other-pokemon-games

[sweet crypt]

Zangoose can't learn Extreme Speed though?

[lavish dune]

it was an assumption

i dont generally keep track of learnsets

[smoky gyro]

It doesnt

Im now confused

Doesnt psychic terrain block priority?

Or is it only priority targeted at your OPPONENTS?

Cause why can you self helping hand

[sweet crypt]

Psychic Terrain blocks priority from opposing Pokemon specifically

[smoky gyro]

Isnt that an outlier?

Cause misty terrain doesnt work like that

Electric doesnt

Grass doesnt

[sweet crypt]

It's probably specifically so that you don't just

Fail to use Helping Hand or Protect

[smoky gyro]

And in this case it was a side water shuriken

Into a stamina archaludon

[sweet crypt]

A world where Psychic Terrain blocks Protect would be hilarious actually

[odd mason]

If i lower a pokemon with 1 cost does it become freeze

[sweet crypt]

What kind of plesiosaur do you think is in the fossilised dino?

Because it is called the fossilised plesiosaur in Japanese

Like is it a plesiosauroid or a pliosauroid?

[unkempt egret]

late but all of them do have a secondary effect like that

like grassy terrain lowers the power of earthquake/bulldoze/magnitude (specifically), electric prevents sleep, and misty... it's hard to tell if "safeguard for everyone" or "weaken grounded dragon moves" is the intended use for it since neither are great

[sweet crypt]

They're referring to the secondary effect only working on attacks from opposing Pokemon

Not the existence of a secondary effect itself

[unkempt egret]

ah

[sweet crypt]

Imagine if Psychic Terrain actually blocked Protect

Actual world-ending scenario

Billions must Specs Expanding Force

[smoky gyro]

I still dont know why they did that

Whats the point of Electric terrain preventing sleep

If Misty already denies all status

[lunar niche]

If there's Unova remake, I want Pokémon black 2 and white 2 get the remake because I think the sequel is better than the original ones. In terms of story. Plus the sequel has more post game contents. So i say the original black and white will stay in the ds

[sweet crypt]

Tbf, I'd imagine it'd be hard to fall asleep when you're standing on electrified ground

[smoky gyro]

Well yeah its just

The overlap is weird

[odd mason]

no, you would sleep longer

[smoky gyro]

Bro gave up immediately lmao

[odd mason]

why is the ogerpon red

[rich tundra]

Because it can do that

[odd mason]

I know nothing about gen 9

[unkempt egret]

it's wearing a Fire Mask which basically changes its type (to grass/fire in this case instead of pure grass)

no stat changes, just adjusts type, ability (to... mold breaker I think?) and what stat it has boosted when it goes tera (+attack in this case, default is +speed)

[odd mason]

Gen 9 and gen 7 are the only two modern pokemon gens to span across two consoles

[sweet crypt]

Also changes the type of the signature move

[sweet crypt]

Bro got Encored into Swords Dance and just gave up rip bozo

[unkempt egret]

right yea it does that too

[sweet crypt]

Hey chat, excluding Unown (because it'd be 1st), Luvdisc (because it'd be 2nd) and Meltan (because it is only fully evolved by technicality), what do you think is the weakest fully evolved Pokemon?

[unkempt egret]

the usual one I see is Ledian but I feel like that's probably surface level?

[sweet crypt]

Main candidates are like Delibird, Spinda and Farfetch'd I think

[unkempt egret]

I was gonna say those at least have some decent use cases but I'd probably argue Spinda more than the other two since its use case specifically requires both its HA and a move I don't think it can even use anymore

so probably out of those 3, spinda would be the worst

[sweet crypt]

I dont care if Spinda has Contrary Superpower I cannot comprehend it being better than even shit like Ledian

It's so bad

While looking for lower BST fully evolved mons, I found out that Rufflet has a higher BST than Pidgeotto

[unkempt egret]

yea I was thinking does spinda even get anything to use contrary with now

since superpower was specifically dream world only, not even from tutors

[sweet crypt]

Give it Superpower I don't care

It'll use Superpower once and instantly die

At least Ledian can like

Take a singular Special attack

And set up one, maybe even both screens due to its not 100% abhorrent speed

Many mons can do it better but it can in theory do that against very specific Pokemon

Spinda just does nothing of note

Same with Farfetch'd

Delibird I guess it can like idk

Lay Spikes or Spin

And then die

[unkempt egret]

yea flat 60's across the board is like bottom of the barrel in terms of stats

[sweet crypt]

So I guess that puts it above the other 2 maybe???

[unkempt egret]

delbird also has hustle aerial ace if you wanna tickle something before getting slammed for at least 4x the damage you just did

[sweet crypt]

They should give it like

Every entry hazard

I mean it probably carries spikes in its tail sack right?

So it could probably carry other hazards there too

It'd be funny

[smoky gyro]

Thats...no

Weakest FULLY evolved Pokemon implies they HAVE an evolution line

Unown and Luvdisc are single stage

[sweet crypt]

That's semantics

[smoky gyro]

Meltan idk cause idk how Melmetal evolves

[sweet crypt]

You know what I mean

[sweet crypt]

Meltan can only be evolved in Pokemon GO

It cannot evolve in the main series, and can't even use Eviolite

AKA: It is, by all means, at the end of its 1-Pokemon Evolutionary Line by technicality

But like look at those stats

LOOK AT THAT MOVEPOOL

Tbh this may find a way to somehow be worse than Luvdisc

Unown... yeah, no, it's Unown

[smoky gyro]

As someone whos played randbats a lot

Luvdisc has an unironic use

Sub 4 times cause its so fast and then endeavor

[sweet crypt]

Yeah but that's when it's at Level 100

[smoky gyro]

And then die

[sweet crypt]

Vs lower leveled mons

With preset movesets and random teams

Most teams will have at least 2 mons that can deal with that

If not more

[smoky gyro]

I love trolling people

[delicate hollow]

Question please?
Arceus is known as an Alpha Pokemon and was once known in legends as the "first" Pokemon correct? Does this make Arceus a God and an almighty powerful God people worship and praise him like a religion?

[rich tundra]

I mean people usually praise legendary pokemon as gods so I mean Yeah Probably

[odd mason]

how do I get the nerd pikachu

[supple basalt]

Nerd Pichu?

In wha game?

