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But you're also wasting your time
Since Pdon and Pogre will reset the weather
And they heavily threaten Ttar with death
Grass and Electric aren't the most common types in Ubers, too
Like you have uhh
Miraidon that was the 4th most broken Pokemon and quickly sent to AG as well
Uhhh
That's
About it, actually
Aside from maybe Grass Knot as coverage on Caly-S
Maybe Tbolt as coverage on MMY?
So basically Tera Water requires you to have a status condition
Or you're cooked instantly
Ironically in vgc miraidon was quickly written off because it got hard countered by the grass monkey
Because there's 0 chance in hell it is running anything but Heavy-Duty Boots
I mean, doesn't Rillaboom kinda get cooked by like Overheat or Draco
It wasn’t until later on that the pieces of a perfect miraidon team had been made legal
So you just murder it
And then switch out or something
And get your terrain back later
And then it dominated
But yeah its Terrain is a big part of its threat though I can see that
Let me do some numbers
In Singles Miraidon just clicks Overheat or U-Turn and now your Rillaboom is either dead or looking directly at a Ho-Oh
But yeah Miraidon is actually far more broken in NatDex than Gen 9
Though it is certainly AG in both
In doubles it runs neither of them because those sets suck in doubles
That's because in NatDex, Miraidon will now hit you with a Devastating Drake in your face and utterly obliterate all "checks"
NatDex is wacky
There’s basically only one usable moveset
With Z Moves in the picture, Miraidon was considered an even greater threat than Mega Rayquaza
Which is dazzling gleam volt switch electro drift Draco
Though outside of NatDex I'd probably say it's the least threatening of the AG mons
Also I did some math even with choice specs it does not cook rillaboom
Huh
Either Rillaboom is bulkier than I give it credit or Rillaboom runs heavy bulk investment in VGC
Or like an Assault Vest or something
Rillaboom in vgc runs assault vest and bulk
Ah that makes sense
It could KO with Tera Fire overheat miraidon but that immediately makes you prime instakill territory for another top threat
Specs Draco OHKOs the average Rillaboom even outside of Eterrain in Singles
Rilla is usually running a more offensive set with Band in Singles
Though it is struggling heavily in the OU metagame due to the prominence of Grass resists
Rillaboom is not breaking Pecharunt for the next 1000 years
Rillaboom in VGC has a very defensive set
Nor will it have any hope ever getting past Moltres
In fact if it's too careless around Moltres it's just gonna get burnt by Flame Body
Not to mention that one of the 3 best Pokemon in OU is Dragonite
It’s crazy how the same pokemon is played entirely differently depending on if it’s doubles or singles
Unless it's like Caly-S or something
AFAIK Caly-S plays very similarly in both formats
What having no other options does to a pokemon
Corviknight, Glowking, Geezing, Torn-T, Zapdos
Rillaboom really hates the meta in OU
It's still probably the best Grass Starter in Singles, it's between it and Meowscarada
But yeah the main reason why rillaboom was considered a counter was because miraidon literally couldn’t afford to run tera fire overheat for a single weakness to a single pokemon
And it does have a niche
But it isn't OU proper, nor does it have viability that would suggest it should be
My favorite pokemon are OU by technicality
Like mega garchomp being OU by technicality because garchomp was OU and mega was UU
But you couldn’t use normal garchomp in UU
Mega Chomp is a sad Pokemon
Every other Mega considered to be not worth running due to being either not much better or as good as the base form have managed to beat the allegations
But Mega Chomp is still considered inferior to Garchomp
It does do stuff base Chomp can't I guess but it really doesn't compare to what Chomp does that its Mega cannot
It’s funny how some of the mons in Ubers are considered throw picks in vgc
Espathra as a random example is in Ubers but in VGC it has never even seen a top 20 apart from the one format where any mon that isn’t from paldea is banned along with all legendaries
I'm not too surprised Espathra struggles in VGC, since a major part of its threat is Tera and it is rather frail and probably pretty prone to getting double targeted, while its main STAB is a single target move
Basically, Speed Boost + Calm Mind + Stored Power will build up to obliterate anything that isn't a Dark type
And for Dark types, you run either Tera Fairy Dgleam or Tera Fighting Tera Blast
You can also run moves like Protect, Substitute or Roost to stall for more Speed Boost boosts
Yeah and setting up is basically unheard of in vgc unless you have enough bulk and speed to live more than one turn while being double targeted
It’s far better to lower your opponents stats than raise your own
That feels so weird since in Singles lowering opposing stats is generally not as good as raising your own
Unless you’re the dogs with metal or bicycles
In which case you raise your own for free
And in specifically the shield dogs case you always run it with iron defense and body press to one shot anything but ghost types
Really the only things you'd see that lower stats in Singles are like, Intimidate and Parting Shot, or moves that just have that secondary effect at a chance
Like Moonblast lowering SpA
I guess Defog too
But nobody is using Defog to lower evasion
It's to clear hazards
In VGC moves like icy wind and snarl are seen somewhat
Mainly icy wind because speed control is king
Don't you love how a Legendary had a signature move that is just Icy Wind but buffed in the most inconsequential way possible?
