other-pokemon-games

[sweet crypt]

Still a bit scary

Since if it's +Speed it could outspeed at 1 Carbos

Naganadel isn't much faster

[tardy anchor]

OMG my luck 😭

its a trainer battle

[sweet crypt]

That's Will, right?

Alright, that's problematic

I guess it could also be Crispin

Which is still problematic

The Blueberry E4 is the E4 with the highest difficulty overall while Johto E4 is signalling either Lance or Red, the latter of which being a major issue due to Multiscale Lugia

[tardy anchor]

GG Lucario speed blitz all of them

ngl at the start I was a bit worried

when my Naganadel and Garganacal died

by my boi handled it easily

[sweet crypt]

Ok, good luck

Like I said, Blueberry E4 is the most problematic

You'll be facing Amarys next, she's a Steel type trainer

[tardy anchor]

e speed, triple axel, close combat, sword dance on Mega Lucario

[sweet crypt]

Lucario should handle this

After Amarys will be Lacey, she uses Fairy types

If you can get a Memory Mushroom, teach Mega Lucario a Steel move before 186

[tardy anchor]

nice then Naganadel will also help cause I got armour cannon on it

[sweet crypt]

Last would be Drayton, who uses Dragon types

If Naganadel can get Beast Boost going in that fight, that'd be great

[tardy anchor]

tera poison revelation dance Naganadel will 1 hit ko her

[sweet crypt]

Be wary of Excadrill

It has Sturdy

It will use Tera Fairy ASAP

[tardy anchor]

AYO 💀

[sweet crypt]

Amarys Terastalises Reuniclus into a Steel type, and Drayton should Terastalise his Sceptile into a Dragon type

[tardy anchor]

I'll switch in Lucario or Rotom

[sweet crypt]

As for Kieran, you'd do well to remember Terapagos' Tera Shell

Since Tera Shell makes it resist any move as long as it was used while Terapagos is at full HP, you almost definitely cannot OHKO it

[tardy anchor]

IG now its time for Amarya

what was her entire team?

[sweet crypt]

The main ones I remember are Tera Reun, Empoleon, Metagross and Skarmory

In other words, Lucario won't be able to just OHKO sweep

Since Metagross and Skarm get in the way

[tardy anchor]

yeah I've reset twice 💀

[sweet crypt]

All E4 members also have 1 random Pokemon of their type speciality

[tardy anchor]

first I wanna setup a stealth rock

[sweet crypt]

It isn't worth it

Especially if Reun here is Magic Guard, which it could be

The only Sturdy Pokemon is Skarmory, who's the lead

And Skarmory is also one of the only Pokemon that is hit for more than neutral if Reun is Magic Guard

I think she can have either Scizor or A-Dug, the former might justify Stealth Rocks?

And the mystery Pokemon, idk

[tardy anchor]

aaaaah what do I switch in against her meta

I got salt cure on it

but cant stall with Garganacl

cause it 1 hit KO with meteor mash

[sweet crypt]

If Garg is out, Metagross will probably use a Steel move

[tardy anchor]

yeah meteor mash

[sweet crypt]

Rotom both resists Steel and is your least valuable member so losing it wont be too bad

[tardy anchor]

but it would be good against ampolion

[sweet crypt]

I guess Tinkaton would be worse in the context of this battle actually

It doesnt resist Steel but you could maybe sacrifice it too

Naganadel should have a Fire move, so keeping it would be nice

[tardy anchor]

I think Lucario can take a meteor mash pretty well?

[sweet crypt]

It does

If you're confident Lucario can handle Metagross after switching it in, go for it

But remember that Lucario is your most valuable member in this fight

[tardy anchor]

oh yeah I can switch in Lucaio and then it will loose more Hp with Salt cure then Ill close combat

[sweet crypt]

You don't want to lose it

[tardy anchor]

I think it will be in range

of a KO

[sweet crypt]

Doing a Mono Ghost Random Run rn

I don't have particularly good feelings about it though

[tardy anchor]

oh yeah it does

1 hit KO meta

[sweet crypt]

Since I don't have any extremely obvious hard carries

Drifloon should be able to put in work once it evolves and gets a Flame Orb though

But I also relied on Sitrus Berries from Pickup a lot for my Drifblim runs

So like

I do also have Pecharunt but it isn't exactly a sweeper

Good MU vs the rival though

They have Quaxly and Rookidee rn

Pecharunt lures in Corviknight and uses it as setup fodder

Early Dawn Stone would also be nice

I currently have a worthless Snorunt on my team

[tardy anchor]

OMG!!!
Lucario my GOAT

he 1 shot the entire team once I switch it in to KO Meta

no sword dance setup req

[sweet crypt]

Nice

[tardy anchor]

💀

[sweet crypt]

You definitely want Stealth Rocks for Boss Excadrill

[tardy anchor]

came out with 0 damage throughout the battle

[sweet crypt]

Excadrill switching in on Garg is a possibility though

But Lacey leads with Whimsicott

So hopefully that gets it to stay in

Garg should tank a Whimsicott hit, Whimsicott doesn't typically hit hard

[tardy anchor]

Now Lacey

what was her team?

Fairy types?

[sweet crypt]

Yes

Set up Rocks ASAP

Garg should tank a Whimsicott hit

If rocks are up, you should be able to pull off a Naganadel sweep

Since Revalation Dance will OHKO Tera Fairy Excadrill

[tardy anchor]

WHAT

its faster than my Naganadel

[sweet crypt]

How many Carboses does it have?

Oh actually I think I might know what it is

Whimsicott might've used Tailwind

Which you can't stop, since it has Prankster

[tardy anchor]

Naga got 1

[sweet crypt]

That's annoying if true

[sweet crypt]

No, the Excadrill

Excadrill is infinitely slower than Naganadel

So either it has a lot of Carboses or Whimsicott used Tailwind

If it's the latter, you'll want to stall a bit

[tardy anchor]

0

[sweet crypt]

Has to be Tailwind on Whimsicott, then

You probably don't need to reset

Just stall out the rest of the Tailwind turns before bringing Lucario in

If you taught it Meteor Mash like I suggested you should, it should be able to clean up from there

For future reference, pay attention to what the opponent is using

Anyways, got a Dawn Stone, so I can now use Froslass

[tardy anchor]

GG

Triple Axel took care of excadrill

Naganadel the GOAT

whats her team?

[sweet crypt]

1: His
2: Intimidate Incineroar/Prankster Grimmsnarl, Water Absorb Poliwrath/Drizzle Politoed, Multiscale Dnite, Guts Flame Orb Ursaluna/Blood Moon Ursaluna, Terapagos and Tera Fighting Boss Hydrapple

Stealth Rocks are amazing here

Since they deactivate Tera Shell

Making you actually able to OHKO Terapagos

[smoky gyro]

Is Adaptability the same as Tinted Lens

Assuming you hit a resisted, obviously

Or are their multipliers in different parts of the equation so one is technically stronger

Non STAB on tinted lens too so you dont get the 1.5x

[sweet crypt]

Non STAB Tinted Lens hit is equal to STAB Adaptability hit on a resisted target

Unless I'm stupid

STAB Tinted Lens is very obviously stronger though

There is technically a very small difference in calculation

Unless I'm being stupid

252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Crawdaunt Crabhammer vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro: 114-135 (28.9 - 34.2%) -- 2.9% chance to 3HKO
Possible damage amounts: (114, 116, 117, 118, 120, 121, 122, 124, 125, 126, 128, 129, 130, 132, 133, 135)
252+ Atk Choice Band Tinted Lens Crawdaunt Hammer Arm vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro: 114-134 (28.9 - 34%) -- 2.2% chance to 3HKO
Possible damage amounts: (114, 116, 116, 118, 120, 120, 122, 124, 124, 126, 128, 128, 130, 132, 132, 134)

[tawdry breach]

Pokemon Relict is pretty good

My only pet-peeve is Arkoos makes you an errand boy

@atomic sparrow

[brisk hedge]

So apparently Clefairy can fly

[tardy anchor]

HE was so easy

How unlucky can I be 😭

[sweet crypt]

Wait to hatch a Raging Bolt

Save the file for later

Once you hatch Raging Bolt, come back to this save to catch it

[tardy anchor]

Too late

Now it's dead

🙂

[mighty robin]

Here's a picture I took of my PLA team, I don't know when in the story this was taken, but here's the levels: 41, 37, 44, 34, 28 and 32

And then an old picture of my team after beating Raihan in Sword. Levels are: 72, 66, 64, 64, 62, 62.

