other-pokemon-games

[sweet crypt]

Ease of obtainability is a big one since otherwise I'll get 50 million people answering with Miraidon, Koraidon, Calyrex, Kyogre etc

[celest light]

Amoongus or incinaroar

[sweet crypt]

I dont think it'd be Incineroar, he's too much of a fraud in Singles

Amoonguss maybe but it can't do much apart from be defensive and defensive Pokemon are generally not as useful casually compared to challenge runs or competitive

Because Pokemon is easy if you aren't giving yourself 50 restrictions so you can just use any other Pokemon to win quicker

[celest light]

Then your never gonna find a true allrounder
Pokemon that can be amazing in a challenge run are detrimental in others
Doubles and singles are so different theres never gonna be consistency
And having ease of access being a keypart as well

Your never gon a have any one answer

Unironically the best might be miraidon/kiraidon cause your guranteed one in the game they come from

The only space i think incin is bad in is singles at a high level though
Which.i honestly think is by design

I think gamefreak wants some starters to always be at least a bit good in the vgc

[sweet crypt]

Idk with that logic it's easily Calyrex, no?

[celest light]

One of those three probably

Or 4

[sweet crypt]

They also sell hard when it comes to obtainablity since they're so late game

Ig technically you can get Calyrex pre gym

At least I think so

Since the DLC is accessible as soon as you reach Wedgehurst

But like

That's silly

And also in that case it loses hard to Kyogre

[narrow pine]

I mean its kinda cheating. But I guess I gotta say Eevee.

Almost always available, you can evolve it into one of eight typings depending on what you need/want and usually pretty strong. Even the lesser evos are pretty good for standard play and have good competitive niches somewherez

If Baton Pass was still legal. Espeon would be one of the best OU Pokemon as its been documented

[sweet crypt]

Idk, there's like 3 Eeveelutions above PU

Or was it 4

But that's a pretty low bar

Especially since "above PU" usually means like

NU

Or PUBL

I have 0 clue how they perform in VGC

But I have heard Flareon is equally worthless there

And also just bad for challenge runs

Since you can get like any other eeveelution

And it'd likely be better

Flareon's kinda just a very sad Pokemon

Probably about as sad as Tapu Bulu

Considering how utterly outclassed it is by Tapu Rilla

[narrow pine]

Yeah but gen 9 Power creep also has mons like Snorlax in untiered I don’t think that’s a high bar anymore

[sweet crypt]

Yeah but I think the Eeveelutions have had like at most 3 collective deserved OU placements

And also a bunch of undeserved ones

Mostly from Jolteon

[smoky gyro]

What the heck\

[devout crag]

what is that supposed to be

would it just be malamar vs malamar

[smoky gyro]

Pokemon Showdown's logo

They changed it for some reason

[devout crag]

fr😭?

lol they did

ah yes their not letting me change team

[modern oar]

I will not tolerate you insulting the Eeveelutions.

[devout crag]

is bro just wasting my time

yeah they did

[modern oar]

That's not very nice of them.

[devout crag]

yeah

they werent that smart tho

sent garchomp and used dragon claw on my clefable

[modern oar]

That person I don't think knows much about Pokemon, so that might be why they were taking so long.

[devout crag]

took them longer then i showed

i waited like 2 more mins before putting the timer

was he like looking on google or sum

[smoky gyro]

I got myself the randbat cheat code mon

[young spire]

my pokerogue run just screwed by clown... my charizard is now fire grass...

my excadrill losing his steel typing... sad

[smoky gyro]

Bro killed himself lmao

[unkempt egret]

establishing the proper pecking order among the oricorio forms

[smoky gyro]

Can you infinite loop with dancer

I never tested it

Like what happens if 2 dancer mon is on field and one clicks quiver

[lavish dune]

KING KRAB

if i hit it, its dead, but WILL i hit it?

[unkempt egret]

Minimize Moment

at least it's grimer so the most dangerous thing it has back is probably like... mud bomb?

[celest light]

sylveon has some play and jolteons had its uses

thats
the most notible thing goin for the eveelutions is 2 of them have had some niche play

[simple quartz]

This why Eeveelution is the best in PIF

You can just basically redeem them by giving an extra type/more expansive movepool

[lavish dune]

nah it couldnt hit me at all

[unkempt egret]

yea in-game there's a lot useful but I'm assuming they're talking about comp

in which case it's many things like abilities and dual types being more emphasized as the series goes on but generally boils down to "ran the frick over by the power creep in gen 6" and "baton pass either being banned (unofficial) or given far wider distribution (official)"

in terms of comp they're very much Skill Gate Mons outside of niche cases from what I recall (such as espeon getting use in lower tiers because they're that desperate for any way to deter entry hazards rofl)

[lavish dune]

i was hilariously unprepared for this fight

sandslash was paralyzed too

i highly doubt i make it out of this level

i got hit with the 10% discharge paralyze and it fucked my run, lost to clemont

[unkempt egret]

yikes, rip

(also discharge is 30% right?)

[lavish dune]

thought it was 10 like flamethrower and ice beam

one sec

[unkempt egret]

wow my brain just had a hideous idea

[unkempt egret]

are you thinking of Thunderbolt? I know thunderbolt is 10%

[lavish dune]

indeed i was

just checked

[unkempt egret]

yea discharge is more like Lava Plume

[lavish dune]

even then tho, still sucks

[unkempt egret]

also my brain's hideous idea was to make Wallace a poison expert in this hack instead of a water one

[lavish dune]

ewwwww

[unkempt egret]

I should probably add some forshadowing since no other trainer changes type like that one does

(the hack's gimmick is that every pokemon has had their type changed)

in wallace's case I thinkfully did have a 600 BP poison type in... salamence.

who's secondary type is now bug for added comedy of just having a final boss's ace be bug/poison

[lavish dune]

least its still weak to rock

this was ever so slightly terrifying

[unkempt egret]

I know I did change the type chart up a bit in the usual ways

(making water weak to poison, buffing ice to be an actual defensive type since it lacks things like aurora veil and snowscape, whacking steel's resistances to grass and bugwaitwhat)

past me also gave psychic a dragon resistance?

I think the only actual offensive one I added was the poison -> water one though

[lavish dune]

wouldnt poison being weak to water make more sense because dilution?

[unkempt egret]

I was thinking more like pollution there

[lavish dune]

maybe it goes both ways

[unkempt egret]

it's an odd thing

amusingly enough I could make it go both ways without unbalancing things

poison's defense goes from 4/2 to 4/3 and water's offense goes from 3/4 to 4/4 (ice got a water resist)

[lavish dune]

i always thought it was weird ice/water had no type interactions

[modern oar]

Water resisted Ice.

[lavish dune]

does it?

oh yeah freeze-dry

thats why that exists

[modern oar]

I know the type chart.

