It has had Flamethrower since like
#other-pokemon-games
wild ore
Idk
Tonight this snake dies
Fuh yea
Choice band
Now I get a +1 dire claw that could maybe sleep
YES
I GOT THE SLEEO
FUCK YEA
GO SNEASLER!!!!
Oh not
It just wakes up first turn…
Go to sleeep
Nah I’d sleep powder
Nah I’d leech seed
2nd face
Fuh
Yuh
BARRY
TWO MORE BARS
OH NO
ZOOMY
USE
BELLY DRUM BOOSTED EXTREME SPEEEEEEEED
YEAAAAAAA
FUCK YOU ETERNATUSSSSSSS
@sweet crypt
I did it
I won first try
sweet crypt
Average Fraudternatus behaviour
left elk
ok so. I gotta ask yall. the old pokemon games that still used HMs and all that jazz... they are Metroidvanias. True or false?
Key features include an interconnected map, ability-gated progression (where new abilities unlock access to previously inaccessible areas), and a cycle of exploration and backtracking
terse pollen
Shut up
unkempt egret
"Design Renegade"
sweet crypt
ok so. I gotta ask yall. the old pokemon games that still used HMs and all that ...
Lmao
celest light
Key features include an interconnected map, ability-gated progression (where new...
False
Pokémon’s just an open world rpg has been the entire time
frank lily
lean vapor
shiny aron !
static spear
Does anyone know if this is real?
lean vapor
the one piece thing in the background or..?
static spear
the one piece thing in the background or..?
The game
static spear
if its the one on top then yeah no, its real.
The Pokemon Pearl game?
static spear
K, wanted to make sure. I know that there is fakes and was skeptical on how it looked
lean vapor
this is a genuine cartridge of pokemon pearl
Ignore my laptop
i knew it was genuine cuz similar id to mine but different production line
static spear
K. Thank you for making sure. Just wanted someone else's opinion
lean vapor
or it could be the fact that all pokemon pearl games in america have the same if not similar little strands of code added to the sticker
smoky gyro
What takes priority? Eject Button or a pivot move like Flip Turn?
Like who switches something back in first
lean vapor
Man i dont know
terse pollen
I assume the pivot move
smoky gyro
I feel like its Eject Button ngl
sweet crypt
What takes priority? Eject Button or a pivot move like Flip Turn?
iirc the Eject Button
lavish dune
i got it at 198 
silk stone
GOD PACK!!!
sweet crypt
Just solod Wave 200 with FlamiGOAT
I want to do a Marshadow run but the 4mss is killing me
Like bro I want 8 seperate moves
narrow pine
I now have a fully evolved starter
sweet crypt
Ok so uhh
Terapagos absolutely deserves a 9 cost bro I just violated the entire game
And Terapagos allows you to infinitely spam Tera so even outside being a strong main carry it can elevate your other Pokemon, though it is very expensive
wild ore
Yea I might skip
latent cave
Yea I might skip
where did you get that many eggs?
sweet crypt
Shame it's an Illumise of all things though
narrow pine
Can I have some of that fucking luck lmao
smoky gyro
Tinted Lens? On an Illumise?
Give it prankster back that's literally its entire gimmick
narrow pine
I started up a cobblemon server with friends and this was my Popplio:
narrow pine
Give it prankster back that's literally its entire gimmick
It has both in Vanilla
smoky gyro
It has *both* in Vanilla
Tinted Lens suck though
narrow pine
No it doesn't?
smoky gyro
On the fireflies specifically
narrow pine
Tinted Lens is argued to-Ah
sweet crypt
Tinted Lens is one of those Abilities where it'd be absolutely fucking broken if it wasn't on exclusively shitmons
narrow pine
Sad Vanmega and Venomoth
smoky gyro
Tinted Lens is one of those Abilities where it'd be absolutely fucking broken if...
Lokix has it
narrow pine
Him too
smoky gyro
I think thats the best mon with it
sweet crypt
And Lokix arguably has shitmon stats
smoky gyro
Tinted Lens first impression is ABSURD
sweet crypt
If it didn't have either First Impression or Tinted Lens it'd certainly not even be UU
sweet crypt
hey Yanmega got banned from RU in Gen 9
I'd imagine that's in part because it can abandon that shit fucking type
That's really Yanmega's biggest weakness
sweet crypt
And it has poor coverage
sweet crypt
Though with all that said, Yanmega lacks a lot of things but it has good Abilities in spades
narrow pine
Good Lord imagine
sweet crypt
Well apart from Frisk lmao
sweet crypt
It isn't the only Pokemon with multiple good Abilities, Pokemon like Sigilpyh and Reuniclus come to mind
narrow pine
Conk
smoky gyro
Quagsire is one
sweet crypt
Because when are you not running Magic Guard
Imagine being so gifted you have one of the best defensive abilities and never run it
narrow pine
I remember when Smogon had an Other Metagame that was every ability at once. Every team had Conk, Yanmega, Azumarill and Salamance
sweet crypt
cough cough Clefable cough cough Reuniclus
Magic Guard is just a cracked ability ngl
smoky gyro
I remember when Smogon had an Other Metagame that was every ability at once. Eve...
I legit do not know what conkeldurr or azumarills other abilities are
Because they never use it
smoky gyro
Okay damn thats good
sweet crypt
I legit do not know what conkeldurr or azumarills other abilities are
Guts, Iron Fist and Sheer Force for Conk, Huge Power, Thick Fat and Sap Sipper on Azu
sweet crypt
Most Waters would kill for Sap Sipper
But Azumarill is so terrible it cannot afford to run it over Huge Power and just use special sets
narrow pine
Yet you can have like 160+ attack
sweet crypt
Yet you can have like 160+ attack
It's actually about 150
Same as Rayquaza
(Maybe slightly more or less I forgot)
sweet crypt
I know it isn't as high as 160 though
narrow pine
I think its 154
sweet crypt
It's like 149.5 or 150.5
Actually 149 exactly
Just checked
And this is why you don't give any ability that doubles an offensive stat in any way to anything with competent stats
narrow pine
Slowly turns to the two Megas
sweet crypt
252 SpA Choice Specs Water Bubble Tera Water Inteleon Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Rayquaza: 381-449 (108.5 - 127.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
(Rayquaza was already there so it gets to be a victim)
I see this change way too often
Considering how this turns Inteleon into a faster, stronger Chi-Yu
narrow pine
Well
smoky gyro
Uhh
narrow pine
Yeah if you gave that type of thing to nearly any Pokemon it'll be broken
smoky gyro
Am I the only one who didnt know water bubble doubles your water damage
narrow pine
give Transistor to Raichu and it'll be really busted
narrow pine
How did you not know its like Araqs whole thing?
smoky gyro
Because
sweet crypt
Water Bubble being the way it is is why Araquanid isn't 100% shitmon
smoky gyro
Araquanid's sole identity to me is setting up sticky webs
narrow pine
Its currently in OU
smoky gyro
And then die
sweet crypt
And 2nd, perhaps even absolute best Sticky Webber
narrow pine
That's above you technically ;)
smoky gyro
And 2nd, perhaps even absolute best Sticky Webber
I prefer galvantula for that ngl
sweet crypt
That's above you technically ;)
Still better in the VR gg ez
narrow pine
smoky gyro
If i had to pick a webs setter
narrow pine
sweet crypt
I'm taking VR placement over tier placement
Because I ain't taking tier placement seriously when you get shit like Weavile UU and Mega Banette OU
I think Latios is at like B?
