other-pokemon-games

[sweet crypt]

I think you know how that 30% is gonna go for me

I say Focus Blast is a 70% chance to win and Aura Sphere is a 100% chance to lose

[mighty robin]

it’ll land for the sake of trolling you

[sweet crypt]

But really it's more of a 20% chance to win

[wispy osprey]

Aura Sphere is goated because I used it on my special attacking lucario in black 2 and it demolished a solid half the game

[cloud lark]

Aura Sphere was a better move back in Gen 5 cause it was 90 BP instead of 80

Still don't know why they felt the need to nerf it

[jagged tendon]

Any game recommendations if my favorite games are Infinite Fusion, Pokerogue, and Insurgence?

I like when there's some canon pokemon but with some sort of fakemon twist

[thorny anchor]

aside from the fakemon part there's pokemon quetzal

has like every pokemon from every gen including the megas from za that aren't in champions

[coarse viper]

I always forget Maxie is the only villain with common sense in Pokemon

Like If I recall he is the only villain that pretty much says "Shit this is above us as a freaking Species"

Tho i give Cirus some leeway because the man whole plan is a self aware danger that he doesnt really expect to return from

[quick ruin]

Ah yes my favorite villain
Moxie, the ability that raise attack by one every time i kill the opponent mon

[sullen hill]

you mean the "Maxie" ability? "Moxie" is clearly the leader of Team Magma.

[coarse viper]

I should really stop typing things at 1 in the morning xD

[tight granite]

i genually thought i missed a villain

cause i was like "cant be Maxie" cause they said reasonable

guessed Moxie is from a fangame

[coarse viper]

I mean as far pokemon villains go Maxie reaches the conclusion that their plan is faulty and stupid..which cant be said the same for everyone else

[grim root]

Does anybody know a good fan game or rom hack to do a monotype run on maybe with regional forms for a more interesting playthrough

[smoky gyro]

just play Vega man

[coarse estuary]

can someone who has played pokemon z before explain why the game thinks its ok and fun for the ai to cheat

[coarse viper]

3 ultra balls lets go

[coarse viper]

Well this is a tad cracked

[sweet crypt]

He only realised it once his plan was on the verge of completion

Same with Archie

What kind of idiot, for any reason, would think removing all the water in the world or flooding it would be an objective good idea

[coarse viper]

I mean yeah thats what I said eventually he realises his plan is fairly dumb overall,

I agree that Maxie has like one of the worst plans overall from the start

[sweet crypt]

I'd argue that Archie and Maxie have the absolute worst plans of any Pokemon villain

Because at the very least, most of the others are for their own selfish gain

Rose is also stupid as shit though

But I'd argue he's not as stupid because theoretically if they did jack shit then in 1000 years Galar would run out of power

Archie and Maxie just woke up one day and developed the stupidest plan that'd destroy the world while actually thinking it'd benefit it

[coarse viper]

Oh i defiantly agree with the fact that their plans are dumb to begin with not much of a question in that aspect xD

Even between the two taking away all the water in the world is the worst of the two, at least with Archie sea creatures can live

[sweet crypt]

Idk though, something tells me that the dilution of the ocean is gonna negatively effect all the saltwater life

[coarse viper]

Ehh thats under the assumption the pokemon that are based on sea water animals follow the same rules of biology

And imma assume no on that one

Anyway Juan Quetzal down

Having access to so many Ghosts is nice

[coarse viper]

Ghosts conquered Quetzal...Holy hell Wallace was a paain

[thorny anchor]

I'm hardstuck at Roxanne with monotype bug

[coarse viper]

Yeaah good luck with that

[thorny anchor]

wallah I think it's impossible on max difficulty

[coarse viper]

His Greninja can go shove it

[thorny anchor]

how tf is any level 15 bug type supposed to tank a dual wingbeat from mega Aerodactyl? 😭

and nothing learns sticky web or speed setup that early

[coarse viper]

Lemme just say that Roxxanne has a Z move

[thorny anchor]

I'm aware

[coarse viper]

Flannery too

[thorny anchor]

the Geodude

[thorny anchor]

that's late enough I'll be able to push through

you get like so many good bug types early

[coarse viper]

You will need a tera first impression mega goly (Its what I will do in your place)

For Wallace's Greninja

[thorny anchor]

escavalier might be enough with a damage reducing berry

the sets are nowhere to be found so I haven't been able to calc anything accurately

[quick ruin]

Oh yes your right

[delicate hollow]

Soft resetting for shiny starter with 1 in 512 shiny odds (modified) is very annoying and time consuming

[smoky gyro]

Now shiny hunt normally

[sullen hill]

was playing masters EX and thought kukui's voice sounded familiar. looked it up, went down a bit of a wikipedia rabbit hole, and found out these VA's are married irl

alejandro saab and hayden daviau

[coarse viper]

Lmao they got the voice of Leon doing Kukui in the game

Goated pick ngl

[thorny anchor]

Alejandro Saab voices kukui?😭

[coarse viper]

In Master Ex specifically yeah

Apparently

[sullen hill]

and roark

[thorny anchor]

moving like DIO's va

[coarse viper]

He is also Deadpool's VA in rivals

[sullen hill]

idk why they got him doing the masked royale, tho. that guy and kukui are completely different.

[mighty robin]

because different voice range or something

Eeyore and Optimus Prime share a voice actor

[coarse viper]

Well then-

[supple basalt]

How much can I obtain in just over 24 hours? A good chunk apparantly

[sturdy sparrow]

CyYu?

[supple basalt]

Me? No, eclipserpg

[sturdy sparrow]

The va for Leon and Kukui it’s CyYu the YouTuber?

[tight granite]

woah a voice actor doing voice acting jobs

a crazy world

[sturdy sparrow]

Ignoring sarcastic remarks I really didn’t know he did Pokemon characters

[tight granite]

To me it seemed more that you where surprised that a youtuber does it

When him being a VA is also his job

[sweet crypt]

Hey chat! Have a fun quiz. Arrange these 6 Pokemon from lowest to highest SpA. There is 1 tie you need to be aware of. Bonus points if you guess the exact values
Octillery
Emboar (Base)
Virizion
Toedscruel
Lapras
Rotom (Base)
Mr. Mime (Kanto)

[coarse estuary]

now that ive beat z i will never touch another fan game by ericlostie

[sweet crypt]

Chat, rank these Pokemon from lowest to highest Attack (bonus points for direct stat guesses)
Haxorus
Blacephalon
Grapploct
Gigalith
Electivire
Dhelmise
Ursaring
Cranidos
Kingambit
Mega Camerupt
Mega Sharpedo
Lando-T
Tyrantrum
Melmetal
Escavalier
Darmanitan
Avalugg
Golurk
Mega Abomasnow

[smoky gyro]

If lando t isnt one of the lower ones Ill be shocked

Especially compared to stuff like haxorus and sharpedo

[sweet crypt]

I just realised this is the same server my SpA quiz is in oops

Uhhh

That one is probably easier so if anyone feels like doing these you should start with that one

[smoky gyro]

Also is this the fire darmanitan or the ice one

[sweet crypt]

Both have the same Attack

As long as it isn't their Zen Modes

Which it isn't

[smoky gyro]

That probably also is one of the higher ones

I know darmanitan hits hard

Wven without gorilla tactics

Yeah I knew blacepholon was a special attacker

That feels like its bait

Ursaring Sharpedo Haxorus Tyrantrum and Darmanitan are the top 5 is my guess

In no particular order

[sweet crypt]

Idk if anyone else will be trying this so I'm just gonna send the ranks now

Avalugg: 117
Grapploct: 118
Mega Camerupt: 120
Tyrantrum: 121
Electivire: 123
Golurk: 124
Cranidos: 125
Blacephalon: 127
Ursaring: 130
Dhelmise: 131
Mega Abomasnow: 132
Kingambit: 135
Escavalier: 135
Gigalith: 135
Darmanitan: 140
Mega Sharpedo: 140
Melmetal: 143
Lando-T: 145
Haxorus: 147

3/5 for the Top 5, very impressive tbh

Blacephalon's Attack is weirdly high for a Pokemon with 151 SpA

[smoky gyro]

Why tf is lando t so high-

I thought it was a bulky mon

And why tf is tyrantrum so low lmao

Avalugg being low doesnt surprise me its a phys def mon after all

[sweet crypt]

It's not necessarily that Tyrantrum is low

It's moreso the fact that everything else is also high

[sweet crypt]

If I had a questionnaire meant to ask people how good the Pokemon Types are

Where would I post it?