[sweet crypt]

I just found out that Nerd Pikachu's signature move is... Electric Terrain

Take a few moments to guess what's wrong with that

Well tbf maybe Pikachu doesn't get Eterrain this gen

I mean I sure as hell hope it doesn't

Otherwise what's the point lmao

Eterrain's also kinda ass as a move

You'll only ever use it via Electric Surge

[unkempt egret]

it's very much something you get good mileage out of when it's automatic but using it manually is too much of a turn commitment

[sweet crypt]

AKA: Basically every field effect in the game

[unkempt egret]

(pokemon has a lot of that really)

[sweet crypt]

With like idk maybe 1 or 2 exceptions

And those exceptions are like only in VGC, really

[unkempt egret]

yea if something isn't an attack, a set-up move, or in some cases a status-causing move, you have to really justify the turn you take to use it

[supple basalt]

Completely forget I replaced Fire Lash and clicked the spot it was in, despite the fact I did so several levels ago

[lavish dune]

cosmic power simple bibbarel is kinda busted

[lavish dune]

i got a silk scarf for my multi lens bibarel

with e-speed

he stronk

[lavish dune]

oh thats sad, its a shiny i already have

[sweet crypt]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9brokencup-2477989852-7kprlje1kdd6qusqdfvofd63sxducqrpw
I love Broken Cup

[lavish dune]

god simple is such an insane ability

mate is fully set up in like 2 turns

also Ivy out here losing to a level 35 poliwhirl with the switch in damage with a level 41 cinderace

oh hi

[thorn ether]

Moltress seems fair

Amd we got morgrem just chilling

[slate cave]

[sweet crypt]

252+ SpA 297 287 1004 315 241

[torn basin]

holy crap i thought people gasve up on that game

[mild dirge]

Ideas for making regigigas somewhat less ass:

1. Remove slow start and give it clear body like the other regis or something
2. Slow start counter no longer resets on switch/forced switch so just 5 total turns spent on field will deactivate the penalty and progress cant be reset
3. Slow start penalty is lessened for every turn spent on field and can go upwards example: zero turns spent is the default slow start, 1 turn passed is only 40%, 2 turns is 30% etc etc until 5 turns passed and then for every turn after that up to 50% stat boost in attack (not speed for obvious reasons)

[mild dirge]

4. Combine the 2 and 3 and make a new "Slow Start, Finish Fast" ability (name pending)
   The battle starts in the Slow Start "state", for every turn Regigigas spends on field the penalty of halved speed and attack is lessened by 10%. Turn 1 Start: Halved, Turn 2 Start: 40% Penalty etc etc. Turn 6 Regigigas is the same as a regigigas without slow start active, after Turn 6 Regigigas enters the Finish Fast "state" for every turn spent on field from this point on Regigigas attack grows 10% higher up to a max of 50%. Turn 6 Start: Neutral, Turn 7 Start: 10% Boost etc etc. The "turn counter" cannot be reset by being switched out if the counter is 0 through 5, (5 is turn 6 aka slow start is no longer active) at 6 through 10 it can be reset back down to 5 if regigigas is switched out but not below it.

[mild dirge]

and uh still get walled by abomasnow at max

this is just a worse zacian

i just realized

[sweet crypt]

"Walled" as if Regigigas doesn't have Fire Punch

[mild dirge]

25% chance to ohko

[sweet crypt]

Certainly ain't walling, is it?

Anyways there's like 0 way Slow Startless Gigas would be OU

110/110/110 bulk, 160 Attack, 100 Speed

These are not the stats of a balanced mon

I guess it at least kinda lacks good status moves

[mild dirge]

its also normal type which both helps and hinders it

it gets zero super effective stab moves

[sweet crypt]

Yeah no Normal's kinda mid

Which I mean

It's the NORMAL type

So fair enough tbh

[mild dirge]

normal is the painfully average type

It doesnt excel at anything

but it also doesnt really suck at too much either

super effective is a problem but normal types usually have a pretty diverse movepool

[sweet crypt]

Y'know what, bro has Knock Off

That's kinda neat

My ideas for a Slow Start change have generally been having Gigas start nerfed but end buffed

Like, -50%->-30%->-10%->+10%->+30%->+50%

[unkempt egret]

I remember using it in-game in a rando and the conclusion I made was "110/110/110 bulk is still 110/110/110 bulk rofl"

though that run I also played with the restriction that slow start never ended which was done by giving it an iron ball and only special attacks

[mild dirge]

the slow start finish fast was inspired by the phrase used by marathon runners

[sweet crypt]

80 SpA is usable in playthroughs tbf

[unkempt egret]

which fell off in the endgame but was at least okay off the bulk

[sweet crypt]

And it's a fatass

[unkempt egret]

yea plus the wide coverage of being a normal type

I think in endgame it was using icy wind to deal with dragons rofl (this was B2/W2)

[sweet crypt]

Does have very few special moves though weirdly

But some of what it has is pretty good

[mild dirge]

it gets thunder for some reason

[mild dirge]

even with this change thats still well over half the battle spent at a stat penalty (speaking in vgc terms cause double battles are much faster than the average showdown singles battle)

and zacian by sheer virtue of existing gets a higher effective attack and speed at the start of the battle with no penalty

(granted it was nerfed for obvious reasons in gen 9 but regigigas isnt in gen 9 i dont think)

[sweet crypt]

See, the issue is, you're comparing motherfucking ZACIAN to a physical attacker

Ofc Zac Ian is stronger

There's like, 1-3 physical mons you could argue are stronger

[mild dirge]

if zacian didnt have its stupid fucking intrepid sword boost it'd be around the same level as regigigas without slow start but much faster

[sweet crypt]

And with a better type too

[mild dirge]

literally who at game freak decided the new meta will be to give the newest legendary pokemon super high base stats

and also give them stat boosts for existing

[sweet crypt]

Look on the bright side, Caly-S doesn't get stat boosts for existing

It gets them for committing mass genocide

Which it does with relative ease

So it's only getting stat boosts for doing a hobby

[mild dirge]

fuck it we fix this by giving mewtwo neuroforce + unseen fist combo ability

[sweet crypt]

Still gets no diffed by Astral Barrage, it's Mewtwover

The only way to make Mewtwo not crumple in the face of Calyrex Shadow is like idk

[mild dirge]

HOW IS CALYREX FASTER THAN MEWTWO

[sweet crypt]

Give it Ice Scales

Or something

[sweet crypt]

Calyrex is absurdly quick

Probably the fastest Pokemon that's actually relevant in higher tiers

150 fucking Speed

[mild dirge]

fuck it new mewtwo ability
Perfect Cell
Parental Bond + Neuroforce

and mewtwo gets 30 more base speed

[sweet crypt]

Monkey's paw curls, Mewtwo loses 30 SpA to increase Speed and is now irrelevant even if it beats Calyrex

Anyways if I could make 1 buff to 1 Pokemon

I'd make it so that Soul Dew works like it used to

But specifically on Latios because I did say 1 buff to 1 Pokemon

Latias can go run Leftovers and cry in a corner or something

[mild dirge]

this is bullshit calyrex shadow still outspeeds because of scarf

[sweet crypt]

Then run Scarf on M2 I guess

And pray that you aren't actually facing Sash

[mild dirge]

dont forget the new ability

[sweet crypt]

True

[mild dirge]

does parental bond break sash

its been years since ive had to deal with mega kangaskhan

[sweet crypt]

Tbh though this seems too complicated

Just give bro Ice Scales and he'll tank that shit

[torn basin]

we allowed to talk about roms here i know it says other pokemon games but i am just wondering rather be safe then sorry

[mild dirge]

THE DEMON OF BABYLON

[sweet crypt]

We are allowed to talk about all roms, fangames and any other Pokemon game

[mild dirge]

you just cant discuss the obtainment

[torn basin]

okay great

[sweet crypt]

That's Specs

We have an alternative strategy for that

AKA: Pray that it isn't Specs

[mild dirge]

nah we give mewtwo choice scarf and the move trick

and take its specs

genius move

[sweet crypt]