[lavish dune]

ok

[unkempt egret]

as a side note abilities got shuffled too but I've made sure most of the gimmick abilities have been accounted for

(some that can't be changed like Shedinja or Castform get to keep what they had, but others have had their stats changed to accomodate like medicham getting some boosts to make up for not having pure power anymore, while nosepass got some slight drops since it now has it)

[unkempt egret]

actually my bad I guess I can change another trainer into a specialist they weren't before

then again changing maxie from "team rocket with a camerupt" to "ground expert" isn't too much of a stretch. does also make it so you're not just fighting two fire trainers in a row

...actually yea I think the only time maxie's been shown with more than just camerupt for fire has been a houndoom in the manga apparently, otherwise he's more associated with poison since he got a second poison type in ORAS

[whole verge]

lmfao im playing pokemon insurgence with a randomizer, and its randomizing, everything! get this, i beat the tournament at the school and i was supposed to win a return TM, but i got the complete opposite lmao, i got frustration,

[sweet crypt]

It's likely they just left

[devout crag]

it wouldve forfeit the match tho

unless he just changed window

[sweet crypt]

You can leave without forfeiting

And it is extremely common in low to mid ladder

[devout crag]

fuckass thinks i dont have time to waste

[worldly dome]

Just curious, does anyone happen to have a black or white game with the weather trio? Im trying to complete a semi living dex on black 2 and I have no access to the dream radar

[lavish dune]

steel wormadam or mothim

oh fuck now theres a decision

[brisk hedge]

How many Pokeballs do you have?

[lavish dune]

i think
17 pokeballs
3 great
1 ultra

so theres not much of use

the team is decent so i might not need the upgrade right now

[lyric radish]

that cybertruck wont do too well i recomend replacing it

[lyric radish]

fuck the balls never pick balls over a strength upgrade

[lavish dune]

porygon z has done me INCREDIBLY well before, as he has flamethrower egg move

[lyric radish]

thers no real threat that need a fire move or a normal typing i mean the type coverage is nice but there are stronger options

[lavish dune]

candy jars get out of hand so far

fast*

[lyric radish]

but alot of runs never see one let alone 2

i had so many i was always above the next lvl cap on my carry

[lavish dune]

is giving metagross explosion as a last resort a good idea or nah

[lyric radish]

just dont give him the move "last resort"

but i would say no

[lavish dune]

nah last resort takes too long to use to be useful

[lyric radish]

exactly xd

but i dont think metagross can use explosion as a last resort since hes low speed makes him move last in most encounters

[lavish dune]

true

though, he can learn trailblaze for whatever reason

[lyric radish]

tf

i mean you would then have to setup just to die...

instead of dealing constant dmg over time

[lavish dune]

ykw, maybe rogue balls was the right choice

[lyric radish]

nah 17 pokeballs will do the trick 🙂

[lavish dune]

could use it as a finisher if an opponent just barely survives to get that little boost of speed

[lyric radish]

if you dont catch him just reload the page and kill it

[lavish dune]

...huh.

[lyric radish]

and how offen does that happen where you would want your mon dead dont forget revives are more expensive then potion money wise too

[lyric radish]

no need for the rogue balls see ;D

[lavish dune]

i used a rogue ball dingus

you got here like an hour late i chose the balls

[lyric radish]

xd

i was watching GOT dont judge me

[lavish dune]

well now im judging you harder

[lyric radish]

XD

i dont see the problem

[lavish dune]

but eh, doesnt matter, i got a rotom mow a while ago so this is mostly a new form

[lyric radish]

new form is still solid

and you got better ivs

29 spdef and 29 atk is not bad since they are now permanent for your starting rotom too

[lavish dune]

and a neutral nature, which isnt terrible if i have a -spd or -spa

[lyric radish]

yeah

[lavish dune]

idk, ive never looked at him really

the only rotom i like is regular

[lyric radish]

the worst one 💀

[lavish dune]

isnt that fan?

[lyric radish]

no...

[lyric radish]

thats rotom-fan

[lavish dune]

what

[lyric radish]

the second worst one 🙂

[lavish dune]

what makes base rotom bad?

[lyric radish]

currently rotom fan's flying type does solid in the lower-mid tiers in competative

[lavish dune]

just for the coverage?

[lyric radish]

yeah

[lavish dune]

probably for tailwind and air slash

[lyric radish]

tailwind isent that much used but you have air slash on 99% of them

[lavish dune]

i just hope i get another snorlax, him 1v1ing 145 rayquaza made me like him even more

gotta get him ice punch or smth

[lyric radish]

almost any mon not weak to ray's moves can solo with right items

[lyric radish]

dont forget delta stream makes it only 2x effective

[lavish dune]

better than 1x

[lyric radish]

so dont think you will onetap mega ray

[lavish dune]

triple axel could if slushslash can get off a shift gear or two

[lyric radish]

true but it makes it equal to things like fairy

[lyric radish]

whats rival's starter

if its fire your fucked

[lavish dune]

empoleon, so kinda midrange

[lyric radish]

if not he will switch turn one and you get free shift gear

free shift gear turn one

[lavish dune]

if i get axel anyway

though icicle will do fine

[lyric radish]

meh icicle spear should also do if you get +2 mega ray wont be first thing he sends on a ice/steel mon unless your unlucky enougt for him to have V-create wich i THINK he may have i know he doesent always tho

[lavish dune]

yeah, steel/ice has a ton of resistances but when its weak its WEAK

though, if i get 2 shift gears, ill be faster without a doubt

[lyric radish]

fr

[lavish dune]

atp ill have +4 speed

[lyric radish]

the atk is what matters you would want to OHKO

if not you can be in BIG trouble

[lavish dune]

THESE GALLACTIC GRUNTS WONT PISS OFF LET ME SET UPPPP

[lyric radish]

ima sleep now ive been awake for 26 hours and not done anything but watch tv and play on my pc like the lazy fuck i am im going on a walk tmrw atleast xd

[lavish dune]

stab ice spear with +2 attack and multi hit should hit fine

[lyric radish]

by 195 you would also have tera ice if your lucky for the double stab

[lavish dune]

true true

then hes also gonna be built for eternatus

[lyric radish]

yeah thats why i use ice or steel for ray if i use fairy eturnatus' poison will kill me

[lyric radish]

but tera you have to be carefull you can only use on 1 of the 2 hardest waves being 195 and 200 i normaly use it on 195 but its all about how comfrable you are couse eturnatus WILL have flamethrower 100% of the time

[lavish dune]

good to know

porygon gets ice beam yea

[lyric radish]

Tbolt Flamethrower Icebeam and Triattack

insane coverage

[unkempt egret]

did they change tera since I last played?

[lyric radish]

depends on when you played last

[unkempt egret]

I remember you used to have whatever type the game gave you for 10 waves when you picked it during the reward screen

[lyric radish]

yeah you get it at like 145 for free now

[unkempt egret]

ah I see

[lyric radish]

but you still need crystal to change it wich is a drop

[unkempt egret]

also doing mon recolors and I love when a pallete goes from bad to just popping with a single color change

[lyric radish]

ye

[lavish dune]

its 115 or 95 im pretty sure

[unkempt egret]

it is kinda interesting to see how well I can convey the changed type with just the palette

[lyric radish]

charizard is prime example

[unkempt egret]

especially with some types where it can get a bit mixed like poison/psychic/ghost, bug/grass, and ice/flying

[lyric radish]

so yeah now im acctually going to sleep gn yall 😄

[unkempt egret]

nite!

