove
hello there, i was wondering if i should submit either my goopy Gardevoir Grimer or my other Goopy Gardevoir Ditto
I'm not nearly as fast as a lot of you so i don't have nearly as many done
teal grove
hello there, i was wondering if i should submit either my goopy Gardevoir Grimer...
Do any have to do with the Theme?
thin dove
Revival:
for Ditto: Ditto tries to recreate his dead trainer over and over again but can't get it right
For Grimer: guy tries to recreate his dead wife, what he gets is a melted goop (sort of like FMA when they try to resurrect the mom)
both are trying to be "revival gone wrong"
misty acorn
Havent seen the sprites but the concepts sound 
Ditto sounds like it would be easier to understand tho
thin dove
gardevoir/grimer & gardevoir ditto
....there's another gardevoir ditto???
i knew there was a first one that i had inadvertently made a mk. II for but now there's a third one. this is quite stressful
this contest is wringing my heart I swear, this is the third time in less than 3 days that this has happened to one of my contest ideas
hollow gull
When are submissions due again?
quartz locust
both are trying to be "revival gone wrong"
Like the Homunculi from Fullmetal Alchemist (the 2003 one)? 😅
thin dove
sorta?
quartz locust
Which, actually, would be pretty cool takes on the theme. An evil rebirth. 😄
thin dove
i did try to make possession! Gardevoir alts too with Giratina but idk how well they read
misty acorn
Like the Homunculi from Fullmetal Alchemist (the 2003 one)? 😅
Is there a difference to the 2011 one?
quartz locust
Is there a difference to the 2011 one?
Yes, in the 2003 one, they're ||the products of human transmutation. Ed and Al's mum is Sloth, for example.|| 🙂
thin dove
oh yeah, how do these brackets work exactly? are they open to everyone, everyone in IF, just spriters, or something else?
quartz locust
Everyone, spriters or not. 😄
In IF though, obviously, because it's an IF-run contest. 🙂
misty acorn
Yes, in the 2003 one, they're ||the products of human transmutation. Ed and Al's...
Ah, I didn't know that the story deviated that early
I always thought the first few arcs were the same until the 2003 version ran out of manga to adapt
misty acorn
23 more hours to think of an idea then
thin dove
i thought it was monday that was the cutoff?
short dirge
since there still hasn't been an official full deadline posted, who knows
it was supposed to be a week from the announcement, but the announcement wasn't posted at the time at GameR said would be the finishing time
and no date has been given as to when that time falls
misty acorn
Its a big conspiracy for sure
what are the contest managers hiding?
what is their secret master plan?
everything they say and do is perfectly planned and part of their master plan
we just gotta connect the pieces
short dirge
this is why you do not leave it to the last minute
easily solved
then do it now and don't feel called out :D
or give into the despair and realize you'll never win because there's going to be 200 entries
...and just make it anyway because why not
thin dove
you can do it!
thin dove
I believe in all of you!
limber venture
DONT GIVE INTO THE DESPAIR
thin dove
choose hope (but not Nagito he corrupted the concept)
short dirge
rezza is going to win and claim a victory for Team No Dithering
limber venture
the one with dithering is the best one
zinc lion
oh lol both of my entries so far have dithering out the wazoo
glossy oriole
does it matter if I post my entry in the gallery or in the drive first?
short dirge
dithering is an auto-pilot thing for me, I don't even consciously know what ones I use it on
you can post them to the drive first
I think some of us are posting in the gallery later
zinc lion
people are posting theirs exclusively in the drive, i don't know why
short dirge
...what's wrong with that
glossy oriole
people are posting theirs exclusively in the drive, i don't know why
Some people might feel like their sprite is too focused on the contest and not on the game
short dirge
threads here don't tend to get feedback unless there's a lot wrong with them
so it's usually kinda pointless
unless you want a lot of "wow that's awesome"
limber venture
but what if i want a lot of wow thats awesome
glossy oriole
Also, I assume I don't actually put the .png in the name if it's already a png
limber venture
imagine posting in spritework q's couldnt be me
short dirge
a lot of software do not let you save without a .png in the name
so that depends
if you are using a . already I mean
limber venture
my sprites are all so perfect i just gallery them straight away actually
short dirge
like in aseprite and csp, if you save something as "100.140".png it will break it
and you have to add the extension manually
why we need to save things in a broken format like that I dunno
I mean in general, you don't save things with a period dot in the name, that's silly
and it causes problems
limber venture
aseprite doesnt break for me when i save like that
glossy oriole
my question is, if it's already listed as a png file in my files, but doesn't have .png in the name itself, is it fine?