Then it just

Hits us twice

[torn basin]

i just got my flashdrive working again and it had some old rom hacks i used to play back in the day like pokemon brown that bastard was hard as hell but i was wondering for more rom

[sweet crypt]

And we die

[mild dirge]

thats a problem for future mewtwo

[mild dirge]

if youre looking for new hacks to try play radical red if youre looking for actual roms cant help with that

[sweet crypt]

We cannot discuss rom obtainment if that's what you want

[mild dirge]

its overrated but I still like it

[sweet crypt]

But if you only want rom suggestions, then uhh

Idk lol

[torn basin]

that is fair

and makes sense now that i think about it

[sweet crypt]

I'm a fan of Elite Redux though

But it certainly isn't for everyone

[torn basin]

whats funny thats actually on my flashdrive

[sweet crypt]

On account of the fact that every Pokemon has 4 abilities and is broken at the bare minimum

But I like it because it lets you be as broken as your opponents

[torn basin]

i am just looking for fun ones and ones that might be hard as hell but not darksouls level hard

[sweet crypt]

Well don't worry because I don't think there's a single romhack that is even remotely comparable to the Dark Souls trilogy in difficulty

Well

Idk maybe Run and Bun fits that criteria

[unkempt egret]

ROFL OOPS

[torn basin]

my guy pokemon brown enough said said that game i dont know if it was becuse i was young and very stupid as a kid or if it was actually hard as hell i remmber in area 1 you had a starter around lvl 1-10 and the legit mons were around lvl 30 and the trainers were higher

[unkempt egret]

I got munchlax's egg ticket but forgot to evolve it so I don't have snorlax's

also I have no clue why but the dark souls comment just makes me think of what pokemon bosses would be like if they had cuphead-like quips if you lost

[sweet crypt]

I can't think of any because I'm not smart

[mild dirge]

this is number 4 cleaned up more

I could make this a banned to ag pokemon on showdown (maybe) if I increase the power change rate or make it so the counter ticks even when off field so at turn 11 in any battle regigigas becomes a literal unstoppable force

the latter will likely be miraidon level except with no terrain and no super effective stab hits

[odd mason]

I'm playing pokerouge

and my arch nemisis pulled up

clemont

[sweet crypt]

Still can't believe that they got him

[odd mason]

who

[unkempt egret]

gonna set up 3 runs with the double shiny amulets before the event ends, I know the x2 shiny rate doesn't carry but can be useful to store them until the next shiny event which will probably be Christmas

since I probably won't be playing pokerogue until then since my docket's gonna be focusing on other PC games until then lol

man vulpix sucks for actually KO'ing things but it's hilariously decent at a catch-em-some run rofl

[mild dirge]

oops included an older image along with it

two variants of the ability since I couldnt decide if giving regigigas an effective base stat total of 810 was too broken and that 785 was more balanced (even though youd have to have regigigas on field nerfed for 5 total turns and from that point leave it on field for another 5 to get the full boost of 810)

this would be where i'd post this for Theorymon Thursday but 1. it's sunday 2. regigigas is banned from Theorymon Thursday because of it's nature of being the most hated thing by gamefreak

[unkempt egret]

ngl the varoom bit is a really good joke but otherwise yes

[supple basalt]

Cashed in all my egg tickets.

[lavish dune]

unfortunately it didnt want to cooperate so its dead

well it will be, i have an idea so imma try that before it just dies

nah it died

[mild dirge]

https://youtu.be/SyvpCQyr0zM

Really? No mewtwo in the honorable mentions?

[lavish dune]

bruxish, duh

[broken temple]

its clearly drowzee

[mild dirge]

Nah it’s espurr

[modern oar]

He is talking about specifically VGC, which is why the choices were the way they were.

[mild dirge]

Do we count Nintendo cup 1997 as vgc

[modern oar]

I don't know what that is, so I don't know.

[mild dirge]

It was the first ever official Pokemon tournament

[modern oar]

I don't think he mentions that much at all if he does mention it.

[sweet crypt]

Even in Singles, Mewtwo is washed

Caly-S is the easiest 1st place in my life for Singles tbh

And I'm half expecting that the same applies for VGC

[mild dirge]

Mewtwo walked so Caly-S could run

[sweet crypt]

Overtuned bastard

[mild dirge]

Mewtwo was the first ever officially banned Pokemon in vgc

[sweet crypt]

2nd and 3rd's probably just NDM Lunala in Singles tbh

Unless you take like

Best of all time?

Which in that case, Gen 9 Caly-S is about as insane as Gen 1 M2

And 3rd is probably like

Gen 3 Deo-A or Gen 4 Deo-S

Maybe Gen 7/8 NDM

[mild dirge]

Also they’re one of two ubers in smogon red and blue format

Mewtwo because mewtwo
Mew because you can get a second mewtwo iirc

[sweet crypt]

How does Mew have anything to do with Mewtwo competitively

[mild dirge]

It can live a single attack from mewtwo and then copy mewtwo with transform

[sweet crypt]

Either ways you just lose because they got the first hit

While you were just clicking Transform

Transform will never be a viable move

It will only ever be viable as an ability

[unkempt egret]

another thing that you simply lose too much from using it manually vs. automatic

[sweet crypt]

Like I guess maybe if Mewtwo is like almost dead maybe Transform will not do jack shit? Idfk

[mild dirge]

Actually mewtwo can’t even 2 hit ko

[sweet crypt]

Then tf is Mew gonna do back?

Lose the trade?

Mewtwo not being able to 2HKO itself just means Mew won't 2HKO Mewtwo

[mild dirge]

No it mewtwo cant two hit mew

[sweet crypt]

And will start with 1 less hit's worth of HP remaining

[sweet crypt]

Yeah, and Mew is transforming into the bulkier Mewtwo

Which means that Mewtwo can't 2HKO Mewtwo

Which means a transformed Mew can't 2HKO Mewtwo

But yeah, as of Gen 9, Caly-S -> NDM -> Lunala in Singles

Of all time, Caly-S and M2 take 1st and 2nd in either order

And then 3rd can be Deo-A, Deo-S or NDM

[sweet crypt]

So basically Mew beats Mewtwo by

Not transforming

And instead blowing the shit out of it

Or paralysing it

[mild dirge]

the transform is a part of the mewtwo counter

since mewtwo almost always runs recover you can stall out the mewtwo

[sweet crypt]

From what I can tell the argument it's making is that Mewtwo can't make progress vs Mew

Which means Mew can't make progress vs Mewtwo

It isn't exactly just "Oh you have 2 Mewtwos" because realistically by the time Mew can defeat Mewtwo, it'll be low on PP and have to switch out

Thus meaning it isn't a 2nd Mewtwo anymore, it's just a Mew

That's what it seems like to me

[mild dirge]

I guess youre right

[sweet crypt]

Soft Boiled in base allowing it to recover frequently is a good point though

Though it's strange

Since like

I think Mew is the only Pokemon that can learn it via TM in Gen 1

That isn't y'know

Chansey

Does Clefable learn it in Gen 1? Idk

[sweet crypt]

(Already gets the move btw)

[mild dirge]

It’s mew or chansey who gets it

[sweet crypt]

Mew is the only mon who gains anything from the TM

Since Chansey just

Learns it naturally

Which makes it a really weird move to have a TM for

At least I'm pretty sure it was a TM in Gen 1

And that's why Mew gets it

[mild dirge]

It is

[sweet crypt]

Like can't you make it a TM for Recover instead? A move that'd be more applicable to other Pokemon with the same function?

