and had Overgrowth as its ability
#other-pokemon-games
cinder sparrow
anyway
been playing Pokemon XG
Manectric and Grovyle has been carrying me
discharge spam go brrrr
jovial cosmos
You can make it so they learn more moves from their type, that normally works well enough for me. 😄
onyx vortex
it was... just the program that comes with the randomizer, as far as I remember
ye, overgrow and blaze are somehow the abilities I always get as randomized ones
fighting psychic pinsir with double special attack over attack? overgrow
tacit cairn
what are some good pokemon fangames
floral thunder
first one is a buggy mess the second one is alright but didn't age well
if you want "trendy" stuff the go to is rewjuvenation
fusion dimensions is nice
dull crow
is that done?
floral thunder
is that done?
dunno about rewjuv, I dislike it personally so I don't follow the progress
fusion dimensions is playable but far from complete, final version will have a new regional and all
dull crow
whats empyrean about
floral thunder
a very good story
loads of mechanics to made it a more unique experience, which you can ignore if you like the more vanilla play style
2 new regions
a good modding scene
dull crow
whats the theme?
floral thunder
instead of the cookie cutter mafia you instead have a world ending villain/galactic enemy
||you can hop between present to future as well||
dull crow
they made a type with 10 immunities?
floral thunder
ah yes the data type
people overhype the shit out of it
when it's weak to the most common types in Pokemon
it's "op" in theory and mediocre in practice
dull crow
it also has auto special itneractions with some types like electric and ice?
is that on use or on hit?
cold sorrel
in order
y you do this to yourself
cinder sparrow
Shadow Pidgeot in XG is semi useful
only problem is Shadow Storm is its only damage move
which was changed in XG from Surf to Hurricane with 10 less power
dull crow
how is pixelmon?
spice warren
good
dull crow
how is difficulty vs official games?
floral thunder
is there any objective in single player pixelmon
jovial cosmos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C-UmXxVB5c&ab_channel=PointCrow
That was really gun to watch! 🙂
dull crow
kyruem is clearly meant to represent cold fusion 😛
spice warren
is there any objective in single player pixelmon
idk, same as usual kinda?
get al the mons, get all the held items, do whatever makes you happy
servers have pseudo-goals sometimes
either way the ideas just to play
dull crow
are there npc trainers? gyms? e4?
royal tree
Trainers and gyms yes
No e4 that I know of
The music in PCs is such a nice update though, been loving it
shy monolith
glass goblet
What game is this?
finite prism
pokemon electrum
cunning parrot
It says it in the top left
finite prism
XG lmao
dense juniper
Xg lets go
shy monolith
What game is this?
the name on the white bar
i swear ppl dont know how to read these days
glass goblet
Yes. I saw later
shy monolith
there a second game of the 1 im playing
shy monolith
so how this move set??
dull crow
ya'll think we get ox/bull/cow serpent sheep/ram/goat or horse fire starter next
or they break the pattern
think they centaur minotaur satyr etc route or actually have a quadrupedal final fire starter?
floral thunder
i think they will create yet another busted starter trio, but 1 of the starter trio will have Inteleon syndrome
dull crow
that wasnt the question
shy monolith
i suprize hyper beam not a digital move
cunning parrot
Makes sense to me that it’s not
spice warren
its just a beam of energy?
cinder sparrow
yeah its just a beam of energy
and if it was Snorlax, it would come from the eyes
dull crow
hyper beam is used by a lotta stuff yeah
jovial cosmos
i swear ppl dont know how to read these days
No need to be like this. 😅
shy monolith
lol want know y hyper beam not digital type cuz digital type moves hits every thing nutral damage
there no type that resist or weak aginst it yet i need test it on a fairy type after this game
dull crow
hyper beam has always been meant to be normal, never been anything digital about it, and dont think it's meant to be offensively unresisted
shy monolith
how u like my team??
dull crow
you hvae two Lunas
shy monolith
this the champ battle
floral thunder
mediocre shiny legend, which is prob fixed to be shiny :sip:
floral thunder
h i g h q u a l i t y i c o n s
shy monolith
lol
im miss the last doggo
this post game
but celebi well tp u back in time the day before the 3 dogs got revive by ho-oh
cinder sparrow
wasnt Electrum a one person thing?
grand tiger
Has anyone played pokemon Aurelion? Is it any good?
teal briar
the reason i want regice in IF: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/559838548904116254/902183902523842600/20210707_203901.jpg
shrewd furnace
onyx vortex
eyo, he managed to use all of the fire types in sinnoh, how did he do it!?
shrewd furnace
Yeah, was a tough choice between Rapidash and Rapidash, but Rapidash was more important to cover the starter's weaknesses.
onyx vortex
speaking of rapidash, my emerald randomizer one got eruption as a random move
kinda pog
dull crow
does the randomizer affect stats
onyx vortex
I set mine to only affect moves and abilities (and the mons ofc)
thankfully in gen 3 fire is always physical
wait
ye, it's always special
nvm
I read it wrong
oh well
floral thunder
ye, it's always special
more reasons to say flareon is garbage
onyx vortex
yeah...
floral thunder
does the randomizer affect stats
if you choose the option, yes
dull crow
meant their randomizer obv some do
cinder sparrow
Flareon is still kinda ass anyway
since it dont got much to work with
Flare Blitz existing hurts it
onyx vortex
meant their randomizer obv some do
it had the option to, but I decided not to for the sake of my sanity, just as I had it be all the same typing as the og games
dull crow
understandable
if everythins different, then it doesn't really mean anything to end up with a given mon
onyx vortex
last time I tried a fully random one and uh... having a specially defensive slow bulky pinsir with basically no damage and only high power moves was something
dull crow
wonky phys special split has been a barrier for me on wanting to replay gen 3 stuff
onyx vortex
it is pretty hard to remember
such as dragon being always special, despite 85% of its moves being physical looking
dull crow
basically just remember eeveelution types+dragon are special
onyx vortex
apparently most of the special stuff is inherently 'magical' and everything else is more... normal. Except for ghost
which is just the outlier
dull crow
yeah coulda seen ghost and dark swap but w/e
onyx vortex
that split also made gyarados... kind of just unable to use anything water type
which is kinda just sad, really
onyx vortex
too bad its only flying type move is... bounce?
dull crow
its also prob why the starters were so split betwee using dif style moves
and in their stats
floral thunder
too bad its only flying type move is... bounce?
physical flying yes, still super funny
btw gyarados can run a decent rain moveset, hydro pump+hurricane+thunder 
onyx vortex
true
dull crow
eg blaziken is associated with overheat and blaze kick and sky uppercut, seecptiles evo got linke the tial missle to justify special focus despite leaf blade swampters move was muddy water but it is a phys boi
onyx vortex
but it's still funny that in gen 3 the only way to make gyarados learn a flying type move is teaching it bounce through a tm while it's a magikarp
wait, nvm
bounce was a gen 4 move
so it didn't even have that
wait, can magikarp really only learn bounce by tm on gen 8?
