#other-pokemon-games
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i hate that youre right
yo guys really enjoyed this game and will probably do future playthroughs, but does anyone have some other romhacks/fangame recommendations? heard good things about both infinity and xenoverse, obviously heard about unbound but saving that for last because its the best apparently.
(reposting here cuz didnt know there was an actual channel for discussing other pokemon games)
what i dont reccomend is snakewood.
noted lol
Uhh some fun ones I've played are
Pokemon pathways (it's alot like persona genre wise from what I've heard of persona) (fangame)
Pokemon rocket edition (U play as a member of team rocket and work Ur way up) (romhack)
Pokemon this gym of mine (you play as a gym leader of which typing you can pick) (fangame)
Pokemon too many types (a game where there's like 50+ new typings in the game and you play through it made by alpharad which is neat) (romhack I think)
All of them except pathways is complete but I still recommend pathways as it's a really unique one and the game Dev is really fun to hang out with which he does with his friends who also helped made the game in Thier discord
Which also the obvious if you do intend on playing any of these join Thier discord and ask the people there for the link don't go looking for it
Also speaking of pokemon pathways I actually helped come up with the concepts for like 12 different classes and starters with the Dev it was really fun
On the topic of too many types
Super mariomon which includes mario characters made into the world of pokemon
Also by alpharad.
Tbh I don't like Too Many Types for the reason that there's too many types
I like being able to know looking at something what moves to use on it
I'm kinda the same but I just don't like that most things having 3 typings means that getting turbo-nuked out of nowhere becomes a lot more common
the concept is neat, but just not my cup of tea
Pokemon rejuvenation
Pokemon Vega
I will always vouch for that game it's amazing
The base version is extremely grindy though so Vega minus or Viva las Vega would be better if you hate grinding
But its an amazing game
Also Pokemon Clover
Absolute meme of a game
I've said it before but Minus is closer to vanilla with having just 151 mons in maingame while Viva has the postgame mons in the maingame. both are great options though.
Screw both and play base vega 🧌
in japanese rofl
Man I still wonder if Deneb and Procyon is being worked on or if theyve ditched it
Ive waited for it for SO LONG
yea I wonder too since it's been a long time
I wouldn't personally recommend Clover considering how dated the jokes are nowadays but I've always heard the gameplay is actually great
Ive never played it myself I just know its a big meme
And the scene where you get sent to jail if you rare candied too much
when will this thing evolve
I would play another Pokemon fangame, but I just don't know a good one to play.(I'm going to play this one a bit more before I play a different one)
It evolves by high friendship I believe.
how high
its been 1 hour ive been talking walking around this thing
atp i might offer him a dinner too
Max friendship and has to be during the day

I don't know how high, I'm not sure if it tells you how much friendship you have with it.
i hate riolu
Also you have to evolve it manually cus PLA
ah yes
It will tell you if you gain experience if it can evolve or not I believe.
yuh ik
You can build Lucario as a special attacker
Lucario has some decent special attacking potential.
Ye and it’s signature move is special attacking
Zekrom is so much weaker as a special attacker.
yuh
still tho
transformed it
also
where can i find the hisui starters in pla
i wanna shiny hunt my team
Post game I believe.(Either that or rare late game)
mh
And what I mean by rare spawns is that they have an extremely low chance for one to spawn every day.
i might hunt at last
im very much unlucky with distorsion things
watch me find a shiny gible
I only got the Hisuian starters by progressing the game.
dang
i got the sinnoh starters
besides piplup
before i get to the outbreak if i find a shiny gible ill replace some1 from my team
I never finished the full game though, so they might have a place to spawn.
And I mean finished the full game as in got to Arceus.
the hisuian starter spawn only in some distorsion zones i think
other starters like sinnoh's ones have specific zones
Yeah, you're probably right, good luck with getting them!
i got kod by a gibble gang
gotta pull the alpha garchomp
i got ganged on by literaly baby sharks💔
and also you can get the from laventon
or lavender or whoever was the prof
feeding frenzy
It's the funny number
Nice balls bro
now were flying a bit too close to the sun
i JUST started vro
I wish I got luck like this on Mawile runs
yeah
If I ever use Mawile I just get stuck with base Mawile for the whole run
lwk starly sweeping more then mawile
Which is why I'd say Mawile is an F tier Classic mon
i had it for the typing
The chances for it of being completely worthless is too high to ignore
ima go back and belive in starly sweep
Use Starly until you can get the Mawilite
yeah
there's a reason why I don't have Beedrill as my main mon in poison
decisions decisions
but the evil team was magma which uh hooo boy
Magma on a Mono Poison run is evil
also I think it's been 10+ runs and I haven't seen Skull or Star yet
that was just diabolical
I am not current carry is glimora ROFL
their not evil so it makes sense
here's hoping I find a water tera shard before wave 115!
