#other-pokemon-games

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unkempt egret
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game almost did a troll but chose wisley there rofl (shame she ended up with Impish so I'm gonna have to mint her down the line)

north vessel
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dayum nice

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Continuing the trend of blue colored mons having pink/purple shinies huh

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Specially those from the gameboy era

unkempt egret
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yea the GB/GBA had a lot of blue -> pink/purple shinies (and amusingly Swalot doing the reverse)

north vessel
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lol

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I just remembered btw

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When I wasn't even 9 and was playing Pokemon pearl, when fighting the Cranidos in the Rock Gym, which I recall being either the first or the last mon that guy had,

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as Mold Breaker activated, and the message popped in the textbox, I was always afraid(in my many retries of the fight) about its effect

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Cause it looked like it was using a move BEFORE it was even our turns

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when it's actually cranidos' ability

unkempt egret
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also yea DP did add that, also that is funny considering most mons aren't even thinking of their abilities at that point in the game

brisk hedge
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That Cranidos does insane damage that early in the game

unkempt egret
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does, base 125 attack with pursuit is nasty

brisk hedge
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Forget pursuit, 70 base power headbutt is insane

frank lily
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Clodsire also has Water Absorb

verbal tundra
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oh

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didnt know that

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either way, preferred wooper

north vessel
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though I barely understood anything I read so

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ssssssshhh

sweet crypt
north vessel
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Funky looking mohawk right there

north vessel
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but no

sweet crypt
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I'd probably catch G-Darm if this is a multiplayer server

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Because typically having a stupidly broken Pokemon to murder people with is good

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If there's nobody to PVP with though, probably doesn't matter

north vessel
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why his face so small

sweet crypt
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I should ask this chat for their opinions on random Pokemon for fun

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What do y'all think of Revavroom?

terse pollen
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It's alright

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It's grown on me

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And Poison/Steel is a cool type combo

north vessel
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I like it way more in its Team Star form ngl

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face could be cooler

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But overall it's good, better than others in this last gen lol

supple basalt
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I wish we could get the Starmobile forms

verbal tundra
wild ore
north vessel
north vessel
unkempt egret
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ngl the best use I'm getting out of Hex Maniac atm is just TM editing since being able to do it per-TM instead of per-pokemon like the older editors had is SO GOOD

unkempt egret
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a small use but good lorde is it saving me so much time with it

sweet crypt
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Would you type it like

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"Blyarg hyarg hyarg"

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Or something

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Is that close enough

verbal tundra
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I personally use Byargh Byargh Byargh

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But for this human old man, I just used Gyah Ha Ha since thats what Toby used

supple basalt
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Hi Xerneas

terse pollen
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Hey what level is that Xerneas

supple basalt
supple basalt
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I'm confused af

terse pollen
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those who know

broken temple
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😭

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the brainrot

rich tundra
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FROGZILLA REAL?

brazen chasm
cloud quartz
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I hope gen 10 is turn based again.

rich tundra
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I mean the legends series are spinoffs so I mean yeah they probably will be

sweet crypt
rich tundra
supple basalt
sweet crypt
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That said L:A turns are WACK

supple basalt
rich tundra
supple basalt
sweet crypt
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I love getting combod by 3 moves in a row!

supple basalt
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Arceus forbid you have a slow pokemon because opponents can then hit you more than one turn in a row!

sweet crypt
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Ngl the fire starter theory has been flimsy since Gen 2

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Cyndaquil isn't based on rats

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And even if you want to use what the pokedex calls it

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1: Blastoise is called a shellfish

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2: Rats aren't mice. They're just closely related.

unkempt egret
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?

verbal tundra
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I whitewashed Ditto

unkempt egret
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the only thing I'm gonna say about that since it feels like another case of "calling out people that aren't here" is that rattata's learned flame wheel as an egg move since gen... two so there's the real fire rat/mouse here lol

sweet crypt
sweet crypt
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Oh also, Fennekin isn't a dog

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It's a fox

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And of course, Skeledirge puts the end to the theory (unless you're delusional)

unkempt egret
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people wanted to say "close enough" because they just wanted something to validate their idea that things were connected (when in reality, they aren't)

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well

verbal tundra
unkempt egret
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the real connection is between the gens themselves but only starting from gen 6 onwards

sweet crypt
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(Real)

verbal tundra
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LEL

unkempt egret
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since gen 6 had RPG classes, gen 7 had... uuuh, gen 8 had "your kid" and gen 9 had... ok maybe that was just gens 6 and 8 that had a starter theme lol

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I don't wanna say "job" for gen 9 because that's basically the same as gen 8 but just less involved

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actually speaking of the zodiac what were we counting as the snake again

unkempt egret
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bless you bulbapedia for having a "list of pokemon by shape" page rofl

sweet crypt
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That's what people say

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But of course, it's stupid

unkempt egret
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the icon for just "head + legs" I cant

sweet crypt
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Even more so than Cyndaquil as a rat or Fennekin as a dog

unkempt egret
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was gonna make a bit about a starter trio of just serpentine bodies but primarina isn't counted for that

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then again this one has some odd ones that do count for that like most slugs, mimikyu, and palossand

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(prim's counted as "pokemon with fins" which fair enough)

sweet crypt
unkempt egret
verbal tundra
terse pollen
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Definitely master ball worthy

verbal tundra
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you know the grass patch before Pewter?

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I made him spawn there

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he is like the only pokemon that spawns there

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he is pretty much Magnemite's evolution now

terse pollen
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wait im goated

verbal tundra
dark prism
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[Weird gurgling] [slowed down fart]

upbeat notch
lavish dune
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yeah i did notice thats basically latias' t1 shiny lol

upbeat notch
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+spdef and -spa basically just means it's latias too lmao

karmic ferry
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Core Enforcer??

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I forgot how wacky Pokérogue can get with its movesets sometimes

lavish dune
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cool taranza pfp, good choice

karmic ferry
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oh thank you! it's his Air Riders icon :3

lavish dune
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i 100% triple deluxe and robobot, i think return to dreamland too. those games kick ass

karmic ferry
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Triple Deluxe was technically what got me into the franchise (through Youtube videos, my actual first game was Robobot)

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and of course I love bugs so Taranza was destined to be a fav of mine from the start

lavish dune
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i think i 100% return twice actually, on the wii then the switch, such a good game

karmic ferry
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I also understand why he simps for Sectonia for so long. if evil why so pretty

karmic ferry
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I LOVE THAT GIF

lavish dune
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does regirock ever get a rate up?

coarse viper
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Galarian Articuno my beloved

verbal tundra
broken temple
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torture

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i bet that pokecenter smells

verbal tundra
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so does the mart

balmy frost
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game name pls

verbal tundra
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Pokemon Lazarus

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Banana

sweet crypt
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Unironically probably better than Tropius

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(In battle)

verbal tundra
verbal tundra
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lmao

smoky gyro
broken temple
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is that a banana

verbal tundra
verbal tundra
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I replaced Tropius with a banana

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that is grass/poison and has the ability levitate

broken temple
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i am lost for words

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i cant wait to catch a banana in my pokemon fire red limited edit TM

smoky gyro
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This is kinda funny

north vessel
sweet crypt
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Spamtong

verbal tundra
noble zealot
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I need to do similar things.