[tardy anchor]

OMG

MY GOAT

MY KING

THE STRONGEST

MOST CHARMING POKEMON

LUCARIO

JUST

1 SHOT MEGA RAYQUAZA

OMG MY GOAT JUST 1 HIT KOed HER ENTIRE TEAM

[brittle minnow]

squadded up, now with an equal split of Autobots and Decepticons on the team

i know Bluestreak isn't actually blue but come on, it's the perfect name for a Manectric

[supple basalt]

Manectric is blue tbh

Primary body color lol

[brittle minnow]

yeah but u would imagine a Transformers character named Bluestreak also being blue

nope

[supple basalt]

PFFT Actually not blue at all

[brittle minnow]

(they're all named after TF characters if that wasn't clear sorry)

[supple basalt]

I figured

[brittle minnow]

it used to anger me as a kid when i was watching G1. i'm like "they keep saying Bluestreak but i don't see a blue character so it must be an animation/scripting error"

[cinder iron]

Like Krishna (Name means Dark Blue) being Red in Megami Tensei I

[brittle minnow]

i mean G1 Transformers was outsourced to japanese animation studios so it could literally have been a translation error 😭 i'm not sure

[cinder iron]

I can take him being green in Last Bible III because of the Japanese blue-green weirdness
But RED

[brittle minnow]

anyway, i love themeing my teams after other fandoms i'm in so sorry for the tangent

[cinder iron]

SAME

I tend to stick with a Megami Tensei theme tbh

Currently playing Leafgreen on the Switch with my starter being a Charmander named Walter

After the funny Agi guy who becomes Lucifer

[brittle minnow]

i did a Sleep Token team in Platinum recently (cringe i know, it's my favourite game and my favourite band sue me) and a while back i did an Ace Attorney team in XY lmao

no wait

it was SuMo because Dick Gumshoe was a Gumshoos

[cinder iron]

Also might do MegaTen for RSE

And spend ages looking for a Feebas because goddamnit Krishna really fuckin works for a Milotic nickname

[brittle minnow]

oh that IS pretty. idk anything about SMT but i do love assigning pokémon to my faves,,

[cinder iron]

Associated with beauty, the Tender Pokémon, has blue in its palette, later gains Cute Charm as a HA

Krishna worm

[brittle minnow]

Starscream, my Skarmory, knows Thief and Sand Attack purely because Starscream is a sneaky treacherous bitch

[cinder iron]

Yup

[brittle minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/starscream-transformers-transformers-prime-gif-14662886442636539896

and tell me that's not just Skarmory

[cinder iron]

HE IS

When I played GO I had a Skarmory named Starscream

[brittle minnow]

YOOO TWINS

[cinder iron]

I also think Dragapult would work for him
If you know you know

[brittle minnow]

i think Dragapult would be Soundwave bc of the cassettes

[coarse viper]

Ah Twink Starscream my beloved

[brittle minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-g1-decepticon-sound-wave-gif-14180074

[cinder iron]

I was thinking about the plane and Starscream dying in a lot of continuities thing

[brittle minnow]

yeah lmao, technically his spark is immortal though. or very very very hard to kill

[cinder iron]

Might do a Beast Era playthrough of GSC at some stage tbh

[coarse viper]

Best design in transformers prime is clearly Soundwave

[cinder iron]

Thank you Japan for doing more Beast Wars stuff so I have more name fodder

[brittle minnow]

i'm actually working on a fusion of Skarmory/Rotom that is just Starscream lmao
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1475664675285762109

[cinder iron]

I like Starscream and Knock Out tbh

Nice

[coarse viper]

https://tenor.com/view/tfp-soundwave-transformers-prime-tfp-soundwave-transformers-gif-4897561726149377902

[cinder iron]

Also

Got a nickname idea for an Arcanine for a MegaTen one

Katsuya, after Katsuya Suou from the Persona 2 Duology

Police and fire association, vaguely feline like Katsuya's Persona Helios

[peak kite]

Doggo

[cinder iron]

Potential Red Team planned

[vernal elk]

comp

love it

[cinder iron]

Yup

[glacial plinth]

You guys remember okidogi
What a guy

[broken temple]

nope

[cinder iron]

You jest but as a Momotarō enjoyer I love the 3 legendary freaks

Fezandipiti my beloved

[glacial plinth]

What about Flamigo

The icon

[broken temple]

idk i didnt play that game

[glacial plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/flamigo-pokemon-flamigo-pokemon-gif-1582249513694189822

Its literally just a flamingo

Makes pidove look inspired

https://tenor.com/view/pidove-pokemon-pidove-pokemon-bird-dove-gif-90548484352229298

[broken temple]

forgot to lock in
ported a bird

[cinder iron]

I like Flamigo tbh

[glacial plinth]

What about it makes you like it?

[cinder iron]

I like the shapes and the shiny

[broken temple]

its just a flamingo

[coarse estuary]

emerald is fun but replaying it for this leg of the lineagelocke has just taught me that i dont play the emerald story enough to remember how the story divates after mt chimney and where the place is to get ray ray to stop the children from fighting

[coarse estuary]

does that fact mean they arent allowed to like it?

[broken temple]

not at all

i just think more could have been done with the design

[cinder iron]

I love how Gen 1 Pidgey is the most bird bird to ever bird

Remarkable, wonderful

[broken temple]

gen 1 was wild

idk how that got off

[cinder iron]

Gen 1 is my precious babby child I love Pokémon Green

[broken temple]

like i see this and i dont know how pokemon got so popular

[cinder iron]

I love doing a little magic trick and suddenly I have a cat I wasn't supposed to have

[broken temple]

pokemon tought kids real magic

[cinder iron]

I love going to the island of shade of red I think and seeing corruption before my very eyes and suddenly the candy I had in my pocket is infinite

[broken temple]

i think i only played gen 1 like twice

[cinder iron]

I keep replaying Gen 1

[broken temple]

something used disable and i got softlocked

thats when i took my bag and left

[cinder iron]

Gen 1 is special to me

I need to replay Green and use a Missingno.

[broken temple]

gen 1 has too much jank for me to enjoy

[cinder iron]

The jank is why I love it tbh

God I need to replay Green

[coarse estuary]

its been a while since ive played oras. what are some fun mons you recommend me to try. dont worry if its a version exclusive to a version or a trade evo i got both games and pksm

[supple basalt]

Yeah the jank gives the gen one charm lol

[broken temple]

i really like zangoose and seviper
really under utilized in playthroughs

[cinder iron]

Gen 1 is my very special boy I love how it's before the era of Pokémon having things like "a consistent brand image" or "being the highest-grossing media franchise"

It feels weirdly pure and uncorrupted

[brittle minnow]

something something Grimer is a pile of sludge and Muk is a bigger pile of sludge /j

[broken temple]

i actually like alolan muk and grimer more
🤓 ☝️

[brittle minnow]

my boyfriend's hyperfixation is meteorology so i named my Castform after him 😭 it even kind of looks like him with the "glasses" around its eyes. he doesn't know anything about pokémon but he was really flattered

[digital swift]

how do i evo kadabra on fire red on the switch

[brittle minnow]

ah i'm guessing trading isn't an option

[digital swift]

.

so filling your pokedex?

just aint a thing?

[brittle minnow]

did they not add link cables?

if this is an oversight i'll be. Miffed

[digital swift]

.

lemme check

ive heard NOTHING about it tho

[brittle minnow]

maybe there's some way to trade, they CAN'T have just forgotten about trade evo pokémon

[digital swift]

ikr

thats what im thinkin

cuz like

pokemon home is the only way it could work

and we dont got that yet

[brittle minnow]

i just looked - local wireless trading with another switch seems to be the only option

[digital swift]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

i do have my switch 1

but like

i bought the games on my switch 2

so why would it have transfered

[brittle minnow]

this is why i emulate ugh

[digital swift]

musta been the wind

[brittle minnow]

physical trading is just so.

