other-pokemon-games

[sweet crypt]

Yup

OK, so, Step 1

You need to beat Cynthia

[supple basalt]

Of course so the main reason to want it is already beaten

[sweet crypt]

And unlock the National Dex

So basically, 99% of people already will have quit

[supple basalt]

BDSP does a lot of stupid shit though so not surprised

[sweet crypt]

Then, you need to catch a Shellder with a Super Rod

[supple basalt]

There is literally no reason to go through the hassle after you beat the league and complete the dex

😂

[sweet crypt]

The Super Rod is also postgame

[supple basalt]

I did not know that

[sweet crypt]

Once you get your Shellder, you'll want to find a Water Stone

Evolve it into a Cloyster

Once you do, take a Heart Scale to the Move Relearner and teach Cloyster Icicle Crash

This is Step 1

So, why do we need a Cloyster, specifically?

Well, simple

It is the ONLY POKEMON in BDSP that learns Icicle Crash outside of egg moves and 1 other exception

However, Cloyster cannot breed with Mamoswine or Weavile, they don't share egg groups

So here's Step 2

You're going to want to head to Route 212

Use the Pokeradar to seek out a Smeargle

But don't settle for any Smeargle, it needs to be Male

If you haven't guessed, you need Sketch Smeargle here, as it is the only way to get Icicle Crash on a Pokemon that is in the same egg group as Mamoswine or Weavile

And ofc, it needs to be Male, so that you don't just get a bunch of Smeargle Eggs

Once you get this Smeargle, you need to enter a Double Battle with Cloyster and Smeargle, and Sketch Cloyster's Icicle Crash without having either die

This late into the game, you may have already beaten the low level double battles

And Smeargle has poor bulk, as does Cloyster in terms of special bulk

So uhh

Good luck!

Finally, after sketching Icicle Crash with Smeargle, you can now breed Icicle Crash onto Swinubs and Sneasels

This shit so ass 💔

[coarse viper]

i feel like i read a fever dream

[sweet crypt]

I mean

It's technically better than Diamond, Pearl and Platinum in this regard

But let's be honest to ourselves

Is ANYONE playing BDSP gonna bother going through all of that just to be able to use Icicle Crash on their Mamoswines and Weaviles after beating the game?

[coarse viper]

i mean if you want me to be honest no lol

[sweet crypt]

Exactly

No sane person is doing all that for BDSP's postgame

[coarse viper]

i can see Kegan doing that outside of him not really anyone

[sweet crypt]

Oh by the way

This isn't the only egg move that either needs Smeargle to get

Mamoswine needs it to get Icicle Spear

And Weavile needs it to get Ice Punch and Throat Chop

Throat Chop is Weavile's best Dark STAB in BDSP btw

Both of Weavile's best STABs require you to fucking sketch them with Smeargle and breed them onto it

[coarse viper]

i can't help but feel something like that is purposefully made to be bad

[sweet crypt]

Also the only Pokemon that learns Throat Chop naturally in BDSP is Heracross

Have fun with those 5% honey trees!

[halcyon heath]

hi guys i want to try Pokémon nuzlock emerald randomize, but i can't find anything.

where can i find those game ?

[broken temple]

you should find a rom your self and randomize it your self using the universal randomizer program

we cant give you rom or tell you where to download it

[halcyon heath]

can i ask why you cant tell me ?

[untold hill]

?tag rule6

[ebon pond]

Make sure to follow the #rules!

Rule 6 DISALLOWED CONTENT: Resources to illegal content (ROMs, pirated movies, etc). We are sure that there are ways and means of finding these that do not involve a Pokémon Fan Game discord server.

[broken temple]

i was lookin for the right rule

you beat me to it

[untold hill]

[halcyon heath]

okay im appreciate. thank you

[rugged shadow]

LETS GO

FIRST EVER NON-HACKED SHINY

Im so excited dude

[broken temple]

and its a bunny

https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-797109095501667511

[coarse estuary]

w chad

[lavish dune]

I desperately need to stop underestimating early gym leaders

[unkempt egret]

--> poison

dang even the kakuna got some good damage in

[coarse estuary]

gosh the pokemontcg discord im in is angering me. they are basically telling me (someone who is getting into the tcg as an actual player apposed to just collecting cards for the first time) to just dont bother playing in any sort of event or otherwise if i cant build a 100% meta deck

[unkempt egret]

the optimizers coming out of the woodworks

how did the game go btw?

[coarse estuary]

week 1 i went 1 and 3. so not bad for my first time. i did order some singles online so i can edit my deck slightly and optimize it but those cards wont be here in time for this upcoming one so ima run a modified pult deck this comming one

[unkempt egret]

nice progress so far, got some experience under your belt now

[coarse estuary]

Oh yeah for sure. I'm excited to try this dragapult deck I made this coming week then try my updated poison deck the week after once the cards get in. Ideally if possible I want 2 decks just to make it so I'm not predictable by playing the same deck every week

[mighty robin]

While we’re on that topic and I’m going through the server messages here’s my legitimate shiny. I don’t remember what game I found it in. But I know it was a Zwelious in a Victory Road, then traded into a later game, which I think is the game in the picture.

I was also unlucky enough to get a few non-legitimate shiny pokemon through trading

[coarse estuary]

Nice nice. The only 4 legit shiny mons I have are a shiny galvantula in white a shiny gyarados from hgss that wasn't the lake of rage one a staraptor from Arceus and a Pidgey from za

[mighty robin]

I think I had a shiny diancie with outstanding potential

[rugged shadow]

Legit 4 hours later

[lavish dune]

oh yeah it was a mess

i unironically used curse against scyther

[inland crane]

Shout out to poor giratina "saving" the world like twice but being called the devil of pokemon

[coarse estuary]

lol why is it that 3 seperate people ive talked to since starting to get into playing the tcg ginst real people blindly assume that i have infinite copies of every legal card and i can just 1 for 1 copy a deck from limitless then when i say i cant do that they act so shocked as if i told them something they falsely believed was true for years

[unkempt egret]

I think of it being because some people like holding onto false hopes of optimal conditions, even when those conditions (almost) never exist in real circumstances

(or they're just too used to TCG Live where you kinda can just do that for a few times)

[coarse estuary]

imo i view it at this, they are fake tcg fans who either only play the pc game/pocket or are scalpers and dont realize that the average person building a real life deck cant 1-1 a deck just because they were told to

[unkempt egret]

I was gonna say yea I can see the latter more, either scalpers or whales that can just afford to dump money in the thousands on that

though I can also see fakers if they're online too since yea in both Live and Pocket it's very easy to just modify a deck on the fly

(moreso pocket since the interace is more friendly and you don't have to engage with the PvP to get new cardslike live forces)

[unkempt egret]

I 100% forgot about oricorio day today, mostly because I'm kinda... done on oricorios?

since literally the first one I found in GO was a hundo rofl

[split yoke]

Not another pokemon game, but the offtopic folks were pissed I posted pokemon there, so... I dunno

[sweet crypt]

We really need like

Some clarification that #other-pokemon-games is for other Pokemon games as well as Pokemon Anime, Pokemon Art etc

At least I'm assuming it can be used for that since the channel description says anything related to the Pokemon games

And there's no other channel for it

[split yoke]

Ah. Neat.

So just "other pokemon" period. lol.

[coarse estuary]

im thinking of doing a platinum lp for the 2nd time ever and was looking for some suggestions for mons to use that arent in the default sinnoh staples. i do not have any access to the dual slot mode mons without pk hex and i do have access to trade evolutions so those are on the table. what would yall recommend

[cloud lark]

Mamoswine if you're especially patient

[coarse estuary]

i mean if i can use drampa in an ultra moon team i can be patient for mamo line hehe

[unkempt egret]

I would joke about purugly but that's not obtainable in platinum normally so uuuh

how about Azumarill in "honor" of my own azu that beefed it in 2024 by flinching against cynthia's garchomp in the slowlocke?