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I remember fooling around in Gen III Suite as a teenager and making a hack that gave the Hoenn starters (or at least Treecko) branched evos

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There was the normal line, but then there was Treecko > Tropius > Rayquaza

smoky gyro
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Ah yes, fair and balanced

verbal tundra
broken temple
verbal tundra
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both I guess?

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the intention is to make them uninteractable

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Im just cutting out some trainers lol

sweet crypt
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I dont have any spriting ability but I do have funny ideas for stats and abilities

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I may actually try to create them some day

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It'd be funny

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There's resources to add moves and abilities from newer generations

broken temple
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ngl

brisk hedge
verbal tundra
mortal stirrup
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i think map in gen 10 is based in Indonesia

sweet crypt
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Gen 10 isn't even out yet

broken temple
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gen 10 will be fully in a virtual world simulating the current landscape
the main villians will be AI trying to take over the world
just to be topical

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i work at nintendo

sweet crypt
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Real

brisk hedge
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Gen 9 already gave us an AI villain (well, sort of)

balmy frost
verbal tundra
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Surge City

broken temple
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at this point you can make a shitpost romhack

verbal tundra
verbal tundra
broken temple
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im sure theres a market for that

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just include actual gameplay inbetween of the shitposts

sweet crypt
broken temple
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i only remember the offensive one

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from way back then

verbal tundra
sweet crypt
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Would Too Many Types count as a shitpost hack

broken temple
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ye thats fair

broken temple
sweet crypt
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Idk though there's types like Gun, Sans and Silly + Little + Guys

verbal tundra
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I would say its a shitpost

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but its pretty good ngl

sweet crypt
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My only problem with it is that I'm too used to knowing what move to click

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And now there's like 50 new type matchups to remember

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It's part of why I don't like stuff like Sound, Light or Cosmic types

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Though for the former 2, it also disrupts a lot of existing moves

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For the Cosmic Type though there's only like 1 non-signature move that'd be cosmic type

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And that's a status move

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So who gives a shit really

verbal tundra
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honestly when it comes to the too many types, I just dont bother lol

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and choose what I like

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too many types 2 was easier with sans around

unkempt egret
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TMT2 feels like a lot more of a shitpost (affectionate) than the first TMT was from what I've seen lol

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also my nuz brain more just "uuuh" at the idea of basically everything having x4 if not x8 weaknesses lol

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good idea, just not my cup of tea

sweet crypt
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23 hours and 57 minutes to 2026 for me

verbal tundra
sweet crypt
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Yup

verbal tundra
unkempt egret
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I'm still in the 30th lol

terse pollen
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whats the future like

noble zealot
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It's only noon on the 30th here 😭

verbal tundra
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And cold

void lynx
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Someone has a gulpin in pokemon scarlet ?

lavish dune
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man i selected regirock what the hell

rugged comet
vital bramble
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Got a really stupid idea cooking
Ursaluna already uses Tera ghost sometimes to avoid fighting types and fake out
What if you gave a whimsicott fling and a flame orb? You could activate guts and a weakness policy in one go
Alternatively, if you're squeamish about a whims without a defensive item, you could give it to sneasler so it can activate unburden with it

sweet crypt
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How many Weaviles does it take to hunt a Mamoswine?

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Based on the Pokedex entry, I'd imagine that in a 1 on 1, Mamoswine never loses

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But would 2 suffice?

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The Kamaitachi hunt in groups of 3, so maybe 3 is enough

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Or would there need to be 4?

ember flower
sweet crypt
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I'm feeling the answer is 3

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Mainly because that way it's based off the inspiration

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Also what is this fucking quote from the Shield dex entry

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"It looks strong, and that's exactly what it is"

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💀

coarse estuary
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so i wanna play xd for the first time ever. would it be better to do the og first before playing a hack like xg or is the og so bad that a hack is the only good way to play it?

sweet crypt
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Considering how all the praise I've heard for XD, you'll probably be fine playing the OG

smoky gyro
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Cloyster moment lmao

verbal tundra
full marsh
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What game is this one?

verbal tundra
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oh this is just me messin around with the fire red rom using the hex maniac advance lol

verbal tundra
verbal tundra
broken temple
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is this a cult thing

verbal tundra
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more like a species thing

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also I think may have broke Lt Surge

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like the main one

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cuz when I set his battle to one of the npcs in the gym, it makes him think I already beated him

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I already reticified this by changing to a random npc but he still think I already got the badge lol(even after I updated it and delete and try again)

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should have saved before I battled the surges

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bleh, I will just use a cheatcode to get the badge or something, maybe fix this in the future

verbal tundra
void lynx
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Someone has a gulpin in pokemon scarlet ?

sweet crypt
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Doing the Mono Grass Random Run

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Not only do I have no way to beat Mega Ray but the rival has a Fire starter

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Chat

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Am I cooked?

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Additionally my best mon for Eternatus is Tera Sunflora

sweet crypt
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Man everything has a SE coverage/STAB for Iron Leaves

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I guess that's what I signed up for when I decided a Grass/Psychic type would be my main carry

verbal tundra
verbal tundra
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with fire

sweet crypt
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Bro a Chandelure with Torch Song just tried to murder my ass wtf

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Pokerogue does NOT want me to win

sweet crypt
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(His Pikachu got the Focus Band proc twice)

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(1% btw)

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How did Iron Leaves just solo Incineroar, Hydreigon, Mega Rayquaza, Staraptor and Vikavolt (well and Alakazam but who cares about that last bozo)

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I didn't even use Tera

verbal tundra
sweet crypt
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Alright

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So I have HEAVILY underestimated Iron Leaves

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It literally carried the entire run

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Wait I'm only 5 runs away from beating every Type and Generation in Pokerogue while randomising my Pokemon

verbal tundra
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wild

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I tried Pokerogue once

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died not very long after

noble zealot
verbal tundra
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this look like it came from Pokemon My Ass lmao