[digital swift]

idkl abt u but like

bulbasaur is easy mode yes

[brittle minnow]

like it was cool when i was a kid but i'm an adult now, i don't have friends to trade with or the money for a whole other console and game just to get 3 more 'mon for my dex lmao

[digital swift]

but

i picked it

beacause i wanted to use gyarados

which overlaps with both of the other starters

[brittle minnow]

i use whatever i want, type doubles be damned

[digital swift]

my planned team

is venusaur gyarados jolteon arcanine alakazam and gengar

so

you can see why i wanna trade

[brittle minnow]

oof yeah good luck figuring it out

[brittle minnow]

i DID see someone talking about a glitch you could utilise for it? if purposeful glitching is allowed to be discussed here

[digital swift]

ooo bet

i was boutta hit up my friend he has a switch i just dont think he has the game

[digital swift]

i put in the link

the video got taken down

[brittle minnow]

DAMN

[digital swift]

WELP

reddit time

[brittle minnow]

unfortunately so 😔

[brittle minnow]

HANG ON this might be it
https://youtu.be/6XKsmZWn3GU?si=qb0cXxLhU9w1XU6q

[digital swift]

so much trouble just for a freaking alakazam bro

WAIT A MINUTE

THEY LOCKED COMPLETING THE POKEDEX

welp

let me tell you something

[brittle minnow]

HANG ON this comment might be onto something?

[digital swift]

hes talking about gba fire red

im talking bout switch fire red

they use different codes

[brittle minnow]

DAMN sorry i didn't watch that far

[digital swift]

the vid was made 2 years ago

before firered and leafgreen coming to the switch was announced

[brittle minnow]

oh. i'm dumb my bad lmao

wait how did that comment know

[digital swift]

.

TF?

i think he wasnt talking bout fire red

[brittle minnow]

did you draw this??

[split yoke]

Nope.

Found it in google search, while looking for assets for the PTU session

Thought it was cool

[brittle minnow]

hm. i see what may have been a watermark at some point edited out. as an artist that fucking angers me

PSA: credit the art you find and if you can't find the OP don't repost it

it is gorgeous work and i want to know who did it

[split yoke]

You can run a google search on the image if you want

[brittle minnow]

yeah i'm about to

i just hate how devalued art and credit is nowadays

[split yoke]

Whatever floats your boat.

[brittle minnow]

someone has edited the watermark out purposefully to obscure who made it, that's outright malicious

[brittle minnow]

i'd just have assumed a server dedicated to a massive collaborative art project would value work being credited

like, that piece very likely took several full work days worth of effort and now someone's just reuploaded it to pinterest or something with their name wiped off of it. it's gross to me

sorry, i've had my own work stolen/reposted before and it's a really violating feeling

[brittle minnow]

CREDIT FOUND, Einlee on DA, posted 2015.
https://www.deviantart.com/einlee/art/Gen-One-537652111
sure enough some asshole removed their watermark on purpose.

[green bough]

which game is this?

[supple basalt]

Pokerogue

[quasi linden]

Is endless still metal burst sash gaming?

I haven't played in a long time

[chilly jetty]

Give me a starter gen 6 and below

[supple basalt]

Probably idk I don't like endless lol

[quasi linden]

Fair lol

[digital swift]

GUYS

I DID IT

my dumbahh finally figured out how to load fire red from my switch 2 to my switch 1

and now i can get those sweet delectable TRADE EVOS

[coarse estuary]

i will never get over how much joy i get every time i watch chuggaas pokemon white lets play

[tribal canopy]

first trip thru mt moon and shiny clefairy i'm going insane rn

[tardy anchor]

FINALLY!!!!!

GOT MY FIRST WIN!!!!

[sweet crypt]

I love Salt Cure

[mystic quiver]

Wonder how many people beat their first runs with salt cure tbh.

I know of at least nine

[tardy anchor]

ahm

[sweet crypt]

My first run was a Salt Cure clear iirc

But I could be misremembering

Since that was when Pokerogue was brand new

I don't think my Fresh Start run used Salt Cure, either, iirc that run used Leech Seed

Or Curse

[mystic quiver]

I played after Alpharad, and more or less stole the salt cure strategy

[sweet crypt]

I mean tbf it's a pretty obvious strat

Since Garganacl is very easy to find

And damage over time is pretty obviously gonna be great against the behemoth with 255/250/250 bulk

[mystic quiver]

It's very funny as well because he's one of the only newer gen mons I've ever used as I've never played gen 9

[sweet crypt]

That said on my first clear I didn't even know about Eternatus

I just had Garganacl because Garganacl's just a very strong Pokemon

[mystic quiver]

True

[sweet crypt]

My first run iirc I lost to Champion Leon

[mystic quiver]

My first run didn't even make it to elite four

I got murdered by like the seventh gym lol

[sweet crypt]

My 2nd run was the Eternatus clear

I was prepared for Mega Rayquaza on 195 because base Rayquaza appeared on 145

And by prepared I mean haha Salt Cure+Rocks goes brr

Not-so-fun fact: Back then, opposing Pokemon could hold Reviver Seeds

One of my earlier runs (probably during my first 10 Classic clears if I had to guess) had Mega Ray hold a Reviver Seed

And since candies, egg moves and passives were new and candies in particular were far harder to grind... yeah, uh, it sucked a lot

Speaking of older version jank

I got a Hidden Ability Palafin

As in, on the stats screen, the ability was yellow like it was a HA

Except y'know

Palafin only has 1 Ability

This probably happened because technically, Palafin does have a HA

It's just that its HA is also Zero to Hero

[mystic quiver]

Oh f that lol

[mystic quiver]

That is so funny

That one Palafin with the "hidden ability" feeling super special

[twilit condor]

First god pack in tcg pocket

[inner nymph]

What GBA or emulator did u guys use in mobile?

Pls tell me

[delicate hollow]

Pretty sure Fire Lash was meant to be Salandit/Salazzles signature move before other Fire types can learn it (including Heatmor who is not on the Alola dex

[sweet crypt]

Except that in Gen 7, only Heatmor could learn it

So by definition, Fire Lash was Heatmor's signature move in Gen 7

Which as you've pointed out is a generation you can only get Heatmor in via trading

Which makes it a very confusing move

[tardy anchor]

I didn't even need salt cure against mega rayquaza

1 triple axel with my Mega Lucario was enough

[sweet crypt]

I mean I didn't have Mega Lucario on my 2nd run

Considering it's y'know

My 2nd run

[tardy anchor]

Hm

[sweet crypt]

Also even if I did have a Lucario, Megas were so much harder to get back then I probably wouldn't have one anyways

[tardy anchor]

Tbh this was my 5th or 6th run

[sweet crypt]

And I would not have Triple Axel

Since that's Pokerogue Egg Move Only

[tardy anchor]

Yeah its an egg move

[sweet crypt]

And Egg Moves literally did not exist back then

[tardy anchor]

Oh

[sweet crypt]

Actually I think they did?

Idk

Was very long ago

[tardy anchor]

I just completed Pokemon Relict

[sweet crypt]

I know candies didn't though

And I doubt Lucario got Taxel by egg move even if they did exist

[tardy anchor]

And I loved Arceus' backstory

[sweet crypt]

Because Release Patch Pokerogue egg moves were...

[tardy anchor]

But the ending was meh

[sweet crypt]

Yeah...

This is Baxcalibur btw

[inland crane]

Bro is not a good Samaritan😭😭🙏🙏

Bro is an evil Canaanite 🫪🫪👎👎

[sweet crypt]

And yeah no Lucario's Ice type egg move was Ice Punch

That shit is doing 2 bars max

[tardy anchor]

Like fighting Arceus ss the final boss that too with him only bring Normal type was meh

[tardy anchor]

Lol

[sweet crypt]

And then Mega Ray's gonna pull +1 Speed and +2 SpA out of its ass and OHKO you with Hurricane

[tardy anchor]

I also had ice crown on it

Idr that items exact name

But ig it was similar

[sweet crypt]

Also Mega Ray outspeeds base Lucario and if you have 0 Carboses it speed ties the Mega

Wait nvm

I think Mega is 112 Speed

Mega Ray is 115

But yeah I just stalled its ass out with Garganacl

GOATed mon

[tardy anchor]

Yeah the rayquaza did an outrage which did like 200 damage and then it got 1 hit KO

[inland crane]

Anyways gold and red are frauds, fuck alola's lack of speed, bug type is goated, good evening.

[tiny granite]

i have seen alot of gecqua hate online and that makes me sad. any other gecqua fans here? i would literally do anything for it

[brisk hedge]

#pokemon-winds-waves

[tiny granite]

oh whoops, sorry!!

[brittle minnow]

WHAT?? IT'S SUCH A GOOD DESIGN

[cloud lark]

The big issue I've seen people take issue with in regards to Gecqua is that it just feels like already tread ground. Twice over.