And Araquanid at B-?
narrow pine
I never hear about Lati in OU
sweet crypt
Idk I forgot actually
sweet crypt
Araquanid is only really viable as a webs setter
narrow pine
And a great tusk nuker
sweet crypt
Which is a pretty niche role
That it competes with against Ribombee
These 2 are definitely the 2 best webbers
You could make an argument for either one
narrow pine
It also solos Treads
sweet crypt
And I see them exchange places in the VR often
narrow pine
But is Rib actually ranked in OU
smoky gyro
Compound eyes thunder is kinda insane
sweet crypt
But is Rib actually ranked in OU
It's B currently iirc
With Araquanid at B-
Though I have seen the opposite semi recently
smoky gyro
110 base power with a 30% para chance
sweet crypt
So it seems to shift pretty often
sweet crypt
110 base power with a 30% para chance
The problem is that Galvantula Thunder kinda doesn't work against the 2 most prevelant Rapid Spinners
So they just Spin on you and now your Sash is gone and they outspeed and KO
narrow pine
Eight fucking Ground types remember
sweet crypt
Iron Treads is especially problematic for Galvantula as it can at least learn Energy Ball for Tusk iirc
narrow pine
Well really six but the meme still kinda standsd
...I forgot Clod dropped when did that happen
sweet crypt
The only thing that can rival the number of viable Ground types in Gen 9 OU are the number of viable Fairy or Dark types
smoky gyro
Tfw the 2 rspinners are both donphan
sweet crypt
Or Dragon too
narrow pine
Five even though I doubt Weezings gonna last
sweet crypt
I swear to god I made a Dark/Fighting fakemon recently and I was looking at OU VR and analysing its MU vs the tier
And I'm like
"OK so here's a Fairy type"
"And here's another Fairy type"
"Oh, yet another Fairy type"
"And ano- how many of these things are there???"
sweet crypt
WHY IS MOONBLAST 95 BP WITH 100 ACCURACY AND A SIDE EFFECT
Because Powercreep
smoky gyro
Who in their right minds thought that was a good idea-
sweet crypt
Also they clearly made Moonblast with the pre nerf Ice Beams, Flamethrowers and Tbolts in mind
Where in the past they had 95 BP
smoky gyro
30% to lower sp atk right?
queen pecan
30% to lower sp atk right?
yes
smoky gyro
Thats ridiculous
narrow pine
Not really/
sweet crypt
And tbf, lowering SpA is less valuable than a Paralysis, Freeze or, on physical attackers, a burn
Still dumb that it is more likely than stuff like Shadow Ball
Which has 80 BP
But tbf Ghost is the better offensive type I guess
smoky gyro
And tbf, lowering SpA is less valuable than a Paralysis, Freeze or, on physical ...
I mean thats true
And its not lowering sp def like most 80 bp moves
But still
sweet crypt
Also Shadow Ball kinda just is under average in general tbh
narrow pine
Also, they didn't give Moonblast out to every Fairy in Gen 6
smoky gyro
30% side effect for a 95 bp move thats 100 acc is just ridiculous
sweet crypt
Saved by Ghost being a godly offensive type
smoky gyro
I mean sludge wave is also 95 tbh
narrow pine
The issue isn't necessarily Fairy or its power. Its just Poison really hasn't been all that strong and Steel types, as good as they are, are exploitable
queen pecan
poison buff, please 🙏
smoky gyro
The issue isn't *necessarily* Fairy or its power. Its just Poison really hasn't ...
And mostly defensive
Offensive steel types arent that popular
narrow pine
I mean its partly why Glowkings been very good
sweet crypt
Tbf to Poison it is at least good defensively
narrow pine
It eats Moonblasts for breakfast
smoky gyro
The only one I can think of is archaludon
narrow pine
Scizors always there
sweet crypt
Scizor, Lucario (mainly the Mega though lmao), Metagross in older gens/Mega Metagross
smoky gyro
Oh god yea gholdengo
narrow pine
The issue is that a certain Magnet exists
sweet crypt
Newer gen Metagross is kinda washed tbh
narrow pine
narrow pine
Newer gen Metagross is kinda washed tbh
Its actually done very well in SV thanks to Psychic Fangs and Heavy Slam
I believe its UU rn
sweet crypt
Its actually done very well in SV thanks to Psychic Fangs and Heavy Slam
Idk you look at the VR and it's lower than Hydrei or Mence in RUBL iirc
So it's very much not all that amazing in UU even if it is UU by usage
sweet crypt
Idk lower tier cutoffs well I just see how most of the B+ Pokemon in newer OUs aren't OU
narrow pine
I thought Usage didn't matter?
sweet crypt
I thought Usage didn't matter?
It doesn't
narrow pine
Granted we are about to get shifts so
sweet crypt
Though I've always seen like, B and lower as good Pokemon that have a niche but don't meet usage reqs personally
narrow pine
From what I know with how old gen tiering works, C+ is usually the cutoff
and sometimes C+ is still ranked in the tier
smoky gyro
Are choiced items and actual stat boosts the same multiplier or different ones?
So if Im at +1 with a band is that x2 or x2.25
sweet crypt
So if Im at +1 with a band is that x2 or x2.25
2.25 I believe
smoky gyro
Stonks
sweet crypt
0 Atk Sniper Drapion Night Slash vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Abomasnow in Snow on a critical hit: 91-109 (23.7 - 28.4%) -- 97% chance to 4HKO
+1 0 Atk Choice Band Drapion Night Slash vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Abomasnow in Snow: 90-106 (23.4 - 27.6%) -- 78.3% chance to 4HKO
+2 0 Atk Drapion Night Slash vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Abomasnow in Snow: 81-96 (21.1 - 25%) -- 0.1% chance to 4HKO
smoky gyro
Yea its stronger
sweet crypt
I wonder why the 2.25 from Sniper is ever so slightly higher than from +1 CB
Probably some oddity in rounding
Oh Araquanid got promoted to S rank on Mono Bug some time ago
I agree with that change I rarely find myself considering not running Araquanid
Scizor also rose to S rank
But is still under Kleavor
narrow pine
Are any of the other Bug Steels even in SV?
sweet crypt
Kleavor is THE mandatory Mono Bug Pokemon
If you don't have it you're throwing, and it's probably the only time it has ever been good
sweet crypt
Are any of the other Bug Steels even *in* SV?
