#other-pokemon-games | Pokémon Infinite Fusion | Page 216

tardy anchor Dec 25, 2025, 3:52 PM

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First time playing Heartgold

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Any starting advice or tips?

unkempt egret Dec 25, 2025, 4:00 PM

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anything specific you're wondering about?

tardy anchor Dec 25, 2025, 4:06 PM

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unkempt egret anything specific you're wondering about?

Probably some strong pokemon I might miss

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Cause they're rare or obtainable by trading

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Rn am doing the tower

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Leveling up my mareep

unkempt egret Dec 25, 2025, 4:06 PM

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I think the only specific one I'd point out at the very start of the game is that Geodude will make the early gyms much easier, as for rarity I think the only one is Dunsparce which is via rock smash

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there are some annoying headbutt ones once you get that though but backtracking to Azela town should get you the two notable ones (heracross and aipom, I believe you can get ambipom since it's a move evo)

tardy anchor Dec 25, 2025, 4:07 PM

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unkempt egret I think the only specific one I'd point out at the very start of the game is tha...

Oh but I got an onix from a trade should I keep it or get geodude

unkempt egret Dec 25, 2025, 4:07 PM

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both work fine yea, so feel free to keep onix if you want

tardy anchor Dec 25, 2025, 4:08 PM

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Ok

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Is gengar like good in this game's play through?

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Cause I just found a gastly

unkempt egret Dec 25, 2025, 4:08 PM

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if you can get gengar (because trade) but haunter's fine for what it does

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if you can then gengar's great, as is onix if you can get steelix since I think you can trade-evolve onix right when its rock type stops being useful

tardy anchor Dec 25, 2025, 4:09 PM

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unkempt egret if you _can_ get gengar (because trade) but haunter's fine for what it does

Hm that's a problem 😕

tardy anchor Dec 25, 2025, 4:10 PM

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unkempt egret if you can then gengar's great, as is onix if you can get steelix since I think ...

I think I'll do this after falkner

ember flower Dec 25, 2025, 5:48 PM

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Too many types X Infinite fusion crossover when?

tardy anchor Dec 25, 2025, 5:52 PM

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Defeating Falkner felt so much amazing after the bitter memories I had with him in Radical Red

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😌

unkempt egret Dec 25, 2025, 6:00 PM

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yeaaaa

verbal tundra Dec 25, 2025, 6:05 PM

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ember flower Too many types X Infinite fusion crossover when?

Idk but sans does make for a good custom sprite

inland crane Dec 25, 2025, 6:14 PM

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I just started my HeartGold randomized run

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(for some reason no pokemon has i on their names naturally)

supple basalt Dec 25, 2025, 6:41 PM

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Looks like your game may be bugged lol

unkempt egret Dec 25, 2025, 6:52 PM

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bleah

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really wish the pokerogue team would make it so that the Clown event doesn't throw out your soothe bells if you go for the item option, since that's entirely the reason why I refuse to pick it

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(return the insults makes some nice changes but it also makes Chi-Yu lose its fire type so not a fan there)

supple basalt Dec 25, 2025, 6:56 PM

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unkempt egret _really_ wish the pokerogue team would make it so that the Clown event doesn't t...

I like to check the items after I click it and if it doesn't have what I like, I refresh the page and just do the ability fight because if you win, it will let you not take it. Refreshing while you're still on the choose a reward screen restarts the floor

unkempt egret Dec 25, 2025, 6:56 PM

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supple basalt I like to check the items after I click it and if it doesn't have what I like, I...

same here, that's what I did

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thankfully the fight wasn't bad but the ability (sheer force) I'm gonna skip since everything on this team likes their abilities

supple basalt Dec 25, 2025, 6:56 PM

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I enjoy you can just refresh to restart lol

unkempt egret Dec 25, 2025, 6:57 PM

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"enemy team go existisn't*"

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(don't ask why I have alolatales there to shoot myself in the foot lol)

supple basalt Dec 25, 2025, 6:57 PM

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unkempt egret thankfully the fight wasn't bad but the ability (sheer force) I'm gonna skip sin...

I usually discard the ability too. The only time I didn't was when I got Drought with Hisuin Lilligant on my team lol. Drought Solar Blade was fun

unkempt egret Dec 25, 2025, 6:57 PM

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nice nice

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in my case I'd be tempted on Ninetales but Chi-Yu doesn't have the passive yet

supple basalt Dec 25, 2025, 6:58 PM

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unkempt egret (don't ask why I have alolatales there to shoot myself in the foot lol)

Shiny

unkempt egret Dec 25, 2025, 6:58 PM

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yep

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also gourgeist is a fantastic shiny if you get get a hold of it, ghost/grass + well baked body + pickup has saved me in so many runs for a 2-0.5 cost

supple basalt Dec 25, 2025, 6:58 PM

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I think I like the blue shiny more but I also like the sunset colors of the red

unkempt egret Dec 25, 2025, 6:58 PM

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makes sense, I don't have the blue shiny yet

supple basalt Dec 25, 2025, 6:59 PM

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unkempt egret also gourgeist is a fantastic shiny if you get get a hold of it, ghost/grass + w...

That sounds diabolical lol

unkempt egret Dec 25, 2025, 6:59 PM

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I think the only one of those I have all of the variants on is gourgeist but imo all of gourg's variants are good

unkempt egret Dec 25, 2025, 6:59 PM

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supple basalt That sounds diabolical lol

the fun part is that the passive's different on each form so the other ones get... adaptability, illuminate (???), and seed sower, depending on size

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so tiny can be a decent pinch hitter from the back while XL can support a grass team (though even then taking WBB for the fire immunity is probably better if you aren't running something else with it like simisage)

sweet crypt Dec 25, 2025, 10:19 PM

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My main Pickup mons are Linoone for the amazing priority, Nuzzle and a free pass vs the Breeder and Ambipom for Scrappy Fake Out

raw rampart Dec 25, 2025, 10:24 PM

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inland crane I just started my HeartGold randomized run

ahh yes, “dalga”

unkempt egret Dec 25, 2025, 10:26 PM

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yea linoone is usually the main pickuper since belly drum ESpeed allows it to be a backup carry in its own right and I think it's a 1 -> 0.25 cost?

sweet crypt Dec 25, 2025, 10:31 PM

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unkempt egret yea linoone is usually the main pickuper since belly drum ESpeed allows it to be...

I never really end up using Linoone for anything other than a sacrifice or the Expert Pokemon Breeder though lol

unkempt egret Dec 25, 2025, 10:31 PM

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lol

sweet crypt Dec 25, 2025, 10:35 PM

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It's mainly because I usually bring Tapu Fini as a backup carry

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And Tapu Fini simply does not falter

ashen plaza Dec 26, 2025, 12:16 AM

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simple quartz Dec 26, 2025, 1:31 AM

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AzuGasp

brisk hedge Dec 26, 2025, 1:39 AM

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Damn, even the game devs thought Bugsy was a girl

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 1:52 AM

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Bulbapedia and Serebii are rage baiting bro wtf do you mean Volcanion is a LION

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Weavile rhymes with senile, Weavile is now an old man

brisk hedge Dec 26, 2025, 1:53 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/im-old-age-conan-o-brien-im-a-thousand-years-old-all-of-a-sudden-gif-16780717

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sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 1:53 AM

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brisk hedge Dec 26, 2025, 1:56 AM

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sweet crypt Bulbapedia and Serebii are rage baiting bro wtf do you mean Volcanion is a LION

Bulbapedia doesn’t say that it’s a lion, it says it’s based on mythical creatures that RESEMBLE lions

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And that part of its name comes from lion

terse pollen Dec 26, 2025, 1:57 AM

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It's ugly is what it is

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 1:57 AM

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brisk hedge Bulbapedia doesn’t say that it’s a lion, it says it’s based on mythical creature...

Yeah so close enough to calling it a lion really

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That's like saying that calling something a phoenix isn't calling it a bird

brisk hedge Dec 26, 2025, 1:58 AM

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But a Phoenix is a bird, while komainu only resemble lions

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 2:00 AM

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Whatever, point is, it doesn't even look like that anyways

brisk hedge Dec 26, 2025, 2:01 AM

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Hey, it’s no worse then calling Raikou, Entei and Suicune dogs

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 2:01 AM

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brisk hedge Hey, it’s no worse then calling Raikou, Entei and Suicune dogs

Good thing I don't do that either

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They're legendary beasts, and even if you want to argue to call them a single animal both Raikou and Suicune have directly been likened to cats BY THEIR DESIGNER

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As for Entei I'm pretty sure the wording was more vague on it

terse pollen Dec 26, 2025, 2:04 AM

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legendary dogs

brisk hedge Dec 26, 2025, 2:04 AM

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sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 2:05 AM

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Bulbapedia cites both Entei and Arcanine as being based off the Komainu, and it's pretty cool to see one embody the cat side more and the other embody the dog side more

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That said you can definitely see elements of both animals in both Pokemon

frank lily Dec 26, 2025, 2:38 AM

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lavish dune Dec 26, 2025, 3:33 AM

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apparently paras can tm counter

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terse pollen Dec 26, 2025, 4:07 AM

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Is paras secretly the goat?

verbal tundra Dec 26, 2025, 5:27 AM

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pride flags

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 5:29 AM

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pridetrans pride

terse pollen Dec 26, 2025, 5:31 AM

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they drained all the color out of the rest of the world 💔

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 5:37 AM

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verbal tundra pride flags

Yoooo it's Lazarus

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Lazaris was a very fun hack

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Even before they added all the easy EV and IV editing shit

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A good part of that is that Lazarus most certainly not a difficulty hack

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So EVs and IVs were never necessary to begin with

verbal tundra Dec 26, 2025, 5:39 AM

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I was abit surprised with the EV and IV editing lol