Well, at least it can hit the Fire types
And abuse the Sun to hit Groudon harder
Since it does have Fiery Dance as an egg move
I do have it yea I think I have all four on glim?
but yea the vouchers I'm missing are uh those teams, drayden in wasteland, and SM E4 for Hala and Kikui
Honestly if Maxie instaswaps to Groudon you could maybe 2HKO with 2 Fiery Dances
maybe I did pick up a multi-lens
And probably gets an OHKO on Great Tusk
so I can probably grab more special attack boosts
As for Mega Camerupt I have no clue lmao good luck
Simply get Earth Power or something
I do have Weezing with scald at least
Turt hm
I was today years old when I found out that archaludon is only 60 kg
how
A legit steel ”golden gate” bridge is 60 kg
doesn't that weigh less than orbeetle does
yea dural is barely lighter but arc is heavier
a water/bug spider
made of "low kick begone-ium"
Still 80 power
or im getting confused
weights and heights tend to be more of a "this feels X when you're a kid" instead of accurate lol
Nope
does not
outside of ones where they go for accuracy and it sticks out like a sore thumb as a result like Mudsdale
Cosmoem being 999 kg
Cosmoem specifically I feel like they'd just have it's weight be either ??? or infinity if the format supported it
actually don't gigantamaxes have their weights as ??? for lore reasons
It says 999,9 kg so I assume that whatever is trying to measure its weight cant comprehend numbers above 1000
main series yea I believe GO can go over that though
In pokedex showdown it says ”0 kg” for the gmax’s which is kinda funny
Isnt cosmoem supposed to be like, the weight of the universe
It says 800 on showdown so theyre not particularly trying to be accurate
800 kg is still 13,3 times heavier than archaludon
weights in GO can be very swingy even before XXL/XXS are counted
Retaliate is really tough to deal with early game
yuh
mawile is goated
clutched up
i mean
best choice HAS to be pp max
red birb
meanwhile it does get really silly with XXL/XXS tho
Hi InACave... I'm Buvara
hi buvara
holy fucking shit
i forgot chansey gave a lot of exp
mawile is on life support rn
the goat has arrived
OK but Araquanid's large as hell
It’s still just a water spider
Araquanid's like 1.8m tall and you have to remember that this is its height, not its legspan
Its legspan is like
Why would it weigh more than archaludon
3m or something
U’ve got that correct
Archaludon is also like made of some super light alloy
Though it is light to a ridiculous degree
I'm pretty sure it's less dense than water
Interesting!
So if you tossed Archaludon into the ocean, it'd float
Cobalion is stronk
Is it?
Ew Endless
It has horrid attack
Another example
MY GOAT
Cobalion's attack isn't bad but it certainly isn't good
Pyroar
MY BELOVED
Just wanna try endless for once
Cobalion serves more of a support/wall purpose
Ima catch it for dex

I’m not finna use it
Female Lions are like 130 kg on average
So even pyroar is too light
W ability and nature
Most Pokemon are ridiculously light
this is my best roll ever on a wild not even joking
If you measure it like a cube, Wailord is less dense than air
i usually roll physical attackers on special
However, Wailord is not a cube
So it has to settle with being slightly denser than air
Take cosmoem for example
I feel like it’s supposed to be the weight of the universe
So 999,9 kilograms really underrepresents that
999.9 kg is the limit it seems
what shall duosion learn
So I can understand why Cosmoem caps at that
very hard decision
Now that i think abt it
Makes sense for there to be a limit
Since some moves rely on weight
Recover is always a good call on a bulky Pokemon
If Flamigo has 3 items and uses acrobatics how much base power would it have?