[mild dirge]

Gen 1 makes a lot more sense when you realize they didn’t know what the fuck they were doing

[sweet crypt]

Anyways either ways I think Caly-S is the best Psychic type in VGC both of all time and in Gen 9

And in Singles you probably still could put Calyrex over M2

Honestly, Calyrex and Mewtwo aren't just the 2 best Psychic types of all time, but also just

The 2 best Pokemon of all time

Both are Psychic types, but one gains this strength by literally removing its type and the other gains it because of its type

Ain't that wacky

I mean heck, Psychic STAB on Calyrex is less mandatory than Grass Knot

And it doesn't run Tera Psychic ever

While it does so for all 3 of Ghost, Grass and Fairy, the types of the 3 other attacking moves you'd ever expect to see on a Calyrex Shadow, Astral Barrage, Grass Knot and Draining Kiss

[unkempt egret]

ROFL you somehow talked regigigas into showing up on my youtube feed I'm not sure how you did that

dunno if I'll watch but it is a neat idea though

also currently using shadow horse as a "immune to boomburst" mon but this is also a glaceon run so it's kind of a moot point

Freezy frost may be an awful move in pokerogue but Blizzard + snow warning at least makes up for it

[sweet crypt]

Ngl, Slow Start item on Pokemon that want to be slow for pivoting, TR or other purposes would be kinda heat

Tbf though, you do have other items for that

[unkempt egret]

I can see that yea, in that case since cressy does so well in TR

[sweet crypt]

That said crippling Attack as well could be so fucking funny

[unkempt egret]

also yea isn't that what room service (and to an extent lagging tail/iron ball/power item) does somewhat

[sweet crypt]

Imagine you're threatening a sweep with your Swords Dance Iron Valiant but the opposing Sableye hits you with that Prankster Trick Drowsy Amulet

I guess you could also Will-O-Wisp but that's significantly less funny and may not even save you from the incoming Knock Off

[unkempt egret]

the nice part about that is that even if it's not SD you probably still crippled it pretty hard by virtue of whacking its speed

[sweet crypt]

(Idk I haven't calced it)

(Spirit Break is not a real move btw)

It kinda compresses a few items into one

But a bit different

[unkempt egret]

it's amazing how much -10/15 base power just obliterates a move when it's something you're using for STAB

[sweet crypt]

Because like the halving Attack shit is most comparable to like Flame Orb

But this one just breaks your hands instead of setting you on fire

And as you know, being on fire is healthy for rhinoceros beetles

But broken limbs? Hell no

[unkempt egret]

also uh eevee review in pokerogue uuuh

[sweet crypt]

I'm probably doing a Sylveon run once I actually fucking get HA

Running that shit alongside Telepathy Fairy Aura Tapu Fini sounds hilarious

[unkempt egret]

Espeon is probably the best at doubles boomburst spam thanks to being 100% (and quick at that!) and also magician, Glaceon and Jolteon are also nice thanks to their niches (high speed + discharge and blizzard) but neither are 100%. Sylveon is also nice but make sure you don't run your HA on it so you aren't blowing up your own teammate with boomburst (or I guess just avoid lures if you wanna use boomburst lol) Vaporeon is alright but not spectacular, it's still perfectly workable and Flareon is worse but still passable with victory dance I guess?

Leafeon absolutley does not work in the context of boomburst so I can't exactly rate it that way and umbreon bad lol

Espeon, Umbreon, and Sylveon can at least be always evolved regardless of RNG so that's a point in umby's favor at least

wish they add a thing where Leafeon and Glaceon will also passively evolve if your'e in Forest and Icy Cave (forest?) to mimic the location evos

[supple basalt]

Carry Eevee with you in runs and whenever you get the training supplies event, make sure to select Eevee

For the hard training

[sweet crypt]

I know but that never pops up when you want to

[unkempt egret]

I think I got mine because the rich man event just randomly spawned eevee one time rofl

[supple basalt]

TRUTH

It only pops up when I don't have Delphox with me ngl

[sweet crypt]

Speaking of Pixilate Boomburst alongside Telepathy Fairy Aura Tapu Fini, Mega Altaria was fun

And also

PLEASE GAME GIVE ME BOOMBURST ON RALTS

I BEG OF YOU

[supple basalt]

Lol

Why is Delphox so good

Passive Psychic Surge blocks priority which is AMAZING

[sweet crypt]

Psychic Surge probably

[supple basalt]

Even before I had that unlocked it was super good

[sweet crypt]

Expanding Force used to be an egg move

[supple basalt]

It's the reason for my first Eternatus win

[sweet crypt]

Now you need to get lucky with TMs

It's sad because spamming Psychic Terrain Expanding Force is extremely funny

But oh well

[supple basalt]

Lol

It's fine I ended up with Drought on my Hisuian Lilligant last run since that's what I got from the clown...

Drought Solar Blade? Diabolical

[sweet crypt]

There's currently only 1 mon that can emulate that feeling without any RNG needed

But it's not quite with Expanding Force

The world shall never understand why Miraidon has Rising Voltage in Pokerogue

Because holy shit this KOs everything that isn't immune to it

[unkempt egret]

cost: 12

"have fun getting the candies required to bump this back down to a 10 cost"

[sweet crypt]

Would be a deserved nerf tbh

Tbh there's so many mons that just kinda instawin the game it's absurd

[supple basalt]

Most of them are legendaries I'm too lazy to grind candies for

[unkempt egret]

oh first time that happened

I already have aero but free 10 candy

[supple basalt]

Nice! I got a similar event in a shiny Aero guarding a berry bush

Finn's floor 145 fight gave me Lucario's mega stone :D

"An elderly man wants you to have his Hidden Ability Fidough"

I didn't even know Dachbun got an HA since people just use Well Baked Body

(I said no lol)

[lavish dune]

AYYYYY

[supple basalt]

Nice!

[terse pollen]

Nice!

[unkempt egret]

Nice!

...also didn't realize the event ended at 7PM my time and not 8PM

got two more tier 2's on the way out at least

[supple basalt]

YO I WANT THAT ZORUA

I love the T3 I have but that one is BETTER

HELLO

Lucario soloed Diantha lol

[terse pollen]

Very nice

[lavish dune]

debating whether or not i reset scum this one, i dont really care about entei but what if its sick yk

[lavish dune]

bah, if it was sick it wouldnt have been one-shot by body slam

it got lucky

[lavish dune]

well howdy

[supple basalt]

✨

[lavish dune]

oh hey i got that one too

got a little lavender blunt lmao

[supple basalt]

FOR ARCEUS' SAKE FINALLY

[lavish dune]

first win?

[supple basalt]

No. This isn't a boss

Endless mode

[lavish dune]

also that is a nutty level for that gastrodon, how many candies you shove in that thing?

ah

fair enough

can eternatus even fight a gastrodon?