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 5:39 AM

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Also they give some pretty cool buffs and have some pretty funny mons available

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Ogerpon is obtained directly after the 4th gym

verbal tundra Dec 26, 2025, 5:39 AM

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dangg

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 5:40 AM

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Naturally I ended up using Ogerpon on my team because Ogerpon is peak

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And I even fully EV trained it before the EV editing stuff was added

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Also Ambipom is weirdly cracked as shit

verbal tundra Dec 26, 2025, 5:40 AM

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sweet crypt A good part of that is that Lazarus most certainly not a difficulty hack

btw when do you choose if you want normal or hard difficulty

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heard thats a thing

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 5:40 AM

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Like it gets moves like Population Bomb and Double Iron Bash iirc

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 5:41 AM

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verbal tundra btw when do you choose if you want normal or hard difficulty

Should be in settings

verbal tundra Dec 26, 2025, 5:41 AM

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ah I see

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are there any new regional forms or anythig of the like

verbal tundra Dec 26, 2025, 5:43 AM

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sweet crypt Like it gets moves like Population Bomb and Double Iron Bash iirc

oo

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 5:52 AM

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verbal tundra are there any new regional forms or anythig of the like

There are new Megas

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In particular they gave Cyclizar 2 Mega Forms, one for each of its Paradox Forms

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Well not forms

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But yknow

terse pollen Dec 26, 2025, 5:59 AM

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Oh that's neat

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I love fan made mega evolutions

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 6:06 AM

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Speaking of fanmade Megas

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Wanted to theorycraft a Mega Volcanion

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But what ability do I give it?

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Steam Engine was my first thought

verbal tundra Dec 26, 2025, 6:08 AM

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sweet crypt But yknow

Ooo nicee

verbal tundra Dec 26, 2025, 6:08 AM

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sweet crypt Steam Engine was my first thought

That sounds like a good one

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 7:06 AM

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Why do we still have people insisting Fairy is the absolute best offensive type

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I mean don't get me wrong it's a good offensive type

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But you've got to be trolling if you think it's the best one

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Especially since all 3 types that resist it are genuinely great defensive types

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And demand respect

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It's not something like Ghost where yeah Normal is immune to it but who gives a shit it's Normal

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There are like 2 kinda relevant Normal types in SV OU

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It's probably higher in VGC I guess?

verbal tundra Dec 26, 2025, 9:25 AM

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Ive only used fairy mostly to counter dragon

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oh I just realized, I dont have a rival in Lazarus

tardy anchor Dec 26, 2025, 9:59 AM

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Hey!

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Any cool recommendations for my team in Pokemon Heartgold?
Currently I am having a Quilava, Flaaffy, Togepi

past cairn Dec 26, 2025, 10:34 AM

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tardy anchor Any cool recommendations for my team in Pokemon Heartgold? Currently I am having...

Sounds like Ur doing a giftlocke

tardy anchor Dec 26, 2025, 10:36 AM

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past cairn Sounds like Ur doing a giftlocke

No it's just a coincidence

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I got the mareep from the wild

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Rn am just leveling up my Togepi

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 10:37 AM

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Geodude's a very strong pokemon in the early game to my knowledge

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Handles all of the first 3 gyms

tardy anchor Dec 26, 2025, 10:38 AM

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Am just going to take on the third gym

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 10:38 AM

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tardy anchor Am just going to take on the third gym

Well considering how Whitney's one of the gym leaders people struggle the most with, Geodude is especially useful there

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I've seen some people refer to it as the single best Whitney counter

past cairn Dec 26, 2025, 10:39 AM

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If Ur not then here's a couple good pokemon

Crobat really fast and easy to get
Gyarados great Pokemon with only 1 real weakness
Vileplume good Pokemon that can damage specially and heal stall with giga drain
Nidoking great Pokemon overall
Heracross great physical attacker
Espeon great special attacker
Umbreon great defensive Pokemon

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 10:39 AM

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Or at least her Miltank idk Clefairy could probably do some cheesy shit and roll Metronome Hydro Pump or something

past cairn Dec 26, 2025, 10:39 AM

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Idk how obtainable some of these are but I gave plenty of options

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 10:40 AM

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I think the main issue with Heracross is that it's pretty rare

past cairn Dec 26, 2025, 10:41 AM

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sweet crypt I've seen some people refer to it as the single best Whitney counter

Doesn't everyone use that machop you can get in like a trade

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 10:41 AM

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It's like 2% or something from honey trees

past cairn Dec 26, 2025, 10:41 AM

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sweet crypt I think the main issue with Heracross is that it's pretty rare

Yeah but absolutely worth it if you can

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 10:41 AM

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past cairn Doesn't everyone use that machop you can get in like a trade

Yeah but it's a worse Miltank check than Geodude

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At least from what I've been told

tardy anchor Dec 26, 2025, 10:41 AM

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sweet crypt Well considering how Whitney's one of the gym leaders people struggle the most w...

Idk I already have an onix I got from a trade

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 10:41 AM

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Probably because Geodude has more bulk and resists the Normal moves

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 10:42 AM

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tardy anchor Idk I already have an onix I got from a trade

That'll probably work too

tardy anchor Dec 26, 2025, 10:42 AM

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In the first town

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 10:42 AM

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You could probably use that for Miltank yeah

tardy anchor Dec 26, 2025, 10:42 AM

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Yeah

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I gave my magikarp at the daycare it's level 11 rn

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Waiting for Gyarados

verbal tundra Dec 26, 2025, 11:22 AM

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tardy anchor Any cool recommendations for my team in Pokemon Heartgold? Currently I am having...

if you can, add a wooper to your party

verbal tundra Dec 26, 2025, 11:23 AM

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sweet crypt Lazaris was a very fun hack

hey just to ask, can Gligar or Gliscor fly in Lazarus? cuz according to google, they cant

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:23 AM

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verbal tundra hey just to ask, can Gligar or Gliscor fly in Lazarus? cuz according to google, ...

I have absolutely no clue, I didn't use Gliscor even though I had a Poison Heal one in my box

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(Never found the Toxic Orb :/)

verbal tundra Dec 26, 2025, 11:24 AM

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oof

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yeah well guess in that case, I will probably replace Gligar with Paldean Wooper then

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cuz she so cuteeeee

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and I love Woopers

tardy anchor Dec 26, 2025, 12:39 PM

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verbal tundra if you can, add a wooper to your party

I already gave a magikarp to daycare center

verbal tundra Dec 26, 2025, 12:40 PM

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oh nice

verbal tundra Dec 26, 2025, 1:03 PM

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rich tundra Dec 26, 2025, 1:03 PM

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Is this adonis' evil brother

verbal tundra Dec 26, 2025, 1:13 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

rich tundra Dec 26, 2025, 1:14 PM

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@sour nimbus

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 2:38 PM

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Hey someone hit me with an image of a Pokemon for me to identify

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Idk I'm a bit bored rn

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Nothing better to do

verbal tundra Dec 26, 2025, 2:40 PM

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chillin in my cabin

verbal tundra Dec 26, 2025, 2:41 PM

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sweet crypt Hey someone hit me with an image of a Pokemon for me to identify

who is this pokemon

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 2:43 PM

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verbal tundra who is this pokemon

That's a digimon. To be more specific, Palmon.

verbal tundra Dec 26, 2025, 2:43 PM

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damnn, I thought I would trick you

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lol

verbal tundra Dec 26, 2025, 2:45 PM

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sweet crypt Hey someone hit me with an image of a Pokemon for me to identify

who is this pokemon

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 2:46 PM

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verbal tundra who is this pokemon

Is this the fucking Jigglypuff seen from above bullshit

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Or is it actually a Voltorb/Electrode

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Like I'm being serious when I say I actually want some obscure Pokemon to guess

verbal tundra Dec 26, 2025, 2:46 PM

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yeah, its Jigglypuff seen from above

verbal tundra Dec 26, 2025, 2:48 PM

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sweet crypt Like I'm being serious when I say I actually want some obscure Pokemon to guess

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found this online

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have fun

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 2:50 PM

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20/20 too easy

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Why is there a cataract mode

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Not even cataracts can stop me

verbal tundra Dec 26, 2025, 3:12 PM

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damn, well Im out of ideas

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blep

brisk hedge Dec 26, 2025, 5:16 PM

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sweet crypt 20/20 too easy

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north vessel Dec 26, 2025, 5:35 PM

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is this freddy fazbear

broken temple Dec 26, 2025, 5:51 PM

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no thats a pokemon

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but cube

lavish dune Dec 26, 2025, 6:06 PM

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doing mono bug but this is neat

north vessel Dec 26, 2025, 6:10 PM

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broken temple no thats a pokemon

wdym whats a pokemon

broken temple Dec 26, 2025, 6:12 PM

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idk

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i keep hearing about it

nova marlin Dec 26, 2025, 7:58 PM

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sorry little one...gonna have to wait till victory road till i let you evolve

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 7:58 PM

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Why?

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If you're going for a dawn stone you can get one right after Silph

nova marlin Dec 26, 2025, 7:58 PM

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supple basalt Why?

cause of a certain stone

nova marlin Dec 26, 2025, 7:59 PM

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supple basalt If you're going for a dawn stone you can get one right after Silph

you would be correct

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if it wasnt for the fact that rng doesnt like me

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 7:59 PM

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Randomizer? Turn shop rando off

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XD

nova marlin Dec 26, 2025, 7:59 PM

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supple basalt Randomizer? Turn shop rando off

...what game do you think im playing?