[coarse estuary]

ill consider it if i dont pick pip starter

[unkempt egret]

in that case I don't actually see toxicroak ran a whole lot so how about trying it?

[cloud lark]

I would suggest Yanmega but I don't wanna subject anyone to not having easy access Fly (why the hell can't it learn that move)

[coarse estuary]

i mean i could have an hm slave for fly

[verbal pendant]

Look ho oh you look cool but come on not your best look

[split yoke]

Was about to say...

[verbal pendant]

Yeah

[split yoke]

That looked nothing like gardevoir

lol

[verbal pendant]

Its a cool look

But im used to the burning fire birb

[split yoke]

What game?

[verbal pendant]

Tower of ashes

Its a rougelite

Not too hard

[broken temple]

pretty good game if i say so myself
just beat it on my 4th run or so

that was my team

really great concept art art music and such

like a classic rougelike

really like how they handle the boss fights in that game

like it way more then something like pokerouge

[cloud lark]

So what are we expecting from the Pokémon superbowl news?

[brisk hedge]

Given that there’s going to be a direct soon, probably nothing substantial

[broken temple]

0 expecations
keeping the trend from the last 8 years

[coarse estuary]

my guess just some 30th anniversary thing

[coarse viper]

alright the game is just sentient
no matter which team combo i choose in endless mode the first 5 biomes just become my counters...then the game pulls THIS

[supple basalt]

Yeah Endless is rough unless you have just specific sets

But the needing to use specific pets makes it boring

[coarse viper]

it will not be that bad if it will not be so rigged
I had 2 grass type and a bug type and i get send in the factory and vulcano areas (Thank god for moltres)
then Flutter mane

[unkempt egret]

yea the first 250 waves and everything past about 2000 are awful but once you do get the setup, 251 through 1999 are basically Peak Shiny Farming. It is bad that you have to basically rely on either passive damage spam or just counterspam past that point though since the tokens just get out of control by that point

[pale coyote]

Oh geez i beat pokerogue exactly once

[lavish dune]

Reckon I'm Whitney ready?

[unkempt egret]

not super sure? ||remember: it has scrappy so Gastly won't be doing much there||

[lavish dune]

ah hell

[lavish dune]

got a pidgey up to evolving, gonna get the squad to level 19 and go in

[coarse estuary]

ok some good and bad news about the asccendedheroes etb on the 20th for me. my lcs will have some. the bad news however is they said to get there before it opens so i can get some since they know scalpers will try to get it and they cant stop them

[coarse estuary]

no you aint the kadabra aint evolved

[lavish dune]

Im on hardware and no extra copies, that Kadabra is Kadabra forever

[unkempt egret]

kadabra iself isn't terrible, 120/105 makes it faster than miltank and he can probably get a strong shot off before getting obliterated

[coarse estuary]

so? i play exclusively on hardware with single copies of games and i still can evolve trade evos. just mod your system

[lavish dune]

no adapter

[coarse estuary]

you dont need an "adapter" just an sd card and a pc

[lavish dune]

adapter for sd card to pc mate, i had one before but it got damaged. ill have to order another actually but thats beside the point

my pc didnt come with one sadly

[coarse estuary]

ah rip. no zam

[cloud lark]

I wonder how many Pokémon fans are disinterestedly watching through the superbowl just for 3 minutes tops of Pokémon related stuff

[unborn granite]

[cloud lark]

Nevermind, it was about one minute lol

[lavish dune]

Whitney can piss off

Two sand attacks and she still got 4 rollouts with 2 crits

[cloud lark]

RNG is a cruel, hateful entity that delights in our misery

[lavish dune]

well- i saved my route 36 encounter. time to get sudowoodo

gottem

[unkempt egret]

at least you lost the two mons that are probably gonna contribute the least moving forwards, 97% accurate sleep powders aside

[lavish dune]

that was my thought too

[ruby marlin]

https://x.com/WOKENJJT/status/2020681753438929310?s=20

「WOKEN ELMA SIMP」 (@WOKENJJT)

Super Bowl ads are $8-10 Million for 30 seconds

Pokemon aired a 1 Minute Ad

That’s $16-20 Million, without the production cost

Pokemon Legends Z-A’s budget was about $13 Million

The cost to air this commercial alone was more than the entire development of Pokemon Legends Z-A

X · Feb 9, 2026, 2:10 AM

[delicate hollow]

Isn't there a DS rom hack of DPPt and HGSS (Sinnoh and remakes of Johto) with no difficulty but given national dex at start and able to catch all 493 Pokemon even before beating champion and before beating Red on Mt Silver?
Just no hardcore difficulty or level caps etc as I only prefer every Pokemon obtainable right at the get go.

[broken temple]

im pretty sure that was a setting in the universal randomizer

[coarse viper]

wtf Gliscor can learn Crabhammer?

[broken temple]

ye i was shocked too

not like he needed a water move

[coarse viper]

i think its just there for thematics since..he has those claws

[broken temple]

still unneeded

[coarse viper]

oh i agree

kinda funny tho

He is such a blessing in double battles encounters in the ground only run

since i can just earthquake freely

[broken temple]

oh 100%

[coarse estuary]

If I was to make a Google form to get Mons for an ultra moon egglocke would I be allowed to put the link here for submissions?

[coarse viper]

aand i lost the run to Spectrier after the rival fight

this game hates me

[rich tundra]

Myst did it once in spriter general so i don't see why you wouldn't be able to do it here

[coarse estuary]

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfrhpJXlzWqA5HpUMt9iz_7dzB-vBxw58aEiqzXHYFbLWFhkg/viewform?usp=publish-editor

[cloud lark]

$16 million minimum for a bunch of random celebs to talk about their favorite Pokémon? Really?

If you're gonna spend that much on some commercial, you could at least do something engaging with it

[tardy terrace]

Idk why im doing this to myself but here i go 🥹

[brisk hedge]

Are you doing some kind of challenge run, or just a casual playthrough?

[tardy terrace]

probably just a normal nuzlocke maybe

Just never wanted to touch BDSP againnn

😭😭

[brisk hedge]

Fair

[tardy terrace]

Any time ive tried i got frustrated about something and gave up

[coarse estuary]

ok with that all mons have been made and egged

[lavish dune]

This scared the ever living hell out of me for a sec

[ruby marlin]

I thought it was a game version so sharing the jumpscare here too

[sleek zephyr]

Third badge, no problem.
Current team (open to suggestions, especially to replace one of the first 2 since they will both share the Fire-type when Brolder evolves) :

• Chuckya [Reigen]
• Brolder [Rocky]
• Yellow Yoshi [Ristretto]
• CheepChomp [Remora]
• Spike Top [Ruri]
• Ghostmouse [Romania 🇷🇴]

[coarse estuary]

time to get the first 2 eggs of the egglocke

the first two eggs in the egglocke were absol and scyther

[cloud lark]

Just saw one of the commercials for LEGO Pokémon and my lord the Pikachu is horrendous

[wanton cradle]

When you do egglock on any game how to find the egg file?