[lavish dune]

rare candy gaming

sleep well

[unkempt egret]

o

also doesn't help that poison/ghost already showed up (raticate rolled it) so conveying that was just

well I tried lol

also I like how your only context on what tangela's is will be "it's brawly's ace the first time you see it"

it's secondary type isn't quite as obvious but at least it's /normal so you don't need to worry about it for gameplay

[lavish dune]

i wish it wasnt, holy hell this dude is ASS

[unkempt egret]

oh gosh clefable's I really need to come back to this one later

so does this look ||ground/dragon|| to you all because me thinks not lol

[lavish dune]

heyooo

[lavish dune]

looks more poison normal

[unkempt egret]

poison is an interesting idea but yea I do need to go back and adjust that one

I like sandslash's which hits like "kinda hinting at a secondary type but not really?

pure poison in this case

oh lorde ninetales has six unused color slots I should probably do something about that rofl

[lavish dune]

https://tenor.com/view/ill-take-your-entire-stock-gif-21941954

[lavish dune]

thank god the hail mary ball

[unkempt egret]

forgot I didn't have GIMP installed but after doing so this isn't that bad of a start

thank goodness for the color picker option

(ice/water in this case, still gotta do the latter and might make that a paler blue in the actual sprite editor)

[lavish dune]

can i please have a leaf stone

[unkempt egret]

rofl start hopin!

also looking at it with the blue it does kinda remind me a bit of castform's snowy form so I'll probably keep

[lavish dune]

hey thanks

[unkempt egret]

ok nice to know that it is possible to add that in but I'll also need to edit the second sprite (emrerald animations lol) to be consistent with the first palette-wise

[lavish dune]

i need a blue shiny thats NOT burmy

both evos are... just awful.

[lavish dune]

that is such a sad master ball

[lavish dune]

god she so rapidly goes from
"haha i lost"
to
"please come home"

met a giratina lady and she changed my pokemon into old ones

except

she managed to make all of them ones ive never had before

how in the god damn do you make an alolan sandslash into alolan execcutor

[opaque palm]

this is for a nuzlocke
what do i name him

[warm oasis]

Fart

[lavish dune]

what IS this

[lavish dune]

gangrene

[opaque palm]

beautiful

prof rowan has the AUDACITY to ask if im okay with that nickname

[lavish dune]

i beat my first platinum nuzlocke as my first playthrough a few weeks back

gangrene was my turtwig's name and i ended up naming them all after diseases

[opaque palm]

"ooo i just caught giratina!"

"your name is gonorrhea :)"

[lavish dune]

these types are wack

[lavish dune]

Klebsiella the Gyrados

Gangrene the Torterra

Tripolar the Magnezone

Frostbite the Glalie

Thrush the Toxicroak

And Paralysis the Raichu

i didnt have rare candies

grinding fuckin blows

[opaque palm]

pkhex

holy grail

[worldly dome]

Can anyone help with a semi living dex in bw2? I just need the forces of nature. So Tornadus, Thundurus, and Landorus

[lavish dune]

turns out, none of the platinum e4 can do much of anything against gyrados

so dragon dance return was the strat

if this is supposed to be my old pokemon, not getting regigigas is horse shit

[lavish dune]

true enough, but those graveler defense EVs saved me a few times

[modern oar]

EVs are pretty useful since they can help you survive a hit/KO a mon when you normally wouldn't.

[lavish dune]

YOU FUCKERS

GOD DAMNIT BUGGSY

oooo

I WANTED A SHINY

and my shinies arent shiny on this team

fuck. yeah.

new blue thats not burmy

[lavish dune]

that team was hot ass

[pine ingot]

I just realized something.. even though I'm severely late and got a 2ds a few days ago. I just realized since they stopped supporting the servers. Beating any pokemon game 100% is impossible without cheats because of pokemon that require trading to evolve.

[unkempt egret]

Legends Arceus might be an exception? not sure how trade evos are handled in that game

[pine ingot]

Im pretty sure that's a switch game. I meant 3ds and ds.

[unkempt egret]

yea for gens 1-7 yea

[pine ingot]

I should have clarified. That's my bad

[unkempt egret]

gens 1-3 you probably can by glitching but yea gens 4-7 are dicier

I think gen 4 might also have a variant on gen 3's glitch but I could be wrong on that

but yea you'd still be blocked by not just trade evos but also version exclusives (especially in gen 7 which has ||version-exclusive legendaries||)

[pine ingot]

One thing I miss that I remember in the sun and moon games is the sos battles where they call extra pokemon. Makes shiny hunting a bit easier

[lavish dune]

I don't have the patience for it ngl

[lavish dune]

this is gonna be an odd run

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress2-tf2-soldier-my-dear-god-dear-god-gif-16659739

[lyric radish]

did you lose?

[lavish dune]

ill keep you posted

moveset goes crazy tho

[lavish dune]

this do be the squad

[quasi dagger]

first pokerogue w

garganacl might be the greatest pokemon to ever be created

[lavish dune]

i havent won yet unfortunately

[lyric radish]

boring ahh team

[lyric radish]

its a pokemon for pussies

[quasi dagger]

once you get a good sweeper you should be good

[quasi dagger]

didnt know i'd be triggering people with garganacl tonight

[lyric radish]

xd nah but just salt cure then hide behind iron defense...

its a no skill strategy

[lavish dune]

use regigigas like a man

[quasi dagger]

i dont have regigigas and iron defense didnt really do anything tbf

i kinda just clicked stone edge after salt cure

[lavish dune]

is there any point in reducing cost past 1

i have like 50 alolan shrew candies

item evos happen immediately or not at all

[lyric radish]

yes

you can reduce any mon 2 times

the lowest a mon can go to is from 1->0.25

[lavish dune]

this makes me incredibly happy

[lyric radish]

W

[lavish dune]

https://tenor.com/view/officialx2-wailmer-wailmer-my-beloved-my-beloved-heart-gif-21693629

[lavish dune]

anything less than 1 just seems like an inconvenient number

incredibly threatening to catch, incredibly hard to not just one shot

yeah its dead

[open condor]

what is the game shown in these screen shots

[lyric radish]

pokerogue @open condor

[open condor]

....the difficult one?

[lyric radish]

wdym

i mean it has the reputation to be one of the most difficolt pokemon games of all time but thats only the first few times you play when you are as experienced as me have played lets say a week you should get your first win if your good with strategies and have good pokemon knoledge but after that its not that hard its just the first few runs that are hard

[celest light]

In short
Yes one of the difficult ones

[open condor]

i

see

[lyric radish]

not if you arent skill issued...

its fully possible to beat it on your first try ever people have done it so many times its a built in challenge

[celest light]

Dawg
Objectively it’s still a challenging hard to do thing
Becoming good at a thing doesn’t remove that it is

Being obnoxious about what’s essentially “not having learnt yet” also doesn’t prove anything

[lyric radish]

if you have common pokemon knoledge and can read its not that difficult i would call the OG gen 1 games harder even and pokerogue takes less time to beat then any of the others even when you include stuff like skill issue becouse the amout of time you need grinding in the other games when it comes to the hard figth if youve played rigth saved money and chosen good items pokerogue really isent a chellange

[sweet crypt]

You're tripping, the base Pokemon games are definitely easier than Pokerogue

At least Pokerogue can be somewhat challenging when you're new to it

Base Pokemon's difficulty is consistently low

[lyric radish]

aint no way sure the remakes like lets go are easy but pokemon red is a fking nightmare

[celest light]

Ive never had a single issue I. Evrry Pokémon game I’ve ever played

Hell people say some of the newer base games are harder to nuzlocke then the old ones

[lyric radish]

yeah maybe to nuzzlock but thats couse after sword and shield routes have goten weird ruinening their encounters

[sweet crypt]

I can confirm from trying to map out a USUM Nuzlocke that yes, it definitely deserves the reputation as the hardest games to nuzlocke

I still have 0 clue wtf I'm gonna do vs Araquanid

[lyric radish]

USUM isent even that bad...