yuh
ima do a spin for recover or light screen
brb
Idk how Acrobatics works in Pokerogue
So I dunno lmao
All I know is that it isn't instantly 110 to 55 now
Idk how much 3 is
recover got rolled
Anyways ima keep praying for a shiny
apparently it's something like -20 per item down to the regular 55
Breh
so you have some mercy with it but still much worse than in vanilla
So I should have just kept wing attack😔
Kyogre is ridiculously small
i feel like mawile isnt the best startup
(Compared to its real world counterpart)
Kyogre weighs 352 kg, and has a listed height of 4.5m, likely referring to length
It’s hard to sweep with alakazam
Cus it’s really hard to set up without dying in 2 turns
The average male Orca weighs about 6000 kg
I have recover but sometimes that isn’t enough
And has a length of 7m
They can grow up to 9.8m long and reach a weight of 7500 kg
The way I see it Kyogre is surrounded
Tbh Kyogre probably gets mid diffed by a pod of Orcas
You can go to a random wiki page on a large sea creature
What would kyogre’s and groundon’s favorite country be
no cap
And chances are it will say something like
If kyorge can’t then Groudon would
"This creature has no natural predators... apart from the Orca"
It literally would melt every living being close to it
Great White Sharks?
Orca
Blue Whales?
Orca
Everything in the ocean gets eaten by Orcas
Idk man kyogre origin pulse probably kills most orcas
Also kyogre can fly
Do we forget that most legendary are gods basically?
I think that in canon most aquatic Pokemon probably can't actually float above the ground
Groudon and kyorge are titans
But I can see Kyogre being capable of flight
(I was joking about the Orca thing btw)
Like no shit the creator of the ocean beats the ocean animal
It's like saying Capital G God would lose to 1 billion lions
I feel like kyogre being capable of flight is also a way to compensate for groudon being able to traverse water
So that they can both reach each other in their own territory if that makes sense-
Groudon just evaporates the water around it or sum
But a billion lions is a lot of lions
Realistically though Groudon and Kyogre aren't quite as strong as some may think, with their world ending threat not due to raw strength but the fact that by existing they drastically change the climate
gameplay logistics and also Legendary
Yea
as for the lions it's still two meaningless numbers put up against one another
Just look at pokemon generations
I say this because the biggest feat we've seen in Pokemon is Mega Rayquaza destroying a meteorite that was calced to be a city buster
True
Episode 8 is basically kyogre sinking the entire world
I think they're also like lesser deities where they have innate powers to expand the land or oceans
Bro guys
And considering how base Rayquaza is, in canon, stronger than either Primal
Pokemon generations my beloved
and one of those numbers is a flat ??? which makes it even less relevant
By creating like massive typhoons that reach in the sky and vortexes
Do yall know the best evil team?
team yell obvs
How are you gonna expand the sky hows that work
That should mean that in terms of raw strength, neither Pdon nor Pogre are even city level
Make the stratosphere bigger
Let alone multi-continental like some may have you to believe
Groudon is essentially a kaiju
Duh
Oh of course
Yes
Groudon isn't that big right
It's 3.5m tall or 11 feet
Pokemon underplays most mon’s height and weight anyway
Unless we see feats of Groudon doing more the only thing we can even compare it to is Mega Rayquaza's city level feat
Primal groudon is 5m tall or 16 feet
And Primal Groudon is weaker than base Rayquaza
city level??? powerscaler spotted
There’s also this on one of his videos
Boundless++ level
Look, if you see someone so horrendous at powerscaling a franchise you love that it makes you cringe, the easiest way to solve it is to prove them wrong at their own game
Multiversal Bewear is a sick and twisted idea
That needs to be debunked
pikachu gave japanese kids seizures so its 4d with boundless ap
Yotam
holy shit staraptor is a demon💔
Oh of course
Maybe extending the ozonelayer further into space can work?
Let's all live in the sky 
Yez
Im not a geography guy tho (or whatever)
Team sky is the best (not) evil team
I'm gonna be real expanding the sky is such a meaningless phrase that by default Team Sky would be the best Hoenn Evil Team
Because like
Tf does expanding the sky even do
How do you even do it
Rayquaza
I mean yea
Maybe delta stream or smth
The stupidest shit is that Maxie and Archie are so brain damaged
Ngl team sky isn’t even evil he’s just a good guy lol
That they actually think that what they're doing will help humans and pokemon
After paldea he actually stopped tryna be “evil”
They think that they're the heroes
67 is hunting me.