[coarse estuary]

i generate the eggs myself via pkhex or pksm

[wanton cradle]

ho ok i never use that

[coarse estuary]

you should. they are really helpful tools for editing saves like 1 being able to hack in candies or 2 evolving trade mons or giving mons custom moves or editing fly data or stuff really useful. i use both for all my nuzlockes to hack in rare candies give myself an hm slave (for pre gen 7 games) and to hack in the fly location to the elite 4 if i know the vr will be deathless just time consuming

[wanton cradle]

ok thanks

[coarse estuary]

idk if im weird or not but rn i got 2 sperate casual runs going on. i got a casual run of plat im doing and a casual run of white 2

[upbeat notch]

real tho 😭

project voltage is a better ad than this

and we got like 20+ songs from talented artists

[sweet crypt]

Why am I spending time arguing with someone claiming that Brine can OHKO something when it goes under 50% HP

What am I doing with my life

[coarse viper]

my rival is using a Setup mon as his last mon

pff

[pale coyote]

Lol

[sweet crypt]

Blud thinks they're Geeta

(Jokes aside, it's because Gliscor is currently out, which the game recognises royally fucks Glimmora)

[coarse viper]

no its just the last of its mons he opens with his starter Charizard

then if Charizard falls he sends Swellow in Ice fang

+Sacrificing Glimmora could benefit him

[sweet crypt]

That's because the rival sees Swellow as a Flying/Normal type

Which is immune to Gliscor's Ground STABs

It doesn't know your moves, even if you reveal them directly in front of it

The rival opens with their Starter

But what Pokemon they send in afterwards is completely dependant on your own

[coarse viper]

fair fair

[sweet crypt]

Once again, Glimmora has a quad weakness to Ground, one of Gliscor's STAB types

Thus, the rival doesn't want to switch it into Gliscor

This is why runs utilising Volcarona always fall apart at 195

The rival will almost always send in Mega Rayquaza to counter Volcarona, and Volcarona cannot set up on its Dragon Ascents or Outrages

If the rival has a Water starter, they may keep it in on Volcarona, and if it's a Special Attacker, you can use Tera to set up on it

Though Volcarona does also lack ways to severely damage Mega Ray in general

I think it still has Dgleam though

As an egg move

I could be wrong

[lavish dune]

Gengar was terrifying. I only didn't lose anyone because of a smokescreen.

Onwards!

[sweet crypt]

For future reference, the only moves on Morty's team that can damage a Normal Type are Curse (on Gastly and the 2 Haunters), Hypnosis+Dream Eater+Nightmare (On the Level 21 Haunter) and Sucker Punch (on the Gengar and Level 23 Haunter). The former 2 are directly foiled by Substitute (Curse doesn't go through Substitute in this generation) and Sucker Punch is also foiled by Substitute because you can just spam it to stall Sucker Punch's 5 PP

This should help quite a lot

[lavish dune]

Ngl, I got all my normal types killed

[sweet crypt]

Oh

Well, uh

[lavish dune]

I was training Rattata and got got by pursuit

[sweet crypt]

You still beat Morty at least!

[lavish dune]

Then was training a Zubat who failed a runaway and died for it

But yay shadow claw tm

Welcome Netch the Tentacool!

[coarse viper]

And ground done

[sweet crypt]

This is probably a better team than what I used lmao

My 2 Mono Ground clears are probably the worst clears of my Monotype runs

In terms of team comp

[coarse viper]

most of the job of the team was to mud slap and sand attack him

and then curse with Runerigus and wait it out xD

[sweet crypt]

My 2nd clear (which was the run where Pokerogue picked what I used with Random) had Garchomp neg diff the entire main part of the game

And my plan was to literally just

Hope than Runerigus and Pupitar can 2v1 Eternatus

Yes, PUPITAR

[coarse viper]

oof

[sweet crypt]

It worked though

If it's stupid and it works, it isn't stupid

[coarse viper]

true enough

[sweet crypt]

I can't remember what I did in the 1st one tbh

Oh right I used Prankster Spore Toedscruel

[coarse viper]

welp i got god

sure not the best nature but eh

[sweet crypt]

I mean

It is arguably the 2nd best for the Calm Mind sets that most Arceus forms not named Arceus Normal would like to run

Bold would be better probably

But Calm isn't bad either

For Ekiller though yeah that kinda sucks lmao

[coarse viper]

glad i had the master ball to catch the Regi

my collection of Regi is almost complete

Hoooly shit's batman

[broken temple]

wow

nice pull

walking wake is an easy carry

[coarse viper]

all of them with thier hidden ability too

which is neat

[broken temple]

ye ig so

[sweet crypt]

Really?

I imagine it'd have issues with Mega Rayquaza and Eternatus

Since it is slower than both and weak to their Dragon moves

[broken temple]

i used him for my first win in pokerouge

[sweet crypt]

And those 2 are really the only parts of a run I think about when considering if a run is possible or not

[broken temple]

he carried me all the way to eternatus on my first run, but didnt contribute much on etern it self

[topaz thunder]

Had a random thought in my head, and I’m fairly certain someone already had this thought. But, there is a future where VGC will have to deal with Gigantimax Eviolite Duraludon

[coarse estuary]

lol someone just told me that i should stop doing 2 runs of 2 seperate games so i can beat the game i wanna beat but find hard to play through because it doesnt work for them. im just like i dont care if that works or doesnt for you since you aint the one doin it

[coarse estuary]

technically no since afaik eviolite doesnt work on mons that cant evolve and it would be unable to evolve beause its a g max form

[topaz thunder]

That would be odd if it worked that way it doesn’t stop being duraludon I guess we’ll just have to wait to see how game freak handles it because I’m fairly certain that is the only Pokémon that has that interaction

[coarse estuary]

eevee and pikachu work exactly like that and im 98% certain the eviolite dont work on those 2 when they can gmax

[topaz thunder]

I think those are weird cases because the Pikachu and Eevee that have that form can’t evolve

[coarse estuary]

exactly my point im going with for the duraladon

[topaz thunder]

OK, that’s fair. I still think that there might be a future in which that case does happen. It depends on how game freak decides to handle it I guess.

Because I think that restriction was there so that you could play with that particular Pokémon, and not like accidentally evolved it and lose the special form, but if it’s in Pokémon challengers, I don’t know if you can accidentally evolve that Pokémon

[coarse estuary]

we will have to see but as of rn im basing it off of how we have handled mons that are capable of evolving and have a g max form

[iron condor]

hello

[coarse estuary]

<@&306953740651462656> just bringing this to yalls attention bro is spamming this in every channel

[lost osprey]

already kicked

[main rune]

Someone speedy

[mighty robin]

seems to be another one

or maybe they’re just being friendly and saying hello back

[crisp ledge]

you talking about me?

i said hi to the first and second i saw, then i realized it was a spammer, my bad :/

[mighty robin]

All good

[noble saffron]

Just got pokerus in a Sapphire cartridge O_O

[broken temple]

🔥

[cloud lark]

Oh wow, this actually got a yes vote. Was half expecting this to just be the other 2 options until the poll expired lol

It sure says a lot about the mentality around LEGO these days either way though lol

Seriously though, $650 plus tax for this?

[west mason]

BROOOO MY LUCK IS ASS

9 FRICKING EV

[sweet crypt]

EVs aren't luck-based?

EVs, or Effort Values, are gained via gaining EXP from other Pokemon, with each Pokemon having a unique EV yield

You're probably thinking of IVs, which admittedly aren't great either

[west mason]

Phhh

[sweet crypt]

This seems to be one of those shameless Brick Bronze ripoffs

[west mason]

Ohh*

Yea

Xd

But its still an alright game tho

[sweet crypt]

Based on the stats and Weak Armour, this is

Hmm

Boldore?

[west mason]

Yea

Ure good

[sweet crypt]

IVs aren't amazing for Gigalith admittedly

Mid HP, Defence and SpD IVs

But you do have 31 Attack IVs

And SpA and Speed on a Gigalith aren't very important

[west mason]

The speed is good tho

But yea

[sweet crypt]

Gigalith has 25 base Speed

[west mason]

BUT THE WIERDEST THING WITH THIS COPU IS THAT MY DELPHOX IS FIRE FAIRY

[sweet crypt]

31 IVs or not, you are getting outsped by a fucking Crustle

[west mason]

Oh

Loll

[sweet crypt]

That is pretty weird

[west mason]

Yea

Just found that out like an hour ago

[sweet crypt]

Weak Armour in Boldore is a good sign though

Because that means when it evolves, it will gain Sand Stream

Sand Stream is Gigalith's best ability since Sand chip is nice (unless it's on your own Pokemon but I'm sure you have other Pokemon immune to Sand apart from Gigalith that can stall the 5 turns out) and Sandstorm will also boost Gigalith's SpD by 1.5 times

[west mason]

Idk how long i will be playing this copy tho sence Im waiting on pif 2 and Eleo adventures to come out

Eleon*

[sweet crypt]

Tbh even ignoring that most of the work in these PBB copies aren't their own

I'm still not the greatest fan of the PBB copies

A lot of them have quite a few glitches

Because they're using very old outdated code

[west mason]

Yea

[sweet crypt]

And speaking of dated, PBB is also kinda just

Not as polished as its successor

As are Project Pokemon and its copies vs Doodle World

Which is to be expected

[west mason]

Whats project pokemon?