Gamefreak moment
They must really hate Kyurem because bro's signatures are Icy Wind 2, featuring an unnoticeable damage increase for a move that has low damage, and 2 fucking charge moves
Like a list of very obvious ones I could find are
Shaymin Sky, Zekrom, Rayquaza, Magearna, Kyurem-B and Deoxys Attack
I feel like that's primarily due to opportunity cost for all of these
Since they take a restricted slot
There's no format like VGC where you have 2 Ubers max or anything
You can use as many Ubers as you'd like
In Ubers
So you can run more than just the 2 best
Sometimes in VGC it’s only one restricted which can be considered its version of Ubers
So sometimes you’re locked into just one and if your teams cornerstone is shaymin sky then you probably did something wrong
Bro is folding to a single Fake Out
Which is not good in Singles
Wait
Not good in Doubles
Me when brain malfunction
Frail mons in general seem to struggle more in VGC than Singles
Unless your name is Fucker Mane
Flutter Mane my beloathed
Also tbf, most of these are also inconsequential in Ubers
They're just too strong for OU at the same time
Namely, Skymin, Zekrom and Mag
Rayquaza has historically been the weakest of the Gen 3 box art legendaries
With the exception of Mega Rayquaza
It’s funny how in SV zacian is now considered inferior to zamazenta
When in sword and shield zamazenta was seen as garbage
At the start of Gen 9, Rayquaza was considered better than Groudon
What stab body press does to a physically defensive pokemon
But after the meta shifts and especially the Miraidon ban, Groudon is once again considered better than Rayquaza
Though it isn't anywhere close to its former glory
Unfortunately the same can't be said for Singles
Zacian, while no longer broken, is still like a top 5 mon in Ubers
Zamazenta Crowned is Ubers, but utterly irrelevant
And Hero Zamazenta is OU
Zacian struggles in doubles now but excels in singles from what I’ve seen
One of the 2 Box Arts currently in OU by technicality, along base Kyurem
I say by technicality because Zama and Kyurem do not take these forms in their box arts
I found this for the latest tournaments usage rates
This is day 2 usage rates so the weaker teams / worse players have been culled
Wait Volcarona's good in VGC?
I'm gonna be honest I would've thought it's only good in Singles because it's physically frail and a setup sweeper
Tera actually pushed Volcarona over the edge this generation
Which makes for a very funny trend of Volcarona seemingly just saying "no" to powercreep and becoming stronger instead
Ikr?
Without Tera it's pretty much the same old Volcarona which is still a strong OU pick
Regieleki on the other hand?
Bro would be RU AT BEST without Tera
Regieleki was already at risk of falling to RU in Gen 8
It’s also not just that volcarona also has teammates now who can do a silly little “you don’t get to touch volcarona this turn anymore”
And the powercreep this gen is rather strong
So if Tera wasn't here I highly doubt Eleki would've clung on to UU
Regieleki was actually decent in VGC if I remember correctly.
It is yeah
Fell off in SV though
Eleki was like actually crazy in Gen 8 VGC
I know that much
Bro was directly nerfed via ability
It resurged for a little bit in specific regulation where it was by far one of the best speed control options
It was a great speed control option in gen 8 VGC.
Regidrago wasn't, so I need to ask why Gamefreak decided to nerf Zamazenta
It’s mainly cause it got nerfed to match zacian
They showed that they didn't need to nerf both members of the duo with Regidrago and Regieleki
But it was also thrown a bone
In the form of a single move
They also did nerf Cresselia and not Darkrai
Though this is probably the strangest duo in Pokemon
With one being a Legendary and the other being a Mythical
Why aren't both legendaries, or both mythicals?
Preferably the former
Because mythicals fucking suck in obtainability
Regieleki fell off so hard that it had one result and it included clefairy
Also they placed 445th out of 512
Bro woke up from the year 2022 and entered a tournament with their last used team
(Also included ogerpon wellspring as it was the newest favorite child)
Kyogre's probably the best Pokemon by sheer consistency in both Singles and Doubles I'd imagine
Yes it’s a popular restricted pick
I can't think of any non-Calyrex Pokemon that is as consistent as it in both formats
And Calyrex has only existed for 2 gens
Kyogre has existed for like 7
Also it’s even stronger in doubles because water spout hits both targets
I somehow highly doubt that
Considering Kyogre was often a Top 3 Pokemon in the generation
It's one of the reasons why Ferrothorn is always absolutely stellar in Ubers
When primal reversion was still a thing you could delete the opponents side of the field before they could act
I mean
That's just what Kyogre normally does
Absolutely fucking delete shit with Water Spout
Has been doing it since Gen 4
Yeah but in doubles helping hand exists
Even resistant bulky pokemon fell before it
And in Gen 3, quoting Smogon, "Kyogre is a bastard and incredibly hard to take down"
Sounds about right
Like there was a single pokemon that didn’t die instantly and it was ferrothorn
Bro was running Calm Mind 3 Attack, Calm Mind Resttalk, Water Spout and... Choice Band?
There was also another counter to primal kyogre though
It was a Primal Groudon that was slower than Primal Kyogre
Apparently it was ran because due to having no Specs, Blissey, Latios and Latias would hard counter it
So it ran Choice Band with HP Ghost and Brick Break
Peak
And of course primal groudon formed one of the core two of “The Big Six”
Pdon is a genuine issue for Pogre in Singles
Because Pdon will never not be slower than Pogre
I miss Gen 7 meta
So if you lead Pogre into Pdon, you're kinda cooked
Unironically the last time I bothered following the competitive scene
And ofc they can still both interrupt each other's weathers
It's all downhill from there
Proof land > ocean
Though Groudon gains more from interrupting Primordial Sea than Kyogre does for interrupting Desolate Land
This post was made by team magma
Because Groudon's clicking Precipice Blades for its attacking move anyways
Yeah primal kyogre would usually spam a water move which would get cancelled while groudon spammed ground which wouldn’t be cancelled
I've heard Gen 8 OU is pretty nice, albeit slow
Gen 9 OU is a clusterfuck though I agree
I would kill to have the dedication and the activity of the RBY community be transplanted for USUM metas pleaasseeee god
If I play competitive nowadays I play RandBats, older gens, lower tiers or NatDex
Anything but Gen 9 OU
I really dislike Gen 9 OU
In VGC gen 9 is probably the healthiest competitive has been in a while
There's like 5 different war criminals in the tier
Strange, I usually hear the opposite
It depends on the regulation tbh
Regulation H was healthy for a little bit but then became cancer once sneasler was realized to be still legal
Like I hear so much bad shit about VGC that I've just been assuming that Gamefreak isn't even "balancing for VGC" or shit anymore they just aren't even balancing at all
I dont really mind games being unbalanced usually unless there's an official competitive format for it, which in that case I'd better hope that you're actually balancing your game
Depending on the regulation gen 9 vgc is a shitshow or lets niche strategies be viable and win
There is no inbetween
Because of the fact that I can't use the Eeveelutions because they're not great and making a team is difficult, I don't play competitive Pokemon.
