#other-pokemon-games

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supple basalt
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PLA needed more content. I would have loved some DLC on it

lavish dune
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Too bad, $100 ZA

supple basalt
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They wish

sweet crypt
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I'm just gonna say, there's a reason why there's a grand total of 0 fangames with all regions

supple basalt
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I know why but fangames aren't made by multimillion dollar companies

sweet crypt
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All Regions is unfortunately not a very realistic idea

supple basalt
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So they have an excuse

sweet crypt
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With that said, full dex ABSOLUTELY is

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Like c'mon Gamefreak add Yveltal to SV

lavish dune
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Dexit was awful

sweet crypt
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So that we don't get slaughtered by the stupid ass horse

supple basalt
sweet crypt
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I miss Ferrothorn

lavish dune
sweet crypt
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Ferrothorn would help OU so much rn

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Ngl I don't mind dexit until it starts fucking up competitive

supple basalt
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I don't understand why they're not including the full dex in modern games

sweet crypt
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Though tbf, fucking up Competitive is only partially dexit

supple basalt
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What's dexit again

sweet crypt
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It's more so the absolutely clusterfucked Pokemon Gamefreak keeps adding

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I HATE FLUTTER MANE I HATE FLUTTER MANE I HATE FLUTTER MANE

supple basalt
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Didn't Fluttermane get fucking banned in the first week XD

lavish dune
supple basalt
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Flutter Mane is absolutely busted as are Toothless' siblings. The starters are also a little too good with their signature moves

sweet crypt
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Which is the fastest in OU history by the way

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Until the HOME update

supple basalt
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Lmao

sweet crypt
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Then Eleki and Magearna got banned in like

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A single day

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Because Tera utterly breaks them

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Magearna's probably broken even without Tera though lmfao it's Magearna

supple basalt
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I assume Shedinja's fucking banned XD

sweet crypt
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Eleki without Tera would be RU though my guy's a FRAUD

sweet crypt
supple basalt
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What's Eleki

sweet crypt
supple basalt
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Oh

sweet crypt
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Yknow, the guy who has 0 usable attacking Moves that aren't Electric type?

supple basalt
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Gamefreak needs to stop being cowards

sweet crypt
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As it turns out giving that mon Tera makes it broken

supple basalt
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Let Shedinja be broken

sweet crypt
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Gen 9's clusterfuckedness directly comes from them being too brave

supple basalt
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It'd prolly get banned I assume lol

sweet crypt
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I need them to cower in the corner plsthx

sweet crypt
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Probably not as fast as Calyrex

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But definitely will get there in the end

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Maybe about as fast as Calyrex?

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Idk

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Tera Calyrex is arguably more stupid than Tera Shedinja which is just

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So, so stupid

supple basalt
sweet crypt
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I hate Calyrex Competitively

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Casually I don't mind it

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But holy shit is it a bastard

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Even in Gen 8 without Tera, it is arguably the most broken non-AG Pokemon of all time

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Excluding Gen 1 Mewtwo of course

supple basalt
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Yeah it's evil. I mean sure Shadow Rider has two 4x weaknesses assuming you can outspeed and Ohko

sweet crypt
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It literally forced Yveltal, the Number 1 best Pokemon in Sword and Shield Ubers, with the Dark type, great bulk and 90% usage

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To run a suboptimal set

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So that it's not a shaky check

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Me when I say OU instead of Ubers because I'm stupid:

static hatch
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Need to do some grinding, but rate my nuzlocke team so far

tender mauve
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mb wrong channel

lavish dune
idle frigate
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Any good games?

kind dust
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Who play pokemon brick bronze roria conquest

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And have a 6x31 hoopa
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novel walrus
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so I had a small friendly wager with my coworker when we both bought some packs today

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5 packs each of Destined Rivals just for funzies

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I pulled that

wild ore
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Haven’t gotten any genuine Pokemon cards in months

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Damn scalpers man

velvet star
wild ore
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I remember when my dad would get us those booster boxes

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Infact I remember when we got the evolving skies boxes

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The craziest shit was that he got the alt art ray ray vmax

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This one

novel walrus
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5 bucks for a pack or 15 for the 3 card packs

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*in theory, theres the Pokemon center, but you have to beat the bots

unkempt egret
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I still need to go through the very gen 1 anime binder to see what cards are in there

lavish dune
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pretty stacked set of epics hot damn

silver junco
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my beautiful shiny chud babies

lavish dune
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reckon i could use soak to just bully eternatus?

lavish dune
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why did he un-shiny

idle frigate
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Any fusion rom hacks for gen 1 remakes

past cairn
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I haven't heard of any other fusion based stuff other than this and pokerouge but you don't get it in every run

sweet crypt
pine ingot
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I got told to come here but anyone wanna do a soul link?

fickle pine
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Then again, Chill exists in a fan game but still

unkempt egret
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chill?

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I take it from comparing it to soak that it's an ice-typed soak

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I guess Magic Powder too but its sole user has better things to do than change the opponent into a type it can't take advantage of

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also can confirm that Toxic does cheese the etern fight if you're able to get it set up (in my case, corrosion salazzle)

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the main thing to note is that it will wipe any status effects in the transition from phase 1 to 2. but won't do so further unless it steals a lum berry

fickle pine
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Chill is a fan game move learned by an Ice/Fighting-type.

unkempt egret
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yea I figured but ice-typed soak does sound pretty funny considering you're giving the ice type to something that probably can't take advantage of it

tight granite
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non shiny is bright

sweet crypt
frank lily
unkempt egret
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nice nice

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my friend was happy since she got a shiny cubone in sleep earlier today and she thought it was a dupe at first

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(she was also trying to get a shiny eevee for over a year and finally got one last week after getting trolled by caterpies)

tranquil trout
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Oh noo

supple basalt
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rip

lavish dune
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whys big wishi out here with some actually devastating stats

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slow for sure, but with the bulk and power to back it up

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how tf

delicate hollow
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Why is galarian yamask and the unique color striped basculine difficult to evolve?
They are required low HP to evolve but for g-yamask you must stand under a rock formation bridge structure to evolve wtf bro make evolution methods easy and less complex

supple basalt
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That's Gen 8 for you

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For Yamask, that is the actual in-game way to evolve it

broken temple
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sword and shield?
more like
stupid

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ha

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gotthem

supple basalt
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Pokemon Stupid and pokemon Dumdum

broken temple
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the versions we deserved

sweet crypt
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Still better than trade evo ngl

supple basalt
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Not wrong

sweet crypt
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9 entire generations and trade evolution is still the worst

supple basalt
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Better than Ghouldengo

supple basalt
broken temple
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lamo

sweet crypt
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Why did they add link cables in PLA and then remove them and never bring them back

broken temple
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if you dont need trading then nintendo wont get online subscriptions money!

