event-general

[odd garnet]

Yeah maybe no spirits as well since there are a ton
Lol

Even Metapod got a spirit

[ivory olive]

Also no trophies

Too many trophies

[odd garnet]

Misty's Nightmare contest
Fuse the creepiest bug xD

[odd garnet]

When the KlingKlang contest happens

Me making a Roserade fusion:

https://tenor.com/view/bored-fidget-spinner-boring-stress-reliever-gif-14465365

[teal grove]

Speaking of

Xeno, now that youve had the roserade contest, do you want to help me make the klinklanklontest a reality?

[honest tulip]

No

[teal grove]

Yes

[honest tulip]

we shld hav qwilqontest instead @cedar quest

[odd garnet]

I think I wanna help Fraxure get some sprites
So if I win I'll probably choose Fraxure for the next contest

[misty acorn]

Contest idea: The low effort contest

Entries must be as low effort and as quickly made as possible, but they also need to fullfill all the rules for a fusion

Example:

[opal wadi]

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Aegide/custom-fusion-sprites/main/CustomBattlers/406.407.png

[lethal rivet]

Genuine question, WHAT percent completed is roserade at this point 😶

[crisp cargo]

14% heads, 16% bodies according to the sheet but there's probably a fair few sprites not accounted for since they haven't all been posted to the gallery

[odd garnet]

I'm gonna contribute a lot of bodies

[teal grove]

Ok but

Just voting on klinklang for the next classic contest

Because iirc if it doesnt get chosen for the next classic, itll be replaced with a new mon in the next one

And then ill have to go and win another contest just to get it back into the votes

[odd garnet]

No problem!

I wanna make Fidget Spinner Roserade as well

[honest tulip]

Fraxure

[odd garnet]

Really? OK what about Latios?

[honest tulip]

pineco

[odd garnet]

The choice of what Pokemon were choosing doesn't affect the votes right?

[teal grove]

It dont

[grand tusk]

yoo I had the same idea, give the least loved fusion some stuff

[rocky sandal]

When the semis-poll is going to be posted?

[ivory olive]

Never :D

[crude cedar]

Probably either Tonight or Tomorrow if it's small enough for a roster, or if it's too long then it's guaranteed to at least be ready some time this Tuesday

[grand tusk]

I was told Fraxure has less

[plucky arch]

Fraxure has the least amount of fusions, with like 50

[swift crow]

i noticed alot of the second evo starters tend to be way less popular than the rest of the line sprite wise

yeh, just makes you always get stuck with an autogen sprite during a playthrough if you keep your starter around

the kanto trio are pretty good about having full evo paths if you pick the right fusion partner, it gets worse the newer they get though

yeah, prinplup and marshtomp are abysmal

[plucky arch]

we should definitely work on the starters i think, always sucks when your starter doesnt have many cool fusions

[swift crow]

like i think piplup and mudkip only have one full evo line not fused with other starters, and both only came out recently

[zinc lion]

Unown is also a trophy

semis where

[rocky sandal]

At least i got to the quarters

Good luck, everyone!

[weary pagoda]

Press F5 / Ctrl+R

[zinc lion]

i'm on the app lol

[swift crow]

i mean, i am exaggerating, but yeah, prinplup and marshtomp tend to be a downer for your evo line most of the time

[zinc lion]

noooooooo i was rooting for the steelix (we can talk about losers right)

[weary pagoda]

yep!

[zinc lion]

never been this sad about beating someone in a contest

[plush vale]

theres too many good entries

[odd garnet]

WELP Stress time 🥲

[teal grove]

A 3 round semifinals

That's a new one

[odd garnet]

And I have an entry on each round 😵

[cedar bay]

Fuck off.

[odd garnet]

Ah Sorry

[ivory olive]

Damn

[zinc lion]

woah woah woah

[ivory olive]

You're very angry aren't you

[limber venture]

Well that seems uncalled for

[ivory olive]

That's possible

[wind matrix]

did I miss something?

[odd garnet]

I probably said something that sounded rude
My bad

[wind matrix]

doesn't look like it to me

[odd garnet]

Well I did delete my previous statement just in case

[wind matrix]

ah

[odd garnet]

||"Yeah, all my entries won their prelims round"||

[wind matrix]

lol grats

but also not rude

[odd garnet]

Thanks 😅

[grand tusk]

Fuck off.

[wind matrix]

it was a level 10 responce on something level 3 lol

[wind matrix]

no u

[grand tusk]

uncalled for Thorns

[wind matrix]

[grand tusk]

Just what I expect from a dog kicker

[odd garnet]

The semis of the Roserade contest looks really tough

So there will be 6 finalists this time?

[teal grove]

none of my entries won their prelims round

[wind matrix]

Husk actin like he's in the cool club

[grand tusk]

same Husk, lost all at the beginning

[wind matrix]

shoulda made a waifu

[grand tusk]

I think i should be allowed 5 entries next contest to make up for this

[odd garnet]

Did the winners of the quarter finals skip the Semis?

[wind matrix]

yes

they'll be in the finals

[teal grove]

i blame the voters for having bad taste

and i blame them for voting with their dong instead of their eyes

[wind matrix]

I hope they voted with their mouse

[teal grove]

anyway if you-know-who wins, im just fucking giving up on these contests lmao

[odd garnet]

That's odd
I see the winner of Quarters 3 in Semis 2

[wind matrix]

Guess I'm wrong then lol

my b

[teal grove]

hey you're right, @weary pagoda

[wind matrix]

I might stop doing contests because with the massive influx of people, I have no chance of wining

[odd garnet]

Quarters 2 winner is in Semis 2 as well

[weary pagoda]

yeah

Winners of quarters no longer go to finals

[odd garnet]

I guess it would suck if the 2nd or 3rd placer in the Prelims gets to the finals when the winner gets eliminated in Semis huh

[teal grove]

i hope the system i made gets used in the next contest then lol

[misty acorn]

My chances of winning back when we had like 10k members was close to zero, now it is in the negatives I'm pretty sure

Still gonna participate whenever I feel like it or I have an idea I really like tho, cuz its just fun to be a part of these

[teal grove]

im gonna study the poll results of this contest extensively to find if there's a meta different from "ooga booga waifu"

[crisp cargo]

considering roserade is seen as a waifu i don't think you'll have much success

[ivory olive]

People who wanna fuck Roserade need therapy

[teal grove]

you know what im talking about

[misty acorn]

Hyper complexity or just kaijus usually get you there too

[wind matrix]

na, they just need a plant mom

[crisp cargo]

just be a good spriter smh

[odd garnet]

When your favorite Pokemon is Roserade and you Google their sprites only to see one with big boobs on the top of the lists...

[ivory olive]

It's a plant, plants don't have tits

[wind matrix]

WHAT ABOUT MILK PLANTS

[teal grove]

same with mimagius

[wind matrix]

[odd garnet]

So does Gardevoir and yet fanartists keeps doing it...

[teal grove]

you mean almonds?

[ivory olive]

...what

[wind matrix]

lol

[teal grove]

fuckin "milk plants"

[odd garnet]

Nonono
Coconuts

[wind matrix]

Xeno makes a good point

[odd garnet]

Milkweed

[wind matrix]

sexyist plant right here

[ivory olive]

They look like honeydew

[wind matrix]

it's coconut

[inland pollen]

So you are attracted by Alolan Exeggutor

[ivory olive]

What is a coconut but a weird honeydew

[wind matrix]

not me, the people who are into roserades

[inland pollen]

But that's Alolan Exeggutor irl for me, not Roserade

[wind matrix]

[teal grove]

ah fuck it

[odd garnet]

Just gonna ask
But has there ever been a participant who has gotten all their entries in the finals before?

[wind matrix]

maybe

[teal grove]

no wait not like that

very poor choice of words

[inland pollen]

XDD

[swift crow]

honestly my favorite i have been regularly voting on isn't a waifu, but i don't know if its much better 🤣

[wind matrix]

rule 7

[swift crow]

i know, hence why i didn't say which one

[wind matrix]

[odd garnet]

What is as a Waifu anyway? What counts as one?

[teal grove]

vaguely humanoid

[swift crow]

i guess if you find it attractive and its femanine

[odd garnet]

When your favorite type is Grass...