That's what befuddles me
I don't think rayquaza even controls the sky like groudon and kyogre do the ground and earth
It's just a big lizard that hangs out high up
Yea that’s good
I think rayquaza rather protects space since that is where he hangs out
"Yeah this will help Humans and Pokemon"
Provided near earth of course
Archie seems stupider than maxie
yes
But that doesnt say a lot
That's the point they're stupid
This is like the stupidest plan in the franchise, only rivalled by reviving the space apocalypse dragon
Team flare tho
But at least that one had the slightest amount of thought put into it
At least it is solving an issue
An issue that won't happen for the next 1000 years
But an issue nonetheless
yo i got this right?
Cyrus?
What actually was the idea behind Team Aqua and Magma lmao
Yes
Cyrus kinda just wanted to destroy the universe because he's a jackass
But still team sky is the best team
reuniclus did infact tank 1 hit and shot
Because mikey
But he knows what destroying the universe does
He doesn't think he's doing some heroic action
He wanted a new universe for himself i think
He's the villain and he knows it
reuniclus so goated he doesnt give a fuck abt stat boost
Idk if that means destroying the current one
Volo confirms that it does
And there's probably also confirmation in DPP
I like Lusamine
The fuck?
Like the stupidest villains aren't the ones who have extremely fucked up plans and know it
Because that's the point of their plan
She's just kinda crazy and weird
They know what their end goal is
The stupidest villains are the ones who genuinely think their endgoal has a positive outcome for the world
Despite being world-ending
She’s fucking psycho
Pokemon generations episode 8 proves that
I think Rose would count as pretty stupid
Has 1000 years to do something, does it at the worst possible time for no reason
Like bro Archie what the fuck did you think would come from flooding the earth
When you have to cause an apocalypse in london on the day of a new champion battle because you're bored
my little bomb🥹
Rose is arguably smarter than Maxie and Archie
Because at the bare minimum, there is an issue he's trying to solve
Neat
Sorry for interrupting I'm hyped
Shame about the Attack IVs though
For real
Fuck I just saw that
But yeah no Maxie is probably the most stupid of the 3
yall
This is true
is there annihilape in pokerouge
Yea
"Hey you know that one resource that is necessary for living things to live?"
Sorry for spoiling jay
“Yea”
?
"Well, we don't need that, what we need is more space to build shit!"
nvm
If we make more land all the water will go underwater and then we can build more stuff 
Yes
aight
Also the only reason his plan fails is because he's an idiot and grabbed the wrong orb
The whole point is that archie and maxie are kind of stupid
OK but consider the following:
IF HIS PLAN WORKED WE'RE STILL DOOMED
Spoiling what?
HIS PLAN TO REMOVE ALL WATER IS JUST
This is true
Nothing I thought maybe you didn't want to see the red star shiny and I should have spoiler marked it
yall
do i masterball primape
No
Imagine chickening out because the mfs you've been bullying bring a massive fucking truck to run over you smh
I meeean
Massive skill issue
Wouldn’t u?
i wouldnt mess with them
Nah, I'd win
It’s a fucking alive truck
if they had common sense at least
Only reason we beat them in the game is bc they don’t run us over
why would u fight a kids pokemon with a fucking truck
Exactly
u could just run him over
They don't run us over because we beat the fuck out of their truck before they can
Yuh
But like
Why not instead of throwing other pkm out
also
And they're also just don't really want to run mfs over with their trucks
how does staraptor learn close combat
Just run them over as soon ss you see them
It was an intimidation tactic
does he like
That worked
I mean yea
Very well, actually
slap them with wings
So well that it gave every school staff amnesia or some shit
And made them forget that the mfs who are fleeing were bullies
Ong
But very accurate to real life
Yea
Punish the bullies?
Nah
Nah, we punish the victims instead
Yuh
🔥
Also, perhaps the best evil team soundtrack as a whole
The scarlet and violet soundtrack wasn't as great as some previous gen's imo
TF YOU MEAN?
THE MUSIC FOR VS THE AI PROF?
PENNYS BATTLE THEME!?