I know Forretress is
narrow pine
Is Stone Axe that required for Mono Bug?
sweet crypt
Is Stone Axe *that* required for Mono Bug?
Kleavor is basically the only way you don't get cooked by Mono Flying and Mono Bug
Seriously Mono Bug has barely any answers to itself
narrow pine
Is Rona banned
sweet crypt
Is Rona banned
Nope
And it's a nightmare to plan around on Mono Bug
So is Kleavor
Both of them only have like 1 "reliable" check that kinda just loses vs it
I tried building a Mono Bug team for another Mono Bug team and I was like
"OK so uhh how tf do I not get instantly swept by Scarf Kleavor+Volcarona"
The answer is probably just sweep first I fucking guess
narrow pine
If only Golisipod didn't have his ability
sweet crypt
If only Golisipod didn't have his ability
Would be worse vs Volcarona than Araquanid for sure
Araquanid has a full blown Fire resist
Which is why it's so needed for Mono Bug
narrow pine
I say Golis because I imagine it could easily take the hit vs Kleavor
sweet crypt
That said Volcarona does learn Hurricane so if your opponent is counterteaming opposing Mono Bug you're cooked
sweet crypt
I say Golis because I imagine it could easily take the hit vs Kleavor
Probably could take at least 1 actually, true
Golisopod's physical bulk has always managed to surprise me
narrow pine
I'll never understand Golisopod
Better bulk than Skarm, built ingame like Gyarados
Given a shit hindering ability
sweet crypt
We HATE Emergency Exit
Should be mentioned alongside other hindering signature Abilities more often than it is
narrow pine
And see
It would be good
On anything fast
In Re;Sun we gave it to Unfezant and Electrode and on them its actually decent.
Granted we also said fuck it and made Golisipod really good
sweet crypt
Green are egg/tutor/TM moves I assume?
I know Golisopod gets all of those
And I imagine red are moves it doesn't get
sweet crypt
Green are egg/tutor/TM moves I assume?
Moved to level up moves ofc
sweet crypt
Oh ok
If it did get Spikes via level up we wouldn't need to worry about movepool cuts slaughtering it
And it'd be nice
Since I think Golisopod actually does run Spikes doesn't it?
narrow pine
Honestly if you want a very genuine attempt at a "everything is balanced" hack. We tried with Re:Sun lol
narrow pine
Since I think Golisopod actually does run Spikes doesn't it?
In Gen 8 yes
sweet crypt
God RU with that ability is insane
Imagine if Golisopod wasn't shackled by its ability
narrow pine
They must've been really scared of the buffed Leech life
sweet crypt
What's even the next closest for a drawback ability mon, Archeops in like NU, PUBL, PU or whatever?
Still fucked up that Archeops is one of the best fossil Pokemon despite the ability btw
I get it has a high BST but still
sweet crypt
Golisopod has very good stat distribution
Ngl
It's kinda like if you took Gliscor's Speed
And distributed it into other stats somewhat evenly
Same HP, similar Attack:Defence:SpD ratio, both have worthless SpD
The difference is one has an extremely strong defensive ability that makes it very hard to break even when it has Roost taken away from it and the other has Emergency Exit
narrow pine
Imagine Golis with regen
sweet crypt
Imagine Golis with regen
Forget Regen, they should actually like
Fucking give Golisopod pivoting moves lmfao
Bro can only pivot when the opponent forces it to what is this bruh
smoky gyro
Imagine if Golisopod wasn't shackled by its ability
It isnt outside of the pvp context
Emergency exit is goated
narrow pine
No it isn't lol
smoky gyro
In pve bro
modern oar
Emergency Exit is very situational, but in the correct situation, it is really good.
sweet crypt
Unfortunately that correct situation is never in PVP
And even in PVE, for me personally, I view it as more of an annoyance
It's especially annoying that Golisopod's turn is cancelled if it fails to move first
They could've like
modern oar
In PvP, the correct situation happens so rarely that Golisopod is never used.
sweet crypt
At least allowed it to attack before switching out
sweet crypt
In PvP, the correct situation happens so rarely that Golisopod is never used.
Umm ackshually it's RarelyUsed
smoky gyro
And even in PVE, for me personally, I view it as more of an annoyance
You should watch run and bun stuff
sweet crypt
At the end of the day, that shit ability is still attached to that pretty good typing and godlike stats
smoky gyro
Its cool how much emergency exist helps
sweet crypt
You should watch run and bun stuff
That isn't exactly normal PVE is it
smoky gyro
Nope
modern oar
The entire thing that Emergency Exit is for seems to be a First Impression use.
sweet crypt
That's the best nuzlockers in the world labbing out their entire teams to best the hardest fangame to nuzlocke, and I ain't gonna be at their level of abusing that shit, nor is it necessary in most cases
In most cases for a casual player playing a mainline game it's simply annoying
But not quite as terrible of a scenario as in Competitive
modern oar
I need to get back to my Run and Bun game eventually.
Anyway, in competitive singles and VGC Golisopod is not used much.
And its ability does not help it.
smoky gyro
Abilities are probably one of the biggest factors of a pokemons viability
sweet crypt
Anyway, in competitive singles and VGC Golisopod is not used much.
Hey, RU is better than most Pokemon
By all means, Golisopod is at the very least average
And I'd say it's even above average
But if it weren't for that ability, it could've been so much more
Like all things considered
It has a good type
Great stats
A very strong priority move
Knock Off
Spikes
Oh, mb
2 very strong priority moves
It also has Sucker Punch
modern oar
I know RU is better than most Pokemon, my favorite Pokemon I don't even think are used much.
sweet crypt
Close Combat as well
Taunt
Can pick between Bulk Up and SD
It's kinda sad that despite that it's RU just because of that ability
It's also very cool, Alola cooked with its bug types
modern oar
What usage tier are the Eeveelutions in singles?
Are they mostly in NU or something like that?
sweet crypt
Are they mostly in NU or something like that?
A few in NU, I think Jolteon in particular is like PU or PUBL
And then a bunch in ZU
Maybe there's one in RU? I forgor
Also hey tier shifts are here
modern oar
The Eeveelutions I know aren't good, most people don't use them.
sweet crypt
PU losing 3 of its best defensive Pokemon probably sucks of bulky teams
modern oar
What does the PUBL tier mean?
sweet crypt
What does the PUBL tier mean?