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 8:00 PM

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Oh

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I ythought I was in

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The

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PIF channel;

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Mb

nova marlin Dec 26, 2025, 8:00 PM

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a little to 3D for PIF huh😭

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 8:00 PM

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I'm dumb

nova marlin Dec 26, 2025, 8:00 PM

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all good

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but yeah uh

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to get a dawn stone in ORAS

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 8:00 PM

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Eyes: 3D
Pif: 2D
My brain: Burr PIF

nova marlin Dec 26, 2025, 8:00 PM

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its either i gamble by rematching with random trainers

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which never works

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or finish victory road

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 8:01 PM

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nova marlin to get a dawn stone in ORAS

Are you able to get an Everstone?

nova marlin Dec 26, 2025, 8:01 PM

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couldnt find one so far

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 8:01 PM

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Sad

nova marlin Dec 26, 2025, 8:01 PM

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denied his evolution by like 30 levels now

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 8:11 PM

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nova marlin denied his evolution by like 30 levels now

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Here's all of them actually lol

nova marlin Dec 26, 2025, 8:21 PM

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time for me to get this damm Dawn stone

broken temple Dec 26, 2025, 8:26 PM

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cant you get evo stones using super training?

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i remember something like that

nova marlin Dec 26, 2025, 8:31 PM

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FINALLY

nova marlin Dec 26, 2025, 8:31 PM

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broken temple cant you get evo stones using super training?

yeah but its horrible on an emulator

broken temple Dec 26, 2025, 8:31 PM

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ive done it in the past

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its rough but doable

nova marlin Dec 26, 2025, 8:34 PM

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what a random find.

broken temple Dec 26, 2025, 8:37 PM

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the otherside has the X stone i believe

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or its a version exclusive

nova marlin Dec 26, 2025, 8:38 PM

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broken temple the otherside has the X stone i believe

looks like version exclusive

nova marlin Dec 26, 2025, 9:01 PM

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alright. time to fight the weakest champion in Pokemon history

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 9:03 PM

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weakest (not lance?) champion with one nuclear warhead hidden within his team

broken temple Dec 26, 2025, 9:03 PM

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debateable

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steven has some strong mons on his team

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its mostly his AI holding him back

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 9:03 PM

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which is true of most champions

broken temple Dec 26, 2025, 9:04 PM

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sad

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these games are made for children so they hold them back

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sadness in my heart

nova marlin Dec 26, 2025, 9:08 PM

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unkempt egret weakest (not lance?) champion with one _nuclear warhead_ hidden within his team

i dont rly count lance as a champion

coarse viper Dec 26, 2025, 9:12 PM

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Diantha

pearl matrix Dec 26, 2025, 9:32 PM

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Agreed, diantha is weaksauce

nova marlin Dec 26, 2025, 9:48 PM

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terse pollen Dec 26, 2025, 10:29 PM

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nice

rich tundra Dec 26, 2025, 10:48 PM

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been playing pokemon uncanny

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meet my current team

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 10:51 PM

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What's Pokemon Uncanny

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 10:52 PM

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unkempt egret weakest (not lance?) champion with one _nuclear warhead_ hidden within his team

Are you forgetting Geeta exists?

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Steven at least has a scary team. Geeta... has an awful team XD

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 10:53 PM

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still lance, imo

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 10:53 PM

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I almost said Dianthus exists but she suffers from X and Y being too easy

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And has a mega gardevoir

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 10:53 PM

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then again if we aren't counting lance as a ~~champion~~ final boss I wouldn't count geeta either tbh

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 10:53 PM

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So she gets a pass

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 10:54 PM

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if we are though then I feel like it's still lance because I can't exactly just end three of geeta's mons alone with a single coverage move

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 10:54 PM

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unkempt egret then again if we aren't counting lance as a ~~champion~~ final boss I wouldn't c...

Geeta is the champion trainers have to fight to achieve champion rank, so she counts. When you fight Nemona you fight her on the same rank as she is

rich tundra Dec 26, 2025, 10:54 PM

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supple basalt What's Pokemon Uncanny

Pokemon romhack full of Pokemon that Arent Pokemon. Like the Substitute or the statues you find in pokemon gyms

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 10:54 PM

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If Nemona was the champion of S/V, then it wouldn't be as easy

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 10:54 PM

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Scarvi is so strange with that though since it very much exposes the idea of "champion =/= final boss" that Ghetsis toyed with back in gen 5

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 10:54 PM

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rich tundra Pokemon romhack full of Pokemon that Arent Pokemon. Like the Substitute or the s...

Ahh gotcha

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 10:55 PM

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unkempt egret Scarvi is so strange with that though since it very much exposes the idea of "ch...

Even Nemona isn't the final boss

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 10:55 PM

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yea and nemona herself isn't even the final boss of scarvi which... depends on what version you're playing lol

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between them it's... strange?

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 10:55 PM

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We just call them AI Professor

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 10:55 PM

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yea scarlet's has more quad weaknesses but the violet's has more shared weaknesses? it's odd

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 10:55 PM

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unkempt egret Scarvi is so strange with that though since it very much exposes the idea of "ch...

I do like it. And that concept is what makes Nemona such a great character. Sure, every time she showed up you steamrolled her team, but she was never fighting to make her better. She was fighting to encourage you to git gud and be able to fight on the same rank as her.

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 10:55 PM

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I do think Lance should be included as a final boss

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Once you beat Lance, you've beaten the game

rich tundra Dec 26, 2025, 10:55 PM

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supple basalt Ahh gotcha

like the one tailed vulpix seen in one of the manga

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 10:55 PM

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Beating Red is a postgame

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 10:56 PM

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yea I don't have anything against nemmy though, she's fine where she is

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 10:56 PM

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sweet crypt I do think Lance should be included as a final boss

same here imo

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 10:56 PM

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Honestly, move Glimmora to the back, Kingambit to the front and give it Sucker Punch

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Wait

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 10:56 PM

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rich tundra like the one tailed vulpix seen in one of the manga

Interesting :0 Reminds me almost of the Minee eeveelution prevolutions

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 10:56 PM

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I mixed the orders

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Oops

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 10:56 PM

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actually for the GSHGSS/BW situation I feel like Alder and Red would be in the same position lol

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 10:56 PM

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But yeah you move Glim to the front

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Kingambit to the back

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Give Kingambit Sucker Punch

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And bam

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 10:57 PM

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also yea maybe tell the AI not to send out kingy second on whatever ghost type you just deleted the espratha eith

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 10:57 PM

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She'd probably move to the upper half of difficulty for champions

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Literally that easy

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 10:57 PM

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...also yeet the veluza into space and throw another water type there (huge power azumarill would be funny even if not very champion-like)

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 10:57 PM

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And she does actually do that in the DLC

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She also y'know

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PICKS UP A DRAGAPULT

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 10:57 PM

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These are very cute and I wish they were real

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 10:58 PM

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They should give her Espathra Speed Boost Calm Mind Stored Power

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It'd be funny

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I want to see people suffer

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 10:58 PM

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I was gonna say if you're gonna do that maybe make it not the lead rofl

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which if it's glimmora as the lead then understandable have a nice day

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 10:59 PM

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Like you can make Geeta genuinely the hardest Champion without even changing her team

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The movesets just suck ass

terse pollen Dec 26, 2025, 10:59 PM

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supple basalt These are very cute and I wish they were real

eeveelutions if they were designed now

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 10:59 PM

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And so do the orderation

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...That's not a word

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Is it?

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 10:59 PM

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I mean if you're going for hardest then also throw some EVs in there

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 10:59 PM

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Idk

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 10:59 PM

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otherwise Kukui, Hau, and BDSP Cynthia are still fighting for the top podium

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 10:59 PM

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sweet crypt She'd probably move to the upper half of difficulty for champions

Honestly I agree. It's the AI on when she sends out King and Glim that makes her hella weak

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 10:59 PM

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That said Kingambit, Espathra and Glimmora are pulling some HEAVY weight

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 10:59 PM

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out of those three I'm not sure?

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 10:59 PM

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She doesn't have a weak team, I guess she more has weak AI

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 10:59 PM

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probably kikui? since he at least tries to punish a set-up strat on the lead

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:00 PM

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Because ain't nobody gives a flying fuck about Veluza, Avalugg or Gogoat

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:00 PM

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supple basalt She doesn't have a weak team, I guess she more has weak AI

If we're talking AI, every champion is a fraud

terse pollen Dec 26, 2025, 11:00 PM

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Bad trainer AI? In MY pokemon games?

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:00 PM

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Pokemon AI is just kinda exploitable as hell no matter what

terse pollen Dec 26, 2025, 11:00 PM

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Say it aint so

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 11:00 PM

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kikui with his finger mashing the turn 1 stealth rock button like

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:00 PM

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unkempt egret otherwise Kukui, Hau, and BDSP Cynthia are still fighting for the top podium

I want to say BDSP Cynthia wins but Gamefreak designed her team to be competitive with beneficial natures and items, and max IVs and EVs

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I also pretend BDSP doesn't exist though so

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:01 PM

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If Hassel didn't have Baxcalibur I'd replace Geeta's Avalugg with it

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:01 PM

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I think Hau and Kukui are both equally tough

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 11:01 PM

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I haven't fought hau in a while (...8 years at this point dang) but his team seems mostly fine if a bit swingy since he's a rival and all

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kikui though can very much snowball hard if you get careless though in a nuz

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:01 PM

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I have no clue what I'd give in place of Gogoat though

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 11:02 PM

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tbh I'd probably still keep gogoat but replace zen headbutt with rock slide (or earthquake if you want more power against fire/poison at the cost of giving up your bug/flying/ice matchups)

terse pollen Dec 26, 2025, 11:02 PM

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Anything

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:02 PM

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Like a lot of the better Grass types are like

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DLC

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Or Legendaries

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Or Meowscarada

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 11:03 PM

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yea DLC gives her chesnaught which... works I guess

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:03 PM

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I love when games work your rival being the champion you fight into the story, even though S/V and... the gen 1 games (I don't think Blue was champion in R/B but he was in Yellow... I could be wrong but I know whats-his-name is champion in Let's Go) did it correctly

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 11:03 PM

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until it gets bonked by a flying move and becomes existisn't

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:03 PM

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Chesnaught's probably one of the best options for Grass that isn't just

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Legendary

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:03 PM

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Isn't Nemona the more scary trainer in S/V but Geeta's the more scary in Rouge?