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I played that when I was young

noble zealot
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I think I played up to Pewter on that one

verbal tundra
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damn

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I recall this romhack was the one where the protagonist keeps slapping the rival's ass

noble zealot
verbal tundra
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cannibalism

verbal tundra
noble zealot
lavish dune
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oh hell yeah

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baller IVs from a rando egg

unkempt egret
lavish dune
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it always is for rocks

unkempt egret
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imagine if the other trapping moves worked like salt cure where instead of trapping they persist after the user is gone

lavish dune
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but the only moves for him i know are ||stone axe and Body Press||

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im just trying for a shiny ngl, sandstream passive is more annoying than helpful in most cases and rock's t2 is so pretty

terse pollen
honest sorrel
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Finally got this bad boy after 5 hours

unkempt egret
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feesh

terse pollen
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fih

delicate hollow
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Was Sword and Shield the first in the series where wild Pokemon levels can be as high as 60?
What if DLC were accessible early ie before 2nd or 3rd gym badge will wild encounters levels scale or remain the same?

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I'm also gonna include the recent entry as well (SV) as you will find mostly level 60+ wild Pokemon including starter first stage mons

broken temple
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techincally you can find a level 100 magikarp in gen 5

verbal tundra
broken temple
delicate hollow
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Yeah there's the infamous level 100 magikarp but I was thinking of common/rare encounters where levels range from 1 to 100

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If u wanted gyarados at level 100 catch a level 99 magikarp and level it up with a rare candy
Then teach it powerful moves from a move tutor

lavish dune
unkempt egret
# broken temple

same thing for gen 4 as well in the resort area I think? tempted to say there are some other wild mons above level 60 before gen 8 but mostly in either postgame or (in XY's case) lategame?

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for wilds at all I think the highest non-100 level is a level 86 tera lampent in gen 9's Kitikami?

lavish dune
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i can never tell if vivillion is shinyt

lavish dune
sweet crypt
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Hey chat I'm in 2026

sweet crypt
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And both are honestly strong enough to be Rare Egg Moves

terse pollen
sweet crypt
terse pollen
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wow

noble zealot
noble zealot
terse pollen
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What game is this

wild ore
terse pollen
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holy crap

noble zealot
terse pollen
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Oh cool

tawdry pendant
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Any good gen 7 rom hacks?

terse pollen
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Increased difficulty, more pokemon, and other cool stuff

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I recommend it

tawdry pendant
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Ok thank tou

tawdry pendant
terse pollen
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What are you having trouble with?

tawdry pendant
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The instructions given from the creator is confusing me and idk what to do

terse pollen
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Are you confused about how you apply the Rom to a regular game?

tawdry pendant
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To patch it

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I cant find the file im supposed to use to patch them

terse pollen
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Oh yeah it's hard to find in that forum post

tawdry pendant
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I have the original ultramoon.3ds file

terse pollen
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Find this area in the forum post and click on the blue "here"

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It should open up a google drive where you can get the patch file

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It took me way too long to find it when I downloaded it for the first time

tawdry pendant
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I tried that

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But the instructions in the google drive confused the hell out of me

terse pollen
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What are you going to play this on

tawdry pendant
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My laptop

terse pollen
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Do you have Citra?

tawdry pendant
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Using citra

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Yeah

terse pollen
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I see

tawdry pendant
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If its easier i can use something else this is just the first emulator i thought of

terse pollen
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There's only a guide for citra on the google doc so I think using it is the best choice

tawdry pendant
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Oh alr

terse pollen
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So you downloaded the ultra sun file, then did you download the patch file?

tawdry pendant
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I have the rebalenced file

terse pollen
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Right

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After you unzip it, look inside for the "Luma" Folder

tawdry pendant
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I see it

terse pollen
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Open it, inside should be a folder named “00040000001B5000” or “00040000001B5100” depending on your version of the game

tawdry pendant
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I got b5100

terse pollen
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Great, open it

tawdry pendant
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Ok i have 2 files

terse pollen
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Fantastic

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Leave that open for later

tawdry pendant
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Ok

terse pollen
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Now open Citra and look for your Ultra Sun file on it

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Is it there on the main menu of Citra

tawdry pendant
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No

terse pollen
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Ok, you need to set up a folder with the Ultra Sun file in it and then make it the Citra game folder

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You do that by double clicking and selecting the file like it says on the menu

tawdry pendant
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So i double click and what do i do now?

terse pollen
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Did it open up a place where you can select folders

tawdry pendant
terse pollen
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Yes, so select the folder with the Ultra Sun file in it

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That will be the folder that Citra will use to find games you downloaded

tawdry pendant
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Could the folder be any folder?

terse pollen
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Yes

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I would make a seperate folder for the games just for organization

tawdry pendant
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I created a new folder and put the ultramoon file in but it doesnt show up on citra

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But shows up in the same folder when i open my normal files

terse pollen
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That's weird, did you select that file for Citra?

tawdry pendant
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Wdym

terse pollen
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Can you show me what your Citra menu looks like right now

tawdry pendant
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Thats the folder with the moon file

terse pollen
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But what does the Citra Menu look like? Does it say you selected a folder or does it say you still need one

tawdry pendant
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Wait it showed nothing but i hit select folder and it shows the pokemon ultra moon

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But it says it has bad compatibility

terse pollen
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There we go

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Bad compatibility?

tawdry pendant
terse pollen
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I googled it, it might have something to do with your system specs

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But it also might not be a problem

tawdry pendant
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It is a pretty bad laptop so probably the reason

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But what should i do now?

terse pollen
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Ok now you right click on the ultra sun icon in Citra and click "Open Mod Location"

tawdry pendant
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Done

terse pollen
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Now copy the "romfs" and "code.ips" files from the earlier b5100 folder and paste them there

tawdry pendant
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Can i move it do i have to actually copy them

terse pollen
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You can move them, just left click on one, then right click and select "copy"

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Then right click in the mod location folder and click "paste"

tawdry pendant
terse pollen
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I think you moved the entire folder instead of just the files

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You shouldn't be moving the b5100 folder there, just the files inside of it

tawdry pendant
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If i press delete on these will it delete on the one i copied it from?

terse pollen
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No

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Nevermind I misunderstood you're doing fine

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I'm sorry I got confused

tawdry pendant
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Huh

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So i can repaste the same files?

terse pollen
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Yeah just do what you did earlier I got confused and thought you moved the b5100 folder but you didn't

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I have to go, I'll be back in a little bit so hold tight okay?

tawdry pendant
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Oh ok theyre back

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Alr take your time

terse pollen
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This is the next part

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It's pretty self explanatory

tawdry pendant
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Wait by “navigate to your copy of the title update that means to go to the romfs and code.ips files?

terse pollen
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I don't think so, no

tawdry pendant
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Idk what to do when i hit install cia

terse pollen
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What do you see when you hit install cia

tawdry pendant
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It takes me to the folder thats supposed to have the ultra moon file in it

terse pollen
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I don't really remember, but you should try using romfs or code.ips files

tawdry pendant
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Wait i moved them how do i get to them

terse pollen
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I looked a little further and you have to download the 1.2 update seperately

tawdry pendant
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How do i do that?

terse pollen
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When you installed the rom of the game, did it say what version it was?