[celest light]

But
Every base game combined I unironically found this is harder on a first play through then any base game

[lyric radish]

UM was the worst one of the 2 but still only took a couple weeks to nuzzlock

[sweet crypt]

If you enforce hardcore nuzlocke rules properly it's literally impossible

[lyric radish]

pokerogue isent made to be beaten first try tho its meant to grind out good starters then beat it

[sweet crypt]

As it turns out you cannot 1v1 a Popplio with a Litten

Or a Litten with a Rowlet

Or a Rowlet with a Popplio

There literally has to be a clause made specifically to make that possible

[lyric radish]

ye but the rules have been edited couse of this and those are the rules i would say counts

[celest light]

I’m talking about PIF there

[sweet crypt]

And even after that the game's still difficult

[celest light]

Not rouge

[lyric radish]

PIF was free??

[sweet crypt]

If you don't get the 30% Zorua encounter, then the only wincon for Ultra is toxic stalling and sacrifices

Because Bisharp sure as fuck isn't 1v1ing

[celest light]

And I still found it’s hard stuff harder
Then every base game in Pokémon’s entire life cycle

[sweet crypt]

When it's taking 70% from Dragon Pulse

And like I said, Totem Araquanid sounds like an actual nightmare to deal with

[celest light]

This is the first game that ever made me plan out before a fight for Pokémon not counting other fan games

[sweet crypt]

I can't imagine I'll be beating the USUM nuzlocke quicker than the Pokerogue one

[celest light]

Other then the new one k havent played

[sweet crypt]

That said I literally fucking

Have Eternatus

Which you can only get once catching everything in the game

[celest light]

Honestly I need a new fun fan game to play

[sweet crypt]

And trivialises everything, even in the nuzlocke if you conserve PP properly

[celest light]

Pifs fun but I’m at the “random challenge run time) stage of the game

[sweet crypt]

I dont think Pokerogue is hard though even if it is harder than most, if not all of the mainline Pokemon games

I mean the first time I beat Pokerogue I didn't even have any egg moves or anything

I just had a starter, a Garganacl and a dream

Well, multiple starters

But shh

[vital flare]

Uranium is good has nuzlock mode plus randomizer if you beat the game

[celest light]

Is it a fan game or rom?

[vital flare]

Fangame

[unkempt egret]

ah so that's how memory light works, interesting

also darkrai really is just scared_hamster.gif* at yanmega EX huh

[unkempt egret]

ok now this is just silly

[lyric radish]

now thats a bug

its supposed to say 100+ on hydra bazooka since it CAN deal more

[lavish dune]

https://tenor.com/view/hose-fail-splash-gif-10742502

[delicate hollow]

How to max happiness for evolutions?
Easy you just fight low level wild mons and run around aimlessly and talk to the happiness checker NPC

[pastel gull]

A new dex to complete

[lavish dune]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-nerd-yelling-insult-gif-7884166

[lavish dune]

this little dude is gonna be a MONSTER

[lavish dune]

oh BABY hell yeah

[lavish dune]

this dude gonna be a bastard

[unkempt egret]

ok so I can... slightly expand the moves I can put in this rando by just removing moves that are either too specific (spider web), gimmicky (stockpile's 3 moves) or just... bad in their debut gen (water/mud sport)

[lavish dune]

idk if i got lucky or unlucky

[terse pollen]

Man pokerogue is so hard

Every time I think I have a good team I get my ass thoroughly handed to me

[terse pollen]

Damn that's a crazy team, unlucky because you have a wormadam but lucky because you won in the end lmao

[lavish dune]

Beggars can't be choosers

Gave sandslash terra flying tho to completely reverse it's weaknesses if need be

[lavish dune]

wave 160, closing in on my PB

[terse pollen]

Wow nice! I haven't even gotten past 140 yet

[lavish dune]

THATS PB BABY

[modern oar]

I have played Pokerouge before, but I just don't care much for it since it's not the battle format I like.(Doubles)

[lavish dune]

double battles are pretty common in it tho?

[modern oar]

When I played it was only single battles.

Other than the wild battles.

[lavish dune]

most trainers are singles yeah but theres a fair few doubles for trainers too

[modern oar]

I'd like it to have an option at least to where you can do trainer battles in the doubles format before I play again.

[lavish dune]

well, good luck with that\

[modern oar]

But either way, I'd rather play literally anything other than Pokerogue.

[lavish dune]

ok

[terse pollen]

Congrats!

Any advice for a newbie like me stuck at 140?

[lavish dune]

whats the squad youre rockin?

also, feel free to ping me, otherwise i aint gonna see shit

[terse pollen]

bet

[terse pollen]

For example this team that I just started a run with

[lavish dune]

ha, goldfish

[terse pollen]

Wishiwashi is kinda bad but I'm mostly farming candies

That is indeed a goldfish

[lavish dune]

wishi can be solid, using their signature ability

honestly, starters are overrated

can i see your roster of starter choices?

[terse pollen]

Sure

There's quite a lot though

[lavish dune]

like, my starting team is

alolan shrew
bellsprout
burmy
eggsecute
Litleo
and im trying some new things with hisuian voltorb

entei is a good choice, obviously

[terse pollen]

I've got a rotom with a passive but I'm kinda sick of using rotom ngl

[lavish dune]

btw, those pink squares, they mean theyll give your team pokerus

[terse pollen]

Oh awesome

[lavish dune]

snorlax can be an incredible wall and even 1v1 some super bosses

[terse pollen]

Every time I start with a munchlax I don't make it far 😭

[lavish dune]

jesus youve gotten a good few legends, guzzlord would be incredible

[terse pollen]

Yeah but the problem is I kinda suck at the game

So even with good pokemon I get my butt kicked

[lavish dune]

10 waves left

[terse pollen]

DAMN

That's badass

[lavish dune]

you say that, but i had to fight this asshole 4 times to get the strat down

honedege is a good pick

solid defensive typing and good offense

id say take guzzlord, wishiwashi, and the pig shiny unless you have any different shinies

just hard carry with guzzlord as long as you can, by then your team should be passable

[terse pollen]

I'll try that, thank you

Any advice on how to catch good mons further into the run? All the pokemon I catch in the wild always have shit ivs

[terse pollen]

I thought this was your personal best

[lavish dune]

yea, you can refresh scum if youre feeling particularly impatient

[lavish dune]

genuinely, i just hail mary and throw a ball turn 1

[terse pollen]

Just catch any pokemon?

[lavish dune]

i make a point of not doing it before i get to my previous best tho

anything i want, yea

[terse pollen]

I see

I'll try that, thank you very much for your advice

[lavish dune]

best of luck to ya

[unkempt egret]

think of catching wild mons as an OHKO that... sometimes works

[lavish dune]

i do it to kill bosses that freak my out sometimes

[celest light]

imgonna guess theres no non romhacks that have all pokemon

[lavish dune]

Probably not

[sweet crypt]

HA Tyrunt is interesting, I remember using one to carry my mono rock run up to the final boss where Tta steps in

What egg moves do you have on it?