[supple basalt]

Probably just here idk

[sweet crypt]

I forgot I asked this here because that was 4 hours ago

Oops

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSccDFx5uYm2wWcyoPDCgWC8A-_CHxKbG6QTVQfAa3DesgxWEA/viewform

[cloud lark]

You think Steel would have a similar reputation to Ice if- like how Ice was treated- Steel was populated almost exclusively by Glass Cannons that didn't take advantage of the types strengths for around 2 decades?

[sweet crypt]

Quite an interesting thought

And it may be part of why a decent number of high ladder players voted Steel for A

Because at the end of the day, we have extremely skewed views on the Steel type because it's used like how it's supposed to be

We don't often see its weak side

[cloud lark]

The only Steel type Glass Cannon I can think of right now is Lucario, and even then it's Fighting type which benefits from being fast and hard hitting so it's not an issue for it

[brisk hedge]

Honestly, I still think steel would be considered to be at least decent, since steel is super effective against 3 types. Plus, the fact that steel resists more then half the game could make it so a steel glass canon could still live a hit or two

[supple basalt]

Lol

[sweet crypt]

The game is right, that is a large amount of money

[supple basalt]

This is my current squad tbh. I don't use much of anything not Delphox or Zacian lol

[supple basalt]

Indeed

Oh I have 17 master balls and have used several throughout the run

XD

Kings rock activates so much

[smoky gyro]

Yall I have a question

Does magic guard mean you cant hit yourself in confusion

[queen pecan]

still gonna hit yourself

[smoky gyro]

But its indirect da,age

damage

[smoky gyro]

Is that a 1 on special attack-

[queen pecan]

🤷‍♂️ still gonna take damage

[smoky gyro]

Thats stoobid

[queen pecan]

i believe its cause its counted as a 40 power typeless attack you do on yourself

[smoky gyro]

I didnt know it had a base power

[sweet crypt]

Confusion is one of the few forms of indirect damage that goes through Magic Guard

Others include moves that technically don't deal damage, but rather simply remove HP through other means

Explosion, Perish Song, Curse, Belly Drum, Substitute, Clangorous Soul and Destiny Bond come to mind

There are notably 3 moves that one may think would also bypass Magic Guard

Mind Blown, the signature move of Blacephalon, Chloroblast, the signature move of Hisuian Electrode, and Steel Beam, the "Draco Meteor" for the Steel types, so to speak

These moves have extremely high BP (150 for the 2 signature moves, 140 for Steel Beam), but deal 50% of the user's HP as self damage whether or not the move hits the target, distinguishing them from recoil moves

This is similar to moves like Belly Drum, but despite that, they do actually work with Magic Guard

[supple basalt]

Yes. I have 10 life orbs on it which enhances nature buff while nerfing the nature debuff

Since Zacian does not need special attack yeah I didn't gaf

I did lose that run at floor 2000 Eternatus sadly since it outsped all my mons except Zacian and Zacian did less damage than the tokens healed it

[smoky gyro]

Its just funny

Cause I dont play pokerogue

So seeing all the other stats at so high and then a 1 on sp atk is funny af-

[coarse viper]

I have the same thing on Niheligo but with defense

[sweet crypt]

Sans Undertale ass defense stat

Why are you not Modest lmao

[coarse viper]

Because when I started the run I didn't have a modest Niheligo

Aaand ironically enough after all these shop resets not even a single modest mint dropped

Oooo lets go

[worthy quartz]

Does that game really let you level up infinitely?

[coarse viper]

In endless mode? Probably
I will let you know if I reach a ceiling

[sweet crypt]

If you got stupid luck with candy jars and candies in Classic you could get to a really stupid level I imagine

[cloud lark]

As someone who has never played it every single screenshot of Pokerogue just looks like a shitpost

[coarse viper]

Eh in classic at most I managed is 220

Currently in Endless i get 50 levels per candy tho

[sweet crypt]

I've heard of people getting up to 1000

But ofc that would require frankly absurd luck

[sturdy sparrow]

What game is that?

[coarse viper]

Pokerogue

[sturdy sparrow]

Ok

[coarse viper]

Free on browser so no download needed

[coarse viper]

Well now... this actually was a bit close

[inland crane]

Did not do post game of BW, started this

[supple basalt]

Nothing wrong with BW Postgame

[inland crane]

I didn't play half of mainline games

I guess I gotta do main stories first

[cinder iron]

Waiting for a new 3DS charger to arrive so I can keep playing Black

[inland crane]

Sonicboom is a great move

Since everything is 2hko early

[tulip hollow]

I accidentally solo'd champion Iris with just a lilligant

[cloud lark]

Gonna take a guess and assume it was Sleep Powder+ Quiver Dance+ Petal Dance spam? Cause that's how I always ended up using Lilligant, and it's disgustingly strong

[tulip hollow]

close, it was sleep powder + quiver dance + energy ball/giga drain

not as strong as petal dance, but is more controllable due to no confusion or being locked into attacking

[cloud lark]

That's why I always go with Own Tempo on Lilligant, cause no confusion+ how often do you need to click anything other than the base 120 nuke

But I guess it's only a 50/50 chance to have that ability instead of chlorophyll so I get it

[delicate hollow]

Did anyone beat Red 20 levels below him on Mt Silver?

[wispy osprey]

yoooooo best Pokémon games spotted

[smoky gyro]

Blastoise the goat

[coarse viper]

Pff-

[smoky gyro]

Lmao

[smoky gyro]

Wtf is this insult lmao

Bro I love showdown players lmao

Bro calling me a cheap strat when hes using cosmic power body press

Lmao

[inland crane]

Does it have any stat changes?

[coarse viper]

Idk i feel its too soon to say
Still Bidoof being Dark/Normal is funny

[inland crane]

Changed my Volo team to be NatDex Ubers instead of NatDex, Lucario-M and Giratina really doing a hard work now

Spiritomb you will not be missed 🌹💝

[coarse viper]

Got Spiritomb in Arceus lets goo

[smoky gyro]

Ambipom my GOAT

[inland crane]

I hate that monkey

Actually any fake out user with a speed stat over 70 for that matter

[queen pecan]

https://tenor.com/sXtweFVyTr8.gif

[delicate hollow]

I can now play the game as normal

[smoky gyro]

-Speed +Sp.Atk, literally unplayable

[sweet crypt]

Ngl where did the misconception that Light of Ruin's recoil was 50% max HP instead of 50% damage dealt come from

And why do I still see it even after ZA and Champions confirm that it's the latter in a way that doesn't require hacking

[supple basalt]

Fera already has terrible speed and it doesn't have the worst sp atk in the world so it's not too much of a dagger getting sp atk over attack

[smoky gyro]

Isnt max hp recoil exclusively for mind blown

[sweet crypt]

It also exists for Steel Beam and Chloroblast

Light of Ruin notably predates the earliest of these moves, Mind Blown, by 1 generation

[smoky gyro]

I think its because the other 3 are all 140 or 150 bp, not fully accurate moves

Ngl I thought light of ruin was 120 bp-

150 is absurd-

[sweet crypt]

It's 140

Unless I'm being silly

[smoky gyro]

Oh wait yeah 140

Still

[sweet crypt]

And it's also inaccurate, with 90% accuracy

[smoky gyro]

Thats REALLY high

[sweet crypt]

Furthermore, Mind Blown is perfectly accurate

Though Steel Beam and Chloroblast are not

Light of Ruin is most similar to Head Smash

The same 50% damage dealt recoil

With Head Smash having 10 higher BP but 10% less Accuracy

[smoky gyro]

Im too used to playing head smash with rocky head mons

Lmao

Recoil who

[supple basalt]

Have ya'll ever seen a special attacking psychic type rock dog before?

....

Yeah me neither.