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If it said version 1.2 it might already be updated

tawdry pendant
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No i dont think so

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How would i check?

terse pollen
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Find the website you got the rom from

tawdry pendant
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Ultra moon or the one for prismatic moon

terse pollen
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Ultra Moon

tawdry pendant
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I honestly don’t remember

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Where i got it

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Im pretty sure it was from citra

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Citras says version 1.0

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Do i need to download version 1.2?

terse pollen
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I'm sorry, I'm not sure how to help from here on out, but I do know there's some communities on Discord that would help you more

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I'm sorry it took me a long time to respond and that I also can't help you much

tawdry pendant
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Can you show me the discord servers that could help me

terse pollen
lavish dune
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mushrom

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any splices to be made?

noble zealot
supple basalt
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Much pink

supple basalt
past cairn
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Oh god

past cairn
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Loudest crack ever

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Shatters windows

supple basalt
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Pfft

smoky gyro
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I wonder

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Can you baton pass defense curl?

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Like specifically the x2 rollout damage part

daring juniper
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The Hex Maniacs do get a bit Battle-Towery at night.

Gen 1 expanded dex hex maniac team ideas.
Names, from left to right, top to bottom.

  • The 6 senses
  • Creeps
  • Grief
  • Therapy
  • Smoke & Mirrors
  • Chilling Wind
  • Paralyzed with fear
past cairn
inland crane
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had my first full showdown battle

north vessel
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Starting this base for real

noble zealot
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I wish Apricorn seeds had a higher drop rate.

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I can pick several trees clean and still get nothing.

north vessel
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yeah it's so ass

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It's gotta be less than 10% per apricorn

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tried to decorate from the start but it's not my thing

north vessel
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only bad thing I didn't like is how all mons from the same species seem to share the very same Ride stats

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caught some gogoats to see which one would be faster but no

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There's a difference between wyrdeer and gogoat for example though, but rip

lavish dune
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ATTA BOY

sweet crypt
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It's so funny to me that MissingNo's an absolute fraud

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Like bottom 3 glitchmons of all time in terms of stats

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And the top tiers tend to look something like this

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Eternamax Eternatus still low diffs though

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Bro's best Ground STAB is Bone Club 💀

north vessel
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wasn't too far off though

lavish dune
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counter regirock and guerilla tactics darmanitan ftw

sturdy herald
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if anyone here knows a way to do a randomizer on pokemon black 2 let me know. I've got pokemon black 2 running on DeSmuME and dont know how to randomize it

main rune
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This would go into the file sharing rule

terse pollen
main rune
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It's one of those better safe than sorry things. Github is quite literally a file/project sharing platform and we can't go through and check every single link

terse pollen
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Fair enough

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My bad then

main rune
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All good. No harm done happo

sweet crypt
proven abyss
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Anyone else here?

verbal tundra
#

Changed the Celadon Gym Perv lol

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self aware grunt

verbal tundra
verbal tundra
broken temple
coarse estuary
simple oxide
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This is stretching the definition of "pokemon game" but uhhh
Shiny chololate

unkempt egret
#

nice nice

livid hare
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was there a johto version of the pif or did the jump to hoen

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i started when the hoen game was being announced

split yoke
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Woo! Got a shiny!
But I honestly kinda like the original colors more.

unkempt egret
#

I was gonna say the og colors make me think of diancie there

split yoke
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Yeah

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And now, I got... pale blue and green

unkempt egret
#

I do like that shade of teal for what it's worth but

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...no pun intended lol

split yoke
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Have to say, I love that Vanguard put in a quest journal. I was about to need to restart.

unkempt egret
#

nice nice

verbal tundra
# coarse estuary w safety dance

I was listening to the song when I was thinking of what to replace in the sign lol. So many of the pokemon signs are just tips and tricks which seems boring

simple oxide
vague pebble
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Anyone playing pokemon Recordkeepers?

supple basalt
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No clue what that is

coarse estuary
#

i think i found the perfect xy hack for me its not to hard like the difficulty hacks but its a step up from vanilla and rebalances the trainers

smoky gyro
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Why did my anger shell not proc

supple basalt
inland crane
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And Sevii Islands too

supple basalt
#

Hoenn is the sequel and is currently a WIP

sweet crypt
verbal tundra
broken temple
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brainrot fire red

north vessel
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nice view

inland crane
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anyways dedenne ily please keep outspeeding legendary dragons

sweet crypt
inland crane
sweet crypt
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I've heard that Electric is one of the weaker types in Monotype

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Seeing you use Mono Electric, what do you think about it?

inland crane
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idk im new

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but isnt that bad i guess since there isnt much anti-electric types

sweet crypt
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I can't imagine Electric enjoys the Dragon MU

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I know you're using Deddene but I'm pretty sure Archaludon and H-Goodra are like, the 2 best Dragons on Mono Dragon

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But I mean in low ladder people probably aren't running the meta

sweet crypt
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Anyways random Electric Monotype run in Pokerogue is complete

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Tapu Koko carried

coarse estuary
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time to start my nuzlocke of xy rebirth. excited to see how it goes

coarse estuary
# plain ravine And? Hows it going

not been able to play much yet but rn im getting the last 2 encounters and getting candies in before going to see the first new trainer in gym 1.

delicate hollow
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Is there many rom hacks where we can do egglocke challenge runs?
I know what an egglocke is but this involves "hacking" or gen-ing an egg of random first stage mons but as it is a nuzlocke variant we can produce as many eggs as the PC storage system allows

delicate hollow
#

What?

sweet crypt
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Oh my god who let a 7 year old into this server

smoky gyro
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How did he outspeed me

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Doesnt unaware ignore speed boosts

sweet crypt
smoky gyro
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Why the heck does it not

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That is so confusing

sweet crypt
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Got Lunala early in the Pokerogue run

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For once I have good RNG

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Anyways Lunala swept the entire rest of the run

north vessel
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W

cedar dragon
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im playing pokémon renegade platinum qnd i can't defeat the oreburgh gym the cranidos is kicking my ass how do i bit

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i have riolu 17 and fire starter 15 idk the name

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anyone pls help

peak kite
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I caught @past cairn heehee

cedar dragon
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anyone knows?

frank lily
split yoke
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Shiny Vanguard Charmeleon. Yay.