The Pokemon was too strong for PU and got banned for it
modern oar
Or just any of the BL tiers.
sweet crypt
But it doesn't have usage for the higher tier
Anyways today on NatDex OU being ridiculous
Tapu Fini, an A rank Pokemon, has fallen to UU
Wait I'm dumb my Internet didn't load the SV NatDex page
Because it's being ass rn
My Internet has been ass the last few weeks
It's sad
OK fini drop makes sense in the context of Gen 9 NatDex
narrow pine
Also hey tier shifts are here
and in three months Weavile will rise and Rilla will drop again
Calling it now
sweet crypt
and in three months Weavile will rise and Rilla will drop again
You're probably correct tbh
Anyways I was gonna say NatDex got its shit together
But then I saw that Mienshao, an A rank threat in NatDex UU, fell to RU
Goodra Hisui, a pretty mid B- mon, rose
narrow pine
Gen 9 has been so damn volatile
sweet crypt
And so did the C+ Salamence and unranked Dracozolt
Pecharunt rise makes sense though it's a respectable Pokemon in NatDex UU
As do all the other rises and drops
So overall, NatDex is actually mostly comprehensible this time around
I'm shocked
RU losing Gapdos is massive for the tier, or so I've heard
From a viability perspective, both rises make sense, they're solid B+ mons
Though I imagine UU gains less from Gapdos than what RU loses
Hawlucha and Comfey fall make sense
Lucha was like B-
And Comfey is apparently entirely unranked
Tornadus Therian is the best Pokemon in UU
So it is losing quite a bit
I'd imagine losing Heatran is also massive
smoky gyro
Triage is still the most absurd ability ever
sweet crypt
Looking at the VR, these 2 are the main ways to check Zarude
Apart from I guess Lokix, who also benefits from their absence
Both of these are already very strong Pokemon, so this may not bode well for the tier
Only time will tell
Heatran and Tornadus' rises can be attributed to a recent RMT from what I've heard
And it's also notable that Torn-T has always been underused for how good it is, being an A ranked Pokemon
Heatran is also solid at B+
Rillaboom's rise is somewhat questionable given it is ranked at B, but not anything I'd look at for too long
Since it isn't really that unordinary
Weavile always rises and falls, it'll be back better than ever soon enough
Araquanid on the other hand has had this fall coming to it for a while
Competing for a spot on a niche team archetype with a Pokemon as viable as you are does not bode well for your usage rate
narrow pine
It is genuinely impressive how awful my luck with IVs are
wild ore
Darn
sweet crypt
Not much can be said about Azelf, Ribombee and Terrakion's falls
modern oar
I'm not the luckiest with IVs either.
sweet crypt
Simply substandard Pokemon failing to reach usage criteria
wild ore
My only useless t3 shiny
modern oar
I just remembered that WolfeyVGC said that Umbreon was one of the best dark types in VGC.
sweet crypt
Diancie was a pretty big part of NU, so its loss will be felt. It also doesn't have much influence in RU in terms of viability
wild ore
I just remembered that WolfeyVGC said that Umbreon was one of the best dark type...
It’s not
Tera dark incinaroar is
Oh wait
It’s already dark
wild ore
The best water,fire,grass,steel,fairy,bug,poison,flying,fighting,ghost,psychic,ground,rock
sweet crypt
Duraludon rises to NU, though it's ranked at B tier so this is a bit questionable. The rest of the rises to NU however make sense, but PU will miss these Pokemon greatly
wild ore
And also, I said "one of the best" meaning there are better ones.
I was tryna make the joke that Tera incin is the best pkm in every type
modern oar
He did top ten lists for each type, and didn't do tera Incineroar for all of them.
wild ore
But that’s the joke the comment section always makes
modern oar
I was tryna make the joke that Tera incin is the best pkm in every type
I'm sorry, but I didn't laugh.
wild ore
Duh
sweet crypt
Drednaw is notably ranked at A- in NU, so its fall is somewhat of an anomaly. The rest make complete sense
sweet crypt
I was tryna make the joke that Tera incin is the best pkm in every type
Bro thinks he's Singles Kingambit (/j)
(He's probably only the best Dark, Steel and Fairy type tbh)
modern oar
Incineroar was the best in the top ten dark types tier list Wolfey did.
sweet crypt
Incineroar was the best in the top ten dark types tier list Wolfey did.
Yeah but that's Doubles
smoky gyro
Eww wolfey cringe
sweet crypt
Venusaur is ranked at A- in PU, but I do get its drop
wild ore
Anyways I like when he uses those random ass Pkm in online tournaments
sweet crypt
For the sole reason that it is a weather abuser
Weather abusers often find themselves in lower tiers than ones they are viable in
modern oar
Sorry if I'm annoying for watching WolfeyVGC.
sweet crypt
Grafaiai on the other hand is apparently just mid so there's no reason to be confused here
wild ore
Sorry if I'm annoying for watching WolfeyVGC.
?
sweet crypt
Mismagius is even worse though so idk why it rose lmao
It wasn't amazing in ZU but it had its place in B+ so its loss will probably be felt
That's about all the rises and drops I felt like covering with minimal detail since I don't actually play these tiers
Just analysing their viability in each tier
modern oar
?
I mainly said that because someone said WolfeyVGC was cringe, and sometimes when someone says that they also have negative opinions on people who watch the person's content.(WolfeyVGC in this case)
sweet crypt
If I were to rank all Dark types in Singles, Arceus would unironically be Number 1
Well, maybe Number 2
Yveltal is a beast
It's close between the 2
After that yeah idk lmao
Uhh
Kingambit is better than most of the Ubers Dark types despite being OU
So it gets to dominate 2 tiers at once
I'd say it'd probably fit in nicely at 3rd
wild ore
I mainly said that because someone said WolfeyVGC was cringe, and sometimes when...
O
It’s ok just ignore the guy
sweet crypt
Though for a similar reason shouldn't Ting-Lu be 3rd?
wild ore
It might’ve just been rage bait
sweet crypt
I guess maybe 4th
wild ore
Winning in 3 hours total
sweet crypt
I guess so?
Who's better between Single Strike Urshifu and Uber Feesh: Offensive Wallbreaker in terms of Singles even
Has anybody ever asked this question?
