But Mewtwo, in specific circumstances, can
#other-pokemon-games
supple basalt
Egg hatcing?
sweet crypt
No yeah probably
But I genuinely do not remember hatching a Red Shiny Lapras
Anyways I'm bringing Sprigatito so that I can steal everything in the known universe
Meowstic for Sleep Support seems nice
And now my only options are Purrloin and Skitty
I'm gonna run Normalize V-Creat on Skitty it'll be funny
I could get Tera Ghost on someone and Normalise Entrainment the final boss with it
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Is Normalize Skitty;'s HA or passive
sweet crypt
Ability
Not Hidden, apparently
Anyways, I just realised that Liepard's passive is Pickup
We are so back
Got a Moon Stone for Skitty
Yippee
supple basalt
Yay!
sweet crypt
Sappy Seed on Lileep, you love to see i- wait a minute
Lileep's a fucking rare egg mon?
supple basalt
Dedenne has pickup which is interesting but I love free stuff
supple basalt
I would consider all fossils rare
sweet crypt
DELCATTY CAN LEARN HURRICANE???
I mean I should've seen this coming
It's an early gen Normal type
BUT STILL
supple basalt
SINCE WHEN LOL
sweet crypt
Wait it can't? Then who on my team could???
hollow rock
about damn time i got it
haven't touched the ground my entire carrier yet somehow im still quad weak to it
sweet crypt
Wait does Mewtwo get Hurricane?
I dunno man
I ain't using non STAB hurricane
It doesn't matter
supple basalt
Too inaccurate to care unless it's STAB
sweet crypt
Crazy that 2 types have their best special STAB as a 70% accurate move
supple basalt
Love to see it :P
sweet crypt
Aura Sphere does not do the damage you want it to
I never get the rolls I actually need with it
It's also not well distributed
supple basalt
I don't think I ever keep aura sphere on my movesets
sweet crypt
Amazing Wide Lens luck, I already have 2 on 45
And 2 is all I need for Taxel
Oh neat Mewtwo gets Aura Sphere by level up
I'll take it
Like I said earlier it tends to miss rolls
But like I ain't using fucking Confusion anyways
Oh come on
Mew egg but no Shell Smash
Iron Thorns egg but no.. I think that's Bolt Strike?
Iron Moth egg but no Quiver Dance
PLEASE GIVE ME QUIVER DANCE ALREADY GAME
supple basalt
What's a Lock Capsule again
sweet crypt
What's a Lock Capsule again
Allows you to lock your rolls in place
Or rather, their rarities
Anyways using Meows for mid game while its stats still suffice
supple basalt
Oh okay
sweet crypt
I am stealing every item under the sun
supple basalt
Using a lot of greninja and meowscarada. Though I felt bad for Incineroar and got him his HA
supple basalt
I am stealing every item under the sun
Same lmao
sweet crypt
I am just computing that I got the Aether Foundation
This
Is HORRIBLE
Mewtwo cannot ever beat NDW
supple basalt
Big rip
sweet crypt
And I'm not too confident on Meows OHKOing something as bulky as a Necrozma Dawn Wings through both Shadow Shield and Prism Armour
And I am not betting high odds on it surviving
supple basalt
Probably not but have it kill as much as possible... and steal something and a different kibby can finish it
Raihan buddy this is the second time I've seen you in the same game. Go away lol
sweet crypt
Just swept the breeder with Delcatty
Delcatty is the GOAT
I found my 6th member chat
unkempt egret
nice nice
supple basalt
FULL CAT TEAM LET'S GOOOO
sweet crypt
The perfect run to get it
sweet crypt
Alright bet
supple basalt
Do I add camerupt to the team? I technically already have a fire type
supple basalt
Alright bet
If any of your cats turn into dogs XD
sweet crypt
No fucking shot I just got hit by the Illusion Uxie
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DAMN
sweet crypt
Chien-Pao murdered it, and Zekrom too
Already earning its place on the team
I forgot about the 95 rival lol
Biggest threat was Dragapult landing the Dragon Rush flinch on Meows
But it missed the 2nd one that would've KOd so I slaughtered it
supple basalt
Oh I got the
Paldea DLC E4
So I'll be fighting Kieran for the first time
...Does he have Ogrepon, Terapagos, or both?
sweet crypt
Terapagos
Used to have Ogerpon but it got removed
Stole some Black Glasses from Faba
And I think it allowed me to OHKO Lusamine's Nihilego
1 wave after
Gaming
supple basalt
Used to have Ogerpon but it got removed
Ahh okay. Mildly less scary then
sweet crypt
Mewtwo is currently Mega X
Because it gets more bulk, and I want to narrow the pool for Y
I also get STAB on Aura Sphere I guess
I really want to catch this and use a Reveal Glass on it
Hmm...
Nah, too much trouble
supple basalt
Defeated Kieran
Only Dedenne lived
sweet crypt
It is time for Lusamine 2
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Good luckj
sweet crypt
Managed to use Tera to circumvent Astral Barrage
That's Lusamine down
As a note, I play on very magnified speed
Which is why I progress quick
Alright, Strongest Trainer Clay is beaten
And he gave me a Mewtwonite Y
Murder time
Level 188 and I already have over 1k SpA
With barely any items to boost SpA
This is a stat most Pokemon need tons of vitamins to even get close to
So far this has been a very uneventful E4
Worst that has happened is I got hit by a Sucker Punch for slightly less than half my HP
Can Lance change anything?
It was a one shot sweep with Photon Geyser
Time for Rival 195
sweet crypt
Stats going into the Rival fight
About as one sided as you would expect
Yeah uhh this also can OHKO Emax
Unironically my luckiest Mewtwo run
The previous times I tried to run Mewtwo I just either got the wrong Mega for my attacking stat I'm trying to run or I don't get a Mega at all
I'd also steal this idea but Zacian is too free
supple basalt
Valid lol
sweet crypt
Theft
Oblivion Wing on Swoobat, Espeed on Purugly, Blue Shiny Spinarak
Gaming
Mighty Cleave on Anorith, neat
Team Magma
Uhh
Am I cooked?
Sun weakens Greninja so it isn't reliable
Then I have 3 Ground weak mons and 1 Fire weak mon
Damn it I got PUP on Marshadow instead of Taxel
Regular shiny Scolipede
Yippee!