[coarse viper]

There was always a break in between
Frog, primarina,lizard,duck

Unlike Fire/Fighting for a bit

[brittle minnow]

@vague haven let me hear your ideas! ^^

I FOUND MY OLD NOTES

[vague haven]

Well first off a fully customizable buggy

Maybe something like mantine surf in-between primary areas in the vehicle

Ooh wait I got an idea for the pseudo legendary for that region

Base it off the death claw from fallout

[brittle minnow]

it was going to be called Pokémon: Delyrium and the morphed types were:

Normal - Ghoul/Mutant type (split into 2)
Water - Sludge type
Grass - Mould/Rot type (split into 2)
Electric - Irradiated type
Fighting - Survivor type
Flying - Swarm type
Psychic - Insanity type
Bug - Parasitic type
Dragon - Starved type
Steel - Rust type
Fairy - Hopeful/Hiding type (split into 2)

Poison, Ground, and Ghost were left unaffected. the unmentioned types i don't think i ever came up with morphs for

[vague haven]

I just realized fire isn't mentioned at all

Oh

[brittle minnow]

yeah, maybe Smog type?

[vague haven]

Scorched type

[brittle minnow]

OH NICE

[vague haven]

I like the idea that if the pokemon are strong enough willed they could continue with their original ways if life

[brittle minnow]

i was gonna make eeveelutions for the new types too, and change some of the existing eeveelutions to match their new type.

Leafeon became Sporeon, Vaporeon became Oileon, Espeon became Despaireon

[brittle minnow]

yeah maybe the goal of the game would be to cleanse all of the types

[inland crane]

Idk what you people think but I think it would be a better choice to combine some types like they do in tcg.

[brittle minnow]

i never drew anything for this EXCEPT for a Tauros redesign in which it became a Mutant type and was hypermuscular due to overuse of hormone treatment by humans. i need to find that sketch again

[brittle minnow]

well it's a post-apocalyptic world in which existing types become "corrupted" which is the entire point, sorry i didn't post the context here before

[inland crane]

I understood that

But exact 18 type to 18 type doesn't seem like the best

[brittle minnow]

also i don't play TCG 💔

[brittle minnow]

i'm also not a game programmer so this would likely remain in concept form, therefore freeing me of any obligation to make the combat balanced lmao

[sweet crypt]

Even if you did, you still don't need to worry too much unless you're planning on adding multiplayer

[brittle minnow]

i've been getting into "fake videogames" thanks to Super Eyepatch Wolf so i've just been thinking of this old concept again

[inland crane]

TCG does types like this:

I would say like make psychic and dark types become insanity for example.

[sweet crypt]

After all, the opponents can abuse the same broken shit you do anyways

And it isnt a competition vs another player

[brittle minnow]

that's kinda clever actually, i see what you mean now. so there would be overlap between types

[brittle minnow]

i thought it would be fun to make the "game" super difficult and maybe have nuzlocke elements built into it just to really rub in that you're in a post-apocalyptic setting

[brittle minnow]

oh i could just make normal and flying types into mutant and ghoul types, thank god. i don't know what past me meant by "swarm" type anyway lol

i was gonna make sludge type supereffective against flying due to oilspills,,

[sweet crypt]

Tbh Poison SE vs Flying in general isnt a very nonsensical change

Both because of that and also because of air pollution

Same with vs Water

Because water pollution

And Poison is a pretty lacking type offensively too

That said both would be broken

So only like either Water or Flying

In the context of your game though seems like the water pollution part already happened lmao

[sweet crypt]

Tbh probably Water since Water is a broken type while Flying is merely really really good

[cinder iron]

Honestly a TCG fangame where all the Eeveelutions are the TCG types would be fun

[brittle minnow]

oh i found a GOLD MINE of old notes about an idea i had for an element known as "afflictions," sort of like Pokerus where it's a semi-permanent modifier on your pokémon that affects how they fight and can be passed to other pokémon who are susceptible to it.

DISEASE EFFECTS

Irradiated (DEADLY) - an infamous affliction normally carried by the Mutant type, and passed to others by direct contact. it may also be contracted by drinking contaminated water. Irradiated slightly lowers one randomly selected EV of a pokemon after every battle and slowly, gradually depletes HP as you walk. however, their mutated appearance means other pokémon will avoid them, raising their evasiveness in battle. there is no known cure, but treatment is available to pause the effects for short periods. sometimes it goes away on its own, though this is rare. fainting to this disease will result in death. this disease is passed down through eggs, and it is recommended not to use a pokemon afflicted with Irradiated for breeding purposes.

Fungal (DEADLY) - an infection passed onto pokemon by spores produced by Mould types. it may also be contracted by drinking contaminated water. any physical attack against a Mould type can cause the attacker to breathe the spores and become infected. Fungal causes afflicted pokemon to become sluggish, drastically lowering their speed and accuracy. however, their attack and special attack doubles in power. they may also disobey commands. the pokemon will slowly deteriorate with every battle until they stop recognising their trainer entirely - this stage always results in euthenasia. however, this disease can be cured through treatment in early stages. the infection can also be prevented by giving breathing filters to your pokemon.

[vague haven]

I did have an idea on how to introduce ai ally pokemon

For example perhaps a battle against this games pseudo and having something like this games variant of aggron join in and aid the player

[brittle minnow]

Pestilent (DEADLY) - an affliction caused by Virus types. any Virus type move has a chance of inflicting this disease on the target, and is highly contagious. it may also be contracted by drinking contaminated water. any sufferer can pass the disease onto pokemon they have been in close contact with. Pestilent causes pokemon to break out in painful rashes and boils, and develop a harsh cough. this critically lowers defense and special defense. however, other pokemon will avoid touching the afflicted at all costs - evasiveness is high, and physical moves are far less likely to be used against them unless all other methods of attacking have depleted. this disease slowly drains HP, hunger, and thirst while walking. pokemon suffering from Pestilent also find it difficult to keep food down and have a high chance of regurgitating precious meals, depleting hunger even further. fainting to this disease will result in death.

Corrodia (DEADLY) - a unique disease brought about by Rust types. there is a chance for any physical attack from a Rust pokemon to afflict the target with Corrodia. it may also be contracted by drinking contaminated water. this is a blood disease that causes the muscles to cramp and spasm, lowering speed, defense, and attack. however, special attack and special defense are almost tripled in power. this disease slowly drains HP and, if left untreated, can be fatal. this disease can be prevented with vaccination.

Host (DEADLY) - this disease is caused by Parasitic types. there is a chance of this disease being inflicted on any pokemon hit by a Parasitic move. it may also be contracted by drinking contaminated water. the body of the inflicted will become a host to unwanted guests. this disease worsens over time, causing pokemon to become irritable, and then aggressive. speed and special defense are greatly raised, but the pokemon may miss turns in order to scratch at their itching skin or shake the sound of buzzing from their head. pokemon inflicted with Host may also refuse to eat or drink. in the later stages, HP is quickly drained by walking. if left untreated in the early stages, the parasites will eat their way through the pokemon, resulting in death.

[sweet crypt]

You have a lot of these huh?

[brittle minnow]

Berserker (PASSIVE) - a mental affliction caused by Survivor types. if Survivor type moves such as "uproar" or "insighting action" are used on a pokemon, they have a chance of developing Berserker. this disease causes attack, special attack and speed to drastically increase. however, defense and special defence are halved. afflicted pokemon also become reckless and may hurt themselves when attacking. this affliction can be cured by feeding pokemon or tranquilising them. while Berserker may harm the afflicted and their trainer in various ways, there are no known instances of death caused by it.

Delyrium/Hysteria (PASSIVE/DEADLY) - the two stages of a mental disorder both inflicted by and suffered by Desolate types. the affliction begins as Delyrium. sufferers become hyperaware of their situation and become depressed, melancholy, and paranoid. this lowers attack and speed, but heightens defense. pokemon may also become confused mid-battle and hurt themselves. if left untreated, Delyrium will develop into Hysteria. the paranoia becomes overwhelming and pokemon will all but cease listening to their trainers orders. attack and special attack triple. without fail, sufferers become confused upon entering battle and, if they faint to their own attack, this will result in death.