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 11:04 PM

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...is nemona in Rogue at all?

rich tundra Dec 26, 2025, 11:04 PM

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i knew i recognized this thing

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:04 PM

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supple basalt Isn't Nemona the more scary trainer in S/V but Geeta's the more scary in Rouge?

I mean yeah but I'm talking SV

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:04 PM

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unkempt egret ...is nemona in Rogue at all?

Yes

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:04 PM

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unkempt egret ...is nemona in Rogue at all?

Yup, she's a menace but not quite as much so as Geeta

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:04 PM

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She can spawn as champion instead of Geeta

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 11:04 PM

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rich tundra i knew i recognized this thing

rofl now that's a pull (positive)

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aaah I see

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:04 PM

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She has a fucking Koraidon

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Because of course she does

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 11:04 PM

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usually if a champion's destroying me it's Leon's stupid berserkerzard

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:04 PM

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sweet crypt I mean yeah but I'm talking SV

I know I just thought it was funny that the roles were reversed haha

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I do wish Penny and Arven were more challenging.

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Kieran's pretty challenging at least

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:05 PM

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I mean Arven's using the friends he made along the way and Penny's using an eeveelution team

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:05 PM

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True lmao

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:05 PM

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I dont think there's any way to make them more difficult

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 11:05 PM

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speaking of which I do also find it funny that for the league club challenge geeta's glimmet is available right at the start of the game (at level 5) while nemona's tauros is literally the final mon unlocked (at level 50)

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:05 PM

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Unless you change what friends Arven makes along the way

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:06 PM

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sweet crypt I mean Arven's using the friends he made along the way and Penny's using an eeve...

I appreciate Arven's team for that. You got to fight alongside his pokemon then you get to fight against them I thought that was clever

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 11:06 PM

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give him the greedent from pokerogue that can hold multiple berries clearly

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...I like how I play Masters too much that my brain was like "imagine mabosstiff with the berry strats" since both of them function similarly there as supports

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:06 PM

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Unfortunately the Eeveelutions range from mid to dogshit

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:06 PM

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Penny. I mean. She needed more story. You get more information on the Team Star Admins than you do with her which is not okay

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:06 PM

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So Penny being hard is only really possible with either extremely competitive sets

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:06 PM

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She's still a vibe though

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:06 PM

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Or EVs

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 11:07 PM

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yea flareon/glaceon/leafeon are all kinda just dead on arrival and umbreon can't exactly do much anyway outside of maybe foul play rofl

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:07 PM

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Honestly I'd go with the latter because haha Eevees with EVs

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 11:08 PM

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actually jolty too kinda just keels over if you resist electric so it's mostly just the vappy/espy/sylv trio

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:08 PM

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Glaceon could resist fire moves if it had sp def EVs. I steamrolled BDSP with Glaceon (which by the time the leaf rock was available, I changed games for my Eevee to evolve it into Glaceon)

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:08 PM

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unkempt egret yea flareon/glaceon/leafeon are all kinda just dead on arrival and umbreon can't...

They should give it Toxic

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:08 PM

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Because unlike in PIF it gets Freeze Dry

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:08 PM

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And Wish

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 11:08 PM

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yea Glaceon, Leafeon, and to an extent jolteon do far better in the player's hands than the AI's (well, leafeon in the gens where it isn't being harassed by level 71 leaf blade rofl)

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:08 PM

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And Protect

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Just stall their asses out yknow

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Also Glaceon has stupid amounts of bulk at least

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So you're probably gonna need an SE move to KO it

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:09 PM

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Competitive Umbreon is annoying XD

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:09 PM

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That's right, another fucking slow bulky Ice type

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YIPPEE!

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Glaceon's stat spread is scarily similar to Magnezone's

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I mean

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:09 PM

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Are Glaceon and Avalugg the bulkiest non-legendary ice types?

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:10 PM

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Not as similar as Buzzwole vs Great Tusk

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But still

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 11:10 PM

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avalugg's only bulky on the physical end but by god is it tanky on that end

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:10 PM

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supple basalt Are Glaceon and Avalugg the bulkiest non-legendary ice types?

Aurorus has like 123 HP

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:10 PM

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Oh okay

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:10 PM

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I know this because it's the same as Gogoat with 123 HP

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Which is hilarious

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Why does Gogoat have so much HP? Who knows, really

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 11:10 PM

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tbh body press avalugg in gen 9 maingame almost feels like cheating at times since even SE physical moves just bounce off

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:11 PM

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123/77/92

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:11 PM

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unkempt egret avalugg's only bulky on the physical end but _by god_ is it tanky on that end

Everyone: Man ice types die so easily
Gamefreak: I see, let me give you this coffee table then

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:11 PM

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But it has Snow Warning

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 11:11 PM

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"just maybe don't get hit by resisted special moves and you're golden"

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:11 PM

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Basically XD

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 11:11 PM

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"gf you do realize that list of "resisted special moves" here is literally just Ice Beam and maybe freeze dry and blizzard right"

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GF: has already left the room*

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:12 PM

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Then Aurorus out here with Refridgerate

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I should shiny hunt more on rouge before the event ends

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:12 PM

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supple basalt Everyone: Man ice types die so easily Gamefreak: I see, let me give you this cof...

Idk though it gets OHKOd by Sun Boosted Specs Charmander Ember (without Solar Power)

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 11:13 PM

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same, I also might as well farm Reshiram up since it's so good for helping other mons get candy

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:13 PM

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Oh yeah I was getting candies for zama

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:13 PM

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Literally takes it worse than Ferrothorn who is quad weak to Ember

rich tundra Dec 26, 2025, 11:13 PM

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the classic

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:13 PM

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Because Ferrothorn's the GOAT

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 11:13 PM

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sweet crypt Literally takes it worse than Ferrothorn who is quad weak to Ember

hang on

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:14 PM

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Tbf I am using their default sets

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So Ferrothorn should have more SpD investment

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 11:14 PM

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196 SpA Charmander Ember vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Ferrothorn: 132-160 (45.6 - 55.3%) -- 60.2% chance to 2HKO
196 SpA Charmander Ember vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Stonjourner: 58-69 (17 - 20.2%) -- possible 5HKO

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dang was expecting ston to take more than just 20% rofl

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:15 PM

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Stonjourner's a specially frail fuck but you're comparing a resist to a quad weakness

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I'm not so sure what you were expecting

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 11:15 PM

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yea I was more expecting the 20 defense to be that bad but not quite

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but actually tho one sec

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252 SpA Charmander Ember vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg: 150-176 (45.3 - 53.1%) -- 28.9% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Charmander Ember vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Ferrothorn: 144-172 (49.8 - 59.5%) -- 98.4% chance to 2HKO
not quite worse but

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:16 PM

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unkempt egret 252 SpA Charmander Ember vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg: 150-176 (45.3 - 53.1%) -- 28....

Yeah ig Ferrothorn does run substantially more SpD EVs huh

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228 SpA Diancie-Mega Mystical Fire vs. 252 HP / 176 SpD Ferrothorn: 288-340 (81.8 - 96.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
This is still one of my favourite calcs

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Simply tanks that shit

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 11:17 PM

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my favorite is I forget what calc it was but found out from a speedrun that there's one little cup calc where the max damage roll is nearly double the next highest but I wish I remembered what it was

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:19 PM

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When does Zama learn Body Press =_=

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:21 PM

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unkempt egret my favorite is I forget what calc it was but found out from a speedrun that ther...

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:21 PM

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supple basalt When does Zama learn Body Press =_=

When you find a TM for it

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Or alternatively via egg move

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:21 PM

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It's an egg move. That sucks lol

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Or TM. I hope I find the TM

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XD

unkempt egret Dec 26, 2025, 11:22 PM

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sweet crypt

there we go that might have been it

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:22 PM

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supple basalt Or TM. I hope I find the TM

At least it has it

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Imagine if it didn't haha ha

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(Man Gamefreak did Zamazenta so dirty)

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:29 PM

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It shouldn't have taken them till G9 to give Zama Body Press

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I had Shield before I had sword and I felt so bad

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XD

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:30 PM

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Did they really have to nerf Zamazenta alongside Zacian?

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They nerfed Eleki without nerfing Drago

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They nerfed Cresselia and not Darkrai in Gen 9 (I guess they did nerf Darkrai indirectly in like Gen 7 because of Dark Void Smeargle though)

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I wonder if people would actually use Darkrai in the Mythical=Restricted regulation a while back if Dark Void wasn't nerfed

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:32 PM

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Ngl my favorite thing about rouge is its use of Mystery Dungeon OSTs

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XD

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:32 PM

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sweet crypt Did they really have to nerf Zamazenta alongside Zacian?