Random ass blue shiny Forretress
I guess there is an event going on isn't there?
Beautiful
unkempt egret
D E E R F O R C E
terse pollen
How many fucking egg vouchers do you have
And how did you get three legendary eggs before you ran out of space for eggs
supple basalt
Cool shiny
sweet crypt
Why did Tabitha just attack me at 164 hello?
supple basalt
I have so many vouchers
lavish dune
ivy is still so terrifying
after many tries, moth is the ONLY survivor of that battle
terse pollen
For real? I thought you were overprepared tbh
supple basalt
lavish dune
For real? I thought you were overprepared tbh
emboar, dragonite, dondozo
sweet crypt
Maxie could've been scary if he didn't try to use focus punch on Groudon
lavish dune
That's unfortunate
my team is mostly water, and fire fighting is incredibly hard to deal with with my team. why did emboar have WAVE CRASH??
togam, unsurprisingly, is still ass
supple basalt
Where did I get Zorua candies I've only hatched like two
sweet crypt
my team is mostly water, and fire fighting is incredibly hard to deal with with ...
Egg move
supple basalt
And had enough fucking candies to unlock Adaptability
lavish dune
shinies give extra candies
supple basalt
OHH
lavish dune
when i hatched my iron moth t3, i got 40
supple basalt
PFFT
supple basalt
When I get home I'll start another run on my computer where my hands don't struggle trying to play pokerouge on a tiny screen
terse pollen
kieran got hands
sweet crypt
Ok, that's done
And I am not excited for what's next
So basically, here's the gist
I have 0 fucking clue how to beat Eternatus
Managed to sweep Rival with Megagross
I may or may not
Have severely underestimated Megagross
Bro took like 1/10th of its HP from Flamethrower what the FUCK
Like I'm sorry I expected the Super Effective 90 BP hit from the Pokemon with 145 SpA to do actual damage
terse pollen
How the hell are your pokemon eating flamethrower so easily
sweet crypt
How the hell are your pokemon eating flamethrower so easily
I have no fucking clue???
Metagross should've been like 3HKOd at best
I was genuinely worried that I'd just lose
But Metagross instead 1v1d Eternatus
terse pollen
hes him
sweet crypt
Helps that in Phase 2 Eternatus kinda just
Gave up
And started spamming Cross Poison and Dmax Cannon on Metagross instead of Flamethrower
But that's just a normal Eternatus thing
If it isn't using Cross Poison on Steels it isn't Eternatus
But yeah no I think bro like
Mb that's not allowed
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Finn tryinna steal my cat. I must show him whos cat is superior
(Fire lashes the shit out of it)
lavish dune
HES BACK
whats the chances of the same UB twice in the same run?
oh thank god
it got up to +4 attack
terse pollen
That's worrisome
supple basalt
I forgot Zorua doesn't have a fantastic special movepool (Ignore chain and moon those are egg moves)
This is gonna be pain if I don't get the dark pulse TM
YOU ARE A SPECIAL ATTACKER WHAT ARE YOU DOING
Fire shiny tho
That's a pull
terse pollen
Walking Wake is pretty cool
supple basalt
Tis' indeed
lavish dune
i need to find something to handle that emboar SOON
is there a 175 ivy fight? i cant remember
lavish dune
ITS THE MEAN GREEN FIGHTIN MACHINE
lavish dune
After 145 there's only one in 195
thank ya
ooooh im thinking about the team leader aint i
terse pollen
I think the team leader is 165
lavish dune
sheeeesh
lavish dune
im so fucked'
this is what i have left for maxie
way to go lunatone hot damn
i havent won but this is still funny
oh my god dude you SUCK
terse pollen
Lunagoat
terse pollen
Kill him
lavish dune
drasna is SUCH a pain
sweet crypt
I thought Magic Bounce bounced ALL status moves?
It's not like bouncing Trick would change anything
smoky gyro
I know but still
Weird
Another victim to the firefly
Annnnnnd another one lmao
People are like its just a volbeat whats it gonna do to me
Jokes on you
sweet crypt
That fuckass firefly I hate
RandBats really making the most random of Pokemon into war criminals
smoky gyro
Like you have your Whims and Sableye which everyone knows has prankster encore already
And then theres the fireflies
supple basalt
Now that Zoroark has Night Daze things do be lookin up for it. I just had Saturn switch out when they didn't like what they saw and I just nasty plotted in their face and SWEPT them XD
Ooo shiny Vikavolt
shut osprey
hey guys, might be an odd question and if I'm not allowed to here then feel free to redirect me, looking to try a ROM hack which has up to gen 9 (and if new Z-A megas that'd be cool), maybe new forms, but can be played on a GBA, any suggestions?
sweet crypt
hey guys, might be an odd question and if I'm not allowed to here then feel free...
There is no romhack that would've implemented the Z-A Megas in like 1 week
shut osprey
I did say "that'd be cool" but didn't expect it lol
the main thing is up to gen 9 and can be played on GBA
sweet crypt
I did say "that'd be cool" but didn't expect it lol
Fair, fair
sweet crypt
the main thing is up to gen 9 and can be played on GBA
Elite Redux does fit into that description, but I'm not 100% sure what their obtainability status is in it
And Elite Redux is also extremely chaotic for more reasons than just roster
If you revel in chaos, good!
You probably won't mind
shut osprey
yeah it's more of a difficulty mod, I've already got it on my GBA
looking for a normal-ish experience
sweet crypt
I can't really think of anything that qualifies both "normal experience" and "up to gen 9" weirdly enough
shut osprey
yeah that's the difficulty I'm having lol
sweet crypt
Most of the romhacks and fangames I know that go up to Gen 9 are quite difficult
timid crypt
Finished emerald with some unpopular pokemon
sweet crypt
Finished emerald with some unpopular pokemon
Who contributed the most?
supple basalt
I hope it was Masquarain because it's good for no reason
unkempt egret
nice team nice team
I think Shiftry got some good work when I did that swaplocke two years ago
which that run was silly since the idea was I was doing two serperate runs of Fire Red and Emerald but every time I beat a gym, both sides had to swap their active pokemon parties
kinda wanna do that for Plat and HG/SS now actually
let me see if I can find the teams I had in that run
timid crypt
Who contributed the most?