[supple basalt]

Not on its own. It gets nuked in a single Eternabeam

[lavish dune]

fair nuff

[supple basalt]

I used Mimikyu and Floette as fairy shields against said beams and then when they were both dead, I switched to Barbaracle for it to nuke with eternabeam. I then did a bunch of dragon damage with Ampharos while the beam recharged. I then sent in Meowscarada as a noble sacrifice to another beam then did more with Ampharos. Amphy was nuked and Gastrodon's Earth Power did the last sliver of HP

Aka I abused Eternabeam recharge LOL

[lavish dune]

[supple basalt]

[lavish dune]

imma save up and mag dump vouchers at the end of this run

[terse pollen]

You love to see it

[lavish dune]

WHAT

LITERAL NEXT WAVE

AND THEN A BLACEPHELON, THE ISLAND IS GOATED

[sweet crypt]

We love gambling

[sweet crypt]

Literally just what I do

[lavish dune]

im gonna use the 3 epics i got cooking right now as an omen

ooooh yeah its a good blaceph too!

2 epics*

THE WATER LOOOOOVES ME

victini with 2 perfect IVs and an adamant iron valiant with increased IVs across the board, thats a DAMN good omen

[sweet crypt]

If only you got the rare egg move instead

I think that one's Victory Dance

[lavish dune]

im happy with it

[cerulean orbit]

Does anyone here play Pokemon Unite?

[sweet crypt]

Very sporadically, yes

But I'm bad at it, and getting good at the game is like

Stupidly difficult

Because you're "learning" against bots

[cerulean orbit]

I recently picked it up again like a month ago, I played since the beginning

[sweet crypt]

AKA: Fucking stomping them without needing to actually learn the game

Because the bots suck

[cerulean orbit]

I would say I'm fairly good at it!

But yes,

the bots are horrendous

[sweet crypt]

And then getting murdered when you actually face players

[cerulean orbit]

just stand there and let you destroy them

[sweet crypt]

Y'know unless the players are having the same issue as you

Which some do

Also game balance does not exist

The only recent Pokemon I have heard nobody complain about is Pawmot

[cerulean orbit]

It does... kinda... but yeah not really

[sweet crypt]

Empoleon in particular managed to be even more broken than release Mega Mewtwo Y

Which was widely considered the most broken Pokemon of all time before that

[cerulean orbit]

oh shit really? I haven't seen anyone use them at all

[sweet crypt]

It probably got hit by a harsh nerf

And then it got overshadowed by Zard X being also absurdly broken to an unfunny degree from what I know

[cerulean orbit]

I play all kinds of characters but I would say my best is probably Goodra. Can easily outlive a 3 v me fight

[sweet crypt]

Goodra's a mon that, to my knowledge, is far, FAR better vs bots than actual players

Like I think one of its moves has lifesteal

And the bots won't even attempt to dodge it

That said I don't play Goodra so I'm not entirely sure

The main mons I play are Buzzwole, Ceruledge and, if I'm in a bot match, Dodrio

The problem with playing Dodrio in a player match is that teammates aren't smart so there will be at least 2 other players jungling

Unironically bad players are worse players than bots

I also made a new account recently to play with friends at lower ranks and have been using Scyther quite a bit on that account

Player matches basically do not exist below Veteran

[cerulean orbit]

this is real

[sweet crypt]

There's nothing quite like seeing your jungler become more underleveled than you are while trying to hold off a lane vs 4 players at once while the rest of your team does who knows what

Actually tbf

The rest of the team is just losing the 3v1 on the other lane even harder than you're losing the 1v4

Which is borderline impressive

[bold spoke]

Yoooo guys can anyone help me get trade evolutions right now, just need someone to trade with n them give it back

[smoky gyro]

Idk why bro let me set up to +6

[untold mural]

Any other good pokemon games to play on joiplay build in rpg maker ? (Tried reborn, but thats garbage to me xD)

[lyric radish]

POKEROGUE!!!

its a browser game tho

[untold mural]

Playing that already haha, thanks tho

Addicting AF

[lyric radish]

fr

[untold mural]

Reached stage 1k yesterday for the first time in endless

[lyric radish]

W

i got a run where i do like 1 stage / 5-20min

...

i use crunch with 1atk mega ray so i wont ever kill the mon but i can steal ALL the items i need

with grip claws

[untold mural]

Hahahaha sick

Who do you pref as a carry for endless runs ?

[lyric radish]

ray but thats cuz hes my fav mon

ive hatched over 36 ray but no shiny 😭

[untold mural]

Sad times, i got a tier 2 Groudon yesterday. Happy life

Also a good carry

Tier 2 being blue star shiny

[lyric radish]

ik

ive played this game since release -_-

[untold mural]

Same but started with new account 2 weeks ago hehe

[lyric radish]

i have almost all passives

[untold mural]

Nice

[lyric radish]

also love this carry its a good bit stronger BUT it takes almost all your points to start w

[sleek jewel]

game name?

[lyric radish]

pokerogue

THE best fangame

[sleek jewel]

nope

[lyric radish]

Yep

[sleek jewel]

its pokemon luminescent platinum

[lyric radish]

No

[young sinew]

Anyone tried the new DX: XD Director's cut yet? im having a blast with it

[supple basalt]

What emulator?

Is required for it

3DS or NDS

[young sinew]

Dolphin. It's GameCube based

[supple basalt]

Dang

[odd mason]

Should I do a team sky run in pokerouge

[wild ore]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-michael-groth-mandjtv-mandjtv-plays-jaw-dropped-gif-26913239

Yez

[odd mason]

K

[odd mason]

how do trade evos work in pokerouge

[lavish dune]

rad

[lavish dune]

you find a link cable

[odd mason]

k

[lavish dune]

k (edited) is just a funny message to me

[odd mason]

hmm

wait till you find out about no (edited).

[lavish dune]

mad scientist the GOAT

hidden ability too, nifty

[cerulean orbit]

Ohh can you tell me a little bit about how this is different from the OG?

[young sinew]

Different starters, more shadow pokemon, more legendaries, items got redone, the trainer ai actually makes me work for my wins most of the time, some newer forms (H. Arcane for example), more wild encounters.
And some characters have their dialog redone, im not really a fan of the slang, but one villain uses 'skibidi' several times. I got a good laugh but I was like noooooooo

[cerulean orbit]

Ohhhhh

[delicate hollow]

What was the painting in Lilycove museum meant to be?
It describes as a legendary pokemon but ut looks like a pixelated plant monster

[modern oar]

Pokemon XD is one of multiple Pokemon games on the Nintendo Game Cube, so any ROM hacks on that are only able to be played on an emulator that can play Game Cube games.

[supple basalt]

I know what pokemon XD is, but I'm not used to XD having ROMHacks

I did not know that was even a thing lol since I usually associate ROMHacks with GBA/NDS/3DS

[modern oar]

But why would you assume that it would have a ROM hack that could work on those?

[supple basalt]

Cause people create ROMHacks mimicking other games on different "systems"

P sure there's a platinum ROMHack for the GBA emulator

[modern oar]

I don't do much emulating, so I don't have much to say here, but I'm pretty sure the systems in XD would be a bit tough to recreate on a different system.