They had to make them weaker than the new legends ig

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Just like Protean shouldn't have been nerfed

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:33 PM

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supple basalt Just like Protean shouldn't have been nerfed

Tbh I don't mind the Protean nerf

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It's pretty justified considering how much of a menace Greninja and Cinderace were

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But one does have to wonder how much of a bitch Meowscarada would've been to fight if it wasn't nerfed

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:35 PM

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Probably a pretty big menace since even without Pokerouge it has a wide movepool XD

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Dudunsparce gets Boomburst? Had no clue that happened

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I have a feeling Hyper Drill is better despite being 40 power less

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Since it's physical

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But good to know lol

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:45 PM

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Dudunsparce does actually only have 15 less SpA than Attack

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It's capable of both using Special and Physical sets

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But usually has to use a setup move since it doesn't hit hard by itself

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:46 PM

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Hmm. Since I can't check what my stats are while choosing a move I'll replace Hyper then (Can remember it later if I really want)

sweet crypt Dec 26, 2025, 11:46 PM

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For special sets, it's Calm Mind. For physical ones, it's Coil

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Iirc Pokerogue leans into the Special sets?

supple basalt Dec 26, 2025, 11:46 PM

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I'll have to change its nature next chance I get XD

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Caught it during this run like this

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Got neutral, attack and sp atk more evened out

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I'd kinda like +SpA -Speed on this guy

supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 12:06 AM

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Oh I have it unlocked. F this shit I'm lowering cost and starting new

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 12:18 AM

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Lmao

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Time to do that Mono Steel run

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I'd be lying if I said I wasn't nervous

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Rival's starter is Cyndaquil

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Thankfully I have Heatran in the back

lavish dune Dec 27, 2025, 12:32 AM

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well hello there

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 12:34 AM

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Team Magma

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I am cooked

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How do I beat Groudon?

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It has Mold Breaker

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I guess I just need to find a good Tera type or lose

lavish dune Dec 27, 2025, 12:38 AM

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bring someone with the drizzle ability

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 12:39 AM

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lavish dune bring someone with the drizzle ability

I'm playing Mono Steel 💀

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And Groudon is the issue here

lavish dune Dec 27, 2025, 12:39 AM

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monkaHmm

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 12:40 AM

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It murders my ass with Mold Breaker Precipice Blades

lavish dune Dec 27, 2025, 12:40 AM

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aggron with sturdy and counter?

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 12:40 AM

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lavish dune aggron with sturdy and counter?

Mold Breaker

lavish dune Dec 27, 2025, 12:40 AM

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...yes

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 12:40 AM

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Funnily enough though despite having Pokerogue pick my team at random I have Aggron

lavish dune Dec 27, 2025, 12:40 AM

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what issue does mold breaker do for my idea

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 12:41 AM

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lavish dune what issue does mold breaker do for my idea

Mold Breaker ignores Sturdy

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It ignores all abilities

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I can't Levitate, Earth Eat or Sturdy my way out of this one

lavish dune Dec 27, 2025, 12:41 AM

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no shit? i thought it just ignored immunities

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good to know

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hm

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 12:42 AM

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It doesn't even ignore immunities???

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Unless they're from abilities that is

lavish dune Dec 27, 2025, 12:42 AM

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skarmory could do some shenanigans if its faster

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 12:42 AM

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Like I said, this is a random challenge and I don't have Skarm

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Even if I did, Skarmory would do like

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0 damage to Groudon

lavish dune Dec 27, 2025, 12:43 AM

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oh random, i missed that completely

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but i was referring to spike/whirlwind shit

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 12:43 AM

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Anyways a Nidoqueen hit my Heatran with a Superpower for like 30/150 HP

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"Super Effective" my ass it doesn't even 4HKO me if I was Unaware

lavish dune Dec 27, 2025, 12:44 AM

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the move is super effective, nidoqueen is not

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 12:44 AM

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lavish dune but i was referring to spike/whirlwind shit

That'd be instantly foiled by a single Fire move sadly

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Also I was worried it'd use a Ground move

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It uhh

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Didn't

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I don't have Earth Eater on Heatran yet

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And the AI wouldn't know if I did anyways

lavish dune Dec 27, 2025, 12:45 AM

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brainpulse

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 12:45 AM

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That Jigglypuff just tried to rest at max HP

lavish dune Dec 27, 2025, 12:45 AM

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its just tired, dont judge them

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hows the mono-bug squad lookin

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im TERRIFIED ill get stuck with magma too

broken crater Dec 27, 2025, 12:46 AM

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Could use non bug types

lavish dune Dec 27, 2025, 12:46 AM

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no

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 12:46 AM

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I'd love to replace Energy Ball with Earth Power, but I kinda need it for Groudon

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... Wait a minute

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Wouldn't Magma Storm literally hit it harder?

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Since it sets up its own sun?

lavish dune Dec 27, 2025, 12:47 AM

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aint groudon gonna be primal later on

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 12:47 AM

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Welp goodbye Energy Ball

lavish dune Dec 27, 2025, 12:47 AM

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so fire/ground, what would energy ball even do?

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 12:47 AM

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lavish dune aint groudon gonna be primal later on

It doesn't

lavish dune Dec 27, 2025, 12:47 AM

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i couldve sworn i fought a primal gdon with maxie

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hm

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i like dustox

supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 12:58 AM

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I like Raihan's vibe. He doesn't give a shit lol

terse pollen Dec 27, 2025, 12:59 AM

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How many influencer gym leaders do we have now

supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 12:59 AM

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I mean Iono's the only one who counts. Raihan's not technically an influencer. He's just selfie obsessed

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XD

terse pollen Dec 27, 2025, 1:00 AM

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Was that really his gimmick

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Wow

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Anyway uncrowned form Zamazenta looks badass

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 1:02 AM

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For now I think I'll use Fire Blast

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Since I need the raw damage more

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And accuracy

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I'll swap over to Magma Storm for the final boss

terse pollen Dec 27, 2025, 1:04 AM

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ok

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 1:06 AM

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Man even 115 Maxie is a massive struggle

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Managed to use Tera to get past 165 Maxie thankfully

supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 1:23 AM

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Nice! Tera saves lives

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 1:29 AM

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Alright Mega Metagross swept the Sinnoh E4

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I'm very worried about 195 and to an extent Eternatus though

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That was a very difficult 195, almost lost there

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Alright Eternatus is down

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Against all odds I actually managed to win

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supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 1:39 AM

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I've got two Soul Dews on Zama. That does help enhance body press right? (+Def -SpAtk nature)

unkempt egret Dec 27, 2025, 1:39 AM

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when you Steel so hard you dropped 3 mons along the way

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 1:40 AM

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unkempt egret when you Steel so hard you dropped 3 mons along the way

I tend to not use any new Pokemon for these challenges

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 1:41 AM

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supple basalt I've got two Soul Dews on Zama. That does help enhance body press right? (+Def -...

Should

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With that said 3 is the lowest number so far for sure

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The next lowest are the 4 mon runs which are Ice, Ground, Gen 9 and Gen 4

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Ice and Gen 4 were actually exceedingly simple

supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 1:45 AM

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Wait did

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They replace Guzma's Genesect with a Scizor?

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 1:45 AM

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supple basalt They replace Guzma's Genesect with a Scizor?

He always had a Scizor

supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 1:45 AM

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He's missing his Genesect-

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 1:46 AM

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What wave are you on though?

supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 1:46 AM

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165

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 1:46 AM

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Huh

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What replaced it?

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Because I know Scizor was always there

supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 1:46 AM

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Yeah he had Golisopod, Mega Pinsir, Scizor, Xurkatree, Buzzwoll, and...

Fuck who was the last one I don't wanna redo the battle

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 1:46 AM

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Iirc it should be Golisopod, Scizor, Mega Pinsir, Xurkitree and Buzzwole as the other 5

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 1:47 AM

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supple basalt Yeah he had Golisopod, Mega Pinsir, Scizor, Xurkatree, Buzzwoll, and... Fuck wh...

That last one was the new one

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Wait I'm misremembering

supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 1:48 AM

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Hisuian Samurott

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XD

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 1:48 AM

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OK so I'm 90% sure last time I fought Guzma he had both Scizor and Genesect

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But he also had Xurkitree at some point

supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 1:48 AM

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I know for a fact he did last time i did his floor 165 battle

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 1:49 AM

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But was it the same point as Scizor and Genesect?

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I kinda want to say no, and that Xurkitree was what replaced Genesect

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Because H-Sam/Crawdaunt isn't new either

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That much I know

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Bro my memory is garbo

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Y'know what who cares actually

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Anyways there are plans to remove Mega Pinsir and add Masquerain in its place, as well as replacing Craw/Sam with Araquanid

supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 1:51 AM

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I'm asking the server

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Cause it's bugging the shit out of me

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 1:52 AM

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Well I personally kinda don't care because either ways he's getting swept by whatever the hell I'm bringing

supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 1:53 AM

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I know I just am gonna be mad if it just has a chance to not be on his team because before I got a lot of good legendaries/passive/mons in general THAT'S what would end my runs

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:(

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If it has just a chance to not be there I feel hella unlucky when I was a bit newer XD

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 1:54 AM

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supple basalt I know I just am gonna be mad if it just has a chance to not be on his team beca...

The only 50/50 on Guzma's team rn is H-Sam/Crawdaunt

supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 1:55 AM

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Gotcha

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Oh nice enough candies for the passive

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 1:56 AM

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Zama's passive is Unnerve, right?

