other-pokemon-games

[sand lion]

rapid spin?

[marsh tulip]

It's literally one of the only good special flying moves

[sweet crypt]

Wrong

There's 0 good non-signature special flying moves

[sand lion]

hurricane

[sweet crypt]

50 BP

[marsh tulip]

Mid for that power, it should be like 85% acc MINIMUM

[sweet crypt]

And also it isn't used for damage

[marsh tulip]

not 70

[sweet crypt]

It's used for utility

And Air Slash should have like

Idek

100% isn't enough

[marsh tulip]

Why does it actually matter that much given like

it basically is 100% accurate

you're pretty much never missing 2 in a row

[sand lion]

basically doesn't equal always

[onyx isle]

I did once

[marsh tulip]

Only time it's really an issue is when like, you get yo accuracy lowered

[sand lion]

when will that happen

[marsh tulip]

How many times have you EVER

That's the point

It's like maybe 3 times in a life time

It's why I like running hustle on stuff sometimes

[sand lion]

hustle on what

[delicate hollow]

Oh WHAT pokemon champions is out today? TODAY???
thought it came out yesterday

[onyx isle]

U dont play enough

[marsh tulip]

I mean in play throughs obv

[delicate hollow]

Tell me all the new abilities for legends za mega forms

Please? I don't mind spoilers

[marsh tulip]

In competitive I'm always running the hidden or second ability if possible

[marsh tulip]

I meant in play throughs

[onyx isle]

Start off strong with trace meowstic

[west gale]

@delicate hollow ^

[onyx isle]

Magic bounce clef

[marsh tulip]

The only use for mold breaker is tera-elec shedninja with air balloon

Like that's it

and even then you just need sand storm or rocks

[onyx isle]

Pretty sure that thing is banned

[sand lion]

matchup fish of doom and despair

[sturdy sparrow]

Planning Pokemon sword team
Only want to use Galar mons and focusing on champion tournament
Picked rillaboom coalossal Toxtricity
Frosmoth and galar rapidash idk suggestions?

[sand lion]

this for champions?

[languid girder]

Nah, the Champion Tournament at the end of SwSh, I think.

[sturdy sparrow]

Yes

[sand lion]

oh

do what you like that game's easy

[tawny crane]

OMG it's the perfect Spinda, I love him

[west gale]

Corviknight

[languid girder]

And to continue the list:

Clefable: Magic Bounce
Victreebel: Innards Out (Makes sense lore-wise. Mega Victreebel is basically a giant acid water-balloon)
Starmie: Pure Power (on a 100 Atk stat, so its best physical Psychic attack is looking like Zen Headbutt)
Dragonite: Multiscale
Meganium: Mega Sol (All of its moves are used as if they were in Harsh Sunlight)
Feraligatr: Dragonize (All Normal Moves Feraligatr uses become Dragon-Type)
Skarmory: Stalwart (Ignores effects that draw in attacks, so stuff like Lightning Rod, Rage Powder, Follow Me, those are useless. It's also on Duraludon and Archaludon)
Chimecho: Levitate
Froslass: Snow Warning
Emboar: Mold Breaker
Excadrill: Piercing Drill (Contact moves hit through Reflect and Light Screen, but damage is reduced to 1/4 in those instances. Other effects from the protective moves still trigger)
Chandelure: Infiltrator
Golurk: Unseen Fist
Chesnaught: Bulletproof
Delphox: Levitate
Greninja: Protean
Floette: Fairy Aura
Meowstic: Trace
Hawlucha: No Guard
Crabominable: Iron Fist
Drampa: Berserk
Scovillain: Spicy Spray (Burns the target when Scovillain takes damage)
Glimmora: Adaptability.

We've still got some to get because not all Megas are in the game right now.

[sand lion]

rip skarm and drampa

[languid girder]

The ability Stalwart isn't bad on paper, it's just really underutilized on Mega Skarmory and is super situational at the best of times.

No water or electric moves, so Storm Drain and Lightning Rod are non-factors, so Rage Powder, Follow Me and Ally Switch are the extent of what Mega Skarm deals with.

To my knowledge, most Archaludons run Stamina or the occasional Sturdy for consistency.

[upbeat notch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/798591389717233676/1293263268449747046/singlesplayer.gif

[sand lion]

imagine being called a "playthrough mon"

very disrespectful

[vague haven]

I've just thought about it but isn't knock off really good in pokerouge

[coarse viper]

Eh yes and no you are better off one shotting your opponent than slowly weakening them up

That applies double to Gmax Eternatus

Ppff okay? Most competitive items are not in Champions

Interesting choice

[sweet crypt]

Doesnt exist

Both Tera and Shed

[sweet crypt]

Knock Off is really good period

You basically just have 97.5 BP really

In Pokerogue

In mainline, well

Tbf

It's mostly the same

Unless your opponent is a Mega, itemless(???) or resistant to Dark

Or if you're a weak fuck which in that case you're only using it for item removal anyways

Which is still valid

Because item removal is amazing

[cloud lark]

I guess there's Unburden sets as far as the itemless point goes, but there's a grand total of one Pokémon that has it that's good, but A: Knock Off isn't the best against it anyway and B: it's banned

[sweet crypt]

Ah yes, the Unburden Pokemon Hawlucha and Sneasler

I'm sure Knock Off works wonders against them

[cloud lark]

Speaking on Hawlucha, I'm starting to think No Guard isn't even that good on its Mega. Sure, it has HJK, but it's only marginally stronger than CC and still comes with the risk of Ghosts switching in.

I guess it makes Stone Edge good coverage, but that kinda feels like the extent of things to talk about on it

Like, I don't really think not getting the defense debuff of CC is worth the risk of losing half your HP because Ghosts exist

[mighty robin]

blah blah blah, Pokemon SV has Lokix, based on Kamen Rider, something that I enjoy

should I buy Pokemon Scarlet solely based on that fact?

[cloud lark]

SV as games are... fine. Not the best, but they're fine.

The Pokémon added are overall pretty solid too. You mentioned Lokix, and I myself am probably Glimmora's most dedicated soldier

[sweet crypt]

Considering I'm pretty sure I have Glimmora in the 6th place spot on my tierlist, you may want to reassess that thought

[cloud lark]

It's my third favorite. I have you beaten by three placements.

[sweet crypt]

Shit

You win

[noble zealot]

Yes. You will not regret it.

[coarse viper]

If i am to buy other scarlet or violet i will definitely buy Violet...cuz robots are cooler xD

[sweet crypt]

I bought Violet for the simple reason that I preferred Miraidon and Ceruledge

And I think overall I feel like the Paradoxes are pretty even so I'd say I don't regret it

[noble zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/flutter-mane-pokemon-gif-13486701436511058674

[mighty robin]

this is just the reason why I’d buy Scarlet

[sweet crypt]

Never said competitively, did I?

[noble zealot]

I was looking for that gif before you posted the second part

[sweet crypt]

I still didn't say competitively in the first part

[noble zealot]

It wasn't in response

[mighty robin]

but there’s also the fact that I haven’t really played the switch in a while

[sweet crypt]

Ah ok

[mighty robin]

might have to make sure it’s charged

[vague haven]

It is but like late game pokerouge you're getting insane milage out of it

Especially if you get lucky during the eternatus fight at the end

[coarse viper]

May Lunala haunt this mdfk

I hate him

[noble zealot]

But it's so cute

https://tenor.com/view/shauntal-iono-pokemon-shauntal-pokemon-iono-pokemon-gif-11245447998027575988

[coarse viper]

I will say it can die in a ditch but its a Ghost type

[spare hare]

im trying to cook champions forecast, my initial idea is a defensive aproach that always have the right type depending on the weather matchup.

but bruh is soo washed i dont know what to do other than give up.

[sweet crypt]

You're speaking to my soul rn

Also

Weather Ball on Mega Meganium has the straight 150 BP

100 from the effects of Sun, and *1.5 from Sun boost on Fire moves

This includes being in Rain, where it retains the Fire type

[hot dust]

i have a mono dark team yall think this is good comp? i have meowscarada go in first put down toxic spikes and knock off, then i use uturn to bring in incineroar, hit a few sword dances, darkest lariat with a baton pass to meowscarada after if he aint dead to finish off with kingambit sweep

[spare hare]

thanks for saying i wast sure if it would get the fire type boost

[sleek zephyr]

Super Mariomon - 5th badge earned after an easier than expected fight. This fish is naughty!