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we gotta fix this

supple basalt
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Lol

sweet crypt
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Also

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Why did they remove Frostbite and Drowsy as well

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Freeze and Sleep are such a bunch of garbage statuses to play against

supple basalt
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The worst part about trading was when you have nobody to trade with and suddenly you've been scammed out of your pokemon

sweet crypt
supple basalt
broken temple
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how nintendo invasions gamers
buy 2 nintendo consoles
buy 2 game copies
buy 2 online subscriptions
problem solved!

sweet crypt
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"Get frozen and now you either instantly thaw or stay frozen for the next 50 millenia"

supple basalt
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Ooo it woulda been nice as a special attacker burn

sweet crypt
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I sure do love getting hit by a 10% and instantly losing the fucking game

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How fun!

broken temple
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i love rng in video games

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if i lost to a 10% so be it

supple basalt
broken temple
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i probably didnt deserve it anyway

sweet crypt
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If you play a newer fangame there's a very good chance they replaced Freeze with Frostbite

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Heck even some older fangames do this

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Because Freeze is so dogshit

broken temple
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i think we should replace all statues moves with an insta kill

supple basalt
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I like that if you got in the yellow in the same turn you won a fight that is gonna heal you and send to the next floor that it does not use sitrus berries

supple basalt
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I fucking hate the wobbuffet event. I can only ever get the T2 prize which I don't want. I want T1 or T3 (I will never say no to Wide Lens)

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STOP BEING POWERFUL VENOMOTH

supple basalt
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I'm sorry Lycanroc... it had to be done

sweet crypt
supple basalt
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Lmao sadly mine doesn't have Simple

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I caught it during the run

supple basalt
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Bro Zacian tanked a hit in the second phase of the Eternatus battle and lived on red HP...

Activated every Berry so my defense and sp def skyrocketed. Where-as the first Poison Jab did a large chunk... the second Poison Jab to the doggo was baby damage

sweet crypt
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Better to be weak to Fire Coverage than STAB Poison

supple basalt
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Tera Fairy

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I am more scared of Flamethrower than I am of Poison Jab lol

sweet crypt
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I see

sweet crypt
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Flamethrower is only 10% burn anyways

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And you'll probably have Lums

supple basalt
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For some god awful reason Flamethrower always does more damage

sweet crypt
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Eternatus only has 10 more SpA than Attack

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And STAB Cross Poison has 15 more BP than Flamethrower

supple basalt
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It's not the burn, that can happen with or without tera. It just kills me easier for some reason.

sweet crypt
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Maybe it's just unlucky stat boost rolls

supple basalt
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Maybe

sweet crypt
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Like Eternatus just getting more SpA boosts than Attack

supple basalt
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I probably could have gone without teraing on that last battle tho

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I got a X Sp.D on floor 199 lol

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It was force of habit

sweet crypt
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Also for future runs you might want to take any Tera Shard that removes your weaknesses to Eternatus, unless you plan on overleveling

supple basalt
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He's got Poison Jab, Flamethrower, Eternabeam... what's his last move?

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I don't think I've ever seem it use more than that tbh

unkempt egret
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dynamax cannon?

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tempted to say it's also cross poison but thankfully that's slightly weaker

supple basalt
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Oh mb Cross Poison Same thing really

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What's the 4th move it has as a normal Eternatus? I think it's Eternabeam that becomes Dynamax Cannon during the GMax

sweet crypt
supple basalt
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Funny I've never seen it use cosmic power lol

sweet crypt
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Cross Poison/Flamethrower/Dmax Cannon/A single PP of Recover in Phase 2

supple basalt
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Ahh okay. Thanks

sweet crypt
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Usually when using Quiver Dance strats

supple basalt
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Makes sense lol

sweet crypt
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(It is still about to get 2-3 shot)

supple basalt
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So Poison/Fire/Dragon moves. Could go Ground Tera since I have EQ every time I begin that battle SevenThonk

sweet crypt
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Unless you bring a Levitater, Flying Type or Telepathy mon

supple basalt
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I only use EQ on round 1 unless I have a flyer/levitater

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I also have access to Mighty Kleave and Bitter Blade but BB does nothing against it and Mighty Kleave isn't bad

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But I usually don't use it on Eternatus

sweet crypt
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My movepool on Zacian in Pokerogue is usually just Magical Torque, Swords Dance and two of Bitter Blade, Earthquake, Behemoth Blade, Sacred Sword (or CC if I get that TM) and Mighty Cleave

supple basalt
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Yeah I like to switch between egg moves lol

sweet crypt
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Zacian has quite a lot of good moves

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I always run SD because SD is goated and Magical Torque since Fairy is a better offensive type than Steel

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It isn't the literal best offensive type like what some may lead you to believe but it's quite strong

supple basalt
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Oh yeah no I always run SD. I generally put Behemoth Blade on it when I get the steel type just cause I like having it (Though I wish it did extra damage against Eternatus like it does in S/S)

sweet crypt
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Well, 4 technically

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Since I did separately list Sacred Sword and CC

supple basalt
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Btw Zacian learns CC naturally

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Why need the TM?

sweet crypt
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My memory is ass

supple basalt
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Yeah I always get it. I never learn it but I remember denying it a lot lol

sweet crypt
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Fairy is probably less resisted than Fighting but Fighting hits more types for SE, including Steel which is the best defensive type

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And I'd say both Rock and Ground out of those are also better than Fairy offensively with confidence

supple basalt
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Yeah Steel types are who I struggle with with Zacian honestly, even with BB and/or EQ

sweet crypt
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I'm not entirely sure which is better between Fire and Fairy

supple basalt
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(Bitter Blade not Behemoth Blade)

sweet crypt
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I only struggle with Steels with Zacian before getting the Rusted Sword and specifically against Rose if I'm using Earthquake over Bitter Blade or Sacred Sword/CC

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That fuckass Copperajah man

supple basalt
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Saddd no shiny Zacian from the eggie

sweet crypt
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Such a pain to deal with because usually my anti Steel coverage is Ground

supple basalt
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Yeah. I need to put fighting on my team at some pooint. I do still wanna get T2 and T3 shinies for Lucario

sweet crypt
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The Steel/Flyings and Levitating Steels don't pose a threat to Zacian because they're not offensively potent (and also, I can't name a single Celesteela used by a trainer at the top of my head)

supple basalt
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Idk Corvinight likes to be a bitch

sweet crypt
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(Maybe Buck? Idk)

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Corv I don't usually struggle with since it doesn't hit hard

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I just click SD a bit and then click Magical Torque

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Or yknow if I have Bitter Blade I just click that

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Rock and Fighting also do serviceably vs it

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Out of the Steel/Flyings the one that annoys me the most is Skarmory

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Because usually you won't OHKO it

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Since it has Sturdy

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Well, can have Sturdy

supple basalt
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I might put BB on Zacian depending on Finn's team. Right now he's got a Porygon which I'm kinda scared of since it's Trace which means adaptability

sweet crypt
supple basalt
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Cyndaquil, Porygon, and Wattrel

supple basalt
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It's very dependent on if he gets something I need fire type with and don't trust Delphox to OhKo

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XD

sweet crypt
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Cyndaquil is a bit scary

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You kinda need to attack it instantly

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Because tanking Drought Eruption is a no go

supple basalt
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What's Typhlosions passive again?