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Ooh Rival recently got a revamp to what Pokemon they can get apparently

unkempt egret Dec 27, 2025, 1:58 AM

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yea I've noticed some odd choices on them

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 1:58 AM

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You probably won't notice much since the pool is still so massive that you wouldn't be able to keep track of what exactly they can have

unkempt egret Dec 27, 2025, 1:58 AM

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and also no longer having like random wave 195 lunatone or stunfisk

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 2:00 AM

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Main thing I'm noticing is that Slot 3 is heavily powered up generally

supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 2:00 AM

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shookani

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 2:00 AM

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But some Slot 3 Pokemon (Pinsir, Lapras, Heracross and Dondozo at the top of my head) were moved to Slot 4

unkempt egret Dec 27, 2025, 2:00 AM

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G-Slowbro is cruelty with quick draw rofl

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 2:01 AM

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Gholdengo definitely used to be a Slot 5 Pokemon

unkempt egret Dec 27, 2025, 2:01 AM

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yea I think the only slot 4 I could think of moving to slot 5 would be ghold and maybe aegislash? dunno what Kingdra's doing in slot 5 tho

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 2:02 AM

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Also I think every Pokemon in Cynthia's team in the Sinnoh games can be found here

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Wait it's missing Gastrodon I think?

unkempt egret Dec 27, 2025, 2:03 AM

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heck

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sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 2:03 AM

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Also missing Togekiss actually

unkempt egret Dec 27, 2025, 2:03 AM

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gonna still take it as "frick you sturdy" insurance

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 2:03 AM

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But it's funny how 4 Pokemon she uses are back to back in Party Slot 4

unkempt egret Dec 27, 2025, 2:04 AM

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HECK

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I feel like if the game does this and it's not april 1st you're entitled to compensation of some sort

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(on cilan's team)

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 2:05 AM

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Lmao

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The Rival's Birds also have fixed Abilities now

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Which I actually did notice

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With Talonflame always having Gale Wings now

unkempt egret Dec 27, 2025, 2:05 AM

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my punishment for having a shiny monke in LA (Panpour in that case though)

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 2:07 AM

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Corviknight and Noctowl also have their Hidden Abilities

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Mirror Armour and Tinted Lens, respectively

unkempt egret Dec 27, 2025, 2:08 AM

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I also noticed that the pokeball is discolored if the mon adds something if you catch it

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 2:08 AM

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unkempt egret I also noticed that the pokeball is discolored if the mon adds something if you ...

That's old

unkempt egret Dec 27, 2025, 2:08 AM

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huh guess I just never noticed that

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does make the ability charm far better at least since otherwise I'm not checking abilities

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 2:08 AM

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Rival's team actually can get so scary now wtf

unkempt egret Dec 27, 2025, 2:09 AM

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not getting good soothe bell luck this run tho

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 2:09 AM

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Annihilape, Ursaluna, Hatterene, Garganacl, Gengar, and even more

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There's so many diabolical Pokemon in Slot 3

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Aren't these mfs supposed to be the weaker ones???

unkempt egret Dec 27, 2025, 2:13 AM

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Annihilape in particular feels very much like Slot 4 if kingambit's also there rofl

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 2:16 AM

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Yeah Annihilape Slot 3 is definitely the craziest thing

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This is like better than a majority of the Slot 5s

terse pollen Dec 27, 2025, 2:20 AM

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unkempt egret

I never get it right how do you do it

unkempt egret Dec 27, 2025, 2:20 AM

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in that case uh pure luck?

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considering my first hit was an incorrect fickle beam

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actual fraud move, gonna yeet its 5pp ass off for dragon pulse as soon as it shows up rofl

terse pollen Dec 27, 2025, 2:21 AM

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But don't you love gambling

unkempt egret Dec 27, 2025, 2:22 AM

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not with only 5 -> 8 pp in pokerogue rofl

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ROFL

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literally picked up dragon pulse follwed by a ppmax one wave later

terse pollen Dec 27, 2025, 2:24 AM

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Let's go gambling

unkempt egret Dec 27, 2025, 2:25 AM

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oh well that's a new one to encounter for this event

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the runnerrr

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wait hol up what the heck

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where are these candy jars coming from

terse pollen Dec 27, 2025, 2:29 AM

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halloween clearance sales

unkempt egret Dec 27, 2025, 2:58 AM

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...right I forgot reshiram already doesn't care about sturdy because of turboblaze

turbid hornet Dec 27, 2025, 3:00 AM

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verbal tundra chillin in my cabin

what game is that?

verbal tundra Dec 27, 2025, 3:19 AM

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Pokemon Lazarus

naive cedar Dec 27, 2025, 3:54 AM

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Anyone have Pokemon Scarlet and has a Walking Raid I can get in on?

tardy anchor Dec 27, 2025, 4:39 AM

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Finally!!!!!

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Whitney is defeated

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Trollgar

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That too without a pokemon which is super effective against it's miltank

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Paralysis and confusion did the heavy lifting

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And 2 crits

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heehee

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Wait does Whitney not give a gym badge!?

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Or what?

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Oh nvm

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This crybaby

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 4:44 AM

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Powerscalers are enigmas sometimes

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So like apparently in the manga the Meteor was able to completely destroy the planet (though in the games it'd likely have a more similar effect to the Chicxulub Asteroid that killed off the non-avian dinosaurs)

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So Mega Rayquaza scaling to that should make it planet level right?

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Wrong, High Universe Level

supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 5:04 AM

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unkempt egret literally picked up dragon pulse follwed by a ppmax one wave later

You can get moves to show not effective/super effective? How? I couldn't find that setting

unkempt egret Dec 27, 2025, 5:10 AM

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that might have been either an update or in the options menu, not sure

supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 5:11 AM

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It's not on mine

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I'll check the settings again

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Oh there are multiple option menus I'm dumb

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What is this? Is this an in-game notification? Cause if I remember right upgrades don't show on a mon until you start a new game

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Ahh there it is

supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 6:36 AM

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I'm gonna fucking lose if the game doesn't give me Zamazenta's crowned form

supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 7:37 AM

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~~I didn't get the rusted shield but I also lose because Eternatus kept flamethrowering the flash fire~~

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 11:05 AM

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Yknow I keep referring to Thousand Arrows as Tarrows

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Because I just never remember Triple Arrows exists

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I mean I barely ever use H-Decidueye

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Funny thing is Triple Arrows isn't even a bad move or anything

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It's actually pretty fucking nuts

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But thing is, even it pales in comparison to Thousand Arrows

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Tarrows is a crazy fucking move

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It's not uncommon to see Zygarde Complete run it as its only Attacking move, to excellent success

karmic ferry Dec 27, 2025, 12:02 PM

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not surprising, a thousand is significantly more arrows than three heehee

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 12:05 PM

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karmic ferry not surprising, a thousand is significantly more arrows than three <:heehee:9458...

True...

verbal tundra Dec 27, 2025, 12:49 PM

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the shopping menu looks cool in Lazarus

tardy anchor Dec 27, 2025, 1:26 PM

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supple basalt I'm gonna fucking lose if the game doesn't give me Zamazenta's crowned form

Which game is it?

supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 1:27 PM

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tardy anchor Which game is it?

Pokerouge

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 3:42 PM

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Remember chat, if you ever feel stupid, remember that the National Dex playerbase allowed THIS to happen

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Chi-Yu UU 💀

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Zard Y and X 💀

rich tundra Dec 27, 2025, 3:42 PM

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?

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 3:42 PM

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BTW, Tapu Lele, Volcarona, Ting-Lu, Melmetal and ZAMAZENTA were also UU

supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 3:43 PM

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Huh

unkempt egret Dec 27, 2025, 3:43 PM

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tbh I'm more confused about what cherrim and chatot are doing above ZU rofl

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 3:43 PM

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unkempt egret tbh I'm more confused about what cherrim and chatot are doing above ZU rofl

This was early NatDex

unkempt egret Dec 27, 2025, 3:43 PM

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ah

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 3:43 PM

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So UU was the lowest tier

unkempt egret Dec 27, 2025, 3:43 PM

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aaaah I see

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 3:43 PM

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I remember Swellow stayed in UU though

supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 3:43 PM

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UU = Underused right?

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 3:43 PM

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And iirc Volcarona fell to RU

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Which uhh

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Didn't last long

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Ival was also UU btw 💔

supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 3:44 PM

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I didn't know RU was a thing. I knew there was OU

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 3:44 PM

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And Bundle, if past me is to be believed

unkempt egret Dec 27, 2025, 3:44 PM

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yea there's OU (overused) ->. UU (underused -> RU (Rarley used, added in gen 5) -> NU (Neverused, added in gen 4 I think?) -> PU (it stinks, made official in gen... 7 I think?) and ZU (zero used, not exactly official but) then I add U (Unusable, for mons that aren't even viable in ZU-based tiers) below ZU but I'm alone on that

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 3:44 PM

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And Kartana was definitely UU back then too

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Chi-Yu in particular got banned from NatDex OU while in UU

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Because no fucking shit Chi-Yu got banned

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It's Chi-Yu

unkempt egret Dec 27, 2025, 3:45 PM

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I forget did the same thing happen to espartha or did that get into OU for a bit

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before people realized how dumb ~~stored power~~ speed boost on something without negative defenses or a x4 stealth rock weakness was

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 3:47 PM

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unkempt egret I forget did the same thing happen to espartha or did that get into OU for a bit

Espathra got into OU for a bit in Gen 9

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And I think NatDex UU banned it before its NatDex OU ban?

unkempt egret Dec 27, 2025, 3:48 PM

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I recall somethin like that yea

inland crane Dec 27, 2025, 3:50 PM

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Every Pokemon main character deciding to retire and also release all otherworldly monsters capable of erasing and remaking countries for no reason the moment a new generation of games is out

sweet crypt Dec 27, 2025, 4:20 PM

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sweet crypt And I think NatDex UU banned it before its NatDex OU ban?