(Ignore how wild the stats look this site is really just a click to play site clickity clickity click so stats don't matter that much)

[coarse viper]

I was gonna ask if this is Pokerogue 2 xD

[supple basalt]

Nah XD You can battle on it but I would barely really call it battling because like

Literally just click to do the thing

Yes I'm punching myself in the face

[smoky gyro]

I was today years old when I learnt that hydreigon learns tri attack

I always thought its a signature move

[supple basalt]

I think it was Porygon's signature move once upon a time

[broken temple]

it was signature up till gen 2 i think

ye i just looked from gen 2
other pokemon could learn it like dugtrio or magneton

and dodrio

i guess they went hard on the 3 headed pokemon

[sweet crypt]

They really went "Yeah no Physical Attacks for Rock and Psychic are ass let's just make this mf a Special Attacker"

(Rock still has lacking moves on the special side 💀 )

I wonder if I can find out what its base stats are

With the formula SpA = ((2×Base+IV+EV/4)×Level)÷100 + 5 × Nature, assuming IVs are 31 and EVs are 0, we can plug in 127531 as the final SpA and 15670 as the level. I will refer to the base SpA as X in this formula.
127531 = ((2×X+31)×15670)÷100
12753100 = (2×X+31)×15670
813.85 (5 S.F) = 2×X+31
782.85 = 2×X
391.43 (5 S.F) = X
This seems a bit high, which could mean 1 of 3 things
1: This is a browser game. So the stat being this high makes total sense.
2: I did the math wrong. It has been a while since I've done math after all, and algebra isn't exactly a skill one uses in day to day life
3: This browser game uses a different formula
I did the math again, but assuming it had a +SpA Nature, and I got approximately 350 SpA, for anyone who was wondering. Since Lycanroc is known for Speed, and the Speed stat here seems a bit low, it could be possible this Lucario has a Quiet Nature. However, I do not have the Nature info here, and thus all this is speculation

[supple basalt]

There are several different variants on site. Galaxy is the only one with type, stat and move changes

And the site does kinda make up its own moves

Aerial Rock Blast

And the normal Rock Blast I have there cause this site gives mons no coverage (cause they don't need it, it's pretty much a ton of just ohkoing lol) is actually special on this site

[sweet crypt]

Ngl I'm starting to see a lot of people say that Solgaleo is better than Lunala competitively

Which is strange

Because anyone with competitive knowledge would know that's about as far from the truth as possible

With Lunala being like

Far, FAR stronger competitively in every single generation, for both Singles and Doubles

It isn't particularly close

[supple basalt]

Solgaleo is part steel but Lunala defo is better at mass murder

[sweet crypt]

I'm trying to track down some like

Extremely niche format I could be missing

But uhh

I've not been successful so far

[supple basalt]

Solgaleo's not in ZA right? So like it's not a situation like with Zama where Solgaleo got a huge buff

[sweet crypt]

Lunala literally won Worlds in VGC 2019

[supple basalt]

Yeah I did know that

[sweet crypt]

And like, 6 other Lunala teams placed higher than the highest ranking Solgaleo team

And anyone who has played Singles can tell you that Solgaleo is both lacking and sorely outclassed by Necrozma in Ubers

It isn't hard to be better than it

[supple basalt]

Solgaleo has better defensive typing I think but yeah Lunala is better at absolute mass murder.

[sweet crypt]

And Lunala is straight up great in Ubers

[supple basalt]

Lunala's stats are GREAT

[sweet crypt]

Quite frankly, Solgaleo is worse than Gothorita in Gen 7 Ubers

[supple basalt]

Solgaleo has equally good attack but I don't think its Movepool is as good is it?

[sweet crypt]

It isn't hard to imagine how Lunala would be better

[supple basalt]

Not at all

[sweet crypt]

Solgaleo would probably be like, idk, a B tier Pokemon

... if it wasn't for the existence of Necrozma Dusk Mane

That does everything Solgaleo wants to do, but far better

Which is a similar reason to why Necrozma Dawn Wings doesn't see use

Lunala outperforms it by a wide margin and as does NDM

And while NDM doesn't compete for role, it competes for the slot anyways

Because of species clause

[supple basalt]

I don't understand why their speed is lower than base Necrozma though

By like two points but still

Then Ultra Necrozma is fucking cracked

[sweet crypt]

Unec is actually worse than NDM funnily enough

Though they aren't directly comparable because of the stark contrast of role

And Unec is actually worth using unlike NDW

The biggest reason why is the type

Dragon/Psychic is a pretty poor type

[supple basalt]

Aren't Solgaleo and NDW at least better than the other steel/psychic type or does Serene Grace make Jirachi objectively better

[sweet crypt]

And also leaves Unec with very few good Dragon STAB moves

[sweet crypt]

NDW is a Psychic/Ghost so idk why it's being compared to other Steel/Psychics

[supple basalt]

Sorry I meant

NDM

XD

[sweet crypt]

NDM is a Top 2 Pokemon in Gen 7 Ubers

[supple basalt]

Gotcha

[sweet crypt]

And is a large reason as to why other Steel/Psychics like Mega Metagross and Solgaleo struggle to find their footing

[sweet crypt]

OK but seriously

Dragon types have like, 0 outstanding Physical moves

With Dragon Claw's 80 BP very often falling short

And Outrage locking you in often causing your Dragon Type to die 1 turn after it clicks Outrage

Meanwhile, Dragon Pulse's 85 BP, while better, still leaves something to be desired

And unlike other Dragon types, Unec cannot Draco Meteor

Because only Pokemon that are Dragon Types in an outside-of-battle form can learn it

[jagged tendon]

Looking for some games on par with IF, my favorite fangames are IF, Pokerogue, Insurgence, and Reborn, i quite like well made games with new mechanics

[sweet crypt]

If you like Reborn, you'll probably like Rejuvenation (though it is still in-development)

[supple basalt]

They're made by the same team right? I know they share a discord

Rejuv and Reborn are in the same discord lol

[jagged tendon]

I'm aware of the two made by the same people, was wondering if there were any more fangames i wasnt aware of

[supple basalt]

You can give TGOM a try but it gets old fast

[sweet crypt]

Some of the Reborn devs don't work on Rejuv, but yes, some of them do work on it as well

And it also still keeps Reborn's most defining feature, being the many crazy field effects

[supple basalt]

The next best thing I can suggest are ROMHacks. I've been playing Pokemon Quetzal lately, which is an Emerald ROMHack with playable characters from all gens and all pokemon gens one all the way to the new ZA megas

All updated mechanics as well including the fucking Protean nerf

[sweet crypt]

I wonder if the Protean nerf was targeting Gren and Cinderace

[supple basalt]

Valid

[sweet crypt]

Or if they were nerfing it because of Meowscarada

[supple basalt]

Probably but it could have been a decision made after also giving it to Meow

So targeting all 3

[sweet crypt]

That's what I was wondering yeah

[supple basalt]

Oh I didn't even see you say that

XD

[sweet crypt]

After all, Meowscarada's Attack is above Cinderace's, and its Speed eclipses that of Greninja's

So by all means, it is the most offensively built of the Protean/Libero Pokemon as a whole

(Nobody will argue for Kecleon)

[sweet crypt]

(Well, until Mega Gren)

[supple basalt]

And even without the Pokerogue egg moves it has coverage for days

Gren does too

[sweet crypt]

I love clicking Triple Axel!

Misses after the first hit

[supple basalt]

The Taxel button is my favorite button, especially when the game gives me the Wide Lens I crave

2 wide lens = never miss

[sweet crypt]

It's funny how Meowscarada's best egg move in Pokerogue is one of its actual moves

[supple basalt]

SP?

[sweet crypt]

Taxel

[supple basalt]

OH IT ACTUALLY GETS THAT?!

[sweet crypt]

Yup

[supple basalt]

Via TR/TM???

[sweet crypt]

Yup

[supple basalt]

That's sick

[sweet crypt]

It does get Sucker Punch too but iirc it doesn't use it that often

[supple basalt]

And you realluy don't wanna be giving Meow Wide Lens in competitive when there are better items tbh

I mean does it need priority with 123 base speed XD

[sweet crypt]

It's also partially the fact that Meowscarada does run Choice Scarf/Band sets

[supple basalt]

Yeah

[sweet crypt]

And you really don't want to lock into Sucker Punch on a Choiced set

[supple basalt]

And how often is that a flower trick set lmao

[sweet crypt]

100%

Well actually

Idk

[supple basalt]

Sometimes it isn't

[sweet crypt]

If you're Protean then it mostly is just big damage button

But one with many resistances

You definitely always run U-Turn and Knock Off

Does Meowscarada get Trick?

[supple basalt]

Both very good competitively. I never use them in casual but if I did do competitive those would be what I use

Uhhh

[sweet crypt]

I imagine it would since its signature move is Flower Trick

[supple basalt]

Yes

[sweet crypt]

I can see it running that over like, Flower Trick or Taxel I guess?

[supple basalt]

I assume to lock the opponent into a move they don't wanna use

Lol

[sweet crypt]

Because tricking a wall a Choice Item is an amazing way to cripple its ass

[supple basalt]

Oh 100% XD

[sturdy sparrow]

Got a weavile in champions what moveset I got ice punch night slash for stab but I really don’t know

[supple basalt]

Knock Off. Idk tbh

[sturdy sparrow]

I want to replace dig but I prefer variety

[vernal sluice]

has anyone here played PokeRogue?

[supple basalt]

Many much of us

[coarse viper]

raises hand
Sup?