[sweet crypt]

Another old Pokemon game on Roblox

Predates PBB, if my memory serves me correctly

[west mason]

Doodle world is so fun but i took a brake from it so i forgot everything bout it and now idk what to do with it

[west mason]

Oh okey

[sweet crypt]

I mean like

It's like comparing GSC with HGSS

[west mason]

Comparing huh what?

[sweet crypt]

Gold/Silver/Crystal vs Heart Gold/Soul Silver

[west mason]

Oh okey

[sweet crypt]

There's a massive gap of time between these games and the latter are literally made to be better versions of the former

And with far more experience under the development teams' belts

[west mason]

Yea

I get it

[sweet crypt]

That said I love Project Pokemon for its absolute jank

Because there's nothing as funny as knowing jack shit about Pokemon and encountering a Latios as your first encounter after getting Pokeballs before proceeding to catch it with the first Pokeball you throw at it

[west mason]

Lol

Ohh its a lunala pfp, i thought it was goku

LOL

[tardy bramble]

Pokémon añil?

[coarse estuary]

what about it

[coarse estuary]

the one time i get an adamant nature starter its on my osha wich is really not ideal of a nature

[hushed peak]

Sometimes I'm having a good day and then I remember Gardenia in the Ilex forest in HGSS with her Ivysaur

[brisk hedge]

Uh, that was a rom hack (at least I think it was a rom hack rather then a fan game), not HGSS

[hushed peak]

Was it? I was very young when I saw the interaction that gives you grass knot

Oh yeah sacred gold

Huh...odd

This is why unrestricted internet access isn't a good thing

Well hopefully I'm not the only one who was fooled by it

Cause pokemon has gotten away with some wild things before I just didn't put it past them

Case in point

[coarse estuary]

probs not since i know ive talked to someone on this app who thought drayanos blaze black 2 redux was the actual black 2

[twin gulch]

I really hate Amoonguss in Gen 5 cause the stupid mushroom just refuses to die even when you hit with super effective moves. Damn thing always murdered my runs on the Battle Subway.

[hushed peak]

Speaking of

[lavish dune]

Sir this is a pokemon center?

[brisk hedge]

Did he say anything prior to that, or is that the start of his dialogue?

[lavish dune]

thats the start lol

[hushed peak]

Battle tower NPCs are always weird

[cloud lark]

Oh no it's me in a few years

[lucid magnet]

Hey anyone here play unite I'm trying to get back into it

[lavish dune]

How's the squad looking? Mom coming through with the mf moon stone

[sleek zephyr]

🖐️💥 😭

Even in Super Mariomon.
You have to beat 3 rounds in the Battle Factory(?) to get to fight a mandatory boss.

😬 🧑‍🤝‍🧑?

[honest tree]

anyone know where i could get an emulater for ultra sun with a randomizer?

i would prefer not to install a virus acedentely

[sour nimbus]

?tag rule6

[ebon pond]

Make sure to follow the #rules!

Rule 6 DISALLOWED CONTENT: Resources to illegal content (ROMs, pirated movies, etc). We are sure that there are ways and means of finding these that do not involve a Pokémon Fan Game discord server.

[tardy anchor]

omg how unlucky can I get

😭

Got 3 Team Plasma boss fights consecutively in a row and I lost on the third fight

GGz to my progress till floor 115

farthest I've ever been

[plucky violet]

Hey brothers

Im new here

[tardy anchor]

hi

[sweet crypt]

The Evil Team will always throw trainer battles at you on 112, 114 and 115

As well as 35, 62, 64, 66, 164 and 165

[tardy anchor]

Consecutively?

[sweet crypt]

Wdym consecutively?

[tardy anchor]

Nvm it's like my third time playing Pokerogue

So yeah

Btw some tips?

[tardy anchor]

Ik the basic stuff like shiny boost odds and stat changes remain until the pokemon is switched throughout battles but idk the best starters for it

[sweet crypt]

Uhh

Roll on Rare Egg Move Gacha

Because Shiny Gacha is fraudulent and some Legendaries can be hard to use due to high cost

Apart from that, don't be afraid to experiment or fail

Also, you may want to pick up a few forms of passive damage on the way to 200

A few good examples are Curse on Cofagrigus and Salt Cure on Garganacl

Leech Seed also works but for a certain reason you may struggle getting Leech Seed set up on 200

You also want to learn how to abuse Pokerogue's AI

It will very often switch if it sees a major disadvantage between your Pokemon and their Pokemon, usually in the form of very poor type MUs

And they will always switch to the Pokemon they view to have the best Type MU vs yours

This can easily be abused with pivoting or just getting a Pokemon with low offensive threat to switch in

[formal loom]

A bit of question, should I play Pokemon Z or Consconance?

[ashen rivet]

Is the vaporeon with the h**tai moan really nesscary for pokemon unbreakable ties plot

[simple quartz]

The literal lack of context in your post

And somehow I'm just gonna believe you because why

[ashen rivet]

It's in every pokecenter in unbreakable ties, there is alot of jokes in this game generally, there is a trash can that interacting with it opens a YouTube link to that dancing stick bug

[simple quartz]

Ah

Very 2010s I guess

[ashen rivet]

True true

[coarse viper]

oh wow..haven't seen this team in like..500th time in the last hour

[coarse estuary]

well my platinum of the 2 playthroughs took a shocking turn on the gym 2 segment as the only honey tree i slathered and only one i will ever slather gave me heracross

[coarse estuary]

i swear pokemon challenge videos im watching are trying to annoy me. like seriously how can i click on 3 different ones and all 3 have some part where they dont know how the type chart works or how the game they are playing works

[brisk hedge]

What do you mean by “don’t know how the game they are playing works”?

[coarse estuary]

well in the vid i watched they were claiming that the hiker fight after fighting kiawe for minas trial was an ultra sun exclusive fight and if they were playing ultra moon that mon they lost wouldnt have happened because they wouldnt have had to fight the hiker

[sweet crypt]

So what you're saying is that they were just saying random shit basically

[coarse estuary]

yeah pretty much they were just spouting. im highly convinced they got a google translated chat gpt summery of the important fights and took it as fact

[lavish dune]

Horseless head man, my beloved haunter, has died to a crit flamethrower from a random double battle with a Magmar. Fly high sweet prince, you were incredibly helpful

I was gonna take him all the way too, damn that sucks

[coarse viper]

god ubers showdown is filled with just Legendaries

and mythicals*

if you wanna quit at least freaking quit and let me find another match
don't go afk

[brisk hedge]

Question: if you could choose one feature from any mainline Pokémon game to make a permanent return in all future mainline games, what would you bring back and why. This can include battle mechanics such as mega evolution or Z moves, mini games such as contests or the pokeatholon, or any other gameplay feature you could think of, as long as it’s present in a mainline game.