OK so

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It did get banned from a tier it wasn't in which disallowed usage for another tier

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But uhh

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That was it being in RU

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And getting banned from UU

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Espathra, Mega Mawile, Dondozo, Baxcalibur, Garganacl, Lati Twins and Iron Hands all fell to RU

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And Swellow somehow managed to stay in UU

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You do need to ask yourself what NatDex players are doing sometimes

pliant vapor Dec 27, 2025, 4:30 PM

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Does anyone have bdsp

supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 4:42 PM

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I try to forget I have it 🙃

inland crane Dec 27, 2025, 8:08 PM

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Started Fire Ash and team so far (right after Gym 2 Kanto)

terse pollen Dec 27, 2025, 8:12 PM

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beib

karmic ferry Dec 27, 2025, 10:47 PM

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Pikaçu

rich tundra Dec 27, 2025, 10:50 PM

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Velly

inland crane Dec 27, 2025, 10:59 PM

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Yeah tried hard with nicknamed (and deleted later because lag makes it unplayable around sea)

supple basalt Dec 27, 2025, 11:02 PM

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KidYES Another knocked off the needed pokemon list

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 12:06 AM

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Apparantly Delphox's passive is getting changed but the person who linked me the passives discussion thread but when I asked TWICE where in the thread it's CONFIRMED psurge would be gone he simply ignored me

terse pollen Dec 28, 2025, 12:42 AM

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That's kind of funny

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It came to him in a dream

karmic ferry Dec 28, 2025, 12:43 AM

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source: just trust me bro

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 12:50 AM

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supple basalt Apparantly Delphox's passive is getting changed but the person who linked me the...

I can't find anything about it on the official balance change document

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That is to say, they're fucking lying

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 12:50 AM

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Yeah

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Is Riolu actually losing T Kick or is that a lie too

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 12:50 AM

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Because if something is confirmed to have their passive change, they'll appear on that document

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 12:50 AM

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XD

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 12:51 AM

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Even if what it's being changed to is a very rough draft

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 12:51 AM

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supple basalt Is Riolu actually losing T Kick or is that a lie too

Potentially in the far future when the Egg move system is overhauled into the Rogue move system

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But that's like

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Projected to be a year or a few later iirc?

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 12:51 AM

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Wait. Rogue move system?

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Are we gonna just be losing egg moves

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 12:52 AM

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I dont remember the full details of the Rogue move system

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But they are somewhere in the discord

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Actually, I could see Riolu losing Thunderous Kick

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... Am I allowed to say why in this channel, though?

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Probably not

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Let me check though to see if it does

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Alright, there are plans to swap it over for Secret Sword

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But it's very unfinished right now, they haven't decided on a 4th move yet

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And I mean

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They have plenty of time, if you know what I'm referring to

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 12:54 AM

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sweet crypt Alright, there are plans to swap it over for Secret Sword

So possibility to run a special lucario that doesn't rely on physical to start out

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 12:54 AM

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Yeah, it's keeping Tachyon Cutter too

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 12:54 AM

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That I can get behind cause I hated having to run Lucario physical if I wanted to use his egg moves

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 12:55 AM

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So I may start using Special Lucario more often

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Yknow what?

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It did appear officially in an official Pokemon trailer

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Surely that means I can talk about it for like 2 messages in spoiler text

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 12:55 AM

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I think it does lol

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 12:55 AM

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||Mega Lucario Z is an all-in Special Attacker||

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 12:56 AM

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Oh it's a ZA thing

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We have a channel for ZA

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XD

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 12:56 AM

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Yeah...

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But I can't exactly talk about Pokerogue out of nowhere there, can I?

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 12:56 AM

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True

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Okay at least ||Mega Lucario Z|| has a good vibe. I like his design better than ||Mega Absol Z||

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So what was the connection to Rogue?

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 12:58 AM

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supple basalt So what was the connection to Rogue?

That's why Riolu is losing Thunderous Kick for Secret Sword

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 12:58 AM

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OH

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Makes sense lol

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Swellow looks so out of place. Poor birb

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 1:00 AM

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There's a lot of Scale Shots being added

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And according to the Balance Change Document, it's because they're planning to add Loaded Dice very soon

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 1:01 AM

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That's gonna make a lot of nice sets ngl

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 1:02 AM

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supple basalt Swellow looks so out of place. Poor birb

Also, Gee I sure do wonder what move FACADE is clicking

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 1:02 AM

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Certainly not Facade /srs

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 1:03 AM

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I will say I tried to do a Zangoose run once

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It was miserable

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 1:03 AM

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I caught it during the run, but someone in the rogue server said to name it Facade lol

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 1:03 AM

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I like, never got the Toxic Orb

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So I just abandoned the run because I wasn't having fun

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 1:03 AM

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It doesn't have Toxic Boost, it has immunity so he's vibing in the back of my party.

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 1:03 AM

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I could've just used Tapu Fini to beat the rest of the run

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But I ain't gonna spend time doing that, I've done that so many times

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 1:03 AM

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Territory- I played Wolf Quest a lot yesterday

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XD

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 1:04 AM

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sweet crypt But I ain't gonna spend time doing that, I've done that so many times

Shake up the run ~~unlike me who has the same trio of friends on my team~~

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Btw

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Why is Zamazenta one slot cheaper than Zacian

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Zama is honestly better

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 1:04 AM

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supple basalt Why is Zamazenta one slot cheaper than Zacian

Because Zacian is considered superior

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 1:04 AM

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XD

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Zamazenta Body Press has fucking one-shot Finn's Rayquaza

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 1:05 AM

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Though whether or not it is I'm not certain as I haven't used Zamazenta at full unlocks

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 1:05 AM

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IN MEGA FORM

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 1:05 AM

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supple basalt Zamazenta Body Press has fucking one-shot Finn's Rayquaza

Zacian can OHKO it with Magical Torque so like

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Idk

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 1:05 AM

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I know

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 1:05 AM

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Sure Zamazenta does it with a resisted hit

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 1:05 AM

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I was just pointing out Body Press does the same thing at not very effective damage

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Which is impressive to me

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XD

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 1:05 AM

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But that isn't everything

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I will say though Zacian is overrated

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It's amazing don't get me wrong

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But it isn't the strongest Pokemon in the game at all

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It does deserve its 9 cost though

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 1:06 AM

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Idk. I can't decide who I like more, I just think it is insulting to how good Zama is to make it cheaper (Though don't mistake this for complaining. I can stick an extra mon on my team)

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 1:07 AM

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I think the only 9 cost that doesn't live up to my expectations of what a 9 cost should be is Rayquaza

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And it's mainly because base Rayquaza is like a mid tier 8 cost mon

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And whether or not you get its Mega is completely up to chance

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Pokemon like Zacian and Kyogre already bring amazing performances in their base form

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(I'm not 100% sure on Groudon since it's been a while since I've used it)

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 1:09 AM

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Groudon wasn't bad when I obtained it in my endless run though it only did real damage once it got its primal form

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 1:10 AM

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I actually heavily underestimated Terapagos

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Tera Shell and Recover allows it to set up so damn easily

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And once you're ready to sweep, you can suddenly jump from 600 to 700 BST

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And gain an unresisted move

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 1:10 AM

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Yeah Terapagos is insane

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XD

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Also I love this egg pity system. Zacian eggs for 7 candies instead of 10 is so nice

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 1:11 AM

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It also allows you to use Tera no matter how many times you've used it

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So yeah you can just Tera for every single Elite 4 member

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And then for the Champion

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(Which used to be possible without Terapagos actually, but they removed that)

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 1:12 AM

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sweet crypt So yeah you can just Tera for every single Elite 4 member

Okay I know the next mon I'm going to start unlocking everything on

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I hate having to save tera

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 1:12 AM

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Problem

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I only mentioned Terapagos because of the discussion we were having

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It's a 9 cost

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And that's why I doubted it so much

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 1:12 AM

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I know. Enough candies can get it down to 7 like Zacian

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XD

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 1:13 AM

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600 BST for a 9 cost didn't sound worth to me, even if I could lower it to 7

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But I was proven wrong

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Terapagos is generally not as strong as other legendaries (in a Singles context, which is what all the harder fights in Pokerogue are)

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And not just in BST

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It also typically is a lower tier legend

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 1:24 AM

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Is there any pokemon in the game that has no weaknesses between its passive and natural immunities

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 1:25 AM

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supple basalt Is there any pokemon in the game that has no weaknesses between its passive and ...

I dont think there's any new one

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But there's always Eelektross

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 1:26 AM

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True

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 1:26 AM

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Unfortunately for Eelektross, having a small amount of weaknesses is only a tiny part of being a good Pokemon

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Eelektross has that and good Coverage, but throws everywhere else

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Better than Spiritomb though lmao

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It still pisses me off that you need to do an entire long fucking questline to get Spiritomb in most games (including its first game)

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And yet it has garbo stats

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 1:28 AM

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I at least like the collection quest in Legends

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When Finn lets me get off a Swords Dance in his face:

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(Swept his whole team)

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 3:06 AM

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The game threw me into the ocean on a Mono Fire run

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Thankfully, Iron Moth swept anyways

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 3:37 AM

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Alright, there is no doubt in my mind that Iron Moth is an S tier carry after that run

terse pollen Dec 28, 2025, 3:40 AM

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Iron Moth the goat

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Iron Goat

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 3:42 AM

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Looking at this team, the gameplan is clear

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Pray to the gods I get Lunala before 200

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If I don't, I kinda just lose

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Also hey Beldum is back

terse pollen Dec 28, 2025, 4:37 AM

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Man using Solgaleo or Lunala in Pokerogue sounds so cool but using Cosmog sounds like such a pain

coarse viper Dec 28, 2025, 7:29 AM

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I will take it

jolly vapor Dec 28, 2025, 7:35 AM

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i just finished too many types 2

coarse viper Dec 28, 2025, 7:41 AM

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Congrats!