[gritty tulip]

Hello anyone here have played pokemon legends ZA?

[coarse viper]

Not yet I didnt

[vague haven]

[mighty robin]

so when I wanted to get an alpha pachirisu, I looked up a guide

you had to break a rock to get into the area, blah blah blah

[coarse viper]

I found it just wandering in the second Area xD

[vague haven]

Hell yeah

[mighty robin]

but I didn’t find the rock, and instead jumped up the side of the hill to get into the area

so ig that’s sorta “cheating”

[vague haven]

What's your plan for an endgame team

[supple basalt]

Damn I don't have any screenshots with SYlveon

[gritty tulip]

Have finished it? What do you think about the game?

[coarse viper]

Rapidash/Gardevoir aand Shiny Hisuian Liligant

[coarse viper]

For now

[supple basalt]

I wish I could find a shiny petilil

[coarse viper]

Yeah i will do the researches to perfection to increase the odds first

[supple basalt]

When the noble is tiny in comparison

[coarse viper]

Should quicken things up a bit

[vague haven]

I finished it and the dlc

It's so much fun

[coarse viper]

Thats a big santa

[gritty tulip]

Really?

[coarse viper]

Wtf auto correct?

[mighty robin]

I don’t remember when I took this picture I’m reposting

[supple basalt]

Ikr

[gritty tulip]

Santander? Hahaha

[supple basalt]

That's what Wyrdeer's name should have been

[coarse viper]

I dont even know wtf that word means

[vague haven]

The bosses are fun as hell plus the story had me crying at the end

[gritty tulip]

Is a Spanish city

[coarse viper]

Ah

[gritty tulip]

In the north of spain

[coarse viper]

Alright so there are 2 answers

[supple basalt]

Lit first thing that popped up when I googled the word LOL

[mighty robin]

I had a level 72 joltik in Sword

[supple basalt]

It's probably both

[vague haven]

Where's the rest of it?

[gritty tulip]

The bank is the bank of that city

[vague haven]

Or is it just those 3

[coarse viper]

Mate I did not look up the entire Hisuian Dex xD

I just make it as it goes

[vague haven]

Fair enough I just figured I'd ask

[supple basalt]

I still find it stupid that ZA left out all the QOL that PLA brought us

[vague haven]

I'm still upset that they removed frostbite as a status

[gritty tulip]

Really? I was thinking about taking it, but I don't like the prices very much, thank you!

[coarse viper]

Oh hi Linking Cord where are you??

[supple basalt]

SAME

It had so much potential to be the special attacking burn

[supple basalt]

Can you at least find them wild like you can in S/V and PLA

[vague haven]

In my opinion it's significantly better than freeze

[supple basalt]

Pretty sure you could find some trade evos wild in Sw/Sh too

[coarse viper]

Pff nah

[vague haven]

Yeah you can find trade evos in the wild kinda

[supple basalt]

Kinda

[coarse viper]

Ngl I was surprised when. I saw Alpha Alakazam my first reaction was "Wait thats allowed?"

[supple basalt]

Thank goodness for Pokemon Home

[supple basalt]

Right? XD

[vague haven]

It's a random chance in area 20 for some of them

[supple basalt]

I was shocked and delighted to discover the Linking Cable

[gritty tulip]

@vague haven you're a ado fan?

[supple basalt]

Gotcha

[vague haven]

Yes

[supple basalt]

I'll probably buy the game when I have the money to

Or when I get money for christmas

[gritty tulip]

Me to, do you have goes to any concert?

[coarse viper]

Plus the recovery of items is such a better way to be interactive with the community

[supple basalt]

Anyone else wish you could legit hear Piers and Ryme sing?

[vague haven]

Nope I haven't yet but I want to

[coarse viper]

Voice Acting in my Pokemon? Naah

[vague haven]

That's the main advantage digimon has over pokemon voice acting

[gritty tulip]

I have goes to 1 last year and it was incredible 100% recommended

[supple basalt]

Piers is legit one of my favs in Sw/Sh because he has the most impressive RBF I've seen in Pokemon. Even better than Larry's

Allister's also adorable

[vague haven]

Allister looked puntable in the nicest way possible

[cloud lark]

Meanwhile, in Pokémon B2W2:
https://youtu.be/R2vUEgX1QeI?si

[supple basalt]

I forgot she was a performer

[coarse viper]

Allister is the buff air headed cinnamon roll right? Or yall ain't talking about ZA?

[vague haven]

He's the ghost gym leader in pokemon shield

[supple basalt]

He is a cinnamon roll

Just not buff

XD

[gritty tulip]

By the way @vague haven do you can sell me your AZ floette? I need one for Pokémon champions and I don't know were I can get it

[vague haven]

But fr tho he uses dusknoir there for he's cool to me

[coarse viper]

Ooh thats Sword and Shield

Mb mb

[vague haven]

Sorry dude I don't really feel like giving that away

[supple basalt]

I want the trainer card feature from Sw/Sh back

[vague haven]

Fr

[gritty tulip]

Ok, chill

Thank you

[coarse viper]

Didn't play the games but I watched gameplay so I semi know the chars..gotta play the games to remember them tho

[vague haven]

Peak

[supple basalt]

I thought I had a different Karma card

[vague haven]

But fr tho allister was probably my favorite gym leader in sword and shield

[supple basalt]

There it is

[vague haven]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-10341555270454130792

[supple basalt]

I loved him so much. He should have been in both games

[coarse viper]

Ah Karma

[supple basalt]

Because Bea

[coarse viper]

Fairly fitting for him yeah

[supple basalt]

I mean she's alright

[vague haven]

Tbh ghost is a cooler type than fighting

[supple basalt]

100%

Also Allister has Gengar and Bea has Machamp

Gengar > Machamp

[vague haven]

Plus like I said he uses a dusknoir so I respect him a lot

[supple basalt]

Dusknoir is a fantastic mon

[vague haven]

Fr it's good in all the ways that matter on a playthrough team

[supple basalt]

I'm glad PMD Sky added a story of him and Grovyle into the game because it was a crime Time/Darkness didn't do anything after he was yeeted

[vague haven]

Pmd dusknoir was kinda hilarious

[supple basalt]

He was

Lol

[vague haven]

This image had me sold on the game

[supple basalt]

Lmao

[vague haven]

I know it's fan art but it's funny to me

Honestly dusknoir deserved a mega

[supple basalt]

Honestly I want to question the logic of him taking them in front of everyone instead of just being like "Let's walk down to the beach. I want to see it one last time"

[supple basalt]

He did

He just evolves into a spookier Guzzlord

[vague haven]

That would have been peak

[coarse viper]

Freaking Charizard again, imma-

[supple basalt]

Fr

[vague haven]

Have you seen mega golurks ability in that

[coarse viper]

I just opened the game xD

[vague haven]

May I share it

[coarse viper]

Pretty sure I read its Unseen Fist tho

[vague haven]

Yup

Mega golurk is probably gonna be a menace

[coarse viper]

Oh thank god I can skip the tutorial!

[vague haven]

The thing that would make the golurk fan in me explode would be if golurk somehow got banned to ubers

[coarse viper]

Alright Gamefreak you earn points for allowing me to take my fav mon for free

[vague haven]

Hell yeah

[coarse viper]

Oh thank god single battles I am not forced in double battles

[vague haven]

I mean tbf it's a competitive game so it makes sense for it to be both doubles and singles

[dull crow]

well unseen fist is a bigger threat in doubles

[vague haven]

True but still it would make the golurk fan in me genuinely explode so I'm hoping it at least becomes a dominant threat

[tardy anchor]

Hi I just downloaded Pokemon Vanguard but when am extracting its zip file, its showing no archive found, what do I do?

[coarse viper]

The rewards for winning rank feel low other than that so far so good

[dull crow]

ask if a fan game or pokemon vanguard serve ror soemthing we dont offer support for other games

[sweet crypt]

I, uh

Don't think it's supposed to give a .zip file

[vague haven]

Zip bomb time

[coarse viper]

Oh dear the Recruitment is a Gacha...