I would have to say swalot
unkempt egret
my bad it was ruby (blue is FR, pink is ruby)
timid crypt
some of those fights in the elite 4 would have been much harder if it didnt have toxic
unkempt egret
100% forgot FRLG wigglytuff was only on route 3 at like a 10% chance rofl, I think it's actually more common in ruby!
timid crypt
I hope it was Masquarain because it's good for no reason
It carried the team through the first 2 gym badges but after that it kinda got really useless for a while because it just doesnt learn any good moves by level up in gen 3
unkempt egret
out of those 12 pokemon I think it was shiftry that got the most use from ping-ponging as a grass type to a dark type whenever needed
timid crypt
but after i got ice beam and giga drain tm it became good again
unkempt egret
(helps that they were in the party for both sabrina and tate/liza)
timid crypt
nice team nice team
Thanks!
supple basalt
Doesn't it learn Q Dance by levelup?
sweet crypt
Doesn't it learn Q Dance by levelup?
That's a Gen 5 move
timid crypt
I think Shiftry got some good work when I did that swaplocke two years ago
shiftry is a legit good mon
unkempt egret
not in gen 3 lol
sweet crypt
I know that because Volcarona's the GOAT
supple basalt
That's a Gen 5 move
Oh
timid crypt
its in the team mostly due to a inside joke
unkempt egret
yea it's an earlygame mon but it's a nice mon
shoutouts to volbeat for actually getting to do stuff in a region where psychic types weren't also rock typed
supple basalt
its in the team mostly due to a inside joke
Oh yeah shiftry is very good also just don't put it in front of a bug move
timid crypt
my bad it was ruby (blue is FR, pink is ruby)
i respect you for using volbeat
i did not have the guts to use it on my team
unkempt egret
gen 3 volbeat's actually pretty alright since signal beam's physical and it's one of the rare decent bug move users outside of heracross and a group of silver wind users
(shame it falls off a cliff in gen 4 and doesn't really recover until gen 9)
supple basalt
I made the worst decision imaginable. I replaced Alolan Raichu with Spectrier. Who has no psychic moves and cannot learn Psychic naturally
It's actually the worst pokemon on my team
sweet crypt
It's actually the worst pokemon on my team
That doesn't seem right
Unless your team really sucks against like
Uhhhh
Idk Fighting or something
supple basalt
It dies the easiest and while it has Grim Neigh and Shadow Ball is nice, it isn't nearly as useful as Alolan Raichu was
I put it on my team THINKING I COULD MUSHROOM MEMORY PSYCHIC
sweet crypt
I mean, these stats are... uhh
supple basalt
Though I am also used to Shadow Rider
sweet crypt
Quite strong
supple basalt
I just want a move that isn't shadow ball
sweet crypt
I just want a move that isn't shadow ball
Fair
supple basalt
Maybe I can teach it Haze for Eternatus
Yo shiny Samurott :0
Honestly the main reason I sacked Raichu was I didn't wanna sack Vikavolt
terse pollen
Quite strong
Least min-maxed gen 8 pokemon
sweet crypt
Least min-maxed gen 8 pokemon
Tbf it wasn't that bad in Gen 8
supple basalt
Cyrus gave me a free sp atk increase.
Do ya'll think someone could benefit from DNA splicers?
sweet crypt
Idk lol
I dont think so?
But if you don't have Fused Endless unlocked
Then just fuse 2 random mfs
supple basalt
I have never used splicers at all lol.
sweet crypt
Preferably ones that don't matter
supple basalt
Uhhh...
Maybe another run I got rid of the randos that don't matter lmao
How tf is Flotzal faster than my cat and horse
Base 115 speed
Vs base 123 jolly for the cat and base 130 timid for the horse
Unless Wave Crash has priority?
sweet crypt
Swift Swim?
supple basalt
Maybe? Idk
sweet crypt
Floatzel's usually in the Sea
And the Sea is usually Raining
Swift Swim is Floatzel's only base ability
supple basalt
Oh probably is I didn't realize it got SS
Kinda wish it would have rolled its HA since I have the ability charm XD
sweet crypt
In fact Swift Swim one of Floatzel's most defining aspects
In early SV, people were arguing on who was better between Floatzel and Barraskewda before they realised they were being silly and Skewda was better
supple basalt
It's really irritating me that my items keep showing as invisible
sweet crypt
But it is still the 2nd best Swift Swimmer in SV when it comes to Swift Swimming
supple basalt
Who's the 1st?
rugged comet
feesh
supple basalt
Really?
sweet crypt
Skewda is the best Swift Swimmer, yes
Was the best in Gen 8, too
And I'd be surprised if it wasn't the best Swift Swimmer in Gen 10... unless Mega Swampert's there
sweet crypt
252+ SpA Choice Specs Magikarp Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-Therian in Rain: 384-452 (100.5 - 118.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Now as you can see
Magikarp can OHKO Lando-T
So obviously
This means it is Ubers worthy
supple basalt
Ahh this sucks I've got the Alola E4 again
sweet crypt
I'm gonna be real the main Feesh I think of when seeing Feesh is Ubers Feesh: Offensive Wallbreaker
sleek steppe
You'll just have to look around
I have for the past 5 hours it’s the last pokemon i need for charm
sweet crypt
I can’t get enough coins for the gimigoul evolution
Look for ruins and big fucking towers they tend to have gimmighoul chests in them
sleek steppe
Is it 60 defeats it takes for best odds in outbreaks ?
supple basalt
Sticky webs really is a menace.
sweet crypt
Is it 60 defeats it takes for best odds in outbreaks ?
I forgor
storm stratus
Guys any website to downalds Pokémon game?
supple basalt
What game
supple basalt
You can find Roms and ROMHacks just by googling
rugged comet
Pokemon roms
?tag rule6
ebon pondBOT
Make sure to follow the #rules!