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Oh I am not brave enough to tank an eruption. It's strong enough to be scary but if Zacian outspeeds he ohkos with EQ

sweet crypt
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Typhlosion and Empoleon are very scary because of their weather abilities

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They hit so fucking hard with them

supple basalt
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I can imagine

sweet crypt
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Doesn't help that Eruption is a stupidly strong move, and that Empoleon has one of the higher natural SpAs among Starters iirc

supple basalt
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I thought Empoleon was more Physical. Learning new things lol

sweet crypt
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Empoleon's also a bit bulky

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And even if the rival decides to be an idiot and run Wave Crash

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Empoleon still has decent Attack

supple basalt
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Finn had Fire Paldea Tauros last game which was REALLY annoying since that made Meow force a switch to it and not Ray

sweet crypt
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And that's a 120 BP move

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Empoleon also has pretty menacing egg moves like Tachyon Cutter and Steam Eruption

supple basalt
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Oh god yeah Wave Crash. Whenever I see it I get terrified x.x

sweet crypt
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The only good thing about it is that it's kinda slow

supple basalt
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Ngl until Riolu got the egg move I had no clue what type Tachyon Cutter was lol

sweet crypt
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Though if you're running a weather team, that gets turned into an advantage

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You won't get your weather, it will get its own

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Imagine if you're doing a Groudon run

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And didn't get the luck to get the Red Orb by 145/195

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Literally just instantly cooked by Drizzle Tera Water Steam Eruption

supple basalt
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Yeah I need to run Groudon since I have it of the adamant variety but I wanna continue to shiny hunt the doggo

sweet crypt
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Ngl if Empoleon actually had Drizzle, Pelipper would lose its job

supple basalt
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Even if I only get the T1 shiny I want something lol

sweet crypt
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I bet Pelipper fans are real happy that isn't the case

supple basalt
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Prolly lol

sweet crypt
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They put these abilities on shitmons for a reason

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Drizzle and Drought are so strong

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And heck even Snow Warning doesn't really have a particularly exceptional weather setter

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The only weather that has non-legendary weather setters that are actual good Pokemon outside of setting weather is Sand

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Which... has 2, crazily enough

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Ttar and Hippo

sweet crypt
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And I've heard more about Politoed than about Pelipper in Doubles

supple basalt
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Delphox proves herself the superior fire type

sweet crypt
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Though I don't play Doubles

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So I can't say for certain there

supple basalt
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She fucking just ohko'd Typhlosion with a Psyshock

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XD

sweet crypt
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Psychic Surge's still the passive right?

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I'm not being delusional

supple basalt
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Btw which is better, Flamethrower or Fiery Dance? Flamethrower is +10 power but Fiery Dance raises my sp atk more often than not

sweet crypt
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If so yeah that makes sense

supple basalt
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Yes it is

sweet crypt
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Anyways, I'd say if you don't have a setup move, go Fiery Dance

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Otherwise, go Flamethrower

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Unless you want to use a cool fucking move

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Then stick with Fiery Dance

supple basalt
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Yeah Delphox is full offensive lol

sweet crypt
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Fiery Dance is infinitely cooler than Flamethrower so it is thus better than Flamethrower on Volcarona

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It's flawless logic, really

supple basalt
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Better aesthetic, keepin it~

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Just like PIF logic lol

sweet crypt
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They should give Volcarona Dancer over Swarm

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I mean

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Volcarona clearly has exceptional dance skills

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It's easily the most recognisable user of Quiver Dance and Fiery Dance

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With the latter being its Signature Move until Iron Moth was made

supple basalt
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Isn't Volcarona the pokemon with the event where they cause up a fire storm lol

sweet crypt
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And Iron Moth is basically just Volcarona from a different timeline anyways

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So it's basically still Volcarona's signature

sweet crypt
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Moth ❤️

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Anyways while they're at it, give Slither Wing Victory Dance

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Because I mean

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These Dance Skills have to come from somewhere

supple basalt
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That would be actually evil lol

sweet crypt
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Pokerogue does actually give VDance to Slither Wing and it's peak

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Yknow since Volcarona's so good at dancing, maybe Garchomp should come to her for advice

supple basalt
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Oh is it in the egg moves?

sweet crypt
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Maybe he'll finally learn Dragon Dance after taking weekly dance classes from her

sweet crypt
supple basalt
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That's cool

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I've been passively just catching paradox for minimal candies lol

sweet crypt
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Clangerous Soul is a dance move

supple basalt
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I don't think I've hatched Slither yet tho

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So can't catch

sweet crypt
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They should give it to Oricorio

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Because that'd be hilarious

supple basalt
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Pfft

sweet crypt
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Actually just give Oricorio all the dance moves

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What's the worst that could happen

supple basalt
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Monster bird

sweet crypt
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Fun fact: Aqua Step is a Dance move

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If you've seen Quaquaval, you're probably not surprised in the slightest

supple basalt
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No I'm not. I kinda see the paldea starters as the singer, the dancer, and the performer

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I love it

sweet crypt
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Aqua Step is also the only physical Dance move

supple basalt
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Didn't know that

sweet crypt
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And along with Clangorous Soul, the only Dance moves to not have Dance in their name

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Clangorous Soul has also allowed me to make extremely stupid suggestions

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Like giving Kommo-O both Quiver and Victory Dance

supple basalt
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Pfft

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Kingambit evo item. That's another for the dex :X

unkempt egret
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as a side note speaking of dances, petal dance is also one of the only special moves that makes contact

obsidian willow
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Yo

sweet crypt
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Didn't know that

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I only knew of Grass Knot and Draining Kiss

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Probably because people actually use those moves

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But nobody has ever used Petal Dance

unkempt egret
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makes sense lol

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I think I sometimes see it on lilligant but only because it can negate the confusion with own tempo

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but that's only if someone decided to not use giga drain for whatever reason

sweet crypt
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Someone switches in their Fire, Bug, Flying or Poison type and you're cooked

heavy ferry
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does anyone know where this is from

unkempt egret
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I'm not sure but I saw two things that were kinda similar when looking through the old card binder, but for butterfree and pidgeotto

heavy ferry
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I literally can’t find any matches online so idk if it’s rare or not

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I have three

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one for abra

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and another for drowned

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drowzee*

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but i also have a ton of pokemon cards from the show