dull crow
yes
onyx vortex
ah, ok it had a tutor for the move from gen 4 onwards, ok, that's less aggravating
still, tho dem
dull crow
bounce was at first known only to spoink and for some reason rapidash lines
floral thunder
ironic that the most cheesy pokemon for single player only has bounce as physical flying stab
onyx vortex
yep
in gen 2 by special means it could learn modafukin zap cannon
but not wing attack
onyx vortex
still think gen 4 starters shouldve gotten signature
I think all starters should have a move that's their own special little thing
onyx vortex
it has no wings eddie
its mega fins kinda look like wings
dull crow
most do even if not fully exclusive
onyx vortex
i'll take it
dull crow
gen 4 didnt
floral thunder
still think gen 4 starters shouldve gotten signature
signature moves 🤮
dull crow
its mega fins kinda look like wings
move cant only make sense in mega form
floral thunder
still think sigs are dumb
dull crow
good for you, anyways
floral thunder
you cant tell me legit every physical fire type wouldnt like pyro ball
dull crow
pyro ball shouldnt be what the default fire move is physically
aesthetically
in any case issue was mmore general favoritism with cinderace
floral thunder
a physical fire blast is better than flare blitz
dull crow
I didnt mean statwie man
onyx vortex
I think signatures would be fine if they had like a weak base power but some kind of special effect. A physical fire blast is more or less just... physical fire blast
kinda like... nuzzle?
idk if anyone agrees
dull crow
super unwasted stats, two sig moves including a swap hazards ove and it got protean without inherent weak offense of greninja
to balance it
floral thunder
so aesthetically wise? techno blast pory-z would fit
onyx vortex
so aesthetically wise? techno blast pory-z would fit
that's a fair point
dull crow
but yeah sig moves shouldn't for starters ust be super high power options
more better tradeoff mid range sstuff
like blaze kick
or in gen 5
they weren tfully exclusive but we saw stuff like heat crash and razor shel
gen 6s were kinda eh though
onyx vortex
I'd enjoy pyro ball a lot more if it had flamethrower base power but also made it a once per move usage like... idk, is there a move that makes it so hazards can't be placed?
floral thunder
taunt i guess?
onyx vortex
cuz then it'd be much less oppressive but also a good option to make sure no rocks hit the field that turn
dull crow
could be an offensive move that sends over 1 set of hazards at random
that are already out
prob woudlnt see use I guess
floral thunder
thats dumdum op considering hazards are one of the most broken and unbalanced features of singles 🔫
onyx vortex
whatever the case just don't make it a defog that deals damage
dull crow
thats dumdum op considering hazards are one of the most broken and unbalanced fe...
I mean cagain look at court change
in any case
compare gen 8 starters stat distributiion to earlier gens
it's absurd
ya also see it with the elgendaries
onyx vortex
I think making it impossible to set hazards for a turn would be a good tradeoff for the lack of damage they'd need to apply tbh
onyx vortex
compare gen 8 starters stat distributiion to earlier gens
but yeah, powercreep is really something
onyx vortex
whats that got to do with kicking a ball
you kick a fire ball, it explodeas and created a wall of flame that burns the hazards to a crisp
floral thunder
ya also see it with the elgendaries
it just became a normal thing to see mons in route 1 being stronger than supposedly super strong pokemon 🤷♂️ fire greninja and better skarmory are route 1 yet better than idk duraludon, which is super strong lore wise hell i would say they are better than crowned zama
dull crow
you can see they really were trying to force cinderace as the next lucario blaziken etc super popular thing
onyx vortex
or something, idk, haven't figured that one out quite yet
onyx vortex
you can see they really were trying to force cinderace as the next lucario blazi...
he just has one of the best abilities and moves
totally not biased
floral thunder
cant wait for greninja but grass for gen9-
dull crow
styled it to be slim fire fightingy without being so gave it to protag
onyx vortex
well, since we already have pokemon with 2 abilities, I can't wait for the time where a mon can have both protean AND adaptability
it's gonna happen eventually
floral thunder
well, since we already have pokemon with 2 abilities, I can't wait for the time ...
dont we have a pokemon with 4 different abilties
the water spider thing
onyx vortex
ah, more or less
gives it 1.5x water damage, which is water adaptability and makes it take less fire damage, I think?
lemme double check
onyx vortex
ye
dull crow
guys still not good tbf, it has lackluster stats as trade off
onyx vortex
at the very least its limited to an otherwise meh pokemon
dull crow
42 speed, 70 attack
onyx vortex
so at this point it's more or less a gimmicky sweeper OR something you use to skill swap the ability to something like... azumarill?
floral thunder
and all of this makes sense with damp, why did they have to scam my mudkip boi so hard with his hidden
dull crow
whats sceptiles again
onyx vortex
at the very least we don't have to deal with better moody
imagine if they decided to smoke something real strong and forget why moody has the downside?
floral thunder
moody but only ups evasion and lowers the opponent stats instead
dull crow
halfs opponets hp but if their hp is odd it faints golden castle of straumburg style (or however you spell it)
onyx vortex
that's why we always run faint attack aerial ace shock wave swift on a very specific mon that somehow carries technician
floral thunder
lel
onyx vortex
halfs opponets hp but if their hp is odd it faints golden castle of straumburg s...
man... I remember when that was an anime exclusive card cuz it was just so OP
onyx vortex
how the turn tables
floral thunder
(also while at it buff all 90acc moves to 100acc, if they arent stuff like HJK/rollout)
onyx vortex
I kinda understood evasion back when it was like... all evasion boosts boosted it by a single stage, but now every ability with that boosts 2
I don't appreciate that
oh damn, I almost forgot
they let a mon have focus band on an ability
dull crow
?
onyx vortex
galarian darm
floral thunder
oh yea choice band the ability
dull crow
theats choice band
floral thunder
sweet old g.tacts
dull crow
not the same thing
onyx vortex
onyx vortex
ah
dull crow
variant focus sash
dull crow
10% but reusable and neednt be full hp
onyx vortex
focus band is just gambling
gacha rates bless this man who uses focus band on all 6 mons
dull crow
floral thunder
wonder when we will get choice scarf/specs as ability
onyx vortex
honestly they should give the specs ability to a low special attack mon and the scarf one to a slow af pokemon, make people think about how to transfer that to mons that could use them
dull crow
I kinda dislike solely doubles focused abiltiies
onyx vortex
but eh, that might be too much to the same gamefreak that erased like 75% of the fun gimmick moves from gen 7 going to gen 8
onyx vortex
I kinda dislike solely doubles focused abiltiies
it can be used in singles, just needs a team to be built around that trade
floral thunder
pursuit/hidden power being gone is still very funny to me
onyx vortex
~~pursuit/hidden power being gone is still very funny to me~~
return being gone is also quite a kick in the dick
floral thunder
even when they were one of the most used moves
oh yea double edge is the only thing normal physical attackers/-ate users have now
onyx vortex
eg?
skill swap into eject button, trade into a mon with mean look, lock them in battle, manage a safe swap around the mon that desires the swap and then hope for a sweep
or use galarian cofag with his mummy ability to swap it more easily
dull crow
what if they swap turn after you skill swap before you mean look
onyx vortex
mean look the mon they swap in and start the process again
usually works best with volt turn
just cuz they're broken
onyx vortex
oh yea double edge is the only thing normal physical attackers/-ate users have n...
or giga impact if you're a chad
dull crow
but you used up yo eject button
onyx vortex
but you used up yo eject button
then you have to rely on manual swaps
dull crow
does mean look last after your swap out?
onyx vortex
does mean look last after your swap out?