[coarse estuary]

the pwt for sure

[coarse viper]

i really wanna see more mega evos sooo imma be basic with that take

[coarse estuary]

my other choice would be going to a 2nd region post game for 8 more badges and a secret boss

[coarse viper]

no i really hated Johto for it

[coarse estuary]

bro its personal opinion. no need to trash on my opinion because i didnt like it the first time

[coarse viper]

in my opinion i don't wanna pass through a grinding nightmare for nostalgia sake

again

welp he let me max out

gg

welp Nvm Mirror coat

i feel i've seen this before

[split yoke]

Saronix just wants to help

[coarse estuary]

a man of culture i see. i watched that earlier

[coarse viper]

@scarlet sandal @daring rock this is currently my team

nothin special for sure but hey i love these mons

[scarlet sandal]

solid build tbh

primarina is hella good

[daring rock]

i saw the first four mons and thought u were playing in ubers with an OU team

yeah its quite cool

[scarlet sandal]

all of bros mons are speed reliant

im fast as fuk boi!

speed attack speed s.a

[coarse viper]

yep

[scarlet sandal]

that ceruledge is a pure glass cannon

😭

[coarse viper]

it helps that Bitter blade heals it xD

[daring rock]

i used to play ceruledge in two ways

[scarlet sandal]

lel

I use that move aswell

man I love ceruledge

[daring rock]

bulky (bulk up+flash fire) or glass canon (swords dance+weak armor)

either make it tank or not at all

[scarlet sandal]

I choose swords dance 🐸

[daring rock]

if u wanna kill swords dance i think fits better;)

[coarse viper]

weak armor is pretty fun to use when the enmy tries to lower your def as their tactic..and just give you a speed boost

[daring rock]

ive played both BUT i agree swords dance is way more fun

[scarlet sandal]

ikrr

• it lets you finish the game faster

[daring rock]

but if u bulk up then u get no defense at all, what i mean is if u get swords dance u get more attack even tho ur defense is lowered

is like being all-out

i like it

[coarse viper]

ngl i only picked Bulk up because i legitemly forgot to check if it can learn sword dance xD

[scarlet sandal]

breh

[coarse viper]

yeah i got no excuse on that one

the one mon it made sense to learn sword dance i ain't checking

[daring rock]

it has two swords as hands arceus would be a bad jokester if it couldnt learn it

[scarlet sandal]

😭😭

I dont blame bro for thinking like that

if doduo can fly

[daring rock]

valid valid

[scarlet sandal]

then anything is possible

I want the stuff gf smokes

must be premium

[coarse viper]

i like how they can come up with stuff like Mega Rayquaza...
but then do things like Scovilian and its mega

[cloud lark]

I don't think anyone really has any idea how to properly balance Pokémon

I distinctly remember one post on r/Stunfisk of someone proposing a Mega Jirachi that had the ability to grant the secondary affects of any move 100 percent of the time. And Jirachi gets Ice Beam.

[quasi linden]

For Pokémon to balance Pokémon, they need to stop making filler mons for dexes and focus on making sure the Pokémon they have are balanced and unique in their own way -- which goes against their marketing policies.

The other way is to put more time and money into the game, which goes against their marketing policies

[cloud lark]

I mean, we don't need every single Pokémon in existence to be competitively viable for top tier play. There should definitely be more effort put into balancing existing Pokémon more than slightly adjusting their stats by 10 points or their movesets with 1 new worthwhile addition once every 3ish years

[simple quartz]

I don't think people realize how insanely tall an order it is to actually just make a game "balanced" competitively

There's always gonna be strong outliers and then weak outliers in any games like these it's just the nature of the beast

[quasi linden]

I never said every Pokemon in existence has to be viable, there just needs to be less filler if they were going for that

Pokemon is just not a balanced game, to truly make a more balanced game you need a smaller roster and that's impossible for Pokemon since conception

To clarify, balance does not always equal fun. Pokemon is still fun.

[sweet crypt]

Focusing purely on moveset issues, you should NOT be running Silk Scarf Tera Normal Tera Blast on Lunala

Moongeist Beam is practically a must-have on offensive Lunala sets

Because Moongeist Beam is a very strong STAB move with a very strong offensive type

You should also be using a nature, either Timid or Modest with your EV spread

Since you'd be removing your Normal move, you can replace the Silk Scarf with another item. Heavy-Duty Boots is my preferred item since it allows Lunala to keep Shadow Shield intact in the face of hazards, but Leftovers are viable too

Also, I think Thunderbolt would be more useful than Ice Beam

Not to say that Ice Beam is a bad option, but I think being able to hit Ho-Oh and Kyogre for SE is more important than Eternatus and Arceus Ground

You also have Tera Blast on far too many Pokemon that can function without it

Remember, you can only Tera one Pokemon per game

Ceruledge's Weak Armour sets typically gain more from Swords Dance than Bulk Up

And you should be running Shadow Sneak for STAB priority

Iron Head does hit Rock for SE, but Rock is very rare in Ubers, and Ceruledge has Close Combat for the same purpose with much more damage and relevant targets. I guess Iron Head does hit Arceus Fairy for SE, but that's a winning MU anyways

Gardevoir typically wants to run Choice Scarf over Focus Sash in tiers it finds itself in, and since you already have 2 Pokemon with Calm Mind, I think it'd be nice here to handle the other Pokemon in Ubers. This team has a very notably weakness to Meteor Beam Eternatus, with it have the Speed, SpA and coverage to sweep the team. Lunala is one of the only answers for this (so maybe Ice Beam is better? Or maybe for once we actually run a Psychic STAB on Lunala for the first time since Gen 7), but Scarf Gardevoir can assist too with Scarf Psychic/Psyshock, and if all else fails, you can trick it your Choice Scarf to lock it into a move

Or Psychic Noise actually a lot of Pokemon like running Psychic Noise to block healing

All 3 are viable options imo

You also run Moonblast on Scarf sets, and I'll let you decide on what to run in the last moveslot yourself since it's very flexible

You should probably be running a bit more bulk investment on Primarina, since it does like having high bulk, and is a bit slow, so it only needs to worry about outspeeding other slow Pokemon

Apart from that, the only targets for Tera Poison Tera Blast in Ubers are Arceus Fairy, Ribombee (suicide lead btw), and Hatterene

Also, on offensive Primarina sets, you run Moonblast over Draining Kiss

You should either use a more bulky set or swap to Moonblast

If you do swap to a bulkier set, do know that bulky Calm Mind sweepers will always invest in Defence over SpD when given the chance

Since your damage will be becoming more dependant on getting multiple Calm Minds on such a set, Psychic Noise can be used over Hyper Voice as it has a very useful secondary effect

The Garchomp set is kinda luck-fishy

But that was the intention

If Tera Blast Electric is for Flying types, I'll have you know that Garchomp learns both Rock Slide and Stone Edge

So it doesn't really need Tera Blast either

Other options are using a Smooth Rock to extend Sandstorm, or running Substitute over something else to give yourself more opportunities to dodge

As for Giratina, Giratina just doesn't run offensive sets

If you want an offensive Calm Minding Ghost type, well

You already have one

Giratina usually plays the role of support

And has extremely specialised EV spreads for optimal play

For example, it runs 44 Speed EVs to always outspeed Uninvested Gliscot

And they run 248 HP and 112 Defence EVs allows it to tank +2 Ekiller Arceus Tera Ghost/Life Orb Shadow Claw

The rest usually goes into its attacking stat of choice

If you want to keep to using a Special set, run Hex and Draco Meteor as your 2 attacking moves. Otherwise, run Poltergeist and Dragon Tail (Dragon Tail serves the purpose of forcing Pokemon out, which can save you against the likes of Ekiller)

As for the 4th moveslot, it's usually Defog

But physical sets can consider Shadow Sneak and Stone Edge, too

On physical sets, when running Defog, Will-O-Wisp is the better status move since it helps nullify Ting-Lu's Leftovers recovery, but otherwise, Thunder Wave is better

Both have use cases though

[honest tree]

Mb I should probably read the rules

[coarse viper]

I am playing Single Ubers and most common typing there is Fairy/Dark, which my team has a crippling weakness to
While I do encounter occasionally some Glamora setup runner more often than not Arceus Fairy, Zacian are just there,

The intention with Garchomp is not to counter flying types necessarily as much as to give him an offensive option while I tera out of the weakness

Ik its RNG heavy team too xD

[sweet crypt]

Low ladder loves Glimmora, yeah

Which really gives you more reason to use a standard Defog Giratina-O set tbh

Glimmora often suicide leads

So you just Defog after it dies

What are they gonna do to stop you, use Gholdengo and get OHKOd by a Poltergeist?