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and some dex entrees

supple basalt
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As constantly my only special attacker I think Calcium is part of my Delphox's regular diet at this point lol

terse pollen
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Why bother playing pokerogue if there's no 2x shiny event

supple basalt
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I'm candy grinding Zacian

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Shiny hunting it specifically XD

terse pollen
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I wish shiny grinding legendaries was easier

supple basalt
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Same

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How many Zacian eggs have I hatched. Let's seeeee

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10 so far

sweet crypt
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Iirc eggs have stupidly high shiny rates in Pokerogue

supple basalt
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Yeah lol I'm just unlucky

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And legendary candy grinding is dumb

sweet crypt
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Oh hey the Pokerogue wiki answered a question for me

supple basalt
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Speaking of shinies though. Delphox's T2 shiny perfectly matches the color Psyschic Surge makes the enviornment

sweet crypt
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I was wondering how much additional damage was needed to break through a shield for a while

sweet crypt
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Every time you OHKO Emax, just know you killed it 32 times over apparently

supple basalt
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Never done that but good to know I'm doing 16x damage to Mega Ray

sweet crypt
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Considering how Pokemon struggle to OHKO Eternamax normally that's pretty crazy to me

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I mean I am using shit like +6 in every stat STAB Tera Psychic Stored Power

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So maybe I shouldn't be surprised

supple basalt
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Kinda irritated the only Tera Shards I've found this run are Dragon shards and like. That's useless to me >:(

sweet crypt
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But yeah with all the vitamin and type item stacking you can do such stupid amounts of damage

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And then add stat boosts on top of that

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And you're just nuking shit to death

supple basalt
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Yeah I've got 5 calciums on Delphox atm. I know you can put 10 soul dews on a single pokemon

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Actually I haven't found a Soul Dew in a few runs

sweet crypt
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Does feel weird to me how Soul Dews are kinda just Vitamins with a drawback (actually a benefit in certain scenarios, mainly involving lowering Attack and Speed)

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But you can move them between teammates so fair enough I suppose

supple basalt
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Wait how do Soul Dews work? I thought they just benefitted natures?

sweet crypt
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Though it's by the same increments as Vitamins

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Though tbf

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They probably work together multiplicatively

supple basalt
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And what's the drawback then?

sweet crypt
supple basalt
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Oh okay that's what I thought them

sweet crypt
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If you have an optimised nature then it doesn't matter

supple basalt
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Am good XD

sweet crypt
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If you have something like fucking Lonely?

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Death

supple basalt
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I only ever put them on Meow, Zacian or Delphox

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Jolly Jolly Modest

sweet crypt
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I honestly prefer Adamant to Jolly in Pokerogue

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Usually it's the opposite

supple basalt
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I prefer Jolly on Meow. This game doesn't wanna give me Adamant on Zacian

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It's stupid

sweet crypt
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But I'm usually using mons that are stupid fast or mons that have speed so high they don't need to boost it

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I dont personally think Jolly is better than Adamant on Meows, mainly since you outspeed Mega Ray and probably get outsped by Eternatus either way without vitamins

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Those 2 are really the only specific Pokemon you can plan around since nothing else is consistent

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I guess if you're really scared of a certain fight you could plan around it in advance in case you get it

supple basalt
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Yeah Etern outspeeds me without vitamins but with the stupid amount of stat boosts it gets I kinda just count on the AI to be stupid

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XD

unkempt egret
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I almost always go for adamant or modest unless speed is too fargone to save (at which point it's generally not a good carry) and it's mixed, or it's a Body Press mon in which cass impish/bold

sweet crypt
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So maybe you run Jolly on Meows if you want to have the highest chance to outspeed Geeta's Miraidon for example

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Though you probably still need vitamins for that

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Since Miraidon's fast as shit

supple basalt
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Nah I don't outspeed Mirai. I just taxel on her switch

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.

sweet crypt
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That said all the relevant Pokemon I can think of that outspeed Adamant Meows would outspeed Jolly Meows as well

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Another I can think of is Leon's Dragapult

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But that's even faster than Miraidon

supple basalt
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Speaking of Taxel it actually irritates the hell out of me I'm on floor 120 and not a single Wide Lens

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Have I fought Leon...

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Don't feel like checking

sweet crypt
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He can be quite problematic, with Aegislash, Zacian and Dragapult

supple basalt
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Oh I haven't fought the dog so I haven't fought him

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Lol

sweet crypt
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Ofc he still has Gmax Zard, AKA a massive stat stick, and one of the Galar Starters which can be a bit scary

supple basalt
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Also I caught a Xerneas for some reason so now I'm vibing with two fairy types and a dream =_=

terse pollen
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All my homies hate Leon

sweet crypt
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His last mon is not one I worry too much about

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Varies between a few Pokemon I believe

terse pollen
supple basalt
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Leon is great until he's making bad puns

terse pollen
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How will you ever win

supple basalt
terse pollen
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Seriously but I believe in you

supple basalt
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Especially if I don't get the damn sword

sweet crypt
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If you can get enough vitamins or have a good nature/IVs on Xern, it could probably 1v1 Eternatus

supple basalt
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Xerneas is -spd so I prolly won't be using it much

sweet crypt
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And if that's not reassuring enough, it definitely can with a Tera that makes it not weak to Poison

sweet crypt
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If it's the latter then yeah that's a no go

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If it's the former you're clicking Geomancy anyways

supple basalt
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Spd = Speed. Sp.D = Special Defense

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:P

sweet crypt
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It's a lot easier to get Geomancy off than one may think

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I remember worrying that it'd be an issue in my run

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But the run gave me so much confidence in Xern that I think in the right hands it can solo the game without egg moves or passive

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Needless to say it wasn't an issue

supple basalt
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Pfft

terse pollen
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Anyway Leon sucks

sweet crypt
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It's one of 2 mons I think could pull this off

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The other being Eternatus

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Miraidon maybe could if you got Calm Mind but that's way too RNG reliant for my liking

supple basalt
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Honestly I feel like if I can have both Xern and Zacian out against etern I might be able to use Fairy Aura for a turn or two

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Idk we'll see

terse pollen
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I hate him

supple basalt
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Why

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What did he do XD

sweet crypt
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As could Calyrex if you got the Reins of Unity for specifically Shadow Rider

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But that's so unlikely I didn't even put Calyrex in S tier

supple basalt
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I don't have Calyrex lol

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I don't use ice rider it's too slowwww

sweet crypt
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Lunala could as well but I have it below S tier for the same reason as Calyrex

supple basalt
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And it's ice

sweet crypt
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You aren't using Cosmog or Base Calyrex

supple basalt
#

At least Cosmog isn't as much of a slog to level in this game

sweet crypt
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SO THEY MADE IT AN RNG EVOLUTION

supple basalt
#

....................................