verbal tundra Dec 28, 2025, 8:19 AM

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been playing this romhack for so long, I didnt even realize you are an adult in this romhack lol

verbal tundra Dec 28, 2025, 8:20 AM

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jolly vapor i just finished too many types 2

noicee, did you catch sans

jolly vapor Dec 28, 2025, 8:20 AM

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Not yet doing Post game

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and hasnt encontered

verbal tundra Dec 28, 2025, 9:04 AM

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verbal tundra Dec 28, 2025, 9:04 AM

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jolly vapor and hasnt encontered

fair enough

verbal tundra Dec 28, 2025, 9:21 AM

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Mega Medicham in GBC style

verbal tundra Dec 28, 2025, 10:48 AM

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chunky

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 11:01 AM

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verbal tundra chunky

Fat fucking plant wth

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I wonder if they gave it Thick Fat or something

verbal tundra Dec 28, 2025, 11:02 AM

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who knows

verbal tundra Dec 28, 2025, 12:04 PM

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oh shiet

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 12:09 PM

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Yeah the game does throw a bit of crazy stuff at you

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Just a bit

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Anyways have fun catching that

coarse viper Dec 28, 2025, 12:13 PM

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masterball time

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 12:39 PM

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coarse viper masterball time

You also need to catch Kyogre and Rayquaza btw

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Giving you the Weather Trio before Gym 8 is a pretty silly move

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But this isn't meant to be a difficulty hack anyways so who cares

verbal tundra Dec 28, 2025, 12:42 PM

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coarse viper masterball time

I actually applied an ingame cheat that makes all pokemon have 100% catch rate lol

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I tossed a pokeball and caught it

verbal tundra Dec 28, 2025, 12:42 PM

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sweet crypt Giving you the Weather Trio before Gym 8 is a pretty silly move

I mean you do get rayquaza before gym 8 in the original emerald

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 12:43 PM

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verbal tundra I actually applied an ingame cheat that makes all pokemon have 100% catch rate l...

Nice

verbal tundra Dec 28, 2025, 12:43 PM

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sweet crypt But this isn't meant to be a difficulty hack anyways so who cares

has lots of in game cheats too

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 12:43 PM

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(I'm gonna be honest I also have the 100% catch cheat my ass is not about to sit there gambling for 60 hours on if this dinosaur will stay in the pokeball)

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(Like maybe if I was nuzlocking I'd turn it off? Since it'd actually pose a threat to the run?)

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(Idk)

verbal tundra Dec 28, 2025, 12:44 PM

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I play pokemon just to have fun, I dont care if it makes it easy lol, I still find it fun

frank lily Dec 28, 2025, 12:51 PM

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Another shiny Cetoddle

verbal tundra Dec 28, 2025, 12:57 PM

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verbal tundra Dec 28, 2025, 12:57 PM

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frank lily Another shiny Cetoddle

noicee

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verbal tundra Dec 28, 2025, 1:17 PM

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I swear I thought the neck was longer

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 1:32 PM

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verbal tundra I swear I thought the neck was longer

I mean they don't exactly have the space for it, I think

verbal tundra Dec 28, 2025, 1:39 PM

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fair enough

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I do like the giraffe neck though

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lets gooo, time to catch the flying hm slave

prisma sable Dec 28, 2025, 2:27 PM

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would you guys recommend any rom hacks or fan games that are similar to download like this one

verbal tundra Dec 28, 2025, 2:28 PM

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Similar to Infinite Fusion?

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 2:42 PM

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prisma sable would you guys recommend any rom hacks or fan games that are similar to download...

PIF is the only fangame with a full fusion aspect

prisma sable Dec 28, 2025, 2:43 PM

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not a fusion aspect but like similar to this game in general, like fan games

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 2:44 PM

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There are a ton of fangames. Insurgence, Rejuvination, Reborn, This Gym of Mine are the ones I know of

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I cannot believe this was actually a thing LOL (Regi quest in original G3 games)

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 2:46 PM

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I'd probably not recommend fangames like Rejuv or Reborn if you're used to Infinite Fusion, as they're a significant step up in difficulty in comparison to PIF

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 2:47 PM

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sweet crypt I'd probably not recommend fangames like Rejuv or Reborn if you're used to Infin...

I know. Those four and PIF are the only Fangames I know though

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So that's what I listed XD

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 2:47 PM

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That said a lot of fangames are on the more difficult side

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PIF is honestly one of the easiest fangames, even though it is harder than most official Pokemon games

supple basalt Dec 28, 2025, 2:48 PM

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I think TGOM is the only real easy one. Unless you play Insurgence on randomizer then the NPCs have no clue what their sets are and the game is trivialized XD

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Speaking of Insurgence I need to download it and transfer my saves over

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 2:54 PM

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Tbh a lot of the less difficult unofficial Pokemon games I can think of are ROMhacks

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In fact, the same applies for the most difficult ones

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I mean you have shit like Emerald Kaizo and Run & Bun

unkempt egret Dec 28, 2025, 3:08 PM

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late but Seaglass also felt on the easier side, a few also have difficulty options like Unbound and Mariomon that can alleviate things too

sweet crypt Dec 28, 2025, 3:09 PM

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unkempt egret late but Seaglass also felt on the easier side, a few also have difficulty optio...

Seaglass does fall under the Romhack category

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I'm trying to specifically stick to the non romhack fangames here

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Which is hard because yeah the easier fangames are generally romhacks

unkempt egret Dec 28, 2025, 3:11 PM

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oh fangames yea

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I have little to no experience on those outside of IF

worldly dome Dec 28, 2025, 8:17 PM

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Does anyone have suggestions on romhacks that "expand" on existing games? Ive seen games like theta emerald ex but I want to be able to play on a homebrewed 3ds and theta, seaglass, and a few others don't even boot

coarse estuary Dec 28, 2025, 11:10 PM

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would yall consider it cheating/ill legit if i used my modded ds to do the dns things and get the eevee mystery gift and then used a program like pkhex to make it my own id so i could have a shiny eeveelution in my soul silver save wihtout having to do the long bill gift hunt?

coarse estuary Dec 28, 2025, 11:10 PM

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worldly dome Does anyone have suggestions on romhacks that "expand" on existing games? Ive se...

they dp if you make them vurtual console games

worldly dome Dec 28, 2025, 11:20 PM

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coarse estuary they dp if you make them vurtual console games

How would I go about that? I use mGBA to launch gba roms so I thought id be good to apply the patch to the base Emerald rom then import it to my SD card as its still a gba file

coarse estuary Dec 28, 2025, 11:24 PM

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worldly dome How would I go about that? I use mGBA to launch gba roms so I thought id be good...

just google how to make virtual console game on a modded console. idr how to do it

worldly dome Dec 28, 2025, 11:25 PM

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coarse estuary just google how to make virtual console game on a modded console. idr how to do ...

Alright. Thanks for the help. Ill look into it

spare hare Dec 28, 2025, 11:38 PM

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hi

tight granite Dec 29, 2025, 12:57 AM

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just had a convo about regional evolutions and so checked the wiki which kinda confused me...since none of the mons here are regional evolutions at all

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for example. Alolan Raichu IS a regional Evolution since you need to be in Alola for it

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but its not listed here

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same with Alolan Marawak

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the mons listed here however are mons that would evolve into that mon ANYWHERE

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they arent regional based

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if i get a Galarian Meowth it will evolve into Persserker, no matter if i am in Galar or like Kalos or Sinnoh

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but if have a Mime Jr and evolve it. i get a Mr.Mime anywhere EXEPT if i bring it to Galar..then it will evolve into a Galarian Mime no matter what i do..so it would be a Regional Evo...but its also not listed here

unkempt egret Dec 29, 2025, 1:19 AM

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gen 8/9 moment, muddling up gen 7's perfectly fine regional form concept

tight granite Dec 29, 2025, 1:42 AM

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in what way?

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Paldea still has regional forms..tho its only 2. it just also has convergent species. which i dont see an issue with. they are a cool concept

sweet crypt Dec 29, 2025, 1:53 AM

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sweet crypt

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In fact, let's poll this shit. Is Volcanion a lion?

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Of course not

lavish dune Dec 29, 2025, 4:55 AM

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YOOOOO I GOT THE OTHER IRON MOTH SHINY

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THATS t1,2, AND 3

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hella

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pretty too, i fw that green

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how do you properly grind candies? is it solo runs?

supple basalt Dec 29, 2025, 5:21 AM

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Green too bright

supple basalt Dec 29, 2025, 5:21 AM

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lavish dune how do you properly grind candies? is it solo runs?

I think Tatsugiri has a good ability for it. Additionally, Soothe bells help a ton and the sprays that increase chances of double battles.

lavish dune Dec 29, 2025, 5:23 AM

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pepereading

unkempt egret Dec 29, 2025, 5:35 AM

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pretty much yea

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look for soothe bells and you can also run something that does well in double battles

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decently fast things with Eruption or Water Spout work great, but there are probably some other great doubles carries as well, even ninetales can work great with just incinerate after a tail glow boost or two

lavish dune Dec 29, 2025, 5:37 AM

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watch me pull up on eternatus with a level 700 regirock

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not sure if thats a locked in win tbh. i love him but regirock is not great

verbal tundra Dec 29, 2025, 5:42 AM

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time to face elite 4

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also added more stuffs to my cabin

lavish dune Dec 29, 2025, 5:50 AM

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OOOH BABY

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ITS DABOI

rugged comet Dec 29, 2025, 5:57 AM

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?tag rule6

ebon pondBOT Dec 29, 2025, 5:57 AM

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Make sure to follow the #rules!

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green garnet Dec 29, 2025, 5:58 AM

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sorry

sweet crypt Dec 29, 2025, 5:58 AM

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verbal tundra time to face elite 4

Oh neat you're rich

verbal tundra Dec 29, 2025, 6:01 AM

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sold lotta nuggets

sweet crypt Dec 29, 2025, 6:05 AM

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