[brittle minnow]

yeah my notes are full of old ideas lol

[vague haven]

Honestly I'm happy that in this golurk is getting the love they deserve

[sweet crypt]

Irradiated is so broken

I hate Evasion

[brittle minnow]

Lost/Hopeless/Giving Up (PASSIVE/PASSIVE/DEADLY) - three stages of a mental illness caused by Husk types. being hit by a Husk type move has a chance of inflicting Lost on a pokemon. Lost causes pokemon to become weary and unsure of what they're fighting for anymore. this slightly lowers attack but boosts special attack. Lost is easily cured but can develop into Hopeless at any time. Hopeless causes sufferers to lose hope in their cause. their speed and defense lowers and special attack raises again. pokemon suffering with Hopeless also have a chance to refuse food and go hungry. Giving Up is the final stage of this illness and the most dangerous. pokemon decide there is nothing left to fight for and will cease attacking in battle, though status moves may still be used. however, the attack and defense of the rest of your team is raised for the duration of the battle, as they become protective of their own. pokemon afflicted with Giving Up will entirely refuse any food or water offered to them - but your other team members will become more vigilant in finding food, out of concern for their own. this stage is incredibly hard to cure and if a pokemon inflicted with Giving Up faints for any reason (starvation, thirst, battle, etc.) they will pass away.

Ravenous (DEADLY) - a particularly nasty affliction suffered by all wild Starved types. these pokemon have gone so long without proper sustenance that they have lost their minds. their attack, special attack, and speed are drastically raised. however, their hunger depletes extremely quickly. feeding a Starved pokemon to full hunger will stifle the effects of Ravenous for a while - however, as soon as their hunger depletes, the symptoms re-emerge. rehabilitating wild Starved types and eventually curing them of their affliction is a very long and notoriously difficult process. most who attempt to train a Starved type end up eaten alive or surrendering the pokemon for euthenasia.

[sweet crypt]

Evasion is so broken

[vague haven]

And I'm assuming the starter types would be immune to these statuses?

[brittle minnow]

ah i think Husk type is what Psychic was gonna be called

[vague haven]

Or at least a few

[brittle minnow]

yeah just so it's not too unfair lol, they get all their vaxxes in the vault bc they're too important to lose to disease

[vague haven]

What would be cool is if the player had a golurk themed buggy due to how important they are

[brittle minnow]

oh sick actually..

[sweet crypt]

Berserker's also lowkey broken as shit

+3 Attack/SpA +3 Speed for free holy shit

[vague haven]

Though I had a thought about what the legendaries would be like would they be immune to these statuses

[sweet crypt]

Who cares if your Defence and SpD are at -2 who's surviving long enoigh to abuse that?

Everyone gets outsped and one tapped

[vague haven]

WAIT I HAD AN IDEA

[brittle minnow]

i told you i'm not a game programmer,, also i wrote these 5 years ago 😭

[vague haven]

You know how koraidon and miraidon were given to the player at the start of the game but they could only be used in battle near the end

[brittle minnow]

yeah i like that idea a lot

[vague haven]

That but celebi

So you would undo what happened to cause this apocalypse in the first place

[sweet crypt]

Tbh most of the complex stuff I have as ideas for Pokemon games are like

Reserved for legendaries and shit

[vague haven]

And maybe instead of gym leaders they are refered to as catalysts

[sweet crypt]

Like one that causes a weather effect that is heavily inspired by the worst mass extinction in history

Which is a bit clusterfucked in terms of effects

But I mean what would you expect when I'm basing it off an event literally called The Great Dying

[brittle minnow]

that's so sick actually

[vague haven]

Honestly I love how we are all coming up with cool ideas for this

[sweet crypt]

I also have a very high amount of Ultra Beasts

[vague haven]

Ooh wait rogue megas could be in this

Rouge whatever

[sweet crypt]

And have added secondary abilities for UBs that requires you to fulfil a certain condition

[brittle minnow]

i'm really flattered you like my idea tbh and i really appreciate your suggestions!

[west gale]

Saw a post online that says after beating the elite four in FRLG on switch, you will automatically get mystic and Aurora ticket which lets you catch Lugia, Hooh and deoxys

That’s neat

[vague haven]

Yeah that is honestly a good way to save time

[sweet crypt]

But yeah the main reason I don't add complex stuff too much is because my brain sure as hell isn't able to comprehend that shit on the regular

Heck as soon as a type chart is changed or even a single new type is added I become 50 times worse

[vague haven]

Another Mon I think would be very important if kept safe is torterra due to it in theory being able to grow food

[sweet crypt]

Because I'm very reliant on memorising the type chart

And am not used to not knowing it whatsoever

[vague haven]

Or aggron due to them being more of a nature first Mon than their design let's on

[brittle minnow]

yeah ground type specifically is really precious because the population takes its lack of corruption as a sign that the world isn't beyond saving, the soil hasn't gone bad yet

[sweet crypt]

I mean, I've known the type chart for like, almost a decade by now?

[vague haven]

Yeah the last time a new type was added was in x and y

[sweet crypt]

So not knowing it really throws me off

Also, most new types are extremely stupid in concept

Like c'mon the fuck you mean Sound type there's sound moves from like 12 different types

[vague haven]

True

[sweet crypt]

Light type is also stupid because like

[vague haven]

That's just fairy and electric in one

[sweet crypt]

Well I guess Kyogre's signature move isn't STAB anymore

Yippee!

Iron Boulder losing its 100% accurate Rock move:

[vague haven]

Why would origin pulse be a light type move

[sweet crypt]

Because it is literally a light-based move

[mortal relic]

I think sound type is more plausible because of the amount of sound based moves granted i dont want a sound type. But it'd make sense ig?

[vague haven]

Photon gyser id get but I thought it was beams of water

[sweet crypt]

"The user attacks opposing Pokémon with countless beams of light that glow a deep and brilliant blue."

[mortal relic]

Also isnt origin pulse just a water beam attack?

Its described as a beam of light,??

[vague haven]

Honestly all of necrozmas moves id get

[sweet crypt]

Let me get my list of light moves real quick

[mortal relic]

But yeah fairy IS the light type. Like common we dont need that

But I wouldn't hate another new type if it was done well

[vague haven]

I would love another steel esque type

To where it's another mainly defensive type

[sweet crypt]

Yo the list was so long I got muted lmaooo

Yeah no there's a lot of light based moves

And they span across even more types than the sound ones

[vague haven]

I think all of the energy ball moves would count there

[sweet crypt]

I mean, we already have 4 types that are solid defensively but poor offensively

Bug, Grass, Poison and Steel

All 4 of these are decent-amazing defensively

But bad-horrid offensively

[vague haven]

Grass and bug are questionable at best

[sweet crypt]

Idk, there's quite a high number of types that allow Bug and Grass to be actually great defensively

Sure as hell 50 times better than like

Psychic

Lmao

[vague haven]

To be fair psychic needed a handicap after gen 1

[sweet crypt]

Psychic is so ass imagine being on the same level as Rock and Ice defensively

And then you arent even good offensively

Actually just fucking clown ass type

Well ig Ice is too low

Rock probably isn't though

[vague haven]

Honestly an ice type buff would be nice

[cloud lark]

Light being a subtype like Sound or Cutting would be cool, just need some abilities to interact with it

[sweet crypt]

And both Ice and Rock are genuinely absurd offensive types

So them being defensively ass makes sense

Why is Psychic defensively ass

[vague haven]

I feel like it's the mons themselves that make rock and ice good offensively

[sweet crypt]

It definitely isn't

Ice and Rock are both infamous for being glass cannon types with almost entirely defensive lineups

[cloud lark]

Imagine Chien-Pao as a Bug type or something. Would be way less powerful.

[sweet crypt]

Who made Avalugg

[vague haven]

Aggron still is MVP in the physical defense department

[sweet crypt]

And he's still shit

Because Rock type

[cloud lark]

Unless it gets punched in the face

[sweet crypt]

Rock is so ass defensively

Rock, Ice and Psychic genuinely have 0 type where they carry their weight defensively

At best maybe they break even slightly

It's actually insane

[vague haven]

Now you give aggron body press in something like trick room and that's a whole different ball game

[cloud lark]

The closest we've gotten to Rock type Pokémon being useful offensively is Mega Diancie and Iron Boulder. And Iron Boulder was screwed over by being Psychic.

[sweet crypt]

Better idea: Use something actually good maybe?

[vague haven]

I like aggron

[sweet crypt]

Heck, fucking mega evolve Aggron actually

Genuinely dropping the Rock type is the biggest buff Mega Aggron gets

[cloud lark]

Rock itself is a good offense type. But there's basically no good offensive rock types.