Rule 6 DISALLOWED CONTENT: Resources to illegal content (ROMs, pirated movies, etc). We are sure that there are ways and means of finding these that do not involve a Pokémon Fan Game discord server.
supple basalt
Shoulda tagged that instead of just saying use google lol
Best part of Alola E4 is poor Acerola boutta get obliterated lol
unkempt egret
ok just did the math on the Soul Silver/Platinum swap meet idea
counting fully evolved mons, there are about 132 lines unique to either SoulSilver or Platinum and 107 lines that are in either both games or neither game, 139 if counting banned pokemon (IE: legendaries, pseudo-legendaries and events)
there are four special cases (Raikou, Entei, Azelf, and Mesprit) where I am allowing them but only if they are holding an Iron Ball to cut their speed since I'm starting to experiment with that idea for some of the legendaries that rely on their speed
there are also 5 lines that are pokewalker exclusive (Delcatty, Sharpedo, Wailord, Castform, and Kecleon) that I'm also counting as being usable in SoulSilver so I'll see what I do with them
supple basalt
Alr just 4 more paradoxes and Eternatus to go. Will I win? Prolly not
unkempt egret
gonna finish up this pokerogue run before I start looking over further ideas for this run
oh hi wave 170 katy
supple basalt
Gonna say no since what I want to do isn't possible when the poison dragon outspeeds even my fastest mons
sweet crypt
If you force feed the horse at least 1 Carbos it should outspeed Eternatus
unkempt egret
one thing I've found is that if you're using stat-dropping moves, see if you can try to bait it into using eternabeam on something else to give you a free turn to drop its stats
sweet crypt
Since they do both have 130 Speed
Stat dropping moves are nice vs Eternatus I've heard
But just using Confide + Double Team sounds...
unkempt egret
yea stat dropping moves really make the dream work since they carry over between phases
supple basalt
If you force feed the horse at least 1 Carbos it should outspeed Eternatus
I didn't get any after I got it
It was already level 150 and I got no more Carbos after it
unkempt egret
it generally is lol but I don't usually have confide show up, usually it's mud slap/sand attack
sweet crypt
I know Solo Pokemon runs usually rely on Double Team and Confide to win
But I hate evasion
You will never see me use a move that raises my evasion
Because it's cheap
unkempt egret
yea even when I'm doing a carry the idea of soloing the thing is really only if the carry is that turbo-strong
sweet crypt
And doesn't make me feel like I earned anything at all
unkempt egret
that I can just rip right through it even with items getting stolen
otherwise that's when the backups get to shine
sweet crypt
Alright, so if I get a decent Tera on Xerneas, do you think I can solo Etern?
unkempt egret
maybe?
sweet crypt
The moveset I'm planning is Geomancy + Moonblast + Stored Power + Strength Sap
unkempt egret
maybe tera steel since you can insulate yourself against flamethrower with geomancy
sweet crypt
I'll probably use EP for most of the game up until Eternatus
unkempt egret
but anything that resists poison would also work
sweet crypt
The best Tera for Etern IMO is either Rock or Psychic
supple basalt
I don't have anything that resists poison
sweet crypt
Rock is better defensively while Psychic is better offensively
unkempt egret
oh speaking of which earlier
supple basalt
That actually outspeeds
unkempt egret
there's a special confide TM just for me
sweet crypt
Pokerogue is like the one time that Psychic types are actually cool
supple basalt
Inceneroar is the only thing it doesn't insta kill and he dies in two sludge bombs
sweet crypt
Specifically only for Eternatus though apart from that they're the same old Psychic types as per normal
Ofc some Psychic types are just GOATs even if they have the Psychic type
So in scenarios where Psychic is actually good they become monsters
unkempt egret
on the off hand being a bug, grass, or fighting type past wave 190 does feel awful with how much of an uphill battle you're fighting if you lack a good secondary type
sweet crypt
on the off hand being a bug, grass, or fighting type past wave 190 does feel _aw...
Idk I haven't had issues with being a Fighting Type past 190
Mainly because the Fighting types I tend to use are kinda fucking cracked
Like Marshadow or Mega Lucario
unkempt egret
I can see that
since if they don't have a good secondary type they usually get good coverage moves that help them carry
sweet crypt
But yeah the Paradoxes aren't the most friendly to those types
supple basalt
Love Mega Lucario
I'm not really using mythicals/legendaries because I don't wanna grind for their candies
Idc how cracked they are
sweet crypt
Actually is Marshadow the best Fighting Type in Pokerogue?
I think it's better than Lucario
But is it better than Zama?
unkempt egret
I wouldn't doubt it since you can use special thief to swipe stat boosts
supple basalt
Yeah but you have to upgrade it for it to git gud
sweet crypt
I'm not sure personally
supple basalt
Therefore my better fighting type is Lucario with Mind's Eye unlocked
sweet crypt
Oh
Wait
I'm an idiot
Koraidon's a Fighting Type lmfao
I've also heard the Gmax Urshifus have crazy stats
But that needs RNG to actually get even after starting the run
Which is cringe
supple basalt
So what you're saying is the best fighting types are legendaries I don't have the patience to grind candies for XD
sweet crypt
So what you're saying is the best fighting types are legendaries I don't have th...
Yup!
Dw though Lucario is high up there
supple basalt
Lucario it is then
sweet crypt
Tbh I'd go as far as to say it is the best Fighting Type non Legendary
supple basalt
Even though I've already beat Eternatus with it I might try Lucario again
unkempt egret
geeta not being rude af challenge impossible
heckin just stole three of my furfrou's items while I was setting up
supple basalt
"When I lose against Eternatus I'll use my shiny Lucario"
Wins against Eternatus
"Well fuck"
unkempt egret
whatever none of em were the soothe bell get furfrou'ed
sweet crypt
Hey actually why are the Fighting Type Megas so stacked
supple basalt
I only have -atk buneary so I haven't used them
Wait
Hold on
mega Lopunny is fighting?
sweet crypt
We also have Megas ||Barbaracle, Chesnaught and, mostly for its egg moves, Emboar coming|| (ZA Spoilers)
sweet crypt
Used to have Multi-Attack, but it now has Espeed
And honestly? Multi-Attack was kinda better???
Sure it doesn't have stupid priority
But Mega Lop is very fast
And Multi-Attack is 120 BP
Compared to Espeed's 80
unkempt egret
yea furf has multi-attack as its rare egg move and I'm like "???"
I guess it's since Body Press ignores both fur coat and fluffy so they didn't know what else to give it there
supple basalt
Oh I got T Axel, Thundurus Kick and E Speed unlocked in its egg moves...