short dirge
it gives this error if I try
limber venture
i use export rather than save
short dirge
it's caused by a misplaced extension which is what happens if you add a "." to a file
it thinks you are putting .200 as the extension name
because that's what the period dot does in a file name
we should be saving stuff as 100-184 using a hyphen
graceful plank
yeah so you CAN save it that way on export only if you actively select the base folder
but yes I generally use a dash and then rename it after export
limber venture
i always select my base folder cause otherwise it goes into like the weird aseprite export folder
graceful plank
my question is, if it's already listed as a png file in my files, but doesn't ha...
yeah, most of the time you don't see extensions on windows. you can turn it on optionally
hollow gull
I have this but it's just procrastinating with every excuse
Like
Oh I need to start a whole new limb? Time to put this down for 4 hours
You love to see it
thin dove
i also have "oh i need to try this new thing? let's start an entirely new base"
my canvas is filled with half-done fusions ;_;
zinc lion
threads here don't tend to get feedback unless there's a lot wrong with them
i mean posting them just for the contest and not the game
short dirge
i mean posting them just for the contest and not the game <:Despair:850468339955...
some of us are shy about our entries
zinc lion
i would think entering them in a contest would be a lot more pressuring
short dirge
also more paranoia that people will steal ideas
short dirge
it still makes zero sense to me that people share their submissions around
that defeats the whole point of a contest imo, especially an art one
in 12 something years of sprite contests, this is the first time ever I've seen a community allow sharing and feedback of submissions
craggy remnant
i enjoy it tbh, im not very confident in my spriting abilities so its nice to have feedback
that being said i have had people finish fusions i was working on before i finished them up in the past but that wasnt for contests
zinc lion
yeah i get that part, but never posting it in feedback even after the contest is weird
personally when i see sprite ideas in spritework that i had, it incentivizes me to do a different idea but perhaps i'm a special case
craggy remnant
whats the countdown i wanna finish that mew sprite but i have school work to prioritize
short dirge
it's probably under 24 hours
or close to
here's my countdown that's 7 days from the announcement posting
but the actual deadline may differ from this
craggy remnant
okay thanks
man this sprite still looks too unlike dusknoir im gonna need to change the palette
i think i might make it shuppet at this point
kindred beacon
Mmmm maybe for it's belly it could have the same colour as it's hairs and the yellow can be used only on the small things like the stitches
But other then that it looks cool
odd garnet
What's this?
Dusknoir/Mewtwo?
zinc lion
i was a fool. i thought i could do a mega rayquaza sprite in a day...
odd garnet
How far did you do?
short dirge
Custom mega ray? That’s a pretty complex sprite to do
Probably not as bad as steelix but still up there
odd garnet
Definitely not as bad as Eternatus
graceful plank
i think i might make it shuppet at this point
is this supposed to be an FMA reference? lol
craggy remnant
it isnt but everyone thinks it is so maybe ill make an alt
craggy remnant
What's this?
Dusknoir/Mewtwo?
its supposed to be yeah but im thinking i should change it
balmy ibex
"fu.. ji.. oni.. san.."
craggy remnant
i mean. making pokemon fusions is kind of like making chimeras
ivory olive
you aren't wrong
odd garnet
Let's not discuss the ethicallity of fusing two Pokemon like it's fusing two living beings without their consent now xD
zinc lion
worm
lunar zenith
still igloo
ivory olive
too many hours
short dirge
raven carbon
Are we allowed to post our sprites here?
grand tusk
not really but people seem to do it anyway
cedar quest
8 pm
zinc lion
just in time to watch last of us
short dirge
8pm tomorrow or the next day
wind matrix
and what time zone
hollow gull
You still haven't decided on a time zone?