I just love how I get hit by rock slide through a +4 evasion 2 times in a row but when I use it i miss 3 times in a row

Lovely rng

[sturdy sparrow]

What about missing killing high horsepower and rock slide in the same battle

[hollow fulcrum]

so ive start to play pokemon unbound and wanted to know if it was normal that my pokemon got a pokevirus, since i was close of the start of the game i just though maybe the game gave us that but i arent sure, anyone know?

[supple basalt]

Pokerus is in all games. It's a rare virus that spreads to your party mons and promotes EV gain

[hollow fulcrum]

yeah but i was wondering if i just got absolutly super lucky or if it was normal to have it (because yes i know what the pokevirus is)

[supple basalt]

It's luck.

[hollow fulcrum]

ah okay thanks!

[supple basalt]

To elaborate the luck

It's rarer than a shiny by a longshot

[mighty osprey]

Found one of my old cards... i think this might be a PSA 10 /s

[sturdy sparrow]

It could have sentimental value

[sturdy sparrow]

Is druddigon a responding wanderer ik 2 spots but they haven’t responded yet

[sweet crypt]

Taxel and Knock Off over Ice Punch and Night Slash

Taxel may have some accuracy issues but the payoff for landing all 3 hits is more than worth it

And Ice Punch's 75 BP really doesn't cut it

Knock Off may have a deceptive 65 BP, but since most Pokemon will have items, it's usually gonna be 1.5× that

And after a Swords Dance, not many things will live after that first Knock Off anyways if you're playing Singles

If you're playing Doubles then Incin is an actual consideration

But if you're playing Doubles then you shouldn't be using Weavile anyways

Anyways apart from the STABs and Swords Dance, you can also run Low Kick for Dark and Steel types, particularly heavy ones like Kingambit

Or Ice Shard as priority

[hollow fulcrum]

and yet i only had a shiny once in my whole life ;-;

[sweet crypt]

I just got full parad 6 times in a row today... twice

And frozen by Ice Beam 5 times

[supple basalt]

Actually insane

[sweet crypt]

Today is NOT my lucky day

Missed the Sludge Bomb Poison 10/10 times too

Oh and a Diancie Diamond Storm procced the Defence Rise 3 times in a row

And I've missed like, 75% of my Ceaseless Edges

And let's not even begin to mention the number of times I've been hit by a game altering crit today

May be close to the double digits

Today's been shit

[hollow fulcrum]

yeah usualy in term of luck im....quick terrible

[supple basalt]

Mood

[hollow fulcrum]

yeah i can relate, ive been paralysed for 15 turn today, new record for me

[sweet crypt]

Game did not want you to play apparently what the fuck

[hollow fulcrum]

and yet its far from the worst thing that happend by luck for me XD

[sturdy sparrow]

Same day 2 battles in a row
1 ice fang
2 an ice beam
On the same mon

[cloud lark]

I am once again asking Gamefreak to just kill Freeze altogether and replace it with Frostbite

[supple basalt]

Fr

Special Burn please

[mighty robin]

while not the focus, I’m pretty sure the third image is a rule 2 violation

[hollow fulcrum]

not a fan of charizard, but those are sick ass amazing tattoo

[split yoke]

Didn't notice that one. Thanks for pointing it out. But replying would have let me know you were talking to me. lol

[mighty robin]

yeah, you’re probably right

[coarse estuary]

bro route 3 really dont wanna give me the bagon so i can try to sala hunt for my dragon monolocke of usum

[astral quartz]

So I found a site that has you try and choose the best BST possible, there is a megas only filter.

[vernal sluice]

other than fusion are there any pokemon games that shake up the formula significantly?

[sweet crypt]

I think turning Pokemon into a Roguelike counts

There's also Elite Redux that gives every Pokemon 4 abilities

At the same time

[dry burrow]

On my copy of Pokémon Black my entire team have Pokérus i dont know how

[rugged comet]

It spreads

[tight granite]

ye only the first one is rare

tho it also goes away again

[smoky gyro]

What happens if you transform into a dynamic/gigantamax, a mega, or a tera

Do you keep those attributes or no

[hollow fulcrum]

which game does that?

ive spend alot of time trying to find a rogue lite/like where you play AS the pokemon but not just any pokemon mystery dungeon

[tight granite]

pokerogue

[hollow fulcrum]

is there any other? i already played that one and you play as a trainer still

[tight granite]

just answered your question about what legend meant

i dont much play fangames so cant say

if you want a game where you are a pokemon but its not MD you could do PokePark Games, they are fun but you are always Pikachu

[hollow fulcrum]

no worry lol

[hollow fulcrum]

yeah already played those

also for some reason i was sure you had a zoro profile picture-

[tight granite]

never had that

[dry burrow]

Why everyone hate gen 5

[sweet crypt]

Consider the following: You're currently living in the past

[dry burrow]

There's people that still hate gen 5 in 2026

[hollow fulcrum]

WHO hate gen 5, thats the real question

[sweet crypt]

Gen 5 nowadays is like, top 3 most glazed generations

[sweet crypt]

You can say the same for any generation

Except maybe Gen 3

I don't see a lot of Gen 3 hate

[worthy bear]

everything has haters ^^

[hollow fulcrum]

which game is that already? i alway forget

[sweet crypt]

RSE and FRLG

[hollow fulcrum]

and with the full letter?

[sweet crypt]

Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald, Fire Red and Leaf Green

[hollow fulcrum]

oooh ruby and sapphire, i dont hate it but too much water

[sweet crypt]

laugh track

[hollow fulcrum]

but more seriously, alpha sapphire and omega ruby was really cool

even if in my heart, y and x will alway stand at the top

[dry burrow]

My Team of White 2

[hollow fulcrum]

aaah yes the noodle without weakness

[dry burrow]

Haxorus with mold breaker: WHO DECIDED THAT

[hollow fulcrum]

fair XD

[dry burrow]

Btw i Beat Cynthia in Pokèmon Black with just an Haxorus and whitout taking damage

[hollow fulcrum]

damn thats nice, i never fighted Cynthia so no idea

[dry burrow]

I have a Simipour on my team just because in gen 5 water types are kinda bunz

[sturdy sparrow]

I didn’t like ash in gen 5

[hollow fulcrum]

i mean, sure but that aint the black and white, its a series

[sturdy sparrow]

Yea honestly never ranked past my fav gen of game

[dry burrow]

Bro lose to a level 5 snivy 💔

[tight granite]

wasnt level 5 and pikachu was heavily nerved by zekrom

still a weird battle sure...but man do i hate people talking about things they have no clue about

[brisk hedge]

Fun fact: levels don’t exist in the anime

[sturdy sparrow]

Yea a run-in with zekrom took away its electric attacks but also the battle with the electric gym doesn’t help

[tight granite]

also very true

and i am glad for this

makes stuff much more interesting

rather then having like Turtwig not be able to battle at all later, it can always battle the same

[sturdy sparrow]

Few others but yea Im fine with the gen 5 games and the pokemon

[tight granite]

right, thats the one where he only took 1 pokemon with him right?

[dry burrow]

Ash lost to a trainer with 5 pokemon meanwhile him had 6

[tight granite]

ok?

[sturdy sparrow]

Pokemon league ash’s final battle

That really hurt

[dry burrow]

Black and White anime was the reason why alot of people hated gen 5

[cloud lark]

Remember the Zebstrika with 4 Normal moves

[sturdy sparrow]

Does that meme with 3 heads and 1 being goofy looking apply here?

[sturdy sparrow]

Yea stephin really said I’ll throw them for a loop

[dry burrow]

Chat have you ever played the Black and White postgame and notice that the trainers are so freaking strong? they have lvl 65 pokemon meanwhile everyone has lvl 45-50 pokemon in their team. I still dont understand why game freak made that postgame so dirty

[sturdy sparrow]

Better post game than the 8th gym

[coarse viper]

Tate and Liza level jump be like

[sturdy sparrow]

When you get to post game is when you start IV and EV breeding right?

[sturdy sparrow]

Fair

[cloud lark]

You guys ever notice how ill fitting most of the gym puzzles are relative to their type in Gen 3?

Brawly, the Fighting type specialist? His gym is about navigating through darkness.
Flannery, the Fire type gym leader? Her gym has you digging through the ground.
Norman, the Normal type expert? A dojo that emphasizes different Fighting styles.
Winona, who specializes in Flying? Pushing around a bunch of wooden beams.
And the Water gym? Walking across ice tiles.

[cinder iron]

A lot of them feel like they could be based around either what that type is weak to or strong against lol

Fighting is strong against Dark, Fire is weak to Ground, Normal is weak to Fighting, Flying is strong against Grass, Water resists Ice

[dim drum]

Can I shiny flex this server?