Fudgeeee welp gambling time

[vague haven]

GAMBLING

[coarse viper]

Belly drum aqua jet Azumarill is so funny

For me not everyone else

Ooo Trailblaze Azumaril

[coarse viper]

Alright thats enough Champions for today...ngl I am vibing with this

[queen pecan]

yup, i am indeed not good at competetive pokemon, is what i learnt in champs. who coulda thought

also mortuary i am here feeling exactly the same 😛
fav match still the one i won only cause i spammed arcanine with protect with leftovers and somehow outlived their arcanine/water dude

[tight granite]

appearntly champions also doesnt work like competitive should

atleast thats all the stuff i seen of people complaining

[small dirge]

My highschool principals are ops bro they didn't let me bring my 2ds to school

[tight granite]

am i back in 2014

[vague haven]

God I wish I was

[brisk hedge]

Hey guys, did you hear that they’re remaking Hoenn

[mighty robin]

they are?

[brisk hedge]

Yeah. I can’t wait to see what they do with the battle frontier

[mighty robin]

do we got any other info?

[brisk hedge]

All the Hoenn starters are getting megas and Groundon and Kyogre are getting something called primal reversions

[mighty robin]

this is gonna be peak when it comes out

[brisk hedge]

I hope we can use all of the megas they’re going to introduce in ORAS in Pokémon Z when that eventually comes out

[mighty robin]

i'm sure that we will

it'll be a wasted opportunity to have a gimmick exist only in one game

[cinder iron]

Even if Megas only initially appear in this generation, I'm sure Game Freak will revisit the idea down the line

We didn't have Contests in Gen 5 and XY but they seem to be making a comeback in ORAS

[brisk hedge]

There’s no way mega evolution isn’t going to be a permanent feature of Pokémon though. That’d be like if they made a Pokémon game without all of the Pokémon present

[cinder iron]

OOOOO WHAT IF THEY MADE A SEQUEL PLOT TO X AND Y? LIKE BLACK AND WHITE 2!

It would be nice seeing Emma fully get her happy ending

[mighty robin]

yeah

we need pokemon z and have zygarde be the box legendary

[cinder iron]

Maybe AZ and Eternal Floette will be more central to the plot too

[mighty robin]

i don't even think zygarde is even on the ZA box

[supple basalt]

I mean I'm 90% sure Arceus isn't on PLA Box

[mighty robin]

technically speaking, the word "arceus" is on the box

[supple basalt]

[mighty robin]

we could also have a SwSh remake in 3 years

if my math is right, gold/hg and ruby/omega ruby were like 10-12 years apart

[daring juniper]

I swear, even in the remakes Piers won't audibly sing and Team Yell won't yell.

[mighty robin]

the games would still be good

[cloud lark]

I still can't get over them giving Mega Meowstic goddamn Trace

Did they just forget they already had a Psychic Mega with Trace that outclassed it in every meaningful way

[supple basalt]

Wait they yeeted PRANKSTER and gave it TRACE?

What the fucking fuck

[cloud lark]

I think the idea was to split the difference between Male Meowstic playing support and Female Meowstic hitting things hard by giving the Mega an ability that could theoretically let it do both. But instead they just made it a worse version of an existing Mega

If they wanted Mega Meowstic to work both as offense and support, Psychic Surge was right there

"But it would have been broken with Expanding Force!"

Then nerf Expanding Force and don't have it essentially act as a power ceiling of how good Psychic types are allowed to be

[spring oar]

Yo anyone got an archaludon to trade in SV or PLZA

[tight granite]

..just catch a Duraludon and evolve it

or imma guess you never bought the dlc

[mighty robin]

i can't help ya

[twilit ridge]

i'm sorry but I just realized that slowbro has a mega evolution and slowking doesn't
I'm happy that the trade evolution didn't get it, but between the two, i think I would like slowking to have a mega evolution more. Between the two, he's already cooler and like how did they decide to give it to one and not the other? Why didn't they give one to both? Make one FOR both (thought that idea I don't like as much).

[brisk hedge]

Klevor also doesn’t have a mega despite the fact that Scizor does

[cloud lark]

Guess it went extinct before the Ultimate Weapon could go off

[brisk hedge]

So did Aerodactyl, yet it got a mega

And don’t even get me started on Mewtwo

[supple basalt]

Why does Mewtwo have two megas and Mew doesn't even have one

Btw did Xerneas and Yveltal get megas

[noble zealot]

And why did Lucario warrant another Mega?

[supple basalt]

ZA should have taken notes from ORAS

Give all the boxart legends of that region megas

[cloud lark]

Fan favorite/industry plant, plus it's connected to Mega Evolution lore

[supple basalt]

Not just Zygarde who didn't need one since it already had complete form

[noble zealot]

Hopefully Arceus joins in on the fun and gets a mega gaining 20 in every stat, thus once again becoming the highest-BST mon (of those obtainable legitimately)

||/j||

[twilit ridge]

Lowkey, I think a Porygon 2 or Porygon-Z mega would go hard

but also a ton of pokemon go without any content at all. Like I would LOVE a mega snorlox, but they already are A: a fan favorite, and B: have a gigantamax form. Kinda the reason i'm glad beedrill got a mega form

like tell me mega raticate, mega hitmonlee (or hitmonchan and hitmontop, but hitmonlee is my favorite), mega roserade, mega swalot, for the love of god mega flygon, mega magnezone, mega tropius, mega wobbuffet, etc, wouldn't go hard

[silver forge]

hmmm. Mega Shedinja

[noble zealot]

Its new ability will be Sturdy

[noble zealot]

Mega Roserade was one I desperately wanted in ZA

As for Snorlax, ROWE honestly had the right idea in turning the G-Max formes into Megas.

[tight granite]

so the mega is worse ?

[brisk hedge]

The mega is unkillable

Well, maybe status conditions and weather chip damage would work? Not sure since those don’t normally do enough damage to trigger sturdy

[tight granite]

gotcha

[mighty robin]

nah, it gets a new ability

it basically works like the affection boost, but it activates every single time

Mega Shedinja toughed out the attack so you wouldn’t feel sad! Mega Shedinja avoided the move in time with your shout! Mega Shedinja managed to expel the poison so you wouldn’t worry!

[brisk hedge]

Can’t prevent weather chip damage and leech seed

[mighty robin]

That’s also part of its ability

[violet flint]

shedinja has so much love in it ❤️

[vague haven]

It do look like miku

But apparently in lore it's like ultra instinct

[violet flint]

miku miku beam

[vague haven]

https://tenor.com/view/miku-miku-beam-hatsune-miku-miku-expo-magical-cure-love-shot-miku-gif-5893650045169741635

[cloud lark]

I feel bad for Hydreigon. Screwed over by Fairies after its debut, overall middling stat distribution, and skipped over for Megas in favor of getting a Paradox version that pretty much nobody cares about

[twilit ridge]

you know it's messed up when the pseudo is weak to bug types

[violet flint]

gamefreak giving a mega to baxcalibur before hydreigon

[twilit ridge]

we're getting mega mandibuzz before hydreigon ngl

[violet flint]

they're actually gonna make mega hydreigon but give it a mid design and dogshit ability 🤑

[supple basalt]

What is the new lucario's ability

I'm too lazy to look it up

[violet flint]

for some reason only regular mega lucario's in

[supple basalt]

I mean whatever it is it is not as great as Adaptability

[violet flint]

so we don't know yet

[supple basalt]

Oh

I bet it'll be shit

Because adaptability is amazing

[twilit ridge]

ngl my headcanon is that mega aerodactyl is the REAL aerodactyl and that the megastones for aerodactyl are just the extra part of the fossil, or that most resurrections of aerodactyl are unevolved chuds and megastones are adult aerodactyl fossils. 100% contradicts the lore that I don't know about BUUUUT justifies it kinda

[supple basalt]

Who pinged me

[cloud lark]

If I had to guess what Mega Lucario Z is getting, probably Mega Launcher cause it got all the pulse moves in ZA

[cloud lark]

That was me cause I answered a question of yours then saw someone else already did. My bad

[supple basalt]

Oh lol

[cloud lark]

But yeah I would be shocked if Zucario got a bad ability like Meowstic did considering it's a fan favorite that Gamefreak loves putting in the spotlight. They made it broken with its base Mega, they'd definitely do it again

[vague haven]

Tbf they have given multiple new megas godlike abilities so only time will tell

[supple basalt]

But like what's better than adaptability

Maybe they'll just give it that back

[noble zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/dagashi-kashi-hotaru-shidare-peace-sign-gif-16375184

[simple quartz]

https://fxbsky.app/profile/mecha-bunny.bsky.social/post/3miyhuu3dmk23

Haley's Head Mechanic 🏳️‍⚧️ (@mecha-bunny.bsky.social)

FYI transgender is often abbreviated as "tora" in Japanese.
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︀︀Tora also means tiger, and tigers are sometimes used as a symbol of the trans community in Japan.