[supple basalt]

I never said they were possible, but the cover shown looked like the title screen of handheld system romhacks

They didn't show any gameplay, just the cover

Either way it's my fault for not knowing XD could have romhacks

Sorry lol

(No sarcasm intended)

[modern oar]

The graphics to me looked like Game Cube graphics.

But I guess they do look somewhat similar.

[supple basalt]

In my defense, the only GC game I've actually played is Twilight Princess

XD

[modern oar]

I haven't played many Game Cube games, but I do remember a few.

[supple basalt]

I am sad I never got the chance to play XD because I can't get Dolphin to cooperate

Ever

[modern oar]

I never had a chance to play it either.

I honestly don't want to emulate it as it will soon be added to Nintendo Switch Online.(Though it is part of the more expensive version of Nintendo Switch Online I still am fine with that)

[sweet crypt]

Doing a random run in Pokerogue

The gameplan is simple

[supple basalt]

I'm going through Endless. At floor like

[sweet crypt]

Survive until I can get a Moon Flute

[supple basalt]

500 or something

[sweet crypt]

From there, victory is assured

[supple basalt]

Until you run into a dark type :)

[sweet crypt]

Nah, Lunala can 1v1 majority of those

[sweet crypt]

I will say, while Cosmic Power is much slower than QD or Calm Mind

It is even more effective at allowing Lunala to beat things it shouldn't

Like I just beat Grimsley's Boss Kingambit with Lunala

A Calm Mind/QD Lunala could've never done that

That's the run done

Despite the fact that I never got a single Max Mushroom or Mega Stone while having the Mega Ring and Dmax Band before I even fully evolved any member of the team

Because Lunala is just that strong

Even while using a set with 0 egg moves

And with no passive

It's like I said, if Cosmog wasn't so worthless and Lunala didn't need RNG to obtain even when starting with Cosmog, it'd be S+ tier

Gonna queue up another random run for later because I like these

And have nothing better to do

[odd mason]

Br left

no like where is he

turns out if you in a double battle kill both mons but in the turn rightbefore the death of the mon you have to use fly

and no more mon

team sky team

dont question seviper its for the candies

[supple basalt]

Snakes can fly

[odd mason]

Fair

[supple basalt]

Just like Mightyena can fly :)

[odd mason]

Elaborate

[supple basalt]

MandJTV's first team sky playthrough had a Mightyena

[odd mason]

huh

Is it bad I rarely watch his gameplay videos

i mainly just watch him laugh at shit

[sweet crypt]

Used to watch MandJTV a lot

[supple basalt]

You should watch all his team sky stuff and the John-Michael cup with PM7

[sweet crypt]

Recently watched his Z-A playthrough though and man it was agonisingly painful

[odd mason]

He's what keeps getting me back into pokemon

[supple basalt]

Yeah I don't watch him for his playthroughs lol

[odd mason]

Yeah i prefer to watch him read memes

[supple basalt]

I don't watch for memes either. I watch his Team Sky, sometimes other runs similar-ish videos, and the John-Michael cup because him and PM7 have the most hilarious bro energy ever

[odd mason]

Would clefable be allowed in a team sky run?

[supple basalt]

Idk take it up with the admin of TEAM SKY /j

[odd mason]

I mean technically it should because it comes from space

[supple basalt]

TRUTH

It's owned by Rayquaza surely it's allowed

[odd mason]

BatMan just learned crabhammer

I do belive it should

[supple basalt]

I haven't used Gligar since it lost floaty fall lol

[odd mason]

I just used it because low cost and came with fly

and the ground typing

[supple basalt]

Valid

[odd mason]

Because i hate clemont

he has ended 5 of my runs

[odd mason]

also dont question fearow and spearow

They are both on my team because i want both

[supple basalt]

Why don't you have SpearMint and FearMint

Crimes against birbs

[odd mason]

fair

never thought of it like that

Batman is already max level

for the area im in

ive only done 4 encounters

AZs FLOETTE

[supple basalt]

Yess I love it!

[main rune]

[odd mason]

batman was my only living mon

so i used to rouge balls ive been grinding for

FIRST BALL

[sweet crypt]

I never thought about it

But I've never seen any fangame or romhack ever include Eternal Floette

Except Pokerogue

There probably are others

But it's strange how little it pops up, I mean yeah it's always been unobtainable but still

Mythicals are nigh unobtainable and they're included decently often

[sweet crypt]

Did Brassius just use Calm Mind on his Sudowoodo?

[sweet crypt]

The Bug Type Superfan is a funny, funny event

Farigiraf killed literally everyone else in the final boss battle lmao

[unkempt egret]

always worth the fight just for the chance of quiver dance (or leech life to a lesser extent) showing up

[sweet crypt]

Let's do something a little fucked up now

So the last time I beat all the Monotype and Monogen challenges, I meticulously picked out the Pokemon that'd give me the best chances of winning

So what if I let Pokerogue pick at random?

Wish me luck

I think Starmie can handle Eternatus, so I just need to get there

[sweet crypt]

Starmie did indeed 1v1 Eternatus GGs

Almost lost at the Rival though

Starmie carried most of the run, though Mega Bee had to finish off Mega Ray after Starmie failed to OHKO with Moonblast

Gen 2 Random Run, and I've already won

I'm not sure if Eevee is allowed to Pickup on the Gen 2 run

If it isn't I'll just feed it a bunch of candies until it evolves into a Pokemon, preferably Espeon since it synergises better with the egg moves and would be beaten by Ttar easier

Doesn't seem like I'll have the luxury actually

The rival has Torchic

So I need Espeon for the the 55 and 95 rivals before I unlock Tera

And yes I know I have a fucking Elekid and Aipom on my team

This may be the first time I've seen the rival roll H-Zoro

The rival has a H-Zoro, Kingambit and Aggron

Mf does NOT want Espeon to do anything

(Espeon still swept)

[supple basalt]

How am I on floor 32 with nothing but a Luxio (I also have a thievel but it doesn't count since I caught it for extra nickit candies)

[past cairn]

Because you got gud

Proud of ya kid

[unkempt egret]

espeon being the GOAT in pokerogue

[sweet crypt]

gg ez

Random mons? No problem, simply roll Larvitar

Also I have all the songs used in JSaB in a playlist I have on shuffle rn

And Till It's Over perfectly ended as I beat Eternatus

Which is really fitting when you think about it as both Eternatus and the final boss of JSaB are big, pink and spiky

Tomorrow is the Gen 3 Pokerogue Random Pick run

And uhh

Hmm

I'm not feeling very optimistic

[supple basalt]

I lost on floor 114 BUT MY GOD LUXRAY

I had other team members I just caught but I only ever used them as switch ins. Didn't even teach them new level up moves lol

[sweet crypt]

I mean I got stupid lucky 2 times in a row

There's no way I get stupid lucky 3 times in a row right?

[supple basalt]

3rd time's the opposite of the charm

I want Shinx's last egg move now.