[sweet crypt]

Yanmega is the only Pokemon I see people say could be a Bug/Dragon type that I'm not entirely opposed to

I mean, it's not like being a Bug/Flying type is doing it favours

Especially when its best Flying STAB is fucking Air Slash and not even Hurricane

Like I know something something low accuracy

But Air Slash is also capable of missing and hits like a potato

While Hurricane actually does noticeable damage

Good damage, even

If you're wondering if they'd ever do that when the term Dragonfly isn't a thing in Japan, friendly reminder that many Pokemon take inspiration from countries that are not Japan

[tardy anchor]

whats the best pokemon to pair with my Thundurus, I am thinking of something like Sableye or Marianie?

[sweet crypt]

What are you egg moves on your Pokemon?

Especially Thundurus

[tardy anchor]

no egg move I got it from an npc on my last run

[sweet crypt]

Other Pokemon, then

[tardy anchor]

it was like the scientist took one random pokemon from my team and would bring out a pokemon which could be good or bad

[sweet crypt]

I need to know your egg moves because Pokerogue's egg moves can be very broken

[tardy anchor]

took my gyarados and give Thundurus

[tardy anchor]

lemme see

Liquidation on Cufant

Bullet punch on Mawile

Topsry Turvy on Sableye

Freezy Frost on Mantyke

Stone axe on bergmite

Bouncy Bubble on chinchou

Dragon Dance on chikorita

Leech life on Anorith

Parting shot on Squawkabilly

Strength sap on Stunfisk

Kowtow cleave on Absol

Salt cure on Smeargle

Cosmic power on unknown

@sweet crypt

Strength sap on Bonsly too

[sweet crypt]

I think out of these, the most standout are Topsy Turvy on Sableye and Freezy Frost in Mantyke, as those 2 work extremely well on the final boss (though you need either Mega Sableye or Prankster for it in particular)

Salt Cure Smeargle can work for the final boss too but Garganacl is a better Salt Curer as the final boss can easily outspeed and OHKO Smeargle

[tardy anchor]

yeah

[sweet crypt]

For main carry material though, none of these really do the trick

Bouncy Bubble on Lanturn could be neat I suppose?

Mega Absol also does decent but you need to Mega Evolve it since base Absol is very terrible outside of early game

If I were you, I'd stick to using Magikarp, as Dragon Dance Gyarados is a pretty strong Pokemon

Thundurus is currently too expensive to be worth

[tardy anchor]

yeah and it doesnt fit the point count since Thundurus is 7 points alone

[sweet crypt]

Most legendaries aren't worth their cost at base, and Thundurus is one of them

I'd probably try Magikarp as I said earlier

Though you need someone else for the early game while Magikarp is still a Magikarp

[tardy anchor]

Irony is that I got Thundurus in place of gyarados only

[sweet crypt]

I'd suggest for you to multitask and bring a Ground type for this purpose, but your only Grounds are Bunnelby, who needs its Hidden Ability, and Gunfisk, which isn't very good

Maybe a Grass type for the early game?

Idk

[tardy anchor]

dragon dance chikorita could be good

but its too frail to setup properly

[sweet crypt]

Do you have Volt Absorb on Chinchou?

It could be a pretty good bring

[sweet crypt]

Meganium's actually pretty bulky

The issue with Meganium is that it doesn't hit hard

[tardy anchor]

but early game would be a nightmare with magikarp and chikorita

[tardy anchor]

yeah

[sweet crypt]

Volt Absorb Chinchou is another option for Electric counter then

[tardy anchor]

I was thinking of Timburr since in the early game most of the pokemon are normal type

[sweet crypt]

That could work too

The early game types you'll see the most are Normal, Flying, Water and Grass

Oh and Bug

Poison can be pretty common too

[tardy anchor]

yeah

[sweet crypt]

You don't really have a good number of Pokemon to support a Magikarp run

[tardy anchor]

can go Fuecoco, Bulbasaur and magikarp

[sweet crypt]

You could commit to using Pokemon that are great early but scale poorly into late game like Absol

That way you're practically guaranteed to evolve Magikarp

[tardy anchor]

that could work

[sweet crypt]

Also I didn't see Golett, that could work well too

Since it does cover Electric

[tardy anchor]

btw what does this small icon on Golett mean?

[sweet crypt]

I guess an issue then would be struggling to beat all 3 Starter types in the early game

[sweet crypt]

It means you have Golett's Hidden Ability

[tardy anchor]

oh so No guard

[sweet crypt]

Which is No Guard

[sweet crypt]

Yup

[tardy anchor]

Btw where can I find a smeargle?

[sweet crypt]

Now that you mention it, I'm not too sure

[tardy anchor]

Oh

[sweet crypt]

I dont think I've ever seen a wild Smeargle in Pokerogue, I've only ever hatched one

Or uh

Hold up let me check how many Smeargles I've hatched

79

[tardy anchor]

Damn that's more than how many pokemons I currently have

💀

[sweet crypt]

Wait you're right lmao you have like 77

[tardy anchor]

I can go some runs to collect candies and lower the cost of either Thundurus or Magikarp by 1 so they both fit my point limit and because of Thundurus' stats it can handle the early game pretty well

[sweet crypt]

That would be a great idea

Especially if you go the extra lengths to grind for their Passives

Drizzle on Thundurus is very strong and allows it to spam Wildbolt Storm with impunity

And Multiscale on Gyarados explains itself

Multiscale in general explains itself

[tardy anchor]

Yeah

Btw how do I farm their candies efficiently cause am relatively new to pokerogue?

[sweet crypt]

Both also have very strong egg moves, like Electro Shot and Sandsear Storm on Thundurus or Dragon Ascent on Magikarp

[sweet crypt]

Mainly just focus on using the Pokemon in question you're grinding candies for

And use Rare Candies on them too

My recent Misdreavus run saw me end the run with like, 132 Misdreavus candies?

[tardy anchor]

Huh what do you mean?

[sweet crypt]

Basically, try to use only the Pokemon you're grinding Candies for

Only switch them out if truly necessary

(This is actually pretty good advice for Pokerogue in general)

Hmm

Chat, do I run Timid or Modest on Walking Wake?

[tardy anchor]

Oooh

[sweet crypt]

Because I want the Speed Boost from Beast Boost to outspeed Mega Rayquaza

But I don't think I OHKO it without the SpA boosts

It may be more viable to hope to get a few Carboses and an X Speed

I mean it doesn't matter too much since I'm bringing Tapu Fini, but still

[tardy anchor]

I think it alone can handle mega rayquaza

[sweet crypt]

Tapu Fini can solo the entire game

I'm just bringing Wake as my main carry because I want to see how it performs overall

[tardy anchor]

Oh

[sweet crypt]

Oh hey, Blue Shiny Bonsly and Togedemaru

I don't have either of those

[tardy anchor]

My best run was till floor 115 at that time I didn't know that you fight enemy team thrice on 112, 114 and 115 I somehow best the first 2 and thought why to heal my pokemons now no really tough battle would happen and my mons would automatically heal after the next 6 floors but then the admin came and ruined my dreams

Had a boss hydreigon

😿

[sweet crypt]

Finally got Shell Smash on Mew, let's fucking go

[sweet crypt]

Ghetsis is the leader of Team Plasma, not an admin

Well he's kinda an admin in BW I guess but he was pulling all the strings

[tardy anchor]

Oh

[sweet crypt]

But yeah Evil Team Leader is always a pain

[tardy anchor]

If I knew that would happen I would have healed my mons and then go into the fight but it just speed blitzed my left over team

[sweet crypt]

Nice, Walking Wake swept Buck's team

The stat trainers can be pretty problematic at times

[sweet crypt]

Yeah overall Walking Wake did carry for everything except for 195 and 200

Like expected

[tardy anchor]

I also got 1 shiny ekans in my radical red playthrough

[sweet crypt]

Zard and Zard X's dex entries (as well as Zard X's design and type) imply that Charizard's heat resistance is actually noticeably lower than its output

Which is part of why it rarely escalates fights to the point where it uses blue flames

Which is pretty cool tbh

[ashen rivet]

Jolyene, is that you...