hollow gull
I forgor to turn off ping
knotty sphinx
Beautiful
crude cedar
I just notice I should may start with the contest entrys XD
odd garnet
Dude there's 1 day left
lusty pewter
don't know about 3 sprites but you def can do at least 1 sprite, just gotta rush :)
rare swift
especially if you keep the design fairly simple
lusty pewter
mhm
teal grove
142 entries but there are 2 drawings in the drive @cedar quest
Both by @eternal turtle
limber venture
theyve been pinged over it like 4 times now i think
weary pagoda
wait-
lusty pewter
looks like they're new to the server, maybe they just don't get the contest? that or they're purposely joking fsr
wind matrix
rule 7
zinc lion
had a dream the new sprite contest was already announced and it was just 'make sylveon lopunny'.
weary pagoda
polls haven't started yet 
zinc lion
not even lopunny sylveon, just that specific fusion
weary pagoda
(ok fine I'll move it lol
lusty pewter
pfft
wind matrix
While I was reading it?
read faster
weary pagoda
rare footage of staff member deleting their own message
after being called out by another staff member
odd garnet
COME ON DEADLINE
COME FASTER
DON'T LET THE ROSERADE CONTEST BE THE ONE WITH THE 2ND MOST ENTRIES
lusty pewter
next contest...
Hey guys, lets start the next contest! since our last attempt to limit the entries still resulted in too much entries, this time we will have a limit of only 0 entries per contestant. good luck :D
teal grove
looks like they're new to the server, maybe they just don't get the contest? tha...
Either way theyll get deleted
lusty pewter
yeah
teal grove
COME ON DEADLINE
COME FASTER
DON'T LET THE ROSERADE CONTEST BE THE ONE WITH THE ...
Even with 5 entries per person i fear the klinklanklontest wont reach 100 entries
lusty pewter
unless they... idk... replace the file with pixel art like right at the last second
teal grove
I can make Iron Bouquet
The nth klinklang/roserade
honest tulip
Even with 5 entries per person i fear the klinklanklontest wont reach 100 entrie...
Yea cuz klinklanklontest won’t happen with klinklang not in the poll so u’ll get 0 entries
zinc lion
i don't know why more people aren't doing roserade/klinklangs
craggy remnant
gears.
zinc lion
yeah true
teal grove
Yea cuz klinklanklontest won’t happen with klinklang not in the poll so u’ll get...
Die
Im putting it back in as soon as i can
Besides, you're not helping to make klinklanklontest a reality
honest tulip
Besides, you're not helping to make klinklanklontest a reality
wdym, I tried before unbeknownst of the poll system
honest tulip
yea hopefully the next winner plop it back
raven carbon
The contest ends at 8pm today, correct?
lusty pewter
if we assume the day the contest start as day 1 then yeah, but I think that counts as day 0 so tomorrow is the deadline. not sure doe
short dirge
Given how many contests there have been I’m amazed this sort of basic communication hasn’t been figured out yet
odd garnet
How many hours left though?
honest tulip
Given how many contests there have been I’m amazed this sort of basic communicat...
usually there's a timer but @cedar quest doesnt wanna put it
lusty pewter
iirc someone post a timer? wait hol up let me scroll up
short dirge
He doesn’t even want to clarify the ending date and time either
I posted a timer timed from the announcement
odd garnet
Am I just seeing things
Or has the amount of gardevoir entries went up from last time?
short dirge
Which is usually the time it ends but not this time
lusty pewter
https://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/3876432/revival-contest-ends
here found it
not sure if this is correct or not but...
short dirge
My timer here is a week from the announcement
lusty pewter
¯_(ツ)_/¯
honest tulip
Am I just seeing things
Or has the amount of gardevoir entries went up from last...
yes there is, so simp votes would be diluted
short dirge
Which apparently we now know is not the actual contest end time
honest tulip
the timer shld be q accurate
lusty pewter
well fortunately for me I already submitted my 3 entries so I should be safe
raven carbon
Great so I don't even know if I have the time to make my third sprite
honest tulip
just look at the time the announcement was made and add 7 days so posted on 20th feb would be 27th feb
unless shits start happening again and they delay
short dirge
the timer shld be q accurate
Apparently the announcement time was normally at the time of contest ending, but this time GamR procrastinated and posted it at 1am instead
So it actually finishes at 8pm est
1am pst is 4am est
raven carbon
As my first contest this isnt setting a very good precedent
short dirge
Which means the contest either ends 8 hours earlier, or 16 hours later
raven carbon
Are contests always this messy?