Also I can say this without contest because gen 8 preceded that
And that is 5 years worth of competitive
If we expand to a decade that includes gen 6 and 7 which was gen 6 and 7
Gen 8 I found to be pretty poor since just repeat these for most high placements and throw in a yveltal or two once the calyrexes were released into the wild
Also I probably should’ve said this much earlier but when I say healthiest in a while I don’t mean it’s healthy it’s just not like inhaling carbon monoxide levels of unhealthy
Damn
so im making a team for clasic in pokerogue who do i try to catch? i have the following
- Miraidon (no passive and only rising voltadge egg move)
- BIDOOF
oh fuuuuu what do i use for AOE ive added the ghost/ground sandcastle guy im to stupid to remmeber the name of but do i use parabolic charge or discharce on miraidon???
well ive won
One of these days the description of this channel might as well be
"For discussion about anything related to PokéRogue (or other official Pokémon games and Pokémon fangames)"
yes please XD
i still hate how they dont have a specific pokerogue channel
why would we
anyhow this is by far the most toxic gardevoir that exists 💀
Lol when you replied it was 5 AM and I was asleep so I wasn't but I am today anytime unless someone tells me otherwise
So your including some shinies
Oh fuck
The 2 pictures merged and looked like a single one💔
I have one on my Violet Team!
Also its the same list just with the shiny forms...
I know 3d already dulls Drapion's shiny but somehow it seems even worse in the HOME sprite
My Favorite Shiny Is Trevent
Which is strange since it actually made the shinies for Garchomp, Gengar and Blaziken more obvious as shown in the 2 images
My favourite shiny in terms of just looking cool is Lunala
Dude i want that shiny so bad,
But I still prefer base Lunala
I'm A Gen 7 Baby
In terms of how much the colouration actually improves I have 0 clue what my favourite is
Since in like 80% of cases I prefer the base colouration over the shiny
Discord mosaic moment
I'm Currently Hunting Drapion In Arceus
?
a mosaic basically makes it look like images are combined
Ohhhh
Y'know, I'm not saying it's the most excellent writing ever, but, I kinda enjoy the themes they explore with both Legends games
where it seems like they both have an emphasis on confronting the struggles of humanity's relationship with Pokemon, be it rampaging Pokemon interfering with people's lives, or simply a cute Spheal or Litwick being a bit of a troublemaker
I'll be on in half an hour if you're available
Like, in most of the mainline games, society is practically a utopia where humanity seems to find a balance between nature and technological development, and rarely compromises the former in favor of the latter.
But then you have something like Z-A, where there's a bit of friction there, where Quasartico is literally fencing off city streets as 'wild zones', and people have to adapt to the fact that they gotta wake up in the morning and cope with wild Steelix outside of their door.
Sure, I'll make sure my switch is charged right now
Should also find it-
I forgot I'm currently rocking a blue team on Violet lol
Shiny cheeto, shiny giratina, shiny suicune, shiny umbreon, Walking Wake, and shiny Sylveon lol
Haha me too but apparently they’re pretty much like that IRL in France
Oh graphically? Yeah
That’s what I mean tho lol
They’re flat like that irl
They’re just built like that lol
But it could definitely be better
That aside the customization is tons of fun
But they're still more 3 dimensional than the flat supposed-to-be-3d meshes they use for buildings
It is graphically better then PLA though
PLA had an odd color scheme going on
But yes it could definitely be better
I liked it tho it made it feel more wild to me
That's true
The water graphics were terrible tho
I think it would have looked a lot better if they made the water look like actual water instead of like roblox
Oh absolutely 100%
I wish you could swim in ZA
I was actually really surprised you couldn’t
Probably because it actually looks decent and they didn’t want to make equally good looking swimming animations lol
Dawn/Lucas aren't smart enough to swim
Lol true
opinion on emboar
A good Mon that’s heavily overhated due to its typing
If emboar wasn’t the third fire/fighting starter in a row, it wouldn’t have had such a bad response
anyone got any good recommendations for another game after infinite fusion
That's one weird looking banana tree
The hate it gets is silly, it'd be like if Jirachi got hate for being the 3rd Psychic Type Mythical in a row (albeit not as extreme since it isn't the same dual type)
@rugged comet I can't find an install guide for Rejuvination. Is there one?
That's where I got the install but I was making sure there was no detailed guide or something
Okie dokie
Rejuvenation
shot bro
Not exactly full odds shiny since I used the shiny charm password but I lit almost did not catch this lol
Also the shiny rate is like 1/100 in rejuvenate
Still fun to see them
Question
And that one in 1/100 is still a pain for rare mons
Where the fuck is the berry emporium
East side of town, top left half of it
Looking at that sewaddle I shiny hunted and it took like a few hours since it's a rare mon at a certain time of day
This is all I can find and there's no way in
It's the building the fence is connected to
It happens
I regret nothing, the shiny is pretty
You're not too far from it
I'm still in town lol
Rip
Yeah, it's like that for a bit
Whatchu playing it looks cool
Pokemon Rejuvenation
Neat
anyone have recommendations for a fan pokemon game with either an emphasis on or really good mechanics for NON-SEXUAL breeding?