Quoting Action Shakespeare 🐙🤤 (@thatgalinthehat.bsky.social)
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trans colors, name has tora in both english and japanese. yup shes one of the girls alright

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FxBluesky · Apr 8, 2026, 2:10 PM

A shame that she's stuck in Champions lol

[vague haven]

Maybe a variant of unseen fist to make it suck to play against in doubles

[simple quartz]

Now let's be a little fair

As annoying as Lucario's popularity is

It is an actual genuine popularity status that it gains the moment it existed

The real industry plant Pokemon is the Zoroark line but I bet most of you all forgot about it lol

[vague haven]

Then again we've already gotten another new unseen fist variant so maybe not

[supple basalt]

Please no just give it unseen fist. Abilities that are carbon copies of other abilities are just lazy. Libero and Protean are the EXACT SAME THING

There is no difference other than Libero being specific to Cinderace

There are like 3 discount Magic Bounces (They resist, not bounce back)

[noble zealot]

Special mention to Vital Spirit and Insomnia, both of which are possessed by Delibird

[vague haven]

I was thinking a special attack version not a carbon copy

[supple basalt]

Honestly a lot of abilities need special version. How about Intimidate for special moves

Huge Power but for special

[vague haven]

Or just frostbite being back

[supple basalt]

Oh that'd be kinda busted if Zucario got that XD

The possibility of special huge power I mean

[noble zealot]

Would also be nice if items were made like that, too

[supple basalt]

PLEASE

[noble zealot]

physical Assault Vest

[supple basalt]

Fr

[cloud lark]

Zoroark line got some genuine popularity with the Hisui version. The absolute industry plant is Zeroaura

[simple quartz]

At launch it was definitely an industry plant tho

[supple basalt]

Can't believe normal Zoroark didn't get a mega. Regional variants never get megas but

[vague haven]

Fr tho legends Arceus nailed statuses

[simple quartz]

Same case as Zeraora really

[supple basalt]

I think normal Zoroark shoulda gotten one

[supple basalt]

Frostbite had so much potential to be the special burn

[violet flint]

gamefreak why

[vague haven]

Drowsy was interesting

[vague haven]

Don't worry mega golurk got your back

[cloud lark]

I think they learned their lesson from the menace that was Mega Gengar

[supple basalt]

That's not an excuse they made Mega Zygarde

[cloud lark]

Besides let's not pretend Infiltrator with that SpA is a bad thing

[violet flint]

shadow tag chandelure will never be real 😔

[violet flint]

mega golurk is so goated

[vague haven]

In both designs and ability

Tbf tho I'm a girl biased here because golurk is my favorite pokemon

It's a good favorite but still

[noble zealot]

What we need more than any potential new mega is a Shuckle evolution with 40 points taken out of both defenses and allocated into HP.
Also, it's Bug/Steel with Well-Baked Body and access to Body Press and Shore Up.

[violet flint]

mega golurk's one of my top favorite megas now

i'm really disappointed about chandelure tho because it's my second fav pokemon

[vague haven]

Nah reverse shuckle

All offense no defense

[noble zealot]

For extra bonus points, make it Ice/Rock with No Guard

[violet flint]

At least my dad works at gamefreak and he told me mega falinks is getting as one

[vague haven]

Call it knuckle

[vague haven]

Better idea have it set up trick room when it enters

[noble zealot]

YES

[vague haven]

I'm honestly surprised we don't have a Mon that does that already

[cloud lark]

I'm at least happy over Mega Froslass. She got the absolute best ability she could have hoped for

[violet flint]

mega malamar fr

[vague haven]

Fr

[vague haven]

It would be funny if it inverted type matchups

[simple quartz]

I am still somewhat perturbed that Mega Starmie does in fact have Huge Power

I think I'm just perturbed in general that Mega Starmie looks like that and is now a phys attacker

I'm so happy for M-Meganium and Mega Feraligatr though good fucking god they're so powerful

[vague haven]

Effectively 280 base physical attack

[violet flint]

like that guy in xy

[vague haven]

Yeah inverse battles

[violet flint]

it has 100 attack

140 was just for the lack of abilities in za

[simple quartz]

Yeah its genuinely nuts

I can't handle the star with legs being a phys menace that's not what you were for a long time!!!

[vague haven]

Oh it's in za that it has 140

[simple quartz]

200 base attack is still pretty insane

I missed the discussion that just happened because of the industry plant tangent but like

[vague haven]

I don't think we've had a Mon that's hit that before

[simple quartz]

I think its fine that Mega Golurk gets Unseen Fist

Iirc its not even like he has the moves that makes Unseen Fist nasty

[vague haven]

I feel like it's a logical step up from iron fist

Now if it was a combination of the 2 tho

[simple quartz]

It just turns it into an unstoppable aggro machine

[violet flint]

Mega mawile and medicham line were given 40 extra attack in za due to the lack of abilities, since mega starmie went over 100 extra stats and had 140 attack it was kinda alr known it was getting huge power

[simple quartz]

But also its still slow as hell so

[vague haven]

The humble trick room

[cloud lark]

Mega Zygarde does have balancing factors TBF. It doesn't get the opportunity to Mega Evolve straight away for starters, leaving it more vulnerable on the first turn

[simple quartz]

And I'm glad Trick Room fellas got another buster in the team

Don't we all

[vague haven]

And given it's 4x weakness to ice with mega frosslass being pretty prominent it ain't gonna live long

[simple quartz]

Mega Scovillain basically being a guaranteed burn is kinda awesome but man it sure sucks that Scovillain is stuck being Scovillain and nothing else past that

[vague haven]

But fr as if lately I think my favorite competitive pokemon is ogerpon

[simple quartz]

RIP Magician tbh it truly was so outclassed when compared to Protean and Bulletproof

[cloud lark]

It's ability sounds cool but I can't see myself giving up the Mega opportunity cost on it and its mid stats when Pokémon like Mega Sableye can spread burns safer

[vague haven]

Or just flat out kill like mega heatran probably will

But tbf we don't know it's ability yet so eh

[simple quartz]

It's kinda genuinely an all time stinker choice

It's not a tank so there's no way ensure the burns are spread out while being able to defend itself

But it's not even that much of an aggressive monster and it goes down really quickly

Giving up a Mega slot for Scovillain as far as I can see is a nonstarter

[violet flint]

mega mawile has 105 attack

[simple quartz]

And consequently Scovillain will remain Scovillain forever without any other way to make it better

[vague haven]

Damn effectively 210 atrack

[cloud lark]

Mega Hawlucha with No Guard has me kinda conflicted cause always accurate High Jump Kick sounds cool until you remember Ghosts and Protect exist and it still gets Close Combat which is only marginally weaker

[supple basalt]

Scrappy probably would have been better

It's what makes Flamigo pretty dec

[harsh drift]

Im playing radical red and im trying to beat misty in a rematch but I'm getting nowhere, anybody got any tips?

[cloud lark]

The ball's in your court, Staraptor

[vague haven]

Honestly I'm just happy that golurk got a cool ability

[supple basalt]

Did Staraptor get scrappy?

[cloud lark]

We don't know its ability yet

[supple basalt]

Ahh gotcha

[cloud lark]

I'm saying I hope it does

[supple basalt]

I know Mega Lopunny got Scrappy

[vague haven]

It would be funny if it got contrary

[simple quartz]

It is very likely however that its Contrary

[supple basalt]

Contrary would be good too

[simple quartz]

God I fucking hope its Contrary give my BL-stuck bird some justice

[supple basalt]

Ghost just kinda walls it

Isn't contrary only on less than good mons?