short dirge
Because we don’t know the exact day
stray condor
FINALLY FINISHED MY CONTEST ENTRY HOLY FUCKING SHIT
short dirge
No idea but it’s my first too
lusty pewter
just look at the time the announcement was made and add 7 days so posted on 20th...
this assume the announcement date is day 0, if they count it as day 1 then it be 26th. but then again idk. I'm (relatively) new to this server and this is my 1st time entering a contest so idk how u guys usually do this
stray condor
huge weight lifted
normal oyster
Nice timer aint it
short dirge
If they posted the announcement at 1am it could be late from previous day or early for the current day
lusty pewter
huge weight lifted
good work, good luck with your sprite (whichever it is)
short dirge
Either way the announcement does not specify date and time and this is pretty important basic knowledge for us to have
…more important for people who do it last minute, granted
honest tulip
jus... jus add 7 days guys it's more or less there
grand tusk
if you're doing it last minute then you deserve to miss your chance
short dirge
You don’t understand, they said it ends at 8pm est
Meaning the announcement time is either 8 or 16 hours off
That’s a lot of time
lusty pewter
true, ig that is a bunch of time wasted...
stray condor
if you're doing it last minute then you deserve to miss your chance <:Genesus:87...
I pretty much speedran 4 worlds on mine last minute
but damn Im so relieved rn
livid tulip
The votes start tomorrow then? 
teal grove
stray condor
man this is the most stacked contest by a lot
dawn ivy
And that for 3 entries max lmao
raven carbon
man this is the most stacked contest by a lot
Is the quality of entries usually a lot lower?
misty acorn
It's *because* of the 3 entries max
And because I've not entered 😎
honest tulip
Is the quality of entries usually a lot lower?
if i say yes, would that indirectly insult the past contest participants 
raven carbon
"Revival? Welp, let's use the zombie!!!" -Literally everyone, apparently
vivid sonnet
Maybe it's a good thing I procrastinated so long, since I doubt my ideas would have gone far anyways 😔
short dirge
I thought there'd be more phoenixes than zombies ngl
limber venture
Zombie easier to draw than feathers
grand tusk
shoulda done more skeletons
zinc lion
i for one would really prefer to know the day the contest ends
raven carbon
Same here
raven carbon
I'm hesitant to even work on my third sprite bc I might only have 7 hours
zinc lion
imagine missing the deadline when you don't even know when the deadline is
raven carbon
Missing the deadline when the deadline itself is missing
zinc lion
i think regardless of when the contest ends it would be fair to give an extra day since gamr should've been transparent from the beginning
fair for me specifically
limber venture
I think it would be fairer if everyone except me got disqualified actually
grand tusk
we had like 5 extra days last contest lol
limber venture
he shouldve used one of those discord time embeds
shadow sluice
doesn't it say "you have 1 week to enter"?
raven carbon
I should have my vote counted as 300 votes
normal oyster
Uh
short dirge
feathers are easy wdym
normal oyster
Why are there 2 non pixel art drawings in the drive
short dirge
people bring that up every hour
just ignore it
contest mods will deny it when the submissions end
normal oyster
I see
zinc lion
doesn't it say "you have 1 week to enter"?
we don't know if it's exactly one week or one week after the announcement
it's a bit of an important distinction especially since it's as short of a timeframe as this
shadow sluice
sorry i don't understand
i think it ends in about 13 hours
what is the other option?
misty acorn
it's a bit of an important distinction especially since it's as short of a timef...