fairly sure it does, ye
ah, nvm
hm... what to do
dull crow
it also doesnt work on ghost types
onyx vortex
you can also lock that mon into assist, invest all into special attack and speed and hope they pick a strong special mo-
oh wait
they also removed assist
gamefreak why
floral thunder
hello there 👁🗨
onyx vortex
general cannoli
cunning parrot
general cannoli
Kenobi
cinder sparrow
~~because you want to drink detergent~~
no
although i havent played Insurgence or Detergent in a while
grand tiger
I'm looking for new fan games to play im currently still doing a nuzlocke randomizer playthrough of insurgence, then I'm going to Empire, then Zeta. But always want more for when I get bored (edited)
pine ingot
Try out pokemon Wack
grand tiger
whats pokemon wack?
floral thunder
wack
a crap load of "fakemons"
which are all made in paint
trow in beta mons and some other weird stuff and you can get a good chuck out of its massive pokedex
floral thunder
zinnia is nice
i like her
my planned regirust pfp doesnt look good while compressed
floral thunder
GF should have given the first AG mon after beating zinnia but i digress
dull crow
shouldnt of given you mega lati that early either
onyx vortex
shouldn't have made most flying types look hella boring either
dull crow
blame sky battles
onyx vortex
nah, i blame gf just reusing the same animations 3 gens in a row since sky battles were a gen 6 exclusive
thankfully
dull crow
thats just it
they made the aniamtions liek tehyat for sky battles and lieke verything that seemed like a this is for now we'll fix it later in x and y, grwoing pans yknow they've been cutting corners and left it in since
anwyways
look back at x and ys reveal trailers and see how misleaing the stuff they sow was about the general 3dness of the game
they show 1 of few times the camera turns, the 1 gym with spiderwebs, the steam plant area where you see a wide open space y adont go to
grand tiger
my pokemon insurgence team for my nuzlocke randomizer
floral thunder
oh yeah randomizer
the only way to actually get deltas in insurgence
grand tiger
lol its hard but fun
grand tiger
my poor houndoom served me well
heavy agate
fierce breach
forgot that game existed
cunning parrot
The sleepy psychic girl became a witch
rustic wolf
yooooo that outfit looks greaaat
cunning parrot
Caitlin vs Lusamine : battle of the massive hair
rustic wolf
oh shiiiiiiiiiz
dull crow
gigantmax grimmsnarl vs gigantamax hatterne
battle of trully massive hair
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen6randombattle-1444278607 short cause they forfeited
drifting thunder
anyone know any good fangames/romhacks with a lot of customization/variety and randomization? (like comparable to IF, even if not quite on the same level?)
pine ingot
is there a pokemon game where its filled with regis
cunning parrot
No
west needle
FINALLY>!!!
nice congrats man!
finite prism
Shiny pear 
strange grove
FINALLY>!!!
inland lake
second shiny 😛
zenith hare
second shiny 😛
Oh nice! Gg 
carmine aurora
zenith hare
Oh wow, nice 
oblique rain
Does anybody wish to trade zamzenta? I am two away from completing the pokedex.
shrewd furnace
Well, I own both RPG maker and pokessentials now.
Any advice?
west needle
Start small.
umbral egret
do the region town by town and route by route
that way you don't pull your hair out
umbral egret
i mean, you still have the air in your nose, and on your body
dull crow
air? >.>
umbral egret
hair
shrewd furnace
Thanks guys.
I have actually laid out a map concept to go off from.
verbal charm
So I started a Pokémon FireRed Artlocke Challenge (a nuzlocke where you have to draw your pokémon, the evolutions when they evolve and their death moments)
I chose Bulbasaur (female) and named her Flora
Then, in Route 1, my first encounter after getting Pokéballs was a level 3 Rattata (coincidentally, another female) and I named her Anne as a reference to the SS Anne ship in Vermilion
solemn nimbus
Nice
worldly flower
I just started a Red 721 Nuzlocke and my first encounter downed me with Dragon Rage
narrow blade
lol
verbal charm
Dragon rage in early game is op
verbal charm
I caught a Mankey in Route 22 and named it Wukong
cunning parrot
Too bad it wasn’t a Chimchar
crimson cargo
Aipom is the better monke
verbal charm
is this team ready for Brock?
west needle
hell yea
knotty turret
probably. wasnt brock nerfed to not have a geogey anymore?
geogey wouldve been the only problematic poke brock had
knotty turret
geodude/pidgey
knotty turret
then youre good to go
verbal charm
probably. wasnt brock nerfed to not have a geogey anymore?
but, speaking about IF, what's his team now?
analog timber
I hate the new Pokémon icons in BDSP
like they couldn't keep the nice SwSh ones for a whole generation...
floral thunder
just mod in swsh ones
knotty turret
its kinda wild that theres probably going to be bdsp romhacks before its even released
royal tree
Bdsp revamp mods before they can even release a polish update
floral thunder
bdsp pc port before its officially released
knotty turret
Bdsp revamp mods before they can even release a polish update
the game doesnt automatically come with polish translation? 
tawny iron
they never do 
drifting thunder
recently found out about Crystal Clear, which is basically a romhack that turns Gen 2 open world, where you can do things in any order, and it seems cool. About to try it.
drifting thunder
debating which town to start in. any recs? it can be anywhere in kanto or johto
burnt saffron
mahogany town could be interesting with the ice cave right there, don’t usually get early game ice types!
drifting thunder
that could work. I was thinking Cianwood city, cause starting on a small island away from the rest of the world seems neat
floral thunder
debating which town to start in. any recs? it can be anywhere in kanto or joht...
victory road
drifting thunder
that would be Viridian City, which is practically just R/B
burnt saffron
fuschia city could also be interesting since the safari zone is there and gives a nice variety of pokemon!
drifting thunder
I was thinking that too, although it's got a high difficulty supposedly, so that scared me off a bit
well, 4 stars out of 5
Cianwood and Mohagany are 3
I think I'll go with Cianwood
going to try Ditto as my starter
royal tree
Best starter ever
drifting thunder
these were terrible decisions
ditto is so bad, pretty much only killing things with struggle, and cianwood has no pokemart, so if I want to beat the gym before leaving, I need to grind seafoam islands like crazy. At least I got a shuckle for starting there though
whirl islands, I mean. And everything is super high level in there, and if you go too far in, the lights go out and you can't turn them back on except by dying. So I just deposited all my money in the bank and now I'm just doing a loop of repeatedly dying while grinding
oh, nevermind, I just realized I started with 5 Pokeballs. That's a gamechanger.