Like they'd be shit without it

[simple quartz]

Yeah but Ghost walling is a widespread thing and not necessarily Staraptor-only issue anyway

[vague haven]

For the most part yes but megas get weird abilities all the time so it might make staraptor absurd

[noble zealot]

Funnily enough, by taking the actual formula calculating for stats, 100 base attack boosted by Huge Power actually would be equivalent to base 278.5 attack.

[supple basalt]

True

[cloud lark]

Intimate into mega contrary CC spam sounds like the making of a fun Bulky sweeper

[vague haven]

My only concern is wether or not staraptor has the moves to take advantage of contrary or not

[cloud lark]

All we know of is CC

[vague haven]

I'm also hoping it keeps blaze kick for no reason other than it's funny on staraptor

[simple quartz]

Cosmic Power with every CC spam is really great in general ain't no way they're missing out on it on purpose

[cloud lark]

There's Enamorus

Granted all she has to abuse it is superpower and maybe Tera Stellar Tera Blast if you're feeling whimsical, but it's something

Anyway, Mega Chimecho is basically just Bronzong that can kinda attack and has an opportunity cost and I'm super upset about that

Of all abilities, they really could only think of Levitate?

[violet flint]

I decided to look it up because I wanted to know, so I found out huge power doesn't double the base attack stat, but it actually doubles the final attack stat considering level ivs evs nature
So it ends up being stronger than just doubling base attack

[supple basalt]

Sunburnt Victini looks weird

[cloud lark]

To give an idea of how extreme this is, Mega Zygarde with its base 216 SpA with perfect IVs, EVs, and a beneficial nature caps at 584.
Mega Mawile with ideal IVs, EVs, and a beneficial nature, when factoring in Huge Power, has 678 effective attack

Literally the absolute highest base offensive stat is still almost 100 points weaker than Huge Power Mega Mawile. Insanity.

[violet flint]

https://tenor.com/view/starmie-mega-starmie-pokemon-mega-pokemon-mega-evolution-gif-5067739399007146196

[cloud lark]

Mega Starmie with Huge Power caps at 656. With base 120 speed.

Who thought this was ok

Does Mega Starmie still have Triple Axel in Champions? Cause if yes, kill it now before it's too late

[twilit ridge]

I forgot mega starmie is literally the worst thing ever

I thought they ran out of ideas with flamigo but they proved me wrong

[violet flint]

https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-champions/starmie/

[twilit ridge]

"So the plan"

"we're gonna stretch these"

"Any objections?"

[violet flint]

I just wish it had more going on on its design because I absolutely fw its animations they're so peak

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-legends-z-a-za-legends-legends-za-gif-11877689517051603677

[noble zealot]

Which actually goes to an effective base Attack stat of 259

[cloud lark]

The fact that it's actually strong, meaning you'll be seeing it a lot in Champions, is probably the worst part. Cause any amount of comedy from the design will gradually be replaced with "I hate this thing even more than before"

[noble zealot]

It'll become the new Therian Landorus

[cloud lark]

Smogon will probably ban it in a few days, making for another Showdown W

[noble zealot]

What would be funny is if any of the new megas got suspect testing for banning from Ubers

I remember Mega Gengar narrowly avoided being banned from Ubers

[cloud lark]

Can't see that happening honestly, but it would be funny

Mega Starmie and maaaaybe Mega Froslass are so far the only ones that seem a bit too good

Maybe if that insane early rumor of Mega Golisopod getting Water Bubble happens, but I highly doubt that

Then again, there is Mega Magearna

[twilit ridge]

What's the land form of enamorous the turtle one

Same ungodly design

[noble zealot]

Isn't that one only BL2?

(How many years has it been since BL, BL2, etc. were renamed to UUBL, RUBL, etc.?)

[tired vortex]

So I started paying R.O.W.E and it's pretty neat!

[meager ravine]

Chat is ts is good deck for me just getting back into tcg

[supple basalt]

Can we get screenshots instead? I hate to be that person but random files on Discord of all platforms is a little unnerving

[sweet crypt]

By that logic, Gamefreak never had ideas

It all started with Seel

Every gen has some less creative Pokemon

[sweet crypt]

I think Mega Froslass will be fine for Singles

Mega Greninja, Delphox, Chesnaught by default are good

Because their stats are stupid

And they also get pretty good abilities

Seeing people click Sludge Bomb into Chesnaught never gets old

[queen pecan]

Mega frossade annihilated me with follow me and rage powder protection

I did bring a dragon thougj so thats on me

[sweet crypt]

Meganium and Fera also seem pretty good tbh

The former probably won't be OU though

But I think I can see the latter in OU

Maybe UU though

Or UUBL

[simple quartz]

M-Meganium seems pretty insane to me but idk

[cloud lark]

Crazy how I've unironically seen people calling Feraligatr getting the Dragon typing as a bad thing

[simple quartz]

I haven't meta'd my games since Gen 7

[sweet crypt]

Mega Floette is also scary

[cloud lark]

Diet Xerneas

[sweet crypt]

102 Speed, 155 SpA and Fairy Aura

[simple quartz]

I can understand it kinda

But also like

Water is not the type that loses from getting a Dragon typing

[cloud lark]

But even diet Xerneas is insane

[simple quartz]

They really gained if anything

Yeah Fairy crunches it but also it's basically just a normal Dragon that happens to have other great resistances (and 1/4 resistance to Water is very rare as is)

[sweet crypt]

The one thing that would hold Eternal Floette back is, funnily, one of the things that holds Xerneas back

Somewhat lacking coverage

You kinda just really want to spam Fairy

Because you don't have much else

I can see a set like Calm Mind Draining Kiss Moonblast Psychic?

[cloud lark]

Mega Floette with an item slot would straight up hit Chi-Yu numbers with Light of Ruin

[sweet crypt]

That probably could beat special attacking Steels

But obviously in general Steels are the issue

Like the 2 metal birds

Moreso Corv than Skarm since Skarm has poor special bulk

[cloud lark]

Wonder how many people are gonna make Weak Armor Skarm sets for building up the Mega

[sweet crypt]

At least 10

It's so funny to me that Eternal Floette was just

Locked in the code since XY

And technically present in like, every game Floette is in

But unobtainable

Same with Light of Ruin

[cloud lark]

To be fair it would be kinda weird for AZ to be willing to depart with Floette that soon after 3000 years

[sweet crypt]

Didn't get much of a choice in ZA, now did he?

[coarse viper]

Meganium is dodging me in the Gacha

[queen pecan]

Think i wanna try a zoark team for champion. Won't go well prob but be fun for a bit

[coarse viper]

My team so far is Gardevoir/Heracross/Whimiscot/Umbreon/Mewscarada/Azumaril

And i alternate between them in singles

Since you can only pick 3 and all that xD

Wish the dice item was in the game

Okay wtf the enemy gengar's quick claw just activated 3 times in a row whut?

[split yoke]

https://vxtwitter.com/i/status/2041808852325408905

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[queen pecan]

altaria/arcanine/pelliper/machamp/victribell/kingambit. which i realize isnt ideal, im mostly messing about and learning for now.
i wish altaria mega got a boost, love that one.

[queen pecan]

https://tenor.com/bErVt.gif

oh wait hisuian (who knows how to spell that) zoroark also got illusion? damn shoulda picked that one when i had the chance

oh well it pop back eventually

[rugged kestrel]

i had the cool idea that pokopia is a prequel to pokemon mystery dungeon but apparently that is not at all an original idea

i cant believe game freak actually developed such a dark and massively breaking from formula game

this is the best pokemon game since gen 4

[inland crane]

found out nemona is taller than me 🥀

anyways bug type mono, should I box starter or bug tera?

[coarse viper]

I vote for boxing

[onyx isle]

Anyone up for playing Pokemon showdown?

[full idol]

Apparently hawlucha has entrainment

[coarse viper]

Yeah i noticed

[smoky gyro]

Magic Guard ignores Salt Cure right

[spare hare]

cai i say something

[broken temple]

water monkey!