[swift crow]

there are alot of grass waifu pokemon

[teal grove]

lilligant is apparently one of them

[ivory olive]

Well yeah, they want pollen

[swift crow]

lilligant, bellosm, roserade, leavanny, lurantis, tsarenna, and maybe a few others that fall under there for some people

[inland pollen]

"For some people" yeah sure

[teal grove]

the internet doesnt care

[odd garnet]

Why are 3 of my favorite grass types in that list???

[misty acorn]

What about ?

[ivory olive]

You're a horny bastard, duh

[swift crow]

i mean i don't chose what people make waifus 🤷‍♂️

depends on who you talk to sadly

[inland pollen]

If you wanna end like a strainer...

[odd garnet]

Just make one
Voltorb Ferroseed

No wait you need arms

[misty acorn]

Doesnt stop me

[swift crow]

honeslty though, i like alot of the "waifu" pokemon, but just becasue they are cute

[inland pollen]

We need more husbandos

[swift crow]

we do have one in the vote

[misty acorn]

[inland pollen]

True, but just one

[odd garnet]

I like Roserade because it's a cool Masquearading flower and I like the Masquerade theme like with Masquerain and Meowscarada

[misty acorn]

Roserade is sick

Design wise and color wise

And because it manages to have a human proportion design without just looking like a cosplayer

[odd garnet]

And here I am turning it into a cosplayer

[misty acorn]

You're fine, yours are highly epic

Especially the rule 7 one, you know which one I mean

[odd garnet]

It's a MEOWGICIAN

[ivory olive]

I hate you

[swift crow]

i like meowscarda, but thats not saying much since i haven't played SV

[ivory olive]

Meowscarda is the new hornymon

[odd garnet]

Tights?

Sweater?

[swift crow]

but then again my favorite starter is primarina, so i already get wierd looks

[teal grove]

correct

[odd garnet]

But it has the same legs as Braixen and Lucario
Do you see them wearing Tights as well? XD

[teal grove]

you innocent creature

the internet definitely sees braixen's legs as tights

[inland pollen]

Rly?

[ivory olive]

Lucario is probably the most horny pokemon for people that like dick

[swift crow]

i think its best we don't talk about what the internet does to that poor pokemon 😢

[odd garnet]

Yeah...
When the Egyptian skin came out for Lucario on Unite...
I think I saw some users on twitter acting all... Weird xD

[ivory olive]

That's saying furries don't like tits, which is just wrong

[loud scaffold]

What does this have to do with contests

Lmao

[odd garnet]

And then Maid Glaceon was revealed and the reaction was like "POKEMON! DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'VE DONE!!???" XD

[swift crow]

man, unites skins are something i really wish the mainline games had, it would be so nice to be able to customize our pokes

[loud scaffold]

Microtransactions tho

[odd garnet]

That's something that would take a lot of time...
Give them to Smash instead

[teal grove]

well originally we were complaining about how the new meta was people making sprites of waifumons because a lot of the voters think with their hormones instead of their head

[odd garnet]

And then someone said that it was pointless because Roserade was categoriezed as a Waifu mon

[loud scaffold]

The meta is stupid but the good artists always win so I don’t complain

[odd garnet]

I mean sure I made a Roserade Succubus
But you can turn any mon into a succubus thanks to Aerodactyl wings and tail

[swift crow]

i don't neccesraily mean like going all out like that, just something, hell i would settle with putting a bow on my pokemons head

[muted island]

whats a waifumon ?

[odd garnet]

It's just Digimon girls

XD

[loud scaffold]

Lmao nah pay $5 for a 3 pixel bow on your mons head

[swift crow]

generally any pokemon people consider a waifu (lopunny, gardevoir, braixen,etc.)

[loud scaffold]

All of my sprites got eliminated but that’s ok because brackets were stacked as fuck

[inland pollen]

Or with Crobat
Crobat/Gardevoir is definitely a Succubus

[swift crow]

i haven't been a fan of the gimmicks pokemon has been adding since mega evolution

[muted island]

like feminine looking mons??

[odd garnet]

That's cause unlike other monster collectors like Digimon and Yugioh
Pokemon doesn't have any actual human monsters for fans to be infatuated with like Angewomon or Dark Magician Girl

[tough lark]

Man… It’s really something seeing some of the Pokémon I’ve loved since I was a child get so much nsfw treatment…

[swift crow]

pretty much

[tough lark]

Lopunny and Gardevoir… I had so much respect for them

[loud scaffold]

The internet ruined Pokémon

[tough lark]

I still have a lot of respect for them lol

[odd garnet]

Just by giving them breasts...

[tough lark]

Yeah… Man the things I saw even when I was little hbfn

[loud scaffold]

I don’t even think it’s a waifu pokemon problem, I think in general Pokemon had been substantially changed by the internet

[swift crow]

i wouldn't really call yugioh a monster collection game, maybe shin mega would be a better comparison

[teal grove]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[odd garnet]

What does Bakugan have? Elfin?

[loud scaffold]

Stfu I don’t have the skills you got

[teal grove]

my man i was thrown out in the first round

[muted island]

no wayyy what

[swift crow]

man, i just want pokemon to add something to make it worth playing again, but i admit i am just extremly jaded

[loud scaffold]

My man I was thrown out in the first round like 3/4 times I’ve entered contests and you won

[muted island]

what was ur sprite again husk

[loud scaffold]

Lmao you just good spriter

[teal grove]

i blame people having bad taste

[odd garnet]

Well it's just that in the past 2 entries, a certain Pokemon has won them both
So now there's a bit of a grudge against that pokemon

[misty acorn]

These look very rule 7 I must say

[loud scaffold]

Based Pokémon choices

[muted island]

dang those r pretty good

[teal grove]

i put all my hopes into that honchkrow ;v;

[teal grove]

did you miss the part where i lost in the first round

[swift crow]

all i know is i like more sprites, so i guess i win no matter what 🤣

[odd garnet]

Furret should have gotten further
It's offering us Flowers!

[misty acorn]

I didn't look at those results because I already knew how my entries would do

[tough lark]

What sprites were yours?

[teal grove]

cant even bribe people with a bouquet smh

[teal grove]

scroll up

[odd garnet]

I like how you did Scythers hands

[muted island]

the scyther one was one of my faves

sucks

😔

[tough lark]

I like that last one the most

[loud scaffold]

It’s unfortunate how many good ones there are and how much time people put in these to get voted out first round

[muted island]

definitely a fierce competition

[loud scaffold]

But that’s how contests work

You either the best or fuck off

[teal grove]

here's hoping my system gets used in the next contest, which votes out less sprites each round on average than now

[tough lark]

There are so many good sprites… It makes it so hard to vote

[odd garnet]

I know the feeling
Got eliminated in the first round in the loading contest when I had a lot of Confidence on my entry
Definitely a humbling experience but it still hurts xD

[teal grove]

i really hate how

[loud scaffold]

I got 3rd when I thought I would be elim 1st round because half the entries in my bracket were jokes

[teal grove]

by far my best sprites yet

[tough lark]

Can’t wait for when I can enter one 🙃

[teal grove]

were made after the start of the roserade contest

and arent even roserades

that feeling when you make a banger sprite but CANT submit it

[loud scaffold]

Lmao I haven’t made a sprite since my last Roserade submission

[odd garnet]

AJAJSDNSKADKSNNSSDMDKS

[odd garnet]

YUP!

[teal grove]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

suffering from success

[odd garnet]

Just imagine submitting the legendary weather trio as all your entries xD

[loud scaffold]

Bro how tf am I supposed to do anything when people put bangers like these out

https://tenor.com/view/cant-compete-compete-cannot-compete-cant-stand-gif-16282836

[tough lark]

On the bright side I’m happy to know we get all these sprites in game hehe :D

[odd garnet]

How I did it was I made 8 entries and just choose the top 3 out of them

[loud scaffold]

All 8 of your entries are better than all of my sprites I’ve made lmao

[odd garnet]

Nah
I just really like Roserade and have an advantage in making the sprites

[teal grove]

i made my fuckign klinklang/galvantula after my roserade contest entries and it got OVER 66 REACTIONS AND I COULDNT SUBMIT IT

[loud scaffold]

Can I have your advantage pls

[odd garnet]

This is why I'm holding off making Magikarp Roserade or Figet Spinner Kling Klang Roserade

Strategy!!!