sweet crypt
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On one of my Cosmog runs I got 5 FUCKING SUN FLUTES BEFORE THE MOON FLUTE

supple basalt
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decides I'm forever boxing it in that case

sweet crypt
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And Solgaleo isn't terrible but you can only plan for 1 evolution because of natures

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And Lunala is INFINITELY better than Solgaleo

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Just like normal lmao

supple basalt
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Solgaleo is physical right?

sweet crypt
terse pollen
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and he uses a fucking charizard as his ace

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game freak just couldnt help themselves

supple basalt
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Yeah that reminds me of using my shiny petilil with the intention of planning for Hisui and it giving me two sun stones

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But then I also got drought from the clown and had fun with Drought Solar Blade lmao

supple basalt
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He's what a champion should be despite the stupid bad puns

sweet crypt
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Something that does mildly annoy me about Leon is that he uses the Pseudo Legendary of the region, that shares a type with one of the """Elite 4"""

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2 depending on the game actually

supple basalt
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Dragapult?

sweet crypt
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But we can't just make Allister 50 times stronger than Bea anyways

sweet crypt
supple basalt
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I know he uses it in S/S

supple basalt
sweet crypt
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Would've been cool to have Raihan use it instead

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Since he actually is the Dragon Type Expert

sweet crypt
supple basalt
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I love S/S actually shows you Allistor's face, even though he looks a lot like Kieran

sweet crypt
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Oh you said in this game

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I'm a bit stupid

supple basalt
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Nah

sweet crypt
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Assuming by "this" you mean Pokerogue, I don't know

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I haven't fought Allister enough

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I've only fought him like 4-5 times before

supple basalt
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When playing through S/S I find Allister stronger than Bea (I've got both games)

sweet crypt
#

In S/S, I forgor

terse pollen
supple basalt
#

So?

terse pollen
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Nobody else matters in the story until the final fight

sweet crypt
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That was a while ago

terse pollen
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i am full of hate

supple basalt
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Sonia and Hop kinda Hijack the story, Leon just tries to hijack the final battle because he's the adult and you're the child and it's his job

sweet crypt
#

The most recent I've played SWSH is trying to get Shiny Lunala and then realising I don't give a shit enough about it

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Shiny Lunala looks sick as hell

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But I honestly prefer base Lunala

supple basalt
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It's not worth the dynamax den things hoinestly

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XD

sweet crypt
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Gamefreak cooked so fucking hard with Lunala that they gave it a 10/10 Shiny and the base form still looks better

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Peak Pokemon

supple basalt
#

Then Solgaleo is just

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Sunburnt

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I hate shiny Solgaleo so much

sweet crypt
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Yeah Solgaleo's Shiny is not one I'm a massive fan of, mainly because of the shade of red

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The idea of giving it red by itself isn't bad though

supple basalt
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Yeah but

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Not well executed lol

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Oh shit

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It's almost 8

sweet crypt
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I have seen some really like Solgaleo's Shiny though so it didn't fully fail

supple basalt
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I got off an hour ago

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Brb

nocturne widget
#

Eternatus is a lame fight

sweet crypt
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Cinematics were cool but the fight was too easy yeah

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Though idk if I'd say it's lame entirely because you could beat it while on 72 hours of sleep deprivation

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Because tbh Pokemon as a whole is very easy

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Like maybe not 72 hours of sleep deprivation easy but maybe like 24

nocturne widget
#

Formula’s also wack

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“Use your Pokemon to fight the final enemy”

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“Actually nah have these legendaries do it”

sweet crypt
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That said I prefer the newer games at least making it easy to grind

terse pollen
sweet crypt
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That way the 24 hours of sleep deprivation wasn't from extremely monotonous grinding for the past 24 hours

nocturne widget
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It just feels like Deus ex machina to have the legendaries just

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Exist into play

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Honestly if they were just like

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There
At first

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And were attacking as well

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And THEN their repriced items got used

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And THEN you take over playing as them

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Then it would feel less deus ex machina

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Cuz then it would’ve been the items led to them also being able to do damage

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Rather then just

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“Hello I am now pulling a 7th pokemon out my ass to fight here thank you”

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Y’know

terse pollen
nocturne widget
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Like the final battle should not have been deus ex machina

sweet crypt
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This reads like Rei/Akari somehow found Internet connection in the past and is now ranting about a certain backstabbing mf

nocturne widget
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P f f t

terse pollen
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And put effort into making a game? When they could release it half-baked and make ten bajillion yen?

terse pollen
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Why would they do that

nocturne widget
sweet crypt
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It does

terse pollen
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It's difficult, it's got good music and it pulls twist after twist

nocturne widget
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Meanwhile eternatus is just

sweet crypt
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A Pokemon fight that you can't get through while on 24 hours of sleep deprivation

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Revolutionary

nocturne widget
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…..fucking pokemon X/Y had better shoehorning

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X/Y: oh poo, you killed the title Pokemon
Try again till you catch it, lore wise it’s strong enough it doesn’t really care at all, and it’s also really lonely and just is barely trying because it wants a friend

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It’s shoehorning but

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It’s not as forced and you still get player involvement and there’s proper lore

sweet crypt
#

Tbh I didn't give it much thought, I just beat the mcfuck out of Eternatus and then got excited when I realised I was allowed to actually use it for Leon because Eternatus looks cool as hell

nocturne widget
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Eternatus fight:

Nuh uh. Screw your team. You don’t do shit. Deus ex machina these legendaries from the other side of the entire planet.

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You don’t get a playstyle choice

sweet crypt
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We did also collect the funny dogs' items

nocturne widget
nocturne widget
#

Still though

sweet crypt
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And it's only half a region away yippee!

nocturne widget
#

A simple change to make it feel even somewhat better?

sweet crypt
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I mean tbf they do have fucking 136 speed

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Or was it 137?

nocturne widget
#

Just
Have the two

Already BE present

sweet crypt
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I forgot

nocturne widget
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So just

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Have the players, rivals, and both doggos together
No one does shit

sweet crypt
nocturne widget
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Items get used

sweet crypt
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And that'd make PVP in Gen 8 unplayable

nocturne widget
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Now the doggos actually can damage eternatus and now it actually has a reason why you take over as playing as the doggo’s

nocturne widget
sweet crypt
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For a fight so easy that you really don't need to tell the dog what to do

nocturne widget
sweet crypt
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I dont think the game gives you control of the dogs normally does it?

nocturne widget
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Oh wait it don’t

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Piss did I

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Ah shit my randomizer fucked my memories somehow

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I’m so stupid

sweet crypt
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Dw about it

nocturne widget
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Still was a lame fight tho

sweet crypt
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I wonder what Eternamax's signature max move would've been if it was playable

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Probably something like

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E-Max Cannon

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Or some shit

nocturne widget
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“Fuck your game system”

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OHKO’s
100% accuracy
Has so much VFX it crashes both players systems

solemn wadi
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Anyone know any romhacks that have za megas?