I think they're both comfortably over Roaring Moon
Who I suppose is 8th
9th and 10th are both just OU mons
I'd probably nominate Darkrai and H-Sam
But if we consider overall competitive history Ttar probably comes in even above some of the Ubers
wild ore
Latios what’s the best/favorite type in the game to u
sweet crypt
Latios what’s the best/favorite type in the game to u
Probably just Fairy, as common of an opinion that is
It's just widely agreed upon that the top 3 types are Fairy, Steel and Water
Then the 4th and 5th I've seen be like Ghost and Ground usually in either order
wild ore
What’s your favorite type
sweet crypt
I sometimes also see Dark but I think that's more so the Pokemon
Like a Dragon situation
Both types are still good though
wild ore
I like electric
sweet crypt
It's a shame they're usually so weak
wild ore
Cus I got my first shiny pkm from that type
sweet crypt
It ain't flawless but it's at least average
unkempt egret
yea tbh if I was probably ranking "#1 most consistent mon across all gens" it'd probably be tyranitar
sweet crypt
yea tbh if I was probably ranking "#1 most consistent mon across all gens" it'd ...
Idk though, Kyogre's like
Right there
wild ore
Magikarp
sweet crypt
Consistently an S tier Ubers mon
sweet crypt
Or at least A+
unkempt egret
since it doesn't feel like it's done terribly and yea kyogre too
I was thinking more non-ubers
sweet crypt
For non Ubers yeah it's really only Ttar and Zapdos
unkempt egret
actually I forget does snorlax actually have a 99-100% use rate in gen 2 ou or is it slightly lower
sweet crypt
actually I forget does snorlax _actually_ have a 99-100% use rate in gen 2 ou or...
It's probably around 99%
unkempt egret
snorlax has a very up-and-down mon through the gens lol
sweet crypt
Though realistically the 1% just never revealed Snorlax
sweet crypt
For non Ubers yeah it's really only Ttar and Zapdos
They've been doing it for longer than the newer consistent mons like Lando-T or Ferrothorn
And even then Lando-T probably doesn't count it was Ubers in Gen 5 I think
Ferrothorn though is a consistency beast
And in both OU and Ubers
Grass/Steel with those stats is so strong it doesn't even need reliable recovery, it can make do with Leech Seed
wild ore
Speaking of snorlax
I actually got the achivement on pokerouge for dealing 1k and above dmg
Bc I ohko’s kukuis g max snor
sweet crypt
Makes sense
wild ore
With Sneasler
sweet crypt
I imagine most people get that by OHKOing Blissey with a physical attacker
wild ore
Like I thought I would need like 2 attacks
But one Tera boosted +2 close combat was enough ig
sweet crypt
Like I thought I would need like 2 attacks
Snorlax has relatively low Physical Defence
And Sneasler hits hard
Combine that with a 240 BP SE move and doubled Attack
And uhh
wild ore
What’s with pkm and not giving high hp pkm decent bulk
sweet crypt
Yeah no even if Snorlax had good PhysDef it'd get OHKOd
That probably would OHKO Stellarpagos
By probably
I mean definitely
100%
1000%
I wonder what the most common type at the absolute tip of my tierlist is
Like I'm talking the type of Pokemon that would warrant an S+
unkempt egret
some attacks are very much just "resistances are irrelevant, immunities or you're dead" rofl
wild ore
some attacks are very much just "resistances are irrelevant, _immunities or you'...
Plus 6 defense body press by zamazenta
sweet crypt
some attacks are very much just "resistances are irrelevant, _immunities or you'...
Tinted Lens Pokemon be like:
unkempt egret
I think dracovish was the original pokemon I used that on
because fisheous rend can get so many damage multipliers that the end damage can often look like a pinball score at times
unkempt egret
as I said, "resistances are irrelevant" rofl
sweet crypt
You know who can 2HKO Palkia with a quad resisted move?
unkempt egret
chi-yu?
sweet crypt
chi-yu?
Yup
I FUCKING LOVE CHI-YU
Bug: 6
Fighting: 4
Grass: 4
Dark: 4
Dragon: 4
Ghost: 3
Steel: 4
Electric: 1
Fire: 5
Rock: 1
Water: 1
Normal: 1
Ground: 1
Ice: 3
Fairy: 1
Poison: 1
Psychic: 3
Any unmentioned type has 0
That said there's only 1 unmentioned type, being Flying
Unless I'm being stupid
I am pretty tired rn
So that's a possibility
Highest ranked Flying Type would be Yveltal
fresh trench
Alright, maties if y'all made it over here. More ideas to make absurd creations
tight aurora
Ok i looked up ability shield
Yeah skill swap doesnt work i see that now
Does it cover teravolt?
Not teravolt uh the moves
Moongeist beam
fresh trench
I think ability shield prevents it.
simple oxide
Moongeist beam
can't hit that. wonder guard.
tight aurora
Hm i see
simple oxide
I think the only ways to ko it would be
- use a move like purify to clear the paralysis and allow you to burn it
- use a non-damage move that breaks items like corrosive gas
fresh trench
That's what I ran up against when having steel bug or steel flying, as well as steel ghost, with wonder guard and held items
I believe the substitute would take all the damage until it fades like normal.
Not sure how it applies to hazards such as sandstorm and others.
tight aurora
I meant its health man...
It has 1 hp but its at full health
Does it round up damage and kill it
fresh trench
Hmm. Haven't tried it. But that's interesting.
I think it can't take below 1hp
I'll go try a shedinja with substitute. Hold on.
It can't use it.
It doesn't have enough HP left.
tight aurora
I see
fresh trench
Are there any abilities that raise HP temporarily to maybe allow for substitute to be used, despite having wonderguard?
In the debug it allows for 'set secondary ability' but as soon as I try the game always crashes. However. On the note of debug, the heck is shadow Pokémon?
unkempt egret
you could Baton Pass a substitute but you're already in Anything Goes territory at that point
fierce chasm
@unkempt egret think i found somewhat an alternate way to deal with max eternatus, but gotta ask bout this tho, does gaurd split and powersplit even work on eternatus?
unkempt egret
not sure? if they don't have (N) then worth a shot
I think I used Power Split on a shuckle in mono rock but I don't really feel either move much? it's odd
fierce chasm
I think I used Power Split on a shuckle in mono rock but I don't really feel eit...
it realy depends on what u throw it at tbh if were talking bout the effect cause its not based on stages but on total stats, ev has impact on it, like it would scale less well +- and sure its not entirely in itself gonna be helpfull, but if for sample lets say u throw in a shuckle doing powersplit just to lower the base stat of max eternatus, it would still make ur bulky pokemons more bulky and u still can throw stuff like lower special attack stages etc
like if the move works
its actualy easy
the only thing i am doubting even more is this, what happens if u do power split, swap pokemon and let it die, then throw back shuckle and do another power split, due the respawn it should reset shuckle base stats, so technicaly it should work again
i mean if u look at those base stats at eternamax xD
unkempt egret
yea the "based on stages" one is the two swap moves which
guard swap might have a good use if it isn't an (N) to steal +6 defenses right when phase 2 starts
fierce chasm
guard swap might have a good use if it isn't an (N) to steal +6 defenses right w...