Out of your legendaries, I'd imagine the best is Keldeo

In general it has one of the best stat spread of all your legendaries, and a good type too albeit with one bad MU vs some major bosses (though all you other legends have at least 1 bad MU as well)

And it starts with its signature move Secret Sword, which is the best special Fighting move, Keldeo being a special attacker

While getting Bubble Beam at level 7, so it's set for all of early game

That said, at this stage of the game, a majority of legendaries are not worth their costs

The only legendaries that I could see consistenly reaching the final boss with minimal upgrades are the Paradox Cyclizars, Zacian and possibly also Kyogre

And the final boss forces the former 3 to Tera

Though if you get decent item luck and the Calm Mind TM, Miraidon then solos the boss after Terastalising

[subtle depot]

Is that the real latios?

[smoky gyro]

Yall got any ideas on how I should build M. Venu?

Do I go phys bulky (252 hp 252+ phys def) or just embrace the special stats (252 sp atk+ 252 sp def)

Its delta venu for the record from insurgence

Which is psychic fairy and mega has special moxie

[lyric radish]

yeah that sounds like a spatk but sounds really weak to most spatk moves by the typing so maybe go hp spatk? to get that physical def but not be onetap to spatk moves

[sweet crypt]

Depends on if you're on a Showdown server with the Deltas or not

Because if you aren't you don't need to worry too much about it

But if you are you may want to ask people more experienced with the Insurgence meta

[smoky gyro]

Just for story

I know ivs and evs dont matter I just like doing it

Or more like my ocd will kill me if I dont

[sweet crypt]

Pick either one tbh

[smoky gyro]

Cause I really dont think you need to build sp def when calm mind is a thing

[sweet crypt]

Both should work

Building PhysDef also helps if you want to use another Mega for a specific battle, assuming you managed to get your hands on its Hidden Ability

Because Regenerator is Regenerator

Though you probably wouldn't

I can't remember the odds

But they aren't high

[smoky gyro]

Isn't it just impossible

Like main game pokemon

You can only breed it, receive it, or ability patch it

[sweet crypt]

I could've sworn you can definitely get HAs in Insurgence

[smoky gyro]

I gotta look that up a later time

[sweet crypt]

I know for a fact ability patches aren't a consideration

Since Insurgence was made before even Gen 7, I think

OK yeah there's a held item from Musharna in a lategame area that allow you to change to a HA if you give it to a certain NPC

[noble zealot]

Finally

[lyric radish]

what do i do?

[lyric radish]

@sweet crypt sorry for the ping but i have no clue what to do with the zacian im on like wave 20 but have such good moves

[sweet crypt]

Mighty Cleave is better offensively but Bitter Blade is better for longevity

Replace one or the other with SD

I'd definitely keep Magical Torque and EQ

[verbal pendant]

So I'm playing pokemon insurgence

And I'm gonna die because ALL THREE OF HIS POKEMON HAVE BATON PASS

[lyric radish]

let me give you some EXTREMLY good advice
close the game and open pokerogue 😄

[lyric radish]

i also got shell bell on wave 2

by wave 35 i have 2 carbos on zacian too

[sweet crypt]

This is why Roar is GOATed

We love phasing moves

[smoky gyro]

Thats literally the entire gimmick of that e4 number

I forgot what her name was

Also how are you playing insurgence on your phone with an emulator

[sweet crypt]

Ngl I do not remember what I did for the E4 in Insurgence it's been ages

[smoky gyro]

The only thing I remembered was I STRUGGLED

HARD

But I was also trying to do hard mode deathless

And was way less experienced in competitive back then

[verbal pendant]

Joiplay

[smoky gyro]

How does it run?

[verbal pendant]

I spammed aerial ace and then when they baton pass I just hit with em with earthquake

[smoky gyro]

Laggy? Choppy frames?

[verbal pendant]

Good

Although the laser gym not so much

[smoky gyro]

Nice

[verbal pendant]

It does get laggy when I surf

Because of my mons going in into the pokeballs

But all in all it runs good

I love this mega design so much

[minor blade]

Hey all, im new to pokemon fan games and pif is my first one.
I've been interested in checking out others because I feel like I've been missing out, but Idk where to start.
I've heard of pokemon rogue and am super interested but don't know if there is somewhere to go to download without getting trojaned or something
If anyone has recommendations or helpful sights to download or start with id love to hear it

[solemn laurel]

I cannot recommend Insurgence enough. It’s such a deep game with lots of different mechanics. Delta Pokemon, Armored Pokemon, new Mega Evolutions, a general darker story, and actual challenge that is easily customizable to your taste.

https://p-insurgence.com/

[minor blade]

That sounds amazing. Thank you so much for the rec and link. Follow up question, im currently playing pif on mobile, will insurgence work similarly or will I have to switch to my janky laptop lol

[solemn laurel]

I do not think there is an Android patch for it, however it ran pretty well on my old janky as fuck laptop. So however janky it may be, it’ll run okay.

[deep merlin]

Anything new with gamma emerald? Last I heard was when it was "coming out " but that was like a 1-2 hour playable demo. Would love to see it completed

[minor blade]

Just starting up the game now, do you recommend traditional or dark story for the first playthrough?

[rugged comet]

https://www.rebornevo.com/rejuvdown/ rejuvenation is great, but no mobile for it

Also for fangames I typically look to see if I can find like a Reddit community to be sure it's the right download

[minor blade]

Thanks for the recommendation, I'll certainly add it to the list. Its ok if there is no mobile. Mobile just happens to be a little more convenient for me as I don't get as much time to sit and boot up my laptop

[terse pollen]

Is Tyrunt really that good to start with? Tyrantrum is strong but it takes a while to evolve

The egg moves I have on it are Dragon Hammer and Flare Blitz

As for Keldeo I wanted to use it but it has pretty bad IVs

[solemn laurel]

Dark. Easily. It’s the way the game was meant to be played

[lavish dune]

Wuzaat

Pixelmon?

[terse pollen]

It's called Cobblemon, it's like pixelmon but the pokemon are all cubes

[lavish dune]

Which is better? Or just a preference thing?

[terse pollen]

Just a preference thing

I think Pixelmon has more content overall

But Cobblemon fits more into the Minecraft vibe

[lavish dune]

Fair

[lyric radish]

pixelmon 🙂

[lavish dune]

this battle is pissin me off

[solemn laurel]

Jesus what game is this? This looks incredible.

[lavish dune]

pokerogue

[terse pollen]

All my homies hate Ivy

[lavish dune]

bitchass acting like were on the same level when all her pokemon have like 4x hp

[terse pollen]

Always jumping me when my mons are low too smh

[lavish dune]

ivy fake af

[flint sundial]

is it a PC only 😮‍💨

[lavish dune]

id assume you could play on your phone

its a browser game

[flint sundial]

oh

lemme see

yeah seems so

runs normally

[lavish dune]

good luck

[terse pollen]

It's pretty cool

But a steep learning curve

[flint sundial]

I'll prob need it 😭

[lavish dune]

or a steep luck curve

[flint sundial]

I have NEVER gotten good rng in a pokemon game

[lavish dune]

quick claw kings rock ftw

[flint sundial]

once I got a poke down to ONE SINGULAR HP because I got a low wtv it's called

[terse pollen]

Kings rock never procks for me

[lavish dune]

use it with multihit moves

[terse pollen]

Good idea

[lavish dune]

THROW DOWN VICTREEBEL, YOU GOT THIS

god i wish the battle ended here

yeah, i cant win this one, gg thats a wrap

wave 195/200

[terse pollen]

NOOO

[lavish dune]

i gotta get ahold of shedinja or somethin

[terse pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-crying-gif-15896901980625544793

It's okay you'll get it next time

[lavish dune]

just realized the blue shiny eggs i caught also had its hidden ability, thats a rare fuckin shiny

or maybe i bring ditto, use the super boss to throw down against itself

nah imma bring krabby, that seems fun

[noble zealot]

At this point, it comes down to performance for me.