@sweet crypt sorry for pingin you but do you know if i need dragon assent to mega evolve ray in pokerogue?
I think so?
Rayquaza requires the Rayquazite Mega Stone to activate it's Mega Evolution, rather than using Dragon Ascent like in the mainline games.
apperently not
so ive wasted a move slot all this time
How can i install this app for ios?
pokerogue is browser game no need to install
just google it
Thanks
Can you name me at least 1 or 3 rom hacks/fan game last updated since 2 or 3 years ago that is lacking behind in terms of modern features and Pokemon variety etc?
pokerogue :D best rom/fan game ever :D
I probably would never not use Dragon Ascent on Rayquaza either ways tbh
I don't see a point in running a set that isn't Ddance
i run special and get Qdance w fusion
im planing to run Mrayquaza&Pogra fusion :D
talk about the devil the run after sending that text
Damn, Endless?
yeah
i had bearly enougt points i played a clasic run to get the 1 reduction on kyogre while i had 2 reduction on ray so then i could get them both in the start
Pretty
I didn't know you could get that before the first gym in that game.
Password ||eeveepls|| let's you pick eevee as a starter
For what?
And then it's just easy from there to get a friendship Evo like sylveon
Pokemon rejuvenation
Nice
I did not know that.
I'll keep that in mind.
I played Rejuvenation, but I quit playing because I had such a bad time before the first gym.
There are quite a few passwords you can activate to make it easier
Are any of them shiny?
Passwords are a way the player can customize their playing experience. This includes skipping parts of the game, QOL changes, and making the game more or less difficult. Players may input passwords at the start of the game, during the registration with Amanda, or by using a Data Drive at a PC.
↑ Specifically...
Yeah early shiny charm, but the shiny rate is about 1/93 normally anyways
I liked the combat mechanics in Rejuvenation, but I had several other issues that I had with it that the combat mechanics weren't going to keep me playing.
I Suck At Battling
-# no i don't i just suck at competeive
I Have A Deep Uncanny Knowledge For Pokemon
And just...Video Games.
I am pretty good at battling, but I had issues with how to progress in the story and some other things.
Like Gen 1 To 6
I also had to restart the game because I didn't know the save pop-up when you press the button to leave the game didn't work at all.
imo, gen 7 is the hardest normal gen outside of outliers like BDSP and B2/W2's challenge mode
dunno how rejuv would compare though since I haven't played it
Its Easy
also yea poni in base sm is a nasty level spike compared to where you just left
Theres Alotta Dialoge Though
Rejuvenation is definitely harder than official games
Black 2 and White 2 had a challenge mode?
yea the unlock requirements are turbo japanese coded tho
But again you can adjust the difficulty with the passwords and you can change the difficulty between easy and hard
basically someone else has to beat the game and transfer the key over so you can start with it on a new save file
I think it also has to be black 2 specifically that beats the game? since one of them unlocks a (very bugged) easy mode instead
I forget if easy mode actually changes anything since the levels are only displayed as lower with the stat changes not being applied
If it just increases the level of Pokemon, that is still really easy.
while challenge mode gives most bosses a new mon, some moveset tweaks, and held items in the endgame
I was saying this as a person who knows how to do Pokemon battles.
Okay, then that does make it more difficult.
I know focus sash haxorus is still in normal mode but the AI is dumb with the sash rofl
since iris will almost always heal it (and have it get OHKO'ed a second time) instead of letting the 1HP and +2/+2 haxorus sweep your team
I have never played gen 5 games, and I have heard they're good.
could be worth a shot sometime
also shoutouts to heckin shauntal's ||choice scarf chandelure|| that she gets in challenge mode
in B2/W2nuzlockes there's a reason why I find ||N's Zoroark|| to be outright mandatory going into the challenge mode E4 and that's one of em rofl
normal mode you can probably go without it
I have already heard the story of the game is the main reason I haven't played it.(On top of not having any way to play it without emulation)
I was actually planning on playing to the second gym, but all of the issues I had made me quit after the first gym.(Talking about Rejuvenation)
I had so many issues just getting to the first gym because of how easy it is to get lost. After like an hour and a half I finally got out of the damn first city lol
It was nice I got a Skrelp in the gym though
Where is this bitch
I'm in the lab but no blonde in sight
I think my biggest gripe with this game so far is the instructions in your quest book do not change when the quest updates
It's actually infuriating lol
I forget which part that is, is it after the gym?
After goldenwood forest
The vivillon thing
hang on let me go throug that part rq, memory is a little hazy and my most recent save is near there
the ||silent grove||?