[sweet crypt]

It's almost funny

[cloud lark]

Tyranitar is a good Rock type. But let's be real it's in spite of being Rock.

[sweet crypt]

I wonder what type Gamefreak did the most dirty?

I mean there's Psychic and Normal being nerfed into oblivion

Rock and Ice being almost exclusively used the wrong way

Electric types genuinely having negative amounts of coverage

Like holy shit get a coverage move

Literally the worst type in Competitive Monotype btw

Because Gamefreak just won't give these mfs coverage

[cloud lark]

I vote Bug. Bug is a type almost exclusively populated by early route bums. Stuff like Volcarona and Scizor are exceptions.

[sweet crypt]

That's a good one too

[vague haven]

Honestly I'm more curious about what types that got stronger with every passing generation

[sweet crypt]

Oh also not to mention Electric types having to pick between fucking

[cloud lark]

Ground and Steel, also Fire IMO

[sweet crypt]

Electric Take Down and Electric Jump Kick for physical moves

Like are we fr

[cloud lark]

Fighting also went from awful in Gen 1 to a near ubiquitous offensive presence it is today

[vague haven]

Honestly ground was kinda always at least a decent type

[sweet crypt]

I'm going insane I called the STABs coverage it's so crazy

Tbf

Ice has been getting better in a way

Because of direct reasons like Heavy Duty Boots

[cloud lark]

Aurora Veil was huge for Ice. Snow too.

[vague haven]

Every buff to ice or ground is a buff to mamoswine

[sweet crypt]

And also because Gamefreak finally started making offensive Ice types

Bax, Bundle and Chien-Pao in the same generation

[vague haven]

The only shiny alpha pokemon I've ever gotten

[cloud lark]

A.Ninetales is one of the best Ice types almost exclusively cause it has Snow Warning and Aurora Veil

[vague haven]

Lapras is pretty decent at least in regards to setup or on skill swap no guard teams

[sweet crypt]

Gamefreak has also definitely done Bug types more justice as the generations passed

[vague haven]

Definitely

[sweet crypt]

Scizor got massive buffs

Then Volcarona was made

[vague haven]

Honestly gen 5 was a good generation for bug types

[sweet crypt]

And Genesect too

[cloud lark]

Kleavor was almost good

Almost

[sweet crypt]

And then Gen 6 brought genuinely one of the 2 biggest glowups of a Mega to Mega Beedrill

[vague haven]

Volcarona, galvantula, and genesect are all pretty decent if not great

[sweet crypt]

(Pidgeot is the other, holy shit base Pidgeot is ass)

Actually 2 of the 3

Mega Pinsir's also the GOAT

[vague haven]

Mega heracross hours

[sweet crypt]

Then Gen 7 came along and brought the 2 UBs

As well as 2 amazing Sticky Webbers

[cloud lark]

Lokix is one of my favorite bugs purely because it takes the early route bug BST and combines it with solid distribution and an amazing ability to become really solid. Not often a sub-500 BST finds viability to the extent that Lokix did

[sweet crypt]

And Golisopod who manages to do well even with that shitty ability

And then Gen 8 kinda did nothing for the Bug type so we ignore it and look at Lokix in Gen 9 instead

I guess Kleavor exists now actually

[cloud lark]

Kleavor is just ok

Stone Axe looks like a better move than it ended up being

[sweet crypt]

I wonder what tier Golisopod would be without Emergency Exit

Because even without it this mf was hitting UU and RU

[vague haven]

Probably whatever mega golisopod is gonna be

[sweet crypt]

I mean I think it was in UU at least once

Idk

[cloud lark]

Lord I wish Emergency Exit only applied at the end of the turn. Such a small change that would make it so much better

[sweet crypt]

But still RU's pretty neat

[vague haven]

Genuinely

[sweet crypt]

And tbf it isn't hard to see why Golisopod's stats are fucking bonkers

[vague haven]

And to too it off it has a badass design

[cloud lark]

Mega Golisopod being a Bug/Steel that Fire types can't feel safe switching in on is huge for it.

[vague haven]

I'm hoping they somehow find a way to give it water bubble just to give it 3 type stab because it would be funny

[cloud lark]

Water Bubble is way too excessive. It's almost like handing it Huge Power

[vague haven]

And also to turn it from a 4x weakness to a 2x

God trick room mega golisopod is gonna be insane

[cloud lark]

Plot twist: Gamefreak gives it Strategic Retreat, which makes it switch out every fourth of HP it loses

[sweet crypt]

They should give Araquanid Wave Crash

[vague haven]

And it keeps stat changes upon switching out this way

[sweet crypt]

Because that'd make it hit harder than Dascent Mega Ray

And that's hilarious

[vague haven]

Honestly I'm really hoping that gen 10 keeps buffing bug types

[sweet crypt]

252+ Atk Choice Band Rayquaza-Mega Dragon Ascent vs. 252 HP / 96 Def Mew: 375-442 (92.8 - 109.4%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Water Bubble Araquanid Wave Crash vs. 252 HP / 96 Def Mew: 390-459 (96.5 - 113.6%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

[vague haven]

Dear god

[cloud lark]

I would pray for more good Ice types in Gen 10, but it's clearly a tropical region so that's most certainly not happening

[vague haven]

I mean alola had a good one so there's still hope

[lyric basin]

Tired of the weird economy, so i'm writing a game where you start as a peasant boy with no money and a singular pokemon, a dog you found in a ditch

[sweet crypt]

Can you give the player a choice to start with a cat they found in a ditch as well?

[lyric basin]

i could implement that

it's gonna take place in a region inspired by the Benelux, and the story will be loosely based on the novel A dog in Flanders (so prepare tissues)

[cloud lark]

Wouldn't be a story revolving around a dog without it getting tragic at some point.

Cause seriously, almost every single dog related story I've seen gets sad at some point.

[supple basalt]

You should do a choice of Cat, Dog, or Snake

Meowth, Rockruff, or Ekans

:P

[cloud lark]

Subscription for more pc space? That's vile

[sweet crypt]

It is

But unfortunately not new

They did the same shit for HOME

[cloud lark]

With how volatile the meta can be, you would want to have plenty of space for different mons to mess with. At least with HOME you can argue you can use it as a transitory storage between games, you definitely want your Champions teams in one space

[sweet crypt]

Yeah it sucks ass

But I can't say I was hyped about Champions in the first place

[cloud lark]

All this for a service that's probably just gonna be a worse Showdown cause Gamefreak has already demonstrated their opposition towards bans

[sweet crypt]

Considering the main system of gaining points by winning

That you need to even get EVs

Like that shit sounds so ass

[cloud lark]

Battle Revolution this service shan't be

[cloud lark]

So they're walking back the conveniences implemented towards making EV training not a chore? Amazing. Enshittification has come for Pokémon batting too.

[sweet crypt]

Champions is going absolutely nowhere lmao

[brittle minnow]

i'm forever glad i never got into competetive lmao

[sweet crypt]

I'll be perfectly fine since I don't even have online so all my EV training purposes are for stomping the story even easier than before

[brittle minnow]

i feel so bad for y'all

[sweet crypt]

And I play Competitive on Showdown

So this has 0 impact on anything I do

[brittle minnow]

that's fair

[cloud lark]

I'm so scared that Nintendo will C&D Showdown to give Champions a captive audience

[brittle minnow]

still, people wanting to actually play mainline competetive keep getting shafted

[sweet crypt]

I'm sure it'll be fine

[brittle minnow]

i'm shocked it hasn't happened yet tbh

[sweet crypt]

Nintendo isn't stupid

They know shutting Showdown down is just shooting themselves in the foot

Because it's the easiest way to draw attention to Competitive

And with how Champions is looking like it'll turn out, it'll continue to remain that way

[ruby marlin]

I love how champions is to make competitive easier (so you don't have to have all games) but it will virtually change nothing/barely anything so people will still continue to do so

[sweet crypt]

If anything it makes competitive harder

Well it does bring 1 thing of value

The abilities of the ZA Megas

My Singles ass is gonna be enjoying this Levitate Mega Delphox

[cloud lark]

I've seen so many conflicting opinions on that ability lol

So many people are mad about no PsySpam on it cause of that

[sweet crypt]

It's literally just Doubles vs Singles lmao

Worse for Doubles because no more Psyspam and Ground isn't as prevalent

Better for Singles because it's a fucking Ground immunity on a Fire type

And Psyspam isn't really common in Singles

And Spikes immunity too

And Tspikes

And Webs

Avoiding as much extra chip as possible is nice when you're a Fire type

And avoiding Webs is critical for a fast frail attacker like Mega Delphox

[cloud lark]

Psyspam will probably have Mega Meowstic as a good rep for it anyway unless they give it Levitate too

[sweet crypt]

Mega Meowstic?