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No. I still prefer the carbink colors.

terse pollen
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What is that from

split yoke
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Pokemon Vanguard

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Like this Riolu!

terse pollen
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Awesome

simple quartz
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Is that Fighting/Fairy

terse pollen
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Looks like Fighting/Psychic

sweet crypt
simple quartz
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Wow what a downgrade

brisk hedge
hard plume
noble zealot
terse pollen
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slavery

smoky gyro
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Is physical sceptile that good

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With sharpness

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But its nerfed to 20%

sweet crypt
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It's mf Sceptile

smoky gyro
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Why did they give one of the best sprites to one of the worst mons-

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Fml

inland crane
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Give me a fraud and give me a lot of potions, I may conquer a gym after that.

coarse estuary
#

i alway found it funny how in xy you can skip the pokecenter tutorial by just never going into the gym 1 town pokecenter

coarse estuary
#

Wanna do a new casual playthrough, should I do bw1 or rby

unkempt egret
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up to you but my vote is for rby, why not

brisk hedge
coarse estuary
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Well so far bw1 has 2 votes rby has 3 whatever one gets to 5 first is what I'll do

unkempt egret
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aight

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as a side note I'm not super comitted to RBY so if BW gets four I'm willing to change to bump it up to 5 lol

supple basalt
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I vote bw1 just because with all the movement updates

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Going back to a time before running shoes even

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Is awful

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.

unkempt egret
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BW be schmoovin even beyond the overworld movement yea

coarse estuary
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Ok 4 bw1 3rby

unkempt egret
#

rofl I dunno why but that and XY reminded me that HP depletion speed in XY sometimes depended on what move you were using?

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I remember that some moves (bulldoze specifically) made HP deplete far faster than it normally would in terms of animation

supple basalt
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It depends on how much HP the pokemon has in relation to the move used against it

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It's still like that in gen 9

unkempt egret
#

maybe, hmm

coarse estuary
#

Ok bw1 won. Time to craft up a silly Gen 5 team

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Might try to use a cottonee or a foongus as my grass type if I don't decide on my fave Gen 5 starter

unkempt egret
#

good choices

sweet crypt
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Oh wait I was taking too long

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Uhh

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Shit

brisk hedge
supple basalt
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Yeah but I usually give rby some slack since they're on the gbc and frlg are on the gba

unkempt egret
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FRLG does have the running boots but not until post-brock from what I recall

inland crane
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Which is like a couple minutes assuming you didn't have a team of Charmander, Pikachu and Weedle

unkempt egret
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yea if you're not doing a nuzlocke that's not much time at all (especially since I recall FRLG retains yellow's change of adding Mankey to the pre-brock routes)

coarse estuary
#

Always get a chuckle out of any time I see someone with an under leveled Mon click a super effective move then wonder why it won't ohko

smoky gyro
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Fuck me I guess

coarse estuary
#

since my friends wanna be jerks to me and just hit me with the its a casual run use what you want, would you folks on discord be more willing to give suggestions on what mons to have on my casual bw1 team. i already decided on emboar and leipard.

unkempt egret
#

hmmm how about cofagrigus? could be fun to try

coarse estuary
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maybe but dark and ghost are pretty similar matchups wise

unkempt egret
#

riiight yea you got liepard

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how about carracosta then? since I usually see archen revived instead

sweet crypt
sweet crypt
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Just got the world's most broken Roaring Moon in my Mono Dark run

sweet crypt
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And that's Fairy defeated as well

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Tapu Lele is a wee bit broken

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But tbf I did have to use a weird strat for Eternatus since Lele wouldn't be able to beat it itself

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Well

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Consistently, that is

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Definitely could defeat Eternatus by itself but not 100% of the time

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And if a strat doesn't have a 100% chance of working I'm not gonna use it

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What now though?

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I sure as hell am not gonna attempt Random Nuzlocke

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Heck I'm not willing to attempt either of the Fresh Start runs with random

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Since they both involve catching a bunch of stuff

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And with the rules I set in place for Random, I'm not allowed to add anything onto my team

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And if I remove that rule it's just not different enough

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Since like I mentioned, the run heavily relies around catching other Pokemon

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So at worst the early game is slightly harder

quasi linden
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There's a pokemon fangame which has a mode where it fills your PC with random eggs, but I can't remember what it is. I don't think it's Infinite Fusion because I couldn't find it, but I thought I'd ask here just incase

nova marlin
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its Rayray

coarse estuary
quasi linden
coarse estuary
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any time

tame gyro
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Anyone free to lend a hand with a small project? I just need a single question answered.

coarse estuary
#

decided emolga will be the 3rd memeber of my latest white casual team

proud rose
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do yalll prefer open areas or smaller routes

sweet crypt
supple basalt
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Oh I was in the wrong channel mb

verbal tundra
verbal tundra
verbal tundra
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I just put this randomly with no context lol, this design did always give me the typical Singaporean Uncle vibe

verbal tundra
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LOL, I just figured how to change the starters

verbal tundra
#

ok someone suggested adding Berdly to the romhack and making him a flying type lol

verbal tundra
delicate hollow
#

How's this for a rom hack
A completely new and original "fan made (or it could be a custom built)" region featuring all of the original 1025 Pokemon
Brand new and original characters made for the region
A brand new place after finishing the game where you battle all of the original/official characters from the OG series like from the Kanto gym leaders/rivals/evil team leader (Giovanni)/Elite 4 and champion (in this case it's Blue) all the way to the Paldea league etc and I'm not naming everyone as it takes a long time to type the list and think of this as Black 2 and White 2 PWT (Pokemon World Tournament) but you battle in a large arena and you will also battle against this regions own main gym leaders rivals antagonist leader and Elite 4 + champion etc.

I'm thinking... if this were a GBA rom hack that would be a very large game file so maybe a PC fan game is the best place to create the game?
I hope this comes true though and it will take more than a year to build everything with all the tilesets and the map layout to look perfect such as the towns, cities, routes or areas/zones if we wanna go "open world" exploration etc.

verbal tundra
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probably best to make a fangame

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Idk if a romhack can contain that much

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also there is a fangame where you play as Ash Ketchum and journey from Kanto to Galar

verbal tundra
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Pokemon Ashfire if I recall

sly anvil
#

Vivillion sprite I made (with help) for Moemon Project MoeBulbaJoy

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and a mega abomasnow

spice pilot
#

I am playing Pokemon Sword version and I am commenting while selling a Rare Bone at PokeMart. I said, "A BONE? I cannot make a stew out of a bone!" I was smiling while saying that stuff and I started laughing afterwards.