Do I have a better nature
sweet crypt
Multi-Attack is honestly kinda crazy I was one shotting so much shit with it on Gumshoos of all things
Honestly even with Espeed, Mega Lop's still cracked
The only issue with using Mega Lop is that you need to use Base Lop
supple basalt
At some point in my life I hatched a Jolly Buneary. Bet lemme try and use it
sweet crypt
Tbh, that can be said with a lot of Megas
Even Rayquaza to an extent
Rayquaza is nowhere near 9 cost quality without the Mega
And with the Mega I'd only say it's average for the 9 costs
Imo Mega Ray is one of the most overrated mons in Pokerogue
Fitting since it's also pretty overrated normally
It isn't the strongest mon of all time anymore
supple basalt
I forgot to give Buneary its moves lol
sweet crypt
You could arguably say it stopped being that in Gen 8
sweet crypt
I forgot to give Buneary its moves lol
Time to restart the run!
supple basalt
Luckily I was only on floor 2
sweet crypt
(I did this with a Sprigatito run earlier after clearing Cache lmao)
supple basalt
Frustration is also nice
sweet crypt
"we do a little trolling"
Bro's gonna spam Cross Poison instead of either Flamethrower or Dmax Cannon I'm calling it
supple basalt
and then he lived on like 1HP
I can never get Illusion to work
unkempt egret
Bro's gonna spam Cross Poison instead of either Flamethrower or Dmax Cannon I'm ...
he did indeeed spam cross poison but his special attack was at like -5 so I can't exactly blame him
sweet crypt
he did indeeed spam cross poison but his special attack was at like -5 so I can'...
Oh
supple basalt
It always shows as Zorua
sweet crypt
Tbh even then Dmax Cannon probably hit Avalugg harder
supple basalt
Idk how to get it to work
sweet crypt
It always shows as Zorua
You need to not have it in your last party slot
unkempt egret
(confide heracross got Serene Grace'ed in the process)
sweet crypt
... Oh right
unkempt egret
lol
unkempt egret
oops I didn't notice the legendary gacha was cosmog that's one of the ones I still need heck
sweet crypt
Even when I don't have a full team Illusion doesn't proc
You may be on an old version, or it may be a visual glitch on your end
supple basalt
How can it be on an old version? It's a website
unkempt egret
yea if it's still (P) or (N) then you have an older version
sweet crypt
How can it be on an old version? It's a website
I dunno
supple basalt
....
sweet crypt
Clear your cache I guess
supple basalt
How the heck do you "Update" if it's a website
I did the other day cause ChickenSmoothie was being a bitch
XD
sweet crypt
I found out that my Zacian pretending to be a Dragapult was because I didn't clear my cache
And updates kinda goofed stuff up
supple basalt
Do I need to clear my cookies for it to work?
Cause I don't want it to sign me out of everything
sweet crypt
I dunno lmao
supple basalt
On a browser that's connected to all four of my devices
sweet crypt
It might, but I think you should look for other potential causes first
supple basalt
I deleted my image cache the other day because of ChickenSmoothie (Newly dressed up pets don't show right if you don't lol)
So it's not that
sweet crypt
Have you made sure you're using the correct website?
supple basalt
supple basalt
Btw I've been wondering what the N and P have meant lol
AHH I have to clear the cookies
(Casually turns off sync to clear my cookies)
AHH
F'ING GAME WHY DID YOU FORGET MY SETTINGS I DON'T NEED THE TUTORIAL
No didn't fix
Smh
sweet crypt
Thet redisabled Illusion?
Damn
I've just been assuming Illusion is still implemented
supple basalt
Pfft
sweet crypt
I'll admit I don't use Zoroark so I've just been assuming that it was implemented, since last I checked it was
I wonder why?
sweet crypt
Might've been some bug or something idk
supple basalt
Yeah they're saying it's disabled because it's too buggy
You actually
Are also up to date
Lmao that's funny
sweet crypt
What
OK so why is it broken for base but not for Hisuian that's so weird
Wait
I think I know
Hisuian Zoroark can't spawn in the wild
supple basalt
Wait how do you get it
sweet crypt
And I've seen posts of Illusion glitching out on wild Pokemon
supple basalt
OHHH
sweet crypt
So this would be an issue for base Zoroark but not for Hisuian
supple basalt
Ngl I
sweet crypt
Wait how do you get it
Eggs
sweet crypt
They can appear in The Abyss iirc
supple basalt
Buneary gets happy a lot faster than riolu
sweet crypt
Fuck yes I just bought a Slush Rush Alolan Sandshrew we're gaming
I just registered I'm fighting Rose on a Xerneas run
I am in AGONY
I HAVE 0 MOVES THAT HIT IT FOR NEUTRAL
desert coral
it was an agonizing amount of f2p pulls but I FINALLY got this dactyl
sweet crypt
I have managed to click Strength Sap on 3 Competitive mons in a row
I may be an idiot
supple basalt
Got Team Aqua for the first time. Not looking forward to Kyogre...
sweet crypt
Finally, Moonblast
A move with more than -1 PP and 20% accuracy
I am getting a lot of candy jars
If I keep getting this many I may try overlevelling Xern instead of using Tera
Rose just let me get to +6?
Well, that's Rose 1 done
Why hello there
I caught it in a single Rogue Ball 💀
Free candy I guess
Fun fact: Follow Me causes Xerneas to literally be stuck spamming Geomancy forever
Bug free game
I got a heart attack upon seeing a Boss Kartana
Thankfully, it has nonexistent SpD so I one shot it
Why is the expert bug trainer using Poison Sting 💀
Rose 2
Ok so I managed to set up on Archaludon without Tera
And then I used Tera Psychic Stored Power to OHKO Gmax Copperajah
Holy damage
Ngl if Rose just swapped Copperajah in I probably would've had to use Lucario instead
Well
I could've just
Terad first actually
But you get what I mean
Alright, Cynthia vs a very angry deer of life
Make your bets
Ok yeah no that was quick
To absolutely nobody's surprise
Xerneas is extremely broken
The only mons that ever pose issues are SE physical attackers
And even then you can get past them with Strength Sap
And just to confirm, Xerneas can set up on and beat Eternatus to +6 without Tera
But
I want to see if I can get the OHKO with Tera Psychic Stored Power
It definitely can
RIP bozo
The only problem with Xerneas is that there's no Power Herb and even then you can chain multiple Geomancies anyways
I'd say it's honestly a good candidate to be raised to a 9 cost
To probably very few people's surprises
Because realistically even without Strength Sap or Stored Power or Earth Power or all of that it's still doing the same shit
Geomancy into Moonblast spam
It'd have worked for all the other bosses I beat, it'd have just been slightly less efficient
Anyways I have ran out of run ideas because all the mons I want to do runs with aren't fully unlocked and I am frankly too lazy to candy grind with them
sturdy sparrow
Is giving an emboar max hp better than splitting defs ev’s?
sweet crypt
Is giving an emboar max hp better than splitting defs ev’s?