[woeful cosmos]

i mean theres nothing stopping you XD

[brisk hedge]

I mean, the sand (or water outside of emerald) in Flannery’s gym is hot at least

[tight granite]

feel free, tho at this point shiny hunting kinda became so easy its hardly a flex tbf

[cloud lark]

Unless it's gens 6 and prior

[shy fable]

Gym leaders with all these shenanigans, fear the gym leader who's gym is sandwiched in between an er on one side and a morgue on the other.

[wooden delta]

Can anyone help me evolve my finizen in pokemon violet???

[sturdy sparrow]

Usage percentage in competition any competition

[wooden delta]

Yo could you help me

[sturdy sparrow]

Unfortunately I don’t have a subscription

[wooden delta]

Ok thanks anyway

[sturdy sparrow]

Sorry I couldn’t be of help

[wooden delta]

It’s not your fault

[wooden delta]

@here

Mb wrong server

[smoky gyro]

Wait what is this tera bp minimum thing

[smoky gyro]

This is bs-

[supple basalt]

Angy Mew

Confused Mew (I should revisit this ROMHack lol)

[frank lily]

?

[smoky gyro]

Bro this is the most ai thumbnail ever-

[sweet crypt]

It's self explanatory, but basically, with the exception of priority and multi-hit moves, Tera raises the BP of all moves that are the same type as the Tera Type to 60 BP

[cloud lark]

Mega Lop got crazy nerfed in Champions too from what I've seen. Yeah that's just an AI content farm. The name of the channel is pretty indicative of that too

[nova kayak]

You can report channels like that nowadays and they generally get taken down as a result.

[sweet crypt]

Yeah, it did

Gained CC which it didn't have in Gen 7

But lost any semblance of a good Normal STAB

[cloud lark]

It's so easy to act like Normal is an objectively bad type till you see how bad Lop is doing now that it's missing it's Base 102 STAB that hits all but 2 types for neutral damage

[nova kayak]

Normal’s never been bad, it’s just boring. In gen 1, Normal types (and Hyper Beam) in large part defined what was in the meta, with Rhydon largely dominating because it resisted Hyper Beam.

[smoky gyro]

Ngl I always thought Return is 120

[cloud lark]

You'd be surprised how many people still call it the 3rd worst type regardless

[nova kayak]

Considering how heavily competitive cares about number of weaknesses and immunities, only one weakness and one immunity is real tough to beat

[cloud lark]

And yet people still moan about no resistances and no types weak to it

I agree that it's a good type, it's just that people can be stupid

[nova kayak]

Neutral damage on more types is exactly why Dark is considered one of the best offense types. And Dark is weak to Fairy, which is a huge problem for it.

[sweet crypt]

Gen 1 is literally its best gen tbf

[cloud lark]

The lack of Steel type and Fighting being trash was definitely a big boon for it back then

[nova kayak]

As someone who’s been with the series the entire time, hard disagree. It had some SERIOUS problems that needed to be fixed.

[crimson rampart]

anyone know where i can get pokemon blaze black 2?

[cloud lark]

Even with the issues it had back then it still had the benefits of its best counters being either functionally or literally nonexistent, plus STAB on the best attacking move in the game

Even if it saw some improvements, later iterations of Normal still had to contend with Steel being added and the meteoric rise in viability of both Ghost and Fighting

[nova kayak]

My competitive hot take is that a lot of the current problems would be fixed if Bug resisted Fairy.

[sweet crypt]

I feel like its most serious problem was that it was so broken ngl

Literally on a similar level of crack as Psychic

Partially because Psychic turned one of its weaknesses into a non-factor

(Also the likes of Tauros can still take on the best Fighting types in the game relatively well because Submission is ass)

[nova kayak]

And because Speed was a crit stat back then

[simple quartz]

https://www.tumblr.com/batgirlteeth/816221009054253056?source=share

ababababa

🔁 prettiestplatypus

I still really like Pokopia, have more ditto sweetness

Tumblr · May 10, 2026, 10:30 AM

Shout out to y'all out there

[tepid cipher]

Very nice, sadly no bugs. Gen 5 had some of the best bug types to he introduced. Cool designs and decent stats.

Least merica bird made it lol

[tight granite]

the last area ingame removed any real interest to me to try and make it look good lul. like after cleaning up 3 areas...they really go "how about we dont just only give you an entirely broken and ruined town..but also have mountains of literal trash around"

im glad atleast silph co was a kit built and didnt need to be done by hand...but that only made me wish otherthings ingame could be done via kits and its your choice to rebuilt it via that or by hand.

ah didnt mean to @

[kindred widget]

outta curiosity has anyone been playing cobblemon lately? i'm lowkey obsessed with it

[winged lotus]

This is quite cute

[tight granite]

nah dont care for the style

mons be lookin uggo

despite being an entirely different style to mc, i much prefer pixelmon using just the 3d models

[sturdy sparrow]

So Pokemon champion have bots?

[tight granite]

yes

the first like 3 or 4 battles are always bots

[sturdy sparrow]

I mean the pple I keep bumping into that supposedly lock in their picks on the last second

[noble zealot]

I used to prefer Pixelmon's style, but Cobblemon's style has really grown on me.

Still, I wish Cobblemon had more content.

[stark plover]

i agree. but then again pixelmon takes up a LOT of storage. cobblemon runs better. i do wish they had a way to make single player less lonely tho

[noble zealot]

Pretty much.

Forge is a resource hog, and Fabric runs decently enough.

[stark plover]

its more low-end computer friendly

[dry burrow]

I decided to play emerald but that game after 7 hours bored me so i gave up

Same with platinum

[cinder iron]

I'm replaying Shield for an amazing reason

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-sword-and-shield-happy-gif-15793024

[dry burrow]

The only gen i like to play and replay with no limits is gen 5

[cinder iron]

I also want to play LG in French

[dry burrow]

i would replay Pokémon Black 100.000 times in a row and still having fun

[cinder iron]

I'm waiting until my new 3DS charger comes in so I can play Black

[dry burrow]

on my copy of black i have Galvantula and Volcarona on my team my favorite Bug types

[sweet crypt]

Have been playing it on a server

Am currently deciding which Grass/Ghost Rapid Spinning shitmon would be funnier to run

[sweet crypt]

Speaking of which...

[tight granite]

i like both of these mons

so thats an annoying name. also i dont think Dhelmise can really spin

[sweet crypt]

They are, by definition, shitmons in the context of me playing on a Cobblemon server

Since they're both low-tier Pokemon that will likely be going up against the likes of Sneasler

Or Eternamax Eternatus

Though tbf, everything looks like a shitmon in the face of Eternamax

[tight granite]

so is a battle server or what

[sweet crypt]

Mega Rayquaza? Shitmon

[tight granite]

i have never actually seen a cobblemon server focused on battling

[sweet crypt]

Calyrex Shadow? Shitmon

So really by that logic, Brambleghast and Dhelmise are like

Shitmon to the power of 7

Shitmon⁷, if you will

But counterpoint: It'd be mad funny

[sweet crypt]

And to address this point, both Brambleghast and Dhelmise learn Rapid Spin

[tight granite]

gotcha

[sturdy sparrow]

It can swing the anchor

[tight granite]

strong ass seagrass

[sturdy sparrow]

I think I would’ve used brambleghast in champions for the ability

[sweet crypt]

It really is, have you seen its Attack stat?

[tight granite]

i dont really pay attention to such stuff

i dont play comp so stats, abbilitys and typings are hardly something i gotta care about

just use what i like

only know some mons stats and abbilties due to them being more lore tied. like slow start or how mega golurk has unseen fist due to having now controlled rocket hands

or Arceus and Silvally having the same stat number in all, or Whilipedes stat total being 360 cause it can do a 360

[mild dirge]

if either of my pokemon didn’t get flinched I could’ve won the game 😔

[sweet crypt]

"Unfortunate" doesn't begin to describe that RNG

[hollow fulcrum]

what was the move you tried to do?

[mild dirge]

I tried to ko the sylveon cause it was low

[hollow fulcrum]

yeah but with which move?

like which attack

[mild dirge]

waterfall and rock slide respectively

[hollow fulcrum]

oof, yeah thats though luck, did the sylveon had any dodging stats up?

[mild dirge]

nope I just got double flinched and then ko'd on both my mons with pixilate hyper voice because it was faster

[hollow fulcrum]

yeah as someone who got paralysed for 15 turn, i can share your pain

sometime there just nothing we could've done

[arctic bone]

Is anyone available to help me evolve a graveler in home or SV?