[glass pelican]

I think I majorly messed up by sending my Skeledirge from Scarlett to Champions because I just did two ranked matches and swept the competition with him

[vague haven]

Tbf skeledirge is pretty damn good

[coarse viper]

Torch song is pretty wild xD

[graceful mirage]

Gravity prankster sableye is kinda hilarious

Nothing can stop me from giving mega gengar 100% accurate hypnosis

[queen pecan]

gotta get me a gengar

[graceful mirage]

In champions at least they give you a gengar for free in the tutorial

[queen pecan]

nah i picked another starter

so just gonna wait for it to turn up in rotation again

[sturdy sparrow]

Champions needs to make so you wear the ball belt when you have a jacket on

[queen yacht]

you can send mons from mainline to champions?

[queen pecan]

yes, through pokemon home

pokemon go also

[sturdy sparrow]

No subscription needed to battle on the switch

[glass pelican]

Yeah through home

[glass pelican]

It is wild except when your opponent uses a mon with Soundproof

[vague haven]

Fr

[dry burrow]

Why Icy wind, give to him Ice beam or blizzard 🙏

[spare hare]

speed control and double hit is very good

[meager ravine]

ok

here's page 1

and here's page 2

[dry burrow]

why it's look like an epstein file 💀

[meager ravine]

it is a pdf

[dry burrow]

Guys did you know that if you play a ds game on a 3ds it looks worse

[meager ravine]

yes

[supple basalt]

It looks the same. I say as someone who owns both a NDS and a 3DS and has used NDS cartidges on 3DS

Turn the 3D off on the side

[dry burrow]

on the 3ds they look blurry compared to the ds

[cinder iron]

If you hold Start or Select while booting a game you get original resolution

[dry burrow]

yeah

rate this team

idk why Archeops, Galvantula and Haxorus have Pokérus

[supple basalt]

Only if the 3D effect is turned up

[mighty robin]

how dare you evolve that pokemon

[dry burrow]

????

[vague haven]

Joltik

[mighty robin]

also i think you have to charge your device

[dry burrow]

Just look at my team bro 💔

[vague haven]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-joltik-spider-out-the-door-gif-8249704754465931908

[mighty robin]

i did, and i immediantly noticed the galvantula

[dry burrow]

cutest pokemon ever

[mighty robin]

i like haxorus too

and you chose the good starter

[vague haven]

Fr

[dry burrow]

idk why Samurott is so underrated

[vague haven]

I love all of the starters

[dry burrow]

btw i completed the main game using only 5 mons because Volcarona is post game exclusive

[jovial cosmos]

Here's an extremely useful spreadsheet for any players interested in the changes to Pokémon, Moves, Abilities and whatnot in Pokémon Champions: 😄

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DeXjzohTUdKNERu6dsHsnznneva8MDJjglI3lqDLgm4/edit?gid=945860250#gid=945860250

[cloud lark]

I do kinda wonder if Champions will have the competitive longevity Gamefreak is hoping for with it considering Showdown still exists and just... has more things in it

Being the official venue for VGC is probably what will carry it

[brisk hedge]

Did you mean to say showdown?

[languid girder]

Consider this aspect though: it's only just come out and will be adding more to it. Being the official VGC vehicle will carry it to start with, but it's also an official version of Showdown that's just going to need time to release more content.

Also, just fought a Japanese player who had a Palafin on their team... then the first time they used it was as their last Pokemon... meaning it couldn't switch out to change form.

Bit of a tactical blunder there.

[winged lotus]

Playing Pokémon champions for the first time

So far no one has known how to deal with my tinkaton

Unsure why

[queen pecan]

Did not expect no guard sheer cold in champion

Big rip

[spare hare]

how you building her

[winged lotus]

Don’t remember, it’s a shiny one I got ages ago in violet

The move pool is protect, swords dance, gigaton hammer and play rough though

[spare hare]

does it die to gengar shadowball, if not its probably good

[winged lotus]

It does not

I think it outspeeds gengar and then the gengar gets one shot by gigaton

[cloud lark]

Tinkaton has really good special defense IIRC, so it can probably switch in on it

[queen pecan]

now the question is, if i get new champion pokes now, will thee 22 hour reset. or will it give me the 1 free try per day still 🤔

guess i wait an extra ten minute and find out

[winged lotus]

I really didn’t think I’d find much success with my tinkaton but it keeps destroying everyone

[violet flint]

/10

[supple basalt]

I forgot how mindless using Zacian in Pokerogue is. I hadn't used Zacian since I got its T3 shiny and finally decided to do a run with it lol and it's so mindless

[cloud lark]

"I forgot how brainless using Zacian in Pokerogue is."

It's pretty much always a big dumb beatstick

[supple basalt]

I mean half the time I just sit there and press the A button. Occasional SD. But I have all its egg moves which are Magical Torque, Bitter Blade, Mighty Kleave, and Earthquake

Meow is my normal rayquaza counter with Taxel, especially when the game is wide lens friendly. But Zacian just oh-kos it with magical torque

Alr that was fun back to farming Zamazenta candies. I still needs its other shinies

[weary grail]

Ooh, it's that from a rom hack?

[supple basalt]

Nah, Pokerogue is a website fangame

[weary grail]

Ah

[graceful mirage]

Loving that nobody i fight knows what inner focus does. The amount of times my gallade has been fake outed is hilarious

[sweet crypt]

Sounds like skill issue on their part

I assume you're using the Mega?

[graceful mirage]

Yeah

[sweet crypt]

Maybe they Faked Out before you Megad

Idk

Did they?

[graceful mirage]

I mega'd on that turn yeah it was turn 1

But people keep doing it to dragonite too

[sweet crypt]

They were probably expecting Base Gallade I guess

[sweet crypt]

Expecting Mega Dnite? Idk

[graceful mirage]

Mega gallade has been a real star of my gravity team

[graceful mirage]

Fast ass hypnosis, fake out immune, strong rockslide

[hollow sable]

I love this guy so much

[sweet crypt]

I mean assuming you're playing Doubles, I've been told that Gallade is supposedly probably better than the Mega

Though that's because Gallade is a support mon in Doubles

And in Singles yeah no the Mega is better

Sharpness be damned

[graceful mirage]

Im running mega gallade because it has very specific advantages for my team i cant get elsewhere rn

[sweet crypt]

Fair

Fake Out immunity is nice

[graceful mirage]

Namely fake out immunity, strong fighting stab, fast hypnosis and rockslide. With gravity up from prankster sableye hypnosis and rock slide always hit

[sweet crypt]

Idk much about Doubles

[graceful mirage]

Its like an alternative to my mega gengar which does a similar thing with focus blast, fast hypnosis under gravity

[sweet crypt]

All people tell me about Gallade in Doubles is that it clicks Wide Guard

That's it

That's what it's watered down to

So I have 0 clue what it does apart from that

[graceful mirage]

Thats kinda it for base gallade

Also sableye stocks are up in champions

Grimmsnarl is not there to be better sableye

But also its the only prankster + gravity mon thats fake out and prankster immune so its super hard to deny setting up gravity

Plus prankster encore is always strong

Heres the team except its a little different. Goodra has flash cannon instead of dragon tail and different EVs. Also gooey.

And durant is replaced by dragonite since durant is sadly absent

On of course there are missing items

Goodra has citrus berry. Sableye has the anti-fairy berry

[twilit ridge]

I just learned something really odd about Rotom and their forms.
Most of the forms only get one move that corresponds to their new type.
Heat rotom can only learn 2 fire moves, being overheat (which it learns on becoming heat rotom) and will-o-wisp (which all the rotom's can learn)
Wash rotom can only learn 1 water move, being hydro pump.
Fan rotom's only flying move is air slash.
Mow Rotom can only learn Leaf Storm
and Frost rotom can only learn blizzard.

????
Why can they learn no other moves? And that includes the moves learnable by TM's!

[sweet crypt]

Yeah they just

Only get 1 unique move of their type per form

And tbf, I'd say Heatom and Mowtom got their best options

And Washtom didn't get a bad move either

But like

Blizzard when Ice Beam exists?

Air Slash when Hurricane exists?