specfically after the ||picnic thing||
Yes
She had said she wanted to battle, head up from you last saw her
I forgot what she told me to do as it was 4 AM so I wasn't paying full attention to dialogue and when I woke up this morning at noon the quest log says to go to the lab
yeah not sure why it says that
I'm so stupid omg
from what I remember when I needed to look at it, it was normally pretty accurate
The quest journal was throwing me off
Oh Melia's buneary is shiny lol
My current team. I would have had a shiny poochyena but Melia KO'd it
hm I haven't had them really attack shinies
Yeah I had to kill the non-shiny to catch the poochyena and her buneary KO'd the pooch next turn
I have found a few others when trying to get these mons
PFFT
Did you soft reset for the shiny sewaddle btw
Cause I got the one but I didn't think to soft reset lol
no
not so fun fact, Vera is from the game casino coin reward
shiny hunting it
I had accidentally soft reset when I first saw it out of habit
I tried like 6 times to soft reset for a shiny eevee. I gave up and went for a hidden ability instead lmao
Ngl I don't really like the shiny eevee
Planning on starting Rejuv soon, is HA guaranteed? I'm pretty sure it was guaranteed in Reborn, or at least rather common
Depending on how common it is it may change what starter I want to pick
some are nice like leafeon, others are
pretty common
I kinda like the sylveon and the leafeon
OK, so I can feel free to go for HAs on stuff
If you don't get HA on your starter you can soft reset for it (F12 just like PIF)
That narrows it down quite a bit
this will be topaz when he evolves
I'm thinking maybe I go for Libero Cinderace then
||Can the snag machine yoink all trainer pokemon or just shadow ones||
||just the shadow||
Damn
I just realized my Mightyena has Moxie
And is adamant
I didn't change its nature either lol
I remember I was keeping a close eye on Reborn's wiki to check what I get from them and how to complete some of them
I'll probably end up doing the same here
Because that got me a fucking Volcarona in Reborn
And it fucked shit up
And it was amazing
I love Volcarona
I'm too overleveled (Happens when you had a team of awful mons lol)
Minor issue though, HJK is an egg move
And egg move means breeding and breeding is annoying
Though you can actually get HJK pretty early it seems
But would I really toss away my starter for a great egg move?
Yes, actually
Yes I would
Like I've played Reborn, I know I'm gonna need to bring my A-game once I reach late game
And unlike last time, I can't just rely on Volcarona, since even back then I got it through sheer chance
And just like Reborn, you have one chance to get it early game, and if you don't, it's late game
Very late game
Looking at Rejuvenation's Crests, which are held items akin to Thick Club that give strong effects to specific Pokemon
Boltund's Crest for examples gives it Fishious Rend's effect but weaker on all its Biting moves
Which is hilarious
Doesn't Boltund already have Strong Jaw?
Does it?
yeah
I've never used it lol
Cinccino's crest turns all its moves into multi hit moves that deal 30% base damage per hit
yeah some are a little crazy
So you can either play it safe and run Skill Link for a guaranteed 1.5× damage boost or throw caution to the wind and run Technician like a true gambler
Darmanitan's Crest is literally just "Allows this Pokemon to use Zen Mode" lmfao
Delcatty has reverse Supreme Overlord this is so hilarious
ledian crest can make comet punch hit 20 times
Electrode practically doubles its Physical Attack by halving Physical Defence of opponents as it attacks
So basically, imagine if Azumarill was an Electric type with 150 Speed
Physical electric though
So it's probably ass
explosion
L bozo + ratio
Pre Gen 5 Explosion is probably the entire idea behind the crest
They turned Infernape into a Sentinel of Big Stall
Holy shit
Glory to Big Stall
It's a blueberry
Also Ledian now practically has slightly more than base 255 Attack with the crest
Rampardos 2: Bug edition
NOOOO
what happened?
I ACCIDENTLLY PRESSED F12 WHEN TRYING TO HIT BACKSPACE
It's joever
No but seriously it doesn't even sound that broken, hear me out
Ledian's speed is like
Giga mid
85 Speed
It's also very frail, like, 55/50/110
It can maybe take a weak neutral special hit
But it isn't tanking much else
And it's also Bug/Flying
And can't hold HDB
So it has effectively half the bulk with Stealth Rocks up and a bad type in general
Like it really is Rampardos 2
did you see the rampardos crest
Rampardos also hits harder when accounting for Choice Band
Oh no
Gonna be shiny hunting the blueberry again
Oh OK it isn't that terrible
I want it
It just basically erases 1 Pokemon from existence
And potentially takes down another
Not too much of a horror beyond comprehension
Holy shit they gave Zangoose Poison Heal
We are so back
combined with a lesser toxic orb
It's not like you're gonna be fighting Purify Pyukumuku
There's also an unobtainable Silvally Crest that doesn't need to be held for obvious reasons
Which increases STAB to 1.8× and gives an extra ability
And I mean like
also did you see 
Not the shiny I was looking for but I like it
the curse of male shiny combee
Truth XD I caught it anyway
252+ Atk Icicle Plate Gorilla Tactics Silvally-Ice Multi-Attack vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Corviknight: 217-256 (54.3 - 64.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
I want my blueberry back though >:(
I think I can see why
252+ Atk Luvdisc Liquidation vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Corviknight: 138-163 (34.5 - 40.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Fraud
SUPER EXTRA SPECIAL
Silvally low diffs this bum
draining kiss to heal a lot
now that is very rare
I've gotten four of those items
Idk though, it's Luvdisc
I've got one on Sylveon right now
true
You're probably getting OHKOd
Like
252+ SpA Luvdisc Surf vs. 252 HP / 248+ SpD Slowking-Galar: 151-178 (38.3 - 45.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
This is oddly balanced
It doesn't matter when all of your moves hit like an Explosion when you're a Luvdisc, apparently
zoroark can probably go silly
It could
also castform
They made Spiritomb good
Ngl I'm half considering waiting for the game to add Quaquaval
I'd really like to use like
Moxie Aqua Step Quaquaval
It sounds fun
there is still no date for v14, besides maybe early next year
Gym 15/16 out of 18 or something like that, right?