[mild dirge]

I am putting the knowledge of sableye learning metal burst to good use

[hollow fulcrum]

damn

[granite cloud]

holy clutch and a half

[noble zealot]

Replaying peak

[winged lotus]

I didn’t know either of those were possible mons for it

[noble zealot]

SkyTemple

[brisk hedge]

How do I hire these thugs?

[noble zealot]

They probably work like in Skyrim

[brisk hedge]

I've never played Skyrim

[noble zealot]

You steal an item, and hired thugs have a chance of spawning every time you rest or enter an area.

[analog forge]

whats another pokemon fangame that i can play on joiplay

[simple quartz]

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double western bacon cheeseburger (@Andrich_Galam)

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[coarse estuary]

getting back to my casual white 1 run and im at skylas gym. this is a good fun replay

[fallow bear]

Um ok, sure I guess

Not completely sure what they were thinking there

[smoky gyro]

Wtf is this move-

So its stronger than foul play?

[broken temple]

its a counter move

you use it after getting hit to do damage

[coarse viper]

Radical Erika down
Easier than Surge for sure

[vague haven]

So I'm playing through pokemon quetzal and I think I made a mistake

[supple basalt]

Oh?

[vague haven]

Why he so large

[ocean salmon]

Does regigigas happen to have slow start in ZA like he did in Arceus

[sand lion]

regigigas isn't in za

[past maple]

Question, is someone playing Pokemon Z here? If so how do I train IV just in like Pokemon anil since they're both the same developers

[cloud lark]

Couldn't imagine Mega Golurk being any smaller tbh

[pine seal]

idk anything about pokemon anil but I've played of pokemon Z a little, throughout the story and sometimes on the ground youll find 'cap' items that are essentially tailored bottle caps, they'll increase the IVs for a pokemon of whatever stat the cap specifies

so like vigor cap is +7 IVs to hp, or maybe vigor is for attack, I don't remember, but you get the idea

[broken temple]

i very much respect this tier list

O7

[dry burrow]

i'm a gen 5 glazer ofc

[broken temple]

im not a gen 5 glazer

but

i can agree those are good games

[dry burrow]

imo the gen 3 remakes are better than the originals

[broken temple]

well

yuh

they added alot of stuff

[dry burrow]

HGSS are kinda overrated

terrible level curve

[broken temple]

i like the graphics of hgss
but its just gen 2

which is already a lacking region

[dry burrow]

the level curve in gen 2 is so bad that i need to use rare candies

[broken temple]

last time i played gen 2 i found my self infront of the elite 4 like 12 levels under

had to grind for like 2 hours

[dry burrow]

At least in gen 5 i'm always very Overleveled

[broken temple]

ah gen 5 makes the grinding somewhat ok
and you have trainers you can rebattle
so it helps

i dont like the gen 5 pokedex
but i enjoy the progression of the game and how it looks

[dry burrow]

Only on BW2 you can rematch trainers in some routes

[broken temple]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dry burrow]

which made the game easy

[past maple]

Pokemon Z and Anil have the same devs, when you finish Pokemon Anil they'll recommend you playing Pokemon Z next

And thanks for the info

[dry burrow]

I reached the Pokemon league with level 68 pokemon

[pine seal]

oh neat, I just saw someone playing Z on tiktok and learned it was past Kalos during the war which I thought was cool

[delicate oxide]

What game is this ?

[vague haven]

Pokemon quetzal

[delicate oxide]

ohhh coool

[noble zealot]

As long as we're doing tierlists...

[brisk hedge]

Glad to see Let’s Go where it belongs

[supple basalt]

Let's go isn't bad it

Jsust

*Just

Sucks

Why is BDSP in C

[brisk hedge]

That sounds like saying it’s bad in a different font

[supple basalt]

BDSP is the true Dogshit

Let's Go at least deserves F tier

[brisk hedge]

No, Let’s Go is leaps and bounds worse

[supple basalt]

F for failure

[noble zealot]

Eh, never minded BDSP too much

[coarse viper]

No i dont like gen 1 and gen 2 games

[tight granite]

APP

[supple basalt]

Eusine lol

[vague haven]

Or perhaps don't be aggressive with the dog that can walk on water

[supple basalt]

Fr

[noble zealot]

But have Eusine Suicune?

[small dirge]

I'd move za down one maybe but I agree with this

[brisk hedge]

What dog that can walk on water?

[vague haven]

Suicune

[brisk hedge]

That doesn’t answer my question

[vague haven]

There's a pun here I just don't know what it is

[supple basalt]

Hell yeah

[vague haven]

YOO SHINY HISUIAN ZORUA AS A BUDDY

[supple basalt]

IKR Some of the starters are just randomly shiny lol

[vague haven]

That and hisuian zorua has probably one of the best shinies period

[supple basalt]

It does

[vague haven]

Also zorua is just a silly goober so that's another bonus

[supple basalt]

Happy Zorua noises intensify

The people who do these portraits are way too good at making them fun

[vague haven]

Tbf tho that's just how I am every time I see a cute pokemon

[tight granite]

but it died, it cant grow up healthy

[supple basalt]

That's because I'm just built different

[noble zealot]

I actually started my own not too long ago

[supple basalt]

Nice!

[vague haven]

Dear god body press mega aggron is stupid

[arctic idol]

-# ROSERADE

What is this? The start of Team Raiders?

[noble zealot]

Nah, just Team Hired Thugs

[vague haven]

Team rn

[vague haven]

I have made something stupid

Via cheats I made this

I'm proud of my creation

[coarse estuary]

thinking of doing a fun challenge run and was wondering for the sake of what legal mons id have if you guys think single stage mons are the same as fully evolved mons like venusaur or are like base forms like espurr'

[mild dirge]

Gallade is good in champions
Not for its mega it’s mega is mediocre

But for its base form it’s a great support pokemon I have one thats fast and moderately bulky and imprisons: trick room, rockslide and wide guard

With another one that goes faster than and one shots basculegion, sneasler and kingambit (excluding them getting speed boosts or trick room)

sole purpose of the second gallsde is to target those pokemon and tank at least one hit from them, which works really well at least in low master ball where I can pick up KO’s on them turn 1 unexpectedly and keep the tempo going from there

[winged lotus]

Honestly, I like normal zorua more

[sweet crypt]

Sneasler is faster than Gallade even without Unburden

[mild dirge]

I forgot to mention I have choice scarf

[sweet crypt]

Ah, ok then

[vague haven]

Both are really cute tho

[winged lotus]

Definitely

[noble zealot]

Reminds me of a Magikarp I once genned

[vague haven]

Tbf I think generating mons with moves they shouldn't have isn't a bad thing so long as you don't go into competitive

[mild dirge]

If you go into competitive you’re immediately gonna get shot by Nintendo so

[vague haven]

Also seeing digglet using dragon ascent is funny as hell

[woeful magnet]

Can anyone help me evolve palafin?

[coarse estuary]

ok 7 gyms down. decided to hack in my durant before taking on brycen just so i could have it for more than just the elite 4 and post game

[sturdy sparrow]

I’m trying to rng an adamant kubfu

[sturdy sparrow]

Got it

[reef path]

Worse arceus My ahh, this dawg just pulled a win against the main villian surviving a geomancy boosted moonblast from xerneas, doing a ohko on zygarde and leaving yahveltal on 1 hp so staraptor could clean up

The goat

[coarse estuary]

idk if this is a dumb idea or not but I had an idea for a casual Pokémon vs. with someone playing the opposite version (or a 3rd version). After each gym, trial, etc. up to the Champion, we’d do a just-for-fun battle with our current teams. I think it’d be fun seeing how each other’s teams evolve over the game and which Pokémon get kept or replaced. all battles would be played on showown and we would do battles after every gym/trial/grand trial and a final one after the champion is beaten

[reef path]

Sounds fun

But i got to ask, what rules would the battles have? Doubles, singles, level cap, things like that

And also, cha doing a sideflip

[coarse estuary]

the rules would just be single battles with whatever levels/moves/items/evs/ivs your mons have after each checkpoint in game. so ie if you have 2 level 12s after gym 1 you would go into the battle with both mons being level 12. the only real rules are no hacking in max ivs/evs/illegal moves and natures to your mon in game to get an advantage in battle and no grinding or candying to extremely high levels to get any unfair advantages, and gift/event mons you can access through any means can be used but cant be counted or put on as part of the team until the rest of your pokemon are around that level ie the ash greninja from the sm demo wouldnt be allowed on your team until the rest of your mons were 35 or around mid 30s in level for the story

[reef path]

Pretty understandable, also, somehow i pictured greninja waiting on the sidelines cheering for the rest of the team while he cant battle, xd

Well, i'm doing a UM run rn, i just got out of the fighting trial

I would like to do something like what youre saying

So i ask, in the situation i do something like that, should i restart the run? Or do i wait for the other person to catch up

[coarse estuary]

well it would depend on the agreed upon gen to do the run in and what version you would get

[reef path]

Well, it would be fun to do one on a Game where there's variety for teams, like a lot, so something between 5 to 7 (since i don't have a switch and My cellphone can't run any switch emulators) at least for My case

[coarse estuary]

lol i wouldnt even use an emulator lol. only external software id use is like pksm or pkhex just so i could make sure my moves ability nature ivs and evs are accurate on showdown to what i have in game

[reef path]

I deadass would just have the game on the emulator and would just play with the iv and evs till it matches, cause i don't know how to see them in game

[coarse estuary]

you dont see them in game. you use an external sofware to view them lol

[reef path]

Damn...well i'll be damned

[coarse estuary]

its very easy to export a save to a software like pkhex to view your ivs and evs

[reef path]

How?