[past cairn]

Obviously a good choice

[supple basalt]

What floor do you bet I make it to this time

Think I might carry a T3 shiny for luck

[past cairn]

131

[supple basalt]

We'll see

[sweet crypt]

Y'know what? I got Salamence and I got Shedinja, this should be more than doable

I just need a good Tera on Sheddy to beat Eternatus

And Absol should be able to hold its own until Bagon evolves

[supple basalt]

YO

I love that

[supple basalt]

Eat shit Brock you got wrecked by an electric type

[lavish dune]

Don't forget to start like 8 runs before the shiny event ends lads

Lock in those shiny charms!

[supple basalt]

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Primarina has no legs-

[modern oar]

I guess it just uses its lower body?

[supple basalt]

I guess so?

[modern oar]

I honestly don't know how it is able to use that.

[lavish dune]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-slap-smack-face-fail-gif-4731473

[supple basalt]

THAT'S FAIR

XD

[modern oar]

That definitely would be funny if that is what it did.

[topaz fog]

it is simultaneously terrifying and hilarious

(has happened to me before irl)

floating down the river and a walleye or a bass or whatever decided no more mr nice fish

[lavish dune]

the burned trevenant desperately spamming shadow claw against my morning sun turtinator

Sisyphus would be proud

[lavish dune]

Dusknoir in his sunday best

THIS DUSKNOIR AINT PLAYING ON OFFENSE

[lavish dune]

I HAVE A BONE, PREPARE TO MEET GOD

[lavish dune]

ok im kinda getting walled actually

[lavish dune]

This dude is so defensive. +4 spdf, and the final bar has +2 def

Marowack is my best attacker, but eternabeam/dyna cannon will one-tap unless I can get up misty terrain, and that only lasts so long

[sweet crypt]

Yknow if whatever Solgaleo and Lunala did to make Cosmog is how Pokemon make eggs

I completely understand how nobody knows how the fuck that happened

[supple basalt]

When you're a pokemon with Magician and all your stolen berries activate at the same time

[lavish dune]

https://tenor.com/view/overlord-bunny-triple-maximum-magic-gif-16656848

You mind taking a SS of the event timer for me? I'm doing something and I don't want to miss my chance for them

[lavish dune]

Thank you!

[supple basalt]

No prob

[supple basalt]

Wow I actually have not found a single shiny this run

Eat shit Eternatus

[lavish dune]

Eternatus is still beating my ass

I get him as far as halfway into his last bar then he spams dynamax canon

[odd mason]

whould eternatus be allowed in a team sky run

i just got a legendary egg

what can it give me

[lavish dune]

a legendary

[odd mason]

nice

and it has upped shiny chances

istg if it gives me shiny mewtwo im quitting

yall ever find a wild shiny but its your rivals

[lavish dune]

luckily no, i havent run into a trainer shin

y

[sweet crypt]

To specify, it is able to give every single Box Art Legendary (For Lunala and Solgaleo, it is given in the form of Cosmog), as well as Mewtwo, Calyrex and Terapagos

Well, and Arceus

Which does have a game named after it

But isn't in said game's box art

So technically it isn't a box art legendary

Also it doesn't give Suicune even if it is technically a box art legendary

To be more descriptive, it gives
Mewtwo
Ho-Oh
Lugia
Groudon
Kyogre
Rayquaza
Palkia
Dialga
Giratina
Arceus
Reshiram
Zekrom
Kyurem
Xerneas
Yveltal
Zygarde
Cosmog
Necrozma
Zacian
Zamazenta
Calyrex
Koraidon
Miraidon
And Terapagos

[supple basalt]

I just ran into a Toxapex shiny on a Skull grunt lol

[supple basalt]

It can also give Regigigas

[sweet crypt]

I forgot because Regigigas is hot garbage

Mb

[lavish dune]

https://tenor.com/view/regigigas-pokemon-regigigas-smack-down-pokemon-smack-down-regigigas-uses-smack-down-gif-14418782494658030194

[supple basalt]

Yeah it is

[sweet crypt]

It is actually decent if you have the HA

But like

That's a fucking HA

[supple basalt]

Imagine my absolute disappointment when Miraidon was the banner pokemon and I got a fucking regigigas

[sweet crypt]

And most people don't even know Regigigas has one in Pokerogue

It certainly doesn't in the main games

Also why the fuck is every single Arceus form listed as a starter now

On the balance changes document

Don't tell me you can actually start with those now

[supple basalt]

Honestly

I just

am mad about the to-be Magician nerf

._.

[sweet crypt]

There's gonna be a Magician nerf?

[supple basalt]

Yeah the server was talking about it yesterday

[sweet crypt]

I need to check the Pokerogue server more often

But what makes doing so annoying is that I'm stupid enough to be on the server on an alt

And having multiple accounts in the server isn't allowed

So I need to swap accounts every time I want to check

Realistically I should just yknow

Leave on my alt and join on my main

[supple basalt]

Join on your main acc?

XD

[sweet crypt]

But I can't be bothered to

[supple basalt]

Wait why do you have an alt discord

._.

[sweet crypt]

I'm honestly not entirely sure

[supple basalt]

😂 Valid

[sweet crypt]

It is even older than this account too

And was originally the main

I just swapped over for uhh

Some unknown reason

Sometimes I look back at stuff I did in the past

And wonder

"Hey why did I do that anyways"

[supple basalt]

I get that

[sweet crypt]

Actually, I do think I remember why I'm only on my alt in the Pokerogue server

There was some drama about the person who made Pokerogue

[supple basalt]

Oh?

[sweet crypt]

(Which tbh was kinda stupid since they already left the development team for unrelated reasons a few days prior)

And the admins were doing horribly at actually yknow

Not having the server implode

[supple basalt]

It's the human want to create drama ig

[sweet crypt]

I left during that time

Joined back on an alt because idk it'd feel weird to join back on a main after that event

It was pretty crazy

Like I think the creator was like religious or some shit and had some very stereotypical religious views that could be seen as problematic

So people took that

And made it look like the creator was actively slandering people due to his views

(He wasn't)

That's the situation summarised very briefly

Because going in depth would probably get my ass BANNED from this server, it was pretty messy

Anyways gonna do the Gen 3 run later lol

[odd mason]

i have my first 5 shinies were

[lavish dune]

ouch

-# ive been fighting this eternatus for a cumulative 2 hours i think

LEMME WIN

[terse pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/standing-here-i-realize-gif-24728653

[lavish dune]

PRETTY MUCH

none of my pokemon have the bulk to fight it straight up except araquanid

[odd mason]

i hate mightyeana

[lavish dune]

of all things

how come?

i reached E-max with this

https://tenor.com/view/drstrange-one-onemore-avengers-endgame-gif-14454957

[sweet crypt]

I don't see anything about a Magician nerf strangely

[sweet crypt]

Do you still have Tera?

[lavish dune]

indeed i do

[sweet crypt]

What egg moves on Fini?

[lavish dune]

wild

used to be a palpitoad

[sweet crypt]

Unfortunate

You could still use Tera on it, and it should survive a fair few hits

[lavish dune]

its tera fairy

[sweet crypt]

Oh

Well then that's unfortunate

I mean Fini still survives like a singular unboosted Sludge Bomb

But yeah no Bibarel being overleveled really sucks

[lavish dune]

bibarel is also tera fairy, which is kinda fucking me.

[sweet crypt]

I would've thought Simple Bibarel would solo but yeah not when it's overleveled

[lavish dune]

how come?