[sweet crypt]

Oh

Oh no

[tired zinc]

Out of my free daily pack

[supple basalt]

Steals the shiny Umbreon

[craggy leaf]

whats a good emulator for pokemon games? i wanna play black and white and emulate it

[cloud lark]

?tag rule6

[ebon pond]

Make sure to follow the #rules!

Rule 6 DISALLOWED CONTENT: Resources to illegal content (ROMs, pirated movies, etc). We are sure that there are ways and means of finding these that do not involve a Pokémon Fan Game discord server.

[craggy leaf]

ah mb

[coarse estuary]

i do have a few backlog runs but once those are cleared up and done ill start a lineagelocke with siblings clause i think

[lavish dune]

Heart gold nuzlocke- poliwag line or tentacool line

[lavish dune]

https://tenor.com/view/spaghetti-spaghettipocket-awk-awkward-fall-gif-5764543

I horrifically underestimated pryce

[lavish dune]

losing odahviing makes me incredibly nervous

[sweet crypt]

I just had to read Ghetsis' Kingambit's Sucker Punches in Pokerogue

Scariest shit I've ever done in Pokerogue tbh

Mew run so far has had a lot of close calls

All of which would've been avoided if I had Mew's Passive, Protean

Which is exactly why I'm doing the run, I want the candies for Protean

Managed to get Tera Dark though, which solves thoes issues

And it should also allow me to beat Rival 195

Since I'm skeptical on if Mew could OHKO Overqwil at +2 at that level

[sweet crypt]

Yo lfg I got Ice Beam on Sandy Shocks

[tardy anchor]

can anyone tell what does this ring mean?

[sweet crypt]

Pokerus

But since EVs don't exist they just double EXP gain rate instead

[tardy anchor]

ooh

I see

[tardy anchor]

Yo can anyone tell what's the difference between classic mode and daily run

?

[sweet crypt]

You don't pick what you start with for Daily Runs, it's always the same team per day

They also only last like 50 waves

[tardy anchor]

Is it like pre decided or based on the mons I have in my starter list?

[sweet crypt]

Pre-decided

[tardy anchor]

Also what is it's use if it's only 50 waves?

[sweet crypt]

You can get Pokemon you don't have as starters, but they won't be saved as starters

[tardy anchor]

Extra items or something?

[tardy anchor]

Oh I see

[sweet crypt]

There used to be people who'd scout the daily runs to tell people how exactly to RNG Manip for specific shinies or HAs during it

I haven't seen any of their updates in a while but I'm probably just not looking in the right places

You also get an egg voucher for it

But I forgot the rarity of the egg voucher

[tardy anchor]

Hm I see

[sweet crypt]

And usually I play Classic instead since I'm extremely efficient at doing so

With most my runs being about 40 minutes long if I don't get sidetracked

Like 40-50

[tardy anchor]

Oh I was just farming candies for my Thundurus and got to my personal best floor but again got defeated cause my team was like 4 water type mons so I didn't have a great answer

Atleast this time it didn't hurt that much cause I was just farming candies

[sweet crypt]

I've gotten runs in the low 30s too

[tardy anchor]

I see

Atleast now my runs atleast go to the triple digits consistently

[sweet crypt]

I think the time I got would've been between the current 8th and 9th place on the leaderboards?

Y'know if I bothered to submit it to Speedrun.com

It really isn't that difficult to get a run around the 30-35 mark if you have Eternatus

Just that most people don't bother because it's Pokerogue lmao

[tardy anchor]

Damn this game becomes really easy if you unlock strong mons

[sweet crypt]

Yup

[tardy anchor]

I also got my third shiny today

🙂

[sweet crypt]

Once you start doing better and better, the rate at which you hatch eggs also grows

[tardy anchor]

Oh

Btw is tatsugiri good in pokerogue?

[sweet crypt]

And thus, so does the number of good Pokemon you have

Which makes you perform better

Which starts the loop all over

[sweet crypt]

I'm not too sure, I haven't used it

[tardy anchor]

Oh I was just using it and it was pretty decent but idk how it scales in the late game

I also had a Gyarados which was doing the heavy lifting alongside Thundurus

[sweet crypt]

Something I have used and can vouch for though is Flamigo

Flamigo can be caught and unlocked very early in the Lake biome

[tardy anchor]

Oh

[sweet crypt]

One of its base abilities is Scrappy, which allows its Fighting moves to hit Ghost types

It has amazing stats and type for early game, too

And then you throw in its egg moves and passive and it just becomes amazing in the late game too

[tardy anchor]

Hm this time I'll try to catch one

[sweet crypt]

Also Flamigo looks silly

And imagining it ripping apart the entire game is very funny

So that's extra points

[tardy anchor]

Idh any good fairy types besides ig Mawile so am also looking to catching one of those

[tardy anchor]

Yeah that would be pretty hilarious

[sweet crypt]

The Azurill line works pretty well if you can get Huge Power, but at the same time it's a Physical Attacker

Which means it has to use Play Rough, which is one of the most fraudulent moves ever

I fucking hate Play Rough

What's a move with 90 BP doing with 90% accuracy

[tardy anchor]

Lol

[sweet crypt]

Like raise one of these 90s to a 100

[tardy anchor]

I actually found an azumarill but accidentally hit it with a thunder and it got obliterated

[sweet crypt]

Anyways most of the best Pokemon are typically on the harder side to obtain

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Oh

[sweet crypt]

You've got legendaries/mythicals/UBs/Paradoxes like Miraidon or Fini and Hidden Ability reliant Pokemon like Swoobat

And some of these like the already mentioned Fini and Swoobat do also need some amount of unlocks

Swoobat would actually like to have all of its, even

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Is swoobat good?

[sweet crypt]

But Fini can get away with just Recover and QD

[sweet crypt]

Only if you have the Hidden Ability, Passive and Egg Moves

Outside of that it's mid

But with those it's definitely S tier from my experiences

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Oh I thought it's generally good cause I encountered it in the wild

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I see

[sweet crypt]

There's also a bunch of harder to use Pokemon here

For example, frail sweepers like Chien-Pao can be very hard to keep alive

Pseudo Legends like Ttar require early game carries because they struggle in the early game themselves

(With the exceptions of the pretty early Metagross and Garchomp)

[tardy anchor]

I see

[sweet crypt]

(But for Metagross, catching Beldum may be the bigger issue)

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Oh it can be encountered in the wild?

[sweet crypt]

I think I've seen it like

Once or twice

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I thought it can only be hatched

[sweet crypt]

Might've been only in an older version

And even then

Beldum has the catch rate of a Legendary

Catching it isn't exactly easy

[tardy anchor]

Damn

I'll just go and complete some Daily Runs to get egg vouchers I need them to unlock strong mons

[sweet crypt]

But yeah Magikarp and Flamigo are pretty great for beginners precisely because of how they're extremely early to get and pretty strong even without unlocks

So they're pretty easy to candy grind

And can even take down a few gym leaders for vouchers on the way

And with their unlocks they become pretty darn strong

[tardy anchor]

yeah but gyms arent pretty reliable for vouchers

[sweet crypt]

Though neither are a surefire win against the final boss, both are able to beat 195 if you play correctly

And since you only need 1 relatively cheap Pokemon to carry you up to 200, you have the rest of your team for supporting them for extremely dire MUs and defeating the final boss

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OMG

I JUST PULLED A LEGENDARY EGG

damn this machop got a pretty good IV spread

[sweet crypt]

Do you ever think of the fact that Loaded Dice Rock Blast is the 2nd most common Rock move in Competitive Singles?

These mfs are so desperate they're giving up their item slots for an actual STAB move

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lol yeah

[sweet crypt]

It's hard to decide which type is more physically pathetic, Rock with its complete and utter lack of good damage for accuracy, Fairy with a singular shitty, poorly distributed move and Electric which has a clone of Take Down and a clone of Jump Kick

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💀

btw how much time does it take to hatch a Legendary egg?