Also, muk throwing hands

[coarse estuary]

take the .sav file from the emulator and put it in pkhex then go to party then right click and click show then go to stats

[reef path]

Ooooh

Sounds easy enough

[coarse estuary]

yeah pkhex is a very easy tool to use once you get the hang of it. i usually use it to evolve my trade evo mons and to easily check my evs and ivs. i also sometimes use it to hack in rare candies for my nuzlockes.

also if i choose to have a trade mon on my team i usually go to pk hex and change its ot to match mine just so it doesnt get the boosted exp since i dont like when a mon is so over leveled compaired to other mons on my team

[reef path]

It works for trade evos?

[reef path]

Pov: the steelix You get for a luvdisc in x and y

[coarse estuary]

Yes. You just change the mons species

[reef path]

Uh-, so, via an external device i just, type the species i want? It has to have some parameters to work, right?

[vague haven]

Time to play pokemon lazurus

[coarse estuary]

No just click the species in the Mons info then save the mon

[reef path]

Okay-, well i'll have to actually download the program first if i want to understand half what youre saying

[coarse estuary]

Lol fair.

[mild dirge]

I hope when the new season in champions drops they nerf rock slide

You can win entire games after playing like trash by getting a bunch of flinches in a row

I would know I do all the time

[coarse estuary]

I highly doubt they will change anything about the moves.

[mild dirge]

A man (and basically every other competitive player) can dream

[coarse estuary]

That's like saying Pikachu shouldn't be an electric type anymore

[sweet crypt]

Protect's PP was heavily nerfed, claw moves are now boosted by Sharpness, Salt Cure had its chip halved, Mountain Gale's BP was increased to 120, First Impression's BP was increased to 100 etc

This isn't all of them

These are just a few I remembered

So yes, they are changing things about moves

In fact, here's an extremely notable one for this topic specifically

Iron Head's flinch rate was reduced from 30% to 20%

[coarse estuary]

That's fair but I doubt they will change a move because competitive players complain

[sweet crypt]

They did that for Dark Void

And honestly probably Salt Cure too

Though it's strange, Garganacl is definitely more of a Singles thing

And Gamefreak has mostly abandoned Singles balancing

They also heavily nerfed Unseen Fist because of complaints

[coarse estuary]

Idk I just don't understand why they would fix things for a mode most people don't play. It would be like the FDA putting laws on peanuts because 1 person is allergic.

[sweet crypt]

Champions' entire appeal is that it's entirely for competitive

And since it'll be receiving constant updates, it'd be the perfect opportunity to balance stuff

Especially since I highly doubt most of these changes will carry over to the mainline games

[coarse estuary]

I would hope not. I'd hate for the competitive scene to dictate how the mainline games work

[sweet crypt]

I hope that the Paralysis and Sleep nerfs carry over though, fuck that stupid-ass RNG bullshit

I don't hope the Freeze nerfs carry over because I hope Freeze gets replaced entirely by Frostbite that shit is completely unsalvageable

[coarse estuary]

One thing I do hope changes is accuracy actually means how often the move hits and not misses. I don't love my 85 accuracy move missing 85 percent of the time

[supple basalt]

That's technically just RNG lol I don't think that'll ever change

If it's not 100% accurate it's 50% accurate is a very true saying

[coarse estuary]

Oh ik that. Rng is the same reason I hit my self every time in confusion until I either die or snap out

[coarse viper]

Lets goo Shiny Magikarp in Arceus

Now I gotta find an alpha one so is usable in my run xD

[full crow]

Hey guys

Does anybody know what this game is? I found it as a tik tok ad as "pokemon pixel" but I know that's not it (tag me if you know)

I can send you the full animation

[coarse estuary]

Looks like pokemon anil a game by a very horrible person

[full crow]

How come horrible?

[coarse estuary]

They are racist and homophobic and in their games If you pick the dark skin color you start with 0 money also one of their games has a nsfw fan art section but that isnt addressed anywhere so you wouldn't know it was in there until already having had found it

[full crow]

OH

Jesus Christ

[coarse estuary]

Mmhmm. They even tried to say they were sorry about the skin money thing only after being called out about it

[full crow]

It's a similar thing like in the TADC fandom rn

[coarse estuary]

Idk what tadc is

[full crow]

A show the amazing digital circus

[coarse estuary]

Ah

[full crow]

The VAs were called out for a thing from 7years ago where they were laughing on a similar word that sounded like the n word

[coarse estuary]

Ok

[full crow]

Do you know any pokemon pixalated games that are beginner friendly? <:D

[coarse estuary]

Depends on what you mean by beginner friendly and if you want a rom hack or fan game or official game

[full crow]

Fan game <:D

[full crow]

Where the fights aren't too complicated

[coarse estuary]

I'd guess something like insurgence or xenoverse but idk what you consider complicated

[supple basalt]

If you want something that doesn't lean too much into competitive, This Gym of Mine is an okay one.

Insurgence isn't too bad. By the time it gets competitive you already have a grasp on how it works

But if you use its built in randomizer the NPCs have no fucking clue what they're supposed to be using and it's trivial 😂

[coarse viper]

Updated myself to the latest gen xD

[full crow]

how do I install it

[coarse estuary]

That's a question for their discord

[supple basalt]

They have their own discord so yeah they're the better place

[coarse viper]

Hi Vix!

[supple basalt]

[coarse viper]

How are you?

[supple basalt]

Not bad. You?

[coarse viper]

Good
Prepping the Switch 2

Lil sister wanted to play Tomaiachi life on the Switch we had (or whatever the name is)
So I needed one of my own xD (we live in different cities)
So i got the 2

[oak hazel]

I in fact did not expect a Greek mythology reference lol

[sturdy sparrow]

Looking for more technical stuff for my champions team
Swap out infernape thunder punch for stealth rocks?

[small dirge]

my living dex is unintentionally becoming a living shiny dex

[reef path]

We have:
Solid snake
The dawg
The rapper
The wall
Skyzard
And the biggest bird

[tight granite]

Staraptor is not that big compared to other birds

[reef path]

yeah, but he was moving DIFERENT during the final battle with the evil team

he two shoted a yveltal, so he got the title of the biggest bird

[reef path]

oh god, i didnt know that-

[coarse estuary]

yeah i found out while playing z and i decided to beat the run but then never touch another game by them

[reef path]

Damn, and i really wanted to play añil, but anyway, thats why unbound>añil

[tight granite]

having finished rtgame play legends arceus, makes me wonder if we will ever see the Legend Plate again

[coarse estuary]

i swear games with increased shiny ods never seem to make it faster for me to find shiny pokemon this is so dumb

[tight granite]

za gave me enough that i stopped caring

its not fun finding them if they arent rare

Got a shiny phantumb just trying to get the Trevenant

[reef path]

Sometimes rng's a bih

[coarse estuary]

yeah just sucks because im doing a shiny locke of a hack and i dont really wanna go into gym 1 with only my starter

[reef path]

Valid opinion, although i think the reason it's easier its because, as of right now, You see the pokemon on the overworld, and that gives the shiny ods somewhat of a boost thanks to there being more "encounters"

[reef path]

Damn, well, i would suggest seeing if there's any way to cheese the shiny ods for a certain pokemon that it's avaliable

[coarse estuary]

thats not how that works.

[reef path]

Then idk what to do

[cloud lark]

Probably not. That sucker would break competitive over its knee, so it's most definitely not getting into Champions, so it would probably have to be in another game where Arceus is a central figure again. Which I don't see happening for a long while.

[coarse viper]

Radical red Ghost only beaten
This...was rough

[reef path]

Sorry for asking but, what does the legend plate do again?