If you need more time, just ping a contest manager and they'll probably extend the deadline by a day or two
zinc lion
would they do that for one person?
misty acorn
zinc lion
alright
@weary pagoda @cedar quest please extend the deadline
normal oyster
a bit more time wouldnt be bad
zinc lion
well i shot my shot
crude cedar
How much time do we still have?
normal oyster
no idea
shadow sluice
~13 hours?
normal oyster
it end somewhere tomorrow
crude cedar
oh sh** that means I have to do mine in the next 4-5 Hours since I have to work tomorrow XD
and its like 8pm XD
short dirge
last minute entrants scrambling and panicking at the last minute
IF the announcement time is the same time it ends, then there are 12 hours left
also lmao imagine if it ended sooner, people would murder
normal oyster
and its like 8pm XD
Same and i still need to correct my last one
normal oyster
also lmao imagine if it ended sooner, people would murder
Its just when you come home at 7 pm from work and you still have to write essay it kills ya
short dirge
the possibly ending range is basically 12 - 32 hours at this point
@cedar quest for the love of all that is holy please clarify ending time AND date, 8pm today, 8pm tomorrow??
normal oyster
A week is just a bit crap if you go to work
craggy remnant
ive just kinda given up on finishing my sprite on time if its soon i have schoolwork i gotta prioritize
short dirge
how long do y'all spend on your sprites
normal oyster
2 days
craggy remnant
imagine knowing the passage of time
vivid sonnet
I got distracted by the Siren Song of "having a PC that can run games”
limber venture
i havent played video games since i started spriting for this
craggy remnant
i have time blindness so thats my excuse
normal oyster
While spriting i dont draw stuff correct the first time and it annoys me and i change it a few times
short dirge
people also get the siren song of "I'll just do it later"
normal oyster
I should rlly start drawing it out instead of making the design while spriting it
vivid sonnet
Focusing on something is both easy and hard for me
craggy remnant
siren song of fuck around and find out
normal oyster
craggy remnant
me trying to make my sprites make a lick of sense
zinc lion
my steelix took me 20
short dirge
on my end I finish them all in 2 days and spend the remaining 5 days distracted waiting for the voting to start
so either way I accomplish nearly nothing in the week
craggy remnant
the super mario one? im not surprised
short dirge
steelix is a hugely optimistic one to choose for a contest deadline
zinc lion
if gamr isn't active tomorrow but retroactively disqualifies my 3rd entry once he is imma riot
teal grove
KLINKLANG FIRST
vivid sonnet
Steel type only contest?
teal grove
Monotype themed contest would be cool
short dirge
gamr doesn't seem to be active in general
limber venture
tbf the only staff member i see more than like once a day is thorns
short dirge
because of this lack of communication we should all be declared winners
zinc lion
who'd have the server icon though
limber venture
me
vivid sonnet
Every winner gets 1 pixel
limber venture
i call dibs
zinc lion
it changes every hour
limber venture
boom
short dirge
who'd have the server icon though
everyone
just make a collage of every sprite and that's the icon
or make an animated one that flickers between all of them
vivid sonnet
or make an animated one that flickers between all of them
RIP folks with epilepsy
short dirge
it doesn't have to be fast
the submissions are being reuploaded so much today lol
this is funny
hollow gull
Hey
We should do a specific type combination next time
Like everyone fuses random crap to make an electric/grass type
and then you just gotta be creative
limber venture
i think its a classic contest next time
hollow gull
Mmmm
Tasty
Wow this contest has forced me to improve a lot
I don't think my first sprite will make it past round 1
short dirge
tbh I think the person joking about winning being rng might have a point
because unless you can accurately predict what people want to see, and fulfill the contest simp meta, even a really good sprite might not go far
zinc lion
both of my entries got pretty far in the last contest and that was my first one so i have no idea what works and what doesn't
short dirge
yeah same
also what's the classic contest? one mon?
or classic being demakes to gen 1 style or something
zinc lion
first thing
but it can be a head or body
personally i find the head fusions much more interesting
short dirge
I assumed it had to be head
all the finals were heads I think
except for the one that won, so go figure
honest tulip
also what's the classic contest? one mon?