[misty acorn]

Go back in time to when entry numbers were unlimited

[loud scaffold]

I want to make good sprites pls I want to make people happy with sprites

[odd garnet]

How I fuse mons is that I drew all my bases from scratch

[tough lark]

Yeah that one is super cool

[odd garnet]

My Roserade sprites all have different poses

[loud scaffold]

Literally what I did and the one I spent the least amount of time on got the farthest and the one I spent the most amount of time on got the fewest votes

[odd garnet]

The more unique the pose is
The better the sprite

[misty acorn]

Yeah, Xenoph is based

[loud scaffold]

Bro scrolling through the gallery alone makes me feel like shit lmao

[misty acorn]

And Xenoph has better played Xenoblade 🔫

[teal grove]

i draw all my bases from scratch as well, it's actually pretty easy once you get the hang of it and it gives out really good results

[odd garnet]

I uh...
I know the story and am a fan of 3

[misty acorn]

Okay thats enough

Otherwise you'd have to have changed your name

[odd garnet]

But just like Danganronpa and Persona... Am a fan
But never played the game 😅

[misty acorn]

Thats just the rules

[loud scaffold]

I can’t copy Pokémon proportions for shit, I’ve been trying to do my pyuku/grovyle and it just looks fat

[odd garnet]

Oh come on Xeno was my username before I even know Xenoblade 3 existed

[loud scaffold]

Wait until they use new AI generator sprites in a few years

[misty acorn]

Uncouncious xenoblade 1 and 2 influences

[misty acorn]

Ai fusions sounds shit but AIs making custom bases for us sounds epix

[odd garnet]

It was supposed to be named after the Xiphactinus I caught at Wii's Fishing Resort but I forgot the spelling!

[teal grove]

ai pixel art is incredibly shit

[loud scaffold]

I have an uncomfortable feeling that my work will be completely outdone by an AI in the future

And nothing I did really matters since an AI can do it in 7 seconds far better than I ever can

[teal grove]

best you can do is get an ai generated fusion (if it even looks like a fusion) then pixelate it using an online pixelator and then clean up the 100+ colors

[tough lark]

I don’t think so. AI just take other people’s work without permission as ‘inspiration’ anyway

The fusions at least are just combining official sprites

[loud scaffold]

Clearly nobody gives a shit, you see all the people on twitter stealing our art and praising AI art and shit?

[odd garnet]

Here's a tip
Get the original body's sprite and make it transparent
Then draw over it
Not trace, draw
You'll easily figure out if the body is too fat or thin if you have a reference behind your drawing

[loud scaffold]

It’s gonna happen someday

[tough lark]

Yeah and I see just as many artists speaking out against it.

[vivid sonnet]

AI art is cringe

[teal grove]

eh, ai wont take over artists' jobs

[odd garnet]

Like with me
When I draw Roserades
I first draw the head by drawing a circle around the transparent Roserade's head
Then I just add in the details

[tough lark]

So unless artists are ‘nobody’ then idk what to say

Especially since all of us here seem pretty real

[loud scaffold]

Imo eventually

[teal grove]

the people who pay artists are people with an eye for art. People who genuinely think ai art is better dont have a good eye for art. Same thing as interpolation videos

[loud scaffold]

It will get better

[swift crow]

i don't know, i have never seen ai art be able to replicate the "soul" the art done but real artists has

[loud scaffold]

AI will improve and become basically perfect, humans will never be perfect

Not only that but AI is so much cheaper

[teal grove]

cuz like, if interpolation to 64 fps was so good, then why does literally no professional industry or show use it. Like, at all.

[swift crow]

it always feels somewhat lifeless no matter how good it looks

[vivid sonnet]

Artists actually understand what makes art art, and even if AI makes "better" art, the AI doesn't really understand the elements of art or what makes art special for people

[loud scaffold]

But does it matter when “good art free”

Ok that’s psychology I don’t understand lmao

[vivid sonnet]

That's why we need to RISE UP AGAI- is banned

[teal grove]

look, if you're worried about that, dont be. The people who pay for art wont move to ai art. Like i said, the people who pay artists are people with an eye for art. People who genuinely think ai art is better dont have a good eye for art.

[swift crow]

yeah, but if we are honest the people who use AI art to get free art wouldn't of paid for art to begin with

[loud scaffold]

Idk I think I’m just downplaying my own art if anything

[vivid sonnet]

bonks you BE NICE TO YOURSELF

[swift crow]

like if someone is just looking to get something for free they never would of been willing to pay for somthing to begin with, thats just how people work

[loud scaffold]

I’m allergic

[teal grove]

also, maybe it's just my autistic ass going half-OCD, but like, i can recognize AI art in mere seconds. Stuff always has an uncanny valley feel to it for me

[vivid sonnet]

Impossible, get therapy

[odd garnet]

Hands
Lol

[tough lark]

AI art and hands… Eyes can look off sometimes too, probably because artists use so many different styles for eyes

[teal grove]

it's the most obvious one, but ive got a fuck ton of other details i can see

[loud scaffold]

I would rather not go into this

Anyway ai hands suck

[swift crow]

yeah, there is always this wierd element to it that makes it so recognizable, espiecially when its based on an existing property

[odd garnet]

Even I have trouble with hands when drawing
Glad Roserade only has Roses xD

[vivid sonnet]

Just the other day my friends were clowning on an AI art stan who said they made the "perfect Buddha" art and it was a white man lookin statue. AI art stans are morons

[limber venture]

I wish ai art had been used to like help concept artists and stuff like that instead of being adopted by people who cant draw and want free art

[loud scaffold]

I think it was unavoidable this would happen

[teal grove]

actually, stuff has been used like that. Do you know what interpolation is?

[tough lark]

It’d be cool if AI art used art they had permission to use as ‘inspiration’

[swift crow]

yeah, at the end of the day if people aren't going to spend money to comission anyways then you really don't lose anything in the long run

[loud scaffold]

Again I think this is impossible to make work especially since people will just flock to the one with unrestricted access

[limber venture]

yeah it is used for that purpose, ive seen a model that can make really accurate turnarounds just from the front of a character, but its mostly the Ai art bros who are like "heh...! these damn greedy artists! now i never hve to pay them!!"

[tough lark]

Yeah I know which sucks

[loud scaffold]

Blame society

[vivid sonnet]

Capitalism is poo poo

[tough lark]

Yup

[teal grove]

see, interpolation in general sucks. However, there are programs that actually give artists control over it, and those do look good

[swift crow]

like if AI art didn't exist those people still wouldn't pay for commisions, at the end of the day they are pretty much a non factor

[odd garnet]

Whose the most capitalistic Pokemon? Meowth?

[swift crow]

gimmieghoul

[vivid sonnet]

Gimmighoul?

[odd garnet]

Ooooh right

[loud scaffold]

Fucking gold cheese string man

[odd garnet]

Reddit gold

[tough lark]

Found a server that makes AI character bots in which the art reference for the character has to be AI art… Except… Why?

[limber venture]

but yea stuff like this is super cool since you can make it from existing chars

[tough lark]

What if someone had the talent to… Idk make it

[teal grove]

anyhow, ill drop yall 2 vids surrounding AI-interpolated animation. Because animation is very close to the art we're discussing, many of the arguments can be copied over for or against AI art. I highly suggest you to watch them, especially you @loud scaffold https://youtu.be/_KRb_qV9P4g https://youtu.be/OhcLATiI9Is

[loud scaffold]

Already have

[limber venture]

I dont like when people say like "hahaha this interpolated animation looks soooo bad are they stupid???" its not meant to replace the existing animation

[tough lark]

That’s so cool wow

[limber venture]

its more of like a science project than anything

[loud scaffold]

And I agree with the takes (for todays technology) however I still think that in the future they will get better

[odd garnet]

Technically Pokemon Fusions without a custom fusion are fused via AI no?