[tight granite]

seeing it again doesnt mean "Will be in Champions"

[cloud lark]

Changes Arceus's type to whatever would be the best type to deal with the current opponents

[reef path]

I can hear the screams of the damned through this picture

[reef path]

Damn

[tight granite]

changes types anytime so Arceus will always be super effective against an opponent

[reef path]

That would make arceus+judgement super op

[coarse viper]

Ah protean on steroids

[reef path]

On super steroids

[tight granite]

Yeah, such power should be reserved to like a god or something

[reef path]

Yeah, like bidoof/jk

[coarse viper]

Yeah..
My screams
Every single elite 4 and the champ have legends and mythicals
My ghost legends are all post game

[cloud lark]

Not just offensive, either. If there's multiple types it can turn into to be Super Effective, it turns to the type that would be best defensively as well

[reef path]

How many ghost legends are?

[reef path]

👀

[coarse viper]

3
Giratina
Marshadow
Horse

[reef path]

Lunala isnt in the Game?

[coarse viper]

4

XD

[reef path]

XD

Damn dude forgot neby

[coarse viper]

Thats also post game

[tight granite]

Legends Plate could be cool again, either in a Museum at some point or a postgame item. No reason it cant be in again and would be a fun idea. (Not sure why people think competetive...since you know they can just not allow that item to be useable then)

[reef path]

How many legendaries are before the post game?

[coarse viper]

Err like 10 ish with some mythicals that roam around

If you do a dark type run you have options..is what Imma say xD

[reef path]

I think it would be cool to see on a Game centered around sillvaly, and the objective is to try to replicate the legend plate, or something like that, my dawg needs more love from game freak

[reef path]

....how many?

[coarse viper]

Outside of the fish (because i dont remember seeing it) all of Paldea mythicals are available

[tight granite]

a Legends Alola would be nice..tho Sylvally seems a weird focus since i think for its origins it got enough attention in the games already..not much you can do with it unless it gains a more finsihed form in it

[reef path]

Damn

[cloud lark]

I did have a concept for a Mega Silvally with an ability that is basically just unnerfed Protean but also gives moves the same boost that the "-ate" series of abilities would give

Named RKS RGN or something like that

[coarse viper]

Not to mention the dynamax raids who can give you legendaries (especially the one in the victory road)

But guess what Ghosts ain't there

[reef path]

Yeah, makes sense, it would also be fun to see the REAL true form of necrozma, since the ultra necrozma is just a amped form

[reef path]

Shi-

[reef path]

Would it have a special interaction with multi-atack? Like it changes the type of multi-atack every time sillvaly changes types

[cloud lark]

Haven't even thought of that. Would probably just make it typeless or something. Don't want it to be too crazy

[reef path]

So, stellar type but without being super efective to tera types

Team made of only rock or ground types

[reef path]

In the Game and in the manga is stated that the ultra necrozma form is a stronger form of the original necrozma

I would like to see both how strong

And how it's supossed to look

Because the pieces on normal necrozma do form a dragón head with a neck, but where's the rest of the body

[tight granite]

cant really find anything that says this. atleast bulbapedia refers to it regaining his original form for a while

[tight granite]

also this..which is said to be from the concept art..tho i have found no real source outside the poster saying it

[tight granite]

i guess this one depends how necrozma already looked at the time..cause after it was robbed of its light. the black version is its true form now

[reef path]

Yeah, that is what it is, but it would be cool to see how the original necrozma looked, like with the original dragon

[tight granite]

i mean i would say that ultra necrozma is that..still

it was robbed of its light, not its bodyparts

[cloud lark]

Besides all that, Necrozma will lorewise probably never return to its true form because Z-crystals are explicitly fragments of its original body. So unless they wanna dumpster Z-moves as Alola's gimmick if they revisit it, probably not happening.

[reef path]

Makes sense

[reef path]

It does Say that it ditches some of it body parts for the transformation due to the impurities that have formed over time

[tight granite]

ye

[reef path]

Or a game based on the ultra recon squad, before they jumped the hell out of necrozma and broke him apart

[tight granite]

this just means the blacked one had to add to itself not the other way

[cloud lark]

I want a game set in Ultra Space with all sorts of new UBs so bad. The idea of doing away with the design tropes of classic Pokémon and just going nuts like they did with the UBs was so cool and I hope they do it again

[tight granite]

Legends Looker

[reef path]

Where they let the character designers actually go nuts, thats something i like of eternatus, it's an alien, it's not supossed to look like anything on the world

[reef path]

Run that by me another time?

[tight granite]

well if it had to remove impurities. it only means the unfinished form had added to its mass, it didnt lose any

[reef path]

Or, that some of it's body parts got so damaged it couldnt use them anymore on his ultra form

Both could be true

[tight granite]

not really but i also wouldnt be mad about a different form either

[reef path]

Yeah, like one where (somehow) it takes back all of the z crystals that originated from itself, where it goes back to a form, not as strong, but more stable than ultra necrozma

[cloud lark]

If the UBs were allowed to have different abilities, you think Nihilego would get Poison Puppeteer? Cause that ability seems perfect for it lorewise

[reef path]

What does poison puppeteer does again?

[cloud lark]

Poisoned Pokémon also get confused

[tight granite]

this works. This was Necrozma before it needed either Lunala or Solgaleo meaning this was before it needed to consume power. However that one kept its blackended Body and wasnt entirely light. so having the first image be its true form means the fully light one can both be its more powerful form and would work for the manga not being the original blinding one due to turning its power even higher

[reef path]

Idk, does sound like something nihilego would do

[reef path]

Also, since its a legends Game, it would be a good moment to finally explain HOW did the ultra recon squad even manage to break necrozma apart

Like

The dude is a GOD of light

HOW DO YOU JUMP HIM SO BAD HE TURNS BLACK

[tropic hinge]

I mean, we even have precedent for UB starters with poipole.

[tight granite]

they didnt?

[tight granite]

cough

they just stole its light to power their stuff

[reef path]

In the Game they said that they tried to use/steal the light from necrozma, wich ended up breaking him apart

[reef path]

Let me rephrase, how did they manage to steal the light/power from a god?

[tight granite]

caught him napping

doi

[reef path]

Man, poor guy couldnt even nap in peace

[tight granite]

the legendary mythical battle royal animation is still a fun one. ending with a tie between arceus and necrozma

[reef path]

Now that i think about it, how does necrozma work on the legendary ranking, as in role

[reef path]

Pov You about to jump a god

[tight granite]

well that battle was researched and they put him fighting against arceus making either one win

so probably very high

Eternatus wasnt yet there, so it might change some stuff but who knows

stats arent very much lore

[reef path]

I always thought that he was like, a fourth dragon or something, since there's space/ time, darkness (giratina) and necrozma(light)

But i could be wrong

[tropic hinge]

Isn't necrozma on a similar scale in whatever world it comes from? Basically being the top of the pecking order in its reality?

[reef path]

Oh yeah, it does come from another dimension

....isnt arceus like, the GOD on the Pokémon multiverse?

[tight granite]

was named Ultra Beast "Black" in the anime

[tropic hinge]

Is it the multiverse, or just the main dimension?

[reef path]

Always thought it was a funny name for THE ultra beast

[reef path]

I think somewhere it said that there's múltiple arceus avatars through diferent dimensions, and that the real arceus sits above that

Like a explanation on why we can catch god

[tight granite]

yeah in Legends Arceus you never see it

even when you receive it, its just a part of itself made for you to raise

[tropic hinge]

I think it's meant to be the version we catch is like one of its countless hands or something? That's the version I remember.

[reef path]

Man, Pokémon lore is confusing

[tight granite]

thats theory. in the game its just referred to as a part of itself it made for you

[tropic hinge]

Okay, thanks for clarifying.

[reef path]

I think in a event scene it shows arceus doing it's thing with a bunch of unown around him, i thought the unown where his 1000 hands

[tropic hinge]

And to think, as of SV we've added, maybe, time travel to the mess.

[reef path]

Talking about that, i think that the paradox legendary beast are just pokemon blessed by ho-oh on the far past

And that ho-oh is just not creative enough to change their faces

[tight granite]

i do like that theory, Unown can shape the Universe and in the Movie. Unown where living in a space between the Universe and the Place where Pakia and Dialga threw Hands

[reef path]

The poorly paid workers of god

[tight granite]

Celebi already could time travel and that was before the god of time existed

[reef path]

Dialga having a headache every time someone time travels is a fun thought for me

[tropic hinge]

Possibly. I go off of the idea that none of the paradox mon came from past or future and that it's all just made up from people's interpretations, since all the designs are claimed to be from a magazine/comic/book. But, I can't elaborate more as I have to take off.

[reef path]

It is a posibility

[tight granite]

they def arent from our past or future