Bro we have Mega Alakazam

We're gonna be spamming Eforce to hell with that

Well, "we"

Doubles players will

Nasty Plot Megazam is so getting banned from OU

As is Shell Smash MBlastoise, probably Shell Smash MBarbaracle too

And Encore Mgengar is probably just AG tbh

[cloud lark]

What fascinates me is which of the new Flying/Fighting type Megas between Hawlucha and Staraptor will be better. I would say M.Hawlucha has slightly better stats, but Staraptor starting with Intimidate is a pretty big bonus

[sweet crypt]

It really comes down to abilities

Also it's really funny to me that Staraptor got a Flying/Fighting Mega in ZA

Because it feels like Staraptor looked at Flamigo literally stealing its job

And leaving it as a worthless Pokemon

And went

"Y'know what? FUCK you Flamigo"

[lyric basin]

Is Pokemon Relict any good?

Or are those other games better, Reminiscencia and Realidea System?

[sweet crypt]

I dont know much about them

But I had a friend who really liked Realidea

And said that it was easily their favourite fangame

[sweet crypt]

Friendly reminder that even with all the batshit insane moveset additions in ZA

Like the 50 million new moves on Meowstic-M

Or Ice Beam+Earth Power Keldeo

Or Psychic Fangs Poopa Unwiped

Or Parting Shot Msableye

Or SD Mega Lopunny

They have still not given MMX CC, Superpower, HJK or even Hammer Arm

[lyric basin]

been playing for 5 minutes, already in love with this little guy

i also love how half of the game isnt even translated from Spanish lmao

[ruby marlin]

Got my Garchompite z, I don’t think this was worth being the final mega

[inland crane]

Pokemon really scared of reworking pokemon or what?

Like yeah we wouldn't raid places if Raichu or Nido duo had useable stats in Switch/Switch2 era

[sweet crypt]

Tbf Nido Duo are actually good

... with their Hidden Ability

Which is a Hidden Ability

[radiant patrol]

is there a place in the game where its easier to get other generation pokemon

[coarse estuary]

what game?

[radiant patrol]

infintie fusion

oh wait

this isn't guide help

mb

[coarse estuary]

wrong channel if its inifnite fusion help u want

[frank lily]

Pancham & Eevee were day 1. Skiddo is also an XXL

[green bough]

Hi, can anyone suggest me a pokemon game with more storyline I can play on PC? thanks

[supple basalt]

Insurgence, Reborn, Rejuvination

Pokemon Mystery Dungeon (Need Emulator for that)

XD

[green bough]

ayt thanks!

[quasi linden]

+1 for insurgence

[untold hill]

Xenoverse

Opalo

Infinity

[stray heart]

Is there a rule on Z-A spoilers here?

[split yoke]

Oh. Looks like Pokemon Unite has gone into Maintenance Mode. Even after putting in p2w stat tokens, they just couldn't keep up the infinite money printer to keep it going. Such is the life of a "live service" game.

[split yoke]

Uranium!

[coarse estuary]

well considering za is released nothing would be a spoiler for it if you mean winds and wave we got a channel for that

[inland crane]

I mean it still gets/got new stuff

Like 'chomp z

Anyways all special and status learnt by Garchomp in ZA

[coarse estuary]

yeah but imo its only a spoiler if its something about a game that is from a recently released dlc/traler or a leak. i wouldnt say something that is neither of those things is a spoiler

[surreal palm]

PRAISE HELIX

[coarse estuary]

lol people are acting like its the first time

[cloud lark]

Twitch Plays Pokémon reference in '26, huh?

[tardy anchor]

GGz first shiny Legendary

[uncut oracle]

never too late to convert and repent

[mystic dawn]

Hey, I know I should ask the Joiplay Discord, but it seemed pretty dead when I asked there. Anyway, I found a new fan game on Twitter and downloaded it. Why does this happen? I had the same problem with Rebirth

There's stuff, but no map

[crystal marsh]

You have to use the Joiplay map conversion patch

[mystic dawn]

How do I do that? I don't have this problem with Infinite Fusion, Uranium, or Rejuvenation

I mean, Uranium is slow and kinda laggy, but there's a map

[delicate hollow]

I wish Pokemon rom hacks or fan games would raise the max level from 100 to 200

[crystal marsh]

https://www.patreon.com/posts/mapconverter-1-36096923

Download this and put it in the folder with the game. Then use the exe program and allow it to convert the maps. Afterwards, get the files in the Patch folder and replace the maps with it

The reason this happens is cause the fangame you have may not be supporting Mobile

[mystic dawn]

When asked in a comment, the creator said that it should work on mobile with Joiplay, which is why I downloaded it. But I'll try this out

[mystic dawn]

It's not letting me. I tap on it, it takes me to Joiplay, acts like I'm adding a game only to say 'this game type is not supported'

[crystal marsh]

Hmmm I'm unsure why in that case. Sorry

[inland crane]

try to regenerate maps?

[mystic dawn]

How do I do that?

[inland crane]

Hold the game icon and there should be optimize game maps option

[mystic dawn]

I'll try it out

Do I do anything in the files before I launch it?

[untold hill]

Some do

[coarse estuary]

goated reference by me. im playing a heart gold hack called pokemon ok version and i named my player KO. baller if you get the reference

[untold hill]

Ok K.O?

[coarse estuary]

yeah referencing the old cartoon network show

[hard plume]

The abilities for some of the new megas got uncovered

[coarse estuary]

good. all the kalos megas have good abilities (woulda cried if mega fox got magician)

[sweet crypt]

I heard VGC players are complaining about Delphox getting Levitate

Because now it doesn't just make the game miserable to play

And spam Eforce and Heat Wave all game

By I heard I mean I've literally seen it

In fact even in a server about a Singles format I saw 0 people talking about it being amazing for Singles

It's a bit bizarre

[coarse estuary]

thats so dumb like bro what just because yall cant run the same 4 mons every game means vgc is in shambles what?

[unkempt linden]

Fuckkk Delphox got levitate

I can’t spam expanding force now

Lowk would’ve been fun to use, bad to play against

[sweet crypt]

Like clockwork

But yeah once again as a Singles player, I really like Levitate here

For obvious reasons

Mega Delphox is in position to become a top OU Mega

[unkempt linden]

Oh yeah 100%

levitate on any fire types is good

[sweet crypt]

In fact a lot of ZA Megas are kinda batshit crazy

[unkempt linden]

mega dragonite

[sweet crypt]

Nah its fine it doesn't just lean in on being an Espeed spamming bastard

[unkempt linden]

If mega golisopod doesn’t get emergency exit, it will be a beast in double

The stats are insane

[serene edge]

Hello y'all, can someone help me with the ZA dex pls? I need to evolve swirlix spritzee and scyther but i dont know who to ask for help

[coarse estuary]

i might be able to help later if you got online payed for

[mystic dawn]

I did the 'optimise map' thing and I think it made my problem worse. First pic is before and second is after

Actually, nvm. I think I'll just uninstall

[serene edge]

I got the free trial thing redeemed

Ping me or send me a dm when you are up to

[supple basalt]

Your phone may be incompatible with that specific game

[mystic dawn]

I think I did something wrong when I did the Optimise Map thing, there was a folder named Patch. I tried transferring what was in it, but got annoyed and decided to uninstall

But maybe I'll reinstall and try again idk

[uncut oracle]

hey, wanna know a funny fact about ORAS

wait nvm it wasn't oras it was sm

still a funny thing

ok so there's this feature in sun and moon called "wonder qr codes" where you scan specific qr codes and it registers a pokemon into your dex that can't be found in alola

problem is this works on literally any qr code ever

i had a friend over who scanned the codes on the back of some of my yo-kai watch medals and they actually worked and got registered as random pokemon

i still have my old yo-kai medal collection so if anyone wants to play with that hmu

[cinder iron]

An unfun fact about ORAS is that ORAS carts can die as a result of file corruption
The good news tho is that there are third-party homebrew tools to deal with it

[delicate hollow]

Wishing you HM 04?
Strength or Fly?
And don't you mean wishing you "luck"? Because there is no such thing as a HM called Luck in these games before HMs were removed in later gens

[unkempt linden]

Omg cool reference!