Pixelmon is Forge only, while Cobblemon is Fabric only.

Fabric is much lighter and faster than Forge, which barely works for me at this point.

[terse pollen]

fabric more like fabdick

gottem

[solemn laurel]

I do hope you enjoy it! It’s tied for first with this one for my personal favorite fan game.

[lavish dune]

OH SHIIIII

[lavish dune]

imma snag that too actually

[terse pollen]

Pog?

That'll be useful in 80 rounds when you can mega evolve it

[solemn laurel]

Let me just say that the Delta pokemon get insane. And if you like post games, BOY does Insurgence have an extensive one.

[lavish dune]

its ivs suck ass, this lad is waiting for next run

[terse pollen]

Aw rip

Getting a cool pokemon with bad ivs hurts

[lavish dune]

its chill, the weedle i have has incredible IVs

[terse pollen]

Woah mama

[lavish dune]

he'll be okay next run

it also has thousand arrows for some fucking reason

[terse pollen]

I love how they give every pokemon some legendary moves

It's fun

[terse pollen]

Man trade cables are so rare

[lavish dune]

either immediately or never

[terse pollen]

For real

[solemn laurel]

Not to get back onto the Insurgence train, but I have to flex that my Delta Gardevoir from my first run of the game had the best possible nature and was a literal hydrogen bomb with its typing.

[minor blade]

How likely is it to encounter delta pokemon and are the a bunch in the game?

[solemn laurel]

The Deltas are actually very special to get. Most are in well tucked in areas, hidden grottos, or can be acquired in trades. You can get a Kantonian starter in Delta form.

[minor blade]

I picked the bulbasaur to start. I just thought it was really cool and I wanted more lol

[solemn laurel]

That’s fair, I went Charmander for my first run. What difficulty?

Because if you went with Easy mode, you’ll miss quite a bit of the new stuff

[solemn laurel]

Another thing is the levels do scale up in marquis battles fast. You will for sure be running over Level 50 at the halfway point of the game.

[minor blade]

Im doing normal. But this is the hardest start I've had to a pokemon game in a minute lol. I think its largely because of the lack of passive exp share. Also the game is running a little laggy for me so its taking me a while. Im in the cave in the forest now

But I havent been playing long

[minor blade]

I did a coin toss between bulb and char. It was a tough choice lol

[terse pollen]

When I played it I went Squirtle and it was agony

[solemn laurel]

Yeah stick with Normal, it’ll sort itself out.

[solemn laurel]

Delta Squirtle is hard mode

[terse pollen]

I just wanted a cool ninja turtle

[minor blade]

Lol that's good to hear. I was kinda thinking if this is how the whole game is i really gotta step up or step out 😅

[solemn laurel]

That becomes bowser, fair enough.

[solemn laurel]

It’s the true definition of “poop or get off the pot”

[minor blade]

😆

[solemn laurel]

I will say team building with Deltas in the main story is pretty narrow, but it’s very much doable to make some pretty fun unique combinations.

[lavish dune]

imma choose dark story

i like seeing shit go down in these games

jamming with this intro theme too

[solemn laurel]

The way the game was meant to be played. You’ll love it.

[lavish dune]

wish i could make the screen a bit bigger tho

[solemn laurel]

I believe there’s some ways to in the options menu

[lavish dune]

the biggest gripe i have with these games?

inconsistent keybinds

"theres no reason to do that now" BITCH MAYBE I LIKE THE COLOR SCHEME

[solemn laurel]

I hear you there.

[lavish dune]

why is enter A but backspace not B?

because fuck your hands

save keybinds
nah

damnit i forgot to saaaave

[lavish dune]

imma take deltasaur

AY

ooo early gastly, thats pretty fun

[terse pollen]

wait im goated

[modern oar]

Nice!

[lavish dune]

why this PC remind me of real rick from monster galaxy if yall remember that

[lavish dune]

...

[lyric radish]

sir thats the wrong game thats not pokerogue

[lavish dune]

I lost wave 195 I need a pallet cleanser

[lyric radish]

XD'

wave 195 in my opinion is harder then 200

the worst part is you can also only use tera on either 195 or 200 not both

[delicate hollow]

I wish the older rom hacks got a much needed modern upgrade never mind an update cos we need to see a physical and special split, infinite TM usage and a whole bunch of other much needed features taken from modern games to this game (excluding megas and terra types)

[lavish dune]

Give me modern snakewood

[lyric radish]

well thats why pokerogue is superior it has Gigantamax, mega, tera and more! even some custom items or reworked items to fit pokerogue's playstyle

[unkempt egret]

I've done that PS Split translation of pokemon quartz but it was... messy to say the least rofl

[smoky gyro]

How do you get yourself swept by a Minun of all things man-

[solemn laurel]

So thankful Insurgence and Infinite Fusion do those both.

[celest light]

Bastiodon and tinkaton are arguably worse mons overall especially with the move pool and probable level advantage

[simple quartz]

Frickin Lopunny or Kirlia is probably better than either of the two

[viscid pelican]

My Friend Malamar video is going live soon

[unkempt egret]

probably not Kirlia

since kirlia's basically a cocoon pokemon in terms of how barely improved from ralts it is

[viscid pelican]

Ok ||Mega Malamar is kinda sick||

[sweet crypt]

Minun is a top threat in RandBats if I'm being honest

[smoky gyro]

*if it has encore

Otherwise its kinda shit

[sweet crypt]

Idk, its speed is nearly unmatched

And it has pretty good SpA

And Nasty Plot

[smoky gyro]

Youre not ohkoing too many things with 1 nasty

[sweet crypt]

And Life Orb for more damage

[smoky gyro]

You need at least 2 I feel like

[sweet crypt]

And like you mentioned earlier it can get Encore

It's no Chimecho tier threat though

[smoky gyro]

Bro will never not be salty about chimecho

[sweet crypt]

Which is probably a sentence that has only ever been uttered in the context of RandBats

[sweet crypt]

It's unironically a menace to society

[smoky gyro]

It is

Tbh anything that gets access to encore is scary

Dewgong also has it

[sweet crypt]

Encore is a very scary move in general

[smoky gyro]

Both slow encore and fast encore are nasty

[sweet crypt]

Someone encores you into a setup move and you're kinda just forced to suck it up and switch, hoping that your opponent doesn't read correctly

[smoky gyro]

And then theres scarf trick gothitelle

Which is even worse

[sweet crypt]

At least it won't set up on you I guess

[smoky gyro]

I won a game tricking scarf on koraidon that used sd

And was the last mon

Bro was just screwed

[sweet crypt]

They should've used Flare Blitz ig

(And still probably lose)

(But shh)

[smoky gyro]

I will never understand people who play SO greedily

And it feels even worse when they get away with it

Spoilers

[brisk hedge]

#pokemon-winds-waves

[tight granite]

since it is against the spoiler rule..mind helpoing sicne its been like an hour @daring rock

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-meme-mods-gif-14385308006689816010

[noble zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-british-food-mods-low-tier-god-gif-9108075214677777615

[wild ore]

Bro guys do yall know how fugging op cloyster with skill link and icicle spear is?