drifting thunder
The new pokedex is the best feature though. It does what I've always wished the Pokedex did, which is show all the relevant stats and information on a pokemon, as well as how/when they evolve, without spoiling what the evolution is if you haven't seen it yet
torpid dirge
to be honest, knowing how things evolve is pretty useful, especially when you have unnecessarily complicated stuff like Galarian Yamask
drifting thunder
my team going into the first gym. Zubat doesnt know any flying moves, so I'm probably doomed, but we'll see
oh it was actually easy, everything was like lv7 and under. I was too paranoid
west needle
F for Zubat
drifting thunder
This hack has a feature called Battle Tutor, which costs nothing and lets you teach certain moves to pokemon that normally dont learn them, and its really powerful, almost to the point of being broken. My Ditto now knows Sludge, Absorb, Metronome, and Transform so its a lot better now
burnt saffron
wow yeah that’s a nice upgrade for ditto! i know transform is its gimmick but i don’t see why it can’t have at least another move or two. same with unown bc theyre super neat in concept
burnt tide
i am playing pokemon red rescue on gba i took squirtle out of the party in the open world how i i put him back on the team
burnt saffron
go to his friend area and talk to him
real agate
Crystal Clear is hands down my favorite romhack, especially considering that despite all the upgrades and additions it still maintains its goal of compatibility with regular gen 2 games + Stadium
It makes me wish all the features it has were in official games though, especially the pokedex and battle tutor stuff
drifting thunder
the biggest thing it's missing imo is a randomizer
drifting thunder
oh god, nevermind, the worst thing about is that they haven't fixed this. I forgot all about this from gen 1/2
cunning parrot
You had a bag item limit in gen 3 too
drifting thunder
they added voltorb flip, though, which is awesome. And they improved it by letting you mark tiles in multiple ways
real agate
Inventory space is due to the compatibility
Adding more would break stadium compat apparently (shock gets asked about that like at least once a month p sure lmao)
drifting thunder
It would be nice if getting more caused them to be teleported to the PC or something though
idk how feasible that is
dull crow
ik unbound makes a big deal about cubes being what allows unlimited item space
teal briar
i dont know what rom to play
jovial cosmos
Adding more would break stadium compat apparently (shock gets asked about that l...
Stadium as in Pokémon Stadium? 😮
real agate
Stadium as in Pokémon Stadium? 😮
Yea! It's compatible with stadium if you put it on a cart that's compatible :3 dunno if any of the n64 emulators are compatible but if they are / have a way to read it the saves would be that way too I'd think 🤔
real agate
It changes what movesets some mons have, but it doesn't change the moves themselves. Stadium however doesn't care if you have an illegal moveset - it just colors them different in a menu iirc?
It doesn't add any new moves etc
(Sorry didn't see you'd responded immediately, had a game date with friends 🤣 )
heavy agate
vapid minnow
fierce breach
omg it’s shiny drednaw
jovial cosmos
It changes what movesets some mons have, but it doesn't change the moves themsel...
Oh, so no Gen III+ moves or BP changes? 😢
real agate
Oh, so no Gen III+ moves or BP changes? 😢
Unfortunately no :c Just some moveset adjustments to make things either closer to later gens or make things more useful\fun to play with (like dunsparce actually having usable moves, which I only remember because it was a star player in a nuzlocke I did 😂)
shrewd furnace
I have been doing the first steps for my Pokémon game.
floral thunder
which is?
shrewd furnace
Unreleased, currently working on early mapping.
floral thunder
rom hack or rpg maker
shrewd furnace
RPG Maker.
shrewd furnace
Yeah, simply more flexible.
Also seemed easier to learn.
shrewd furnace
Also, I am looking for a good tileset to use.
shrewd furnace
Hm... anyone know a good Discord server for this stuff?
west needle
for tilesets?
shrewd furnace
For advice on Pokémon Essentials.
umbral egret
pokecastle discord is pretty good for it
shrewd furnace
Currently in the Thundaga Discord.
steady reef
when's blizzaga discord
dense juniper
firaga discord when
shrewd furnace
ZettaFlare Discord.
But yeah I will see if that helps.
heavy agate
west needle
gen 3 remake no. 84 looking fire
dense juniper
wdym, this is clearly gen 1, we dont have enough remakes for gen 1, so gen 1 would make the most sense
royal tree
Gen 8 remake 
floral thunder
nah gen9 remake
mossy token
gen 69 remake
drifting thunder
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/638870344974729226/910362119067799562/unk...
cursed
heavy agate
drifting thunder
am I looking at pokemon clover
heavy agate
crimson cargo
Discord mods be like
shrewd furnace
Gen 8 remake <:9head:760424714387587072>
It needs one.
shrewd furnace
Is a switch actually needed?
I have a feeling the game can check if the player is a girl as is.
heavy agate
yeah theres a script command but its made the same way so
and i had this made already
shrewd furnace
I get that.
shy monolith
anyone here preorder BDSP??
rustic wolf
nope
west needle
anyone here preorder BDSP??
got to Dialga. So far nothing special
rustic wolf
yeah he played a leaked version
shrewd furnace
Hm... update on my project, it seems near impossible to find tiles for big city environments, or even modern streets for that matter.
steady reef
got to Dialga. So far nothing special
I knew that game was gonna be disappointing before it even released
looking forward to legends tho
floral thunder
only thing that makes bdsp anywhere near interesting is unity
west needle
yep
floral thunder
modding galore
cunning parrot
Easy modding too I think
Can’t wait for every Pokémon to be replaced with other ridiculous characters
burnt saffron
that and i imagine people would do some neat quality of life changes too
cunning parrot
Modding in all Pokémon
burnt saffron
modding in expressive animations for the models would be cool, i miss how animated the coliseum/xd/battle revolution pokemon were
crimson cargo
anyone here preorder BDSP??
yes
west needle
modding in expressive animations for the models would be cool, i miss how animat...
FUCK I am SO disappointed with that
Some of the animations are so well done and fitting but then the rest 60% is just...
nothig
dense juniper
gen 6 animations have been used for over a decade 
pine ingot
Hey guys let's just um be positive I agree with modding but think about it we got a new Pokemon game and it's what everyone's been begging for
west needle
ehhhhhh
People have been begging for it but not like this
I could ask in a restaurant for food but I wouldn't be happy if they served me stale, cold leftovers.
floral thunder
Hey guys let's just um be positive I agree with modding but think about it we go...
modding is the only thing that makes this game remotely interesting lol
if it wasn't coded in unity I bet at least 50% of people would just brush it off as the mobile game it is
rustic wolf
Yeah ive currently played for 2 hours up to beating roark. It's nothing to special currently, the graphics are fine in battles i suppose, some shading on the humans look a bit weird and i feel like they are lacking detail, just flat shirts and such, but the overworld, just man if it was at least like let's go than i wouldve been much happier, right now im just kinda like... yeah this is diamond but 3d... not getting really pulled in by it or anything, it kinda reminds me of nexomon with the style right now, chibi, but kinda detailed background, and uh nexomon also was a phone game until their most recent installment, sooooooo not a good sign that pokemon is making me feel like im playing nexomon
tawny iron
I just reached the wind park
so far, the biggest change I've experienced is legit that kricketot doesnt learn bide anymore
aside from that its literally the exact same game
also, first gym was easy even for a solo kricketune at level 14 
pine ingot
I hate when people get mad over a children's game not being good enough
You're an adult it's made for kids of course it's not going to be perfect get over it and stop bitching
floral thunder
of course
because it's a game made for children, it doesn't deserve to be good, kids are dumb! they don't deserve high quality products that can be enjoyed by both adults and kids! half baked games is truly the best option for the most impressionable part of society. let's not forget that bdsp does what renegade platinum did better, and guess what? renegade plat is definitely better. Sure it doesn't have mobile game 3D graphics but it surely has more soul than whatever bdsp attempts to be.