meh alternative idea is simply this, blissey leftovers, light screen, calm mind, softboiled and a psychic move
like eternamax only has special move, all u need is let some die to lower special attack to delete bulk blissey more
sure leftovers might get sucked in tho xD
but with the calm mind stages, psychic gonna hit good
serene grace also increase chances to lower special def
like, waste as much possible pp
worse case scenario
unkempt egret
add in some passive damage otherwise you will run out of pp
fierce chasm
add in some passive damage otherwise you _will_ run out of pp
psychic is super effective and its just 1 mon js xD
unkempt egret
still ain't enough by itself lol
fierce chasm
like can use pokemons with ability pressure to deplete it even quicker for suicide
4th move is cosmic power
aka once pp gone it just gonna take in dmg
fierce chasm
still ain't enough by itself lol
u gonna be surprised how much dmg blissey can do with 6 stage of calm mind with super effective move, blissey only sucks in dealing dmg physicaly not special x)
let alone the point i made before of lowering special def
unkempt egret
we'll see but as I said I doubt it
(remember that it also has pressure so you only get 5-8 shots too)
balmy forum
lavish dune
Route 5 ultra sunlocke is a Metapod! Their name is Clarnaby because I couldn't decide between Clarence and Barnaby
sweet crypt
can't hit that. wonder guard.
Moongeist Beam ignores abilities
You would need Ability Shield I'd imagine
simple oxide
Oh right 
sweet crypt
Also, Wonder Guard doesn't cover Moongeist Beam
Because the only Pokemon with Wonder Guard
Is Shedinja
Who is weak to Ghost
simple oxide
This was about a tera electric shedinja with a comical amount of held items
sweet crypt
This was about a tera electric shedinja with a comical amount of held items
If you give anything comical amounts of held items it becomes unstoppable
Tf are you gonna do about Scarf Specs Caly-S 💀
Add a Colbur for good measure so now it tanks 1 Sucker Punch or something
simple oxide
Prankster destiny bond.
sweet crypt
like eternamax only has special move, all u need is let some die to lower specia...
It has Cross Poison in Phase 2 and with enough Attack boosts it could probably break Blissey
Phase 1 has Eternabeam, Sludge Bomb, Flamethrower and Cosmic Power
Phase 2 has Dynamax Cannon, Cross Poison, Flamethrower and Recover
And idk if it still has it, but it also had Cosmic Power in the past during Phase 2
Yes, it had 5 moves
It always only has 1 Reover PP though
brisk hedge
https://fixupx.com/sinnoh_ceo/status/1973031127888880062
Are some of these fanmade regions?
I recognize the Pokémon ranger regions (Fiore, Almia and Obliva), Orre from Colosseum and XD, the orange islands from the anime, and all of the mainline regions obviously, but the others are completely foreign to me
Also, why is Sinnoh to the south of Johto when the Sinjoh ruins are to the north of Johto, heavily implying that Sinnoh is north of Johto
And why are the sevvi islands not right next to Kanto
lavish dune
why did LordFarquaad the Golbat evolve at 25
this lad has 1 heart WHY ARE YOU A CROBAT?
terse pollen
I'd be worried if it had more than one heart
lavish dune
buneary needed 4
im so glad i went to ten carat and got the flynium
i thought araquanid was gonna be wishiwashi
i led with a god damn magnemite
Lana trial area encounter is Magikarp!
welcome back Klebsiella
sweet crypt
Lana trial area encounter is Magikarp!
Great encounter if you can get it to Level 20
lavish dune
Oh I know believe me, I used them in my blind platinum nuzlocke and they swept the e4 and Cynthia
Turns out not much can stop a dragon dancing Gyrados, even 3 levels under
sweet crypt
Probably the best encounter there actually
lavish dune
The scariest thing was a Mr. Mime with thunderbolt, but Gangrene (Torterra) handled thag
Though, I grinded on Onix, Steelix, and Graveler, defense EVs might have saved me
lavish dune
Probably the best encounter there actually
I just knew I wanted a water type, wasn't worried about which I got
Because otherwise my team is built to die to a garden hose
terse pollen
Gyarados isn't even that good fr
terse pollen
You are not safe from Cosmog
sweet crypt
How are you beak blasting when youre asleep
Beak Blast can start up even while the user is asleep
Even if they cannot use the move due to being asleep
This is how it works in game, and not an issue on Showdown's side
At least to my knowledge
With that said, it probably is unintentional lmao
smoky gyro
Is it supposed to burn tho
sweet crypt
Is it supposed to burn tho
Yes?
That's literally part of Beak Blast
If you hit it with a contact move while the beak is heating up, you get burnt
sweet crypt
If Beak Blast can heat up while the user is asleep, it makes sense that you can still get burnt by attacking while it sleeps
What doesn't make sense is it being able to heat up, which is likely a limitation of how Beak Blast works
I'd imagine Focus Punch works similarly
willow shadow
Ok hot take (or correct me if this isn't a hot take, but) Koraidon i think gets way too much hate, and honestly, is probably my favorite legendary
My favorite has always been Ho-oh, but I just think ho-oh loses a lot of aura in 3d as opposed to its 2d sprite
Like hurt hahaha motorcycle, but honestly I think people harping on that blow it way out of proportion, I think its design with the colors and feathers and weird neck thing are fucking rad
And fighting dragon is a pretty interesting type combo
My favorite yapper
timid pagoda
i think some of the new gen pokemon get way too much hate in general 🙁
willow shadow
i think some of the new gen pokemon get way too much hate in general 🙁
Its funny, cause i do dislike a ton of newer mons
Like I think moraidon is a pretty unappealing design
But koraidon is my goat
timid pagoda
i think meowscarada gets way too much hate i really like the concept
but that might just be me
unkempt egret
you gotta give em at least 5-10 years before they get judged on their own merits imo
it's kinda like pre-BotW zelda where the worst one was always "the most recent one" because people are still comparing it to what's behind it
timid pagoda
exactly it pisses me off
its the same with bipedal pokemon so many of them are so cool but most people hate them bc theyre 'furry bait' ffs
unkempt egret
imo, it feels like people want pokemon to be species again and not characters
like gens 6-9 have a lot of mons that work as an individual but get strange when imagining an entire species of them being like that
which isn't completely absent in gens 1-4, cubone and absol being two great cases of it but it does feel like that kind of design got a lot more common in gens 7-9 where almost everything has some kind of signature
smoky gyro
i think meowscarada gets way too much hate i really like the concept
I love meowscarada
Both design wise and stat wise
I love glass cannons
narrow pine
which isn't completely absent in gens 1-4, cubone and absol being two great case...