[swift crow]

i mean, not everyone has the talent or patience to be an artist, lets be fair

[limber venture]

It would save professional concept artists so much time, its pretty cool

[tough lark]

Okay but… Using AI art is a requirement not just like… Allowed

[loud scaffold]

I don’t think the argument that “it’s human therefore it is better” will hold up in a few years when it gets to the point where it’s indistinguishable

[teal grove]

some people would like to disagree with you. The same people that believe ai art is gonna replace real art

[swift crow]

this coming from myself being a failed artist

[odd garnet]

And that's when we go back to traditional oil painting in a paper canvas

[wind matrix]

no, it's made with a program, but not an ai program

[limber venture]

i dont think ai art will replace real art for a while

[loud scaffold]

Impossible because people are idiots

And it’s not sustainable

[vivid sonnet]

If your only motivation for making art is to sell it or to make it better, and not from some sort of interest in making art itself, then of course you're going to get demotivated with the AI art fad

[wind matrix]

ai art has to steal from real art in order to do stuff

[loud scaffold]

Literally me

My only motivation to making art is to give it to others for a better purpose

[limber venture]

yea you can still always make art for yourself

[wind matrix]

I mean, you still need to be able to afford food

[teal grove]

AI =/= algorithm

[vivid sonnet]

That's why you probably need to ask yourself, "do I like making art?" and if the answer is no in every context, maybe do some soul searching

[teal grove]

algorithms have existed since the ancient greeks, computers have just popularized them

[vivid sonnet]

And yeah, making money is important. But that's why having an art job is so difficult

[teal grove]

and also made them much easier to do

[wind matrix]

and ai art is making it more difficult

[vivid sonnet]

Yeah, I'm mostly trying to say if you don't get anything out of art and you don't have to do it for work, maybe it's time to take a break

[loud scaffold]

Honestly I do find the feeling of somebody praising me for my art better than the feeling of actually making it

I really hate the feeling of after I make something and looking at it like “yeah this is absolute shit I hated this”

[vivid sonnet]

Validation is important! But that's sadly not going to happen for every piece of art you make, so you need to learn to be satisfied about making it, if only until the next time you make something

[loud scaffold]

But then somebody goes “oh you’re so good at art” and I feel like I need to continue

Because it makes that person happy so I gotta do it more right?

[swift crow]

i don't know if i agree with that, the people who us ai to create art likely never would of been willing to pay for commissions anyways, if anything its just that people are broke nowadays

[tough lark]

One of my art professors is basically like ‘why do we make art to show to people? validation’ so I mean shrug I just don’t think AI art can ever totally replace human artists, especially when its human artists that they’re basing their work on

[odd garnet]

Look not every client will be interested in AI art
There will be people who will support traditional artists and call upon others who will support them as well. Not everyone has the mind of a corporate entity whose sole reasoning is to find the cheapest and most effective method. There will always be clients who'd want non AI art, especially with how much backlash it's getting hehe

[loud scaffold]

Ratio’d by my art is complete ass

[ivory olive]

AI art is like politics, I really don't get it, and I think most people hate it, but the few who don't mind aren't horrible people or anything, and if AI art makes them happy, that's ok

[odd garnet]

Then practice
Keep drawing
Study anatomy, colour theory, gain cnc. Keep improving and improving

I started drawing sticks when I started drawing art

[vivid sonnet]

I know it's a joke, but you need to stop saying that if you want to feel good about your art. You're reinforcing your negative mindset imo

[loud scaffold]

It’s not a joke I seriously hate my art

I want to get better but I feel stuck

[vivid sonnet]

It's super hard to break out of but you can work on it

[wind matrix]

Then practice and find a style you like looking at

[honest tulip]

That feeling has faded away for me. I now get joy from seeing people go ‘what’s the server icon’ and can’t find the sprite

[wind matrix]

that will go away soon

[swift crow]

like i can use my self as an example of what i mean, i don't use ai art because i don't like the implications and i always feel the product is inferior to something done by human hands, but i am also broke, i couldn't afford a commision even if i wanted too, and i think alot of people nowadays are in that situation

[loud scaffold]

I’m gonna hop off before I go into my mental black hole of negativity

[honest tulip]

But yea, I fking lost the joy and excitement of making sprite to make people happy

I jus sprite for completion role now

[vivid sonnet]

Take care friend ✌️

[wind matrix]

I can't afford comissions so I just draw what I want instead

[teal grove]

i dont like ai art because when i make art i want to be able to say "i made this" and not lie like an asshole

[wind matrix]

hug

[loud scaffold]

I will attempt to take shit into consideration but will probably not but see you guys later

[honest tulip]

Then the simp mermaid shall be gone, turn to dust

[odd garnet]

So...
Should I make a Batman Roserade with Crobat?

[wind matrix]

some people have it in their game

[tough lark]

I make sprites to make myself happy… Every time I see a fusion I want that doesn’t have a custom sprite/one I like very much I’m like ‘GRAAAAH’ and then make it

[limber venture]

making sprites is really fun, im glad i joined this server because i forgot how much fun pixel art is

[odd garnet]

Brb
Turning my Milotic/Roserade into a mermai- kidding... I NEED TO SLEEP XvX

[honest tulip]

The ultimate flex: The ai make art with me, for me, by me

[ivory olive]

Only if you make a Darkwing Duck with Golduck and Crobat

[tough lark]

You know what? Make all the mermaids you want. Just make them like. Super extravagant. Super out of this world. Make people want to kneel before your mermaids.

[vivid sonnet]

I would make more simp sprites, but my favorite ideas are just weird little guys. Real scrungly scrimbos

[honest tulip]

Good, it shall be a reward for them knowing how to put in custom sprite and where to find it. Idiots who can’t read can’t use it

[teal grove]

the ultimate flex is making an ai art generator yourself so you can always say you made this

[limber venture]

Ai art is fun because i can imagine my computer as a little goblin creating countless paintings for me working endlessly day and night. thanks, painting goblin

[swift crow]

true but keep in mind not everyone can make the ideas in thier head become reality from lack of talent, time, or interest, i mean hell, if i had any talent i would be trying to make my dream games instead of hopping sombody comes vaguely close to them for me

[wind matrix]

Do this, and then only use it on your own art

[honest tulip]

YES EXACTLY

[tough lark]

Bonus points if the art generator pulls from art you made and art that’s free use… Like a second you to support yourself

You but as an AI artist

[honest tulip]

Imagine u made an AI who can just do crazy shading

[vivid sonnet]

I think I tried making simp sprites for this contest and I lost 😹

[honest tulip]

And u start going around fixing people’s shading in a second

[tough lark]

You make an AI art generator, tell it how to shade, and just make it shade your art for you dhsnbd

[odd garnet]

Wonder if I can open commisons where people pay me to sketch a new pose for their sprites

[tough lark]

I wonder what Pokémon the next contest will be on

[vivid sonnet]

I know some people want a very particular mon that's not fun to sprite

[tough lark]

What mon?

[vivid sonnet]

||Husk will not shut up about Klinklangcontest||

[teal grove]

OK FUCK YOU LMFAO

[wind matrix]

LOL

[vivid sonnet]

😹😹😹

[teal grove]

IT'S SPELLED KLINKLANKLONTEST

[tough lark]

HHDSNDN

[vivid sonnet]

I'm sorry Husk, I say this with love

[wind matrix]

Husk, pay me money and I'll make you more klingklang sprites

[tough lark]

That would be… Something

[limber venture]

klinklang contest would be a surefire way to ensure we get less entries than last time so the managers dont need a new system

[vivid sonnet]

I would join the contest no matter what the mon is bc I like winning

[tough lark]

I think it’d be a cool contest. Klinklang can make for some interesting sprites. I like the ones that look almost like steampunk touched with fantasy

[teal grove]

look

is there a single klinklang sprite

that looks bad

[vivid sonnet]

There have been some kickass robots made with Klinklang, I'll give ya that

[teal grove]

i dont think so

the average quality for klinklang sprites is like

very good

[tough lark]

It’d certainly be a brutal contest

[vivid sonnet]

I think Klinklang body sprites are just intimidating to me from an art perspective