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Because that is silly! How can you make a stew out of a bone? 😄

upbeat root
unkempt egret
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Rom

sly anvil
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We have fangame spriteswaps too for reborn and reju

upbeat root
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Thank

sly anvil
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and im working on a couple fangame spriteswaps myself

unkempt egret
#

also with Rare Bones in gen 8 all I can think of is saving them since with the DLC four rare bones makes you a wishing stone which is a key component of The Den Loop

spice pilot
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ah

unkempt egret
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if you don't have DLC they're good selling tho

spice pilot
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never thought of that

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yeah

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I may have made a big mistake, though, selling them withought thinking about the rewards

sly anvil
unkempt egret
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yea it's basically raid in Isle of Armor (or crown tundra but IoA is preferred) -> digging sister on IoA -> digging brothers in maingame -> bone conversion -> isle of armor raiding

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but once you get into one part of it (usually on the digging sister hitting a streak) then it's easy to get back into the chain

upbeat root
unkempt egret
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also on moemon, also gonna point out FRLG as well as one you'll be able to use it with

sly anvil
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ye we have frlg vanilla spriteswaps

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does it count as self promo to say that the links are all in our Moemon Project discord and on our tumblr i dont want to break the rules

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so many people have asked about a moemon infinite fusion but we do not have the power for fusions MoeLaugh

verbal tundra
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made a title screen for my romhack

thorn token
verbal tundra
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Im not sure

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Sorry

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Only heard of it on youtube

coarse estuary
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ok grinding up my simipour so it matches the rest of the team then going to do the story and burgh. after that i can go get emola and my team will have as much as it can until i can beat clay

coarse estuary
verbal tundra
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my bad

coarse estuary
verbal tundra
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I gave Liquor Magician the wrong name

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probably why they were searching with that name

thorn token
verbal tundra
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hope you enjoyed it!!! heard its a long game

thorn token
verbal tundra
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Have fun!!!

verbal tundra
broken temple
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this is a hall of fame

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fo sure

verbal tundra
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added the Freddy line

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and added these two

broken temple
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you are pretty much playing with legos with pokemon

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💀

smoky gyro
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I only just realized garbodors name has odor in it

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Ive always wondered why its not garbordor

broken temple
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and trubbish has rubbish in it

smoky gyro
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I am smart, dont worry

verbal tundra
#

also Im done making this romhack, Im gonna chill now

meager jetty
#

Hello people I need help to evolve my scyther to scizor in pokemon scarlet, any person help me, sorry for my bad english XD

inland crane
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No use eviolithe scyther

unkempt egret
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I can help when I get back home in about 3 hours

coarse estuary
#

thinking of doing a looplocke. should i do it in usum or oras?

unkempt egret
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hmmmm, I'm feeling mean today so how about USUM?

coarse estuary
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usum is only mean if i am running a really hard ruleset.

supple basalt
#

USUM is one of the more difficult games to nuzlocke because of Ultra Necrozma, but you get a lot of encounters pretty fast

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ORAS is easier than USUM

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If you really wanna be a glutton for punishment, nuzlocke Platinum >:)

sweet crypt
#

I think the general consensus is that USUM are the hardest mainline games to nuzlocke, no?

supple basalt
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I think Platinum is overall the more difficult game but USUM is very high on the difficulty list. I also don't know where BDSP and Legends Arceus are on that list

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Legends sounds difficult to nuzlocke because trainers can gang up on you

sweet crypt
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I was trying to route for USUM once and holy shit every single totem is a nightmare to route for

supple basalt
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Oh yeah 100%

sweet crypt
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Also your ruleset for the early game really decides how fucked you are

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They should rename Pinwheel clause to Alola Route 1 Clause is all I'm gonna say on this matter

supple basalt
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With mainline pokemon games in the chance I do a nuzlocke, this is my general ruleset

  • One pokemon per area
  • Multiple Area Clause
  • Death is upon us
  • Nickname
  • Dupes Clause
  • Dragon Rage Clause (for randomizers)
  • Shiny Clause
  • Static Clause (Gifts and statics count as separate encounters)
sweet crypt
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Tbf I'm sure people do actually call them seperate things even though the clause in concept is the same

supple basalt
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Multiple areas listed on the screen when you switch to that area ARE on the same route, so I count them as separate encounters Is this route 1 clause? XD

sweet crypt
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Basically Pinwheel Forest and Alola Route 1 are so big people consider them as multiple areas

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Every area up to and including Trainer School counts as Route 1 according to the game

supple basalt
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Even though it's all route 1

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So yeah I'll put "Route 1 clause" in my list

sweet crypt
#

So yeah basically people said "Man this shit's ass we're gonna consider this as multiple areas so that the early game isn't miserable"

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To oversimply things

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Tbh in my routing I was less worried about Necrozma than Araquanid since I figured I'd be able to get enough Steel types to just toxic stall it for a worst case scenario

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Or y'know simply pray to RNGesus to get a Zorua

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That said Unec can usually 2-3 shot even on a Resist

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Which is scary as fuck

supple basalt
#

I need to play ultra moon again. I downloaded Citra, played Alpha Sapphire for a day and then was like meh don't feel like it

sweet crypt
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I remember seeing someone say Bisharp does very well into Necrozma since it resists/is immune to all of Necrozma's moves

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It doesn't

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As in it doesn't do well

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Dragon Pulse is a 2HKO, OHKO with a crit

supple basalt
#

Bisharp has terrible stats

sweet crypt
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Just that a weakness of Bisharp is its special bulk

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Which isn't great vs an omniboosted Pokemon with a level advantage and y'know

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167 SpA

coarse estuary
supple basalt
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Oh does Pinwheel forest have multiple areas (with area names on screen)

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Stuff like Kanto's route 2 wouldn't be counted separately because both sides of Viridian forest say Route 2 on screen

coarse estuary
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the clause is named that because both the outside and inside of pinwheel forest have the same name but all the encounters are different

supple basalt
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I don't remember Pinwheel Forest that much

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I only consider things different area if the text on screen says so lol

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Each area of Alola's route 1 has a different name when you go to it on screen blobshrug

sweet crypt
#

How does Ultra Necrozma work with a level cap anyways

coarse estuary
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yeah usually how that clause works is if 2 areas have the same name (ie route 1 in alola) but different encounters then you are allowed to count it as a seperate location and get an encounter there

supple basalt
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Though I did recently discover Mt Moon's different floors all count for separate encounters XD

sweet crypt
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Do you just use the level cap of the next boss

coarse estuary
sweet crypt
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Because I mean Unec's level cap is the same as the Champion's isn't it

supple basalt
coarse estuary
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pretty much

sweet crypt
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In fact

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Totem Ribombee is also a bit weird with level caps

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At least based off what I'm referring to

coarse estuary
#

well yeah its also weird since the ribombe cap is 55 but the hapu cap is 54

sweet crypt
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Because it's level 55 and Hapu who is supposedly fought after is level 54

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Also why does it have a fucking double omniboost

supple basalt
#

I think all totem pokemon are a bit weird.