I mean that's also part of the modern "crutch" of Pokemon design.
Every new mons gonna have either a new signature move, ability or even evolution method. Sometimes multiple at once. Even if said abilities or moves are carbon copies of others and just straight up weaker than ones introduce in Gen 3
sweet crypt
Tbh I kinda just prefer the newer Pokemon to the older ones in general
Like a while back I ranked every generation using data from my tierlist
And I remember Gens 9 and 7 were the highest
narrow pine
That's because Gen 2, 3 and 5 all have just a ton of weak ass filler in their dexs to get really high numbers, Quantity over quality.
and it takes a while for a lot of Gen 1 mons to shine
sweet crypt
With 3rd going to either 8 or 5 depending on how you weigh each tier
Iirc 5 won over 8 if you weighted higher tiers more heavily
And using a more balanced rating system Gen 8 was higher
But they clearly take 3rd and 4th
I forgot what was 5th but if I had to guess
Probably gens 3 or 4
narrow pine
Gen 5 is very much an all over the place dex. Too many mons are trying very hard to be "X Kanto mon, but shinier, cooler and stronger"
Conk, Gigalith, Unfezant, etc
sweet crypt
Idk though Gigalith definitely succeeds at being shinier cooler and stronger than Golem
And it isn't even remotely close
narrow pine
I'd rather have Ground STAB
sweet crypt
Ground STAB is cool and all but Golem kinda just has far worse stats and abilities
sweet crypt
Remove the later buff, they have the *same* abilities of Sturdy and Sand Force
With that removed then uhh
Idk
Who is better in Gen 9, Dusclops or Dusknoir
If you say it doesn't matter they're both worthless then you answered correctly
narrow pine
Plus they cheat a little
narrow pine
Ground STAB is cool and all but Golem kinda just has far worse stats and abiliti...
All new Gen 5 mons have higher BSTs than the Kanto versions
Giga has 20+ bst than Golem
That just...I don't like it
narrow pine
I just don't like the "tryhard" energy of Gen 5 to replace Gen 1
It didn't work, got heavily criticized for both right and wrong reasons
and now we've gotten non-stop Gen 1 pandering
There's a lot of Gen 5 mons I love, Chande, Galvant, Reun, Braviary
But then there's also the fact that a lot of Gen 5 mons....are just not fun to use.
Ah yes, I do love Ice Cream and Gears that take till basically postgame to evolve, having literally no coverage except One move
sweet crypt
Yeah some of the Gen 5 mons definitely don't perform well at all
But in Unova's defence most regions have at least a few shitmons
And usually more than just a few
narrow pine
Early on there was this....lack of care. coughHoenncough to what mons had in terms of kits
Starting with Sinnoh there seemed to be some care, even if to consciously make a mon not very good
And now Specticle creep has hit the series hard with Galar and SV
sweet crypt
Gen 2 having a shitload of Pokemon with the stats of an NFE and the obtainability of Hydreigon in the sense of it being postgame
And then you'll hear something ridiculous about how it's actually Death, Destroyer of Worlds in a challenge run of some sort
Like apparently Girafarig's just GOATed in HGSS Nuzlockes?
unkempt egret
I'm not sure about that in either side since johto imo is just an awful nuzlocke region in general lol
but yea I think I had gen 2 as my worst and gen 4 as my best (nostalgiaaaa) for the mons themselves but I recall it being close
wild ore
I’ve been trying to play soul but trying to lvl my team up is a absolute nightmare
unkempt egret
yeaaa
wild ore
Like to beat my rival I had to resort to spamming leer and putting it to sleep
unkempt egret
johto and especially HGSS very much want you to have a full team by the time you beat morty and stick with it for the rest of the game
wild ore
Since my starter and my entire team was so under leveled against the starter
unkempt egret
it says a lot when one of the best methods of grinding in gen 2's gym 5-7 stretch is day care bicycling
wild ore
I think the problem was that uh
I didn’t see the bug gym there so I never did it until after the fight
wild ore
I’m a blind dumbass ok😭
unkempt egret
its fine lol
I think the rival just ambushes you at the town's exit anyway if you go there after the slowpoke well quest
unkempt egret
for the best nuz region uuuh
wild ore
Sv
unkempt egret
as much as I'm gonna get smacked for this, gen 8 if you don't mind the wild encounter rules
barring that probably either gen 3 or B2/W2?
unkempt egret
SV is also a good pick, as is XY
wild ore
Oh yea xy
And the omega/alpha games
Those were really easy
I mean
You get a mega Latios/latias for Christ sake
unkempt egret
not too keen on ORAS since wally and steven are such brutal difficulty spikes, especially if you prohibit most megas like I do lol
(wally at least has a hard counter in spiritomb/sableye)
wild ore
not too keen on ORAS since wally and steven are such brutal difficulty spikes, e...
I don’t understand why ppl prohibit some megas?
That’s the whole gimmick
unkempt egret
tempted to say MMetagross is the third highest required BST in a maingame behind ultra necro and eternamax?
unkempt egret
I don’t understand why ppl prohibit some megas?
I run a no 560+ BST limit lol
then again I think I just have all of the gimmicks banned in
my runs except for non-STAB tera and some very specific megas
unkempt egret
then again it is silly when maingame is at castlevania SoTN levels of broken stuff quantity
wild ore
Mega swampert mega gyrados(shiny🤑) mega Latios, primal groudon, Breloom and
Uhhhh
Fuh what was my last mon
Gardivour yea
narrow pine
tempted to say MMetagross is the third highest required BST in a maingame behind...
That's just plain wrong lol.
Metagross is 600, same as every Psuedo. Mega is 700, which doesn't even pass Arceus.
wild ore
Soooo 4th?
narrow pine
This is ignoring like every strong legendary like Mega Ray and the dogs
wild ore
Oh yea
narrow pine
Primal Groudon has 770
wild ore
What happens if your mega ray faints against deoxys
Do you just die lol
Like talking in a realistic sense
unkempt egret
That's just plain wrong lol.
Metagross is 600, same as every Psuedo. Mega is 70...
do you fight arceus in a maingame?
you might be correct though, what about BW Kyurem?
unkempt egret
I haven't played LA so I'm inclined to take your word on that being before the credits roll
but yea let me check
narrow pine
I literally still have the page up
narrow pine
Kyurem and his forms are 680, like all box legends
Sorry this is wrong, as Kblack and Kwhite have 700
Kyurem himself has 660
unkempt egret
so primal groudon/kyogre and the two superbosses are higher while BW Kyurem ties
sweet crypt
johto and especially HGSS very much want you to have a full team by the time you...