pine ingot
I'm just saying I'm tired of hearing
Oh this is shit because of this
It's shit because of that
Shut the fuck up and be happy Nintendo could just stop making Pokemon all together but they don't be happy we're still getting games
Sword and shield was deemed shit but now that there's another scapegoat it's suddenly an amazing generation
Y'all got pissed when let's go changed too much now it's changed too little you're all picky as fuck and are acting more childish than the ages it's made for
floral thunder
Nintendo will never stop making pokemon games be real with yourself, pokemon is such a money generator they could make a remake of let's go with the only change being that the Eevee is always shiny and people would waste 300 dollars on it
pine ingot
I'm muting this chat untill the next gen gets announced and suddenly bdsp is an amazing remake
You're all more bipolar than my mother
floral thunder
if bdsp becomes an amazing remake, not because of it being programmed in unity, but because it's "good" my Lord I don't even want to think about gen5 remakes
/gen9
umbral egret
i mean, a different company made bdsp
company ILCA made the game while Gamefreak themselves are all in on Arceus
so gamefreak's staff isn't even present in this game
pine ingot
That probably explains why unity was used
umbral egret
still published by the pokemon company, they looked at the game and gaave it the okay
pine ingot
They had to meet the new game each 2 years deadline
They bearly fixed a ton placeholders with a patch that was required
floral thunder
i mean, a different company made bdsp
doesn't really make it better for GF
if bdsp is better than their future games boi this isn't a nice place to go down
pine ingot
People are still going to shit on Legends I'm calling it
floral thunder
jokes on you I'm already shitting on it with the possibility of abilities bring removed
happy for regigigas tho
pine ingot
Although I do hope it becomes a new spin off series
floral thunder
legends diance
pine ingot
Legends Necrozma has you as one of those people from the Wormholes
west needle
aside from that its literally the exact same game
the fire monkey learns power up punch at lv 10
insanely broken
rustic wolf
yeah i found that very weird as well and shinx gets thundershock at level 4, i dunno but i feel like that would take longer as well
rustic wolf
You're all more bipolar than my mother
man, what a mature argument
rustic wolf
I'm just saying I'm tired of hearing
Oh this is shit because of this
It's shit b...
even if nintendo did stop, well there are rom hacks and other monster catching series people could migrate too, pokemon is literally one of if not the main reason for other monster catching games to get really popular since everyone is busy with pokemon, the quickest example i can think of is digimon.
and when did sword and shield get deemed an amazing generation?
burnt saffron
pokemon has a huge fanbase also, so of course there’s gonna be varying opinions. that and opinions tend to change over time
rustic wolf
yeah, but i personally at least didnt hear it becoming more positive in the fanbase, still tought it was seen as meh
burnt saffron
i’ve seen a couple acquaintances get more positive about it but that’s certainly not representative of the entire community
hexed cloud
im still gonna "shit on" legends arceus because the game looks like a PS2 game 
burnt saffron
i’m getting legends unless some seriously disappointing news comes up
hexed cloud
i would rather get BDSP than the legends game
unless it gets to looking better or smth
pine ingot
Well at least yall can play them, im over here on my fifth Ultra Moon run cause i dont got a switch yet 😔
burnt saffron
oof, doing challenge runs i assume? i did a bug monotype in usum and it went pretty well, lots of choices
floral thunder
Well at least yall can play them, im over here on my fifth Ultra Moon run cause ...
Just ahoy, since it's always morally correct when it comes to Nintendo games
floral thunder
yeah the bug that evolves extremely late and is basically just a sightly better galvantula
but slow
hexed cloud
yeah lol
cunning parrot
I'm just saying I'm tired of hearing
Oh this is shit because of this
It's shit b...
I never heard anyone say SwSh is good now, it’s just that the new game is going to have a lot more said about it now compared to the game that’s years old now
dense juniper
swsh lowkey best game in the series yet
pine ingot
swsh lowkey best game in the series yet
i like
sun and moon more
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dense juniper
(jump)
pine ingot
shhhhhhh
rustic wolf
magikarp jump has more charm than bdsp
hexed cloud
than swsh
finite prism
Mars still looks like a condom which is nice
rustic wolf
also yeah
i dont like how when they zoom in when they talk in the battle, their eyes just dont move, its just their mouths moving. so they say like ''oh no im being beaten??!!'' and they just got this blank stare whilst their mouth flaps, like they gave some more expression to the overworld chibis in some cutscenes which is nice, so why not also have that in those mid battle things, like, is it that hard to animate eyes?
umbral egret
did a water mono in USUM, Almomola having mirror coat saved me in the early game for two trials
her and Pyukumuku were my MVPs
floral thunder
wait you can get fuckin alomomola early game?
umbral egret
ah, my brother and I agreed to do a monotype run of USUM
we each bred pokemon and then traded
hatching it outside our house and then going on our journey
burnt saffron
i did a water type run once too! mainly as an excuse to keep popplio lol
finite prism
Lmao i found a wild onix with dragon breath
jovial cosmos
yeah i found that very weird as well and shinx gets thundershock at level 4, i d...
This was absolutely crazy, I sent in a Starly because I was like "Shinx doesn't get an Electric-type move until it evolves, basically". How wrong I was. 😢
And the weird part is it gets Thunder Shock before Starly gets a Flying-type attack. 😦
rustic wolf
yeah exactly
jovial cosmos
In my playthrough news, I immediately searched the Underground for a Togepi and managed to get one with Serene Grace too! 😄
And now I've beaten Gardenia. My flatmate had a team that was very weak to Poison, so although he steamrolled Gardenia, Jupiter's Skuntank annihilated him. 😂
rustic wolf
In my playthrough news, I immediately searched the Underground for a Togepi and ...
so thats why cynthia didnt give me the egg like the old ones, i had a little search for gligar in the undergrounds, did get him
jovial cosmos
so thats why cynthia didnt give me the egg like the old ones, i had a little sea...
Cynthia didn't give you the egg because the Hiker gives you a Happiny egg in DP, the Togepi egg's only in Platinum. 😛
rustic wolf
maaaaaan why did they have to base the remakes on the actual ones rather than the updated platinum xs at least they did the platnium dex, buuuuut maaaaan this is gonna confuse my ass, cuz ive only ever played platinum, cuz when i tried diamond orignially, it crasheeeed
jovial cosmos
I played Pearl originally but prefer Platinum to DP. BDSP's been fun so far though. 🙂
rustic wolf
the overworld is fine i guess, just really would have loved to see an older region like sinnoh in like a gen 8 style, all nice and updated, the backgrounds in battle, i really like, the ball stickers, nice like the old games, the underground, nice but kinda overleveled pokemon in there, and npc's, they look so plain, i really feel like they are missing some shading or textures, it looks so flat, and the forced exp share just makes me feel like i should avoid trainer so they actually feel like challenges and just like a cruise, thats my opinion for now
jovial cosmos
Honestly, Let's Go graphics would have been the perfect compromise between 'faithfulness' and nice visuals. 🙂
rustic wolf
Yeeeeeeeees! a thousand procent agreed
its detailed enough like the newer stuff but still stylized as chibi as the older stuff
jovial cosmos
I'd argue that Let's Go is the best-looking Pokémon game by quite a margin, though BDSP's battles are the best battles. 😄
Although Battle Revolution's dynamic animations really do make it a contender.
heavy agate
tawny iron
The cherry mon from the 2nd gym leader has dazling gleam
kinda pog
it wrecked my meditite
but hoothoot was able to sweep the rest of the gym
also the new underground is fun
but the bases arr trash
I miss how you could actually make rooms and puzzles and stuff
finite prism
Now it's just statues 
rustic wolf
yeah really sad
rustic wolf
I'd argue that Let's Go is the best-looking Pokémon game by quite a margin, thou...
yeah the backdrops in bdsp are probs the best, i do find some bits a bit blurry sometimes, like i think i could see the pixels on some rocks or the moss on the rocks, so maybe they need a little bit more of a clean up, but that could also just be me.