[mighty robin]

Fire, Fire, Fire, Water, Water, Grass, Fire (1st playthrough), Grass (2nd playthrough), Grass (1st playthrough), Fire (2nd playthrough)

https://preview.redd.it/9ja74z5v2q351.png?auto=webp&s=549ebb2423a2a704f8d98e670b316de61ea52c86

tho I think the first pokemon game I played was in Gen 4

[pearl cedar]

Hello, would anyone know of any emulator for Pokémon X and Y? 😄

[serene shuttle]

Hey Im super close to finishing my dex! I just need a few more and if someone can just do a trade then I trade it back to you that would be awesome!
-aromatisse
-slurpuff
-slowking
-scizor
-steelix
-espeon
-umbreon
-sylveon

I’ll trade shinys so you know I’ll give them back

[cloud lark]

?tag rule6

[ebon pond]

Make sure to follow the #rules!

Rule 6 DISALLOWED CONTENT: Resources to illegal content (ROMs, pirated movies, etc). We are sure that there are ways and means of finding these that do not involve a Pokémon Fan Game discord server.

[broken temple]

emulator it self is not illegal

we cant share roms

[inland crane]

Azahar is still up

[hard plume]

the types I picked for each gen were:
gen 1: n/a. couldn't remember
gen 2: chikorita (I picked it in Pokemon Legends ZA, so I'm not sure if it counts or not)
gen 3: torchic
gen 4: piplup
gen 5: oshawatt
gen 6: fennekin (though if I ever had to go back in time, I would've picked chespin or froakie)
gen 7: litten
gen 8: sobble (second playthrough was scorbunny)
gen 9: quaxly

[mighty robin]

I just went with what I picked whenever I got that option

I think you get the kanto starters in the Kalos games?

I started with gen iv

[safe jacinth]

is there any other fan games that r unique like pif ?

[untold hill]

Most fangames I've seen and played don't even follow the story of any mainline games so, I'd assume the majority of fangames out there r unique

[tardy anchor]

You can try Pokemon Relict

I love it's story but the ending I think was pretty lack luster

[untold hill]

Yeah, I wanted to explore more of it as well

[tardy anchor]

Or you can always play Pokerogue like yeeeeeah

[safe jacinth]

yeah but like mechanics wise

like infinite has fusions

[untold hill]

Pokerogue has a story?

[tardy anchor]

Little bit but yeah it does

It's mainly narrated by our Rival

[tardy anchor]

You can try Pokemon Infinity it has like 100+ fakemons or Pokemon Uranium

[safe jacinth]

mhm

i'll see

[untold hill]

I liked Relict for its story tbh

Pokerogue is all battling

[coarse viper]

Eternatus stucks you in an eternal time loop where you fight him over and over untill you succeed

[tardy anchor]

The Arceus' story is really good

But the ending was meh

😕

[untold hill]

Also, the time I tried it. I got sweeped by a rayquaza on some floor I don't remember

[safe jacinth]

maybe i'll go play minecraft

idk

[untold hill]

Yeah

[tardy anchor]

Was it mega or not?

[coarse viper]

The ending of Relict is very god like tbh so it makes sense

Plus I feel like making Giratina the villain is kinda overdone

[untold hill]

Insurgence, Xenoverse, Infinity, Opalo, Uranium, Unbreakable Ties, Vanguard r great games

[untold hill]

I think it wasn't

[tardy anchor]

Idk fighting Arceus cause he was bored and it was all his "masterplan" is kinda boring

[safe jacinth]

lemme copy paste dat

[tardy anchor]

Also it could have been better if the Arceus kept changing its type every time it was going to heal

[coarse viper]

Its pretty on brand for Pokemon legendary and Mythicals tbh
Most of the time they throw a fade because they can and want to

[tardy anchor]

That way his plates could be used which we collected throughout the tower

Cause in my fight I just used my Mega Blaziken which completely destroyed the Arceus

[untold hill]

I was trying to use my Mega Charizard but it worked once and after that the game had some bugs which didn't let me mega evolve

[tardy anchor]

Yeah then it was floor 145

2nd last Rival fight

[untold hill]

Probs

[coarse viper]

Yeah he remains normal type which is a bit boring
I just assume they didnt want to put a Pokerogue and do an eternatus where you need specific teams to win

[tardy anchor]

After that you fight her at 195 ig where she got Mega Rayquaza with 4 health bars

[tardy anchor]

Na if it kept changing types then it would have been fun and people would actually need to switch out their mons

Instead of just humiliating it

[tardy anchor]

Huh that's wierd

You should try Lucario and Naganadel, I remember those were my first 2 starters when I completed the game

[untold hill]

The game's got a lot of bugs tbh. This was the only one I encountered thankfully

[tardy anchor]

Idk I haven't faced many tbh

[untold hill]

I had a Skeledirge, Greninja, and idk the rest of my team

[tardy anchor]

I had Mega Lucario which completely humiliated the Mega Rayquaza with a Triple Axel

1 hit KO

[tardy anchor]

You should try Garganacl with salt cure

It's like the most common strat to complete this game

During the eternatus fight that 1/8th hp loss every turn would be huge

[sweet crypt]

Tbh Eternatus is one of the less troublesome bosses in Pokerogue

I always worry more about 165 and 195

[tardy anchor]

What's on 165?

Idr it

[sweet crypt]

Evil Team Leader 2

[tardy anchor]

Oooh yeah

I had Team Flame

[sweet crypt]

Especially if they get a good MU vs you

[tardy anchor]

It was a pretty easy fight

[sweet crypt]

Maxie and Rose in particular love showing up as soon as my team struggles vs them

Rose's Gmax Copperajah is a fucking bitch

And I hope it dies a painful death

If they add multiple final bosses to Pokerogue it'd be so weird

Because like

0 Pokemon are on par with Eternamax

Everything is at least 5 orders of magnitude less broken

It's just that since it's the only Pokemon you fight at 200, it's easy

You always know it's there and can't switch out to anything else

[tardy anchor]

Have you played Pokemon Infinity?

[sweet crypt]

I have not

[tardy anchor]

Imagine they add a second boss which is a type Null Arceus which resist everything and hits every typing for neutral damage

💀

[sweet crypt]

Still falls too easily to Garganacl

If it hits everything for Neutral, it can't break bulky Pokemon

[tardy anchor]

Aaah I forgot this beast

[sweet crypt]

Y'know what would be funny?

[tardy anchor]

Exists

[sweet crypt]

Legend Plate Arceus with an Omniboost

[tardy anchor]

☠️

[sweet crypt]

Other ideas I have are 4 Phase Necrozma where each phase has at least 1 Omniboost

And uhh

Nevermind that's my only other idea

I guess stat boosts may have too big of an effect

Maybe they should just be over level 200

[tardy anchor]

Maybe Mega Zygarde with some busted unfair power up?

[tardy anchor]

Endless mode exists

[sweet crypt]

OK but I'm thinking of final bosses for Classic

Necrozma could be Level 250

That way, Unec has comparable stats to Eternamax

[tardy anchor]

I see

[sweet crypt]

Just with inverted offensive and defensive stats, and a more evened out HP and Speed

Legend Plate Arceus probably also works fine at 250

[tardy anchor]

Does the new typing of Judgement change if we switch out the pokemon when the move was already selected?

[sweet crypt]

It changes when the move is used

So yes

[tardy anchor]

So like I cannot bait it out?

[sweet crypt]

Judgement will always deal SE damage unless you're Levitate Eelektross or some shit

[tardy anchor]

Like make it use a poison type judgement then switch in a steel type

[sweet crypt]

And Arceus has like 3 other moveslots

[sweet crypt]

You'd switch into the Steel type first, then Arceus would use Judgement

[tardy anchor]

Oh I see

[lyric basin]

fun fact: the game files of Realidea System contain a single .png image of Ricardo Milos

[rich tundra]

Id Delete That Fun Fact

[untold hill]

No clue who that is

[rich tundra]

Uh,

Adult Model,

[untold hill]

Eww

[rich tundra]

He became a meme

[lyric basin]

update: Dio is also there. And Tyrion Lannister, for some odd reason

[rich tundra]

Well why wouldn't they be