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I was thinking abt trying Emerald Exceede which has up to gen 8

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I want a rom that has all pokemon/megas up to date

past cairn
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Like how many roms/fangames can you name that have both gen9 and megas in the same game

past cairn
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Now consider how long it takes for new Pokemon to be added to a normal fangame then add the fact the megas would have to be custom made from scratch and the fact there's probably no demand for it besides you since the people who want them are currently playing ZA rn

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I'm sorry but I highly doubt anyone will be making em in any fangame for a WHILE

solemn wadi
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Yea seems like it, main romhack I wanted to try was emerald exceeded iirc

past cairn
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At the very least you're gonna be waiting for everyone to get over the new megas and then want them to return

sweet crypt
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As well as some fanmade Megas

terse pollen
#

I imagine it'll take a while for za megas to be added

sweet crypt
#

The main ones I noticed the absences of are the Kalos Starters

frank lily
rich tundra
#

bisexual toucans

edgy juniper
#

Got a pretty decent munchlax

clever coral
#

what pokemon fan game is also unique and fun like this?

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and has more gens

supple basalt
#

Rejuvination and all games by the same creator. Insurgence if you like edge. This Gym of Mine where you just play as a gym leader

tranquil scroll
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My one gripe with this gym of mine is no controller support

supple basalt
#

There is

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I used it

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Lol

tranquil scroll
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When I last played I couldn’t get mine to work

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Though it was about 2 years ago

supple basalt
#

Wait

#

Hold the fuck on. Why didn't Volcarona's fire storm thing let me choose an option?

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Oh it did I just clicked too fast

edgy juniper
#

Silly

supple basalt
#

Floor 163, no rusted sword =_= This is ridiculous

broken temple
#

theres also pokemon pathways
but i found that the preformance is horrible at alot of places and its really noticeable

noble zealot
#

My favourite Pokémon characters:

brisk hedge
#

TF is this?

sweet crypt
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(Or something idk, Fandom Wikis are just often vandalised so I'm assuming that's what happened here)

noble zealot
#

TV Tropes

sweet crypt
ashen ruin
#

ok that was worth it

terse pollen
#

hoopla

ashen ruin
#

just gonna abyss cycle

terse pollen
#

Good luck

sweet crypt
#

Nah you don't need luck for abyss with a Xerneas, it's free

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Actually Xerneas makes Pokerogue in general free

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Xerneas is so strong

ashen ruin
#

I want Yveltal

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also sacred fire arcanine is kinda hype

ashen ruin
thorn hawk
#

how

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just pure how

supple basalt
#

Lmao that was me couple days ago

terse pollen
#

54 is cool but would've been better if it was 67

supple basalt
#

That moment when Eternatus refuses to Eternabeam

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It won't eternabeam what the fuck

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Oh well lol won anyway

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Didn't even use Xerneas

sweet crypt
#

I wonder what a community tierlist of all Pokemon would look like

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I suspect that Charizard would be around like

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The lower third of the tierlist

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Based off all the hate it gets

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Possibly Pikachu would be there too? Idk

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These 2 get hated a lot for popularity though tbh as it is right now they are anything but popular

thorn hawk
#

what pokemon are in the fusion game like what gens

sweet crypt
#

But since you asked, Gens 1 to 7

thorn hawk
#

sorry

sweet crypt
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Not all Pokemon in that range though

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There's some missing

thorn hawk
#

probly some legendarys

smoky gyro
terse pollen
#

We've probably got 6 or 7 months of it left

tranquil scroll
sweet crypt
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Found a video about unobtainable Pokemon with Eternal Flower Floette running in fear from Majin

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Which is funny to me not because ||Eternal Flower Floette is obtainable because it wasn't when the video was made||

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But because realistically Floette would be one of the best Pokemon to fight Majin

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252+ SpA Fairy Feather Floette-Eternal Light of Ruin vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Spiritomb: 422-498 (104.4 - 123.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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For those that are unaware, Majin is one of the props in Pokestar Studios

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It is a Dark/Ghost type with 100 BST in every stat

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And its ability?

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Wonder Guard

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The only things that threaten it are indirect damage, ability negation/ignoring and, as luck would have it, Fairy types

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Like ones with 125 SpA

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As well as a 140 BP move

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Yeah those work pretty well against Fairy-Weak Pokemon

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Iirc in Pokestar Studios, the way the game wanted you to beat Majin was with Toxic damage

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Well, close enough

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The game gives you damage over time in the form of Will-O-Wisp

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Apart from that though the only way you can hit it with the rental Pokemon is Soak+Energy Ball on Octillery

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Majin has a 44 level lead on Octillery btw

sweet crypt
#

Fun fact: Pokemon Stadium fixed a bunch of glitches present in RBY

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And others...

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Well, let's look at the 1/256 glitch

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Due to an error in calculating accuracy, every move only has 255/256 of its displayed accuracy

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... Or was it an added 1/256 chance to miss?

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Well, you aren't noticing it unless you're using a 100% accurate move

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Gamefreak was aware of this, so how did they fix it in Stadium, you may wonder?

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Well, they ran the accuracy check a 2nd time!

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Yknow, the same one that caused the glitch in the first place?

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This transcends the 1/256 glitch to the funnier and rarer 1/65536 glitch

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It also fixed the Hyper Beam Glitch

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And made Hyper Beam the dogshit noobtrap move it was intended to be

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As well as fix the Ghost vs Psychic interaction

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Now you can fail to 3HKO Abra with your Lick Gengar

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Yippee!

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I'm not joking

#

There's genuinely a pretty substantial chance for Gengar to fail to 3HKO Abra with Lick

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Gengar Lick vs. Abra: 78-92 (30.8 - 36.3%) -- 57.8% chance to 3HKO

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42.2%

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This is a Pokemon with 25/15 physical bulk btw

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One thing it did fix that matters is Focus Energy

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It now quadruples Crit Rate like intended instead of quartering it

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There are also a few glitches that Bulbapedia is unsure if Stadium patched

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The Freeze Dysync Glitch and the Divide by Zero Glitch

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It does fix the Become Invincible Glitch

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Basically, hitting yourself/getting full Parad while Flying or Digging forces you into permanent invulnerability

#

You can still attack during this

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A glitch it fails to fix is the HJK crash glitch

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Where HJK instead if doing 1/8th of the damage it would've dealt if it had landed when missing

#

It does, uhh

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1

smoky gyro
#

Another latios ramble has strucketh

lavish dune
vast quiver
#

Sorry to be a bother with this question but on scarlet or violet does anyone have like 17-18 masterballs i could have because I'm trying to catch all the legendarys in them and I've ran out

lean vapor
#

uh

#

you can only get one

sweet crypt
#

Let's go gambling!