If the trainers in the battles wouldnt have such flat looking outfit textures/shading, and as you mentuioned more dynamic animations, i think it would be perfect
jovial cosmos
I spent around 3 hours last night trying to get a Togepi with Serene Grace in a Great Ball. I have one in a Poké Ball because I used the wrong bloody ball. 😦
west needle
Not a Friend ball? smh
jovial cosmos
As far as I'm aware they're not in BDSP, certainly not before the third badge. 😢
dense juniper
im really debating whether getting BDSP or not
i havent played the OG sinnoh games soo
it could be fun
pine ingot
im really debating whether getting BDSP or not
are you going to buy it or emulate it
dense juniper
buy probably
west needle
im really debating whether getting BDSP or not
Wait for my review
dense juniper
i've never cared about reviews 
pine ingot
buy probably
but
why waste like $40 on a game that's just a 3d chibi version of the original
jovial cosmos
It's a good game, just infuriating in the Underground when you're looking for a rare spawn. 😦
I would know.
dense juniper
but
why waste like $40 on a game that's just a 3d chibi version of the original
im a pokemon fan what do you expect
pine ingot
im a pokemon fan what do you expect
stop being a pokemon fan 🔪
dense juniper
man i love digimon
pine ingot
ayo???
jovial cosmos
ESPECIALLY LEGOMON
ToyAgumon. 
pine ingot
imagine being able to read
rustic wolf
is it that interesting?
dense juniper
i mean, i like shiny hunting and it seems like a fun method lol
pine ingot
i mean, i like shiny hunting and it seems like a fun method lol
if you don't get 16 shinies in the next hour we're breaking up
rustic wolf
i mean, i like shiny hunting and it seems like a fun method lol
no i mean like, is it different from previous games?
dense juniper
better odds, kind of like ORAS but not exactly the same i recon
pine ingot
no i mean like, is it different from previous games?
no she's just a pokemon crackhead
rustic wolf
eh ive shiny hunted too, so i get it, but if its a new way, than its more fun than just randomly running
finite prism
better odds, kind of like ORAS but not exactly the same i recon
Are you talking about the pokeradar?
dense juniper
ye
rustic wolf
oh, yeah i really dont like the radar, way confusing to me
rustic wolf
yeah but it aitn fun to me, just an headache
finite prism
It is a late game item tho
rustic wolf
ah good to know ive got one of those also on my team, but also a luxray so shouldnt be an issue anyways
is the safari zone still a thing? since your in wake town?
rustic wolf
nice
i spend so much time there as a kid, i had like 5 boxes filled with tropius and quagsires from there
finite prism
Fantina's gengar is very scary now that it has dazzling gleam
pine ingot
Fantina's gengar is very scary now that it has dazzling gleam
wait so there are fairy type moves but not fairy type pokemon
finite prism
so no sylveon
I know it's very sad :'(
floral thunder
so no sylveon
very nice
rustic wolf
lol was reading this about the no fairy types, and im at the part where you team with lucas/dawn against the team galactic in veilstone, they send out a clefairy and use disarming voice, just nice timing
rustic wolf
...why... is the razor fang.... only avaibale in the post game....? I- I just wanted a gliscor... thats all... he's one of the main reasons i even got the diamond version... so i could finally use one in a first run.... but no... they just had to use the item list of the game version where its only post game and not on route 214... this game... its testing my patience....
west needle
You can get razor fang before post game
No clue where I got it. But you definitely can
heavy agate
rustic wolf
No clue where I got it. But you definitely can
i really doubt it man, only in platinum was it in more places, ive been reading article after articel, viceo after video but they all point me to the post game battle park
west needle
I 100% have it. I don't know from where. Maybe it was from the underground excavation
But I have it
rustic wolf
well if you end up remebering how you got it, i would love to hear it, cuz right now, its just yet a nother dissapointment this game has given me
rustic wolf
indeed i have, and ive been bored out of my mind, its literally the same game, no new design for the overwodl, or npcs its all the same but rounder, contests are even more boring now, they removed the unown stickers, i hate the exp share stuff making it so trainers have shittier teams, i hate how the clothes are forced sets, like even lets go had more clothing customization and there were no clothing shops there, its so soulless, its just the pixel art game but rounder, ive seen it a thousand times before, the only thing that makes me not toally regret the purchase is the fact they give out mew, jirachi and manaphy, which i bet they did to get people to buy the games so they could get the legit mythicals
torpid dirge
haven't done those yet
i've been taking it slowly and kinda just
catching several of everything for a living dex
rustic wolf
was oras a remake or a remaster?
and yeah contest are more effiedient and interactive now, but man i miss the dressing up, and the pokemon effects are weird, but whatver really since its such a side thing
torpid dirge
ORAS is a remaster, rather than just fixing old things it built onto it in some forms
burnt saffron
i liked the contests in the og, good to hear those are still fun
rustic wolf
alright, google says its more closer to an ''enhanced remake'' rather than a full remaster, but i wont nitpick on that
but the point i do wanna make is, previous remakes did add new stuff or just enchanced it more, ORAS, heartgold, there was done more than just a texture update, and it saddens me that there is just no real new things in this one
burnt saffron
yeah this is really making me appreciate oras in a new way lmao
rustic wolf
i already appreciated it, and now i just appreciate it a thousand times more
they just did the bare bones to make this technically a ''remake''
honestly i would just call it a re-release
burnt saffron
yeah, and a worse looking one to boot. at least in my opinion, the vibrant pixel art is a lot more charming than 3d
rustic wolf
there is just no detail, it looks so flat to me, especially the npc's their clothes, it looks like its just bucket tool filled and with the lowest amount of shading added
i really dont think i will finish it, ive beaten the third gym and im just so numb and have been through the 10 hours ive played, just no sense of real new interesting stuff, maybe the undergrounds, but they made those pokemon way too overleveled
burnt saffron
yeah i can’t blame you, if i ever play it it’s gonna be a pirated version with mods once the community gets that all figured out. the new underground and contests are tempting but not enough to shell out $60 for a shoddy remake
rustic wolf
yeah dont, if you got the originals, then you have the remakes already
burnt saffron
at least it gives me the excuse to finally play renegade platinum, i’ve heard good things about it!
floral thunder
its goodish
rustic wolf
havent played, but also heard good
floral thunder
the versions that "buff" pokemon is kinda eh tho
banette only buff being +10 atk is so insulting
burnt saffron
pokemon changes can be confusing to me for sure but i like that underappreciated/unviable pokemon are made more useful
floral thunder
it was an attempt at making bad pokemon better
but still what originally was good is still good and what was originally bad is still bad 🤷
burnt saffron
aw that’s a shame, it would be fun to have a ledian or somethin in a final team
torpid dirge
i've been having a lot of fun, using machop in BDSP, I just wish I had a way to evolve it to machamp when it becomes a machoke
rustic wolf
i can trade you and then trade it back if you want
torpid dirge
if you don't mind, then sure!