There will be a poll of 5 mons (each choice chosen by past contest winner) and we have to make fusion of the mon that won the poll (head or body is fine)
short dirge
imo there could be some really fun contest ideas like making an original mega evolution for a self fusion
honest tulip
all the finals were heads I think
depends how well u can execute i guess, if u get a gardevoir classic contest, the body probably has more potential
short dirge
lmao
honest tulip
imo there could be some really fun contest ideas like making an original mega ev...
there was i think? idk
short dirge
lopunny too
don't think it's about execution as much as a really solid idea
which can be very tough
raven carbon
If I win(not gonna happen lol not even close) I'm probably gonna suggest Dusclops
Really cool shit can be made with dusclops
short dirge
there are lambs yes
raven carbon
Good luck
May the phantom deadline be kind to you
crude cedar
Im sure I can finish Lambert in time and the other 2 ideas are pretty easy to do too and they are also good ideas
shy river
I started to work on my first Contest entry
this brings me a feeling of genuine chaos that im absolutely behind
crude cedar
I think I can already tell how they will do XD
crude cedar
this brings me a feeling of genuine chaos that im absolutely behind
And yes it will be hella chaos I love Chaos
hollow gull
There are people who get that close to the deadline?
crude cedar
I had a busy week okay XD
crude cedar
Finished my second entry whooooooooooo
One more to doXD
my english starts dieing lol
crude cedar
Should I just say F it and dont add my last idea? It would be Able the SCP a fusion between Cofagrigus and Gallade
zinc lion
Whew! Got it in with two hours (speculation) on the clock!
Wasn't my original idea but it'll have to do for now, I can do the other idea later
vivid sonnet
I submitted something, so I think I'm satisfied 
Best of luck to everyone who entered!
crude cedar
Im not gonna sleep tonight cuz I want to do my 3rd entry and if I sleep now and work tomorrow I wont be able to submitt it
Except it is still open to send stuff in tomorrow at like 8pm (living in germany using my time)
But if its exactly 7 days it will end tomorrow 10 am my time
crude cedar
Nah I will just sing dumb ways to die while I drive to work
I cant let the people wait longer cuz I had a helle busy week
And I cant do act like im sick cuz I didnt work for 2 months cuz I was in Winter Vacation
Or can I🤔
If I act good enough my Mom allows it and my working place can understand it if I tell them many people in my family are sick (whats actually true atm)
zinc lion
ask for an extended deadline
I already tried that
cedar quest
alright
<@470185403404779520> <@259920814910996480> please extend the deadline
No
You have 1 hour
hollow gull
But at what cost
Don't cry, your submissions were badass
Now we can
Make Aegirocassus
After like a few other fusions
I must suck to work with lol 😅
crude cedar
Still try to get a sick day tomorrow
cedar quest
I think a lot of you were overthinking it
If the announcement was made on the 20th (my time), then why the hell would it be today? That
That's not even the full week yet
wind matrix
That's not even the full week yet <:trolley:690075871322964017>
this is why you need to make the fancy time thing for the deadline announcement
cedar quest
byeah
zinc lion
Gamr why were you the only member in this server with that information
Not even the other contest managers knew
zinc lion
I was counting from the 20th 😅
short dirge
inhales
announcement posted at 4am est, saying it'll last a week
"guys I told you it ends at 8pm est, not 4am est"
this is a whole 16 hours different from the announcement time
everyone is confused, not even other contest managers know for sure
then you tell us "you guys can't read" despite this information not being presented anywhere until now
raven carbon
I still have a day!!!
crude cedar
Me too
I mean im happy I thought it would end sooner it made me finaly sit on atleast 2 entrys
grand tusk
I wasn't, y'all just can't read <:trolley:690075871322964017>
shoulda done a discord time embed
cedar quest
*inhales*
announcement posted at 4am est, saying it'll last a week
"guys I told...
your so right
anyways, deadline ended yesterday
Honestly, if this is what the new age of contests is gonna be. I don't want part of it.
vivid sonnet
cedar quest
Like it's just so much complaining
grand tusk
Didn't we get extra time for the roserade entries?