this is from the most recent dev update
I hate nyself so jm getting all shiny megas
yeah 15
still like 80+ hours of content
If the Chess Field is back, Rejuv is instantly peak
I fucking love the Chess Field it's so silly
They cooked with this
they have a notepad thing in the folder when you download you can open to see all the field stuff
and its a bit of a long one
what ya playing
pokemon rejuvenation
add to backlog,,
Loved Reborn, so I'm looking forward to Rejuv
As long as the difficulty remains in the same area I think I'll love Rejuvination, too
there are 2 options for difficulty and passwords can change them further
I think this is about the difficulty level I enjoy most in Pokemon games
Actually challenging, but not sink hours into attempts/planning challenging
and an ev training area + a trainer for exp in every major part
I'll definitely end up using the EV Training and EXP Passwords like I did last time
Grinding doesn't add to challenge
But it does add to tedium
Tedious =/= challenging
this one does scare me
Is there a way to change how time works? My game is syncing with my computer clock and it is REALLY making time sensitive quests annoying af
there is a password called unrealtime
I'm already in the game though
In the second town which has a lot of plot between lol
Ih nvm I found it in the options
ah yeah you put the password in, but it doesn't mention you need to turn it on in options
Ohhh
also new member
Yeah woulda been good to know XD
Oooo Shiny Munna pretty
I forgot where Zumi is lol. Oh well
Musharna is also pretty
It isss
Zumi is self aware lol I love it
What is this game?
Pokemon rejuvenation
Better shiny than the normal one
regirock
the curse follows me as well
such a nice item
Oh I think I have that too
But right now I'm spending half my playthrough being lost
yeah thats how I spent a lot of my first playthrough
I wish they made it more obvious where to go
what part are you on rn
Path to fighting Sensei. I got where I'm sposed to go. Honestly half of it is me getting distracted by misc quests
oh yeah its so easy to get side tracked by them
I'm stuck at the level cap lmao
yeah the level caps do keep you at cap for a while
At least I have a current string of shinies with these + Fletchinder
They are cute lol
forgot _ underlines so I can't quite get the faces all there
._. ._.
forget thats a thing
I barely survived that
But you survived!
I should have healed
really should have healed
1 hp 1 mon left
got to love that there is a fast travel before unlocking fly
also it says all of those are available, but you can only go to ones you have been to

what's that from?
pokemon rejuvenation
is it a roguelike or a normal game?
normal game
awesome
barely survived a rock tomb
This scientist turned my Frogadier into a Suicune. I hope I get the chance to change its nature
Very sad it didn't have the same nature as the Frogadier, which was +def/-atk
AYYYY!!!
Can you tell who my most used pokemon is-
I've secided Guzma's my favorite team leader in normal games but he can fuck off in Pokerouge
the demon of babylon will be unleashed upon balanced hackmons soon
wait I just realized u can mega without stone in balanced hackmons
hol on
I never saw this message until I decided to scroll up to here just now.
XD
I think it may have been better for me to see it sooner.
Half of my lostness is being distracted by quests
Legend of Zelda: Midna is dying, go see Zelda to save her
Link: Okay but like one second I think there's a poe over here
XD
I don't entirely want to do the quests on Rejuvenation if I ever decide to play it again.
I also would probably restart again if I played again.
I've decided whenever I have Team Skull as my evil team, I'm just going to start over =_=
I never have anything to counter him with
It'll save me time and effort
<3
Is that supposed to be similar to Eevee?
not sure?
also shroomish I think has an identity crisis in pokerogue rofl
3/4 of its egg moves are meant for technician but it's passive is meant for poison heal
Idk
Chimchar is worse since one of its egg moves is Thunderbolt. When it's a physical attacker
It can be used as a special attacker, but it is better when it is a physical attacker.
yea there's a few mons that just do that
mimikyu after being left too long in the oven
Toasty 💔
Does anyone know why you can't catch paradoxes? I found one as a boss in endless mode and just like the end of classic you can't catch it
You can only catch them if you already have them unlocked as a starter (hatched them from an egg)
I believe you can't catch the endless mode boss ones even if you have unlocked them as starters though
since they're mostly just checks to make sure you aren't catch-spamming through everything
Okay Endless is super difficult what the fuckkkk
Why do pokemon level so much slower
HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO WIN WITHOUT CATCH SPAMMING
Also you can lol
I've caught some bosses that were giving me issues. You need to get them lower than half
Paradox mons just are scripted to not be able to be caught it seems
oh yea for normal bosses you can catch them once you get to their final HP bar but yea the paradox bosses on the 50x waves just don't
what are people's thoughts on some of the new megas?
I personally am a huge Excadrill fan, but I don't really vibe with it's mega evolution. The drills just look so big and awkward
meanwhile Mega Hawlucha is kinda peak
#pokemon-winds-waves (but also, I quite like them overall)
thank you for the channel link
I like how WolfeyVGC has made a video discussing why Pokemon with 0 weaknesses are bad
As if they don't have THESE stats
The VGC man when he's talking about mons that are only mid in VGC
...which is probably still a step up than how they are in singles
also yea even in-game (ORAS) spiritomb was... bad
it's a get-out-of-wally's-mega-gallade free card and that's about all it's good for
OK but like
It's Sableye, Spiritomb and Eelektross
I don't think them being bad is exclusive to VGC lmao
Eelektross really got that Gen 3 stat spread
And Sableye got that Gen 2 stat spread
(AKA: 0 stats)
Spiritomb's stats are just sad
I don't have any funny analogy for it
No yeah that is true lol they're just badly spread out
Long complex quest to get it, and for what?
Just another dex entry.
unless you're in ORAS, then you get ||a jumpscare||
Is Meowstic just a good pokemon that everyone hates? I had the egg lady who gives you eggs and friendship if you win against her DESIGNED TO BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE MONS TEAM
Reflect + Psyshock got me through it. Since they're all specially defensive
I think I have a Fluttermane
I usually just slaughter it with Belly Drum Linoone ngl
And sometimes she even allows me to bring my Quiver Dance Tapu Fini
Yeah I have neither of those lol
I despise using belly drum anyway
This is my current team. I just got Prankster on the psychic cat also which is nice. With the training box thing
Game won't give me a fucking razor fang for Gligar =_=
yea that event picks the three mons on your team with the lowest friendship which are usually bad ones
Thankfully I've made a habit of bringing Linoone for Pickup
And it sweeps the event too
You aren't using Linoone outside of the event anyways
So you can just run a set specifically for the event
usually Araquanid for me
You just click Belly Drum then start spamming Espeed
Question. Does Golisopod get passive regenerator?