ZAWG THIS IS SOME OF THE BEST SHIT EVER
Idk I'd say the only one I could see myself putting higher is the Gen 5 OST
holy
Cool
the game is actually giving me physcal attack on physical attackers🥹
Rlly good ivs
I did like the area zero theme
Good speed and bulk
yeah
But every time I listen to penny's battle theme the only thing I can think of is cartoon plucking sound effect
Rlly?
Really
welome annhiliape
Hi annihilape
I feel like after the last game I played (antonblast) I'm gonna have to take a bit to start noticing stock cartoon noises again rofl
Neotornado did you see what I got
Current team
The team is purple
that linoone is so cool
I didn't get the tier 3 goliso on my own run but nice job on it
Golisopod is sickass
So Badass broo
I wish it didn't have Emergency Exit
Golisopod gets sabotaged so hard by Emergency Exit
Exactly
But Emergency Exit First Impression 
That helped me best ivys mega ray
10% chance to flinch with fosmigop
Flsmigo*
FLAMIGO FICK
FUCK
and with triple axel that’s 30% I think?
Damn, 5 Pokeballs helped you best Mega Ray?
Bro wasn't even traded
i got shadow ball on reuniclus
weezing is just a "yo i cant take down this one" pokemon
hold on
my luck turning around
Dire Claw, AKA gambling
Dire claw is op
50% for one of 3 Status effects, 60% of the time that status is Poison, 20% of the time it's Sleep and the other 20% is Paralysis
if only i had a poison heal gliscor
The reason why it's coded that way is likely to prevent multiple statuses from proccing at once and prolonging the turn length
Yea yea ik
And it does make a difference in odds from 30% Poison, 10% Sleep, 10% Paralysis
NO WEEZING DONT DO IT
u were a good group of balls weezing😔


weezing be like
dw
his sacrifice wont be in vain💔
nvm😔
Fuck you volcorona
i lost
i hate fire types
Little bitch ass moth
If you slander Volcarona again I will +6 Fire Blast yo ass
YOU DIRTY CLANKER
if only i didnt missclick to double team instead of aerial ace🥀
What if I just use sum that 4x resist
And have flash fire
Then I click another move idk
open bets on what is gonna hatch from this 4 eggs
Uhhh
With skill link ability
holy specific
3 Larvesta and an Iron Moth frfr
Kill all larvaesta
i would happily take iron moth
volcarona wasnt a clanker
im gonna get revenge on it dw
Manifesting Quiver Dance Egg Move Iron Moth
Ddint let me heal so I got sweeped by guzma
It literally did
You just have skill issue and forgot to heal
It didn’t
MY WEEZING HAS REINCARNATED🥹
I've gotten that event many times and it always allows you to heal if you don't do that
For a lil to do homework
That's a you issue lmao
Then when I came back it forced me into the next wave
It should have just reset the battle
I never chose an item
Are you sure you didn't just forget like a goober
Because I have definitely been allowed to heal after that battle on multiple occasions
Depends on what you plan to bring
def planning with starly
What other egg moves do you have on your Pokemon
So I lost my run
it did NOT disappoint last run
Is that all u have?
Wait whose Volcarona even was that? Chili?
i never got far with fuecoco
Tbh I would not pick Wingull with Fuecoco
wingull is def coming
Torch song + multi hit item
Pelipper actively sabotages Fuecoco
Fire combo
lmao
Damn
Multi Lens is too inconsistent imo
I messan
Why's that
Meaaan
Doesn't it just guarantee and extra hit
+2 special attack
I like never get it in my runs
But if u do def give it to skeledirge
You’ll always get a +2 special increase
But if you get it that's huge
Splicers kinda suck
My main carry is a Close Combat spammer
So it's worthless anyways
Worse than worthless
(staraptor)
Actively run throwing
do i take koffing in honor of weezing that destiny bonded volcarona
Ngl is it bad that I consistently use the same 3-4 pkm?
i have 5 points left
Depends on if it works
do they work
It does
If it doesn't, yes, it is bad, use something that does work
then no
My consistent team recently is
If they do work then I don't see why it's bad
lwk
- cloyster
i wanna bring mankey
I've been running Tapu Fini, Prankster Sableye, Pickup Aipom and Pickup Linoone on all my runs
The only thing that ever changes is the Pokemon I'm using as the main carry
And ig the 6th slot if I can afford it
first time i see sableye being used
That team alone solos the game so there's no pressure for my main carry to perform well
Heck, Fini alone solos the game
Fini is busted
dang
But yeah I need to know what your unlocks are to know what's good to bring
i might as well take croagunk
Lati
I might start a. New classic run should I use fini?