[teal grove]

hard work with great rewards

[teal grove]

ok i dont

[limber venture]

i think my klinklang sprite is good :D

[teal grove]

care about the bodies

i want the heads

[limber venture]

And this is completely true

everything covered in gears

Goes hard as fuck

You could take anything and put steampunk and gear aesthetics on it and it'll be awesome

[teal grove]

in other words; give me head

[wind matrix]

They're also very easy to mess up

[ivory olive]

Take me out to dinner first then we'll see

[livid tulip]

Uhh

[tough lark]

THERE’S AN IRON MAIDEN KLINKLANG FUSION? Alright then hdndbd

[vivid sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/animal-crossing-chanbanhi-so-no-head-phone-smash-gif-15178588

[honest tulip]

Klinklang sprites are dull and the details overload my tiny brain, bad mon for fusion

[teal grove]

youve made like

some of the best klinklang sprites imo

[honest tulip]

Not even 1%

[teal grove]

your idea for glowing lights to be incorporated into the fusions to be more robotic was genius

and im probably gonna use it in my next klinklang sprite

[vivid sonnet]

I should start stockpiling ideas for the eventual, inevitable Klinklanklontest

[honest tulip]

No, stop, he’s brainwashing us

Noooo

Jirachi is to be voted nxt contest

JIRACHIIII

[vivid sonnet]

(hope I got it right that time )

[tough lark]

The biblically accurate angel Klinklang… Epic

[swift crow]

yes please

[tough lark]

Ouija board Klinklang?

[honest tulip]

Jirachi was the first team I’ve joined, and I put it back into the grave pls revive it

[tough lark]

That would be so cool

[teal grove]

klinklang is also to be voted next contest

i think

[swift crow]

i love jirachi, it was the first of the mythicals i got legit becasue it came with the colloseum bonus disc

[tough lark]

Oh I saw those ones

I… Honestly wasn’t sure what they are sorry but they did look kinda cool don’t kill me

[swift crow]

hell i said i wasn't going to have a legendary on my team and then i saw jirachi lopunny and i kind of died from cute

[tough lark]

Just saw it… It is so cute

I love Lopunny a lot so I like Lopunny fusions a lot but unfortunately it’s categorized as a waifu mon…

[swift crow]

yeah, both mope7 and fansta's sprites are so good

[swift crow]

the waifu people can be damned, gardevoir is my favorite pokemon and i'll never aplogize for it

[tough lark]

Saw the Mimikyu/Lopunny fusion recently… It is so cool

[tough lark]

🤝

I love Gardevoir too, I play Pokkén Tournament where it’s my main

I love its winning animation’s it’s so cute and proud of itself

I also like the moveset and well… Gardevoir itself hdjs

[vivid sonnet]

Psychic/Fairy is a pretty good type combo iirc

[swift crow]

R/S/E was always my favorite gen, so alot of my favorites come from that gen

[tough lark]

OH BOY I DIDN’T REALIZE THE JANUARY SPRITE PACK WAS RELEASED! It’s like Christmas all over again!

[vivid sonnet]

POGGERS?

[tough lark]

Except there are already more cool sprites in #sprite-gallery … Maybe I’ll have to grab them individually like the little sprite hoarder I am

[vivid sonnet]

I think this means my sprites are now officially in the game…🥹

[swift crow]

i just find my self grabbing sprites and adding them constantly, apparently i already had 1000 of the sprites from the January pack 🤣

[tough lark]

That’s what I’m gonna have to do I think lol

[livid tulip]

Is there some contest staff that I could contact right now?

[limber venture]

gamr is manager and is online

[livid tulip]

Great, thanks!

[tough lark]

Tried doing that before the January sprite pack was released and quickly realized there are too many sprites for that but maybe I can catch up this time…

[swift crow]

i just grab what i think i might use, but i do that way more than i probably should 😥

[tough lark]

I keep thinking ‘maybe I’ll look for a sprite in sprite gallery if I find a fusion in game that I don’t have a sprite for’ and then I find out that the fusion doesn’t have a custom sprite or something and then I’m like ‘guess I have to make it then’

[vivid sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gif-25117042

[tough lark]

Me with the Charmander/Fletching evolution line I’m working on rn

I’m almost done with the main line, just need to finish Charizard/Talonflame

Don’t wanna post ‘em to spritework until that one’s done ‘cause I want to post them together

[honest tulip]

Quick! Someone snipe it and do charizard/talonflame

[tough lark]

NOOOOOOOOO

[normal oyster]

[tough lark]

Gonna have to open my W.I.P. immediately and finish it before it’s too late

I do expect someone will wind up making a better Charizard/Talonflame but I want my line to look connected and for some reason it doesn’t exist yet

[normal oyster]

Faster

[tough lark]

Oh no

[swift crow]

i wish i could do that, but sadly i'm no artist

[vivid sonnet]

It's never too late to try something new

[swift crow]

tried and failed that years ago

it was more that i just wasn't enjoying it

[vivid sonnet]

Yeah, no pressure

[swift crow]

Never really had any talent for it and always got frustrated i couldn't make what i wanted to look the way i imagined it in my head

[vivid sonnet]

Yeah, even for artists that can be tough. I'm honestly really amazed whenever an artist says they have aphantasia, ie they literally can't imagine pictures

[swift crow]

like you give me a base canvas in something like spore or miitopia and i will spend hours tweaking every tiny detail till i get exactly what i want, but you give me a piece of paper and a pencil and tell me to draw and you may as well be asking me rocket science

like you give me something where i have pieces to chose from and make something out of them and i will try my damndest to make a masterpiece

[vivid sonnet]

I feel that tbh. Having some sort of prompt or limitation makes it much easier for me to know what to do

[swift crow]

honestly thats why i wish the pokemon games would implement some kind of accessory system, the creative power there would be unreal

[zinc lion]

we can do a contest of pokemon only featured in pokken

[tough lark]

At least you can make sprite requests?

[swift crow]

I have, but mine is probably a tad strange for anyone to pick it up

It's kirlia vibrava, I wanted to see the whole Gardevoir flygon line get completed

[tough lark]

Oh that'd be cool

I'd love to pick up all kinds of sprite requests 'cause the fact that they don't always get picked up makes me sad but between my three art classes and the sprites I'm already working on @~@

If only I could duplicate myself lol

[rustic palm]

yeah, unfortunately the Shadow Clone Jutsu doesn't work in real life.

[gray igloo]

Man the politoed didn't make it, still a very good sprite @vagrant thorn

[vagrant thorn]

Thank you ☺️

[vivid sonnet]

I also loved that Politoed! Even if it doesn't win I'd love to include it in my ver of IF

Looks like it's already in officially

[swift crow]

yeah that politoed is so good, i already have it added to my game

[odd garnet]

Proposal!
Top 3 goes to the finals so that there'll be 9 Finalists

There's just so many good entries and I think a 9 person finals just makes a nice Square

[tough lark]

The Politoed was so good... It should've made it

[odd garnet]

I wonder if people make alt accounts to vote again

[honest tulip]

That will be so fked up

How many alts do they hav to make to actually sway the votes

[odd garnet]

Don't know
The most votes I've seen for a sprite here is up to the 100s

[keen nymph]

man its getting real hard to choose what to vote for now

[odd garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-stewie-stressed-traumatized-gif-17329609

[keen nymph]

that was one of the options I was considering actually

[odd garnet]

I just hope the Roserade fusion, the other Roserade fusion, AND that Roserade fusion makes it to the finals

Although it would be pretty sad to see that Roserade fusion eliminated

It's just that I like the other 2 Roserades in that bracket better

BUT THERE'S JUST TOO MANY ROSERADES TOO CHOOSE

[quartz locust]

I really struggled deciding what to vote on, all amazing entries in their own right. ❤️

[silk bolt]

my favourite still here, hope it will win

[odd garnet]

I'm scared to see the results ngl

[crude cedar]

Exactly. They're all so good!
I'm torn between so many sprites.

[quartz locust]

I genuinely think it's anyone's game here, every sprite has its own merits. 😄

I will use the results to decide which sprites are more likely to appeal to the masses in future contests.