[twilit ridge]

my goat frost rotom got shafted brodie

[sweet crypt]

I get that Hurricane is a Blizzard clone but like

[twilit ridge]

70 ACC move 💔

[sweet crypt]

Air Slash sure as hell ain't no Ice Beam

75 BP and it has the AUDACITY to take away 5% accuracy

[twilit ridge]

• fan rotom has levitate 😭

[sweet crypt]

Flying rolls 0 good Non-Signature Special moves

Asked to leave the room

[sweet crypt]

The Appliances used to all be Electric/Ghost

That's why Fantom still has Levitate

Because it used to not be a Flying type

[twilit ridge]

they should've changed it man

[sweet crypt]

They likely didn't change it because it'd entail changing the ability of every other Rotom form

And they all really like Levitate

[twilit ridge]

it makes sense

[sweet crypt]

As to why they didn't just

Add a 2nd ability

Who the fuck knows lmao

They shouldn't change it

[twilit ridge]

or maybe an ability for each form idk

[sweet crypt]

Since like I said

[twilit ridge]

yeah

[sweet crypt]

That'd imply the others lose Levitate

And that'd be a devastating blow

[twilit ridge]

either keep it or you gotta give all the others one

especially to rotom heat'

4X weakness

[sweet crypt]

Washtom, Heatom and Frostom all hate losing Levitate

Being the 3 that are weak to Ground

And you kinda, uh

Don't want your Water or Ice type to lose to Ground types

Mowtom is in a better spot since it's neutral but full immunity to a type you're neutral to is still great

[split yoke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6Bh2hpDPyI

[sweet crypt]

Mfw they remove half the fucking items

That's really the biggest issue I have with it

[split yoke]

Not having 6v6, even in private battles is diabolical. lol

[sweet crypt]

Limiting the roster is fine, limited rosters can be fun

Where the fuck are the items lmfao

[sweet crypt]

This too

[split yoke]

Limited roster, yeah. I can forgive. Even though it's even more limited than the game cube version of this game.

Like, "Hey, here are your tools this season. Figure it out. We'll swap them around next season."

[sweet crypt]

This is probably the most disappointing shit ever

[split yoke]

That could be genuinely interesting.

[sweet crypt]

Because this is the first time where genuinely, it feels like Gamefreak went below 0 expectations

They went negative on this shit

I can't say for any other Pokemon game I genuinely felt this way where they managed to be worse than having 0 expectations

[split yoke]

Well, people were pretty happy about Pokopia.

So it's quite extreme whiplash.

[sweet crypt]

I need to reiterate

Where are the fucking items

[brisk hedge]

Apparently it’s not just the Home link that’s undergoing maintenance

[split yoke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGKfbElavvA

[cloud lark]

That was co-developed by Omega Force TBF, and they have a good track record.

Champions was developed in part by ILCA

The BDSP team.

[sweet crypt]

So what you're saying is that both of the Pokemon games ILCA worked on have been heavily disliked so far?

[cloud lark]

They definitely haven't had a good track record so far at least

All I can really say about all of this is "Showdown stays winning"

[sand lion]

pokemon larpers complaining about champions being bad whilst never touching competitive battling ever

[sweet crypt]

I've played a lot of Showdown

Does that count

[sand lion]

a lot of standard ou?

[sweet crypt]

Mostly Singles tiers, mainly OU, but I do play Ubers and lower tiers from time to time

Are you gonna be one of those people who are extremely patronising to Singles and say it isn't valid

[sand lion]

no

[sweet crypt]

OK good I was a bit worried you would be since there's so many people like that

You can definitely tell Champions was more made with Doubles in mind though

And even then I don't think I've seen much positive reception from Doubles players

So uhh

[cloud lark]

I feel like complaining about the lack of options for items and no access to the series standard 6v6 singles are valid complaints no matter how little competitive experience you have

[sweet crypt]

But like from that viewpoint

Was Garganacl like

An ACTUAL threat in Doubles

Idk my Doubles knowledge is minimal

But like I think Garganacl is more of a Singles bitchass motherfucker than a Doubles bitchass motherfucker

But they nerfed it pretty hard anyways

[cloud lark]

I feel like it's already patronizing to discount criticism of Champions by just saying "ye aren't a true Scotsman competitive player so shut up"

[graceful mirage]

Tbf pokemon stadium had pre evos. I think not including pre evos champions actually has more mons. And theres only like 4 relevant pre evos in comp anyway

Off the top of my head
Clefairy
Dusclops
Porygon 2
Magmar
Murkrow
Are the only competitively relevant pre evolutions

I guess evee too when Z moves are around

[sweet crypt]

From a Singles perspective there's uh

Uhhh

...

Porygon2? Since PZ doesn't share the same role with it?

[cloud lark]

Chansey

[sweet crypt]

Oh true a lot of items that made Blissey better than Chansey just

Don't fucking exist anymore lmfao

And I think Eviolite still exists

If those items actually existed I'd say you have 0 reason to use Chansey because just use Blissey

There's no tiers anymore

Well ig there technically never were

And in Singles there would still be tiers

Smogon Singles I mean

OK so Chansey, P2

... wait, neither of their evo lines are in Champions, are they?

I don't think Blissey or PZ made it in

[cloud lark]

Anyway, unevolved Pokémon still have enough appeal to them that Genius Sonority back when the internet was still young still thought to make Little Cup a thing, a playstyle that still sees an active community on Showdown to this day. Little Cup could absolutely be adapted into Champions alongside unevolved mons and it would see a decent amount of play

[sweet crypt]

First ever LC Doubles format to ever see actual play?

[cloud lark]

I'm curious to see what that would look like

[sweet crypt]

Litten Top 1 trust

[cloud lark]

It would probably be Hisuian Qwilfish considering it has a better defensive statline and type

[sweet crypt]

In VGC, yeah probably either it or like

One of those other LCs that used to be fully evolved

Duraludon, Scyther, Girafarig whatnot

But I mean Doubles LC OU probably would ban those

For Champions though yeah H-Qwil stays winning

SV OU is suspecting Tera Blast

[cloud lark]

That feels like a ban that would definitely have a ripple effect on the meta

[sweet crypt]

Volcarona unban trust

I'm sure defensive Tera on a Pokemon with a giga shitton of good resistances that can take a single turn to snowball out of control isn't broken

[tight granite]

i built this trying to get Gholdengo to spawn...cause i was like yeah that makes sense

try and guess who actually spawned

if you actually know either dont say or spoiler it

[split yoke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m5A3mrrf40

[queen pecan]

Pity the free pokemon 22 wait resets when you use points to buy a pokemon at the ranch.

[vital flare]

Gimmghouls evolution? If I'm right It was a pure guess

And a lot evolutions seem to share there spawners

[nocturne river]

i am very late to this post but why did you put sv at D

[lyric basin]

You know a fangame is about to get good when they whip out the Elden Ring OST

[cinder iron]

Playing Sapphire

[queen yacht]

what emulator is that?

[tight granite]

Nah i said gholdengo doesn't spawn there

[rugged kestrel]

doing a firered normal monotype

brock was aids

[fathom dragon]

Okay, I know this is infinite fusion, but does anyone in here know where in the hell can I find a place to talk about pokémon empyrean because my ass does not know what to do and can't find anywhere to talk about it, any discord server invitation I find are invalid or forums about it are inactive, wiki doesn't say shit either

[rugged kestrel]

dude there was a fukin xenomorph cut from gen 2

[delicate hollow]

Sorry to say it but I hate Champions already with only 186 Pokemon available which means any kept in Home cannot be sent over and that sucks ass!

[mighty robin]

i saw a video on champions

it's literally just showdown

two people battling

[broken temple]

its showdown but you pay extra to beat children

[fathom dragon]

nobody?

[broken temple]

the download page on pokecommunity has a discord link

try that

[fathom dragon]

"Please note: our Discord is not available for help for any specific fan game. Our moderators will be unable to assist you with this fan game."