Who's the harder bosses?

A.Raticate or Gumshoos
Araquanid or Wishiwashi
A.Marowak or Salazzle

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I don't remember what other totem battles have splits between the version

coarse estuary
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you are remembering wrong. the only totem that has a version split is totem 1. the other 2 you mention are ones that were changed in the ultra verisons

supple basalt
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Oh I was thinking of sun and moon

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Then

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First game then

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🙃

coarse estuary
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yeah wishi salaz and vika are totems in sun moon but are replaced with araqua, maro and toged in usum

supple basalt
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Which is annoying. Steel type is annoying

coarse estuary
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well toged is annoying if you dont get a bulky ground type or anything that can use a ground move

supple basalt
#

Ultra games have Dusk Lycanroc so they're better by default

unkempt egret
#

late but ultra necro does have some cheese strats but USUM's general formula hits most of SM's rough points while adding some of its own

supple basalt
#

First G7 games didn't have Dusk lol

coarse estuary
#

it was for sure hardest totem in my no dealing direct damage run

woeful mantle
unkempt egret
#

enemy EVs make gen 7 unconditionally harder than any other gen imo (besides BDSP which also has em)

sweet crypt
supple basalt
sweet crypt
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(... Wait, actually, I kinda do, can't you just Toxic it with Salazzle or something?)

unkempt egret
#

BDSP is kinda like ORAS actually

coarse estuary
unkempt egret
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in that most of it isn't too bad until the endgame starts kicking nuclear footballs around

sweet crypt
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So the problem was RNG

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Y'know what that makes sense

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RNG is a bitch

coarse estuary
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if you wanna know bout the steel type being hard ask molayne since it took me 1 hour to kill 1 of his mons

supple basalt
#

The difference between BDSP and USUM with its difficulty is the game isn't relatively easy in comparison to the Elite 4. The base game actually MATCHES the difficulty of the E4

BDSP is an easy game until you hit the E4 with competitively built high IV teams. It's out of nowhere

unkempt egret
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I think the main location I count as separate that most don't is Mt. Pyre's indoors and outdoors

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yea I was thinking of ORAS doing that, USUM actually cools down a little bit for its E4 compared to necro and (to an extent) ribombee

supple basalt
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ORAS kinda does that but I think the difficulty curve is more evened out than BDSP

unkempt egret
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yea ORAS was more steven going "hey catch this mega metagross lol"

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then again it's probably more fair of a fight if you don't have megas banned like my runs do lol

coarse estuary
#

i do wish though oras fixed the megas issue that xy had where you faught 2 total before the post game

unkempt egret
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(save for the ones below 560 BST like banette, audino, ||and now chimecho|| )

supple basalt
#

Lol yeah

I don't remember which Mega I used against Steven though I'm 90% sure I murdered his mega metagross with crit hax Absol

unkempt egret
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yea it wasn't really until legends ZA that you fought a lot of em in maingame

supple basalt
#

I never mega Absol because Super Luck and Scope Lens are vital to his moveset XD

sweet crypt
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Iirc when I was playing Omega Ruby I had absolutely 0 honour and rolled up with Groudon to pulverise Steven's as

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Playing fair? Pfft

unkempt egret
#

we respect the sniper build

coarse estuary
#

which its like bruh why make megas the game gimic if you are not going to have more than 2 fights in the main story have one. like bro its so bad. at least for the other gimics after xy there are more than 2 trainers the entire game that use em

sweet crypt
#

I probably should play ORAS again except not just instantly murder shit with Pdon

unkempt egret
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yea the other 3 games all use theirs a lot more with most of the boss fights

sweet crypt
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At the same time though murdering shit with Pdon is fun

supple basalt
#

My first run of BDSP Cynthia almost made me ragequit because like all pokemon games, I went in blind. I usually don't abuse affection but when Manaphy lived on one HP so I wouldn't feel sad and got that Ice Beam off

ON MY FIFTH TRY

I was very happy X_X

unkempt egret
#

while megas were basically just for PvP with some single player teases

supple basalt
#

I did two more runs about half a year ago and beat them no problem

sweet crypt
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Managed to beat BDSP Cynthia first try iirc

unkempt egret
#

also nice nice, I think I just X item abused on mantine in the april fools run I did last year

sweet crypt
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But I'm pretty sure I lost to Lucian beforehand

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So 2 tries for the E4

coarse estuary
#

not really a mechanic ber say but i did like how for bw1 the game has 1 required use of an hm the entire game and any future use is just oh you wanna use it here later to explore more and visit some extra areas you saw when going through here the first time. wish more games did that idea

supple basalt
#

One of my runs I just

Used a lot of Glaceon. Started with an Eevee by transferring it in and when I reached level 20 with it, I decided to make that its evolution level and transferred it out of BDSP and into S/V where I could evolve it with an ice stone

On the other run I had like two intimidate mons on my team

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Luxray and something else

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:')

sweet crypt
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Tbh my biggest issue with Cynthia is still that the game barely gives you any Ice types with good STAB

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Yeah I sure do want to use fucking Ice Fang on my Mamoswine

supple basalt
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So true

sweet crypt
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The craziest shit is that they do get Icicle Crash this game!

supple basalt
#

I mean almost every special water type and a few physicals get ice moves

sweet crypt
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Do you want to know how?

supple basalt
#

But still ice stab would be nice

sweet crypt
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You need to USE SKETCH ON A FUCKING CLOYSTER WITH SMEARGLE

sweet crypt
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Who approved of this

supple basalt
#

I actually don't mind using smeargle for egg moves. That's how I got Alolan Vulpix's eggie moves

sweet crypt
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OK but wouldn't it be better if you like

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Didn't need to fucking sketch shit

supple basalt
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Yeah that would be nice tbh