[honest tulip]

||make sprites for simps ||

[odd garnet]

I need to find the anti-meta

Using Roserades of course

[silk bolt]

gonna sprites lopunny

i wanna be lopunny completionist

simps gonna love me

[slate lintel]

good man 👍

[silk bolt]

i know i know

[grand tusk]

the simp meta lets gooo

[swift crow]

Honestly the best lopuuny sprites are the ones that don't try to be simpy

[zinc remnant]

fr fr

[odd garnet]

Twitter is fawning over Raichu/Lopunny though

[loud scaffold]

NOOOO NOT THE EPIC LAZER ROSERADE

[teal grove]

well this wasn't expected at all 🚎

[loud scaffold]

Man I’m so sad that one didn’t make it

[grand tusk]

after all that talk too

[loud scaffold]

That one was so sick

[grand tusk]

you can talk about ones that lost

[fading lodge]

If you sit in Contest Polls for a little bit, you can watch all the votes go in. Kinda interesting.

[grand tusk]

you spying on votes

[crude cedar]

Thank god, screw the Gardevoir Fusion. It was necessary for the Roserade/Gardevoir Fusion to lose.

[teal grove]

OH SHIT I DIDNT NOTICE THAT

ITS A VICTORY AGAINST THE SIMPS @honest tulip

[grand tusk]

we talked about simp meta and it didn't even happen

a bit rude to shit on the design itself though cause it is pretty cool

[teal grove]

no one shat on it

[loud scaffold]

I’m surprised the Giratina didn’t make it

[grand tusk]

I'd say "screw the Gardevoir Fusion. It was necessary for the Roserade/Gardevoir Fusion to lose." is a bit of shitting on it lol

[teal grove]

it's not shitting on the design, it's shitting on the simp meta

[zinc lion]

not mentioning any specific one but i'm really surprised to see what made it to the finals

[loud scaffold]

I understand why each one made it tbh, there’s a certain quality to every one of them that appeals to the voters

[zinc lion]

haha it's more like pleasantly surprised not like bewildered lol

[normal oyster]

I think ppl just like stuff they know or can see a reference sometimes

Ofc also eye candy

[zinc lion]

my heart goes out to everyone who's fusions lost

[loud scaffold]

Poor chandelure

[grand tusk]

crazy that the machamp one went out, i'd thought it'd get to finals

[crude cedar]

Yeah... I probably should've given mine actual Raikou Claws/Paws instead of just Golden Flowers.

[loud scaffold]

Oh shit it was litwick I am stupid

[zinc lion]

poor seaking, was also rooting for that one

[loud scaffold]

It definitely has that “basic gen 5 style” that all of the finalists don’t have

In my opinion

[grand tusk]

Surprised by spiderman not getting further seeing as it's spiderman

[crude cedar]

Yeah... And I give my heart out to the fusions that couldn't be finished in time.

[short dirge]

Are all these being added to the game eventually?

[grand tusk]

if they added it to the sprite gallery before feb 1st some are prob in there already

[short dirge]

My choice is based on good pixel art, clear design and clarity of detail, so there’s always been an obvious choice each round for me

[loud scaffold]

I don’t think that just applies to contests, in general people like sprites with a unique style

The shading and posing are a huge part

[short dirge]

600 entries would be a great addition to the game for roserade fusions

[normal oyster]

They not all in

[zinc lion]

these are all being added to the game, save for the dupes which will be voted for in #main-sprites-voting

[normal oyster]

The game

[crude cedar]

For example, one of the Fusions I noticed was that somebody had a WIP that was going to be a Klinklang/Roserade with a design that looked similar to 2B.

[grand tusk]

I'll enjoy my Rayquaza/Roserade being in the game for one month before Xenophacilus' completely destroys my design in a main sprite vote

[balmy ibex]

my fusions as soon as they went into the semi-finals:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/737765817474744350/1067582927300472902/emoji_fucking_dies.gif

[short dirge]

I like all these final designs but only 2 of them really convey what I’m looking for in a good fusion and pixel art technique

[normal oyster]

They were all good the sprites

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-retsuko-aggretsuko-uneasy-anxious-gif-18081066

My reaction when the polls started:

It was even hard to chose smh

[short dirge]

Having said that I doubt anything I make will ever get to finals :’D

Too many good creative people

[grand tusk]

it won't with that attitude

[normal oyster]

Not only that ppls skills are evolving exponential

[teal grove]

i made a prediction at the start of the contest

even before it started

[zinc lion]

i didn't think i'd make finals either

[short dirge]

Way too much competition

For that sorta thing

[teal grove]

and im probably gonna have made a right prediction

[normal oyster]

And server getting bigger to

[short dirge]

Especially because the things I judge sprites on are not always something others will

[grand tusk]

less entries next time though

spend your time honing and perfecting your one sprite, I spread my time out between 3

probably a lot I could have improved

I say probably, I mean absolutely

[short dirge]

Yeah people could submit 3 I heard

Honestly probably makes it easier in a way since if one design isn’t popular you’ve got two more chances

[loud scaffold]

And people like to spend more time on one and then speedrun the other two

[short dirge]

Picking a design that you know people will generally like is a challenge

I don’t know about you guys but I usually don’t end up accomplishing much past the first day or two in a sprite

it becomes nitpicky fast

[grand tusk]

thats why you submit to spritework and have people give advice or have spritework-questions give you a bunch of post it reactions

[short dirge]

Oh you can do that huh

Thought you couldn’t post or discuss contest submissions

[loud scaffold]

The problem is that you aren’t guaranteed feedback

[lunar zenith]

My fusions not even starting semis:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/737765817474744350/1067582927300472902/emoji_fucking_dies.gif

[loud scaffold]

I posted multiple sprites and got zero feedback

[grand tusk]

then you repost on #is-my-sprite-ready until you do

thats what i did

it works eventually

[short dirge]

Though if my sprite needs feedback I’ve probably already failed as an artist

[rare swift]

you also gotta pick the right time of day for feedback

[balmy ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/kdrama-handshake-shaking-hands-gif-26102712

[loud scaffold]

This is true and that’s really fucked up imo

[grand tusk]

I got super nitpicky on my vibrava/volcarona and felt it was unfinished then I posted to spritework-questions and got like 6 post it reactions

[lunar zenith]

I just say it on #spriter-general in the middle of thr conversation so a mod tells me to ask on sprite questions and I guarantee myself some people

[short dirge]

Wait but it still says you can’t discuss contest submissions, so why can you post them into general chats?

[normal oyster]

I got lucky i got a free week for the contest but like normal days when i go work its barely gonna be one

[grand tusk]

you can't discuss them during votes

[rare swift]

I wouldn't call timezones fucked up, but I agree that it can be annoying sometimes

[loud scaffold]

Time zones are fucked up

[grand tusk]

'This also means before voting begins, so no discussion on sprites until they are out of the voting or until voting is done. Posting the sprites in spritework to receive feedback is an exception to that, however, so feel free to discuss work in progress sprites there before they are submitted to the contest. '

[zinc lion]

if you read the rules closely it says posting them in spritework is an exception

^ bluebonz beat me to it

[grand tusk]

so you can't discuss them here or once they're submitted, but you can still get feedback

I beat everybody, Im the fucking best

[teal grove]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-crying-sad-gif-22404680

my fusions not even starting quarters

[grand tusk]

except the contest

where I lost first round for all 3

[rare swift]

The real big brain move is making 210 epic designs without there being any contest and only turning them into sprites when a competition happens

[lunar zenith]

I really wanted my Klinklang/Roserade to be on semis

[grand tusk]

then ypu're just waiting, and you can't even get feedback for them since you aren't allowed to use sprites from before the contest

[lunar zenith]

It isn't even in the Klinklang chart 😭

[short dirge]

I imagine only the simp bait submissions get a lot of feedback

[teal grove]

there were 2 klinklang/roserade

[rare swift]

drawings/designs aren't sprites per se, but it would be pretty pointless to make 210 drawings only to not turn them into sprites

[grand tusk]

ah, I thought you meant sprites when you said designs

but I also didnt read

[lunar zenith]

Three, if you count the other one

[short dirge]

I’m surprised so few custom bases made it in

[grand tusk]

cause you literally said in that same sentence

[short dirge]

Thought people liked custom bases

[grand tusk]

apologies, Im a DBZ fan

[loud scaffold]

What do you mean? Finals are pretty much exclusively custom bases

[lunar zenith]

In chronological order
First one -> mine -> 2B inspired one

[glossy wagon]

I really like everything that was in this contest mannn y'all are good at this whole spritey thing

[teal grove]

right, forgot about that last one

[loud scaffold]

Hehehehe 2B that’s me hehehehe

[teal grove]

dont underestimate yourself mister contest elite four

[lunar zenith]

I would understand if you left the first one because of how choppy it looked

But mine?