rustic wolf
i think we would just need put on a room code
rustic wolf
sure, just dm me when its that far and then we can figure out a time and such
torpid dirge
okay
random minnow
shrewd furnace
Ditch the starter lol
torpid dirge
anyone know if I can just, ditch Mira in BDSP by using an escape rope?
not that I would, I just thought it would be funny
shrewd furnace
Can't you just leave the area?
hot herald
do y’all know any pokémon fan games that have like new types in them
(you can @ me if you do cause i’ve been lookin$
shrewd furnace
@hot herald Pokémon Xenoverse, Sound-type.
floral thunder
@hot herald Pokemon Empyrean with Data-type, Gold-type and Light-type
torpid dirge
caught myself an absol just now in Brilliant Diamond, that'll be a fun pokemon to use
shrewd furnace
Hm... never heard of Empyrean. I like all the effort put into it, but some gameplay stuff just seems... kinda edgy.
torpid dirge
it's got superluck so gonna stack high crit moves on it
floral thunder
Hm... never heard of Empyrean. I like all the effort put into it, but some gamep...
wouldnt call edgy
rewborn is edgy
i would call it grindy if you want to abuse all features
spice warren
yeah empyreans way more grindy than edgy
shrewd furnace
Quite the opposite, I don+t want to deal with them.-
spice warren
have fun gettin platinum cards and 5 star gp lol
shrewd furnace
Vanilla mode?
floral thunder
yeah, takes out all stat buffs such as gp, plat, cards etc
makes it more similar to a normal pokemon game
shrewd furnace
I see, that's kinda nice.
Also I assume with the Gold-type, getting perfect IV Pokémon is made easier?
floral thunder
IV candy exists yes
you only get to buy them all in a single location lategame-ish, not postgame but ~8º gym badge
shrewd furnace
To be fair, the Gold-typing seems stale as dishwater.
floral thunder
and there is so much happening after gym8 you will be glad it added
shrewd furnace
It may as well just be a bonus instead of being treated so equal.
floral thunder
gold is only really used over in deshret
in omuran, only if you go out of your way to get it
floral thunder
To be fair, the Gold-typing seems stale as dishwater.
hey its a steel type that resists ground
not half bad
shrewd furnace
I mean, I'd love to use innovations, but the game, like way too many, seems to be against it.
It is an unbalanced mess.
I don't want 100 base power supermoves, I just wanna play halfway tactically.
floral thunder
if you think empy has too many things dont play empire lel
shrewd furnace
I do not intend to.
Shame really, new typings, fakemon and regional variants seem like a lot of fun.
But man, this is an infant's idea of how to make a Pokémon game, at least gameplay wise.
floral thunder
only complain i have for empys balance is faegi and dark being so monstrous
other than those, you kinda need to go out of your way to achieve the "brokeness"
shrewd furnace
So enemies are not broken?
floral thunder
bosses are bosses
they are expected to put up a fight 6v1
so those bosses are
omuran postgame is another story
shrewd furnace
I think I'd rather pass, as much a shame as it is.
floral thunder
sad
torpid dirge
God Damnit, I hate malorey
she spams bulk up and I can't do shit against her with my, team on an equal leveling field
I mean maylene
I really need my machoke to evolve somehow
torpid dirge
I love using steroids... I mean X-Items on my pokemon!
pine ingot
imagine if there was a storyline where Red was exposed of using PED (the ev boosting "medicine")
drifting thunder
does the pokemon league have doping tests
rustic wolf
prolly not
torpid dirge
ever since i've gotten Machamp in Brilliant Diamond
using revenge to kill has gotten
so much more satisfying
rustic wolf
nice
crimson cargo
i would also have a machamp, but my friend didn't want to trade his haunter for my machoke to evolve them and then trade back...
also my bro willingly traded his manaphy to his friend for an abra
crimson cargo
abra is better <:huehue:742100381911482479>
nah nah it wasn't even a kadabra he got nothing from that trade he's not even using that abra
crimson cargo
and his friend could just get the egg for free from mystery gift
finite prism
true
crimson cargo
i've not checked yet, but does pokemon home work for bdsp yet?
finite prism
2022
crimson cargo
damn no unlimited manaphy's then
torpid dirge
My machamp both, is extremely lucky, and unlucky
got frozen by ice fang 3 times in a row
and thawed out all three times on the same turn
torpid dirge
I refuse to learn defog to pass through route 210
I got No-Guard Machamp and the power of google to just use a map
cunning parrot
Teach defog to Giratina like the competitive players do
finite prism
Strength is 6th badge i think
shrewd furnace
does the pokemon league have doping tests
To be fair, pretty sure the given supplements would actually be legal for real life sporting eventd.
torpid dirge
to be entirely honest
no, no they wouldn't be
because X-Attack is basically a steroid for enhanced muscle growth, that just works instantly
sure it quickly leaves the body and creates temporary results
but yeah thats basically what it is
when you use an X-item, its a steroid; when you use a move, thats more like training the pokemon to trigger adrenaline or other hormones through specific movements
floral thunder
ew xitems
torpid dirge
I mean if you think about it, swords dance or defense curl is probably the pokemon taking a defensive/offensive stance
or a move like growth is the pokemon forcing horomones into its bloodstream
found an aipom in a honey tree in Brilliant Diamond
pine ingot
i like how you went from talking about pokemon horomones and drugging pokemon to "hey guys found a aipom"
burnt saffron
duality of man
burnt saffron
very true
torpid dirge
though if you wanted to go into the secret darkness of the pokemon world
considering that gymleaders and the elite four are the official pokemon competitive scene, that makes people who selectively breed pokemon for max IV's and EV Train them
the kind of people you'd find at your local gamestore that have a small niche group of a highly competitive thing that should be fun
burnt saffron
competitive is real interesting but not really my scene so i just observe sometimes or play random teams on showdown to kill time
torpid dirge
so whenever you as a trainer decide to enter competitive Pokémon, the rest of the fictional Pokémon society look at you like some social reject!
heavy agate
umbral egret
I refuse to learn defog to pass through route 210
You don't have to learn the moves to use the poketech, literally just click it and a wild pokemon comes to use the move
torpid dirge
You don't have to learn the moves to use the poketech, literally just click it a...
I know, but I refuse to have my poketech, learn defog
not going into that cursed marsh ever
umbral egret
defog is literally the first guy after walking into the great marsh
also, the underground updates to include extra pokemon if you knows defog
the next checkpoint after that would be when you get 7 badges
Literally this guy
torpid dirge
defog is literally the first guy after walking into the great marsh
Did you even read what I said?