#

Aw, dang it

#

Aw, dang it

#

Aw, dang i-

lean vapor
#

oh

vast quiver
#

Im out of pokemon materials

supple basalt
#

You don't have to rely on your Pokémon hitting everything and it's really effective :)

vast quiver
#

Good idea but I dont wanna miss out on possible shinys

sweet crypt
#

Idk I have a pretty good spot for grinding BB quests and materials I think

supple basalt
sweet crypt
#

Usually I just get my Pokemon to commit genocide

supple basalt
#

I prefer to be the Pokémon because it's annoying when they just stop attacking everything around them lol

vast quiver
#

Hypothetically can I hold a mastterball make a ditto or sm else to transform into my pokemon and use theif and claim masterballs that way?

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Nvm did that

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It failed

lavish dune
#

g-lax is so powerful its insane

#

out here walling the entire kalos e4

lavish dune
#

7 epic eggs in this classic haul

terse pollen
#

5 uxie and 2 azelf trust

sweet crypt
#

5 Uxie 2 Mesprit

lavish dune
#

I actually just won my last run with mesprit

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Also totally wonder guarded the absolute FUCK outa the Kalos champion

#

Then xerneas came out here with strength sap like an ASSHOLE

#

Then eternatus stole my gah damn focus band, shell bell, leftovers, AND reviver seed

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But g-lax got rage powder and walled the hell outta him

supple basalt
sweet crypt
supple basalt
#

I've had Eternatus rev before

#

Never again XD

sweet crypt
#

Remember when you couldn't freely trash items?

#

Yeah because of that I reflexively avoid Reviver Seeds

vast quiver
#

Does anyone have master balls because the item printers luck isn't helping me and I don't wanna mess with my switches time to do rng manipulation

vast quiver
#

Nvm got some

static hatch
#

Got my third badge, how's my nuzlocke team looking?

tranquil trout
#

My Luckiest Sandwich till now

#

Got both in under 14 minutes

lavish dune
#

oh BABY lucky blues

covert fiber
#

Im allowed to send this without spoilers right?

covert fiber
wild ore
lavish dune
sweet crypt
#

The rest are a bit underwhelming though (0 new move on Chien-Pao it's so over)

terse pollen
lavish dune
sweet crypt
#

Oh also Garticuno is new, isn't it?

#

So that's 1 Pokemon closer to getting Eternatus

lavish dune
#

true enough

terse pollen
sweet crypt
#

I reckon all 3 of Articuno, Moltres and Regice could 1v1 Eternatus with those moves

lavish dune
#

ehhhh, etern has flamethrower tho dont he?

sweet crypt
terse pollen
#

Regice is not that guy

sweet crypt
#

And those Sludge Bombs are 1.5× stronger than Flamethrower too

#

Apart from Eternatus though bro's a fraud

#

But Regice 1v1s Eternatus and you can't take that achievement away from it

lavish dune
sweet crypt
lavish dune
#

ah

sweet crypt
#

Which can 1v1 while tanking those Sludges

#

I usually prefer to Tera to stay safe but I've beaten Etern with Fini after burning Tera on the Rival before

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Not from Sludge Bomb though

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From Phase 2 Cross Poison

lavish dune
#

i have all 4 of the OG regis now. i think once their cost gets low enough ill do a run with the squad

lavish dune
#

endless has 15 point limit, so maybe?

#

itd be close

sweet crypt
#

OK but running that in Endless sounds like a death sentence

sweet crypt
#

We are so fucking back

#

Also I think Clobbopus just saved the run

#

Bro KOd both Lt Surge's Jolteon and his ALOLAN RAICHU

#

I KOD AN ALOLAN RAICHU WITH A CLOBBOPUS

sweet crypt
#

Fun fact: The Berry Pouch works on the Reviver Seed

sweet crypt
#

Ngl sometimes it feels like these Magnezones have As One (Sturdy + No Guard)

terse pollen
#

If you use zap cannon it's 10% but if they use zap cannon it's 100%

sweet crypt
#

Mono Fighting run is done

#

I am shocked

#

I did not expect this team to beat the final boss at all

#

But I got very good vitamin luck

terse pollen
#

Very nice

sweet crypt
#

As well as good Starf boosts

terse pollen
#

What did you use for Eternatus?

#

Three of your team are weak to fire

sweet crypt
#

I tanked 2 Flamethrowers with Mega Lucario thanks to Zincs, HP Ups and a Sitrus + Enigma heal

#

And I got 3 stages of Speed with Salac and Starf

#

Then Eternamax Eternatus forgot to target Lucario

#

Very lucky win

terse pollen
#

That's crazy

#

Nice one

sweet crypt
#

I probably should've lost tbh

terse pollen
#

If you won by being lucky then it's all skill

#

trust

sweet crypt
#

That's Mono Fighting Random done

#

Because yeah I'm asking Pokerogue to pick my team at random for me

#

I think Riolu was the last mon it picked for this batch

terse pollen
#

I didn't realize you could do that

sweet crypt
#

Mega Heracross could probably beat Eternatus the same way Lucario did

#

But it would not have been able to handle the Rival, I think

#

The rival had Intimidate Salamence, Intimidate Staraptor and ofc Mega Ray

#

I have done a fully random run of all 9 Generations, as well as Mono Normal, Poison and Fighting

#

I have 2 runs lined up, Ground and Flying

#

My Ground strategy is simply use Garchomp

#

And once I get to Eternatus, I should hopefully be able to at least take down Phase 1 with Garchomp

#

And then from there, I stall Eternatus out with Eviolite Pupitar, Runerigus and Hippowdon

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Flying is much more simple since I got Flamigo and I got Calm Mind users

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So I just win

#

I also have Pinsir in the back

#

So if I get Pinsirite, it's even more over for the entire game

#

I also have mons like PopBomb Pikipek

#

I would elaborate but as it turns out 3 of my mons use either Calm Mind or Quiver Dance

#

Blue Shiny Tynamo and HA on both Klawf (Regenerator) and Cetoddle (Sheer Force)

vivid hearth
#

this move set for a level 1 eevee dosent make sense to me why does he know a ghost move he hatched from an egg

nocturne widget
#

Because he hatched from an egg

sweet crypt
#

I did not know Shadow Ball was an egg move for Eevee tbh

#

I knew it got it via TM, didn't know it got it via breeding

#

The remaining 3 moves are all Level 1 moves I think

supple basalt
#

Considering I always stuck Shadow Ball on my special eevees suddenly hatching Eevees with Shadow Ball was quite interesting lol

sweet crypt
#

Ahh... I see

#

Before Gen 6, all TM Moves were Egg Moves

#

Well, assuming Bulbapedia is right

brisk hedge
supple basalt
#

I know I hadn't when it first happened to me lol

vivid hearth
#

this is my first time breeding a Pokemon

unkempt egret
#

yea TM moves can also be passed down if both members can learn it from what I recall

supple basalt
#

No

#

That's not a thing lol

unkempt egret
#

from bulb: "Prior to Generation VI, a bred Pokémon will inherit any TM/HM moves which its father knows, if it is compatible with that TM/HM"

nova marlin
#

lil wally

supple basalt
#

Huh. Interesting. Either I didn't do as much breeding as I thought I did in G4

supple basalt
lean vapor
hasty gorge
supple basalt
#

I HAVE A CHEETO ZACIAN (It's actually a pumpkin but idc :P)

hasty gorge
supple basalt
#

AWW

full onyx
#

We love clown evee

lean vapor
#

i guess someone was hasty in catching that shiny

pliant monolith
#

I'm opening a Pixelmon server! Join my Discord to help and be part of it?