horsepower🥀
Fini's only really top tier if you have the bottom 2 egg moves, Recover and Quiver Dance
bouta rock with ts trust
You can use it to get candy for egg moves though
What egg moves?
none i just started
wait actually
croagunk has dire claw
Lati should I use u
Because if so that's insane
0 unlocks 🥀
I don’t use any legends sadly
(No lmao)
They use to much cost
egg
Hmmm I wanna use pkm I’ve never used
OK so what egg move does it have?
flip turn
Bedroll?
I see, I see
Beedrill*
Ngl a bit of a lame egg move since U-Turn is just better
Maybe I can get mega beedrill?
deadass💔
You're going to want to have Hydration on Wingull
My egg moves on beedrill
That way Pelipper will have Drizzle upon evolution
my mons cant even mega evolve
Without Drizzle, Pelipper is worthless
tbh
Catch one that can
I would not run Beedrill personally
Beedrill has the same issue as Mawile
It sucks ass before Mega Evolving
Mega beedrill is a fucking nuke
And you can never guarantee mega evolution
It has thousand arrows and attack order
If you really want to run Beedrill, you need to be prepared to carry it through the game until you can get Beedrillite
Ok
AKA: You need a team that wins without Beedrill
And if you're building a team that wins without Beedrill, why bring Beedrill instead of a Pokemon that makes the team more consistent?
Idk
The only way to make Beedrill have non 0 worth before Mega Evolution is to get Victory Dance, its Rare Egg Move
To get more vouchers if I win?
Tbh I edited the word non into that sentence because I accidentally said that's the only way to make it 0 worth
mawile genuely clutched up multiplle times without the mega
But if I'm being real, saying that it's the only way to make it 0 worth may not be entirely false
Since Beedrill invites TM moves that it can learn
And if nobody else can learn it, that's a wasted item
In that sense, Beedrill is, quite literally, worth less than nothing
Do I fuse Staraptor and Luxray, chat?
may as well
It may just be early game but fury cutter beedrill is rlly strong
I’m not even using rock smash thousand arrows nor attack order
Fury cutter early game is pretty nice since the damage boost carries over between fights
Yea
After 3 turns it caps out at 160 base power
WHICH IS REALLY FUCKING STRONG
but I might get rid of it late game bc beedrill is rlly frail especially mega
Does it get a lil tankier or just more frail?
Also since it has thousand waves and rock smash it has flying and rock coverage
Has the same bulk but is much faster and stronger
150 attack and 145 speed
Fucking nuts
I BETTER get beedrillite
Drillshots
Bruh
My streak of fury cutter got ruined bc it missed
95 base accuracy
Augh
That's the downside
You need a wide lens on it
Increases the accuracy to 100 I think
Yea
But holy fuck am destroying with it
Fury cutter is broken
It’s basically 180 base power after 3 turns with stab
And 3 turns isn’t a lot
Also I have golden punch and scope lenses
So I hit crits more often
And get money based off half of my dmg
Beeg money
The main issue with using Fury Cutter is that the random Pokemon you find around the area aren't problems
Once you get into a trainer battle, Fury Cutter's power resets
And a 40 BP move on a Beedrill is less than ideal
Since Beedrill's a Pokemon that, if it can't OHKO a Pokemon that hits it neutrally, will be 2HKOd or OHKOd in return
Ok
So I should switch it out for poison jab?
Yea I’ll do it
Should I try and get or nah
Do you like mewtwo?