[sweet crypt]

There's this little gimmick where Dmax Cannon and Eternabeam have their damage boosted if you are overleveled

Which Tera Fairy can help with tbf, though it makes you weak to Poison

[lavish dune]

oh fuckin

thats why marowack keeps dying

[sweet crypt]

That's why you never see me overlevel

Well unless it's on a Fairy type

Fairy types can safely overlevel as they are immune to those 2 moves

[lavish dune]

this etern moveset is odd

flamethrower, canon, sludge bomb and cross poison

skarmory never got any utilty until now, its moveset is ASS

[sweet crypt]

It actually changes between phases

In Phase 1, it is Eternabeam Flamethrower SBomb and Cosmic Power

In Phase 2, it is Dmax Cannon, Flamethrower, Cross Poison and a singular use of Recover

[lavish dune]

i dont have enough defensive setup

bibarel hits hard, but etern almost always insta nabs the multi lens

[sweet crypt]

It rarely ever uses Recover thankfully

I ACTUALLY GOT A TOXIC ORB FOR ZANGOOSE???

Holy shit

Unheard of

I actually get to use Zangoose

Isn't that wild?

[lavish dune]

this run might not be a win for me

all the way to 200 to fully burn out

[supple basalt]

Happens to me all the time TT

[sweet crypt]

I just got HA Varoom

Lmao

Welp

It's a HA

I suppose

[supple basalt]

Is its HA worse than its normal abilities

Like with Dachbund

[sweet crypt]

Varoom's HA is Slow Start

Thankfully, on Revavroom, it becomes Filter

[lavish dune]

https://tenor.com/view/ive-got-an-idea-junkrat-over-watch-video-game-gif-17492139

[sweet crypt]

But uhh

Slow Start lmfao

[supple basalt]

Wow

Why

[lavish dune]

whats my hidden abilty? check engine light

[supple basalt]

At least Dachsbun's HA can see very minimal use (Though nobody in their right mind will not take the immunity to fire I feel like...)

[sweet crypt]

Yippee!

[supple basalt]

Nice!

[sweet crypt]

It is a very slow engine

[supple basalt]

Ig so lmao

[sweet crypt]

Can I talk about how unfortunate Sticky Webs is btw

Like yeah it really helps slower Pokemon outspeed and nuke faster ones

But like

What are the 2 most relevant Pokemon in the game?

Mega Rayquaza, who is immune to Webs, and Eternatus, who is a single opponent and thus does not care

[lavish dune]

https://tenor.com/view/glass-joe-punch-out-glassjoe-celebration-gif-15530170464453203845

[supple basalt]

Araquanid was in my first actual Eternatus kill team

[lavish dune]

he cant do dick to it

[supple basalt]

It is so good

[supple basalt]

It actually helped a lot. And back then I wasn't abusing eternabeam recharge to win

XD

[sweet crypt]

Sometimes having a Pokemon for Eternatus to attack and make 0 progress against really helps

[lavish dune]

nah i mean emax cant do jack. araquanid cant do much to it but thats also just not its job

[supple basalt]

That too

[sweet crypt]

And also with Tinted Lens Araquanid kinda chunks everything after a Swords Dance or a few

[supple basalt]

Over half the time I've at least gotten to his second phase, I switch in a non-fairy type who can't do that much for an Eternabeam bait to then go back to the good mon and nuke a bar or two off during the recharge

[lavish dune]

marowack a menance tho, i got soft sand, thick club, and tera ground. each bonemerang took out a full hp segmant against max

burning bulwark came in INCREDIBLY clutch

[supple basalt]

Obstruct came in clutch on a run I caught a G.Linoone because it was green

Luxray was able to para it on my last win which I actually got decent RNG

[odd mason]

where does araquanid spawn

[supple basalt]

Even better RNG, Eternatus slurped up every item Meow had EXCEPT her two Wide Lens needed for Taxel to be viable XD

[lavish dune]

this gonna be a LOT of eggs

[lavish dune]

just lake i think

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-gif-8049906864422965904

[odd mason]

ill take some

i want more eggs

to spend all on the shiny gacha

[lavish dune]

thats where theyre goin

currently i got 5 epics and a manaphy

[sweet crypt]

I am one Salamencite away from a win ngl

Even without it I think I win

[lavish dune]

oh BABY THATS WAVE 3

if i dont get a t3 shiny from... 105 eggs its rigged

[sweet crypt]

Joever

[odd mason]

salamander

[sweet crypt]

Rock Head Aerilate Double-Edge goes crazy

[odd mason]

salamance existing is so funny to me

[lavish dune]

https://tenor.com/view/bender-futurama-neat-wow-gif-5744318

[sweet crypt]

OHKOd Rayquaza with D-Edge to flex

I should try to do the same vs the Mega

[odd mason]

should machoke be allowed on my team sky run

[sweet crypt]

Last I checked Machoke cannot fly

[odd mason]

yes but yes

[odd mason]

no

dont skip

skipping is for the weak

[lavish dune]

https://tenor.com/view/old-boomer-history-84years-many-years-ago-gif-18534104

one t2 so far

[odd mason]

why are you blue

[sweet crypt]

The Dojo was quite literally me clicking Double-Edge a lot

No Dragon Dances

No other Pokemon

Just a Mega Salamence

Spamming Aerilate Rock Head D-Edges

[lavish dune]

that was the only thing of note

[sweet crypt]

Even for Maxie's physically bulky team I just clicked Ddance twice and then won

[lavish dune]

also charmander has aeroblast now

[sweet crypt]

OHKO Sweep

[odd mason]

YES I SKIPPED CLEMONT

my first pikachu

ive never caught a pikachu in this game

i hate electric types

[lavish dune]

why?

[sweet crypt]

Eternatus is DEAD

Gen 3 run is done

I was planning to use Tera on Sheddy but as it turns out the devs are not idiots and blocked that

[odd mason]

im running team sky

[lavish dune]

fair nuff

[lavish dune]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-gif-love-gif-23878715

"youre having fun wrong"

[odd mason]

although my ace is gliscor

ground flying

[sweet crypt]

Nah they're completely justified

Tera Sheddy would be so stupid tbh

Time for a Giratina Solo

[odd mason]

i just got a second costume pikachu

[sweet crypt]

Holy jackpot

[odd mason]

gliscor learning crabhammer will never not be funny to me

i just crit caught a boss that i lowkey just didnt want to fight

[sweet crypt]

Shiny Fomantis and Arbok

Yippee

[odd mason]

gliscor is lowkey good for team sky runs

[lavish dune]

good luck wiht drasna

[sweet crypt]

I'm doing a Gen 4 only run

(Random Pokemon picked)

So I will always get the Gen 4 E4

Even if I got Drasna, she'd get smoked

[odd mason]

and ive died

MANAPHY EGG

does the manaphy egg only give you manaphy

[lavish dune]

or phione

more likely phione

[odd mason]

ok

the legendary egg irratates me

how many waves does one completion take

[sweet crypt]

100 waves to hatch the legendary egg

[odd mason]

no like the whole classic mode

wave 7 gliscor

[sweet crypt]

200

[odd mason]

dang