Because if it does that is the most disgusting thing on the face of the planet
E Exit makes it go back and Guzma sends it back out healed. Like what the hell??????
Yup
Devs were like "If Emergency Exit is gonna suck ass we may as well give Golisopod a passive that makes it suck slightly less ass"
You do
You just need candies to unlock it
Basically, Pokemon gain candies when you hatch, catch or gain friendship with them
And on the Starter Screen, you can spend these candies to decrease Cost, buy Eggs or unlock Passives
Wait how do you unlock it? Meowscarada has like 270 of them
Nvm
You said how
As I asked
Lol
rofl
Wow you were missing out on a lot of power
yea the main thing is that mons with higher costs gain candy slower, but also take less to unlock stuff
Meowscarada's passive is Magician, which now works whether or not you have an item
AKA: Meowscarada steals everything your opponent has ever loved with Triple Axel
And now has 50 million fucking items
Wow
yea magician goes from being a dump ability to turbo good
Is it good to grab Pickup
OOO
Turns into Magician when it evolves, and like I said with Taxel it steals basically everything the opponent ever had
my unlock order is always passive -> cost reductions -> rest into eggs
I believe those egg moves are Fire Lash, Parting Shot and Wicked Blow in that order
the main thing with the species eggs is that they have a really high chance of being shiny apparently?
I usually go Passive -> Cost Reduction 1 -> Eggs until I get all Egg Moves -> Cost Reduction 2
I haven't gotten one yet but it is a nice bonus after you've bought everything else
Depends on the passive and egg moves though
I can see that too yea
What does Reduce Cost do?
Of items?
yea so in meow's case that 3 cost goes down to a 2, then to a 1
And can be purchased twice
Of the Pokemon you're using
so you can take more mons into a game starting in
Meows goes from 4 to 3 to 2
oh meow's a 4 cost yea
so 2 at minimum
if it's at 1 to start with then it goes down to 0.5, then to 0.25.
I might just abandon my current run and see what else I can get
These have been my mains lol
It'd be funny if you could go to -1 cost
And get a free point for bringing a Pokemon
Not that you need it, once you have enough Cost Reductions on everything
I almost always manage to bring Tapu Fini, Linoone and Sableye on all my runs
And more often than not I can also bring another Pickup mon and a secondary carry
I'll wait till I can get more cost reductions
Meowscarada is always my main carry
5 cost at base, with insane bulk, immunity to Status via Misty Surge, Fairy Aura
You run QD/Earth Power/Moonblast/Recover and the entire game is at your mercy
And you still have so many points remaining
It's crazy how it isn't nerfed yet it's been like this for so long
I do have a Tapu Fini
It's like when Scizor had DiB
180 BP STAB with a roughly 50% chance to flinch on a Pokemon with Tinted Lens is very fair
Because yeah at that point in time Tinted Lens was Scizor's passive
Damn
SD+Bullet Punch+DiB=You win if you can set up a single Swords Dance
Any faster Fire type would get dropped by Bullet Punch and every slower Fire Type gets dropped by DiB
Imma try and get candies for Tapu. Maybe a better ability too. I don't have a scyther at the moment
Scizor was nerfed pretty hard
It's still plenty good
But it isn't "Easiest most braindead win of my life" good
That'd be Miraidon
Lmao
Or any Legendary with Calm Mind and Recover honestly
I was so sad I had a Miraidon chance and my egg I got from it hatched into Regigigas
I was so sad
The AI is way too stupid to use physical attackers vs you as you spam Calm Mind
So mons like Palkia, Dialga, Lugia, Terapagos, Reshiram instantly win
I don't remember if Suicune had Recover but I know it had Calm Mind
Even though Giratina and Ho-Oh don't boost bulk, they also instantly win for the same reason because they're so bulky at base that they can pull off the same shit
Giratina also has Shadow Shield as a passive
Lunala is capable of doing this without any egg moves or passives
But it does mean you need to use a Cosmog
I do have me a Giratina
And I think Calm Mind is a TM
I just havn't used any box arts
The Box Arts can be a bit hard to commit to at first if you don't have the correct egg moves on them
Because they're so damn expensive
Lemme go see what egg move I got on Gira
D Dance and Spectral Thief
Did not realize I hatched 2
I love that the legendary beats have Beast Boost as their passive lol. Unfortunately my Suicune has no egg moves
Some dude transformed my greninja into it then made me catch it-
So if I hit all 3 of my triple axels do I steal 3 items XD
Sweet
I opened the pack from the dev team and it was a real good one
2 fucking Mega Gyarados
"Holy Shit"
- Chandelure, probably
I didn’t get anything good from the dev packs 
I also got nothing good from the dev packs.
I actually haven't gotten anything good from packs for the past couple of weeks.
did anyone get higher then 3rd place for the hourglasses
"Delicious" ~Oricorio, probably
I didn't even notice the +24 amongst the many other hourglass rewards lol
I should probably get some teammates who don't just exist for safe switches ._.