+shell smash

It is so good for pokerouge

I’ve solo’d so many fights with a single shell smash then spamming a 125 base power stab ice move

And cloyster is so tanky that any non super effective physical move will most likely not ohko

Even with the shell smash drop

[daring rock]

Uhhhh

I thought we put this channel for spoiler info

But it should be spoiler marked anyways

[tight granite]

well no sicne we have a channel for za #pokemon-winds-waves

[daring rock]

Nevermind i thought we were there

LMAO

@west gale please use #pokemon-winds-waves for chatting about revealed info, also you might wanna mark it as spoiler if you are gonna talk about something revealed so early ! !

[quasi dagger]

so uh.. how am i supposed to beat karen in mono-ghost😭

you'd think tera fairy flutter mane would sweep right

it does not

[unkempt egret]

sometimes you gotta realize when the AI calls "Checkmate" that it's time for a new run

[quasi dagger]

way ahead of you lol

starting with flutter mane and mankey this time

rival started with litten...

[lavish dune]

THEY JUMPING ME

[solemn laurel]

The TCNick3 nation!

[lavish dune]

pretty solid squad so far

i have a nidoking so im trying to decide between him and shifty

[lavish dune]

hold on, is that delta aipom pokedex a reference to the white hand kid in lavender town? or the other way around?

in infinite fusion i mean

[unkempt egret]

that's in vanilla R/B/Y too but not sure if delpa pom references it

[lavish dune]

i entered a random base

oh my god please

oh hi

tf you doin alone little dude?

[solemn laurel]

Now THAT is the hydrogen bomb I know and love using.

[lavish dune]

im gonna bring the beheaded monkey

his name is porp

[solemn laurel]

He’s an annoying little shit

[lavish dune]

whys he lookin at me like that

[solemn laurel]

He’s fren

[lavish dune]

hm

"ill give you this egg for 2500"

https://tenor.com/view/jontron-ill-take-your-entire-stock-thats-mine-gif-13637000

[unkempt egret]

ROFL WHAT

testing out moves in the rando I'm doing and of all the new moves I added (about 20) the only ones that missed on the initial test were... focus blast and stone edge

[unkempt egret]

ok there we go all of the new moves should be in good and working order outside of a few minor graphical hiccups, first time I've done animation editing in a long time lol

[lavish dune]

well arent you a funky little lass

[lavish dune]

GIRL YOU HAD AN EMOLGA AND A FURFROU CHILL

i may replay dragon quest

act 2 is still badass

[lavish dune]

when did my muk eat a fucking magby??

[solemn laurel]

Ah regurgitation. Never had a Delta Muk with that.

[lavish dune]

i only learned it didnt have sap sipper anymore when it got nuked by a liligant

i think imma replace it with the delta pidgey i found, the encounter was too funny and anticlimactic to not use it

[lavish dune]

i think ive caught up in levels- then theres a level 44 roggenrolla

[frank lily]

New guy

[smoky gyro]

Why does this say ability reduction-

Emerald wording is weird

[lavish dune]

PUNCH HIM IN THE DICK

[smoky gyro]

What

[solemn laurel]

Delta Gardevoir bodies that thing.

[brisk hedge]

Rayquaza is genderless, so it doesn’t have one

[solemn laurel]

It’s shaped kind of like one, close enough.

[smoky gyro]

Bro that would HURT

[solemn laurel]

Get the 4x super effective sword sound ready the .

[queen pecan]

i felt a shudder at that one

[inland crane]

Psychic trainer was harder than champion

[inland crane]

How does he pee then

[brisk hedge]

That’s the neat part: he doesn’t

[brisk hedge]

Also, that might be because the only Pokémon that has super effective STAB against Psychic is also weak to Psychic

[unkempt egret]

"the nice part about fiction is that you don't need to ask or answer that question."

[pastel gull]

i have become guzma i guess

[split yoke]

Anyone play pokemon unite?

[inland crane]

About Legends ZA release, will there be a delay in between Switch and Switch 2 releases?

[pastel gull]

useless ass seaking missed 3 horndrills in a row and let guzma's golispod set up 3 swords dances

jesus christ just checked the accuracy

[pastel gull]

30%

[stiff dragon]

Best day of my life

[pastel gull]

nice

[stiff dragon]

On a nuzlock too

I wasnt looking for a shiny

What was your first ever shiny?

[pastel gull]

shiny diglett in diglett tunnel, fire red

[stiff dragon]

Oh

[pastel gull]

was just grinding and i found one

[stiff dragon]

Mine was zubat

Just randomly started a new game

And found it

[pastel gull]

nice

[stiff dragon]

I lost the game file

Sadly

All my shinys were non intentional

[pastel gull]

same

i found a shiny geodude in arceus + then a shiny gogoat in violet

[stiff dragon]

Woah

[pastel gull]

and most recently a shiny flittle shortly after getting the shiny charm a few days ago

[stiff dragon]

Coooll

Im too poor for a nintendo :p

[modern oar]

Isn't Horn Drill a OHKO(One Hit Knock Out) move?

[pastel gull]

i have no idea

[modern oar]

Because those are the only moves that have 30% accuracy I believe.

[pastel gull]

it is

how i never knew that idk

[modern oar]

Yeah, it is an OHKO move.

Not the best idea to use it in battle.

[pastel gull]

Perfect excuse to look through my TMs

[modern oar]

Most moves are better than an OHKO move, since almost all moves have good enough accuracy to be viable in a normal playthrough. Though I did use Fissure on a Wiscash on my first playthrough of Ruby, so what do I know?

[dim thistle]

Just opened my first TCG Pocket pack of the day and holy crap

[unkempt egret]

"holy crap, two giratinas!"

[noble zealot]

One Giratina! Ha ha ha!
Two Giratinas! Ha ha ha!

[burnt tartan]

Nice

Also am i the only one who thinks that instead of the 3 swords (i don't remember their titles just that its Cobalion's group) as iron paradox pokemon we should have got the regis?

[unkempt egret]

swords of justice

[brisk hedge]

The Regis already got 2 new members in the SWSH dlc

[burnt tartan]

I know but the swords of justice made no sense as robots

[burnt tartan]

Thank you

[unkempt egret]

imo I hope they treat iron leaves and walking wake as an actual trio in the future and not just pseudo-mythicals

and if you want that then robo-keledo and primal cele- wait

[burnt tartan]

What

Were you going to say primal celebi?

[brisk hedge]

They make just as much sense as robots as Donphan, Delibird, Hariyama, Hydreigon, Volcarona, Tyranitar, Gardevoir and Gallade do

[terse pollen]

Yeah and they suck

[burnt tartan]

Hey iron valiant looks cool and delibird looks silly

But yeah even some of the scarlet paradoxes are weird

Like magneton and jigglypuff? Why not magnezone and wigglytuff

[brisk hedge]

Wether or not they suck is irrelevant. They shouldn’t give special attention to the same group of Pokémon 2 Gens in a row

[terse pollen]

True

But I just like finding any opportunity I have to shit on the gen 8 regi's

[burnt tartan]

Why are they bad?