[sweet crypt]

100 waves

You better pray you don't get abhorrent dogshit like Regigigas or Cosmog from it

Lunala can actually solo the game! ... If you get lucky with actually getting the fucking Moon Flute to appear

And manage to survive with a completely worthless Pokemon in your party until that point

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damn that would be an utter waste

[sweet crypt]

Regigigas is Regigigas, and I don't need to explain it

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cosmog and the latest legendary trio are just completely useless

even in base games

ig cosmog could be good cause it evolves in solgaleo or lunala

[sweet crypt]

World's worst take?

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na the 3 monkeys are horrible

I hate their design

[sweet crypt]

The fuck you mean monkeys

Did I miss a page

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what are those 3 called?

i dont even remember their name

[sweet crypt]

But yeah Lunala would easily be a Top 3 Pokemon for Classic if it didn't start as a Cosmog

It's actually just so free

The only time you need to think is when you see a Bisharp or Kingambit and need to press whatever your left button is to select Terastalisation

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am talking about these garbages

[sweet crypt]

Only one of these is a monkey

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who would see them for the first time and think they would be legendary pokemons?

[sweet crypt]

Anyways Okidogi and Fez are actually pretty good competitively

Munkidori is uhh

Not as good

But I mean

Top 2 in NU means something probably

That probably puts it in the upper half of Legendaries if I'm being real

There's some real stinkers like Regice or Base Calyrex

I wonder what the worst fully evolved Legendary is competitively?

[brisk hedge]

I can kind of see how someone would see okidogi as a monkey, but calling fezandipiti a monkey is worse then calling Raikou, Entei and Suicune dogs

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lol am not that nerdy into pokemon that I would consider a pokemon good if its good competitively I am that type of guy who would use a weaker pokemon in the run even if it looks cool and got a great design

[sweet crypt]

Is it gonna be a Regi? Or is it Calyrex?

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I forgot about the bird

[sweet crypt]

Has to be between Regigigas, Regice and Base Calyrex right?

Even Uxie is way better than these bums

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haxorus > Garchomp am that kind of guy 🙂

[sweet crypt]

But Calyrex has the stupid horses

So Regigigas or Regice I guess idk

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lol yeah

[sweet crypt]

Bro got on a horse and instantly became the most broken Pokemon of all time

(With an asterisk for Gen 1 Mewtwo)

(But I have seen debate over even that)

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yeah Gen 1 Mewtwo and Alakazam were just broken

just speedrun Fire Red with Alakazam

[sweet crypt]

Top 3 Pokemon in RBY is the easiest question of all time

Mewtwo -> Mew -> Tauros

Literally 0 other way around it

FRLG is probably more difficult because Gen 3 is significantly less jank than Gen 1

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I havent really used Tauros in any of my playthroughs

[sweet crypt]

Competitively speaking, if you aren't playing Tauros, you are playing the game wrong

[tardy anchor]

||mostly cause I dont think it looks cool 🫠 ||

[sweet crypt]

Casually speaking there is no wrong of course

But Tauros has a ridiculous stranglehold over Gen 1 OU

There's very few Pokemon as dominant as RBY Snorlax

Well I meant Tauros

But that's true too actually

Snorlax is easy Number 4

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I am the type of guy to pick Charmander knowing Brock would destroy me if I dont catch a pidgey

[sweet crypt]

But like uhh

GSC Snorlax

Uhh

ADV OU Ttar

And uhh

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lol yeah that fatass is broken

[sweet crypt]

Hmm

Does Pdon qualify?

I dont think its rates are in the 80s

So probably not

Yveltal, NDM and Eternatus probably qualify in Gen 8 Ubers

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Oo just got 3 epic eggs

What's like the best Pokemon I could get from it?

[sweet crypt]

Fini with Recover, Fini with Quiver Dance and Fini with Earth Power

Trust the process

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oh

WOW just unlocked an Axew and Bagon!!!

[sweet crypt]

Tera Water Fini with those egg moves genuinely beats 99.999% of battles

Tera Water is only to remove the Poison weakness from Fairy

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I see

[sweet crypt]

The overall best Tera Type for soloing on Fini is Poison

But the idea is you spam Quiver Dance, click Recover and then sweep with Moonblast+Earth Power

If it sounds simple, that's because it is

[tardy anchor]

lol

[broken temple]

tapu fini in pokerouge is nuts

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GGz got an Alakazam early on just floor 32!!

[sweet crypt]

I genuinely almost always have Fini on my runs

Just in case my main carry fails

Because I know for a fact Fini will be able to save the run

The only time I don't bring it is when the main carry is one I have equal or more confidence in

Which is a very short list

Like uhh

Eternatus

And uhh

[tardy anchor]

I think having these 3 at floor 34 is a pretty good start :))

[sweet crypt]

Lugia?

Maybe?

Well tbf I also don't bring it on Dragon type runs

Because I keep forgetting to switch to Telepathy

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damn Water Shuriken on him feels wrong 💀

[sweet crypt]

It's a visual glitch

That's a Shellder, not a Passimian

Wait actually it has Receiver wtf

What kind of glitch is this lmaoo

Let us know if you unlocked Receiver on Shellder because that'd be hilarious

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huh what kind of glitch is this!?

[sweet crypt]

What the

Ok

Nevermind

That was a Passimian

Shellder is the imposter

What the fuck lmao

I haven't seen this ever

[tardy anchor]

huh whats that?

[tardy anchor]

there's more lemme send

[sweet crypt]

Can you check your starter screen to see if this glitch affected anything in actuality?

[tardy anchor]

☠️

[sweet crypt]

Well

[tardy anchor]

I also got 5 Timburr but different mons

[sweet crypt]

One of these are indeed a Kangaskhan

[tardy anchor]

ahm too much pokerouge for the day ig

[sweet crypt]

Can you check your starter screen to see what they actually got? I want to see if this affected anything

Also because getting Ddance on Gible would be MASSIVE

Or Frigibax for that matter

[tardy anchor]

lemme check

[sweet crypt]

Actually does Frigibax get Ddance normally?

As in by level up

I know it gets it via TM

[tardy anchor]

na Gible got Land's wrath

Yeah this could be pretty broken

for just 4 points

[sweet crypt]

Also, while this does still fall under what I meant, technically only Bax does

[sweet crypt]

My issue with Kangaskhan is that it scales very poorly without the Mega

I never like relying on needing a Mega

[tardy anchor]

You think any of these 3 would be good for a run?

[sweet crypt]

I've used Bagon and Gible, and Typically the move I valued the most on both was Dragon Dance

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oh yeah these 2 also

[sweet crypt]

If you get lucky, Bagon gets it via TM

But it is far better for it to be an egg move

On the topic of that

Frigibax is extremely good

Ddance is always good

[tardy anchor]

it got ddance

[sweet crypt]

Precipice Blades is also nice on it

But you don't need it

[tardy anchor]

ig next playthrough I'll carry it

[sweet crypt]

You also don't need to worry too much about the Ice STAB, Bax gets Icicle Crash which is workable

[tardy anchor]

just ddance and steamroll everyone

[sweet crypt]

And Bax's signature move is the Dragon STAB

It makes you take double damage between it and your next attack though so don't use it against things you cannot OHKO

Thankfully, that list is extremely short

[tardy anchor]

how good is she?

[sweet crypt]

You got what is IMO the least important egg move for it

[tardy anchor]

ahm 💀

I forgot what victory dance does

[sweet crypt]

Broken ass move

It's a Physical Quiver Dance

Depending on what you have it on, this could be big

Anyways speaking of Quiver Dance

That's Eternal Floette's Rare Egg Move

And it is its most important move

[tardy anchor]

ahm

this monkey got it

[sweet crypt]

It is one of the better Quiver Dancers based entirely off Eternal Floette having 551 BST and a good type

This is 1 more than the likes of Ogerpon and Volcarona

And 1 less than Florges funnily enough

While Volcarona would normally be the better Quiver Dancer, it attracts far worse switchins than Eternal Floette does

[tardy anchor]

btw how do you evolve Gimmighoul into Gholdengo in this game?

[sweet crypt]

And by far worse switch-ins...