vivid sonnet
I feel as though if you are managing contests, you need to make peace with the fact that some participants will be annoying
grand tusk
Oh i'm not complaining, I'm just trying to remember
vivid sonnet
I don't remember there being an extension for the Roserade contest, but I could have just not been paying attention
grand tusk
I know there was a delay for trying to have a new poll system, so I can't remember if that meant extra time
Cause I had already finished mine
vivid sonnet
As far as I can tell, the contest ended at the intended time and the contest managers struggled to come up with a polling method after
limber venture
the real solution is to just finish all your entries the day its announced
cedar quest
The Contest team is already the smallest Staff team in IF, we are still looking for people, yet all that still happens is mass complaining
So, as it stands, this contest will be my last contest
And I'm retiring from being a CM
grand tusk
well shit
vivid sonnet
Hm! Very well, take care of yourself. What would a person need to do to apply for a contest management position?
crude cedar
Ngl I wouldnt want to be one
Looking that everything works
Trying to make it right for most people
Its for sure a shit task to do
short dirge
I mean I genuinely hope that a simple request for a stable deadline is not "annoying"
raven carbon
The Contest team is already the smallest Staff team in IF, we are still looking ...
I'm new here so I have absolutely no say for everyone else
But still, I'd like to wish you a happy retirement, and apologize on the behalf of all of those who made the position unbearable for you.
vivid sonnet
I also like the time embeds from before, but having folks constantly ask about it does sound annoying at the very least. No hard feelings here
limber venture
I feel like you overthought the time a little bit riv
short dirge
yeah but it's the difference between 16 hours more or less time
grand tusk
also its 8 hours not 16
short dirge
overthinking or not, that's very significant
short dirge
also its 8 hours not 16
4am to 8pm is not 8 hours
grand tusk
8pm to 4am
short dirge
well, that's the other direction
which was another reason I wanted it clarified
I don't care about the deadline because I finish stuff fast, but there were a lot of people here confused and I wanted this resolved for the good of everyone
grand tusk
shoulda just got it done before the last day then
short dirge
if it was a couple hours, fair enough, nothing to overthink about
but 8 or 16 hours is a huge jump in deadline
grand tusk
and yet you still overthought it
short dirge
I overthought something that was important for the contest and no one knew?
limber venture
Was it not just time of posting + 168 hours
short dirge
1 week
I mean I can't be the only one who thinks that wanting to know the duration of the contest is not to be dismissed as "overthinking"
zinc lion
I've only been here for a month but I'd be more than happy to fill in as contest manager if you're feeling pressured gamr
short dirge
I do apologize if my actions resulted in this outcome, but I do still believe that this was important information that needed to be addressed
unless we all want to laugh at the last minute entrants who can't figure out the deadline
grand tusk
no just the guy who submitted drawings
no this date was the most obvious and logical choice, you just went braindead over it
8pm est 7 days later
short dirge
Don't know about most logical, but either way, we shouldn't have to guess
raven carbon
We do realize arguing about it isn't going to solve anything
grand tusk
I like arguing
short dirge
well if this is a contest issue it can still be fixed for future contests
grand tusk
I won't argue that as a suggestion for future contests to add a timer
short dirge
but I don't see how the logical option was assuming that the deadline was 8pm the previous day from when the announcement was posted
grand tusk
4 am on the 20th -> 8pm the 27th, 7 days
short dirge
you said it was 8 hours
short dirge
trolling isn't particularly productive to this conversation
grand tusk
neither is being so annoying you make someone quit
short dirge
especially since a contest manager might be leaving because of the issue
thick jolt
i dont think this conversation is particularly productive
grand tusk
good
short dirge
🪦
raven carbon
Don't tell me this type of arguing is common for contests
grand tusk
Don't tell me this type of arguing is common for contests
it's not, usually we stick to spriter general for mundane garbage drama
thick jolt
if yall would like to carry on feel free to take it to dms but seriously?