[glossy wagon]

I didn't even make an entry I just like all these thingies people make

they are nice

[lunar zenith]

It was right there

[glossy wagon]

roserade e4 posts lowkey going to explode imo

[teal grove]

im gonna be honest topus i didn't vote for your one, but i did vote on the first one

[lunar zenith]

I ain't mad about the voting, that isn't my deal

Is about the sprite chart

[grand tusk]

It's been out of the vote so long I forgot about it, but I always wondered about the Lanturn sprite

why is it.... fat?

[teal grove]

first come first serve

[short dirge]

honestly it's cool you can garner so many sprites out of a contest like this

helps get the needed ones going

[lunar zenith]

I don't wanna sound rude

But that's a lot of bs

[loud scaffold]

I’m stupid what did I misread

[zinc lion]

oh i'm the stupid one

[loud scaffold]

We can be stupid together

[grand tusk]

actually, im the stupid one

you two arent allowed to be stupid

[swift crow]

Damn, I was really rooting for roserade/gallade, such a good sprite

[zinc lion]

i thought you said that finals are usually custom bases, not that these finals are all custom bases

[teal grove]

king peggy made the sprite chart based on what popped up first

[lunar zenith]

Well, sorry for going full Karen mode in this topic but I don't think this is fair

[honest tulip]

The rise of the furries

https://tenor.com/view/hell-elmo-angry-fire-flame-gif-4604455

[zinc lion]

yeah i picked the most recent one. i will wait until the main sprites voting to see which one of these two will be counted

[short dirge]

lopunny contest time

[swift crow]

Yeah, it's funny, I already had a roserade planned for my team, the contest just kind of sealed the deal

[honest tulip]

Damn just took a peek of the conversation, can’t believe people are complaining charts in #event-general

[teal grove]

i dont think this matters at all

the chart are just to check for completion rates

you dont need to make such a fuss about it

[glossy wagon]

as far as I know, the roles aren't even handled via the 'official' charts anyhow

so it has basically 0 bearing on anything

[grand tusk]

I actually handle them

its my secret job

[glossy wagon]

bluebonz secret staff confirmed

[grand tusk]

You may have though I only joined late January, but notice my account date is 2016? I was here in secret this whole time

[inland pollen]

I liked that Roserade/Gardevoir cuz it was really artistic and cool u.u but, if it didn't got on finals, welp

[swift crow]

Yeah, I really liked it, but there were so many good sprites against it

[inland pollen]

Yup

[honest tulip]

side note: this is a joke
@teal grove we found the simp cult member

[grand tusk]

I argue that the mismagius one is the closest to the simp design, though I still think it's an awesome design

[loud scaffold]

Not related to the current contest, but what mon do we think is gonna win the poll for the next basic contest?

[honest tulip]

common classic contest W

[swift crow]

But yeah neither of my top picks made it either, I was rooting for roserade/gallade and gliscor/roserade

[honest tulip]

jirachi hopefully

[inland pollen]

So u are the cult member?

[loud scaffold]

I think the next classic contest will be Deoxys just based on how it did last poll

[honest tulip]

never

[inland pollen]

Same

[honest tulip]

fk deoxys, give me my jirachi

[loud scaffold]

Is Jirachi even an option

[teal grove]

you are sentenced to death

[honest tulip]

it's supposed to, I put it in for winning aegislash classic contest, but katten forgot to put into poll

GamR said he will make sure it's in the nxt poll

[loud scaffold]

Classic Katten moment

What’s even the completion on Jirachi’s chart?

[honest tulip]

idk

it's been q a while since i checked the jirachi chart

[loud scaffold]

I thought it was pretty filled up

At least the heads

[honest tulip]

it's slightly higher than 50% ?

[silver merlin]

katten moment

[swift crow]

Come on more jirachi sprites!

[misty acorn]

Probably one of the hardest times I've ever had voting

[plucky arch]

theyre all so cool

[crude cedar]

Gosh.. This is so difficult

[vocal vault]

Can I voice my opinion on sprites that aren't in the finals?

[teal grove]

sure

[vocal vault]

Me surprised non the gentleman sprites (machamp and golurk) reached the finals

[honest tulip]

Sexism

[vocal vault]

i don't remember any madams submissions

[teal grove]

roserade/gardevoir, for one

[vocal vault]

ok i don't know how i missed gardevoir

[teal grove]

klinklang/roserade

the lopunny

etc.

[vocal vault]

lemme guess this one is yours?

[teal grove]

it isnt

none of the 3 are

[vocal vault]

gasp

[timber radish]

It’s not sexism because fusions mess up the gender

[swift crow]

yeah, roserade/gallade didn't make it either

[plush vale]

theres just so many good ones to reach 6 slots

[swift crow]

yeah, the whole contest was stacked with quality

so many good sprites

[minor forge]

i can't react to the stuff in contest polls help

wait figured it out

[vocal vault]

But they are all good to be in our games

[plush vale]

yeah theres loads of things that were worthy of winning well outside finals, and that's not to knock anything in it, there were just more than there were slots

[short dirge]

So where are the pixel trophies for the winners

[short dirge]

yoink

thanks

[static heron]

Darn, both of mine got knocked out of the finals

Tbf I’d be really shocked if my first ever contest entry made it to the finals, so im proud they both made it to semis

Wonder who will win though

[odd garnet]

Nooooo
I got triple knocked out TvT

[deft kite]

nooooo the machamp one is gone

[odd garnet]

Maybe I should have submitted more Roserade heads... Nah
Roserade bodies > heads
XD

Nah its fine
I'm just glad that all my entries made it to the semi finals by all three of them placing 1st in the prelims
THANK YOU GUYS EVEN THOUGH YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHO THEY BELONG TOO xD

[short dirge]

notice how the person whose profile about-me says "no gardevoir in the contest" entered gardevoir in the contest prior and apparently won

[plucky arch]

tis cause Rush won with a gardevoir fusion twice in a row

[wind matrix]

TWICE

He doesn't want anyone else using his strats

[odd garnet]

And now look what happened
No Gardevoir in the finals

[short dirge]

Guess I know what I’m doing if there’s another contest :p

[wind matrix]

that's because roserade is already a waifu

[grand tusk]

next contest will be theme "simp"

[wind matrix]

I want a contest to be cat

[grand tusk]

beauty and the beast where you use an ugly pokemon and a simp pokemon

[wind matrix]

would jynx count as ugly or simp

[grand tusk]

beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so it would depend how the artist does it I suppose

(I say ugly)

[short dirge]

Are there plans for another contest though?

[grand tusk]

no, this is the last one ever

[short dirge]

damn

I can’t believe it

[odd garnet]

Not really a fan of pokemon with big lips
Medicham's cool though

[wind matrix]

I wasn't asking about medicham

[wind matrix]

Ask @cedar quest

[short dirge]

@cedar quest are there plans for another contest?

[grand tusk]

medicham is Xeno's choice of simp mon, obviously

[short dirge]

froslass

[grand tusk]

what's your ugly mon choice then

[grand tusk]

so I'm guessing you ask because this was your choice

[wind matrix]

I just feel jynx is one of those that can go either way

[grand tusk]

ok then go on, tell us your choice for ugly and simp mon

whats your beauty and the beast combo fusion

[short dirge]

Beast wasn’t that ugly

[wind matrix]

slaking and milotic

[wind matrix]

beast was way better then his human form

[grand tusk]

well OK Riviera Disney probably didn't expect furries when they made it, but its called "beauty and the beast" for a reason, the whole point is that it's meant to be a monster

[grand tusk]

... you wanna the fish??

[wind matrix]

I was thinking it had pretty colours ok!