I generally prefer giving Pokemon HP EVs over Defence EVs
Though for a Pokemon like Emboar, I could see Defence and SpD EVs working out
EVs are a flat stat increase
And Emboar's HP is great
So the flat stat increase isn't as impactful
However, Emboar's defences are poor
Making the increases more impactful there
That said, you usually only see this on extreme scenarios
Like Blissey, who invests in max Defence and SpD
Y'know, miss 255 HP herself
supple basalt
This battle was the definition of "Just click the A button"
unkempt egret
hmmm
piplup is Classically Terrible in sinnoh's endgame I'm tempted to take it then pass it onto johto around gym 7 or so
the problem is that while it does great against clair, the issue is that if I use it on her then it goes back to sinnoh where it's back to being harassed by every ground and fire type
unkempt egret
gonna allow myself the pokeradar to increase diversity in plat which adds... 8 new mons, technically 7 since Shedinja's banned in my ruleset
...oh
not even a wynaut rofl
still herald
what are the other games called
lavish dune
thats a vague question
mario galaxy
dark souls 2
helldivers
overwatch
team fortress 2
thats every game
lavish dune
most of us are playing pokerogue but that guy is playing platinum probably
unkempt egret
most of us are playing pokerogue but that guy is playing platinum probably
can confirm I was playing platinum with that screenshot
also nice koraidon. nature ain't the best though.
shame it's something like an 8 or a 9 cost though otherwise I'd say lug it through a few runs and see if you can get an adamant/jolly/impish/careful mint to show up
lavish dune
shame it's something like an 8 or a 9 cost though otherwise I'd say lug it throu...
im more annoyed about the non-shiny dupe legend from my third legendary egg
unkempt egret
oh
lyric radish
im happy with my endless run so far 8 legend/ultra beasts by floor 285 no shinies tho and i started w non shiny ray and ogre so im at lowest luck hoping that halloween even will change that soon tho
still got no fusion tho couse i want to fuse ray with masqurain to get Qdance then fuse Mray with Pogre
sweet crypt
I'm looking at Gen 9 OU
And genuinely?
Iron Boulder would be better if it were Rock/Bug
With 0 other changes
This Psychic Type does it 0 favours
The best you can say is like
Hits Fighting for SE
Since you already have EQ for Poison that isn't doing much less because Zen Headbutt is a pathetic move
And at a far more reliable rate
But then you gain a Dark weakness, which sucks ass when Kingambit is around
lyric radish
i would rather want figthing/rock but that not gona happen cuz terrakion
sweet crypt
And a Ground weakness, where you're about to get murdered by the ground types
Compared to Bug at least
Compared to base Rock that Ground weakness is still there
But Psychic doesn't help with it while Bug actually does
Psychic also gives you a Ghost weakness
So I guess it's time to get nuked by Specs Dragapult Shadow Ball now
sweet crypt
Also weak to Bug now even if First Impression is only on 1 Pokemon
Well, 1 relevant Pokemon
lyric radish
sweet crypt
Genuinely pure Rock may be better than Rock/Psychic on Iron Boulder
lyric radish
hell yeah
sweet crypt
I remember when unfusing a Pokemon completely halved its stats due to a glitch
That was a crazy glitch
lyric radish
yeah
Fusing 2 S tier pokemons with 3 diffrent type AOE moves that dont hit teamate and THE best stat boost move will go wild
sweet crypt
Fusing 2 S tier pokemons with 3 diffrent type AOE moves that dont hit teamate an...
Ngl I feel like Mega Ray in Pokerogue is only like
A tier
A+ maybe
sweet crypt
Idk comparing it to the other 9 costs I just feel like it's a bit too average for base Rayquaza being so aggressively mid even for 8 cost standards
I never find myself doing enough damage for the most important thresholds without setting up
And while it usually can set up
It struggles to do so more than the majority of 8 costs
lyric radish
shus now dont hate on ray
sweet crypt
Idk I feel like Ray's very overrated
lyric radish
I never find myself doing enough damage for the most important thresholds withou...
i beat 250 eturnatus no problem and that was without setting up
sweet crypt
In Classic at least
sweet crypt
i beat 250 eturnatus no problem and that was without setting up
Did bro not have a Dragon move or some shit
lyric radish
i dont use him in classic im rather going for new medals xd
lyric radish
Did bro not have a Dragon move or some shit
he did but i survived
he used eternamax thingy move
lyric radish
mega
sweet crypt
Because Base Ray is the one I have problems with really
lyric radish
i survived due to focus band tho but point still stands!
sweet crypt
i survived due to focus band tho but point still stands!
Oh
lyric radish
i survived!
sweet crypt
Well then no it doesn't stand
lyric radish
XD
trust
i mean no matter pogre would have finished him i almost onetapped eturnatus w ray
sweet crypt
I was like "yeah that's odd I've done Rayquaza runs before and it just gets instantly evaporated by Eternatus so I just use Fini for that instead"
But yeah from personal experience I'd rather have any other 9 cost over Rayquaza sadly
I just don't think base Rayquaza puts in enough work to be worth
At least in comparison to other 9 costs
Idk maybe except Groudon
That maybe I'd rather run Rayquaza over idk
lyric radish
base ray sucks but it gets good when it mega and you should have mega by 195 in classic or 250 in endless if you focus it
sweet crypt
base ray sucks but it gets good when it mega and you should have mega by 195 in ...