grand tusk
Ew DMs
short dirge
if there's no agreement or resolution at this point, it is better to just drop the subject
vivid sonnet
At this point, it seems like Riviera's stuck on this one contest situation even though he himself said he doesn't care about the deadline. I think it's time to move on
short dirge
Well, forgive me for caring about the other participants :'D
grand tusk
I only used that for helping that one guy wih DB Legends or for sending mods info that I don't want users to see and try to delete to hide their actions
I would never use DMs if I could help it, I want the world to hear my voice (even if its text)
vivid sonnet
Caring for other people is nice, but arguing about a single point for a single contest isn't really helpful
limber venture
Cofagrigus contest when
vivid sonnet
Anyways
short dirge
well it's nearly finished now
thick jolt
cofa contest would be fun but your team is smashing it with the entries so by the time we get it thered be no fusions left
grand tusk
he wants to stop at 300 though
storm grotto
We ARE slowing down tho
raven carbon
Cofagrigus contest when
Snubbull contest when 
grand tusk
he's trying to buckle at the last stretch
limber venture
It would be suuuuuuch a shame if everyone started making cofas so i couldn't get 84 before it's done
short dirge
it'll get towards rhyhorn family not being done and then stall for weeks
limber venture
It would be suuuuuuch a shame if everyone started making cofas so i couldn't get...
I would be so sad
limber venture
it'll get towards rhyhorn family not being done and then stall for weeks
Erm... rhyhorn and rhydon are done already
storm grotto
It's just rhyperior as always lol
vivid sonnet
Rhyperior 🤢
limber venture
Victor you do rhyperior
thick jolt
i kinda want to do a proper rendition of munchlax snorlax, working on my smough inspired one was acc quite fun
limber venture
You're the rhyperior guy now
You did one rhyperior and this is all you will be forever
storm grotto
I did Pyukumuku/Rhyperior to fill the Rhyperior part of my personal chart, never again
thick jolt
(why is rhyperior hated on?)
storm grotto
He's annoying to recolor and edit
limber venture
He destroys the spirit of the line.
storm grotto
Besides from the fact that he really is ugly and does not fit with the rest of the line
limber venture
this one is too hard idk what to pick
grand tusk
haters don't like that rhyperior is 10 times cooler then the other 2
shadow sluice
Besides from the fact that he really is ugly and does not fit with the rest of t...
its the other 2 that dont fit with him
storm grotto
Okay, make Team Rhyperior then
raven carbon
I could try my hand at Cofaperior once the contest concludes
cedar quest
...that part of the form is a bit outdated
limber venture
i like the extremely blurry picture of a dabbing slowpoke at the top
storm grotto
I could try my hand at Cofaperior once the contest concludes
How muck money would you need in compensation?
grand tusk
...that part of the form is a bit outdated <:trolley:690075871322964017>
🫡 Good luck soldier on non-contest endeavors
You still gonna be mod? Cause I feel you then
out of the frying pan and all that
raven carbon
How muck money would you need in compensation?
Enough to buy a pc that can actually play IF 💀
storm grotto
That's.... Sad to think about
vivid sonnet
Admittedly, don't dislike Rhyperior as much as I dislike Magmortar
grand tusk
I still maintain that Fraxure, as the mon with the least amount of fusions, should have a contest
unless a new unloved idiot has won
storm grotto
Admittedly, don't dislike Rhyperior as much as I dislike Magmortar
At least Magmortar has the decency of following the lines theming
raven carbon
I still maintain that Fraxure, as the mon with the least amount of fusions, shou...
Are you saying there are less fraxure fusions than Stantler!?
thick jolt
stantlers in this?
shadow sluice
rhyperior is way better than boring rhydon and rhyhorn
vivid sonnet
At least Magmortar has the decency of following the lines theming
It doesn't have a little beak mouth tho...it looks...extremely unfortunate
raven carbon
stantlers in this?
Sadly, yes.
limber venture
rhyperior is way better than boring rhydon and rhyhorn
you will be boiled
grand tusk
Are you saying there are less fraxure fusions than *Stantler!?*
apparentely
grand tusk
you will be boiled
you can't stop the truth, hater
storm grotto
Are you saying there are less fraxure fusions than *Stantler!?*
You see, you think of Stantler when you think "oh, I want to do a forgotten Mon" so at least it has that going for him
Which is not Good either, but you know
vivid sonnet
Middle evos have it rough
storm grotto
They really do
grand tusk
they deserve it by being ugly 80% of the time
we can't all have a grovyle in our life I suppose
Some get stuck with rhydon
storm grotto
I was going to say Combusken
raven carbon
I would like to see a Deoxys fusion contest
I haven't seen many Deoxys fusions that make my jaw drop