I refuse to acknowledge his existence!
flat heath
Does anyone have a drifloon that they can touch trade me
crimson cargo
u dont need to learn defog to use it tho
u just need to have the tm
and it will be usable from ur poketch thing
crimson cargo
I know, but I refuse to have my poketech, learn defog
wait oh you want a challenge
finite prism
I know, but I refuse to have my poketech, learn defog
Same, but it's juts because i forgot where defog is
So yeah
I have all hms except for defog
And going for my 2nd e4 attempt
shrewd furnace
no, no they wouldn't be
Sorry, I meant stuff like Iron and Protein.
torpid dirge
Sorry, I meant stuff like Iron and Protein.
ah! thats more along the lines of dieting and conditioning, not drugs
torpid dirge
wait oh you want a challenge
no, I want to play it the way it was intended
shrewd furnace
Yeah, it's basically food supplements, no?
torpid dirge
yeah, its basically like a flinstone gummy
torpid dirge
wait oh you want a challenge
Real people can't just fly or clear the weather whenever they want, so I refuse to use those quality of life HM's that aren't required
shrewd furnace
yeah, its basically like a flinstone gummy
Ah yes, super amphetamines.
torpid dirge
I forgot what that word means
burnt saffron
don’t get softlocked folks https://rasairui.tumblr.com/post/668586017203355648/shiny-pokemon-giveaways-shiny-pokemon-giveaways
static crow
So question to those who have purchased the new BDSP game: What are your overall thoughts so far? Was the purchase worth it?
floral thunder
do you want to mod it/play mods based on it, yes or no
if no, just go for renegade plat really
tawny iron
So question to those who have purchased the new BDSP game: What are your overall...
platinum is still by far the best way to experience sinnoh
hexed cloud
ive had a pretty fun time with it, but somehow ive been consistently on level lol
ive also never played/beaten plat or diamond/pearl so
torpid dirge
So question to those who have purchased the new BDSP game: What are your overall...
I've found it relatively enjoyable; you'd think the modern EXP share mechanic would be game breaking like how it was in SwSh, but funnily enough its pretty balanced. Some trainers use held items (Primarily GymLeaders and PokemonLeague) so if you think Ice-Type Moves will work on Cynthia's Garchomp, go re-think your life choices. And if Maylene's Lucario gets off more than one Bulk Up, say goodbye to your HP, since that thing has Drainpunch + Big Root so its basically unkillable past that point without a proper type advantage.
so yeah I'd say it was a pretty nice experience
static crow
Hmmmm ok
Thank you for the replies!
I've been on the fence on buying it to play with my friends and brother but wasn't sure if I would enjoy it outside the fun I'd have playing it with my fwiends
torpid dirge
Hmmmm ok
Its genuinely quite difficult in comparison to your average 3D pokemon game as long as your within range of the enemy pokemon levels; because if you get caught off guard thats all it takes for a gymleader to take full advantage of their life orb or Sitrus Berry and knock you down
if you liked DP and want to try it in 3D
that's basically what it is but now with the addition of gymleaders using actual braincells 1/4 times
floral thunder
Its genuinely quite difficult in comparison to your average 3D pokemon game as l...
average 3D pokemon game
gen6 -> gen8 as comparison
not much of a complement, if its even that
torpid dirge
I mean to be entirely fair every generation of pokemon is easy
but thats probably because i've played multiple pokemon games so the only difference in difficulty is really Single Pokemon EXP. Share or All Pokemon EXP. Share?
floral thunder
because setup is broken
torpid dirge
those were somewhat difficult, but not for the same reasons you'd find a gymleader difficult
pine ingot
fair
torpid dirge
its like, the Pokémon you'd use in competitive 1v1 are generally somewhat different to what you'd find in competitive 2v2
you'll get overlap in some instances, (just generically strong pokemon)
but in 2v2 you have the added difficulty of figuring out does the Pokémon you use support the other one
if you don't kill the support early, the totem pokemon will suddenly become 4x harder just because you let it get off its gimmick
in a gym battle the experience is usually just (WHY WON'T YOU STOP SPAMMING)
or you enter with a team of entirely weak or neutral Pokémon, and nothing that can deal super effective damage
floral thunder
in a gym battle the experience is usually just (WHY WON'T YOU STOP SPAMMING)
spamming items is definitely a high level strat
torpid dirge
well I mean, that is how I learned to become champion (as did a lot of people)
floral thunder
boring
pine ingot
huh
personally, ive never used items in battle
i dont use tanks, so i find them redundant cause you're just gonna take more damage again and again
torpid dirge
doubt
pine ingot
fair
torpid dirge
nobody uses a tanky pokemon when doing the story, they just find something that runs fast and hits hard
you just happen to accidentally drop below a desirable amount of HP, so you use one of the 200 Full Restores you bought and don't use
pine ingot
i dont use tanks, so i find them redundant cause you're just gonna take more dam...
oh yeah i should clear this up, i meant using my potions on my attackers was redundant
floral thunder
using items is boring
doesnt matter if you are the one using, or the AI
especially xitems
floral thunder
lets just give a free SD to a pokemon, sure is balanced
pine ingot
x items always remind me of the normal type gem from the hoenn games
gym
comedic typo
drifting thunder
In all my playthroughs now, I make an effort to return to pokecenters less, so I end up having to use items more to complete caves, gyms, etc. in one go. Its a lot more fun that way
rustic wolf
Its genuinely quite difficult in comparison to your average 3D pokemon game as l...
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhm have we been playing the same game? Cuz im super overleveled, i need to AVOID trainers to not get overleveled for the gyms, the exp being shared is over the top, it doenst make you on par with the trainers, it makes you over them easily
rustic wolf
So question to those who have purchased the new BDSP game: What are your overall...
like Low said, if you dont want to mod the game, just play normal platinum, it is not worth the full price, if its on sale for like 30, maybe then. You get way to overleved fast, there is no challenge, it is literally the same game as the originals, but easier. or just emulate it i suppose
rustic wolf
I mean to be entirely fair every generation of pokemon is easy
nah, all the sprite based games were always harder than the new ones for me lol and usum has some good stuff as well with trainers having IV trained pokemon and such
this video shared in the media room basically tells what i mean
rustic wolf
i think cuz it was made in unity it should be easier, i know there is a default dance from fortnite mod lol but not public yet
floral thunder
Reminds me, how are mods looking?
1º we are going for crappy memes
(e.g defaut dance)
wait for ~1 year for a balance change game (so games like external x)
~2 years for big stuff
rustic wolf
yeah its like literal only been out for 4 days, people will need time to figure out the game codes and such
west needle
Creative input stuff needs time. But you'll be surprised by how quickly the game will be in unity. You have no idea
west needle
Damn, that shit is gonna get taken down quick
Wait a second
That's not even a game.
It's a patreon literally just to look at the region that person is making
floral thunder
man people are making money that easily?
west needle
Well, the patreon has 0 patrons. So no
west needle
Not bashing the person. I just don't think people will be that interested in a patreon that pretty much only gives the patrons a little thing to read about a Pokemon region that doesn't exist.
shrewd furnace
I do get your point, yeah i think I will suggest them to explain more of their project.
floral thunder
i can see he getting money this way if he does art for the fakemon, kinda like how Subjectively does with its theoretical massuia region (i think this is how its typed out?)
umbral egret
Peopl will support a semi-finished product with constant updates instead of a patreon that is just lore.
people would need proof that its still being worked on, or if at all
shrewd furnace
Makes sense.
umbral egret
like if there was screenshots for a starting town, for some pokemon you can find there, important characters
last cloud
can you headbutt trees in sp ?
cunning parrot
nope, was only in heartgold i think
It was in gen 2 and HGSS
floral thunder
same games but this time they actually tried to make it better 
rustic wolf
Based