If I'm getting it by fucking 195 the game's already almost over
Iirc, in my runs, I didn't get it at all on one run even while gambling my life savings like crazy, on another run I got it at like the 130-150 area and one I got it at
Like
14
lyric radish
before 195 it wont even be neccesarry in my opinion
sweet crypt
before 195 it wont even be neccesarry in my opinion
I definitely found its damage lacking before 195
Even with all that Attack/SpA
lyric radish
i just swept the entire world on my ray run and i got mega on 197 but i had difrent mons to deal with 195
sweet crypt
If I'm not one shotting literally everything or tanking its hits absurdly well I'm not using an S tier Pokemon
Or even high A
All of the High A or S tier Pokemon will either one shot every single Pokemon or have amazing bulk
And the high S tiers typically will be able to both tank hits and dish out absurd damage
Which is why I don't think base Rayquaza is a high A tier
I do think maybe Mega Ray could be high S but I'd lean more towards mid S
But that may just be base Rayquaza being extremely disappointing for all the hype
The way people describe this mf you'd expect it to be some crazy S tier monster even before Mega Evolving
But just like normal Pokemon, it's like
Good
But nowhere near that peak
lyric radish
trust its just you not using him rigth 😎
sweet crypt
trust its just you not using him rigth 😎
Surely clueless
But yeah no I'm not a massive fan of base Rayquaza
Mega Ray's cool though
Just not very worth it
lyric radish
i mean ray is the legendary egg now :D
sweet crypt
It's similar to how I view Lunala, except Rayquaza is infinitely more worth than Cosmog
lyric radish
ive hatched like 50 eggs w no shiny D:
sweet crypt
Lunala could probably solo the game without any egg moves or passives tbh
If it wasn't for the fact you also have to use Cosmog, that is
Even Dark types can be beaten with Shadow Shield, Tera and Moonblast
The most problematic Pokemon would be like, Kingambit
Which you'll probably want a Tera for that can resist its STABs
lyric radish
legendary nr 9
sweet crypt
legendary nr 9
Kitty :)
lyric radish
uhm kitti > long snake
since ray is the first pokemon and not second im still 4x weak to ice
sweet crypt
I do honestly like Chien-Pao more than Mega Ray in terms of design
lyric radish
and it outspeeds
sweet crypt
That said I am not delusional both Rays are better than Chien-Pao in Pokerogue
Chien-Pao actually has a similar issue to base Ray for me
You want to set up
But like
Where tf do you set up
Chien-Pao needs setup less since it does more damage with Sword of Ruin
But it also is a LOT frailer
lyric radish
just realized my ice weakness...
sweet crypt
So you can barely set up as easily
sweet crypt
just realized my ice weakness...
Registeel solos trust
lyric radish
he got the moves to solo XD
sweet crypt
Chien-Pao definitely won't Sacred Sword it into oblivion
Oh yeah I see that Black Belt it definitely does have Sacred Sword
lyric radish
XD
sweet crypt
Things seem like they could be better for you
Nah dw it'll Sacred Sword Kyogre instead
lyric radish
i used freezy shot + heavy slam on wyrdeer chien-pao used icicle spear on registeel and i got chien-pao on my first ultra ball :D
sweet crypt
Frfr
sweet crypt
i used freezy shot + heavy slam on wyrdeer chien-pao used icicle spear on regist...
Oh
That works too
Recently did a run with Xerneas
It was so strong that I believe that even without Egg Moves or Tera, it could solo the entire game
Without using Confide or Double Team or any of those moves, I mean
And of course I do runs with all egg moves and the passive
So it was a slaughter
Ngl, easily soloing the game without any upgrades sounds like 9 cost material to me
Just saying
If Xerneas gets increased to a 9 cost, just know that I called it
lyric radish
If Xerneas gets increased to a 9 cost, just know that I called it
nah just know its your fault
do we want water/flying or dragon/water type?
the abbilities match perfectly
water/flying gets delta stream and dragon/water gets whatever pogre's abbility is im stupid and forgot
both have modest nature so that dont matter
i think ray got a bit better ivs
but not that big dif
after further consideration and furtehr ghosting by latios i think dragon/water is the better typing so im going for it xd
he looks... i mean kinda good ig?
thats juicy tho
lyric radish
why did a fking ribombi 0 carbos outspeed me
i have 5 carbos
it wasent a boss eitehr
Anotha one
smoky gyro
FUCK ME
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Also I forgot thats how truant worked
You still loaf even if you cant move
delicate hollow
Pigeot sucks in fire red and leaf green and especially heart gold and soul silver
Sorry is it pigeot or pidgeot?
sweet crypt
Tbf the first 2 gens of early bird are kinda just absurdly mid
And then Gens 5 and 7 as well
At least in terms of battle
sweet crypt
notcowl atleast gets an ok hidden ability
I wouldn't say Tinted Lens is just OK
It's a very strong ability, but the issue is that it's Noctowl
broken temple
ig so
sweet crypt
The only ability that could really save Noctowl is like
Wonder Guard
Because holy shit I didn't realise how terrible these stats are
I guess maybe Huge Power could maybe like bring it to uhhh
Idk NU or something
Maybe NUBL
Idk
broken temple
you said huge power and i just imagined noctowl losing the wings and getting huge muscles instead
sweet crypt
Nevermind bro does not have any good physical moves
It's Noctover
Just give bro an evolution or something idk
sweet crypt
Manifesting Ghost/Flying Noctowl evolution for Gen 10
Does anyone even agree on who the early bird of Paldea is?