[grand tusk]

I mean, i've been saying simp mon this whole time

[short dirge]

I don’t even mean in a furry way beast was not a hideous design for intentional reasons

[grand tusk]

this is like, on you Thorns

[odd garnet]

Not really
I did a Randomizer once where I try to beat the game with only my randomized starter, which was a Meditite

[short dirge]

Because no one would empathise with him if he was actually ugly

[odd garnet]

I learned why everyone loved the Pure Power ability that day

[wind matrix]

we were talking about beauty and the beast too ad it mixed me up

[grand tusk]

Well then Xeno, go on, tell us your real choice of a fusion for ugly and simp mon

[odd garnet]

Hmmm
I don't really simp for mons

Ugly mons, well I don't see a lot of mons as ugly

[grand tusk]

dunsparce

[odd garnet]

Dunsparce is doing it's best ok! XD

[grand tusk]

its a disgusting creature

[odd garnet]

If I were to call a mon ugly
I think the most obvious pick would be Bruxish
There's so much going on in that design for just a tropical fish

[grand tusk]

not a fusion choice though

[short dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/justin-fish-uk-fish-teeth-fish-justin-discord-justin-fish-pokemon-gif-22340848

[wind matrix]

dunsparce is not ugly!

[grand tusk]

its actually an F tier design

[short dirge]

eyelashes

[odd garnet]

It has 4 colors

[grand tusk]

oh no not the eyelashes

[odd garnet]

All in it's body

[short dirge]

Don’t tell WARDLE

[wind matrix]

lol

[odd garnet]

Bruxish contest? Despite not being in the game?

[grand tusk]

ok so we'll assume bruxish is in the calculator for this since its a hypothetical, now you still gotta choose the other option

[short dirge]

We can get it added into the game with a contest

Have 600 submissions

[odd garnet]

OH They found out how to add more memory in the game?

[short dirge]

I mean I dunno what the memory deal is but if they can still add custom sprites for every existing fusion it must be alright

[grand tusk]

the sprites just replace the old sprites

its the data for each fusion that hurts the most

[odd garnet]

There's a pokemon I'm kinda disappointed with

I wanna make a Masquerade themed team since I like the Masquerading pokemon a lot
But there's one Masquerade pokemon that's just... Why?

We could have had a Cool Plague doctor bird like pokemon

But instead we got...

[short dirge]

Masquerain you mean?

[grand tusk]

Meowscarada

[short dirge]

I like aromatisse

[grand tusk]

Xeno never finished the answer so i'll assume now its bruxish/aromatisse

[short dirge]

which one is the simp

[odd garnet]

For Ugly right?

[short dirge]

of those two

[grand tusk]

one of those 2 is the simp Xeno, its your pick

[odd garnet]

Can I change it to Roserade? LOL
Since people already call it a "Waifu" mon
Safe pick
Safe pick xD

[grand tusk]

"Your honor, my client picked Roserade as the simp mon as its a safe pick, it's only a coincidence they also made 5 times the amount of entries as required for the contest"

[odd garnet]

THAT'S CAUSE ROSERADE'S MY FAVORITE MON AND I'M ON THE ROAD TO BEING A ROSERADE COMPLETIONIST

[grand tusk]

Alright alright, I won't pry

[short dirge]

all the good completionist roles are taken

smh

[grand tusk]

Riviera its your turn

p i c k

[short dirge]

pick what, my most favourite and least favourite designs?

[odd garnet]

Pfp's a Kangaroo
So I'm gonna guess Khangaskhan

[short dirge]

Why does everyone think it’s a kangaroo

[grand tusk]

no your choice of a ugly and simp fusion if there was a "beauty and the beast" theme contest

[wind matrix]

it's clearly a squirl

[odd garnet]

Greedent?

Oh wait Pachirisu

[short dirge]

I’m too dumb to understand

[odd garnet]

Og Squirrel

[wind matrix]

lol

[short dirge]

Also no it’s a deer plushie

[odd garnet]

Dragon Slayer Pachirisu

[urban knot]

Riviera#0906

Server Avatar

[short dirge]

with eyelashes

[grand tusk]

oh no, dont let WARDLE see

[wind matrix]

🤔

[odd garnet]

Neckless

[wind matrix]

it's very chunky

[short dirge]

yes

[odd garnet]

OH DANG It's floofy

[short dirge]

deer orb

[wind matrix]

lol

[grand tusk]

fat

[wind matrix]

it's a deer/spheal

[odd garnet]

Deerling/Spheal

Ok question
Why did this game prioritize adding Gen 1 and 2 pokemon?

[short dirge]

Because they were first

Before the developer realized “oh shit this is taking up too much memory”

[grand tusk]

I still need your answer Riviera pick your two mons

[wind matrix]

because the game is literally in kanto and joto

[short dirge]

I don’t understand what I’m choosing

If not the design I like most and design I like least

[grand tusk]

your choice of an ugly pokemon and a pokemon to simp for that you would make a fusion for in a hypothetical "beauty and the beast" themed contest

like Thorns choosing slaking as ugly and milotic because they would the fish I suppose

[odd garnet]

And how did they decide the mons from other gens?
Which would make the most interesting fusions?

[wind matrix]

I don't simp fish

[grand tusk]

I ASKED YOU, and I made it clear when I said "simp mon" and you chose it!

[short dirge]

suicune and something probably

[wind matrix]

some were chosen by winners of contests. others wer prolly chosen by popularity and stuff

[grand tusk]

Suicune huh 😳

[odd garnet]

Well in that case

THANK YOU WHOEVER CHOSE ROSERADE!

[wind matrix]

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BEAUTY AND THE BEAST AND I GOT MIXED UP

[grand tusk]

mmhmm, whatever you say

[wind matrix]

😭

Blue is bullying me

[grand tusk]

so if its beauty/beast... slaking???

I guess thats better then a fish...

[odd garnet]

Has there been a custom trainer battle added in the game via contest?
Like the best trainer sprite gets added as an optional fight?

[short dirge]

Suicune and nidoking? There’s so many kinda ugly beast-ish contenders

[wind matrix]

nope

[wind matrix]

NIDOKING IS HOT!

SHUSH BLUE

[odd garnet]

But it's not a Fire type

[grand tusk]

OK Thorns pick Nidoking and slaking then

[short dirge]

Well I was trying to think of a design that fulfilled the criteria but wasn’t absolutely awfully ugly

[wind matrix]

fine lol

[grand tusk]

you've made it clear this time

[wind matrix]

🤣

[short dirge]

Like I hate electivire I hate bastiodon

[grand tusk]

why wouldn't you pick something awfully ugly?

[short dirge]

But they are like, so ugly they wouldn’t even work

[wind matrix]

lol

too ugly for the ugly contest

[grand tusk]

do you make the ugly mon beautiful or the beautiful mon ugly

[odd garnet]

Monstrous Pokemon = Ugly?

[short dirge]

Yeah like the beast ain’t as ugly as probopass for instance 💀

[grand tusk]

its a choice

probopass is a great choice though

[short dirge]

probopass is irredeemable

No fusion could make it beautiful

[grand tusk]

you're too tapped into the actual look of the disney beast to get the idea of the theme

[odd garnet]

Probopass just needs a trim
Imagine a Handlebar moustache on Probopass

[short dirge]

I mean you’re using the Disney theme to summon the question

tbf

We should get WARDLE to design a female probopass

[grand tusk]

I didn't expect you to be so pedantic about it and completely miss the obvious themes and point of the movie

[short dirge]

Ok ok ok fine

[grand tusk]

I said ugly and simp mon like 300 times

[short dirge]

But no one here picked the most blatant ugly ones

[grand tusk]

Slaking is absolutely ugly

and bruxish

[short dirge]

Bruxish isn’t that bad

[grand tusk]

ok you do you lmao

[short dirge]

Sure

[grand tusk]

its opinionated anyway

[odd garnet]

Contest idea
Make a Fusion to replace Dudunsparce as Dunsparce's evolution Lol
I still like Dudunsparce though. Funny snake

[grand tusk]

we started this by saying how jynx could be either way for people

[short dirge]

Bastiodon has a wall for a face