Mewtwo is certainly that but also it's definitely gonna have a high cost
Flamigo and zigzagoon
oh I get the idea behind garbodor's shiny now
kind of a creative way to go about it, lil' gemstones
(or glass depending on how you see it)
oooh man the tera blast TM we ballin
hoping for a really funny tera type before wave 115
(also found a second multi-lens so fiery dance becomes a good boosting move)
o
the forbidden EXP share...
also right i'm home so I can make my TGC live deck not terrible by checking out decks since the game is a lot worse than pocket TGC at telling you what things are
uh
I might not be familiar with tera shell but does it cancel all type matchups?
because that poliwrath's random earth power just bonked off glimmora rofl
It makes every move do resisted damage
aaah nice
Except for moves the user is immune to
so that is a meaningful difference over multiscale here because x4 goes down to 1/2 now
But that isn't relevant to Glimmora, who is immune to nothing
I think the biggest difference between Multiscale and Tera Shell is that Tera Shell is far more useful against moves you're weak to
knew this was gonna be worth
Some bring up how Tera Shell does nothing against already resisted moves and say Multiscale is better for that reason
But if you already resisted the move, you didn't need to halve its damage anyways
That t2 shiny looks so gud
unless it's on something that's already sending you to the shadow realm regardless of resistances but multiscale isn't gonna help there either
If you're weak to a move, halving its damage is far less effective than slashing it down to a quarter of what it should be
oh I guess that does make the Enigma berry far worse in pokerogue's context now that I think about it, at least in this run
then again EB really only feels relevant in endless anyway
Glimmora doesn't really have the bulk to take SE hits anyways
It isn't a very bulky Pokemon
I'd only feel comfortable in front of an SE hit if I have like at least 100/90 bulk, and preferably a lot more
I think my border's probably 75/75 before I start calling something on the frail side
and usually if it's 60/60 then that's when I start throwing around the phrase "wet paper towel" lol
Fraudraludon has 70/50 bulk
70/115/50 yea
which is why sometimes it's worth it to just go hog on Raihan's if you got like earth power or aura sphere
I dont care how much Defence you have
If you have 70/50 special bulk you will be mocked
I would say "I mean it's like okay" but then I look at avalugg who has +25 HP for only -4 special defense
and also has 184 defense
Amaura, Shellos, Chinchou, Spritzee, Grimer
All bulkier on the special side than Duraludon
the pre-evos intended to be bulky yea
How do you have 535 BST and a Steel/Dragon typing and still be worse than Bug/Flying Scyther and 430 BST Gligar
(Rhetorically)
what happens when you waste some of those points on a 95 attack stat you're not gonna be doing anything with
And also end up with an awkward 85 speed tier
That's like
Not good enough to actually outspeed shit
too fast for trick room, too slow to actually be fast
But not bad enough to use Trick Room
the sourspot speed that's like... 71-94 I'd say, probably more like 61-99
And then it has similar special bulk to Darumaka
actually it shares physical bulk with klawf who only has 5 more special defense
Which is why nobody uses Klawf
But at least Klawf is like an early game derp of a boss
THIS IS THE ACE OF THE 8TH GYM LEADER
MEANT TO RIVAL THE UNDEFEATED CHAMPION'S CHARIZARD
you sound pissed
But hey, it's better than Charizard at least!
It's called shittalking Pokemon for fun
Nah I like being overdramatic
meanwhile I don't
if I did then I'd probably spend my time just thinking of reasons why all of the pokemon I like suck because there's no shortage of reasons why pokemon like leafeon or drifblim belong in the trash of Unusable
actually my bad I do have one pokemon that's disappointed me enough to talk crap about and that's spiritomb rofl
It's less fun to say "Hoopa Unbound struggles due to its low Physical Bulk and Speed" than "Poopa Unwiped has the physical bulk of a lion cub and the worst Speed tier known to Mon"
but even that's more "it's good as a "get out of ORAS wally" free card but can't do much but that"
I mean the former is something I certainly appreciate a lot more lol
Well I guess it's slightly more bulky than the lion cub
It's more comparable to...
Grimer?
Again?
Well welcome back Grimer
like I could say "leafeon's special bulk is bad" or I could also say "stick fox takes hits about as well as as a walking pepper and does about as good of a job at being outclassed by venusaur
...and gligar, herdier, and persian now that I look at the list lol
That's 2 Pokemon with very disappointing bulk that Grimer is very comparable to
actually frick it
Grimer's physical and special bulk sits at 80/50
Duraludon's special bulk is 70/50 while Poopa Unwiped's Physical Bulk is 80/60
but then again I'd still rather trust duraludon on a physical attacker than vivillon on a specal attacker rofl
Why is Hoopa's stat spread so ass, actually
because as far as I'm actually concerned the real reason why I'd still use vivillon anyway is because it's available far ealier in the game
680 BST and it uses it like that