I see some say it's Squawkabilly and others say it's Kilowattrel
Unironically Squawkabilly is stronger than all of Base Pidgeot, Noctowl, Unfezant and Toucannon
broken temple
doesnt it have like base 100 attack or smtn?
i never used it so idk the stat spread
sweet crypt
Mid stats, but better than all previously mentioned birds
Also has pretty sick abilities (Sheer Force on 2 forms, Guts on the other 2, including this one)
Well, there's another early bird
This mf
And if we consider Flamigo Paldea's early bird, then it's one of the best
It'd only be worse than Talonflame and Corviknight
(And Mega Pidgeot too probably)
In fact, I didn't realise this, but the same could be said for Kilowattrel as well
Though the gap between it and Staraptor is a lot smaller than Flamigo and Staraptor
In fact the gap between it and Staraptor is the same as the gap between it and Flamigo
unkempt egret
late but gen 1 basically has a Bird Ladder rofl
farfetch'd -> Pidgeot -> Fearow -> Dodrio
brisk hedge
Which is weird, considering you can get the preevolutions for Pidgeot and Fearow before Farfetch’d
And your Spearow might be a Fearow when you get to that trade
unkempt egret
farfetch'd very much just exists as a practical joke on the player rofl
gen 1 has a lot of that between abra, early magikarp, and voltorb/electrode
blazing panther
whats that game were you are team rocket
terse pollen
firered rocket edition?
terse pollen
Why did nobody tell me Pokerogue was having a bonus shiny event
sweet crypt
Why did nobody tell me Pokerogue was having a bonus shiny event
I mean it is every Halloween
terse pollen
I wasn't playing last halloween
sweet crypt
Fair enough
If it's a public holiday, it may be in your best interests to check if Pokerogue is having a Shiny UP event
terse pollen
I'll try to remember
This is pretty sweet
Do you know if the shiny up event affects egg gacha?
sweet crypt
Do you know if the shiny up event affects egg gacha?
Not in this event I think
But sometimes it will
terse pollen
Regional forms only
sweet crypt
Alright while I work on that run, here's an unfinished ranking of Pokemon as Classic Carries! I've only ranked Pokemon that I am fully confident in doing so. Feel free to share your opinions!
The tiers are not ordered btw
unkempt egret
was that event for october 31st only I take it
sweet crypt
was that event for october 31st only I take it
It's still ongoing so no
Are you playing on the web version or...
unkempt egret
offline, let me check if offline can get it
(I did not play since the 30th rofl)
gonna download latest files for offline and back up my save first
also since I'm no longer bound by Sonic Crossworlds I can probably finish up that shield normal type run I had on the backburner since september
then start on the scarlet lodgelocke
op yup there we go that did it
of course it's that splash too rofl
night parrot
sweet crypt
Insert bacon joke here
terse pollen
I always thought it looked like an uncooked steak
lavish dune
I'm gonna end up starting like 8 pokerogue runs just before the end of the event to farm them shinies with what I can
I will then proceed to lose them all before wave 150
quick trench
What are some good Pokemon fan games guys?
terse pollen
pif is pretty cool
rugged comet
What are some good Pokemon fan games guys?
Rejuvenation
terse pollen
folks this is huge
supple basalt
If you like dark, edge, competitive pokemon, and chaos. Insurgence
terse pollen
What are some good Pokemon fan games guys?
pokemon odyssey is also pretty cool if you like more exploration and double battles
simple quartz
If you want more experimental fangames there's This Gym of Mine
lavish dune
folks this is huge
brib
terse pollen
yes
lavish dune
not to mention
lavish dune
imma try for maximum shinies and legends this run
lavish dune
But it's not like it has a way to hit crits better
except triple arrows having an increased crit rate
terse pollen
imma try for maximum shinies and legends this run
Woah nice
I'm trying to get a shiny legend too but haven't run into any legends yet
terse pollen
fr
lavish dune
burmy unironically catching bodies in the early game tho
firey dance and heal order is insurmountable for like 20 waves
lavish dune
I'm trying to get a shiny legend too but haven't run into any legends yet
make sure to stock up on lures, double the chance for boths
terse pollen
Oh that's smart
lavish dune
but beware of the event of having to choose
girl you just got your ass kicked by a burmy
oh shit i got the other version
is it just me or do epic eggs treat you better than legendary ones?
terse pollen
Just you I fear
unkempt egret
HECK
I gave up on getting vappy on wave 144 rip
whatever I guess I'm using espquerain
smoky gyro
Through multiscale too, jesus christ
unkempt egret
Eiscue moment
terse pollen
How is Eiscue so strong? It has a low attack stat
terse pollen
Oh that makes sense
Using the Ice Face to tank an attack while you set up belly drum then sweeping with increased speed
Now I understand
smoky gyro
Only physical hits though
Ice face doesnt work on special hits
So thats the best way to counter eiscue
elfin karma
that's such a scam
smoky gyro
Double specs is so stupid lmao
lyric radish
imma try for maximum shinies and legends this run
Yo i remember when you started i bullied you for having no shinies xd now look at you
11 legends 0 shinies
Holy IVs too bad i had most of them better already
lyric radish
32 eggs no shiny at all like tf this bs
sweet crypt
Through multiscale too, jesus christ
+6 SE STAB and bro doesn't OHKO L bozo
(Basically only a +2 because of Multiscale but shh)
sweet crypt
Bro has a level lead and still doesn't OHKO with all that, certified 80 Attack moment
sweet crypt
Thats the same as Azumarill right
Azu has 50, with Huge Power and max Attack EVs it's effectively 150
But with like, 84 EVs, which I think is the value for RandBats, idk
sweet crypt
that's such a scam
Do not kill it, wait to hatch a Flutter Mane first
Then you can catch it
Though I'm probably a bit late
In my defence I woke up like 30 minutes ago
lyric radish
In my defence I woke up like 30 minutes ago
excuses
smoky gyro
Bro should NOT have clicked Webs
I had no cleaners
Tbh
So if my teacup died I was kinda fucked
sweet crypt
Well, they very clearly had nothing to take Polteageist down after setting Webs
So they really should've tried to kill it ASAP instead of setting Webs
nimble coral
does anyone want to play scribbl
sweet crypt
Not really the channel to ask that
Anyways I made the team for the Regional Only run for Pokerogue yesterday, and I'm gonna be honest
I'm probably not getting this first try
Since I need to bring G-Articuno to stand a chance vs Eternatus, but it's quite expensive
Finally, Quiver Dance on Joltik
Only took 50 million years
unkempt egret
seems like pokerogue can't load on my phone rip
sweet crypt
So I was nearing Eternatus and had not gotten the Calm Mind TM for Articuno-G
Then, I noticed that Garticuno learnt Double Team by level up
I am taking a scummy win over a loss
So yeah uhhh I fucking Double Team cheesed the shit out of Etern lmao
Anyways a TM I did get was Swords Dance for Sneasler
And yeah no it kinda shredded shit up
But that's the run complete!