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At least I got the HA a lot easier

sweet crypt
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Especially since Cloyster is, I kid you not

supple basalt
#

All pokemon transferred out of their GBC counterparts in the 3DS port have their HA

sweet crypt
#

THE ONLY POKEMON IN BDSP THAT GETS ICICLE CRASH NATURALLY

supple basalt
#

Mamoswine doesn't get it naturally?

sweet crypt
#

Egg move

supple basalt
#

Wow

sweet crypt
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Same with Weavile

supple basalt
#

That's dumb

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Physical ice types really do have it rough

sweet crypt
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Also you need to relearn the move with the move relearner

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Iirc

supple basalt
#

Wait it's not born with the egg move?

sweet crypt
supple basalt
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Oh

sweet crypt
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Also I think you need a Super Rod for Shellder

supple basalt
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Oh so you basically have to find a double battle and sketch your own Cloyster

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=_=

sweet crypt
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I could try to check if any trainer has an Icicle Crash user

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And if you could maybe bait it to use Icicle Crash to KO a Pokemon

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And then send in Smeargle to sketch

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Well considering Candice doesn't have it on her Mamoswine or Weavile in postgame

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And that nobody uses a Cloyster

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I think that's a resounding no

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If the Ice gym leader in the postgame doesn't have Icicle Crash on her Pokemon, who would?

coarse estuary
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well yall have fun ima go start my looplocke before i loose motivaiton

supple basalt
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In Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl (BDSP), no standard in-game trainers (Gym Leaders, Elite Four, or trainers on routes) have Pokémon that naturally use the move Icicle Crash in their main battle

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🙃

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lol i was talking in another sever bout the dumb level caps in insurgence and bro i was talking to had no idea i was talking bout insurgence so they were floored when i mentioned if someone was to nuzlocke the game they would be at level 35 for gym 2 and almost 90 for gym 8

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kitty run

terse pollen
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car

coarse estuary
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because im curious i was wondering how many people here know what a nuzlocke is and actively dislike anyone who plays one

sweet crypt
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Well that was easy

unkempt egret
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(I dunno what the levels are actually like though)

sweet crypt
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Do you think dogs would do as well as cats?

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I mean they do have Zacian

unkempt egret
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also I do nuzlockes on my own but I generally don't assume anyone's playing a nuz unless they specify, though I usually run vanilla rules (well, vanilla + no healing/set mode) unless I'm in the mood for somethin spicier

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also dogs you probably have yourself covered between Zacian and Arcanine (both forms)

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the problem though is that zacian's a 7-9 cost so can probably only fit one of those two

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or another dog like fidough

sweet crypt
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Unless I use an NFE, I cannot have a Pickup user

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What a shame

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Wow the dogs kinda have nothing for Chairman Rose

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Mainly that god damn Gmax Copperajah

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I mean I guess I could use Zamazenta actually

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But like apart from it, what are some dogs?

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Arcanine?

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Hits it for SE but gets hit for SE in return

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Same for Okidogi

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Dachsbun and Granbull just lose for free

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Tbf not many cats can handle it either

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Or Pokemon in general

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This Copperajah is a menace I swear

sweet crypt
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Tbh idk if I'll do the dog run

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I'm a lot more partial to cats and routing a dog run is proving to be mildly problematic

coarse viper
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Found this creature on Tuesday

coarse viper
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gott lead with it in my next run

coarse estuary
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while having some brain farts and forgetting today is friday and thus i wouldnt be able to get my island scan mon in hauoli city to be scatterbug i decided to just plot progress to be able to catch my next legal encounter of cutiefly. whlie looking for the cutiefly i ended up running into this fella so its a free encounter along with the hopeful cutiefly encounter (since poision gives me the also option of catching ekans.) this gives me some more mons i can now catch since ilima crit killed my wingull

coarse viper
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Yooo infinite fusion reference?

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Splicers xD

coarse estuary
coarse viper
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You must be fun at parties

unkempt egret
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I think the achievement for winning with a fused mon is literally called "Infinite Fusions at Home" lol

coarse estuary
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well it seems my only loop for trial one is my 2 poison chosen loop since its not worth to use my water loop

potent vapor
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Pokemon fire ash

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Fanmade game apparently has every pokemon regeon, mega evos, z moves, gigantimax, forces u to have pikachu off the bat but pikachu stays on your shoulder

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And its electric moves are overpowered

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THERES TEAM ROCKET HELPP

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I just started playing tbis a couple days ago after someone in this chat told me about it. It's a great game so far

coarse estuary
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i remember i played it back when it stopped at alola. great game

potent vapor
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I'm not that far yet. I know the xp share isn't until after Kanto and I'm still on gym 3 of Kanto. But I remember reading this game doesn't have HMs, so I'm not sure how you get Rock Smash yet. You can check the guide that come with the game

potent vapor
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Ohhh ok ok

potent vapor
wheat mantle
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is rollout better then selfdestruct in pokemon emerald

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time to spend a year waiting for someone to awnser 🙂

wheat mantle
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Cautious, and the reason is because Self Destruct is ass lol. At least you can use accuracy held items for Rollout

wheat mantle
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ok

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thanks

wheat mantle
thorn token
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Seems decent

wheat mantle
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as the first run ever

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of pokemon

sweet crypt
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Are you planning on using accuracy boosting items?

wheat mantle
sweet crypt
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If not, there is 0 world where Rollout is better

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Self Destruct does kill your own Pokemon, but it'll likely kill the opponent's too due to its 400 BP

wheat mantle
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well fu

sweet crypt
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Sure, it says 200 BP, but in actuality, Self Destruct halves the opponent's defence

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Because yeah that's just a thing it and Explosion did before Gen 5

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It isn't important in casual runs since Pokemon is an easy game

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But once you start applying different levels of challenge to a run, it becomes more and more important

wheat mantle
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is there any way to get back that move?

sweet crypt
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The funniest thing is even in a Nuzlocke, where Self Destruct will permanently kill your own Pokemon, it is still a good move to eliminate extremely major threats

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Better to lose a Pokemon to take out a major threat than to lose your whole team

sweet crypt
sweet crypt
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You will need Heart Scales, which can be found held by wild Luvdisc

wheat mantle
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i am NEW to pokemon

sweet crypt
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You'll probably know when you find it since the game will literally tell you

sweet crypt
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Realistically in a casual run though, you have 0 reason to ever click either Rollout or a self KO move

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So it isn't too major of a loss

potent vapor
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Unluckiest trainer battle

wheat mantle
sweet crypt
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Either you get X Accuracies to try to make it work

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Or you replace it

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I must say though, now that I'm looking at Graveler's movepool

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My guy has 0 good Rock moves by level up

wheat mantle
sweet crypt
wheat mantle
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i mean fair