supple basalt
#

?tag rule10

ebon pondBOT
#

Rule 10 DISALLOWED CONTENT: Self-promotion/Advertisement. This has been a grey area in the past and a little unclear on when it is and is not appropriate to do, so from now on we are asking you all to simply not do it here, thanks!

supple basalt
#

@pliant monolith pawpointup

lean vapor
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what would pokemon crystal look like if it was raikou / entei on the cover and what would it be called if they were on the cover

sweet crypt
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Ngl if Talonflame didn't exist Toucannon would've almost definitely been a Fire Type

delicate hollow
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How very fitting for lance to have a team of 3 slaking 2 dragonite and an oddish in heart and soul randomiser

brisk hedge
unkempt egret
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it doesn't prevent it we just wouldn't want two in a row when the second one's a straight downgrade over the first one

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(see also: emboar and infernape/blaziken)

tranquil trout
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God packk?!!!

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My god 😱

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💀💀💀

brisk hedge
supple basalt
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That's like saying Infernape being Fire/Fighting meant the next two fire starters shouldn't have that typing. 🙃

unkempt egret
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which is something we said a lot during gen 5 and the leadup to gen 6 rofl

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also I know about the normal/flying streak we just accepted it since double standards and all

supple basalt
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When people were sick of the Fire/FIghtings:

Gamefreak: Aww shit Inceniroar can't be fighting type. Well we aren't redesigning it so let's make a wrestler into a dark type instead

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XD

unkempt egret
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imo most of that was just people not wanting to directly say they were disappointed in emboar being slower than infernape and blaziken (and generally just worse since speed is The One Stat To Rule Them All a lot of the time in pokemon)

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then again I feel like no matter what I say people will say "no actually..." so I dunno why I'm even bothering with saying anything

sweet crypt
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I mean it works in Swellow's favour at least, it can abuse Guts Facade

supple basalt
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I hate saying Emboar is the best G5 starter but it has actually being a dual type on its side

sweet crypt
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And I guess technically Unfezant can abuse Super Luck Slash?

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Idk

unkempt egret
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and noctowl's in-game since it can hard wall morty (especially if you get insomnia in HGSS)

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though you're gonna be chipping him out a while with just confusion

sweet crypt
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This made me look at Morty's team

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And, uh

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Those are moves

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I feel like any Normal type fucks this gym up like what are these moves

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Assuming the Normal type gets a non Normal move

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I see precisely 3 ways for Morty to damage a Normal type

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Hypnosis Dream Eater (blocked by Substitute), Curse (blocked by Substitute) and Sucker Punch (5 PP, you just click Substitute 5 times and you win)

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Curse doesn't work into Substitute in this generation

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Question is, can you get Substitute by now?

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... Yes, you can get an infinite amount of it even so you don't need to worry about using it up

unkempt egret
sweet crypt
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I have a pretty stupid idea rn

hard plume
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If 5SOS was a pokemon team

nova marlin
lavish dune
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why does pidgeot do so little damage in rogue T_T

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this dude cant 1-shot a lurantis with bleakwind and a level advantage

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im not convinced this team can make it to the end

hasty gorge
rich tundra
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UN UN UN

ashen ruin
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i had a feeling it would come down to this...

past cairn
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Volcarona

ashen ruin
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it was both

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it was a 1v1 and i chose ogerpon, then it was volcarona vs the ones i had previously eliminated, going backwards

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got some of the quick favorites out of the way

broken temple
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regis mentioned
life is good

sweet crypt
supple basalt
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Pidgeot is one of the worst route 1 birds if I remember right

sweet crypt
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It's hard to say who's the worst between it, Noctowl and Toucannon, tbh

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I'd say Unfezant is certainly better than base Pidgeot just by comparing their stats

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In Pokerogue it definitely is the worst bird

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But its Mega is probably the best?

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This applies to them outside of Pokerogue to, except Corviknight is certainly the best bird even then

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What even is Gen 9's early bird

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I've asked this before but I still don't know

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Squawkabilly? Flamigo? Kilowattrel?

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The latter 2 land in the upper half of early birds

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And Sqauwkabilly is still better than Pidgeot, Noctowl and Toucannon for sure

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And probably Unfezant too

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Similar speed and Unfezant technically has more Attack

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But Squawkabilly has far superior abilities

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If I were to rank the birds, it'd be like

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(I'm doing my research rn be patient)

supple basalt
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I low key wish the blue was a different color but. Still love it

sweet crypt
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Man there is barely any info for me to go off for Toucannon, Noctowl and Unfezant in particular

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Well, and Pidgeot

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But that's because Pidgeot is a bum

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The other 3 do usually have some place in ZU

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But dexit makes it really hard for direct comparisons

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Same applies to Swellow but it isn't a problem there since all I need to know is how good Swellow is compared to Staraptor

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And I know it's slightly worse

supple basalt
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Pokerouge has a website

sweet crypt
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And since the next best is Squawkabilly of all things, this is no problem

sweet crypt
supple basalt
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Like a wiki

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You could use to compare

sweet crypt
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I'm talking about mainline rn

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In Pokerogue I can simply do runs with them

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Since I do have all of them unlocked

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In a Pokerogue context, if I count Flamigo, Flamigo clears

supple basalt
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Oh

sweet crypt
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Though in a mainline context I have it ranked at 4th right now, behind Corv, Mega Pidgeot and Talonflame

supple basalt
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I think Fearow gets more G1 use than Pidgeot, even though Pidgeot's the one with the mega

supple basalt
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Gen one?

sweet crypt
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Oh yeah probably when it comes to full game usage

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It's not like Mega Pidgeot is in Gen 1

supple basalt
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Yeah I was referring to casual use ig

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But Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee has Mega Pidgeot

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Travis (?) uses it

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Idk his name

sweet crypt
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There's Mega opportunity cost and obtainability that makes that an issue

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There's plenty of other good Megas to use, and in general megas are late game

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Mega Pidgeot is a very strong Mega, don't get me wrong

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Thinking about it, I'd imagine it'd be fighting for 5th best with Mega Venusaur

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But that does still mean there's 4 better Megas