Normal types apparently kinda just shit on Morty since he barely has any ways to hit them
Yknow assuming your Normal type can hit Morty back
unkempt egret
and possibly LA Arceus
unkempt egret
Normal types apparently kinda just shit on Morty since he barely has any ways to...
bonus points for noctowl who also has insomnia as an option
narrow pine
in Johto, I just use a mon with Surf to sweep
unkempt egret
but girafarig can hit them with psychic confusion so it probably scratches that "it's super effective!" itch
narrow pine
You would have to go very ahead to Mahogony town
sweet crypt
In fact in general from what I've heard the only hard parts of a Johto nuzlocke are the mid game being long and drawn out, Bugsy's Scyther, Whitney's Miltank, Claire's Kingdra, the Elite 4+Champion and Blue
unkempt egret
which you can do from what I recall
sweet crypt
Red is victim to the fact that if anyone actually fucking bothers to grind for Red then they're overleveled as fuck
Since Pikachu is so much higher leveled than the rest of his team
And he also spams recharge moves so you're getting free turns
And he's the last battle
unkempt egret
and he feels like he's meant to be taken on 20 levels lower rofl
narrow pine
in GSC Red is really easy even with massively underleveled pokemon
unkempt egret
so if you're at his level it becomes basically a punchline
narrow pine
in HGSS....not so much
unkempt egret
doubly so if you intentionally play on a day where lapras and blastoise don't get their hail
sweet crypt
The video I was watching with this info also had tech like using Guillotine on Blue's Machamp after luring Rhydon out and KOing it with a Kingler
Which is extremely funny
unkempt egret
nice nice
sweet crypt
The tech was instantly sacrifice a Fire Type to KO Exeggutor
Because Fire types are ass in Johto
unkempt egret
makes sense
sweet crypt
So this is the most use you get out of them
Which is a bit sad for Fire types but ok
unkempt egret
but yea I think I've only had two runs that ended with a single mon left and both were a romhack that ended with sweeps
I've had a fair bit end with just two though
sweet crypt
Heart Gold is also just better than Soul Silver even if Ho-Oh is garbage for the nuzlocke because now you don't have to deal with the worse encounter routing
Like yknow
Delibird existing
unkempt egret
usually because something went wrong in the endgame
like kikui's magnezone going feral and chomping 4/6 of my team by itself while leech seeded
sweet crypt
like kikui's magnezone going feral and chomping 4/6 of my team by itself _while ...
Yeow
unkempt egret
in my defense that was 100% my fault since I used giga drain to pop sturdy instead of earth power because I thought palossand lived two flash cannons
(it did not even with the giga drain heal)
sweet crypt
Yeah Magnezone hits like a truck
unkempt egret
I think I assumed it didn't have a sp. attack boosting nature? I forget why my calc went wrong there since I remember it wasn't a crit)
narrow pine
why didn't you just attack with two Earth powers
unkempt egret
I don't know sturdy overwrote my logic lol
if I did use EP then just palo would have fainted
sweet crypt
It was a Romhack you said?
unkempt egret
as opposed to alakazam, meganium, and I forget the last one also fainting
unkempt egret
It was a Romhack you said?
this one was a vanilla sun run
sweet crypt
Oh
narrow pine
Just definite Skill Issue lol
unkempt egret
as I said it was rofl
unkempt egret
welcome to gen 7 where the opponents have super training and you don't get it until after totem salazzle
sweet crypt
Ever realise how similar Glaceon and Magnezone are in terms of stat spread?
That ability+type combo does a lot for Magnezone competitively
unkempt egret
I believe my last run of it went a fair bit better with a 4/6 clear
sweet crypt
And that ability+type combo for Glaceon dooms it
unkempt egret
also yea ice type + kneecapping itself with a weather ability doing anti-wonders
narrow pine
just make Ice resist Ground, Fairy and Flying I'm begging you Gamefreak
sweet crypt
Seriously though why does the small ice fox have basically the same stat spread as the massive magnetic robot
unkempt egret
outside of maybe hydration or a speed boosting ability that isn't chlorophyll in a game where venusaur is running about
unkempt egret
I think I had ground and water as resists?
but I also got rid of the fighting weakness I think
sweet crypt
Magnezone is longer than it is tall, certainly
Wider?
Wider's probably the word here
unkempt egret
maybe
in GO none of my glaceons get past 1.0m while my most narrow smallest magnezone is at 1.16m
then again the only XXL 'lution I have is leafeon which uuuh
sweet crypt
What are some random measurement facts y'all know about Pokemon?
unkempt egret
sweet crypt
I've measured it in SV, and Lunala's measurement almost definitely refers to height
narrow pine
What are some random measurement facts y'all know about Pokemon?
That they are very illogical
unkempt egret
What are some random measurement facts y'all know about Pokemon?
orbeetle's weight is comedy from what I recall
sweet crypt
With its wingspan being about double, if not maybe slightly more than that height
narrow pine
Charizard like like barely 4 feet tall
sweet crypt
That they are very illogical
True
Kyogre casually being like
Half the length
And 10 times less heavy
Than an actual orca
unkempt egret
also if stadium's petit cup was still a thing than blacephleon would be allowed
unkempt egret
I think even in stadium the 2m requirement knocks out exactly one pokemon that fits the other two (ekans)
sweet crypt
I mean it's built like a stick figure and has a balloon for a head
Me personally I find myself getting more surprised at how Kartana's measurements seem to be directly trying to feel like a realistic origami size
unkempt egret
or mudsdale's
sweet crypt
And the dex still says stuff like "It can cut down massive fucking steel towers in a single stroke"
narrow pine
Isn't Mudsdale the only realistic weight in the franchise?
unkempt egret
makes the few attempts where they do try to be accurate all the more jarring
narrow pine
I know Rapidash is way too light
sweet crypt
Isn't Mudsdale the only realistic weight in the franchise?
I remember feeling like a few of the fish Pokemon weights were normal when fucking around with friends
There's definitely some weights that could be seen as normal
But yeah most are uhh
Either ridiculously light or ridiculously heavy
Hey is Guzzlord weighing exactly 888 kg intentional
Idk it being 3 of the exact same number feels too deliberate
unkempt egret
numbers in the pokedex are more of a "what feels X" than anything else lol
noble zealot
The franchise's sense of scale is so whack that some of the lowest BMIs belong to massive aquatic Pokémon (Dondozo, Wailord, Schooling Form Wishiwashi)
unkempt egret
like they could just replace the numbers with "light/standard/heavy/super heavy" and mean basically the same thing