[terse pollen]

They don't fit in with the theme of the regi's, they seem to all be themed around different "ages" in history, like the ice age, the stone age, and what is now the steel age

There is no dragon age or electric age

And when I think of the regi's I think of them standing in place for thousands of years in temples, meanwhile regieleki is jumping all over the place

I am a hater through and through

[burnt tartan]

Um medival and modern

Fair enough

[terse pollen]

Medieval times didn't last long enough to be on the same tier as the ice or stone ages

[burnt tartan]

Dang

[terse pollen]

It makes more sense if everything in the last couple thousand years falls under the "steel age" umbrella

[burnt tartan]

Ah

Also to defend iron treads it at least made sense cause of its rolling habit

[terse pollen]

I like iron treads

I hated it at first but it grew on me

[burnt tartan]

Same

[brisk hedge]

Spoilers. #pokemon-winds-waves

[burnt tartan]

No its not

[brisk hedge]

And when did the game come out?

[burnt tartan]

But sorry I'll move the discussion there

It didn't

[rapid umbra]

It’s still well before the game is released some people want to go in blind

[brisk hedge]

Then it’s spoilers

[burnt tartan]

Oh..oops my b

Fixed it

[solemn laurel]

I’m sorry but STAB Bolt/Beam with Calm Mind on a Delta Gardevoir is actually ridiculous.

[unkempt egret]

reminds me of skeledirge in gen 9 where almost everything in the game just falls to it rofl

[solemn laurel]

If you’ve played Insurgence, you know how hard Delta Gardevoir wrecks house

[sudden pewter]

My friend is running a pokemon ttrpg he made the system for
This next gym is Plusle Minum double battle with the backup pokemon being lunastone and solroc
And my best bet is mudsdale who
When grass knot exists doesn't do well...
I might be screwed.

[modern oar]

Good luck with that.

[inland crane]

I installed that and did nothing beyond picking a starter

[lavish dune]

yk, when i found a hidden grotto, i kinda expected a delta

[lavish dune]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler-the-creator-tyler-creator-tyler-gif-24302181

[lavish dune]

I FUCKING LOVE WAILMER

https://tenor.com/view/frien-my-friend-now-your-my-friend-now-meme-gif-22200411

[proven geyser]

any idea on where i can safely download pokemon reborn :3

[sweet crypt]

https://www.rebornevo.com/pr/download/ this is an official website btw

[proven geyser]

alright perfect thanks!

[sweet crypt]

Literally went to the discord server to check

[proven geyser]

lol thank you a lot i found the website but i wasn't sure if it was the official one cuz it looks kinda sketchy

[sweet crypt]

Yknow actually I'm a fucking idiot

Since I literally got an account on the website

So I literally just

Could've checked to see if I was logged in to an account

Im a doofus

(I am logged in)

[queen pecan]

in this day of constant virus sites its neveer wrong to doublecheck anyhow ^^

[sweet crypt]

My point is I could've doublechecked like

Way quicker

But instead I chose to be dumb

[solemn laurel]

You can soft reset at some Grottos for a Delta

[verbal pendant]

[solemn laurel]

It’s how you get the Delta Sunkern, Scraggy and Combee.

[sweet crypt]

I would like to note that while Vespiquen is normally kinda garbage, I remember taking a look at Competitive Insurgence and seeing that Delta Vespiquen was a very strong pick

Whether that transfers over to casual I have 0 clue

But it's just worth noting that Vespiquen is no longer bad

[simple quartz]

I think Steel/Fire with Levitate alone is enough to make great casual enjoyment

[sweet crypt]

That seems about right

[viscid pelican]

||MEGA KALOS STARTERS AND TWO MEGA RAICHU ARE REAL!!||

[smoky gyro]

Vesp is also just REALLY bulky

I know torn doesnt learn it but

What happens if a pure flying type like torn uses roost

Cause I dont think roost strips away tera flying

[solemn laurel]

Plus you don’t gotta worry about finding a female! It’s 100% female!

[viscid pelican]

These new ||Megas|| go hard. I love all of them

*keeping it in spoilers as it was just announced in the Nintendo Direct

[smoky gyro]

Doesnt everyone know ZA is bringing back megas anyways

Its just what the megas are and who gets them that are spoilers

[viscid pelican]

Ok ok

Just wanted to be safe

[lavish dune]

holy shit my egg gacha luck is ASS

that epic isnt even from this blitz, its from an old one

if i dont get a shiny from these ill

probably be mildly upset

[smoky gyro]

Dont fully take my word on it Im just assuming so

[lavish dune]

translation: im not liable if you get in trouble

[unkempt egret]

"hello yes I like to cause nonsense on purpose please"

[lavish dune]

all of those... one shiny

not even a high rank shiny

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-disappointed-fan-seriously-what-are-you-doing-judging-you-gif-17485289

WHY ARENT YOU SHINYYYY

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-feline-creature-gif-23361370

[viscid pelican]

I'll accept whatever comes

I've had a good run here

[lavish dune]

jesus, aint that like a level 30 somethin evo?

jesus okay ill stop talking shit

[solemn laurel]

I wish PokeRogue would let me sign up on my phone.

[lavish dune]

does it not?

how come?

[solemn laurel]

It just doesn’t want to work

[wild ore]

What the hell!??????

Wave 2💔

[unkempt egret]

[lavish dune]

bools

[solemn laurel]

Soooooo just outta curiosity, what’s the Insurgence team looking like for you, buddy?

[lavish dune]

am i gonna be level 100 at the last gym

also, flubb pisses me off, this mf missed 5 leech seeds in a row

[solemn laurel]

You will not be, but also the level cap is raised to 120 Did you go to get the Delta Axew?

[lavish dune]

i did, his name is SharkBait (HoHaHA)

[solemn laurel]

I fucking love using it. That and Delta Chandelure were 2 members I got a huge kick out of using.

[unkempt egret]

Fren

[lavish dune]

hes absolute ass

but fren'

[unkempt egret]

[solemn laurel]

If you want to go Delta only, the Haxorus might be your only good option until you’re on Victory Road.

[lavish dune]

nah, i like thundervolt too much

https://tenor.com/view/illumination-asian-man-enlightened-oh-okay-gif-16379366

i only got pokeballs lets SEND IT

holy hell those ivs are ASS

oh hi

epic egg ftw

but why arent you SHINY?

[solemn laurel]

I was thinking more in place of Cleavor, but fair.

[lavish dune]

this ivy might be beatable

[pastel gull]

Trying to give my Kommo o in sun its hidden ability, but according to PKHex it needs 2 Ivs??

randomizing Ivs worked

oddly

i couldve got this on the FIRST ISLAND?!

im at the league and have been using the fire crystal on trumbeak for ages

[unkempt egret]

in USUM yes, in SM you need the final poke ride first I believe

[pastel gull]

ah

very appropriate clothes for the top of a snowy mountain

[wild ore]

Ima crash out bro

On round 164 I got into a little event thingy vs two volcarona and they instantly attack and sweeped 4 of my pom

Pkm

Then I close the game after beating them for a while

Then when I come back I instantly get forced into the Guzma fight with 2 pkm unable to even try and heal my team

So ofc I get sweeped

https://tenor.com/view/crash-out-strangle-over-it-im-done-wtf-gif-5733066100478599257

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-crash-out-angry-gif-15667791719891680630

https://tenor.com/view/crashout-skeleteon-skeleton-meme-skeleteton-crashout-screaming-gif-2819917983570648755

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-majin-vegeta-dragon-ball-legends-dragon-dragon-ball-z-gif-16608221371907468706

https://tenor.com/view/man-rising-from-knees-reverse-despair-gif-4663776144039251927

https://tenor.com/view/no-noooo-british-cop-screaming-no-despair-crying-gif-14408871079120163442