[broken temple]

lovely policy they have

[fathom dragon]

type shit

[broken temple]

open someones letsplay playthrough and follow along from where you ware then

if their discord is useless youtube could help

[fathom dragon]

problem is

people's let's play aren't complete

they just stop not even halfway through the game for some reason

[broken temple]

if i remember correctly the game took awhile to be complete

maybe that

[fathom dragon]

well yeah but the game has been fully out since 2017 gang

[broken temple]

i remember playing it few years back and i just did one of the last story things up to the e4 and gave up after

[fathom dragon]

it's been almost a decade

[broken temple]

not much incentive to return to the game for most people

if you are before the postgame i think a guy named "heroVoltsy" has a full playthrough

on yt

people dont really do letsplays of fan game post games often

[graceful mirage]

https://pokepast.es/81cdfbbcabb8533f
Heres my current gravity team for champions doubles. Any suggestions are welcome

[fathom dragon]

Helpful, thank you

[coarse viper]

Trick Room Mega Gardevoir is mhm so far

singles cuz doubles suck

[graceful mirage]

Mega gardevoir goes pretty hard in doubles too

Although sorta outclassed by mega floette

I think the lack of mega floettes ive seen really speaks to how few people did ZA's postgame grind

[coarse viper]

Azumarill turned the situation around for me just to fumble at the end and miss his play rough

[coarse viper]

Okay yeah I hope protect gets reduced to 5 usages

I am tired of the spam

[graceful mirage]

They already reduced it to 8

[coarse viper]

Further..smh stalling an inevitable death just cause of spite is annoying

[graceful mirage]

Who is even using protect more than 5 times

I only had it happen once because i had shadow tag gengar there and i encored both of their pokemon into protect it was hilarious

Then i just killed them but they kept hitting the double and even triple protects so it took awhile

I wonder if i could replace the pelliper on my team with alolan ninetails

You know actually a little annoying im gonna have to get a second Hisuian goodra for this other team so i dont have to keep manually changing the moves on my goodra across different teams

[coarse viper]

I had someone that tried to cheese my mega gardevoir with drain kiss...

He was using protect 2 times in a row

And yes it got activated two times in a row

[graceful mirage]

I mean i had that too but i also forced them into only clicking protect

[coarse viper]

Well they had salt cure

Sooo yeah they tried

[harsh drift]

Does anybody know how to get HeartGold golden edition to work on Android? I can't get the patch to work no matter what I use

[sturdy sparrow]

Double checking Pokemon from any legends can’t be transferred to main games right?

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/danganronpa-no-thats-wrong-makoto-naegi-gif-26672582

You can transfer Legends Arceus mons into any main series game other than Let’s Go (assuming the species is available in that game)

It’s just ZA that you can’t transfer backwards from for some stupid reason

[sweet crypt]

Playing on a Cobblemon server rn

I just beat the current Bug gym leader, who from what I can gather is one of the most skilled players in the server, with my own Mono Bug team, which feels incredibly good

Definitely the most skilled person I've fought on that server, at the very least

[supple basalt]

Something something new battle system

[coarse viper]

Thats still great news to hear because that means I can do the pokedex in Shining pearl by home transfer xD

[sand lion]

vgc guys

[dull crow]

doesnt even make sense all the same stats are saved

[cloud lark]

There's also safeguards against Pokémon being transferred around with moves they shouldn't have

There's really no excuse

[sweet crypt]

Do VGC games really last long enough for a Pokemon to click Protect 8 times

[sand lion]

sometimes

[brisk hedge]

Is there a type of food in Pokopia that powers up strength?

[true rune]

Second god pack ever

[coarse viper]

Lets gooo free maganium!

[mighty robin]

guys, how are my nicknames in Pokemon HeartGold from years ago when I was however many years old.

[split yoke]

Fancy

[noble zealot]

I had some interesting nicknames in the past

I had a Crobat named "Crap You" in Pearl back when I discovered Action Replay.

[mighty robin]

I honestly don’t remember what I was doing in HG

[cloud lark]

Probably battling your Pokémon against others

[simple quartz]

Amazing things are happening in Champions

[queen pecan]

Heck yeah

[hardy sedge]

If Gardevoir could be male it made no sense to keep Gallade from being female!! ☝️

[smoky gyro]

Not even close

[inland crane]

ily iron press my only useful pokemon

[spare hare]

finally they put champions reg on showdown.

[mild dirge]

im so great at showdown

the goated team if any of yall wanna use it

[lyric basin]

"young lively people" "such sparkling eyes" "I can show you the most entertaining parts of a party" the richest man in Kalos, hitting on kids..no comment

"disturbing rumors are circulating about his leisure activities" yeah this guy definitely has a private island

[main rune]

Don’t make jokes/comments like that please

[hushed pond]

What game is that?

[celest merlin]

Tandemaus has joined the ever-growing legion of Pokémon I came to love after having them as a buddy in Pokémon GO. Seeing their animations really sells the design

[coarse viper]

Lets goo got my first Shiny Alpha in legends of Arceus

[lyric basin]

Z, would highly recommend

https://hack-haven.com/pokemon-z-english/

[hushed pond]

Maybe I'll give it a try

[woeful cosmos]

is it a romhack or a fangame

if its a romhack pretty sure you cant post it here

[lyric basin]

No its a fangame

[woeful cosmos]

k

[harsh drift]

I FINALLY BEAT RADICAL RED

I spent almost a full week on the elite 4

Zeraora & Terapagos hard carried

Gardevoir clutched at the end she was on low hp & poisoned against the final enemy but she pulled through

[hushed pond]

Considering playing that now that I've beat PIF
not that I'm done with the game ofc

[harsh drift]

Good luck, if you're like me and have no idea how competitive battling works then it's gonna be hell

[hushed pond]

I am exactly like that so uhhh

[harsh drift]

It was really fun though, made me learn more about Pokémon

[hushed pond]

Not looking great for me xD

[harsh drift]

I basically brute forced my way through most of the game so hey you can always try that lol

Plus it has almost every Pokémon from gen 1-9

Which was also annoying to deal with

[hushed pond]

Quite the pokedex to complete

[harsh drift]

Oh yeah for sure

Tons of mega evolutions too

[hushed pond]

Dang that is a lot of pokemon

[lunar pollen]

finally ultra in doubles in champions, I was using the team in blunder's golurk video... except I gave the giraffe dazzling gleam over helping hand and that shit went triple platinum in my rank up match, was spamming it and everything was getting low for me to clean up easily. I hate being face to face with a dark type and only having "twin beam" on it, so honestly... big brain move from me.

[woeful cosmos]

whats champions

[coarse estuary]

you dont know what pokemon champions is?

[woeful cosmos]

nah

[tight granite]

new switch game/phone app by nintendo thats supposed to be used for all pokemon battles now

but its kinda not well made

[coarse estuary]

really hope nintendo doesnt take battling out of main series pokemon to force us to play champions if we want pokemon battling

[tight granite]

not really what i meant lul

not that i would mind

[coarse estuary]

i do hope that doesnt happen since i dont wanna be forced to play vgc doubles if i wanna battle at all

[buoyant sonnet]

I wanna play a older pokemon game
like...
red - xy
but where i can start with
Charcadet
and evolve it into my ceruledge

Any ideas?

[coarse estuary]

you cant do that. you cant play a gen 6 or earlier game and expect to use a gen 9 mon

[buoyant sonnet]

Not true, I saw someone do it

Trying to figure out what rom it was

[coarse estuary]

a rom hack is different than just playing a main line game. you didnt specify rom hack so i assumed you meant get a copy of say pokemon platinum and expect to find charcadet in it

[buoyant sonnet]

nah nah, rom/rom hack, idc, i'd just like to start with charcadet in an older game because ceruledge is my fav

[coarse estuary]

bro if you are going to be rude to me for wanting to help you i will not help

[buoyant sonnet]

im not being rude, im just saying, idc if its a rom hack or whichever method it is

whatever the method, i wanna do it, i just dunno where to find what im after

[coarse estuary]

well you can not play a vinilla game and expect to find gen 9 mons in it so you wuld have to find any rom hack thats gen 9 mons or all gens into it

and google is your best bet

[buoyant sonnet]

thats the problem, i tried google, thus i came here

[coarse estuary]

well this isnt a rom hacking discord so this isnt the best place but i do know radical red has every gen of pokemon in it

[supple basalt]

It looks like that's Radical Red. I've never played RR so I could be wrong but I know it has gen 9 mons

[buoyant sonnet]

Charcadet starter would be awesome, im gonna check it out

[supple basalt]

Keep in mind it's also probably on randomizer

In the screenshot you sent

[coarse estuary]

and also note radical red is a hack made to be really hard

[buoyant sonnet]

thats fine!

[buoyant sonnet]

Pokemon Emerald Quetzal lets you pick any 1-9 as your starter!

[coarse estuary]

ooh nice