Stole a Lucky Egg, Nice
not sure how I feel about the evo cost being "+350 candies" instead of finding a rarer item lol
at least there was a spotlight hour for it earlier in the week
rounds at 2489 but whatever
Anyone got pokemon shield? Looking to finish the dex
Lol the rewards gave me a body press TM and the next turn it gave me an Iron Defense one
I didn't use said Iron Defense TM because Garganacl already knew it but still found it funny
I didn't know there was a shuckle event
er, in pokerogue lol the cave juice one
I've done over half of the game's battles with the most diabolical cat ever lmao
I need an electric type to give that magnet to. She yoinked it from one of Volkner's mons
Sadly I can't pass Eternatus with the team but was more playing for the candies
Let’s goooooo
A God Pack!
Bang, get in there. Dub #4
Woah nice
I wish I had the Mega Lopunny, but hey, it still put in work.
It always sucks not getting the mega stone you want
I mean mega ampharos is cool but not getting a mega stone for another pokemon by round 200 is painful
It still worked out. Double Wide Lens meant I never had to worry about missing High Jump Kicks
@sweet crypt lmao
I didnt read too deep into it I just saw the title
But still funny
Extremely rare Japan W?
World's least surprising turn of events
Japan is always w
Weeb spotted
Does anyone have a fire ash for PC or a free good emulator to play the rom hack on? My gbarunner3 on my DSI is just not great
Please ping me or dm me if you do
Dont know if this counts, but I have been doing nonograms again recently. One dedicated person has been uploading the sprites as puzzles, and I thought I'd share since its really cool. Not many people know of nonograms, and its rare to find certain communities, so it really shows the commitment of some of the people in this discord
Wtf is that
A puzzle, it makes images and stuff at the end. The website/app is Nonograms Katana, you should check it out if youre interested, though it is confusing at first
Though it was a fan game with fakemon
No 😂
also known as "picross" in some places if that helps
Holy shit. Greninja just ice beamed Rayquaza out of existence. Like one shot skippedall three sections lol
Most Ice moves are capable of instantly obliterating 145 Rayquaza
If you don't have an ice type, tbh even a Fairy or Dragon or Rock move usually works
Valid. I've always triple axel'd him but since I now have Fire Lash I ditch Axel for Play Rough
With that said, Taxel is less viable for this than other strong Ice moves
Because you start with weak hits, which may allow Rayquaza to get a fuckton of Defence boosts
Yeah I almost always give a wide lens to Meowscarada. I actually only have Ice Beam on Greninja because RNG blessed me with the TM
Ash Greninja also happens to hit like a freight train
Yeah I got lucky in that Blaziken gave me the kill I needed XD
Let me guess: Rival greeded because they saw that Fighting was SE vs Greninja?
Yep! He doesn't realize he's the ONLY one that can tera. Funniest part is Water Shuriken did not one shot. He STAYED IN despite me CLEARLY being faster XD
Should I catch this...
If you don't have Axew, go ahead
And depending on your team, you may want to catch it anyways
Bellibolt's primary job has been tanky switch-in right now
I also note that Rivalry is utter garbage
So if you can, take a Mold Breaker Haxorus instead
Oh this one ain't mold breaker I'll K-O it
Gambling for a 50/50 on what gender your opponent is is NOT fun
(Meowscarada being a fucking menace stealing everyone's shit)
I have Lucky Eggs on over half my party members
Theft 👍
HELL YEAH
I usually use Meows as a secondary carry
Mainly because it doesn't deal enough damage compared to my typical main carry
(Well, if I use Meows at all)
Who's your main?
I dont main a main carry
Meowscarada's my current main because Protean is also a menace
I just use whatever the heck I want as a main carry
But if I feel like winning at very quick speeds while putting 0 effort into anything, I run Eternatus
Protean without the nerf is an actual menace with my fav set lol
Who can be ran Solo to run a Meta Speedrun Team
I have to remind myself I'm candy hunting for Tapu Fini
Wait can you CATCH Eternatus?
Only if you have literally every other starter
But as you can probably guess, being that hard to obtain means that Eternatus is an absolute monster
Oh okay. Makes sense. I'll prolly check if I have Axew rq
Even ignoring Eternamax Eternatus, spamming Dragon Energy, Nasty Plot and Recover beats every fight that isn't the Final Boss
And you can beat Final Boss if you use Tera vs it
I do this thing can d i e
And if you get Eternamax, the odds of winning instantly drop to 0
Me when I want to say the odds of winning rise to 100%
And the odds of losing drop to 0
And then accidentally say the odds of winning drop to 0
The secret to beating Eternamax when you're a new player is to rub salt in the wound and start stalling
Or swear at the top of your lungs
Or start gardening
I lied I've beat him once with Delphox, Crobat, Meowscarada, Flygon, Mimikyu, and Araquanid
Salt Cure can be almost guaranteed by cycling through biomed like Cave and Mountains and getting a Garganacl
Garganacl is a fat fuck and can usually land Salt Cure even without Sturdy, and start stalling the shit out of Eternatus with Recover
Graveyard guarantees a Curse user, where the bulkier the Pokemon, the better
I guess he needs a good nature for the stall battle lol
Curse will eliminate 1 healthbar per turn
All you need is for your Curser to land 1 Curse near the start of the battle and the win is basically guaranteed
Leech Seed does the same damage as Garganacl, though the users typically die easier
Might use this my next run
It's only 4 but yeah it's better to catch a wild
I really want to catch a shiny AND I'M FEELING CHEATED BY THE EVENT LOL
Other strats include hitting it with a Topsy-Turvy (most reliable with Prankster/Mega Sableye), Soaking it in tandem with previously mentioned Salt Cure or Toxic and setting up to +6 on Phase 1 with a bulky, recovery using setup sweeper (preferably with Leftovers)
I use the last of those listed strats all the time
Since usually when I do a run, I always bring Tapu Fini for the final fight
As it can solo almost any fight in the game